From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 12 21:18:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA28265 for hubs-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 21:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA28178 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 21:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA11085 for freebsd-hubs@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 06:19:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 06:19:36 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199512130519.GAA11085@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-hubs@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: sup -current Sender: owner-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Any idea why I'm getting SUP: Invalid release current for collection base and so on... with the new sup-server-kit? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 01:12:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA06316 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06281 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id BAA02243; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:11:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512150911.BAA02243@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I swapped the directory and links, because I realized that it's impossible to "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" from the upper level due to the .notar file and "get ports.tar.gz" inside 2.1R would return a tarfile consisting of a single symbolic link. ;) Thus, what used to look like this: ports-2.1 (directory) 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports -> ../ports-2.1 now looks like this: ports -> 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports (directory) People on the mirror sites may want to avoid copying the files over by making the abovementioned changes by hand. I'm reluctant to move the packages-2.1 because it is huge, although that is the only one that does not fit in the picture now. What do you guys think? Do you think it will be ok if we all coordinate the change and do it together? (I.e., I change it on ftp.freebsd.org, mirror site admins change them on the mirror sites, at the same time, so there won't be excessive file transfers.) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 01:35:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA07588 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07583 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA12939; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:35:06 +1100 From: David Dawes Message-Id: <199512150935.UAA12939@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:35:06 +1100 (EST) Cc: hubs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512150911.BAA02243@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Dec 15, 95 01:11:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I swapped the directory and links, because I realized that it's >impossible to "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" from the upper level due to the >.notar file and "get ports.tar.gz" inside 2.1R would return a tarfile >consisting of a single symbolic link. ;) It don't think that this is true. It should be possible to do "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" so long as there is no .notar in the ports-2.1 directory. It certainly works here. David From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 01:42:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA07953 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07946 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id BAA02292; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:42:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:42:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512150942.BAA02292@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au CC: hubs@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199512150935.UAA12939@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> (message from David Dawes on Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:35:06 +1100 (EST)) Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * It don't think that this is true. It should be possible to * do "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" so long as there is no .notar in the ports-2.1 * directory. It certainly works here. Interesting. It didn't work when I tried on ftp.freebsd.org, and worked after I swapped the link and directory. Maybe wcarchive is configured differently.... === wcarchive.cdrom.com:/.3/FreeBSD ncftp>mget ports-2.1.tar.gz ports-2.1.tar.gz: No such file. : (login, mv's) : wcarchive.cdrom.com:/.3/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE ncftp>get ports.tar.gz ports.tar.gz: 1436022 bytes received in 145.31 seconds, 9.65 K/s. === Either case, I think I'm going to leave it that way because there was another problem, i.e., "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" producing a subdirectory "ports-2.1" instead of "ports". Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 01:49:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08345 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08331 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA12963; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:48:58 +1100 From: David Dawes Message-Id: <199512150948.UAA12963@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:48:58 +1100 (EST) Cc: hubs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512150942.BAA02292@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Dec 15, 95 01:42:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > * It don't think that this is true. It should be possible to > * do "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" so long as there is no .notar in the ports-2.1 > * directory. It certainly works here. > >Interesting. It didn't work when I tried on ftp.freebsd.org, and >worked after I swapped the link and directory. Maybe wcarchive is >configured differently.... > >=== >wcarchive.cdrom.com:/.3/FreeBSD >ncftp>mget ports-2.1.tar.gz >ports-2.1.tar.gz: No such file. > : >(login, mv's) > : >wcarchive.cdrom.com:/.3/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE >ncftp>get ports.tar.gz >ports.tar.gz: 1436022 bytes received in 145.31 seconds, 9.65 K/s. >=== I just tried a similar thing with packages-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org: ftp> get packages-2.1.tar.gz 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /usr/bin/tar. ^C 426 Transfer aborted. Data connection closed. 226 Abort successful local: packages-2.1.tar.gz remote: packages-2.1.tar.gz 13312 bytes received in 6.3 seconds (2 Kbytes/s) >Either case, I think I'm going to leave it that way because there was >another problem, i.e., "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" producing a subdirectory >"ports-2.1" instead of "ports". Agreed. Also this is consistent with the 2.0.5 versions. David From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 01:54:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08650 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08645 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id BAA02497; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:51:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 01:51:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512150951.BAA02497@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au CC: hubs@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199512150948.UAA12963@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> (message from David Dawes on Fri, 15 Dec 1995 20:48:58 +1100 (EST)) Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * >ncftp>mget ports-2.1.tar.gz * >ports-2.1.tar.gz: No such file. * ftp> get packages-2.1.tar.gz * 200 PORT command successful. Aahh. It may be because I used "mget". ;) * >Either case, I think I'm going to leave it that way because there was * >another problem, i.e., "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" producing a subdirectory * >"ports-2.1" instead of "ports". * * Agreed. Also this is consistent with the 2.0.5 versions. Yes.... Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 02:07:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA09571 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA09563 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.183.109.242] by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:07:12 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 04:06:55 -0600 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>I swapped the directory and links, because I realized that it's >>impossible to "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" from the upper level due to the >>.notar file and "get ports.tar.gz" inside 2.1R would return a tarfile >>consisting of a single symbolic link. ;) > >It don't think that this is true. It should be possible to >do "get ports-2.1.tar.gz" so long as there is no .notar in the ports-2.1 >directory. It certainly works here. Actually, it needs to be changed anyway. The 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports directories should be FROZEN at the value they had at release time. the ports-2.1 entry can then be a tree of symbolic links for those elements that are unchanged. But if something changes, it should appear in ports-2.1 but not 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 15 02:28:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA11604 for hubs-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA11596 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:28:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id CAA02725; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:28:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:28:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512151028.CAA02725@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: rkw@dataplex.net CC: hubs@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (rkw@dataplex.net) Subject: Re: 2.1R/ports and ports-2.1 on ftp.freebsd.org From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Actually, it needs to be changed anyway. * The 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports directories should be FROZEN at the value they had * at release time. * the ports-2.1 entry can then be a tree of symbolic links for those elements * that are unchanged. But if something changes, it should appear in ports-2.1 * but not 2.1.0-RELEASE/ports. However, we (the ports team) are not planning to maintain the 2.1 ports tree any further. We simply do not have the manpower to maintain two trees. So, any new change will go to FreeBSD-current/ports, which may or may not work with 2.1. (Actually most of them should work, except for ones that depend on newer bsd.port.mk or something.) Satoshi