From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 10 06:27:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA13930 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dreamlabs.dreaming.org (dreamlabs.dreaming.org [198.96.119.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13922 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mitayai@localhost) by dreamlabs.dreaming.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA09242; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 09:27:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 09:27:04 -0500 (EST) From: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org cc: scrappy@hub.org Subject: slurp/suck Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone made a successful port of slurp or suck? If noy, i guess i'll have to find time to do it myself. :) -Mit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe, mitayai@dreaming.org http://www.dreaming.org/~mitayai Toronto, Ontario, Canada From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 10 06:53:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA16140 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16135 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:53:26 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA01911 ; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:52:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: slurp/suck In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Dec 1995 09:27:04 EST." Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 06:52:16 -0800 Message-ID: <1909.818607136@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote in message ID : > > Has anyone made a successful port of slurp or suck? If noy, i guess i'll > have to find time to do it myself. :) Slurp is relatively easy. The only reason I haven't ported it is I didn't have enough time to figure out how to inter-link it properly with the INN or CNEWS ports. If you have compiled up INN yourself, compiling slurp is a piece of cake, esp. if you still have the sources lying on your h/d. Gary From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 10 08:36:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23233 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 08:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23205 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 08:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA01767; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:34:31 -0500 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199512101634.LAA01767@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: slurp/suck To: mitayai@dreaming.org (Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:34:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org In-Reply-To: from "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" at Dec 10, 95 09:27:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe writes: > > > Has anyone made a successful port of slurp or suck? If noy, i guess i'll > have to find time to do it myself. :) > It builds out of the box once you decide policy in conf.h. Everything is compiled in. John Capo jc@irbs.com IRBS Engineering High performance FreeBSD systems (305) 792-9551 Unix/Internet Consulting - ISP Solutions From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 10 16:06:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04758 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04737 Sun, 10 Dec 1995 16:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01709; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 23:14:52 GMT Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 23:14:50 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org cc: gpalmer@freebsd.org Subject: GNU Smalltalk patches Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, here are some patches for the Smalltalk port. patch-ab enables the Emacs interactor to work; this allows you to edit Smalltalk files in one window and have this window interacting with the interpreter running in another window! To get this working, copy the resulting st.el file into your Emacs Lisp directory (/usr/local/lib/emacs/19.28/lisp on my system). patch-ac enables readline, so that Emacs-style commands can be used to edit the command-line in the Smalltalk interpreter. patch-ad forces compilation with optimisation instead of debugging flags; as version 1.1.1 is nearly 5 five years old, hopefully it should be fairly stable by now 8-) Finally patch-ae should allow stix to work. To get this running, change into the stix directory and build it by hand as for mst:- ./config.mst fbsd-2; make; ./mst -iV The install process could also be made a little more friendly (particularly as 'makeinfo mst.texinfo' doesn't work properly!). How about something like (warning - untested) do_install: @echo "Installing Smalltalk interpreter and method definitions..." @(cd ${WRKSRC}; cp mst ${PREFIX}/bin; cp *.st ${PREFIX}/lib/smalltalk) @echo "To complete the installation of GNU Smalltalk, do" @echo " cd ${WRKSRC}; ./mst -iV" @echo "to build the image and test the interpreter." @echo @echo "When you are satisfied everything works, do Control-D" @echo "to quit and copy mst.im to ${PREFIX}/lib/smalltalk." @echo @echo "If emacs is installed, you may also wish to copy the st.el @echo "file to the Emacs Lisp directory to enable Interactor mode." It would be nice to change the top-level Makefile to add the stix target. (To avoid re-inventing the wheel, are there any other ports which have targets in different directories that I can look at?) Or perhaps stix should be the target instead? Comments welcomed! James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' patch-ab ======== *** st.el.orig Sun Dec 10 17:55:54 1995 --- st.el Sun Dec 10 17:42:16 1995 *************** *** 708,720 **** nil (if proc (delete-process proc)) (setq proc (apply 'start-process name buffer ! (concat exec-directory "env") ;; I'm choosing to leave these here (format "TERMCAP=emacs:co#%d:tc=unknown:" (screen-width)) "TERM=emacs" "EMACS=t" - "-" "mst" switches)) (setq name (process-name proc))) --- 708,719 ---- nil (if proc (delete-process proc)) (setq proc (apply 'start-process name buffer ! "/usr/bin/env" ;; I'm choosing to leave these here (format "TERMCAP=emacs:co#%d:tc=unknown:" (screen-width)) "TERM=emacs" "EMACS=t" "mst" switches)) (setq name (process-name proc))) patch-ac ======== *** Makefile.orig Sun Dec 10 18:08:36 1995 --- Makefile Sun Dec 10 17:17:59 1995 *************** *** 56,62 **** CPP = cc -E # Uncomment this line to enable the ultra-winning readline-reader ! #READLINE = -DUSE_READLINE ###################################################################### ###################################################################### --- 56,62 ---- CPP = cc -E # Uncomment this line to enable the ultra-winning readline-reader ! READLINE = -DUSE_READLINE ###################################################################### ###################################################################### patch-ad ======== *** ymakefile.orig Sun Dec 10 17:56:09 1995 --- ymakefile Sun Dec 10 17:57:22 1995 *************** *** 121,130 **** /* Compilation flags definitions */ CFLAGS_NORMAL = -g EXTRA_CC_FLAGS CFLAGS_PROFILE = -g -pg -DUSE_MONCONTROL EXTRA_CC_FLAGS ! CFLAGS_OPTIMIZE = -O -DOPTIMIZE EXTRA_CC_FLAGS /* Actual compilation flags and compiler definition */ ! CFLAGS = $(CFLAGS_NORMAL) $(READLINEDEF) --- 121,130 ---- /* Compilation flags definitions */ CFLAGS_NORMAL = -g EXTRA_CC_FLAGS CFLAGS_PROFILE = -g -pg -DUSE_MONCONTROL EXTRA_CC_FLAGS ! CFLAGS_OPTIMIZE = -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fomit-frame-pointer -DOPTIMIZE EXT RA_CC_FLAGS /* Actual compilation flags and compiler definition */ ! CFLAGS = $(CFLAGS_OPTIMIZE) $(READLINEDEF) patch-ae ======== *** stix/Makefile.orig Sun Dec 10 18:06:36 1995 --- stix/Makefile Sun Dec 10 17:09:12 1995 *************** *** 56,62 **** CPP = cc -E # Uncomment this line to enable the ultra-winning readline-reader ! #READLINE = -DUSE_READLINE ###################################################################### ###################################################################### --- 56,62 ---- CPP = cc -E # Uncomment this line to enable the ultra-winning readline-reader ! READLINE = -DUSE_READLINE ###################################################################### ###################################################################### *************** *** 88,94 **** # Edit this to reflect the path on your system where the X include files # may be found. ! XINCLUDE = /usr/include/X11 socket.o: socket.c $(CC) -I$(XINCLUDE) $(CFLAGS) -DUNIXCONN -c socket.c --- 88,94 ---- # Edit this to reflect the path on your system where the X include files # may be found. ! XINCLUDE = /usr/X11R6/include socket.o: socket.c $(CC) -I$(XINCLUDE) $(CFLAGS) -DUNIXCONN -c socket.c From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 10 19:40:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA18312 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-04.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18247 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA06363; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:28:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:28:43 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: slurp/suck In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > Has anyone made a successful port of slurp or suck? If noy, i guess i'll > have to find time to do it myself. :) I have a working 'suck' for FreeBSD. It's not in 'package / port' format, nor do I have the time to convert it to such. But it works. I also have made some custom shell scripts to make getting news in and out of the machine easier. I can send a copy to you, if you wish. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 11 06:06:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA08086 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 06:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from unalBSD.usc.unal.edu.co ([200.21.26.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA08064 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 06:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pgiffuni@localhost) by unalBSD.usc.unal.edu.co (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA03761; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:10:38 GMT Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:10:37 +0000 () From: Pedro Giffuni To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Finite Element Method Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, If someone, specially a mechanical engineer, is interested in a FEM program, there is one for X called FElt that could compile easily. I haven`t compiled it because we are not registered and I can`t download it. If you want to take a look, the URL is: http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/atkinson/FElt it is known to work under LINUX, AIX, and SGI, and the author would like to know about it`s workings on other machines. regards, Pedro. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 11 07:09:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA17176 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17171 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 07:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA04187; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:09:43 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:09:43 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: select nearest GNU mirror permanently? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm just sitting here watching something come crawling in over the net from prep.ai.mit.edu.. If I had of caught it sooner, I'd have used a local (much faster) mirror, but now it's almost done. What would be the chance of setting GNU_MIRROR somewhere (/etc/make.conf? defaulted in bsd.port.mk?) and set MASTER_SITES= $(GNU_MIRROR) in the per-port makefiles that would otherwise pull stuff from prep.ai.mit.edu? Or is there another mechanism to do this already? Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 11 11:29:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA17987 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17969 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from block.statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tPDuq-000r3tC; Mon, 11 Dec 95 11:29 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by block.statsci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00292; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:29:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199512111929.LAA00292@block.statsci.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jacs@gnome.co.uk, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package names In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Dec 1995 17:55:26 -0800." <199512090155.RAA14926@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:29:35 -0800 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) wrote: > Hmm. Does anyone have an idea on how to include this information > without the above problems? Not necessarily endorsing this, but it seems reasonable enough... The packages for the Debian/Linux distribution generally take the form of NAME-ORIG_VERSION-DEBIAN_VERSION with the basic idea being that NAME is the package name (e.g. xv or Xaw3d), ORIG_VERSION is the version as defined by the package (e.g. 3.10a or 1.2a) and "DEBIAN_VERSION" is a sequence number for the package/port files. So, you would end up with a package called xv-3.10a-1 or mtools-2.0.7-12 or whatever. They probably specify the set of characters that are legitimate for each of those fields in the package name, but I don't remember what the conventions are, offhand. I don't think it'd be good to be renaming the ports directories or not every time the port is updated, so I wouldn't include the package version in the directory name. Could put it as a variable in the ports/Makefile and include it in the package name generated by the Makefile? Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 11 11:36:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA18801 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18780 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com Received: from njcorp.akbs.com by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA14829; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:33:37 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by njcorp.akbs.com id AA818721287; Mon, 11 Dec 95 14:34:00 EST Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 14:34:00 EST Encoding: 27 Text Message-Id: <9511118187.AA818721287@njcorp.akbs.com> To: Adam David Cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nntpxfer Exectable File Missing Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have another question about the compiling nntp port. Since I downloaded the file nntp-1.5.11.5.tgz from your ftp server. So if I try to compile nntp only for nntpxfer, what do I need to download or what should I do to comiple it? Thanks. Ruiyuan Jiang rjiang@akbs.com > You can compile it by yourself. Get the nntp ports files (read > section 4.2 on the handbook on how to get these stuff), and edit the > patch by hand before you compile it. It should be in > > /usr/ports/news/nntp/patches/patch-aa > > Go to line 47, and delete the `#' near the beginning of the line. Also in /usr/ports/news/nntp/work/nntp-t5/xfer/nntpxfer.c after compilation fails, you will need to delete line 627. It's the line that reads: extern char *sys_errlist[]; Then it will compile normally. I will update this soon for the main ports collection. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Dec 11 15:09:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA11160 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10208 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:04:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512112304.PAA10208@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 38B48211 ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:59:50 +0100 Received: from VM.GMD.DE (MAILER) by DEARNAXP (MX V4.1 AXP) with BSMTP; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:53:10 +0100 Received: from VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (NJE origin MAILER@ESOC) by VM.GMD.DE (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with BSMTP id 9833; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:53:59 +0100 Received: from VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (NJE origin VCAPUANO@ESOC) by VMPROFS.ESOC.ESA.DE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0441; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:47:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 15:40:28 EWT From: Vincenzo Capuano Organization: ESA - European Space Agency Subject: DDD (Data Display Debugger) To: ports@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-ports@FREEBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have compiled DDD from ftp://ftp.ips.cs.tu-bs.de/pub/local/softech/ddd. I have sent the few needed patches to the author. So the new version of ddd compiles and works without code patches. It needs Motif. If you want I can provide you a statically linked version. Also, why don't we just make it a port? It is a very good debugger. Vincenzo --- Vincenzo Capuano European Space Agency - European Space Operations Centre vcapuano@vmprofs.esoc.esa.de From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Dec 12 03:22:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA03716 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA03701 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA27727 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 12:23:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 12:23:07 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199512121123.MAA27727@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make clean glitch in japanese Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Forget that. I found that hasn't caught up on the www tree. At least it looks to me as though.. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Dec 12 04:16:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA08798 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA08279 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA27690 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 12:16:17 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 12:16:17 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199512121116.MAA27690@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: make clean glitch in japanese Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ===> Cleaning for Wnn-4.2 ===> japanese/chimera make: don't know how to make clean. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Dec 12 04:31:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA09552 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-12.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA09534 Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA13135; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:33:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 04:33:04 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Ports cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Good text-based telcom program? Working MINICOM? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't believe I'm finding myself pining (no pun intended... see my X-Mailer: header if you haven't a clue) for the days of Linux, but it is true. Having only 8 MB of memory and a meagre student's income (WITH debts outstanding to boot) isn't very easy, and makes running X a pain in the you-know-where. And when I found that the only comms package in the ports directory was "Seyon" -- an X-based one -- I wasn't very happy about it. So I'm finding myself in the need of a good text-based comm program. Kermit works, after a fashion, but I really want something with a little more "zip" to it (and ease of use, maybe). In my Linux days, I had trusty old Minicom. Loved that program. The interface was decent, the dialing directory was cool, and I loved auto-start Zmodem downloads. On a whim, I grabbed the minicom-1.71 sources from sunsite, and found to my delight that the documentation stated that it compiles under FreeBSD. But I was disappointed to find that the program compiled allright, but DID NOT RUN -- it didn't crash or anything, but the program just wouldn't communicate with my modem. In that respect, the documentation lies like a rug. I wasn't easily discouraged, however. I somehow hacked'n'slashed things until I get a working minicom -- the thing dials, I can talk to remote BBS's and other systems, I can even upload and download files... but once I hang up from said remote system, the program will not send or receive data from the modem. Basically, I can call only ONE system per invocation of minicom -- I have to exit and re-run the program to call multiple systems. This is undoubtedly some termios thing, but I simply lack the knowledge to correct it. If anyone's willing to give it a try, I'd be happy to send you copies of my current sources (hey, it's even sort-of integrated as a "port" -- shouldn't be that difficult to add it to the ports collection once it's done) I've given up (for now) on toying with ECU. It may be that I'm dense or something, but it's just not working for me. [Picture the "this is your brain on drugs" commercial, and you'll see what happened to my head as a result of this messing-around.] Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Dec 12 18:38:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09912 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from oasis.txdirect.net (oasis.txdirect.net [204.57.120.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09904 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis.txdirect.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00518; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:38:21 -0600 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:38:20 -0600 (CST) From: Rob Snow To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Good text-based telcom program? Working MINICOM? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > I can't believe I'm finding myself pining (no pun intended... see my > X-Mailer: header if you haven't a clue) for the days of Linux, but it is > true. Having only 8 MB of memory and a meagre student's income (WITH > debts outstanding to boot) isn't very easy, and makes running X a pain in > the you-know-where. And when I found that the only comms package in the > ports directory was "Seyon" -- an X-based one -- I wasn't very happy > about it. > > So I'm finding myself in the need of a good text-based comm program. > Kermit works, after a fashion, but I really want something with a little > more "zip" to it (and ease of use, maybe). > > In my Linux days, I had trusty old Minicom. Loved that program. The > interface was decent, the dialing directory was cool, and I loved > auto-start Zmodem downloads. On a whim, I grabbed the minicom-1.71 > sources from sunsite, and found to my delight that the documentation > stated that it compiles under FreeBSD. But I was disappointed to find > that the program compiled allright, but DID NOT RUN -- it didn't crash or > anything, but the program just wouldn't communicate with my modem. In > that respect, the documentation lies like a rug. [SNIP] > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** I've had the same results with my machine (205 & 210). Looks REALLY nice (I'm an old Telix user). But 'it dont work'. In my weak attempt to hack MiniCom I had less luck than you... :-( I think it'd make a great addition to the ports tree. Unfortunately, I believe that my cross-eyed attempt told me that I might not be the person to do it. I would, however, try and take another look if you'll send me your patches. __________________________________________________________________ Rob Snow Powered by FreeBSD rsnow@txdirect.net http://www.freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Dec 12 20:23:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA19732 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19703 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA10859; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 05:24:21 +0100 Message-Id: <199512130424.FAA10859@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Good text-based telcom program? Working MINICOM? To: rsnow@txdirect.net (Rob Snow) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 05:24:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: d_burr@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Rob Snow" at Dec 12, 95 08:38:20 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: [...] > > So I'm finding myself in the need of a good text-based comm program. > > more "zip" to it (and ease of use, maybe). > > > [...] > I've had the same results with my machine (205 & 210). Looks REALLY > nice (I'm an old Telix user). But 'it dont work'. In my weak > attempt to hack MiniCom I had less luck than you... :-( > > I think it'd make a great addition to the ports tree. Unfortunately, > I believe that my cross-eyed attempt told me that I might not be > the person to do it. I would, however, try and take another look > if you'll send me your patches. > > __________________________________________________________________ > Rob Snow Powered by FreeBSD > rsnow@txdirect.net http://www.freebsd.org > > In the same vein I digged out a tiny comm porgram (which I had working in ol' SCO days), named xcomm. I hacked it to work under FreeBSD (termios ioctls). It's not as fancy (menues) as minicomm but at least it can dial and does XMODEM downloads in conjunction with sz/sx. If someone wants to continue hacking on it I can make it available. It's tiny, so when I'm in the office later today I can uuappend it to a mail reply. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Dec 13 01:24:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25647 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25641 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id KAA25275; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 10:23:35 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche.bowtie.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09541; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:40:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199512130840.JAA09541@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Christoph Kukulies cc: rsnow@txdirect.net (Rob Snow), d_burr@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Good text-based telcom program? Working MINICOM? In-reply-to: kuku's message of Wed, 13 Dec 1995 05:24:21 +0100. <199512130424.FAA10859@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:40:25 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > [...] > > > So I'm finding myself in the need of a good text-based comm program. > > > more "zip" to it (and ease of use, maybe). > > > > > > [...] > > > I've had the same results with my machine (205 & 210). Looks REALLY > > nice (I'm an old Telix user). But 'it dont work'. In my weak > > attempt to hack MiniCom I had less luck than you... :-( > > > > I think it'd make a great addition to the ports tree. Unfortunately, > > I believe that my cross-eyed attempt told me that I might not be > > the person to do it. I would, however, try and take another look > > if you'll send me your patches. > > I didn't know this would be of general interest, but I just send out a reply to Donald telling him about a working version of minicom 1.60. I never bothered with the newer versions, and this one still works I just checked it. I only had to add an include of in port.h If anyone wants to hack at it, to see what the differences are between this version and the newest, take a look at: http://www.bowtie.nl/files/minicom-1.60-fbsd.tar.gz Marc. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Dec 13 22:59:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA12309 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.vnet.net (pent.vnet.net [166.82.194.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12300 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 22:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.vnet.net (localhost.vnet.net [127.0.0.1]) by pent.vnet.