From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Dec 3 11:43:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA19084 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:43:49 -0800 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18995 ; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:42:41 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id UAA28696; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 20:42:06 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA22238; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 20:42:04 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA03060; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 18:43:20 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512031743.SAA03060@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: A test device driver To: gclarkii@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 18:43:20 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199511300717.BAA05810@main.gbdata.com> from "Gary Clark II" at Nov 30, 95 01:17:25 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 315 Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Gary Clark II wrote: > > Would anyone feel "bad" if we put a `test` device driver in the tree in > /sys/i386/isa ? /usr/share/examples/driver/test/ -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 4 01:08:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA11805 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 01:08:15 -0800 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA11503 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 01:04:29 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA16012; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:02:01 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA25765; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:01:42 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA07676; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:12:49 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512040812.JAA07676@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Adding New Hard Drives: A Major Complaint To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:12:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: peter@taronga.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <18919.818025032@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Dec 3, 95 01:10:32 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 396 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > I have a card punch, and about 10,000 cards left... > > 10K cards. Hmmm. Is that enough for a bindist? :-) Perhaps for V7? Anyway, should you run out of cards, i think i could get you more. ;-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 5 09:10:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA17585 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:10:19 -0800 Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA17547 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 09:10:12 -0800 Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA29328; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:08:56 -0500 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199512051708.MAA29328@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Terminals To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:08:56 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-chat@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512051310.NAA28493@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Dec 5, 95 01:10:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1092 Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Sean Kelly stands accused of saying: > > > > I got tired of continually watching misc.forsale.computers.other.misc > > for used terminals. Does anyone know of (or is) a source for used > > terminals? I'm in the market for Wyse-50 or comparable, for about > > $100. Pointers? > > How many are you after? If just one or two, try ringing around a few local > computer support organisations - stick with the larger ones, not the > Klone-only shops. Often they'll have that sort of thing kicking around, or > know someone who wants to get rid of some. > Check the local flea markets -- both Ham and Computer. VT100's are now 2 for $5.00. (now if I could just get the LSI-11 parts to populate my VT103 and a case load of the plastic snaps for the VT100.) Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter/Carolyn Pechter | The postmaster always pings twice. Lakewood MicroSystems | 17 Meredith Drive, 908-389-3592 | Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 pechter@shell.monmouth.com | From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 8 01:16:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA13607 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 01:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13600 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 01:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA16714 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 01:16:11 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA00872 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:13:48 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA07645 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:13:48 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA22802 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:11:26 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512080911.KAA22802@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: MCI? To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:11:26 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't really get a connection to freefall, but this time, it doesn't seem to be related to the overloaded gateway of the German WiN: traceroute to freefall.freebsd.org (192.216.222.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 sax-gw2.sax.de (193.175.26.94) 352.150 ms 161.508 ms 158.414 ms 2 cisco1.inf.tu-dresden.de (141.76.1.1) 179.673 ms 161.423 ms 167.554 ms 3 141.30.68.1 (141.30.68.1) 180.926 ms 241.262 ms 193.732 ms 4 Duesseldorf5.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.132.192) 289.655 ms 273.083 ms 268.274 ms 5 ipgate2.