From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 00:23:08 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA25435 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 00:23:08 -0700 Received: from leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.249]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25386 ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 00:23:00 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00224; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:22:14 +0800 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:22:14 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: Michael Smith cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , root@debian.cps.cmich.edu, freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Todays disk set problems In-Reply-To: <199506040529.OAA01443@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > Set the hostname, cursor out, it stays set. Go down to netmask, > type something and cursor out, it's erased. Also, if you don't > set a netmask, a default should be used, as otherwise the ifconfig > for the port barfs and you can't do anything 8( The field doesn't clear when I use it. I type in 0xffffff00 (can this be made the default?) and hit Tab to leave the field, it stays. Don't remember if I tried using the arrow keys. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 01:24:43 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA02898 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 01:24:43 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA02866 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 01:24:31 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21620; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:24:28 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA28882 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:24:26 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA26622 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:50:21 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199506040750.JAA26622@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:50:21 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199506040346.UAA18045@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jun 3, 95 08:46:03 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 871 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > While you're at it, how about making our custom version perl 5 clean? > > I am *NOT* a perl hacker, I can just scrap by fixing broken things. That > and can it be made to be both perl 4.136 and 5.0 clean? Remeber, FreeFall > runs releases, not the cutting edge, and the release is and will be for > some time at perl 4.136. Should be possible. Perl 5 has some syntax extensions, e.g. an unquoted @ within a "" string is now expanded; fixed scripts (that do not use the extensions, but take care of them) should be backwards compatible to Perl 4 however. I've been told that the perl 5 compiler gives a detailed error message. I don't have perl 5 by now, so please don't ask me... (yet). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 07:36:58 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA11814 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 07:36:58 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA11808 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 07:36:56 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <43010>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 16:36:43 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA18097; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 16:36:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199506041436.QAA18097@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: bde@zeta.org.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Jun 1995 18:48:19 +0200." <199506031648.JAA15257@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 16:36:27 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi Rod > please go read the cvs-FAQ-2.3 from ftp.think.com:/pub/cvs OK, I've ftp'ed it, I will read it before doing anything. (I'm also grabbing cvs-1.3.tar.gz while on line, for interest) I had already read man cvs [all] a while ago, & first half of cvs-0.8-A4.ps.gz postscript doc more recently, but hadn't remembered the logs path (I paid more attention to syntax & usage of commands). Thanks, Julian S From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 11:56:38 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA26153 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:56:38 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA26146 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:56:36 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA19911; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:56:04 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199506041856.LAA19911@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree To: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 11:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) In-Reply-To: <199506041436.QAA18097@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian Howard Stacey" at Jun 4, 95 04:36:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 493 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Hi Rod > > please go read the cvs-FAQ-2.3 from ftp.think.com:/pub/cvs > OK, I've ftp'ed it, I will read it before doing anything. > (I'm also grabbing cvs-1.3.tar.gz while on line, for interest) You should probably go get cvs-1.4.tar.gz off of the GNU site, that is what we are running now. The cvs-1.3 was for 2.0R and below. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 12:35:19 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA28878 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 12:35:19 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA28872 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 12:35:16 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA19004; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:30:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:30:03 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199506031930.NAA19004@trout.sri.MT.net> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey), FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree In-Reply-To: <199506041856.LAA19911@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199506041436.QAA18097@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <199506041856.LAA19911@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Hi Rod > > > please go read the cvs-FAQ-2.3 from ftp.think.com:/pub/cvs > > OK, I've ftp'ed it, I will read it before doing anything. > > (I'm also grabbing cvs-1.3.tar.gz while on line, for interest) > > You should probably go get cvs-1.4.tar.gz off of the GNU site, that > is what we are running now. The cvs-1.3 was for 2.0R and below. The CVS 1.4-FAQ is now in our source tree in the cvs src directory. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 16:34:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA18765 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 16:34:44 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA18753 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 16:34:40 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA19004; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:30:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:30:03 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199506031930.NAA19004@trout.sri.MT.net> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Julian Howard Stacey), FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree In-Reply-To: <199506041856.LAA19911@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199506041436.QAA18097@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <199506041856.LAA19911@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Hi Rod > > > please go read the cvs-FAQ-2.3 from ftp.think.com:/pub/cvs > > OK, I've ftp'ed it, I will read it before doing anything. > > (I'm also grabbing cvs-1.3.tar.gz while on line, for interest) > > You should probably go get cvs-1.4.tar.gz off of the GNU site, that > is what we are running now. The cvs-1.3 was for 2.0R and below. The CVS 1.4-FAQ is now in our source tree in the cvs src directory. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 17:33:40 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA26234 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:33:40 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA26226 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:33:39 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org id AA28678; Sun, 4 Jun 95 17:31:26 -0700 Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00453 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:31:00 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199506050031.RAA00453@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Problems with new boot.flp To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:30:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1013 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Just tried out the new installation off of the boot.flp (grabbed about an hour ago). Things are looking really great! Couple things went wrong, however: 1) This is a small one. The ftp directory structure is so deep that it doesn't fit on one line of a displayed dialog if an error comes up on failure of fetching a distribution. Nothing happens but you get kind of an ugly wraparound effect. 2) This is a larger one. When trying to grab my XFree86 server (ATI Mach32-based), no matter what ftp location I chose, it couldn't grab it. I manually ftp'd to the server, grabbed it, stuck it in a local directory and told sysinstall that it was on my local system. Still couldn't find it. Maybe a misspelled filename in sysinstall? Sysinstall calls the server Ma3 (short for XF311Ma3.tgz) while it is stored on the ftp server as XF311Ma32.tgz. Renaming my local copy to XF311Ma3.tgz didn't solve the problem, however. I did not try to grab any other servers. Other than that, job well done! Cheers, -Wes From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 4 21:22:20 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA19766 for current-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 21:22:20 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA19757 ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 21:22:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Wes Santee cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with new boot.flp In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Jun 95 17:30:59 PDT." <199506050031.RAA00453@wsantee.oz.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 21:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: <19752.802326138@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1) This is a small one. The ftp directory structure is so deep that > it doesn't fit on one line of a displayed dialog if an error comes up > on failure of fetching a distribution. Nothing happens but you get > kind of an ugly wraparound effect. I'll look into it. > 2) This is a larger one. When trying to grab my XFree86 server (ATI > Mach32-based), no matter what ftp location I chose, it couldn't grab > it. I manually ftp'd to the server, grabbed it, stuck it in a local Naming botch, fixed! Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 5 01:05:29 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA08095 for current-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:05:29 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA08089 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:05:25 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA27890 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 10:05:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199506050805.KAA27890@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cosmetic changes in ctm man pages Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 10:05:21 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello, Note that the line containing ``ref.tfs.com'' in ctm_rmail.1 should also be updated. Index: ctm/ctm.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/trash/cvs.root/src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm/ctm.1,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 ctm.1 --- 1.2 1995/03/26 20:09:46 +++ ctm.1 1995/06/05 07:54:38 @@ -130,8 +130,9 @@ .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr ctm_rmail 1 , +.Xr ctm_smail 1 , .Xr ctm 5 -.Pq yet to be written . .Sh HISTORY @@ -140,7 +141,7 @@ The .Nm ctm -command appeared in FreeBSD 2.1. +command appeared in FreeBSD 2.0.5. .Sh AUTHORS Index: ctm/ctm.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/trash/cvs.root/src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm/ctm.5,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 ctm.5 --- 1.2 1995/03/26 20:09:48 +++ ctm.5 1995/06/05 07:55:55 @@ -190,14 +190,16 @@ .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr ctm 1 ; -.Xr ed 1 . +.Xr ctm 1 , +.Xr ctm_rmail 1 , +.Xr ctm_smail 1 , +.Xr ed 1 .Sh HISTORY Initial trials ran during the FreeBSD 1.1.5, and many bugs and methods were hashed out. -The CTM system has been made publically available in FreeBSD 2.1. +The CTM system has been made publically available in FreeBSD 2.0.5. .Sh AUTHORS Index: ctm_rmail/ctm_rmail.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/trash/cvs.root/src/usr.sbin/ctm/ctm_rmail/ctm_rmail.1,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 ctm_rmail.1 --- 1.4 1995/02/25 05:10:17 +++ ctm_rmail.1 1995/06/05 07:57:15 @@ -345,8 +345,8 @@ .\" The next request is for sections 2 and 3 error and signal handling only. .\" .Sh ERRORS .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr ctm 1 -(coming soon) +.Xr ctm 1 , +.Xr ctm 5 .\" .Sh STANDARDS .\" .Sh HISTORY .Sh AUTHOR -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 5 04:23:36 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA19942 for current-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 04:23:36 -0700 Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA19790 ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 04:20:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA14212; Tue, 30 May 1995 07:56:08 +0500 From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199505300256.HAA14212@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: ep and ie drivers conflict (?) To: gibbs@freefall.cdrom.com (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 07:56:07 +0500 (GMT+0500) Cc: nnd@gw.itfs.nsk.su, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199505291517.IAA00401@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at May 29, 95 08:17:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1002 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >> It seems to me that problem is in 3COM's 'ELINK_ID_PORT' > >> or 'EP_ID_PORT' (0x100) which is used in both ep and ie > >> drivers. (Is it right that probe order of devices follows > >> their order in config file ?). > > > >The order of probing of ID_PORT may be any (as it looks to me). > >IMHO the problem is that the ie driver doesn't do any checks for > >manufacturer ID nor product ID and erroneuosly identifies 3c509 > >card as its (but i'm not shure about this diagnosys). > > It doesn't identify the 3c509 as an ie device, it just spams the > 3c509 and I guess the ep driver does not do enough to resurect it. Agreed. But did you applied the last patch I published ? It contains a change in the initialization procedure made by Steven E. Piette that should help (at least it allows to recover after DOS drivers). I can't try it because I have no -current now. Serge Babkin ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" ! Chelyabinsk, Russia From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 5 12:08:48 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA21903 for current-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:08:48 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA21891 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:08:42 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA03525 for current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:01:52 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:01:52 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199506041901.NAA03525@trout.sri.MT.net> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD required to bootstrap HURD Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Path: helena.MT.