From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jan 21 21:46:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11089 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ins.hic.co.jp (ins.hic.co.jp [202.248.46.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11080 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by ins.hic.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta6-07/04/95) id OAA02920 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:46:03 +0900 Received: from tiger.hic.co.jp(192.168.1.34) by ins.hic.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma002918; Mon Jan 22 14:45:57 1996 Received: from tiger by tiger.hic.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4W2-11/10/95) with ESMTP id OAA02122 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:45:55 +0900 Message-Id: <199601220545.OAA02122@tiger.hic.co.jp> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Now I ported INN-1.4unoff3. X-Mailer: Mew version 1.02 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:45:55 +0900 From: Nobuyoshi Miyokawa Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Now, I ported INN-1.4unoff3 for FreeBSD-2.1.0R. Already INN-1.4 was ported by torstenb@FreeBSD.ORG, and it's nice work, but this INN-1.4 was a bit old ``sec2.'' So, in reference this ``sec2'' ports, I remade porting new INN-1.4 ``unoff3.'' This is my first ported work, so I will be mistaken. In such way, please mail to me for correction. Sorry, for my _POOR_ english. Thank you. P.S. My primary E-Mail address is ``n-miyo@tempus.chuo.chiba.jp'', but in work time, ``nmiyo@hic.co.jp'' will be contacted directly. -- Nobuyoshi Miyokawa / nmiyo@hic.co.jp From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 00:14:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA18979 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18974 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12/3.4Wbeta5) id RAA00521; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:10:19 +0900 Message-Id: <199601220810.RAA00521@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Subject: ported WIDE dhcp to FreeBSD 2.1R Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:10:19 +0900 From: MIHIRA Yoshiro (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOzBKP0ExTzobKEI=?= ) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I ported WIDE dhcp (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) to FreeBSD 2.1R. I put port style file to ftp.freebsd.org: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/dhcp.tar.gz ---------- By the way, in FreeBSD 2.1R and -current, Time Zone information header file, `tzfile.h' is not in /usr/include directory tree. It is only in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdtime. In 2.0.5R, it is in /usr/include.... Why was it deleted in /usr/include? --- Yoshiro MIHIRA Keio Univ. Japan From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 01:14:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22198 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22184 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01212; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:14:25 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:14:24 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ssh /etc config files location.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all... I am still somewhat disturbed with the location of some rather critical "per site" info from ssh in /usr/local/etc.. Specifically the ssh host secret keys, and the per-site config files. This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will screw you rather badly. There are precedents against this too.. gated keeps it's config files in /etc. In my email exchanges with the SSH authors, they expressed suprise and then concern about FreeBSD doing this.. (I offered the make-known-hosts patch back to them). The make-known-hosts.pl patch is wrong, because it needs to get the /etc/ssh_host_key.pub from all hosts, not just freebsd ones. The original version works because /etc is architecture independent, and the one thing that all Unix hosts have in common. Things like the mailcap file is fine to be there in /usr/local/etc, IMHO. "Vital" per-host security-sensative stuff should not be. I'd like to undo the patches that do this... Does anybody want to try and convince me otherwise? :-) Cheers, -Peter PS: IMHO, it was a mistake adding the BUILD_DEPENDS in wish and perl5. it build's fine without them. It seems silly to require X11 to be installed in order to build the port.. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 02:48:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA29174 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29083 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA23739 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:31:51 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 22 Jan 96 13:31:48 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.ru (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA00986; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:13:02 +0300 (MSK) To: Peter Wemm , ports@freebsd.org Cc: security@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: ; from Peter Wemm at Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:14:24 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:13:02 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.42 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. Lines: 48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message Peter Wemm writes: >I am still somewhat disturbed with the location of some rather critical >"per site" info from ssh in /usr/local/etc.. Specifically the ssh host >secret keys, and the per-site config files. >This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will >screw you rather badly. >There are precedents against this too.. gated keeps it's config files in >/etc. There are precedent _for_ this, tcp_wrapper uses /usr/local/etc. Using NFS for /usr/local/bin/{security_binaries} is big risk too because they can be changes (like config files). I don't see the point to move security-related configs to /etc and _not_ to move security binaries from /usr/local. So there is two normal solutions: 1) Leave all as is in /usr/local, but not mount it over NFS 2) Move configs & binaries _both_ off /usr/local. I disagree with proposed solution (moving configs only to /etc). >PS: IMHO, it was a mistake adding the BUILD_DEPENDS in wish and perl5. it >build's fine without them. It seems silly to require X11 to be installed >in order to build the port.. It builds fine, but incomplete, namely: ssh-askpass needs wish make-ssh-known-hosts needs perl5 So here is two variants: 1) They are essential, so BUILD_DEPENDS is essential too. 2) They don't play big role. In this case they need to be controlled via USE_* variables like other stuff in ssh Makefile. I.e. corresponding BUILD_DEPENDS must be ifdefed. Removing BUILD_DEPENDS is bad in any case. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 05:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA09162 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA09139 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.DIALix.oz.au (peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1]) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04035; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:22 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199601221259.UAA04035@jhome.DIALix.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: jhome.DIALix.COM: Host peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) cc: ports@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:13:02 +0300." Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:21 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>I am still somewhat disturbed with the location of some rather critical >>"per site" info from ssh in /usr/local/etc.. Specifically the ssh host >>secret keys, and the per-site config files. > >>This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will >>screw you rather badly. > >>There are precedents against this too.. gated keeps it's config files in >>/etc. > >There are precedent _for_ this, tcp_wrapper uses /usr/local/etc. True, but in the most likely case of having /usr/local shared (ie: a small group of machines) tcp_wrapper configs are most likely to be the same for all the hosts anyway. However, tcp_wrapper does not need to constantly write to any files in /usr/local/etc like sshd has been configured to do. >Using NFS for /usr/local/bin/{security_binaries} is big risk too >because they can be changes (like config files). >I don't see the point to move security-related configs to /etc >and _not_ to move security binaries from /usr/local. If you choose to run binaries off a machine, you are choosing to trust the security of your network and that machine. If I have two machines sitting right next to each other with 6 feet of ethernet cable, and not enough disk space, why shouldn't I be able to NFS share some things (like X11R6 and /usr/local). >So there is two normal solutions: >1) Leave all as is in /usr/local, but not mount it over NFS >2) Move configs & binaries _both_ off /usr/local. > >I disagree with proposed solution (moving configs only to /etc). I'm not worried so much about the config files, but I am worried about the run-time data generated by sshd that is written to the etcdir, and I'm also concerned about the critical public and private host keys. sshd_config and ssh_config could stay in /usr/local/etc for all I care. :-) I'm not complaining about this from a "security" point of view, I'm complaining about this from a "functionality" point of view. Remember, we still support mounting all of /usr via NFS. There's no need to make a special case for /usr/local with regard to running "security sensative" programs. If somebody has hacked your fileserver and replaced /usr/bin/login, it wont be long before some root process runs the fake "login" as root. (Hell, the hacker can telnet to your machine, and telnetd will run the hacked "login" as root right then..) >>PS: IMHO, it was a mistake adding the BUILD_DEPENDS in wish and perl5. it >>build's fine without them. It seems silly to require X11 to be installed >>in order to build the port.. > >It builds fine, but incomplete, namely: > >ssh-askpass needs wish >make-ssh-known-hosts needs perl5 Exactly.. It "builds fine". It probes to see if the tools exist, and codes in the exact pathnames if they are there, and puts in default pathnames if they are not. >So here is two variants: >1) They are essential, so BUILD_DEPENDS is essential too. >2) They don't play big role. In this case they need to be controlled >via USE_* variables like other stuff in ssh Makefile. I.e. corresponding >BUILD_DEPENDS must be ifdefed. > >Removing BUILD_DEPENDS is bad in any case. Why? If I dont have X11 installed on the target system (and NEVER will, because it's a dialup box), and hence will not have wish, and ssh does not need wish and will happily build without it, why should I be prevented from building the non-X11 port? As far as I can see, they are used like this: if "wish" on $PATH WISH=`location of wish` else WISH=/usr/local/bin/wish echo "Wish not installed, ssh-askpass will not work." fi ..... echo "#! $WISH" > ssh-askpass cat ssh-askpass.in >> ssh-askpass If you build ssh and later install wish, the ssh-askpass will then work. It's a runtime dependency, not a BUILD_DEPENDS. What I think should be done there, is that the default $PERL and $WISH should be patched to specify the correct "default" location for FreeBSD. Then, when the port is built, it will search the path and use the exact location of the binaries in case they are in non-standard locations, and will still build a functional result if it's not currently installed. ie: it'll be #! /usr/X11R6/bin/wish line in the ssh-askpass script. If you later want to run it, you merely need to install a wish package and it all works. ssh-make-known-hosts does not work correctly when probing anything other than a FreeBSD box with ssh build from this port, because it's looking for /etc/ssh_host_key.pub in the wrong location. The SSH author complained to me that we were doing this. Hmm, I just re-ran the "make" to build the port. I can see that there are a few things that "configure" has got wrong... It should also use the system libgmp and the zlib port rather than building it's own.... >-- >Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, >ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - >http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. >RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 06:34:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA16360 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16282 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA07144 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:17:17 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 22 Jan 96 17:17:16 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.ru (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01830; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:57:59 +0300 (MSK) To: Peter Wemm Cc: ports@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org References: <199601221259.UAA04035@jhome.DIALix.COM> In-Reply-To: <199601221259.UAA04035@jhome.DIALix.COM>; from Peter Wemm at Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:21 +0800 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:57:58 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.42 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. Lines: 74 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199601221259.UAA04035@jhome.DIALix.COM> Peter Wemm writes: >I'm not complaining about this from a "security" point of view, I'm >complaining about this from a "functionality" point of view. Well, I accept this point of view. >I'm not worried so much about the config files, but I am worried about the >run-time data generated by sshd that is written to the etcdir, and I'm also >concerned about the critical public and private host keys. sshd_config and >ssh_config could stay in /usr/local/etc for all I care. :-) I remember, we plan to make /etc read-only, no runtime data should be written there, we need to choose another place, maybe /var/run.... So, I still disagree but the reason is different... >Exactly.. It "builds fine". It probes to see if the tools exist, and codes >in the exact pathnames if they are there, and puts in default pathnames >if they are not. It isn't acceptable for security tool, PREFIX can be != /usr/local in general case which can cause wrong version picked from /usr/local. So, I repeat my variant: >>In this case they need to be controlled >>via USE_* variables like other stuff in ssh Makefile. I.e. corresponding >>BUILD_DEPENDS must be ifdefed. >Why? If I dont have X11 installed on the target system (and NEVER will, >because it's a dialup box), and hence will not have wish, and ssh does not >need wish and will happily build without it, why should I be prevented >from building the non-X11 port? If you don't have X11, don't install ssh-askpass. If you install X11 - reinstall ssh port and setenv USE_WISH before. >As far as I can see, they are used like this: >if "wish" on $PATH > WISH=`location of wish` >else > WISH=/usr/local/bin/wish > echo "Wish not installed, ssh-askpass will not work." >fi >..... >echo "#! $WISH" > ssh-askpass >cat ssh-askpass.in >> ssh-askpass >If you build ssh and later install wish, the ssh-askpass will then work. >It's a runtime dependency, not a BUILD_DEPENDS. It isn't acceptable to guess path for security tools, path must be exact. Better way is reinstall ssh when additional soft will be available. The same words about perl5 & ssh-make-known-hosts, ether path must be known exactly or this script must not be installed. There is yet one problem related to this: building package (PLIST), it is unclear does it must have minimal ssh scripts set. >Hmm, I just re-ran the "make" to build the port. I can see that there >are a few things that "configure" has got wrong... >It should also use the system libgmp and the zlib port rather than >building it's own.... Ssh may depends of libgmp/zlib version used. Configure even not tries to find them in the system. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 10:24:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03459 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03423 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.DIALix.oz.au (peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1]) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11303; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:21:23 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199601221821.CAA11303@jhome.DIALix.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: jhome.DIALix.COM: Host peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) cc: ports@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:57:58 +0300." Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:21:22 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>I'm not worried so much about the config files, but I am worried about the >>run-time data generated by sshd that is written to the etcdir, and I'm also >>concerned about the critical public and private host keys. sshd_config and >>ssh_config could stay in /usr/local/etc for all I care. :-) > >I remember, we plan to make /etc read-only, no runtime data should >be written there, we need to choose another place, maybe /var/run.... >So, I still disagree but the reason is different... The /etc/ssh_host_key is the signature for the host itself. it's like the host's password for doing .rhosts authentication... If that file ever gets corrupted, or changed, it is a serious problem, because all the ssh programs that talk to your host have saved a copy of the public key, and if your host cannot prove it is the same machine, all the ssh's out there will scream "SECURITY ALERT" and refuse to authenticate because of potential "man in the middle" attacks. Those three files are vital to the correct functioning of ssh. You wouldn't put /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd in /var/run or /usr/local/etc. >>Exactly.. It "builds fine". It probes to see if the tools exist, and codes >>in the exact pathnames if they are there, and puts in default pathnames >>if they are not. > >It isn't acceptable for security tool, PREFIX can be != /usr/local >in general case which can cause wrong version picked from /usr/local. >So, I repeat my variant: The two programs in question (ssh-askpass and make-known-hosts) are not exactly security tools. They run without privilege. Incidently, ssh-1.2.12a.tar.gz is rather broken. In the announcement, it also said "ssh-askpass is currently broken"... Arguing about whether or not to install the broken tool is not exactly my idea of "productive". We should ignore it and not install it until it's fixed again. >>>In this case they need to be controlled >>>via USE_* variables like other stuff in ssh Makefile. I.e. corresponding >>>BUILD_DEPENDS must be ifdefed. > >>Why? If I dont have X11 installed on the target system (and NEVER will, >>because it's a dialup box), and hence will not have wish, and ssh does not >>need wish and will happily build without it, why should I be prevented >>from building the non-X11 port? > >If you don't have X11, don't install ssh-askpass. >If you install X11 - reinstall ssh port and setenv USE_WISH before. yes, but if you dont have X11, you currently CANNOT EVEN BUILD THE PORT. Also, if you have tcl74 and tk4 installed, you cannot build either because wish is installed as "wish4.0". This is not one of the files it probes for (it checks wish, wishx and wish4.1), and tcl74 / tcl and tk4 / tk are both mutually exclusive. Forcing the ssh build to be dependent on one of the two mutually exclusive packages is very bad. >>As far as I can see, they are used like this: >>if "wish" on $PATH >> WISH=`location of wish` >>else >> WISH=/usr/local/bin/wish >> echo "Wish not installed, ssh-askpass will not work." >>fi >>..... >>echo "#! $WISH" > ssh-askpass >>cat ssh-askpass.in >> ssh-askpass > >>If you build ssh and later install wish, the ssh-askpass will then work. >>It's a runtime dependency, not a BUILD_DEPENDS. > >It isn't acceptable to guess path for security tools, >path must be exact. Better way is reinstall ssh when additional >soft will be available. >The same words about perl5 & ssh-make-known-hosts, >ether path must be known exactly or this script must not be installed. ssh-askpass never used to be installed, until patch-ad. Since it's not working, it probably should not be installed for now. I would agree to not installing them if the run-time tools are missing, but I dont see how you can prevent ssh-askpass and make-known-hosts from being installed from a package if perl5/wish are missing. >There is yet one problem related to this: building package (PLIST), >it is unclear does it must have minimal ssh scripts set. Currently, there are no packages built for ssh for US-export stupidity. Satoshi once said something like this: "We can only build packages to assume standard locations of things. We can't take responsibility for not using default locations." What can you do? The odds are that the building machine has a complete system, with X11, tcl/tk/wish etc. If you build a package, it will have the complete kit, with hard coded paths in it, and a path to /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth. There's no guarantee that the machine that installs the package will have them in the same place, or even if it will have them. Requiring X11 and/or wish is not the answer there either, as it only makes everybody's life difficult. Also, since we are installing into /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin, there is no more risk of having paths coded to /usr/local/bin/wish and /usr/local/bin/perl. If a hacker could place in a fake /usr/local/bin/wish, they could just as easily put in a fake /usr/local/bin/ssh and wait for you to run it. >>Hmm, I just re-ran the "make" to build the port. I can see that there >>are a few things that "configure" has got wrong... > >>It should also use the system libgmp and the zlib port rather than >>building it's own.... > >Ssh may depends of libgmp/zlib version used. Configure even >not tries to find them in the system. I spoke to the SSH author about this a few weeks ago. He said "send me working patches and I'll consider putting support for that in". I never got around to it... (I see that Mark has done the first part) >-- >Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, >ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - >http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. >RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 BTW: ssh-1.2.12a is SERIOUSLY crippled. It is damaged in several ways as part of the "emergency patch", and still not secure because it installed /usr/local/bin/ssh setuid-root. It now creates files in your home directory while running as root, causing potential new holes and races. :-( Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 11:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08876 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08869 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA26787; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:45:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:45:02 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601221945.AA26787@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: MIHIRA Yoshiro (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOzBKP0ExTzobKEI=?= ) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ported WIDE dhcp to FreeBSD 2.1R In-Reply-To: <199601220810.RAA00521@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> References: <199601220810.RAA00521@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > By the way, in FreeBSD 2.1R and -current, Time Zone information > header file, `tzfile.h' is not in /usr/include directory tree. It is > only in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdtime. > In 2.0.5R, it is in /usr/include.... > Why was it deleted in /usr/include? Because it is not a public include file, but rather private to the timezone code. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 13:35:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA16185 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16170 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id WAA03857 ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:34 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id WAA15271 ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:33 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id TAA04300; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:13:32 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601221813.TAA04300@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:13:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Wemm" at Jan 22, 96 05:14:24 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1586 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL0 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Peter Wemm said: > This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will > screw you rather badly. I agree with you. When ssh appeared the default was /etc. It was not a bad location but cluttered /etc. Thats why I asked Tatu to use a configure switch (--with-etcdir) for that. I know we generally don't allow ports to touch /etc but I agree that we should configure our port to install in /etc/ssh. It also avoid cluttering /etc. > I'd like to undo the patches that do this... Does anybody want to try > and convince me otherwise? :-) Not me. I always use /etc/ssh. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Sun Jan 14 20:23:45 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 14:11:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA20507 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20496 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA23528 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:19:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:19:00 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199601222119.WAA23528@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: elm+mime port broken Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Tried to build elm+mime and found that make chokes on filter/Makefile due to a leading tab in an empty line (line 92). --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 14:35:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22842 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-175.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.175]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22675 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA03569; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601220903.KAA03569@vector.jhs.local> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.local: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, bmc@willscreek.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, gj@freebsd.org, rsnow@txdirect.net Subject: Re: popclient-2.21 Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jan 1996 03:43:12 PST." <199601161143.DAA01017@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:03:16 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) > Subject: Re: popclient-2.21 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 03:43:12 -0800 (PST) > Message-id: <199601161143.DAA01017@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> > > * The popclient in /usr/ports is ancient... The current version is at > * > * 6 Dec 1995 115.8 Ko /sources/mail/utils/popclient-3.0b6.tar.gz > > Indeed. I just upgraded the port to 3.0b6, please check it out. > > Satoshi I was running a version of 3.0b6 on a src-current base, fetched from incoming/ prior to your upgrade, I've compared your tweaks with what rsnow@txdirect.net provided, all looks highly plausible to me, so should be no problem. (I say Was running simply because at present my ISP appears on the net the other side of the Atlantic, so with the masses of mail I get, it's much quicker to login , gzip the mbox & ftp, rather than have pop handshaking for each individual mail. But I'm confident ports/mailpopclient(3.0b6) should be well behaved & OK for others (& for me when I change ISP to a local based one). PS I noticed your man(1) style tweaks in the Makefile, & will be using them as example for another port I'm working on. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 16:37:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA05001 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04948 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA13736; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:37:22 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601230037.AA13736@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:37:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199601221259.UAA04035@jhome.DIALix.COM> from "Peter Wemm" at Jan 22, 96 08:59:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >>I am still somewhat disturbed with the location of some rather critical > >>"per site" info from ssh in /usr/local/etc.. Specifically the ssh host > >>secret keys, and the per-site config files. > > > >>This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will > >>screw you rather badly. > > > >>There are precedents against this too.. gated keeps it's config files in > >>/etc. > > > >There are precedent _for_ this, tcp_wrapper uses /usr/local/etc. Just because the tcp wrapper's porter picked this location doesn't make it correct. In fact from looking at hier(7), I'd say most ports abuse lib (where etc should be used) and man & etc (where share/* should be used). > True, but in the most likely case of having /usr/local shared (ie: a small > group of machines) tcp_wrapper configs are most likely to be the same > for all the hosts anyway. However, tcp_wrapper does not need to constantly Agreed, all most hosts w/in the same local net have the same tcp_wrappers setup. > write to any files in /usr/local/etc like sshd has been configured to do. If files are written suggests /var is the place for them then. > >Using NFS for /usr/local/bin/{security_binaries} is big risk too > >because they can be changes (like config files). > >I don't see the point to move security-related configs to /etc > >and _not_ to move security binaries from /usr/local. It's a pratical nature. On most my previous sites, we read-only NFS mounted most non-OS released files. Only admins had login's on the file servers. Mostly because of disk space and simple administrative reasons. I don't think you can agure that right or wrong, this is a typical practice. > I'm not worried so much about the config files, but I am worried about the > run-time data generated by sshd that is written to the etcdir, and I'm also > concerned about the critical public and private host keys. sshd_config and > ssh_config could stay in /usr/local/etc for all I care. :-) Agreed. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 16:58:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA06973 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dima@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA06967 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601230058.QAA06967@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. To: ache@astral.msk.su (=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:58:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM, ports@FreeBSD.org, security@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" at Jan 22, 96 01:13:02 pm From: dima@FreeBSD.org (Dima Ruban) X-Class: Fast Organization: HackerDome X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= writes: > > In message > Peter Wemm writes: > > >I am still somewhat disturbed with the location of some rather critical > >"per site" info from ssh in /usr/local/etc.. Specifically the ssh host > >secret keys, and the per-site config files. > > >This is (IMHO) rather dangerous. If you NFS mount /usr/local, this will > >screw you rather badly. > > >There are precedents against this too.. gated keeps it's config files in > >/etc. > > There are precedent _for_ this, tcp_wrapper uses /usr/local/etc. > > Using NFS for /usr/local/bin/{security_binaries} is big risk too > because they can be changes (like config files). > I don't see the point to move security-related configs to /etc > and _not_ to move security binaries from /usr/local. This is more complicated. Because sometimes you don't need to modify something to get in. I mean, for example with tcp_wrapper, you can try to break from trusted computer. And if someone knows, from which computer he should try, it will increase his chances. And finaly it will depend on security on this trusted computer, and not on yours. > So there is two normal solutions: > 1) Leave all as is in /usr/local, but not mount it over NFS > 2) Move configs & binaries _both_ off /usr/local. > > I disagree with proposed solution (moving configs only to /etc). That's what I'm doing on my machine, because I forced to export /usr/local/ to other computers. Even if I'm exporting 'em read-only. > >PS: IMHO, it was a mistake adding the BUILD_DEPENDS in wish and perl5. it > >build's fine without them. It seems silly to require X11 to be installed > >in order to build the port.. > > It builds fine, but incomplete, namely: > > ssh-askpass needs wish > make-ssh-known-hosts needs perl5 > > So here is two variants: > 1) They are essential, so BUILD_DEPENDS is essential too. > 2) They don't play big role. In this case they need to be controlled > via USE_* variables like other stuff in ssh Makefile. I.e. corresponding > BUILD_DEPENDS must be ifdefed. > > Removing BUILD_DEPENDS is bad in any case. > > -- > Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, > ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - > http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. > RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 > -- dima From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 18:55:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA19587 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-133.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19248 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) id DAA25868; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:41:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:41:33 +0100 (MET) From: "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <199601230241.DAA25868@vector.jhs.local> To: ports@freebsd.org cc: jkh@freebsd.org, brent.welch@sun.com, n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com Subject: ports/mail/exmh Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH [version 1.6.5 95 12 11] Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -------- FreeBSD Ports people CC Jordan, brent.welch@sun.com (EXMH author), Stuart.Arnold n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com Below is a new port (wrapper): ports/mail/exmh ( EXMH is a very nice X-Windows front end to the mail/mh package, ( This is a more polished version of the one I did in December, and newer than the package I ftp'd to kuku@gil (Aachen). This delivers manuals to the right FreeBSD places etc. ) EXMH is really worth trying, (please post a success report if you do), I first started using it as it allows vi or emacs (unlike XMH that (I believe) mandates emacs. EXMH supports folder very nicely, along with `mh', `mime', `procmail', & `popclient', the whole environment is just really nice now. I haven't looked at the existing hooks for pgp, glimpse etc yet. There are likely a few things Satoshi may want to rearrange to conform with bsd.port.mk, but the port is functional, & includes all the packages stuff. I would have placed a `binary' output of make package on ftp.freebsd.org, but the Atlantic link is unusually slow tonight, & 300K is too much to upload. Hopefully someone in the ncvs group will commit it in due course. ( I cannot, I was removed from ncvs for insufficient commits ... 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Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 19:00:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA20054 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-133.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19946 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) id BAA23288; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 01:46:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 01:46:10 +0100 (MET) From: "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <199601230046.BAA23288@vector.jhs.local> To: ports@freebsd.org cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , John Beukema Subject: jhs_tools - Julian Stacey's collection of tools. Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH [version 1.6.5 95 12 11] Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -------- I've been nudged to this by a few folk asking for my testblock.c program ... I've got an assortment of tools most of which I've been meaning to get round to making generally available for a long time now, I've never put up the whole lot as an archive anywhere, but they all compile on FreeBSD & Esix, and nearly all on DOS-3 & SCO. I'd be quite happy to release it under a standard UCB/BSD rights style header. Some are small & trivial, Some like `cmpd' are simple in theory, & replaceable by shell, (but if you look at the manual & C, you'll see why it's better). Some like `valid' are really rather nice programs (so friends say) :-) I'm just wondering if it might be worth - creating some kind of ports/misc/jhs &/or distfiles/jhs_tools.tar.gz - just toss 'em in my web hierarchy (though that restricts them to Web people), - or sort out the few really nice ones & merge em as individual ports I have no time to do pkg/* stuff just now (No, I'm not slacking off, I just spent the day on preparing another port :-), but they're all well behaved simple C with manuals, & most've been in regular use a long time. I've not bothered with sccs/cvs for this code ... yet. I'd rather not just service random requests by mail. Suggestions welcome as to best mechanism for me to maintain this lot available, at minimum effort to all concerned (where I define `all' as myself + people prepared to type "make all; make install"). PS I'm not a permanent net site myself, I'm dialup IP to freefall. The directory contains ---------- addcr(1) - Ensure each line terminates with a block(1) - Filter to output in fixed size blocks brackets(1) - Produce listing to help find C syntax errors cleanch(1) - Clean unpleasant characters from files cmpd(1) - Compares files, (optionally deleting duplicates) cursor(1) - set cursor shape for the pcvt VT220 video driver date_ver(1) - Produce a C language char string with revision date easter(1) - Generate table of easter dates filesize(1) - Report and exit according to numeric file size compar ison flash(1) - Flash lcd screen to test lcd response time le(1) - Extract a language (or variant) from a combined text linesplit(1) - Splits long lines > 80 chars, mailname(1) - Rename Mail & News files by date and originator mailsplit(1) - Split mail and news concatenations into separate file s news_strip(1) - Strip news of headers except From, Subject, Date notail(1) - Strip tailing empty lines from files notrail(1) - Strip trailing white space from lines overlay(1) - Overlay 2 files characater for character to output replace(1) - Replace strings in text or binary files rev(1) - reverse lines of a file satelite(1) - Output direction to point satelite antenna in slice(1) - Slice blocks (usually from tape) to sequentially numb ered files stat(1) - Print data about files obtained from stat(2) stretch(1) - Stretches documents vertically to allow for editing tab(1) - Convert spaces in a file to tabs, or tabs to spaces testblock(1) - Test block IO for media/driver errors valid(1) - Msdos & Unix disc data recovery & manipulation xd(1) - Hexadecimal display of file contents ------------ Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 19:46:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA24541 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24525 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA03443; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:46:25 -0800 To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: ports@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, brent.welch@sun.com, n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com Subject: Re: ports/mail/exmh In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:41:33 +0100." <199601230241.DAA25868@vector.jhs.local> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:46:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3441.822368785@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > -------- > > FreeBSD Ports people > CC Jordan, brent.welch@sun.com (EXMH author), > Stuart.Arnold n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com > > Below is a new port (wrapper): ports/mail/exmh > ( EXMH is a very nice X-Windows front end to the mail/mh package, > > ( This is a more polished version of the one I did in December, But still untested.. :-) root@time-> make >> exmh-1.6.5.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl. /tclexmh-1.6.5.tar.gz: No such file. The MASTER_SITES field needs a trailing `/', which in this case doesn't really matter anyway since it points to the wrong directory! :-) I believe that Alcatel has always put code like this in the `code' subdirectory, where one will indeed find the exmh package. The BUILD_DEPENDS are also entirely wrong, and force gratuitous repacks of both the TCL and Tk ports (hint - you have to match shared library names properly, as is done in other ports). Oh yeah, they're also not even supposed to be there - we use LIB_DEPENDS and EXEC_DEPENDS instead now, remember? The entire ports tree switched over quite some time back. Anyway, if you manage to get past all of that, you'll fall over in the build anyway here: ===> Building for exmh-1.6.5 make: cannot open Makefile. *** Error code 2 You forgot to set NO_BUILD since everything for exmh is really done in the install script. Also, don't ignore the return status from wish - it's important! You don't want to run `post-install' if the install falls over, do you? That'd look pretty funky. > There are likely a few things Satoshi may want to rearrange to conform with > bsd.port.mk, but the port is functional, & includes all the packages stuff. No, actually this port is almost a textbook example of how to do almost everything completely wrong! Kids, do NOT try this at home! :-) I think you need to go back over the ports collection again and learn from some of the examples. This port is in absolutely no shape to commit, much less use. Oh, and I'm actually be somewhat surprised if Brent were genuinely interested in any of this - we're talking about FreeBSD's `ports encapsulation' of his product, after all, and that's something likely to be of interest only to other FreeBSD ports weenies. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 20:09:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA26508 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26500 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01414 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:08:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: WARNING: proposed change to samba port Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:08:39 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? Speak now, or forever hold your piece. Paul From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 23:15:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA07673 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.34.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07662 Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA13917; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:15:15 -0800 From: Josh MacDonald Message-Id: <199601230715.XAA13917@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jmacd@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, jmacd@paris.CS.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: mit-scheme compiles with -O6 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jan 1996 04:21:42 PST." <199601171221.EAA02193@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:15:14 -0800 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I know that's what the original source said, but do we really want to > do this? I've heard that beyond -O2, higher optimization levels will > just introduce more bugs for negligible (or sometimes negative) speed > improvement. > > If you agree to drep this to -O or -O2, I will change it (there is a > hunk in the patch that already contains the "-O6" part :). > > Satoshi I don't think it matters... I'm sure -O2 is fine. -josh From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 22 23:52:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA12344 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12338 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA25626; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:55:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199601230755.IAA25626@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:55:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at Jan 22, 96 08:08:39 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. > > ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? > I wouldn't object if your changes would include changing the smb.conf.sample in a way reflecting the hierarchy changes. E.g. default log file names into /var/log/samba.log.%m and lock file directory perhaps /var/spool/lock. > Speak now, or forever hold your piece. > > Paul > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 00:37:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA15341 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15334 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA26876; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:36:43 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA14421; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:36:42 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA01924; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:09:25 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601230809.JAA01924@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: elm+mime port broken To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:09:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601222119.WAA23528@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Jan 22, 96 10:19:00 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > Tried to build elm+mime and found that make chokes > on filter/Makefile due to a leading tab in an empty line (line 92). You are using an old make(1). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 02:23:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA23958 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA23941 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id LAA25508; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:23:14 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche.bowtie.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA08133; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:56:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199601230956.KAA08133@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Paul Traina cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-reply-to: pst's message of Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:08:39 -0800. <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:56:50 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. > > ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? > > Speak now, or forever hold your piece. > > Paul Yes, I like to have programs installed in a hierarchy of their own. It helps me clean up things much more easily. Regards, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 02:27:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA24432 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA24222 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA26026; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:27:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199601231027.LAA26026@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: elm+mime port broken To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:27:44 +0100 (MET) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601230809.JAA01924@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 23, 96 09:09:25 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > As Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > > > Tried to build elm+mime and found that make chokes > > on filter/Makefile due to a leading tab in an empty line (line 92). > > You are using an old make(1). Maybe :-) But fixing the Makefile isn't a bad idea either. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 02:37:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA25762 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA25744 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA03821; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:36:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601231036.CAA03821@precipice.shockwave.com> To: Marc van Kempen cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:56:50 +0100." <199601230956.KAA08133@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:36:11 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sold. We have an objection, the patch will not be made. Sigh. :-( From: Marc van Kempen Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, an >>d > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. > > ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? > > Speak now, or forever hold your piece. > > Paul Yes, I like to have programs installed in a hierarchy of their own. It helps me clean up things much more easily. Regards, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 03:24:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01934 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01900 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id MAA05036; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:22:15 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA15510; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:22:15 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA02534; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:54:53 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601230854.JAA02534@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:54:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at Jan 22, 96 08:08:39 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Paul Traina wrote: > > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. I'm all for it! -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 04:16:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA08474 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA08467 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA00500; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:01:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601231201.EAA00500@precipice.shockwave.com> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:54:53 +0100." <199601230854.JAA02534@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:01:33 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk From: J Wunsch Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port I'm all for it! OK, most folks are for it, one objection. I said I wouldn't do it if there were any objections, however, to split a fine hair, I could always give you the patch file and you could apply it. :-) It would be best to gather rough consensus among the users first. Feel free to twist arms. Paul From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 06:04:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA19939 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA19828 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA13131 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:47:48 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:47:44 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.ru (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA01113; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:27:34 +0300 (MSK) To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org, "Christoph P. Kukulies" References: <199601222119.WAA23528@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> In-Reply-To: <199601222119.WAA23528@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from "Christoph P. K." at Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:19:00 +0100 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:27:33 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.42 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: elm+mime port broken Lines: 15 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199601222119.WAA23528@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Christoph P. K. writes: >Tried to build elm+mime and found that make chokes >on filter/Makefile due to a leading tab in an empty line (line 92). You need upgrade make to -current. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 09:16:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03281 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03268 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA18360; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:16:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:16:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Paul Traina cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Paul Traina wrote: > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. would smbclient, smbstatus, smbtar etc go in /usr/local/bin ? Also, on the same note as a current thread, shouldn't the config files go in /etc? (Seems like the settings for samba are similar to NFS ane /etc/exports in function so I put them in /etc when I installed on my box) Other than that, go for it, I've done this long ago. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 11:23:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09988 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09981 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA26198; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:23:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:23:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601231923.LAA26198@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: pst@shockwave.com CC: marc@bowtie.nl, ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199601231036.CAA03821@precipice.shockwave.com> (message from Paul Traina on Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:36:11 -0800) Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Sold. We have an objection, the patch will not be made. Hey, don't give up so easily. * Yes, I like to have programs installed in a hierarchy of their own. * It helps me clean up things much more easily. Isn't that what "pkg_delete" is for? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 11:44:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA11159 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11154 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA26227; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:43:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:43:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601231943.LAA26227@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ache@astral.msk.su CC: freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de In-reply-to: Subject: Re: elm+mime port broken From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * >Tried to build elm+mime and found that make chokes * >on filter/Makefile due to a leading tab in an empty line (line 92). * * You need upgrade make to -current. Whoa, Andrey, don't scare him. Even a 2.1R will do! ;) Christopher, we decided not to fix all the ports because there are sooooooooo many such Makefiles, and the last release of FreeBSD already has the make that doesn't have a problem with such constructs. Besides, the ports tree under FreeBSD-current is the only one we maintain. The rest are `dead' branches that will never change again in the history of computers. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 11:58:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA11864 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11855 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08294 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:58:09 -0500 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199601231958.OAA08294@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:58:09 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Traina writes: > From: J Wunsch > Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port > > I'm all for it! >OK, most folks are for it, one objection. I said I wouldn't do it if there >were any objections, however, to split a fine hair, I could always give you >the patch file and you could apply it. :-) >It would be best to gather rough consensus among the users first. >Feel free to twist arms. Im against, I like significant system packages to live in their own tree (e.g. /usr/X11R6) -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu http://rs560.msu.edu/~henrich/ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 12:15:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13150 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from deceased.hb.north.de (deceased.hb.north.de [194.94.232.249]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13143 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from jelal.hb.north.de by deceased.hb.north.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1) id m0tep6u-000ZNsC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 21:14 MET Received: by jelal.hb.north.de (SMail-ST 0.95gcc/2.5+) id AA00369; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:11:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA11343; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:53:58 +0100 From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199601231753.SAA11343@saturn> Subject: spectcl-01a To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:53:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I think Amancio asked for this but i seem to have lost the mail... The trick(?) is to use the supplied blt_table, the independently distributed BLT packages were all incompatible. (at least 1.8 and 1.9) Someone please clean this up and sync the paths with the `official' tk4.1 port, mine is in /usr/local/lib/tk4.1... and ask archie for a MASTER_SITE, sorry :) hope it helps, Juergen # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # Makefile # patches/ # patches/patch-aa # patches/patch-ab # echo x - Makefile sed 's/^X//' >Makefile << 'END-of-Makefile' X XPKGNAME= specTcl-0.1a XDISTNAME= SpecTcl-0.1a XCATEGORIES+= x11 X X Xdo-configure: X (cd ${WRKSRC}/blt_table; PREFIX=/usr/local TCLCONFIGINFO=/usr/local/lib/tcl7.5a2 ./configure) X XINSTALL=/usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin XINSTALL_PROGRAM=/usr/bin/install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 X Xdo-build: X (cd ${WRKSRC}/blt_table; make PREFIX=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/X11R6) X Xdo-install: X mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/SpecTcl/help X ${INSTALL} ${WRKSRC}/*.tk ${WRKSRC}/*.tcl ${WRKSRC}/*.xbm /usr/local/lib/SpecTcl X ${INSTALL} ${WRKSRC}/help/* /usr/local/lib/SpecTcl/help X ${INSTALL} ${WRKSRC}/spectcl /usr/local/bin X ${INSTALL} ${WRKSRC}/blt_table/Blt.so /usr/local/lib/tk4.1 X X.include END-of-Makefile echo c - patches/ mkdir -p patches/ > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - patches/patch-aa sed 's/^X//' >patches/patch-aa << 'END-of-patches/patch-aa' XIndex: bind.tk X@@ -39,7 +39,11 @@ X widget_extract .sample_$widget sample_$widget X form_build .generic.form sample_$widget X if {![winfo ismapped .generic]} { X- parray Geometry X+ X+ if [array exists Geometry] { X+ parray Geometry X+ } X+ #parray Geometry X wm deiconify .generic X catch {wm geometry .generic $Geometry(generic)} X } XIndex: blt_table/Makefile.in X@@ -7,7 +7,8 @@ X SHLIB_LD = @SHLIB_LD@ X SHLIB_SUFFIX = @SHLIB_SUFFIX@ X CC = cc X-SRC_DIR = /usr/local/tcl/src X+#SRC_DIR = /usr/local/tcl/src X+SRC_DIR = /usr/local/include X VERSION = a1 X START=. X X@@ -23,7 +24,8 @@ X -I${SRC_DIR}/tcl7.5${VERSION} \ X -I${SRC_DIR}/tk4.1${VERSION}/generic \ X -I${SRC_DIR}/tk4.1${VERSION}/unix \ X- -I/usr/openwin/include \ X+ -I/usr/X11R6/include \ X+ -I/usr/local/include \ X ${SHLIB_CFLAGS} $(AC_FLAGS) X X all: Blt${SHLIB_SUFFIX} XIndex: filters.tk X@@ -33,6 +33,9 @@ X X proc InFilter_font {variable args} { X upvar $variable data X+ if {![regexp {^-.*} $data]} { X+ set data [exec xprop -font $data | sed -n "2,15{s/.* = /-/;p;}" | tr -d \\012 ] X+ } X set fields [split $data -] X if {[llength $fields] != 15} { X uplevel "set $variable {}" XIndex: spectcl X@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ X # of this file, and for a DISCLAIMER OF ALL WARRANTIES. X # X # Change DIR to the directory that contains the SpecTcl source files X-DIR=/usr/local/SpecTcl X+DIR=/usr/local/lib/SpecTcl X X # Change WISH to the pathname of your tk4.1a2 (or >) wish binary X WISH=/usr/local/bin/wish4.1 END-of-patches/patch-aa echo x - patches/patch-ab sed 's/^X//' >patches/patch-ab << 'END-of-patches/patch-ab' XIndex: main.tk X@@ -20,6 +20,10 @@ X catch {blt_table} ;# force autoloading X X if {[info commands blt_table] == ""} { X+ load /usr/local/lib/tk4.1/Blt[info sharedlibextension] BLT X+} X+ X+if {[info commands blt_table] == ""} { X tk_dialog .exit "Version Error" \ X "SpecTcl requires the \"blt_table\" geometry manager" \ X error 0 OK END-of-patches/patch-ab exit From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 14:26:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23548 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23543 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA20561; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:26:11 -0800 To: Marc van Kempen cc: Paul Traina , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jan 1996 10:56:50 +0100." <199601230956.KAA08133@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:26:11 -0800 Message-ID: <20552.822435971@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk That's actually kind of a bogus argument. By those rights, we've have everything from /usr/local/bash to /usr/local/emacs! Where does one draw the line? By size? I don't think so since that would only lead to a hodge-podge of ports with everyone's differing opinions of which ones were "big enough to get their own hierarchy" I think that /usr/local/samba should die. It's the odd-man out here. I agree with Paul. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 17:22:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA04569 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04562 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id CAA09527; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:22:46 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id CAA27967; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:22:45 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA06949; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 00:23:19 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601232323.AAA06949@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 00:23:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601231958.OAA08294@crh.cl.msu.edu> from "Charles Henrich" at Jan 23, 96 02:58:09 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Charles Henrich wrote: > > >It would be best to gather rough consensus among the users first. > >Feel free to twist arms. > > Im against, I like significant system packages to live in their own tree (e.g. > /usr/X11R6) This (as well as X11) is against the policy that /usr can be mounted read/only. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 18:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09060 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.191.196.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08633 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by misery.sdf.com id <961>; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:02:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Paul Traina cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: <199601230408.UAA01414@precipice.shockwave.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Paul Traina wrote: > I would like to fix the samba port to install in /usr/local in a fashion > more appropriate for BSD unix (e.g. use /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/sbin, and > /var) instead of the /usr/local/samba heirarchy. > > ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? > > Speak now, or forever hold your piece. > > Paul > Yes, please do. I've been wanting this for a long time. Tom From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jan 23 19:32:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA13982 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13871 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA25472; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:09:33 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601240339.OAA25472@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:09:33 +1030 (CST) Cc: marc@bowtie.nl, pst@shockwave.com, ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20552.822435971@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 23, 96 02:26:11 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > That's actually kind of a bogus argument. By those rights, we've have > everything from /usr/local/bash to /usr/local/emacs! Where does one draw > the line? By size? I don't think so since that would only lead to a > hodge-podge of ports with everyone's differing opinions of which ones were > "big enough to get their own hierarchy" /usr/local/packages/samba ln -s /usr/local/packages/samba/bin/smbd /usr/local/libexec/smbd ... I'd much prefer to have a farm of stale symlinks than try to pick the teeth of /usr/local. However, I'm aware we have a philosophy, so we might as well stick to it. > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 01:17:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA13296 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 01:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA13291 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 01:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA27323; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:17:34 PST Date: Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:17:34 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601240917.AA27323@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander 3.1 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander 3.1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Sorry for the totaly broadcast... But just passing on that this has been updated (and thus so will the FBSD port). BTW, there was no maintainer listed in the port's Makefile. :-( -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) In article you wrote: : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : : : Announcing... : : THE MIDNIGHT COMMANDER V3.1 : : : What's new on 3.1 : : * Added undelete feature on Linux based GNU systems: now you may recover : deleted files on ext2 file systems with the Undelete file system feature. : * Enhanced the ftp file system: : + Displays progress bars on ftp transfers. : + Supports Windows NT servers. : + Better support for symlinked files. : + Handles those funny looking file names on warez sites. : + Increased the directory cache tiemout. : + Directory cache flushing (press C-r). : + If you append a /~ to the directory you chdir into, you will log into : your home directory (this is done by default if you use the menus to : make your connection). : + More robust. : * Subshell fixes (it should not hang any longer). : + Fixes prompt hanlding for zsh ans tchs users. : + Fixes variable expansion for tcsh (now you may edit files, there was a : bug in previous versions that wouldn't let you invoke an editor if you : were using tcsh). : + Rewrote the sync code between the parent and child. : * Keypad handling enhanced. : + Special key treatment for +, -, \ and now may be configure to only take : place if you do not have a command typed in. : + Now the + and \ bindings when ran on the Linux console work may use the : keypad and M-+ and M-\ and leave the + and \ keys free. : * Better handling of the line drawing chars on OSF/1 : * Enhanced tar/compressed file systems. : * Global kill ring. : * Symlink commands (for symlink lovers). : * Better command completion. : * New macros: : + %b and %B return the basename of the selected filename. : + %var{ENVVAR} expands to the contents of the ENV-VAR variable. : * Now MC may be invoked as a file viewer (using -v flag). : * Added Unicode support on Linux consoles (run with mc -N). : * Tons of bug fixes. : * Allow a vfs pathname to be passed as a startup directory (you may now invoke : mc like this: mc ftp://sunsite.unc.edu). : : Briefly : : : : The Midnight Commander is a Unix file manager and shell, useful to novice and : guru alikes. It is available by FTP from the following sites: : * ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx: /linux/local/mc-3.1.2.tar.gz (the official site) : * sunsite.unc.edu and mirrors: Linux/utils/file/managers/mc-3.1.2.tar.gz : * prep.ai.mit.edu and mirrors: /pub/gnu/mc-3.1.2.tar.gz : : MD5 checksum: : : 09b81166c49009613f72ba683f92e493 b mc-3.1.2.tar.gz : : Binaries for various architectures are available in: : * ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx in: /linux/local/bin-dist. : : Longly : : : : The Midnight Commander (previous name: Mouseless Commander) is a user-friendly : yet powerful file manager and visual shell for Unix systems. For the Unix : neophyte it provides a clear, user-friendly, and somewhat protected interface to : the complexities of a Unix system. For the expert user, it can make many : frequent operations more efficient: shifting large groups of files around and : many other common file managing tasks. It works with any text terminal, supports : also color terminals and looks very nice (see sample screen shots). : : The Commander's current features include: : * General features : + Full mouse support on xterm and the Linux console. : + Virtual File System: you now can browse tar, compressed tar, network : file systems and FTP directories. : + A built-in file viewer with ASCII and hex modes, regexp string : searching, optional automatic file decompression, horizontal scrolling, : goto-line, attributes, growing buffers, piped input, etc. : + Hypertext online context-sensitive help. : + General user interface improvements: more keys do what you might expect : them to do (C-c to cancel things, C-g for emacs users, etc.) : * Command execution features : + Emacs-like command line editing. : + A history of entered shell commands. : + An extensible, flexible user-defined menu system. : + User-defined default actions on files, according to their name or : contents, (for example, you can bind xv %f to gif files). : + If you use bash, tcsh or zsh, the Commander will run with a concurrent : shell process and feed all your shell commands to it, instead of : spawning a new shell to run every command you type. Apart from the gain : in speed, this means that you can use all your usual aliases and shell : functions, as well as job control, command history, variable : substitution, background processes and so on. You can switch the : Commander's display on and off at any time with a single keystroke, and : when it is off you appear to be in your usual login shell. : * File management features : + Mask copying/renaming of files (as in: "rename s.*.tar.gz : source.*.tgz"). : + Secure recursive file deleting, copying and moving operations. : + A "directory hotlist" to let you move to directories you frequently use : with very few keystrokes. : + Incremental and wrap-around searching for file and directory names. : + Directory compare feature. : + Quick-view mode: automatically display the currently selected file in : the other panel. Uncompression is performed automatically, and only as : needed, so you never have to wait. : + A visual "tree" display of directory structures, which allows you to : navigate rapidly through your file system (you can copy, remove, and : move directories within this mode). The tree is built as you use it, : so, again, you needn't sit there twiddling your thumbs while you wait : for the tree to be built (but you can if you want to ;-) : + Re-written, vastly improved find-file feature. File searches can be : interrupted and resumed, and the resulting list of files can be : manipulated usefully within the Commander. : + New external panelize feature. This is somehow generalized version of : find-file, which fills your panel with output of any command producing : newline separated filenames (find, awk, etc.). You can save often used : commands into an database under certain names (like 'SetUID and SetGID : files in cwd'). : + Info view mode: detailed information in the other panel about the : currently selected file and current file system. : + File and directory management operations: tag, delete, copy, rename, : move, create links (hard and symbolic), chmod, chown, etc. Detailed : information and control is available during these operations: : percentage-done figures are displayed (only in verbose mode), and you : can stop the operation at any time, skip files, decide what to do about : files which are about to be overwritten (you can overwrite all, none, : do an update - copy newer files, single file you can skip, overwrite or : append to the destination). : * And it's configurable, too : + User-definable file listing formats: you can specify which data fields : are to be displayed, their size and alignment, etc. : + Screen layout control: the file panels are resizable, and can appear : side by side or one above the other. The keybar at the bottom as well : as the menu and the message bars can be removed to save screen space. : + On Linux based GNU systems, you can specify a certain number of lines : at the bottom of the screen to be used as a command output area; the : Commander will leave output from your shell commands undisturbed in : this area, so you don't have to use C-o to see it. : + Message bar: if you are new to the Midnight Commander, on this line you : will see hints about how to use the program. You can turn this line : off, if you get tired of them. : + Configurable colors: you can define a default color scheme, and : alternative schemes which are selected according to the terminal you : are using. : + 8-bit clean support, for viewing national characters and symbols. : + You can teach the Midnight Commander the key definitions for your : terminal, you don't require root privileges or to be nice with your : sysadmin. : * And there's a lot more. : : Requirements : : : : The Midnight Commander currently runs (at least) on Linux 1.0, through 1.3, : NetBSD 1.0, SunOS 4.1, Solaris 2.3, Irix 5.2, Ultrix 4.3, Aix 3.2.5, A/UX, HP-UX : 7, HP-UX 9, UnixWare. And since it is configured with GNU autoconf, it should be : straightforward to port it to other systems. : : If you are using a Linux based GNU system, you may be interested in getting the : gpm mouse server (to get mouse support on the Linux console) or you may want to : get ncurses for managing your screen instead of the default Slang screen : manager. All of the auxilary packages are available in ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx, so : that you can download them at the same time as the Commander if you wish. They : are: : : : * ncurses (optional). : + ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx in /linux/local : + ftp.netcom.com in /pub/zm/zmbenhal : + Notes: : : Don't get ncurses 1.8.6; it's buggy. If ncurses hasn't been ported to : your system you can try to build the Commander with the native curses : library on your system. This works well on System V flavored systems, : but it may not be very pretty or even usable on BSD systems. : * gpm-1.06 : + ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx in /linux/local : + iride.unipv.it in /pub/gpm : + Notes: : : This is the excellent Linux "General Purpose Mouse" server; needed if : you want mouse support in Linux virtual consoles. : * rxvt 2.14 : + ftp.nuclecu.unam.mx in /linux/local/rxvt : + Notes: : : This is a fast and small color terminal emulator for X, the Midnight : Commander will autodetect color on this version of the rxvt program. : : More Information : : : : WWW page: there is a Midnight Commander page on the World Wide Web containing : screen snapshots of the program, links to some relevant FTP sites, archives of : the mailing lists, etc. The URL is: : * http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto/mc/ : : : : Please send bug reports to: mc-bugs@nuclecu.unam.mx : : Mailing lists: the following Commander-related lists are available: : mc : General discussion of the Midnight Commander : mc-digest : The mc list, in digest format : mc-announce : Major announcements about the Commander : mc-patch : The latest Commander patches (4-8 per week) : mc-devel : Technical development discussion (open to all comers) : : : : To subscribe, send e-mail to majordomo@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx with the : following line in the body of the message: : * subscribe [optional-address] : : The MC Development Team : : * Radek Doulik (rodo@earn.cvut.cz) : * Ching Hui (u811563@Oz.nthu.edu.tw) : * Miguel de Icaza (miguel@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx) : * Jakub Jelinek (jj@gnu.ai.mit.edu) : * Janne Kukonlehto (jtklehto@paju.oulu.fi) : * Fred Leeflang (fredl@nebula.ow.nl) : * Mauricio Plaza (mok@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx) : * Dugan O. 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From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 02:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA18253 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA18245 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id MAA16291 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:44:48 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id LAA18143 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:06:58 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id LAA28236 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:06:57 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199601240906.LAA28236@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:06:57 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: <20552.822435971@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 23, 96 02:26:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk # I think that /usr/local/samba should die. It's the odd-man out here. # I agree with Paul. # ... and at least all the manpages for all the ports will go to a single /usr/local/man place where man (1) will find them easily... :-) # Jordan # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 An undocumented feature is a coding error. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 03:20:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA20599 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 03:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA20565 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 03:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA29612 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:08:28 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:08:28 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.ru (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA04082; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:03:06 +0300 (MSK) To: Peter Wemm , Ollivier Robert Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org References: <199601221813.TAA04300@keltia.freenix.fr> In-Reply-To: <199601221813.TAA04300@keltia.freenix.fr>; from Ollivier Robert at Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:13:32 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:03:06 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.42 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ssh /etc config files location.. Lines: 20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199601221813.TAA04300@keltia.freenix.fr> Ollivier Robert writes: >I know we generally don't allow ports to touch /etc but I agree that we >should configure our port to install in /etc/ssh. It also avoid cluttering >/etc. >> I'd like to undo the patches that do this... Does anybody want to try >> and convince me otherwise? :-) >Not me. I always use /etc/ssh. I agree with /etc/ssh! Obviously it isn't /etc clobbering because it maybe even symlink. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 06:40:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA01046 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 06:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from npd.ufsc.br (npd.ufsc.br [150.162.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA01041 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 06:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra5.dial.ufsc.br (ra5.dial.ufsc.br [150.162.246.5]) by npd.ufsc.br (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA15329 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:37:38 -0300 Message-Id: <199601241537.MAA15329@npd.ufsc.br> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 12:15:52 -0800 From: Jose Luiz Crivelatti de Abreu Organization: Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello ! Please send me more informations about GN Gopher Server by E-Mail. Thanks !!! From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 18:39:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA14914 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-133.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14815 Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA03843; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:47:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601242147.WAA03843@vector.jhs.local> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.local: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: ports@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, brent.welch@sun.com, n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com, root@thud.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/mail/exmh Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:46:25 PST." <3441.822368785@time.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:47:44 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > > > Below is a new port (wrapper): ports/mail/exmh > > ( EXMH is a very nice X-Windows front end to the mail/mh package, > > > > ( This is a more polished version of the one I did in December, > > But still untested.. :-) Not untested, It works for me, but I did say it would doubtless need additional tweaks from a ports person ;-) I've done as much testing as is convenient here: - While working on it I tried running make & make install on both my prime development box, & my 2nd gate box, I also ran pkg_add on my gate box. - I have several times asked why the freefall motd still refers to the `thud' crash, & invites one to mail to arrange recovery of one's login/passwd & yet my thud login/passwd remains unrepaired, so I can't test on the official (& convenient to my USA ISP) test site. (Perhap root@thud gets its mail forwarded off line, & when root is on line, my `please repair jhs passwd' mail is no longer to hand.) .... so I can't test on thud, & testing ports on freefall has been previously discouraged. - I did some earlier incomplete work on a host in Aachen, but as my ISP is USA based, the double Atlantic hop slowed progress. If you want me to test on thud, root@thud needs to fix my damaged passwd entry. > root@time-> make > >> exmh-1.6.5.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl. > /tclexmh-1.6.5.tar.gz: No such file. > > The MASTER_SITES field needs a trailing `/', > which in this case > doesn't really matter anyway since it points to the wrong directory! :-) > I believe that Alcatel has always put code like this in the `code' > subdirectory, where one will indeed find the exmh package. OK, I've had my distfile about a month so didnt notice this. I assume you are reccomending MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl/code/ > The BUILD_DEPENDS are also entirely wrong, and force gratuitous > repacks of both the TCL and Tk ports (hint - you have to match shared > library names properly, as is done in other ports). OK Thanks. > Oh yeah, they're also not even supposed to be there - we use > LIB_DEPENDS and EXEC_DEPENDS instead now, remember? Is BUILD_DEPENDS deprecated in Makefile then ? or not ? or merely not appropriate in this Makefile ? There is no note for or against usage of BUILD_DEPENDS in current src/share/mk/bsd.port.mk variables definition section. but there is this further down: # The following 4 lines should go away as soon as the ports are all updated .if defined(EXEC_DEPENDS) BUILD_DEPENDS+= ${EXEC_DEPENDS} RUN_DEPENDS+= ${EXEC_DEPENDS} .endif > The entire ports tree switched over quite some time back. I'm not clear, hard to believe you might mean from using BUILD_DEPENDS, as cd /usr/ports ; grep BUILD_DEPENDS */*/Makefile reports: archivers/unzip.with_encryption archivers/zip.with_encryption comms/hylafax comms/rzsz databases/gnats devel/noweb editors/uemacs games/xpacman japanese/ghostscript japanese/kinput2-canna+wnn japanese/kinput2-wnn japanese/mule-wnn japanese/netscape.language japanese/platex japanese/xdvi lang/pTk mail/pgpsendmail mail/smail net/zircon news/nntp print/latex print/latex209 print/musixtex print/texinfo russian/pgp.language security/pgp security/ssh www/gn www/lynx So I guess you mean something else. Is this what it needs ? EXEC_DEPENDS= tcl:${PORTSDIR}/lang/tcl LIB_DEPENDS= tcl\\.7\\.:${PORTSDIR}/lang/tcl LIB_DEPENDS+= tk\\.3\\.:${PORTSDIR}/x11/tk > Anyway, if you manage to get past all of that, you'll fall over > in the build anyway here: > > ===> Building for exmh-1.6.5 > make: cannot open Makefile. > *** Error code 2 I saw this too, but too ntermitently/rarely to be able to debug it. > You forgot to set NO_BUILD since everything for exmh is really done in > the install script. OK, Done ( I haven't created a NO_BUILD port before, it's only used in a few ports: graphics/spigot russian/{ X.language elm.language netscape.language netscape2.language pgp.language } www/arena ) > Also, don't ignore the return status from wish - > it's important! You don't want to run `post-install' if the install > falls over, do you? That'd look pretty funky. Yes right, it was a hangover from when I was testing the Makefile label, & wanted to click the quit button & fast continue the test install. It's gone. > > There are likely a few things Satoshi may want to rearrange to conform with > > bsd.port.mk, but the port is functional, & includes all the packages stuff. > > No, actually this port is almost a textbook example of how to do > almost everything completely wrong! Kids, do NOT try this at home! :-) > > I think you need to go back over the ports collection again and learn > from some of the examples. How to tell a good example from a bad one in a pool of 300 ? Do good ones not contain BUILD_DEPENDS ? > This port is in absolutely no shape to commit, That is a perfectionist attitude. The fixes were trivial, & nearly all involve package stuff, which is not important to those who use source + make install. Not everyone lives & dies by packages. Quite a few people are happy if `make ; make install' can save them time. The Makefile has always been capable of that (apart from the fetch, but there was an alternate site for that too). Not that we don't want packages too, but if it's not in the tree, source users are denied something just because it has'nt been fixed to package users much more demanding requirements. Incidentally, I left the other distfile URL hashed out because I thought bsd.ports.mk couldn't handle 2 alternate distfiles of type site_a:/bla/bla/distfile.gz site_b:blah/blah/distfile.Z (because I've only ever noticed 1 md5 file for a port, + varied EXTRACT_SUFX) I've adopted all your changes, where I could discern your meaning - unfortunately you sent very little specific syntax, context diffs or specific syntax would have reduced your previous & this mail. I've also done other enhancements. I append a new Makefile. Please let me know if you have further problems. > much less use. This is _Nonsense_ ! It's already in use here, I'm using it to write this. The warpper even holds your hand & points the way what to mod. to set a reply-to field for dynamic-ip-no-allocation sites. ` BTW The package is: 327554 /usr/ports/mail/exmh/exmh-1.6.5.tgz That's the bit that might most likely need a tweak or 2, the tk & tcl package bundling stuff for folks without source, this I'm not sure about, & would particularly welcome fixes if necessary. > Oh, and I'm actually be somewhat surprised if Brent were genuinely > interested in any of this - we're talking about FreeBSD's `ports > encapsulation' of his product, after all, and that's something likely > to be of interest only to other FreeBSD ports weenies. Well I imagine he can speak for himself, I cc'd him out of politeness, as his EXMH will get more FreeBSD users. Perhaps you'd like to drop him a note, when the wrapper is commited & announced though ? /usr/ports/mail/exmh/Makefile ----------------{ # New ports collection makefile for: exmh # Version required: 1.6.5 # Date released: 23 Jan '95 # Whom: Julian Stacey # `make install' configures options interactively, using X & wish DISTNAME= exmh-1.6.5 CATEGORIES+= mail KEYWORDS+= x11 # Master site nominated by EXMH author Brent Welch # Wasn't running an ftpd when jhs tried. # MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.sunlabs.com/pub/tcl/exmh/ # EXTRACT_SUFX= .tar.Z # Where jhs got his: MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.aud.alcatel.com/tcl/code/ MAINTAINER= jhs@FreeBSD.org # IS_INTERACTIVE= yes # make install is interactive, make is not EXEC_DEPENDS= tcl:${PORTSDIR}/lang/tcl LIB_DEPENDS= tcl\\.7\\.:${PORTSDIR}/lang/tcl LIB_DEPENDS+= tk\\.3\\.:${PORTSDIR}/x11/tk NO_BUILD= YES # INSTALL_DEPENDS+= wish # used during interactive installation BUILD_DEPENDS+= ${INSTALL_DEPENDS} # .port.mk has no INSTALL_DEPENDS RUN_DEPENDS+= mh:${PORTSDIR}/mail/mh # Essential RUN_DEPENDS+= x11:${PORTSDIR}/x11/XFree86 # EXMH is X-Windows based # RUN_DEPENDS+= metamail:${PORTSDIR}/mail/metamail # not essential, but nice # RUN_DEPENDS+= expect faces pgp glimpse # not yet configured for these WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${DISTNAME} PREFIX_LIB=${PREFIX}/lib EXMH_MAN=${PREFIX}/man/man1 post-patch: reply-to # gets called by a simple make @echo ${WRKSRC}/lib/report.tcl pre-install: reply-to # does not get called from make install @echo ${WRKSRC}/lib/report.tcl @echo then run make install again. # I have not used something of the form of a popclient style # cp ${WRKSRC}/popclient.man ${WRKSRC}/popclient.1 # as the wish -f exmh.install handles manuals, & is patched by patch-aa pre-package: reply-to # gets called by make package @echo ${PREFIX_LIB}/${DISTNAME}/report.tcl @echo "after having aborted the current 'make package'." @echo "Then run 'make package' again." reply-to: # This warning should be called from various labels @echo -n If the host you are installing on has no permanent Internet @echo " domain address," @echo -n but receives varying dynamicly assigned IP @echo " addresses per connection then in:" @echo " lib/report.tcl" @echo after @echo ' puts $out "Subject: exmh bug"' @echo -n you should append an email Reply-To: field with a valid domain, @echo " example:" @echo ' puts $out "Reply-To: exmh-bug-master@your-host.your-domain"' @echo Please consider running @echo -n " vi -c/Subject: " post-extract: cd ${WRKSRC} ; \ mv exmh-custom.l exmh-custom.1 ; \ mv exmh-ref.l exmh-ref.1 ; \ mv exmh-tables.l exmh-tables.1 ; \ mv exmh-use.l exmh-use.1 ; \ mv exmh.l exmh.1 ; install: if [ ! -d ${PREFIX_LIB}/${DISTNAME} ]; \ then /bin/mkdir -p ${PREFIX_LIB}/${DISTNAME}; fi cd ${WRKSRC} ; wish -f exmh.install make post-install # I've not joined this label to install because in procmail/Makefile it's done # after install. post-install: .if !defined(NOMANCOMPRESS) gzip -9nf ${EXMH_MAN}/exmh-custom.1 ${EXMH_MAN}/exmh-ref.1 \ ${EXMH_MAN}/exmh-tables.1 ${EXMH_MAN}/exmh-use.1 ${EXMH_MAN}/exmh.1 .endif .include ----------------} -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jan 24 21:56:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA07140 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07131 Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA06836; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:56:04 -0800 To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: ports@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, brent.welch@sun.com, n1epo4tl@ibmmail.com, root@thud.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/mail/exmh In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:47:44 +0100." <199601242147.WAA03843@vector.jhs.local> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:56:03 -0800 Message-ID: <6831.822549363@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > That is a perfectionist attitude. The fixes were trivial, & nearly all Hardly! As I said, it was hosed in almost *every* major respect, and to be honest if I were to do a port of exmh today I would simply start from the beginning. It would be less work than fixing yours. > This is _Nonsense_ ! It's already in use here, I'm using it to write this. Yes, because you, probably through the process of developing the port itself, managed to get it installed. You definitely didn't manage to do it using what you submitted - that would have been an impossibility, sorry. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 02:05:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA11260 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.intecc.co.uk [194.72.95.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11235 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jacs@localhost) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA03368; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:04:14 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:04:14 GMT From: Chris Stenton Subject: colorls-2.1 will not make To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Just tried to make colorls-2.1 got the following error I think it should cd to /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/ls not /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls Chris hawk: {10} make ===> colorls-2.1 depends on executable: ncftp2 - found >> No checksum recorded for ls.tar.gz Checksums OK for files that have them. ===> Extracting for colorls-2.1 ===> Patching for colorls-2.1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for colorls-2.1 patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 02:27:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA13923 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunrise.cs.berkeley.edu (sunrise.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA13918 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by sunrise.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA10615; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:26:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:26:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199601251026.CAA10615@sunrise.cs.berkeley.edu> To: jacs@gnome.co.uk CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Chris Stenton on Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:04:14 GMT) Subject: Re: colorls-2.1 will not make From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * I think it should cd to /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/ls * * not /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls You've got the wrong tarball. Alternatively, you can edit the Makefile and change the WRKSRC= line. Sorry. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 08:43:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00922 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.intecc.co.uk [194.72.95.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00914 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jacs@localhost) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA06259; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:43:01 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:43:01 GMT From: Chris Stenton Subject: Netscape 2b6a & Quicktime movies To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know how to configure Netscape2 for quicktime movies? For example http://www.cnn.com/video_vault/index.html Chris From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 13:02:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18807 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18796 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA14912; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:45:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from knobel.gun.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02470; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:37:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:37:32 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: <20552.822435971@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I think that /usr/local/samba should die. It's the odd-man out here. > I agree with Paul. Concerning samba I disagree. I still would like to have /usr/local/samba to see every related program... Maybe it's because my bonehead is used the Solaris 2.x idea of packaging system add on packages in /opt/SUNWxxxx/{bin,lib,man} It's a great advantage to have an own directory hierarchie for a package, if it's new for you or if you want to see very quickly, what stuff belongs to the package. Another advantage is, that you have the manpages in one place. I really would like packages being installed like in the ports hierarchie on the CD-ROM... For example: /usr/local/www/cached-1.4/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} /usr/local/sysutils/top-3.3/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} I'd then make symlinks to /usr/local/{bin,man/man...},... It's a nice cleaver idea _not_ to have a monster /usr/local/bin with lot's of utilities. In the past I have seen many utilities in /usr/local/bin, for which no manpages are available. It's not so nice to have such utilities in /usr/local/bin... It's really much more comfortable to have separate directory structures for your packages. You should relax, try it and make your own experiences, it's worth ! BTW: ls /usr/local/bin | wc -l 415 -> awful, 415 utilities in /usr/local/bin ... ls /usr/local/man/man1 | wc -l 335 -> and only 335 manual pages available .... It's in my opineon much more complicated, if you have to dig around in /var/db/pkg, to search, to what package an utility belongs... You have better overview over the contents of a package, when not putting everything into /usr/local/bin. I vote for a redesign of FreeBSD-ports and to leave samba port as it is. Und jetzt schnell in Deckung gehen .... ;-))) Andreas /// -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 13:03:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18880 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18868 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA14987; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:45:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from knobel.gun.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02499; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:40:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:40:25 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm To: Joerg Wunsch cc: Charles Henrich , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: <199601232323.AAA06949@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > As Charles Henrich wrote: > > > > >It would be best to gather rough consensus among the users first. > > >Feel free to twist arms. > > > > Im against, I like significant system packages to live in their own tree (e.g. > > /usr/X11R6) > > This (as well as X11) is against the policy that /usr can be mounted > read/only. Ok, that's an argument ... I should have read your reply before writing so much ... But I think this problem could be solved easily by permitting packages, that write log / lock - files, to write them to a proper place into /var... Andreas /// -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jan 25 19:14:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29277 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29272 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA15086; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:14:12 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 21:14:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Andreas Klemm cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > I really would like packages being installed like in the ports > hierarchie on the CD-ROM... > For example: > > /usr/local/www/cached-1.4/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} > /usr/local/sysutils/top-3.3/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} > I'd then make symlinks to /usr/local/{bin,man/man...},... Um... thats sick. The point about where to install packages to ease their removal is moot. Use pkg_del or whatever its called. If you install it by hand then you can put it whereever you like. > BTW: ls /usr/local/bin | wc -l 415 > -> awful, 415 utilities in /usr/local/bin ... > > ls /usr/local/man/man1 | wc -l 335 > -> and only 335 manual pages available .... Um... Some things don't have manual pages. The dir structure is not to blame for this. > It's in my opineon much more complicated, if you have to dig around > in /var/db/pkg, to search, to what package an utility belongs... No, we just need a way to pull this up easily. pkg_info -L maybe? | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 00:25:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA20387 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20217 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA01216; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:49 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA26276; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:46 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA18737; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:19:50 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601260819.JAA18737@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: pcemu & COM ports To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:19:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: smp@csn.net (Steve Passe) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601260026.RAA25136@clem.systemsix.com> from "Steve Passe" at Jan 25, 96 05:26:02 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Redirected to freebsd-ports, where this belongs. As Steve Passe wrote: > > Am I correct in believing that pcemu has no way of emulating > a COM[1234] port via attachment to a /dev/ttydxxx port? You are. > Has anyone found a solution to this problem? The solution is not difficult, basically you have to implement a 0x14 type BIOS service module into pcemu, and you gotta do things like modem locking on the BSD end. int 0x14 sucks, most programs don't use it at all since it only allows for speed up to 9600 Baud. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 00:36:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA21591 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21563 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id JAA08088; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:30:33 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00612; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:00 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm Message-Id: <199601260821.JAA00612@knobel.gun.de> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Jan 25, 96 09:14:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > I really would like packages being installed like in the ports > > hierarchie on the CD-ROM... > > For example: > > > > /usr/local/www/cached-1.4/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} > > /usr/local/sysutils/top-3.3/{bin,lib,man/man[12345678n]} > > I'd then make symlinks to /usr/local/{bin,man/man...},... > > Um... thats sick. The point about where to install packages to > ease their removal is moot. Use pkg_del or whatever its called. > If you install it by hand then you can put it whereever you like. Just a moment. I don't want to favour this installation hierarchie only for the ease of removal. Completely mistaken, that wasn't my intention. It makes it easy to see directly what programs, utilities, manpages and so on belong to the packages ... If you have to deal with a complete new package, let's say inn-1.4, then it's a big advantage to have everything in one place. It makes it easier to learn to use the package. > > BTW: ls /usr/local/bin | wc -l 415 > > -> awful, 415 utilities in /usr/local/bin ... > > > > ls /usr/local/man/man1 | wc -l 335 > > -> and only 335 manual pages available .... > > Um... Some things don't have manual pages. The dir structure is not > to blame for this. But another directory structure would make very easy to see, to what package it belongs. > > It's in my opineon much more complicated, if you have to dig around > > in /var/db/pkg, to search, to what package an utility belongs... > > No, we just need a way to pull this up easily. pkg_info -L maybe? Ok, not bad. Andreas /// -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 02:01:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA28246 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 02:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28241 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 02:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA00680; Fri, 26 Jan 96 02:01:24 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601261001.AA00680@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: imake & /usr/local To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 02:01:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199601092005.VAA00637@mordillo> from "Thomas Graichen" at Jan 9, 96 09:05:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > change the imake stuff that way that all the imake'd ports go into > /usr/local (or something other definable != /usr/X11R6) - so that you > can reinstall the XFree86-distribution without thinking about all the > installed ports there (same for all the config, lib, app-default-files > of the ports too ...) If we get to vote on this, I'd perfer X ports to go somewhere into local. Also, what about /usr/local/man being /usr/local/share/man??? And better attemps from porters to use /usr/local/etc or /usr/local/share vs. /usr/local/lib for many files. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 02:52:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA29793 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 02:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29788 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 02:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA01304; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 04:52:24 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 04:52:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Andreas Klemm cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port In-Reply-To: <199601260821.JAA00612@knobel.gun.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Just a moment. I don't want to favour this installation > hierarchie only for the ease of removal. Completely mistaken, > that wasn't my intention. It makes it easy to see directly > what programs, utilities, manpages and so on belong to the > packages ... If you have to deal with a complete new package, > let's say inn-1.4, then it's a big advantage to have everything > in one place. It makes it easier to learn to use the package. Inn goes in /usr/local/news. The userland NFS utils and daemons live with everybody else, and I see no reason why a utility set that provides much of the same services should have its own dir structure. > But another directory structure would make very easy to see, > to what package it belongs. For the most part I don't want to see it. If I install it from the packages/ports collection, chances are its not something I want to bother with. Hell, I don't back up /usr/local because its so easy to do a pkg_add *.tgz if I have to reinstall. On the other hand, the local utils I have to fuss with have their source trees in /usr/local/src, which I back up. If I want to see what files are used, I go there. > > No, we just need a way to pull this up easily. pkg_info -L maybe? > Ok, not bad. To tell you the truth, I've never used the pkg_* utils much, except for installing... When was the last time you REMOVED something you had installed? Usually you have a reason for installing it and the only time you need to mess with it is to upgrade it. Most large software packages have their own dirs in /usr/local/lib/foo. The only things outside that are the binaries, config files, and manual pages. I'm not to eager to move to something like you suggest as its quite similar (as you, or someone else mentioned) to the Solaris /opt/BIGmess scheme. Anyhow, this is very interesting argueing. Maybe you can convince me that there is merit to you scheme that I've yet to see. :) Shall we discuss how the /etc/rc / sysconfig stuff needs to work so packages can add their own config stuff next? Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 08:23:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA10810 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10801 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id SAA23908 for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 18:22:36 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id OAA02086 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:36:52 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id OAA11575; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:36:48 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199601261236.OAA11575@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: imake & /usr/local To: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:36:48 +0200 (EET) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9601261001.AA00680@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> from "David E. O'Brien" at Jan 26, 96 02:01:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk # # If we get to vote on this, I'd perfer X ports to go somewhere into local. # /usr/local/X11R6/* That's my vote. -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 11:47:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA21273 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21263 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA23195 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:46:20 -0800 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199601261946.LAA23195@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: popper To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:46:19 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I don't subscribe to freebsd-ports, so if this is redundant, I apologize. Got a checksum mismatch with ports-current/mail/popper: $ pwd /usr/local/ports/pub/FreeBSD/ports-current/mail/popper $ make >> qpop2.1.4-r3.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/unix/servers/popper/. ... qpop2.1.4-r3.tar.Z: 102021 bytes received in 20.34 seconds, 4.90 K/s. >> Checksum mismatch for qpop2.1.4-r3.tar.Z *** Error code 1 Stop. -Archie _______________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@tribe.com * Tribe Computer Works http://www.tribe.com From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 11:50:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA21564 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21543 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id UAA11958; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:30:19 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by knobel.gun.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA00695; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:12:40 +0100 (MET) From: Andreas Klemm Message-Id: <199601261912.UAA00695@knobel.gun.de> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:12:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Jan 26, 96 04:52:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Inn goes in /usr/local/news. The userland NFS utils and daemons live > with everybody else, and I see no reason why a utility set that provides > much of the same services should have its own dir structure. The difference is, that NFS and other stuff are operating system services. Other packages, like samba and inn, are add-on services. Look at Solaris 2, they did it the same way and I like it. Only the ease of use of the FreeBSD ports section was a reason for me, to have again a _huge_ /usr/local/bin directory with tons of utilities in one place. Otherwise I would have done my own kind of directory structure, as I described earlier. When you discussed the locations of samba, I thought it would be a good occasion to bring in the new idea. -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 12:52:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26072 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (tick.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26033 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA27752; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:48:53 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Glowacki Message-Id: <199601262048.OAA27752@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Andrew V. Stesin" cc: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien), freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: imake & /usr/local In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:36:48 +0200." <199601261236.OAA11575@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:48:31 -0600 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > # > # If we get to vote on this, I'd perfer X ports to go somewhere into local. > # > /usr/local/X11R6/* > > That's my vote. Me too (in fact, that's where I currently have them installed) From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 13:11:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA26807 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26802 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tfvQG-0003wNC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:11 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01046 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:11:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: request for port... Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: <1044.822690665@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would love if we could have a port following this effort: http://www-iss.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de/pcg Poul-Henning From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 14:44:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA03562 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl (nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03523 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:44:16 -0800 (PST) From: eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl Received: from kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (0@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.10]) by nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA05953 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:46:22 +0100 Received: from [] ([149.156.1.240]) by kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA14024 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:43:41 +0100 Message-Id: <199601262243.XAA14024@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:39:19 +0000 Subject: How to install WWW X-Confirm-Reading-To: eistal@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm beginner with UNIX. I've installed FreeBSD Release 2.1.0 on my P6. I'd like to use my machine as the web server. I've read the handbook but I don't know how to do it? I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to install FreeBSD compatible web server. Which one is good on my machine? Thanks in advance. jasiu From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 22:40:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA28573 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sssun.spb.su (root@news.spb.su [193.124.83.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28568 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by sssun.spb.su id AA07680 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Sat, 27 Jan 1996 09:39:52 +0300 To: "David E. O'Brien" , "Andrew V. Stesin" Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199601261236.OAA11575@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <199601261236.OAA11575@office.elvisti.kiev.ua>; from "Andrew V. Stesin" at Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:36:48 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: Organization: RELCOM Corp., St.Petersburg Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 09:39:51 +0300 From: Andrew Timonin Reply-To: tim@sssun.spb.su Subject: Re: imake & /usr/local Lines: 26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199601261236.OAA11575@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Andrew V. Stesin writes: ># ># If we get to vote on this, I'd perfer X ports to go somewhere into local. ># > /usr/local/X11R6/* > > That's my vote. I'd prefer /usr/local/X11/*, as well as stock X11 into /usr/X11/*, not /usr/X11R6. When R7 come out we then shouldn't change this again, and a little less typing :-) >-- > With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. > +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 > "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." > Frank's Management Rule #1. -- Andrew A. Timonin E-mail tim@sssun.spb.su, St.Petersburg phone: office: +7 (812) 1106762 Russia private: +7 (812) 2540779 From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Jan 26 22:41:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA28608 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28594 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 22:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id HAA18231 ; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 07:41:25 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id HAA07339 ; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 07:41:24 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id DAA24074; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 03:07:17 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601270207.DAA24074@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: WARNING: proposed change to samba port To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 03:07:16 +0100 (MET) Cc: andreas@knobel.gun.de, ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at "Jan 26, 96 04:52:24 am" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1586 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL3 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Matthew N. Dodd said: > Shall we discuss how the /etc/rc / sysconfig stuff needs to work > so packages can add their own config stuff next? Just modify them to add scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (cf /etc/sysconfig: #!/bin/sh # # This is sysconfig - a file full of useful variables that you can set # to change the default startup behavior of your system. # # $Id: sysconfig,v 1.31 1996/01/06 20:49:18 jkh Exp $ ######################### Start Of Local Configuration Section ########### # Location of local startup directories. local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" I do not use it because I use /etc/rc.d instead bu the idea remains the same... /etc/init.d: total 3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 188 Sep 25 02:44 README -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 258 Sep 25 02:20 news.sh* -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 314 Nov 17 23:40 ssh.sh* /etc/rc.d: total 0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17 Sep 25 02:44 90news.sh@ -> ../init.d/news.sh lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Sep 25 02:44 91ssh.sh@ -> ../init.d/ssh.sh PS: I know, it sounds like SYSV. So what ? :-) It is more flexible than editing /etc/rc.local and you can say: /etc/init.d/ssh.sh stop ... edit some parameter files... /etc/init.d/ssh.sh start -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Sun Jan 14 20:23:45 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Jan 27 22:54:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA28820 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28815 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA19596; Sat, 27 Jan 96 22:54:00 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601280654.AA19596@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Minicom 1.74 port To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:53:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've placed my Minicom v1.74 port on ftp.FreeBSD.org:/pub/FreeBSD/incoming. The associated files are: minicom-1.74.tar.gz minicom-portball-1.74.README minicom-portball-1.74.tgz It looks like someone beat me to the punch-line. I saw a minicom.tar.gz file in there. My port is a little more upto date. I've been working on it since December and version 1.71. I found several bugs with the original and made some enhancements. The author was working on a new release (took a little while to pin down the release date) and was happy to take the FreeBSD contribution (yea!). >From DESCR: Minicom is a serial communication program. It is a un*x clone of the well-known MS-DOS Telix program. It has ANSI color, dialing directory, dial-a-list, script language, file up/download support, screen capture, scroll-back, etc. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu)