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Date:      Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:46:02 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        smace@metal.ops.neosoft.com (Scott Mace)
Cc:        davidg@Root.COM, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: vnode_pager_outpages error
Message-ID:  <199511051946.LAA12769@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <199511050750.BAA01600@metal.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at Nov 5, 95 01:50:58 am

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> 
> > >Also, I randomly get signal-10's and singal-11's when compiling.
> > 
> >    That's a real problem. It's interesting to note that Jordan was having
> > trouble a few days ago when he tried to upgrade his 90Mhz machine (same
> > motherboard as you) to 100Mhz. When he replaced the CPU with a 133Mhz one, 
> > his problems went away. In his case, it was obviously a hardware problem,
> > but
> > since the external cache and memory were operating with the same timing
> > (66Mhz), I can only conclude that the problem was the CPU itself. Strange...
> 
> I will see if I can try a 66mhz and 90mhz cpu (don't know if I can get a
> 133mhz one)

You can _not_ put a 66mhz CPU in that board, and before swapping CPU chips
simply clock your 100Mhz chip down at 90 (change external clock from 66 to
60Mhz).

> > 
> > >This is with an ASUS P55TP4XE/100 ,
> > > 256 Pipline Burst cache, AHA2940 scsi 16MB EDO ram
> > 
> >    Hmmm...what kind of disk are you using on it? I'm definately interested
> > in
> > the results of any equipment swapping you can do. It's possible that there
> > is some sort of bug in the VM system (we've been down THIS road plenty of
> > times :-)), but I haven't seen any problems like that here...and I do
> > countless make worlds. I have two P55TP4XE based machines here, both are
> > 90Mhz
> > w/PB cache. I know that Rod does extensive testing with these motherboards,
> > too, and he does 100Mhz+ there. His tests are all with -stable, however.

The #1 cause I have found of sig-10 sig-11 that are _hardware_ related have
to do with memory system failures, quite often a bad cache chip or bad cache
module and/or bad main memory.  You _are_ using 60nS main memory right???
You do have 24 or less chips on each simm, right?? EIther of those violate
the stated operating parameters of the PCI/I-P55TP4XE board.

> I have a Seagate st32550N attached to it. Also, I'm running 0111 rev of the
> ASUS bios.

Phk just flashed his machine up to that revision and is now seeing soft
(C-A-D) reboot problems, any such things going on with yours?  I checked
here and can not duplicate it here.

> I also tried changing the main memory with standard 60ns simms, no change.
> I've tried it with -current and -stable and still get signal 11's but less
> frequently with -stable.

Hummm... well that answers my memory speed question...

-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                 Reliable computers for FreeBSD



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