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news1.digex.net!news3.digex.net!usenet From: "Frederick (Rick) A Niles" Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Pre-HURD GNU System: Linux or FreeBSD? Date: 2 Jun 1995 03:10:20 GMT Organization: NASA GSFC Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3qlves$3vm@news3.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dcc05461.slip.digex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; Linux 1.2.7 i486) X-URL: news:gnu.misc.discuss/16618-16718 This just asking for a battle but here goes anyway... I've heard that R. Stallman has said that the Linux/GNU system is the offical FSF GNU system until the HURD is ready, however, one (currently) needs FreeBSD to install the HURD. Does this not introduce a conflict? Perhaps the HURD and even Mach itself was geared (file system wise) toward FreeBSD before Linux ever became a real alterative? I realize this is not really important, but as a current Linux user I find it frustrating I can't directly try the HURD without having FreeBSD. Yes, I know a port the ext2 File system is underway (I think so at least) for the HURD. For course it's entirely possiable I misunderstood the HURD alpha documentation. Rick Niles. niles@axp745.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 5 18:35:21 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA19432 for current-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:35:21 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA19426 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:35:18 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id VAA09558; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:24:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:24:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: freebsd-* mailing lists (Was Re: SUP server down?) To: -Vince- cc: Pete Carah , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote: > > > Hmmm, what did you change? > > > > bulk_mailer expects to get clean addresses with no extraneous > > material. i added a '-m' flag to strip this material so it can use > > majordomo list files directly, if needed. > > > > added a '-S' to limit the number of sendmail processes (needs testing) > > > > added a '-N' to limit the number of hosts per envelope (needs testing) > > > > comments as i figured out what was happening in each function > > > > comment at the top of all non-trivial functions to doc their behavior > > > > that's all i remember of the top of my head. > > > > Hmmm, okay, any chance of making the modified one available since > your headers don't have that warning line that mines has ;) > be glad to, but i want to clean it up a little. finish testing, and provide the changes to the author of teh original code. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 15:11:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA17465 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:11:39 -0700 Received: from reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.230.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA17457 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:11:36 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <51624>; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:11:31 +0200 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA10449 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:00:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:00:39 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199506062100.XAA10449@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: obj sym links, & nfs & share/mk: usage with 2 processors and 1 tree Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This is for those who like to think about obj sym links, & nfs & share/mk; those who prefer not to worry about those things should skip this :-) ..... I'd welcome suggestions for a puzzle I'm working on: ( perhaps I haven't realised an env. var. exists, or perhaps the mk/ files could do with enhancement ? ) I'm trying (with current) to compile different subdirs of 1 common src/ and 1 common obj/ tree on 2 different nfs mounted hosts simultaneously ... & failing so far ... either I've not got something right, or perhaps no one else has tried this ? (& yes I know I need to keep my /usr/include in step etc) I have previously succeeded with 1 nfs mounted src & 2 seperate obj trees, when compiling on 2 hosts, but I thought it'd be nice to be able to do a fast check compile of the tree using power of 2 processors in parallel ... My set up: 2 hosts: vector & lion vector /etc/exports: / -maproot=root -alldirs /usr -maproot=root -alldirs /usr1 -maproot=root -alldirs /usr2 -maproot=root -alldirs mount: lion:/ on /net/lion lion:/usr on /net/lion/usr lion:/usr1 on /net/lion/usr1 /usr/src@ -> ../usr1/src ../usr1/src -> /usr/public/freebsd/compile/src /usr/obj@ -> ../usr2/data/obj /usr2/data/obj/net/lion@ -> .. /usr2/data/obj/net/vector@ -> .. /usr/ftp@ -> ../usr1/ftp lion /etc/exports: / -maproot=root -alldirs /usr -maproot=root -alldirs /usr1 -maproot=root -alldirs mount: vector:/ on /net/vector vector:/usr on /net/vector/usr vector:/usr1 on /net/vector/usr1 vector:/usr2 on /net/vector/usr2 /usr/src@ -> ../net/vector/usr/src /usr/obj@ -> ../net/vector/usr/obj /usr/ftp@ -> ../net/vector/usr/ftp I did the initial compile on vector, & acquired obj links such as: /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/adjkerntz/obj@ -> \ /usr/obj/usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/adjkerntz but couldnt use this on lion: make: don't know how to make /usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/\ sbin/adjkerntz/adjkerntz.c. Stop ( I'm not sure where this rooted path /usr1/.... is coming from, ? ) On lion I tried: make clean make obj /net/vector/usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/compile/src/sbin/adjkerntz \ -> /usr/obj/net/vector/usr1/ftp/public/freebsd/\ compile/src/sbin/adjkerntz make This then worked for vector & lion, but means I can't use all the obj links created by future make worlds run on vector, & that in future I must do my make obj run on src from any host other than the one running the make world, (& must meantime on lion do a find src -type l -name obj | xargs rm) I have cludged the thing on lion for now by doing ln -s ../usr/ftp /usr1/ftp but /usr1 on lion is not always there (sometimes unmounted for other stuff), (OK I could create a /usr1/... on lion:/usr while /usr1 unmounted too). Is there an elegant solution ? (apart from a mega fast Pentium ;-) & where's that rooted /usr1/.... coming from ? Julian S jhs@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 15:12:47 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA17552 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:12:47 -0700 Received: from reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.230.226]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA17532 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:12:44 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by reinfra.