From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jun 23 13:00:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17850 for emulation-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.pu.ru (gw.pu.ru [193.124.85.219]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17784 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (root@localhost) by gw.pu.ru (8.6.10/8.6.6) with UUCP id AAA24467 for freebsd.org!freebsd-emulation; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:12:35 +0400 Received: from atrad.adelaide.edu.au (uucp@localhost) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id OAA00836; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:52:34 +0400 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by gw.pu.ru (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA13057; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:22:38 +0400 Organization: SPb State University Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA16039; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:12:02 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606230742.RAA16039@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Status of DOS emulator? To: root@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (Alexey Pialkin) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:12:01 +0930 (CST) Cc: time.cdrom.com!jkh@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, cs.twsu.edu!jgoerzen@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, freebsd.org!FreeBSD-emulation@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru In-Reply-To: <199606221957.XAA00209@localhost> from "Alexey Pialkin" at Jun 22, 96 11:57:15 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alexey Pialkin stands accused of saying: > > > > The project is moribund for now. Those people who actually have the > > gumption to work on it are either time or hardware constrained, and > > the rest seem to be waiting in the wings for final delivery. > > And a lot of people wait for FreeBSD 2.1.5 with built-in VM86 support :) Well, you know what waiting gets you; piles. Alexy, you made all these noises about how you had it working, but we never saw anything from you. Why? > / Alexey Pialkin N ~~ _}\ \( - -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Jun 23 13:59:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22267 for emulation-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22253 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with UUCP id PAA15102; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:34:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: onyx.southwind.net: Ucomplet set sender to jgoerzen@complete.org using -f Received: (from jgoerzen@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.5/8.7.2) id CAA07833; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:43:49 -0500 (CDT) From: John Goerzen Message-Id: <199606230743.CAA07833@complete.org> Subject: Re: Status of DOS emulator? To: root@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (Alexey Pialkin) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: time.cdrom.com!jkh@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, cs.twsu.edu!jgoerzen@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, FreeBSD-emulation@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606221957.XAA00209@localhost> from Alexey Pialkin at "Jun 22, 96 11:57:15 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I am wondering what the status of FreeBSD's DOS emulator is. For > > > > The project is moribund for now. Those people who actually have the > > gumption to work on it are either time or hardware constrained, and > > the rest seem to be waiting in the wings for final delivery. > > And a lot of people wait for FreeBSD 2.1.5 with built-in VM86 support :) Is this really true? Is it in the -current tree now? -- John Goerzen | Turn your PC into a Workstation for FREE! Custom programming | Check out www.freebsd.org NOW! For free FreeBSD jgoerzen@complete.org | Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 with your modem. From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Jun 24 11:32:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18457 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.pu.ru (gw.pu.ru [193.124.85.219]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18390 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (root@localhost) by gw.pu.ru (8.6.10/8.6.6) with UUCP id WAA18685 for freebsd.org!freebsd-emulation; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:35:10 +0400 Received: from time.cdrom.com (uucp@localhost) by localhost (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA00173; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:44:21 +0400 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by gw.pu.ru (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA00705; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:51:45 +0400 Organization: SPb State University Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA08916; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:36:04 -0700 (PDT) To: John Goerzen cc: root@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru (Alexey Pialkin), time.cdrom.com!jkh@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, cs.twsu.edu!jgoerzen@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru, freebsd.org!FreeBSD-emulation@VexedVox.stud.pu.ru Subject: Re: Status of DOS emulator? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:43:47 CDT." <199606230743.CAA07833@complete.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:36:04 -0700 Message-ID: <8913.835587364@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > And a lot of people wait for FreeBSD 2.1.5 with built-in VM86 support :) > > Is this really true? Is it in the -current tree now? No. Jordan From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Jun 25 03:25:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA11066 for emulation-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA11049 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uYVHt-000aqNC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:24 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02304 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:25:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199606251025.MAA02304@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: emulation@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:13:36 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Where is the BSDI emulator, and what is it called Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All As the subject says. PS Am I not subscribed, or is nothing going on on this list? Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jun 26 01:17:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19159 for emulation-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19143 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uYpkn-000b0NC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 10:15 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA05045 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:16:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199606260816.KAA05045@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:04:48 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: BSDI DOS emulator Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All Sorry, I should have specified DOS rather than just BSDI. I've been poking around in the ports and packages directory but could not find it. The closest I got was pcemu. Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jun 26 02:00:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22460 for emulation-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22412 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA05366; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:14:06 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606260844.SAA05366@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: BSDI DOS emulator To: ishort@pcm.co.za Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:14:06 +0930 (CST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606260816.KAA05045@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> from "Irvine Short" at Jun 26, 96 10:04:48 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define MAJOR_ANNOYANCE Irvine Short stands accused of saying: > > I should have specified DOS rather than just BSDI. > > I've been poking around in the ports and packages directory but could > not find it. The closest I got was pcemu. Are you interested in actively participating in the porting of this program? If not, I suggest you either a) go away, or b) offer me and/or Sean (more likely Sean) a healthy sum of money and we'll drop everything else and get onto it. > Irvine Short Until then, it may be of interest that I've just added EMS support to the PCEMU package; look for it to be committed after the 2.1.5 freeze is over. If speed isn't critical, PCEMU is actually a _very_ useful tool. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Jun 26 02:25:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24754 for emulation-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24741 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uYqoz-000apfC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:23 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA05191; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:25:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199606260925.LAA05191@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: Michael Smith , emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:13:12 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: BSDI DOS emulator Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za CC: emulation@freebsd.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike / All Sorry to have offended you, it seems you have been working hard on PCEMU and I was misled into thinking that there was no useful DOS emulation for FreeBSD by the following message Jordan Hubbarb posted back in April: #Some of you may recall some coy comments on my part a few weeks back #about something being on the way vis-a-vis DOS emulation for FreeBSD #and that we shouldn't be too quick to jump on the Linux dosemu #bandwagon. #My reasons for refusing to elaborate with more details on this until #now were simply that I did not want to jeopardize my negotiations with #BSDI through Keith Bostic, whom I approached at USENIX '96 about a #possible "partnership" arrangement whereby we would get their DOS #emulator, something FreeBSD has needed for quite awhile, and BSDI #would get a bunch of extra people hacking on it, improving it in #various ways and, of course, feeding those changes back to BSDI as #part of the bargain. I will certainly give PCEMU a whirl. > #define MAJOR_ANNOYANCE > Are you interested in actively participating in the porting of this > program? If not, I suggest you either a) go away, or b) offer me and/or > Sean (more likely Sean) a healthy sum of money and we'll drop everything > else and get onto it. > > > Irvine Short > > Until then, it may be of interest that I've just added EMS support to the > PCEMU package; look for it to be committed after the 2.1.5 freeze is > over. If speed isn't critical, PCEMU is actually a _very_ useful tool. Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089