From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 25 22:33:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA19167 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19160 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA29241 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:33:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip209.prc.primenet.com (ip209.prc.primenet.com [204.212.56.209]) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA24665 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:33:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199512260633.XAA24665@usr5.primenet.com> From: Jack Burnett McAlister Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 23:36:19 -800 To: doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FreeBSD volunteer Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 25 22:37:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA19356 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com (mailhost1.primenet.com [198.68.32.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19350 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA29333 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:37:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip209.prc.primenet.com (ip209.prc.primenet.com [204.212.56.209]) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA25127 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:37:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199512260637.XAA25127@usr5.primenet.com> From: Jack Burnett McAlister Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 23:40:29 -800 To: doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FreeBSD Volunteer Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am retired with lots of time on my hands that needs to be used. I have much programming and systems experience, a fair amount of exposure to C and UNIX in its many forms. I am a past consultant to IBM in the construction of HELP files using a form of SGML. I will try to do as much as I can to help in this effort. Jack B. McAlister 3301 Hedgewood Drive Apt. A Prescott Valley, AZ 86314 520-775-3137 email burnett@primenet.com From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 25 22:51:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA19633 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA19628 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id AAA28007 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 00:38:34 -0600 Received: (from jgoerzen@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.2/8.7.2) id RAA00209 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:54:44 -0600 (CST) From: John Goerzen Message-Id: <199512252354.RAA00209@complete.org> Subject: Error(s) in the handbook To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:54:42 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If this is a mailing list (I'm not sure), please e-mail your reply directly to me because I am not on the list. In section 5.3.10 of the handbook, Pseudo-devices, it is stated: "pseudo-device gzip . . . This is really only useful when you need to compress FreeBSD programs to fit on a boot floppy. You will probably never need to compress programs on your hard drive in this fashion, so you'll probably want to comment out this line." Well, that is, IMHO, bad advice. The file /stand/sysinstall is one of those gzip'd executables. It took me quite a few hours to find out why that program wouldn't run after I had commented out that line in the kernel configuration. My advice would be to leave it in (there may be other utilities like this as well -- I'm not sure) or if it is taken out, warn the people of this problem. I'd also reccommend putting an appropriate comment in the GENERIC and LINT kernel configs (though that may be somebody else's job). An alternative to having to leave this in would be to un-gzip all programs before installing them on the hard disk (although this too may be somebody else's job) or to make the system smart enough to tell users that they're trying to run a gzip'd program. Thanks for your time. John -- John Goerzen, programmer and owner | MICRO$oft only exists because some Communications Centre & Complete BBS | people are too dumb to get something E-mail jgoerzen@complete.org | better, such as FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 26 06:36:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA04534 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 06:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA04529 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 06:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11921; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 09:36:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 09:36:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu To: John Goerzen cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error(s) in the handbook In-Reply-To: <199512252354.RAA00209@complete.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, John Goerzen wrote: > "pseudo-device gzip . . . This is really only useful when you need to ... > Well, that is, IMHO, bad advice. The file /stand/sysinstall is one of > those gzip'd executables. It took me quite a few hours to find out why that I changed the text a couple days ago suggesting that the line should *not* be removed for precicely this reason. Thanks for the comment! -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 26 07:38:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA06864 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 07:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA06841 Tue, 26 Dec 1995 07:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA02637; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 07:37:43 -0800 To: Jack Burnett McAlister cc: doc@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Volunteer In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:40:29." <199512260637.XAA25127@usr5.primenet.com> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 07:37:43 -0800 Message-ID: <2635.819992263@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk That's great! We have a lot of projects that could really use the help! Could you perhaps tell us a little bit more about your areas of interest? We've learned by experience that volunteers aren't simply generic resources who can be pointed at any old task and expected to do it - they need to be directed at things that genuinely *interest* them or the motivation just won't be there, to say nothing of the degree of enjoyment that we'd like everyone to be able to derive from their work with this project. Though it has grown fairly "serious" in the last year or so, we started this project essentially for recreation, being the software hobbiests that we are. I'd like to keep that purpose alive for as long as possible, and the best way of doing so is to foster the development of a team of volunteers who are all essentially enjoying what they doing. To sum it up - yes, we'd love to have you aboard! What would you LIKE to do? Best regards, Jordan > I am retired with lots of time on my hands that needs to be used. I have > much programming and systems experience, a fair amount of exposure to C > and UNIX in its many forms. I am a past consultant to IBM in the constructio n > of HELP files using a form of SGML. I will try to do as much as I can to > help in this effort. > > Jack B. McAlister > 3301 Hedgewood Drive Apt. A > Prescott Valley, AZ 86314 > 520-775-3137 > email burnett@primenet.com > From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 28 10:30:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21342 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21337 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id KAA23334 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:30:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512281830.KAA23334@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:29:50 -0800 To: docs@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi Jordan: You've done a great job on the install menus etc for 2.1. I do have some suggestions though: I had a few hours of confusion when trying to install via ftp from a Windows machine on my in-house LAN. I use WinQVT, which has an ftp server built in. My CDROM is on the E: drive on the windows box. The URL I supplied for ftp install was ftp://142.58.14.242/e:/dists, as that is the subdir on the CD ROM containing the bin directory, etc. First off, install didn't seem to like the "e:" in the URL. This should be passed to the host intact for parsing at the host machine. Secondly, the relationship of the options editor "Package" string (or whatever it's called, it has 2.1.0-RELEASE as a default value, and the target directory on the specified host, is not specified and very confusing. As the install failed, I finally (with the help of some guys on "questions") deduced that this variable must be appended to the path given in the URL to give the target directory on the host. Install must have been looking for: ftp://142.58.14.242/e:/dists/2.1.0-RELEASE is my assumption. I may be wrong. Am I? I'm noting that this should be documented for the user wanting to install from a CD on a dos or windows machine on the same net. I used anonymous login, and reconfigured WinQVT to have e:/dists as the root directory for anonymous login. Still no go. I would also suggest that for user-specified URLs, that the default path be set to the same tree structure on the CD, so that the /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE directory lookup does not fail. Perhaps I should have set the options editor variable to "e:/dists" and left the URL as ftp://142.58.14.242? See what I mean? Some docs would be helpful. In any case, I ended up getting the base stuff from ftp.freebsd.org. This was initially unsuccessful as well, as I received msgs that "all specified distributions were not present on the server" listing bin, manpages, info, etc. I had restored all values in the options editor to defaults using WHAP! before this, of course. I found this very unusual as I was using the primary site. It wasn't a login problem, I logged in as ftp successfully. I finally used ftp://ftp.freebsd.org as a user-specified URL and succeeded in getting the base stuff that way. There was some confusion until I discovered that I had to include /pub/FreeBSD with the URL, however. Once I had the base stuff I manually retrieved all the distributions (source code, etc) that I needed by ftping to my Windows box, and finished it all up by hand. Here's a suggestion: It would be nice to have an option in the install whereupon the user could drop to the shell and do the ftping of dists manually, like the standard method used in 1.1. I realize that there's a shell on VTY4, but I could not find ftp (it's not in /stand and ls doesn't work so I can't even tell where to look although ftp must be there somewhere...). Again, some docs on this shell would be helpful. Just some feedback, I hope it's useful... Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 28 10:44:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21777 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21771 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id KAA24039 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:44:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512281844.KAA24039@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:43:45 -0800 To: docs@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: My previous msg Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi again: I don't subscribe to the "docs" list (if in fact it IS a list) so if you have any reply please send it to me directly. Thanks Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 28 10:53:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA22272 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22263 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id KAA24473 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:53:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512281853.KAA24473@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:52:44 -0800 To: doc@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Mis-directed messages to "docs" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've submitted two messages to "docs@freebsd.org" in error. Perhaps someone can re-direct them to "doc"... Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 28 15:01:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06382 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06373 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id KAA00764 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:00:41 +1100 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:00:38 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199512281830.KAA23334@ferrari.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > > The URL I supplied for ftp install was ftp://142.58.14.242/e:/dists, as that > is the subdir on the CD ROM containing the bin directory, etc. This, I think is your problem. I have never had to enter a drive letter when ftp'ing anywhere. I think you should try ftp'ing to your windows machine using another ftp program, and discover what you have to enter to get to the CDROM. It would not surprise me if there was a configuration item for your windows FTP host that allowed you to set the root directory for people ftp'ing in. (Something like "default directory", under "FTP", under "SETUP" perhaps ?) You would point this root dir at your CDROM. Anthony From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 28 15:11:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07056 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07026 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA12500 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:10:41 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA05715 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for doc@freebsd.org); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:10:15 +0100 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA07248 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:16:27 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA01971 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 21:24:02 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199512282024.VAA01971@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Has the copyright dust settled? To: doc@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Doc Project) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 21:24:01 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Maybe I missed it, but what was the final outcome of the copyright 'war' (for lack of a better word..) ? I'd like to adapt the stuff I wrote to the outcome of it. No use in writing stuff others are hesitant to use.. :-/ Wilko _ __________________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 29 01:04:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08459 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.enet (slip139-92-42-144.