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <51625>; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:12:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA08081; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:48:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199506060848.KAA08081@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: sup is fetching whole src tree In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Jun 1995 21:30:03 +0200." <199506031930.NAA19004@trout.sri.MT.net> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:48:11 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Nate wrote: > The CVS 1.4-FAQ is now in our source tree in the cvs src directory. Thanks, I see src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/FAQ: Archive-name: cvs-faq $Revision: 1.1.1.1 $ <<== Include this in your comments $Date: 1995/03/31 07:42:45 $ ftp.think.com/pub/cvs/FAQ-2.3 is the same except a diff shows: $Revision: 2.3 $ <<== Include this in your comments $Date: 1993/08/13 18:00:10 $ It seems FreeBSD CVS zapped the original Revision ? At least src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/README has an unmangled Rev. No. in it: CVS Kit, Version 1.4 Alpha Suggestion for CVS on FreeBSD : Perhaps on freefall CVS initial commit we (or cvs ?) should prepend a FreeBSD CVS stamp, & then prevent CVS from mangling second and subsequent revision strings We would then have a src tree (rather than just a FreeBSD CVS tree), where - users could identify file versions without ftp'ing (or tar xv'ing etc) to check & compare. - subsequent embedded version strings would not get mangled (as Rod diagnosed was happening for instance on a (since fixed) version of ports/comms/hylafax/patches/patch-aa) Years ago I used SCCS something like this (I recall), - First line showed our company's internal SCCS string. - Next line was sometimes/often blank I seem to recall, - Next line was the unchanged Rev. No. (SCCS or whatever else) of whoever our software source was. Would this method be attractive to FreeBSD ? Julian S From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 15:27:24 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA18050 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:27:24 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA18044 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:27:20 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA23078; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:24:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:24:34 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199506062224.QAA23078@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: Julian Howard Stacey "Re: sup is fetching whole src tree" (Jun 6, 10:48am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Julian Howard Stacey Subject: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Perhaps on freefall CVS initial commit we (or cvs ?) should prepend a > FreeBSD CVS stamp, & then prevent CVS from mangling second and subsequent > revision strings Rod originally had patches in CVS to do this, but there was a slight bug in them which caused us all sorts of grief and Rod wasn't around to fix them, so they were taken out. Both NetBSD and the XFree86 folks do this now, and while I admit it's a good idea it'd be a bit more difficult to do at this stage of the game than when we first did the 2.0 CVS tree. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 21:23:15 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA00179 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:23:15 -0700 Received: from vax.cs.pitt.edu (vax.cs.pitt.edu [136.142.79.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA00173 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:23:11 -0700 Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us by vax.cs.pitt.edu (8.6.10/1.14) for ; id AAA05604; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:22:55 -0400 Received: by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.6.10/1.34) id AAA08290; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:03:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:03:53 -0400 From: durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us (James C. Durham) Message-Id: <199506070403.AAA08290@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> To: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: 2.0.5 kernel no compile without scsi Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Looks like the 2.0.5 kernel won't compile without some scsi devices being specified. I don't have any, so didn't.... with the following results: wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_3btou' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_done' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_attachdevs' referenced from text segment wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_sbdriver' referenced from data segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_sbintr' referenced from data segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_opldriver' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. **********Here's my config file********** (with comments removed) # machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" # ident ZORCH # maxusers 10 # options "CHILD_MAX=128" options "OPEN_MAX=128" # config kernel root on wd0 dumps on wd0 # options "COMPAT_43" # options USER_LDT # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options DDB options KTRACE options DIAGNOSTIC options UCONSOLE options INET # pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sppp pseudo-device loop pseudo-device sl 2 pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device disc pseudo-device tun 1 # options "TCP_COMPAT_42" options GATEWAY options FFS options NFS options "CD9660" options MSDOSFS options PROCFS options "NSWAPDEV=20" # pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device log pseudo-device snp 3 # controller isa0 # options "AUTO_EOI_1" options BOUNCE_BUFFERS options XSERVER # device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr options HARDFONTS options "MAXCONS=16" # device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 # controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options FDSEEKWAIT="16" # device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT3" tty irq 7 vector lptintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr # device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty # controller matcd0 at isa? port ? bio device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" # options PROBE_VERBOSE -Jim Durham From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 21:45:01 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA00664 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:45:01 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA00648 ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:44:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199506070444.VAA00648@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us (James C. Durham) cc: freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: 2.0.5 kernel no compile without scsi In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 95 00:03:53 EDT." <199506070403.AAA08290@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 21:44:57 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Looks like the 2.0.5 kernel won't compile without some scsi devices >being specified. I don't have any, so didn't.... with the following results: > The wd7000 is a scsi device, but it doesn't appear in the config file below (controller wds). You also have sound cruft left in your compile directory. Do a make clean in your compile dir and try again. >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_3btou' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_done' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_attachdevs' referenced from text segment >wd7000.