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.74.200) 304.956 ms 310.844 ms 263.299 ms 6 aachen1.dante.net (193.174.74.110) 278.040 ms 255.226 ms 273.658 ms 7 Amsterdam1.dante.net (194.41.0.73) 331.482 ms 392.654 ms 374.861 ms 8 New-York1.dante.net (194.41.0.42) 471.731 ms 512.512 ms 527.546 ms 9 mf-1.cnss32.New-York.t3.ans.net (204.149.4.5) 548.731 ms 522.130 ms 417.183 ms 10 t3-0.cnss48.Hartford.t3.ans.net (140.222.48.1) 474.153 ms 507.715 ms 471.662 ms 11 t3-2.cnss43.Cleveland.t3.ans.net (140.222.43.3) 398.599 ms 432.745 ms 504.791 ms 12 t3-1.cnss27.Chicago.t3.ans.net (140.222.27.3) 441.755 ms 438.207 ms 429.098 ms 13 t3-1.cnss96.Denver.t3.ans.net (140.222.96.2) 507.436 ms 488.041 ms 570.205 ms 14 t3-1.cnss8.San-Francisco.t3.ans.net (140.222.8.2) 561.752 ms 501.863 ms 622.780 ms 15 mf-0.cnss11.San-Francisco.t3.ans.net (140.222.8.195) 489.039 ms 510.866 ms 440.368 ms 16 enss257-F.ans.net (198.32.128.65) 2792.445 ms 547.704 ms 588.470 ms 17 enss456-H.ans.net (198.32.128.226) 823.481 ms 536.135 ms 531.086 ms 18 * pb-F1.MCI.net (198.32.128.197) 578.146 ms * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * su-b.barrnet.net (192.31.48.201) 545.672 ms 22 ucbn1.barrnet.net (131.119.2.2) 663.157 ms * 570.478 ms 23 ucb2.barrnet.net (131.119.253.3) 677.627 ms * * 24 cdrom.barrnet.net (131.119.70.134) 2815.803 ms * 3091.442 ms 25 freefall.FreeBSD.ORG (192.216.222.4) 969.024 ms 863.106 ms * So it looks like MCI or something around it is flakey? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 8 12:45:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA19672 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 12:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19665 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 12:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id VAA22949 ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:45:49 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id VAA16972 ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:45:49 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.2/keltia-uucp-2.7) id TAA17039; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 19:12:24 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199512081812.TAA17039@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: MCI? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 19:12:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512080911.KAA22802@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Dec 8, 95 10:11:26 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1404 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that J Wunsch said: > 18 * pb-F1.MCI.net (198.32.128.197) 578.146 ms * > 19 * * * > 20 * * * > 21 * * su-b.barrnet.net (192.31.48.201) 545.672 ms > 22 ucbn1.barrnet.net (131.119.2.2) 663.157 ms * 570.478 ms > 23 ucb2.barrnet.net (131.119.253.3) 677.627 ms * * > 24 cdrom.barrnet.net (131.119.70.134) 2815.803 ms * 3091.442 ms > 25 freefall.FreeBSD.ORG (192.216.222.4) 969.024 ms 863.106 ms * > > So it looks like MCI or something around it is flakey? My experience is that MCI is the worst major link in the USA. ANS is good, Sprint is not bad either but each time a route goes thru MCI, I begin to lose myriads of packets. It has been like this for a long time :-( -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Sun Dec 3 14:34:17 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 9 01:00:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA06096 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA06072 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id EAA29568; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 04:00:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 04:00:28 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: XFree and W32 cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have XF86 v 3.1.1 right now. Before I waste the time getting 3.1.2, does anyone know if the W32 server supports more than 8 bit planes? Marc. From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 9 14:51:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA24314 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 14:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24279 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 14:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA05265; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:40:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:40:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MCI? In-Reply-To: <199512080911.KAA22802@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk MCI blew bricks AGAIN last night.....couldnt do squat for hours damn their eyes! On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, J Wunsch wrote: > I can't really get a connection to freefall, but this time, it doesn't > seem to be related to the overloaded gateway of the German WiN: > > traceroute to freefall.freebsd.org (192.216.222.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 sax-gw2.sax.de (193.175.26.94) 352.150 ms 161.508 ms 158.414 ms > 2 cisco1.inf.tu-dresden.de (141.76.1.1) 179.673 ms 161.423 ms 167.554 ms > 3 141.30.68.1 (141.30.68.1) 180.926 ms 241.262 ms 193.732 ms > 4 Duesseldorf5.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.132.192) 289.655 ms 273.083 ms 268.274 ms > 5 ipgate2.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.74.200) 304.956 ms 310.844 ms 263.299 ms > 6 aachen1.dante.net (193.174.74.110) 278.040 ms 255.226 ms 273.658 ms > 7 Amsterdam1.dante.net (194.41.0.73) 331.482 ms 392.654 ms 374.861 ms > 8 New-York1.dante.net (194.41.0.42) 471.731 ms 512.512 ms 527.546 ms > 9 mf-1.cnss32.New-York.t3.ans.net (204.149.4.5) 548.731 ms 522.130 ms 417.183 ms > 10 t3-0.cnss48.Hartford.t3.ans.net (140.222.48.1) 474.153 ms 507.715 ms 471.662 ms > 11 t3-2.cnss43.Cleveland.t3.ans.net (140.222.43.3) 398.599 ms 432.745 ms 504.791 ms > 12 t3-1.cnss27.Chicago.t3.ans.net (140.222.27.3) 441.755 ms 438.207 ms 429.098 ms > 13 t3-1.cnss96.Denver.t3.ans.net (140.222.96.2) 507.436 ms 488.041 ms 570.205 ms > 14 t3-1.cnss8.San-Francisco.t3.ans.net (140.222.8.2) 561.752 ms 501.863 ms 622.780 ms > 15 mf-0.cnss11.San-Francisco.t3.ans.net (140.222.8.195) 489.039 ms 510.866 ms 440.368 ms > 16 enss257-F.ans.net (198.32.128.65) 2792.445 ms 547.704 ms 588.470 ms > 17 enss456-H.ans.net (198.32.128.226) 823.481 ms 536.135 ms 531.086 ms > 18 * pb-F1.MCI.net (198.32.128.197) 578.146 ms * > 19 * * * > 20 * * * > 21 * * su-b.barrnet.net (192.31.48.201) 545.672 ms > 22 ucbn1.barrnet.net (131.119.2.2) 663.157 ms * 570.478 ms > 23 ucb2.barrnet.net (131.119.253.3) 677.627 ms * * > 24 cdrom.barrnet.net (131.119.70.134) 2815.803 ms * 3091.442 ms > 25 freefall.FreeBSD.ORG (192.216.222.4) 969.024 ms 863.106 ms * > > So it looks like MCI or something around it is flakey? > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG