From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 00:39:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA03721 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 00:39:25 -0800 Received: from kbrown (root@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA03715 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 00:39:24 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:37:07 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: 2.0 Problems To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone and Happy New Year! I am trying to compile gopher and pine, does anyone out there know what I need to do in order for them to compile? As for screen 3.5.2 I got from the 2.0 packages, it would just hang the whole VC after I run it and then I have to kill the entire login for that VC from another VC. Any help would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks. Cheers, Vince vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 03:01:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA06668 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:01:11 -0800 Received: from byron.apana.org.au (hack.byron.apana.org.au [203.0.129.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA06656 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:00:59 -0800 Received: by byron.apana.org.au id AA26108 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Sun, 1 Jan 1995 21:29:25 +1030 From: Bruce Moffatt Message-Id: <199501011059.AA26108@byron.apana.org.au> Subject: Driving Canon bj10e To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 21:29:25 -40962758 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 743 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Problem: I am running freebsd 1.1 on a 486-33. I have a Canon bj10e on lpt0, which is giving good output (now that I have switched dip switch 6 to add auto CR to LF), but the printer runs so slowly its not a workable solution. The same printer on the same system but running DOS works ok, but under FreeBSD it seems to get about 10 chars or so, then wait, then do the next 10 etc... I don't know where to start to configure this up. I only have the binary source tree, as space is at a premium, and all the misc FAQs come in the source tree. :( I will be upgrading to FreeBSD 2.? as soon as I am comfortable I can tame the beast (hopefully 2.1 will install easier than 2.0) Any help on printer problem gratefully accepted. :) Thanx, Bruce :) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 06:13:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA08822 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 06:13:57 -0800 Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA08816 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 06:13:55 -0800 Received: by helix.nih.gov (940715.SGI.52/1.35(m-sg-1.0)) id AA02072; Sun, 1 Jan 95 09:13:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 95 09:13:44 -0500 From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Message-Id: <9501011413.AA02072@helix.nih.gov> To: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk : >>I just discovered that "ls -l" reports the creation date incorrectly : >>on symlinks. It reports as the creation date of each symlink, the [...] : the attributes of the parent directory are used instead. See : `man 7 symlink'. : : Bruce Apologies to DG! I waxed acerbic at what appeared to be answers to questions I hadn't asked. Indeed, `man 7 symlink' tells the whole story. Another case of RTFM :-( Still, when information is missing, isn't it generally a Bad Thing to invent a fictitious quantity to report? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@helix.nih.gov From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 14:01:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA20497 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:01:26 -0800 Received: from s069.infonet.net (root@s069.infonet.net [167.142.100.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20488 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:01:21 -0800 Received: (from burgess@localhost) by cynjut.infonet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA06117; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 12:37:38 -0600 From: Dave Burgess Message-Id: <199501011837.MAA06117@cynjut.infonet.net> Subject: Re: Driving Canon bj10e To: bmoffatt@byron.apana.org.au (Bruce Moffatt) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 12:37:37 -0600 (CST) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199501011059.AA26108@byron.apana.org.au> from "Bruce Moffatt" at Jan 1, 95 09:29:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2007 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Problem: > I am running freebsd 1.1 on a 486-33. I have a Canon bj10e on lpt0, which > is giving good output (now that I have switched dip switch 6 to add auto > CR to LF), but the printer runs so slowly its not a workable solution. > The same printer on the same system but running DOS works ok, but under > FreeBSD it seems to get about 10 chars or so, then wait, then do the next > 10 etc... You could have also used a control code in the ff: command in the printcap to acheive the same end. That way, you could set up several 'print devices' that all have different configurations in the printcap, all pointing to the same printer. You wouldn't have to reset the port for those times that CR+LF should NOT be interpreted. > I don't know where to start to configure this up. I only have the binary > source tree, as space is at a premium, and all the misc FAQs come in the > source tree. :( Someone suggested to me that another distribution (the docdist) be created with all of the FAQs and stuff on it. It should also include the instructions from the gnu tree on getting UUCP running and the /usr/share/doc directory. Currently, these are only released as part of the source dist (in /usr/src/share/doc). > I will be upgrading to FreeBSD 2.? as soon as I am comfortable I can tame > the beast (hopefully 2.1 will install easier than 2.0) > Any help on printer problem gratefully accepted. :) > Thanx, > Bruce Assuming that FreeBSD is using a (more or less) similar driver, the NetBSD folks have seen this problem as well. Through experimentation (and a location of a possible bug) we have come to the conclusion that the lpt (interrupt driven) driver just doesn't work very well. The lpa device seems to work much more reliably and much more quickly. In fact, several of us have found that printers which reset immediately (in the middle of a print, for example) should be attached as the non-resetting device and a 'reset device' command be sent in the ff: command in the printcap. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 14:27:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA20581 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:27:31 -0800 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20575 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:27:30 -0800 Received: from kbrown (kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.11) with SMTP id OAA08974 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:27:18 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:24:59 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems To: Michael Olson cc: FreeBSD-questions%freefall.cdrom.com@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Michael Olson wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Vince Chan wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 22:54:56 +0000 > > From: Vince Chan > > To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com > > Subject: 2.0 Problems > > > > Hi everyone and Happy New Year! > > > > I am trying to compile gopher and pine, does anyone out there > > know what I need to do in order for them to compile? As for screen 3.5.2 > > I got from the 2.0 packages, it would just hang the whole VC after I run > > it and then I have to kill the entire login for that VC from another VC. > > Any help would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > Cheers, > > Vince > > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu > > UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > > > > > > Use the patches available from wcarchive.cdrom.com in > /pub/FreeBSD/ports and they compile just fine. > > -- Mike > > "Why Not" is a perfectly good reason. > > Is this for screen, pine, or gopher? Thanks though :-) Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 14:30:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA20596 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:30:26 -0800 Received: from yucca.cs.odu.edu (root@yucca.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20590 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:30:24 -0800 Received: from galileo.cs.odu.edu (olson@galileo.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.14]) by yucca.cs.odu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA07616; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:27:40 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Olson To: Vince Chan cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:21:10 +0000 > From: Vince Chan > To: Michael Olson > Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com > Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems > > On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Michael Olson wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Vince Chan wrote: > > > > > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 22:54:56 +0000 > > > From: Vince Chan > > > To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com > > > Subject: 2.0 Problems > > > > > > Hi everyone and Happy New Year! > > > > > > I am trying to compile gopher and pine, does anyone out there > > > know what I need to do in order for them to compile? As for screen 3.5.2 > > > I got from the 2.0 packages, it would just hang the whole VC after I run > > > it and then I have to kill the entire login for that VC from another VC. > > > Any help would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Vince > > > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu > > > UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > > > > > > > > > > Use the patches available from wcarchive.cdrom.com in > > /pub/FreeBSD/ports and they compile just fine. > > > > -- Mike > > > > "Why Not" is a perfectly good reason. > > > > > > Is this for screen, pine, or gopher? > > Thanks though :-) > > > Cheers, > Vince All three. pine is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/mail/pine, gopher is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/net/gopher, and screen is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/utils/screen Or you can grab the entire distribution from /pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles -- Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 14:38:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA20657 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:38:44 -0800 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20651 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:38:44 -0800 Received: from kbrown (kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.11) with SMTP id OAA10224 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:38:26 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:36:13 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems To: Michael Olson cc: FreeBSD-questions%freefall.cdrom.com@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Michael Olson wrote: > All three. pine is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/mail/pine, > gopher is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/net/gopher, and screen is > under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/utils/screen > > Or you can grab the entire distribution from /pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles > > -- Mike > Thanks for the help though. Hmmm, so do I run the patches in with patch < filename before I even run the configure program since this is the first time I've used patches. Now, hopefully someone can help me getting XFree86 to work with my SONY 1304 Monitor and a 1991 Diamond SpeedStar+ Hi-Color Card. Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 14:56:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA20865 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:56:06 -0800 Received: from picspc01.pics.com (picspc01.pics.com [192.135.189.20]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA20855; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 14:56:03 -0800 Received: (from tpr@localhost) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA04717; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:07:15 GMT From: Terry Rossi Message-Id: <199501011807.SAA04717@picspc01.pics.com> Subject: signal 6 & 11 Exits wu-ftpd To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:07:14 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: tpr@pics.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 779 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have just installed wu-ftpd 2.4 on a FreeBSD v2.0 system and when uploading file to the server, after the first file is written to disk wu-ftpd dumps core and exits with the following error: Jan 1 12:14:05 picspc01 ftpd[2792]: exiting on signal 11 Jan 1 12:14:05 picspc01 kernel: pid 2792: ftpd: uid 300: exited on signal 6 I have no idea what I am doing wrong here? Any clues are appreciated. /Regards/Terry -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Terry Rossi Data: 609/753-2540 | | Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com| | 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:07:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21033 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:07:38 -0800 Received: from kbrown (root@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA21017; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:07:31 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:05:11 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: signal 6 & 11 Exits wu-ftpd To: tpr@pics.com cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501011807.SAA04717@picspc01.pics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Terry Rossi wrote: > I have just installed wu-ftpd 2.4 on a FreeBSD v2.0 system and when > uploading file to the server, after the first file is written to disk > wu-ftpd dumps core and exits with the following error: > > Jan 1 12:14:05 picspc01 ftpd[2792]: exiting on signal 11 > Jan 1 12:14:05 picspc01 kernel: pid 2792: ftpd: uid 300: exited on signal 6 > > I have no idea what I am doing wrong here? Any clues are appreciated. > > /Regards/Terry > > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Terry Rossi Data: 609/753-2540 | > | Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com| > | 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > I'll take a guess at this one but I think you need the patches from freebsd.cdrom.com under /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:09:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21068 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:09:20 -0800 Received: from yucca.cs.odu.edu (root@yucca.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA21062 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:09:16 -0800 Received: from galileo.cs.odu.edu (olson@galileo.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.14]) by yucca.cs.odu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA07567; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:17:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:18:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Olson To: Vince Chan cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Vince Chan wrote: > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 22:54:56 +0000 > From: Vince Chan > To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com > Subject: 2.0 Problems > > Hi everyone and Happy New Year! > > I am trying to compile gopher and pine, does anyone out there > know what I need to do in order for them to compile? As for screen 3.5.2 > I got from the 2.0 packages, it would just hang the whole VC after I run > it and then I have to kill the entire login for that VC from another VC. > Any help would be most greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > Cheers, > Vince > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu > UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > > Use the patches available from wcarchive.cdrom.com in /pub/FreeBSD/ports and they compile just fine. -- Mike "Why Not" is a perfectly good reason. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:14:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21188 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:14:57 -0800 Received: from kbrown (root@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA21182 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:14:55 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:12:36 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: screen problems under 2.0R To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I got screen 3.6.0 compiled under 2.0R with the patches on wcarchive and now it works for everyone except root, for root: bigbang# screen Bus error (core dumped) bigbang# Anyone have any ideas what's going on? Thanks. Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:22:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21428 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:22:41 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA21422 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:22:36 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA28976 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 16:23:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199501012323.QAA28976@clem.systemsix.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: hardware for 2.0 Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 16:23:22 -0700 From: Steve Passe Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Need hardware recommendations for freeBSD 2.0 1: fast (but stable) ethernet card for PCI bus? 2: sound card with bells & whistles, supported by drivers AND common packages (xmix, xcdplayer, etc)? thanx in advance Steve Passe smp@clem.systemsix.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:22:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21438 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:22:45 -0800 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA21430 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:22:43 -0800 Received: from yucca.cs.odu.edu (yucca.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.6]) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.11) with ESMTP id PAA15402 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:22:31 -0800 Received: from galileo.cs.odu.edu (olson@galileo.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.14]) by yucca.cs.odu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id SAA08018; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:19:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:20:46 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Olson To: Vince Chan cc: FreeBSD-questions%freefall.cdrom.com@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 17:36:13 +0000 > From: Vince Chan > To: Michael Olson > Cc: FreeBSD-questions%freefall.cdrom.com@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems > > On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Michael Olson wrote: > > > All three. pine is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/mail/pine, > > gopher is under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/net/gopher, and screen is > > under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/utils/screen > > > > Or you can grab the entire distribution from /pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles > > > > -- Mike > > > > Thanks for the help though. Hmmm, so do I run the patches in with > patch < filename before I even run the configure program since this is the > first time I've used patches. Now, hopefully someone can help me getting > XFree86 to work with my SONY 1304 Monitor and a 1991 Diamond SpeedStar+ > Hi-Color Card. > > > Cheers, > Vince > E-mail: > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. > root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | > | leap of the 21st Century. | > \_________________________________________________________________/ > uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > Los Angeles, California USA > > GUS Digest Adminstrator > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology > > > Apply the patches before customizing/configureing (That way you don't change something that would normally be patched.) and then build. -- Mike "Why Not" is a perfectly good reason. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 15:26:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA21543 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:26:46 -0800 Received: from kbrown (root@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu [130.132.128.124]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA21535 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 15:26:44 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 18:24:21 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: 2.0 Problems To: Michael Olson cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Michael Olson wrote: > > Thanks for the help though. Hmmm, so do I run the patches in with > > patch < filename before I even run the configure program since this is the > > first time I've used patches. Now, hopefully someone can help me getting > > XFree86 to work with my SONY 1304 Monitor and a 1991 Diamond SpeedStar+ > > Hi-Color Card. > > > Apply the patches before customizing/configureing (That way you don't > change something that would normally be patched.) and then build. > > -- Mike > > "Why Not" is a perfectly good reason. > > Well, I got screen compiled with the patches and now it works fine for everyone except root, root still does the following: bigbang# screen Bus error (core dumped) bigbang# Any ideas and do you know where I can get help with XFree86 v3.1 setup? Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 1 23:22:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA22597 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 23:22:18 -0800 Received: from EDLANE.LANE.EDU (edlane.lane.edu [158.165.1.26]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22590 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 23:22:16 -0800 Received: from pmdf.lane.edu by MRED.LANE.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #3811) id <01HLC77HBTJK000GTH@MRED.LANE.EDU>; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 16:26:44 PST Received: with PMDF-MR; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 16:12:28 PST MR-Received: by mta EUG4JA; Relayed; Sun, 01 Jan 1995 16:12:28 -0800 MR-Received: by mta EDLANE; Relayed; Sun, 01 Jan 1995 16:18:01 -0800 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney Subject: disklabeling wd3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HLC77L74ZA000GTH@pmdf.lane.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Sun, 01 Jan 1995 16:07:00 -0800 (PST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;82216110105991/374355@4JNET] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk well... I reciently upgraded my machine and put in a VL/Bus controler in the machine and at first just added a 40meg ide drive to the second channel... then I decided to add another drive to the second channel and now I can't disklabel it... the first drive I had no problems disklabeling... here is a little bit about my machine: 486/33DX 8megs RAM, VL/Bus motherboard 130meg and 40meg on wdc0 (standard) 40meg and 85meg on wdc1 (standard) two NE2000 clone cards, one BNC, other UTP AST VGA card (NOTE: machine is not an AST, but hand put together) this is the results of the boot up for wdc1: Jan 1 15:17:48 unix kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jan 1 15:17:48 unix kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): Jan 1 15:17:49 unix kernel: wd3: 85MB (174080 total sec), 1024 cyl, 10 head, I have managed to mount this when I had a dos partition... and still can as I have not been able to disklabel the drive... this is what it returns: disklabel: /dev/rwd3c: No such file or directory I have run /dev/MAKEDEV wd3, also... I have check to make sure that it does indead exist... and here is the ls -l entry for it: crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 26 Jan 1 15:31 /dev/rwd3c this is exactly like the other rwdXc entries execpt the minor version number is less on the others... also... incase you need it... this is the disktab entry that I am trying to write to it: st3089at|Seagate 85MB IDE:\ :dt=IDE:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#10:ns#17:nc#1024:\ :pe#78200:oe#170:\ :pf#95710:of#78370:\ :pc#173910:oc#170:\ :pd#174080:od#0: I hope I can get this problem soveled... thanks for the help... John-Mark Gurney gurney_j@efn.org gurney_j@4j.lane.edu John-Mark Gurney @ 1:152/56.2@fidonet.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 00:18:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA24074 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:18:03 -0800 Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA24065 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 00:18:01 -0800 Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.8.1/56) id XAA11488; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 23:07:12 -0500 From: Mark Bynum Message-Id: <199501020407.XAA11488@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Any other sound cards work? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 23:07:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 381 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am thinking of buying a sound card and was wondering if any others were supported than was just in the FAQ. Do sounds cards that say they are compatible with Sound Blasters work, or is just the Sound Blaster that is supported? Are there going to be any additional sound cards supported in 2.1? Can anybody recommend a good one? Thanks in advance, Mark Bynum bynum@cs.fsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 03:52:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA26658 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 03:52:44 -0800 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26648 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 03:51:52 -0800 Received: (uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.8/8.3) id MAA00828; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:50:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:50:15 +0100 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199501021150.MAA00828@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> To: sc67+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Boot Manager Prob? In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Seth Andrew Covitz ' dated: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:03:49 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! You have to change the file boot.c in /usr/src/sys/i386/boot. Change the line part = unit = 0; into part = 0; unit = 1; even if you have one ISA drive (wd0) and a scsi dive as the second disk (sd0) you must also modify the following line: maj = (drive&0x80 ? 0 : 2); /* a good first bet */ into maj = (drive&0x80 ? 1 : 2); /* a good first bet */ and reinstall the bootblocks on the drive. Good luck Lars ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lars Köller E-Mail: University of Rostock (Germany) lars.koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik lars.koeller@physik.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitätsplatz 3 Phone: +49 381/498-1665 or 498-1648 18051 Rostock Fax: +49 381/498-1667 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 06:49:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA28531 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 06:49:42 -0800 Received: from critter.clark.net (critter.clark.net [168.143.4.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA28525 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 06:49:36 -0800 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by critter.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA01972; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:49:39 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:48:12 +0000 From: Ron Steele Subject: Need help with ftp installation To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to do an installation by ftping over ethernet and I am stuck. When I start up ftp on the target machine I get a ftp connection and login prompt from the host (a 2.0 machine), but as soon as I type anything in, the link freezes up. I can ^Z out of this and do it again and again with the same result. Telnet also hangs up. In fact, the only thing that I have tried that works is ping, which seems to work fine in both directions. This seems like something that ought to be dirt simple, what am I missing? Ron Steele rjs@clark.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 07:13:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA29093 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 07:13:10 -0800 Received: from critter (critter.clark.net [168.143.4.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA29087 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 07:13:05 -0800 Received: (from rjs@localhost) by critter.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA01253 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:24:02 GMT Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 22:24:02 GMT From: Ron Steele Message-Id: <199501012224.WAA01253@critter.clark.net> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Need network bininst help Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to do an installation by ftping over ethernet and I am stuck. When I start up ftp on the target machine I get a ftp connection and login prompt from the host (a 2.0 machine), but as soon as I type anything in, the link freezes up. I can ^Z out of this and do it again and again with the same result. Telnet also hangs up. In fact, the only thing that I have tried that works is ping, which seems to work fine in both directions. This seems like something that ought to be dirt simple, what am I missing? Ron Steele rjs@clark.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 07:48:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA29514 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 07:48:14 -0800 Received: from pine.cse.nau.edu (aab@pine.cse.nau.edu [134.114.64.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA29508 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 07:48:12 -0800 Received: (from aab@localhost) by pine.cse.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id IAA14545 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 08:47:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199501021547.IAA14545@pine.cse.nau.edu> From: aab@pine.cse.nau.edu (Alvin A Begaye) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 08:47:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: install problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble installing FreeBSD from my DOS Partition. I ran fdisk. set up and wrote my freebsd partition. also ran DISKLABEL setup 20Meg for / (a) 32Meg for swap (b) 324Meg for /usr (f) 140Meg /dos (e) then I select (DOS) when it ask me from which I want to install from selected: /dev/wd0e My directory on my dos partition for the bindist is C:\FREEBSD\BINDIST when asked for the parent directory of the distribution. I put freebsd then it says can't mount /mnt/freebsd/"bindist" I'm installing the 12/24/94 SNAP distribution. What am i doing wrong? thanks, Alvin -- Alvin Al Begaye -*- (602)523-7875 -*- aab@pine.cse.nau.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 08:39:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA29794 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 08:39:04 -0800 Received: from spike.fa.gau.hu (spike.fa.gau.hu [192.188.243.132]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA29788 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 08:39:00 -0800 Received: (from lemle@localhost) by spike.fa.gau.hu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA01173; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:38:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:38:57 +0100 (MET) From: Lemle Geza To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: IPX (Novell NetWare) client for BSD (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anybody know about a Novell client for FreeBSD? Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 09:00:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA00141 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:00:02 -0800 Received: from AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT (helios.edvz.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA00135 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:00:00 -0800 Received: from HUEARN.SZTAKI.HU by AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6698; Mon, 02 Jan 95 17:58:51 MEZ Received: from HUGBOX.BITNET (NJE origin MAILER@HUGBOX) by HUEARN.SZTAKI.HU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5849; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:59:25 +0100 Received: from HUGIRK51.BITNET (MAILER) by HUGBOX (MX V4.1 VAX) with BSMTP; Mon, 02 Jan 1995 18:02:23 gmt+1 Received: from charon.gau.hu by vax.gau.hu (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Mon, 02 Jan 1995 17:59:15 gmt+1 Received: From RKT/WORKQUEUE by charon.gau.hu via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.950102175909.416; 02 Jan 95 17:58:55 +0500 Message-ID: From: "Lemle Geza MG/III." Organization: GAU, Faculty of Agriculture To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:58:14 EST Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anybody know about a Novell client for FreeBSD (2.0 RELEASE) ? Thanks, Lemle Geza (geza@fa.gau.hu, lemle@spike.fa.gau.hu) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 09:59:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA00704 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:59:42 -0800 Received: from icus.com (icus.com [198.252.182.104]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00673 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 09:59:37 -0800 Received: (from Ufrshair@localhost) by icus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id MAA03643 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:00:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by frshaire.wiz.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id LAA16638 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:47:34 -0600 Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tenforwd.wiz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA03256 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:38:54 -0600 From: Jeff Haynes Message-Id: <199501021738.LAA03256@tenforwd.wiz.com> Subject: Serial port questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:38:54 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 609 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having a problem getting slattach to work while mgetty is running. slattach will dial out, but then mgetty seems to take over. This seems to be a locking problem. UUCP and mgetty work fine together, so I think this is a problem with how slattach locks the line. I had no problems in 1.1.5.1. I am running 2.0 now. slattach, mgetty and UUCP are using ttyd0 (not cua0 and ttyd0); this should be a bidirectional port right? It seems to me that slattach needs to do something different when it locks the line. Can somebody please help me out? Thanks in advance. -- Jeff Haynes jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 10:46:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA01113 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:46:56 -0800 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (root@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA01107 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:46:54 -0800 From: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu Received: from spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:46:38 -0500 Received: by spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) id ; Mon, 2 Jan 95 13:45:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9501021845.AA23000@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: Re: Any other sound cards work? To: bynum@sed.cs.fsu.edu (Mark Bynum) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:44:57 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501020407.XAA11488@sed.cs.fsu.edu> from "Mark Bynum" at Jan 1, 95 11:07:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 737 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk } } I am thinking of buying a sound card and was wondering if any others were } supported than was just in the FAQ. Do sounds cards that say they are } compatible with Sound Blasters work, or is just the Sound Blaster that is } supported? Are there going to be any additional sound cards supported in 2.1? } Can anybody recommend a good one? Hiya, Yes, my Media Vision card works fine with FreeBSD. It's a Soundblaster 2.0 compatible card with a Mitsumi FX-001 CD-ROM interface. Both the card and my CD-ROM work great. The only trick is that the card has to be reset by the DOS device drivers before either will work. -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 13:35:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA05023 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:35:54 -0800 Received: from taliesin.ip.net (taliesin.ip.net [199.3.224.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA05014 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:35:51 -0800 Received: from (www) by taliesin.ip.net (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NX3.0M) id AA10336; Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:30:59 GMT-0500 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:30:59 GMT-0500 From: Mark Imbriaco Message-Id: <9501022130.AA10336@taliesin.ip.