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_uto3b' referenced from text segment >ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_sbdriver' referenced from data segment >ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_sbintr' referenced from data segment >ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_opldriver' referenced from data segment >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. ... >-Jim Durham -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 22:27:53 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA01845 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:27:53 -0700 Received: from bang.rain.com (bang.rain.com [199.2.100.61]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA01828 ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:27:45 -0700 Received: (from john@localhost) by bang.rain.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA24071; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:27:42 -0700 From: John Cavanaugh Message-Id: <199506070527.WAA24071@bang.rain.com> Subject: FTP userpass checkbox not staying checked To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1168 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm testing out the latest install - Tue Jun 6 01:42:31 PDT 1995 and I am finding that the checkbox for the FTP userpass option in the options menu isn't staying checked after you check it and enter the info for it the first time. If you come back to the menu and check the box again, it will ask you for the info again (but it will already have the info you entered the first time) and the install went fine, but the checkbox doesn't wanna stay checked... Other than that, things look good Jordan! Oh, ok, one other minor qualm, when you are doing the post-installation things, setting the machine as a NFS server or client, when you hit enter on either of these options, the screen just blinks back at you. Now, I know from looking at the debug information, that the nfs_server and nfs_client variables are being set to YES, and that when you get done with the install, you'll get prompted to enter something into /etc/exports if you've checked the server option, it still would be nice to have something like a checkbox there so that you're aware you selected it. Cosmetic, but... -- John Cavanaugh "There can be only one." From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 6 23:51:46 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA04215 for current-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:51:46 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA04207 ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:51:45 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: John Cavanaugh cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP userpass checkbox not staying checked In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jun 95 22:27:41 PDT." <199506070527.WAA24071@bang.rain.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 23:51:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4206.802507904@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I'm testing out the latest install - Tue Jun 6 01:42:31 PDT 1995 and > I am finding that the checkbox for the FTP userpass option in the options > menu isn't staying checked after you check it and enter the info for it > the first time. If you come back to the menu and check the box again, it > will ask you for the info again (but it will already have the info you > entered the first time) and the install went fine, but the checkbox > doesn't wanna stay checked... I fixed that! I also ask you for the user/pass again IF you've specified it to begin with and the "ftp reselect" is on, switching you to another site. > Oh, ok, one other minor qualm, when you are doing the post-installation > things, setting the machine as a NFS server or client, when you hit > enter on either of these options, the screen just blinks back at you. Now, > I know from looking at the debug information, that the nfs_server and > nfs_client variables are being set to YES, and that when you get done with > the install, you'll get prompted to enter something into /etc/exports > if you've checked the server option, it still would be nice to have something > like a checkbox there so that you're aware you selected it. Cosmetic, but... I originally didn't do this because I didn't want to make that a check menu, but I may change my mind! Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 00:16:06 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA04917 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:16:06 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA04857 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:15:47 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21842; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:15:33 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA27936 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:15:32 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA09581 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:17:13 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:17:13 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) In-Reply-To: <199506062224.QAA23078@trout.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jun 6, 95 04:24:34 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 683 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Nate Williams wrote: [$FreeBSD$ RCS keyword] > Both NetBSD and the XFree86 folks do this now, and while I admit it's a > good idea it'd be a bit more difficult to do at this stage of the game > than when we first did the 2.0 CVS tree. Rod's opinion didn't seem to be too pessimistic that it can still be done. It's not only a Good Thing (TM), we do _need_ it. E.g., it would eliminate PR # gnu/449 (perl's $] variable is broken), and i'm sure there's other not-so-obvious imported software wher we also broke the original RCS ids. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 00:29:43 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA05639 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:29:43 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA05632 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:29:40 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA03480; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:31:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA00135; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:28:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199506070728.AAA00135@corbin.Root.COM> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Subject: Re: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 95 08:17:13 +0200." <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 00:28:36 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >As Nate Williams wrote: > >[$FreeBSD$ RCS keyword] > >> Both NetBSD and the XFree86 folks do this now, and while I admit it's a >> good idea it'd be a bit more difficult to do at this stage of the game >> than when we first did the 2.0 CVS tree. > >Rod's opinion didn't seem to be too pessimistic that it can still be >done. It's not only a Good Thing (TM), we do _need_ it. E.g., it >would eliminate PR # gnu/449 (perl's $] variable is broken), and i'm >sure there's other not-so-obvious imported software wher we also broke >the original RCS ids. I'll only agree to changing to this if the entire source tree is changed at the same time. Having a mixture of $Id$/$FreeBSD$ would be a *very* ugly mess. This shouldn't be difficult to accomplish with a simple sed script or something. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 02:49:56 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA12033 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:49:56 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA12026 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:49:54 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01818 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:49:59 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199506070949.CAA01818@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:49:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jun 7, 95 08:17:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1001 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > As Nate Williams wrote: > > [$FreeBSD$ RCS keyword] > > > Both NetBSD and the XFree86 folks do this now, and while I admit it's a > > good idea it'd be a bit more difficult to do at this stage of the game > > than when we first did the 2.0 CVS tree. > > Rod's opinion didn't seem to be too pessimistic that it can still be > done. It's not only a Good Thing (TM), we do _need_ it. E.g., it > would eliminate PR # gnu/449 (perl's $] variable is broken), and i'm > sure there's other not-so-obvious imported software wher we also broke > the original RCS ids. It can still be done, since it was turned on when I did the initial import the *original* RCS id strings are actually in the repository for all the *original* import bits. It would probably take me a good long weekend to reserect the other ID values that have been smashed. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 02:52:39 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA12082 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:52:39 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA12075 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:52:36 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01867; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:52:40 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199506070952.CAA01867@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 02:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de In-Reply-To: <199506070728.AAA00135@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Jun 7, 95 00:28:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 996 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > >As Nate Williams wrote: > > > >[$FreeBSD$ RCS keyword] > > > >> Both NetBSD and the XFree86 folks do this now, and while I admit it's a > >> good idea it'd be a bit more difficult to do at this stage of the game > >> than when we first did the 2.0 CVS tree. > > > >Rod's opinion didn't seem to be too pessimistic that it can still be > >done. It's not only a Good Thing (TM), we do _need_ it. E.g., it > >would eliminate PR # gnu/449 (perl's $] variable is broken), and i'm > >sure there's other not-so-obvious imported software wher we also broke > >the original RCS ids. > > I'll only agree to changing to this if the entire source tree is changed at > the same time. Having a mixture of $Id$/$FreeBSD$ would be a *very* ugly mess. > This shouldn't be difficult to accomplish with a simple sed script or > something. Agreed. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 05:16:25 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA16182 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 05:16:25 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA16169 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 05:16:17 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA26132 (5.65.kiae-2 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG); Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:00:58 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Wed, 7 Jun 95 16:00:57 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by astral.msk.su (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA01051 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:57:43 +0400 To: FreeBSD-current users References: <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de> In-Reply-To: <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch at Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:17:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:57:43 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.37 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA?= =?KOI8-R?Q?=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= aka "Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage" X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: CVS munging RCS Id's (was Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) Lines: 27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 921 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In message <199506070617.IAA09581@uriah.heep.sax.de> J Wunsch writes: >As Nate Williams wrote: >[$FreeBSD$ RCS keyword] >done. It's not only a Good Thing (TM), we do _need_ it. E.g., it >would eliminate PR # gnu/449 (perl's $] variable is broken), and i'm This one already fixed in another way. - -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBL9WUNOJgpPLZnQjrAQFAdQP/QkIuYNfwQvayOsNlCe1+VhXVQ7wYaR4a Lp10xDgfVNBerZoyqmC5NYMwiN7CyQxF4RXObVP4nTKVaO/7JJ5PMDHyu2hLDFZi SEl4o+EnC6y0yN54ZTctxx+P6UUC4qA6e2+tTCji5+n7cBN/Sk4IADq9JMHBjUOp UNXwynNDnmo= =Dq60 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 09:37:44 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA24913 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:37:44 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA24907 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:37:42 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA15833 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:32:39 -0700 Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.18.7]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA04817; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:19:59 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA18626; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:19:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:19:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199506071519.RAA18626@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users), joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Subject: perl[45] (Re: sup is fetching whole src tree) In-Reply-To: <199506040750.JAA26622@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <199506040346.UAA18045@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> <199506040750.JAA26622@uriah.heep.sax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Try: $ perl4 -cw foo.perl $ perl5 -cw foo.perl -c causes perl to check the syntax of the script and then exit without executing it. -w prints warnings about identifiers that are mentioned only once, and scalar variables that are used before being set. Also warns about redefined subroutines, and references to undefined filehandles or filehandles opened readonly that you are attempting to write on. Also warns you if you use == on values that don't look like numbers, and if your subroutines recurse more than 100 deep. Wolfram J. Wunsch writes: >As Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> >> > While you're at it, how about making our custom version perl 5 clean? >> >> I am *NOT* a perl hacker, I can just scrap by fixing broken things. That >> and can it be made to be both perl 4.136 and 5.0 clean? Remeber, FreeFall >> runs releases, not the cutting edge, and the release is and will be for >> some time at perl 4.136. > >Should be possible. Perl 5 has some syntax extensions, e.g. an >unquoted @ within a "" string is now expanded; fixed scripts (that do >not use the extensions, but take care of them) should be backwards >compatible to Perl 4 however. > >I've been told that the perl 5 compiler gives a detailed error message. >I don't have perl 5 by now, so please don't ask me... (yet). From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 7 20:23:03 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA29465 for current-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:23:03 -0700 Received: from penzance.econ.yale.edu (root@penzance.econ.yale.edu [130.132.32.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA29459 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:23:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: -Vince- To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Pete Carah , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-* mailing lists (Was Re: SUP server down?