From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 9 03:32:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10537 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 03:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA10512; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 03:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA15746; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 06:28:46 -0400 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199606091028.GAA15746@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Re: Hitachi ATAPI CD-ROM + big disks To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 06:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606082025.NAA19286@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at Jun 8, 96 01:24:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > >> I have just got a Hitachi ATAPI CD-rom - on trial - if it doesn't work I can > [...] > > >My experience is that you need the CD-ROM as master. on the secondary > >controller I have a Mitsumi and my freebsd just finds it if I have it > >as master. I don't know why. I haven't had a look at the code. > > I know why: because IDE sucks. It's a hackish, nightmarish > abomination. As can be illustrated by the problems being discussed > here. I have heard of this same behavior (some drive needs to be > master or won't work) under many different OSs -- it's probably not a > FreeBSD-specific problem. I, for one, have never had a problem installing from the 2.1 ATAPI disk... I've done it on an Aptiva, a Compaq, and a Thinkpad -- and Red Hat Linux wouldn't load from the CD on the Thinkpad 365 (Slackware would). I am running SCSI on my main box -- but, from my personal experience, I wouldn't discourage ATAPI cd use. My spare 386 box is soon going to have one of em for FreeBSD development use. Bill From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 9 10:31:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26101 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 10:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26059 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 10:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199606091731.KAA26059@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by Sisyphos id AA03266 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@freebsd.org); Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:31:08 +0200 Resent-From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:31:08 +0200 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) Resent-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: by Sisyphos id AA03091 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for se); Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:21:32 +0200 Message-Id: <199606091721.AA03091@Sisyphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:21:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Rodney W. Grimes" "Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK" (Jun 8, 18:18) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jun 8, 18:18, "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: } Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK } I am really replying to make a correction here, the ASUS PCI-L101-TB ethernet } card is based on an AMD Am79C970 chip and absolutely will not run with the } ``de'' driver. It may, however, work with the ``lnc'' driver. There have been several reports of people who got it to work with the lnc driver, but they had to manually configure the port address. I have written the PCI probe code for the PCI Lance, but had no time to import it into the -current tree, yet :( To manually configure the card, boot with "-v", look for a PCI card of class "network (Ethernet)" and use the port address reported for the ISA device "lnc0". You can either rebuild your kernel or boot into config mode (enter "-c" at the "Boot: " prompt) and then use the command (assuming the port used is 0x7000 and the PCI slot got IRQ 12 assigned to INT A): config> port lnc0 0x7000 config> irq lnc 12 config> q I'll try to get the Lance probe code into -current before the end of next week. It will make the card be detected as "lnc1", though ! (This is to allow another Lance to be present on ISA. Since the PCI scan comes first, it is not known whether there actually is such a card.) Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jun 9 12:41:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12463 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.demon.co.uk (linus.demon.co.uk [158.152.10.220]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12440 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mark@localhost) by linus.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02997; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:34:32 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199606091934.UAA02997@linus.demon.co.uk> From: mark@linus.demon.co.uk (Mark Valentine) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:34:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: Stefan Esser's message of Jun 9, 7:21pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser), hardware@FreeBSD.org, "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) > Date: Sun 9 Jun, 1996 > Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK > I'll try to get the Lance probe code into -current > before the end of next week. > It will make the card be detected as "lnc1", though ! > > (This is to allow another Lance to be present on ISA. > Since the PCI scan comes first, it is not known whether > there actually is such a card.) What happens with more than one ISA Lance card? Just curious. :-) Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine at Home From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 04:23:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA24450 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 04:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (unicorn.uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA24349; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 04:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gordon@localhost) by unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11994; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:23:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:23:11 +0100 (BST) From: Gordon Henderson X-Sender: gordon@unicorn To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and 3com590/595 cards. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently built a new server with FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP to make use of the 3com590 cards that we wished to use. The driver support for them is very flakey. I can repeatedly cause the system to stop all traffic flowing over the ethernet card, requiring an ifconfig vx0 down ; sleep 1 ; ifconfig vx0 up to restore connectivity. Is anyone working on a better driver? especially one that uses all features of the hardware (and not just polling) as we also have a requirement to use 3c595's as soon as possible to make use of their 100Mb/sec transfers. Gordon From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 08:40:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18187 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18164 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA07484; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:40 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Passive backplane computers? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Jonas Olsson" Cc: jonas@mcs.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a PICMG passive backplane computer. Ideally it should use Triton II chipset (for parity and ECC and fast PCI and memory bus). I have seen cards advertised from ProLog (PIP10, dual Pentium), Texas Micro (P5000HX), and Trenton. Has anyone used PICMG computers with FreeBSD? Are there any device drivers for the watchdog timers on these boards? Any recommendatitions for reliable computers? Jonas From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 09:20:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22489 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22350; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10682; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:21:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:21:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: Gordon Henderson cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and 3com590/595 cards. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't had many problems with the vx0 driver except yesterday it got weird system errors then it rebooted! Never seen that kind of error before. So I was trying 3c509's - This driver is said to be buggy too. [It only detects it half the time when booting.] I really would like to use 3com cards.. anyone have workarounds? Any way I can help? I use 2.1R. On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Gordon Henderson wrote: > > I recently built a new server with FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP to make use of > the 3com590 cards that we wished to use. > > The driver support for them is very flakey. I can repeatedly cause the > system to stop all traffic flowing over the ethernet card, requiring an > ifconfig vx0 down ; sleep 1 ; ifconfig vx0 up > to restore connectivity. > > Is anyone working on a better driver? especially one that uses all > features of the hardware (and not just polling) as we also have a > requirement to use 3c595's as soon as possible to make use of their > 100Mb/sec transfers. > - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access - http://www.cia-g.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 09:34:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23314 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.16.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23309; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02207; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:33:22 -0700 (PDT) To: "Lars Jonas Olsson" cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org, jonas@mcs.net Subject: Re: Passive backplane computers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:48 CDT." Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:33:21 -0700 Message-ID: <2205.834424401@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone used PICMG computers with FreeBSD? Yes. > Are there any device >drivers for the watchdog timers on these boards? I generally hack a user-mode program together. The point being that if a very simple user-more program doesn't get scheduled, I'm toast. A device-driver has the risk of working even though the system is hung. > Any recommendatitions for reliable computers? Keep 'em cool. Use a serial console with an logging device (another machine maybe). -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 15:40:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09179 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09148; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA06923; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:36:52 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606102306.IAA06923@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and 3com590/595 cards. To: lithium@cia-g.com (Stephen Fisher) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:36:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: gordon@drogon.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Fisher" at Jun 10, 96 10:21:49 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Fisher stands accused of saying: > > I haven't had many problems with the vx0 driver except yesterday it got > weird system errors then it rebooted! Never seen that kind of error > before. So I was trying 3c509's - This driver is said to be buggy too. > [It only detects it half the time when booting.] > > I really would like to use 3com cards.. anyone have workarounds? Any way > I can help? I use 2.1R. Don't use 3com cards. Try SMC if you want hardware that works, and is supported. The 'vx' driver is AFAIK slated for a total rewrite, and the 'ep' driver suffers from cantankerous hardware. > - Steve -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 10 17:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00156 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00147 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA24635 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:39:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:39:04 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199606110039.RAA24635@ns.via.net> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Are SDL T1 cards supported? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -joe From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 11:30:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17515 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17509 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA10095; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:35:21 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:35:21 +0000 () From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Micropolis Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just lost a second Micropolis 4.3 GIG SCSI drive. The model number is 3243. Stay away from these drives at all costs, unless losing business and restore is something you like to do. This is the second one of the same model to go within the past 4 months. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "It is well established that the loss of First Amendment freedoms, for even minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes irreparable injury." Hohe v. Casey, 868 F. 2d 69, at p. 72, 73 (3d Cir. 1989) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 13:36:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25160 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sisyphos (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25147 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by Sisyphos id AA14255 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@FreeBSD.org); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:36:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199606112036.AA14255@Sisyphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:36:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: mark@linus.demon.co.uk (Mark Valentine) "Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK" (Jun 9, 20:34) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: mark@linus.demon.co.uk (Mark Valentine) Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jun 9, 20:34, Mark Valentine wrote: } Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK } > From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) } > Date: Sun 9 Jun, 1996 } > Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware in the UK } } > I'll try to get the Lance probe code into -current } > before the end of next week. } > It will make the card be detected as "lnc1", though ! } > } > (This is to allow another Lance to be present on ISA. } > Since the PCI scan comes first, it is not known whether } > there actually is such a card.) } } What happens with more than one ISA Lance card? Just curious. :-) Well, actually the first PCI card gets as its number (NLNC +1). If you have a device line for lnc0 and lnc1, then two ISA Lance cards can be supported by the kernel, and the PCI cards would become lnc2, lnc3, ... (there is no upper limit, except the number of PCI slots in your system :) Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 15:25:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02700 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jigsaw.sri.com (jigsaw.sri.com [128.18.44.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02695 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scottb@localhost) by jigsaw.sri.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA06002 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:15:14 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:15:14 GMT From: Scott Banachowski Message-Id: <199606111415.OAA06002@jigsaw.sri.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel EtherExpress support? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't had any luck getting freebsd to recognize an Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 PCI card at /dev/ix0 (the supposed driver for this card). It does find the card when probing the PCI bus, but prints a message along with it that says: no driver loaded. Is the PCI version of this card not supported, or am I doing something wrong? From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 16:11:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA05823 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05816 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA21070; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:11:33 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199606112311.QAA21070@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress support? To: scottb@jigsaw.sri.com (Scott Banachowski) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606111415.OAA06002@jigsaw.sri.com> from Scott Banachowski at "Jun 11, 96 02:15:14 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I haven't had any luck getting freebsd to recognize an Intel > EtherExpress PRO/100 PCI card at /dev/ix0 (the supposed driver for this > card). It does find the card when probing the PCI bus, but prints a > message along with it that says: no driver loaded. > Is the PCI version of this card not supported, > or am I doing something wrong? Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 PCI != Intel EtherExpress 16. The if_ix.c driver supports the Intel EtherExpress 16 _only_, not the Pro version or the PRO/100. The PRO/100B is supported by the if_fxp.c driver, the PRO/100 is not supported at this time, and I do not know the status of when it will be, if ever. Intel has done a great disservice to the user communties by giving very similiar names to products that are quite different. The Ether Express 16 uses an 82586 chip, the Ether Express Pro uses something else, and the Ether Express Pro/100 yet another chip. I am not clear on the difference between a Pro/100 and a Pro/100B. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 16:57:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08818 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08788; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id QAA22810; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA21173; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:54:03 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199606112354.QAA21173@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Which dual Pentium motherboard? Cyrix SMP? To: jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net (Jacob M. Parnas) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: michaelv@headcandy.com, gpalmer@freebsd.org, dave@persprog.com, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606080143.VAA28830@jparnas.cybercom.net> from "Jacob M. Parnas" at "Jun 7, 96 09:43:32 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In message <199606072303.QAA12291@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>you write: > >> > >> In message <199606071942.MAA11811@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>you write: > >> >> > >> >> >David Alderman wrote in message ID > >> >> ><26C84A7DC0@novell.persprog.com>: > >> > >> I found the best motherboard for dual pentium pros is a new one from > >> SuperMicro. It can be had for just $875 from Micro Assist. It has > >> 8 SIMM 72 pin modules and 4 PCI and 4 ISA cards. Its model number is MBP6DNF > >> Dual Pentum-Pro Natoma Motherboard from Micro-Assist 888-97-MICRO > >> (processor Mag) (Full-AT Size). They also sell 32 meg SIMMS for 279 each. > >> I'm planning on getting 4 32 meg boards for 128 meg of ram. > > > >Have you gotten one of these in your hands and actually started to use it? > >The reason I have asked is prior history with SuperMicro products for me > >has been someplace between mildly disatisfied with problems, to utterly > >pissed off about quality. > > > > No, I haven't. I still haven't decided which system to get. What types of > problems did you encounter? Memory system related failures that where probabaly caused by poor testing of the PBurst cache chips at the factory. Replacing the cache modules often fixed the boards. > Were they fixable or did you have to live with the problem. Having to return > 5% of incoming boards that failed testing is not a viable option for an OEM. I simply discontiuned the product line. You could say the problem was ``fixable'', but having to deal with RMA's on a continuale basis was just not reasonable for me to do. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 17:03:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA09168 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core.apana.org.au (core.apana.org.au [203.12.236.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09137 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by core.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02941 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:03:32 +1000 Received: (from news@localhost) by yarrina.connect.com.au id KAA04486 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:03:32 +1000 (EST) To: apana-lists-os-freebsd-hardware@apana.org.au Path: usenet From: mollyt Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.freebsd.hardware,apana.lists.os.freebsd.questions,apana.lists.os.netbsd.general,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,info.bsdi.u Subject: Modem connects 9600 only WHY? Date: 12 Jun 1996 00:03:31 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bb57f2.c0393f60$6e0d038c@pc-molly> NNTP-Posting-Host: prgrsfw1.visy.com.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running BSD/2.0 and have connected a modem to it for remote shell access, the next step was to allow PPP access BUT. I have a microcom deskporte fast modem (28.8k). the box is a pentium 75 with 8meg ram. I cannot get the modem to connect at any Baud-rate than 9600 and below, I have placed my own entries in ETC/GETTYTAB following the format of the entries that are there but no good I get no table entry when I modify ttys and let a getty run on tty00. Can anyone tell me how I get a modem to run on my BSD machine including: 1) How to dictate com port speed (computer to modem) 2) How to dictate communication speed (modem to modem) 3) What files I need to modify and how (ie gettytab entries ttys entries). Please help I am going insane trial and erroring . thanks ps for some unexplained reason com1 has become tty01 and com2 has become tty00 I even did a re-install and this remained the case From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 18:08:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12539 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orgland.zgrad.su (root@orgland.ru [194.190.194.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12487 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dnb@localhost) by orgland.zgrad.su id FAA09571 (8.6.13/Orgland-1 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:07:42 +0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: Orgland Ltd., Zelenograd, Russia. From: "Dmitri Beloslioudtsev" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:07:41 +0400 (MSD) Reply-To: dnb@orgland.zgrad.ru X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] X-Class: Fast,Nobatch Subject: 2.2-960501-SNAP and Digital DC21041 Ethernet - some errors. Lines: 136 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I have a problem using Digital DC21041 Ethernet PCI card with 2.2-960501-SNAP. Seems to me that the driver can't correctly determine the type of ethernet media (I have BNC). But if I boot linux or boot DOS and run card's diagnostic program, then after reboot FreeBSD works correctly and flawlessly. Like linux or diagnostic program "cure" the card and after that FreeBSD works OK. If I try to boot FreeBSD immediately after power on, it hangs almost at end of kernel boot process immediately before running init. If I change the cards in the slots I was able to boot FreeBSD, but in that case the network card is not working and commands like 'arp -a' hangs (but can be terminated). My config: FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP #2: Tue Jun 11 00:45:22 MSD 1996 root@xxxx.orgland.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/XXXX Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i586 clock: 119751400 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193177 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CLK_USE_I586_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method i586 clock: 0 Hz CPU: Pentium (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14741504 (14396K bytes) BIOS Geometries: 0:0107fe3f 0..263=264 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=122d8086) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 CPU Inactivity timer: clocks Peer Concurrency: enabled CPU-to-PCI Write Bursting: enabled PCI Streaming: enabled Bus Concurrency: enabled Cache: 256K pipelined-burst secondary; L1 enabled DRAM: no memory hole, 60 MHz refresh Read burst timing: x-2-2-2/x-3-3-3 Write burst timing: x-3-3-3 RAS-CAS delay: 3 clocks chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7:0 Extended BIOS: enabled Lower BIOS: disabled Coprocessor IRQ13: enabled Mouse IRQ12: disabled Interrupt Routing: A: IRQ11, B: IRQ10, C: IRQ9, D: disabled MB0: disabled, MB1: disabled pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x1230, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] map(20): io(3000) de0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:17 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006000 size=0080. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f0801000 size=0080. reg16: ioaddr=0x6000 size=0x80 de0: DC21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:80:48:e8:71:c4 bpf: de0 attached ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:18 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00006100 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f0800000 size=1000. ahc0: BurstLen = 8DWDs, Latency Timer = 32PCLKS ahc0: aic7850 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs ahc0: Host Adapter Bios disabled. Using default SCSI device parameters ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...Done ahc0: Probing channel A ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:0:0): "FUJITSU M2932S-512 0110" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2076MB (4253391 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 3421 cyls, 9 heads, and an average 138 sectors/track ahc0: target 3 synchronous at 4.4MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:3:0): "PIONEER CD-ROM DR-124X 1.05" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:3:0): CD-ROM cd present [1301008 x 512 byte records] vga0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:19 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=f0000000 size=800000. pci0: uses 8392832 bytes of memory from f0000000 upto f080107f. pci0: uses 384 bytes of I/O space from 6000 upto 61ff. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x280-0x287 irq 5 flags 0x5 on isa sio0: type 16550A (multiport master) sio1 at 0x288-0x28f flags 0x5 on isa sio1: type 16550A (multiport) sio2 at 0x290-0x297 flags 0x5 on isa sio2: type 16550A (multiport) sio3 at 0x298-0x29f flags 0x5 on isa sio3: type 16550A (multiport) sio4 at 0x2a0-0x2a7 flags 0x5 on isa sio4: type 16550A (multiport) sio5 at 0x2a8-0x2af flags 0x5 on isa sio5: type 16550A (multiport) sio6 at 0x2b0-0x2b7 flags 0x5 on isa sio6: type 16550A (multiport) sio7 at 0x2b8-0x2bf flags 0x5 on isa sio7: type 16550A (multiport) sio8 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio8: type 16550A sio9 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio9: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface bpf: lp0 attached fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface imasks: bio c0000440, tty c00308ba, net c00308ba bpf: tun0 attached new masks: bio c0000440, tty c00308ba, net c00308ba bpf: sl0 attached bpf: sl1 attached bpf: sl2 attached bpf: sl3 attached bpf: sl4 attached bpf: sl5 attached bpf: ppp0 attached bpf: ppp1 attached bpf: ppp2 attached bpf: ppp3 attached bpf: ppp4 attached bpf: ppp5 attached bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ds0 attached sd0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end = 4241159, size 4241097 : OK de0: enabling Thinwire/BNC port With best regards, -- Dmitri Beloslioudtsev, Firm "Orgland", Zelenograd, Russia mailto:dnb@orgland.zgrad.ru http://orgland.ru/~dnb From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 18:45:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14930 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14925 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA14726; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:42:07 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606120212.LAA14726@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress support? To: scottb@jigsaw.sri.com (Scott Banachowski) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:42:06 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606111415.OAA06002@jigsaw.sri.com> from "Scott Banachowski" at Jun 11, 96 02:15:14 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Banachowski stands accused of saying: > > I haven't had any luck getting freebsd to recognize an Intel > EtherExpress PRO/100 PCI card at /dev/ix0 (the supposed driver for this > card). It does find the card when probing the PCI bus, but prints a > message along with it that says: no driver loaded. > Is the PCI version of this card not supported, > or am I doing something wrong? Wrong driver. The 'ix' driver is for the EtherExpress, which is an ISA card and bears little or no resemblance to the above. The EEpro100 is supported by the 'fxp' driver, which is in -stable and -current. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 11 21:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26705 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.10.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26697 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dympna by junior.lgc.com (8.6.9/lgc.1.26) id XAA16219; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:57:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:57:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@dympna To: Thomas J Balfe cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Micropolis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For Sale: 10 Micropolis 4.3GB Fast Wide Diff drives, model 3243, Make offer...... :-) Seriously, I think this parallels some experiences we've seen with other Micropolis drives, 1991 & 1936 come to mind. Does anyone have any experiences with the 2.25GB Sequel drives being sold by ISN for 299? 7200rpm, 8.5ms access and best of all a whopping 3 month warranty! -- Rob Snow On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Thomas J Balfe wrote: > I just lost a second Micropolis 4.3 GIG SCSI drive. The model number is > 3243. Stay away from these drives at all costs, unless losing business > and restore is something you like to do. This is the second one of the > same model to go within the past 4 months. > > > ======================================================================== > Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com > President http://www.tioga.com/ > Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 > ======================================================================== > > "It is well established that the loss of First Amendment freedoms, > for even minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes > irreparable injury." > Hohe v. Casey, 868 F. 2d 69, at p. 72, 73 (3d Cir. 1989) > From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 02:32:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11788 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 02:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11777 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 02:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id XAA29070; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:30:33 -1000 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:30:33 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199606120930.XAA29070@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Rob Snow "Re: Micropolis" (Jun 11, 11:57pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Rob Snow , Thomas J Balfe Subject: Re: Micropolis Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } } For Sale: 10 Micropolis 4.3GB Fast Wide Diff drives, model 3243, } Make offer...... :-) } } Seriously, I think this parallels some experiences we've seen with other } Micropolis drives, 1991 & 1936 come to mind. Does anyone have any } experiences with the 2.25GB Sequel drives being sold by ISN for 299? } 7200rpm, 8.5ms access and best of all a whopping 3 month warranty! } What? According to: http://www.disk911.com/cgi/disk911/01be89ee10/hotdeal.html they want $450 for the drive. Where have you seen it for $299? Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 03:12:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16558 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 03:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core.apana.org.au (core.apana.org.au [203.12.236.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA16501 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 03:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by core.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08126 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:12:29 +1000 Received: (from news@localhost) by yarrina.connect.com.au id UAA06603 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:12:21 +1000 (EST) To: apana-lists-os-freebsd-hardware@apana.org.au Path: usenet From: mollyt Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.freebsd.hardware,apana.lists.os.freebsd.questions,apana.lists.os.netbsd.general,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix. Subject: How to drive a modem faster than 9600 Date: 12 Jun 1996 10:12:19 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Lines: 27 Message-ID: <01bb5847.d3f6a6a0$6e0d038c@pc-molly> NNTP-Posting-Host: prgrsfw1.visy.com.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings all, I have BSD\os2.0 and connected to it I have a Microm Deskporte fast modem, it However does not want ot run in anything other than 9600 baud questions: is it running at this speed because that is the default port speed of the computer ? if so how can I tell unix to use a higher port speed. strange thing plugged in a dumb terminal to this port and ran at 19200 no problems. The modem when it resets or when you play with it using tip always defaults back to 9600. Can some-one please tell me the steps I need to do to make this modem work at 28.8k including gettytab entries ttys entries and whether I need to re-make a tty00 device or whatever I'm really frustrated with this thing. Love Molly ps apologies if this message appears twice. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 05:12:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA28424 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core.apana.org.au (core.apana.org.au [203.12.236.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA28418 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jparnas.cybercom.net (jparnas.cybercom.net [205.198.82.58]) by core.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA08908 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:12:27 +1000 Received: from localhost.cybercom.net (localhost.cybercom.net [127.0.0.1]) by jparnas.cybercom.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA12368; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:11:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199606121211.IAA12368@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol To: mollyt cc: apana-lists-os-freebsd-hardware@apana.org.au X-External-Networks: yes Subject: Re: Modem connects 9600 only WHY? In-reply-to: Your message of 12 Jun 1996 00:03:31 GMT. <01bb57f2.c0393f60$6e0d038c@pc-molly> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:11:14 -0400 From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <01bb57f2.c0393f60$6e0d038c@pc-molly>you write: >I am running BSD/2.0 and have connected a modem to it for remote shell >access, the next step was to allow PPP access BUT. >I have a microcom deskporte fast modem (28.8k). >the box is a pentium 75 with 8meg ram. > >I cannot get the modem to connect at any Baud-rate than 9600 and below, I >have placed my own entries in ETC/GETTYTAB following the format of the >entries that are there but no good I get no table entry when I modify ttys >and let a getty run on tty00. > >Can anyone tell me how I get a modem to run on my BSD machine including: I'm using a US Robotics V.everything on a Sun Sparc 2 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1. >1) How to dictate com port speed (computer to modem) AT&B10 -- sets computer->modem at 115200 baud >2) How to dictate communication speed (modem to modem) AT&N0 -- negotiates the highest >3) What files I need to modify and how (ie gettytab entries ttys entries). I need a special card (Magma, $275, I think with 2 serial ports, 1 parallel) and put the following in my /etc/rc.local # MAGMA Sp # MAGMA Sp Driver # installed on 04/07/95 15:48 by jparnas.cybercom.net!jparnas ttyp2 Apr 7 15:31 (:0.0) # if [ -d /etc/MAGMA/Sp ] ; then dir=`pwd` cd /etc/MAGMA/Sp /usr/etc/modload mh.o -entry _mh_vdcmd -exec mh.exec /etc/MAGMA/Sp/setport cum01 115200 -parenb cs8 crtscts ixoff 709 -hangup /etc/MAGMA/Sp/setport ttym01 115200 -parenb cs8 crtscts ixoff 709 -hangup cd $dir fi rm -f /u/jparnas/tmp/slip.output rm -f /u/jparnas/tmp/slip.pid rm /usr/spool/uucp/LCK* It uses 1800 baud as 115200 baud (since 1800 is pretty much never used). Thus my gettytab entry is like this: j|std.115200|115200-baud:\ :sp#115200 And I'd have a ttytab entry like: # name getty type status comments # ttym01 "/usr/etc/getty std.1800" unknown off local secure And when not in use /etc/ttys would be like: (for that port) 1jttym01 I think that about covers it. Note, Your modem might be different so I'd double check the commands, and freebsd is almost certainly different than SunOS. But this should give you the basic idea. Jacob From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 05:51:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA29862 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.10.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29857 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dympna by junior.lgc.com (8.6.9/lgc.1.26) id HAA18562; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 07:50:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 07:50:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@dympna To: Richard Foulk cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Micropolis In-Reply-To: <199606120930.XAA29070@pegasus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Richard Foulk wrote: > } > } For Sale: 10 Micropolis 4.3GB Fast Wide Diff drives, model 3243, > } Make offer...... :-) > } > } Seriously, I think this parallels some experiences we've seen with other > } Micropolis drives, 1991 & 1936 come to mind. Does anyone have any > } experiences with the 2.25GB Sequel drives being sold by ISN for 299? > } 7200rpm, 8.5ms access and best of all a whopping 3 month warranty! > } > > What? According to: > > http://www.disk911.com/cgi/disk911/01be89ee10/hotdeal.html > > they want $450 for the drive. Where have you seen it for $299? > > > Richard > Point your browser at www.isn.com and then hit the Drives label. It's shown at 299.95. Just checking, I see they show the average access at 7.5ms, that's pretty damn fast. -Rob From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 18:52:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21089 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21084; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA11568; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by delphi.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) id SAA15400; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606130152.SAA15400@delphi.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: "Dmitri Beloslioudtsev"'s message of Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:07:41 +0400 (MSD) Subject: Re: 2.2-960501-SNAP and Digital DC21041 Ethernet - some errors. References: Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Dmitri" == "Dmitri Beloslioudtsev" writes: Dmitri> Hello! Dmitri> I have a problem using Digital DC21041 Ethernet PCI card Dmitri> with 2.2-960501-SNAP. Seems to me that the driver can't Dmitri> correctly determine the type of ethernet media (I have Dmitri> BNC). But if I boot linux or boot DOS and run card's Dmitri> diagnostic program, then after reboot FreeBSD works Dmitri> correctly and flawlessly. Like linux or diagnostic Dmitri> program "cure" the card and after that FreeBSD works OK. Dmitri> If I try to boot FreeBSD immediately after power on, it Dmitri> hangs almost at end of kernel boot process immediately Dmitri> before running init. If I change the cards in the slots I Dmitri> was able to boot FreeBSD, but in that case the network Dmitri> card is not working and commands like 'arp -a' hangs (but Dmitri> can be terminated). I got a similar problem in 2.2-960501-SNAP. The SMC Etherpower 10/100 cards in my P6 keep coming up in 100BaseT while it's only connected to 10BaseT network. It's happening more than 50% during reboot. It's getting worse now since we have two of those cards in the system now. Is there a way to force it to do 10BaseT instead? SEK From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 19:20:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA22559 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22552; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id TAA05098; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA00298; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606130216.TAA00298@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Steve Khoo cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.2-960501-SNAP and Digital DC21041 Ethernet - some errors. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:52:22 PDT." <199606130152.SAA15400@delphi.gordian.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:16:39 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I got a similar problem in 2.2-960501-SNAP. The SMC Etherpower 10/100 >cards in my P6 keep coming up in 100BaseT while it's only connected to >10BaseT network. It's happening more than 50% during reboot. It's >getting worse now since we have two of those cards in the system now. >Is there a way to force it to do 10BaseT instead? Yes, use the link2 flag to ifconfig. I think "link2" forces 100Mbps and "-link2" forces 10Mbps. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 19:42:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26417 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26398; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id TAA05229; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA23149; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:39:31 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199606130239.TAA23149@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: 2.2-960501-SNAP and Digital DC21041 Ethernet - some errors. To: steve@gordian.com (Steve Khoo) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606130152.SAA15400@delphi.gordian.com> from Steve Khoo at "Jun 12, 96 06:52:22 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>>>> "Dmitri" == "Dmitri Beloslioudtsev" writes: > > Dmitri> Hello! > > Dmitri> I have a problem using Digital DC21041 Ethernet PCI card > Dmitri> with 2.2-960501-SNAP. Seems to me that the driver can't > Dmitri> correctly determine the type of ethernet media (I have > Dmitri> BNC). But if I boot linux or boot DOS and run card's > Dmitri> diagnostic program, then after reboot FreeBSD works > Dmitri> correctly and flawlessly. Like linux or diagnostic > Dmitri> program "cure" the card and after that FreeBSD works OK. > Dmitri> If I try to boot FreeBSD immediately after power on, it > Dmitri> hangs almost at end of kernel boot process immediately > Dmitri> before running init. If I change the cards in the slots I > Dmitri> was able to boot FreeBSD, but in that case the network > Dmitri> card is not working and commands like 'arp -a' hangs (but > Dmitri> can be terminated). > > I got a similar problem in 2.2-960501-SNAP. The SMC Etherpower 10/100 > cards in my P6 keep coming up in 100BaseT while it's only connected to > 10BaseT network. It's happening more than 50% during reboot. It's > getting worse now since we have two of those cards in the system now. > Is there a way to force it to do 10BaseT instead? Yes, add -link2 to the ifconfig string in /etc/sysconfig, that should force it back to 10BaseT. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 20:10:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00486 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00462; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delphi.gordian.com (delphi.gordian.com [192.73.220.125]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA14825; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by delphi.gordian.com (8.7.2/8.6.9) id UAA16639; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606130309.UAA16639@delphi.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: davidg@Root.COM CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: David Greenman's message of Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:16:39 -0700 Subject: Re: 2.2-960501-SNAP and Digital DC21041 Ethernet - some errors. References: <199606130152.SAA15400@delphi.gordian.com> <199606130216.TAA00298@Root.COM> Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "David" == David Greenman writes: >> I got a similar problem in 2.2-960501-SNAP. The SMC Etherpower 10/100 >> cards in my P6 keep coming up in 100BaseT while it's only connected to >> 10BaseT network. It's happening more than 50% during reboot. It's >> getting worse now since we have two of those cards in the system now. >> Is there a way to force it to do 10BaseT instead? David> Yes, use the link2 flag to ifconfig. I think "link2" David> forces 100Mbps and David> "-link2" forces 10Mbps. Thanks! It works. '-link2' forces 10Mbps. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 21:00:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05966 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 21:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from next.com (next.com [129.18.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05959 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 21:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from day by femail.NeXT.COM (NX5.67f1/NeXT0.1-Aleph (CST $Revision: 1.17 $ $State: Exp $ amm)) id AA05541; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:59:48 -0700 From: Dan Grillo Message-Id: <9606130359.AA05541@femail.NeXT.COM> Received: by day.next.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X ($Revision: 1.11 $ $State: Exp $)) id AA17593; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:59:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:59:46 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Information Services, NeXT Software, Inc. To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: driver for Xircom Netwave? Versions: dmail 2.0j/makemail 2.8j Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a FreeBSD driver for the Xircom Netwave PCMCIA wireless lan card? (http://www.xircom.com/Products/nw.html) --Dan -- Dan Grillo dan@next.com 415 780-2963 new office - Blg1 Rm163 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 12 22:06:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA14587 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14580 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com by lserver.infoworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0uU5nM-000wxIC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 23:22 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.infoworld.com id AA834642282; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:08:15 PST Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:08:15 PST From: "Brett Glass" Message-Id: <9605128346.AA834642282@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: mollyt Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Modem connects 9600 only WHY? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Call your phone company and tell them that your FAX (not your modem) is working slowly. They may be using compression ("pair gain") on your line, and this may persuade them to take it off. Say you have a FAX machine because many phone companies seem to believe that modem users should pay more for adequate service. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 13 07:44:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28014 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leinlein.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (leinlein.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.32.126]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28006 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by leinlein.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00657; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:51:18 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:51:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199606131351.WAA00657@leinlein.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: Dan_Grillo@next.com Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: driver for Xircom Netwave? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:59:46 -0700. <9606130359.AA05541@femail.NeXT.COM> From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.19] 1995-07/21(Fri) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <9606130359.AA05541@femail.NeXT.COM> Dan_Grillo@next.com writes: >> Is there a FreeBSD driver for the Xircom Netwave PCMCIA wireless >> lan card? (http://www.xircom.com/Products/nw.html) Pls don't ask me about Xircom's cards, ask Xircom instead :-). -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 13 12:34:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13522 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core.apana.org.au (core.apana.org.au [203.12.236.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13514 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by core.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA07461 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 05:34:14 +1000 Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-18-156.pt.uk.ibm.net [139.92.18.156]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA04062 ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:33:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA12259; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 00:26:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199606122226.AAA12259@vector.jhs.no_domain> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.no_domain: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: mollyt cc: apana-lists-os-freebsd-hardware@apana.org.au Subject: Re: Modem connects 9600 only WHY? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (later) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Jun 1996 00:03:31 GMT." <01bb57f2.c0393f60$6e0d038c@pc-molly> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 00:26:04 +0200 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: mollyt > > I am running BSD/2.0 ....... > Please help I am going insane trial and erroring . Huh ? What's that ? There's FreeBSD, NetBSD, 386BSD (defunct I guess) & BSDI's BSD386 So what are you running ? Is it FreeBSD or some other OS that's not appropriate to hardware@freebsd.org ? If you're running FreeBSD 2.0 that's very old, & was brought out in a rush for reasons we FreeBSD people had little control over (lawyers etc). (ie less stable than subsequent less frantic releases :-) _If_ your running FreeBSD 2.0, be aware we've had 2.0.5 & 2.1.0 released since then, (& next release will be soon). Please don't waste your (or our) time on that old 2.0, upgrade to 2.1.0 & see if problem goes away ! & if it's not FreeBSD, well, ......... ;-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 14 07:12:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA17102 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA17029 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 07:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shraero.UUCP by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with UUCP id AA23243 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@FreeBSD.org); Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:12:34 +0200 Received: by shraero.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24640; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:53:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:53:14 +0200 From: kaufmann@shraero.shraero.co.at (Roland Kaufmann) Message-Id: <9606141353.AA24640@shraero.co.at> To: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606122226.AAA12259@vector.jhs.no_domain> Subject: *BSD Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > There's FreeBSD, NetBSD, 386BSD (defunct I guess) & BSDI's BSD386 Isn't there a beast called OpenBSD too? I know that this is not necessarily the right place to ask, but could someone shed some light on these? regards Roland From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 14 11:22:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04951 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04935 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Glock.COM (glock.com [198.82.228.165]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id LAA21970 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mmead@localhost) by Glock.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06561; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "matthew c. mead" Message-Id: <199606141817.OAA06561@Glock.COM> Subject: pentium pro motherboards? To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:26:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have any pentium pro motherboard recommendations? I'm assuming there are some out now that do not exhibit the 4M/s memory bandwidth limitation... -matt -- Matthew C. Mead mmead@goof.com http://www.goof.com/~mmead/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 14 13:11:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13104 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13090; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606142011.NAA13090@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: *BSD To: kaufmann@shraero.shraero.co.at (Roland Kaufmann) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9606141353.AA24640@shraero.co.at> from "Roland Kaufmann" at Jun 14, 96 03:53:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Roland Kaufmann wrote: > > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > There's FreeBSD, NetBSD, 386BSD (defunct I guess) & BSDI's BSD386 > > Isn't there a beast called OpenBSD too? I know that this is not > necessarily the right place to ask, but could someone shed some light > on these? yes there are many ;)
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BSD/OS 4.4BSD with vendor support jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 14 18:51:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11584 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jparnas.cybercom.net ([205.198.82.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11575; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.cybercom.net (localhost.cybercom.net [127.0.0.1]) by jparnas.cybercom.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA20916; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:49:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199606150149.VAA20916@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host localhost.cybercom.net didn't use HELO protocol To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: michaelv@headcandy.com, gpalmer@freebsd.org, dave@persprog.com, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-External-Networks: yes Subject: Re: Which dual Pentium motherboard? Cyrix SMP? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:54:02 PDT. <199606112354.QAA21173@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:49:52 -0400 From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606112354.QAA21173@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>you write: >> >> In message <199606072303.QAA12291@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>you write: >> >> >> >> In message <199606071942.MAA11811@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>you write: >> >> >> >> >> >> >David Alderman wrote in message ID >> >> >> ><26C84A7DC0@novell.persprog.com>: >> >> >> >> I found the best motherboard for dual pentium pros is a new one from >> >> SuperMicro. It can be had for just $875 from Micro Assist. It has >> >> 8 SIMM 72 pin modules and 4 PCI and 4 ISA cards. Its model number is MBP6DNF >> >> Dual Pentum-Pro Natoma Motherboard from Micro-Assist 888-97-MICRO >> >> (processor Mag) (Full-AT Size). They also sell 32 meg SIMMS for 279 each. >> >> I'm planning on getting 4 32 meg boards for 128 meg of ram. >> > >> >Have you gotten one of these in your hands and actually started to use it? >> >The reason I have asked is prior history with SuperMicro products for me >> >has been someplace between mildly disatisfied with problems, to utterly >> >pissed off about quality. >> > >> >> No, I haven't. I still haven't decided which system to get. What types of >> problems did you encounter? > >Memory system related failures that where probabaly caused by poor >testing of the PBurst cache chips at the factory. Replacing the >cache modules often fixed the boards. > >> Were they fixable or did you have to live with the problem. > >Having to return > 5% of incoming boards that failed testing is >not a viable option for an OEM. I simply discontiuned the product >line. You could say the problem was ``fixable'', but having to deal >with RMA's on a continuale basis was just not reasonable for me to do. > > >-- >Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com >Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > Thanks for letting me know. I'll look for alternatives. It looks like ASUS came up with one recently. Jacob From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 11:20:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07775 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07770 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA02723; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:21:41 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:21:40 +0000 () From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Ditto 3200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone gotten it to work with the included controller, or will it just work with the floppy controller already in the computer? ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "It is well established that the loss of First Amendment freedoms, for even minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes irreparable injury." Hohe v. Casey, 868 F. 2d 69, at p. 72, 73 (3d Cir. 1989) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 12:16:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA09593 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09583 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id OAA00804; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:12:14 -0500 Received: from novell(192.2.2.201) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000801; Sat Jun 15 15:11:51 1996 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 15 Jun 96 15:08:14 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 15 Jun 96 15:07:57 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: Thomas J Balfe , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:07:50 EST Subject: Re: Ditto 3200 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-ID: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Thomas J Balfe > Has anyone gotten it to work with the included controller, or will it > just work with the floppy controller already in the computer? > In order for the Ditto 3200 to work at maximmum speed/capacity it requires a floppy controller capable of much higher performance than what is typically built onto motherboards. The Intel/NEC chip on the provided ISA card is evidently a faster floppy controller that can handle the transfer speed of the drive. This chip is faster than even the 2.88-capable floppy controllers on most boards. I would love to get rid of the thing as there are several devices vying for my limited number of ISA slots. If you have the card accessible to you, could you post the chip number? It might help somebody more knowledgable than I provide you with information. BTW, I am NOT using a 3200 with FreeBSD (and I am truly ashamed to tell you what I am using it with). I wish they made it in a SCSI version. ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 12:20:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA09779 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09771 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17153 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id OAA00805; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:12:14 -0500 Received: from novell(192.2.2.201) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id smaa00801; Sat Jun 15 15:11:51 1996 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 15 Jun 96 15:08:14 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Sat, 15 Jun 96 15:07:57 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: Thomas J Balfe , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:07:49 EST Subject: Re: Ditto 3200 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-ID: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Thomas J Balfe > Has anyone gotten it to work with the included controller, or will it > just work with the floppy controller already in the computer? > In order for the Ditto 3200 to work at maximmum speed/capacity it requires a floppy controller capable of much higher performance than what is typically built onto motherboards. The Intel/NEC chip on the provided ISA card is evidently a faster floppy controller that can handle the transfer speed of the drive. This chip is faster than even the 2.88-capable floppy controllers on most boards. I would love to get rid of the thing as there are several devices vying for my limited number of ISA slots. If you have the card accessible to you, could you post the chip number? It might help somebody more knowledgable than I provide you with information. BTW, I am NOT using a 3200 with FreeBSD (and I am truly ashamed to tell you what I am using it with). I wish they made it in a SCSI version. ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 12:48:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12327 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12304 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA03645; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:49:06 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:49:05 +0000 () From: Thomas J Balfe To: David Alderman cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ditto 3200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Someone mentioned to me that Conner makes a SCSI version that uses the same TR-3 tapes, I'm going to look into that one too. The chip has the following markings on it: S820781C L5471074 (c)NEC'79 (m)(m)'86'92 ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "It is well established that the loss of First Amendment freedoms, for even minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes irreparable injury." Hohe v. Casey, 868 F. 2d 69, at p. 72, 73 (3d Cir. 1989) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 18:57:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00899 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00894 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA10415; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:57:28 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606160227.LAA10415@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Ditto 3200 To: tbalfe@tioga.com (Thomas J Balfe) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:57:27 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Thomas J Balfe" at Jun 15, 96 02:21:40 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thomas J Balfe stands accused of saying: > > Has anyone gotten it to work with the included controller, or will it > just work with the floppy controller already in the computer? "work" and "floppy tape" do _not_ belong in the same sentence. Don't waste your time with it, junk it and buy a SCSI tape. > Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com Sheesh. This is getting to be like -questions. 8( -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 20:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08883 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08775; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA14100; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606160344.UAA14100@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: port-i386@netbsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com Followup-To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com Subject: write-through bit for 486's with write-back cache Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:44:18 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't find this anywhere on AMD's or Intel's web sites. Their programming docs are pathetically lacking in the web access category. On the AMD "enhanced" 486DX4 and 5x86 chips, they have write-back on-chip cache. However, they mention a bit in CR0 called "PWT" that supposedly makes all cache lines always marked "shared", which effectively makes the cache write-through. Does anyone have a technical reference or programmer's manual for either the AMD 486DX4, 5x86, or Intel 486DX4 chips that specifically details CR0 and this "PWT" bit? I'm assuming the Intel 486DX4 "writeback-enhanced" chips use the same CR0 bit. Hopefully I am assuming correctly. Alternatively, does anyone have a Pentium programmer's manual they could look in to see if they Pentium has this PWT bit in it's CR0 register. Thanks for your help... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 23:08:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18380 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA18371; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com by lserver.infoworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0uVCFA-000wz5C; Sun, 16 Jun 96 00:27 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.infoworld.com id AA834905202; Sun, 16 Jun 96 01:06:22 PST Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 01:06:22 PST From: "Brett Glass" Message-Id: <9605158349.AA834905202@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com, port-i386@netbsd.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: write-through bit for 486's with write-back cache Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cyrix will gladly provide you with the answer to this one. If it's not on their Web pages, it's in their docs. Cyrix was, after all, first with a write-back cache. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 15 23:56:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA21375 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21364; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA14419; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606160654.XAA14419@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Brett Glass" cc: port-i386@netbsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: write-through bit for 486's with write-back cache In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 16 Jun 96 01:06:22 -0800. <9605158349.AA834905202@ccgate.infoworld.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:54:54 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Cyrix will gladly provide you with the answer to this one. If it's not on >their Web pages, it's in their docs. Cyrix was, after all, first with a >write-back cache. Right. They'll all happily send me the info, but I can't find this level of programming info on any of their sites. And, I want to know right now, dammit! :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------