From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 00:00:42 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA10960 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:00:42 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA10909 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 23:59:08 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05173; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 08:59:04 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA05650; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 08:59:02 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA03589; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 08:43:10 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199504300643.IAA03589@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 08:43:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <95Apr29.180419pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Apr 29, 95 06:04:13 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 629 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bill Fenner wrote: > > (ncr0:0:0): "IMPRIMIS 94241-7 1275" is a type 0 fixed SCSI 1 > sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access 317MB (649502 512 byte sectors) > (ncr0:1:0): "CONNER CFP1080S 3939" is a type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd1(ncr0:1:0): Direct-Access > sd1(ncr0:1:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. ... > But disk access is horrendously slow. Your sd1 should be way faster since it's put into synch mode by default. Try forcing the synch mode for sd0 with the ncrcontrol command. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 00:15:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA11153 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:15:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA11146 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:15:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: davidg@Root.COM cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Apr 95 22:19:01 PDT." <199504300519.WAA03214@corbin.Root.COM> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:15:45 -0700 Message-ID: <11145.799226145@freefall.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199504300519.WAA03214@corbin.Root.COM>, David Greenman writes: > This is the third report I've gotten about this. It is of course fixable, >but the 'right' fix is probably to remove the netiso code. Noone in our group >has the ability to test it, and as far as I know it is broken and useless. The >errors are ocurring because LINT defines options "ISO" and the if_fddisubr.c's >ISO code is out of date. In that case, perhaps we should take NetISO out of all the kernels that have it (probably only LINT) as it (i.e. NETISO) doesn't compile anyhow after your change of the inet PCB's to a hashing system... Objections? Anyone using this cruft? Gary From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 01:27:05 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA12364 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 01:27:05 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA12358 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 01:26:45 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA19250; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:23:49 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:23:49 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504300823.SAA19250@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: davidg@Root.COM, gpalmer@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In that case, perhaps we should take NetISO out of all the kernels >that have it (probably only LINT) as it (i.e. NETISO) doesn't compile >anyhow after your change of the inet PCB's to a hashing system... >Objections? It compiles now. The idea of always building NET* is to stop changes to other parts of the system breaking it more than it already is. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 01:57:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA13003 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 01:57:09 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA12989 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 01:56:46 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA19956; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:53:49 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:53:49 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504300853.SAA19956@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, pete@pelican.com Subject: Re: fdisk+disklabel, etc Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I'm having a bear of a time getting a disk labelled - whatever I do, >disklabel won't label the disk. This is a quantum 540 scsi with >1057758 sectors. This doesn't factor into anything which will fit >into dos (or bios)'s idea of cyl-hd-record. Just use the BIOS geometry for H and S and use (total_sectors/H/S) for the number of cylinders in case fdisk actually checks it. >We need a decent way to >1. Get the slice manager to buy ONLY beginning/size and totally ignore > the bios data. It already does, except it looks at the ending C/H/S values in the partition table for the purpose of creating a dummy label mainly for fdisks's benefit and to print annoying warnings. There should be no problems if you've entered suitably fudged values in fdisk. >2. Fake out the size so it can be bigger than cyl*hd*sec as long as the > real drive size isn't exceeded. This mostly works. I think there are only non-fatal bugs in newfs. >I also have to allocate a 1-cyl dos partition for all time to get the >slice table accepted at boot time, no matter what - if I delete it and >write the bsd slice as the whole disk then things fail when I try to >disklabel. (actually, now, the fail when I try to disklabel anyhow, >independent of the fbsd size. This is with disklabel aimed at: >sd1 >/dev/rsd1 >/dev/rsd1c >/dev/rsd1s4 >/dev/rsd1s4c.) >Mostly it complains that the a partition extends past the end of unit, >even though the beg is 0 and size matches that in the slice table. >The last complained about no such file. >We need a GOOD writeup on this; I know it can be done. I think you are trying to do too much. Using the whole disk should work as documented in disklabel.8: 1) start with a BLANK disk (e.g., with zeros in the first 8K). 2) disklabel -B -r -w sd1 any-old-junk-label-in-etc-disktab 3) disklabel -e sd1 #edit label to match reality You can skip step 3) if the label in 2) is correct. I often use the completely bogus label `floppy'. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 02:16:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA13778 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:16:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA13771 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:16:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Bruce Evans cc: davidg@Root.COM, current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Apr 95 18:23:49 +1000." <199504300823.SAA19250@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:16:41 -0700 Message-ID: <13770.799233401@freefall.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer (FreeBSD/ARM Team) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199504300823.SAA19250@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, Bruce Evans writes: >It compiles now. Pardon? ../../netiso/tp_pcb.c: In function `tp_init': ../../netiso/tp_pcb.c:388: structure has no member named `inp_next' ../../netiso/tp_pcb.c:388: structure has no member named `inp_prev' ../../netiso/tp_pcb.c: In function `tp_soisdisconnecting': This is on my box, with a -current source tree (and compiler and binaries) >The idea of always building NET* is to stop changes to other parts of >the system breaking it more than it already is. Yes, but is it worth it with bits like NETISO which no-one seems to use? Gary From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 02:32:08 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14021 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:32:08 -0700 Received: from po2.transarc.com (po2.transarc.com [192.54.226.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA14015 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:32:05 -0700 Received: by po2.transarc.com (5.54/3.15) id for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Apr 95 05:32:00 EDT Received: via switchmail; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3 via qmail ID ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3 via qmail ID ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cui.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.unix3.sun4_40; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:31:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat_Barron@transarc.com To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Two questions/comments about latest -current snapshot.... Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, this weekend, I finally managed to get a copy of -current that would build from /usr/src all the way down, and to get my machine in a condition to do that, for the first time in over a month. Having just finished a "make world", I have a couple of comments and/or questions about what I've just installed..... 1) Now that the disk slice code is in place, shouldn't fdisk be changed to use "/dev/rwd0" instead of "/dev/rwd0d"? (That's a rhetorical question, of course - it seems pretty clear that this should be done.....). [BTW, the error messages that came out of the disk slice code the first time I booted this kernel were pretty scary - talking about partitions being rejected because they were not contained entirely within the slice. It's also pretty scary that, when it discovered this, it apparently modified the on-disk copy of the disk label. For safety, shouldn't I have had to do that manually? It's sort of disconcerting to have stuff dinking with the on-disk disk label behind my back.....] 2) I notice that the SLIP driver has been changed to require a destination address for SIOCSIFADDR. I've never been really sure what to fill in for this, since the device on the other end of my SLIP connection (a Cisco terminal server) doesn't really "look" like a traditional point-to-point interface - the other end doesn't have it's own, distinct IP address. I just put my SLIP address as both the interface address and the destination address, and that seems to work OK. Is there something else I should be doing instead? (OK, that's not strictly a FreeBSD question, but it is something I haven't had to worry about until my latest build of -current). Oh, I actually have a third comment, too (regardless of what the subject line of this message says). "make -DCLOBBER world" does not seem to work, since the build procedure wants to build ld.so very early on, and at the time it tries to do this, libc.a has been removed and not rebuilt yet (of course, ld.so is linked static). (This is different than the the way it used to fail, where /usr/include/ss got messed up....) Enjoy, --Pat. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 02:32:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA14038 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:32:47 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA14026 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:32:25 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA20844; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 19:30:14 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 19:30:14 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504300930.TAA20844@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, gpalmer@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com, davidg@Root.COM Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>It compiles now. >Pardon? >../../netiso/tp_pcb.c: In function `tp_init': >../../netiso/tp_pcb.c:388: structure has no member named `inp_next' Oh. Including queue.h only fixed most of the problems. Only this file and if_fddisubr.c are broken now. >>The idea of always building NET* is to stop changes to other parts of >>the system breaking it more than it already is. >Yes, but is it worth it with bits like NETISO which no-one seems to use? Probably not. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 02:52:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA15928 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:52:09 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA15920 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:52:02 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA29009; Sun, 30 Apr 95 11:51:36 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id MAA05328 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:02:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199504301002.MAA05328@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: world build on blues Sat Apr 29 18:15:00 MET DST 1995 (fwd) To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:01:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2409 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Something got broken in the ibcs2 lkm. See below. Maybe it's just because I built inmidst of sups. Just FYI: Forwarded message: > From root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de Sun Apr 30 05:09:25 1995 > Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:03:50 +0200 > From: Charlie Root > Message-Id: <199504300303.FAA25449@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de> > To: kuku@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de > Subject: world build on blues Sat Apr 29 18:15:00 MET DST 1995 > > ==> /home/kuku/world.log <== > ===> lkm/ibcs2 > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/ibcs2.c > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_dummy.c > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_file.c > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_file.c: In function `ibcs2_close': > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_file.c:66: warning: passing arg 2 of `close' from incompatible pointer type > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ioctl.c > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ioctl.c: In function `ibcs2_ioctl': > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ioctl.c:550: warning: `error' might be used uninitialized in this function > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ipc.c > cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_isc.c > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_isc.c: In function `ibcs2_cisc': > /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_isc.c:126: parse error before `)' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de 2.0.950418-SNAP FreeBSD 2.0.950418-SNAP #0: Sat Apr 22 04:33:25 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/ usr/src/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 02:55:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA15986 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:55:26 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA15979 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:55:25 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14709(1)>; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:54:48 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49859>; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:54:42 -0700 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner), current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Apr 95 23:43:10 PDT." <199504300643.IAA03589@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 02:54:41 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Apr30.025442pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199504300643.IAA03589@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: >Your sd1 should be way faster since it's put into synch mode by >default. Try forcing the synch mode for sd0 with the ncrcontrol >command. It turns out that my bogus interrupt scheme was causing problems, perhaps because the NCR driver didn't like shared interrupts, perhaps because I had jumpered the NCR card to interrupt B so that it wouldn't lock up on probe. I finally got my Plato motherboard to assign two different interrupts to the two cards, and now I am getting 3MB/sec reads =) Bill From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 03:22:57 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA16865 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 03:22:57 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16858 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 03:22:44 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA22020; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:18:57 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:18:57 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504301018.UAA22020@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: Pat_Barron@transarc.com, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Two questions/comments about latest -current snapshot.... Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1) Now that the disk slice code is in place, shouldn't fdisk >be changed to use "/dev/rwd0" instead of "/dev/rwd0d"? (That's >a rhetorical question, of course - it seems pretty clear that this >should be done.....). [BTW, the error messages that came out of It should be changed to have no default. >the disk slice code the first time I booted this kernel were pretty >scary - talking about partitions being rejected because they were >not contained entirely within the slice. It's also pretty scary >that, when it discovered this, it apparently modified the on-disk >copy of the disk label. For safety, shouldn't I have had to do that >manually? It's sort of disconcerting to have stuff dinking with the >on-disk disk label behind my back.....] It actually only modifies the in-core label. The modifications to the on-disk label are only apparent - if you look at them with `disklabel -r' or `od', then you will see a modified version, but if you boot an old kernel then you will see the unmodified version. Writing back the modified version will of course affect the rejected and truncated partition entries. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 03:53:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA17311 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 03:53:25 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA17305 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 03:53:04 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA22688; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:46:51 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:46:51 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504301046.UAA22688@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: Re: world build on blues Sat Apr 29 18:15:00 MET DST 1995 (fwd) Cc: ache@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_file.c: In function `ibcs2_close': >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_file.c:66: warning: passing arg 2 of `close' from incompatible pointer type >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ioctl.c: In function `ibcs2_ioctl': >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ioctl.c:550: warning: `error' might be used uninitialized in this function These may be old problems. >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_isc.c: In function `ibcs2_cisc': >> /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_isc.c:126: parse error before `)' It's amazing how code can rot without even being changed. In this case, the code was already broken, but hidden by an ifdef. _POSIX_SAVED_IDS doesn't necessarily have a value. It is now defined and doesn't have a value. There are related bugs nearby: 1) _POSIX_JOB_CONTROL doesn't necessarily have a value either, and doesn't have one in FreeBSD, but the problem is hidden by a typo in the ifdef (_POSIX_JOB_CONTORL). 2) -1 is supposed to be returned if the functionality implied by these macros being defined is not supported. 0 is actually returned. 0 means the same as 1 (the functionality is supported). There are related bugs elsewhere: 3) kern_sysctl() has the same bug as in (2). Apparently nothing actually uses sysconf(_SC_SAVED_IDS). It has always reported that FreeBSD-2.x has saved ids. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 04:16:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA18179 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:16:24 -0700 Received: from vmbb.cts.com (vmbb.cts.com [192.188.72.18]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA18172 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:16:21 -0700 Received: from io.cts.com by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0s5Wz5-0001eyC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 04:16 PDT Received: (from root@localhost) by io.cts.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA02300 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:16:17 -0700 From: Morgan Davis Message-Id: <199504301116.EAA02300@io.cts.com> Subject: Re: How to write -current bootcode to disk? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:16:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199504290734.JAA03864@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Apr 29, 95 09:34:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 588 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch writes: > > As Wes Santee wrote: > > > > I'm currently running the April snapshot (both kernel and binaries). > > I just supped and compiled the -current kernel and all hell broke > > loose when trying to mount my disks. > > I'm not sure if the boot code is your only problem, but you can > rewrite it with > > disklabel -B [-b /usr/mdec/sdboot] [-s /usr/mdec/bootsd] sd0 > > (The bracketed terms show the defaults.) > > For a wd-style disk: s/sd/wd/g Does this look good to you? io[511]# disklabel -B wd0 Warning, revolutions/minute 0 super block size 0 io[512]# _ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 04:22:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA18293 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:22:47 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA18264 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:22:13 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA21800; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:21:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 04:21:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199504301121.EAA21800@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: mark@grondar.za CC: bugs@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199504292229.AAA10579@grumble.grondar.za> (message from Mark Murray on Sun, 30 Apr 1995 00:29:03 +0200) Subject: Re: pkg_manage has a problem? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I suspect this is work-in-progress, so I am not filing it as a bug report, * rather mentioning it in case it has slipped by?? * * pkg_manage looks like a SUPERB tool, just what I always wanted, thank you, * only; when it starts, it seems to want to find all the info on my installed * packages in tarballs in the /var/db/pkg/.. area. This fails 'cos I build all * my packages myself, and bypass the tarball phase. OTOH, is this a blatant * bug? should it not be looking directly at the 3 + files in the * package directories? If you've picked up the bsd.port.mk and pkg_install from -current, "make install" in a port should have registered the package (just like you did "pkg_add") for you. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 05:01:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA19064 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:01:24 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA19056 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:01:21 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA02404 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:57:55 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sun, 30 Apr 95 15:57:54 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA05371; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:33:46 +0400 To: Bruce Evans , freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de References: <199504301046.UAA22688@godzilla.zeta.org.au> In-Reply-To: <199504301046.UAA22688@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans at Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:46:51 +1000 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:33:45 +0400 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.32 FreeBSD] From: "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: world build on blues Sat Apr 29 18:15:00 MET DST 1995 (fwd) Lines: 19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 809 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199504301046.UAA22688@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans writes: >2) -1 is supposed to be returned if the functionality implied by these > macros being defined is not supported. 0 is actually returned. 0 > means the same as 1 (the functionality is supported). >3) kern_sysctl() has the same bug as in (2). >Apparently nothing actually uses sysconf(_SC_SAVED_IDS). It has always >reported that FreeBSD-2.x has saved ids. NO, gen/sysconf.c code check return value == 0 and return -1 for it. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 05:22:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA19769 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:22:19 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19761 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:22:14 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id OAA25494 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:22:10 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id OAA18306 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:22:09 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199504301222.OAA18306@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:22:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <95Apr29.180419pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Apr 29, 95 06:04:13 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.0.950416-SNAP ctm#562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 779 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > fenestro: {35} time pwd > /home/fenner > 0.0u 0.0s 0:02.21 0.0% 0+0k 3+0io 0pf+0w > fenestro: {36} dd if=/kernel of=snot > 1943+1 records in > 1943+1 records out > 995064 bytes transferred in 20 secs (49753 bytes/sec) > > 50K/sec, I could do NFS over my ISDN line and be faster =) I can assure you the disk is not the problem here : 297 [14:21] root@keltia:/build/calife# dd if=/kernel of=/tmp/foo 1690+1 records in 1690+1 records out 865305 bytes transferred in 1 secs (865305 bytes/sec) (bt0:2:0): "CONNER CFP1080S 3939" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 1030MB (2110812 512 byte sectors) with a BT747S EISA. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0.950416-SNAP #17: Sun Apr 16 17:12:07 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 05:46:52 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA20960 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:46:52 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA20953 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 05:46:39 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA26064; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:42:36 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:42:36 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199504301242.WAA26064@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, root@io.cts.com Subject: Re: How to write -current bootcode to disk? Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I'm not sure if the boot code is your only problem, but you can >> rewrite it with >> >> disklabel -B [-b /usr/mdec/sdboot] [-s /usr/mdec/bootsd] sd0 >> >> (The bracketed terms show the defaults.) >> >> For a wd-style disk: s/sd/wd/g >Does this look good to you? >io[511]# disklabel -B wd0 >Warning, revolutions/minute 0 >super block size 0 >io[512]# _ Not te right. `disklabel -B' only writes the boot blocks, not the label. I think there has to be a label before the boot blocks can be written. The zero values are because there are bogus values in the label. The slice code makes it a bit easier to get a bogus label because it constructs a dummy label with too many zero values. Ideally you should be able to say `disklabel /dev/wd0 >foo' to get a prototype label and then `disklabel -R -r wd0 foo' to apply it. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 06:33:12 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA25835 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 06:33:12 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA25828 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 06:33:08 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11108; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:33:02 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id PAA07355 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:33:02 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05270 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:11:49 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199504301311.PAA05270@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: How to write -current bootcode to disk? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:11:48 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199504301116.EAA02300@io.cts.com> from "Morgan Davis" at Apr 30, 95 04:16:16 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 454 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Morgan Davis wrote: > > Does this look good to you? > > io[511]# disklabel -B wd0 > Warning, revolutions/minute 0 > super block size 0 > io[512]# _ Nope. disklabel -r -e wd0 ...and edit rpm to something reasonable (e.g. 3600). Hmm, super block size 0 -- never seen. Look what disklabel -e gives you. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 09:36:46 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA29110 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:36:46 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA29104 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:36:44 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14650; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:35:48 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA08103; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:35:48 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA06145; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:00:25 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199504301600.SAA06145@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: How to write -current bootcode to disk? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:00:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: root@io.cts.com Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199504301242.WAA26064@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Apr 30, 95 10:42:36 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 790 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Does this look good to you? > > >io[511]# disklabel -B wd0 > >Warning, revolutions/minute 0 > >super block size 0 > >io[512]# _ > > Not te right. `disklabel -B' only writes the boot blocks, not the label. Unfortunately, it even refuses to write the bootcode if the label is bogus. I've once filed a problem report for this, but the problem lies rather in the bogus label itself. (Given the huge amount of libdisk commits now, i hope this will be solved RSN. :) Thinking about it i noticed that the label is embedded in the boot code, so disklabel obviously wants to be safe and does not change anything in case it discovered bogosities. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 09:50:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA29247 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:50:04 -0700 Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA29235 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 09:50:00 -0700 Received: by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE id AA20198 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:49:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199504301649.AA20198@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> From: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 18:49:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bill Fenner "Re: NCR assertion fails?" (Apr 30, 2:54) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Apr 30, 2:54, Bill Fenner wrote: } Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? } It turns out that my bogus interrupt scheme was causing problems, perhaps } because the NCR driver didn't like shared interrupts, perhaps because I } had jumpered the NCR card to interrupt B so that it wouldn't lock up on } probe. I finally got my Plato motherboard to assign two different } interrupts to the two cards, and now I am getting 3MB/sec reads =) Ok. Should have read all replies first. Your problem wasn't caused by sharing interrupts, but by using the PCI IntB line. PCI is designed to work with multi function cards (e.g. SCSI + Ethernet on one card, even implemented on the same chip). And only if there is more than one interrupt source do you use not PCI IntA, but also IntB ... The NCR is a single function chip and always should use IntA only. This is even hard coded into some PCI configuration space register on the chip: ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:14 ^^^^^ reg20: virtual=0xf2aa2800 physical=0xffbff800 size=0x100 using shared irq 9. By making it drive the PCI IntB line, without having any IRQ line actually connected, the NCR was unable to issue any interrupts. This lead to timeouts and command failure in the initialisation phase, were the CPU still is involved in the transfers. As soon as the system was going multi user, the NCR did all the processing on its own, and thus there were no more timeouts. But since it took the CPU upto 1 second (the command timeout value) to check for command completion by polling the device, you got that 1 transfer per second performance (50KB/s). Anyway: I guess some comments on PCI setup rules ought to go into the FAQ, I guess: 1) Bus master slots required for most devices (which) 2) Only PCI IntA used by currently supported PCI cards 3) Shared interrupts supported, but shouldn't be used if there are plenty of free IRQs to assigne to PCI 4) PCI interrupts are assigned to slots on all currently sold motherboards. Level interrupts are used by all PCI devices supported in FreeBSD. I'll try to find time to write something about this before 2.1 comes out ... But if anybody wants to beat me on that :) STefan -- Stefan Esser Internet: Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706017 Universitaet zu Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 Weyertal 80 50931 Koeln From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 11:17:52 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA00498 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 11:17:52 -0700 Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA00492 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 11:17:46 -0700 Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s5dYf-000K0iC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 11:17 WET DST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 95 11:17 WET DST From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Two questions/comments about latest -current snapshot.... In-Reply-To: Organization: Pelican Consulting Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you write: > 2) I notice that the SLIP driver has been changed to require a >destination address for SIOCSIFADDR. I've never been really sure >what to fill in for this, since the device on the other end of my >SLIP connection (a Cisco terminal server) doesn't really "look" like >a traditional point-to-point interface - the other end doesn't have >it's own, distinct IP address. Well, CERFnet has you put cisco.master.address.1 in for this (where my address is cisco.master.address.62) I don't know how configurable a cisco is, so don't know if it will work for any other provider... i.e. I use: ifconfig sl0 inet gate-pelican cit-dial.cerf.net netmask 255.255.255.0 down with gate-pelican == 134.24.4.62 and cit-dial.cerf.net == 134.24.4.1 both in /etc/hosts - the latter does match the dns entry (at nic.cerf.net) for it but that isn't accessible when doing the ifconfig :-) Since I only have one active slip I don't have to use the reconfigure script. ppp will be different but it does its own ifconfig and route... >I just put my SLIP address as both >the interface address and the destination address, and that seems to >work OK. Is there something else I should be doing instead? (OK, that's >not strictly a FreeBSD question, but it is something I haven't had to >worry about until my latest build of -current). I *think* the cisco will work with almost anything in its subnet for the destination, except the individual address for another slip customer... (I presume here you have "locked" slip addresses like cerfnet does, so dns will work; if not, then it may not work the same). You might try the .1 address just to see if that works. (or just stay as you are. If your provider's tech people are both knowledgable and friendly, ask...) I have no cisco manuals myself - the providers that I am dealing with that have manuals to loan plan to use ascend 50's as far as I know, and the cerfnet folks are too far away. -- Pete From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 11:42:30 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA01122 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 11:42:30 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA01116 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 11:42:28 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA00550; Sun, 30 Apr 95 20:42:13 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id UAA06117 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:52:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:52:36 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199504301852.UAA06117@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: file: table is full Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Too many open files in system. I reported this a couple of days ago and noone could make a rhyme upon it. Just one person had seen this under the news server (nn?). My kernel is always up to current so it is unlikely to be the problem of a specific snapshot. I did an ls and saw hundreds of files cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? I'm running the following things which may be not so common in their combination: colorls - (not that I terribly like it - it just happened to be active at that moment) olvwm, Xinside server, four color xterms mrouted, GUS audio kernel world build was running at that time --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 12:05:50 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA01490 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:05:50 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01483 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:05:49 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA29708; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:05:01 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504301905.MAA29708@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504301852.UAA06117@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Apr 30, 95 08:52:36 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 400 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? netscape. -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 12:18:42 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA01733 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:18:42 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01727 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 12:18:39 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id PAA17529; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:11:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:11:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: file: table is full To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504301852.UAA06117@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? netscape. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 13:27:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03218 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:27:25 -0700 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com (mantar@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03211 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:27:21 -0700 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA25837; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:26:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom20 To: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: latest aic7xxx hangs system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been running the latest SNAP till 4/29/95 when i supped current. The new aic7xxx code hangs when booting if i have a tape in the drive (exabyte 8200).also i can do a DUMP but if i try to rewind the tape afterwords the machine locks up.if i do a "mt -f /dev/rst0 status" it also hangs: ach0: Target Busy I would get that message with the old aic7xxx but it would not hang, i would just have to issue the command again. the controller is a adaptec 2742 and has 2 tape drives and a CD no hard drives any help woud be appreciated. Manfred ============================= | mantar@netcom.com | | Ph. (415) 647-4843 | ============================= From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 13:29:20 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03269 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:29:20 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03259 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 13:29:05 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA02898; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:28:21 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA09352; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:28:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199504302028.WAA09352@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: file: table is full Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:28:13 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Too many open files in system. > > I reported this a couple of days ago and noone could make a rhyme > upon it. Just one person had seen this under the news server (nn?). > My kernel is always up to current so it is unlikely to be the problem > of a specific snapshot. > > I did an ls and saw hundreds of files > > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Netscape is the one. Did it to me too. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 14:34:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04428 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:34:27 -0700 Received: from aries.ai.net (ai.net [198.69.35.206]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04422 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:34:23 -0700 Received: (from nc@localhost) by aries.ai.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA00563; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 17:28:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 17:28:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Coordinator To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Paul Traina , current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, phk@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users In-Reply-To: <199504271808.LAA17131@ref.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Once I know the rewritten driver is happy, I'll be adding support for the > > Crynwr/Linux PLIP protocol format. > CooL! When you have that support going, I can test it for you. I have a linux box sitting right next to a freebsd box [both run EPP parallel ports] and move data really well with laplink [under DOS] normally. -Jerry. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 14:49:45 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA04791 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:49:45 -0700 Received: from vmbb.cts.com (vmbb.cts.com [192.188.72.18]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA04783 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:49:40 -0700 Received: from io.cts.com by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0s5grs-0001jSC; Sun, 30 Apr 95 14:49 PDT Received: (from root@localhost) by io.cts.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02483 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:49:31 -0700 From: Morgan Davis Message-Id: <199504302149.OAA02483@io.cts.com> Subject: SUP Upgrade of usrbin (fwd) To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 14:49:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 442 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > SUP Upgrade of usrbin at Sun Apr 30 13:54:25 1995 > SUP Fileserver 8.13 (4.3 BSD) 3915 on freefall.cdrom.com at 13:54:25 > SUP Fileserver supports compression. > SUP Requesting changes since Apr 30 01:42:04 1995 > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp/uuq > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this something I have to manually do, or is there a more serious problem here? From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 15:18:10 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA05629 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:18:10 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA05623 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:18:06 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA28314; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:22:01 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:22:01 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199504302222.QAA28314@trout.sri.MT.net> To: Morgan Davis Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SUP Upgrade of usrbin (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199504302149.OAA02483@io.cts.com> References: <199504302149.OAA02483@io.cts.com> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Morgan Davis writes: > > SUP Upgrade of usrbin at Sun Apr 30 13:54:25 1995 > > SUP Fileserver 8.13 (4.3 BSD) 3915 on freefall.cdrom.com at 13:54:25 > > SUP Fileserver supports compression. > > SUP Requesting changes since Apr 30 01:42:04 1995 > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp/uuq > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Is this something I have to manually do, or is there a more serious > problem here? Do you have leftover .o or other files in those directories? SUP isn't able to delete those directories because it uses 'rmdir', which fails if the directory isn't empty. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 16:35:23 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA06929 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:35:23 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA06918 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 16:35:18 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id BAA27256 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:35:07 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id BAA21314 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:35:06 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199504302335.BAA21314@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 01:35:06 +2600 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504301852.UAA06117@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Apr 30, 95 08:52:36 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.0.950416-SNAP ctm#562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 536 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? Smells like Netscape. > I'm running the following things which may be not so common in their > combination: What is the output of sysctl kern.maxfiles and kern.maxfilesperproc ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0.950416-SNAP #17: Sun Apr 16 17:12:07 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 22:23:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA14285 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:23:25 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA14276 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:23:18 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA11195; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:20:26 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505010520.WAA11195@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:20:25 -3100 (PDT) Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com, julian@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199504300519.WAA03214@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Apr 29, 95 10:19:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1264 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > >from LINT (with -Wall) > > > >../../net/if_fddisubr.c: In function `fddi_input': > >../../net/if_fddisubr.c:486: `ac' undeclared (first use this function) > >../../net/if_fddisubr.c:486: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > >../../net/if_fddisubr.c:486: for each function it appears in.) > >../../net/if_fddisubr.c:487: `eh' undeclared (first use this function) > > > >Someone cure please... > > This is the third report I've gotten about this. It is of course fixable, > but the 'right' fix is probably to remove the netiso code. Noone in our group > has the ability to test it, and as far as I know it is broken and useless. The > errors are ocurring because LINT defines options "ISO" and the if_fddisubr.c's > ISO code is out of date. There are people out there playing with the NETISO code, at one time there was a very large patch submitted against the 1.1.X code to actually make it all work. Also I belive there are people at TRW who have the code in 2.0 working again. Julian can you respond on this, it seems I talked to someone there who was working on this stuff? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 22:38:21 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA14465 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:38:21 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA14459 ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:38:20 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA01701; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:38:10 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505010538.WAA01701@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: davidg@Root.COM, current@freefall.cdrom.com, julian@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505010520.WAA11195@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Apr 30, 95 10:20:25 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 666 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > There are people out there playing with the NETISO code, at one time there > was a very large patch submitted against the 1.1.X code to actually make > it all work. Also I belive there are people at TRW who have the code in > 2.0 working again. > > Julian can you respond on this, it seems I talked to someone there who > was working on this stuff? we use it under OSF and are tossing up whether to use it under FreeBSD... certainly don't throw it out.. it's actually quite valuable.. > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 22:56:51 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA14867 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:56:51 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA14861 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:56:46 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA11372; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:53:48 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505010553.WAA11372@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Two questions/comments about latest -current snapshot.... To: Pat_Barron@transarc.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:53:47 -3100 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Pat_Barron@transarc.com" at Apr 30, 95 05:31:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 834 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ... > Oh, I actually have a third comment, too (regardless of what the > subject line of this message says). "make -DCLOBBER world" does not > seem to work, since the build procedure wants to build ld.so very early > on, and at the time it tries to do this, libc.a has been removed and > not rebuilt yet (of course, ld.so is linked static). (This is > different than the the way it used to fail, where /usr/include/ss got > messed up....) I will take a look at this and find out what got out of sequence yet again in the build procedure that is causing this problem and fix it. I have not run with the -DCLOBBER in a while, I usually am the one who keeps that working :-(. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 23:09:56 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA15081 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:09:56 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA15075 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:09:52 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA11469; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:06:46 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505010606.XAA11469@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? To: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 23:06:45 -3100 (PDT) Cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504301649.AA20198@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> from "Stefan Esser" at Apr 30, 95 06:49:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1105 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyway: I guess some comments on PCI setup rules > ought to go into the FAQ, I guess: > > 1) Bus master slots required for most devices (which) > 2) Only PCI IntA used by currently supported PCI cards This is not true, I have run Bt946's set to IntB, it is *heavly* PCI BIOS dependent on what you can and can not do here as far as moving things around! I am pretty darn sure I can also go make an NCR810 card work on int B, C or D if I wished to. > 3) Shared interrupts supported, but shouldn't be used > if there are plenty of free IRQs to assigne to PCI > 4) PCI interrupts are assigned to slots on all currently > sold motherboards. Level interrupts are used by all > PCI devices supported in FreeBSD. Not true, I have run the BT946 is edge mode :-). > I'll try to find time to write something about this > before 2.1 comes out ... > But if anybody wants to beat me on that :) Please write it, and send it to me for review. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:14:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA15769 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:14:37 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15758 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:14:17 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA04072; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:13:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA12587; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:13:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199505010713.JAA12587@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: Morgan Davis , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SUP Upgrade of usrbin (fwd) Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:13:59 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Morgan Davis writes: > > > SUP Upgrade of usrbin at Sun Apr 30 13:54:25 1995 > > > SUP Fileserver 8.13 (4.3 BSD) 3915 on freefall.cdrom.com at 13:54:25 > > > SUP Fileserver supports compression. > > > SUP Requesting changes since Apr 30 01:42:04 1995 > > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp/uuq > > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Is this something I have to manually do, or is there a more serious > > problem here? > > Do you have leftover .o or other files in those directories? SUP isn't > able to delete those directories because it uses 'rmdir', which fails if > the directory isn't empty. I usually found it was the obj symlink that caused these... M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:20:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA15851 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:20:09 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15845 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:20:08 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA10667 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:20:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199505010720.JAA10667@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: ld.so in fixit Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:20:04 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Because of crashes, my ld.so has been removed 2 times since 1995, It would be nice (if enough space on fixit-floppy) to consider adding it. -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:23:29 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA15891 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:23:29 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15885 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:23:27 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA10680 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:23:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199505010723.JAA10680@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: scsiconf.h: compilation warning Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:23:22 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I received (3 days old current) at line 189 the following warning: struct buf declared inside parameter list. maybe a missing struct buf; near line 150. -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:29:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA16088 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:29:15 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA16082 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:29:13 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA10698 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:29:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199505010729.JAA10698@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: new dynamic libraries from ports Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:29:08 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When a dynamic library is added (in the ldconfig's searching path), the library is not seen until ldconfig is rerun (because ld.so only search for libs in ld.so.hints). This is a problem when making some ports (e.g xv) that depend on libs (e.g libtiff and libjpeg). -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:33:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA16192 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:33:39 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA16184 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:33:37 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HPZFR2VUSW002J72@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 01 May 1995 09:33:39 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA07713; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:42:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 09:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: file: table is full In-reply-to: <199504302335.BAA21314@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at May 1, 95 01:35:06 am To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199505010742.JAA07713@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 869 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? > > Smells like Netscape. > > > I'm running the following things which may be not so common in their > > combination: > > What is the output of sysctl kern.maxfiles and kern.maxfilesperproc ? kern.maxfiles = 168 kern.maxfilesperproc = 168 > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD keltia 2.0.950416-SNAP #17: Sun Apr 16 17:12:07 MET DST 1995 > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:39:22 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA16303 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:39:22 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA16297 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:39:20 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA03166; Mon, 1 May 95 09:39:00 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA07726 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:48:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:48:51 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199505010748.JAA07726@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: file: table is full Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could it be that there is a problem with running BSDI binaries in general? netscape and sd/vat/wb *are* BSDI binaries. It could well be that I always got these file: table is full messages when I ran one of these binaries on a 'make world'-burdened machine. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 00:47:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA16480 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:47:13 -0700 Received: from po2.transarc.com (po2.transarc.com [192.54.226.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA16474 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 00:47:11 -0700 Received: by po2.transarc.com (5.54/3.15) id for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 May 95 03:47:03 EDT Received: via switchmail; Mon, 1 May 1995 03:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3 via qmail ID ; Mon, 1 May 1995 03:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3 via qmail ID ; Mon, 1 May 1995 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.12.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.unix3.sun4_40; Mon, 1 May 1995 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat_Barron@transarc.com To: Morgan Davis , Nate Williams Subject: Re: SUP Upgrade of usrbin (fwd) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504302222.QAA28314@trout.sri.MT.net> References: <199504302149.OAA02483@io.cts.com> <199504302222.QAA28314@trout.sri.MT.net> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: > > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp/uuq > > > SUP: Unable to delete directory usr.bin/uucp > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Is this something I have to manually do, or is there a more serious > > problem here? > > Do you have leftover .o or other files in those directories? SUP isn't > able to delete those directories because it uses 'rmdir', which fails if > the directory isn't empty. When this happens to me, usually there is an "obj" link in the directory. --Pat. From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 01:39:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA17657 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:39:11 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA17646 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:39:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA20262; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:39:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Philippe Charnier" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: new dynamic libraries from ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 1995 09:29:08 +0200." <199505010729.JAA10698@lirmm.lirmm.fr> Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 01:39:01 -0700 Message-ID: <20260.799317541@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When a dynamic library is added (in the ldconfig's searching path), > the library is not seen until ldconfig is rerun (because ld.so only > search for libs in ld.so.hints). This is a problem when making some > ports (e.g xv) that depend on libs (e.g libtiff and libjpeg). This has come up before. ldconfig needs two things: 1. An option for "refreshing" its internal path. 2. An option for adding a directory to that path. In conversations with Satoshi, I've recommended that a new `-a' flag be added. If you give it no directories as args, it does the `refresh' action. Both options handled with one flag. Adding a directory that's already in the search list should also be handled gracefully (essentially, "refresh this directory"). This would allow people to put stuff like: @exec ldconfig -a ${PREFIX}/lib In their packing lists or install rules. The only problem is, I have no time to do this now. Any takers? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 02:02:51 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA18643 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:02:51 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA18636 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:02:43 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA11250; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:02:33 +0200 Message-Id: <199505010902.LAA11250@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: new dynamic libraries from ports In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 1995 01:39:01 PDT." <20260.799317541@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 11:02:30 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Salut, In the message Re: new dynamic libraries from ports , "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote : > >This has come up before. ldconfig needs two things: > >1. An option for "refreshing" its internal path. >2. An option for adding a directory to that path. > >In conversations with Satoshi, I've recommended that a new `-a' flag >be added. If you give it no directories as args, it does the >`refresh' action. Both options handled with one flag. Adding a >directory that's already in the search list should also be handled >gracefully (essentially, "refresh this directory"). So, ldconfig need to remember its last call (without -a). This means that a line need to be added in ld.so.hints e.g # /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib where # looks like a comment line for ld.so which should of course walk over this line. -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 05:57:33 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA23584 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 05:57:33 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA23569 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 05:57:06 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id OAA29506 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:57:02 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id OAA23339 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:57:02 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.frmug.fr.net (8.6.11/keltia-uucp-1.21) id OAA08477; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:55:53 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199505011255.OAA08477@keltia.frmug.fr.net> Subject: Problem with ibcs2 lkm module and POSIX_SAVED_ID To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Bugs' list), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Current Users' list) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:55:52 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1215 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -current from yesterday, ctm#617 19950430200001. cc -O -m486 -pipe -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/src/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /src/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c /src/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c: In function `ibcs2_cxenix': /src/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c:271: parse error before `)' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. The problem come from the definition of _POSIX_SAVED_IDS : ------------------------------------------------------------ 246 [14:35] root@keltia:src/lib# grep _POSIX_SAVED_IDS /sys/sys/unistd.h /sys/sys/unistd.h:#define _POSIX_SAVED_IDS /* saved set-user-ID ------------------------------------------------------------ and the following code in ibcs2_xenix.c : ------------------------------------------------------------ #ifdef _POSIX_SAVED_IDS *retval = (_POSIX_SAVED_IDS); #else *retval = (0); #endif ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 08:13:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA27111 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:13:44 -0700 Received: from bigdipper.umd.edu (bigdipper.umd.edu [128.8.220.139]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA27105 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:13:40 -0700 Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.umd.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA29491; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:13:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: file: table is full In-Reply-To: <199504301852.UAA06117@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Netscape v1.0 makes all those MCOM files and the cache files... On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > Too many open files in system. > > I reported this a couple of days ago and noone could make a rhyme > upon it. Just one person had seen this under the news server (nn?). > My kernel is always up to current so it is unlikely to be the problem > of a specific snapshot. > > I did an ls and saw hundreds of files > > cache20302125 cache2030234 and so on, headed by a file named > MCOM-cache-fat. A few seconds later the files were gone. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Anyone knowing which application is producing this kind of files? > > I'm running the following things which may be not so common in their > combination: > > > colorls - (not that I terribly like it - it just happened to be active > at that moment) > olvwm, Xinside server, four color xterms > > mrouted, GUS audio kernel > > world build was running at that time > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: > Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr > c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 > -------------------------------------___--------------------------------- | Al Dhir, Programmer Analyst /___\ UMCP Ag-Engineering Dept | | Internet: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (o o) (301) 405-1197 | ---------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 09:24:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA29706 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:24:37 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA29700 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:24:29 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id SAA00877 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:24:25 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id SAA23963 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:24:24 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505011624.SAA23963@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:24:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505010742.JAA07713@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph Kukulies" at May 1, 95 09:42:17 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 548 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > kern.maxfiles = 168 > kern.maxfilesperproc = 168 You've got a problem around here... Here are my values : kern.version = FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 roberto@keltia:/src/src/sys/compile/KELTIA kern.maxvnodes = 1347 kern.maxproc = 340 kern.maxfiles = 680 Your kern.maxfiles seems far too low. What is the value of your MAXUSERS parameter in the config file ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 09:41:23 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA00104 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:41:23 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA29997 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:41:21 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA24848; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:40:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:40:37 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505011640.AA24848@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: if_fddisubr.c In-Reply-To: <199504300823.SAA19250@godzilla.zeta.org.au> References: <199504300823.SAA19250@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> Objections? > It compiles now. > The idea of always building NET* is to stop changes to other parts of > the system breaking it more than it already is. This begs the question of whether OSI support is even worth wasting a millisecond of thought on. In another year, the answer will probably be ``what, are you crazy?''. For now, it's more like ``well, maybe just one''. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 10:03:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA00612 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:03:02 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA00606 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:03:00 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id TAA01098 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:02:50 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id TAA24136 ; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:02:49 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505011702.TAA24136@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:02:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505011658.SAA08886@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph Kukulies" at May 1, 95 06:58:15 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 435 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There ain't such a parameter. You mean my /sys/i386/conf/BLUESGUS, right? > I don't find MAXUSERS in any of the stock config files. Sorry, I was thinking of that one : maxusers 20 As the global number of open files is roughly derived from that value, I wonder the one you use. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 10:17:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA00979 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:17:25 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA00973 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:17:18 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HQ002T7XYO002K87@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 01 May 1995 19:14:59 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id TAA08982; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:23:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 19:23:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: file: table is full In-reply-to: <199505011702.TAA24136@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at May 1, 95 07:02:49 pm To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199505011723.TAA08982@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 1149 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > There ain't such a parameter. You mean my /sys/i386/conf/BLUESGUS, right? > > I don't find MAXUSERS in any of the stock config files. > > Sorry, I was thinking of that one : Blackout on my side :-) Of course I had a maxusers: maxusers 4 And I always don't want to keep it that low, though the machine is well equipped (32MB).I don't want to have too many users running simultaneous- ly. Strictly speaking, it's a single user machine and I login at most from two or three different sources. I think then the calculations for max open files should be a bit more generous even for small maxusers values. > > maxusers 20 > > As the global number of open files is roughly derived from that value, > I wonder the one you use. > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 10:49:30 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA01618 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:49:30 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA01612 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:49:28 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA09538; Mon, 1 May 95 11:42:16 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505011742.AA09538@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: new dynamic libraries from ports To: charnier@lirmm.fr (Philippe Charnier) Date: Mon, 1 May 95 11:42:15 MDT Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505010902.LAA11250@lirmm.lirmm.fr> from "Philippe Charnier" at May 1, 95 11:02:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >This has come up before. ldconfig needs two things: > > > >1. An option for "refreshing" its internal path. > >2. An option for adding a directory to that path. 3. an option for deleting a directory from the path. > So, ldconfig need to remember its last call (without -a). This > means that a line need to be added in ld.so.hints > e.g > # /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib > > where # looks like a comment line for ld.so which should of course walk > over this line. Since dups are eliminated, the last command would be the current set; this state should be available without that line in the hints file. On the other hand, this is starting to look a lot like the problem that is solved by xset. 8-). To set the font path: fp= path[,path...] To restore the default font path: fp default To have the server reread font databases: fp rehash To remove elements from font path: -fp path[,path...] fp- path[,path...] To prepend or append elements to font path: +fp path[,path...] fp+ path[,path...] Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 11:27:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA02541 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:27:55 -0700 Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA02533 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:27:49 -0700 Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s60Bx-000K0iC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:27 WET DST Message-Id: From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Subject: Re: fdisk+disklabel, etc To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505010724.RAA20670@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at May 1, 95 05:24:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5406 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: > No, fdisk defaults to the numbers in the label, which currently gives > numbers guessed from the partition table. I'm running current from Friday or Saturday... That wasn't what mine did; I could *never* get a label written at all, once fdisk had been done with *any* reasonable parms. It always refused to write it out (with -w -r). Part of the problem may be that this is a 540mb drive so the 1023 hack won't work. I once had a dos scsi driver (in 1983!) that ignored the slice table chs values completely and went only by the 32-bit numbers. Why else are they in there!! I admit that dos's format and fdisk won't work with that since they insist on using int 13 for everything... We don't except for initial boot; why pay *any* attention to them? > Do you have a current sbin/disklabel? Old versions silently truncate > d_secperunit to a cylinder boundary if you write out the label using > `disklabel -e'. This causes problems if the size of the C partition > isn't truncated to match. Yes. (if last Saturday is current enough). > >to yell "stop"). The slice size should probably match the 'identify' > >size at least for scsi disks. > Disk size? Fdisk needs to allow larger sizes, at least for non-scsi > disks. I've just remembered that I have some ST506 disks with >1024 > cylinders in storage. My BIOSes couldn't handle this, but the disks > could be used by telling fdisk the actual number of cylinders. When > the geometry-guessing stuff in the drivers goes away (we're going to > rely on the geometry reported by the drive or the BIOS geometry), then > drivers will still have to set the number of cylinders to > max(BIOS number, max in partition table). That is part of what I wanted to hear; please do ignore the chs stuff in the slice table at least for sd drives. Remember that dos doesn't use them for this purpose either; there is a geometry description pointed to in int 41 and some other that is used. No guessing involved, and once fdisk'd, dos does NOT insist on things being on cyl boundaries; it is only a convenience for fdisk. It may involve the boot getting bigger to get these without clobbering anything at boot time. > >These disks also report sec/trk numbers > >that are too high. The drive I've got here has a size that doesn't > Too low. They are calculated by the driver, rounding down. Well 92 > 64... That's what I meant by too high. The reality is that the sec/trk number is not constant for most of these drives, so *anything* you do with it is bogus, unless you get the breakpoint table from the drive and use it to figure out true cylinders. In any case this won't fit in a slice table. > There's not going to be a suitable factorization in general. I suggest > using "Adaptec" geometry (64H 32S) for drives up to 1GB and keep doubling > the number of heads for larger drives if you want to keep the number of > cylinders <= 1024. Unfortunately, this stops working after 4G (256H) > and you have to use a non-power of 2 for the number of sectors. Also, > my (Buslogic) scsi BIOS seems to always use 64H 32S although it claims > to support drives with > 1024C, so it only supports 1/4 of one of my > drives under DOS. I don't really mind since I don't need to use the > drive for DOS. That is one (of many) thing I tried. *nothing* let me write a label using the correct description in disktab, either with some fdisk or with the slice-table area zeroed. Your trick of faking out the label then editing to the *same* parms worked. Something is very funny in disklabel... (and disklabel needs to ignore geometry too for the initial write and rely on the origin/size variables only, just like the driver needs to.) > >Also, giving the "no magic" message is bogus on a write to rsd1... > >(dd'ing /dev/zero to it, for example). A raw disk device can be used > >for anything, for example SGI uses raw unlabelled disks for video to > > My floppy driver supports slices so I get it for floppies too. It is > very annoying for floppies but I think it should stay for hard disks. > I don't like all slices and partitions depending on 2 magic bytes. NO NO NO. As I said, there are other uses that disks can have. There should be *no* messages normally in circumstances expected for a given device; since the raw whole-drive device can be used for anything, the message is truly bogus. *(minor) flame on* Personally I don't like *any* of the per-open driver messages; I hope a #define can be put in to suppress them except in cases of *true* errors or inconsistencies (or boot -v or such). Also the current slice code detects inconsistencies (by believing the geometry from the slice table) that aren't there for sd.. devices. We don't need the geometry at all, especially since newfs ignores it now anyway. It truly has no use except to confuse users of fdisk. Maybe the first time a given set of values is loaded would be OK if you insist, but *never* thereafter. Such messages belong only as a debugging tool (boot -v or such?). > >avoid the fs overhead; a kernel message (even a syslog) would kill a > >vertical-interval time... > > So would unnecessary open()s :-). Yes, but that is faster than a non-interruptable message of a line or so. remember that this message holds EVERYTHING running, not just the proc that did the open. Admittedly no extra opens get done there either. -- Pete From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 12:26:57 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA03402 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:26:57 -0700 Received: from isl.cf.ac.uk (isl-gate.elsy.cf.ac.uk [131.251.22.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03389 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:26:37 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by isl.cf.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA02752 for FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 May 1995 20:26:34 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199505011926.UAA02752@isl.cf.ac.uk> Subject: NCR 53C700 To: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current mailing list) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 20:26:34 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 494 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know anything about these SCSI controllers. I just tried to install FreeBSD on one and it didn't recognise it. Are they similar to the NCR cards we currently support or is it a totally different beast. Anyone planning to get it working? -- Paul Richards, FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, URL: http://isl.cf.ac.uk/~paul/ Phone: +44 1222 874000 x6646 (work), +44 1222 457651 (home) Dept. Mechanical Engineering, University of Wales, College Cardiff. From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 13:06:05 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA03973 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:06:05 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03967 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:05:54 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA01364; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:08:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:08:18 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505012008.OAA01364@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: Paul Richards "NCR 53C700" (May 1, 8:26pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Paul Richards , FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current mailing list) Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know anything about these SCSI controllers. I just tried to > install FreeBSD on one and it didn't recognise it. Are they similar to the > NCR cards we currently support or is it a totally different beast. It's a totally diffferent beast. I don't think it does bus-mastering, and it's a much older chipset than the newer chips. I think it's the standard chipset used on many of the Amiga SCSI controllers. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 13:10:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA04065 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:10:25 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA04011 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:08:32 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16219; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:42:51 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA16071; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:42:51 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA11959; Mon, 1 May 1995 21:42:07 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505011942.VAA11959@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:42:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505011723.TAA08982@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph Kukulies" at May 1, 95 07:23:41 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 693 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > maxusers 4 > > And I always don't want to keep it that low, though the machine is > well equipped (32MB).I don't want to have too many users running simultaneous- > ly. Denkfehler! The maxusers does in no way limit the maximal allowable number of simultaneous users! To the best, you could limit the number of available pty's, if you really care. Or the number of processes per user. maxusers is only a rough value to derive several constants from. For a 32 MB machine, you can safely bump it to at least 20. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 13:45:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA05268 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:45:13 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA05260 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:45:08 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HPZZ699TJ4002JZR@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 01 May 1995 18:49:32 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id SAA08886; Mon, 1 May 1995 18:58:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 18:58:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: file: table is full In-reply-to: <199505011624.SAA23963@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at May 1, 95 06:24:24 pm To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199505011658.SAA08886@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 972 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > kern.maxfiles = 168 > > kern.maxfilesperproc = 168 > > You've got a problem around here... Here are my values : > > kern.version = FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 > roberto@keltia:/src/src/sys/compile/KELTIA > kern.maxvnodes = 1347 > kern.maxproc = 340 > kern.maxfiles = 680 > > Your kern.maxfiles seems far too low. > > What is the value of your MAXUSERS parameter in the config file ? There ain't such a parameter. You mean my /sys/i386/conf/BLUESGUS, right? I don't find MAXUSERS in any of the stock config files. > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950430 FreeBSD BUILT-19950430 #0: Sun Apr 30 12:24:30 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 14:42:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA06801 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:42:39 -0700 Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA06795 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 14:42:30 -0700 Received: by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE id AA18437 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Mon, 1 May 1995 23:35:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199505012135.AA18437@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> From: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:35:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: Paul Richards "NCR 53C700" (May 1, 20:26) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Paul Richards Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 1, 20:26, Paul Richards wrote: } Subject: NCR 53C700 } Does anyone know anything about these SCSI controllers. I just tried to } install FreeBSD on one and it didn't recognise it. Are they similar to the } NCR cards we currently support or is it a totally different beast. The NCR 53c8xx chips used on PCI SCSI cards are the integrated PCI bus versions of the 53c7xx. The 8xx offer a few additional features over the older 7xx, but the most important difference is, that the 8xx offer a standard configuration mode for interrupts, DMA and addressing of registers on the chip. The 8xx controllers offer better performance, but this doesn't mean, that support for the 7xx would be of no use ... On the other hand, there is only one motherboard that comes with oboard 53c700 chips (sold by Siemens/Nixdorf). I know of no add on cards with that chip, and of no other system that has it on the motherboard. } Anyone planning to get it working? It wouldn't be to hard to modify the NCR 53c8xx driver for the 7xx. This would require patches to the program loop executed by the NCR (all the "interrupt on the fly" commands must be replaced by standard interrupt commands, for example). I'm not sure about the DMA engine or need of an external DMA controller, but I can check the details in a 53c7xx data book. But I don't have the hardware, and I don't think many others have, so I currently don't intend to put any effort in support for the 7xx. (What kind of machine do you have this controller in ?) Trying to write a driver without physical access to a machine to run it on would be a silly idea, IMHO :) Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser Internet: Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706017 Universitaet zu Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 Weyertal 80 50931 Koeln From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 15:43:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA08844 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:43:44 -0700 Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA08834 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:43:33 -0700 Received: by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE id AA19159 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Tue, 2 May 1995 00:39:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199505012239.AA19159@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> From: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 00:39:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: Nate Williams "Re: NCR 53C700" (May 1, 14:08) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 1, 14:08, Nate Williams wrote: } Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 } > Does anyone know anything about these SCSI controllers. I just tried to } > install FreeBSD on one and it didn't recognise it. Are they similar to the } > NCR cards we currently support or is it a totally different beast. } } It's a totally diffferent beast. I don't think it does bus-mastering, } and it's a much older chipset than the newer chips. I think it's the } standard chipset used on many of the Amiga SCSI controllers. No, it's not so different at all ! The 53c810 driver was written based on data books for the 53c7xx series, until the correct manuals arrived. The 7xx doesn't support all commands the 8xx offers, but a driver could be written to support both of them. But that driver could not make best use of the 8xx chips' capabilities ... STefan From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 15:56:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA09413 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:56:37 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09380 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:56:13 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA13044; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:51:53 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505012251.PAA13044@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 To: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 15:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: paul@isl.cf.ac.uk, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505012135.AA18437@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> from "Stefan Esser" at May 1, 95 11:35:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1342 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On the other hand, there is only one motherboard > that comes with oboard 53c700 chips (sold by > Siemens/Nixdorf). I know of no add on cards with > that chip, and of no other system that has it > on the motherboard. Acculogic ISA and VLB cards use 53C7XX's of some type, I can't find my product data sheet right now :-(. > } Anyone planning to get it working? > > It wouldn't be to hard to modify the NCR 53c8xx > driver for the 7xx. This would require patches > to the program loop executed by the NCR (all the > "interrupt on the fly" commands must be replaced > by standard interrupt commands, for example). > > I'm not sure about the DMA engine or need of an > external DMA controller, but I can check the > details in a 53c7xx data book. > > But I don't have the hardware, and I don't think > many others have, so I currently don't intend to > put any effort in support for the 7xx. (What kind > of machine do you have this controller in ?) > > Trying to write a driver without physical access to > a machine to run it on would be a silly idea, IMHO :) The LINUX driver supports both 53C7XX and 53C8XX, maybe some arrangements can be made to get you some hardware. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 16:08:49 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA10013 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:08:49 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA09993 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:08:43 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id BAA03146 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:08:38 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id BAA25580 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:08:38 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505012308.BAA25580@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: file: table is full To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:08:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505011723.TAA08982@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph Kukulies" at May 1, 95 07:23:41 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 675 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > maxusers 4 > > And I always don't want to keep it that low, though the machine is > well equipped (32MB).I don't want to have too many users running simultaneous- > ly. Strictly speaking, it's a single user machine and I login at most > from two or three different sources. maxusers is poorly named. It does not mean any form of simultaneous users or anything like that... It is the old name from 4.xBSD (maybe before). Change it to be at least 8 if you want to have enough space in various kernel tables. 4 is far too low. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 17:56:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA12729 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:56:25 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA12722 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:56:20 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA26711; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:56:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA00186; Mon, 1 May 1995 17:02:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199505020002.RAA00186@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: se@mi.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser), fenner@parc.xerox.com, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NCR assertion fails? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Apr 95 23:06:45." <199505010606.XAA11469@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 17:01:40 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> 2) Only PCI IntA used by currently supported PCI cards > >This is not true, I have run Bt946's set to IntB, it is *heavly* >PCI BIOS dependent on what you can and can not do here as far >as moving things around! I am pretty darn sure I can also go >make an NCR810 card work on int B, C or D if I wished to. I'm using the NCR w/Int B in the machine next to me. This was a requirement because of the screwy nature of the motherboard PCI BIOS it has. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 20:00:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA16807 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 20:00:11 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA16794 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 20:00:00 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13954; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:56:38 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505020256.TAA13954@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Named in /etc/{rc,sysconfig} and named.restart To: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504121749.AAA13212@gw.itfs.nsk.su> from "Nickolay N. Dudorov" at Apr 13, 95 00:49:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1929 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > /etc/sysconfig says that "for most hosts" > named should be started as > named -b /etc/namedb/named.boot > but scripts such as named.restart provided "for all hosts" > restarts named without any args (assuming /etc/named.boot). > > We'll either modify named sources to look at > /etc/namedb/named.boot or modify scripts (named.restart etc), > or upgarde to bind.4.9.3-BETA17 and use (modified) ndc.sh > for named control. Here is my current solution to this, it will be commited after you review it and tell me that it does just what you want it to do. It fixes the problem you pointed out, and a few others that I found along the way (like errors if no named has ever been started). It also will *not* start a named if /etc/sysconfig says to not start one, just like /etc/rc :-) Index: named.restart.sh =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/named/tools/named.restart/named.restart.sh,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.2 named.restart.sh *** 1.2 1994/09/22 20:45:26 --- named.restart.sh 1995/05/02 02:52:02 *************** *** 4,12 **** # $Id: named.restart.sh,v 1.2 1994/09/22 20:45:26 pst Exp $ # PATH=%DESTSBIN%:/bin:/usr/bin ! pid=`cat %PIDDIR%/named.pid` ! kill $pid ! sleep 5 ! exec %INDOT%named --- 4,23 ---- # $Id: named.restart.sh,v 1.2 1994/09/22 20:45:26 pst Exp $ # + # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. + if [ -f /etc/sysconfig ]; then + . /etc/sysconfig + fi + PATH=%DESTSBIN%:/bin:/usr/bin ! if [ -f %PIDDIR%/named.pid ]; then ! pid=`cat %PIDDIR%/named.pid` ! kill $pid ! sleep 5 ! fi ! ! # $namedflags is imported from /etc/sysconfig ! if [ "X${namedflags}" != "XNO" ]; then ! exec %INDOT%named ${namedflags} ! fi -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 23:28:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA21405 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:28:04 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA21368 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:24:17 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA27124; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:24:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 14:24:45 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-CURRENT-L Subject: Re: file: table is full In-Reply-To: <199505010742.JAA07713@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 May 1995, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > What is the output of sysctl kern.maxfiles and kern.maxfilesperproc ? > > kern.maxfiles = 168 > kern.maxfilesperproc = 168 Hmmmm... mine are set to 552 both (kernel has the default MAXUSERS setting... 10?) -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 23:59:43 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA21942 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:59:43 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA21928 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 23:59:11 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HQ0SUODD6O002KYW@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 02 May 1995 08:59:11 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA10790; Tue, 2 May 1995 09:07:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 09:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: file: table is full In-reply-to: <199505012308.BAA25580@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at May 2, 95 01:08:37 am To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199505020707.JAA10790@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 1035 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > maxusers 4 > > > > And I always don't want to keep it that low, though the machine is xxxxx I believe I meant *want* to keep... > > well equipped (32MB).I don't want to have too many users running simultaneous- > > ly. Strictly speaking, it's a single user machine and I login at most > > from two or three different sources. > > maxusers is poorly named. It does not mean any form of simultaneous users or > anything like that... It is the old name from 4.xBSD (maybe before). Change it > to be at least 8 if you want to have enough space in various kernel tables. > 4 is far too low. OK, I see. > > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950501 FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 17:20:21 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 00:32:34 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA23037 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:32:34 -0700 Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA23027 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:32:24 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/campino-7) id AA09525; Tue, 2 May 95 09:32:00 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA10873 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Tue, 2 May 1995 09:42:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:42:18 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199505020742.JAA10873@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Though reported on past Friday and supposedly been fixed by ache (?) I still don't see the fix in my supped tree. ibcs2 still fails to compile due to that #define _POSIX_SAVED_IDS in sys/unistd.h. The code in /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix relies on that macro being defined to something evaluable. I wonder if it's time to blame sup or what is the cause? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de FreeBSD blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de BUILT-19950501 FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 17:20:21 MET DST 1995 root@blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de:/usr/sr c/sys/compile/BLUESGUS i386 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 02:16:34 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA27426 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 02:16:34 -0700 Received: from silicon.csci.csusb.edu (silicon.csci.csusb.edu [139.182.38.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA27419 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 02:16:24 -0700 Received: from orion.csci.csusb.edu by silicon.csci.csusb.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01645; Tue, 2 May 1995 02:21:50 +0800 Received: by orion.csci.csusb.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14983; Tue, 2 May 1995 02:15:58 +0800 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 02:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal Westfall To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: make world fails Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 600 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After about 11 hours of compiling make world failed: cc -O2 -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_IBCS2 -DKERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys -W -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c: In function `ibcs2_cxenix': /usr/src/lkm/ibcs2/../../sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix.c:271: parse error before `)' *** Error code 1 Stop. Neal Westfall nwestfal@csci.csusb.edu FreeBSD 2.0-BUILT-19950501 #1: Mon May 1 12:49:11 PDT 1995 root@darkside.csci.csusb.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/DARKSIDE From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 03:04:57 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA28850 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 03:04:57 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA28793 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 03:03:00 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA06391; Tue, 2 May 1995 03:03:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 03:03:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021003.DAA06391@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: mv? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've seen mv complain a few times for no apparent reasons on thud today....(?_?) Satoshi ------- >> ls -sFlg total 7 1 drwxr-xr-x 5 asami asami 512 May 2 03:01 ./ 1 drwxr-xr-x 4 asami asami 512 May 2 03:01 ../ 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 asami asami 597 May 2 02:28 Makefile 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 asami asami 596 May 2 01:07 Makefile~ 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 asami asami 512 May 2 01:39 files/ 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 asami asami 512 May 2 00:41 pkg/ 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root asami 512 May 2 02:54 work/ >> mv work .. mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 04:04:48 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA01393 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:04:48 -0700 Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA01302 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:02:57 -0700 Received: by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE id AA01730 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Tue, 2 May 1995 13:01:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199505021101.AA01730@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE> From: se@MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 13:01:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: Nate Williams "Re: NCR 53C700" (May 1, 16:52) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 1, 16:52, Nate Williams wrote: } Subject: Re: NCR 53C700 } } The reason I said it was a completely different beast was because a } friend of mine tried porting his 53c7xx driver and it didn't work on the } new cards due to functionality changes. The addition of bus-mastering } and other new features made (in his mind) the older chipset obsolete. Hmm, seems our opinions don't differ that much. You concentrate on the differences; I looked at the similarities ... :) In fact, the bus interface, lack of clear rules (i.e. flexibility) of register access methods and need to be integrated into a system's DMA environment make writing a generic 53c7xx driver a lot harder than doing the same thing for the 53c8xx, which has all these fixed (by having it integrated on the controller chip). By using the SDMS BIOS extension to drive the NCR chips, a driver could be written to support both (Drew Eckhard did this for Linux). But at a severe penalty in transfer speed and CPU load ! I also consider the 53c7xx chip set obsolete in the PC environment, but it has been used on S-Bus cards and other non-PCI cards, AFAIK. STefan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 04:54:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA02698 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:54:24 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA02692 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:54:19 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id HAA26220; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:51:37 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505021151.HAA26220@hda.com> Subject: opening dead devices and slices To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 07:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, joerg@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505020515.PAA21076@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at May 2, 95 03:15:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2448 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: > > >The problem in question is: > > >sd1(bt0:1:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:31,0 Medium format corrupted field replaceable unit: 31 > >, retries:4 > >... > >sd1: error reading primary partition table reading fsbn 0 (sd1 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) > > > >...a chicken-and-egg problem. How to format a disk that is not > >accessible since its not formatted properly? > > There will have to be no such thing as an error in xdopen(whole_disk_dev) > (again :-(). There will have to be verbose error messages instead :-). > > Why don't we have O_IOCTLONLY or O_NOACCESS access modes? Because of permissions issues? I like having the ability to protect the ioctl-only devices using the usual permissions. Plus I've never heard of O_IOCTLONLY mode :). Joerg's suggestion for O_NONBLOCK is reasonable if you read the SCSI spec: "If O_NONBLOCK is set: The open() shall return without waiting for the device to be ready or available. Subsequent behavior of the device is device-specific". I've made this change locally in scsiconf.h and want to commit it; is there anyway we can make it play with slices? /* Device number fields: * * NON-FIXED SCSI devices: * * FC?? ???? ???? ???? MMMMMMMM mmmmmmmm * * F: Fixed device (nexus in number): must be 0. * C: Control device; only user mode ioctl is supported. * ?: Don't know; those bits didn't use to exist, currently always 0. * M: Major device number. * m: Old style minor device number. * * FIXED SCSI devices: * * XXX Conflicts with the slice code. Maybe the slice code can be * changed to respect the F bit? * * FC?? ?BBB TTTT ?LLL MMMMMMMM mmmmmmmm * * F: Fixed device (nexus in number); must be 1. * C: Control device; only user mode ioctl is supported. * B: SCSI bus * T: SCSI target ID * L: Logical unit * M: Major device number * m: Old style minor device number. */ #define SCSI_FIXED(DEV) (((DEV) & 0x80000000) >> 31) #define SCSI_CONTROL(DEV) (((DEV) & 0x40000000) >> 30) #define SCSI_BUS(DEV) (((DEV) & 0x07000000) >> 24) #define SCSI_ID(DEV) (((DEV) & 0x00F00000) >> 20) #define SCSI_LUN(DEV) (((DEV) & 0x00070000) >> 16) #define SCSI_MKFIXED(B, T, L) ( \ ((B) << 24) | \ ((T) << 20) | \ ((L) << 16) | \ ( 1 << 31) ) -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 04:55:29 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA02727 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:55:29 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA02717 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:55:21 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA07119; Tue, 2 May 1995 04:55:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 04:55:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021155.EAA07119@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org, rich@FreeBSD.org Subject: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is on -current supped yesterday (4/1/95). Probably xterm's problem though. The kernel is configured to have 32 pty's, and rlogin can find the 17th and so on fine. Satoshi ------- asami(p2) silvia 202 04:37:10 /a/home/alcatraz/asami >> w 4:52AM up 22:14, 17 users, load averages: 2.48, 2.50, 2.40 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT asami v0 - Mon06AM 11:06 -bash (bash) asami p0 :0.0 5:45PM 15 bash asami p1 :0.0 5:45PM 15 rlogin thud.cdrom.com asami p2 :0.0 5:45PM 15 w asami p3 :0.0 5:45PM 15 top-3.2 60 asami p4 :0.0 5:45PM 15 rlogin thud.cdrom.com asami p5 :0.0 5:45PM 15 rlogin thud.cdrom.com asami p6 :0.0 5:45PM 15 bash asami p7 :0.0 5:46PM 15 rlogin forgery asami p8 :0.0 5:46PM 15 rlogin thud.cdrom.com asami p9 :0.0 5:46PM 15 rlogin thud.cdrom.com asami pa :0.0 5:45PM 15 rlogin freefall.cdrom.com asami pb :0.0 5:45PM 15 rlogin localhost -l root asami pc :0.0 5:45PM 15 tail -100 -f /var/log/messages root pd localhost 5:46PM 15 -bash (bash) asami pe :0.0 5:46PM 15 rlogin freefall.cdrom.com asami pf :0.0 5:47PM 15 bash asami(p2) silvia 203 04:52:07 /a/home/alcatraz/asami >> xterm xterm: no available ptys asami(p2) silvia 204 04:52:11 /a/home/alcatraz/asami >> ls -l /dev/ttyp? 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 0 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp0 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 1 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp1 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 2 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp2 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 3 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp3 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 4 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp4 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 5 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp5 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 6 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp6 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 7 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp7 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 8 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp8 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 9 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyp9 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 10 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypa 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 11 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypb 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 12 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypc 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 13 May 2 04:37 /dev/ttypd 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 14 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttype 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 15 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypf 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 16 May 2 04:37 /dev/ttypg 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 17 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyph 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 18 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypi 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 19 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypj 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 20 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypk 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 21 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypl 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 22 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypm 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 23 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypn 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 24 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypo 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 25 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypp 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 26 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypq 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 27 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypr 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 28 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttyps 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 29 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypt 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 30 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypu 0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 31 May 2 04:36 /dev/ttypv From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 05:27:33 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA03142 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 05:27:33 -0700 Received: from dkuug.dk (dkuug.dk [193.88.44.89]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA03135 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 05:27:18 -0700 Received: from kmd-ac.dk by dkuug.dk with UUCP id AA28454 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freefall.cdrom.com!freebsd-current); Tue, 2 May 1995 14:13:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk> Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 14:11:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "Soeren Schmidt" Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505020742.JAA10873@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at May 2, 95 09:42:18 am From: sos@FreeBSD.org (Soren Schmidt) Reply-To: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 843 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Christoph P. Kukulies who wrote: > > Though reported on past Friday and supposedly been fixed by ache (?) > I still don't see the fix in my supped tree. ibcs2 still fails to compile > due to that #define _POSIX_SAVED_IDS in sys/unistd.h. The > code in /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix relies on that macro being > defined to something evaluable. I wonder if it's time to blame sup > or what is the cause? Hmm, I'm going to put in some new stuff RSN, but currently I'm fighting a locking problem in the filesystem code after the latest changes Dyson put into the ufs code... My plan was to have it into 2.0.5 but now I'm not sure that I can hold that plan :-( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@kmd-ac.dk) FreeBSD Core Team .. From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 05:44:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA03443 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 05:44:13 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA03436 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 05:44:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA23054; Tue, 2 May 1995 05:42:32 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: sos@FreeBSD.org cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies), freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 14:11:24 -0000." <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 05:42:31 -0700 Message-ID: <23052.799418551@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hmm, I'm going to put in some new stuff RSN, but currently I'm fighting > a locking problem in the filesystem code after the latest changes Dyson > put into the ufs code... > My plan was to have it into 2.0.5 but now I'm not sure that I can hold > that plan :-( I've fixed this by disabling the functionality right now. I can't afford to have the tree broken since it's really screwing up my test builds for the upcoming 2.0.5 release candidate. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:09:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04250 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:09:39 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04231 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:09:21 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA07293; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:09:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:09:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021309.GAA07293@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: lots of bogus packages on wcarchive From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed that many packages shrunk dramatically during the last build. It seems like the older ones have lots of duplicates inside. For example: ===== asami(p8) freefall 67 06:02:04 /net/thud/e/ports/old.packages/.packages >> tar tvzf ytalk-3.0.2.tgz -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 69 Apr 22 12:06 1995 +COMMENT -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 122 Apr 22 12:06 1995 +CONTENTS -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 260 Apr 22 12:06 1995 +DESC drwxrwxrwx root/ports 0 Apr 22 12:06 1995 bin/ -rwxr-xr-x root/ports 61440 Apr 22 12:06 1995 bin/ytalk -rwxr-xr-x root/ports 61440 Apr 22 12:06 1995 bin/ytalk drwxrwxrwx root/ports 0 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/ drwxrwxrwx root/ports 0 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/man1/ -rw-r--r-- root/ports 5001 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/man1/ytalk.1.gz drwxrwxrwx root/ports 0 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/man1/ -rw-r--r-- root/ports 5001 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/man1/ytalk.1.gz -rw-r--r-- root/ports 5001 Apr 22 12:06 1995 man/man1/ytalk.1.gz ===== This is why emacs and its friends are 30MBish. This doesn't seem to be happening to the newer (i.e., built in the last couple of days) packages. I don't know where the bug was (kernel, tar, pkg_create), but I thought I'd warn everybody on the bleeding edge. Sorry for the wide distribution. I'm now running a rm -rf on wcarchive. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:13:30 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04402 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:13:30 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04390 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:13:18 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA01041; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:03:47 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505021303.GAA01041@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails To: sos@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk> from "Soren Schmidt" at May 2, 95 02:11:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1430 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In reply to Christoph P. Kukulies who wrote: > > > > Though reported on past Friday and supposedly been fixed by ache (?) > > I still don't see the fix in my supped tree. ibcs2 still fails to compile > > due to that #define _POSIX_SAVED_IDS in sys/unistd.h. The > > code in /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix relies on that macro being > > defined to something evaluable. I wonder if it's time to blame sup > > or what is the cause? > > Hmm, I'm going to put in some new stuff RSN, but currently I'm fighting > a locking problem in the filesystem code after the latest changes Dyson > put into the ufs code... > My plan was to have it into 2.0.5 but now I'm not sure that I can hold > that plan :-( I think folks have really missed the boat if they where thinking of getting *anything* into 2.0.X after 4/28/1995: The following provisional schedule for 2.0.5 (now perhaps 2.0.6 due to the fact that the pcvt people jumped too quickly on the last cancelled 2.0.5 release :-( ) is proposed: April 17th: Begin CODE 'FREEZE' on NEW features on a branch copy of 2.0-950412-SNAP. April 21: SNAPSHOT for testing. April 24th: 2.0.5 CDROM mastered. Yes, it slipped, but May 2 is a little late to be thinking you have a chance :-(. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:19:14 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04611 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:19:14 -0700 Received: from dkuug.dk (dkuug.dk [193.88.44.89]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA04579 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:17:59 -0700 Received: from kmd-ac.dk by dkuug.dk with UUCP id AA00466 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freefall.cdrom.com!freebsd-current); Tue, 2 May 1995 15:17:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199505021317.AA00466@dkuug.dk> Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:15:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "Soeren Schmidt" Cc: sos@FreeBSD.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <23052.799418551@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at May 2, 95 05:42:31 am From: sos@FreeBSD.org (Soren Schmidt) Reply-To: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 843 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote: > > > Hmm, I'm going to put in some new stuff RSN, but currently I'm fighting > > a locking problem in the filesystem code after the latest changes Dyson > > put into the ufs code... > > My plan was to have it into 2.0.5 but now I'm not sure that I can hold > > that plan :-( > > I've fixed this by disabling the functionality right now. I can't afford > to have the tree broken since it's really screwing up my test builds for > the upcoming 2.0.5 release candidate. Ok, that's fine by me, the iBCS2 stuff currently doesn't work anyhow (see above problem) I have a fix, but its ugly, ill concieved and it probably breaks something else... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@kmd-ac.dk) FreeBSD Core Team .. From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:26:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04781 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:26:15 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04774 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:26:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA06516; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:25:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: sos@FreeBSD.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 06:03:46 PDT." <199505021303.GAA01041@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 06:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: <6504.799421137@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I think folks have really missed the boat if they where thinking of > getting *anything* into 2.0.X after 4/28/1995: > The following provisional schedule for 2.0.5 (now perhaps 2.0.6 due to > the fact that the pcvt people jumped too quickly on the last cancelled > 2.0.5 release :-( ) is proposed: It's 2.0.5 - I can't change it now, the artwork is already done. Due to delays in getting sysinstall finished, any bug fixes applied in the next 2 days will probably make it, but major functionality nope. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:30:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA04903 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:30:15 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA04892 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:30:06 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA07345; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:30:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:30:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021330.GAA07345@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505021309.GAA07293@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: lots of bogus packages on wcarchive From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I noticed that many packages shrunk dramatically during the last * build. It seems like the older ones have lots of duplicates inside. Now that I think of it, I have an idea how this happened...Jordan? :p If he has an explanation, current users and thud-users need not worry. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:39:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA05175 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:39:18 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA05151 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:38:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA10650; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:38:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) cc: current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: lots of bogus packages on wcarchive In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 06:30:03 PDT." <199505021330.GAA07345@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 06:38:45 -0700 Message-ID: <10648.799421925@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The duplicate item problem was a transient bug in pkg_create; I fixed it in the second round. I'm surprised it even made it onto thud as it was only broken in the tree for about 2 hours before I fixed it. Jordan > * I noticed that many packages shrunk dramatically during the last > * build. It seems like the older ones have lots of duplicates inside. > > Now that I think of it, I have an idea how this happened...Jordan? :p > > If he has an explanation, current users and thud-users need not worry. > > Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:43:34 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA05330 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:43:34 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA05323 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:43:26 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA01194; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:39:51 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505021339.GAA01194@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Named in /etc/{rc,sysconfig} and named.restart To: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current) In-Reply-To: <199505021131.SAA10623@gw.itfs.nsk.su> from "Nickolay N. Dudorov" at May 2, 95 06:31:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2732 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >> /etc/sysconfig says that "for most hosts" > >> named should be started as > >> named -b /etc/namedb/named.boot > >> but scripts such as named.restart provided "for all hosts" > >> restarts named without any args (assuming /etc/named.boot). > >> > >> We'll either modify named sources to look at > >> /etc/namedb/named.boot or modify scripts (named.restart etc), > >> or upgarde to bind.4.9.3-BETA17 and use (modified) ndc.sh > >> for named control. > > > >Here is my current solution to this, it will be commited after > >you review it and tell me that it does just what you want it > >to do. > > Yes, it solves my problem. Great, thanks for testing it for me, I always like to have the original problem reporter check my fix just incase I screwed it up someplace along the road. > > > >It fixes the problem you pointed out, and a few others that > >I found along the way (like errors if no named has ever been > >started). It also will *not* start a named if /etc/sysconfig > >says to not start one, just like /etc/rc :-) > > I can imagine just one situation in wich this > may be not so suitable: > if/when I began to configure 'named' first time > in my life, write/edit my named.boot etc. run named manually, > discover some errors, correct them and try 'named.restart' ;-) > (Yes, I must change named flags in /etc/sysconfig before > starting experiments with named, but we (you?) MUST say > about that in some doc/FAQ ). How about right in the man page for named.restart: Index: named.restart.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/named/tools/named.restart/named.restart.8,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.2 named.restart.8 *** 1.2 1994/11/19 13:41:26 --- named.restart.8 1995/05/02 13:36:45 *************** *** 59,65 **** named.restart \- stop and restart the name server .SH DESCRIPTION This command sends a \s-1SIGKILL\s+1 to the running name server and then ! starts a new one. .SH BUGS Does not check to see if the name server is actually running, and could use a stale PID cache file which may result in the death of an unrelated --- 59,67 ---- named.restart \- stop and restart the name server .SH DESCRIPTION This command sends a \s-1SIGKILL\s+1 to the running name server and then ! starts a new one if ! .IR /etc/sysconfig ! states that one should be running on this system. .SH BUGS Does not check to see if the name server is actually running, and could use a stale PID cache file which may result in the death of an unrelated -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 06:49:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA05480 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:49:27 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA05459 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 06:49:13 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA18937 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Tue, 2 May 1995 15:57:43 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 2 May 95 15:57:42 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA00678; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:25:09 +0400 To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" , sos@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com References: <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk> In-Reply-To: <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk>; from Soeren Schmidt at Tue, 2 May 1995 14:11:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:25:08 +0400 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.32 FreeBSD] From: "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails Lines: 26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1215 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505021213.AA28454@dkuug.dk> Soeren Schmidt writes: >In reply to Christoph P. Kukulies who wrote: >> >> Though reported on past Friday and supposedly been fixed by ache (?) >> I still don't see the fix in my supped tree. ibcs2 still fails to compile >> due to that #define _POSIX_SAVED_IDS in sys/unistd.h. The >> code in /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_xenix relies on that macro being >> defined to something evaluable. I wonder if it's time to blame sup >> or what is the cause? >Hmm, I'm going to put in some new stuff RSN, but currently I'm fighting >a locking problem in the filesystem code after the latest changes Dyson >put into the ufs code... >My plan was to have it into 2.0.5 but now I'm not sure that I can hold >that plan :-( Soren, I just commit right fix of this stuff (ibcs2_xenix.c/ibcs2_isc.c). There is yet one problem related to return(0) instead of return(-1) per POSIX. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 07:39:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA07068 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:39:26 -0700 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA07062 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:39:19 -0700 Received: by brasil.moneng.mei.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13273; Tue, 2 May 95 09:38:12 CDT From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <9505021438.AA13273@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: 2.0.5-R? Or -A? (was: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:38:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <6504.799421137@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at May 2, 95 06:25:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1020 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I think folks have really missed the boat if they where thinking of > > getting *anything* into 2.0.X after 4/28/1995: > > The following provisional schedule for 2.0.5 (now perhaps 2.0.6 due to > > the fact that the pcvt people jumped too quickly on the last cancelled > > 2.0.5 release :-( ) is proposed: > > It's 2.0.5 - I can't change it now, the artwork is already done. > > Due to delays in getting sysinstall finished, any bug fixes applied in > the next 2 days will probably make it, but major functionality nope. Ok ok I'm 500 messages behind. 2.0.5-R is going out the door?? I had been scanning subject lines and hadn't seen this. Or are we discussing 2.0.5-A? (all I want to know is if Jordan committed the new version of startslip I sent him a month ago - it doesn't look like it) :-( ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 10:35:40 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA10761 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:35:40 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA10742 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:34:41 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01826; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:33:07 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA03732; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:33:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199505021733.TAA03732@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) cc: current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mv? Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 19:33:05 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> mv work .. > mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument Yeah. I've seen it too. I thought it was just me... M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 11:41:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA12015 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:41:24 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA12009 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:41:22 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip53.nmt.edu [129.138.5.153]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA01991 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:41:17 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id MAA04105 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:41:12 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505021841.MAA04105@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: max filesystem size in -current? To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:41:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 166 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I remember discussion about this a while back but can't find my mail on it... So, what was the absolute max filesystem size? (I think I remembered 4 gigs?) Scott From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 11:57:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA12651 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:57:39 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA12643 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:57:29 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA28639; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:57:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA00251; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:57:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021857.LAA00251@corbin.Root.COM> To: Mark Murray cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu, current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mv? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 95 19:33:05 +0200." <199505021733.TAA03732@grumble.grondar.za> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 11:57:03 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> mv work .. >> mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument > >Yeah. I've seen it too. I thought it was just me... It's not valid to move a directory into itself. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 12:03:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12788 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:03:37 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12782 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:03:31 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA28677; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:03:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00281; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:03:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021903.MAA00281@corbin.Root.COM> To: Scott Mace cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: max filesystem size in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 95 12:41:11 MDT." <199505021841.MAA04105@metal.ops.neosoft.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 12:03:25 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I remember discussion about this a while back but can't find my mail on it... > >So, what was the absolute max filesystem size? (I think I remembered 4 gigs?) It is currently 1 Terabyte. The maximum file size, however, is 2GB. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 12:05:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12843 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:05:32 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12835 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:05:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24186; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:04:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.0.5-R? Or -A? (was: Re: ibcs2 lkm compile still fails) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 09:38:11 CDT." <9505021438.AA13273@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 12:04:10 -0700 Message-ID: <24184.799441450@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ok ok I'm 500 messages behind. 2.0.5-R is going out the door?? I had been > scanning subject lines and hadn't seen this. Yes, in a sense. I'm doing the "release candidate" in a day or so and then we'll slap it around for awhile and release what comes out of THAT. > (all I want to know is if Jordan committed the new version of startslip I > sent him a month ago - it doesn't look like it) :-( My face is red.. Sorry, I'll go scanning through my inbox and try and find it.. :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 12:39:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA13797 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:39:39 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA13791 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:39:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA10319; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:39:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Scott Mace cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: max filesystem size in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 12:41:11 MDT." <199505021841.MAA04105@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 12:39:38 -0700 Message-ID: <10317.799443578@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I remember discussion about this a while back but can't find my mail on it... > > So, what was the absolute max filesystem size? (I think I remembered 4 gigs? It's a lot bigger than that. I believe 2^64 in fact. I certainly have an 8.6GB partition doing news just fine on one of the machines here.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 12:56:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA14224 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:56:02 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA14218 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:55:58 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id MAA08897 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:52:58 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA01979; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:54:07 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA04353; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:54:07 +0200 Message-Id: <199505021954.VAA04353@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: davidg@Root.COM cc: Mark Murray , asami@cs.berkeley.edu, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mv? Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 21:54:07 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Yeah. I've seen it too. I thought it was just me... > > It's not valid to move a directory into itself. Tsk. Of course. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 13:17:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA14578 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:17:11 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA14558 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:17:04 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA11807; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:16:43 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 2 May 95 15:16 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 2 May 95 15:16 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: Problem booting SNAP floppy on PCI/I-486SP3G To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:16:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Fredriksen" Cc: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com, faulkner@devnull.mpd.tandem.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504251810.LAA10369@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Apr 25, 95 11:10:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 805 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rodney W. Grimes writes: > > : (ncr0:5:0): "IBM 0661467 G l" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > > : sd3(ncr0:5:0): Direct-Access > > : sd3(ncr0:5:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > > : sd3 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry > > Ahhh.. and unplug this guy too, it seems to be a SCSI 2 device that > does not understand a mode sense to page 4?? Very strange! Well, it is optional, and IBM believes that there is no need for any OS software to know the geometry. Also Boyd, is this drive in the middle of the chain? The drive doesn't have terminators... > > > : 382MB (782600 512 byte sectors) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Fredriksen fredriks@mcs.com (home) lars@fredriks.pr.mcs.net (home-home) fredriks@asiago.cs.wisc.edu From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 13:50:17 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA15367 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:50:17 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA15355 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 13:50:01 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id QAA00511; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:48:19 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505022048.QAA00511@hda.com> Subject: Known Bugs in 2.0.5 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:48:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 656 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to submit the BUG I have on my to-do list (the "can't fixed-configure SCSI devices on a multiple bus host adapter") that I'm not planning on fixing before 2.0.5 hits the street and that I don't think is in the data base yet. This is just a reminder to anyone else who can think of something similar to open a bug, and a reminder to the powers that be (I guess that is YOU, Jordan) to check the bug data base for inclusion in a KNOWN BUGS file that goes on the CD-ROM. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 14:05:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA15718 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:05:27 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.BARRNET.NET [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA15702 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:05:22 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id OAA09479; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:02:15 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15495; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:03:21 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA25417; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:03:10 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA15350; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:44:31 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505022044.WAA15350@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 22:44:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, rich@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505021155.EAA07119@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=" at May 2, 95 04:55:34 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 498 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?= wrote: > > This is on -current supped yesterday (4/1/95). Probably xterm's > problem though. The kernel is configured to have 32 pty's, and rlogin > can find the 17th and so on fine. > >> xterm > xterm: no available ptys Uset tty[qrs][0-9a-f] instead. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 14:43:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA16896 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:43:18 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA16889 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:43:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA10823; Tue, 2 May 1995 14:42:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Peter Dufault cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Known Bugs in 2.0.5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 16:48:18 EDT." <199505022048.QAA00511@hda.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <10820.799450966.1@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 14:42:47 -0700 Message-ID: <10821.799450967@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is just a reminder to anyone else who can think of something > similar to open a bug, and a reminder to the powers that be (I > guess that is YOU, Jordan) to check the bug data base for inclusion > in a KNOWN BUGS file that goes on the CD-ROM. We will indeed. I've also asked Gary P. to make a pass through the bugs database and close anything that's obviously closable, but I would like to encourage everyone else on the bug list to take a few minutes to do the same. The last open bug list was just posted a couple of days ago. At release time, anything still in the list will be assumed to be "open" and will be put onto the CDROM. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 15:13:59 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA17940 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:13:59 -0700 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA17883 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:13:12 -0700 Received: by brasil.moneng.mei.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14225; Tue, 2 May 95 17:11:55 CDT From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <9505022211.AA14225@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users To: nc@ai.net (Network Coordinator) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:11:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Network Coordinator" at Apr 30, 95 05:28:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 582 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > Once I know the rewritten driver is happy, I'll be adding support for the > > > Crynwr/Linux PLIP protocol format. > > CooL! > > When you have that support going, I can test it for you. I have a linux > box sitting right next to a freebsd box [both run EPP parallel ports] and > move data really well with laplink [under DOS] normally. Does anybody have a clue how to manufacture the needed cable? I would like to play with this, but do not want to spend money on a cable that I can build from parts in stock.. ... JG From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 15:25:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA18724 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:25:55 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA18697 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:25:40 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA09492; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:24:10 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199505022224.PAA09492@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nc@ai.net, current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505022211.AA14225@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at May 2, 95 05:11:54 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 718 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anybody have a clue how to manufacture the needed cable? I would like > to play with this, but do not want to spend money on a cable that I can > build from parts in stock.. Look in src/sys/i386/isa/lpt.c it has a description. It's a standard Laplink cable. I actually needed a serial null modem cable, and chanced on a package at EggHead for $8, which had a parallel laplink in the same package. Then I went and made the tcp/ip on parallel stuff since I hated having a good high-quality cable and nothing to do with it... -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant' From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 16:07:22 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA19852 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:07:22 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA19832 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:07:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11210; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:05:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: nc@ai.net (Network Coordinator), current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 17:11:54 CDT." <9505022211.AA14225@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 16:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: <11208.799455907@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anybody have a clue how to manufacture the needed cable? I would like > to play with this, but do not want to spend money on a cable that I can > build from parts in stock.. Do yourself a favor and go buy a "laplink cable" at the local store. They're $10 (that's what mine cost at Frys, anyway) and it's a LOT less headache than making your own.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 16:25:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA20243 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:25:13 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA20236 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:25:02 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA08164; Tue, 2 May 1995 16:24:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:24:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199505022324.QAA08164@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: davidg@Root.COM CC: mark@grondar.za, current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505021857.LAA00251@corbin.Root.COM> (message from David Greenman on Tue, 02 May 1995 11:57:03 -0700) Subject: Re: mv? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * >> >> mv work .. * >> mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument * > * >Yeah. I've seen it too. I thought it was just me... * * It's not valid to move a directory into itself. I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was trying to move a directory "work" into the parent directory. So, if we are in "foo/bar", "foo/bar/work" is going to be "foo/work". By the way, the errors were on thud's local disk, from thud. I saw it both as root or as myself. Sometimes one of them worked; sometimes both didn't. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:08:42 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21140 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:42 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA21134 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:27 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA29184; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA00305; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199505030008.RAA00305@corbin.Root.COM> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) cc: mark@grondar.za, current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mv? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 95 16:24:28 PDT." <199505022324.QAA08164@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 17:08:20 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * >> >> mv work .. > * >> mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument > * > > * >Yeah. I've seen it too. I thought it was just me... > * > * It's not valid to move a directory into itself. > >I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was trying to move a >directory "work" into the parent directory. So, if we are in >"foo/bar", "foo/bar/work" is going to be "foo/work". Sorry, I agree that it shouldn't fail - I was thinking "mv work ." when I said the above. I tried to reproduce the problem here and couldn't. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:08:57 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21155 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:57 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA21145 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:08:48 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip45.nmt.edu [129.138.5.145]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA04953 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:08:43 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id SAA06702 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 1995 18:08:39 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030008.SAA06702@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: bug: /usr/src/etc/crontab To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:08:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 159 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does crontab really support the "who" column in /usr/src/etc/crontab? I thought that functionality was removed with the release of cron that we have? Scott From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:25:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21514 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:25:26 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA21508 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:25:21 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA03443; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:22:27 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505030022.RAA03443@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: bug: /usr/src/etc/crontab To: smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com (Scott Mace) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030008.SAA06702@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 06:08:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 386 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Does crontab really support the "who" column in /usr/src/etc/crontab? > > I thought that functionality was removed with the release of cron > that we have? No, that functionality was added when we went with Vixie Cron 3.0. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:28:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21662 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:28:26 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA21656 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 17:28:21 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip45.nmt.edu [129.138.5.145]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA05000 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:28:17 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id SAA06883 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 1995 18:28:12 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030028.SAA06883@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: this is nice but... To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:28:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 346 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk in /etc/rc # snapshot any kernel -c changes back to disk echo 'recording kernel -c changes' /sbin/dset -q this is a good feature for newbies I think, but also I think its a security problem for systems that want to try and run in a secure env. I'm not saying take it out, but maybe put a comment explaining the implications of it. Scott From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 18:19:23 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA22512 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 18:19:23 -0700 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA22475 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 18:18:13 -0700 Received: by brasil.moneng.mei.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14628; Tue, 2 May 95 20:16:30 CDT From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <9505030116.AA14628@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: nc@ai.net, current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <11208.799455907@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at May 2, 95 04:05:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1640 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Does anybody have a clue how to manufacture the needed cable? I would like > > to play with this, but do not want to spend money on a cable that I can > > build from parts in stock.. > > Do yourself a favor and go buy a "laplink cable" at the local store. > They're $10 (that's what mine cost at Frys, anyway) and it's a LOT > less headache than making your own.. :-) Hi Jordan, That's silly. :-) Well, not for everyone... but I've been making cables since I was a teenager. I have all the connectors, hoods, cable, et al. I do not intend to pay $10 for something that I can _build_ easily for $10 less than that. :-) I prefer to save my cash for things that I cannot readily make: I buy components, modems, etc. I generally make my own cables (with the one exception of DB9-DB25's which Wal-Mart sells for $2.96, which is roughly equivalent to my cost, and then I don't have to spend time). Besides, usually when you need something strange: "A SCSI cable with Centronics on both ends and 6 IDC connectors at such-n-such separation" you end up doing it yourself anyways. (I have a nice "CAID" for news here - Cheap Array of Inexpensive 5 1/4" Disks"). (besides: if I go to a store it means I have to waste time to do so - maybe a half hour, or an hour, when I can make it in 10 minutes. :-) ) But for the everyday hacker, who isn't comfortable with a soldering iron, I might be inclined to agree with you. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 19:00:26 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA23479 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:00:26 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA23455 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:00:17 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA09479; Tue, 2 May 1995 18:59:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:59:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505030159.SAA09479@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de CC: current@FreeBSD.org, rich@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505022044.WAA15350@uriah.heep.sax.de> (message from J Wunsch on Tue, 2 May 1995 22:44:31 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * > problem though. The kernel is configured to have 32 pty's, and rlogin * > can find the 17th and so on fine. * > >> xterm * > xterm: no available ptys * * Uset tty[qrs][0-9a-f] instead. :-) Should have mentioned I did "sh MAKEDEV pty1" (which will make the ttyq* devices) and it doesn't work either. I'm not sure if this is because the kernel has only 32 pty's and all of them are taken by ttyp*'s. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 19:02:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA23589 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:02:55 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA23582 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 19:02:43 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip54.nmt.edu [129.138.5.154]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA05333; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:02:35 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id UAA00325; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:02:31 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030202.UAA00325@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Re: bug: /usr/src/etc/crontab To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030022.RAA03443@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at May 2, 95 05:22:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 839 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > Does crontab really support the "who" column in /usr/src/etc/crontab? > > > > I thought that functionality was removed with the release of cron > > that we have? > > No, that functionality was added when we went with Vixie Cron 3.0. > ok, then why does this happen: /etc/crontab entry: 0 * * * * root /bin/ls when it runs I get: Subject: Cron root /bin/ls X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Status: OR root: not found Subject: Cron /bin/ls X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Status: OR .cshrc .hushlogin .login From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:06:43 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA25687 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:06:43 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA25673 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:06:30 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA09693; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:06:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:06:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199505030306.UAA09693@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: davidg@Root.COM CC: mark@grondar.za, current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505030008.RAA00305@corbin.Root.COM> (message from David Greenman on Tue, 02 May 1995 17:08:20 -0700) Subject: Re: mv? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * said the above. I tried to reproduce the problem here and couldn't. Well, try this then (on thud) asami(p0) thud 24 20:02:35 /e/work/asami/ports/net/wwwish >> lg total 8 1 drwxr-xr-x 7 asami ports 512 May 2 03:37 ./ 1 drwxrwxr-x 43 asami ports 1024 May 1 07:12 ../ 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 asami ports 512 May 2 03:37 CVS/ 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 asami ports 462 May 2 03:38 Makefile 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 asami ports 512 Apr 29 22:59 files/ 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 asami ports 512 Apr 29 22:59 patches/ 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 asami ports 512 Apr 29 22:59 pkg/ 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root ports 512 May 2 03:36 work/ asami(p0) thud 25 20:02:36 /e/work/asami/ports/net/wwwish >> mv work .. mv: rename work to ../work: Permission denied and as root: # 223 20:02:56 /e/work/asami/ports/net/wwwish # ## mv work .. mv: rename work to ../work: Invalid argument I chown'd work to belong to me (shouldn't matter, right?) and it still fails for both root and me. Maybe I should reboot thud (it's been running for a week, maybe the kernel is too old), but without Gary or Jordan around to hit the reset button, I can't afford to lose thud now. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:10:51 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA25807 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:10:51 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA25799 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:10:43 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA03658; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:07:56 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505030307.UAA03658@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: bug: /usr/src/etc/crontab To: smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com (Scott Mace) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030202.UAA00325@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 08:02:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1755 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > > > Does crontab really support the "who" column in /usr/src/etc/crontab? > > > > > > I thought that functionality was removed with the release of cron > > > that we have? > > > > No, that functionality was added when we went with Vixie Cron 3.0. > > > > ok, then why does this happen: > > /etc/crontab entry: > 0 * * * * root /bin/ls I don't know, either you have an out of date date cron, or something else strange. I cut and pasted the above and stuck it in my cron tab (well, okay, I changed the time so it would run right away and got this: I think we would have had lots of users complaining about /etc/weekly, /etc/daily and such that are run from /etc/crontab if this was a problem in any of the releases. Since we have not had this I will point my finger at something on your system, either a non-standard or old cron, or perhaps a symlink in /var/cron/tabs/root -> /etc/crontab or some such strange ness. >From daemon Tue May 2 20:02:00 1995 Received: (from root@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA03626 for root; Tue, 2 May 1995 20:02:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:02:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199505030302.UAA03626@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron /bin/ls X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Status: OR lastlog lpd-errs maillog maillog.0 maillog.1 maillog.2 messages messages.0 messages.1 messages.2 sendmail.st setuid.today wtmp -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 21:13:06 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA27882 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:13:06 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA27870 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:13:01 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip54.nmt.edu [129.138.5.154]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id XAA06033 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:12:54 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id WAA01404 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:12:49 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030412.WAA01404@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: problems with cron... To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 22:12:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 176 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone test to see if crontab -e works? I did a crontab -e * * * * * root /bin/ls and then: crontab -e and deleted it but it kept on running once a minute Scott From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 21:22:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA28335 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:22:11 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA28325 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:22:01 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA03841; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:19:14 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505030419.VAA03841@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: problems with cron... To: smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com (Scott Mace) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030412.WAA01404@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 10:12:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 717 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Can someone test to see if crontab -e works? > > I did a > > crontab -e > * * * * * root /bin/ls Now I know what your problem is, crontab -e when logged in as root edit's /var/cron/tabs/root. Files in /var/cron *DO NOT* take a user name field!! Only /etc/crontab does, and you use vi or any other editor to change it, not crontab -e!!!! > and then: > > crontab -e > > and deleted it > > but it kept on running once a minute CHeck that /var/cron/tabs/root is empty, rm it since you probably don't want one there anyway, kill and restart cron. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 21:25:28 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA28444 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:25:28 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA28436 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:25:24 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip54.nmt.edu [129.138.5.154]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id XAA06085; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:24:48 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id WAA01623; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:24:44 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030424.WAA01623@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Re: problems with cron... To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 22:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030419.VAA03841@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at May 2, 95 09:19:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 979 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk bingo... thats it... I've always done: crontab /etc/crontab to install the new crontab, and totally forgot that it actually parses /etc/crontab.... ok, I feel _REAL_ smart right now :-) Scott > > > > > > > Can someone test to see if crontab -e works? > > > > I did a > > > > crontab -e > > * * * * * root /bin/ls > > Now I know what your problem is, crontab -e when logged in as root > edit's /var/cron/tabs/root. Files in /var/cron *DO NOT* take a > user name field!! Only /etc/crontab does, and you use vi or any > other editor to change it, not crontab -e!!!! > > > and then: > > > > crontab -e > > > > and deleted it > > > > but it kept on running once a minute > > CHeck that /var/cron/tabs/root is empty, rm it since you probably > don't want one there anyway, kill and restart cron. > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 22:32:31 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA29939 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:32:31 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA29917 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:32:17 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA28197; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:28:41 +1000 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 15:28:41 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199505030528.PAA28197@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com Subject: Re: this is nice but... Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >in /etc/rc ># snapshot any kernel -c changes back to disk >echo 'recording kernel -c changes' >/sbin/dset -q >this is a good feature for newbies I think, but also I think its a >security problem for systems that want to try and run in a secure env. It shouldn't change anything unless the system was booted with -c AND something was changed. If someone can boot the system with -c then they can do as much damage as dset anyway. So there should be no problems except for bugs in dset. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 22:57:41 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA01274 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:57:41 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01254 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:57:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA12169; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:56:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Joe Greco cc: nc@ai.net, current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 1995 20:16:29 CDT." <9505030116.AA14628@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 22:56:01 -0700 Message-ID: <12167.799480561@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > But for the everyday hacker, who isn't comfortable with a soldering iron, I > might be inclined to agree with you. Well, just to set that particular record straight, I started this business as a tech, not a programmer, so I know one end of a soldering iron from another (the smell of rosin brings back memories :-). It's simply a matter of time and energy. I'm glad you have it to spare, but I sure don't.. :-) [And I'm generally in the vicinity of the local computer store every day so there's no additional time penalty involved in buying one]. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:02:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA01424 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:02:18 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA01418 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:02:15 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA12888; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:02:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:02:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199505030602.XAA12888@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org, rich@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505030159.SAA09479@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Should have mentioned I did "sh MAKEDEV pty1" (which will make the * ttyq* devices) and it doesn't work either. I'm not sure if this is * because the kernel has only 32 pty's and all of them are taken by * ttyp*'s. Just to follow up on my own post, the following patch to xterm fixed it: ===== --- ./ptyx.h.org Mon Aug 15 12:48:46 1994 +++ ./ptyx.h Tue May 2 22:54:12 1995 @@ -91,7 +91,11 @@ #ifdef hpux #define PTYCHAR2 "fedcba9876543210" #else /* !hpux */ +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ +#define PTYCHAR2 "0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv" +#else /* !__FreeBSD__ */ #define PTYCHAR2 "0123456789abcdef" +#endif /* !__FreeBSD__ */ #endif /* !hpux */ #endif /* !PTYCHAR2 */ ===== Rich, can you please give this back to the XFree86 people? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:16:08 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA01987 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:16:08 -0700 Received: from pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (root@pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA01981 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:16:05 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@glenn-slip54.nmt.edu [129.138.5.154]) by pluto.ops.NeoSoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id BAA06632; Wed, 3 May 1995 01:15:58 -0500 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id AAA02440; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:15:53 -0600 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199505030615.AAA02440@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Re: this is nice but... To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 00:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com In-Reply-To: <199505030528.PAA28197@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at May 3, 95 03:28:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 599 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk May we should make some sort of comment about -c/USERCONF? > > >in /etc/rc > > ># snapshot any kernel -c changes back to disk > >echo 'recording kernel -c changes' > >/sbin/dset -q > > > >this is a good feature for newbies I think, but also I think its a > >security problem for systems that want to try and run in a secure env. > > It shouldn't change anything unless the system was booted with -c AND > something was changed. If someone can boot the system with -c then > they can do as much damage as dset anyway. So there should be no > problems except for bugs in dset. > > Bruce > From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:27:28 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA02400 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:27:28 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA02389 ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:26:28 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA02924; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:25:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA07279; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:25:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199505030625.IAA07279@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: davidg@Root.COM cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=), mark@grondar.za, current@FreeBSD.org, thud-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mv? Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 08:25:21 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was trying to move a > >directory "work" into the parent directory. So, if we are in > >"foo/bar", "foo/bar/work" is going to be "foo/work". > > Sorry, I agree that it shouldn't fail - I was thinking "mv work ." when I > said the above. I tried to reproduce the problem here and couldn't. Hey? Then I made the same error. The other day I tried to 'mv less-290 ..' and mv screamed at me. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:33:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA02607 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:33:47 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA02580 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:33:19 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05011; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:33:11 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA28639 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:33:09 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA18318 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:20:16 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505030620.IAA18318@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: bug: /usr/src/etc/crontab To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:20:16 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199505030202.UAA00325@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 08:02:31 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 593 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Scott Mace wrote: > > > > Does crontab really support the "who" column in /usr/src/etc/crontab? > > No, that functionality was added when we went with Vixie Cron 3.0. > ok, then why does this happen: > > /etc/crontab entry: > 0 * * * * root /bin/ls > root: not found It's just reminding you kindly that a publically readable crontab file is considered a big security hole. Use /var/cron/tabs instead. :-] -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:42:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA03050 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:42:03 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA02993 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:41:16 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05309; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:40:38 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA28677 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:40:38 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA18663 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:39:50 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505030639.IAA18663@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: problems with cron... To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:39:50 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199505030424.WAA01623@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 10:24:43 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 429 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Scott Mace wrote: > > bingo... thats it... > I've always done: > > crontab /etc/crontab to install the new crontab, and totally forgot that > it actually parses /etc/crontab.... > ok, > I feel _REAL_ smart right now :-) Another indication why /etc/crontab should better go. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 23:50:18 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA03296 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:50:18 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA03288 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 23:50:10 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <01334-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:49:33 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA09865 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 16:53:23 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA00415 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:52:10 GMT Message-Id: <199505030652.GAA00415@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Known Bugs in 2.0.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 16:52:08 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You can also add the fact that the seagate driver does not work with the TMC885 controller when using a Wren6 drive. It appears as if the blind fast transfer code totally scrogs it. Stephen (running on a slow version of the 2.0 seagate.c code) I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 01:59:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA07934 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 01:59:04 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA07926 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 01:58:59 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id KAA24455 ; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:58:54 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id KAA04561 ; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:58:45 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505030858.KAA04561@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: problems with cron... To: smace@metal-mail.neosoft.com (Scott Mace) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:58:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030412.WAA01404@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at May 2, 95 10:12:49 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 337 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > crontab -e > * * * * * root /bin/ls For root, I don't think you should use crontab -e... /etc/crontab is the root crontab and having /var/cron/crontabs/root is only confusing cron... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 05:37:33 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA01179 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 05:37:33 -0700 Received: from id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu (id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu [128.249.248.67]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA01171 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 05:37:23 -0700 Received: by id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu (8.6.9/1.34) id HAA05414; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:36:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 07:36:57 -0500 From: rich@id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu (Rich Murphey) Message-Id: <199505031236.HAA05414@id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu CC: current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199505030602.XAA12888@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] Reply-to: rich@lamprey.utmb.edu Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk :From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) :Just to follow up on my own post, the following patch to xterm fixed :it: : :===== :--- ./ptyx.h.org Mon Aug 15 12:48:46 1994 :+++ ./ptyx.h Tue May 2 22:54:12 1995 :@@ -91,7 +91,11 @@ : #ifdef hpux : #define PTYCHAR2 "fedcba9876543210" : #else /* !hpux */ :+#ifdef __FreeBSD__ :+#define PTYCHAR2 "0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv" :+#else /* !__FreeBSD__ */ : #define PTYCHAR2 "0123456789abcdef" :+#endif /* !__FreeBSD__ */ : #endif /* !hpux */ : #endif /* !PTYCHAR2 */ : :===== : :Rich, can you please give this back to the XFree86 people? : :Satoshi Yep, done! Rich From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 08:01:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA00596 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:01:32 -0700 Received: from condor.sys.swt.edu (condor.sys.swt.edu [147.26.32.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA00585 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:01:28 -0700 Received: by condor.sys.swt.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/10Dec94-0221PM) id AA21528; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:02:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:02:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas S. Traylor" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: make world problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I encountered this problem while doing a 'make world' in /usr/src. cc -O2 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_TIMEZONE -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/myndbm.c -o myndbm.o In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/system.h:21, from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/cvs.h:79, from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/myndbm.c:16: /usr/include/sys/stat.h:108: warning: `S_IWRITE' redefined /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/config.h:210: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/myndbm.c:16: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/cvs.h:362: parse error before `RETSIGTYPE' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/cvs.h:362: parse error before `)' *** Error code 1 Stop. This occurred this morning. I am -current as of last night. vulture# uname -a FreeBSD vulture.sys.swt.edu BUILT-19950501 FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 23:47:36 1995 root@vulture.sys.swt.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/VULTURE i386 Let me know if you need more information. Tom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas S. Traylor Southwest Texas State University tst@swt.edu Computing Services MCS 263 601 University Drive (512) 245-2595 San Marcos, Texas 78666-4616 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 08:44:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA02061 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:44:03 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA02055 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:43:59 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id JAA11782; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:48:09 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:48:09 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505031548.JAA11782@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: "Thomas S. Traylor" "make world problem" (May 3, 10:02am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: "Thomas S. Traylor" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world problem Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I encountered this problem while doing a 'make world' in /usr/src. > > cc -O2 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_TIMEZONE -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/myndbm.c > -o myndbm.o > In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/system.h:21, > from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/cvs.h:79, > from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/myndbm.c:16: > /usr/include/sys/stat.h:108: warning: `S_IWRITE' redefined > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/lib/../cvs/config.h:210: warning: this is the > location of the previous definition ... This is a result of having out of date files. The file src/config.h shouldn't exist and should have been deleted by SUP/CTM. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 09:01:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA02686 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:01:47 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA02680 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:01:46 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14462(5)>; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:01:06 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <49859>; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:00:55 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: if_de: BPF problems, auto interface switching? Cc: fenner@parc.xerox.com Message-Id: <95May3.090055pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:00:45 PDT Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have experienced two problems with if_de.c: 1) The BPFILTER logic is a little warped; the existing code only lets multicasts through if you have a bpf listener. Here is a patch. *** if_de.c.orig Wed May 3 08:36:36 1995 --- if_de.c Wed May 3 08:37:47 1995 *************** *** 567,577 **** #if NBPFILTER > 0 if (sc->tulip_bpf != NULL) { bpf_tap(sc->tulip_bpf, mtod(m, caddr_t), total_len); ! if ((eh.ether_dhost[0] & 1) == 0 && !TULIP_ADDREQUAL(eh.ether_dhost, sc->tulip_ac.ac_enaddr)) - goto next; - } else if (!TULIP_ADDREQUAL(eh.ether_dhost, sc->tulip_ac.ac_enaddr) - && !TULIP_ADDRBRDCST(eh.ether_dhost)) { goto next; } #endif --- 567,575 ---- #if NBPFILTER > 0 if (sc->tulip_bpf != NULL) { bpf_tap(sc->tulip_bpf, mtod(m, caddr_t), total_len); ! if (sc->tulip_if.if_flags & IFF_PROMISC && ! (eh.ether_dhost[0] & 1) == 0 && !TULIP_ADDREQUAL(eh.ether_dhost, sc->tulip_ac.ac_enaddr)) goto next; } #endif 2) I sometimes get May 3 08:42:35 fenestro /kernel: de0: enabling 10baseT/UTP port I can't relate this happening to any real-world action (besides, of course, me losing my network connectivity, but there's some cause-effect relationship there =). If I "ifconfig de0 link2" it comes back, and says May 3 08:44:30 fenestro /kernel: de0: enabling Thinwire/AUI port I assume that if I ifconfig link2 at startup, it will stop trying to do autoswitching (I have yet to confirm this, of course =), but it might be good to know that autoswitching may not work perfectly. (My card is a Linksys "EtherPCI LAN card".) Bill From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 10:21:05 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06002 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:21:05 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA05996 ; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:21:03 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA13923; Wed, 3 May 95 11:14:30 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505031714.AA13923@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: xterm can't find ttyp[g-v] To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Date: Wed, 3 May 95 11:14:30 MDT Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, rich@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505030602.XAA12888@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=" at May 2, 95 11:02:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just to follow up on my own post, the following patch to xterm fixed > it: [ ... ] > Rich, can you please give this back to the XFree86 people? Is this wise, what with the devfs about to change the face of things in the pty area? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 10:21:36 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA06097 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:21:36 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA06040 ; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:21:22 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA13605; Wed, 3 May 95 11:10:49 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505031710.AA13605@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: looking for IP over printer port driver users To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 3 May 95 11:10:49 MDT Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, nc@ai.net, current@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <12167.799480561@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at May 2, 95 10:56:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, just to set that particular record straight, I started this > business as a tech, not a programmer, so I know one end of a soldering > iron from another (the smell of rosin brings back memories :-). How 'bout the smell of "burning hand"? }B-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 22:09:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA19044 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:09:15 -0700 Received: from gw.itfs.nsk.su (gw.itfs.nsk.su [193.124.36.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA19037 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:08:53 -0700 Received: (nnd@localhost) by gw.itfs.nsk.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA19405 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 May 1995 12:08:00 +0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 12:08:00 +0700 From: "Nickolay N. Dudorov" Message-Id: <199505040508.MAA19405@gw.itfs.nsk.su> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Sendmail version.c and version.m4 unconsistency Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've already write about nonconsistent state of sendmail sources in -current - all the sources are of version 8.6.11 and only cf/m4/version.m4 file was left at 8.6.9 level. Is there any reason for such state apart from necessity to do the corrections 'in a right way' ? Who is sendmail master (in FreeBSD) ? N.Dudorov From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 23:08:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA00394 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:08:55 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA00388 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:08:52 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA06363; Wed, 3 May 1995 23:05:34 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505040605.XAA06363@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Sendmail version.c and version.m4 unconsistency To: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 23:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505040508.MAA19405@gw.itfs.nsk.su> from "Nickolay N. Dudorov" at May 4, 95 12:08:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 886 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've already write about nonconsistent state > of sendmail sources in -current - all the sources are of > version 8.6.11 and only cf/m4/version.m4 file was left at > 8.6.9 level. > > Is there any reason for such state apart from > necessity to do the corrections 'in a right way' ? No, not really, but it is skipping around the ``right way'' that has lead to the sources being in the state that they are in. I have looked at the commitlogs enough to know now that things did not happen as they should and it is going to be painful to fix. > > Who is sendmail master (in FreeBSD) ? There is no one designated as the sendmail master. pst has done the last 2 updates of it as far as I can tell. > > N.Dudorov > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 01:28:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA01864 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:28:44 -0700 Received: from pelican.com (pelican.com [134.24.4.62]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA01858 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 01:28:34 -0700 Received: by pelican.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s6wGp-000K0iC; Thu, 4 May 95 01:28 WET DST Message-Id: From: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Subject: VLB VGA query To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 01:28:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1394 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In trying an install of the recent SNAP, I've run into a strange problem. System is an OPTI-based P90 with 3 VLB slots, 2 plain ISA (16bit) slots, and 4 PCI slots. I don't know the manufacturer. Has an award bios. VLB IDE controller, Genoa (Cirrus accelerated) VLB VGA, 2 Conner 1280mb IDE disks (which work fine and even configure and work in freebsd!!) The problem is that there is data/attribute confusion in the vga, but not under DOS at all. only_ under freebsd (but I haven't tried Windoze...) I could get through the install by knowing generally what was going on and hitting ^L a lot during the fdisk/disklabel steps. I presume that I need to fix some delay somewhere... Does anyone have a pointer to what? I've tried all the reasonable combinations of vlb and isa bus speed and wait state jumpers (this one isn't soft-config'd for these speeds) with no difference at all. I've left it at 8.33 mhz isa and '<=33' vlb with no vlb wait states (as the board came). We don't need the vlb performance (this will be a server anyhow and not run the X server) so will be substituting a cheap plain ISA vga card when we get it, just to save the vlb one for someone that needs it. I assume this will help, but don't know. However, has anyone seen this or something like it? Are there known limitations of this chip set? I could get chip numbers and date codes if needed... -- Pete From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 04:21:52 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA06776 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 04:21:52 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA06766 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 04:21:44 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA06712; Thu, 4 May 1995 04:21:33 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505041121.EAA06712@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: VLB VGA query To: pete@pelican.com (Pete Carah) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 04:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Pete Carah" at May 4, 95 01:28:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1988 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In trying an install of the recent SNAP, I've run into a strange > problem. > > System is an OPTI-based P90 with 3 VLB slots, 2 plain ISA (16bit) > slots, and 4 PCI slots. I don't know the manufacturer. Has an award > bios. > > VLB IDE controller, Genoa (Cirrus accelerated) VLB VGA, 2 Conner 1280mb > IDE disks (which work fine and even configure and work in freebsd!!) > > The problem is that there is data/attribute confusion in the vga, but > not under DOS at all. only_ under freebsd (but I haven't tried Windoze...) > I could get through the install by knowing generally what was going on > and hitting ^L a lot during the fdisk/disklabel steps. I presume that > I need to fix some delay somewhere... Does anyone have a pointer to > what? > > I've tried all the reasonable combinations of vlb and isa bus speed and > wait state jumpers (this one isn't soft-config'd for these speeds) with > no difference at all. I've left it at 8.33 mhz isa and '<=33' vlb with > no vlb wait states (as the board came). > > We don't need the vlb performance (this will be a server anyhow and > not run the X server) so will be substituting a cheap plain ISA vga card > when we get it, just to save the vlb one for someone that needs it. I > assume this will help, but don't know. > > However, has anyone seen this or something like it? > Are there known limitations of this chip set? I could get chip numbers > and date codes if needed... Well, try this, it fixed it for one setup I had here that had this problem in sys/i386/isa/syscons.c at about line 67 change: /* this may break on older VGA's but is usefull on real 32 bit systems */ #define bcopyw bcopy to #define bcopyw bcopyw Seems some VLB boards don't like you to use 32 bit memory references to the video memory :-(. Let me know if that fixes your problem. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 04:27:05 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA06972 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 04:27:05 -0700 Received: from cyclops.home.com (xtwa3.ess.harris.com [130.41.26.162]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA06962 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 04:26:54 -0700 Received: (from jleppek@localhost) by cyclops.home.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA25117; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:31:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:31:18 -0400 From: User Jleppek Message-Id: <199505041131.HAA25117@cyclops.home.com> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: build world failed Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk with a Thu May 4 sup make -DNOPROFILE world stops at ===> usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio yacc -d /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/vgaio.y yacc: 2 shift/reduce conflicts. cc -O -m486 -pipe -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/obj -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio -g -c y.tab.c -o vgaio.o /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h: In function `getreg': /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h: In function `setreg': /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' /usr/include/machine/cpufunc.h:203: impossible register constraint in `asm' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 looks like when an outb is being done.... Jim From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 06:39:40 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA10337 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 06:39:40 -0700 Received: from gw.itfs.nsk.su (gw.itfs.nsk.su [193.124.36.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA10329 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 06:39:34 -0700 Received: (nnd@localhost) by gw.itfs.nsk.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA21569 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:39:09 +0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:39:09 +0700 From: "Nickolay N. Dudorov" Message-Id: <199505041339.UAA21569@gw.itfs.nsk.su> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Non-USA secure/DES distribution Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any possibility to make non-USA secure (or will it be DES?) distribution for 2.0.5 ? I mean binary and sources which can be ftp'ed from some place outside USA and installed along with other parts of 2.0.5 ? N.Dudorov From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 07:44:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA11663 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:44:19 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA11657 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:44:07 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA00611; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:22:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:22:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199505041422.HAA00611@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: login doesn't update utmp for ttyp[g-v] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems like something in the system isn't handling the upper half of ttyp's right, as when I get past the "traditional" ttypf, the logins don't get recorded in utmp: ======= bash$ tty /dev/ttyph bash$ w 4:09AM up 1 min, 17 users, load averages: 2.08, 0.57, 0.21 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT asami v0 - 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p0 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p1 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p2 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p3 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p4 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p5 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p6 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p7 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p8 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami p9 localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami pa localhost 4:08AM - rlogin localhost asami pb localhost 4:09AM - rlogin localhost asami pc localhost 4:09AM - rlogin localhost asami pd localhost 4:09AM - rlogin localhost asami pe localhost 4:09AM - rlogin localhost asami pf localhost 4:09AM - script bash$ ======= This was on a fresh reboot of yesterday's current. Also, lastlog is updated on login but not on logout, as in: ======= asami ttyph localhost Thu May 4 04:09 - shutdown (03:03) asami ttypf localhost Thu May 4 04:09 - 04:09 (00:00) asami ttype localhost Thu May 4 04:09 - 04:09 (00:00) asami ttypd localhost Thu May 4 04:09 - 04:09 (00:00) ======= (I sure as hell logged out from ttyph before ttypf. ;) Also, the wtmp entry is screwed up so I am logged out even when I'm still logged in: ======= bash$ tty /dev/ttypg bash$ finger asami Login: asami Name: Satoshi Asami Directory: /usr/home/alcatraz/asami Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash Office: 477 Soda, (510)642-1845 Home Phone: (510)524-2064 On since Thu May 4 07:13 (PDT) on ttyv0, idle 0:05 (messages off) On since Thu May 4 07:14 (PDT) on ttyp0, idle 0:05, from :0.0 : On since Thu May 4 07:14 (PDT) on ttypd, idle 0:04, from :0.0 On since Thu May 4 07:19 (PDT) on ttypf from :0.0 Last login Thu May 4 07:19 (PDT) on ttypg from localhost : ======= Note that the ttypg that I've supposedly logged out is where I'm fingering from! ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 08:06:31 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA12426 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:06:31 -0700 Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA12412 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:05:49 -0700 Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA03059; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:03:03 +0200 From: John Hay Message-Id: <199505041503.RAA03059@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Non-USA secure/DES distribution To: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:03:02 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505041339.UAA21569@gw.itfs.nsk.su> from "Nickolay N. Dudorov" at May 4, 95 08:39:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 409 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is there any possibility to make non-USA > secure (or will it be DES?) distribution for 2.0.5 ? > I mean binary and sources which can be ftp'ed from > some place outside USA and installed along with other > parts of 2.0.5 ? > > N.Dudorov > The source should already be available on: skeleton.mikom.csir.co.za I'm not sure if Mark Murray will do a binary dist. -- John Hay -- jhay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 08:16:50 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA12741 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:16:50 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA12721 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:16:43 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id RAA18965 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:16:34 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id RAA12549 ; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:15:03 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505041515.RAA12549@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: build world failed To: jleppek@harris.com (User Jleppek) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:15:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505041131.HAA25117@cyclops.home.com> from "User Jleppek" at May 4, 95 07:31:18 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 281 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > cc -O -m486 -pipe -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/obj -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio -g -c y.tab.c -o vgaio.o -O2 will succeed. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia BUILT-19950501 #0: Mon May 1 00:14:02 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 08:55:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA14031 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:55:53 -0700 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA14021 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 08:55:41 -0700 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA24315 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Thu, 4 May 1995 19:47:24 +0400 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 4 May 95 19:47:23 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA02224; Thu, 4 May 1995 19:28:05 +0400 To: Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?= , current@FreeBSD.org References: <199505041422.HAA00611@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> In-Reply-To: <199505041422.HAA00611@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?= at Thu, 4 May 1995 07:22:29 -0700 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:28:04 +0400 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.32 FreeBSD] From: "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: login doesn't update utmp for ttyp[g-v] Lines: 15 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 688 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505041422.HAA00611@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?= writes: >It seems like something in the system isn't handling the upper half of >ttyp's right, as when I get past the "traditional" ttypf, the logins >don't get recorded in utmp: Check /etc/ttys, it logins only lines mentioned there. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 09:49:01 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16349 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:49:01 -0700 Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA16321 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:48:07 -0700 Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.6.12/BSD4.4) id CAA26067; Fri, 5 May 1995 02:37:55 +1000 From: michael butler Message-Id: <199505041637.CAA26067@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: Non-USA secure/DES distribution To: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 02:37:54 +1000 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505041339.UAA21569@gw.itfs.nsk.su> from "Nickolay N. Dudorov" at May 4, 95 08:39:09 pm Reply-To: imb@scgt.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 443 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nickolay N. Dudorov writes: > Is there any possibility to make non-USA > secure (or will it be DES?) distribution for 2.0.5 ? > I mean binary and sources which can be ftp'ed from > some place outside USA and installed along with other > parts of 2.0.5 ? I've been using the 1.1.5.1 stuff from physics.su.oz.au (and, no doubt, other places) with no apparent ill-effects .. that is .. if you really *must* use something like DES .. michael From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 11:53:56 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA19330 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 11:53:56 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19278 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 11:53:11 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20491; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:49:31 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA09977 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:49:30 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA24116 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:04:09 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505041804.UAA24116@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: build world failed To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:04:09 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199505041515.RAA12549@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at May 4, 95 05:15:02 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 369 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > cc -O -m486 -pipe -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/obj -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio -g -c y.tab.c -o vgaio.o > > -O2 will succeed. Perhaps i should forcibly add -O2 to the CFLAGS there? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 14:09:33 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA23221 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:09:33 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA23211 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:09:28 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15109; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:09:16 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01096; Thu, 4 May 95 17:07:07 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Leppek X-Sender: jleppek@borg To: FreeBSD-current users , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: build world failed In-Reply-To: <199505041804.UAA24116@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 1995, J Wunsch wrote: > As Ollivier Robert wrote: > > > > > cc -O -m486 -pipe -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/obj -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio -g -c y.tab.c -o vgaio.o > > > > -O2 will succeed. > > Perhaps i should forcibly add -O2 to the CFLAGS there? > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > I just changed make.conf and all went well, but it does seem like a good idea to force the -O2 if it is needed as its hard to deduce the problem by looking at the code :-) Jim From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 14:45:12 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA27168 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:45:12 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA27160 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:45:07 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA05040; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:43:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:43:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199505042143.OAA05040@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ache@astral.msk.su CC: current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (ache@astral.msk.su) Subject: Re: login doesn't update utmp for ttyp[g-v] From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?=) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * In message <199505041422.HAA00611@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Satoshi * Asami | =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQHUbKEI=?= * =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOCsbKEIgGyRCOC0bKEI=?= writes: * * >It seems like something in the system isn't handling the upper half of * >ttyp's right, as when I get past the "traditional" ttypf, the logins * >don't get recorded in utmp: * * Check /etc/ttys, it logins only lines mentioned there. Oh, I see. Thanks, it works now. We need to fix the sample ttys though, it still has ttyp[0-f] ttyq[0-f]. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 15:07:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA29503 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:07:04 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29456 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:06:28 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA05398; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:06:11 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA16624; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:06:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199505042206.AAA16624@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: John Hay cc: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov), current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Non-USA secure/DES distribution Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 00:06:10 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Is there any possibility to make non-USA > > secure (or will it be DES?) distribution for 2.0.5 ? > > I mean binary and sources which can be ftp'ed from > > some place outside USA and installed along with other > > parts of 2.0.5 ? > > > > N.Dudorov > > > The source should already be available on: skeleton.mikom.csir.co.za > > I'm not sure if Mark Murray will do a binary dist. He Will! Mark -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 15:21:21 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA00140 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:21:21 -0700 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29937 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:10:59 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id SAA15222; Thu, 4 May 1995 18:10:31 -0400 Received: (from gene@localhost) by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA01302; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:55:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:55:01 -0400 From: Gene Stark Message-Id: <199505042155.RAA01302@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: User Jleppek Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: User Jleppek's message of Thu, 4 May 1995 07:31:18 -0400 Subject: build world failed Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Update your /etc/make.conf to the latest version. This has -O2 and no -pipe in CFLAGS. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 15:24:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA00204 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:24:24 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29636 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:08:16 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA05402; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:08:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA16642; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199505042208.AAA16642@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: imb@scgt.oz.au cc: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov), current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Non-USA secure/DES distribution Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 00:08:05 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've been using the 1.1.5.1 stuff from physics.su.oz.au (and, no doubt, > other places) with no apparent ill-effects .. that is .. if you really > *must* use something like DES .. The libs are different, and there is added funtionality (kadmin[d]) and a couple of bug fixes in the latest stuff. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 17:07:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA29503 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:07:04 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29456 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 15:06:28 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA05398; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:06:11 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA16624; Fri, 5 May 1995 00:06:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199505042206.AAA16624@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: John Hay cc: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su (Nickolay N. Dudorov), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Non-USA secure/DES distribution Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 00:06:10 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > > Is there any possibility to make non-USA > > secure (or will it be DES?) distribution for 2.0.5 ? > > I mean binary and sources which can be ftp'ed from > > some place outside USA and installed along with other > > parts of 2.0.5 ? > > > > N.Dudorov > > > The source should already be available on: skeleton.mikom.csir.co.za > > I'm not sure if Mark Murray will do a binary dist. He Will! Mark -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 17:51:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA05949 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:51:19 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA05942 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 17:51:17 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15395; Thu, 4 May 1995 20:50:49 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01272; Thu, 4 May 95 20:48:40 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:48:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Leppek X-Sender: jleppek@borg To: Gene Stark Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: build world failed In-Reply-To: <199505042155.RAA01302@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 1995, Gene Stark wrote: > Update your /etc/make.conf to the latest version. This has -O2 and no > -pipe in CFLAGS. > - Gene Stark > Hmmm, I sup daily and my make.conf has # One, and probably the most common, use could be: # #CFLAGS= -O2 -m486 -pipe # # Another useful entry is # #NOPROFILE= no_way # Avoid compiling profiled libraries # # To compile the kernel with special optimisations, you can use this: # #COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe is there a list somewhere of cc options not to use? Jim From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 23:23:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA14135 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:23:32 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA14129 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:23:26 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11517; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:21:58 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA13065; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:21:57 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA26559; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:12:49 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505050612.IAA26559@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: build world failed To: jleppek@su15a.ess.harris.com (Jim Leppek) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:12:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jim Leppek" at May 4, 95 05:07:07 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 478 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jim Leppek wrote: > > > Perhaps i should forcibly add -O2 to the CFLAGS there? > I just changed make.conf and all went well, but it does seem > like a good idea to force the -O2 if it is needed as its hard > to deduce the problem by looking at the code :-) It's a compiler (or assembler?) bug. The -O2 is simply a workaround. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 23:55:45 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA14749 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:55:45 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA14743 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 23:55:39 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA13656 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:55:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199505050655.IAA13656@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: LINT out of date? Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 08:55:29 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, First a typo # # Under some circumstances it is necessary to make the default max - # number of proccesses per user and open files per user more than the + # number of processes per user and open files per user more than the # defaults on bootup. (an example is a large news server in which # the uid, news, can sometimes need > 100 simultaneous processes running) And then a question # # ST-506, ESDI, and IDE hard disks: `wdc' and `wd' # > # NB: ``Enhanced IDE'' is NOT supported at this time. # # The flags fields are used to enable the multi-sector I/O and Is it still true? -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 02:11:57 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA20134 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 02:11:57 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA20120 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 02:11:48 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id LAA28791 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:11:34 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id LAA16720 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:11:34 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199505050911.LAA16720@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: build world failed To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:11:33 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199505041804.UAA24116@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at May 4, 95 08:04:09 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 247 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Perhaps i should forcibly add -O2 to the CFLAGS there? Till gcc is fixed, it is a good idea. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 03:57:56 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA23815 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 03:57:56 -0700 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA23806 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 03:57:54 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id GAA15805; Fri, 5 May 1995 06:57:27 -0400 Received: (from gene@localhost) by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA03659; Fri, 5 May 1995 06:53:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 06:53:01 -0400 From: Gene Stark Message-Id: <199505051053.GAA03659@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: su15a.ess.harris.com!jleppek@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu CC: FreeBSD.org!current@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu In-reply-to: Jim Leppek's message of Thu, 4 May 1995 20:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: build world failed Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hmmm, I sup daily and my make.conf has (deleted) >is there a list somewhere of cc options not to use? Not that I know of, but I just got done debugging the same problem you described, and I was just telling you that I found out my /etc/make.conf was several months old and out-of-date. - Gene From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 05:08:55 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA24966 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 05:08:55 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA24921 ; Fri, 5 May 1995 05:07:10 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA20100; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:59:00 +1000 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 21:59:00 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199505051159.VAA20100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Great Renaming of ttyd* and cua* Yet Again Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We now have or will have some new h/w tty drivers that have more consistent names for the devices: callin callout initial lock Cyclades: ttyc[0-v] cuac[0-v] ttyic*,cuaic* ttylc*,cualc* Riscom: ttyr[0-v] n/a n/a n/a We have many inconsistenly named h/w tty devices: Cronyx: tty[x-z][0-f] n/a n/a n/a Generic xxx50: ttyd[0-v] cuaa[0-v] ttyid*,cuaia* ttyla*,cuala* isdn: ity0[0-1] ityo[0-1] n/a n/a I think the names and control interfaces should be: Foo: ttyF[0-v] cuaF[0-v] ttyFi*,cuaFi* ttyFl*,cuaFl* i.e., the first letter of the driver name should appear following `tty' in the device name, and the initial and lock devices should be named so that you can find all `Foo' tty devices asily using shell regular expressions. This mainly affects sio. It's confusing to have `d' and `a' ttys being fore the `sio' driver. `s' wouldn't be much better because the sio driver is for xxx50 chips and not for all serial chips. I intend to reorganize the driver and this distinction will be clearer - sio.c will have the generic serial stuff and nsxxx50.c will have the xxx50 stuff; sio.c will be used by cy.c... So sio devices should be renamed ttyn*. This doesn't solve the problem of naming lots of devices. I don;t have a good solution. The sio encoding limits the number of ports to 32, but this should change soon. The Cronyx device numbering takes too much precious namespace and has bugs: it only covers 48 ports but the driver supports 64 and the last one is special so it should be covered, and the last letter stops at f instead of at v. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 08:10:14 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA29869 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:10:14 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA29790 ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:07:23 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA24044 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Fri, 5 May 1995 18:50:03 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Fri, 5 May 95 18:50:00 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA01803; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:45:52 +0400 To: Bruce Evans , current@FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org References: <199505051159.VAA20100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> In-Reply-To: <199505051159.VAA20100@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans at Fri, 5 May 1995 21:59:00 +1000 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 18:45:52 +0400 X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.32 FreeBSD] From: "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: Great Renaming of ttyd* and cua* Yet Again Lines: 39 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1652 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505051159.VAA20100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Bruce Evans writes: >We now have or will have some new h/w tty drivers that have more consistent >names for the devices: > callin callout initial lock >Cyclades: ttyc[0-v] cuac[0-v] ttyic*,cuaic* ttylc*,cualc* >Riscom: ttyr[0-v] n/a n/a n/a ^^^^^^^^^ cuar[0-v] >I think the names and control interfaces should be: >Foo: ttyF[0-v] cuaF[0-v] ttyFi*,cuaFi* ttyFl*,cuaFl* >This mainly affects sio. It's confusing to have `d' and `a' ttys being >fore the `sio' driver. `s' wouldn't be much better because the sio driver >is for xxx50 chips and not for all serial chips. I intend to reorganize >the driver and this distinction will be clearer - sio.c will have the >generic serial stuff and nsxxx50.c will have the xxx50 stuff; sio.c will >be used by cy.c... So sio devices should be renamed ttyn*. I think it will be easy to name xxx50 entries as ttyd? and cuad?, it is many places in system which relays on ttyd? to rename all of them. >This doesn't solve the problem of naming lots of devices. I don;t have >a good solution. The sio encoding limits the number of ports to 32, but >this should change soon. The Cronyx device numbering takes too much minor macro can be easily change to more devices: we have at leats big letters unused. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 08:17:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA00173 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:17:19 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA29947 ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:15:00 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA25880; Sat, 6 May 1995 01:11:31 +1000 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 01:11:31 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199505051511.BAA25880@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@astral.msk.su, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Great Renaming of ttyd* and cua* Yet Again Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I think it will be easy to name xxx50 entries as ttyd? and cuad?, >it is many places in system which relays on ttyd? to rename all >of them. I hope not. All these places will fail to handle ttyc... >minor macro can be easily change to more devices: we have at leats >big letters unused. [0-9a-zA-Z] is 2 short of the next power of 2. We would need to use Cyrilic letters :-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 13:34:37 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA10889 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:34:37 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easyr.easynet.net [198.67.38.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA10881 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:34:34 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s7U4z-000rdDC; Fri, 5 May 95 13:34 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: problem PCMCIA sio fails probe To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 498 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just put a Cardinal 28.8 V.34 PCMCIA modem (w/16550A uart) in my laptop which runs FreeBSD-current. Previously I had a TDK 14.4 modem in there. The sioprobe of the Cardinal 16550A fails on test 5. If just commented out test 5 and now it is detected and works properly, or at least, I can dialout via tip/xc at 57600 and do the things I used to (admittedly a little faster 8-)) and ppp to my internet provider works fine to. Just thought you'd like to know. Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 18:52:00 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA20059 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:52:00 -0700 Received: from remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.82.33]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA20046 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 18:51:57 -0700 Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta3) id KAA22597; Sat, 6 May 1995 10:51:36 +0900 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 10:51:36 +0900 Message-Id: <199505060151.KAA22597@remington.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: brian@mediacity.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: problem PCMCIA sio fails probe In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 5 May 1995 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT). From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article brian@mediacity.com writes: >> The sioprobe of the Cardinal 16550A fails on test 5. If just commented >> out test 5 and now it is detected and works properly, or >> at least, I can dialout via tip/xc at 57600 and do the things I used >> to (admittedly a little faster 8-)) and ppp to my internet provider >> works fine to. I heard the problem like that happens on IBM ThinkPad 230Cs. Please try the following modification to sio.c failures[0] = inb(iobase + com_cfcr) - CFCR_8BITS; failures[1] = inb(iobase + com_ier) - IER_ETXRDY; failures[2] = inb(iobase + com_mcr) - mcr_image; if (idev->id_irq != 0) failures[3] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 0 : 1; + #ifdef TP230 + /* + * Following line(outb()) is only for IBM ThinkPad 230Cs + * by tomi@esvgw.esv.co.jp + */ + outb(IO_ICU1 + 1, idev->id_irq ^ 0xff); + #endif /* TP230 */ failures[4] = (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) - IIR_TXRDY; if (idev->id_irq != 0) failures[5] = isa_irq_pending(idev) ? 1 : 0; failures[6] = (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) - IIR_NOPEND; BTW, are you using new sio.c with our patch to use PCMCIA card? If you're using it, above patch has been incorporated. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 21:15:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA22381 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:15:32 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA22375 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:15:18 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA12808; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:10:52 +1000 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 14:10:52 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199505060410.OAA12808@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: brian@mediacity.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problem PCMCIA sio fails probe Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I just put a Cardinal 28.8 V.34 PCMCIA modem (w/16550A uart) in my >laptop which runs FreeBSD-current. >Previously I had a TDK 14.4 modem in there. >The sioprobe of the Cardinal 16550A fails on test 5. If just commented >out test 5 and now it is detected and works properly, or Try adding a delay before test 5. It is possible that the modem is a bit slow clearing the IRQ. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 00:21:11 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA26582 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:21:11 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA26574 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:21:06 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20449; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:21:01 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA20529 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:21:00 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00359 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:18:39 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199505060718.JAA00359@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: build world failed To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 09:18:37 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: from "Jim Leppek" at May 4, 95 05:07:07 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 393 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jim Leppek wrote: > > > > > cc -O -m486 -pipe -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio/obj -I /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vgaio -g -c y.tab.c -o vgaio.o > > > > > > -O2 will succeed. > > > > Perhaps i should forcibly add -O2 to the CFLAGS there? Did it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 06:18:10 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA09296 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 May 1995 06:18:10 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA09284 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 06:18:07 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id JAA15015; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:16:23 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505061316.JAA15015@hda.com> Subject: SCSI drive auto error reallocation To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 09:16:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1444 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The newest version of "scsi" lets you edit your mode pages. Now that I've added that you may want to check to see if you have automatic read and write reallocation enabled. I have three SCSI drives and none did. The command is "scsi -f /dev/rsd?c -m 1" to dump mode page 1, and "scsi -f /dev/rsd?c -m 1 -e -P 3" to edit the page and store the changes permanently. WARNING: THIS IS A NEW COMMAND. The edit works fine for me on the three drives I have, but you may want to do it right after your backups. Three drives is not a full coverage test. I don't think reading back your mode pages can hurt things. Here is the output I get with read and write reallocation enabled: > hda# scsi -f /dev/rsd2c -m 1 > AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 1 > ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 > TB (Transfer Block): 1 > RC (Read Continuous): 0 > EER (Enable Early Recovery): 1 > PER (Post Error): 0 > DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 > DCR (Disable Correction): 0 > Read Retry Count: 18 > Correction Span: 11 > Head Offset Count: 0 > Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 > Write Retry Count: 18 > Recovery Time Limit: 0 If AWRE and ARRE are 0 you want to run the command with the "-e -P 3" switches to permanently enable read and write reallocation. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 12:19:27 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA18194 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 May 1995 12:19:27 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA18186 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 12:19:24 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id PAA15571; Sat, 6 May 1995 15:17:40 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505061917.PAA15571@hda.com> Subject: Re: SCSI drive auto error reallocation To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 15:17:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199505061316.JAA15015@hda.com> from "Peter Dufault" at May 6, 95 09:16:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 560 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The newest version of "scsi" lets you edit your mode pages. Now > that I've added that you may want to check to see if you have > automatic read and write reallocation enabled. I have three SCSI > drives and none did. Sorry I didn't mention this in my the first mail: You will need to install /usr/src/share/misc/scsi_modes in /usr/share/misc/scsi_modes to get human readable output. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267