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA01013 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:59:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512140659.BAA01013@pent.vnet.net> X-Authentication-Warning: pent.vnet.net: Host localhost.vnet.net [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: xboard broken? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:59:12 -0500 From: Adam William Hawks Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just installed the xboard port and it compiled fine and installed without a problem. But when I tried to run it it said it couldn't find gnuchessx. I tried a symbolic link to /usr/games/chess but it didn't like that either. Should this port also build the gnuchess program? Adam Hawks awhawks@vnet.net awhawks@unccsun.uncc.edu From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 01:15:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA18832 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-20.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA18827 Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA09590; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:17:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:17:14 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Announce cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: ANNOUNCE: Port of ATP 1.42 QWK Reader for FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have completed a port of the 'ATP' QWK message packet reader for FreeBSD. It can be used to read QWK-format message packets, commonly downloadable from DOS-based Public Bulletin Boards (BBS's). This version supports ANSI colour and graphics sequences in messages, when using the syscons driver (dunno about PCVT, since I don't use PCVT -- it might work), provided that you use the optiions "charset = msdos", "ansi = on", "color = on", and "graphics = off" (YES, I meant "off" -- that's because the syscons driver handles it automatically) in your atprc file. The port directory for it can be found at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/atp-new.tar.gz ***NOTE*** There is a file called "atp.tar.gz" in the above directory. This was uploaded by me as well, but IT WAS A MISTAKE -- IGNORE THIS FILE. The FTP admin should probably delete it. The ATP source tarball can be obtained at: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/BBS/mail/atp142src.tar.gz Enjoy, and please advise me of any problems or bugs or things that aren't quite working right with this port (if any). Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 01:21:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA19351 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-20.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19342 Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA13828; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:23:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Satoshi Asami cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Announce Subject: Re: Good text-based telcom program? Working MINICOM? In-Reply-To: <199512122307.PAA00703@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > [... about a port of Minicom ...] > > * This is undoubtedly some termios thing, but I simply lack the knowledge > * to correct it. If anyone's willing to give it a try, I'd be happy to > * send you copies of my current sources (hey, it's even sort-of integrated > * as a "port" -- shouldn't be that difficult to add it to the ports > * collection once it's done) > > Send it to me if no-one offers help -- I'll put it in the ports > collection with a big red marking saying "IT DOESN'T WORK, NEED > HELP!!!", that way it will be distributed to all corners of the world > and hopefully someone (say, Torsten) can make it work. :) OK, I've placed a tar.gz of my 'minicom' port directory (as it stands) at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/minicom.tar.gz I've reached my limit in working on this, so it's up for grabs if anyone wants something new to hack on. Good luck, or as the Klingons say, "Qapla'!" (Success!) Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 04:25:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA29033 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 04:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29024 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 04:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA17327 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:26:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:26:04 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199512141226.NAA17327@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: sudo - broken wrt passwd > 8 chars Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I was pulling my (spare) hair out this morning why I could not log into sudo initially while another user on my machine could and I ended up in finding that my password had more than 8 characters. /usr/include/pwd.h defines _PASSWORD_LEN 128 while sudo uses the macro _PASSWD_LEN and sets it to 8 when undefined. The question arises if _PASSWORD_LEN is to be changed or if the sudo port should be fixed to contain _PASSWD_LEN set to 128 under freebsd. I was thinking of supplying a patch-ac but then I thought I'd better put this to discussion. (POSIXers, speak up). --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 05:23:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA01294 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.intecc.co.uk [194.72.95.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA01289 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jacs@localhost) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA11277; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:22:16 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:22:16 GMT From: Chris Stenton Subject: colorls compile problem To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't compile colorls hawk: {27} make ===> colorls-2.1 depends on executable: ncftp2 - found >> No checksum recorded for ls.tar.gz Checksums OK for files that have them. ===> Patching for colorls-2.1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for colorls-2.1 patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 07:46:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09201 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from stdismas.bogon.com (root@stdismas.bogon.com [204.191.163.