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP! (Installing 2.0) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Here's the situation: Install works fine up until I try and grab the bindist off of a machine with ftp. The interface gets setup correctly (as far as I can tell), and ftp tries to make a connection, but hangs right after the username prompt. I can telnet out from /bin/sh on the box, but the connection seems very jerky and sporadic, even over local ethernet. I am able to ping any machine on my local ethernet, and am able to ping the machine that is trying to have FreeBSD installed on it, but I still can't get ftp to work properly. Any clues, suggestions, or advice? -Mark Imbriaco From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 14:07:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA05400 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:07:32 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA05394 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:07:30 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA14568; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:06:17 PST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Reply-To: Sherman F Mui Subject: floppy tape backup, how? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just get a new tape backup (Conner TSM420R). It's supposedly fully compatable with QIC-40/80. It came with a QIC-WIDE tape, but that's not a problem yet. This is with FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 I can't get it to do anything (except panic and reboot). I had to modify my kernel config: #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 1 It's my secondary "floppy" drive. I don't have the cables to use it as the third drive. Here's what I did to get a nice panic message: tar -cf /dev/ft0 /root It starts doing nuts with the hard drive and after about 30 seconds the hd light turns off. 3 seconds later my computer reboots. I guess I'm supposed to use dump to do these backups, but shouldn't this thing work anyway? So I'm off to try dump... Thanks, Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 14:51:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA06103 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:51:11 -0800 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA06096 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:51:10 -0800 Received: from hpautow.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA130837053; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:50:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199501022250.AA130837053@hp.com> Received: by hpautow.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03883; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:49:28 +1100 From: "M.C Wong" Subject: FreeBSD-2.1 To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 9:49:28 EDT X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14.c] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just come back from the break and wonder when 2.1 is expected. Thanks in advance. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 15:08:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA06596 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:08:16 -0800 Received: from hermes.cybernetics.net (hermes.cybernetics.net [198.80.51.103]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA06590 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:08:13 -0800 Received: (from james@localhost) by hermes.cybernetics.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA19038 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:08:57 -0500 From: James Robinson Message-Id: <199501022308.SAA19038@hermes.cybernetics.net> Subject: Fix for 1.1.5.1 PPP over PTYs ? To: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:08:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 445 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Could any kind soul point me to the file that needs to be touched up to allow a .5.1 kernel to pass PPP over a PTY? Thanks! James : James Robinson : james@hermes.cybernetics.net ::See the screaming hot black :FreeBSD|XFree86 :The best things in life are Free:: steaming iridescent : Frank Zappa : Music is the best ::naughahyde python screaming : HTTP Server : http://hermes.cybernetics.net/ :: steam roller! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 15:37:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA06902 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:37:31 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA06896; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:37:30 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02074; Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:31:08 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501022331.AA02074@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:31:07 MST Cc: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199412310244.NAA19380@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Dec 31, 94 01:44:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >It is precisely the fact that a DOS file system can not store all of > >the date information required by POSIX that makes it impossible to > >produce a POSIX compliant DOS file system. The DOS FS simply can > >not comply with the POSIX "shall mark for update" and "shall update" > >directives. > > >POSIX leaves a loophole, allowing read-only media to ignore the > >update requirements -- so you can be technically compliant if you > >mount the disk read-only. Very useful. 8-). > > Pretending that directories were modified at the current time breaks > even this :-). Actually, no it doesn't. POSIX doesn't require the information be accurate. POSIX only required that the information be updated in certain circumstances. Directories, on the other hand, do not even need to be considered as files at all... the update semantics are based on the opendir/readdir. The question is whether or not it is legal to make a distinction between a file descriptor being used to access a directory and one being used to access a file, such that the first is not considered a file access. This is, it turns out, legal. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 15:41:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA06981 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:41:55 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA06975 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:41:54 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA17524; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:40:44 PST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:40:43 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: Re: floppy tape backup, how? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Sherman F Mui wrote: > I guess I'm supposed to use dump to do these backups, but shouldn't this > thing work anyway? Hi, me again (yay), I tried dump, it paniced again: dump 0usfd 400 /dev/ft0 43690 /dev/sd0a And it locks up all of my input devices (mouse & keyboard), I didn't notice that before. I thought maybe something wasn't right with the tape drive. So I tried out the software it came with in windoze, and it verified that it was a QIC-80 format and did a test write to my tape. Also, whenever I put in the tape for the first time, it does something (i can hear the tape). But I guess that's just the hardware doing that by itself. Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 15:45:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA07046 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:45:28 -0800 Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA07025 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:44:55 -0800 Received: from p0.uniserve.com (p0.uniserve.com [198.53.215.193]) by haven.uniserve.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA21827; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:33:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:33:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199501022233.OAA21827@haven.uniserve.com> X-Sender: tom@haven.uniserve.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Mark Imbriaco , questions@freebsd.org From: tom@haven.uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) Subject: Re: HELP! (Installing 2.0) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 04:30 PM 1/2/95 GMT-0500, Mark Imbriaco wrote: > >Here's the situation: Install works fine up until I try and grab the >bindist off of a machine with ftp. The interface gets setup correctly >(as far as I can tell), and ftp tries to make a connection, but hangs >right after the username prompt. I can telnet out from /bin/sh on the >box, but the connection seems very jerky and sporadic, even over local >ethernet. I am able to ping any machine on my local ethernet, and am >able to ping the machine that is trying to have FreeBSD installed on it, >but I still can't get ftp to work properly. > >Any clues, suggestions, or advice? > >-Mark Imbriaco The exact same thing happened to me on several different installs. I resorted to using floppies. Once, I rebooted with the bindist, everything appeared to be alright though. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 15:58:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA07279 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:58:25 -0800 Received: from unix-nut.clark.net (unix-nut.clark.net [168.143.1.18]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA07273 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:58:20 -0800 Received: (from steven@localhost) by unix-nut.clark.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00273 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:00:39 -0500 From: Steven Myrtle Message-Id: <199501030000.TAA00273@unix-nut.clark.net> Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 docs clarification suggestion To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:00:39 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: steven@clark.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 553 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I installed FreeBSD 2.0 yesterday to see what it's like. Since I was installing it on a 2nd drive, I read the troubleshooting guide which said I needed to boot using hd(1,a)/kernel. The boot proceeded fine, but the kernel always stopped with a "panic: cannot mount root" message. It took me 2-3 hours to realize I needed to boot with wd(1,a) since I have IDE drives. Maybe that fact is mentioned somewhere else, but I didn't see it. :-) Thought maybe you might want to add a clarification so others won't get stuck with the same problem. - Steven From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 16:14:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA07570 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:14:20 -0800 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA07563 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:14:14 -0800 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <08734-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:13:24 +1000 Received: from saturn.mincom.oz.au by minbne.mincom.oz.au with SMTP id AA28583 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for bmoffatt@byron.apana.org.au); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:55:58 +1000 Received: by saturn.mincom.oz.au id AA20222 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:51:35 +1000 From: Ian Holland Message-Id: <199501022351.AA20222@saturn.mincom.oz.au> Subject: Re: Driving Canon bj10e To: bmoffatt@byron.apana.org.au (Bruce Moffatt) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:51:35 +1000 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199501011059.AA26108@byron.apana.org.au> from "Bruce Moffatt" at Jan 1, 95 09:29:25 pm Reply-To: ianh@mincom.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 841 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Moffatt enscribed: > > Problem: > I am running freebsd 1.1 on a 486-33. I have a Canon bj10e on lpt0, which > is giving good output (now that I have switched dip switch 6 to add auto > CR to LF), but the printer runs so slowly its not a workable solution. > I will be upgrading to FreeBSD 2.? as soon as I am comfortable I can tame > the beast (hopefully 2.1 will install easier than 2.0) > Any help on printer problem gratefully accepted. :) I used to have this same setup (except it was a 386-33), and know what you mean. The solution I found (and you probably aren't going to like this) was to upgrade to 1.1.5 - even the ghostscript output appeared to scream on through. So, I guess, if you can hold on until you go to 2.0, you won't have the problem any longer. -- Ian Holland Mincom Pty Ltd ianh@mincom.oz.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 16:20:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA07729 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:20:48 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA07723 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:20:47 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02180; Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:59:31 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501022359.AA02180@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? To: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 16:59:30 MST Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9501011413.AA02072@helix.nih.gov> from "Chuck Bacon" at Jan 1, 95 09:13:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Still, when information is missing, isn't it generally a Bad Thing > to invent a fictitious quantity to report? Uh, what non-invented fictitious quantity would you suggest substituting? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 16:40:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA07926 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:40:49 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA07920 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:40:47 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02451; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:34:46 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501030034.AA02451@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Serial port questions To: jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com (Jeff Haynes) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:34:45 MST Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501021738.LAA03256@tenforwd.wiz.com> from "Jeff Haynes" at Jan 2, 95 11:38:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am having a problem getting slattach to work while mgetty is running. > slattach will dial out, but then mgetty seems to take over. This seems > to be a locking problem. Darn right! mgetty should be "locked out" of having its open complete until DCD is present! Because mgetty violates the rules, you get bogus behaviour. The SCO uugetty used to violate the rules as well. It was hacked to respect lock files (and to create them) and then retry its open something like once every 20 seconds until the lock file went away. > UUCP and mgetty work fine together, so I think this is a problem with > how slattach locks the line. I had no problems in 1.1.5.1. I am running > 2.0 now. Yes and no; mgetty's open of the line not hanging for DCD to become present is unutterably bogus. > slattach, mgetty and UUCP are using ttyd0 (not cua0 and ttyd0); this should > be a bidirectional port right? A bidirectional port is only bidirectional if incoming opens are incomplete without DCD present and the device prevents DCD from coming present if the outgoing device for the port is already open. > Can somebody please help me out? A terrifically gross "fix" for this is possible: 1) Make the port the controlling tty for mgetty. 2) Make mgetty respect SIGHUP. When it gets SIGHUP, have it close and reopen the line. 3) Modify the tty code. When the outgoing port is openend AND the incoming (mgetty) port is fully open (ie: it is violating the rules like mgetty does and ignoring DCD), send SIGHUP to the process group for the tty. Note that outgoing connections must either not establish the port as their controlling tty, or must do so after this, or the SIGHUP delivery needs to be internal to the tty code (ie: it doesn't really signal the process group, only the part process group on the incoming side). 4) Modify the tty code. When an open is attempted on the incoming device AND the outgoing device is already open, block the open on the incoming device even if it is cheating (like mgetty does) using O_NDELAY. 5) Modify the tty code. When an open is blocked on the incoming device (a result of #4 above), and the last close occurs on the outgoing device, unblock the open on the incoming device. This would probably be the "correct" way to do it, since it would only get tickled if the incoming open refused to wait for DCD like it is most definitely supposed to, according to all that is Holy (mgetty is the spawn of Satan, it only looks like a child process of init). I should not have to twiddle meta-state about a device other than the device information itself (via ioctl()). Lock files are evil, and are the work of AT&T SVR3.x. Multiple processes wanting to go out simultaneously need to be mediated by the exclusive use bit, with special dispensation to exclusive use on tty's being given in the fork() code that duplictes the descriptor table. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 17:25:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA08288 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:25:08 -0800 Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA08282 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:25:07 -0800 Received: by helix.nih.gov (940715.SGI.52/1.35(m-sg-1.0)) id AA01481; Mon, 2 Jan 95 20:24:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 20:24:51 -0500 From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Message-Id: <9501030124.AA01481@helix.nih.gov> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster support? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone explaing the FreeBSD support status of the various flavors of SoundBlaster card? I have a SB 16-SCSI card which I would like to plug in, in place of an Adaptec 1542C(F?). The SB manuals include an Adaptec manual. Does this mean I should be able to just drop it in (modulo its jumpers)? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@helix.nih.gov From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 17:36:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA08327 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:36:15 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA08321 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:36:15 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA21439; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:35:08 PST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:35:07 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: Tape drive troubls (still) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A few people have replied to me, all of them telling me about 'ft' and how to use it. I tried it with tar: machine panics, get a nice 17 meg dump. Tried it with dump: machine just reboots, no 17 meg dump though... Each attempt never accesses the tape drive (light never turns on). Just the hd light stays on for a while. Nothing works, then reboots. Since no one metioned anything about my kernel changes, I assume they're correct... So if no one knows what's wrong, I guess I'll have to go back and get another one. Anyone have specific tape drive models (floppy based) that work with FreeBSD 1.1.5.1, and are fairly high capacity, and low priced. Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 18:08:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA08464 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:08:16 -0800 Received: from picspc01.pics.com (picspc01.pics.com [192.135.189.20]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08458 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:08:12 -0800 Received: (from tpr@localhost) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA08178 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:19:46 GMT From: Terry Rossi Message-Id: <199501022119.VAA08178@picspc01.pics.com> Subject: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:19:45 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 663 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to jet my HP LJII clone to work on my bsd 2.0 box with no luck. The real problem is I do not understand the way bsd printing works. It would be REALLY helpful if someone could send me a working printcap and any filters that are needed. Thanks in advance. Terry -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Terry Rossi,tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 | | Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com| | 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 18:59:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA08952 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:59:49 -0800 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08945 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:59:48 -0800 Received: from hpautow.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA198261971; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:59:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199501030259.AA198261971@hp.com> Received: by hpautow.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05650; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:58:01 +1100 From: "M.C Wong" Subject: Re: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0 To: tpr@picspc01.pics.com (Terry Rossi) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 13:58:01 EDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501022119.VAA08178@picspc01.pics.com>; from "Terry Rossi" at Jan 2, 95 9:19 pm X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14.c] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I have been trying to jet my HP LJII clone to work on my bsd 2.0 box > with no luck. The real problem is I do not understand the way bsd > printing works. It would be REALLY helpful if someone could send me > a working printcap and any filters that are needed. > > Thanks in advance. > > Terry > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Terry Rossi,tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 | > | Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com| > | 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Questions like these turn up VERY often (myself too), and I start thinking that do we need something similar to Linux HOWTO doc ? In fact the HOWTO doc on printing can be used by FreeBSD users, as they are BSD lpr stuff, happen to be written by Linux users. I think it's time we start thinking seriously about FreeBSD Documentation Project (FDP). My 0.02 opinion. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 19:51:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id TAA09475 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:51:25 -0800 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA09469; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 19:51:17 -0800 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA25660; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:48:20 +1100 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:48:20 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199501030348.OAA25660@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, terry@cs.weber.edu Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? Cc: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> >POSIX leaves a loophole, allowing read-only media to ignore the >> >update requirements -- so you can be technically compliant if you >> >mount the disk read-only. Very useful. 8-). >> >> Pretending that directories were modified at the current time breaks >> even this :-). >Actually, no it doesn't. >POSIX doesn't require the information be accurate. >POSIX only required that the information be updated in certain >circumstances. 2.3.5 ... "Updates are not done on files on read only file systems." Do you think this is badly worded enough to be optional? (It should say "shall not be done".) Do you think file times are allowed to changed if they haven't been updated? I couldn't find anything saying that. I wouldn't want to use an implementation that changed them. >Directories, on the other hand, do not even need to be considered as files >at all... the update semantics are based on the opendir/readdir. The They do for creat() etc. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 20:34:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA09719 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:34:32 -0800 Received: from bonk.io.org (root@bonk.io.org [198.133.36.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09713 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:34:27 -0800 Received: (from skeezix@localhost) by bonk.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA09420; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:09:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:09:21 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Mitchell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: C++ In-Reply-To: <199501022119.VAA08178@picspc01.pics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I know G++ is still somewhat unreliable and all.. but I'm on 1.1.5 or some such older FreeBSD (cause I'm doing development work and don't have much time to go reinstalling the OS and having it flaky for awhile till I get it all set right :) .. I've got gdb up to 4.11 which seams tolerable enough.. I need to do a bit of c++.. gcc 2.4.5 is bad for this.. I've got the sources for 2.6.3 - will it compile out of the box? And howabout the libg++ sources? Jeff SLvH | "Good - bad - I'm the guy with the gun." Jeff Mitchell | "Hail to the king, baby." skeezix@io.org | -- Bruce Campbell, Armies of Darkness From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 21:47:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA10132 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:47:39 -0800 Received: from beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA10126 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:47:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199501030547.VAA10126@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA08038; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:46:41 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: "super block size 0 " problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:46:41 EAT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, Today I am trying to install a modified bootstrap loader and fail. disklabel keeps complaining "Warning, revolutions/minute 0" and "super block size 0". After examing the source of disklabel, I find the "super block size 0" keeps me from writing out boot loader. In addition to super bock size 0, the rpm, interleave, trackskew, cylinderskew,headswitch,track-to-track seek, drive data are all zero. This hard disk is a Quantum 540A 516MB IDE one, installed as 2nd hard disk, from cyclinder 236 to 1048 assigned to FreeBSD. And it works fine so far. I just can't figure out why my super block size could be zero. Any idea ? What if I modify disklabel to write out bootstrap loader no matter how my super block size is zero ? Will this ruin my whole system ? -- Yen-Wei Liu (ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 2 21:59:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA10274 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:59:03 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA10268 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:59:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA01744; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:58:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark Tinguely cc: spetry@unf6.cis.unf.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Dec 94 12:42:21 CST." <199412311842.AA07118@plains.NoDak.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 21:58:28 -0800 Message-ID: <1743.789112708@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I had the mitsumi interface working on a sound galaxy card (a soundblaster > clone) a few months back (took the mitsumi drive from one gateway 2000 and > stuck it in another gateway 2000 with the sound galaxy). make sure the Perhaps what this is then is a mitsumi-compatible controller interface sitting on a clone sound card. If so, i'm not surprised that it works since it looks to FreeBSD just like a standard mitsumi drive/card combo. A genuine SB16 with a Creative Labs supplied CDROM drive will be a wholly different animal, however, and I fear that we have to say that we still don't support it. That is unless Andreas has done something I'm unaware of recently! :-) Bottom line: If this drive now works, then we need to doc it properly. If it doesn't work, then it's getting long past time for it to work. Linux has had such support for AGES now and I'm really hoping that somebody will finally emerge from the woodwork with a working driver. This is getting ridiculous! :-( ** ** If SB16 support HAS been added, then substitute "IDE CDROM" into the last paragraph.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 00:00:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA11710 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:00:29 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA11704 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:00:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02280; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:00:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Vince Chan cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: screen problems under 2.0R In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Jan 95 18:12:36 GMT." Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 00:00:12 -0800 Message-ID: <2279.789120012@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Ok, I got screen 3.6.0 compiled under 2.0R with the patches on > wcarchive and now it works for everyone except root, for root: > > bigbang# screen > Bus error (core dumped) Please include *stack traces* with these problem reports! :-( This tells us nothing.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 01:54:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA13676 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 01:54:37 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA13670 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 01:54:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA02887; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 01:54:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Ron Steele cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Need help with ftp installation In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Jan 95 09:48:12 GMT." Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 01:54:11 -0800 Message-ID: <2885.789126851@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to do an installation by ftping over ethernet and I am > stuck. When I start up ftp on the target machine I get a ftp > connection and login prompt from the host (a 2.0 machine), but as > soon as I type anything in, the link freezes up. I can ^Z out of this > and do it again and again with the same result. Telnet also hangs up. > In fact, the only thing that I have tried that works is ping, which > seems to work fine in both directions. Are you sure you have all the proper value for netmask and default gateway (if any)? How about your ethernet card - did it initialize properly? What kind is it? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 02:28:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA14262 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:28:06 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA14256 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:28:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA03092; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:27:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: aab@pine.cse.nau.edu (Alvin A Begaye) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Jan 95 08:47:49 MST." <199501021547.IAA14545@pine.cse.nau.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 02:27:37 -0800 Message-ID: <3091.789128857@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > when asked for the parent directory of the distribution. I put > freebsd > > then it says > can't mount /mnt/freebsd/"bindist" > > I'm installing the 12/24/94 SNAP distribution. > > What am i doing wrong? Nothing. I screwed it up and have subsequently fixed it. Either wait for my next snapshot or use the latest floppies from the 2.0R distribution. Sorry 'bout that! Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 02:30:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA14311 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:30:41 -0800 Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA14304 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:30:39 -0800 Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.8/1.63) id LAA28619; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:30:19 +0100 From: wjw@iaehv.IAEhv.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) Message-Id: <199501031030.LAA28619@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Subject: remote install from an OS/2 machine with CD To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:30:19 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 969 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hoi, I've run into the following problems when trying to install 2.0 from CD where this CD is in my OS/2 machine. I have a spare machine which I'd like to use for FreeBSD. It contains regular std-IO and a wd8003 connected to my home-ethernet. The problems are that when trying to mount the remote CD I try to mount the OS\2 h:\ drive. It used to be possible bij typing mount -t nfs wjw:h:\\ /mnt [ where wjw is my OS/2 box, and it is in the /etc/hosts file ] The error returned is: 'Address already in use' Then I'm trying to use ftp for the install, and it turns out that unless the passive mode is toggled in ncftp nothing can be ls/dir-ed. Doing it manually in debugging mode reveils that ncftp and the OS/2 ftpd can not exchanged directory data because the data connection wasn't opened. Are there any means of circumventing either of the problems? Either by typing another mounting command, or putting ncftp automatically in the correct mode. Thanx WjW From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 03:07:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA15012 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 03:07:01 -0800 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA15004 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 03:07:00 -0800 Received: from starkhome.UUCP (root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id GAA04984 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:04:14 -0500 Received: by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/1.34) id FAA02315; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:18:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:18:23 -0500 From: starkhome!gene@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark) Message-Id: <199501031018.FAA02315@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: Sherman F Mui Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Sherman F Mui's message of Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:40:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: floppy tape backup, how? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I guess I'm supposed to use dump to do these backups, but shouldn't this >> thing work anyway? > >Hi, me again (yay), > >I tried dump, it paniced again: > >dump 0usfd 400 /dev/ft0 43690 /dev/sd0a > >And it locks up all of my input devices (mouse & keyboard), I didn't notice >that before. You aren't supposed to access /dev/ft0 directly, you are supposed to use the "ft" program. For example: dump 0usfd 400 - 43690 | ft You will find the man page for "ft" helpful. Also, you don't say what version of FreeBSD you are using, but in 2.0R there is a bug that will cause your system to crash if you try to open the ft device when it has not probed the device properly. Check to make sure that the ft device is probing when the system boots up, and don't use it if it doesn't. A patch for this problem has been installed in FreeBSD-current, but in -current the ft driver is disabled unless you put "flags 0x1" in the fdc kernel config line. This is supposedly to avoid spamming peoples floppy disk drives until somebody figures out why that is happening. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 03:07:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA15018 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 03:07:03 -0800 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA15010 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 03:07:01 -0800 Received: from starkhome.UUCP (root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id GAA04990 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:04:16 -0500 Received: by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/1.34) id FAA02321; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:19:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:19:18 -0500 From: starkhome!gene@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark) Message-Id: <199501031019.FAA02321@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: Sherman F Mui Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Sherman F Mui's message of Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:40:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: floppy tape backup, how? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I guess I'm supposed to use dump to do these backups, but shouldn't this >> thing work anyway? > >Hi, me again (yay), > >I tried dump, it paniced again: > >dump 0usfd 400 /dev/ft0 43690 /dev/sd0a > >And it locks up all of my input devices (mouse & keyboard), I didn't notice >that before. Oh, by the way, I am using "ft" happily with a Colorado 250MB drive. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 04:16:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA16254 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:16:53 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16248 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:16:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA10231; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:16:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jeff Mitchell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Jan 95 23:09:21 EST." Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 04:16:30 -0800 Message-ID: <10230.789135390@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, you could try it and get back to us! :-) Jordan > I know G++ is still somewhat unreliable and all.. but I'm on > 1.1.5 or some such older FreeBSD (cause I'm doing development work and > don't have much time to go reinstalling the OS and having it flaky for > awhile till I get it all set right :) .. I've got gdb up to 4.11 which > seams tolerable enough.. I need to do a bit of c++.. gcc 2.4.5 is bad for > this.. I've got the sources for 2.6.3 - will it compile out of the box? > And howabout the libg++ sources? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 04:17:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA16271 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:17:21 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16265 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:17:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA10208; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:14:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "M.C Wong" cc: tpr@picspc01.pics.com (Terry Rossi), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 13:58:01 EDT." <199501030259.AA198261971@hp.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 04:14:16 -0800 Message-ID: <10207.789135256@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Questions like these turn up VERY often (myself too), and I start thinking > that do we need something similar to Linux HOWTO doc ? In fact the HOWTO > doc on printing can be used by FreeBSD users, as they are BSD lpr stuff, Hey, if you want to write a HowTo on printing for FreeBSD (or what we simply call a FAQ around here), I certainly won't stand in your way! :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 04:26:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA16448 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:26:21 -0800 Received: from chsun.eunet.ch (chsun.eunet.ch [146.228.10.15]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16442 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:26:13 -0800 Received: from eclink by chsun.eunet.ch (8.6.4/1.34) id NAA10096; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:24:18 +0100 Received: from bigears by eclink with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #52) id m0rP7ny-000ZKFC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 12:53 MET Received: by bigears.UUCP (UUPC/extended 1.11x); Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:44:17 CET Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:44:15 CET From: "Rod Johnson" Message-ID: <2f0446f1.bigears@bigears.UUCP> Reply-To: "Rod Johnson" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Adaptec 2940 support Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have just received the FreeBSD 2.0 CDROM from Walnut Creek. I would like to run it on a TMC PCI54PV combination BCI/VLBus motherboard (yes, I know, but it seemed like a good idea at the time :-( ) with a P90 processor and Adaptec SCSI 2490 controller. Do you know if FreeBSD 2.0 should run on this setup out of the box, as it were? If not, is an add-on driver available that I can easily access. Many thanks in advance, and congratulations on your achievement in getting bsd at last to the masses. Rod Johnson -- Rod Johnson Fax: +41 91 733561 (8:00 - 20:00 GMT) rod@eclink.ch or johnson@dial.eunet.ch Compuserve: 100073,440 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 04:51:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA16707 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:51:21 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA16701 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:51:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA10458; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:50:26 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: wjw@iaehv.iaehv.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: remote install from an OS/2 machine with CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 11:30:19 +0100." <199501031030.LAA28619@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 04:50:26 -0800 Message-ID: <10457.789137426@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The problems are that when trying to mount the remote CD I try to > mount the OS\2 h:\ drive. It used to be possible bij typing > mount -t nfs wjw:h:\\ /mnt > [ where wjw is my OS/2 box, and it is in the /etc/hosts file ] > > The error returned is: 'Address already in use' The error message is actually incorrect. What it's trying to say, and SHOULD be saying, is, "Permission denied". Check the BSD box's credentials on the OS/2 box. Perhaps OS/2 is listening on a privileged port? -o resv would fix that.. > Then I'm trying to use ftp for the install, and it turns out that unless > the passive mode is toggled in ncftp nothing can be ls/dir-ed. > Doing it manually in debugging mode reveils that ncftp and the OS/2 ftpd > can not exchanged directory data because the data connection wasn't opened. The old version of ncftp doesn't handle automatic selection of passive mode. The current one supposedly does. I can't promise, but I hope that it'll be the system ncftp for 2.1. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:03:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA16864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:03:58 -0800 Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA16858 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:03:56 -0800 Received: by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29345; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:01:36 +0000 From: neil@dcs.kcl.ac.uk (Neil Faulks) Message-Id: <9501031301.AA29345@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> Subject: MFM drives on 2nd Controller. To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (bsd) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:01:36 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 307 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an MFM disk controller that can be set to the secondary port addresses and (with the aid of a small piece of alu foil) to IRQ15. The controller has no BIOS. How can I tell FreeBSD 2.0 the geometry of the disks on this controller? I am stumped --- is it possible? -- Neil Faulks neil@dcs.kcl.ac.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:06:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA16897 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:06:46 -0800 Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA16891 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:06:37 -0800 Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.8/1.63) id OAA13048; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:06:05 +0101 From: wjw@iaehv.IAEhv.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) Message-Id: <199501031305.OAA13048@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Subject: Re: remote install from an OS/2 machine with CD To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:06:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <10457.789137426@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 3, 95 04:50:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1527 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk You ( Jordan K. Hubbard ) write: => => > The problems are that when trying to mount the remote CD I try to => > mount the OS\2 h:\ drive. It used to be possible bij typing => > mount -t nfs wjw:h:\\ /mnt => > [ where wjw is my OS/2 box, and it is in the /etc/hosts file ] => > => > The error returned is: 'Address already in use' => => The error message is actually incorrect. What it's trying to say, and => SHOULD be saying, is, "Permission denied". Check the BSD box's => credentials on the OS/2 box. Perhaps OS/2 is listening on a => privileged port? -o resv would fix that.. That's how I interpreted it :-) Funny part is, that FreeBSD 1.1 did do the job. But I'll try and see what ports we're talking here. The BSD box is in the exports file. => > Then I'm trying to use ftp for the install, and it turns out that unless => > the passive mode is toggled in ncftp nothing can be ls/dir-ed. => > Doing it manually in debugging mode reveils that ncftp and the OS/2 ftpd => > can not exchanged directory data because the data connection wasn't opened. => => The old version of ncftp doesn't handle automatic selection of passive => mode. The current one supposedly does. I can't promise, but I hope => that it'll be the system ncftp for 2.1. Now what file, with what contents do I drop in a basic installed system to ahve ncftp switch mode. (I'll just do the ESC ESC trick and reboot) I tried reading the manual, but didn't get it to work. :-( [Which is mostly my ignorance, I'm shure] WjW From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:09:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA16927 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:09:17 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA16921 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:09:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA10598; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:08:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: wjw@iaehv.iaehv.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: remote install from an OS/2 machine with CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 14:06:04 +0100." <199501031305.OAA13048@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 05:08:55 -0800 Message-ID: <10597.789138535@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > That's how I interpreted it :-) Funny part is, that FreeBSD 1.1 did do > the job. But I'll try and see what ports we're talking here. 1.1 used to talk on a different port by default. > Now what file, with what contents do I drop in a basic installed system > to ahve ncftp switch mode. (I'll just do the ESC ESC trick and reboot) > I tried reading the manual, but didn't get it to work. :-( > [Which is mostly my ignorance, I'm shure] Type ESC-ESC after you've installed the second floppy and are booted off the hard disk. Do this after everything has come up and you're at the first screen or, even better, to get all the way through the network setup part then hit ESC-ESC and type `ftp ...' manually. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:56:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA17377 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:56:45 -0800 Received: from PLUMCS11.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL (plumcs11.umcs.lublin.pl [192.147.37.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA17370 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:56:41 -0800 Received: from demeter.ipan.lublin.pl by PLUMCS11.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 03 Jan 95 14:55:05 CET Received: from DEMETER/MAILQUEUE by demeter.ipan.lublin.pl (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:58:43 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by DEMETER (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:58:34 GMT+1 From: "Janusz Kokot" Organization: IA PAN To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:58:25 Subject: Re: Need help with ftp installation Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <4521E8D12AD@demeter.ipan.lublin.pl> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to do an installation by ftping over ethernet and I am > stuck. When I start up ftp on the target machine I get a ftp > connection and login prompt from the host (a 2.0 machine), but as > soon as I type anything in, the link freezes up. I can ^Z out of this > and do it again and again with the same result. Telnet also hangs up. > In fact, the only thing that I have tried that works is ping, which > seems to work fine in both directions. I had near the same problem, after login in ftp I can make dir but cd and pwd hangs link. So I tried nfs instalation and it works fine. Janusz Kokot ---------------------------------------------------- Janusz Kokot Institute of Agrophysics, Polish Academy of Sciences E-Mail: jkokot@demeter.ipan.lublin From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:56:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA17384 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:56:48 -0800 Received: from mail1.bytex.network.com (mail1.bytex.network.com [129.191.225.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA17369 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:56:37 -0800 Received: from ws062 (ws062.bytex.network.com) by mail1.bytex.network.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14240; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:57:01 EST Received: from localhost by ws062 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08654; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:56:57 EST Message-Id: <9501031356.AA08654@ws062> To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Cc: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com, questions@freebsd.org, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Bus Mouse under FreeBSD 2.0 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 30 Dec 1994 11:52:06 EST." <199412301652.AA063226326@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 08:56:57 -0500 From: dusio Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean, Thanks for your concern and help in resolving my issue with the Microsoft BusMouse under XF. I rebuilt the kernel as you directed and all is well. Thanks Again, Joe Dusio (dusio@bytex.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 05:59:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA17424 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:59:45 -0800 Received: from PLUMCS11.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL (plumcs11.umcs.lublin.pl [192.147.37.100]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA17417 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:59:41 -0800 Received: from demeter.ipan.lublin.pl by PLUMCS11.UMCS.LUBLIN.PL (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 03 Jan 95 14:58:07 CET Received: from DEMETER/MAILQUEUE by demeter.ipan.lublin.pl (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:01:45 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by DEMETER (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:01:33 GMT+1 From: "Janusz Kokot" Organization: IA PAN To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:01:24 Subject: Gravis Ultra Soun Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <4522B4D4454@demeter.ipan.lublin.pl> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to patch GUS initialization in kernel (GUS is not well initialized during boot) , maybe somebody have information about GUS (registers etc) Janusz Kokot ---------------------------------------------------- Janusz Kokot Institute of Agrophysics, Polish Academy of Sciences E-Mail: jkokot@demeter.ipan.lublin From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 06:15:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA17867 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:15:16 -0800 Received: from styx.ibmoto.com (styx.ibmoto.com [129.38.252.14]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA17861; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:15:14 -0800 Received: from bartling.ibmoto.com (bartling.ibmoto.com [129.38.33.7]) by styx.ibmoto.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA27413; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:14:10 -0600 From: Steve Bartling Received: (bartling@localhost) by bartling.ibmoto.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA30025; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:14:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199501031414.IAA30025@bartling.ibmoto.com> Subject: Latest in my SLIP saga :-) To: bartling@ibmoto.com (Steve Bartling) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:14:10 -0600 (CST) Cc: davidg@Root.COM, bartling@ibmoto.com, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199412302239.QAA22769@bartling.ibmoto.com> from "Steve Bartling" at Dec 30, 94 04:39:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2395 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Latest copy of my start_slip script : #!/bin/csh # # script for starting SLIP connection using DELL UNIX and BOOTP protocol # #slattach -c -l -s 38400 /dev/cua00 slattach -c -h -s 38400 /dev/cua00 # configure initial SLIP link to the terminal server # HTP1 = 129.38.252.50 # HTP2 = 129.38.252.51 # I do not remember what 129.38.14.8 is supposed to represent # ifconfig sl0 inet 129.38.14.8 129.38.252.50 # # add domain name, and nameserver addresses to /etc/resolve.conf # in order to configure the nameservice # echo "domain ibmoto.com" > /etc/resolv.conf echo "nameserver 129.38.252.14" >> /etc/resolv.conf echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" >> /etc/resolv.conf # # add default route for all packets to HTP2 if dialing in 795-7555 # HTP1 = 129.38.252.50 # HTP2 = 129.38.252.51 # route add default 129.38.252.51 # # determine my dynamically allocated I.P. address using bootptest # ./bootptest > /tmp/bootp.out set my_addr = `grep "reply" /tmp/bootp.out | cut -f9 -d' ' | cut -c3-20` set server_addr = `grep "reply" /tmp/bootp.out | cut -f10 -d' ' | cut -c3-20` set gateway_addr = `grep "reply" /tmp/bootp.out | cut -f11 -d' ' | cut -c3-20` set hops = `grep "reply" /tmp/bootp.out | cut -f6 -d' ' | cut -c6-20` echo "my address = $my_addr" echo "server address = $server_addr" echo "gateway address = $gateway_addr" echo "# of hops = $hops" # # reconfigure sl0 using my dynamically allocated I.P. address # and the address of the terminal server ( HTP2 ) ifconfig sl0 inet $my_addr $server_addr exit This now works if I do the following after the above script is run : route delete default 129.38.252.51 followed by : route add default 129.38.252.51 After deleting then adding back the default route, I am able to achieve full functionality. After all of the above, netstat -r yields : reef# netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface default htp2.ibmoto.com UGS 5 353 sl0 localhost localhost UH 0 104 lo0 htp2.ibmoto.com htp2-4.ibmoto.com UH 1 0 sl0 htp2-4.ibmoto.co localhost UH 0 0 lo0 224 localhost US 0 0 lo0 Does this seem correct ? I am too green around the edges to find a problem all by myself :-) Feel free to request more info ... Thanks for your help. - Steve Bartling From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 07:00:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA18670 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:00:02 -0800 Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA18645 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:00:00 -0800 Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:59:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:59:37 -0600 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199501031459.AA25745@plains.NoDak.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: mitsumi and soundblaster Cc: questions@freebsd.org, spetry@unf6.cis.unf.edu Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk you are correct, the clone card has a built in mitsumi/sony interface. There are so many different soundblasters, I thought he had one with a mitsumi interface. I would venture to guess that putting the sound wire to a standard sound blaster and the data line to a seperate mitsumi card would work. the mitsumi card would issue the start/stop/seek as well as the ISO data commands, and the soundcard would handle the audio same as with the scsi. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 07:00:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA18663 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:00:01 -0800 Received: from cynjut.infonet.net (root@s069.infonet.net [167.142.100.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA18643 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:59:55 -0800 Received: (from burgess@localhost) by cynjut.infonet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA20000; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:57:55 -0600 From: Dave Burgess Message-Id: <199501031457.IAA20000@cynjut.infonet.net> Subject: Re: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0gi FAQ To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:57:54 -0600 (CST) Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, tpr@picspc01.pics.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10207.789135256@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 3, 95 04:14:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 757 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Questions like these turn up VERY often (myself too), and I start thinking > > that do we need something similar to Linux HOWTO doc ? In fact the HOWTO > > doc on printing can be used by FreeBSD users, as they are BSD lpr stuff, > > Hey, if you want to write a HowTo on printing for FreeBSD (or what we simply > call a FAQ around here), I certainly won't stand in your way! :) Or someone could write it for the entire *BSD family (this should be common) and send it to me to add to the section on printing questions. In fact, check the *BSD FAQ and see what needs to be changed in there and send me updates. I will *try* to get to them before I leave for school. Of course, I could just wait and stea^h^h^h^h^h borrow it for the *BSD FAQ later. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 07:09:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA18828 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:09:09 -0800 Received: from mail1.bytex.network.com (mail1.bytex.network.com [129.191.225.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA18821 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 07:09:02 -0800 Received: from ws062 (ws062.bytex.network.com) by mail1.bytex.network.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14282; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:09:06 EST Received: from localhost by ws062 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08785; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:09:05 EST Message-Id: <9501031509.AA08785@ws062> To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com Subject: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 10:09:05 -0500 From: dusio Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am thrilled with real "X" under FreeBSD on my home pc. Thanks to the questions@freebsd system I have resolved the problems with my Microsoft BusMouse. I am using X, but am unable to get a resolution higher than 640x480. This is a problem for me since an emacs session creates a window which is larger than my physical screen. I have put some serious effort into configuring my XF86Config file. I have read the "Hitchhiker guide to Xfree/X386 Video Timing" by Eric S. Raymond, and have performed the calculations therein. No Luck; I just am not doing something right. I need some help. [ I have also tried the xf86config program. But if I answer "yes" to "X -probeonly" within that program, my monitor flips on a LED which tells me that it cant sync with the incoming signal, AND the X server seems to hang (since typing "reboot" or "shutdown now" has no effect). So it creates ModeLines which do not use my dot clocks ] My site specific information is as follows: ----------------------------------------------------------- Section "Device" Identifier "Diamond Stealth Pro" VendorName "Diamond Computer Systems, Inc." BoardName "Stealth Pro" Chipset "s3_generic" Option "nomemaccess" # RamDac "SS2410 (9313A/T140x)" # Clockchip "DCS2824-0 (9313LAD) 14.318xtal" # Chipset "S3 P86c928 1XP1-001 93295 DB 9318095 Korea" VideoRam 2048 Clocks 19.9 22.3 24.8 25.0 28.1 31.3 Clocks 32.2 35.7 35.9 37.0 39.8 Clocks 39.7 44.6 49.6 49.9 56.2 62.6 Clocks 64.4 71.4 71.8 73.9 79.6 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "MAG MX15F" VendorName "MAG" ModelName "MX15F" Bandwidth 100 HorizSync 30-64 VertRefresh 50-120 # This monitor supports 72hz refresh and is NI # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 EndSection ------------------------------------------------------- The two modes listed above work. But I am unable to scale them up to 1024X768 (or 800x600 or 1280x1024). Could it be that I need more than 32 ticks of guard time? Could it be that 3.8us is too little time to stabilize the beam? Could it be that 150us is too little time for a vertical refresh? Could it be that I did the math wrong? I think that I've come close, but I would really appreciate the answers (or advice) from someone who has lived through this configuration process. Thank You in Advance Joe Dusio (dusio@bytex.network.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 08:21:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA21037 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:21:59 -0800 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA21031 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:21:57 -0800 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26947; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:21:26 GMT Received: from woody.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.14/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.14)) id AA080710079; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:21:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:21:19 -0500 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <199501031621.AA080710079@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by woody.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.14/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.14)) id AA089690077; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:21:17 -0700 To: dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com Cc: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com, questions@freebsd.org, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com In-Reply-To: <9501031356.AA08654@ws062> (message from dusio on Tue, 03 Jan 1995 08:56:57 -0500) Subject: Re: Microsoft Bus Mouse under FreeBSD 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk That's great. Happy BSD'ing. --k From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 08:34:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA21113 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:34:38 -0800 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (root@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA21107 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:34:36 -0800 From: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu Received: from spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.9/4.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:34:16 -0500 Received: by spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) id ; Tue, 3 Jan 95 11:33:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9501031633.AA06600@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: Re: floppy tape backup, how? To: starkhome!gene@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 11:33:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: sparta.sjsu.edu!smui@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501031019.FAA02321@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> from "Gene Stark" at Jan 3, 95 05:19:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 276 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk } } Oh, by the way, I am using "ft" happily with a Colorado 250MB drive. } } - Gene Stark } Hiya, I am, too, except I can't use dump on wd1h, only wd1a. -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 09:27:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA21831 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:27:12 -0800 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21825 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:27:10 -0800 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27766; Tue, 3 Jan 95 11:24:08 -0600 Received: from woody.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.14/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.14)) id AA097663841; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:24:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:24:01 -0500 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <199501031724.AA097663841@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by woody.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.14/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.14)) id AA090303824; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:23:44 -0700 To: burgess@s069.infonet.net Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, tpr@picspc01.pics.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501031457.IAA20000@cynjut.infonet.net> (message from Dave Burgess on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:57:54 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0gi FAQ Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Burgess writes: Dave> Or someone could write it for the entire *BSD family (this Dave> should be common) and send it to me to add to the section on Dave> printing questions. I'll write it. Who'll provide me with 386BSD and NetBSD machines? :-) --k From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 09:30:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA21862 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:30:14 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21856; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:30:12 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA04465; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:23:45 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501031723.AA04465@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:23:44 MST Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501030348.OAA25660@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jan 3, 95 02:48:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> >POSIX leaves a loophole, allowing read-only media to ignore the > >> >update requirements -- so you can be technically compliant if you > >> >mount the disk read-only. Very useful. 8-). > >> > >> Pretending that directories were modified at the current time breaks > >> even this :-). > > >Actually, no it doesn't. > > >POSIX doesn't require the information be accurate. > > >POSIX only required that the information be updated in certain > >circumstances. > > 2.3.5 ... "Updates are not done on files on read only file systems." > > Do you think this is badly worded enough to be optional? (It should say > "shall not be done".) Do you think file times are allowed to changed if > they haven't been updated? I couldn't find anything saying that. I > wouldn't want to use an implementation that changed them. I don't think it is optional, but one can argue that directories are not files, in which case it's non-optional for files but implementation defined for directories. I think that, in particular was worded badly enough to include VMS 5.x and above as conforming (in VMS a directory *isn't* a file). There's nothing saying that they "shall not be marked for update except...", so I think that randomly updating the time is acceptable (if in clear violation of the rule of least astonishment) and within the bounds of a conforming file system. The question is not whether the behaviour is allowed, but whether it is specifically disallowed. I probably wouldn't want to use an FS that stretched all of the semantic bounds it could possibly stretch (although it might be fun to write one for the hell of it 8^). As an editorial comment on the standard, if nothing else). I personally used the non-file directory interpretation to implement a promiscuous lookup mechanism. Because it used ioctl's, it did not fall under the requirements of the readdir interface, even though it returned additional per file meta data as well as ordering in a directory along with the entries. A nice loophole that saved me a great deal of overhead in time stamp updating (about 20%, as a matter of fact) and halved the number of system calls I had to make (combined lookup and stat). I have an 'ls' and a 'find' that both go about 220% the speed of the default implementations. 8-). Actually, you'd want to optionally return the stat information for a file on nearly any directory operation... stat on lookup, stat on create, stat on open, etc. I'll probably play around with it, since POSIX is an API specification, it's perfectly reasonable to implement it in the library (yet another loophole, again probably for VMS). > >Directories, on the other hand, do not even need to be considered as files > >at all... the update semantics are based on the opendir/readdir. The > > They do for creat() etc. Well, yes, for creat(), but not for traversal. I'd argue in favor of exempting stat, as well, although that would hardly result in a useful implementation. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 10:06:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA22321 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:06:52 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA22315 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:06:50 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05134; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:57:55 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501031757.AA05134@cs.weber.edu> Subject: PRINTING: Who wants to do it right? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:57:55 MST Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, tpr@picspc01.pics.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10207.789135256@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 3, 95 04:14:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seems there have been a lot of questions on printing lately. Printing is like the weather; everyone complains, but no one does anything about it. I don't know of one system that has what I would call "a good print system". The closest thing is the Palladium code out of project Athena, which is currently undergoing POSIX standardization, and even that's broken, since it doesn't standardize and then rely on a more generic queueing mechanism. Anyone want to put together a generic queue management system (maybe even ala VMS)? And then cram Palladium on top of it? The benefit will be honest-to-God print API's usable by programs, and a soloution to the input filtering/output filtering problem. Alternative suggestions are welcome... Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 10:07:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA22333 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:07:16 -0800 Received: from balboa.eng.uci.edu (balboa.eng.uci.edu [128.200.61.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA22327; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:07:15 -0800 Received: by balboa.eng.uci.edu id AA18483 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:06:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Stanley K. Cheong" Reply-To: "Stanley K. Cheong" Subject: problem with internal modem To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hardware Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am running FreeBSD 2.0R on a Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Initially, I was having problem with the kernel not recognizing my internal modem, a Gateway 2000 Telepath I on COM 1. Daniel Ortmann provided me with a fix in sio.c. By putting printf("") statements after the two DELAY statements in sioprobe, I was able to build a kernel that recognizes sio0 during bootup. However, I am still unable to use kermit or minicom 1.60 to access the modem. I do have a device entry called /dev/cua00 (an a link from /dev/modem). Anyone knows what I can try next? Anyone else using this modem has hints or ideas? I would really like to get the modem working so I can try SLIP or PPP. Thanx in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stanley K. Cheong email : scheong@ece.uci.edu work phone: (714) 707-2389 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 10:15:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA22529 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:15:58 -0800 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA22518; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:15:51 -0800 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id FAA10158; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:11:29 +1100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:11:29 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199501031811.FAA10158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, terry@cs.weber.edu Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? Cc: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> 2.3.5 ... "Updates are not done on files on read only file systems." >> >> Do you think this is badly worded enough to be optional? (It should say >> "shall not be done".) Do you think file times are allowed to changed if >> they haven't been updated? I couldn't find anything saying that. I >> wouldn't want to use an implementation that changed them. >I don't think it is optional, but one can argue that directories are >not files, in which case it's non-optional for files but implementation >defined for directories. If they are not files then it would be hard to read the timestamps on them set by creat() etc. Perhaps they only have to be files on writable file systems :-). >I personally used the non-file directory interpretation to implement >a promiscuous lookup mechanism. Because it used ioctl's, it did not >fall under the requirements of the readdir interface, even though it >returned additional per file meta data as well as ordering in a >directory along with the entries. A nice loophole that saved me a >great deal of overhead in time stamp updating (about 20%, as a matter >of fact) and halved the number of system calls I had to make (combined >lookup and stat). I have an 'ls' and a 'find' that both go about 220% >the speed of the default implementations. 8-). I think this problem should be handled by caching the access time stamps or even by storing them outside of inodes. The timestamps for all directories can be cached in a tiny amount of memory on most systems. (E.g., my 426MB usr partition has only 1932 directories so the access times could be cached in only 8K or 16K.) This memory could be written to disk very rarely (e.g., only when the fs is unmounted. POSIX doesn't require timestamps to be preserved if the system panics ;-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 12:12:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA26659 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:12:08 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA26641; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:11:56 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06106; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:05:53 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501032005.AA06106@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: problem with internal modem To: scheong@ece.uci.edu Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:05:52 MST Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stanley K. Cheong" at Jan 3, 95 10:06:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am running FreeBSD 2.0R on a Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Initially, I was > having problem with the kernel not recognizing my internal modem, a > Gateway 2000 Telepath I on COM 1. > > Daniel Ortmann provided me with a fix in sio.c. By putting printf("") > statements after the two DELAY statements in sioprobe, I was able to > build a kernel that recognizes sio0 during bootup. However, I am still > unable to use kermit or minicom 1.60 to access the modem. I do have a > device entry called /dev/cua00 (an a link from /dev/modem). This is clearly a timing problem. The printf calls are equivalent to a larger delay in both locations. I would suggest upping the delay in both places. It seems to me that this could be symptomatic of slow inb/outb for this particular device, in which case, the probe is not the only place you will need to up the delays to make it actually work. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 12:41:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA27215 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:41:54 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA27209; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:41:52 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06262; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:35:25 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501032035.AA06262@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:35:25 MST Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501031811.FAA10158@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jan 4, 95 05:11:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >I don't think it is optional, but one can argue that directories are > >not files, in which case it's non-optional for files but implementation > >defined for directories. > > If they are not files then it would be hard to read the timestamps on > them set by creat() etc. Perhaps they only have to be files on > writable file systems :-). 8-). ...Naw, the VMS guys would never go for it. > >I personally used the non-file directory interpretation to implement > >a promiscuous lookup mechanism. Because it used ioctl's, it did not > >fall under the requirements of the readdir interface, even though it > >returned additional per file meta data as well as ordering in a > >directory along with the entries. A nice loophole that saved me a > >great deal of overhead in time stamp updating (about 20%, as a matter > >of fact) and halved the number of system calls I had to make (combined > >lookup and stat). I have an 'ls' and a 'find' that both go about 220% > >the speed of the default implementations. 8-). > > I think this problem should be handled by caching the access time stamps > or even by storing them outside of inodes. The timestamps for all > directories can be cached in a tiny amount of memory on most systems. > (E.g., my 426MB usr partition has only 1932 directories so the access > times could be cached in only 8K or 16K.) This memory could be written > to disk very rarely (e.g., only when the fs is unmounted. POSIX doesn't > require timestamps to be preserved if the system panics ;-). This is somewhat of a non-sequitor. Typically "marked for update" is a euphamism for blowing the date information in the in core inode, then marking the inode as dirty meta-data by setting a vnode flag. When one writes out the other meta-data for reasons of referential integrity, it would result in the dates being written out too, and would actually require more effort to not write them than to write them (but there is the "added cost" of unmarking the vnode flag -- a trivial cost compared to the actual write). So the least astonishing behaviour is also a side effect of the least expensive behaviour -- subsequent references to an in core inode will get the updated date information. One could argue that "a POSIX file system" is any file system that conforms to the POSIX interface. If so, it's up to the implementor to decide where to draw the line (the kernel VFS, the kernel vncalls, the user space system call, or the user space library). Conformance is very much in the eye of the beholder, as it were. My personal preference would be to draw the line as high as possible for some things, like the API, and as low as possible for others, like event related meta-data. There must be internal logging of certain types of events, with file system dependent callback for update, to correctly support POSIX semantics with the largest possible sharing of code. For instance, it's necessary to note all "shall mark for update" events as formal events within the file system, and seperate the event processing out to common code for all file systems. One could consider the problem of a "Linux UMSDOS" type file system, where the actual meta-data maintained by the 'UMSDOS' file system is in the form of a 'poop file' in an underlying 'MSDOS' file system, with the POSIX update semantics being pushed down from above until they hit a point where they are discarded (the terminal file system can't cope with the request) or they are preemptorily implemented (the UMSDOS layer implements the 'poop files' as 'MSDOS' filesystem files). With the advent of the "Boot FreeBSD from a DOS file" recently discussed on the lists, this is a necessary step toward having a non-destructive FreeBSD install on top of an existing DOS file system. Further, use of the boot from a post-DOS-boot perspective means that the DOS drivers in the config.sys file have already been loaded -- then FreeBSD is a single VM86() interface away from being able to use DOS loaded ASPI and network drivers, for instance. DOS really would be used most appropriately: as a boot loader. Meanwhile, the arguments to the open() routine don't make it clear that it can't be open(3) instead of open(2); arguing back to the last exchange, one could envision that all system calls dealing with file descriptors be generalized as a single multiplex entry point, and that they all return stat information if the stat return pointer is non-NULL, plus an argument structure -- this also neatly resolves the lseek/off_t problem, at the cost of immediate backward compatability, while guaranteeing subsequent backward compatability. Generalizing further, the stat information returned is actually returned in a file system independent format, so there is either a requirement that the underlying file systems understand this format, or a requirement of a recall through a different vncall vector to return the information and have a single routine understand the file system independence (much like one should implement the file system independent dirent layout for use by the system call [vncalls] layer and for use by NFS). This avoids the potentially-too-small-caller-supplied-return-buffer problems of the current NFS export handling of this information. Well, I got carried away again... 8-). Time to move off to the file system list? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 12:58:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA27594 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:58:08 -0800 Received: from spectre.uunet.ca (spectre.uunet.ca [142.77.1.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA27587 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:58:03 -0800 Received: from kate.ccohs.ca ([192.82.104.1]) by spectre.uunet.ca with SMTP id <34941>; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:57:34 -0500 Received: by kate.ccohs.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19761; Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:57:08 EST Message-Id: <9501032057.AA19761@kate.ccohs.ca> From: willie@kate.ccohs.ca (Willie Lyons) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:57:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do I remove myself from this mailing list? I have sent mail to questiosn-owner and listserv but have had no luck? help! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 13:50:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA29595 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:50:57 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA29589 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:50:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA11807; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:46:31 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Dave Burgess cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, tpr@picspc01.pics.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ljII Example Needed for 2.0gi FAQ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 08:57:54 CST." <199501031457.IAA20000@cynjut.infonet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 13:46:30 -0800 Message-ID: <11806.789169590@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Or someone could write it for the entire *BSD family (this should be > common) and send it to me to add to the section on printing questions. > In fact, check the *BSD FAQ and see what needs to be changed in there > and send me updates. I will *try* to get to them before I leave for > school. Well, I support the *BSD FAQ in spirit, but in body I think it's getting just a little too bloated to be useful! :-( I rarely ftp it simply due to its sheer size and the fact that I know I'm going to have to wade through reams of stuff, much of it still there for hysterical raisins only, and the idea of a small collection of files with very descriptive names (slip-setup.FAQ, printer-setup.FAQ, etc) and some sort of overall meta-FAQ written in SGML with pointers to these guys strikes me as the way forward. That's what we're currently working out, anyway! Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 14:00:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA29895 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:00:07 -0800 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29889 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:00:03 -0800 Received: from periodic.eng.umd.edu (periodic.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.127]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA11977; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:41:53 -0500 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by periodic.eng.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) id QAA24752; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:41:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:41:49 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: dusio cc: questions@freebsd.org, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree In-Reply-To: <9501031509.AA08785@ws062> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, dusio wrote: Are you aware of mode switching? Try control-alt-keypad/plus or keypad/minus. > > I am thrilled with real "X" under FreeBSD on my home pc. > Thanks to the questions@freebsd system I have resolved the > problems with my Microsoft BusMouse. I am using X, but am > unable to get a resolution higher than 640x480. This is > a problem for me since an emacs session creates a window > which is larger than my physical screen. > > I have put some serious effort into configuring my > XF86Config file. I have read the "Hitchhiker guide to > Xfree/X386 Video Timing" by Eric S. Raymond, and have > performed the calculations therein. No Luck; I just > am not doing something right. I need some help. > > [ I have also tried the xf86config program. But if I > answer "yes" to "X -probeonly" within that program, my > monitor flips on a LED which tells me that it cant sync > with the incoming signal, AND the X server seems to hang > (since typing "reboot" or "shutdown now" has no effect). > So it creates ModeLines which do not use my dot clocks ] > > My site specific information is as follows: > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Section "Device" > Identifier "Diamond Stealth Pro" > VendorName "Diamond Computer Systems, Inc." > BoardName "Stealth Pro" > Chipset "s3_generic" > Option "nomemaccess" > # RamDac "SS2410 (9313A/T140x)" > # Clockchip "DCS2824-0 (9313LAD) 14.318xtal" > # Chipset "S3 P86c928 1XP1-001 93295 DB 9318095 Korea" > VideoRam 2048 > Clocks 19.9 22.3 24.8 25.0 28.1 31.3 > Clocks 32.2 35.7 35.9 37.0 39.8 > Clocks 39.7 44.6 49.6 49.9 56.2 62.6 > Clocks 64.4 71.4 71.8 73.9 79.6 > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > > Identifier "MAG MX15F" > VendorName "MAG" > ModelName "MX15F" > Bandwidth 100 > HorizSync 30-64 > VertRefresh 50-120 > # This monitor supports 72hz refresh and is NI > > # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync > Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 > # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync > Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 > EndSection > ------------------------------------------------------- > > The two modes listed above work. But I am unable to scale > them up to 1024X768 (or 800x600 or 1280x1024). > > Could it be that I need more than 32 ticks of guard time? > Could it be that 3.8us is too little time to stabilize the > beam? > Could it be that 150us is too little time for a vertical > refresh? > Could it be that I did the math wrong? > > > I think that I've come close, but I would really appreciate > the answers (or advice) from someone who has lived through > this configuration process. > > Thank You in Advance > Joe Dusio (dusio@bytex.network.com) > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 14:01:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA29942 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:01:11 -0800 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29933; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:01:01 -0800 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA13647; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:57:02 +1100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:57:02 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199501032157.IAA13647@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, terry@cs.weber.edu Subject: Re: Why does ls report wrong creation date on symlinks? Cc: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > [slowness of find and ls caused by having to update directory access times] >> I think this problem should be handled by caching the access time stamps >> or even by storing them outside of inodes. The timestamps for all >> directories can be cached in a tiny amount of memory on most systems. >> (E.g., my 426MB usr partition has only 1932 directories so the access >> times could be cached in only 8K or 16K.) This memory could be written >> to disk very rarely (e.g., only when the fs is unmounted. POSIX doesn't >> require timestamps to be preserved if the system panics ;-). >This is somewhat of a non-sequitor. Typically "marked for update" is >a euphamism for blowing the date information in the in core inode, then >marking the inode as dirty meta-data by setting a vnode flag. In Minix, reading the current time is very inefficient (it requires sending a message to another task and waiting for the reply), so timestamping is implemented by just setting a vnode flag for the "marking" step and not updating the file times until a close(), stat(), fstat() or sync(). This method isn't typical but it is exactly what is described in POSIX 2.3.5. >... >Well, I got carried away again... 8-). Time to move off to the file >system list? Yes. I almost moved it a couple of replies ago. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 14:12:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA00299 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:12:56 -0800 Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00289 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:12:54 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id OAA26361; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:11:56 -0800 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by dtr.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA01954; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:09:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199501022109.NAA01954@dtr.com> Subject: Re: freebsd 2.0 To: spokrand@appliedvoice.com (Steven Lee Pokrandt) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 13:09:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501031520.AA01489@mail.eskimo.com> from "Steven Lee Pokrandt" at Jan 3, 95 07:19:53 am From: bmk@dtr.com Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 373 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > is there a known problm with the uucp software in the > 2.0 release? uucico will not execute! I use uucp under 2.0 over both dialup and TCP/IP. Try the following: /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico -x9 -S system and post the results. I'll warn you though, I don't use the Taylor config files, so I'm not sure how much help I can give you if it's in your configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:17:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA22696 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:17:46 -0800 Received: from domus.domus.com ([204.138.246.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA22690 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:17:41 -0800 Received: (from hellis@localhost) by domus.domus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA00206 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:16:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:16:38 -0500 From: "Hugh S. Ellis" Message-Id: <199501040116.UAA00206@domus.domus.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for Non-SCSI Tape devices. Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am running version 1.1.5.1 on a '386 and it is working well. I don't have a SCSI controller in the system, and hope not to have to buy one. I would like suggestions as to which non-SCSI (read cheap) tape backup unit I should buy. Colorado 250s are cheap and easy to find around here. I can also get Conners and Irwins. Any ones which are better than others for FreeBSD? Thanks, Hugh Ellis hellis@domus.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:19:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA22716 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:19:01 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA22710 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:19:00 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA13188; Tue, 3 Jan 95 17:17:41 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: (solution) Re: floppy tape backup, how? To: mrm@sceard.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9501022204.AA11584@Sceard.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 2 Jan 1995 mrm@Sceard.COM wrote: > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 > > even though you only have one floppy drive. Then man ft to find out how > to use the floppy tape. Great! Thanks a lot! It works now... And I Conner Tape-Stor 420mb's work well (incase someone's keeping a list of floppy based tape backups that are known to work with FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 and probably 2.0) Thanks for everyone's help! Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:33:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA27095 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:33:43 -0800 Received: from risc.austin.ibm.com (risc.austin.ibm.com [129.35.96.196]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA27089 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:33:41 -0800 Received: by risc.austin.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42263; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:33:20 -0600 From: lets@risc.austin.ibm.com (Richard Letsinger) Message-Id: <9501040133.AA42263@risc.austin.ibm.com> Subject: FreeBSD Installation Difficulties To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Org) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:33:20 (CST) Cc: lets@lets.austin.ibm.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 7247 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just got FreeBSD 2.0 on CDROM from Walnut Creek and spent most of New Year's Day trying to install it. I ran into some problems and have a couple of questions. My machine is a 486DX2/66 with 16MB, a 1.44MB diskette drive, and 2 hard disks, a WD 2340 and a WD 2540. It is a clone that IBM manufactures for resale by another company. It has an AT bus, an SVGA display (CTX), and a CD drive that appears to me to be generic (if there is such a thing). The CD drive has its own card, that is it's not SCSI and it's not plugged into my Sound Blaster 16 card. Hard disk 0 (325MB) has 2 partitions, a DOS primary of 200MB with IBM DOS 6.1 and a DOS extended partition of 124MB with OS/2 WARP. DOS is on drive C: and OS/2 is on drive D:. There's also a 1MB thing (partition?) that has the OS/2 boot manager that allows me to select DOS or OS/2. Hard disk 1 (516MB) also has 2 partitions, the first of which is a DOS extended partition of 153MB which is drive letter E:. The 2 partitions on disk 0 and this first one on disk 1 were made with the DOS FDISK. The second partition on disk 1 is a FreeBSD slice made with the FreeBSD Fdisk. The FreeBSD slice has 350MB which brings it up to the 1024 (sector/cylinder?) limit. The remaining 12MB are unused as I believe they must be. My first concern after reading the installation guide, release note, etc. was that I was not going to be able to install FreeBSD from the Walnut Creek CD because my CD drive is probably not supported by FreeBSD. Obviously I could get started, because the top level of the CD is DOS format, but it looked to me like once the DOS portion of the installation was done and I booted from FreeBSD to do the rest of the installation, I would run into this CD drive support problem. However, I didn't get far enough to find out so let me ask. - Assuming that my CD drive is not Mitsumi (and not SCSI), is it hopeless to try to install FreeBSD from the Walnut Creek CD? If so, can the files on the CD be copied to my empty DOS E: drive and install from E:? Other alternatives? As I say, I didn't get that far. I did successfully make the boot and cpio diskettes and boot from the boot floppy. In FreeBSD Disklabel, I Edited a 20MB root (partition a), a 40MB swap (b), a 200MB /usr (f), and a 90MB /usr/users (g). Partition c was the expected 350MB FreeBSD and d was the expected 516MB full disk (or vice versa). However the 153MB DOS slice was not at h, but rather at e. And, it didn't have a type of "MSDOS", but had "unused". - Why didn't my disk 1 153MB DOS slice show up at h with "MSDOS"? My guess on this is that only a primary DOS partition would come up at h with "MSDOS". Taking off on this notion, while I would like to be able to mount my DOS slice under FreeBSD, I don't want a second primary DOS partition at this stage. Making a a second primary DOS partition would move DOS drive letter D: from my OS/2 partition on disk 0 to the DOS partition on disk 1 and would change the OS/2 partition drive letter to E:. My drive letters are already hard-coded in many files and would be a pain to try to change. With regard to mounting DOS drives/partitions/slices: - If I keep my DOS partition on disk 1 as an extended DOS partition, will I be able to mount it under FreeBSD? If so, how? - What ever I do on disk 1, will I be able to mount either of the DOS partitions on disk 0 under FreeBSD? If so, how? So, I defined my FreeBSD partitions with Disklabel Edit and executed Write. Then I Assigned a to /, b to swap, f to /usr, and g to /usr/users. Assign would not allow me to Assign e to /dos. Then I Quit, Proceeded, and said yes to the install. A bunch of files were copied from the diskette to disk 1 and I was told to reboot from the hard disk. By the way, back in FreeBSD Fdisk, I did a Write MBR. Actually I did 2 of them, once, accidently, while looking at disk 0, and once, on purpose, while looking at disk 1. The hard disk reboot went well at first. My first prompt, from the boot manager was: F2 ... dos F3 ... OS2 F5 ... disk 2 Default: F? - Why does the boot manager call it disk 2 when unix calls it disk 1 (wd1)? It took a while to puzzle this out, but eventually I pushed F5 and got: F2 ... FreeBSD F5 ... disk 1 Default: F? I pushed F2. Here there was another stumbling block for me and it took some iterations with the documentation to realize that I needed to enter something because I was not booting from disk 0. When I typed the following (with little delay), things proceeded. hd(1,a)/kernel FreeBSD began to come up. It checked a slew of devices. I recognized my parallel port and my 2 hard disks and the data displayed for them seemed correct to me. Then the boot stopped with: panic: cannot mount root I've spent a good deal of today going through comp.os.386BSD.questions to see if anyone else has had this problem (or any of the others mentioned). The only thing I came across was someone who was booting from his second disk said he used: wd(1,a)/kernel - I got "hd" from the CD documentation, I think in the Trouble Shooting guide. Should I be using "wd" or was the appender to questions in error? - If "wd" isn't the answer, do you have any help for me on this problem? I'd also like to ask a few things about the boot manager. - Did I do any damage when I accidently did a Write MBR in FreeBSD Fdisk on disk 0? Was anything written anywhere by this? Maybe I was supposed to do a Write MBR on disk 0? The FreeBSD boot manager didn't go in the same place as the OS/2 boot manager I already had installed. I say this because if I press F3 (the OS/2 option) in FreeBSD boot manager, I get my familiar OS/2 boot manager screen and can boot either DOS or OS/2 just as I always did. - So, where was the FreeBSD boot manager put? On disk 0? On disk 1? Both? Not on the OS/2 boot manager (because it still runs). My guess on this is that there is a boot record (my term) at the beginning of (one or each) disk that sends the boot to code in a disk partition and that the FreeBSD boot manager is in the FreeBSD slice. Then the FreeBSD boot manager is able to branch to any other partition on any disk and it happens that the OS/2 boot manager is in it's own partition on disk 0. - Last, I saw in questions that someone said the FreeBSD boot manager can be manipulated with DOS FDISK using the /MBR option, but it wasn't clear to me what FDISK /MBR did. I'll read the DOS manual when I get home tonight, but can you tell me in case the manual is not clear with regard to non-DOS setups like mine? Thank you very much for taking the time to read (and answer?) these questions. I'd really like to get unix up on my system at home and, based on colleague recommendations, FreeBSD seemed to be the best way to go. Your help is very much appreciated. Richard Letsinger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Letsinger | Austin, TX 78758 | e-mail: lets@risc.austin.ibm.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Required disclaimer: This note is from me and is independent of IBM. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:45:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA27914 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:45:30 -0800 Received: from domus.domus.com ([204.138.246.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27852 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:45:25 -0800 Received: (from hellis@localhost) by domus.domus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA00314 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:44:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:44:23 -0500 From: "Hugh S. Ellis" Message-Id: <199501040144.UAA00314@domus.domus.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TCP/IP stack for PCs Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I will be using my FreeBSD system as a firewall through which my users will connect to the Internet. (Network's not connected yet since my firewall isn't quite ready :( While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD server? I have been told that there are some reasonable public domain TCP stacks for PCs running Windows. Any recommendations as to what I should be looking for? Also, if I can tune up my firewall, I would like to get them running X. Are there versions of X for MS-Windows out there? What is likely to be most compatible with my FreeBSD system? Thanks, Hugh Ellis Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:50:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA04886 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:50:36 -0800 Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04690 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:50:26 -0800 Received: from cais2.cais.com (cais2.cais.com [199.0.216.200]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA29485 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:49:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (cmcgee@localhost) by cais2.cais.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA14303; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:49:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:49:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Charles J. McGee" Subject: Installation of FreeBSD 2.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I downloaded the install document from your most recent SNAP update and that got me through the disk space allocation and assign portion of the installation process. When I try to (P)roceed past that point, the install bombs and then reboots. When I (P)roceed and type [Y]es ("go ahead and take my last chance") two screens/boxes flash up. I can't read the first one even though I have done this a number of times. (Hey! Those Pentiums may not be able to add, but they sure are fast at it!) The second box comes up with a title of FATAL and the message in the box is "Exec(/stand/newfs) failed, code=5888". Anyone know what a 5888 error is? For that matter, is there anywhere that all error codes are listed? I've tried multiple times, changing allocation sizes and assigning only '/' and 'swap', '/', 'swap' and 'usr', etc. The only difference, except for sizes, that I can see from the examples in the install document is that my DOS partition(s) always show up after the 'c' and 'd' slices (i.e. either 'e' {primary DOS} or 'e' and 'f' for {primary and secondary DOS partitions}). In the install document, the DOS partition is always at the end of the list in slice 'h'. Is that significant? What should I try next? As I said in my previous question, I am trying to install 2.0 on a Dell OmniPlex Pentium 90MHZ with 32MB RAM and one 2GB hard disk/ NEC 3X CRDROM drive on an Adaptec 1740 SCSI adapter. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 17:57:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA06575 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:57:46 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA06568 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:57:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA13390; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:57:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: lets@risc.austin.ibm.com (Richard Letsinger) cc: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Org), lets@lets.austin.ibm.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation Difficulties In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 19:33:20." <9501040133.AA42263@risc.austin.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 17:57:14 -0800 Message-ID: <13389.789184634@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > My first concern after reading the installation guide, release note, etc. > was that I was not going to be able to install FreeBSD from the Walnut Creek > CD because my CD drive is probably not supported by FreeBSD. Obviously I > could get started, because the top level of the CD is DOS format, but it You can copy the bindist directory to your C: drive (copy it whole, directory and all contents) and select `DOS' installation when asked. This will work fine, as long as you're using your C drive. > - Assuming that my CD drive is not Mitsumi (and not SCSI), is it hopeless to > try to install FreeBSD from the Walnut Creek CD? If so, can the files on > the CD be copied to my empty DOS E: drive and install from E:? Other > alternatives? Not hopeless at all - see above. > - Why didn't my disk 1 153MB DOS slice show up at h with "MSDOS"? Only primary DOS partitions are currently seen. > - If I keep my DOS partition on disk 1 as an extended DOS partition, will I > be able to mount it under FreeBSD? If so, how? You'll need to edit your disklabel and try to bump the starting location forward by secs/track number of blocks. This is kludge, but for now we don't have native support for DOS extended partitions, sorry! > The hard disk reboot went well at first. My first prompt, from the boot > manager was: > > F2 ... dos > F3 ... OS2 > F5 ... disk 2 > > Default: F? > > - Why does the boot manager call it disk 2 when unix calls it disk 1 (wd1)? F5 *leads* you to disk2. You're currently looking at disk1. If you hit F5, you'll see a boot menu item for disk1 leading back. > FreeBSD began to come up. It checked a slew of devices. I recognized my > parallel port and my 2 hard disks and the data displayed for them seemed > correct to me. Then the boot stopped with: > > panic: cannot mount root The doc is wrong. You'll have to type: wd(1,a)/kernel I need to change this, sorry. > I'd also like to ask a few things about the boot manager. > > - Did I do any damage when I accidently did a Write MBR in FreeBSD Fdisk on > disk 0? Was anything written anywhere by this? Maybe I was supposed to > do a Write MBR on disk 0? I don't think so. > The FreeBSD boot manager didn't go in the same place as the OS/2 boot > manager I already had installed. I say this because if I press F3 (the OS/2 This is correct. The boot manager is on disk0. OS/2's boot manager is on its OWN partition. It's done sort of different than most boot managers. > My guess on this is that there is a boot record (my term) at the beginning > of (one or each) disk that sends the boot to code in a disk partition and > that the FreeBSD boot manager is in the FreeBSD slice. Then the FreeBSD > boot manager is able to branch to any other partition on any disk and it > happens that the OS/2 boot manager is in it's own partition on disk 0. You need to read the Tutorial.. :-) It talks about all of this. > - Last, I saw in questions that someone said the FreeBSD boot manager can be > manipulated with DOS FDISK using the /MBR option, but it wasn't clear to > me what FDISK /MBR did. I'll read the DOS manual when I get home tonight, > but can you tell me in case the manual is not clear with regard to non-DOS > setups like mine? It reinitializes the MBR, nuking any boot manager resident there.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 18:00:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA06848 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:00:19 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA06840 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:00:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA13425; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 17:59:51 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Charles J. McGee" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation of FreeBSD 2.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 95 20:49:15 EST." Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 17:59:51 -0800 Message-ID: <13424.789184791@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > As I said in my previous question, I am trying to install 2.0 > on a Dell OmniPlex Pentium 90MHZ with 32MB RAM and one 2GB hard disk/ > NEC 3X CRDROM drive on an Adaptec 1740 SCSI adapter. I have a suspicion: Do you have a DOS partition on this disk? Can we see what cylinder translation method is being used with pfdisk? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 19:02:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id TAA13475 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:02:02 -0800 Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.168]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA13469 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:01:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.3/8.3) with ESMTP id TAA03490; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:01:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199501040301.TAA03490@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Reply-To: Dave Tweten To: dusio cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 19:01:32 -0800 From: Dave Tweten Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk dusio writes: >I am using X, but am >unable to get a resolution higher than 640x480. My battle was to get XFree86 working with a Mach32 video board and a Nanao T560i monitor, so what follows will necessarily be general. >I have read the "Hitchhiker guide to >Xfree/X386 Video Timing" by Eric S. Raymond, and have >performed the calculations therein. This is a good place to start. It's not the finish line (as Raymond points out). After you calculate the right dot-clock frequency and two groups of four magic numbers for a mode, card, and monitor, you then have to experiment with it to make it right. The Hitchhiker's Guide makes several conservative assumptions. In my experience, the result is stable, but usually not pretty. Once you have a stable display, you need to begin experimenting to get it centered, large enough, and in proportion (so you get square pixels -- and round circles). The last few pages of the Guide tell how to do this. You shorten or lengthen the blanking interval (difference between the first and last numbers in a four-number group) to expand or shrink the display in the coresponding dimension. You also adjust your dot clock frequency to scale the display area. To get the largest display area most easily, use the lowest dot clock frequency that produces an acceptably high refresh rate. Any refresh rate above 70 Hz should produce no observable flicker. What lower refresh rate may be acceptable is a matter of taste. You shift the sync pulse (which begins with the second number and ends with the third) to center the display in the coresponding dimension. Finally, you adjust the sync pulse widths and margins you started with, pushing the limits of the Guide's recommendations, to center and size the display. Experimentation is king. If the display won't sync up, or if "snow" starts to show up on the left edge of the display area, you have made the horizontal sync pulse too short or have put it too close to the end of the scan line. If the first few lines at the top of the display area are unevenly spaced, or if they are shifted to the right as compared to lines below, or if the first line doesn't start at the left edge, then you have made the vertical sync pulse too short or have put it too close to the end of the field. Every time you make a change, be sure that your new ModeLine still fits within your monitor's horizontal and vertical sync limits. Significantly out-of- limits sync rates can damage some monitors! I've excerpted the interesting parts of your XF86Config file, below: > Clocks 19.9 22.3 24.8 25.0 28.1 31.3 > Clocks 32.2 35.7 35.9 37.0 39.8 > Clocks 39.7 44.6 49.6 49.9 56.2 62.6 > Clocks 64.4 71.4 71.8 73.9 79.6 > HorizSync 30-64 > VertRefresh 50-120 >Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 >Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 I didn't include the Bandwidth specification because it doesn't seem to be used by drivers. That's not too surprising. An analog monitor can't tell what the dot clock rate is. Severe bandwidth abuse will only cause the display to appear fuzzy. So long as you respect your monitor's horizontal and vertical sync rate limits, no harm results. I am a little suspicious of your Clocks lines. Where did you get them? Twenty-two different clock rates seens peculiar. Selectable clock generators seem to offer a number of rates that is a power of two (probably because the rate is selected by putting a binary code into some field of an I/O register). I don't think continuous clock synthesizers use Clocks lines. It also strikes me as odd that you would build your ModeLines assuming a clock rate of 25.175 MHz when the nearest rate listed on any of your Clocks lines is 25.0 MHz. Why go out of your way to make the X server resolve the mismatch? >The two modes listed above work. But I am unable to scale >them up to 1024X768 (or 800x600 or 1280x1024). To scale up to 800x600, at the same vertical refresh rate, you will need a dot clock rate about 1.5 times the one you need for 640x480. Why? Neglecting the "pixels" devoted to horizontal and vertical blanking and sync pulses, there are about 1.5 times as many real viewable pixels to display. Assuming that X runs your 640x480 modes with the nearest Clocks value, 25 MHz, something like your 39.8 MHz clock should work at 800x600. To scale up to 1024x768 you will need a clock rate about 2.5 times the one you need for 640x480. Something near 64.4 MHz should work. You may not even want to use 1280x1024. Monitors are generally built with a 75% aspect ratio -- the viewing area is 3/4 as high as it is wide. If you want a full screen and square pixels, you want the vertical pixel count to be 75% of the horizontal count. That suggests 1280x960 instead of 1280x1024. To scale up to 1280x960 you will need a clock rate about 4 times the one you need for 640x480. That would be 100 MHz. Your Clocks lines indicate that your graphics board won't go that high. If you really want to do this you will have to use interlace. >Could it be that I need more than 32 ticks of guard time? I don't remember whether the Guide's definition of "guard time" is the portion of the horizontal blanking interval before or after the horizontal sync pulse. At 25 MHz, 32 ticks is 1.28 microseconds, which should be enough for either. >Could it be that 3.8us is too little time to stabilize the >beam? Unlikely. >Could it be that 150us is too little time for a vertical >refresh? Also unlikely. Failure of your monitor to sync up could be caused by any of these, but my first candidate for cause is your Clocks lines. I'd start by making very sure that they feature all the right values and in the right order. Order is important because drivers use a clock rate's position in the list to determine the code to write into the rate-selection port to get that clock rate. >Could it be that I did the math wrong? Possible. That's why I wrote an Excel spreadsheet from the information in the Guide, to calculate magic number sets for all my video board's clock frequencies at once. By the time I settled upon ModeLines for 1280x960, 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 for 8-bit pixels and for 16-bit Truecolor, I could calculate a new Modeline with a calculator in under a minute. That only happened after a lot of experimenting. The spreadsheet was invaluable to find starting points, and to help me understand the calculations. Writing your own spreadsheet is strongly recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 20:30:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA14428 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:30:14 -0800 Received: from icus.com (icus.com [198.252.182.104]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA14420 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:30:08 -0800 Received: (from Ufrshair@localhost) by icus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id WAA07168 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:31:09 -0600 Received: from localhost (uucp@localhost) by frshaire.wiz.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with UUCP id WAA23974 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:17:29 -0600 Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tenforwd.wiz.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA06880 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:10:46 -0600 From: Jeff Haynes Message-Id: <199501040410.WAA06880@tenforwd.wiz.com> Subject: makeing in .../ports/ To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions Mailing List) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:10:46 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 669 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am trying to build the audio package in the ports directory. I downloaded everything OK. I typed make in ports/audio/nas. Here' the output: ===> Configuring for nas-1.2p1 Removing disgusting malloc.h includes. Please wait.. Done. Ensuring Install uses the -c flag. Please wait.. Done. mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config "Makefile", line 186: Missing dependency operator ... Line 186 of the Makefile is: UnsharedLibReferences(XONLY,X11,$(XLIBSRC)) What's the deal here? I poked around in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config, but couldn't come to a logical conclusion. Please help. Thanks -- Jeff Haynes jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 20:32:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA14465 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:32:14 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA14459 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:32:12 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA22821; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:30:55 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: ft problems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, I thought I had everything working with my new tape drive. =) I was dead wrong. I get this error when the tape runs out of tape, ft0: unrecoverable write error on block 3200 I'm probably not doing something right here. I have a 200 meg tape. I tried 'dump usfd 400 - 43690 /dev/sd0a | ft' then 'dump ufd - /dev/sd0a | ft'. And my root partition is ~15mb. So I think maybe it's dump. I tried 'tar zvcf - /usr/local | ft "/usr/local save"', which is ~77 mb. (side note: I can't get tar's -X option to work right, it just refuses to exclude a directory I specify) Now what's wrong? Oh, and ft is going nuts and refuses to die. I have to reboot to make it stop winding and re-winding my stupid tape... Thanks in adv, Sherman (off to reboot) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 21:52:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA15098 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:52:51 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA15092 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:52:50 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA26908; Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:51:35 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:51:35 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: smail/taylor uucp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've got more problems I no one around me can figure out. Here's a problem with my outgoing mail headers. I never get bounces back to my system (corebreach). I know why, but I can't fix it! Return-Path: Received: by wile (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rOZQW-0005HiC; Sun, 1 Jan 95 15:11 PST Sender: Ucb (Sherman Mui - UUCP) The Return-Path is bogus, because the $sender thing in smail config is screwed. It gives me my UUCP login name (on the remote system). I'm not quite sure which side this problem is on. First it seems hard to believe my smail could do this fake $sender using a string from a remote system. Secondly it isn't likely that the remote system it to blame because another UUCP system had no problems (I say had because after he upgraded his Linux there are some problems. =) And I have the same config files... Thanks in adv, Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 22:16:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA15280 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:16:07 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15274 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:15:56 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA08269; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:11:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199501040611.XAA08269@clem.systemsix.com> To: dusio cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 23:11:25 -0700 From: Steve Passe Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Every time you make a change, be sure that your new ModeLine >> still fits within your monitor's horizontal and vertical sync >> limits. Significantly out-of-limits sync rates can damage >> some monitors! xf86-3.1 uses HorizSync and VertRefresh to protect the monitor. If the modeline math works out to be outside of the ranges declared in these two fields the server will drop them from usage during initialization. Notice of this goes to stdout (stderr?) on the tty that you invoke startx from. It happens pretty early in the sequence and usually will be scrolled off the screen by the time you leave X. To capture it do: % startx 1>/tmp/Xlog 2>&1 now from within an xterm you can: % more /tmp/Xlog to see what happened on the way up. Or try: % tail -f /tmp/Xlog to keep a running view of what happens often times when in the fine-tune stage you use numbers that push you just beyond the limit. eg, I was tuning numbers for a monitor with an Hsync range of 30-65 and came up with numbers that calculated to an actual value of 65.4 by the X server, which then promptly threw that line out. It took awhile to notice, once I did I bumped the high end of both ranges up a little to prevent this while fiddling with the numbers. Once I arrived at something I liked I reset the ranges. (use this method at your own risk!). >> I didn't include the Bandwidth specification because it doesn't >> seem to be used by drivers. as above, I believe the server would toss the line if the stated clock rate was above the Bandwidth spec, but I have never actually tried this to prove it. In anycase, the clocks listed in the sample XF86Config file are all below 100 and thus this is not an issue here. >> You may not even want to use 1280x1024. Monitors are generally >> built with a 75% aspect ratio -- the viewing area is 3/4 as high >> as it is wide. I agree, keep things 'square'. 1280x960 also gives room for a slightly higher refresh rate. unfortunately, none of the listed clocks would give acceptable refresh rates at 1280. 1280x1024 @60Hz requires approx a 110Mhz clock. the weak link here is the ramdac speed, check it carefully when buying a new board. 4 MB of memory might get you true color, but unless the ramdac is at least in the 110-120 Mhz range you will NOT be able to use that memory for the 1280 dot modes. (unless you really like the 'strobe effects') to get above 70Hz refresh you need around 135Mhz ramdac (and clock). note again that the driver will toss a line if it attempts use of a clock higher than the ramdac's rated speed, even if the clock is truly available on the board. I should state here that all of the above claims I make about the driver doing the 'good thing' with these numbers is based on my experience with the XF86_S3 driver, I do not know for a fact that this applies to all the XF86_xxx drivers, have not looked at the source to see at what level this is accomplished.... >> Clocks 19.9 22.3 24.8 25.0 28.1 31.3 >> Clocks 32.2 35.7 35.9 37.0 39.8 >> Clocks 39.7 44.6 49.6 49.9 56.2 62.6 >? Clocks 64.4 71.4 71.8 73.9 79.6 check out the file modeDB.txt, "MONITOR SECTION". at the head there is a list of VESA timings which will work as starting points for most any newer monitor. find the one with the highest clock rate provided by your board @ the desired resolution and start there. with the listed clocks I would pick "VESA 1024x768@70Hz" the ModeLine is: "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 (but change clock from 75 to 73.9) btw, these clocks look very fishy to me also! Steve Passe smp@csn.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 22:34:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA15598 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:34:46 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15592 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:34:42 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA28676; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:33:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:33:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199501040633.WAA28676@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199501040410.WAA06880@tenforwd.wiz.com> (message from Jeff Haynes on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:10:46 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: makeing in .../ports/ From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * I downloaded everything OK. I typed make in ports/audio/nas. * imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config * "Makefile", line 186: Missing dependency operator I'm not sure what your problem is, but at least it works here, on a stock 2.0R system with XFree86-3.1. ===> Extracting for nas-1.2p1 ===> Applying patches for nas-1.2p1 ===> Configuring for nas-1.2p1 Removing disgusting malloc.h includes. Please wait.. Done. Ensuring Install uses the -c flag. Please wait.. Done. imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config making Makefiles in include... making Makefiles in include/audio... .... I just pulled off audio/nas from ftp.freebsd.org, so that shouldn't be a problem. * Line 186 of the Makefile is: * UnsharedLibReferences(XONLY,X11,$(XLIBSRC)) * * What's the deal here? I poked around in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config, * but couldn't come to a logical conclusion. One thing I can tell you is that no way in hell should something like that remain in the Makefile, it is in Imakefile syntax. It's defined in Imake.rules. Can you find it in your config directory? Maybe you can send us a few lines around that one so we can figure out where it came from (I don't see UnsharedLibReferences in nas's Imakefile either). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 22:45:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA15792 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:45:23 -0800 Received: from eagle.ais.net (eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA15786 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:45:22 -0800 Received: by eagle.ais.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rPPSJ-0008blC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 00:44 CST Message-Id: Subject: I ftped, Now what? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:44:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Tim Sahouri" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 554 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello, First I wanna thank you for bringing FreeBSD to the world. I'm sure you get hundreds of emails so I'll try to make this short. I ftped everything under the 2.0-FreeBSD directory. I currently run SCO (sorry :) but would like to convert to FreeBSD. I have a 2GB SCSII DAT drive. I've read everything I could get my hands on. But I'm still not sure what to do next. I know I need to create the floppies, but what files/ directories do I move to the tape. And, wht do I use, tar or cpio? Please advice, and thanx in advance. Tim Sahouri From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 3 22:51:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id WAA15861 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:51:08 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15855 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:51:03 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA08409; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:51:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199501040651.XAA08409@clem.systemsix.com> To: Jeff Haynes cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions Mailing List), fbsd@clem.systemsix.com Subject: Re: makeing in .../ports/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 1995 22:10:46 CST." <199501040410.WAA06880@tenforwd.wiz.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 23:51:15 -0700 From: Steve Passe Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Line 186 of the Makefile is: >> UnsharedLibReferences(XONLY,X11,$(XLIBSRC)) This happened to me when I replaced X11R5 with X11R6 and moved Motif (ported to X11R5) to the new X11R6. The general scenerio is: UnsharedLibReferences() is defined in Imake.rules (in X11R6, I have no idea where it was defined in X11R5) the Imake.tmpl provided by Motif,X11R5: ... #include ... #include ... #include ... Project.tmpl invokes the UnsharedLibReferences() macro BEFORE it is defined by Motif.tmpl (and Imake.rules) In the generic X11R6 Imake.tmpl, Imake.rules is included around line 94, while Project.tmpl is included around 1020, ie, UnsharedLibReferences() is defined well b4 it is used. Thus when I installed Motif, it replaced the X11R6 Imake.tmpl with one which used the macro (in Project.tmpl) b4 it was defined (conditionally in both Motif.tmpl & Imake.rules). So, if your problem is from a X11R5 motif install, send me a request and I will send you my patches to Imake.tmpl & Motif.tmpl. Otherwise look for a similar situation, ie, any use of a config file that is nonstandard from the generic X11R6 provided ones. Steve Passe smp@csn.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 00:03:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA17120 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:03:06 -0800 Received: from feta.cisco.com (feta.cisco.com [171.69.1.158]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA17114 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:03:05 -0800 Received: from localhost.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by feta.cisco.com (8.6.8+c/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) with SMTP id AAA02771; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:01:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199501040801.AAA02771@feta.cisco.com> X-Authentication-Warning: feta.cisco.com: Host localhost.cisco.com didn't use HELO protocol To: JKOKOT@demeter.ipan.lublin.pl ("Janusz Kokot") Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gravis Ultra Soun In-Reply-To: JKOKOT@demeter.ipan.lublin.pl's message of 03 Jan 1995 15:01:24 PST Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 00:01:42 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to patch GUS initialization in kernel (GUS is not > well initialized during boot) , maybe somebody have information about GUS > (registers etc) > > Janusz Kokot You should try ftp://archive.epas.utoronto.ca/pub/pc/ultrasound and ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/msdos/ultrasound The code to initialize the GUS is -almost- correct, one known bug is that it is using the macro OUTB which does I/O to a non-gus address to slow things down after each out, and when you're programming the gus, it knocks it out of configuration mode when that happens. :-( I've had this on my list of things to work on for six months, but haven't had a chance to follow up on it. If you get it working, please let me know and I'll gladly fix the distribution. Paul From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 01:26:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA19978 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 01:26:06 -0800 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA19972 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 01:26:00 -0800 Received: from muxgw1.ms.philips.nl ([130.144.90.6]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950103) with SMTP id KAA24382 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:25:01 +0100 Received: by muxgw1.ms.philips.nl (5.57/Ultrix2.4-C) id AA11258; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:09:11 +0200 Received: from mmra9.mmra1 by mmra1.ms.philips.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09751; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:23:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:23:43 +0100 From: rsilfhou@mmra1.ms.philips.nl (Ruud van Silfhout) Message-Id: <9501040923.AA09751@mmra1.ms.philips.nl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Failed installation on big IDE-drive Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am having problems installing 2.0R on a fixed IDE disk. Here's what happens: The CMOS can be set to autodetect the hard disk. It then reports 1048 cylinders, 16 heads and 63 sectors/track. (When I use the FreeBSD boot floppies at this stage, they report the disk to have the same geometry during the boot proces.) So far so good. Then I 'sliced' the disk using MSDOS-FDISK.EXE. After that, FreeBSD seems to think (not during boot, then the geometry is still 1048C/16H/63S) when in the Fdisk section of the install that the geometry is 524C/32H/63S. So clearly the DOS FDISK.EXE has done something strange. I then changed this geometry info back to 1048C/16H and then the installation fails after the reboot with "No Operating Syetem Found". I also tried to put 524/32 in the CMOS and use these values instead but then the FreeBSD instalation process tells me that 32 Heads are not allowed. My conclusion: I should be using the 1048C/16H setup because FreeBSD won't eat the 32Heads solution, but because of the DOS Fdisk I should be using the 524/32 solution. Clearly this bites :-( I read the TROUBLESHOOTING document but as far as I know I did everything mentioned inside. I have one question though: it tells to keep the root partition below cylinder 1024. If this is indeed the root partition in the FreeBSD slice, then I did this. But if the complete FreeBSD slice should fit below the 1024th cylinder, then that might be the problem. Can someone please tell me which values I have to use where??? (Btw: this was the MSDOS 5.0 FDISK) Thanks in advance, Ruud van Silfhout (rsilfhou@mmra1.ms.philips.nl) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 03:19:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA21890 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 03:19:21 -0800 Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA21860 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 03:16:40 -0800 Received: from g386bsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28864; Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:14:52 +0100 Received: by g386bsd.first.gmd.de (MAA10762); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:17:04 +0100 From: Andreas Schulz Message-Id: <199501041117.MAA10762@g386bsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack for PCs To: hellis@domus.com (Hugh S. Ellis) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:17:04 +0059 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501040144.UAA00314@domus.domus.com> from "Hugh S. Ellis" at Jan 3, 95 08:44:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1363 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting > all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or > worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD > server? > > I have been told that there are some reasonable public domain TCP stacks for > PCs running Windows. Any recommendations as to what I should be looking for? > Also, if I can tune up my firewall, I would like to get them running X. Are > there versions of X for MS-Windows out there? What is likely to be most > compatible with my FreeBSD system? There are many possibilities to do that. What i like most in the moment is to use the trumpet software as the TCP/IP stack for DOS/windows and use eudora as a mail program and qvtnet as a news reader and for login/ftp connection. netscape is my choice as a WWW reader. I don't know if this works well with novell. We don't have another network. Only using DOS/WINDOWS on some PC's. I have also read pegasus is a nice email package under windows. Another option for the TCP/IP stack should also be PC/NFS from SUN or a TCP/IP stack for windows from Microsoft. ATS ( ats@first.gmd.de or ats@cs.tu-berlin.de ) Andreas Schulz GMD-FIRST 12489 Berlin-Adlershof Rudower Chaussee 5 Gebaeude 13.7 Tel: +49-30-6392-1856/+49-177-2134745 Germany/Europe From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 04:32:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA22823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 04:32:40 -0800 Received: from gaudi.diatel.upm.es (gaudi.diatel.upm.es [138.100.49.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA22817 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 04:32:36 -0800 Received: by gaudi.diatel.upm.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) Wed, 4 Jan 95 13:28:22 +0100 X400-Received: by mta diatel.upm in /PRMD=/ADMD=/C=/; Relayed; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:28:20 UTC+0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/; Relayed; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:28:20 UTC+0100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:28:20 UTC+0100 X400-Originator: jmrueda@diatel.upm.es X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/;950104132820] Content-Identifier: 553 Conversion: Prohibited From: Javier Martin Rueda To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <553*/S=jmrueda/OU=diatel/O=upm/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/@MHS> Subject: Re: I ftped, Now what? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I ftped everything under the 2.0-FreeBSD directory. I currently run > SCO (sorry :) but would like to convert to FreeBSD. I have a 2GB SCSII DAT > drive. I've read everything I could get my hands on. But I'm still not > sure what to do next. I know I need to create the floppies, but what files/ > directories do I move to the tape. And, wht do I use, tar or cpio? I suggest you use tar and begin dumping from the 2.0-RELEASE directory, so that the tape looks like: bindist/xxxxxx From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 05:17:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA24010 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:17:44 -0800 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA24004 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:17:42 -0800 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id AAA13708; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:16:59 +1100 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:16:58 +1100 (DST) From: Carey Nairn To: "Hugh S. Ellis" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack for PCs In-Reply-To: <199501040144.UAA00314@domus.domus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Hugh S. Ellis wrote: > > Hi there, > > I will be using my FreeBSD system as a firewall through which my users > will connect to the Internet. (Network's not connected yet since my firewall > isn't quite ready :( > > While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting > all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or > worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD > server? Trumpet Winsock is quite good and supports SLIP and PPP as well as direct network connections. Winsock will also allow machines with direct connections to get all their info from a bootp server if you ahev one running.It is used here quite a lot, as well as Microsoft's TCP/IP stack for Windows for Workgroups. > > I have been told that there are some reasonable public domain TCP stacks for > PCs running Windows. Any recommendations as to what I should be looking for? > Also, if I can tune up my firewall, I would like to get them running X. Are > there versions of X for MS-Windows out there? What is likely to be most > compatible with my FreeBSD system? > There is a program called X-Win which will run X under windows but I'm not sure if it is shareware or public domain software... ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 06:31:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA24876 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:31:10 -0800 Received: from Trinidad.Imagination.Com (isi-gw.infi.net [198.22.1.39]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA24870 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:31:04 -0800 Received: from Morpheus.Imagination.Com (Morpheus.Imagination.Com [198.133.144.253]) by Trinidad.Imagination.Com (8.6.8/8.3) with SMTP id JAA26126; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:30:20 -0500 Received: from MORPHEUS/SMTPQ by Morpheus.Imagination.Com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 4 Jan 95 9:30:25 EST5EDT Received: from SMTPQ by MORPHEUS (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 4 Jan 95 9:30:18 EST5EDT From: "Pavlov's Cat" Organization: Imagination Systems, Inc. To: "Hugh S. Ellis" Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:30:08 EST5EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack for PCs CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <94146932D47@Morpheus.Imagination.Com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Hugh S. Ellis" penned: > > I will be using my FreeBSD system as a firewall through which my users > will connect to the Internet. > > While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting > all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or > worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD > server? > I'm running a small system shop here that does EXACTLY what you're describing. I'm very happy with the results I've gotten using: - The MicroSoft TCP/IP for Windows stuff. Requires Windows for Workgroups, but you ought to have WinDoze users running this version anyway ;-) It has the added advantage of letting the WinDoze boxes share files, printers, etc... peer-to-peer, as well as using the FreeBSD box as a router, print server, file server and gateway to the internet. Get it at "ftp.microsoft.com" - Samba SMB / Lan Manager File Server Lets users mount FreeBSD media as local drives on the WinDoze boxes, plus lets WinDoze users use the printer resources that FreeBSD has installed. This is a great code stack, and is very stable at release 1.8.05. (In fact, I've used this to replace an existing NetWare box, which was doing much of the same stuff at much greater cost per seat. Plus, I don't have to futz around with all of the various PC-based NFS hose-age. Get it at "nimbus.anu.edu.au" - Trumpet WinSock For my users who need to dial in from their laptops, I run WfWG (without the Microsoft TCP/IP stuff) and this GREAT software stack. It has scripted dialing, SLIP, PPP and some semi-lame apps like a cheesey VT emulator. But for dial-up access, there is nothing else that comes close. (Sorry, NetManage!) Get it at "ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/cica/winsock" - Pegasus Mail This is a wonderful E-Mail package that handles MHS, NetWare, SMTP and POP mail. (Probably more, but that's all I use) It's available in DOS- and WinDoze-versions, so all of your heathen users can be happy. This package, in conjunction with `popper` and the Trumpet WinSock, makes a mobile mail solution that's hard to beat! (Examine the header of this message to see evidence of a disciple!) Get it at "risc.ua.edu" As far as X goes, I had the X-Win package that somebody else described in another post, and it worked really well on WinDoze boxes, it yakked all over itself under NT (which is what I use most), so I lost it. There are many commercial X environments that work well, but I'm not going to spend $600 a seat for 'em. (Hey, vendors, are you listening?) As far as getting some "real" network stuff for your NetWare servers, I've got FTP, SMTP, POP and a couple of other helpers loaded on my Novell servers; if you need pointers to these, let me know. In short - I'm using FreeBSD boxes where uptime, performance, cost and stability are paramount, I let the unwashed masses use their DOS/Windows/NetWare stuff that they're too stubborn to give up. It just works! Hope this helps. -- ...sjs... Steve Sims Imagination Systems, Inc SimsS@Infi.Net Virginia Beach, VA Boy I wish I had a cool .sig... 804/497-8200 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 06:59:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA25018 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:59:05 -0800 Received: from mail1.bytex.network.com (mail1.bytex.network.com [129.191.225.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA25012 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 06:58:58 -0800 Received: from ws062 (ws062.bytex.network.com) by mail1.bytex.network.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00673; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:59:14 EST Received: from localhost by ws062 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20453; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:59:13 EST Message-Id: <9501041459.AA20453@ws062> To: Dave Tweten Cc: dusio , questions@freebsd.org, dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jan 1995 19:01:32 PST." <199501040301.TAA03490@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 09:59:12 -0500 From: dusio Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dave, Thanks for the help and advice. Shortly after receiving your message, I read a posting in com.windows.x.i368unix by a user with the same video card. He suggested that even though our card uses a proprietary clockchip, that using the icd????a (I forget now) clockchip entry works fine. ...It worked for me too! I get all the modes from 640x400 through 1280x1024 and its awesome! I do need to center and scale a bit, and that's where your insight will help. I liked the format of your response. It answered my questions directly while also providing insight in a hands-on useable way. I'm sure that I can now scale and move the steady images on my screen. I was pleased to learn about the <+> and <-> keystrokes to switch between modes. That will help me debug my experiments. I had considered creating a spreadsheet, but I decided to code it in prolog (or C) so it could find all the possible ModeLines for me. I don't know how to get a spreadsheet to do that... ...Well, OK maybe I do. Anyway, Thanks a lot for the info. I appreciate your concern and replies. Metaphorically speaking, Now that I've eaten, I'm glad you helped teach me to fish instead of giving me a fish. I would still like to know: How do I get ot the displays with the other depths? The <+> keystroke moves me between resolutions in a depth, but how do I get the other depths? Thanks, Joe Dusio (dusio@bytex.network.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 07:06:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA25108 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:06:11 -0800 Received: from squid.umd.edu (squid.umd.edu [129.2.40.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA25102 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:06:07 -0800 Received: by squid.umd.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA18922; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:11:44 -0500 From: fcawth@squid.umd.edu (Fred Cawthorne) Message-Id: <9501041511.AA18922@squid.umd.edu> Subject: Re: ft problems To: smui@sparta.sjsu.edu (Sherman F Mui) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:11:44 EST Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Sherman F Mui" at Jan 3, 95 8:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi again, > > I thought I had everything working with my new tape drive. =) I was dead > wrong. I get this error when the tape runs out of tape, > > ft0: unrecoverable write error on block 3200 > > I'm probably not doing something right here. I have a 200 meg tape. I > tried 'dump usfd 400 - 43690 /dev/sd0a | ft' then 'dump ufd - /dev/sd0a | > ft'. And my root partition is ~15mb. > BTW, what's a 200 meg tape?? Is it a long dc2120 or something??? remember that alot of these people like to quote compressed capacities for their tape drives. A normal "250" meg drive is really 120 meg, etc... Ok... the ft driver does automatic volume switching... You don't need to tell dump anything about the length of the tape, etc... (This is a good thing, since when doing compressed backups, you can't know how much will fit on the tape and you must otherwise guess...) ft will prompt you to put in a new tape when the end is reached. (It opens /dev/tty to interact with you, so the pipe won't get messed up even) > So I think maybe it's dump. I tried 'tar zvcf - /usr/local | ft > "/usr/local save"', which is ~77 mb. > I have successfully used dump and restore with a colorado "250" meg tape drive, both compressed and uncompressed. > (side note: I can't get tar's -X option to work right, it just refuses to > exclude a directory I specify) > Hmmm. Don't know about this one, I always use dump since I like the interactive mode (: > Now what's wrong? Oh, and ft is going nuts and refuses to die. I have to > reboot to make it stop winding and re-winding my stupid tape... > Yeah... There was something in the source about this bug being fixed, but somehow I don't think so... I have seen this when I tried to use a bad tape. Try another one. (I even reformatted it successfully, but it still didn't work right) I just tried a new preformatted tape and it worked fine... Good luck... Fred. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 07:35:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA25559 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:35:44 -0800 Received: from hudson.lm.com (hudson.lm.com [192.231.221.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA25553 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:35:43 -0800 Received: (from news@localhost) by hudson.lm.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA20184 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:35:48 -0500 Path: hudson.lm.com!ivory.lm.com!not-for-mail From: peterb@telerama.lm.com (Peter Berger) Newsgroups: mail.freebsd-questions Subject: CDRom easy question -- need answer Date: 4 Jan 1995 10:35:50 -0500 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA USA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3eef8m$otf@ivory.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ivory.lm.com Apparently-To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! My girlfriend (bless her heart) just bought me a Sony CDRom for my birthday. I was planning of bringing up FreeBSD on a new machine -- and my understanding is that only Mitsubishi (and SCSI) drives are supported. This drive came with a three-way panasonic/mitsubishi/sony interface card, of which I am using the Sony connector. Can I use this with FreeBSD, or is it back to the store with it for a trade-in...? -- ...................................................................... Peter G. Berger, Esq. Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh Internet: peterb@telerama.lm.com Phone: 412/481-3505 Fax: 412/481-8568 http://www.lm.com/~peterb From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 08:33:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA26266 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:33:42 -0800 Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.168]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA26259 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:33:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.3/8.3) with ESMTP id IAA07761; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:33:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199501041633.IAA07761@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Reply-To: Dave Tweten To: dusio cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 08:33:14 -0800 From: Dave Tweten Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Joe Dusio writes: >I would still like to know: > How do I get ot the displays with the other > depths? The <+> keystroke moves me > between resolutions in a depth, but how do I > get the other depths? I had to ask the news group exactly the same question last month, while getting Truecolor to work on my system. The answer is that there is no way to switch between display depths. You can use the "-bpp " option when starting X to choose a depth for the duration of that server run, but you cannot make the X server switch between depths, on-the-fly. The place to make the selection for Xdm (which is what I use to start a server) is in X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers. It's not exactly clear to me where the choice should be specified for a startx user, perhaps your $HOME/.xserverrc file? Anyway, I hope this helps. Enjoy. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 08:54:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA26466 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:54:20 -0800 Received: from isc.sjsu.edu (sparta.SJSU.EDU [130.65.3.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA26460 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:54:15 -0800 Received: by isc.sjsu.edu (4.1/25-eef) id AA13578; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:51:05 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:51:04 -0800 (PST) From: Sherman F Mui Subject: Re: ft problems To: Fred Cawthorne Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9501041511.AA18922@squid.umd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Fred Cawthorne wrote: > BTW, what's a 200 meg tape?? Is it a long dc2120 or something??? > remember that alot of these people like to quote compressed capacities > for their tape drives. A normal "250" meg drive is really 120 meg, > etc... It's actually a 200 meg tape, uncompressed. I think it's a new drive by conner that uses QIC-WIDE format and is 420 compressed. Maybe this is the problem. But the Windows software it comes with says it's a QIC-80... > Ok... the ft driver does automatic volume switching... You don't need > to tell dump anything about the length of the tape, etc... > (This is a good thing, since when doing compressed backups, you can't > know how much will fit on the tape and you must otherwise guess...) > ft will prompt you to put in a new tape when the end is reached. > (It opens /dev/tty to interact with you, so the pipe won't get messed up > even) Hmm, I tried dump without specifying the tape length, same thing. > I have successfully used dump and restore with a colorado "250" meg tape > drive, both compressed and uncompressed. A lot of people have said this one works well. Maybe I should exchange 'em. Does it come with a 3 drive floppy ribbon? I've had to disable my 5.25" floppy. > Hmmm. Don't know about this one, I always use dump since I like the > interactive mode (: Interactive mode? > Yeah... There was something in the source about this bug being fixed, but > somehow I don't think so... > I have seen this when I tried to use a bad tape. Try another one. > (I even reformatted it successfully, but it still didn't work right) > I just tried a new preformatted tape and it worked fine... Hmm, I'm thinking it's my drive that's not really compatible. Sherman From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 09:33:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA27328 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:33:27 -0800 Received: from walt.disney.com (walt.disney.com [139.104.1.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA27320 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:33:18 -0800 From: pirzyk@fa.disney.com Received: from dalsdb by walt.disney.com with SMTP id AA22123 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.3 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 4 Jan 1995 09:32:48 -0800 Received: from snowhite.fa.disney.com by dalsdb with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #53) id m0rPZZs-000005C; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:32 PST Received: from temphost by snowhite.fa.disney.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #53) id m0rPZZQ-0004CBC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:32 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:32 EST To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: default block size on rdump Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to restore a tape from a FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 machine on a sun. What is the default block size when writing to the tape. I have not found it by looking at the FAQs. I have tried restore -rbf 1024 /dev/rst1 and it restore the stuff but it said that it was skipping blocks and resynching itself. Thanks in advance. - Jim Pirzyk --- __o [Jim] pirzyk@fa.disney.com -------------------------------------- _'\<,_ System Administrator, Walt Disney Feature Animation Florida (*)/ (*) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 11:47:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA28714 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:47:30 -0800 Received: from hermes.cybernetics.net (hermes.cybernetics.net [198.80.51.103]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA28708 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:47:27 -0800 Received: (from james@localhost) by hermes.cybernetics.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA01742; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:57:05 -0500 From: James Robinson Message-Id: <199501041957.OAA01742@hermes.cybernetics.net> Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree To: tweten@frihet.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:57:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501041633.IAA07761@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> from "Dave Tweten" at Jan 4, 95 08:33:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 666 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've heard that you can start up different X servers (at different depths) on seperate virtual consoles (granted enough swap space, OC). It seems that the X protocol has no provisions for switching depths on the fly. Has anyone actually done this -- for example running both 8 and 16 bpp at once? This would make a good Howto / FAQ file, IMO ! James : James Robinson : james@hermes.cybernetics.net ::See the screaming hot black :FreeBSD|XFree86 :The best things in life are Free:: steaming iridescent : Frank Zappa : Music is the best ::naughahyde python screaming : HTTP Server : http://hermes.cybernetics.net/ :: steam roller! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 11:52:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA28749 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:52:58 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA28743 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:52:56 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA28353; Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:46:42 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9501041946.AA28353@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: default block size on rdump To: pirzyk@fa.disney.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:46:42 MST Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "pirzyk@fa.disney.com" at Jan 4, 95 12:32:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to restore a tape from a FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 machine on a sun. What > is the default block size when writing to the tape. I have not found it by > looking at the FAQs. I have tried 20k; this should be the same as the Sun. You may need to use dd if=/dev/rst0 conv=swab | instead of trying to extract directly from tape. SPARC chips and Intel chips have different byte orders. This is especially relevent if you don't use the 'a' (ASCII) and 'c' (CHARACTER) cpio options as religious defaults, for instance. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 13:15:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA00422 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:15:45 -0800 Received: from borris.khoros.unm.edu (borris.khoros.unm.edu [198.59.155.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA00416 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:15:42 -0800 Received: by borris.khoros.unm.edu (4.1/KHOROS/Feb 18 1994) id <9501042115.AA10384@borris.khoros.unm.edu>; Wed, 4 Jan 95 14:15:17 MST Posted-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:15:16 MST Message-Id: <9501042115.AA10384@borris.khoros.unm.edu> From: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:15:16 MST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot install problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I posted a message several days ago that I was having problems getting the multiboot working on my system. My system is configured as sd0 with freebsd, sd1 dos, and sd2 a combination of both freebsd and dos partitions. After a couple of suggestions and some ideas I got from reading this list, I figured that my problems with the multiboot were probably due to the fact that the geometry in dos and freebsd were not agreeing. So, I back'ed up my disk, and prepared to start over with the install with a correct disk geometry. So, I dug out my drive manual, and ran pfdisk in dos and set the geometry of the disk to what it is supposed to be. I also made sure that my adaptec's auto mapping of drives > 1GB option was off. After setting the geometry in dos, I booted of the boot floppy, and ran the install program. From fdisk here, I set the geometry to the same as I set it from pfdisk in dos. Then I proceeded to make my /, swap, /usr, and user partions and it got to the point where it told me to remove the boot floppy and reboot. When I did this the boot stops when it accesses the hard disk. No error message at all, it just sits there forever. So, appearently I've messed up the geometry really bad now.. :) So, my question is, "What am I doing wrong?" Should low level the disk and start from a blank slate? Are the real numbers provided in my hd manual not the correct ones? Does this boot menu program require a human sacrifice? :) A friend of mine has gone through the install on a < 1GB drive, and all this stuff just worked for him, so I'm thinking it has something to do with the fact the partion layout stuff just doesn't work on a hd that is too big. Has anyone that is using a > 1GB disk gotten this multiboot thingy to work? Any help appreciated. Steve -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen | Khoral Research Inc. steve@khoros.unm.edu | 6001 Indian School, Suite 200 (505) 837-6500 | Albuquerque, NM 87110 ------------------------+------------------------------------ This Space for Rent. | URL: http://www.khoros.unm.edu ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 17:17:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA06568 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:17:58 -0800 Received: from eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (eureka.gdl.iteso.mx [148.201.1.15]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA06562 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:17:55 -0800 Received: (from cacho@localhost) by eureka.gdl.iteso.mx (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA01048; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:34:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:34:26 -0600 (CST) From: Hector Gonzalez Jaime Subject: Re: TCP/IP stack for PCs To: "Hugh S. Ellis" cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199501040144.UAA00314@domus.domus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Hugh S. Ellis wrote: > While FreeBSD is really cool, I think I may get some resistance to converting > all my users from DOS to FreeBSD. Given that they may be running DOS, or > worse, DOS + Novell, what is the best way to allow them to access my FreeBSD > server? > You don't have to convince them, you could set-up a nice e-mail environment with pegasus-mail (for netware, freeware, check risc.ua.edu, cd to /pub/network/pegasus, and download the latest version of pmail, winpmail, and mercury) pmail is for ms-dos or windows with netware, and mercury will connect it to your freebsd host, without a dedicated pc for the work, it runs on your netware server. Other applications, you can find with archie, look for: xappeal (xserver for msdos, needs xdm on freebsd) cutcp (now rutgers tcp, former ncsa, former clarkson) this comes with a telnet, ftp, ping and a tn3270, and with lp clients, files will be zipped as tel??bin.zip, tel??src.zip and tel??doc.zip, depending on the version. most free tcp applications for msdos/windows work with a packet driver, if your card comes with one, use it, if not, clarkson used to provide an extended set of packet drivers, you may find the collections on many sites. for novell, you should use the odipkt packet driver, and odi drivers, or apps that use odi directly, such as the pc-kermit, and the rutgers telnet. for windows, you should download the a winsocket implementation, such as the trumpet winsock, then look at the apps directories for winsockets, (look at sunsite.unc.edu) there are gopher, http (mosaic uses winsockets, as netscape does, netscape IS something to look at!) Your users will then be able to use FreeBSD, without knowing they are using unix. > I have been told that there are some reasonable public domain TCP stacks for > PCs running Windows. Any recommendations as to what I should be looking for? > Also, if I can tune up my firewall, I would like to get them running X. Are > there versions of X for MS-Windows out there? What is likely to be most > compatible with my FreeBSD system? > > Thanks, > > Hugh Ellis > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 18:09:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA07105 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:09:05 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07099 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:09:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA01808; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:08:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot install problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Jan 95 14:15:16 MST." <9501042115.AA10384@borris.khoros.unm.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 18:08:28 -0800 Message-ID: <1807.789271708@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > A friend of mine has gone through the install on a < 1GB drive, and > all this stuff just worked for him, so I'm thinking it has something > to do with the fact the partion layout stuff just doesn't work on > a hd that is too big. Has anyone that is using a > 1GB disk > gotten this multiboot thingy to work? You can enable the translation, just install DOS first, run the supplied pfdisk utility to verify the translation scheme that DOS is using, then install FreeBSD and use the (G)eometry option to specify this translated geometry. Piece of cake.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 18:29:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA07938 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:29:46 -0800 Received: from goof.com (root@goof.com [198.82.204.15]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07932 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 18:29:45 -0800 Received: (from mmead@localhost) by goof.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA05950 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:29:23 -0500 From: "matthew c. mead" Message-Id: <199501050229.VAA05950@goof.com> Subject: disklabel reports too large partitions To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:29:23 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1234 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: microp4110 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 93 tracks/cylinder: 9 sectors/cylinder: 837 cylinders: 2453 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 102400 0 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 0 - 122*) b: 163840 102400 swap # (Cyl. 122*- 318*) c: 2053880 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2453*) d: 2053880 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2453*) e: 1787640 266240 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 318*- 2453*) partition c: partition extends past end of unit partition d: partition extends past end of unit partition e: partition extends past end of unit Having partitions extend to the last cylinder is a problem? Should I have made them extend to 2452? -matt -- Matthew C. Mead -- System/Network Administration, User Support, Software Devel. Virginia Tech Center for Transportation Research Work Related: mmead@ctr.vt.edu | All Other: mmead@goof.com WWW: http://www.goof.com:/~mmead From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 20:46:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA19704 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:46:22 -0800 Received: from ecf.puc.edu ([165.113.252.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA19696 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:46:19 -0800 Received: by ecf.puc.edu (5.61/1.35) id AA25363; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:45:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:45:21 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Falconer To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IDE CDROM drivers? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Been having fun with FreeBSD 2.0. I was wondering if any support for EIDE (ATAPI) CDROM drives is planned or in the works? Also, any support for multi-serial port boards? On the order of 16 to 64 ports? Or do the companies that make these card not want to reveal their secrets? Thanks for your time and effort, Jon Falconer Systems Manager Pacific Union College From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 20:55:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id UAA20085 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:55:53 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20079 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:55:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA02683; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:54:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jon Falconer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM drivers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Jan 95 20:45:21 PST." Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 20:54:17 -0800 Message-ID: <2681.789281657@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Been having fun with FreeBSD 2.0. I was wondering if any support for > EIDE (ATAPI) CDROM drives is planned or in the works? It's planned, but no firm project has yet been started. > Also, any support for multi-serial port boards? On the order of 16 > to 64 ports? Or do the companies that make these card not want to reveal > their secrets? BOCA and Digiboard come to mind. We supposedly support both, though I've no direct experience with that. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 21:33:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA25531 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:33:06 -0800 Received: from psycfrnd.interaccess.com (psycfrnd.interaccess.com [198.80.1.26]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA25525 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:33:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (madsen@localhost) by psycfrnd.interaccess.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id XAA07784; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:30:05 -0600 From: David Madsen Message-Id: <199501050530.XAA07784@psycfrnd.interaccess.com> Subject: SCSI Errors during 2.0 CD install To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:30:05 -0600 (CST) Cc: madsen@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (David Madsen) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1088 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having severe problems installing 2.0 from the CD. I have an EISA 486/50 DX (not /2!) with 16 MB, 1742A controller and st12550N disk. The geometry is untranslated, there is an existing DOS partition, the first (root) slice in the freebsd partition is completely below cyl 1024 (but paging is not). At various times during the install, I get "Soft error ... corrected" messages. Later on, the install completely dies with : ahb0: board not responding Debugger ("aha1742") called. panic: panic for historical reasons syncing disks 44 44 44 44 [and so on] I have also gotten the numbers 108 and 2 instead of 44 in the syncing disks message. I have no problem with this controller/disk in any other OS. Unfortunately, if this problem has been addressed adready, I don't know about it since my archives of this list are on tape right now waiting to be restored when this installation is successful... (oops). Any suggestions on how to fix this or get the required information to be able to fix it? Dave Madsen ---dcm madsen@vijit.com -or- madsen@interaccess.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 21:46:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA25766 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:46:12 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA25760 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:46:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA02920; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:45:40 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: David Madsen cc: questions@freebsd.org, madsen@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (David Madsen) Subject: Re: SCSI Errors during 2.0 CD install In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Jan 95 23:30:05 CST." <199501050530.XAA07784@psycfrnd.interaccess.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 21:45:39 -0800 Message-ID: <2919.789284739@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have an EISA 486/50 DX (not /2!) with 16 MB, 1742A > controller and st12550N disk. The geometry is Is the controller in standard or enhanced mode? If it's in standard mode, what happens when you run it fully enhanced? Thanks. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 4 23:38:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA27628 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:38:13 -0800 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA27622 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:38:11 -0800 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28020; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 08:38:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199501050738.IAA28020@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: "matthew c. mead" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disklabel reports too large partitions In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Jan 1995 21:29:23 EST." <199501050229.VAA05950@goof.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 08:38:44 +0100 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Salut, In the message disklabel reports too large partitions, "matthew c. mead" wrote : > e: 1787640 266240 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 318*- 2453*) >partition c: partition extends past end of unit >partition d: partition extends past end of unit >partition e: partition extends past end of unit > I have the same problem with partition d on sd0 disklabel sd0 reports that d is too large and it is. disklabel -r sd0 is ok Note that my partition `a' starts at offset 0 as yours. AHA1542CF/Toshiba 1014MB -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 00:37:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA28541 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:37:37 -0800 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.0.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA28535 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:37:34 -0800 Received: from [130.234.41.34] (beeblebrox.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA24862 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:38:16 +0200 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:46:27 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: How to move user account from Sun to FreeBSD - psw crypting Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to copy user accounts (username, passwd and home dir) from a Sun to FreeBSD machine. The passwd seems to be a problem. I know that I can copy the crypted passwd from Sun's /etc/shadow to Linux's /etc/passwd directly and it works. But I did try same with FreeBSD (vipw) and it did not work. The same crypted passwd appears in /etc/master.passwd as it is in Sun's /etc/shadow as it should. Can you help me? Is there NIS/YP in FreeBSD, does it work with Sun? Seppo Kallio U of Jyvaskyla =46inland From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 00:41:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA28634 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:41:29 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA28621 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:41:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA03789; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 00:40:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to move user account from Sun to FreeBSD - psw crypting In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jan 95 10:46:27 +0200." Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 00:40:49 -0800 Message-ID: <3788.789295249@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to copy user accounts (username, passwd and home dir) from a > Sun to FreeBSD machine. FreeBSD machines use MD5 encryption by default, which is stronger that DES encryption and not export restricted. If your Linux box is doing DES, I'd kind of like to know where you got the distribution from there in Finland! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 01:11:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA29178 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:11:49 -0800 Received: from bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.77.76]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29172 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:11:26 -0800 Received: from larry.rrze.uni-erlangen.de by bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP; id KAA01932 (8.6.9/7.3s-FAU); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:10:48 +0100 From: Falko Dressler Message-Id: <199501050910.KAA01932@bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Subject: NFS performance To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:10:30 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 912 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've a problem with the performance of my FreeBSD NFS server. To read files from this server isn't a problem. It works very well and fast enough for me. The performance-"killer" is to write something to my server. The server is running FreeBSD 2.0R (it's a 486EISA/WD8013-Ethernet). If I use a FreeBSD client, the write works but very slowly (about 50-100 packets per second [pps]). If I try it from any other machine like a Sun or a SGI the write fails after 100kB or so with the reason "Stale NFS file handle" or "I/O Error". And the performance of the write of the first kBytes isn't very good as well (about 100pps). If I use the option wsize=1024 when I mount the NFS filesystem, the write works but too slowly. On other BSD based operation (like BSDI) systems the NFS works much better. DO you know any solution for my problem? Falko. -- Falko Dressler Falko.Dressler@rrze.uni-erlangen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 01:14:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA29235 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:14:16 -0800 Received: from ICNUCEVX.CNUCE.CNR.IT (icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.1.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29226 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:14:12 -0800 From: ROSSILEON@unisi.it Received: from SIVAX (ROSSILEON@SIVAX@DECNET-MAIL ) by icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it (PMDF V4.3-13 #6635) id <01HLHFC0C5IOF35O3E@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it>; Thu, 05 Jan 1995 10:13:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 10:13 +0100 (MET) Subject: TECHINCAL QUESTIONS To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG Message-id: <01HLHFC0J4AQF35O3E@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Original-To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: questions-owner@FREEBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have some techical questions for you: 1) Please give me more informations about the SLIP connection method. 2) Suppose I have a personal computer (such as a Macintosh or a PC running MS-DOS) named client.dummy.xx and connected via network card to a server running FreeBSD named server.dummy.xx. If I run locally on the client an application that uses Internet (such as Fetch or Mosaic), the server receives as caller name: client.dummy.xx or server.dummy.xx? If someone sends mail or make FTP to client.dummy.xx when it is connected to a remote node what happens? Note that client.dummy.xx is not always connected to the server, it is only a temporary Internet address. 3) Can a personal computer (such as a Macintosh or a PC running Windows) connected to the server VIA MODEM using COMMUTATE (not dedicated) lines run locally a program that uses Internet (such as Fetch or Mosaic)? Thank you. Leonardo Rossi Available on: Internet: University of Siena: rossileon@sivax.unisi.it Fidonet (matrix): Unreal BBS: 2:332/110.0 Glass Globe BBS: 2:332/118.0 Aminet (matrix): Glass Globe BBS: 39:102/201.0 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 01:26:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA29642 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:26:48 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29636 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:26:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA04049; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:25:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: ROSSILEON@unisi.it cc: QUESTIONS@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TECHINCAL QUESTIONS In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jan 95 10:13:00 +0100." <01HLHFC0J4AQF35O3E@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 01:25:52 -0800 Message-ID: <4048.789297952@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > If I run locally on the client an application that uses Internet (such as > Fetch or Mosaic), the server receives as caller name: client.dummy.xx or > server.dummy.xx? It receives the client name. Machines at the end of point-to-point links are supposed to have valid IP addresses/names like any machine hooked directly to your ethernet. The fact that they take another hop to get onto the wire doesn't disqualify them from being full network nodes in their own right. > > If someone sends mail or make FTP to client.dummy.xx when it is connected > to a remote node what happens? Note that client.dummy.xx is not always It gets delivered, I guess! > 3) Can a personal computer (such as a Macintosh or a PC running Windows) > connected to the server VIA MODEM using COMMUTATE (not dedicated) lines ru n > locally a program that uses Internet (such as Fetch or Mosaic)? Uh. Yes! I thought this was obvious? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 03:11:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA01947 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:11:51 -0800 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA01941 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:11:49 -0800 Received: (daveh@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.11) id DAA19190 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:11:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:11:20 -0800 From: "David M. Holloway" Message-Id: <199501051111.DAA19190@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xv Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk perhaps you have seeen my post, perhap not. but I amm having problems ans would appreciate any insight you have. first of all here i my sysstem. FreeBD 2.0 with xfree (whatever version wa there when FreeBSD 2.0 was released) an intel 486 dx2 50 vesa 8 megs raam, 700 megs HD adaptec 1540, orchid Farhenheit 1280 +vlb soo anyway I have been uing FreeBSD since 1.0 and when I went to 2.0, all was fine..(I like the new installation) except when I ftp'd the package of xv it did not work properly, colors were not right . ometimes close but never right. so grabbed the port instead, compiled it... and it too behaved the same so just to be sure I ftp'd the tiff and jpeg sources compiled them and still no improvment, I am simly baffled because I have no where too go to to figure this out, usually I have been aable to figure out lots of buggy software from error message but there are no error meage jut wrong colors. and yes I have a problem with my 's' key :) thanks for listening david Holloway daveh@csua.berkeley.edu p.s. the www page has not been updated to mention support adaptec 27?? that justin made. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 03:18:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA02018 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:18:38 -0800 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02012 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:18:35 -0800 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA19589; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:18:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA01409; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:18:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199501051118.DAA01409@corbin.Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: corbin.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "David M. Holloway" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xv In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jan 95 03:11:20 PST." <199501051111.DAA19190@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 03:18:05 -0800 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >except when I ftp'd the package of xv >it did not work properly, colors were not right . ometimes close but never right. >so grabbed the port instead, compiled it... and it too behaved the same >so just to be sure I ftp'd the tiff and jpeg sources compiled them >and still no improvment, I am simly baffled because I have no where too >go to to figure this out, usually I have been aable to figure out lots of >buggy software from error message but there are no error meage >jut wrong colors. It sounds as though xv isn't able to allocate enough colormap entries to adequately display the picture. Does it look better if you use xv -perfect, and then move the pointer into the picture window? -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 03:26:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA02087 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:26:23 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02081 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:26:12 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA08129; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:25:34 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 03:25:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199501051125.DAA08129@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: tweten@frihet.com CC: dusio@ws062.bytex.network.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199501041633.IAA07761@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> (message from Dave Tweten on Wed, 04 Jan 1995 08:33:14 -0800) Subject: Re: Can't get 1024x768 in Xfree From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * You can use the "-bpp " option when starting X to choose a depth for * the duration of that server run, but you cannot make the X server switch * between depths, on-the-fly. The place to make the selection for Xdm (which is * what I use to start a server) is in X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers. It's not * exactly clear to me where the choice should be specified for a startx user, * perhaps your $HOME/.xserverrc file? I use xinit -- -bpp 16 Satoshi (and I think startx sucks the same options too) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 5 23:01:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA00471 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:01:00 -0800 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA00461 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:00:58 -0800 Received: from hpautow.aus.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA124755655; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:00:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199501060700.AA124755655@hp.com> Received: by hpautow.aus.hp.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01200; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:00:08 +1100 From: "M.C Wong" Subject: sender's name masquerading To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 18:00:07 EDT X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14.c] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I want to achieve sender's name masquerading with the following situation : - I have a shell account on an ISP with say email address myname@remote.host - I have an account on a workstation on the local net with email address myname@myworkstation.localdomain - all mail are sent to myname@mailrelay.localdomain and get redirected to myname@myworkstation.localdomain. All replies will have myname@mailrelay.localdomain appearing as sender in message header. That is : incoming mail sender@else.world ------> mynamemailrelay.localdomain ----------------> myname outgoing mail recipient@else.world <------ mynamemailrelay.localdomain <-------------- myname In mailrelay:/usr/mail/myname, it looks like : Forward to myname@myworkstation.localdomain Now, I want to be able to achieve this further such that all mails get sent to myname@remote.host will get directed myname@mailrelay.localdomain, which in turn get directed to myname@myworkstation.localdomain. This can be done easily with saying : myname@mailrelay.localdomain in remote.host:~myname/.forward Now, on myworkstation.localdomain, I want to be able to : 1) reply to all mails sent to myname@remote.host such that it will have myname@remote.host appears as the sender's address! 2) send mail as myname@remote.host to others on either local domain or rest of the world. Can someone tell me if this achievable ? Thanks in advance. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://hpautow.aus.hp.com:9999/~mcw/mcw.html (or http://hpautorf/~mcw) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 00:58:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA07489 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:58:57 -0800 Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id AAA07482 for questions; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:58:57 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:58:57 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199501060858.AAA07482@freefall.cdrom.com> To: questions Subject: One final test [questions] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Making sure all the lists are back to life (sigh).. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 01:18:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id BAA08946 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:18:59 -0800 Received: from balboa.eng.uci.edu (balboa.eng.uci.edu [128.200.61.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA08938 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:18:57 -0800 Received: by balboa.eng.uci.edu id AA13430 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:18:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:18:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Stanley K. Cheong" Subject: internal modem woes To: comp.os.386bsd.questions@ics, FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanx to Bruce Evans and Daniel Ortmann, I have finally been able to build a kernel that will recognize my internal modem (Gateway 2000 Telepath I 14.4k) on COM 1 IRQ 4. However, I still cannot access the modem once the system came up. Minicom 1.60, kermit, as well as comcontrol simply cannot open the serial port /dev/cua00. The only time that I can access the modem is to use the polling mode of the sio driver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stanley K. Cheong email : scheong@ece.uci.edu work phone: (714) 707-2389 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 02:52:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA17405 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 02:52:03 -0800 Received: from sun2.fzu.cz (sun2.fzu.cz [192.108.134.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA17396 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 02:52:00 -0800 Received: by sun2.fzu.cz id AA13765 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for _General questions on FreeBSD ); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:50:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:50:48 +0100 (MET) From: Pavel Wolf X-Sender: wolf@sun2 To: _General questions on FreeBSD Subject: SNMP ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know, if some of SNMP packages were ported successfuly to FreeBSD ? Thanks, Pavel ------------------------------------------------------- | Pavel Wolf e-mail: wolf@fzu.cz | | Institute of Physics phone : +42 2 24 31 11 37 | | Czech Acad. Sci. +42 2 66 05 26 13 | | Na Slovance 2 fax : +42 2 312 31 84 | | CZ-180 40 Praha 8 home : +42 2 627 89 26 | ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 03:22:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA18437 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 03:22:52 -0800 Received: from NS.netvision.net.il (root@ns.NetVision.net.il [192.114.201.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA18429 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 03:22:48 -0800 Received: from ugen.NetManage.co.il (ugen.netmanage.co.il [192.114.78.165]) by NS.netvision.net.il (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09715; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:22:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:23:04 PST From: "Ugen J.S.Antsilevich" Subject: RE: SNMP ? To: _General questions on FreeBSD , Pavel Wolf X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.00-Arm-25, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >Does anybody know, if some of SNMP packages were ported successfuly to >FreeBSD ? cmu-snmp works well without any porting.. >Thanks, > > Pavel > > >------------------------------------------------------- >| Pavel Wolf e-mail: wolf@fzu.cz | >| Institute of Physics phone : +42 2 24 31 11 37 | >| Czech Acad. Sci. +42 2 66 05 26 13 | >| Na Slovance 2 fax : +42 2 312 31 84 | >| CZ-180 40 Praha 8 home : +42 2 627 89 26 | >------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- -=Ugen J.S.Antsilevich=- NetVision - Israeli Commercial Internet | Learning E-mail: ugen@NetVision.net.il | To Fly. [c] Phone : +972-4-550330 | From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 04:28:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id EAA20164 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:28:41 -0800 Received: from wcarchive.cdrom.com (wcarchive.cdrom.com [192.216.191.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA20158 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:28:39 -0800 Received: from reply.net (reply.laurel.us.net [198.240.73.78]) by wcarchive.cdrom.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA07346 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 04:27:25 -0800 Received: (jbrogan@localhost) by reply.net (8.6.8/8.6.5) id HAA21396 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.cdrom.com; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 07:24:43 -0500 From: John Brogan Message-Id: <199501061224.HAA21396@reply.net> Subject: uucpd + TCP/IP To: freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 07:24:42 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 240 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does the uucpd that comes with FreeBSD1.1.5.1 support TCP/IP for transferring info from one box to the other? I can't find a man page for the uucpd and I'd like to give this a try. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks. John Brogan From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 06:01:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA23998 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 06:01:05 -0800 Received: from wcarchive.cdrom.com (wcarchive.cdrom.com [192.216.191.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA23990 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 06:01:04 -0800 Received: from nevis.oss.interact.net ([204.147.95.3]) by wcarchive.cdrom.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA20987 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 05:59:51 -0800 Received: (from greg@localhost) by nevis.oss.interact.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA29097 for freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:00:30 -0600 From: Greg Rowe Message-Id: <199501061400.IAA29097@nevis.oss.interact.net> Subject: FreeBSD as a Gateway To: freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:00:30 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 950 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm proposing to use a FreeBSD box as a gateway between a local subnet and a subnet open to the internet. I want to allow folks on the local subnet to have shell accounts and use internet applications on the FreeBSD box, but I also need to maintain the security on the local subnet. I take it from previous discussions, this is being done in a number of sites. I'm interested in finding out if those folks use any special software on FreeBSD for the security part (firewall code, wrappers, etc.) and if anyone has had any unusual problems doing this. Also, are there any tricks to running FreeBSD as a gateway ? I would like to use version 2.0 if possible. Thanks. -- Greg Rowe | US West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@mn.interact.net 111 Washington Ave. South | Minneapolis, MN USA 55401 | Voice: (612) 672-8535 To err is human, to really foul up requires the root password. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 06:45:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id GAA27437 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 06:45:02 -0800 Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA27424 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 06:44:59 -0800 Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:44:54 -0600 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:44:54 -0600 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199501061444.AA28186@plains.NoDak.edu> To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, ugen@netvision.net.il, wolf@fzu.cz Subject: RE: SNMP ? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Does anybody know, if some of SNMP packages were ported successfuly to > >FreeBSD ? > cmu-snmp works well without any porting.. which cmu-snmp and for which FreeBSD? --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 08:02:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA03800 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:02:25 -0800 Received: from mail1.bytex.network.com (mail1.bytex.network.com [129.191.225.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA03774 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:02:20 -0800 Received: from ws062 (ws062.bytex.network.com) by mail1.bytex.network.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01656; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:03:01 EST Received: from localhost by ws062 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01845; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:03:00 EST Message-Id: <9501061603.AA01845@ws062> To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: dusio@mail1.bytex.network.com Subject: Do we have PROLOG, LISP and REXX for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 11:03:00 -0500 From: dusio Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I need to do some NLP work in PROLOG. I usually implement in both PROLOG and LISP. I'm wondering if there has been a port of PROLOG, LISP and REXX to FreeBSD. If they were on the WalnutCreek CDROM, I missed them. I checked the WalnutCreek/FreeBSD ftp site too. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Dusio (dusio@bytex.network.com) CREDIT where credit is due... -------------------------------------------------------- I just purchased my FreeBSD cdrom. I am thrilled by the speed of a real 32-bit OS and the beauty and diversity of Xwindows. This is a significant work, which really puts MS* to shame. I'm finding that my fingers are just as happy on my home PC under FreeBSD as they are at work on my Sparc2. I should also mention that the questions@FreeBSD.com system is probably the most helpful and responsive problem resolution system I have come across. I found myself recommending FreeBSD to my friends at work. Kudos to you all. --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 08:55:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id IAA14140 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:55:36 -0800 Received: from egate.citicorp.com (egate.citicorp.com [192.193.195.194]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA14105 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:55:22 -0800 Received: by egate.citicorp.com id AA15337 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:54:48 GMT Received: by egate.citicorp.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:54:48 GMT From: Eric Maiwald Message-Id: <199501061654.LAA01804@maple.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com> Subject: Network Adaptors To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:54:47 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 651 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am in the process of trying to load Free BSD onto a Gateway 486/33 system. The system has an Intel Ethernet card. Are any of the Intel cards supported? Eric -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Maiwald email: Eric.Maiwald@citicorp.com Citicorp maiwald@dockmaster.ncsc.mil 1900 Campus Commons Drive voice: 703-708-1135 Reston, VA 22091 fax: 703-708-1184 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP 2.6 Public Key Available on Request From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 11:26:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA26805 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:26:57 -0800 Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA26797 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:26:55 -0800 Received: by plains.NoDak.edu; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:26:43 -0600 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:26:43 -0600 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199501061926.AA07551@plains.NoDak.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cmu snmp for freebsd 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I think this was the group the recent SNMP question was posted (I don't have the original requestor, and if someone could send it to me, I will write him in case he was not a regular subscriber). I questioned the version of CMU that compiles and runs cleanly on FreeBSD because I don't know any original CMU versions of SNMP that compiles and runs cleanly on FreeBSD. There were the copies CMU SNMP that I ported and placed on plains.NoDak.edu (134.129.111.64), but those were for FreeBSD 1.x. I started yesterday (really) to look at the arp code that needed to be changed to get the SNMP working on FreeBSD 2.x, and seeing the SNMP request earlier today was incentive for me to fix the arp code and also change to the correct kernel name. I have just completed changes, and I will re-bundle the tar file and place back it on plains.NoDak.edu later today (I am still looking at a bad kmem read). --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 14:24:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA04328 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:24:22 -0800 Received: from herman.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (herman.cmf.nrl.navy.mil [134.207.7.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04322 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:24:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (fenner@localhost) by herman.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA17531; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:22:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199501062222.RAA17531@herman.cmf.nrl.navy.mil> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.1 12/2/94 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Jon Falconer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM drivers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Jan 95 20:54:17 PST." <2681.789281657@time.cdrom.com> X-Face: -*.ZYbFWa}{2c8NmF| Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > BOCA and Digiboard come to mind. We supposedly support both, though I've > no direct experience with that. I wasn't aware of a Digiboard driver. I am working on an Arnet Smartport driver. It is going slowly only because I am lazy; Arnet supplied me with lots of neat documentation. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 14:46:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA04963 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:46:40 -0800 Received: from linc.cis.upenn.edu (root@LINC.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.12.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04957 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:46:39 -0800 Received: from chestnut.ling.upenn.edu (CHESTNUT.LING.UPENN.EDU [158.130.8.45]) by linc.cis.upenn.edu (8.6.9/UPenn 1.4) with SMTP id RAA13577; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:46:33 -0500 Received: by chestnut.ling.upenn.edu id AA26519; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:46:33 EST Posted-Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:46:32 EST Message-Id: <9501062246.AA26519@chestnut.ling.upenn.edu> From: "Henry S. Thompson" Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:46:32 EST To: "Stanley K. Cheong" Subject: Re: internal modem woes In-Reply-To: "Stanley K. Cheong"'s message of Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:18:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Could be the clocal problem documented in the FAQ. Try something like this: cat < /dev/tty01 & stty -f /dev/tty01 clocal tip tty01 Using your /dev/cua00 for /dev/tty01, of course. ht From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 15:41:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA06342 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:41:51 -0800 Received: from borris.khoros.unm.edu (borris.khoros.unm.edu [198.59.155.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA06336 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:41:49 -0800 Received: by borris.khoros.unm.edu (4.1/KHOROS/Feb 18 1994) id <9501062341.AA12078@borris.khoros.unm.edu>; Fri, 6 Jan 95 16:41:43 MST Posted-Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:41:43 MST Message-Id: <9501062341.AA12078@borris.khoros.unm.edu> From: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 16:41:43 MST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot install problem (2nd try) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I sent this once before, but appearently it was eaten while the mailing list was down.. On Jan 4, 19:08, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: } Subject: Re: Boot install problems >> > A friend of mine has gone through the install on a < 1GB drive, and >> > all this stuff just worked for him, so I'm thinking it has something >> > to do with the fact the partion layout stuff just doesn't work on >> > a hd that is too big. Has anyone that is using a > 1GB disk >> > gotten this multiboot thingy to work? >> >> You can enable the translation, just install DOS first, run the supplied >> pfdisk utility to verify the translation scheme that DOS is using, then >> install FreeBSD and use the (G)eometry option to specify this translated >> geometry. Piece of cake.. }-- End of excerpt from "Jordan K. Hubbard" After using dos's FDISK first, I was able to get the freebsd fdisk part of the install to correctly work on my first disk.. Now I have a boot menu, and selecting freebsd correctly boots freebsd. Unfortunately, it is the ONLY menu option. I doesn't give me the option to boot the second disk (the one with dos on it). While messing with this problem, I discovered that if you hit F5 anyway, it will still try to boot drive 2. Anyway, when it does try to boot drive 2, it either gives the freebsd prompt where you type sd(0,a)/kernel, or it gives me the DOS error "Not a system disk or disk error ...." The second disk is completely dedicated to DOS, and it is a little over 200meg in size. Anyway, I've tried several different combinations, including refdisking the dos disk and installing the boot menu on the second disk as well. Nothing works, I still get one of the two errors I explained above. Am I missing something? BTW, I would put the first problem I had into a FAQ. The instructions say to make sure that the geometry's for dos and freebsd agree, but it doesn't say you should use dos' fdisk to set the geometry in the first place. Any help appreciated.. Steve -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen | Khoral Research Inc. steve@khoros.unm.edu | 6001 Indian School, Suite 200 (505) 837-6500 | Albuquerque, NM 87110 ------------------------+------------------------------------ This Space for Rent. | URL: http://www.khoros.unm.edu ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 17:19:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA10835 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:19:38 -0800 Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (libws2.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.86]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA10828 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:19:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199501070119.RAA10828@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:19:25 -0500 From: Not On Our Customer File Subject: extracting XFree86 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:19:22 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: It was suggested to me that I break out of the sysinstall program to install Xfree86 (my PC hangs during extraction ...) and do it manually via sh extract.sh This was to have been done in the XFree86 dir. How do I get to the CDROM which does not come up as a device file ? i.e. can we get a bit more explicit ... Thanx, Bill Paladino From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 17:25:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA10984 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:25:56 -0800 Received: from picspc01.pics.com (picspc01.pics.com [192.135.189.20]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA10976 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:25:53 -0800 Received: (from tpr@localhost) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA13648 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:37:26 GMT From: Terry Rossi Message-Id: <199501062037.UAA13648@picspc01.pics.com> Subject: Out of Inodes - Please Help To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:37:24 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 538 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just turned on a newsfeed (I know that was my first problem) and the filesystem with /spool/news is out of inodes, can someone point me in the right direction, I cannot seem to figure it out. Thanks Terry -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Terry Rossi tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 | | Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com| | 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 6 23:56:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id XAA17359 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 23:56:58 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA17353 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 23:56:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA20169; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 23:56:40 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: dusio cc: questions@freebsd.org, dusio@mail1.bytex.network.com Subject: Re: Do we have PROLOG, LISP and REXX for FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Jan 95 11:03:00 EST." <9501061603.AA01845@ws062> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 23:56:39 -0800 Message-ID: <20168.789465399@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I need to do some NLP work in PROLOG. I usually > implement in both PROLOG and LISP. I'm wondering if > there has been a port of PROLOG, LISP and REXX to FreeBSD. > If they were on the WalnutCreek CDROM, I missed them. I > checked the WalnutCreek/FreeBSD ftp site too. For lisp, you're in pretty good hands. Look in the FreeBSD ports collection under ports/lang: CVS Sather forth p2c tcl Makefile bison itcl schemetoc tclX STk expect logo scm You'll see schemetoc and scheme, which are both fairly nice and comprehensive scheme development environments (I believe the E-Z-Draw library uses schemetoc to compile itself to native code). STk is another scheme environment. Nothing for prolog, though I don't imagine that Edinburg prolog would be too much trouble to port! We're still missing a few ports from our 1.x days! :( Thanks for the kind words! Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 02:12:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA18839 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:12:39 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA18832 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:12:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA25637; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:12:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Not On Our Customer File cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extracting XFree86 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Jan 95 20:19:22 EST." <199501070119.RAA10828@freefall.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 02:12:17 -0800 Message-ID: <25636.789473537@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > It was suggested to me that I break out of the sysinstall > program to install Xfree86 (my PC hangs during extraction ...) and > do it manually via sh extract.sh You should just reinstall and hit ALT-F2 when you come to the X installation. It's waiting for you over there. > This was to have been done in the XFree86 dir. How > do I get to the CDROM which does not come up as a device file ? > i.e. can we get a bit more explicit ... mount /dev/cd0a /mnt cd /mnt/XFree86-3.1/ sh ./extract.sh Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 02:15:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id CAA18874 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:15:24 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA18868 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:15:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA25696; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 02:15:08 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Terry Rossi cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of Inodes - Please Help In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Jan 95 20:37:24 GMT." <199501062037.UAA13648@picspc01.pics.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 02:15:06 -0800 Message-ID: <25695.789473706@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I just turned on a newsfeed (I know that was my first problem) > and the filesystem with /spool/news is out of inodes, can someone > point me in the right direction, I cannot seem to figure it out. News spools don't constitute the expected kinds of file-to-free-blocks ratios that newfs is set up to expect, and you need a lot more inodes than usual for a news spool. You'll need to backup your news and rebuild the partition from scratch using a lower value for -i. See man newfs for details (I recommend -i 1024, myself). Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 03:02:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA20185 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:02:17 -0800 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA20177 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:02:15 -0800 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA26453 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:02:01 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs31.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs31.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs31.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs31.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:00:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 06:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: Seth Andrew Covitz To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: X-Server for MATROX Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Has anyone developed or know where I could obtain an X-Server package for the MATROX MGA Series of Graphics Adapters. I can user the VGA16 Server that comes with XFree86-3.1, but I'd like to use a higher resolution. (Matrox is not based on any of the other chips given in the documentation). If noone knows of the existence of such a package, can someone point me to where I could begin to make my own... Thanks, Seth A. Covitz seth@cmu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 03:17:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id DAA20464 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:17:38 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA20458 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:17:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA26148; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:17:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Seth Andrew Covitz cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: X-Server for MATROX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 95 06:00:58 EST." Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 03:17:18 -0800 Message-ID: <26146.789477438@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Send mail to info@xinside.com. $99 for very nice Matrox support! Jordan > Hello, > > Has anyone developed or know where I could obtain an X-Server > package for the MATROX MGA Series of Graphics Adapters. > > I can user the VGA16 Server that comes with XFree86-3.1, but I'd > like to use a higher resolution. (Matrox is not based on any of the > other chips given in the documentation). > > If noone knows of the existence of such a package, can someone point > me to where I could begin to make my own... > > Thanks, > > Seth A. Covitz > seth@cmu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 05:36:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id FAA12885 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:36:28 -0800 Received: from sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.47]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA12879 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:36:26 -0800 Received: from starkhome.UUCP (root@localhost) by sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id IAA11658 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 08:33:51 -0500 Received: by starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.9/1.34) id FAA01689; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:18:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 05:18:30 -0500 From: starkhome!gene@sbstark.cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark) Message-Id: <199501071018.FAA01689@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> To: Terry Rossi In-reply-to: Terry Rossi's message of Fri, 6 Jan 1995 20:37:24 +0000 () Subject: Out of Inodes - Please Help Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I just turned on a newsfeed (I know that was my first problem) >and the filesystem with /spool/news is out of inodes, can someone >point me in the right direction, I cannot seem to figure it out. Inodes are entities on the disk that point to where file data lives. There is one inode for each file and directory on the disk. Being out of inodes is one way in which your disk can become full; the other is running out of data blocks. When a partition is high-level formatted using "newfs", a certain number of inodes are created, based on the assumption that the average size of a file is 2K bytes. For news directories, this is a bit too large, which will cause you to run out of inodes before running out of data blocks. What you need to do is reformat your news spool partition using, say: newfs -i 1024 /dev/xxxxx where xxxxx is the name of the device on which your news is mounted. This will make the assumption that each file is 1K bytes instead of 2K. It goes without saying that the above command will erase all data on that filesystem partition, so if you want anything there you have to back it up first. - Gene Stark From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 09:59:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id JAA22843 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 09:59:55 -0800 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22833 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 09:59:54 -0800 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA14717 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:59:41 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs33.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs33.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs33.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs33.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:57 -0500 (EST) From: Seth Andrew Covitz To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Mwm for FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know where the source is? Thanks, Seth A. Covitz seth@cmu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 10:58:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA23253 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 10:58:13 -0800 Received: from smile.clinet.fi (smile.clinet.fi [193.64.6.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA23245 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 10:58:09 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by smile.clinet.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA06224; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:52:01 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:52:01 +0200 From: Heikki Suonsivu Message-Id: <199501071852.UAA06224@smile.clinet.fi> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Uh Reply-To: Heikki Suonsivu Organization: Helsinki University Of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please don't forget this in 2.1 release, # Note that, unlike most similar systems, the FreeBSD SCSI system # does not wire a particular device unit number to any specific # SCSI bus unit number. Rather, unit numbers are assigned in the # order that the devices are found on the SCSI bus. (This means that # if you remove a disk drive, you may have to rewrite your /etc/fstab # file.) It is expected that this will change for FreeBSD 2.1. I'm pretty sure it would be easier to explain the insurance company that "the box of dynamite the machine was standing on exploded" than "I forgot to power up the disk containing /tmp and got /users mounted there instead." [I can't figure out how linux people can live with this. And I certainly didn't expect BSD to pick up this booby-trap] -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 11:15:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA23371 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:15:15 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA23364 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:15:05 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12225; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:16:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199501071916.MAA12225@clem.systemsix.com> To: Seth Andrew Covitz cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, fbsd@clem.systemsix.com Subject: Re: Mwm for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 1995 12:58:57 EST." Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 12:16:09 -0700 From: Steve Passe Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know > where the source is? Mwm is "owned" by the Open Software Foundation. You have to license source from them, for a fairly hefty fee. I have switched to fvwm, which I believe to be better in most respects. I think it is somewhere in the freeBSD tree, I started with sources from I forget where... This is a replacement for mwm only, not the required libraries to write motif applications. There are rumors of several projects to clone the motif libs, I would be grateful if anyone could steer me to an ftp site for any of them... Steve Passe smp@csn.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 11:21:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA23551 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:21:14 -0800 Received: from bos1a.delphi.com (SYSTEM@bos1a.delphi.com [192.80.63.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA23537 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:21:09 -0800 From: MAPLER@delphi.com Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HLKGDI71TS94J034@delphi.com>; Sat, 07 Jan 1995 14:20:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 14:20:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: doubleclicking, cxref, cflow,... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HLKGDI71TU94J034@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a couple of questions. First, is there any way to modify the time sensitivity for doubleclickinee86? I have looked at the FAQs, xset, apropos, etc and have not found ything. Second, where can I find cxref, cflow, ctree, etc for FreeBSD. Thanks for any info, Raymond C. Maple BTW, sorry if this message looks strange. This is the first time I have used this mailer, and I am not sure where the margins are! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 11:35:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA24650 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:35:29 -0800 Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu (PO4.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.11.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24642 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:35:28 -0800 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA09113 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:35:02 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs35.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcs35.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Nov..4.1993.10.47.44.sun4c.411.EzMail.PC.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs35.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.pcs35.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:24 -0500 (EST) From: Seth Andrew Covitz To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Tcl/Tk for FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone ported Tcl/Tk to FreeBSD/x386. I know it was ported to DOS/Windows/WinNT, already... Thanks, Seth A. Covitz seth@cmu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 11:54:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA24958 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:54:10 -0800 Received: from bsd.coe.montana.edu (bsd.coe.montana.edu [153.90.192.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24952 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:54:09 -0800 Received: (nate@localhost) by bsd.coe.montana.edu (8.6.8/8.3) id MAA16842; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:58:27 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199501071958.MAA16842@bsd.coe.montana.edu> In-Reply-To: Seth Andrew Covitz "Mwm for FreeBSD" (Jan 7, 12:58pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Seth Andrew Covitz , freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Mwm for FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know > where the source is? Yes, but you since it's copyrighted/licensed software from OSF it costs money for the binaries, and and even greater amount of money for the sources. See the FreeBSD FAQ for the Motif supplier's name and contact information. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 11:59:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id LAA25036 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:59:49 -0800 Received: from heather.greatbasin.com (heather.greatbasin.com [140.174.194.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA25030 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:59:48 -0800 Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by heather.greatbasin.com (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA13146 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 11:59:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199501071959.LAA13146@heather.greatbasin.com> X-Sender: Pwinky@mail.greatbasin.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 12:36:35 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood) Subject: SLIP problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to setup SLIP with minor success. The latest problem involves the following error: sendto: No route to host To make this happen, I do the startslip, run trn, and ftp to any site. After a few minutes, my RXD light on my modem stops. I'll try restarting the ftp session and get the error. However, if I try and ftp to the internet provider it works. With ping, the name gets resolved to an IP number, but the error comes up for any host. A related issue is when I started the SLIP account I was told to set my max MTU to 296. I did so in netstart for the ifconfig line for sl0. Also, the TCP MSS is supposed to be set to 256. Where is this set? The internet provider said that Linux does this automaticly. Other than that, SLIP is working. It's definitly a step-up from a shell account. =) EVB From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 12:01:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA25063 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:01:39 -0800 Received: from bsd.coe.montana.edu (bsd.coe.montana.edu [153.90.192.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25057 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 12:01:38 -0800 Received: (nate@localhost) by bsd.coe.montana.edu (8.6.8/8.3) id NAA16929; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 13:05:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 13:05:53 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199501072005.NAA16929@bsd.coe.montana.edu> In-Reply-To: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood) "SLIP problems" (Jan 6, 12:36pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SLIP problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > To make this happen, I do the startslip, run trn, and ftp to any site. After > a few minutes, my RXD light on my modem stops. I'll try restarting the ftp > session and get the error. However, if I try and ftp to the internet provider > it works. With ping, the name gets resolved to an IP number, but the error > comes up for any host. Make sure you disable software flow control on BOTH ends of the SLIP connection. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 13:11:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA27736 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 13:11:42 -0800 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27730 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 13:11:40 -0800 Received: from state.eng.umd.edu (state.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.131]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA08073 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:11:30 -0500 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by state.eng.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) id QAA08404; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:11:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: printing probs (again!) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, at least this'll be different than the usual run of printing problems. I'm trying to get printing working from the andrew auis-6.3. When I get that working, I will decide that's far enough, and turn what I've got into a port, but there's a few strange sticking points I'm hitting, that may or may not even be related to auis. The one I'm going to ask you guys is this: I'm hosting the auis stuff on journey2, my 2.0 machine, and the printer on n3lxx, my 1.1.5.1 machine. I have got the printcap on journey2 sending requests to n3lxx, where they seem to be printing fine, but when a request comes from auis, to the journey2 daemon, then to n3lxx to be printed, it causes the lpd daemon on n3lxx to dump core. I noticed that all requests from journey2 to print get to n3lxx /usr/spool/lpd spooling directory as df* files owned by root, but the files that I lpr locally on n3lxx to the n3lxx printer are owned by the user making the request (that's my non-root name, chuckr). Other than that, I can't see anything weird, bcause I can take the file that causes the printer to choke and copy it to /tmp, then if chuckr prints them locally on n3lxx, they print fine (nothing in the file is strange). I should add, my printer is postscript. Anyone got any thoughts on why root should own all print requests from journey2 to n3lxx? Or why else a print request might cause lpd to dump core? Thanks, guys. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 14:19:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA29018 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:19:09 -0800 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29012 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:19:07 -0800 Received: from modem.eng.umd.edu (modem.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.187]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA08625 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:18:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by modem.eng.umd.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA17765; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:18:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:18:58 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing probs (again!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, Chuck Robey wrote: > Well, at least this'll be different than the usual run of printing > problems. I'm trying to get printing working from the andrew auis-6.3. > When I get that working, I will decide that's far enough, and turn what > I've got into a port, but there's a few strange sticking points I'm > hitting, that may or may not even be related to auis. > > The one I'm going to ask you guys is this: I'm hosting the auis stuff on > journey2, my 2.0 machine, and the printer on n3lxx, my 1.1.5.1 machine. > I have got the printcap on journey2 sending requests to n3lxx, where they > seem to be printing fine, but when a request comes from auis, to the > journey2 daemon, then to n3lxx to be printed, it causes the lpd daemon on > n3lxx to dump core. I noticed that all requests from journey2 to print > get to n3lxx /usr/spool/lpd spooling directory as df* files owned by > root, but the files that I lpr locally on n3lxx to the n3lxx printer are > owned by the user making the request (that's my non-root name, chuckr). > Other than that, I can't see anything weird, bcause I can take the file > that causes the printer to choke and copy it to /tmp, then if chuckr > prints them locally on n3lxx, they print fine (nothing in the file is > strange). > > I should add, my printer is postscript. Anyone got any thoughts on why > root should own all print requests from journey2 to n3lxx? Or why else > a print request might cause lpd to dump core? I found it 30 minutes after the post, thanks anyhow! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:14:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA29894 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:14:07 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29888 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:14:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA29519; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:13:58 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Seth Andrew Covitz cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Mwm for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 95 12:58:57 EST." Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 15:13:58 -0800 Message-ID: <29518.789520438@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is proprietary OSF source code. And yes, I have used it! > Hi, > > Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know > where the source is? > > Thanks, > > Seth A. Covitz > seth@cmu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:22:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00323 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:22:49 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA00295; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:21:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA29562; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:20:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Heikki Suonsivu cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Uh In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 95 20:52:01 +0200." <199501071852.UAA06224@smile.clinet.fi> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 15:20:59 -0800 Message-ID: <29561.789520859@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > # Note that, unlike most similar systems, the FreeBSD SCSI system > # does not wire a particular device unit number to any specific > # SCSI bus unit number. Rather, unit numbers are assigned in the > # order that the devices are found on the SCSI bus. (This means that > # if you remove a disk drive, you may have to rewrite your /etc/fstab > # file.) It is expected that this will change for FreeBSD 2.1. For 2.1, yes, this needs to die. Shall we begin the arguments again NOW, and save time later? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:38:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00554 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:38:14 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.223.46]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA00547 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:38:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA29685; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:37:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: time.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing probs (again!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 95 16:11:28 EST." Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 15:37:53 -0800 Message-ID: <29684.789521873@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This may seem a strange request, but can you try the reverse and tell us what happens? E.g. hook your printer to journey2, bring up the 1.x port of AUIS on n3lxx, try printing on n3lxx and see if lpd on journey2 either croaks or deals with it! lpd was one of those things brought over from the 4.4 sources, and if they've fixed it here then you can perhaps take the fix back to the 1.x version. If they haven't, we need to know that too! Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:50:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00689 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:50:46 -0800 Received: from is1.hk.super.net (jbeukema@is1.hk.super.net [202.14.67.232]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA00683 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:50:43 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA15642 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 07:50:12 +0800 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 07:50:11 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: Nate Williams Cc: Eric Blood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SLIP problems In-Reply-To: <199501072005.NAA16929@bsd.coe.montana.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem. On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, Nate Williams wrote: > > To make this happen, I do the startslip, run trn, and ftp to any site. After > > a few minutes, my RXD light on my modem stops. I'll try restarting the ftp > > session and get the error. However, if I try and ftp to the internet provider > > it works. With ping, the name gets resolved to an IP number, but the error > > comes up for any host. > > Make sure you disable software flow control on BOTH ends of the SLIP > connection. > > > Nate > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:53:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00721 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:53:01 -0800 Received: from bsd.coe.montana.edu (bsd.coe.montana.edu [153.90.192.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA00715 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:52:59 -0800 Received: (nate@localhost) by bsd.coe.montana.edu (8.6.8/8.3) id QAA17953; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:57:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:57:05 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199501072357.QAA17953@bsd.coe.montana.edu> In-Reply-To: John Beukema "Re: SLIP problems" (Jan 8, 7:50am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: John Beukema Subject: Re: SLIP problems Cc: Eric Blood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have the same problem. Does that mean you have a flow-control problem, or what? Also, this kind of problem happened to me when I was using compressed SLIP and my provider wasn't. Small packets made it through but the bigger packets didn't. Weird. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:57:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00781 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:57:32 -0800 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA00769 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:57:30 -0800 Received: from state.eng.umd.edu (state.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.131]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA09396; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:57:20 -0500 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by state.eng.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) id SAA08793; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:57:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: printing probs (again!) In-Reply-To: <29684.789521873@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > This may seem a strange request, but can you try the reverse and tell us > what happens? > > E.g. hook your printer to journey2, bring up the 1.x port of AUIS on > n3lxx, try printing on n3lxx and see if lpd on journey2 either croaks > or deals with it! > > lpd was one of those things brought over from the 4.4 sources, and if > they've fixed it here then you can perhaps take the fix back to the > 1.x version. If they haven't, we need to know that too! I found that the suggested route the Anddrew documentation suggested was using lpr -v. When I changed that to lpr with no switch, it worked fine. I almost have the auis stuff working, the groff stuff is a final sticking point I'm working on. I'll be worrying about the port just as soon as I finish this last step. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 15:57:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA00780 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:57:32 -0800 Received: from is1.hk.super.net (jbeukema@is1.hk.super.net [202.14.67.232]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA00766 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 15:57:28 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA15786 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 07:57:05 +0800 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 07:57:05 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: Nate Williams Cc: Eric Blood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SLIP problems In-Reply-To: <199501072005.NAA16929@bsd.coe.montana.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem. On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, Nate Williams wrote: > > To make this happen, I do the startslip, run trn, and ftp to any site. After > > a few minutes, my RXD light on my modem stops. I'll try restarting the ftp > > session and get the error. However, if I try and ftp to the internet provider > > it works. With ping, the name gets resolved to an IP number, but the error > > comes up for any host. > > Make sure you disable software flow control on BOTH ends of the SLIP > connection. why? > > > Nate > In my case I thought up to now that the problem was due to running a secondary name server and having named fail to exchange information with the provider, time out and delete the route to the gateway. try route flush, kill the routed process and start routed again. If it works again for a while you have the same problem I have. If I find a solution, I will let you know. jbeukema From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 16:08:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA00906 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:08:30 -0800 Received: from bsd.coe.montana.edu (bsd.coe.montana.edu [153.90.192.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA00900 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:08:28 -0800 Received: (nate@localhost) by bsd.coe.montana.edu (8.6.8/8.3) id RAA18007; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:12:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:12:30 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199501080012.RAA18007@bsd.coe.montana.edu> In-Reply-To: John Beukema "Re: SLIP problems" (Jan 8, 7:57am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: John Beukema Subject: Re: SLIP problems Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Make sure you disable software flow control on BOTH ends of the SLIP > > connection. > > why? Since SLIP/PPP are 8-bit connections, it's possible (probable) that you will send data that looks like XON/XOFF through the pipe which will cause the modems to stop sending data. You need hardware flow control enabled instead. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 16:12:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id QAA00961 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:12:05 -0800 Received: from ic.sunysb.edu (libws2.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.86]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA00955 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:12:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199501080012.QAA00955@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: by libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu; Sat, 7 Jan 95 19:11:49 -0500 From: Not On Our Customer File Subject: enclosed ... To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 19:11:47 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: 1. System shutdown via "shutdown now" does not get to a message such as "You may power the system off". Instead you are prompted for the path of a shell or as default but the system will reboot if any key board activity follows; eg. exit. No shutting down crontab. 2. CDROM case proclaims JPEG, XView, emacs, ghostscript etc. *** BUT they're not there ... where are the adver. utiliies ? -- Bill Paladino From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 17:01:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA01998 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:01:03 -0800 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01992 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:01:00 -0800 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id TAA09126; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:50:56 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199501080050.TAA09126@hda.com> Subject: Re: Mwm for FreeBSD To: fbsd@clem.systemsix.com (Steve Passe) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:50:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: sc67+@andrew.cmu.edu, freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, fbsd@clem.systemsix.com In-Reply-To: <199501071916.MAA12225@clem.systemsix.com> from "Steve Passe" at Jan 7, 95 12:16:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1154 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe writes: > > > > Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know > > where the source is? > > > Mwm is "owned" by the Open Software Foundation. You have to license > source from them, for a fairly hefty fee. ... >From that well of information, the /usr/share/FAQ directory, "grep -i motif" gives us a good hit in FreeBSD.FAQ: > 3.1: Where can I get Motif for FreeBSD? > > Sequoia International provides commercial quality Motif 1.2.3 > development kits for FreeBSD 1.1 (with full shared library support) > under the product name of `SWiM'. Due to licensing restrictions from > the OSF, and the fact that Sequoia needs to make a living, these are > NOT FREE, but nonetheless quite reasonably priced in comparison to > many other commercial Motif distributions. Send electronic mail to > for further information. I bet these folks can help you out with mwm. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 -- Formerly hd@world.std.com. E-mail problems? Tell hdslip@iii.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 17:26:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA02352 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:26:42 -0800 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA02346 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:26:41 -0800 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id RAA04619; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:26:10 -0800 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa02050; 7 Jan 95 18:21 PST Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA28276; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:01:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:01:07 -0800 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199501080101.RAA28276@Grizzly.COM> To: sc67+@andrew.cmu.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-reply-to: (message from Seth Andrew Covitz on Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:34:24 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk for FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone ported Tcl/Tk to FreeBSD/x386. I know it was ported to >DOS/Windows/WinNT, already... Tcl/Tk/TclX are all pretty straight forward to get working on FreeBSD 2.0. I believe they are in the ports directory on ftp.freebsd.org. The only major problem is the msun math library that is shipped as libm on FreeBSD 2.0. Math library errors generate SIGFPE rather than calling matherr or returning NaN. This causes the test to core dump. I grabbed the libm source from the FreeBSD source dist and used it rather than msun to get around these problems. Please feel free to contact me directly if you (or anyone else) has problems with Tcl on FreeBSD. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 17:50:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA02746 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:50:18 -0800 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA02740 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:50:17 -0800 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; id AA09333; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:49:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:49:55 -0500 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9501080149.AA09333@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Not On Our Customer File Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: enclosed ... In-Reply-To: <199501080012.QAA00955@freefall.cdrom.com> References: <199501080012.QAA00955@freefall.cdrom.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > 1. System shutdown via "shutdown now" does not get to > a message such as "You may power the system off". > Instead you are prompted for the path of a shell or > as default but the system will reboot if any key > board activity follows; eg. exit. No shutting down crontab. That is a bug. That is to say, `shutdown now' should put you into single-user mode, and the shell path prompt is the first stage of that, but rebooting when you try to type the name of a shell is clearly bogus. Please send a bug report using the `send-pr' command. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 17:55:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA02869 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:55:13 -0800 Received: from nile.intac.com (root@nile.intac.com [198.6.114.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA02863 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 17:55:11 -0800 From: rjb@intac.com Received: from [198.6.114.60] (slip-ppp10.intac.com [198.6.114.60]) by nile.intac.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA01365 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:54:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:54:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199501080154.UAA01365@nile.intac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't get FreeBSD 2.0 to see my ethernet card. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've just installed FreeBSD 2.0 on my 33Mhz 486 Gatewary box. Everything is running fine *except* I can't seem to get the OS to see my 3com 3c503 card. I read the release notes, noted FreeBSD FAQ #8.4 and went out and got the O'Reilly book on BSD. From what I read my /etc/netstart file handles the ifconfig'ing for me, assumming the autoconfigure probe sees an interface that's supported and present. During the initial boot phase I see 'ed0 not found at 0x280' and 'ed1 not found at 0x300'. I've check my kernel configuration file and the pseudo-device ether is definitely set along with 'ed0' and 'ed1'. Coming from a System V background, this handling of the network interface is somewhat baffling 8-/ Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Bob From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 18:01:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA02977 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:01:14 -0800 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA02971 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:01:04 -0800 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA18256; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:00:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA00675; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:00:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199501080200.SAA00675@corbin.Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: corbin.Root.COM: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: rjb@intac.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't get FreeBSD 2.0 to see my ethernet card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 95 20:54:57 EST." <199501080154.UAA01365@nile.intac.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 18:00:46 -0800 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >that's supported and present. During the initial boot phase I see 'ed0 not >found at 0x280' and 'ed1 not found at 0x300'. I've check my kernel >configuration file and the pseudo-device ether is definitely set along with >'ed0' and 'ed1'. Coming from a System V background, this handling of the What I/O address is your card set to? -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 18:41:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA04622 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:41:24 -0800 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.atinc.com [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA04616 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 18:41:21 -0800 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id VAA26316; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:39:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:39:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Can't get FreeBSD 2.0 to see my ethernet card. To: rjb@intac.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199501080154.UAA01365@nile.intac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Jan 1995 rjb@intac.com wrote: > I've just installed FreeBSD 2.0 on my 33Mhz 486 Gatewary box. Everything is > running fine *except* I can't seem to get the OS to see my 3com 3c503 card. ^^^^^^^^^^ _____________________________________________________________|||||||||| this card uses the ep driver not the ed driver. to use the utp port, add 'link2' to the ifconfig arguments use ioaddr 0x300 and irq 10--if this is problematic, use the -c flag at boot time. at the 'config>' prompt, type '?' to get the help screen and set the ioaddr/port and irq as required for the card. you'll have to do this every time you reboot the machine until you build a kernel with the ep driver set to the location you need > I read the release notes, noted FreeBSD FAQ #8.4 and went out and got the > O'Reilly book on BSD. From what I read my /etc/netstart file handles the > ifconfig'ing for me, assumming the autoconfigure probe sees an interface > that's supported and present. During the initial boot phase I see 'ed0 not > found at 0x280' and 'ed1 not found at 0x300'. I've check my kernel > configuration file and the pseudo-device ether is definitely set along with > 'ed0' and 'ed1'. Coming from a System V background, this handling of the > network interface is somewhat baffling 8-/ > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! > Bob > > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 19:01:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id TAA05155 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:01:06 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA05137 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:00:53 -0800 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA13690 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:02:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199501080302.UAA13690@clem.systemsix.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Mwm for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jan 1995 19:50:55 EST." <199501080050.TAA09126@hda.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 20:02:07 -0700 From: Steve Passe Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > Has anyone ever used Mwm on FreeBSD, and if you have, do you know >> > where the source is? .... >> Sequoia International provides commercial quality Motif 1.2.3 >> development kits for FreeBSD 1.1 (with full shared library support) >> under the product name of `SWiM'. .... >>I bet these folks can help you out with mwm. I purchased this product and am very happy with it. Sequoia provided good service when I had trouble (OSF doc in error, not their fault). But this doesn't get him source. BTW, if using the version for X11R5 (I don't know if Sequoia has shipped for X11R6 yet) the install wacks Imake.tmpl and needs mods to Motif.tmpl to work. I can provide crude patches for this if anyone need them... Steve Passe smp@csn.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 19:09:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id TAA05510 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:09:51 -0800 Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA05502 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:09:44 -0800 Received: from g386bsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04624; Sun, 8 Jan 95 04:08:13 +0100 Received: by g386bsd.first.gmd.de (EAA16966); Sun, 8 Jan 1995 04:10:24 +0100 From: Andreas Schulz Message-Id: <199501080310.EAA16966@g386bsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: Re: Can't get FreeBSD 2.0 to see my ethernet card. To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 04:10:24 +0059 (MET) Cc: rjb@intac.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 7, 95 09:39:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 689 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I've just installed FreeBSD 2.0 on my 33Mhz 486 Gatewary box. Everything is > > running fine *except* I can't seem to get the OS to see my 3com 3c503 card. > ^^^^^^^^^^ > _____________________________________________________________|||||||||| > > this card uses the ep driver not the ed driver. Sorry to correct you, but the 3C503 is supported by the ed driver. The ep driver only handles the 3C509 and 3C579 cards :-). ATS ( ats@first.gmd.de or ats@cs.tu-berlin.de ) Andreas Schulz GMD-FIRST 12489 Berlin-Adlershof Rudower Chaussee 5 Gebaeude 13.7 Tel: +49-30-6392-1856/+49-177-2134745 Germany/Europe From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 19:24:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id TAA05998 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:24:21 -0800 Received: from glueserv1.umd.edu (glueserv1.umd.edu [129.2.70.69]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA05988 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 19:24:18 -0800 Received: from harmonic.eng.umd.edu (harmonic.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.128]) by glueserv1.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA10819; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:24:07 -0500 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by harmonic.eng.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA27114; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:24:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:24:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Not On Our Customer File cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: enclosed ... In-Reply-To: <199501080012.QAA00955@freefall.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, Not On Our Customer File wrote: > Hi: > 1. System shutdown via "shutdown now" does not get to > a message such as "You may power the system off". > Instead you are prompted for the path of a shell or > as default but the system will reboot if any key > board activity follows; eg. exit. No shutting down crontab. shutdown moves you to single user, great for maintenance items like messing with your libararies. shutdown -r does a reset shutdown -h does the halt All of them need a time parameter, like "now". > > 2. CDROM case proclaims JPEG, XView, emacs, ghostscript etc. > > *** BUT they're not there ... > where are the adver. utiliies ? > -- Bill Paladino > Take a look at packages directory, try it with the pkg_info and pkg_add commands, you'll love it (do it as root!). These are pre-compiled binaries, and the pkg_xxx commands do all the installation dirty work for you. Don't forget, after you've added the neat packages you'll find, to do a rehash command so your shell session can find them..... ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 7608 Topton St. | New Carrollton, MD 20784 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0) and n3lxx (301) 459-2316 | (FreeBSD 1.1.5.1) and am I happy! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 7 21:02:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id VAA08820 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:02:30 -0800 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA08812 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:02:29 -0800 Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA21437; Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:34:21 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199501080534.VAA21437@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Can't get FreeBSD 2.0 to see my ethernet card. To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:34:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: rjb@intac.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 7, 95 09:39:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 919 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > On Sat, 7 Jan 1995 rjb@intac.com wrote: > > > I've just installed FreeBSD 2.0 on my 33Mhz 486 Gatewary box. Everything is > > running fine *except* I can't seem to get the OS to see my 3com 3c503 card. > ^^^^^^^^^^ > _____________________________________________________________|||||||||| > > this card uses the ep driver not the ed driver. That would be the 3c509 or 3c579. The 3c503 does in fact use the ed driver > > > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. > | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy > play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 > ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 > > -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ==============================================