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Browsing along on Matrox web page , I noticed this:

http://www.matrox.com/imgweb/tech_faq.htm#7.


       21. Are there Meteor drivers available for Linux and FreeBSD? 
       Yes, drivers are available, but not from Matrox. MATROX DOES NOT OFFER SUPPORT FOR LINUX OR
       FREEBSD. 
       See http://www.xinside.com for the driver for Linux. 
       See http://www.freebsd.org for the driver for FreeBSD. 
       For more information regarding support for the Meteor under these operating systems check:
       http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~bah6f/matrox/


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From: David Nugent <davidn@sdev.blaze.net.au>
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Anyone know of any docs on the xterm emulation? Specifically, the
escape sequences and so forth.

Thanks in advance.

David Nugent, Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia
Voice +61-3-791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet
davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn


From owner-freebsd-chat  Sun Sep 22 15:32:05 1996
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I'm trying to give back to the community that has made my job a lot
easier.  I'm trying to set up a set of "guide" pages for setting up a web
server using FreeBSD and Apache, including any areas that the documents
didn't make things clear to me.  Check out

	http://pandora.bfd.com/guides/guides.html 

for the general idea, and specifically the Introduction section on
FreeBSD (the only part which is fleshed out so far).  I'm sure I've got
misconceptions in there. I'd also like to hear from anyone that thinks I'm
missing an important area.

The idea isn't to provide a full tutorial from start to finish, but to
provide pointers to the various resources (FreeBSD, Apache, etc), and an
overview of the process, including any personal insight.

Any feedback is welcome, though if your feedback is "don't bother" without
suggesting another direction to help, it probably won't affect me much :-)

Also, is chat the appropriate list for this?


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> I'm trying to give back to the community that has made my job a lot
> easier.  I'm trying to set up a set of "guide" pages for setting up a web
> server using FreeBSD and Apache, including any areas that the documents
> didn't make things clear to me.  Check out
> 
> 	http://pandora.bfd.com/guides/guides.html 

They look pretty good!  A few points of feedback, however:

1. You're referring to split handbook sections directly, e.g.:
	http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook101.html
   and this will break if something is added/deleted in the
   handbook and the number of pieces changes.  You should refer
   to sections by symbolic tag, e.g.:
	http://www.freebsd.org./handbook/hw.html

   If you look through the SGML sources in /usr/src/share/doc/handbook,
   you'll see <label> tags which denote the sections which can be referred to
   directly in this fasthion.

2. Have you considred submitting this as a tutorial to the FreeBSD
   Documentation Project?  Such would get your text bundled with the
   standard doc system and be far more accessible to FreeBSD users
   everywhere.

3. It is incorrect to say that Linux is "POSIX based."  What it is
   is widely POSIX _compliant_, just as FreeBSD can claim to be in several
   areas (but not all or in as many as Linux).  Linux is not based on
   any existing technology, to my knowledge, and POSIX is a standard,
   not a code base.

4. "Linux is constantly changing, and I find that the man pages, which ..."
   Looks like the writer fell over in midsentence somewhere. :-)


You might want to pursue this in the doc@freebsd.org mailing list.

Thanks!

						Jordan

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   In order to get our various fast ethernet drivers working in full duplex
mode, I've purchased an ethernet switch. In order to pay for this I need to
sell my D-Link 12 port 100BASE-TX hub. $975. OBO. I also have 4 new D-Link
10/100Mbps cards (DEC 21140 chip based and work fine with FreeBSD) that I'd
like to sell. $80/each.
   Send me email if you're interested in any of this.

-DG

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I'm rerouting this from freebsd-current and copying the PDP11
mailing list for corrections and clarifications...

My DEC recollections get hazy after 10 years and all the IBM stuff
I'm seeing lately blends together.

In FreeBSD-current-digest Terry Lambert mentioned a Unique ID on PDP11's.
I follow the exerpt with my recollections -- can anyone mention any machine
except the Pro350/380 where a Unique ID was used in licensing PDP11 
applications or OS software.


> From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:48:14 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: Licensing Software

> > 	'course.  Pity Intel didn't think on burning a unique CPU
> > 	ID into each chip they made.  Even PDP11 had this.
> > 	What can be thought to become a unique FreeBSD machine ID, anyway?
> > 

No PDP11's didn't have a unique ID. At least not the 11/03, 11/05, 11/10, 
11/34[a], 11/23, and 11/40 didn't to the best of my memory...


Which PDP11 had one? The Pro350/380 used a rom or pal chip.
I don't think any LSI stuff through the 11/23 had any id.

The 11/70 had an ID available -- on a DIP switch (user settable) 
but most other machines didn't (and the 11/70 didn't use it -- perhaps the 
4 cpu 11/74 did).  I assume the 11/45/50/55 had the same thing since it was
on the 11/70.


Vaxes had it (11/780 11/785 (backplane wire - could be rewired by anyone
since it was in the printset...), 11/750 (dip switch), the later machines
may have had one -- I think it was on the Microvax.

It was a pain on backplane replacement.

Bill
ex-DEC Field Service
(I'd remember having to set a system ID on maintenance board swap...)


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From owner-freebsd-chat  Wed Sep 25 13:39:47 1996
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> In FreeBSD-current-digest Terry Lambert mentioned a Unique ID on PDP11's.
> I follow the exerpt with my recollections -- can anyone mention any machine
> except the Pro350/380 where a Unique ID was used in licensing PDP11 
> applications or OS software.

Actually, that wasn't me.  It is my opinion that any unique ID which
must depend on a kernel call to allow an application to retrieve it
can be spoofed.  This goes for hard numbers, as well as for "dongles"
which are not active processing mechanisms (some dongles *are* active
mechanisms; as finite state automatons, it *is* conceivable that you
would be able to spoof the dongle at the driver level in any case).
If there were a unique ID in ROM, all I would have to do is fault the
reference and return the false ID.  There is *no way* to fix this for
anything but protected mode (kernel/"ring 0") code.  Even then, on a
486 or better, I can set the MMU to fault pages in protected mode.
As long as my OS architecture allows the handling of these faults at
any given time, I can fake the reference at the driver level.

In short, it's impossible to uniquely identify any hardware without
allowing the identification method itself to be hackable one way or
another.

I suppose you could (if you got licenses from Public Key Partners
and of three software patents, and the blessings of the US State
Department to export the thing) put a PGP machine in a dongle, and
send the dongle a random string, have it PGP sign the string, and
validae the signature.

Even so, it would be possible to attack this with a debugger.  If you
could not disable the check entirely, you could disrupt the randomness
of the string, and pregenerate a table of signed values for potential
strings, and return *that* via your spoofing interface.

What license managers are for is to make it "sufficiently difficult
to spoof that the economic cost of doing so exceeds the economic
benefit".  The same justification for copy protection schemes back
in the 70's and 80's.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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or previous employers.

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Does anyone know of a WM that emulates (read: Steals) the MacOS look? 
AfterStep is cool, but I really like the look of MacOS. (TWM Is Bland. I 
Like Pretty WM's that suck up 95% of the color palette)

--matt Clark

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        The sword that he used
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And has now been removed by the censor).


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#define quoting(Gary Kline)
// 	I have heard rumblings--at least 3rd- or 4th-hand--
// 	that within a year the POTS modems will be screaming along
// 	at 57Kbps or something.   Anybody else hear these rumors?

If Nyquist's Theorem is wrong...   :)

But, who knows.  This same theorem says 28.8Kbps is also impossible,
with a digital signaling rate of 56Khz...

Maybe it's possible between local phones, in the same trunk, where there's
no digital path along.

					Jonny

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According to Joao Carlos Mendes Luis:
> #define quoting(Gary Kline)
> // 	I have heard rumblings--at least 3rd- or 4th-hand--
> // 	that within a year the POTS modems will be screaming along
> // 	at 57Kbps or something.   Anybody else hear these rumors?
> 
> If Nyquist's Theorem is wrong...   :)
> 
> But, who knows.  This same theorem says 28.8Kbps is also impossible,
> with a digital signaling rate of 56Khz...
> 
> Maybe it's possible between local phones, in the same trunk, where there's
> no digital path along.
> 

	I remember being happy at 300baud between the co-op and
	the campus....

	I'm guessing that 38.4 is likely.  56Kpbs would be like
	having an ISDN line.  Interesting times, huh?

	gary
> 


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Jake Hamby spake thusly:

> ...As an aside, I currently
> have _five_ OS's on four partitions of two SCSI hard drives of a single
> 486: Windows 95, NT, Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris/x86, _all_ accessible
> from BootEasy. Is this some sort of world record?  :-) 

  I've never thought of records, but at work (for testing purposes), I've
crammed (arguably) 6 OSes into 3 partitions on a single drive. They are:
DOS622 (+NetWare client; not a _real_ OS, but I'm counting it anyway),
WfW311 (ditto), Win95, NT351, Warp, and UnixWare21. The Powers That Be
don't have FreeBSD or other OSes on their radar screens, else I'd try
to put on more. My home system has only four OSes spread luxuriously :-)
over 3 drives (4 GB total). They're booted (both home and work) by OSBS
and in some cases, the NT loader.