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09188 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by stdismas.bogon.com (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.7 #30.4 #4) id m0tQFrS-000PuWC; Thu, 14 Dec 95 07:46 PST Message-Id: From: jhenders@bogon.com (John Henders) Subject: bug/wierdness in syscons driver To: freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7 SL] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've been trying to port Tom Hageman's jove version to FreeBSD and the console handling doesn't seem to work right. It appears that there's a problem with linewrap handling, though the termcap am entry is there. What appens is that if there are lines wider than the screen, then for some reason characters are getting wrapped when they shouldn't, so the status bar gets overwritten, and jove gets confused about where the cursor really is. As an experiment, I recompiled the kernel with the pcvt driver instead of the syscons driver and jove then worked properly, so I assume the problem is with the syscons driver. Jove also has no problem on SCO, BSDI or Linux. Is this a known problem with the syscons driver, and is there a workaround? -- Artificial Intelligence stands no chance against Natural Stupidity. GAT d- -p+(--) c++++ l++ u++ t- m--- W--- !v b+++ e* s-/+ n-(?) h++ f+g+ w+++ y* From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 08:11:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA11309 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11300 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21211; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:09:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199512141609.JAA21211@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 From: Steve Passe To: Adam William Hawks cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xboard broken? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:59:12 EST." <199512140659.BAA01013@pent.vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:09:32 -0700 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I just installed the xboard port and it compiled fine and installed without a problem. > But when I tried to run it it said it couldn't find gnuchessx. I tried a symbolic link > to /usr/games/chess but it didn't like that either. Should this port also build the > gnuchess program? I don't know the answer to this, but I found that gnuchess would coredump quickly when built from the prep.ai.mit distribution. GDB showed ridiculous values appearing in the register variables. To get it to run reliably I had to: 1: remove the -O2 flag ( optimization ) from the makefile 2: remove all "register" references by "#define register " in a header file (I forget which one, no longer have the modified source here). when compiled, one file complains about this because the 'int' was implied (missing) from the register declaration. just modify the header, build, go to the ERROR point, and add 'int' after 'register' and recompile. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 12:58:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12927 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12918 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winky.reno.nv.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04325 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:57:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199512142057.MAA04325@winky.reno.nv.us> X-Authentication-Warning: winky.reno.nv.us: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Java port Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:57:14 -0800 From: Eric Blood Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Awhile back I read that someone was attempting a port of Java to FreeBSD. I was wondering who was heading the port, current progress, and if they were looking for and extra hand. Eric Blood eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Dec 14 17:53:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA11442 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11437 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA27890; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:25:32 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512160155.MAA27890@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: bug/wierdness in syscons driver To: jhenders@bogon.com (John Henders) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:25:31 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Henders" at Dec 14, 95 07:46:21 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk John Henders stands accused of saying: > > I've been trying to port Tom Hageman's jove version to FreeBSD and the > console handling doesn't seem to work right. It appears that there's a > problem with linewrap handling, though the termcap am entry is there. > What appens is that if there are lines wider than the screen, then for > some reason characters are getting wrapped when they shouldn't, so the > status bar gets overwritten, and jove gets confused about where the > cursor really is. As an experiment, I recompiled the kernel with the > pcvt driver instead of the syscons driver and jove then worked properly, > so I assume the problem is with the syscons driver. Jove also has no > problem on SCO, BSDI or Linux. Is this a known problem with the syscons > driver, and is there a workaround? I've noticed that syscons doesn't handle out-of-range cursor addressing in any sort of gracious fashion. This may be an issue. Also check the "standard" jove port on the off chance that there's something useful there. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 041-122-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 15 15:52:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27572 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27566 Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:52:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ruiyuan_Jiang/Advantage_KBS_at_LotusXchg@njcorp.akbs.com Received: from njcorp.akbs.com by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA13657; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:50:06 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by njcorp.akbs.com id AA819082307; Fri, 15 Dec 95 18:50:00 EST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 18:50:00 EST Encoding: 38 Text Message-Id: <9511158190.AA819082307@njcorp.akbs.com> To: torstenb@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: INN news for FreeBSD v2.1 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to compile the INN News for our company's Usenet News server using FreeBSD v2.1. 1. I downloaded all the files under ftp.freebsd.org/ 2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn directory and its subdirectory. The Makefile under 2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn directory states "DISTNAME= inn1.4sec". Does it mean I need to download inn1.4sec.tar.Z file from ftp.uu.net instead of inn1.4.tar.Z file or I can use any one of them? 2. In INN news distribution file, it says that I need to copy config.dist to config.data file under its config subdirectory after the software is uncompressed. I think that I can use the config.data file under ftp.freebsd.org/2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn/files directory instead because I think Mr. Torsten Blum may already make the necessary changes in the config.dist file. Do I need to delete the original Makefile in the distribution and copy the Makefile under ftp.freebsd.org/ 2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn or just use the original Makefile not in the subdirectory after I uncompress the distribution file (i.e. if I downloaded the inn1.4sec.tar.Z file under /root/innnews directory, I got a Makefile in /root/innnews directory after I uncompressed inn1.4sec.tar.Z file)? 