From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 06:53:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA14485 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 06:53:20 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA14480 ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 06:53:10 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA01163; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:53:00 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA05074; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:52:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199510011352.PAA05074@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: tcsh 'make install' is broken for stable Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 15:52:59 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am sure I saw this fixed, but it is not working on a 2-day old -stable system... (the nls/* directories are not made...) M ===> tcsh Checksums OK. ===> Installing for tcsh-6.06 mv -f /usr/local/bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/tcsh.old cp tcsh /usr/local/bin/tcsh strip /usr/local/bin/tcsh chmod 555 /usr/local/bin/tcsh rm -f /usr/local/man/man1/tcsh.1 cp tcsh.man /usr/local/man/man1/tcsh.1 chmod 444 /usr/local/man/man1/tcsh.1 chown bin.bin /usr/local/bin/tcsh chown bin.bin /usr/local/man/man1/tcsh.1 cd /home/ports/shells/tcsh/work/tcsh-6.06; install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 tcsh.C.cat /usr/local/share/nls/C/tcsh.cat cd /home/ports/shells/tcsh/work/tcsh-6.06; install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 tcsh.french.cat /usr/local/share/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat install: /usr/local/share/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 07:30:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA15616 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 07:30:53 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA15611 ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 07:30:50 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA21020; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 07:29:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA00404; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 07:30:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199510011430.HAA00404@corbin.Root.COM> To: Mark Murray cc: current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcsh 'make install' is broken for stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Oct 95 15:52:59 +0200." <199510011352.PAA05074@grumble.grondar.za> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 07:30:43 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I am sure I saw this fixed, but it is not working on a 2-day old -stable >system... > >(the nls/* directories are not made...) This is going to be a problem. The font names have *not* been changed to be RFC1700 compliant like they were in -current. I didn't bring in those changes because several people told me that I shouldn't. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 10:25:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA20394 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 10:25:19 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA20389 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 10:25:17 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA22062; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:25:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:25:09 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510011725.AA22062@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile In-Reply-To: <9673.812421765@time.cdrom.com> References: <199509292105.XAA22916@grumble.grondar.za> <9673.812421765@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Registry! Registry! > Would you like to see everything from .emacs to .fvwmrc *go away*? No. > Would you like to see an end to the question of how an arbitrary port > stores its startup configuration and/or adds itself to the list of > apps started at boot time? Yes. > Would you like to be able to find out, at a glance, just what version > of a given piece of software (or entire subsystem) you were running? Yes. > Would you like to see sysctl() done CORRECTLY? It already /is/ done correctly. Perhaps you mean `something like sysctl(3) but done the way Jordan wants'? -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 10:44:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA20655 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 10:44:18 -0700 Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA20645 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 10:44:07 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00199; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:44:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:44:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: current@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI and current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just built a kernel from current (src-cur.1031.gz) and it boots fine until it gets to the scsi portion: FreeBSD 2.2-\M^?#0: Sun Oct 1 13:16:46 EDT 1995 root@tippy.vnet.net:/usr/share/src/src/sys/compile/TIPPY CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14757888 (14412K bytes) //...stuff deleted ide drive stuff included just in case it matters wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 520MB (1065456 sectors), 1057 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 515MB (1056384 sectors), 1048 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 325MB (666600 sectors), 1010 cyls, 12 heads, 55 S/T, 512 B/S //...more deleted Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 pci0:18: Adaptec, device=0x7178, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] Death - automatic reboot time:'( But with a kernel built with the current from around this time: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #0: Mon Sep 25 01:03:55 EDT 1995 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ works fine: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 ahc0: 2940 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 16 SCBs (ahc0:0:0): "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6226" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1041MB (2131992 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 3457 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 102 sectors/track (ahc0:1:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:501 2.5" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:1:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 cd0(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable can't get the size Since / lives on sd0a I boot like: hd(3,a)/kernel Is this something bad or do I need to do something on my end?????? Thanx! chris ========================================================================== We must overcome conventional values in order to live creatively; the established values of society were invented by the weak to enable them to triumph over the strong. REBEL!! Toss Windows 95, install FreeBSD today! ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 11:28:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21898 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:32 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21889 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:29 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00492; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:14 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510011828.LAA00492@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: SCSI and current To: root@tippy.vnet.net (Chris Madison) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Madison" at Oct 1, 95 01:44:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3105 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I just built a kernel from current (src-cur.1031.gz) and it boots fine > until it gets to the scsi portion: > > FreeBSD 2.2-\M^?#0: Sun Oct 1 13:16:46 EDT 1995 > root@tippy.vnet.net:/usr/share/src/src/sys/compile/TIPPY > CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 > Features=0x1bf > real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) > avail memory = 14757888 (14412K bytes) > //...stuff deleted ide drive stuff included just in case it matters Where any of these devices on irq 10 or irq 11? > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 520MB (1065456 sectors), 1057 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): > wd1: 515MB (1056384 sectors), 1048 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 325MB (666600 sectors), 1010 cyls, 12 heads, 55 S/T, 512 B/S > //...more deleted > Probing for devices on the PCI bus: > chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 > chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 > vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 > pci0:18: Adaptec, device=0x7178, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] > > Death - automatic reboot time:'( I have seen this when you have an isa device that was probed before the PCI stuff and used the irq of the last card probed. I'll guess that you have an ISA card on irq 10 :-). > But with a kernel built with the current from around this time: > > FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #0: Mon Sep 25 01:03:55 EDT 1995 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > works fine: > > Probing for devices on the PCI bus: > chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 > chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 > vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 > ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 > ahc0: 2940 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 16 SCBs > (ahc0:0:0): "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6226" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1041MB (2131992 512 byte sectors) > sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 3457 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 102 sectors/track > (ahc0:1:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:501 2.5" type 5 removable SCSI 2 > cd0(ahc0:1:0): CD-ROM > cd0(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 > cd0(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable > can't get the size > > Since / lives on sd0a I boot like: hd(3,a)/kernel > > Is this something bad or do I need to do something on my end?????? > > Thanx! > chris > ========================================================================== > We must overcome conventional values in order to live creatively; the > established values of society were invented by the weak to enable them to > triumph over the strong. REBEL!! Toss Windows 95, install FreeBSD today! > ========================================================================== > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 11:28:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA21917 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:36 -0700 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA21895 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 11:28:32 -0700 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA07079 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Sun, 1 Oct 1995 21:26:23 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sun, 1 Oct 95 21:26:23 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA00606; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 21:24:03 +0300 To: current@freebsd.org Cc: Bruce Evans Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 21:24:03 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: How to add new swap partition? (prob. subj. for FAQ) Lines: 14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 712 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I make yet one partition on my disk and even change its ID to A5 using disk editor (from DOS), but when I attempt to add it for swap, I got "device not configured" from swapon. disklabel says: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument too. Why kernel not make fake label for it from partition info? (I don't want to calculate all label parameters). What is proper commads sequence for adding swap partition? Thanx in advance. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 13:42:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA28364 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:42:09 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28355 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:42:03 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA23971; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 06:39:03 +1000 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 06:39:03 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510012039.GAA23971@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@astral.msk.su, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to add new swap partition? (prob. subj. for FAQ) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I make yet one partition on my disk and even change its ID to A5 using >disk editor (from DOS), >but when I attempt to add it for swap, I got "device not configured" >from swapon. >disklabel says: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument too. >Why kernel not make fake label for it from partition info? It seemed like a good idea to provide as few fake labels as possible. There is one for the whole disk giving a geometry no more are strictly required. One problem is that the fake label would have to become non-fake as soon as it is written. >What is proper commads sequence for adding swap partition? To turn a slice into a swap partition, write a label to the slice and set up a b (swap) partition as usual. Changing the ID to A5 is optional. Changing the ID mainly stops other OS's from using the slice but you probably want swap slices to be shared. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 13:54:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA28965 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:54:23 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28960 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:54:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA24238; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 13:54:07 -0700 To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Oct 1995 13:25:09 EDT." <9510011725.AA22062@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 13:54:07 -0700 Message-ID: <24236.812580847@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Would you like to see everything from .emacs to .fvwmrc *go away*? > > No. Given that Garrett isn't much focused on applications side, I already assumed "no" there. :) > It already /is/ done correctly. Perhaps you mean `something like > sysctl(3) but done the way Jordan wants'? Ordinary users can write variables? User or group local variables can shadow system ones? Not new ideas, not even my ideas. A proper registry would have to allow that and I'd see sysctl() as being simply folded into it. Why have two parallel mechanisms? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 15:09:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA03845 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:09:59 -0700 Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03837 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:09:54 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA00784; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 18:09:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 18:09:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and current In-Reply-To: <199510011828.LAA00492@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Where any of these devices on irq 10 or irq 11? > > vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 > > pci0:18: Adaptec, device=0x7178, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] Both irq 10 and 11 are used by pci devices. The video card is a diamond stealth video vram pci card (irq 10) and on irq 11 is the Adaptec 2940. None of the isa cards are on either irq 10 or 11. The closest isa card is the gusmax at irq 9, which I _hope_ isn't a problem since 9 is about one of the only places I could stuff it in at:-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 1 22:42:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA17462 for current-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:42:12 -0700 Received: from netcom16.netcom.com (root@netcom16.netcom.com [192.100.81.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA17456 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:42:10 -0700 Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA12980; Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:34:00 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 22:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom16 To: FreeBSD current Subject: please ignore pine fixes mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk please ignore two messages about pine fixes that were sent by me having trouble with os/2 mail program sorry Manfred ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 647-4843 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 02:55:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29815 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 02:55:57 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA29804 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 02:55:48 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <29956-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:55:40 +1000 Received: by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) id TAA05174; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:11:52 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Message-Id: <199510020911.TAA05174@pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: syssgm@devetir.qld.gov.au Subject: /kernel: biodone: buffer already done Date: Mon, 02 Oct 95 19:11:51 EST Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk My memory starved test box has thrown up this: Oct 2 15:10:26 stupid /kernel: biodone: buffer already done Oct 2 15:10:27 stupid /kernel: biodone: buffer already done This is presumably why I've got a hanging 'mv' process: UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 149 148 109 -18 5 300 12 objtrm DN p0 0:00.22 mv /tmp/_depend148 .depend The source of the mv is on local disk, the target on an NFS mounted disk. The kernel is current as of 1995-10-01 21:48:06 (src-cur 1032). The kernel of the previous day spontaneously rebooted frequently, but I think that one has been found and fixed already. Have a nice day! Stephen. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 03:10:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA01188 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 03:10:29 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA01180 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 03:10:25 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA00200; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 03:08:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA04445; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 03:10:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199510021010.DAA04445@corbin.Root.COM> To: Stephen McKay cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /kernel: biodone: buffer already done In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Oct 95 19:11:51 EST." <199510020911.TAA05174@pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 03:10:15 -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >My memory starved test box has thrown up this: > >Oct 2 15:10:26 stupid /kernel: biodone: buffer already done >Oct 2 15:10:27 stupid /kernel: biodone: buffer already done This is a "known" problem. It's apparantly caused by inadequate vnode locking in the NFS code and the result is a race condition which then causes the above. > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND > 0 149 148 109 -18 5 300 12 objtrm DN p0 0:00.22 mv /tmp/_depend148 .depend ^^^^^^ Yep, that's another symptom of the bug. We'll hopefully get this fixed soon. -DG From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 07:46:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA28145 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:46:19 -0700 Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.35.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA28127 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:46:16 -0700 Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA16259; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:46:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:46:15 -0500 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199510021446.JAA16259@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Pci bus timing problems Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) > "Re: Pci bus timing problems" (Sep 28, 21:19) > Well, you might try to remove the outb(,0x0e): > > oldval = inl (CONF1_ADDR_PORT); > outl (CONF1_ADDR_PORT, CONF1_ENABLE_CHK); > /* outb (CONF2_ENABLE_PORT, CONF2_ENABLE_CHK);*/ > mode1res = inl(CONF1_ADDR_PORT); > mode2res = 0xff /*inb(CONF2_ENABLE_PORT)*/; > outl (CONF1_ADDR_PORT, oldval); > > And retry this modified 1.15 code (it can't stay > that way, since then mechanism 2 boards rely on the > outb() to be probed correctly !). > I am starting to think that this isn't pcibus.c related. I tried booting the kernel with this fix and it worked. I then wanted to try and see if a 1.15 pcibus.c would fail. It worked just fine, no errors, everything seemed to go just fine. Video capture was working, sound was working, life was good again :-). I was a little curious as to why the change from pcibus 1.14 -> 1.15 didn't work last week, but worked this week. Then I moved the mouse into an xterm window and I got the dreaded sig 11 and my xterm window went away. I just resupped up a new kernel (mine was a few days old) and I am recompiling the kernel as well as a make world (which was also a few days old). This should take most of the day. -Jim From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 08:34:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA01804 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:34:50 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA01797 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:34:42 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA04486 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:33:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199510021533.AA04486@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:33:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: Chris Madison "SCSI and current" (Oct 1, 13:44) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Chris Madison Subject: Re: SCSI and current Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Oct 1, 13:44, Chris Madison wrote: } Subject: SCSI and current } } I just built a kernel from current (src-cur.1031.gz) and it boots fine } until it gets to the scsi portion: } } FreeBSD 2.2-\M^?#0: Sun Oct 1 13:16:46 EDT 1995 } root@tippy.vnet.net:/usr/share/src/src/sys/compile/TIPPY } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: } chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 } chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 } vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 } pci0:18: Adaptec, device=0x7178, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] You seem to somehow have disabled the Adaptec 2940 driver (ahc0 ?) ... The vendor and device ID have been detected correctly, but no driver has shown any interest in dealing with that device :) } Death - automatic reboot time:'( } } But with a kernel built with the current from around this time: } } FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #0: Mon Sep 25 01:03:55 EDT 1995 } ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ } works fine: } } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: } chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 } chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 } vga0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 } ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 } Is this something bad or do I need to do something on my end?????? Please check your kernel config file, and rebuild your kernel for device ahc0 being defined and try again. Let me know, if this doesn't work. The default GUS interrupt vector has been changed to 11, according to some recent commit message. You may want to build a kernel without audio support, in case you have it configured in currently ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 08:34:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA01816 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:34:53 -0700 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA01798 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:34:42 -0700 Received: from ugen (ugen-tr.worldbank.org [138.220.101.58]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07287; for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 11:34:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 95 11:33:24 PDT From: "Ugen J.S.Antsilevich" Subject: Probably stupid question.. To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! This is simple but i really don't know : how do i view and how do i edit theese sgml files? --Ugen From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 13:14:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA20247 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:14:49 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA20236 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:14:42 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA09018; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 06:12:36 +1000 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 06:12:36 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510022012.GAA09018@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ville@vlsi.fi Subject: Re: kern/760: mv foo/ ../.. causes panic Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Executing the following commands cause panic: >descent% mkdir foo >descent% mv foo/ ../.. >This results: >panic: relookup: lookup on dot-dot >It appears that mv tries to rename foo/ to ../../ which would cause bad >things to happen if succesful. There seem to be several bugs. First, /bin/mv is confused by the trailing slash on "foo/" and attempts to do a rename("foo/", "../../") when it should do a rename("foo/", "../../foo/"). Second, ufs_rename() thinks that the target directory (".." here, unless ".." is the root directory) can never be ".." but this example shows that the assumption is invalid. Third, the bug was masked in versions of FreeBSD before 2.1-stable because rename("foo/", "../../") fails earlier for the wrong reason (because of the trailing slash). 2.0.5 panics for the variant rename("foo", "../..") but /bin/mv would never generate this. Fix: in the kernel, it seems best to handle renaming to "../.." the same as renaming to ".." and return ENOTEMPTY. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 15:55:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA29296 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:21 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29291 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:18 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA22715 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:49:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510022249.PAA22715@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: NFS server problems To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:49:40 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1064 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've discovered a problem in the VFS server code, specifically with the nfsrv_create() function in the NFSV3CREATE_GUARDED case. The error code is set to EEXIST, but since the nd.ni_vp is non-NULL, it falls through to the "truncate existing file" case instead of actually returning that error. The error code is actually overridden by an access check which (apparently) does not take "read only" into account and subsequently truncates the file to the requested size (if that is not -1). Instead one would expect it to return EEXIST, the error code set, and skip subsequent operations in the create routine. There are also some VOP_ABORTOP ordering issues that aren't critical if the NFS server is exporting a UFS dile system, but which might be an issue for a non-UFS file system. The abort operation should take place before namidata structure contents are touched. Can someone sanity check me on these two things? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 16:57:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA01386 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:57:33 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA01378 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:57:31 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA22795 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:51:58 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510022351.QAA22795@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Another NFS server problem To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 16:51:58 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 616 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Apparently, nfssrv_mkdir doesn't realize that a nfs_namei with nameiop of CREATE causes the underlying file system to imply a SAVENAME flag when the terminal compoenent is reached. Therefore a failed mkdir will result in a MALLOC of cn_pnbuf in nfs_namei() that is never freed. The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. I'm very glad I'm making these side effect semantics more explicit. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 17:07:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA02419 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:07:44 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA02412 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:07:40 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA22838; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:01:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510030001.RAA22838@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Another NFS server problem To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:01:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510022351.QAA22795@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 2, 95 04:51:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 709 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Apparently, nfssrv_mkdir doesn't realize that a nfs_namei with nameiop > of CREATE causes the underlying file system to imply a SAVENAME flag > when the terminal compoenent is reached. Therefore a failed mkdir > will result in a MALLOC of cn_pnbuf in nfs_namei() that is never freed. > > The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, > leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. The same failure mode exists for nfsrv_link(). > I'm very glad I'm making these side effect semantics more explicit. Now I'm very, very glad. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 2 17:26:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA04490 for current-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:26:34 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04484 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:26:30 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA24368 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:20:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510030020.RAA24368@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: more NFS woes To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 17:20:54 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 244 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone else find it odd that nqnfsrv_vacated() can only return EPERM and its return value isn't checked? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 00:26:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA24499 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:26:12 -0700 Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA24429 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:24:33 -0700 Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA01534 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:21:05 +0200 From: John Hay Message-Id: <199510030721.JAA01534@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: stable panics while backup to ncr->DAT To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:21:05 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5499 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a 100MHz Pentium with an ASUS motherboard (Sis chipset). The machine is running a small news feed, a web server and is a ftp site. It has the latest 2.1-stable as from ctm yesterday. There is normally no problems, everything is working fine. The machine has been running for a few weeks now. It is only when trying to make backups to the DAT tape that I often get problems. I would guess about 8 out 10 backups will end in a kernel panic. It seems that there is an error with the tape and while handling that the ncr code does a read to 0. Maybe just to make thing clear. The problem did not start now, it started when I got the EXABYTE DAT a few weeks ago. I had 2.0.5 running on the machine then, but got lots of problems with the DAT. I saw that there were some fixes to the NCR code and decided to try stable on that machine. It is better now because I can sometimes get the backup to go right through, while previously it would die with the first access to the tape. Below is the boot probe messages, then a cutout of "nm /kernel | sort | more" and then the error and panic message. -- John Hay -- John.Hay@csir.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Booting sd(0,a)/kernel @ 0x100000 text=0x8e000 data=0xb000 bss=0x9f54 symbols=[+0xac+0x4+0xa9e0+0x4+0xb1a5] total=0x1b8b8d entry point=0x100000 BIOS basemem (635K) != RTC basemem (640K) Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #1: Mon Oct 2 20:18:27 SAT 1995 jhay@callisto.cids.org.za:/usr/src/sys/compile/CALLISTO CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31559680 (30820K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 0 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:1 de0 rev 35 int a irq 15 on pci0:9 de0: DC21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 Ethernet address 00:00:e8:0d:93:69 de0: enabling Thinwire/AUI port ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 ncr0: restart (scsi reset). ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 (V2 pl22 95/07/07) (ncr0:0:0): "FUJITSU M2934S-512 0103" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 4153MB (8506782 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:6:0): "EXABYTE EXB-4200c 217" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ncr0:6:0): Sequential-Access st0(ncr0:6:0): 200ns (5 Mb/sec) offset 8. density code 0x13, drive empty pci0:13: CMD, device=0x640, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. swapon: adding /dev/sd0s1b as swap device f0141fa4 t _ncr_init f0142194 t _ncr_negotiate f0142260 t _ncr_setsync f014242c t _ncr_setwide f0142558 t _ncr_setmaxtags f014258c t _ncr_settags f01425e8 t _ncr_usercmd f01427c0 t _ncr_timeout f0142b28 t _ncr_exception <------ f0142f40 t _ncr_int_sto f0143160 t _ncr_int_ma f014347c t _ncr_show_msg f01436b4 t _ncr_int_sir f0143c94 t _ncr_get_ccb Tue Oct 3 07:23:39 SAT 1995 ncr0 targ 6?: ERROR (0:110) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (ed0:180003b0). reg: da 10 80 13 47 88 6 1f 3 8 86 28 0 60 0 0. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0142d8f code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio panic: page fault syncing disks... ncr0 targ 6?: ERROR (0:101) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (ed0:180003b0). reg: da 10 80 13 47 88 6 1f 3 8 86 28 0 60 0 0. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0142d8f code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio panic: page fault dumping to dev 20401, offset 131072 dump ncr0 targ 6?: ERROR (0:101) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (ed0:180003b0). reg: da 10 80 13 47 88 6 1f 3 8 86 28 0 60 0 0. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0142d8f code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio panic: page fault dumping to dev 20401, offset 131072 dump device not ready Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 08:51:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA07305 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:51:50 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA07299 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:51:42 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA22650; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 01:49:51 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 01:49:51 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510031549.BAA22650@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: Another NFS server problem Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Apparently, nfssrv_mkdir doesn't realize that a nfs_namei with nameiop >of CREATE causes the underlying file system to imply a SAVENAME flag >when the terminal compoenent is reached. Therefore a failed mkdir >will result in a MALLOC of cn_pnbuf in nfs_namei() that is never freed. >The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, >leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. nfssrv_mkdir doesn't seem to be reached in that case. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 11:18:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14748 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:18:21 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14743 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:18:19 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA00761 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:12:45 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01544; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:11:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510031811.LAA01544@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Another NFS server problem To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:11:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org In-Reply-To: <199510031549.BAA22650@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Oct 4, 95 01:49:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 648 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >Apparently, nfssrv_mkdir doesn't realize that a nfs_namei with nameiop > >of CREATE causes the underlying file system to imply a SAVENAME flag > >when the terminal compoenent is reached. Therefore a failed mkdir > >will result in a MALLOC of cn_pnbuf in nfs_namei() that is never freed. > > >The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, > >leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. > > nfssrv_mkdir doesn't seem to be reached in that case. Try it from a PC. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 11:19:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14802 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:19:17 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA14795 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:19:12 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA28720 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:18:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199510031818.AA28720@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:18:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: John Hay "stable panics while backup to ncr->DAT" (Oct 3, 9:21) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: John Hay Subject: Re: stable panics while backup to ncr->DAT Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Oct 3, 9:21, John Hay wrote: } Subject: stable panics while backup to ncr->DAT } Hi, } } I have a 100MHz Pentium with an ASUS motherboard (Sis chipset). The machine } is running a small news feed, a web server and is a ftp site. It has the } latest 2.1-stable as from ctm yesterday. There is normally no problems, } everything is working fine. The machine has been running for a few weeks now. } } It is only when trying to make backups to the DAT tape that I often get } problems. I would guess about 8 out 10 backups will end in a kernel panic. } It seems that there is an error with the tape and while handling that the } ncr code does a read to 0. Don't understand that ? What does "read to 0" mean ? (Do you mean the dereferencing of a NULL pointer by the exception handler code that deals with a unspecific error condition ??) } Maybe just to make thing clear. The problem did not start now, it started } when I got the EXABYTE DAT a few weeks ago. I had 2.0.5 running on the } machine then, but got lots of problems with the DAT. I saw that there were } some fixes to the NCR code and decided to try stable on that machine. It } is better now because I can sometimes get the backup to go right through, } while previously it would die with the first access to the tape. Please send the error messages resulting from such an access! This looks like some compatibility problem, that I'll have to look at ... If you had 2.0.5R running, then you probably just needed a one line fix (QUIRK_NOMSG must be set for your DAT, and has become the default even for devices that don't need it, since it does no harm ...). The NCR driver in FreeBSD-current has some fixes, that did not get applied to 2.1. Your best bet is to rebuild your 2.1 kernel with /sys/pci/ncr.c from FreeBSD-current for that reason ... } Below is the boot probe messages, then a cutout of "nm /kernel | sort | more" } and then the error and panic message. } f01427c0 t _ncr_timeout } f0142b28 t _ncr_exception <------ } f0142f40 t _ncr_int_sto This is a known problem in the ncr exception handler, which has been fixed in FreeBSD-current some time ago. (The exception handler tries to print some information, but can dereference an invalid pointer in certain situations.) } Tue Oct 3 07:23:39 SAT 1995 } ncr0 targ 6?: ERROR (0:110) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (ed0:180003b0). dstat: 0 = dma fifo NOT empty, no other error condition sist: 0x110 = handshake timeout (+ reselected by another device) socl: 0x28 = ATN sicl: 0x08 = BSY + ATN ed0: data_in + 86 There has been a handshake timeout while transferring data from the EXABYTE to the NCR. This seems to be in a reselection phase (there has already been some data transferred, according to the data_in+86 position of the NCR instruction pointer). } syncing disks... ncr0 targ 6?: ERROR (0:101) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (ed0:180003b0). dstat: 0 sist: 0x101 = handshake timeout + scsi parity error This really looks like a cable problem to me ... Have seen something like that before a number of times, with Sparc and DEC boxes that had FAST SCSI and tapes on one SCSI bus. Seems that accesses to only one device at a time hardly ever fail, but if you have a high SCSI load using devices simultanously, such random failures occur ... Please check your complete SCSI setup: Cables (length and quality) and terminators are the most common cause of the kind of problem you describe. You may want to try # ncrcontrol -s async to disable synchronous transfers for some tests. # ncrcontrol -s sync=4 may be an even better test, since the NCR uses some glitch suppression logic when operating at synchronous transfer rates of up to 5MHz. (If I remember right, it can go beyond 5MHz doing asynchronous transfers!) -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 11:30:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA15313 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:30:48 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA15307 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:30:41 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01642; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:29:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510031829.LAA01642@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: FS PATCHES To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:29:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@phaeton.artisoft.com (Terry Lambert) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 464 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Did anyone get my FS patches README I posted to the current & hackers lists? The posting concerned fixes for the layering violations and some error conditions that I fixed and would be rolling a patch set against -current later this week. I didn't, and I'm wondering why... Can anyone forward it to me if they did get it? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 12:21:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA17266 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 12:21:26 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA17252 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 12:21:20 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id FAA27887; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 05:17:47 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 05:17:47 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510031917.FAA27887@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: Another NFS server problem Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> >The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, >> >leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. >> >> nfssrv_mkdir doesn't seem to be reached in that case. >Try it from a PC. What would a PC client do differently from a FreeBSD (nfsv3) client? Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 13:11:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA19461 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:11:04 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA19452 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:11:00 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA01892; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:09:12 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510032009.NAA01892@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Another NFS server problem To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:09:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, terry@lambert.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510031917.FAA27887@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Oct 4, 95 05:17:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 721 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >> >The failure mode is triggered for a mkdir of an existing dir by a client, > >> >leaving the path name buffer allocated on the server. > >> > >> nfssrv_mkdir doesn't seem to be reached in that case. > > >Try it from a PC. > > What would a PC client do differently from a FreeBSD (nfsv3) client? calling the mkdir without doing a lookup and expecting the failure to be blocked at the server. I *should* be blocked at the server in any case, since otherwise, it's possible to hack ing (tho a "make directory" attack isn't like to make a CERT advisory any time soon 8-)). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 13:33:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA21277 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:33:34 -0700 Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA21269 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 13:33:22 -0700 Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA08897; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:29:16 +0200 From: John Hay Message-Id: <199510032029.WAA08897@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: stable panics while backup to ncr->DAT To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 22:29:16 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199510031818.AA28720@Sysiphos> from "Stefan Esser" at Oct 3, 95 07:18:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1420 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The NCR driver in FreeBSD-current has some fixes, that did not > get applied to 2.1. Your best bet is to rebuild your 2.1 kernel > with /sys/pci/ncr.c from FreeBSD-current for that reason ... > Ok, I tried the ncr.c from current. The kernel panic is gone for now, but I got an error message an hour into the backup. According to my calculations it should have been very close to finish. Here is the error message: ncr0:6: ERROR (0:110) (8-28-0) (88/13) @ (1030:180003b0). script cmd = 88030000 reg: da 10 80 13 47 88 06 1f 03 08 86 28 00 60 00 00. ncr0: have to clear fifos. ncr0: handshake timeout st0(ncr0:6:0): COMMAND FAILED (6 ff) @f09ee800. sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. sd0(ncr0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 , retries:4 st0(ncr0:6:0): 200ns (5 Mb/sec) offset 8. > > Please check your complete SCSI setup: Cables (length and > quality) and terminators are the most common cause of the > kind of problem you describe. > I will check that. > You may want to try > > # ncrcontrol -s async > > to disable synchronous transfers for some tests. > > # ncrcontrol -s sync=4 > > may be an even better test, since the NCR uses some glitch > suppression logic when operating at synchronous transfer > rates of up to 5MHz. (If I remember right, it can go beyond > 5MHz doing asynchronous transfers!) I will try these. Thanks! John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 14:01:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA22929 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:01:31 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA22908 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:01:22 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA30471 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 06:57:52 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 06:57:52 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510032057.GAA30471@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: lmbench 1.1.5 vs 2.2-current Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 2.2-current seems to be significantly slower than 1.1.5 in many areas. These benchmarks were run on the same machine except for a faster disk and a possibly different L2 cache setting for 2.2-current. The faster disk and clustering speed up the file reread benchmark by a factor of 8. The local tcp bandwidth is anomalously slow in 2.2-current. mmap has been tuned for faster access at a cost of increased setup overhead in 2.2-current. Otherwise, these benchmarks show unexplained lossages (probably mostly due to vfs bloat) of 10-40% for 2.2-current. lmbench only runs properly on systems with significantly more than 16MB of memory because it does one test that wants 2 8MB arrays in memory at the same time. I usually delete one 8192 to eliminate the bogus test. More things break on 8MB machines. Has anyone fixed this properly? (the current port doesn't). Bruce L M B E N C H 1 . 0 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ Processor, Processes - times in microseconds -------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz Null Null Simple /bin/sh Mmap 2-proc 8-proc Syscall Process Process Process lat ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ---- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------ ------ Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 66 19 8.2K 35.4K 88K 2299 33 40 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 66 30 6.8K 32.5K 91K 313 56 59 *Local* Communication latencies in microseconds ----------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ UDP TCP --------- ------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 210 505 953 731 1320 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 285 626 1249 743 1452 *Local* Communication bandwidths in megabytes/second ---------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 8 4.3 1.1 5.3 17 0 0 30 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 8 0.2 8.6 12.4 17 0 0 30 Memory latencies in nanoseconds (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) -------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem TLB Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- --- ------- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 66 18 295 731 971 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 66 18 379 733 909 L M B E N C H 1 . 0 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ Comparison to best of the breed ------------------------------- (Best numbers are starred, i.e., *123) Processor, Processes - factor slower than the best -------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz Null Null Simple /bin/sh Mmap 2-proc 8-proc Syscall Process Process Process lat ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ---- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------ ------ Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 66 *19 1.2 1.1 *85.6K 7.3 *33 *40 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 66 1.6 *6.7K *31.7K 1.0 *313 1.7 1.5 *Local* Communication latencies - factor slower than the best ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ UDP TCP --------- ------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 *210 *505 *953 *731 *1320 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 1.4 1.2 1.3 1.0 1.1 *Local* Communication bandwidths - percentage of the best --------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 *8 *4 13% 42% 99% *0 *0 99% alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C *8 4% *8 *12 *16 *0 *0 *30 Memory latencies in nanoseconds - factor slower than the best (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem TLB Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- --- ------- Alphplex. FreeBSD 1.1.5 66 *18 *295 *731 1.1 alphplex FreeBSD 2.2-C 66 *18 1.3 1.0 *909 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 14:16:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA23626 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:16:45 -0700 Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23618 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:16:38 -0700 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00909; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:16:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:16:18 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Ugen J.S.Antsilevich" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Probably stupid question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Oct 1995, Ugen J.S.Antsilevich wrote: > This is simple but i really don't know : how do i view and how > do i edit theese sgml files? Emacs works for me. ;) Seriously, I acknowledge that documentation on this front is somewhat lacking. It is best to look at existing documents an example of the tags that may be used. If you do a lot of editing, I highly recommend getting psgml, an sgml major mode for emacs. I also don't want to invest too much time in documenting the current system because it will change before 2.2 comes out. The linuxdoc DTD will be out and either DocBook or OSF book will be in. I've had more than my fill of the brain dammaged design of the linuxdoc DTD. I'm evaluating both DTD's and some conversion tools at the moment. For viewing, look at the sgmlfmt(1) man page. For general information on SGML, follow the SGML link on my home page. There are some good introductory tutorial type documents there. Feel free to ask me questions directly as well. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 17:04:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA01406 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:04:10 -0700 Received: (from dyson@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA01398 ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:04:08 -0700 From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199510040004.RAA01398@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: lmbench 1.1.5 vs 2.2-current To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 17:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510032057.GAA30471@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Oct 4, 95 06:57:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1603 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >2.2-current seems to be significantly slower than 1.1.5 in many areas. > >These benchmarks were run on the same machine except for a faster disk >and a possibly different L2 cache setting for 2.2-current. > >The faster disk and clustering speed up the file reread benchmark by a >factor of 8. Yep, it is mostly the clustering, and the larger, on-demand, buffer cache. >The local tcp bandwidth is anomalously slow in >2.2-current. No it isn't, the flag that is set before the TCP test in the benchmark really screwing up the results. Either we don't support it correctly, or something strange is happening. >mmap has been tuned for faster access at a cost of >increased setup overhead in 2.2-current. Yep, the amount of time to map a 100-200K (or larger segment) is only a few page fault times. I think that is a very advantageous tradeoff, considering it could take 25-50 page fault times otherwise. >Otherwise, these benchmarks >show unexplained lossages (probably mostly due to vfs bloat) of 10-40% >for 2.2-current. Interesting, the VFS code adds THAT much overhead to the TCP/UDP results??? (Maybe, but I don't think so) I think that a properly ported lmbench, whose results are properly analyzed would show that the new system is much faster in several areas and roughly the same or sometimes a bit slower otherwise. The lmbench summary scripts don't even appear to produce the correct results given the raw data files produced (at least for me.) I always quote the raw data file output -- don't have time or inclination to fix the perl/awk/whatever scripts. John dyson@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 18:34:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08693 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 18:34:58 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA08688 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 18:34:55 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <06198-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:55:56 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id JAA06667 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:39:27 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id XAA21484 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:42:51 GMT Message-Id: <199510032342.XAA21484@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Ktrace -di causes crashes in current! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 09:42:49 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I sent in a PR for this (number kern/738) a little while back. It appears quite quickly on 8Mb machines, and a little after having aborted the ktrace on 16Mb machines. Has anyone else seen this? Stephen I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 19:31:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA14016 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:31:40 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA13988 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 19:31:32 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA08577; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:24:12 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:24:12 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510040224.MAA08577@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Ktrace -di causes crashes in current! Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I sent in a PR for this (number kern/738) a little while back. It appears >quite quickly on 8Mb machines, and a little after having aborted the ktrace on >16Mb machines. Has anyone else seen this? I don't remember seeing the PR. I see the bug on an 8MB system running this morning's -current. `ktrace ls -R /' causes a panic after about 3 seconds. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 20:01:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA14962 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:01:40 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA14956 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:01:28 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA09750; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:00:25 +1000 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:00:25 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510040300.NAA09750@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, dyson@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: lmbench 1.1.5 vs 2.2-current Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>The faster disk and clustering speed up the file reread benchmark by a >>factor of 8. >Yep, it is mostly the clustering, and the larger, on-demand, buffer cache. Actually it must be almost entirely due to the larger cache. My system can't do 8.6MB/sec except out of the cache. The test only reads up to 8MB. >... >>Otherwise, these benchmarks >>show unexplained lossages (probably mostly due to vfs bloat) of 10-40% >>for 2.2-current. >Interesting, the VFS code adds THAT much overhead to the TCP/UDP results??? >(Maybe, but I don't think so) Some of the networking latency must be for the extra context switch time caused by calling microtime() twice for every context switch (it should only be called once). I don't see how this could account for 100 usec extra. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 3 23:35:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA21916 for current-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:35:40 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA21879 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 23:35:21 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA04902 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:34:39 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA02929 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:34:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199510040634.IAA02929@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1 has a lie in MIRROR.SITES!! Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 08:34:37 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi (Jordan? David?) Please change the 2.1 MIRROR.SITES as follows: --------------------------------8<----------------------------- --- MIRROR.SITES.ORG Sun Sep 17 10:10:09 1995 +++ MIRROR.SITES Wed Oct 4 08:31:44 1995 @@ -132,7 +132,7 @@ Country Site and Maintainer ======= ======================================================== -South Africa ftp://skeleton.mikom.csir.co.za/pub/FreeBSD +South Africa ftp://ftp.internat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Mark Murray South Africa ftp://storm.sea.uct.ac.za/pub/FreeBSD --------------------------------8<----------------------------- -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grumble.grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 08:12:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA21814 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:12:58 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA21807 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:12:54 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA26814; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:12:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:12:51 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510041512.AA26814@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: John Dyson Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lmbench 1.1.5 vs 2.2-current In-Reply-To: <199510040004.RAA01398@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <199510032057.GAA30471@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199510040004.RAA01398@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> The local tcp bandwidth is anomalously slow in >> 2.2-current. > No it isn't, the flag that is set before the TCP test in the benchmark > really screwing up the results. Either we don't support it correctly, > or something strange is happening. Um, what flag? -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 10:01:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA25288 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:01:40 -0700 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25267 ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:01:34 -0700 Received: from rks32.pcs.dec.com by mail1.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA05563; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:46:23 -0700 Received: by rks32.pcs.dec.com (Smail3.1.27.1 #16) id m0t0Wr1-0005OqC; Wed, 4 Oct 95 17:39 MEZ Message-Id: To: questions%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Cc: current%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Subject: Re: gdb problem? libraries, perhaps? Reply-To: gj@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 16:39:34 GMT From: "gj%pcs.dec.com@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Raoul Golan wrote: > raoul@pogo[36]: /cdrom/usr/bin/gcc -g mytest.c > > raoul@pogo[36]: /cdrom/usr/bin/gdb a.out > GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it > under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. > GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), > Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc... > (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/home/raoul/test/a.out > Error accessing memory address 0x6d7884: Invalid argument. > (gdb) quit > > And this happens for whatever program I try to compile. and I just tried this under -current (with the same short test prog. posted by Raoul) and got: bash$ cc -g t.c bash$ gdb a.out GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc... (gdb) b main Breakpoint 1 at 0x16cb: file t.c, line 4. (gdb) r Starting program: /tmp/a.out reading register eip (#8): Bad address. (gdb) Huh ?!? What's this sh*t ? When did this start to happen ? Who changed what where ? Mommy ! I'll try to look into it. Gary J From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 10:32:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA26246 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:32:29 -0700 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA26241 ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:32:26 -0700 Received: from sri.MT.net by mail1.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA16296; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:16:51 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04152; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:19:03 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:19:03 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199510041719.LAA04152@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: gj@freebsd.org Cc: questions%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, current%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Subject: Re: gdb problem? libraries, perhaps? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), > Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc... > (gdb) b main > Breakpoint 1 at 0x16cb: file t.c, line 4. > (gdb) r > Starting program: /tmp/a.out > reading register eip (#8): Bad address. > (gdb) > > Huh ?!? What's this sh*t ? When did this start to happen ? Who changed what > where ? Mommy ! > > I'll try to look into it. Hmm, this maybe due to the changes to crt0.c I committed to the tree which got brought into 2.1. I didn't even try out gdb on any programs, so it's possible that the changes affected gdb. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 10:37:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA26491 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:37:23 -0700 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA26486 ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:37:21 -0700 Received: from tfs.com by mail1.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA06742; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 10:23:08 -0700 Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0t0XWt-0003w9C; Wed, 4 Oct 95 10:22 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA16599; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:22:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: gj@freebsd.org Cc: questions%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, current%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Subject: Re: gdb problem? libraries, perhaps? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 04 Oct 1995 16:39:34 GMT." Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 18:22:43 +0100 Message-Id: <16597.812827363@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > (gdb) r > Starting program: /tmp/a.out > reading register eip (#8): Bad address. > (gdb) > > Huh ?!? What's this sh*t ? When did this start to happen ? Who changed what > where ? Mommy ! I recompiled gdb and it went away... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. It will be some time yet before progress goes too far... (Poul Henningsen) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 11:16:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA28088 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:16:15 -0700 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA28070 ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:16:09 -0700 Received: from rks32.pcs.dec.com by mail1.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA06239; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 11:03:46 -0700 Received: by rks32.pcs.dec.com (Smail3.1.27.1 #16) id m0t0Y40-0005OqC; Wed, 4 Oct 95 18:57 MEZ Message-Id: To: davidg%root.com@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Cc: current%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, questions%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com In-Reply-To: Message from David Greenman of Wed, 04 Oct 95 10:41:36 MST. Reply-To: gj@pcs.dec.com Subject: Re: gdb problem? libraries, perhaps? Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 17:57:04 GMT From: "gj%pcs.dec.com@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Huh ?!? What's this sh*t ? When did this start to happen ? Who changed what > >where ? Mommy ! > > gdb must be rebuilt. The process pcb changed awhile ago and things don't > line up the same in the structure. > > -DG I suspected something like this, but the gdb I tested was built just minutes beforehand. Gary J From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 14:25:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA04113 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:25:29 -0700 Received: from crox.net.kiae.su (crox.net.kiae.su [144.206.130.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04105 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:25:12 -0700 Received: by crox.net.kiae.su id AAA00775; (8.6.11/vak/1.8a) Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:22:24 +0300 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 00:22:23 +0300 (MSK) From: "Serge V.Vakulenko" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Patch for ``cx'' driver and cxconfig utility Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, The patch, which upgrades the ``cx'' driver and cxconfig utility, (which are in the -current source tree) to the version 1.9 is placed into ftp.freebsd.org:/FreeBSD/incoming/cx19pch.tgz. Would somebody _please_ commit it? Regards, Serge ___ Serge Vakulenko Cronyx Ltd., Moscow Unix consulting and custom programming phone: +7 (095) 939-23-23 FreeBSD support fax: +7 (095) 939-03-00 Relcom network development From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 15:04:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA05787 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:04:11 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA05782 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:04:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA21548; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:03:40 -0700 To: "Serge V.Vakulenko" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patch for ``cx'' driver and cxconfig utility In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Oct 1995 00:22:23 +0300." Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 15:03:40 -0700 Message-ID: <21546.812844220@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK, I'm doing this right now. Jordan > Hi All, > > The patch, which upgrades the ``cx'' driver and cxconfig utility, > (which are in the -current source tree) to the version 1.9 > is placed into ftp.freebsd.org:/FreeBSD/incoming/cx19pch.tgz. > > Would somebody _please_ commit it? > > Regards, > Serge > ___ > Serge Vakulenko > Cronyx Ltd., Moscow Unix consulting and custom programming > phone: +7 (095) 939-23-23 FreeBSD support > fax: +7 (095) 939-03-00 Relcom network development > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 15:43:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA07199 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:43:28 -0700 Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA07194 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:43:17 -0700 Received: from utis156.cs.utwente.nl by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (5.x/csrelayMX-SVR4_1.1tmp/RB) id AA12594; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:42:32 +0100 Received: by utis156.cs.utwente.nl (4.1/RBCS-1.0.1) id AA24073; Wed, 4 Oct 95 23:42:24 +0100 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lmbench 1.1.5 vs 2.2-current In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 04 Oct 1995 13:00:25 +1000." <199510040300.NAA09750@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 23:42:23 +0100 Message-Id: <24072.812846543@utis156.cs.utwente.nl> From: Andras Olah Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A few comments on the TCP lmbench results: In my view, the slight increase in TCP latency is partly due to the increased processing required by T/TCP. I haven't done any tests, neither did I count the extra instructions, so I cannot give a specific figure of how much is this overhead. I don't think it's significant. As for the throughput, I collected a trace with tcpdump. It turned out that the 0.21MB/s throughput is caused by an interference of the 16384 byte MTU of the loopback i/f and the Nagle algorithm. The transfer was running in a lock-step, when a few segments were sent and then the sender was waiting for a delayed ack (~200ms). This situation is described in a recent IEEE/ACM Trans. on Networking in the context of IP over ATM. Using the TCP_NOPUSH socket option increased the bw to 2.9MB/s on my noname 486/40MHz. I guess TCP_NODELAY would do the same. Andras P.S: I don't have lmbench at home (where I did the test), but a program bw_tcp by L.M. from 1994 which I believe is a precursor of the lmbench package. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 4 20:36:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA16368 for current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:36:08 -0700 Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA16343 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:35:53 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA00418; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:34:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: Stefan Esser cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and current In-Reply-To: <199510021533.AA04486@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Please check your kernel config file, and rebuild your kernel for > device ahc0 being defined and try again. > > Let me know, if this doesn't work. > > The default GUS interrupt vector has been changed to 11, according > to some recent commit message. You may want to build a kernel without > audio support, in case you have it configured in currently ... Okay I finally built alsorts of kernels and they all failed at the same place:-( What I did first was look at how my sound was configured and noticed in the latest LINT that the gus is on irq12, so I configured it that way. Then the same thing happened as before. So the next step I tried to was to take all the sound config info. This also failed in the same place. My video card is pci and is using irq 10 and the 2940 is using irq 11, should I try and swap these around whether physically or otherwise and see if that works? ========================================================================== We must overcome conventional values in order to live creatively; the established values of society were invented by the weak to enable them to triumph over the strong. REBEL!! Toss Windows 95, install FreeBSD today! ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 01:11:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA25475 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 01:11:25 -0700 Received: from moa.cc.monash.edu.au (george@moa.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.40.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA25469 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 01:11:18 -0700 Received: (george@localhost) by moa.cc.monash.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.4) id SAA11430 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 18:10:57 +1000 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 18:10:57 +1000 From: George Scott Message-Id: <199510050810.SAA11430@moa.cc.monash.edu.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: How do I get started? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the newbie question; if this is the wrong place please point me... I am trying to build freebsd-current in the hope that I'll learn something and maybe contribute something back to the cause, but I'm not getting very far past square one. I have a machine running 2.1.0-950726-SNAP. I have mounted a disk over /usr/src and have run all the deltas through ctm in that directory. Now what do I do? My guess was that I just do something like cd /usr/src; make world DESTDIR=xxx but this fails pretty quickly. Is there a document describing what I should be doing? Any pointers? George. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 01:22:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA26028 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 01:22:44 -0700 Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA26010 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 01:22:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199510050822.BAA26010@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Syscons patches etc.... To: hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers), current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 01:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: sos@freebsd.org Reply-to: sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 694 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm in the process of overhauling syscons, and applying all kinds of bug fixes to it, plus some new funcionality. Allthough the patches has been coming in at at very pleasent rate lately, I'll ask officially if anybody has something lying around that they think should be in there.. Also I'd appreaciate if nobody puts anything into the sources at the moment, as its going to be a major pain for me. I hope to have the first round of changes committed during the next week or so. Thanks.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 02:27:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29399 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 02:27:47 -0700 Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29380 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 02:27:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199510050927.CAA29380@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: How do I get started? To: george@moa.cc.monash.edu.au (George Scott) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 02:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510050810.SAA11430@moa.cc.monash.edu.au> from "George Scott" at Oct 5, 95 06:10:57 pm From: sos@freebsd.org Reply-to: sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1051 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to George Scott who wrote: > > Sorry for the newbie question; if this is the wrong place please point me... Your'e welcome... > I am trying to build freebsd-current in the hope that I'll learn something > and maybe contribute something back to the cause, but I'm not getting very > far past square one. > > I have a machine running 2.1.0-950726-SNAP. I have mounted a disk over > /usr/src and have run all the deltas through ctm in that directory. Now > what do I do? > > My guess was that I just do something like > > cd /usr/src; make world DESTDIR=xxx > > but this fails pretty quickly. Do you have a /usr/obj directory with enough space to hold all the .o files + libs + compiled programs ?? If this is OK, a simple make world in /usr/src should do the trick... If this fails we need more information on what is going wrong -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 03:09:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA01453 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 03:09:28 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA01342 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 03:07:20 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA00354 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:05:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199510051005.AA00354@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:05:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: Chris Madison "Re: SCSI and current" (Oct 4, 23:34) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Chris Madison Subject: Re: SCSI and current Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Oct 4, 23:34, Chris Madison wrote: } Subject: Re: SCSI and current } > } > Please check your kernel config file, and rebuild your kernel for } > device ahc0 being defined and try again. } > } > Let me know, if this doesn't work. } > } > The default GUS interrupt vector has been changed to 11, according } > to some recent commit message. You may want to build a kernel without } > audio support, in case you have it configured in currently ... } } Okay I finally built alsorts of kernels and they all failed at the same } place:-( What I did first was look at how my sound was configured and } noticed in the latest LINT that the gus is on irq12, so I configured } it that way. Then the same thing happened as before. So the next } step I tried to was to take all the sound config info. This also failed } in the same place. My video card is pci and is using irq 10 and the } 2940 is using irq 11, should I try and swap these around whether physically } or otherwise and see if that works? Please send me your kernel config file. I suspect there is some inconsistency. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 03:56:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA03404 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 03:56:46 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA03394 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 03:56:39 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA01684 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:56:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199510051056.AA01684@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 11:56:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: Chris Madison "Re: SCSI and current" (Oct 5, 6:40) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Chris Madison Subject: Re: SCSI and current Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Oct 5, 6:40, Chris Madison wrote: } Subject: Re: SCSI and current } } > Please send me your kernel config file. } > } > I suspect there is some inconsistency. } } I just noticed that on the msdos side, for Word Perfect:-), that the } mouse stopped working so there _must_ be something that I am missing:-( } So I'm looking for something somewhere too:-) Thanx if you can find it } first! Well, I removed everything except the controller and device lines, and that is what I got: } controller isa0 } controller pci0 } controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr } controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr } controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr } controller scbus0 #base SCSI code } device sd0 #SCSI disks } device cd0 #SCSI CD-ROMs } device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr } device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr } device lpt0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty irq 7 vector lptintr } device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr } device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr There is no SCSI controller ... You need to add a line for your Adaptec, or the PCI probe won't have a driver available to assign to the card, and that is what the boot message talked about: pci0:18: Adaptec, device=0x7178, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] The GENERIC kernel contained the "device ahc0" line, and the probe printed ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 when it identified the driver to use for the PCI card with above PCI device ID ... While PCI is "plug'n'play", you still need the driver compiled into the kernel, currently But with PCI it might really become possible to demand load the driver at boot time ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 04:02:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA03749 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 04:02:57 -0700 Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA03732 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 04:02:47 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA12970; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 07:02:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 07:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: Stefan Esser cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and current In-Reply-To: <199510051056.AA01684@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > There is no SCSI controller ... >//.... > ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 >//... > Regards, STefan Oh joy the obvious thing I didn't look at:-( That's what I get for assuming..... Thanx ========================================================================== We must overcome conventional values in order to live creatively; the established values of society were invented by the weak to enable them to triumph over the strong. REBEL!! Toss Windows 95, install FreeBSD today! ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 13:46:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA20643 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:46:39 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA20587 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:32 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA28777; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:44:22 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA10700; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:44:22 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA09751; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:38:14 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199510052038.VAA09751@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Syscons patches etc.... To: sos@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:38:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510050822.BAA26010@freefall.freebsd.org> from "sos@freebsd.org" at Oct 5, 95 01:22:34 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 849 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As sos@freebsd.org wrote: > > Allthough the patches has been coming in at at very pleasent rate > lately, I'll ask officially if anybody has something lying around > that they think should be in there.. No patch, but a request: If there's somebody around who's actually using syscons with a German keyboard (i don't), he should provide a really working keyboard map. Something where a µ doesn't display as an æ, Shift-^ actually yields a ° etc. (People with ancient 7-bit mailers could immediately drop this message, since it apparently won't make much sense to them. :-) (p.s.: This includes people sitting behind x.org, as a recent enhancement report to xbugs@x.org told me. :-]) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 17:43:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA00215 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:43:19 -0700 Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA00210 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:43:17 -0700 Received: by covina.lightside.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0t10sc-0009YEC; Thu, 5 Oct 95 17:43 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Atapi.flp broken! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I downloaded atapi.flp from the latest snapshot and it doesn't even boot! It gets to "uncompressing kernel...done" and then spontaneously reboots (or hangs the system, depending on which computer I use). Is anyone else having this problem? Perhaps your kernel was too big to fit on the floppy and got truncated? ---Jake From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 17:56:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA00645 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:56:18 -0700 Received: from tippy.vnet.net (tippy.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA00639 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:56:14 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by tippy.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00202; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:56:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: Stefan Esser , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI and current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, Chris Madison wrote: > > > > There is no SCSI controller ... > >//.... > > ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:18 > >//... > > Regards, STefan That did it:-) Running under a new kernel now! Thanx again __________________________________________________________________________ root@tippy.vnet.net | "Theres been day's like this before you know and I cmadison@vnet.net | liked it all like the times we did it so hard there cmmadiso@uncc.edu | was blood on the wall..." -Sinead From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 19:02:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA03562 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 19:02:24 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA03551 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 19:02:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA08095; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 19:02:12 -0700 To: Jake Hamby cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Atapi.flp broken! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Oct 1995 17:43:10 PDT." Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 19:02:12 -0700 Message-ID: <8093.812944932@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I downloaded atapi.flp from the latest snapshot and it doesn't even > boot! It gets to "uncompressing kernel...done" and then spontaneously > reboots (or hangs the system, depending on which computer I use). Is > anyone else having this problem? Perhaps your kernel was too big to fit > on the floppy and got truncated? I'm investigating this - sorry for the gross failure to function! I'm not sure what's going on - there's not THAT much different between the two floppies, and I hardly expected the ATAPI driver to cause instant reboots. Thanks for the quick feedback, in any case! :( Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 20:47:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA07665 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:47:37 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA07660 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:47:32 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA06711; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:47:29 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510060347.UAA06711@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Syscons patches etc.... To: sos@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510050822.BAA26010@freefall.freebsd.org> from "sos@freebsd.org" at Oct 5, 95 01:22:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 942 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm in the process of overhauling syscons, and applying all kinds > of bug fixes to it, plus some new funcionality. > Allthough the patches has been coming in at at very pleasent rate > lately, I'll ask officially if anybody has something lying around > that they think should be in there.. > > Also I'd appreaciate if nobody puts anything into the sources at > the moment, as its going to be a major pain for me. > I hope to have the first round of changes committed during the next > week or so. Was the fax of the pages from the Gulie book on the type 1 vs type 2 keyboard controller of any help in resolving the PS/2 keyboard controller problems? More specifically have you been able to incorporate a detection of type 2 keyboard controllers and added the needed delays? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 23:21:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13558 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:21:32 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA13543 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:21:26 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id HAA11112; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:21:04 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA13917; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:21:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA12083; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:06:15 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199510060606.HAA12083@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Atapi.flp broken! To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:06:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: jehamby@lightside.com In-Reply-To: <8093.812944932@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 5, 95 07:02:12 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 429 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > boot! It gets to "uncompressing kernel...done" and then spontaneously > > reboots (or hangs the system, depending on which computer I use). Is > > I'm investigating this - sorry for the gross failure to function! 4 MB machine? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 23:23:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13771 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:23:57 -0700 Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13746 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:23:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199510060623.XAA13746@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Syscons patches etc.... To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sos@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510060347.UAA06711@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Oct 5, 95 08:47:28 pm From: sos@freebsd.org Reply-to: sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1181 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Rodney W. Grimes who wrote: > > > > I'm in the process of overhauling syscons, and applying all kinds > > of bug fixes to it, plus some new funcionality. > > Allthough the patches has been coming in at at very pleasent rate > > lately, I'll ask officially if anybody has something lying around > > that they think should be in there.. > > > > Also I'd appreaciate if nobody puts anything into the sources at > > the moment, as its going to be a major pain for me. > > I hope to have the first round of changes committed during the next > > week or so. > > Was the fax of the pages from the Gulie book on the type 1 vs type 2 > keyboard controller of any help in resolving the PS/2 keyboard controller > problems? More specifically have you been able to incorporate a detection > of type 2 keyboard controllers and added the needed delays? Yes, I have got it. And yes its in the pile of changes I plan to incorporate, and no I have no way to test if it works :( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 23:25:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13891 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:25:57 -0700 Received: (from sos@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA13865 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:25:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199510060625.XAA13865@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Syscons patches etc.... To: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sos@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510052038.VAA09751@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Oct 5, 95 09:38:13 pm From: sos@freebsd.org Reply-to: sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 885 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to J Wunsch who wrote: > > As sos@freebsd.org wrote: > > > > Allthough the patches has been coming in at at very pleasent rate > > lately, I'll ask officially if anybody has something lying around > > that they think should be in there.. > > No patch, but a request: If there's somebody around who's actually > using syscons with a German keyboard (i don't), he should provide a > really working keyboard map. Something where a _ doesn't display as > an _, Shift-^ actually yields a _ etc. Hmm, are there more than one German layout, the one currently in the tree has been done by a german :) Other than that, if somebody has a "real" german map, please let me know.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 5 23:35:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA14113 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:35:58 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA14108 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:35:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA08976; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:35:38 -0700 To: J Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users), jehamby@lightside.com Subject: Re: Atapi.flp broken! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 1995 07:06:15 BST." <199510060606.HAA12083@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 23:35:38 -0700 Message-ID: <8974.812961338@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 8MB, actually! Jordan > As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > boot! It gets to "uncompressing kernel...done" and then spontaneously > > > reboots (or hangs the system, depending on which computer I use). Is > > > > I'm investigating this - sorry for the gross failure to function! > > 4 MB machine? > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 01:21:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA16687 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:21:14 -0700 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA16682 ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:21:07 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA05969; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:21:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:21:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199510060821.BAA05969@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@freebsd.org CC: current@freebsd.org Subject: pkg_add and mtree From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Shouldn't pkg_add call mtree *before* doing anything in the PLIST? The exact same command worked the second time around.... Satoshi ------- ## pkg_add tcsh-6.06.tgz updating /etc/shells ln: /usr/local/share/nls/fr_BE.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory Command 'ln -fs /usr/local/share/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat /usr/local/share/nls/fr_BE.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat' failed. ln: /usr/local/share/nls/fr_CA.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory Command 'ln -fs /usr/local/share/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat /usr/local/share/nls/fr_CA.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat' failed. ln: /usr/local/share/nls/fr_CH.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory Command 'ln -fs /usr/local/share/nls/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat /usr/local/share/nls/fr_CH.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat' failed. ln: /usr/local/share/nls/de_AT.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory Command 'ln -fs /usr/local/share/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat /usr/local/share/nls/de_AT.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat' failed. ln: /usr/local/share/nls/de_CH.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat: No such file or directory Command 'ln -fs /usr/local/share/nls/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat /usr/local/share/nls/de_CH.ISO_8859-1/tcsh.cat' failed. missing: ./etc (created) missing: ./include (created) missing: ./info (created) missing: ./lib (created) missing: ./libexec (created) missing: ./man/cat1 (created) missing: ./man/cat2 (created) missing: ./man/cat3 (created) missing: ./man/cat4 (created) missing: ./man/cat5 (created) missing: ./man/cat6 (created) missing: ./man/cat7 (created) missing: ./man/cat8 (created) missing: ./man/catl (created) missing: ./man/man2 (created) missing: ./man/man3 (created) missing: ./man/man4 (created) missing: ./man/man5 (created) missing: ./man/man6 (created) missing: ./man/man7 (created) missing: ./man/man8 (created) missing: ./man/manl (created) missing: ./man/skel (created) missing: ./sbin (created) missing: ./share/nls/da_DK.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/de_AT.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/de_CH.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/en_AU.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/en_CA.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/en_GB.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/en_US.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/es_ES.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/fi_FI.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/fr_BE.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/fr_CA.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/fr_CH.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/is_IS.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/it_CH.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/it_IT.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/ja_JP.EUC (created) missing: ./share/nls/lt_LN.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/nl_BE.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/nl_NL.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/no_NO.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/pt_PT.ISO_8859-1 (created) missing: ./share/nls/ru_SU.KOI8-R (created) missing: ./share/nls/sv_SE.ISO_8859-1 (created) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 01:45:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA17264 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:45:03 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA17252 ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:44:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA12405; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:44:52 -0700 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jkh@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add and mtree In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 1995 01:21:04 PDT." <199510060821.BAA05969@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 01:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: <12403.812969091@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Shouldn't pkg_add call mtree *before* doing anything in the PLIST? > The exact same command worked the second time around.... Would you like it to? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 04:51:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA25461 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 04:51:18 -0700 Received: from veda.is (root@veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA25450 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 04:51:14 -0700 Received: (from adam@localhost) by veda.is (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA02388 for freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:51:06 GMT From: Adam David Message-Id: <199510061151.LAA02388@veda.is> Subject: nullfs problem? To: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:51:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 468 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is nullfs currently broken? I've been trying to use nullfs to union mount some directories over each other and it triggers spontaneous reboots within a few minutes of actual activity. Here's the sequence of mounts I've been using: mount -o union -t null tier1 basedir mount -o union -t null tier2 basedir tier1 contains pre-existing directories and tier2 contains files, which are all to be presented within a single common directory. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 05:47:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA27255 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 05:47:10 -0700 Received: from veda.is (root@veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA27248 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 05:47:04 -0700 Received: (from adam@localhost) by veda.is (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA04331 for freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:46:59 GMT From: Adam David Message-Id: <199510061246.MAA04331@veda.is> Subject: mounting MFS over NFS To: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 12:46:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 244 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I export an MFS filesystem and mount it via NFS, it cannot be accessed from the NFS client host. It is not clear what behaviour is intended, at least it is not mentioned in the BUGS section of the mfs manpages. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 07:57:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA00537 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:57:49 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA00532 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 07:57:43 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA04639; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:57:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 10:57:33 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510061457.AA04639@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Adam David Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: nullfs problem? In-Reply-To: <199510061151.LAA02388@veda.is> References: <199510061151.LAA02388@veda.is> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Is nullfs currently broken? It's been broken for more than a year now... -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 11:48:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA09573 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:48:06 -0700 Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (root@deep-thought.demos.su [192.91.186.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA09538 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:47:40 -0700 Received: by deep-thought.demos.su id VAA00968; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:19:19 +0300 To: current@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: DEMOS Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:19:18 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Ports SUP junk Lines: 8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 423 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk SUP Requesting changes since Oct 1 13:39:33 1995 SUP Receiving file sysutils/.#Makefile.1.3 SUP Receiving file sysutils/Makefile -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 13:00:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA11900 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:00:40 -0700 Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA11883 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:00:30 -0700 Received: by Sysiphos id AA04407 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:59:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199510061959.AA04407@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:59:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: biodone: buffer already done (and system hangs) with -current Cc: Doug Rabson Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk There seems to be some problem in FreeBSD-current regarding mmap() and NFS: Just found, that "tail -300" can hang forever in disk wait, if used to access some file via NFS: $ ps -lw UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 200 27492 27459 0 -22 0 152 444 vmpfw D+ p0 0:00.03 tail -300 /homes/se/Mail/fvwm I've traced the point of failure to be the first access to the mmap()ed file (tail/forward.c:218). Interestingly I can access the file by other means without problems (i.e. a cat of the same file succeeds). On the console appeared 3 "biodone: buffer already done" messages per cat of the file (some 540KB). The system didn't shutdown (i.e. hung before the "syncing disks" message), when I tried to reboot. When the system was up again, I retried the tail command, and it hung again! (I.e. I can reproduce this failure, in case you got something I might test.) Any ideas ? STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/staff/esser/esser.html From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 14:34:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA17418 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:34:08 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA17336 ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:33:52 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA08676; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:33:48 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA05198; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:33:48 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA13825; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:17:34 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199510062117.WAA13825@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Syscons patches etc.... To: sos@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:17:33 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510060625.XAA13865@freefall.freebsd.org> from "sos@freebsd.org" at Oct 5, 95 11:25:48 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 669 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As sos@freebsd.org wrote: > > > really working keyboard map. Something where a _ doesn't display as > > an _, Shift-^ actually yields a _ etc. ick. I thought Danes were using 8-bit ISO "umlauts", but apparently Danish mailers are not... > Hmm, are there more than one German layout, the one currently in > the tree has been done by a german :) It's obviously incomplete, only the main umlaut keys do work correctly. (This is at least with 2.0.5, that's what we're shipping to our FreeBSD customers.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 15:12:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA20678 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:12:23 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA20665 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:12:15 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA02394; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:10:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510062210.PAA02394@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: nullfs problem? To: adam@veda.is (Adam David) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:10:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510061151.LAA02388@veda.is> from "Adam David" at Oct 6, 95 11:51:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 617 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is nullfs currently broken? I've been trying to use nullfs to union mount > some directories over each other and it triggers spontaneous reboots within > a few minutes of actual activity. > > Here's the sequence of mounts I've been using: > > mount -o union -t null tier1 basedir > mount -o union -t null tier2 basedir > > tier1 contains pre-existing directories and tier2 contains files, which are > all to be presented within a single common directory. Read-only works. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 16:47:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA27987 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:47:07 -0700 Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA27982 ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:47:04 -0700 Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA19888; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:49:24 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 16:49:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199510062349.QAA19888@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: jkh@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <12403.812969091@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: pkg_add and mtree From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * > Shouldn't pkg_add call mtree *before* doing anything in the PLIST? * > The exact same command worked the second time around.... * * Would you like it to? Uhh, no thanks....I've been into that cave called pkg_install about five times, and I think I only got out alive once.... ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 18:30:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA02264 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 18:30:37 -0700 Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA02256 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 18:30:31 -0700 Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA02663; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:31:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 21:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ac(8) man page Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Someone asked a question a while back as to what units the ac(8) command displayed. May I suggest the following patch? *** ac.8.old Fri Oct 6 20:59:15 1995 --- ac.8 Fri Oct 6 11:43:58 1995 *************** *** 53,59 **** .Xr init 8 , respectively. .Nm \&Ac ! examines these records and writes the accumulated connect time for all logins to the standard output. .Pp The options are as follows: --- 53,59 ---- .Xr init 8 , respectively. .Nm \&Ac ! examines these records and writes the accumulated connect time (in hours) for all logins to the standard output. .Pp The options are as follows: From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 6 22:22:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA11400 for current-outgoing; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:22:19 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA11393 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:22:10 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id GAA23380 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 06:22:07 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id GAA10393 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 06:22:06 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA14455 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:53:11 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199510062153.WAA14455@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: slip -- !RUNNING To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:53:11 +0100 (MET) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 509 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it just me? After dialing through SLIP, i often get a connection, but suddenly (after a few minutes, supposedly on lousy phone lines), i get a "No route to host", even though the interface itself is okay, and the modem has succesfully retrained the line. I'm also noticing that slX interfaces are not marked as RUNNING in the ifconfig output. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 00:31:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA14087 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:31:58 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA14075 ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:31:55 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA13622; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 08:29:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199510070729.IAA13622@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Atapi.flp broken! To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 08:29:52 +0100 (MET) Cc: jehamby@lightside.com, hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8093.812944932@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 5, 95 07:02:12 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1027 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I downloaded atapi.flp from the latest snapshot and it doesn't even > > boot! It gets to "uncompressing kernel...done" and then spontaneously > > reboots (or hangs the system, depending on which computer I use). Is > > anyone else having this problem? Perhaps your kernel was too big to fit > > on the floppy and got truncated? I booted atapi.flp yesterday (the newer version of Oct 6th) and had no problems booting it. I don't have an IDE/ATAPI drive though in that system. Just used atapi.flp since it starts with letter 'a' and thus arrived earlier than boot.flp :-) (daytime ftp rates ti the US are horrible here in Germany at the moment) > > I'm investigating this - sorry for the gross failure to function! > > I'm not sure what's going on - there's not THAT much different between > the two floppies, and I hardly expected the ATAPI driver to cause > instant reboots. Thanks for the quick feedback, in any case! :( > > Jordan > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 10:43:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA10685 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 10:43:55 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA10657 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 10:43:33 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA01008 (5.65.kiae-2 for current@freebsd.org); Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:35:08 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sat, 7 Oct 95 21:35:07 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00295 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:29:47 +0300 To: current@freebsd.org Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:29:47 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: procfs LKM broken now! Lines: 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 614 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It calls _divdi3 function (procfs_vnops.c) and fail to load, because can't find it. Also libkern have such function, it seems that procfs_vnops.c is only file which call it, so, it isn't picked from libkern to kernel. Workaround is to add 'options PROCFS' to kernel config file. In this case _divdi3 picked from libkern. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 12:10:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA15501 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:10:23 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15493 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:10:18 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id FAA00629; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 05:07:50 +1000 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 05:07:50 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510071907.FAA00629@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@astral.msk.su, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procfs LKM broken now! Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >It calls _divdi3 function (procfs_vnops.c) and fail to load, >because can't find it. Also libkern have such function, it seems >that procfs_vnops.c is only file which call it, so, it isn't >picked from libkern to kernel. >Workaround is to add 'options PROCFS' to kernel config file. >In this case _divdi3 picked from libkern. This shows that a kernel library shouldn't be used if there are lkm's. The whole point of the library is to avoid linking to unused functions, but lkms might use anything in the library and this use is not detected when the kernel is linked. Also, when individual .o's are used instead of a library, the list of .o's must be bloated to include everything that an lkm might need. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 14:32:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA25092 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 14:32:48 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA25086 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 14:32:40 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA14803 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 22:30:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 22:30:39 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199510072130.WAA14803@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Keyboard reset did not work... Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk With a quite recent kernel I get mulligan# reboot syncing disks... 4 4 2 done Rebooting... Keyboard reset did not work, attempting CPU shutdown and there it hangs... It's an ASUS VL/I 486 DX4-100, 16MB, AH1542CF. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 15:20:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA27256 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:20:51 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA27239 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:20:47 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA08843; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:20:02 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510072220.PAA08843@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Keyboard reset did not work... To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510072130.WAA14803@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Oct 7, 95 10:30:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1128 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > With a quite recent kernel I get > > mulligan# reboot > > syncing disks... 4 4 2 done > Rebooting... > Keyboard reset did not work, attempting CPU shutdown > > and there it hangs... > > It's an ASUS VL/I 486 DX4-100, 16MB, AH1542CF. >From the LINT kernel config file: # BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET disables the use of the keyboard controller to # reset the CPU for reboot. This is needed on some systems with broken # keyboard controllers. ... #options "BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET" I suggest you add this option to the kernel file for that machine. Also the model number sighted above does not exist as an ASUS product. Which one of these is it: PVI-486AP4 (Intel Aries chip set) PVI-486SP3 (Sis 85C496/497 chip set) VL/I-486SV2G (Sis 85C471 chip set) VL/I-486SV2GX4 (Adds support for DX4 to VL/I-486SP2G, obsoletes it too) What is stamped on the keyboard controller chip as far as manufacturer and model number (if there is one, it may just say ``AMIKey 2''. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 7 18:14:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07600 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:14:42 -0700 Received: from metal.ops.neosoft.com (root@metal-pluto.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.65.163.227]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07593 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 18:14:39 -0700 Received: (from smace@localhost) by metal.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA02367; Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:14:14 -0500 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199510080114.UAA02367@metal.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Re: Keyboard reset did not work... To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:14:14 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510072130.WAA14803@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Oct 7, 95 10:30:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 290 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > With a quite recent kernel I get > > mulligan# reboot > > syncing disks... 4 4 2 done > Rebooting... > Keyboard reset did not work, attempting CPU shutdown > > and there it hangs... > > It's an ASUS VL/I 486 DX4-100, 16MB, AH1542CF. > I've got a couple of MB's that do this too.