  --Gary Hanson

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------- Forwarded Message

From: Bala Rajagopalan <braja@bellcore.com>
To: ion@nexen.com, qosr@newbridge.com, rsvp@isi.edu
Subject: Totally irrelevant
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This may or may not be relevant to this mailing list, so pardon
me if I'm taking your precious time away from the endless productive
discussion on multicast non-scalability.  Anyway, the reason
I myself am taking time off from reading all the enlightening mail
on multicast non-scalability is to share with you my recent experience
in Tokyo. I was outside a Shinjuku hotel, trying to figure out a
way to get to Akihabara, the electronics district. I didn't have a map 
and didn't know whether
to approach someone for directions and get entagled in the 
intricacies of sign language or what. Suddenly, I found myself 
confronted by a short, bespectacled Japanese man in Jeans and a 
T-Shirt (which read "NHRP Sucks"). 

He asked me, somewhat brusquely, "You need help?". 

I was glad there was a native I could talk to. "Yes," I said.
"Do you know how I can get to Akihabara?"

He seemed annoyed. "Why the hell are you in Tokyo if you don't know 
your way?," he demanded. 

"I don't know...", I stumbled. I had the naive impression that the
Japanese were polite and this fellow was intimidating me.

"If you don't think you don't know, what's the point?" he asked.

I tried to figure that one out, but couldn't. "Listen," I said.
"Could you kindly tell me a way to get to Akihabara?"

"I know how to get there, and I can prove that it's the best
possible way," he said. "How come you are completely out of date?"
he asked.

"Sorry," I said. "I'm new here and..."

He cut me off in the middle. "Go and read an introductory street
map of Tokyo," he said. "Then talk to me. You are wasting my time."

At this point, I started feeling guilty that I had prepared
poorly for this trip. "Yes, it's my mistake," I agreed. "Left the map in
my hotel. Now, could you please tell me where the nearest subway 
station is?" 

"Your statement is completely meaningless," he said. 
"How do you know you can go to Akihabara if you take the subway?"
he asked. 

"Well, I'm sure I saw a subway station marked Akihabara in my map..."
I trailed off.

"You're sure of nothing. I've proved that I know the best way to 
get to Akihabara. Why don't you accept it?" he asked.

"Ok," I said, "I accept that. Now, tell me how"

"Ah.." he said with satisfaction. "You agree you don't know what
you're talking about. Now listen," he said sternly. "I won't repeat
this again and again. This is the best way to go to Akihabara.
I've proved it." he paused.

"Go on," I said.

"Stop a cab. Get in. Say to the driver 'Akihabara'. That's it." 

I was stupied for a few moments. "But I don't want to go in a cab," 
I protested feebly. "It's too expensive.
Isn't there a bus or a train to Akihabara?" I asked.

"You don't know what you're talking. I've proved that bus is
not a scalable way to travel. Train is even worse. You
have to travel multiple hops," he said.

"I don't mind..." I was saying, but he gave me a look
that froze me. 

"I've showed the best way to get to Akihabara. Why
don't you accept it? You don't know what you're talking
about," he said.

"May be you're right," I said, trying to end the conversation
politely and get away.

"I know I'm right," he said. "May be YOu're completely confused.
Why don't you accept that?"

"Sure," I said and started to push off. "Nice meeting you
and thanks for your help," I said.

"You're lucky you spoke to me," he said with modesty. "My name is
Masataka. Here's my card. Send me email next time you
get lost. But don't send me many lengthy mails and waste
my time"

He turned around and headed quickly to God knew where. On
the back, his T-shirt read "IETF spoiled me".
				*******
Bala Rajagopalan
(braja@bellcore.com)

------- End of forwarded message -------

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Gary Kline <kline@tera.com> wrote:

> 	I'm guessing that 38.4 is likely.  56Kpbs would be like
> 	having an ISDN line.  Interesting times, huh?

Boy...between that and some other stuff floating around (ADSL? cable modems?),
it sounds like ISDN is going to be a dinosaur pretty soon? (Hey sonny! I can
remember when you had to order a special kind of phone line just to get
128K...and saying "Wow! 9600 over a normal phone line! Look out world!")

Just some ramblings from the marginally uninformed...

Scott Blachowicz  Ph: 206/283-8802x240   Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div)
                                         1700 Westlake Ave N #500
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According to Scott Blachowicz:
> Gary Kline <kline@tera.com> wrote:
> 
> > 	I'm guessing that 38.4 is likely.  56Kpbs would be like
> > 	having an ISDN line.  Interesting times, huh?
> 
> Boy...between that and some other stuff floating around (ADSL? cable modems?),
> it sounds like ISDN is going to be a dinosaur pretty soon? (Hey sonny! I can
> remember when you had to order a special kind of phone line just to get
> 128K...and saying "Wow! 9600 over a normal phone line! Look out world!")
> 

	Really.