3. I don't know whether I can run "make" at this time or not. If the answer is yes, how about the rest files under 2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn such as /inn/files/md5, /inn/patches/patch-a?, /inn/pkg/COMMENT, DESCR, PLIST and /scripts/configure in ftp.freebsd.org/ 2.1-RELEASE/ports/news/inn. If the answer is no, what should I do? Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator Advantage kbs rjiang@akbs.com (908) 287-2236 From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 15 16:14:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29035 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lump.stoker.com ([204.31.83.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29025 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 16:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lump (localhost.stoker.com [127.0.0.1]) by lump.stoker.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA15340 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 17:19:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199512160019.RAA15340@lump.stoker.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 17:19:13 -0700 From: "George K. Watson" Organization: The Stoker Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The /usr/ports/graphics/xpm library port X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/graphics.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The PLIST has an ldconfig -m in it. This option is illegal in FreeBSD 2.0.5 Am I doing something wrong?? watson@stoker.com From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 15 19:34:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA11208 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.191.196.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11198 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by misery.sdf.com id <926>; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:08:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: "George K. Watson" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The /usr/ports/graphics/xpm library port In-Reply-To: <199512160019.RAA15340@lump.stoker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, George K. Watson wrote: > The PLIST has an ldconfig -m in it. > This option is illegal in FreeBSD 2.0.5 > Am I doing something wrong?? The "-m" option is new, and only applies to 2.1 and later. Tom From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 00:09:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA23003 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22997 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA00661; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:08:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:08:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512160808.AAA00661@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pgf@american.com CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199512091331.IAA00103@mozart.american.com> (message from Paul Fox on Sat, 09 Dec 1995 08:31:15 -0500) Subject: Re: package names From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (catching up on old mail....) * doesn't this problem exist? there is already the potential * for a name clash between the freebsd package name and the name of the * distribution on the original site (though i assume this tends to be avoided * during the original port). seems like you'd need to add something more * descriptive to the name (e.g. xv-3.10a.freebsd-pkg1.1.tgz :-) to avoid * it. This is not a problem, the original distribution goes to /usr/ports/distfiles and the package goes to a subdirectory of /usr/ports/packages. And in general, if you have one (getting it with ftp), you don't need the other. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 00:15:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA23637 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA23626 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA00749; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:15:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:15:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512160815.AAA00749@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: scott@statsci.com CC: jacs@gnome.co.uk, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199512111929.LAA00292@block.statsci.com> (message from Scott Blachowicz on Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:29:35 -0800) Subject: Re: package names From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Not necessarily endorsing this, but it seems reasonable enough... * * The packages for the Debian/Linux distribution generally take the form of * * NAME-ORIG_VERSION-DEBIAN_VERSION * * with the basic idea being that NAME is the package name (e.g. xv or * Xaw3d), ORIG_VERSION is the version as defined by the package (e.g. 3.10a * or 1.2a) and "DEBIAN_VERSION" is a sequence number for the package/port * files. So, you would end up with a package called xv-3.10a-1 or * mtools-2.0.7-12 or whatever. They probably specify the set of characters * that are legitimate for each of those fields in the package name, but I * don't remember what the conventions are, offhand. We already have a rule, which basically states that the "version" part should be integers separated by digits, with optional single alphabets are also allowed too. (The exception of this rule is the string "pl" for "patchlevel", which is permitted when there is only one component in the version string ("foo-pl7" is ok, "bar-2.3pl7" should be changed to "bar-2.3.7") * I don't think it'd be good to be renaming the ports directories or not * every time the port is updated, so I wouldn't include the package version * in the directory name. Could put it as a variable in the ports/Makefile * and include it in the package name generated by the Makefile? The version numbers are never part of the ports directories, unless the old versions are not overwritten because the new versions are popular but unstable/incompatible (e.g., netscape2, tcl74), so don't worry about that. It is certainly possible to do something like this with the variable "PKGNAME". Hmm, what do people think? Will the package directories look too cluttered if we add this to every single package name? (Of course, we'll delete the original from the ftp site as soon as we build the new one, but the names will be longer....) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 05:32:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA12581 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.lmig.com (liberty.lmig.com [136.184.15.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12576 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from tsod.lmig.com by liberty.lmig.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25874; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 08:32:52 -0500 Received: by TSOD.LMIG.COM (Soft-Switch Central V4L380P3); 16 Dec 1995 08:29:08 GMT Message-Id: Date: 16 Dec 1995 08:29:08 GMT From: "Drago-Alexander" Subject: MCA Bus support on the horizon? To: ports@freeBSD.org Comment: MEMO Sender: owner-ports@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I read in the October 30th FreeBSD handbook that there appears to be support for MCA coming soon. For my own personal use... could you speculate on a timeframe for MCA support becoming available? Thanks, Grady Drago From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 09:34:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20604 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 09:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20591 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 09:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01999; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id MAA02732; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:33:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:33:26 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: scott@statsci.com, jacs@gnome.co.uk, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package names In-Reply-To: <199512160815.AAA00749@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 16 Dec 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: [some deletions] > * I don't think it'd be good to be renaming the ports directories or not > * every time the port is updated, so I wouldn't include the package version > * in the directory name. Could put it as a variable in the ports/Makefile > * and include it in the package name generated by the Makefile? > > The version numbers are never part of the ports directories, unless > the old versions are not overwritten because the new versions are > popular but unstable/incompatible (e.g., netscape2, tcl74), so don't > worry about that. > > It is certainly possible to do something like this with the variable > "PKGNAME". Doesn't DISTNAME pretty well cover this? I'm not against improvement, if it doesn't, just being careful of adding needless clutter. > > Hmm, what do people think? Will the package directories look too > cluttered if we add this to every single package name? (Of course, > we'll delete the original from the ftp site as soon as we build the > new one, but the names will be longer....) > > Satoshi > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 10:41:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23137 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gutso.foxharp.boston.ma.us (root@gutso.foxharp.boston.ma.us [204.253.111.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23132 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pgf@localhost) by gutso.foxharp.boston.ma.us (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA32431; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:17:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199512161817.NAA32431@gutso.foxharp.boston.ma.us> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: new version of vile... Reply-to: pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:17:50 -0500 From: Paul Fox Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi -- i did a new release of vile recently, and was wondering if someone could apply these patches to the ports/editors directory to update the version numbers. i assume the proper etiquette is to leave the old version at the master site for a good long time, to ensure that older ports directories still work. is that right? the question is, how long is "a good long time"? any advice appreciated. (specifically, how long should "vile-5.2.tar.gz" continue to exist, now that vile-5.6.tar.gz is available?) (actually, just today there seem to be network problems preventing access to id.wing.net. but the site really is valid. honest...) paul --------------------- paul fox, pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma) Index: vile/Makefile Prereq: 1.5 *** old.editors/vile/Makefile Mon Apr 24 04:42:53 1995 --- editors/vile/Makefile Sat Dec 16 12:50:28 1995 *************** *** 1,12 **** # New ports collection makefile for: vile ! # Version required: 5.2 ! # Date created: Thu Feb 23, 1995 # Whom: pgf # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1995/04/24 03:38:04 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= vile-5.2 CATEGORIES+= editors MASTER_SITES= ftp://id.wing.net/pub/pgf/vile/ --- 1,12 ---- # New ports collection makefile for: vile ! # Version required: 5.6 ! # Date created: Sat Dec 16, 1995 # Whom: pgf # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1995/04/24 03:38:04 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= vile-5.6 CATEGORIES+= editors MASTER_SITES= ftp://id.wing.net/pub/pgf/vile/ Index: xvile/Makefile Prereq: 1.5 *** old.editors/xvile/Makefile Mon Apr 24 04:42:57 1995 --- editors/xvile/Makefile Sat Dec 16 12:51:02 1995 *************** *** 1,13 **** # New ports collection makefile for: xvile ! # Version required: 5.2 ! # Date created: Tue Feb 21, 1995 # Whom: pgf # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1995/04/24 03:38:30 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= vile-5.2 ! PKGNAME= xvile-5.2 CATEGORIES+= editors MASTER_SITES= ftp://id.wing.net/pub/pgf/vile/ --- 1,13 ---- # New ports collection makefile for: xvile ! # Version required: 5.6 ! # Date created: Sat Dec 16, 1995 # Whom: pgf # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1995/04/24 03:38:30 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= vile-5.6 ! PKGNAME= xvile-5.6 CATEGORIES+= editors MASTER_SITES= ftp://id.wing.net/pub/pgf/vile/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 16 12:20:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28808 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28796 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 12:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA12644; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 21:19:58 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA12686; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 21:19:46 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA04090; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 21:08:46 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512162008.VAA04090@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: MCA Bus support on the horizon? To: MSMAIL.DRAGOA1@TSOD.LMIG.COM (Drago-Alexander) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 21:08:45 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freeBSD.org, peter@osix.oz.au Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Drago-Alexander" at Dec 16, 95 08:29:08 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ports@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Drago-Alexander wrote: > > > I read in the October 30th FreeBSD handbook that there appears to be > support for MCA coming soon. For my own personal use... could you > speculate on a timeframe for MCA support becoming available? ``ports'' is certainly the wrong group for this, this is rather related to -hackers. I don't have an idea about the status of the MCA support. To the best of my knowledge, two guys are trying to get it work some day. I'm Cc'ing Peter May for this, since he's one of them. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)