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.144]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08451 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.enet (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA11022; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:46:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:46:22 +0100 (MET) From: "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <199512282346.AAA11022@vector.enet> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook201.html#330 Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH [version 1.6.5 95 12 11] Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -------- Suggestion for http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook201.html#330 < For the main FreeBSD distribution useing the standard-supfile: ^ > For the main FreeBSD distribution using the standard-supfile : [ ... or of course /usr/share/examples/sup/standard-supfile ... depending on your philosophy of whether you'r writing for users or developers (user will have /usr/share, current users may prefer /usr/src/share ) ] PS I suggest the minimum of prepended http:// references, to avoid un-necessary web usage & congestion etc (nice to keep in local /usr/src where pos. :-). Regards, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 29 13:03:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13487 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13474 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA05343; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:03:28 -0800 To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: docs@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:29:50 PST." <199512281830.KAA23334@ferrari.sfu.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:03:28 -0800 Message-ID: <5341.820271008@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > My CDROM is on the E: drive on the windows box. > > The URL I supplied for ftp install was ftp://142.58.14.242/e:/dists, as that > is the subdir on the CD ROM containing the bin directory, etc. Are you SURE your ftp client works that way? Mine on NT doesn't - it just plops you into whichever directory you designate as `E'. I tried it as an FTP server for a FreeBSD 2.1 CD and it worked just great as an install point.. :-) > Secondly, the relationship of the options editor "Package" string (or > whatever it's called, it has 2.1.0-RELEASE as a default value, and the > target directory on the specified host, is not specified and very confusing. The options in general are poorly handled. This will hopefully change once I hack the dialog library to occupy only certain areas of the screen. Now that I've added display and action callbacks to the libdialog stuff (and should add entry and exit callbacks too, it just occurred to me! :-) I can use the two to make options fully context sensitive. When you traverse over a given choice, any modifiers for it can pop up in an options editing area. I'm still working it out, but there's a lot of potential there. > give the target directory on the host. Install must have been looking for: > > ftp://142.58.14.242/e:/dists/2.1.0-RELEASE > > is my assumption. I may be wrong. Am I? I'm noting that this should be Sort of. The install first tries the `naked' path to whatever resource it's looking for (e.g. dists/bin/*) and only tries the path/${relname} directory if the first attempt fails. It tries about 4 probes into the source media, actually, using different combinations of ${relname} and "dists/" prefix information. > I would also suggest that for user-specified URLs, that the default path be > set to the same tree structure on the CD, so that the Well, I just use the user-specified ones alone. How do I know what weird formats they've specified? Best not to modify it. > Here's a suggestion: It would be nice to have an option in the install > whereupon the user could drop to the shell and do the ftping of dists > manually, like the standard method used in 1.1. I realize that there's a There's no space for an ftp client - what you think of as `ftp' is sysinstall's own ftp client driver. Maybe somebody else feels like writing a CLI for it, I dunno. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 29 15:41:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23275 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23262 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00366; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:37:15 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:37:13 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook - printer setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I spent most of last night trying to set up a printer for the first time ever under Unix following the Handbook step-by-step. On the whole, it was quite a good set of instructions, but there were one or two points that may be worth picking up. Due to the staircase effect, the "Printer on a Parallel Port" test appeared to only produce one line of output on my DeskJet 520, which was a bit alarming until I realised what was happening. It does say "You should see something print. Don't worry if the text doesn't look right; we'll fix such things later"; perhaps this could be changed to "You should see something print. Don't worry if the text doesn't look right, or if it disappears at the end of the first line; we'll fix such things later."? The bit that really had me tearing my hair out was when I tried to use the suggested text filter - I kept getting errors 'execv of /usr/local/libexec/hpif failed'. After checking the paths and were correct, checking that the filter was world-readable and executable and successfully piping into and out of the filter by hand I was at a complete loss. I then noticed that the supplied /usr/libexec/lpf didn't have this problem. It did cross my mind that it could be a problem with something being setuid. However, the Handbook says that the text filter is run by lpd, which is not setuid or setgid on my system, so I assumed it was something else. As I had by now completely run out of ideas, I compiled a C program which did the same as hpif. This worked! So the only explanation I can think of is that it is a setuid problem and it's actually one of the other lp? programs which execv's the filter (sorry, I know nothing about how print spoolers work). Anyway, something needs changing in this part of the documentation. If it's any use, here's the C program I used:- #include #define LINELEN 255 #define INITSTR "\033&k2G" main() { char buf[LINELEN]; if (printf(INITSTR) == 0) exit(2); while (fgets(buf, LINELEN, stdin)) printf(buf); printf("\f"); return 0; } (Yes, this is the first time I've ever checked the return value from printf 8-) And here's the one I used for Ghostscript (I used different printer names for text and gs, so I didn't bother with the magic number test):- #include #define LINELEN 255 main() { char buf[LINELEN]; FILE *fp; if ((fp = popen("/usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q \ -sDEVICE=deskjet -sOutputFile=- -", "w")) == NULL) exit(2); while (fread(buf, 1, LINELEN, stdin) == LINELEN) if(fwrite(buf, 1, LINELEN, fp) != LINELEN) exit(2); pclose(fp); printf("\f"); return 0; } This had me tearing my hair out as well, due to a Ghostscript bug which I've reported to them (it was using an undocumented feature of the DeskJet500 that doesn't work on my DJ520), but that's another story! Cheers James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature'