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To: freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org References: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Language: en-US From: Mike In-Reply-To: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[mgm51.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51.com-10]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:2607:f2f8::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+] X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gkYgn67QFz3QJ3 On 6/21/2026 10:01 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Mike writes: >> I no longer see that easy ability to update from one patch level to >> the current patch level within the installed version. > > To upgrade a pkgbase system, simply run: > > # pkg upgrade > > or, if you want to upgrade _only_ the base system and leave the rest > untouched: > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base > > This essentially replaces `freebsd-update fetch` and `freebsd-update > install` in your script, including the intervening prompt, and the rest > will work as before. If you want to get fancy, do: > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base -Fy > > to download updated packagtes without installing them, then > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base > > to prompt the user and install the downloaded packages. This will also > avoid a rare situation (very unlikely to occur with pkgbase on a release > branch) where pkg computes an upgrade plan, prompts the user, then > computes a different plan after examining the packages it downloaded and > prompts the user a second time. > > A reboot is always recommended, unless you know exactly what was updated > and can manually restart all affected services (or you know that none of > the services that you run are affected). That was always the case. > >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase > > This is severely out of date and (like most of the wiki) was always more > of an internal roadmap than any sort of user documentation. > > DES Excellent! Many thanks for that explanation. >> Now, as I understand the pkgbase system, it has gotten a bit more >> complex. > > On the contrary... > I sit corrected. Thanks again for your excellent explanation!