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, -Vince- wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, what did you change? > > > > > > bulk_mailer expects to get clean addresses with no extraneous > > > material. i added a '-m' flag to strip this material so it can use > > > majordomo list files directly, if needed. > > > > > > added a '-S' to limit the number of sendmail processes (needs testing) > > > > > > added a '-N' to limit the number of hosts per envelope (needs testing) > > > > > > comments as i figured out what was happening in each function > > > > > > comment at the top of all non-trivial functions to doc their behavior > > > > > > that's all i remember of the top of my head. > > > > > > > Hmmm, okay, any chance of making the modified one available since > > your headers don't have that warning line that mines has ;) > > > > > be glad to, but i want to clean it up a little. finish testing, > and provide the changes to the author of teh original code. Oh okay, let everyone know when it's available :-) Cheers, -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 8 11:45:32 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA23416 for current-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:45:32 -0700 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA23409 ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:45:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:45:32 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199506081845.LAA23409@freefall.cdrom.com> To: current, ports Subject: daVinci port Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In the few hours left, can I get someone to test out the daVinci port in freefall:pub/incoming/experimental/daVinci? Jeffrey The interactive Graph Visualization System daVinci V1.4 ======================================================= Michael Froehlich, Mattias Werner, University of Bremen daVinci is a universal, generic visualization system for generating high- quality drawings of directed graphs. Graphs are frequently applied in computer applications as a general data structure for representing objects and relationships between them. They are used to implement hierarchies, dependencies, networks, configurations, dataflows, etc. Although graph visualization is accepted as indispensable for many domains, the use of this technique is not very common in today's computer applications. Frequently, a user has to deal with uncomfortable textual interfaces or poor ad-hoc drawings of graphs. The reason for this deficit is the great effort to implement a satisfying graph layout. In software development projects there is often a lack of personnel resources or money to realize these "auxiliary features". Furthermore, flexible and powerful graph visualization tools, which are reusable and easy to integrate with applications, are hard to find. These facts were the motivation for developing the interactive graph visualization system daVinci. The primary aim was to create a universal system that could be used by arbitrary applications as a user interface to display directed graphs in many different visualization styles. One fundamental concept of daVinci is the separation from an application that is using the visualization system as a user interface for graphs. The connected program is exclusively responsible for controlling the graph structure, and the only task of the visualization system is to display this graph on the screen. So daVinci is different from conventional graph editors, because the system is not able to alter the graph structure directly by itself. Each modification must be done by the application which controls the development of a graph. For this purpose, an application interface is provided for bidirectional communication with the connected program. An application, using this communication mechanism, can provide the user a powerful graphical user interface for directed graphs without implementing visualization techniques and layout algorithms. Furthermore, the user has full control to the application by interacting with the visualization of a graph: Clicking on a node and selecting a menu in daVinci may trigger an operation in the connected application. The most important features of daVinci V1.4 are: - Automatic layout for hierarchical representations of directed graphs with edge crossing minimization and bend reduction. - Support for cyclic graphs and graphs with multiple edges. - Alternative layout method for optimal representations of trees. - Interactive fine-tuning operations for layout customization. - Many attributes for nodes and edges available (e.g. setting colors, patterns, shapes, text, fonts, etc.). - Icons available for using any kind of image (in X11-bitmap format) for drawing graph nodes. - Interactive abstractions (e.g. collapsing subgraphs, hiding edges). - High-quality scaling to any rate without losing the interactive capabilities. - PostScript interface for printing and exporting visualizations. - Application interface for connecting an arbitrary program which generates graphs and controls their development. The interface provides commands for sending graphs, adding menus to daVinci's user interface, starting dialogues with the user, activating visualization operations, etc. On the other side, the application is informed about user events in daVinci such as selection of nodes, edges or menus. - Interactive graph editor available. This separate program can be connected to daVinci's application interface. daVinci is developed by the Institute for Formal Methods in Software- Engineering at the University of Bremen, Germany, since the end of 1992. The authors are Michael Froehlich and Mattias Werner. daVinci is written in the pure functional language ASpecT, developed at the University of Bremen also. The OPEN LOOKTM compliant user interface of daVinci is implemented in C using the window toolkit XView. As a result of the surprising worldwide approval, daVinci is now a widely used system for visualization of graphs. More than 500 educational and commercial sites all over the world are already using the tool. The system is available free of charge for non-profit use and can be downloaded from several ftp servers in Europe, North America, Japan and Australia. daVinci is an OPEN LOOK program, available for Sun SPARCstations (with SunOS 4.1.x and Solaris 2.x), HP 9000 workstations (with HP-UX), IBM RS6000 workstations, or PC's (with Linux or FreeBSD). Ports to other UNIX platforms are possible, but not available at this time. The system can be downloaded together with the documentation, manual pages, examples and tools by anonymous ftp from: ftp.Uni-Bremen.DE (134.102.228.2) in directory: /pub/graphics/daVinci The daVinci project is very interested in your opinion and experiences with the system. Reports about existing applications of daVinci, suggestions for new features and even criticisms are very welcome. You can contact the authors by sending an e-mail to daVinci@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 8 13:30:12 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA26806 for current-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:30:12 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26757 ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:29:56 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA08619 ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:29:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Jeffrey Hsu cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com, ports@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: daVinci port In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Jun 1995 11:45:32 PDT." <199506081845.LAA23409@freefall.