	The catch is that unless the mega-telcos invest zillions
	in additional fiberoptic lines, all of the Joe Sixpacks
	who log on looking for >whatever<, it won't help to have
	anything faster than 14.4.  

	There's something to be said for the good old days of
	maybe last year (!!) when we had the net largely to 
	ourselves....  

	gary

	PS: Last week a commentator on NPR complained that most
	of the techhie/nerds/geeks wanted to keep the Internet 
	for themselves.  I thought:  Yeah...so what's your point?

	*mumble*



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Hi...

  I'm a new comer in Unix Programming and still in an effort to figure out
the Unix system. I'm especially interested in the internal structure, design
and  implementation of BSD Socket (including the TCP/IP) in Unix kernel. I
currently use FreeBSD to learn the Socket and TCP/IP code. But unfortunately
I do not have any books to which I can  refer to understand the code. Is
there anybody here who can help me to find such books? Please, if you
suggest me to use a book, tell me the title, the author, price and a brief
description of the book's contents and also tell me how I could get the book.

Thank's,

 
Eka K.
Student of Telkom High School of Technology. 
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Previously:
>  I'm a new comer in Unix Programming and still in an effort to figure out
>the Unix system. I'm especially interested in the internal structure, design
>and  implementation of BSD Socket (including the TCP/IP) in Unix kernel. I
>currently use FreeBSD to learn the Socket and TCP/IP code. But unfortunately
>I do not have any books to which I can  refer to understand the code. Is
>there anybody here who can help me to find such books? Please, if you
>suggest me to use a book, tell me the title, the author, price and a brief
>description of the book's contents and also tell me how I could get the book.

The two best books that I have seen are both by W. Richard Stevens.  The
first book I'd suggest is "Unix Network Programming", which will give you all
the details of how to use sockets.  The second book, "TCP/IP Illustrated,
Volume 2, The Implementation", describes all of the actual networking code in
4.4BSD-Lite.  I suspect this second book is what you really want...

UNIX Network Programming is published by Prentice Hall.  Rich is working on a
revision of this book now.  The TCP/IP Illustrated series is published by
Addison-Wesley.  I think that each of the two books is in the US $60 range...
You can get to Rich's WWW page at http://www.noao.edu/~rstevens...

-Doug

Doug Wellington
doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov
System and Network Administrator
US Geological Survey, Tucson, AZ Project Office

According to proposed Federal guidelines, this message is a "non-record".
Hmm, I wonder if _everything_ I say is a "non-record"...?

FreeBSD and Apache - the best real tools for the virtual world!
Check out www.freebsd.org and www.apache.org...

Chuck - Lord of Darkness?  Or Lord of Cuteness?

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I have noticed that in several lists people many times send subscribe
and unsbuscribe messages. Why not have a weekly/by-weekly list usage
message which may discribe this operations.


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> I do not have any books to which I can  refer to understand the code. Is
> there anybody here who can help me to find such books? Please, if you

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook contains just such a bibliography at the end.

					Jordan

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Francisco Reyes writes:
>
> I have noticed that in several lists people many times send subscribe
> and unsbuscribe messages. Why not have a weekly/by-weekly list usage
> message which may discribe this operations.

Hmmm.  I thought most of the messages were on -questions.  I'm
planning to extend my weekly "how to get best results" message to tell
people how to get off, and what to do if it doesn't work.

Greg


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As Eka Kelana wrote:

> I need this file:
> 
>      libX11.so.6.1

Should be found in the public beta areas on the XFree86 mirror sites.

-- 
cheers, J"org

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In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.960923002840.222D-100000@sdev.blaze.net.au> from David Nugent at "Sep 23, 96 00:31:10 am"
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As David Nugent wrote:

> Anyone know of any docs on the xterm emulation? Specifically, the
> escape sequences and so forth.

xc/doc/specs/xterm/ctlseqs.ms in the X11 sources contains the
specification for the control sequences.  You can find a PS compiled
version as xc/doc/hardcopy/xterm/ctlseqs.PS.Z in the distribution.

If you fail to find this somewhere, drop me a mail.  The .ms file is
28 KB, the .PS.Z file is 56 KB.  A plaintext compilation (nroff) looks
a bit terrible since they're using boxes all over the place.

-- 
cheers, J"org

joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)