From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 15:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18839 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kirk.edmweb.com (kirk.edmweb.com [204.244.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18834 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by kirk.edmweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06489; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a multi-port serial card for 8 (or more) 28.8 kbps modems. It'll be plugged into a 16 meg Pentium-100, running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R. Any recommendations as to what is most cost effective? ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP Fingerprint: 11 C8 9D 1C D6 72 87 E6 8C 09 EC 52 44 3F 88 30 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 15:34:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20396 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20391 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zot.io.org (taob@zot.io.org [198.133.36.82]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00935; Sun, 12 May 1996 18:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 18:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Michael Dillon cc: FREEBSD-ISP-L Subject: Re: Any inn1.4unoff4 on 2.1R caveats? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 5 May 1996, Michael Dillon wrote: > > Is it possible that an absolute limit of the number of newsgroups > has been passed? Might cause a wild pointer or something? Unlikely... there are less than 9000 newsgroups here. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 17:48:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29719 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29714 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01376; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:54:50 -0300 Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:54:50 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: Steve Reid cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try a Cyclades Cyclom 8Y or 16Y. They are very good. Luiz On Sun, 12 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > I'm looking for a multi-port serial card for 8 (or more) 28.8 kbps modems. > It'll be plugged into a 16 meg Pentium-100, running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R. > > Any recommendations as to what is most cost effective? > > ===================================================================== > | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | > | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | > | PGP Fingerprint: 11 C8 9D 1C D6 72 87 E6 8C 09 EC 52 44 3F 88 30 | > | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | > ===================================================================:) > From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 20:47:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA10193 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10187 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 20:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id UAA18806 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 20:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Mon, 13 May 1996 03:44:36 GMT Received: from hummer.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Mon, 13 May 1996 03:30:56 GMT Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 03:30:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: Steve Reid cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I must surely recomend the Cyclom cards, they have a wide variety of cards, well supported for FreeBSD. you can find more info on those cards at: http://www.cyclades.com On Sun, 12 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 15:02:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Reid > To: isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? > > I'm looking for a multi-port serial card for 8 (or more) 28.8 kbps modems. > It'll be plugged into a 16 meg Pentium-100, running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R. > > Any recommendations as to what is most cost effective? > > ===================================================================== > | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | > | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | > | PGP Fingerprint: 11 C8 9D 1C D6 72 87 E6 8C 09 EC 52 44 3F 88 30 | > | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | > ===================================================================:) > Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count, and those who don't ! From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 21:08:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11531 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11526 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA01075 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:08:09 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 13 May 96 14:08:07 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.22 beta); 13 May 96 14:08:00 -1000 From: "PETER STUBBS" Organization: St Aidan's AGS To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:08:00 -1000, EST Subject: harvest cached configuration question Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) Message-ID: <751C0D28A4@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I've got harvest cached v1.4 running with CERN httpd, but there are a couple of things I can't make sence of. I'm running the server in a school, so CERN's ability to ban sites is a must. The host machine is also a firewall, so I was using CERN to proxy as well. These are my three needs, caching, banning and proxying. CERN will do all three, but it's slow & buggy. I configured cached as a cache accelerator, but it gave an error when I used it. The error said that the request was in the wrong format. When I make it a proxy accelerator, it works fine, but doesn't pass the requests that aren't in the cache to CERN, it just goes & fetches them by itself. It does go to CERN only if the requested info is on the local server. The other problem is that it clears out its cache when it's restarted. I'd *much* rather keep the cached info. Anyone got some ideas? I've tried to RTFM, but to no use. TIA Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 12 21:56:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA16498 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jennifer.pernet.net (root@jennifer.pernet.net [205.229.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16492 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (neal@localhost) by jennifer.pernet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA13519; Sun, 12 May 1996 23:51:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 23:51:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Neal Rigney To: Steve Reid cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > I'm looking for a multi-port serial card for 8 (or more) 28.8 kbps modems. > It'll be plugged into a 16 meg Pentium-100, running FreeBSD 2.1.0-R. > > Any recommendations as to what is most cost effective? > Definately the Cyclades Cyclom-8y. You can get them rather cheap, and we've had excellent experiences with them. We have 4 16y's running right now with absolutely no problems. You also might see if they have an ISP program. We've been getting ours for about $499 for a 16 port board. -- Neal Rigney, PERnet Communications, (409)729-4638 neal@mail.pernet.net My opinions are mine, damnit! PERnet can't have them! From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 02:56:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA08455 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08439 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with ESMTP id MAA03170; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:53:07 +0300 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id MAA27191; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:50:00 +0300 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by acc0.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25848; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:54:07 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id MAA08051; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:53:15 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199605130953.MAA08051@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? To: neal@mail.pernet.net (Neal Rigney) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 12:53:15 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: steve@edmweb.com, isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Neal Rigney" at May 12, 96 11:51:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello people, # > Any recommendations as to what is most cost effective? # > # Definately the Cyclades Cyclom-8y. You can get them rather cheap, and # we've had excellent experiences with them. We have 4 16y's running right # now with absolutely no problems. You also might see if they have an ISP # program. We've been getting ours for about $499 for a 16 port board. Just another variation of the same question. We here need a PCI(!) 16port serial board. I got the dilemma -- which one to look for, either Cyclades or Stallion product. What will you people vote for and why? # # -- # Neal Rigney, PERnet Communications, (409)729-4638 # neal@mail.pernet.net # My opinions are mine, damnit! PERnet can't have them! # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 03:00:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA08653 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 03:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyburbia.bns.com.au (cyburbia.bns.com.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08527 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from justin@localhost) by cyburbia.bns.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA02121; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:20:15 GMT Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:20:14 +0000 () From: Justin Viiret To: PETER STUBBS cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question In-Reply-To: <751C0D28A4@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 May 1996, PETER STUBBS wrote: > I configured cached as a cache accelerator, but it gave an error when > I used it. The error said that the request was in the wrong format. > When I make it a proxy accelerator, it works fine, but doesn't pass > the requests that aren't in the cache to CERN, it just goes & fetches > them by itself. It does go to CERN only if the requested info is on > the local server. If you configure it both as a proxy and as an http accelerator, you need to set your httpd to a different port; otherwise things get a little cofused :) To force the cache to talk to CERN only and not fetch objects itself, use the inside_firewall option in the config... all objects not matching the criteria get passed to the parent cache. > The other problem is that it clears out its cache when it's > restarted. I'd *much* rather keep the cached info. Erm... sounds like an old version; pick up a new one, the newest versions keep their data between restarts. You might also want to look at Squid, which is a new cached developed from the harvest cached source... it's at http://www.nlanr.net/Squid/ if I remember correctly. /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services | | justin@cyburbia.bns.com.au Co-sysadmin | | http://cyburbia.bns.com.au/~justin A96 Music Competition (dis)Organiser | \------------------[Relax, it's only ones and zeroes.]--------------------/ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 04:43:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA14157 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 04:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marikit.iphil.net (map@marikit.iphil.net [203.176.0.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA14147 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 04:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from map@localhost) by marikit.iphil.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01786; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:39:59 +0800 From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Message-Id: <199605131139.TAA01786@marikit.iphil.net> Subject: Re: Recommendations for 8-10 port serial card? To: neal@mail.pernet.net (Neal Rigney) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:39:59 +0800 (GMT+0800) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Neal Rigney" at May 12, 96 11:51:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Neal Rigney wrote: > Definately the Cyclades Cyclom-8y. You can get them rather cheap, and > we've had excellent experiences with them. We have 4 16y's running right > now with absolutely no problems. You also might see if they have an ISP > program. We've been getting ours for about $499 for a 16 port board. Would the PCI version be supported? We're running quite a number of Cyclades cards, PCI and not, on Linux. Which driver are you using - the one in the kernel, or - I remember seeing another, unofficial driver. -- miguel a.l. paraz iphil communications, makati city, tech problems, to philippines. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 04:51:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA14624 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 04:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA14619 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 04:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id HAA10428; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:52:52 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199605131152.HAA10428@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question To: PETERS@staidan.qld.edu.au (PETER STUBBS) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 07:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <751C0D28A4@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> from "PETER STUBBS" at May 13, 96 02:08:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I configured cached as a cache accelerator, but it gave an error when > I used it. The error said that the request was in the wrong format. > When I make it a proxy accelerator, it works fine, but doesn't pass > the requests that aren't in the cache to CERN, it just goes & fetches > them by itself. It does go to CERN only if the requested info is on > the local server. I have never seen a configuration where it will pass the requests on. I use it with a local modem to provide proxy and cacheing support for my company. I am not aware of it's ability to block certian sites. You might look at a perl cache program called ichthus. It does have blocking, proxying, and caching. > > The other problem is that it clears out its cache when it's > restarted. I'd *much* rather keep the cached info. One thing is to make sure that you shut down the cache cleanly.. if it is aborted, I believe it looses its tables and will cleanout the cache. FreeBSD would benefit from the SYS V startup and shutdown setup ( /etc/rc.d, /etc/init.d, /etc/rc1.d etc.. ) for these types of things. -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 05:03:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA15286 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 05:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marikit.iphil.net (map@marikit.iphil.net [203.176.0.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15223 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from map@localhost) by marikit.iphil.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01755; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:35:38 +0800 From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Message-Id: <199605131135.TAA01755@marikit.iphil.net> Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question To: PETERS@staidan.qld.edu.au (PETER STUBBS) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:35:38 +0800 (GMT+0800) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <751C0D28A4@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> from "PETER STUBBS" at May 13, 96 02:08:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk PETER STUBBS wrote: > I'm running the server in a school, so CERN's ability to ban sites is > a must. The host machine is also a firewall, so I was using CERN to > proxy as well. These are my three needs, caching, banning and > proxying. CERN will do all three, but it's slow & buggy. Switch to Squid -- http://www.nlanr.net/Squid/ or echo subscribe | mail squid-users-request@nlanr.net. This is the latest generation of the Harvest cache. It proxies very well, can ban sites with its Access Control Lists, and best of all, development is still active! -- miguel a.l. paraz iphil communications, makati city, tech problems, to philippines. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 11:32:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA11628 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chloe.dmv.com (root@chloe.dmv.com [206.30.64.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11623 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chloe.dmv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA18770; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:06:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:06:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Reply-To: patrick@chloe.dmv.com Organization: DelMarVa Online From: Patrick Ferguson To: Bryan Ogawa at Work Subject: Re: POP timeout Cc: Jason Fesler , , Bruce Bauman Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, I'd like to say that I had accidentally started this thread because I was messing with the settings on XFmail and it was sending the mail as soon as I clicked on the reply to button. However, I'm glad I did because several of the message have explained why using pop has been so difficult.>situation leads to disk thrashing as a simple (and reasonably fast, on >their end, as the pop client only sends new mail) check new mail every 4 >minutes generates huge disk bandwidth. > >Other than telling customers DON'T DO THAT, do you guys have any other >suggestions? > >> > >> >-- >> > Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com >> > Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com >> > I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com >> > Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com >> DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >> Version: 2.6.2 >> >> mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso >> F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz >> b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= >> =AgnQ >> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >> >> > >Bryan K. Ogawa >Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net >Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= =AgnQ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 12:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA16275 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16269 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA12391; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:44:15 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199605131944.PAA12391@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question To: map@iphil.net (Miguel A.L. Paraz) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: PETERS@staidan.qld.edu.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605131135.TAA01755@marikit.iphil.net> from "Miguel A.L. Paraz" at May 13, 96 07:35:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This is the latest generation of the Harvest cache. > It proxies very well, can ban sites with its Access Control Lists, Umm.. I though that this just limited machines that could use the server as a proxy.. not sites that it could or could not proxy. -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 13:43:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA20535 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 13:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20524 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tushar@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA02157 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:46:06 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199605131546.PAA02157@ecpi.com> Subject: Help: "/kernel: in_rtqtimo adjust ..... To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:46:06 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I started getting following message on my console /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2100 /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 Has anybody seen this? Can anybody tell me what is this? Should I be worried about this? Please help. Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 13:53:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA21539 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21526 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 13:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA12600; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:53:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:53:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: Jason Fesler cc: Patrick Ferguson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: POP timeout In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960510150634.006f8844@jpop.calweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm.. how do other popd's handle large mailboxes without problems, or do they? On Fri, 10 May 1996, Jason Fesler wrote: > At 07:38 PM 5/9/96 -0600, Stephen Fisher wrote: > > > >Well, that's good to know, now how do we fix it? Switch to another > >popd? Change something in qpopper? > > Changing the Eudora timeout settings to be more lenient *can* help, but > it's still one of those no-win situations. I'm presently developing a > non-Berkeley mail system compatibile popmail box. It would require > popclient as a frontend for the unix folks to use, as the storage system > would be similiar to a news system (index file, plus one file per message.. > *fast* response, but just as ugly as a news system would be). > > May not be the brightest way to do it, but I can open a 20 meg mailbox in > just a second or so :-) > > Note that I am not ready to release it. It's still a rough project, and I'm > not ready in the least bit to support it in it's current state. It's > presently going through alpha testing with a few of the staff here. I also > have not yet addressed things like mail forwarding and remote administration > by the user [the goal is to have the mail machine not to use NFS at all, but > to be an autonomous system - it won't have access to ~user/.forward files ..] > > -- > Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com > Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com > I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com > Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 14:01:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22358 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22340 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devnull.calweb.com (devnull.calweb.com [165.90.138.92]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01728; Mon, 13 May 1996 13:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960513210007.006a8d40@jpop.calweb.com> X-Sender: jfesler@jpop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:00:07 -0700 To: Stephen Fisher From: Jason Fesler Subject: Re: POP timeout Cc: Patrick Ferguson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Bruce Bauman Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:53 PM 5/13/96 -0600, Stephen Fisher wrote: >Hmmm.. how do other popd's handle large mailboxes without problems, or do >they? > I'm not even aware of other popd's other than the standard popper (now qpopper) sources. Faster machines can handle larger boxes; likewise, tollerance of the mail client (in there preferences on how long to wait) can affect how big the mailbox can get before there's a problem.. I have heard of pop/smtp-only servers, but they were running NT. I've never seen anything really optimal under Unix geared for the more demanding mail environments of some of our users. [We _are_ alpha testing the one I wrote now with a select group of people on our own system, with good luck so far, but we still have some technical/political hurdles to jump over, ie mail forwarding on a box that won't/can't see people's home directories and .forward files..] -- Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 16:05:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04425 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warp10.smartlink.net (smartlink.net [204.118.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04413 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by warp10.smartlink.net(8.6.12/SMARTLINK-1.0) with id QAA03693 for on Mon, 13 May 1996 16:06:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph McDonald To: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" cc: PETER STUBBS , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question In-Reply-To: <199605131135.TAA01755@marikit.iphil.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 May 1996, Miguel A.L. Paraz wrote: > PETER STUBBS wrote: > > > I'm running the server in a school, so CERN's ability to ban sites is > > a must. The host machine is also a firewall, so I was using CERN to > > proxy as well. These are my three needs, caching, banning and > > proxying. CERN will do all three, but it's slow & buggy. > > Switch to Squid -- http://www.nlanr.net/Squid/ > or echo subscribe | mail squid-users-request@nlanr.net. Speaking of cached proxy servers, does anyone know a way to force it's use without the end user having to specify a proxy server in netscape? Somehow rewriting tcpip packets to port 80 to get redirected to the proxy server instead of going out the router? Thanks, -joe From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 16:58:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA08864 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08838 Mon, 13 May 1996 16:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Mon, 13 May 1996 23:58:12 GMT Received: from caliber.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Mon, 13 May 1996 23:44:39 GMT Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:44:39 GMT Message-Id: <199605132344.XAA10362@hummer.islandia.is> X-Sender: gestur@islandia.is X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: hsu@clinet.fi From: gestur@islandia.is (Gestur A Grjetarsson) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, tbalfe@tioga.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone out there, following some inqueries about the PCI cyclom multi serial port, I emailed the sales@cyclades for info about their cards, here is the list I got on the supported OS's up to date: >Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT) >From: sales@cyclades.com > >Our PCI board will not support FreeBsd at this time. The driver that it >supportsis Windows NT, LINUX, SCO Openserver 5. hope this gives you the req. info. Međ kveđju, Best regards, ----------------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is Islandia, Grensásvegur 7, 2h.t.h., 108 Reykjavik sími 5884020, modem 5884120, fax 5884014 http://www.islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/english.htm http://www.islandia.is/skvopn From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 20:55:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA03344 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03284 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA07369 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 13:54:32 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 14 May 96 13:54:28 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.22 beta); 14 May 96 13:54:00 -1000 From: "PETER STUBBS" Organization: St Aidan's AGS To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 13:53:53 -1000, EST Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question (thanks) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) Message-ID: <8CE20339EC@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, Thanks for all the replies. I now have squid running smoothly. It does all I asked for and even gives nice descriptions when it can't return an object. I found that 5 dns servers didn't seem to be enough at peak load, so I've taken that out to 15. Thanks again, you can't buy help like these lists give Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 13 21:55:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08714 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08704 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tushar@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA13952 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:58:23 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199605132358.XAA13952@ecpi.com> Subject: help: "/kernel: in_rtqtimo adjust...." To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:58:23 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I started getting following message on my console /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2100 /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 Has anybody seen this? Can anybody tell me what is this? Should I be worried about this? Please help. Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 03:51:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA28825 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 03:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28819 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 03:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA01974; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:39:57 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 20:39:57 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: PETER STUBBS cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question In-Reply-To: <751C0D28A4@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ditch Harvest and use squid. ftp://www.unimelb.edu.au/pub/cwis/servers/unix/squid/ Squid is sort of cached, the next generation. It has really good access control facilities, right down to days of the week, and hours of the day. It also has fast restart - 30 seconds or less, with cache config reload in the background. Like cached it is a single, non-forking process. The catch is that it is really RAM hungry. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 04:07:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA00405 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 04:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00396 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 04:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA02017; Tue, 14 May 1996 21:07:40 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 21:07:40 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Branson Matheson cc: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" , PETERS@staidan.qld.edu.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: harvest cached configuration question In-Reply-To: <199605131944.PAA12391@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 May 1996, Branson Matheson wrote: > > > > Squid is the latest generation of the Harvest cache. > > It proxies very well, can ban sites with its Access Control Lists, > > Umm.. I though that this just limited machines that could use the > server as a proxy.. not sites that it could or could not proxy. Nope. I added patches to cached for blocking destination, and you can block on almost anything with Squid. We are even working on allowing people to use you as a neighbour but not as a parent. (i.e. permit TCP_HIT but not TCP_MISS) Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 06:37:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09516 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 06:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neptune.pristine.com.tw ([192.72.150.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09511 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from team_fbf@localhost) by neptune.pristine.com.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA01656; Tue, 14 May 1996 21:36:42 GMT From: ywliu Message-Id: <199605142136.VAA01656@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Subject: Re: help: "/kernel: in_rtqtimo adjust...." To: tushar@ecpi.com (Tushar Patel) Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 21:36:41 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605132358.XAA13952@ecpi.com> from "Tushar Patel" at May 13, 96 11:58:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I started getting following message on my console > > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2100 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 > > Has anybody seen this? Yes. I have seen this several times on my machines. > Can anybody tell me what is this? Someone was kind enough to tell me its meaning. I forgot. But ... > Should I be worried about this? > it's a harmless (just informative) message. Don't worry about it. Yen-Wei Liu From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 09:03:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA20252 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 09:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20244 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 09:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.haplink.co.cn (www.haplink.co.cn [202.96.192.52]) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA12275 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 00:08:31 GMT Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by www.haplink.co.cn (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA29374 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 May 1995 01:08:25 +0900 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 01:08:25 +0900 From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199505141608.BAA29374@www.haplink.co.cn> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: How can I redirect mail to other directory? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The original new mail reach my host all rested in /var/mail, located in / directory. Unfortunately, my / directory is not large enough to hold some large mail, usually make my host out of space or file full. I am trying many mathods to redirect the mail to other directory which has more space such as /usr/spool/mail, but all failed. If someone has such experices, would you please give me a favior. Thanks a lot. --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 11:19:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA00273 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 11:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.nsta.org (ptavv.gfoster.com [199.0.2.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00268 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 11:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by ptavv.nsta.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA00603; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 14:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Glen Foster Message-Id: <199605141818.OAA00603@ptavv.nsta.org> To: xiyuan@www.haplink.co.cn CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199505141608.BAA29374@www.haplink.co.cn> (message from xiyuan qian on Mon, 15 May 1995 01:08:25 +0900) Subject: Re: How can I redirect mail to other directory? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kick all your users off the system, then do this (as root) kill -9 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid` cd /var mv -f mail/* /usr/spool/mail rm -rf mail ln -s /usr/spool/mail mail chmod 755 /usr/spool/mail /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m >Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 01:08:25 +0900 >From: xiyuan qian > > Hi, The original new mail reach my host all rested in /var/mail, >located in / directory. Unfortunately, my / directory is not large >enough to hold some large mail, usually make my host out of space or >file full. I am trying many mathods to redirect the mail to other >directory which has more space such as /usr/spool/mail, but all >failed. If someone has such experices, would you please give me a >favior. Thanks a lot. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 14 16:02:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20036 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 14 May 1996 16:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19977 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00441; Tue, 14 May 1996 16:01:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 16:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Tushar Patel cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help: "/kernel: in_rtqtimo adjust ..... In-Reply-To: <199605131546.PAA02157@ecpi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I started getting following message on my console > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 2100 > /kernel: in_rtqtimo: adjusted rtq_reallyold to 710 > Has anybody seen this? > Can anybody tell me what is this? > Should I be worried about this? I believe this is the kernel figuring out how long to keep stale ARP entries before deciding that they really are stale. I've seen those messages, and I'm still alive. Nothing to worry about. One message I've been getting in /var/log/messages really has me stumped: syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument Not exactly descriptive. It doesn't happen very often, but it happens. I don't know what it's associated with... Here's a grep of the log files: /var/log/messages.0:May 7 20:08:31 kirk syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument /var/log/messages.0:May 8 17:38:10 kirk syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument /var/log/messages.3:Apr 15 19:03:27 kirk syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument /var/log/messages.3:Apr 15 19:05:25 kirk syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument /var/log/messages.3:Apr 17 19:59:26 kirk syslog: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument Kirk is our primary DNS and mail machine. It doesn't happen on our other machine, or on my home machine. Any idea what that message is? ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 09:10:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA28242 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tchnet.tchnet.com (tchnet.tchnet.com [198.109.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA28233 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dashadow@localhost) by tchnet.tchnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA28240; Wed, 15 May 1996 12:09:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:09:11 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hart To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Support for Ethernet Card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a new ethernet card here for my server, but when I put it in, I found out that FreeBSD does not support it. Does anyone know where I could get a driver for it? It is a 3C590C Bus Master PCI from 3Com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hart, System Administrator Technet Internet Services dashadow@tchnet.com (517)796-8200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 09:23:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA29178 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29173 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA11192; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:37:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: xiyuan qian cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can I redirect mail to other directory? In-Reply-To: <199505141608.BAA29374@www.haplink.co.cn> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 May 1995, xiyuan qian wrote: > Hi, The original new mail reach my host all rested in /var/mail, located > in / directory. Unfortunately, my / directory is not large enough to > hold some large mail, usually make my host out of space or file full. I > am trying many mathods to redirect the mail to other directory which has > more space such as /usr/spool/mail, but all failed. If someone has such > experices, would you please give me a favior. Thanks a lot. mv /var/mail /var/omail mkdir /usr/spool/mail ln -s /usr/spool/mail /var/mail mv /var/omail/* /var/mail Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 10:10:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA05223 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gds.de (ns.gds.de [194.77.222.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05192 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.gds.de (pluto.gds.de [194.77.222.13]) by gds.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA12909 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:08:38 GMT Message-Id: <199605151908.TAA12909@gds.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Gresek" Organization: GRESEK DATA SYSTEMS To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:10:03 +01:0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: remote printers Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have tried to configure printers on our host for remote printig. ns.gds.de (194.77.222.14) ist the printer-host bfp2.bfp.de is the local machine that should use the network-printer The printcaps of both of them are appended at the end of this mail. Spooling on the local machine works fine but the print job is never sent to the printer host. I alway get messages like 'bfp2.bfp.de: waiting for queue to be enabled on ns.gds.de' or 'ns.gds.de: lpd: Your host does not have line printer access.' Printing and spooling on ns.gds.de works. Have I to tell the host which other hosts are allowed to use the printer? Or what else is wrong here? Thanks in advance Richard # printcap on bfp2.bfp.de rmlp|lj4p|HP LeserJet 4P:\ :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpdrm:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :lp=:sf:rm=ns.gds.de:rp=lp: ========================================= # printcap on ns.gds.de lp|lj4p|HP LeserJet 4P:\ :sh:sd=/usr/spool/lpd/lj4p:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sf: GRESEK DATA SYSTEMS Hauptstrasse 2 D-56271 Kleinmaischeid Germany Tel.: +49 2689 959120 Fax: +49 2689 959122 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 11:05:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10112 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 11:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from InfoWest.COM (infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10105; Wed, 15 May 1996 11:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agifford (zaketh.uv.com [204.17.177.95]) by InfoWest.