From nobody Mon Jan 5 17:49:28 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-test@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dlMJ16Pd0z6MpND for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4dlMJ06PGlz49PG for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=yahoo.com (policy=reject); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1vcohy-0008IF-56 for freebsd-test@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:49:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-test@freebsd.org From: Mark Millard Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 09:49:28 -0800 Message-ID: References: List-Id: Test posting area List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-test@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.82 / 15.00]; DMARC_POLICY_REJECT(2.00)[yahoo.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.81)[0.811]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[marklmi@yahoo.com,freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.28)[0.285]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-test@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[marklmi@yahoo.com,freebsd-test@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dlMJ06PGlz49PG On 1/4/26 21:15, Mark Millard wrote: > Hello. > > I'll note that the: > > gmane.os.freebsd.current.scm_dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org > > information is incoherent. It reports: > > List Address: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org > (The description text matches reasonably.) > > But later reports . . . > > alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org > alias    dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org > > (Yep: listed twice.) > > In reality dev-commits-src-main and dev-commits-src-all > are distinct lists, with dev-commits-src-main having > only a subset. > > > Most lists I looked at say mailman for "Mailing List Software but > this one is suggestive of being more accurate: mlmmj+ > > > gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org shows: > > encode    encrypt > > May be that explains the odd, long bugzilla-noreply-* text? > > Lots to learn. > > As is common for me, I later have additional notes to add to my prior submittal as I've run into something while gathering evidence or am otherwise figuring things out. Some of these are messages are sent hour(s) later. It appears that the Gmane Autoauthorizer notices that report "[t]he mailing list software used for the list in question is mailman" are giving bad instructions as Mlmmj and mailman do not seem to be compatible for such things, if I understand right --and the FreeBSD lists are Mlmmj based these days. I'm also not sure what the "+" is about in the "mlmmj+". It might be an error to be corrected. I've learned that listing the newsgroup and your Email address for the send did not lead to the message showing up via https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/ . -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com