From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 4 10:33:42 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA21432 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:33:42 -0700 Received: from io.org (root@io.org [142.77.27.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA21424 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:33:40 -0700 Received: from trepan.io.org (apollo@trepan.io.org [198.133.36.8]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA11366 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:33:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:33:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Herdman To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: VLB Supported? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello; This may sound like a silly question, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere so I'm going to ask it. I have a DX/2 VLB motherboard, with no PCI slots. Right now I am running with a slow trident video card, so X is a bit painful. I'd like to get a new card, either a Mach32 Vram or Mach64. If I buy a card for the VLB is it supported? I have re-built the kernel, pulled out all the PCI defines, but there don't seem to be any VLB defines. Is VLB automatically supported? Thanks Andrew From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 4 10:49:45 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA22501 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:49:45 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA22492 ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 10:49:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199506041749.KAA22492@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Andrew Herdman cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VLB Supported? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Jun 95 13:33:35 EDT." Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 10:49:43 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hello; > >This may sound like a silly question, but I haven't seen it mentioned >anywhere so I'm going to ask it. > >I have a DX/2 VLB motherboard, with no PCI slots. Right now I am running >with a slow trident video card, so X is a bit painful. I'd like to get a >new card, either a Mach32 Vram or Mach64. If I buy a card for the VLB >is it supported? I have re-built the kernel, pulled out all the PCI >defines, but there don't seem to be any VLB defines. Is VLB >automatically supported? > >Thanks >Andrew VLB is supported by default. There is no need to remove any of the PCI code to make it work either. If you don't want the PCI code in your kernel, don't include the pci0 device in your kernel config file. -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 5 01:31:17 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA09668 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:31:17 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA09659 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:31:15 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id BAA14128 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:16:32 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id BAA12263 ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:15:01 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199506042315.BAA12263@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: VLB Supported? To: apollo@io.org (Andrew Herdman) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:15:01 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Herdman" at Jun 4, 95 01:33:35 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD BUILT-19950501 ctm#617 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 433 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > is it supported? I have re-built the kernel, pulled out all the PCI > defines, but there don't seem to be any VLB defines. Is VLB > automatically supported? Yes, you're not supposed and I don't think the system does, to make any difference between std iso periph and VLB ones. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD keltia 2.0-BUILT-19950503 #3: Wed May 3 19:53:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 6 17:07:21 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21402 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:07:21 -0700 Received: from tfs.com (mailhub.tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA21396 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:07:20 -0700 From: mb@TFS.COM Received: from bgchub by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP Received: by bgchub (4.1/client-1.5) id AA01092; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:07:12 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:07:12 PDT Message-Id: <9506070007.AA01092@bgchub> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: recommended notebook? Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm planning to buy a notebook pc on which to run FreeBSD (or perhaps NetBSD or linux), and I'm looking for advice. The purpose is to do software development as a hobby, compiling and browsing code; to get familiar with system code; and also to serve as a remote SLIP X-terminal to my paying job. A typical load would be 1 user reading many files in emacs while compiling. Is it practical to get a laptop for this (costing less than $3000)? >From news postings and FAQ's, my impresion is that : - a 486DX-4/100 with at least 12M memory and a large (>500M) disk would be adequate. - a PCI bus and a SCSI disk would be much better than ISA/IDE. Plus I would want a CD-ROM drive and a 14.4k modem, and an external SCSI jack. This seems easy to find as a desktop system; is it possible as a laptop? I like portability, but don't want to pay too much more in $ or in speed. How do the "clones" (Patriot, ChemBook, etc) compare to the "name brands" (Compaq etc.)? I appreciate any recommendations, warnings, or tips, as to system configuration, brand names, or places to buy. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 6 17:11:11 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA21627 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:11:11 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA21619 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:11:10 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA29557; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:11:09 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199506070011.RAA29557@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: recommended notebook? To: mb@TFS.COM Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506070007.AA01092@bgchub> from "mb@TFS.COM" at Jun 6, 95 05:07:12 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 603 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >From news postings and FAQ's, my impresion is that : > - a 486DX-4/100 with at least 12M memory and a large (>500M) disk > would be adequate. > - a PCI bus and a SCSI disk would be much better than ISA/IDE. > Plus I would want a CD-ROM drive and a 14.4k modem, and an external > SCSI jack. Gateway 2000 Liberty is your machine. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Just that: dried leaves in boiling water ? From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 6 23:06:52 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA02787 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:06:52 -0700 Received: from isua1.iastate.edu (isua1.iastate.edu [129.186.6.132]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA02779 ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:06:50 -0700 Received: by isua1.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:06:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9506070606.AA21612@isua1.iastate.edu> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: 3c509 driver... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <21611.802505208.1@localhost> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 01:06:49 CDT From: Chris Csanady Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello. anyway, i have a problem. currently im running NetBSD, and am planning on switching to FreeBSD, but i need fast and reliable networking. i heard that the current driver in FreeBSD was not very stable.. anyways, i was wondering, how hard it would be to port the ep driver from netbsd? it looks as though they were at one point the same driver even.. if this would be trivial, could some kind person help me out? i have never done any work with kernel/driver stuff before. :( thanks, chris ccsanady (ccsanady@iastate.edu) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 6 23:12:53 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA03139 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:12:53 -0700 Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.50]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA03120 ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 23:12:47 -0700 Received: (from smace@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id BAA01160; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:10:27 -0500 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199506070610.BAA01160@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: Re: 3c509 driver... To: ccsanady@iastate.edu (Chris Csanady) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:10:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506070606.AA21612@isua1.iastate.edu> from "Chris Csanady" at Jun 7, 95 01:06:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 730 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm used 509's with FreeBSD very reliably since 2.0R (I know, I've been lucky under 2.0R) but they do work quite well under 2.0.5A and April snap relese. > > hello. anyway, i have a problem. currently im running NetBSD, and > am planning on switching to FreeBSD, but i need fast and reliable > networking. i heard that the current driver in FreeBSD was not very > stable.. anyways, i was wondering, how hard it would be to port > the ep driver from netbsd? it looks as though they were at one point > the same driver even.. > > if this would be trivial, could some kind person help me out? i have > never done any work with kernel/driver stuff before. :( > > thanks, > chris ccsanady (ccsanady@iastate.edu) > > From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 01:27:37 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA08288 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:27:37 -0700 Received: from hq.icb.chel.su (icb-rich-gw.icb.chel.su [193.125.10.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA08224 ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 01:26:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (babkin@localhost) by hq.icb.chel.su (8.6.5/8.6.5) id OAA04237; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:25:27 +0500 From: "Serge A. Babkin" Message-Id: <199506070925.OAA04237@hq.icb.chel.su> Subject: Re: 3c509 driver... To: ccsanady@iastate.edu (Chris Csanady) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:25:26 +0500 (GMT+0500) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506070606.AA21612@isua1.iastate.edu> from "Chris Csanady" at Jun 7, 95 01:06:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 919 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > hello. anyway, i have a problem. currently im running NetBSD, and > am planning on switching to FreeBSD, but i need fast and reliable > networking. i heard that the current driver in FreeBSD was not very > stable.. anyways, i was wondering, how hard it would be to port I'm running FreeBSD on my `workstation' with 3c509 card and I see no problems now. If doesnt't conflict with any other driver it works OK and gives upto 1.1Mbyte/s on receiving of 20M file. I don't know what would be with more heavy usage. > the ep driver from netbsd? it looks as though they were at one point > the same driver even.. I'm not shure but perhaps it will be easy. > if this would be trivial, could some kind person help me out? i have > never done any work with kernel/driver stuff before. :( Serge Babkin ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" ! Chelyabinsk, Russia From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 04:44:12 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA15318 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 04:44:12 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA15296 ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 04:44:01 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.3) id HAA21178; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:43:17 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199506071143.HAA21178@hda.com> Subject: Re: 3c509 driver... To: ccsanady@iastate.edu (Chris Csanady) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 07:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9506070606.AA21612@isua1.iastate.edu> from "Chris Csanady" at Jun 7, 95 01:06:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 830 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Csanady writes: > > hello. anyway, i have a problem. currently im running NetBSD, and > am planning on switching to FreeBSD, but i need fast and reliable > networking. i heard that the current driver in FreeBSD was not very > stable.. anyways, i was wondering, how hard it would be to port > the ep driver from netbsd? it looks as though they were at one point > the same driver even.. > > if this would be trivial, could some kind person help me out? i have > never done any work with kernel/driver stuff before. :( I use a 3C509 with no problems. There are only 5 machines on this ethernet, but I haven't detected a single problem. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 09:03:13 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA23978 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:03:13 -0700 Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.212.50]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA23971 ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:03:11 -0700 Received: (from smace@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) id LAA02283; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:01:15 -0500 From: Scott Mace Message-Id: <199506071601.LAA02283@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: experiences with DEC DEFxA FDDI cards? To: hackers@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:01:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 122 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for any info on the Digital DEFxA fddi cards or any other fddi cards supported by freebsd. Thanks, Scott From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 09:58:05 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25465 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:58:05 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA25459 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:58:02 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA07345 for hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:42:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199506071642.JAA07345@everest> Subject: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 158 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to remember that someone was working on support for the Digiboard PC/Xe (intelligent) multiport serial cards. Does anyone know what's up with this? From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 11:24:28 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA29711 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:24:28 -0700 Received: from apollo.hq.nasa.gov (apollo.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.87]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29693 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:24:26 -0700 Received: from wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (wirehead.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.88]) by apollo.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA00679; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:25:24 GMT Received: from localhost (cshenton@localhost) by wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16942; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:25:24 GMT Message-Id: <199506071825.SAA16942@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: cshenton owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol cc: bmk@dtr.com To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 1995 09:42:09 PDT." <199506071642.JAA07345@everest> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <16938.802549519.1@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 14:25:23 -0400 From: Chris Shenton Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT), bmk@dtr.com said: bmk> I seem to remember that someone was working on support for the Digiboard bmk> PC/Xe (intelligent) multiport serial cards. Does anyone know what's up bmk> with this? Ditto. We're planning on bringing up a 6-8 line PPP server here on FBSD. Modii are on the way, but we haven't picked up a multiport serial board yet. Any suggestions? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 12:01:06 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA00907 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:01:06 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA00900 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:01:04 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.3) id PAA23065; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:00:13 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199506071900.PAA23065@hda.com> Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: cshenton@apollo.hq.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506071825.SAA16942@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> from "Chris Shenton" at Jun 7, 95 02:25:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1990 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Shenton writes: > > On Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT), bmk@dtr.com said: > > bmk> I seem to remember that someone was working on support for the Digiboard > bmk> PC/Xe (intelligent) multiport serial cards. Does anyone know what's up > bmk> with this? > > Ditto. We're planning on bringing up a 6-8 line PPP server here on > FBSD. Modii are on the way, but we haven't picked up a multiport > serial board yet. Any suggestions? > (Hi Chris. Haven't seen you since the twilight of Alliant.) Serge Babkin is working on a DigiBoard driver based on the GPL'd Linux driver, however he no longer has hardware and so a like minded hacker may want to help out or take over. I'm personally staying away since I'd rather see a BSD copyright solution and don't want to mess with the Linux driver. Serge's last mail was: > Does somebody wants to test the Digiboard driver ? It's not a complete > driver now, it's a part only. The problem is I began to wrote > this driver and then lost access to the card. I need volunteers > to carry out any experiments. > > > Serge Babkin > > ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) > ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" > ! Chelyabinsk, Russia The programming information is available only under NDA with Digiboard, and I didn't want to be in the hot seat for a binary-only distribution and so I instead went with a multiport Boca board for my application. I encourage any Digiboard enthusiasts to register polite interest in a FreeBSD driver with the Digiboard people. I know they have a www.digibd.com with some "fill in the blanks" thing for expressing interest in such things; I don't know of the right e-mail address for that. Since they elected to make a Linux GPL driver available they may decide that a FreeBSD driver is in their interest. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 12:04:22 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA00980 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:04:22 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA00962 ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:04:19 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA19056; Wed, 7 Jun 95 01:36:26 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9506070736.AA19056@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: 3c509 driver... To: smace@crash.ops.neosoft.com (Scott Mace) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 95 1:36:25 MDT Cc: ccsanady@iastate.edu, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506070610.BAA01160@crash.ops.neosoft.com> from "Scott Mace" at Jun 7, 95 01:10:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm used 509's with FreeBSD very reliably since 2.0R (I know, I've been > lucky under 2.0R) > but they do work quite well under 2.0.5A and April snap relese. Even if plug-n-play is on or you were running DOS/Linux/Windows before a warm boot, according to recent reports. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 16:21:47 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA22243 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:21:47 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA22237 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:21:45 -0700 Received: from zeta by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id SAA25309; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 18:25:33 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by zeta (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00346; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:20:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Burns X-Sender: root@zeta To: babkin@hq.tcb.chel.su cc: bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Peter Dufault wrote: > > Serge's last mail was: > > > Does somebody wants to test the Digiboard driver ? It's not a complete > > driver now, it's a part only. The problem is I began to wrote > > this driver and then lost access to the card. I need volunteers > > to carry out any experiments. > > > > > > Serge Babkin > > > > ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) > > ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" > > ! Chelyabinsk, Russia Serge I am very interested in helping you out. I've been trying to work around the linux driver but no luck. I also contacted digiboard but the person I spoke with never even heard of Free(Net)BSD. I have a PcXe (Intelligent) 8 port board I have been desperately trying to get working. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 7 16:53:30 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA23146 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:53:30 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA23140 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:53:28 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.3) id TAA27158; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:51:18 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199506072351.TAA27158@hda.com> Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: rjbproc@Vir.com (Robert Burns) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Cc: babkin@hq.tcb.chel.su, bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org, info@digibd.com In-Reply-To: from "Robert Burns" at Jun 7, 95 07:20:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1706 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Burns writes: > > On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Peter Dufault wrote: > > > > Serge's last mail was: > > > > > Does somebody wants to test the Digiboard driver ? It's not a complete > > > driver now, it's a part only. The problem is I began to wrote > > > this driver and then lost access to the card. I need volunteers > > > to carry out any experiments. > > > > > > > > > Serge Babkin > > > > > > ! (babkin@hq.icb.chel.su) > > > ! Headquarter of Joint Stock Commercial Bank "Chelindbank" > > > ! Chelyabinsk, Russia > > Serge > > I am very interested in helping you out. I've been trying to work around > the linux driver but no luck. I also contacted digiboard but the person > I spoke with never even heard of Free(Net)BSD. I have a PcXe (Intelligent) > 8 port board I have been desperately trying to get working. There is an "info@digibd.com" address that you can send requests for a BSD-style copyright driver for FreeBSD support to. If this fails, I'll sign the DigiBoard NDA and do the work as long as I don't lose out too much financially. Someone will have to loan me a board and I'll fork out the $200.00 for the programming info but will release the binary-only driver as shareware, confident that at least some of the FreeBSD crowd will reimburse me for the support time. We've had a constant stream of requests for DigiBoard support, with about five this week. The support is the real issue for a binary-only driver: the support headache will fall on the individual willing to sign the NDA with Digi. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 8 05:24:46 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA09704 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:24:46 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA09698 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:24:42 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA00718; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:08:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199506081208.FAA00718@everest> Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506072351.TAA27158@hda.com> from "Peter Dufault" at Jun 7, 95 07:51:18 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1367 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am very interested in helping you out. I've been trying to work around > > the linux driver but no luck. I also contacted digiboard but the person > > I spoke with never even heard of Free(Net)BSD. I have a PcXe (Intelligent) > > 8 port board I have been desperately trying to get working. > There is an "info@digibd.com" address that you can send requests > for a BSD-style copyright driver for FreeBSD support to. > If this fails, I'll sign the DigiBoard NDA and do the work as long as > I don't lose out too much financially. Someone will have to loan > me a board and I'll fork out the $200.00 for the programming info > but will release the binary-only driver as shareware, confident > that at least some of the FreeBSD crowd will reimburse me for the > support time. We've had a constant stream of requests for DigiBoard > support, with about five this week. > The support is the real issue for a binary-only driver: the support > headache will fall on the individual willing to sign the NDA with > Digi. Peter, I'd be happy to loan you a board. I can't speak for anyone else, of course, but I'm more than willing to send some cash your way for a driver and whatever support you're willing to offer. P.S. - Sorry 'bout the previous replies directed at questions-*. My brain doesn't start working until 0600 and I haven't had my coffee yet. :) From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 8 06:37:58 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA12214 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:37:58 -0700 Received: from apollo.hq.nasa.gov (apollo.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.87]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA12208 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:37:57 -0700 Received: from wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (wirehead.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.121.88]) by apollo.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA01952; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:38:53 GMT Received: from localhost (cshenton@localhost) by wirehead.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA18013; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:38:51 GMT Message-Id: <199506081338.NAA18013@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: cshenton owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.hq.nasa.gov: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Peter Dufault cc: bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 1995 15:00:13 EDT." <199506071900.PAA23065@hda.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18009.802618725.1@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 09:38:50 -0400 From: Chris Shenton Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:00:13 -0400 (EDT), Peter Dufault said: Peter> Serge Babkin is working on a DigiBoard driver based on the Peter> GPL'd Linux driver, however he no longer has hardware and so a Peter> like minded hacker may want to help out or take over. I'm Peter> personally staying away since I'd rather see a BSD copyright Peter> solution and don't want to mess with the Linux driver. Ummmmmm, I don't think I have the skills to write a driver, and I'm pretty new to FBSD. I saw the message though, and may get in touch with Serge. Peter> The programming information is available only under NDA with Peter> Digiboard, and I didn't want to be in the hot seat for a Peter> binary-only distribution and so I instead went with a multiport Peter> Boca board for my application. It's supported? I remember seeing in the FAQ about serial boards that some didn't support HW flow control, and other various problems. Does the Boca do what you want? Peter> I encourage any Digiboard enthusiasts to register polite Peter> interest in a FreeBSD driver with the Digiboard people. I know Peter> they have a www.digibd.com with some "fill in the blanks" thing Peter> for expressing interest in such things; I don't know of the Peter> right e-mail address for that. Since they elected to make a Peter> Linux GPL driver available they may decide that a FreeBSD Peter> driver is in their interest. Ah, yeah, I've seen their web. I'll drop them a polite note. Thanks again!! From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 8 06:46:59 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA12344 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:46:59 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA12338 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:46:56 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.3) id JAA04976; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:46:05 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199506081346.JAA04976@hda.com> Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: cshenton@apollo.hq.nasa.gov (Chris Shenton) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506081338.NAA18013@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> from "Chris Shenton" at Jun 8, 95 09:38:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1124 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Shenton writes: > > On Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:00:13 -0400 (EDT), Peter Dufault said: > > > Peter> The programming information is available only under NDA with > Peter> Digiboard, and I didn't want to be in the hot seat for a > Peter> binary-only distribution and so I instead went with a multiport > Peter> Boca board for my application. > > It's supported? I remember seeing in the FAQ about serial boards that > some didn't support HW flow control, and other various problems. Does > the Boca do what you want? The Boca board is working OK for me. I have an 8 port board (the BocaBoard BB1008) without modem control talking to four microprocessor controlled devices using a custom line discipline (four lines are spare). The devices I'm talking to don't have modem control anyway. As mentioned previously, the 16 port Boca board does have modem control. Directions for configuring the Boca boards are in "man sio". Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 8 07:16:26 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA13181 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:16:26 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA13174 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:16:22 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: from rainier (rainier.dtr.com [204.119.48.36]) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA03121; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:00:15 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by rainier (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA00495; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:13:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199506081413.HAA00495@rainier> Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cshenton@apollo.hq.nasa.gov, bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199506081346.JAA04976@hda.com> from "Peter Dufault" at Jun 8, 95 09:46:05 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 524 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Chris Shenton writes: > > some didn't support HW flow control, and other various problems. Does > > the Boca do what you want? > The Boca board is working OK for me. I have an 8 port board (the > BocaBoard BB1008) without modem control talking to four microprocessor > controlled devices using a custom line discipline (four lines are > spare). The devices I'm talking to don't have modem control anyway. > As mentioned previously, the 16 port Boca board does have modem control. .... as does the six port board. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 8 17:55:18 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA04544 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:55:18 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04538 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:55:16 -0700 Received: from zeta by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id TAA27242; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 19:58:52 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by zeta (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA00369; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:54:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Burns X-Sender: root@zeta To: Peter Dufault cc: Chris Shenton , bmk@dtr.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Peter Dufault wrote: > Serge Babkin is working on a DigiBoard driver based on the GPL'd Linux > driver, however he no longer has hardware and so a like minded hacker > may want to help out or take over. I'm personally staying away since > I'd rather see a BSD copyright solution and don't want to mess with the > Linux driver. > > Serge's last mail was: > > > Does somebody wants to test the Digiboard driver ? It's not a complete > > driver now, it's a part only. The problem is I began to wrote > > this driver and then lost access to the card. I need volunteers > > to carry out any experiments. > > > > > > Serge Babkin > > Peter > I have a PC/8e board and I've contacted Serge Babkin, I'm not a unix whiz but he has agreed to let me help him test his driver. Also posted a request at info@digidb.com. I tried them before but was not successful. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 9 08:27:37 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA13263 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:27:37 -0700 Received: from pris.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (pris.EEAP.CWRU.Edu [129.22.56.99]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA13257 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:27:35 -0700 Received: from marvin.EEAP.CWRU.Edu by pris.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (4.1/CWRU-1.4-snrub client) id AA15615; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:27:38 EDT (from ljo for hardware@freebsd.org) Message-Id: <9506091527.AA15615@pris.EEAP.CWRU.Edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:27:38 EDT From: L Jonas Olsson Received: by marvin.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (4.1/CWRU-1.4-snrub client) id AA13153; Fri, 9 Jun 95 11:27:32 EDT (from ljo ) To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Cc: ljo@po.CWRU.Edu Subject: Fast Pentium boards? (SMP) Reply-To: ljo@po.CWRU.Edu Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for fast SMP Pentium boards. In general there isn't much really interesting right now. This might change with the new Genie chip set from Acer. It supports individual 2nd level cache for each Pentium/K5/M1. Acer doesn't think that there will be any systems out with it until October though and no motherboards for a few months after that. But at that time there might also be P6's or some new chipset from Intel. I found this one that seems interesting though. Any guesses how this boards cache speed compares to that of Triton with pipelined cache? Or what is the difference between pipelined and synch aka burst cache? Manufacturer: Tyan Computers Model: S1462 aka Tempest Type: Dual Pentium 75/90/100/120 Chipset: Neptune Cache: 256/512 kB option Standard or Burst SRAM options Cache hit cycle: Burst (Synchronous) Reads: 3-1-1-1 Writes: 3-1-1-1 Standard(Asynchrounous) Reads: 3-2-2-2 Writes: 4-2-2-2 Main Memory: Eight 72 pin SIMM sockets BIOS: AMI or Award Expansion slots: Four PCI, Four EISA, one shared PCI/EISA Supposedly runs: DOS, Windows, Windows NT, OS/2 (Warp), NetWare(3.1) and SCO UNIX. Tested with: Adaptec 2940, 2940W, 2930P, 3985, 3940, 2742. Buslogic 946C, 956C, 956CD, 747 Tyan S1365 (PCI, NCR825; fast and wide) ... The sheet with all the benchmarks shows (among many): Win-Tune 2.0 under Windows NT (2.0) RAM (MB/s) 512 kB Burst: 21.0 256 kB Burst: 18.0 256 kB Async: 15.0 I have a quote for this MB with 64MB RAM, 256 kB burst cache (supposedly 9ns synch), two P120's, Large tower with 2 fans and 300W PS, Adaptec 2940, Conner 1GB, 3.5" floppy, Trident 512kB VGA, NMB 101 kB, 1 yr. on-site service for $5575 (Cornell computers). (I would upgrade the trident...) For other fast SMP Pentiums right now it seems that you have to buy complete systems from ALR, Tricord, or Compaq. At least Tricord sells up to quad Pentiums with 1MB 2nd level cache for each Pentium. Compaq also have a third level cache shared by all Pentiums... Jonas From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 9 09:26:04 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA18186 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:26:04 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA18180 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:25:59 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <43055>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 18:24:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA24948; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:41:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199506081541.RAA24948@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Chris Shenton cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org, bmk@dtr.com Subject: Re: Digiboard PC/Xe support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 1995 20:25:23 +0200." <199506071825.SAA16942@wirehead.hq.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:41:27 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We're planning on bringing up a 6-8 line PPP server here on > FBSD. Modii are on the way, but we haven't picked up a multiport > serial board yet. Any suggestions? I use # Card Name: Decision 8801. # Manufacturer: Decision Computer Int. Co., Ltd. # Comment: 8 Port Hardware documented in /sys/i386/isa/isa_8com.h # 8 * NS16450N, Selectable: irq 2,irq 3,irq 4,irq 5,irq 6,irq 7. options "COM_MULTIPORT" # Multiport support in sys/isa/sio.c but I haven't tried it with ppp yet, only slip, & haven't stressed it at hi speed basically the card works, but the '450s are soldered, so its maybe not the card for you. Julian S From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 9 09:27:42 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA18435 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:27:42 -0700 Received: from eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA18425 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:27:29 -0700 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.142.36]) by eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de with SMTP id <43019>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 18:25:18 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA24278; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:25:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199506081325.PAA24278@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: mb@TFS.COM cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: recommended notebook? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jun 1995 02:07:12 +0200." <9506070007.AA01092@bgchub> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:25:52 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm planning to buy a notebook pc on which to run FreeBSD (or perhaps > NetBSD or linux), Sounds like you need masses of general background, that would flood this specific FreeBSD list (if people have time to type it) I suggest you go read the FAQs for PC Unix hardware, you'll find them dup'd in spool/news.answers on your news host ... wherever ;-) Julian S