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24336; Wed, 15 May 1996 12:16:35 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960515180428.009e7378@infowest.com> X-Sender: agifford@infowest.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:04:28 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Subject: What think ye of this? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hola, Any of you FreeBSD-ers care to tell me where I might find some good prices on a system like I describe below? Any of you have any comments, suggestions, bewares, avoids, or recommends? My only real requirements are that the system be FAST and RELIABLE, and its hardware has got to be supported in FreeBSD-Stable. CPU: Pentium 166 OR PentiumPro 200 (Are any of the "fixed" PPro200 motherboards on the market yet? I'd REALLY like to go PPro200 if possible) Memory: 128MB RAM (What options are there here? What gives the best performance? EDO? What size cache? 512K, 256K, 1MB? Sync. Pipeline Burst?) Motherboard: As many PCI slots as possible, good, fast, reliable chipsets, good PCI bus throughput, needs to support LOTS o' RAM and have free slots so I can bump up to at LEAST 256MB. Case/Power: I want a spacious tower with FANS, FANS, FANS to keep down the heat. A reliable power supply with plenty 'o extra capacity will do. I/O: Two decent high-speed (115200) serial ports will do me fine. SCSI Controller: One Adaptec 2940UW (PCI) (Should I go Ultra, or just Wide?) Hard Drives: Two 4-Gig 7200 RPM high-performance SCSI Fast&Wide/Ultra HD's should get me by to start with (What's fast and RELIABLE? Quantum? Seagate Barracuda?) CD-ROM: Almost any good 6x SCSI CD-ROM that'll talk to me SCSI controller Video: I really don't care so long as it doesn't break anything, since I'll likely never use anything but text mode. Mouse: Not required Keyboard: Almost anything that isn't going to break and that has a decent feel Network: One PCI 100Mb/10Mb ethernet controller (Opinions on the 3Com, SMC, and other choices would be helpful!) Again, thanks for ANY and ALL comments! Sincerely, Aaron Gifford --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- Aaron D. Gifford InfoWest, 1845 W. Sunset Blvd, St. George, UT 84770 InfoWest Networking Phone: (801) 674-0165 FAX: (801) 673-9734 Visit InfoWest at: "http://www.infowest.com/" ICBM: 37.07847 N, 113.57858 W "Southern Utah's Finest Network Connection" --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 14:02:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22302 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22294 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA27489; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:57:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 14:57:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: John Hart cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is a kernel patch available for the 3c590 PCI 3com. E-mail the person who wrote it (fgray@rice.edu) and ask for the files and/or web site which explains how to patch it in. On Wed, 15 May 1996, John Hart wrote: > > I have a new ethernet card here for my server, but when I put it in, I > found out that FreeBSD does not support it. Does anyone know where I > could get a driver for it? > > It is a 3C590C Bus Master PCI from 3Com. > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 14:47:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25434 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.vbc.net (uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25422 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by uk1.vbc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA20310; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:46:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 22:46:22 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Dixon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 May 1996, John Hart wrote: > I have a new ethernet card here for my server, but when I put it in, I > found out that FreeBSD does not support it. Does anyone know where I > could get a driver for it? > > It is a 3C590C Bus Master PCI from 3Com. There is support for the 3C590 in the snapshot release, but we have found it to be unstable. Is there a reliable driver for the '590 available anywhere? What would be of even more interest would be a reliable driver for the 3C595, which handles either 10 MHz 10BaseT or 100 MHz Fast Ethernet. -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 14:48:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25649 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25643 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 14:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA04997; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 15 May 96 16:48 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 15 May 96 16:48 CDT Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:48:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash X-Sender: nash@Mercury.mcs.com To: Richard Gresek cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote printers In-Reply-To: <199605151908.TAA12909@gds.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Have I to tell the host which other hosts are allowed to use the > printer? Or what else is wrong here? Add the host bfp2.bfp.de to /etc/hosts.lpd. Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 16:14:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01631 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01616 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00420; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:14:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Logging pppd connect & disconnect Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? I'm running pppd from an entry in /etc/ttys, using PAP to authenticate. I need to keep track of how much time each user is using, for billing purposes. I don't need anything fancy- I'm perfectly happy to write my own little proggie to scan the log files. All I need is some way to associate connect and disconnect times with the user name. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 18:28:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09990 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 18:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09985 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 18:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tushar@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA13583 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 May 1996 20:32:29 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> Subject: Login name longer then 8 character? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:32:29 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, How can I setup user login name larger than 8 characters? "adduser" script does not allow me to enter a name larger than 8 characters. What do I need to do to incorporate names larger than 8 characters. Do I need to do anything in the sendmail? Please help. Thanks Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 21:20:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA22002 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 21:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21995 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 21:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA21638; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:20:49 -0600 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 22:20:49 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605160420.WAA21638@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Steve Reid Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. Here's my password entry Ptrout:*:812:800:PPP Login for trout:/etc/ppp:/etc/ppp/Login-trout And /etc/ppp/Login-trout #!/bin/sh # # Specific login file for machines who want their stuff hard-coded # PATH=:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin export PATH ACCOUNT_FILE=/etc/ppp/trout.log mesg n stty -tostop echo "Start" `date` >> $ACCOUNT_FILE pppd `hostname`:trout debug echo "Stop" `date` >> $ACCOUNT_FILE Might work. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 21:55:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA23508 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 21:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23495 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 21:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00754; Wed, 15 May 1996 21:54:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:54:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Nate Williams cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: <199605160420.WAA21638@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? > > Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box > they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so > it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. Um, I'm not set up like that... The users don't log in like you'd expect, they don't even get a login prompt. They go straight into pppd. All authentication is done with PAP. It's done with a line in /etc/ttys: ttyd1 "/usr/sbin/pppd -detach 115200" unknown on secure This makes the winsock scripts extremely simple, but it doesn't leave much opertunity for customized logging. This is well-explained at http://www.ssimicro.com/~jeremyc/ppp.html. I knew this sort of setup (right into pppd, no login prompt) was possible, but I couldn't get it working until I read that web page. If necessary, I'll hack pppd to log connects and disconnects. But that's something I'd rather avoid if possible, as I have a hard time trying to grok other people's code. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 15 22:23:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA25262 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25257 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id WAA02712 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 22:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA21763; Wed, 15 May 1996 23:19:14 -0600 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 23:19:14 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605160519.XAA21763@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Steve Reid Cc: Nate Williams , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: References: <199605160420.WAA21638@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? > > > > Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box > > they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so > > it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. > > Um, I'm not set up like that... The users don't log in like you'd expect, > they don't even get a login prompt. They go straight into pppd. All > authentication is done with PAP. Ugh, I like keeping things 'simple' so I can debug them easier, and provide for greater flexibility. My modems can be used for *any* reason, including PPP accounts. But, I'm a young 'old-timer'. :) > If necessary, I'll hack pppd to log connects and disconnects. But that's > something I'd rather avoid if possible, as I have a hard time trying to > grok other people's code. It's *really* not that bad, and the best programmers I know are folks that have learned to gork other people's code. You learn more that way than in writing your own. (It's kind of like learning a musical instrument. You learn alot more and become a more rounded musician when playing with other people than in trying to do everything on your own.) FreeBSD code is generally pretty easy to hack on. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 05:53:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27123 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 05:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA27116 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 05:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 16 May 1996 12:53:22 GMT Received: from hummer.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Thu, 16 May 1996 12:38:57 GMT Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 12:38:57 +0000 (GMT) From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: Tushar Patel cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Login name longer then 8 character? In-Reply-To: <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Have you tried using a dot in the user loginname, like : user.username also, if you need to have an email address wich is longer than 8 chars, you can setup an alias for the email, wich rechieves the email and directs it to the appropriate user email box. /etc/aliases is the file you should be editing. On Wed, 15 May 1996, Tushar Patel wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:32:29 +0000 () > From: Tushar Patel > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Login name longer then 8 character? > > Hi, > > How can I setup user login name larger than 8 characters? > "adduser" script does not allow me to enter a name larger > than 8 characters. What do I need to do to incorporate names > larger than 8 characters. > > Do I need to do anything in the sendmail? > > Please help. > > Thanks > Tushar > Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count, and those who don't ! From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 07:35:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07995 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 07:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jennifer.pernet.net (root@jennifer.pernet.net [205.229.