From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 09:37:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA18889 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:37:34 -0800 Received: from sycgate.sycomore.fr (sycgate.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA18856 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:36:56 -0800 Received: from [192.134.92.80] (unknown.sycomore.fr [192.134.92.80]) by sycgate.sycomore.fr (8.6.3/8.5) with SMTP id SAA18918; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:18:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:18:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199512041718.SAA18918@sycgate.sycomore.fr> X-Sender: bigot@192.134.92.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: Eudora F1.4.2 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Herve.Bigot@sycomore.fr (Bigot Hervé) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello , We desperatly try to compile a new kernel of FreeBSD 2.0( distributed by InfoMagic on CD Rom), following the procedure shown in the FAQ. Even when we use the 'MINI' configuration file, the compilation aborts at linking. The end of messages after the beginning of the compilation is: ... loading kernel kern_systcl.o:Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Our PC is not Intel-based but Cyrix M7 486DX2/66, can it be the source of the problem ?? Please help. thank you. Hervé Bigot E-mail (W): Hervé.Bigot@sycomore.fr ______________________________________________________________________________ Sycomore: 31, Place des Corolles,92098 Paris la Defense cedex 31, FRANCE Tel (+33 1) 41-26-46-53 Fax (+33 1) 41-26-46-47 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 13:53:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA03523 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 13:53:18 -0800 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA03508 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 13:53:07 -0800 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA21860; Mon, 4 Dec 95 15:53:03 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA29106; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:53:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:53:03 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512042153.AA29106@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: WTB: Terminals Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This isn't FreeBSD-related, but you're a nice group of people who are more-often-than-not in-the-know: I got tired of continually watching misc.forsale.computers.other.misc for used terminals. Does anyone know of (or is) a source for used terminals? I'm in the market for Wyse-50 or comparable, for about $100. Pointers? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I've never seen electricity, so I don't pay for it. I write right on the bill, "I'm sorry, I haven't seen it all month." -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 15:51:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA13180 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:51:28 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA13163 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:51:14 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id AAA29994 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:51:06 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id AAA02374 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:51:05 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.2/keltia-uucp-2.7) id AAA00271 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:50:20 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199512042350.AAA00271@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Weird problem with ether card To: hardware@freebsd.org (Hardware Mailing list) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:50:19 +0100 (MET) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1404 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk When an Ethernet card begin to see or emit packets like the following during a simple "ping", is the card dead or what ? Some packets go fine for a while then lose some then is good again ad vitam eternam. The card on the BSD side is a WD 8013EP which worked fine till sunday. The other side is a sparcbook but it shouldn't matter. I've changed cables, changed to the AUI port with an external transeiver, used RJ45 twisted cable with 10BT transeiver but no change. ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 maddr 0xcc000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:4d:ed:08, type WD8013EP (16 bit) tcpdump output: 15:19:17.934019 0:0:0:a2:0:1 > 0:0:0:4d:0:8 null I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 0059 0000 0001 005a 0038 0043 0038 0041 0000 001c 00e8 007f 00c1 000a 000d 00a0 0009 000b 000d 000f 0011 0013 0015 0017 0019 15:19:20.934289 0:0:0:a2:0:1 null > 0:0:0:4d:0:8 sap 41 I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 145c 0000 2001 2657 0038 2a43 0038 2a41 0800 0916 04e8 0082 00c1 000d 000d 00a0 0009 000b 000d 000f 0011 0013 0015 0017 0019 15:19:21.933658 0:0:80:a2:0:1 null > 0:0:0:4d:e5:8 sap 04 I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 895d 0000 e901 2556 c138 0243 4038 0841 0000 0814 00e8 0083 00c1 000e 000d 89a0 0009 000b 080d 000f 0011 0013 0415 0017 0019 15:19:22.933656 truncated-ip - 38 bytes missing!64.56.0.67 > 65.56.48.65: icmp: parameter problem - code 94 15:19:23.933616 [|ip] 15:19:24.933616 truncated-ip - 4 bytes missing!128.56.56.67 > 1.56.50.65: icmp: type-#152 15:19:25.933706 0:0:3:a2:0:1 null > 0:0:0:4d:c1:8 sap 04 I (s=42,r=0,P) len=240 1561 0000 b401 2352 8038 0843 0138 1041 0800 100c 14e8 0087 10c1 b012 000d 90a0 0809 000b 000d 0a0f 1011 0213 0415 0017 1819 15:19:26.933608 truncated-ip - 6 bytes missing!0.56.10.67 > 128.56.42.65: icmp: type-#128 15:19:27.933653 0:0:0:a2:2:1 > 0:0:80:4d:24:8 null I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 1563 0000 2601 0750 0038 0843 0038 0241 0800 0808 10e8 0089 00c1 8014 000d 82a0 0009 020b 040d 000f 0011 0213 0415 0617 0019 15:19:29.933589 0:0:83:a2:0:1 null > 0:0:0:4d:c:8 sap 41 I (s=42,r=0,P) len=44 1c65 0000 f301 244e 8038 0043 8038 3241 0000 5004 04e8 008b 30c1 2016 000d 29a0 0009 000b 000d 0e0f 1011 0013 [...] 15:19:44.933602 sidhe.freenix.fr > keltia.freenix.fr: icmp: echo request 15:19:44.933952 keltia.freenix.fr > sidhe.freenix.fr: icmp: echo reply 15:19:45.933833 sidhe.freenix.fr > keltia.freenix.fr: icmp: echo request 15:19:45.934007 keltia.freenix.fr > sidhe.freenix.fr: icmp: echo reply [...] 15:20:04.934781 keltia.freenix.fr > sidhe.freenix.fr: icmp: echo reply 15:20:05.934201 0:0:80:a2:0:1 null > 0:0:0:4d:0:8 sap 40 I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 9503 0000 d701 00b0 0038 0243 0138 0041 0000 00bc 00e8 00af 00c1 003a 000d 00a0 0009 000b 000d 000f 0011 0013 0015 0617 0019 15:20:06.934029 0.56.0.67 > 0.56.0.65: icmp: echo reply [ttl 0] 15:20:07.934011 0:0:0:a2:0:1 > 0:0:0:4d:0:8 null I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 0005 0000 0001 00ae 0038 0043 0038 0041 0000 0098 00e8 00b1 00c1 003c 000e 00c0 0009 000b 000d 000f 0011 0013 0015 0017 0019 [...] 15:20:36.933633 sidhe.freenix.fr > keltia.freenix.fr: icmp: echo request 15:20:36.933878 keltia.freenix.fr > sidhe.freenix.fr: icmp: echo reply and so on... Thanks. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Sun Dec 3 14:34:17 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 16:50:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA16267 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:50:25 -0800 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA16262 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:50:23 -0800 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA06058; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:50:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05833; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:50:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199512050050.QAA05833@corbin.Root.COM> To: Ollivier Robert cc: hardware@freebsd.org (Hardware Mailing list) Subject: Re: Weird problem with ether card In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Dec 95 00:50:19 +0100." <199512042350.AAA00271@keltia.freenix.fr> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 16:50:34 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >When an Ethernet card begin to see or emit packets like the following >during a simple "ping", is the card dead or what ? Some packets go fine for >a while then lose some then is good again ad vitam eternam. > >The card on the BSD side is a WD 8013EP which worked fine till sunday. > >The other side is a sparcbook but it shouldn't matter. > >I've changed cables, changed to the AUI port with an external transeiver, >used RJ45 twisted cable with 10BT transeiver but no change. > >ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 maddr 0xcc000 msize 16384 on isa >ed0: address 00:00:c0:4d:ed:08, type WD8013EP (16 bit) > >tcpdump output: > >15:19:17.934019 0:0:0:a2:0:1 > 0:0:0:4d:0:8 null I (s=42,r=0,P) len=234 The ethernet address doesn't even come out correctly...yes, I'd say your card is quite unhappy. Is it possible that you might have another ISA card in the 0x300-31f range? If not then I'd say the card was going bad. -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 18:37:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA26928 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:37:37 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA26908 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:37:27 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA28493; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:10:46 GMT From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512051310.NAA28493@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: WTB: Terminals To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:10:45 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9512042153.AA29106@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Dec 4, 95 02:53:03 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1697 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly stands accused of saying: > > I got tired of continually watching misc.forsale.computers.other.misc > for used terminals. Does anyone know of (or is) a source for used > terminals? I'm in the market for Wyse-50 or comparable, for about > $100. Pointers? How many are you after? If just one or two, try ringing around a few local computer support organisations - stick with the larger ones, not the Klone-only shops. Often they'll have that sort of thing kicking around, or know someone who wants to get rid of some. If you want more than that, you may be able to locate the local disposal method used by large organisations. Here stuff like that gets auctioned on a regular basis; in some other places a recycler gets them all. Try talking to a few EDP people (either ones you know, or ring up organisations that you suspect use Unix systems - local government orgs, utilities and department stores may be a good place to start) and find out where they dump their old gear. Medium-large legal firms are another possible source, although most will have gone networked-PC by now. A pallet of ~10 working Wy50's around here will go for maybe $100 the lot at a scrap auction. By then, you'll have to spend a bit of time with a rag and some Metho, but the results are worth it. > Sean Kelly -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 041-122-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 18:47:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA28079 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:47:35 -0800 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA28066 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:47:31 -0800 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id VAA11094; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id VAA20088; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:47:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:47:22 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Sean Kelly cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WTB: Terminals In-Reply-To: <9512042153.AA29106@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > This isn't FreeBSD-related, but you're a nice group of people who are > more-often-than-not in-the-know: > > I got tired of continually watching misc.forsale.computers.other.misc > for used terminals. Does anyone know of (or is) a source for used > terminals? I'm in the market for Wyse-50 or comparable, for about > $100. Pointers? I don't know if it's quite the same there, but here, I just go to the nearest hamfest. There's usually lots of terminals for sale. I've gotten vt220's for 15 bucks, and from what I've seen, I could do it easily again. I might pay a little more or less, but I bought 6 terminals once for 25 bucks, and 4 of 5 worked. Try that, maybe your experience would be like mine ... but pick the biggest of the hamfests, they're pretty common, but you want to go to the biggest ones to get a fair chance at a deal. Good luck! > > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA > > I've never seen electricity, so I don't pay for it. I write right on > the bill, "I'm sorry, I haven't seen it all month." -- Steven Wright > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 4 23:44:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA16248 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:44:14 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA16243 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:43:59 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id IAA02658 ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:53 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id IAA03318 ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:43:53 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.2/keltia-uucp-2.7) id IAA01195; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:19:27 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199512050719.IAA01195@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Weird problem with ether card To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:19:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512050050.QAA05833@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 4, 95 04:50:34 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1404 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that David Greenman said: > The ethernet address doesn't even come out correctly...yes, I'd say your > card is quite unhappy. Is it possible that you might have another ISA card > in the 0x300-31f range? If not then I'd say the card was going bad. That's what I'm thinking. Damn. No there is no card at 300-31f. This card has been running for 4 years in another machine then one year in mine so I guess its time to retire. Gotta get another card... Thanks. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Sun Dec 3 14:34:17 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 5 03:49:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA28175 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 03:49:41 -0800 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA28170 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 03:49:34 -0800 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzsuh26938; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:49:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Received: from uanet.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 06:49:31 -0500 Received: by crocodil.monolit.kiev.ua; Tue, 5 Dec 95 13:48:24 +0200 Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.6.11/dk#3) id NAA03707; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:40:46 +0200 From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Subject: reboot on CD-ROM eject command (in cdplay) To: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua (Andrew V. Stesin) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 11:40:45 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511300720.JAA18632@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> from "Andrew V. Stesin" at Nov 30, 95 09:20:12 am Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Class: Fast X-OS-Of-Choice: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE X-NIC-Handle: DK379 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22 dk9] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk on my home box (2.0.5, PCI NCR), I have SCSI CD and HD installed, and when I do 'eject' in cdplay, the machine reboots!! (in single-user, without swapping, I was able to see an error from driver, after that it resets the devices (effectively disabling them), and so all disk accesses give me 'I/O error'. In multi-user, I have catched a fast scrolling horde of swapper messages about errors on swap device (no doubt it rebooted shortly). I would upgrade to 2.1 (or may be would just get a driver from 2.1 first and see whether the problem would persist). dmesg output follows: Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:13 Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: reg20: virtual=0xf224b000 physical=0xf0800000 si ze=0x100 Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: ncr0: restart (scsi reset). Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 (V2 pl21 95/03/21) Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: (ncr0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 245F" type 0 fi xed SCSI 2 Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: 1010MB (2070400 512 byte sectors) Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: (ncr0:2:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-4XCS 1.01" type 5 re movable SCSI 2 Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: cd0(ncr0:2:0): CD-ROM Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: cd0(ncr0:2:0): 250ns (4 Mb/sec) offset 8. Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: cd present.[195900 x 2048 byte records] Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: pci0: uses 8388864 bytes of memory from f0000000 up to f08000ff. Dec 5 03:44:21 dog /kernel: pci0: uses 256 bytes of I/O space from 6000 upto 60 ff. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 5 13:00:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA04402 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:00:57 -0800 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA04393 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:00:52 -0800 Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA29412 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:00:49 -0600 Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 5 Dec 95 15:00 CST Message-Id: From: sigma@mcs.com (Kevin Martin) Subject: >16Mb on ISA/EISA To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:00:48 -0600 (CST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 459 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I checked the archives, but was unable to find an answer to this question, although it's been posed before in one form or another: I have a 486 with 28Mb of RAM (don't ask me why so much). When I installed a recent snapshot (just before the release), FreeBSD would only recognize 16Mb of that RAM. What, if anything, can I do to get the additional RAM recognized and used? This is an HP Vectra, EISA bus I believe. Thanks... Kevin Martin sigma@mcs.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 6 16:59:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA14504 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 16:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from super.super.org (super.super.org [192.31.192.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14495 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 16:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gotham.super.org (gotham [192.239.79.2]) by super.super.org (8.7.1/8.6.12.1) with ESMTP id TAA19404; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from descartes.super.org (descartes [192.239.79.5]) by gotham.super.org (8.6.12/8.6.12.1) with ESMTP id TAA29449; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:57:35 -0500 Received: (waarbau@localhost) by descartes.super.org (8.6.12/8.6.12.client) id TAA20809; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:57:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:57:33 -0500 (EST) From: "William A. Arbaugh" To: Kevin Martin cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: >16Mb on ISA/EISA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Kevin Martin wrote: > > I checked the archives, but was unable to find an answer to this question, > although it's been posed before in one form or another: > > I have a 486 with 28Mb of RAM (don't ask me why so much). When I installed > a recent snapshot (just before the release), FreeBSD would only recognize > 16Mb of that RAM. > > What, if anything, can I do to get the additional RAM recognized and used? > This is an HP Vectra, EISA bus I believe. > The problem is likely that the BIOS on your machine will only advertise 16MB because of the OLD AT bus limitation. My Dell EISA machines have the same problem. In several discussions with Dell, their position was to bad....the IBM spec is gospel and we won't change. The blasted BIOS even changes the value to 16M if I try and make it higher (I even tried to slam the value in with some of the BIOS write programs out there- no luck. The next time I booted the BIOS said hmmm 32M isn't right changing to 16M.) So here's what I did: I just modified the var biosextmem in the kernel (I can't remember the exact file name) to the appropriate number, and then remade the kernel. Ideally, the kernel should, if on an EISA machine, probe the EISA BIOS for the right value. I wasn't able to find where that was though. bill ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Arbaugh "Waste of time is the most waarbau@super.org extravagant of all expenses" waa@dsl.cis.upenn.edu -Theophrastus ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 8 04:24:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA00736 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 04:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from barney.ife.no (barney.ife.no [128.39.229.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00729 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 04:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigern.ife.no by barney.ife.no (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13097; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 13:23:48 +0100 From: stein@ife.no (Stein Morten Sandbech) Received: by tigern.ife.no ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 13:21:20 +0100 Message-Id: <9512081221.AA04326@tigern.ife.no> Subject: Adaptec 2940 Auto ... To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 13:21:19 MET Cc: stein@ife.no Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk FYI... FreeBSD 2.0.5Release does not recognice the new Adaptec 2940 controller. I bought this controller from my local dealer just a couple of days ago, and they mention nothing about a new release of the hardware :-( My old ( ca 6months ) 2940 is OK. Info on the chips and pcb: AHA-2940/2940U (Assy 916506-01). (pcb) AHA-2940S76 W/AUTO, 948500-01 C, 9545. (chip) 589219-00 C, BIOS 2800, @ 1995. ( bios chip) I've also tried the AsusTek OEM 2940's and they work ok (both fast and fast/wide). Running this on brand new Intel ZP (Zappa)'s and AsusTek DualPent. and the new AsusTek P/I-P55TP4XE. Planning to test FreeBSD on a PentiumPro (atx) system january... /* Stein M Sandbech Email: stein@ife.no ** ** Owner & technical manager Email: steinms@oslonett.no ** ** Ing. Stein M. Sandbech Phone: +47 6387 2300 ** ** Phone: +47 6380 6219 ** ** Asaktoppen 39, N-2045 Leirsund, NORWAY Fax: +47 6381 1168 */ From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 8 07:45:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA12012 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip2.uplift.fr (af@ip2.uplift.fr [194.51.20.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12002 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 07:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from af@localhost) by ip2.uplift.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00107; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:46:24 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 16:46:24 GMT Message-Id: <199512081646.QAA00107@ip2.uplift.fr> From: Alain Forcioli To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 8 09:42:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA22826 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22804 Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512081742.JAA22804@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: stein@ife.no (Stein Morten Sandbech) cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Auto ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Dec 1995 13:21:19 +0700." <9512081221.AA04326@tigern.ife.no> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 09:42:22 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >FYI... > >FreeBSD 2.0.5Release does not recognice the new Adaptec 2940 controller. Not quite correct. 2.0.5 does not recognize 2940Ultra adapters. They have a different PCI ID that didn't even exist when 2.1 was released. You should upgrade to 2.1 anyway since it has much better support for that adapter. >Planning to test FreeBSD on a PentiumPro (atx) system january... Already been done. :) >/* Stein M Sandbech Email: stein@ife.no >** -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations ===========================================