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 13:29:54 -0700 Message-ID: <8617.802643394@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199506081845.LAA23409@freefall.cdrom.com>, Jeffrey Hsu writes: >In the few hours left, can I get someone to test out the daVinci port in >freefall:pub/incoming/experimental/daVinci? [...] >already using the tool. The system is available free of charge for non-profit >use and can be downloaded from several ftp servers in Europe, North America, >Japan and Australia. Seeing as this is going to be put on the CDROM, can you please verify they don't mind us doing this, or we'll have to delete it. Sorry! Gary From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 8 13:47:45 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA27588 for current-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:47:45 -0700 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA27573 ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:47:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:47:43 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199506082047.NAA27573@freefall.cdrom.com> To: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com, hsu@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: daVinci port Cc: current@freefall.cdrom.com, ports@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >already using the tool. The system is available free of charge for non-profit Seeing as this is going to be put on the CDROM, can you please verify they don't mind us doing this, or we'll have to delete it. Sorry! I've already checked and it's okay. In fact, the guy wants to get a FreeBSD CDROM when it comes out. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 9 15:16:50 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA06655 for current-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 15:16:50 -0700 Received: from bigdipper.iagi.net (bigdipper.iagi.net [198.6.14.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA06621 ; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 15:16:45 -0700 Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.iagi.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA04184; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 18:17:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 18:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, help@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SLIP help! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hey all - sorry to post to so many lists, but I'm having some _very_strange_ problems with my SLIP dialup users ever since I upgraded our box from 1.1.5.1. Config: ASUS SP3G, 40mb RAM, NCR SCSI, 2.1gigs (Quantum Empire), ATI Mach32 video, BOCA 2016 16port serial board. Machine's primary function is terminal service, name service, WWW service. No problems with 1.1.5.1 on this box. Have 6 14.4 modems and 2 28.8 modems on the Bocaboard. Here are the symptoms: 1. Dialup (non SLIP but on same modem lines as SLIP users) still works perfectly. 2. SLIP works fine for some users and doesn't for others. There is _no_ connection whatsoever between configs for people that it works for and for people that it doesn't. Some users dial in, log in with their slip login id (which has /usr/sbin/sliplogin as their login shell) and all is great. Some users dial in, login as their SLIP id, SLIP _appears_ to be up, but they can't see the net, and the net can't see them (ping). Again, there is nothing I can tell that is different for the people that it works for and the people that it doesn't. One of the users for whom it doesn't work is logged in right now, /var/run/utmp tells me they're logged in -"w" reports they're logged in and their login shell is sliplogin - e.g. 6:11PM up 5:33, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.08, 0.07 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT slipuser d2 - 5:52PM 19 -sliplogin (sliplogin) adhir p0 machine 5:42PM - w -n When I ping that user's machine, I get the following: [bigdipper:~] ping machine PING machine (198.6.14.52): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Network dropped connection on reset ping: wrote newsusa.com 64 chars, ret=-1 Strangely enough, for a short while after this user first logged in, I couldn't ping them (I got the above error), but I could telnet to their machine on port 25 (they're running an SMTP mailer). VERY strange. A few minutes later I could neither ping nor telnet. Here are my relevent config files: /etc/sliphome/slip.login ------------------------ #!/bin/sh - # # @(#)slip.login 5.1 (Berkeley) 7/1/90 # # generic login file for a slip line. sliplogin invokes this with # the parameters: # 1 2 3 4 5 6 7-n # slipunit ttyspeed loginname local-addr remote-addr mask opt-args # /sbin/ifconfig sl$1 inet $4 $5 netmask $6 -trailers /sbin/route add $5 $4 /usr/sbin/arp -s $5 00:00:c0:3a:aa:54 pub exit /etc/sliphome/slip.hosts ------------------------ slip01 bigdipper slip01 0xffffff00 autocomp slip02 bigdipper slip02 0xffffff00 autocomp adslip bigdipper machine 0xffffff00 autocomp ttslip bigdipper bigtime 0xffffff00 autocomp anslip bigdipper holmes 0xffffff00 autocomp coslip bigdipper cyberad 0xffffff00 autocomp mcslip bigdipper graphic 0xffffff00 autocomp poslip bigdipper postal 0xffffff00 autocomp dmslip bigdipper dmdesign 0xffffff00 autocomp crcoslip bigdipper jzaklow 0xffffff00 autocomp newsusa bigdipper 198.6.14.121 0xffffff00 autocomp gilslip bigdipper 198.6.14.202 0xffffff00 autocomp All slip users' login shells are /usr/sbin/sliplogin. HELP! Alok K. Dhir Internet Access Group, Inc. adhir@iagi.net (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 http://www.iagi.net From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 10 08:09:01 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA15285 for current-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 08:09:01 -0700 Received: from bigdipper.iagi.net (bigdipper.iagi.net [198.6.14.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA15279 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 08:08:58 -0700 Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.iagi.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00327; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 11:08:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 11:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I just got this panic... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On a -current (6/06) kernel, I just got this panic: Jun 10 11:06:21 bigdipper /kernel: panic: vm_object_deallocate: object deallocat ed too many times Jun 10 11:06:22 bigdipper /kernel: Jun 10 11:06:22 bigdipper /kernel: syncing disks... 2 2 done Any ideas? Alok K. Dhir Internet Access Group, Inc. adhir@iagi.net (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 http://www.iagi.net From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 10 10:50:45 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA18157 for current-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:50:45 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA18151 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:50:42 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA10765; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:54:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA17924; Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:50:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199506101750.KAA17924@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Alok K. Dhir" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I just got this panic... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jun 95 11:08:51 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:50:53 -0700 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >On a -current (6/06) kernel, I just got this panic: > >Jun 10 11:06:21 bigdipper /kernel: panic: vm_object_deallocate: object >deallocat >ed too many times >Jun 10 11:06:22 bigdipper /kernel: >Jun 10 11:06:22 bigdipper /kernel: syncing disks... 2 2 done > >Any ideas? As I just said to someone else about this same topic... If this happend on an NFS server, the problem has been fixed. If it happend on an NFS client, I'm still working on it. -DG