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07978 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (neal@localhost) by jennifer.pernet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10858; Thu, 16 May 1996 09:29:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 09:29:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Neal Rigney To: Steve Reid cc: Nate Williams , isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > It's done with a line in /etc/ttys: > > ttyd1 "/usr/sbin/pppd -detach 115200" unknown on secure > > This makes the winsock scripts extremely simple, but it doesn't leave > much opertunity for customized logging. > Out of curiosity, does Win95 work for you without scripting? Anyway, try using ip-up and ip-down for logging. Our machines aer set up to syslog to a master log machine. The ip-up script just does a "logger" command to log the info we want. ip-up gets passed ip address, ppp interface, etc. It also makes debugging a connection better, since it doesn't execute ip-up until after the interface is ready to send/receive packets. Also, I think the newest pppd (in -stable) logs the amount of time pppd was used to syslog. That may do close enough to what you want without any hassle. -- Neal Rigney, PERnet Communications, (409)729-4638 neal@mail.pernet.net My opinions are mine, damnit! PERnet can't have them! From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 07:55:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09553 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 07:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.nsta.org (ptavv.gfoster.com [199.0.2.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09547 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by ptavv.nsta.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA01150; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:54:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Glen Foster Message-Id: <199605161454.KAA01150@ptavv.nsta.org> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: userids longer than eight characters Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I deleted this thread in a frenzy of mail cleanup so I am not able to reply directly to the person who asked about this. Sorry. This has been discussed on the hackers list and details should be in the archives, basically, you have to change a define in a header and make world (sorry, I don't remember which one). Of course, doing this will render many packages and ports invalid without some massaging so it should be done with caution. --- Glen Foster From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 08:17:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA11172 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11165 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caught.inna.net (caught.inna.net [206.151.66.7]) by tyger.inna.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06743 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 11:17:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Arnold To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for People Looking for NewsServer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am just looking to see if anyone is interested in access to a newsserver? We are interested in selling connections to it if there are enough interested parties to make the upgrades needed worthwhile. If you are possibly interested, please email. Thanks. +-----------------------------------------------+ : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : : An ISP serving the Virginia Middle Penninsula : +-----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 08:46:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13096 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xs1.simplex.nl (xs1.simplex.NL [193.78.46.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13088 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Organisation-1: Simplex Networking Amsterdam X (Inter)Network X-Organisation-2: Kruislaan 419-38a 1098 VA Amsterdam X Solutions & X-Organisation-3: tel:+31(20)-6932433 fax:+31(20)-6685486 X Access Provider Received: (from rob@localhost) by xs1.simplex.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3-RS) id RAA16776; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:46:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 17:46:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Rob Simons Message-Id: <199605161546.RAA16776@xs1.simplex.nl> To: root@edmweb.com Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect Cc: isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | > > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? | > | > Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box | > they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so | > it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. | | Um, I'm not set up like that... The users don't log in like you'd expect, | they don't even get a login prompt. They go straight into pppd. All | authentication is done with PAP. Funny setup, but it limits the possibilities for dialup lines a bit .. Anyways, can't you use /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down for it ? #!/bin/sh # # interface tty speed localip remoteip echo `date`: machine $5 on tty $2 >> /etc/ppp/ppp-log Or whatever. I suppose that this is quite useless when you're using dynamic ip assignment, and want the 'user' name from the pap-secrets file. Maybe it's easier to hack in the 'user' name as an argument to ip-up than completely hack in a log function in pppd .. - Rob. /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ /* Rob Simons | rob@simplex.nl *\ /* ------------ | ------------- | -------- | ------- *\ /* Novell Netware System Operator | UNIX system operator *\ /*--------------------------------------------------------------*\ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 10:30:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA18748 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18739 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA07488; Thu, 16 May 1996 09:45:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: Jim Dixon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 May 1996, Jim Dixon wrote: > found it to be unstable. Is there a reliable driver for the '590 > available anywhere? > > What would be of even more interest would be a reliable driver for the > 3C595, which handles either 10 MHz 10BaseT or 100 MHz Fast Ethernet. There are Linux drivers for both 3C59X cards that are quite stable. Do an altavista search for Linux AND 3C590 AND Becker Perhaps they could be adapted to FreeBSD or perhaps studying their code could help make the FreeBSD drivers better? Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 10:42:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA19435 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saguaro.flyingfox.com (saguaro.flyingfox.com [204.188.109.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19428 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jas@localhost) by saguaro.flyingfox.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id KAA16620; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:37:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:37:51 -0700 From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199605161737.KAA16620@saguaro.flyingfox.com> To: gfoster@gfoster.com, xiyuan@www.haplink.co.cn Subject: Re: How can I redirect mail to other directory? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Glen Foster writes: > Kick all your users off the system, then do this (as root) > > kill -9 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid` > cd /var > mv -f mail/* /usr/spool/mail > rm -rf mail > ln -s /usr/spool/mail mail > chmod 755 /usr/spool/mail > /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q30m Why kill -9? Do you have actual experience with sendmail not responding to a SIGTERM, or do you just believe that programs should never be given a chance to shut down cleanly :-)? Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 11:01:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA20581 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20574 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous228.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.228]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA02223; Thu, 16 May 1996 19:41:43 +0200 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01836; Thu, 16 May 1996 18:48:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 18:48:16 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199605161648.SAA01836@campa.panke.de> To: Tushar Patel Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Login name longer then 8 character? In-Reply-To: <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> References: <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> Reply-to: Wolfram Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please read the mailing list archive http://www.freebsd.org/search.html lists -questions and -hackers, keywords 'adduser', 'username', 'terry' (e.g. 'adduser AND terry'). In short words: DO NOT USE USER LOGIN NAMES LARGER THAN 8 CHARACTERS. Wolfram >How can I setup user login name larger than 8 characters? > "adduser" script does not allow me to enter a name larger >than 8 characters. What do I need to do to incorporate names >larger than 8 characters. > >Do I need to do anything in the sendmail? > >Please help. > >Thanks >Tushar > > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 11:43:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23307 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.cis.upenn.edu (CENTRAL.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.12.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23302 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 11:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.cis.upenn.edu (AURORA.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.6.3]) by central.cis.upenn.edu (8.6.12/UPenn 1.4) with SMTP id OAA18676; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:42:58 -0400 Posted-Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:43:59 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960516184359.0068c434@aurora.cis.upenn.edu> X-Sender: jdchung@aurora.cis.upenn.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:43:59 -0400 To: Jim Dixon , FreeBSD Questions From: "Jeffrey D. Chung" Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:46 PM 5/15/96 +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: >There is support for the 3C590 in the snapshot release, but we have >found it to be unstable. Is there a reliable driver for the '590 >available anywhere? > >What would be of even more interest would be a reliable driver for the >3C595, which handles either 10 MHz 10BaseT or 100 MHz Fast Ethernet. Yes -- We've also found the 3C590 driver to be unreliable as well. Someone should probably port the Linux 3c59x driver to FreeBSD. It seems to fairly well-written. -Jeffrey. -- Jeffrey D. Chung University of Pennsylvania jdchung@dsl.cis.upenn.edu Distributed Systems Laboratory From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 12:21:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26660 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 12:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nervosa.com (root@nervosa.com [192.187.228.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26646 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 12:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.nervosa.com (coredump@onyx.nervosa.com [10.0.0.1]) by nervosa.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18218; Thu, 16 May 1996 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 12:21:06 -0700 (PDT) From: invalid opcode To: Jim Dixon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 May 1996, Jim Dixon wrote: > What would be of even more interest would be a reliable driver for the > 3C595, which handles either 10 MHz 10BaseT or 100 MHz Fast Ethernet. MHz? You mean mbps. > -- > Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 > http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 > == Chris Layne ======================================== Nervosa Computing == == coredump@nervosa.com ================ http://www.nervosa.com/~coredump == From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 13:50:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03287 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birdland.rhein-neckar.de (root@birdland.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.88.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03279 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by birdland.rhein-neckar.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA09450; Thu, 16 May 1996 22:48:05 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 22:48:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: BSD Mailinglisten-User To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: POP3-Problems with qpop 2.1.3-r3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I am running a small ISP using FreeBSD 2.1-stable. Recently, I get lots of complaints about problems getting mail using POP3. The syslog records several entries like May 16 22:00:02 mail popper[4711]: -ERR POP3 timeout These errors happen with all kinds of clients... Mozilla, Eudora etc. The only common thing seems to be Windows... Any ideas? Martin From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 15:10:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA09591 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA09585 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA12246 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:24:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Login name longer then 8 character? In-Reply-To: <199605161648.SAA01836@campa.panke.de> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 May 1996, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > In short words: DO NOT USE USER LOGIN NAMES LARGER THAN 8 CHARACTERS. But long email addresses are OK. Put stuff like webmaster: webmast al-khowarizmi: ak in /etc/aliases and run newaliases Nobody but you and al-khowarizmi need to know that his login account ID is ak. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 16:49:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17339 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itchy.mosquito.com (itchy.mosquito.com [206.205.132.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17326 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from boot@localhost) by itchy.mosquito.com (8.6.11/8.6.12) id TAA20817; Thu, 16 May 1996 19:50:49 -0400 From: Bruce Bauman Message-Id: <199605162350.TAA20817@itchy.mosquito.com> Subject: locked-up modem To: portmaster-users@livingston.com Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are using Livingston Portmaster 2E-30s with ComOS 3.3.1. We have 30 USR Sportsters attached, some 28.8 and some 33.6. Once in a while, we see a modem "lock up". The symptoms are that all of the lights on the modem are lit up solidly, and rlogind on our FreeBSD box eats up a fair amount of CPU. This only happens to shell account users. Is this a problem anyone has seen before? It only appears to happen to one specific customer, which seems weird. Any hints on how to figure this out? -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 18:57:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27371 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 18:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27363 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 18:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00228; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:57:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:57:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Neal Rigney cc: Nate Williams , isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It's done with a line in /etc/ttys: > > ttyd1 "/usr/sbin/pppd -detach 115200" unknown on secure > > This makes the winsock scripts extremely simple, but it doesn't leave > > much opertunity for customized logging. > > > Out of curiosity, does Win95 work for you without scripting? Haven't tried it with Win95 yet... Should I expect any problems????? I've got it working with my FreeBSD machine, and with a couple of Win 3.1 machines using Trumpet Winsock. Unfortunately, I don't have a win95 machine handy. :( I like this setup, because it doesn't require every user to have their own account with home directory etc on the FreeBSD terminal server box. Users still need accounts for mail, but that'll probably be on another machine anyway. > Anyway, try using ip-up and ip-down for logging. Our machines aer set up Hadn't thought of that... Hmm... [clickety-clickety "man pppd"]... It seems that the user name is not passed to that script. Using dynamic-IP, there's no way to associate the address with the username, and it's the username I need for billing purposes. > Also, I think the newest pppd (in -stable) logs the amount of time pppd > was used to syslog. That may do close enough to what you want without any > hassle. Sounds like it could work... But DOES IT LOG THE USERNAME? I'm beginning to doubt that I can do this unless I set aside some time to Use The Source. I'm really glad the source is available. :) ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 20:22:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA04317 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jennifer.pernet.net (root@jennifer.pernet.net [205.229.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04306 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (neal@localhost) by jennifer.pernet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA07622; Thu, 16 May 1996 22:17:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 22:17:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Neal Rigney Reply-To: Neal Rigney To: Steve Reid cc: Neal Rigney , Nate Williams , isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 May 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > > > It's done with a line in /etc/ttys: > > > ttyd1 "/usr/sbin/pppd -detach 115200" unknown on secure > > > This makes the winsock scripts extremely simple, but it doesn't leave > > > much opertunity for customized logging. > > > > > Out of curiosity, does Win95 work for you without scripting? > > Haven't tried it with Win95 yet... Should I expect any problems????? I've Dunno. I just haven't had the time to really try it out. > Hadn't thought of that... Hmm... [clickety-clickety "man pppd"]... It > seems that the user name is not passed to that script. Using dynamic-IP, > there's no way to associate the address with the username, and it's the > username I need for billing purposes. Well, I got around this in two ways, one ugly, and one that's just plain interesting: 1) I report the value of $UNAME, which is set to the user logging in. This wouldn't work in the case of a pppd run from init. :( 2) ip-up/down are called setuid to the user running pppd. logger automagically puts the username in. Same problem(I think) though. If init calls pppd, the user will still be root. Try it out though. > Sounds like it could work... But DOES IT LOG THE USERNAME? If you do it my way, it most definately works: May 14 10:25:15 ren login: login on ttycl as rgb May 14 10:25:22 ren rgb: login: rgb on /dev/ttycl using interface ppp16 May 14 10:25:46 ren rgb: logout: rgb on /dev/ttycl using interface ppp16 I could have it report the IP, but I really don't need it for my logging purposes. -- Neal Rigney, PERnet Communications, (409)729-4638 neal@mail.pernet.net My opinions are mine, damnit! PERnet can't have them! From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 20:43:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06124 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06113 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07342; Fri, 17 May 1996 13:40:54 +1000 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:40:53 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Nate Williams cc: Steve Reid , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: <199605160420.WAA21638@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 May 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? > > Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box > they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so > it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. What about a generic solution? The problem with the Nate's suggestion is that one ends up with a sh process for every pppd, while someone is logged in. I exec pppd, on my own ISP TS, but that prevents the logout message from being run. The mods below read the ip address data from /etc/sliphome/slip.hosts, so the same data file can be used for sliplogin. Ptrout:*:812:800:PPP Login for trout:/etc/ppp:/etc/pppsh And /etc/pppsh #!/bin/sh # # Specific login file for machines who want their stuff hard-coded # MATCHLINE=`cat /etc/sliphome/slip.hosts | grep '^'$USER'[[:space:]]'` localaddr=`echo $MATCHLINE | awk '{print $2 }'` remoteaddr=`echo $MATCHLINE | awk '{print $3 }'` netmask=`echo $MATCHLINE | awk '{print $4 }'` slipmode=`echo $MATCHLINE | awk '{print $5}' ` PATH=:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin export PATH ACCOUNT_FILE=/var/log/ppp.log mesg n stty -tostop echo "Start" $USER `date` >> $ACCOUNT_FILE /usr/sbin/pppd crtscts modem $localaddr:$remoteaddr debug echo "Stop" `date` >> $ACCOUNT_FILE From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 21:15:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08438 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08423 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25718; Thu, 16 May 1996 22:15:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 22:15:08 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199605170415.WAA25718@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: Nate Williams , Steve Reid , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging pppd connect & disconnect In-Reply-To: References: <199605160420.WAA21638@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is there any way to log when users connect and disconnect with pppd? > > > > Sure, it's a piece of cake. How do your users startup PPP? On my box > > they run a little shell script which is customized for each system, so > > it would be trivial to have it append start/stop entries to a file. > > What about a generic solution? The problem with the Nate's suggestion is > that one ends up with a sh process for every pppd, while someone is > logged in. This is a non-issue on FreeBSD. Because the sh process is nevery used, it will get swapped out until it's used again. So, you take the hit of a few K in your swap file (maybe not even that) for every PPP process. Doing it this way is a very *generic* solution. > I exec pppd, on my own ISP TS, but that prevents the logout > message from being run. I do too, but I modified the script I sent out for that very reason. Exec'ing pppd is also a better solution security wise as well, since it doesn't allow the user to *ever* do anything once PPP is running. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 16 21:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11432 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11427 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com ([198.145.92.241]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id VAA08901 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07676; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:57:03 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199605170457.VAA07676@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: remote printers To: rg@gds.de (Richard Gresek) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 21:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605151908.TAA12909@gds.de> from Richard Gresek at "May 15, 96 07:10:03 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have tried to configure printers on our host for remote printig. > > ns.gds.de (194.77.222.14) ist the printer-host > bfp2.bfp.de is the local machine that should use the network-printer > > The printcaps of both of them are appended at the end of this mail. > > Spooling on the local machine works fine but the print job is never > sent to the printer host. I alway get messages like > 'bfp2.bfp.de: waiting for queue to be enabled on ns.gds.de' > or > 'ns.gds.de: lpd: Your host does not have line printer access.' > > Printing and spooling on ns.gds.de works. > > Have I to tell the host which other hosts are allowed to use the > printer? Or what else is wrong here? You need to add: bfp2.bfp.de to /etc/hosts.lpd on host ns.gds.de > Thanks in advance > Richard ... -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 02:16:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA00970 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 02:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00923; Fri, 17 May 1996 02:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA12192; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:57:08 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605170927.SAA12192@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: What think ye of this? To: agifford@infowest.com (Aaron D. Gifford) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:57:08 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960515180428.009e7378@infowest.com> from "Aaron D. Gifford" at May 15, 96 12:04:28 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Aaron D. Gifford stands accused of saying: > > Any of you FreeBSD-ers care to tell me where I might find some good prices > on a system like I describe below? Any of you have any comments, > suggestions, bewares, avoids, or recommends? My only real requirements are > that the system be FAST and RELIABLE, and its hardware has got to be > supported in FreeBSD-Stable. You look like you're not afraid to spend some money, so do it properly. Accurate Automation are the people you want, or more exactly the infamous Rod Grimes. rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com IIRC. > Aaron Gifford -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 05:49:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA13815 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 05:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13795; Fri, 17 May 1996 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Fri, 17 May 1996 12:49:15 GMT Received: from hummer.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Fri, 17 May 1996 12:35:05 GMT Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:35:05 +0000 (GMT) From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: "Aaron D. Gifford" cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What think ye of this? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960515180428.009e7378@infowest.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try http://www.infinet.com/~venkat On Wed, 15 May 1996, Aaron D. Gifford wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:04:28 -0600 > From: Aaron D. Gifford > To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: What think ye of this? > > Hola, > > Any of you FreeBSD-ers care to tell me where I might find some good prices > on a system like I describe below? Any of you have any comments, > suggestions, bewares, avoids, or recommends? My only real requirements are > that the system be FAST and RELIABLE, and its hardware has got to be > supported in FreeBSD-Stable. > > CPU: Pentium 166 OR PentiumPro 200 > (Are any of the "fixed" PPro200 motherboards on the > market yet? I'd REALLY like to go PPro200 if possible) > Memory: 128MB RAM (What options are there here? > What gives the best performance? EDO? > What size cache? 512K, 256K, 1MB? > Sync. Pipeline Burst?) > Motherboard: As many PCI slots as possible, good, fast, reliable > chipsets, good PCI bus throughput, needs to support > LOTS o' RAM and have free slots so I can bump up to > at LEAST 256MB. > Case/Power: I want a spacious tower with FANS, FANS, FANS to keep down > the heat. A reliable power supply with plenty 'o extra > capacity will do. > I/O: Two decent high-speed (115200) serial ports will do me fine. > SCSI Controller: One Adaptec 2940UW (PCI) (Should I go Ultra, or just Wide?) > Hard Drives: Two 4-Gig 7200 RPM high-performance SCSI Fast&Wide/Ultra > HD's should get me by to start with (What's fast and > RELIABLE? Quantum? Seagate Barracuda?) > CD-ROM: Almost any good 6x SCSI CD-ROM that'll talk to me SCSI > controller > Video: I really don't care so long as it doesn't break anything, > since I'll likely never use anything but text mode. > Mouse: Not required > Keyboard: Almost anything that isn't going to break and that has > a decent feel > Network: One PCI 100Mb/10Mb ethernet controller (Opinions on the > 3Com, SMC, and other choices would be helpful!) > > Again, thanks for ANY and ALL comments! > > Sincerely, > Aaron Gifford > > --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- > Aaron D. Gifford InfoWest, 1845 W. Sunset Blvd, St. George, UT 84770 > InfoWest Networking Phone: (801) 674-0165 FAX: (801) 673-9734 > Visit InfoWest at: "http://www.infowest.com/" > ICBM: 37.07847 N, 113.57858 W > "Southern Utah's Finest Network Connection" > --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- > > Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count, and those who don't ! From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 06:56:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA18095 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 06:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smoke.microwiz.com (smoke.microwiz.com [206.100.22.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18090; Fri, 17 May 1996 06:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jpm.microwiz.com (jpm.microwiz.com [206.100.22.140]) by smoke.microwiz.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24062 Fri, 17 May 1996 06:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605171357.GAA24062@smoke.microwiz.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John McNamee" Organization: MicroWizards To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 06:57:48 PST Subject: Microsoft FrontPage server extensions (was: BSDI binary support) CC: mark@quickweb.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to let everybody know that the FrontPage server extensions for BSDI do indeed work on FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE (they may run on other versions too, but 2.1-STABLE is all I have at my site). The executables are statically linked, so they're a bit large, but they do avoid any shared library issues. There is a problem with passwords. The FrontPage fpsrvadm program appears to have DES crypt linked into it (I wonder if Microsoft ever considered the export implications?). When you use fpsrvadm to install FrontPage on your system, it creates a password database in /_vti_pvt/service.pwd. The password they stick in this file appears to be DES encrypted, but your web server is probably expecting MD5 (unless you install the FreeBSD DES code). As a workaround, I just copied my MD5 password from /etc/master.passwd into service.pwd. This got me running, but I haven't used FrontPage enough to know if this will be an ongoing hassle or a one-time set up issue. By the way, I hear that Microsoft DOES NOT plan to release a Linux version of the FrontPage extensions. ISP's using Linux for their web servers won't be able to support customers with FrontPage. I expect FrontPage to become very popular with end-users who want to do their own web pages. It's a good application at an attractive price, and of course it has Microsoft behind it. We might see some Linux-based ISP's switching to FreeBSD because of this. -- John McNamee MicroWizards Voice: 702-825-3535 / FAX: 702-825-3443 http://www.microwiz.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 11:47:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08867 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08860; Fri, 17 May 1996 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id TAA11816; Fri, 17 May 1996 19:14:00 +0100 (BST) To: John McNamee cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@quickweb.com From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage server extensions (was: BSDI binary support) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 May 1996 06:57:48 PST." <199605171357.GAA24062@smoke.microwiz.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 19:13:58 +0100 Message-ID: <11814.832356838@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John McNamee wrote in message ID <199605171357.GAA24062@smoke.microwiz.com>: > There is a problem with passwords. The FrontPage fpsrvadm program appears to > have DES crypt linked into it (I wonder if Microsoft ever considered the > export implications?). Probably not actually. There is now a lot of pressure in America to revoke the crypto code restrictions, and I believe (from memory) that one ``Bill Gore'' as made it an Presidential election issue that the restrictions be at least lightened to allow 64bit DES to be exported, if not totally banished. Also, they may actually just export the code that uses the DES library and use one of the internationally safe ones (like we basically do). > By the way, I hear that Microsoft DOES NOT plan to release a Linux version of > the FrontPage extensions. ISP's using Linux for their web servers won't be > able to support customers with FrontPage. I expect FrontPage to become very > popular with end-users who want to do their own web pages. It's a good > application at an attractive price, and of course it has Microsoft behind it. > We might see some Linux-based ISP's switching to FreeBSD because of this. Nice to hear :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 16:34:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29822 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sundial.sundial.net (root@sundial.sundial.net [204.181.150.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29797; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Default (pm3-25.sundial.net [204.181.150.65]) by sundial.sundial.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA25342; Fri, 17 May 1996 19:33:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199605172333.TAA25342@sundial.sundial.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Bryan J. Smith, E.I." Organization: Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engi To: "Gary Palmer" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, mark@quickweb.com Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 23:33:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage server extensions (was: BSDI binary Reply-to: b.j.smith@ieee.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You have to realize, Bill Gates considers 99% of OSes to be Windows-based and the other 1% is MacOS so therefore, if it's Windows and Mac he advertizes it as "Multi-platform." What an asshole ... -- BITMAN EI > To: John McNamee > Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, mark@quickweb.com > From: "Gary Palmer" > Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage server extensions (was: BSDI binary support) > Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 19:13:58 +0100 > John McNamee wrote in message ID > <199605171357.GAA24062@smoke.microwiz.com>: > > There is a problem with passwords. The FrontPage fpsrvadm program appears to > > have DES crypt linked into it (I wonder if Microsoft ever considered the > > export implications?). > > Probably not actually. There is now a lot of pressure in America to > revoke the crypto code restrictions, and I believe (from memory) that > one ``Bill Gore'' as made it an Presidential election issue that the > restrictions be at least lightened to allow 64bit DES to be exported, > if not totally banished. > > Also, they may actually just export the code that uses the DES library > and use one of the internationally safe ones (like we basically do). > > > By the way, I hear that Microsoft DOES NOT plan to release a Linux version of > > the FrontPage extensions. ISP's using Linux for their web servers won't be > > able to support customers with FrontPage. I expect FrontPage to become very > > popular with end-users who want to do their own web pages. It's a good > > application at an attractive price, and of course it has Microsoft behind it. > > We might see some Linux-based ISP's switching to FreeBSD because of this. > > Nice to hear :-) > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "I am Pentium of Borg. Precision is futile, you will be approximated." -- Stan "The Man" Buchanan, Jr. ========================================================== BRYAN J. SMITH, E.I. b.j.smith@ieee.org Systems Engineer http://www.sundial.net/~bjsmith/ ---------------------------------------------------------- - WAN Engineer, Hard Rock Cafe International - NSPE/FLBPR Certified Engineering Intern (E.I.) - IEEE Central FL Branch Secretary ---------------------------------------------------------- 1006 Teague Court Home: (407) 366-4620 Oviedo, FL 32765-7002 or: (407) 365-4693 ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 17:56:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA06717 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.net.hk (john@gateway.hk.linkage.net [202.76.7.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06712 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from john@localhost) by gateway.net.hk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id IAA29485; Sat, 18 May 1996 08:56:13 +0800 (HKT) Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 08:56:12 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: John Hart cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Support for Ethernet Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you are running 2.1.0R as I suspect, you can get the vx device code from stable ( or current) and drop it into 2.1.0. Ignore or comment out the warning message about early revisions of the board. jbeukema On Wed, 15 May 1996, John Hart wrote: > I have a new ethernet card here for my server, but when I put it in, I > found out that FreeBSD does not support it. Does anyone know where I > could get a driver for it? > > It is a 3C590C Bus Master PCI from 3Com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Hart, System Administrator Technet Internet Services > dashadow@tchnet.com (517)796-8200 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 17 18:42:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09079 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fisbin.remuda.com (fisbin.remuda.com [199.238.225.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09052; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scotto@localhost) by fisbin.remuda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05083; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:41:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:41:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Overholser Reply-To: Scott Overholser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org cc: a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com Subject: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry for spamming all these lists. i turned up hits on all of them when i searched the mailing list archives. i recently replaced my email gateway with a freebsd 2.1.0 box. prior to that it was a linux box (different hardware) running sendmail 8.6.11 and 100% trouble free. now though, i am seeing sendmail errors when sending to a few select sites. in addition, i see them when i receive from the same sites. the troublesome sites (that i know of) are microsoft.com, msn.com, and noa.com. i *absolutely* cannot send mail to recipient@microsoft.com or recipient@noa.com. i seem to be able to send mail to recipient@msn.com but i cannot receive mail from msn.com. mail to/from other sites is no problem. here are some sample messages (although based on my search through the archives, many of you have seen them before): ---------->%snip>%---------- com. [205.166.76.99], stat=Deferred: Operation timed out during client QUIT with bowser.noa.com. m. [131.107.3.23], stat=Deferred: Connection reset by peer during client QUIT wi th abash1.microsoft.com. May 15 00:31:17 fisbin sendmail[566]: XAA00566: SYSERR(root): collect: read time out on connection from upsmot02.msn.com, from= ---------->%snip>%---------- there are many more...mostly from the same sites though. i've checked everything i can think of - dns config, resolver config, sendmail config (cranked the timeouts absurdly high). nothing phases the problem. i don't suspect hardware because of the number of posts from others having the same problem. oh yeah, i also turned on sendmail logging and waded through that mess. it looks like all the mail is xferred to the remote host on outbound mail and xferred to my host on inbound mail but it dies on the QUIT. the really strange thing is that i don't get the errors when sending directly to some hosts at microsoft. for example, if i send mail to a-scotov@microsoft.com i may as well beat my head against a wall. on the other hand, if i send the mail to a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com the mail is delivered (and i can send mail from a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com to scotto@remuda.com) - in case you hadn't guessed, i earn my daily bread at microsoft. the difference between the two addresses is that the exchange.microsoft.com address is an experimental mail server running various stable builds of ms exchange. the microsoft.com address is the main corporate gateway(s) running the shipping version of microsoft exchange. well, enough gab. does anyone have a solution to this problem?! this is growing old. i know there are lots of folks out there on these mailing lists that have had this problem. the only real answer suggested in the responses was from david greenman "these are likely caused by transient connectivity hickups on the internet and can almost certainly be ignored." however, i've gotta agree with john brogan who said (over a year ago - with freebsd 1.1.5.1) "about 15 or 16 systems have had this exact same problem...about 7,000 have not had any problems..." that's exactly what i'm seeing (sort of). mail works but for a few sites - which unfortunately i must correspond with on a daily basis. i confess a certain discomfort in suspecting the os rather than sendmail. however, i've used sendmail for a long time and never experienced anything like this without being able to attribute it to something i can sink my teeth into. i certainly have a problem swallowing "transient network errors" especially when the mail archives are peppered with posts from folks asking the same question for over a year - not to mention the fact that i can send email to/from sites other than the troublesome ones mentioned above whilst my netbsd and linux running comrades don't seem to be experiencing any of these troubles (i happen to be alone in running freebsd amonst a sea of linux'ers and netbsd'ers). well, sorry for the spam, the length, and above all - the quasi-soapbox. if anyone at all has taken the time to read this fully, i appreciate it and hope for a speedy solution. this weekend i'll probably switch the scsi ids on my external drives and install netbsd to see if it fares any better in sending mail to recip@microsoft.com et al. thanks scotto From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 00:28:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA04262 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Arizona.EDU (Penny.Telcom.Arizona.EDU [128.196.128.217]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04136; Sat, 18 May 1996 00:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov by Arizona.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #2381) id <01I4TYBJD2WGCDTVLX@Arizona.EDU>; Sat, 18 May 1996 00:27:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost by sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16905; Sat, 18 May 1996 00:26:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 00:26:45 -0700 From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. In-reply-to: "Your message of Fri, 17 May 1996 18:41:20 MST." To: Scott Overholser Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com, doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov Message-id: <9605180726.AA16905@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Previously: >i recently replaced my email gateway with a freebsd 2.1.0 box. prior to >that it was a linux box (different hardware) running sendmail 8.6.11 and >100% trouble free. now though, i am seeing sendmail errors when sending to >a few select sites. in addition, i see them when i receive from the same >sites. Well, I'm gonna start with a couple dumb questions... What version of sendmail are you running? I think the most recent is 8.7.5... When you switched, did you keep a copy of your old sendmail.cf? Have you done a diff on the old vs. the new? I know you said that your timeouts were very high, but exactly what is the r option? I used to run with 15m, but that isn't long enough anymore. Try at least 30m or maybe even 1h or more... Also, do you have any problems with a connection to those sites if you do it manually (with telnet)? How heavily is your gateway loaded? If you have a heavy load, you may want to consider using a more efficient mailer than sendmail... -Doug Doug Wellington doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov System and Network Administrator US Geological Survey, Tucson, AZ Project Office According to proposed Federal guidelines, this message is a "non-record". Hmm, I wonder if _everything_ I say is a "non-record"... FreeBSD and Apache - the best real tools for the virtual world! Check out www.freebsd.org and www.apache.org, and for you music types, check out TCLMidi... God, I wonder what Apple is going to mess up next? Have they been taking lessons from Novell? From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 07:13:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA02558 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 07:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-161.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02543; Sat, 18 May 1996 07:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA02650; Fri, 17 May 1996 01:17:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199605162317.BAA02650@vector.jhs.no_domain> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.no_domain: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tushar Patel cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Login name longer then 8 character? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending modem change) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 May 1996 20:32:29 -0000." <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 01:17:58 +0200 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Tushar Patel > Subject: Re: Login name longer then 8 character? > Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 20:32:29 +0000 () > Message-id: <199605152032.UAA13583@ecpi.com> > > Hi, > > How can I setup user login name larger than 8 characters? > "adduser" script does not allow me to enter a name larger > than 8 characters. Perhaps whoever wrote the adduser 8 char limit knew there are or at least were also passwd 8 char limits in FreeBSD, (as to version I can't tell you, but I did hit such a limit a few months back, on a machine kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de knows of) so before you read & change the source to adduser, go & do some direct tests with passwd etc. > What do I need to do to incorporate names > larger than 8 characters. > > Do I need to do anything in the sendmail? > > Please help. > > Thanks > Tushar > Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 08:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA06830 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 08:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06771; Sat, 18 May 1996 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vazquez@localhost) by kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (8.7.5/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) id MAA13771; Sat, 18 May 1996 12:44:07 GMT From: Pedro A M Vazquez Message-Id: <199605181244.MAA13771@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Subject: http://www.mirai.com/survey/ To: isp@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 12:44:06 +0000 () X-Organization: Instituto de Quimica - Unicamp X-URL: http://www.iqm.unicamp.br/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Have you looked at http://www.mirai.com/survey/ ? They are trying to do a survey on what OS are used for web servers, something like netcraft does for web servers. There is no FreeBSD specific entry there, just a generic BSD. The results are, IMHO, unrealistic and do not agree with those reported by netcraft. Pedro From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 11:33:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA13122 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 11:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13099; Sat, 18 May 1996 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA25346; Sat, 18 May 1996 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605181833.LAA25346@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Scott Overholser cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com Subject: Re: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 17 May 96 18:41:20 -0700. Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 11:33:26 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >i recently replaced my email gateway with a freebsd 2.1.0 box. prior to >that it was a linux box (different hardware) running sendmail 8.6.11 and >100% trouble free. now though, i am seeing sendmail errors when sending to >a few select sites. in addition, i see them when i receive from the same >sites. For What It's Worth, NetBSD is currently running Sendmail 8.7.5, and I don't have this problem. Although, I don't remember seeing this in the 8.6.x versions, either. Sorry that's all the "help" I can lend... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 13:02:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA17196 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 13:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17115; Sat, 18 May 1996 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA02477; Sat, 18 May 1996 22:02:04 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA16913; Sat, 18 May 1996 22:02:04 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA00516; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:58:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199605181858.UAA00516@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. To: scotto@remuda.com Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 20:58:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Scott Overholser at "May 17, 96 06:41:20 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Scott Overholser wrote: > the troublesome sites (that i know of) are microsoft.com, msn.com, and > noa.com. i *absolutely* cannot send mail to recipient@microsoft.com or > recipient@noa.com. i seem to be able to send mail to recipient@msn.com Don't know if this is related, but we recently discovered (while hunting for a problem with some self-written Winlose 95 rsh-client) that Winlose 95 doesn't know how to handle TCP connections. Not that this really suprised me, but it effectively makes any rsh command useless that tries to take data from stdin. The bug is that Winlose never sends a FIN flag, but immediately sends a package with an RST in it. This causes the remote command to be aborted (as opposed to see a closed connection, and process it as an EOF condition). Since your problems always happen while the sendmail is waiting for the QUIT handshake, it may be the same problem. Dunno if this is only apparent for some version of Winlose 95. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 17:10:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA12194 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kirk.edmweb.com (kirk.edmweb.com [204.244.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12181 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by kirk.edmweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00478; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:10:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Cyclades Cyclom 8Yo - kernel config and mknod ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Cyclades Cyclom 8Yo in a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine, but I'm not quite certain about all of the kernel configuration option... So far, this is what I've figured: device cy0 at isa? tty irq 15 iomem 0xd400 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyinter options "COM_MULTIPORT" What I can't figure is the port and flags for sio2-sio9. Am I correct in assuming I need to configure sio devices for the Cyclades card? Also, once I've got the devices compiled in the kernel, how do I make the device files in /dev ? There doesn't seem to be anything for Cyclades in the MAKEDEV script. I've checked the mailing list archives, and the cyclades manual, but I can't find this information. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP Fingerprint: 11 C8 9D 1C D6 72 87 E6 8C 09 EC 52 44 3F 88 30 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 18:34:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27382 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 18:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27373 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 18:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by zen.nash.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA00638; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:31:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 20:31:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605190131.UAA00638@zen.nash.org> From: Alex Nash To: steve@edmweb.com Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Cyclades Cyclom 8Yo - kernel config and mknod ? Reply-to: nash@mcs.com Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a Cyclades Cyclom 8Yo in a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine, but I'm > not quite certain about all of the kernel configuration option... So far, > this is what I've figured: > > device cy0 at isa? tty irq 15 iomem 0xd400 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyinter > options "COM_MULTIPORT" You can eliminate COM_MULTIPORT, it doesn't do anything in the Cyclades driver. > What I can't figure is the port and flags for sio2-sio9. Am I correct in > assuming I need to configure sio devices for the Cyclades card? sio is for standard serial devices like COM1, COM2, etc. The Cyclades configuration is completely separate from this. > Also, once I've got the devices compiled in the kernel, how do I make the > device files in /dev ? There doesn't seem to be anything for Cyclades in > the MAKEDEV script. The devices you need to build are cuac[0-7] and ttyc[0-7] (which are the Cyclades versions of cuaa[0-7] and ttyd[0-7] for standard serial ports). To build them, type this: cd /dev for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7;do ./MAKEDEV ttyc$i cuac$i;done Don't forget to modify /etc/ttys if you have dialup lines. Add lines like: ttyc0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on insecure ttyc1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on insecure ... Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 18 20:10:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA03065 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03053 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00612; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:10:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 20:10:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: nash@mcs.com cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Cyclades Cyclom 8Yo - kernel config and mknod ? In-Reply-To: <199605190131.UAA00638@zen.nash.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What I can't figure is the port and flags for sio2-sio9. Am I correct in > > assuming I need to configure sio devices for the Cyclades card? > > sio is for standard serial devices like COM1, COM2, etc. The Cyclades > configuration is completely separate from this. [snip] > for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7;do ./MAKEDEV ttyc$i cuac$i;done I figured I needed to set sio#, because all of the handbook and FAQ examples for multiport serial cards were messing with sio. Thanks, that's exactly the info I needed. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:)