From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Mar 4 19:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25134 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 19:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25127 Mon, 4 Mar 1996 19:39:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199603050339.TAA25127@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB To: freebsd-scsi Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 19:39:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware, freebsd-hackers X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk here is a summary of my experiences with an Archive Anaconda scsi-2 1.35 GB QIC tape drive. many thanks to Stefan Esser who has once again worked miracles with the ncr scsi controller. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ Archive Anaconda 1.35 GB SCSI tape drive (summary) CSC (www.corpsys.com) sells a 1.3 GB QIC SCSI-2 tape drive for $200. its the Archive Anaconda now relabeled as a Connor (the pc board says Archive). The drive has been discontinued. I have not been able to locate a Connor advertisement for one. Spoke to sales and tech support at Connor today (960219). Archive was bought by Connor. Connor was bought by Seagate. The Anaconda has been discontinued. The unit was last shipped about a year ago. The recommended tape is the 3M Magnus DC-9135. Tech support recommends that the SCSI controller be configured for 5 MB/s operation, SYNC disabled, SCSI disconnect=no, and jumper jp6 open. (the jumper information is wrong. jp6 open == SCSI-1, jp6 shorted == SCSI-2) The tech doc is available from Connor's fax-back service: 1-408-456-4903 (?) document 2206 (?) (no fax machine here, i will verify this tomorrow) I bought one 2 weeks ago as an alternative to either 4mm DAT or 8mm Exabyte style drives. The drive did not work "out of the box" with FreeBSD 2.1. with the help of Stefan Esser (se@se@zpr.uni-koeln.de) I am now able to use the drive. The drive is advertised as a SCSI-2 drive. FreeBSD reports the drive as SCSI-1. Installing jumper jp6 causes FreeBSD to report the drive as SCSI-2. When operating as a SCSI-1 device (jp6 open) the drive does not conform to SCSI-1. The drive "locks" the scsi bus during at least some mt operations (eg fsf, rewind, rewoffl). When operating as a SCSI-2 device (jp6 shorted) the drive does not lock the scsi bus during the operations listed above. However to get the ncr working with /sbin/dump, the ncr requires a patch extending the latetime from 10 secs to a larger value. presently i am using 20 minutes. ;( but it works and its fast! it does not lock the bus while the dump is being written to tape. But the drive is fast :) dumping at over 370kB/s. I used "/sbin/dump 0unBbf 1200000 10 /dev/rst0 /dev/sd1f" Okay, now the details: Known: Normal SCSI-2 device (does NOT lock bus on fsf, rewind, rewoffl, or erase) Quasi-SCSI-1 device--locks scsi bus on some mt operations (fsf, rewind, rewoffl, erase, there may be others) The drive does NOT lock the bus during a dump to /dev/nrst0, so you can dump disks on the same scsi bus as the tape drive The unit has front panel eject button. this button does NOT lock the scsi bus. 56kB buffer on drive. (128kB see chip list below) One 8-1/2" x 11" double sided xeroxed page is all the technical documentation that comes with the drive. Uses QIC-1350 tapes aka DC-9135, which may not be easy to find (3 local stores do not stock them ;(( details from mail order below under "Media") Reads QIC-150 No hardware compression 350kB/s sustained tranfer rate. Rate varies with the media rate is the same for SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 operation QIC-150: 25288 tape blocks in 263 seconds (96kB/s) QIC-1350: 25288 tape blocks in 144 seconds (175kB/s) (note: these speeds are low. My root partition only has 25 MB of data on it. the setup time that dump requires skews the results.) QIC-1350: 212215 tape blocks in 583 seconds (364kB/s) QIC-1350: 572707 tape blocks in 1648 seconds (347kB/s) The unit does not have a front panel slider put the heads against the tape, rather the unit pulls the tape deep inside then pushes it forward (to open the gate) and finally slides the tape sideways to engage the heads. Drive is half-height, 5 1/4" wide. The scsi connector (on the rear of the drive) is mounted upside down (compared to my hard drives). (note: the 128kB buffer is probably used as 2-56kB buffers when writing to tape: the drive reads from one and writes to tape while the other is being filled from the scsi bus. when reading from tape, read to one buffer from the tape while writing to the scsi bus from the opther) Possible: May read QIC-525 (i dont have any) May write QIC-150, QIC-120, QIC-525, etc. (i dont have another drive to read the tapes that i create with the Anaconda) Media: Corporate Systems 1-408-734-3475 (same place i got the drive from) Verbatim $24.00 Connor Express 1-800-531-0968 9135 3M $49.00 each 8 in stock Media Source 1-800-241-8857 (andrew) 9135 1 5 10 Verbatim 28.29 26.94 26.94 no stock Sony 29.15 28.10 27.44 21 in stock Exxus 1-800-557-1000 (tory) 9135 3M 34.00 Sony 30.00 Maxell 29.00 Diskette Connection 1-800-654-4058 (randy) 9135 3M 32.10 Verbatim 28.95 dmesg output: when configured as SCSI-2: (ncr1:4:0): "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -003" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ncr1:4:0): Sequential-Access st0(ncr1:4:0): 200ns (5 Mb/sec) offset 8. density code 0x0, drive empty when configured as SCSI-1: (ncr1:4:0): "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -003" type 1 removable SCSI 1 st0(ncr1:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x12, drive empty Technical Specifications: Archive Ananconda Model 2750S Formatted capacity: 1.35 Gigabyte with 9135 tape Track format: 15 or 18 track erpentine [sic] (QIC-1350 standard says 30 tracks) Flux density: 12,500 ftpi [sic] (QIC-1350: 38,750 ftpi) Data density: 10,000 bpi [sic] (QIC-1350: 51,667 bpi) Data transfer rate: 112.5 KB/sec [sic] (testing shows 350 kBps) 10,000 bpi [sic] (QIC-1350: 51,667 bpi) Data transfer rate: 112.5 KB/sec [sic] (testing shows 350 kBps) Recording format: QIC [sic] (QIC-1350: NRZ1) SCSI burst data transfer rate: 1.88 MB/s Data buffer size: 56 KB (see chip list below) Tape speed: 90 ips Speed variations: short term +/- 4% long term +/- 7% Start/Stop time: 300 mSec (maximum) Head configuration: two-track, read-after-write (1 track in each direction) separate full-width erase Recording code: GCR (0,2) Run length limited [sic] Recording format: QIC [sic] (QIC-1350 RLL 1,7 with ECC) (QIC-1350 RLL 1,7 with Reed Solomon ECC) (note: the unit write two tracks at one time and erase's the entire tape in one pass. ) Jumpers: jp1-3: scsi id jp4: reserved (open) jp5: parity check enable (default disabled, open) (note: scsi-2 spec requires parity to be enabled) jp6: reserved (open) (scsi-1 open; scsi-2 shorted) jp7: terminator power enable (default disabled, open) 3 on-board sockets for passive terminators Chip list: 1 NCR 53c90B scsi protocol controller 1 AMD 80c186-16 embedded controller 4 KM44c256CJ-7 70ns, 4bit wide, 256kbit dram 2 KM41c256J-8 80 ns 1bit wide, 256kbit dram Other notes: drive frame is cast metal (pot metal). front panel is plastic. unit has a swinging door, hinged along its top side, that covers the tape slot. when there is a tape in the drive, the door is held up (open), when the tape is removed the door swings down and closes the slot. there is a spring holding the door closed. pc board is on top! there are 3 pieces of pc board material soldered to the pc board. each on is ~6mm high and several cm long. the scsi connector is mount upside down. pin 1 is most distant from the power connector. the cut out in the connector faces downward rather than upward. tapes are inserted with the metal backing plate down and the manufacturers label upward. during reset the heads are stepped down to the limited and then upward several tracks. the unit will over-step the heads, producing a chattering, if heads are already close to maximum depression. the metal backing plate of a QIC cartridge is warm after a backup. not hot, not a problem, but warm. feels good in the winter. ;) the pc board says "Archive copyright 1992" and "anaconda main pcb 81422- rev 001" (the 001 is hand written). also hand written is the number 631. the drive motor is "Lot 9348" 48th week of 1993 System data: ASUS SP3G, AMD486-66DX2, 256 kB L2 cache configured write-back, 16 MB, chipset is Saturn II (82424ZX). 2 SCSI busses: first bus is the on-board NCR53c810 SCSI-II controller and 2 disks: "DEC DSP3053LS X442" (id 0), "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6220" (id 1); second SCSI bus is an NCR SC-200 PCI card controller (also an NCR NCR53c810 SCSI-II) one cdrom changer "NRC MBR-7 110" (id 0), one disk "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6220" (id6), and the "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -003 (id 4)" Required kernel source patches: (the first one is already part of -current, the second accomodates the drive locking the SCSI bus) /src/sys/pci/ncr.c *************** *** 4441,4447 **** OUTB (nc_ctest4, 0x08 ); /* enable master parity checking */ OUTB (nc_stest2, EXT ); /* Extended Sreq/Sack filtering */ OUTB (nc_stest3, TE ); /* TolerANT enable */ ! OUTB (nc_stime0, 0xfb ); /* HTH = 1.6sec STO = 0.1 sec. */ /* ** Reinitialize usrsync. --- 4441,4447 ---- OUTB (nc_ctest4, 0x08 ); /* enable master parity checking */ OUTB (nc_stest2, EXT ); /* Extended Sreq/Sack filtering */ OUTB (nc_stest3, TE ); /* TolerANT enable */ ! OUTB (nc_stime0, 0x0b ); /* HTH = disabled, STO = 0.1 sec. */ /* ** Reinitialize usrsync. *************** *** 4832,4836 **** }; ! if (np->latetime>4) { /* ** Although we tried to wake it up, --- 4832,4836 ---- }; ! if (np->latetime>1200) { /* ** Although we tried to wake it up, From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Mar 5 06:38:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA28612 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA28607 Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:38:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603051438.GAA28607@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: jmb cc: freebsd-scsi, freebsd-hardware, freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Mar 1996 19:39:25 PST." <199603050339.TAA25127@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 06:38:23 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >The recommended tape is the 3M Magnus DC-9135. Tech support >recommends that the SCSI controller be configured for 5 MB/s >operation, SYNC disabled, SCSI disconnect=no, and jumper jp6 open. >(the jumper information is wrong. jp6 open == SCSI-1, jp6 shorted >== SCSI-2) The tech doc is available from Connor's fax-back service: >1-408-456-4903 (?) document 2206 (?) (no fax machine here, i will >verify this tomorrow) I think the tech people are off in space. Async maxes out at ~3MB/s, so it doesn't matter what the controller's sync rate is set to. You also want to have disconnection enabled for the driver or it will hand up the SCSI bus for other devices while its doing things like rewinding. Ughh. >When operating as a SCSI-1 device (jp6 open) the drive does not >conform to SCSI-1. The drive "locks" the scsi bus during at least >some mt operations (eg fsf, rewind, rewoffl). This is because it doesn't disconnect correct? >When operating as a SCSI-2 device (jp6 shorted) the drive does not >lock the scsi bus during the operations listed above. However to >get the ncr working with /sbin/dump, the ncr requires a patch >extending the latetime from 10 secs to a larger value. presently >i am using 20 minutes. ;( but it works and its fast! it does >not lock the bus while the dump is being written to tape. What does the latetime value affect? -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Mar 5 07:02:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA29636 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA29629 Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:02:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199603051502.HAA29629@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:02:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-scsi In-Reply-To: <199603051438.GAA28607@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Mar 5, 96 06:38:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > >The recommended tape is the 3M Magnus DC-9135. Tech support > >recommends that the SCSI controller be configured for 5 MB/s > >operation, SYNC disabled, SCSI disconnect=no, and jumper jp6 open. > >(the jumper information is wrong. jp6 open == SCSI-1, jp6 shorted > >== SCSI-2) The tech doc is available from Connor's fax-back service: > >1-408-456-4903 (?) document 2206 (?) (no fax machine here, i will > >verify this tomorrow) > > I think the tech people are off in space. Async maxes out at ~3MB/s, > so it doesn't matter what the controller's sync rate is set to. You > also want to have disconnection enabled for the driver or it will > hand up the SCSI bus for other devices while its doing things like > rewinding. Ughh. would not surprise me that the tech staff there is lost. their own docs are wrong. > > >When operating as a SCSI-1 device (jp6 open) the drive does not > >conform to SCSI-1. The drive "locks" the scsi bus during at least > >some mt operations (eg fsf, rewind, rewoffl). > > This is because it doesn't disconnect correct? yes, that is my understanding. but ONLY when set to SCSI-1 . when set to SCSI-2 the mt operations are fine. /sbin/dump however behaves differently. if the latetime variable in ncr.c crosses a threshhold the driver (nr.c) assumes that the "ncr scsi engine" has dies and reinitializes the scsi card. then all hell breaks loose and a reboot is needed to get the tape drive and the scsi card to cooperate again. > > >When operating as a SCSI-2 device (jp6 shorted) the drive does not > >lock the scsi bus during the operations listed above. However to > >get the ncr working with /sbin/dump, the ncr requires a patch > >extending the latetime from 10 secs to a larger value. presently > >i am using 20 minutes. ;( but it works and its fast! it does > >not lock the bus while the dump is being written to tape. > > What does the latetime value affect? i am not a scsi expert, plese see the code ~line 4854 in /sys/pci/ncr.c if you are interestted will use the debug capabilites of ncrcojtrol to pursue this. but i waill need help. i aint no scsi expert (by a long short but i am learning more each time i work on this :) From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Mar 5 09:29:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA09924 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09879 Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA00074 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:28:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199603051728.AA00074@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:28:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Justin T. Gibbs" "Re: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB" (Mar 5, 6:38) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB Cc: freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mar 5, 6:38, "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: } Subject: Re: Archive Anconda Tape drive 1.35GB } >When operating as a SCSI-2 device (jp6 shorted) the drive does not } >lock the scsi bus during the operations listed above. However to } >get the ncr working with /sbin/dump, the ncr requires a patch } >extending the latetime from 10 secs to a larger value. presently } >i am using 20 minutes. ;( but it works and its fast! it does } >not lock the bus while the dump is being written to tape. } } What does the latetime value affect? The NCR updates a time variable whenever it passes a certain point in its main program loop. Once per second the driver checks the last update time of this variable, and issues a NCR start, if it hasn't been updated for more than a few seconds (this restart doesn't affect normal operation, it is a NOP if the controller is connected to some device). If the watchdog code finds the time variable has not been updated for "latetime" seconds, it assumes a severe fault and tries to reinitialize the NCR chip and the driver. This leads to much confusion, if the SCSI bus was locked for many minutes because of a tape not disconnecting on rewind ... I might remove this watchdog timer, since it seems to cause more problems than it solves (i.e. I don't know, whether it ever was triggered for its designed purpose) ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 00:58:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA19061 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 00:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18960 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 00:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA06289; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:50:48 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA12665; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:50:47 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id JAA10424; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:48:18 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603060848.JAA10424@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:48:18 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <414.826088711@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 5, 96 09:05:11 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: [Scope widened to freebsd-scsi without Jordan's permission, hope he wouldn't mind. :) ] > Compliments again on the WORM support - this is working really well! Well, it still suffers from a few idiosyncracsies and design flaws. The most annoying one is the blatant use of UNIT ATTENTIONs in these drives, which causes four messages at boot time, and still required me to insert an extra ``scsi -f /dev/rworm0.ctl -c "0 0 0 0 0 0"'' into the script i'm using to burn CD-R's. (This is a harmless TEST UNIT READY command, only to catch the UA condition.) It misses the code for a few common burners as well, the most frequently asked question is about the Yamaha devices. Jordan, could you bug Yamaha to release their SCSI reference manual to us, even though we cannot promise them any sales figures and other $%!@? It misses code for ``disk at once'', and my Plasmon doesn't even seem to support this. I wonder whether it's possible to simulate this by reserving all desired tracks with their projected size, and then writing them sequentially. Our CD-ROM driver misses any functionality to access the different sessions you can burn. It always only accesses the first one, so you gotta waste much space. (Example: a plain FreeBSD SNAP without ports is ~ 150 MB. You could put four of them onto one CD-R.) The CD-ROM driver does also seem to miss the audio part. This might or might not become tricky, in particular given the weird block size of audio tracks (2352 bytes). > It'd still be kind of nice, however, to be able to use it as a CDROM > when the occasion dictated. I know someone who's buying it as a > replacement for his existing CDROM, in fact, and I can bet which > question he's going to ask me first.. :-) You've been in the scsiconf > code - any quick ideas? I notice that a match prevents further > scanning as another type of scsi device, so you can't just add a CD > entry in (I tried :-). The worm driver is very special in this respect. In theory, it should already be able to read the data from the raw device, but i know that it doesn't. Once this is working, somebody needs to create also the `bdevsw' entries -- not a big deal. For a more advanced operation, the driver needs to inherit all the functionality of the CD-ROM driver. It is a very special case, since the CD-Rs can be considered a ``super-class'' of CD-ROMs. We could either clone the CD-ROM driver, or violate the layering and jump directly into the CD-ROM functions. Or we invent something new, where the common part will be extracted into a device-independant CD-ROM driver, with the `cd' and `worm' drivers providing the actual framwork to access its functions. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 02:47:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA09795 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA09789 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA14829; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:46:35 -0800 (PST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Mar 1996 09:48:18 +0100." <199603060848.JAA10424@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 02:46:35 -0800 Message-ID: <14827.826109195@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > [Scope widened to freebsd-scsi without Jordan's permission, hope he > wouldn't mind. :) ] No problem! The more the merrier. > Well, it still suffers from a few idiosyncracsies and design flaws. > The most annoying one is the blatant use of UNIT ATTENTIONs in these > drives, which causes four messages at boot time, and still required me Yes, those are kind of annoying, I agree. Wouldn't it be permissable to simply loop, say, 5 times with a slight delay each time and if the drive is still returning UNIT ATTENTION (reported as "Target Busy", I assume?) simply gobble it and try again, or does the fool thing assert UA continuously until something else happens? > frequently asked question is about the Yamaha devices. Jordan, could > you bug Yamaha to release their SCSI reference manual to us, even > though we cannot promise them any sales figures and other $%!@? I will try. We have a couple of them here (the quad-speed ones) so I can probably say "Hey, we're Walnut Creek CDROM, we have some of your drives, and we NEED the frimpin' tech specs!" :-) > It misses code for ``disk at once'', and my Plasmon doesn't even seem I'm afraid that I don't quite know what is meant here? > For a more advanced operation, the driver needs to inherit all the > functionality of the CD-ROM driver. It is a very special case, since > the CD-Rs can be considered a ``super-class'' of CD-ROMs. We could > either clone the CD-ROM driver, or violate the layering and jump Hmmmm. Julian? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 08:20:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01388 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01381 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyger.inna.net (tom@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by tyger.inna.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02491 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:21:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:21:45 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Arnold To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: 1522 problem. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a strange problem with the 1522 driver in FreeBSD-release. It is to be used with an HP Scanjet 4C. I have purchased XVScan to use it. XVScan used the scanner as a Processor Type device. After making all the proper devices, if I actually make the mistake of trying to USE the scanner, the machines locks and I mean --LOCKS--. Unfortunatly I get VERY few error messages. In fact the ONE time I did get a message I didn't capture it. :-( The scanner and card both work fine under MessyDOS. Suggestions and help Greatly Appreciated! Even posts telling me what mailing list I should have posted to unstead of this one. :-) -Tom Arnold / No relation to Rosanne From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 09:16:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA05689 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05683 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id EAA30849; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 04:13:42 +1100 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 04:13:42 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199603061713.EAA30849@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Well, it still suffers from a few idiosyncracsies and design flaws. >> The most annoying one is the blatant use of UNIT ATTENTIONs in these >> drives, which causes four messages at boot time, and still required me >Yes, those are kind of annoying, I agree. Wouldn't it be permissable Why does the SCSI driver log them? I don't want it to tell me that I've just changed a removable disk. For a zip drive, after a media change, the following messages are logged: sd1(ncr0:5:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 sd1(ncr0:5:0): Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed sd1(ncr0:5:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry Then if the drive is accessed while no media is present: sd1(ncr0:5:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present sd1(ncr0:5:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present (one message for the attempted access to the MBR to determine the slices, and one to attempt to read the disk). Then if the drive is accessed again while no media is present: sd1(ncr0:5:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present and the Debugger("sdopen: no slices") is called. Then after continuing in the debugger, the message for the attempt to read the disk is logged: sd1(ncr0:5:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present Then if the drive is accessed with media present: sd1(ncr0:5:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 sd1(ncr0:5:0): Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed [Debugger("sdopen: no slices") is called] sd1(ncr0:5:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB sd1 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry There would be more messages from the slice code if the disk didn't have a valid DOS partition table on it :-]. >to simply loop, say, 5 times with a slight delay each time and if the >drive is still returning UNIT ATTENTION (reported as "Target Busy", I >assume?) simply gobble it and try again, or does the fool thing assert >UA continuously until something else happens? Zip drives seem to return just one unit attention. It doesn't matter if the new media has been present for a long time. This makes sense. The driver should be able to handle it easily if it occurs in open(). Handling media changes that occur while the device is open is much more difficult. Bruce From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 12:33:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA21748 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vividnet.com (mail.vividnet.com [206.149.144.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21743 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from aquarius.vividnet.com (postmaster@mail.vividnet.com) by mail.vividnet.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA07159 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:31:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: Robin Chen X-Sender: robinche@aquarius.vividnet.com To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Is this hardware or software problem? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've been having trouble backing up with Amanda, and the dmesg shows the following. At the bottom of the list, there's: sd0(ncr0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:9c,0 vnode_pager_input: I/O read error vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 27 failure I've tried re-formating the disk, but still the same error. Prior to this, I had to restore the disk because of a bad file descriptor. Should I return the HD, or is this a software problem, ie. needs patching? Robin Chen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 23 15:58:09 PST 1995 CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31379456 (30644K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 12 on isa ep0: aui/bnc[*BNC*] address 00:a0:24:06:34:3f irq 12 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:3:0): "HP C1533A 9503" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ncr0:3:0): Sequential-Access st0(ncr0:3:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. density code 0x24, variable blocks, write-enabled sd0(ncr0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:9c,0 vnode_pager_input: I/O read error vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 27 failure From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 12:55:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA23339 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalessin.southern.co.nz (kalessin.southern.co.nz [202.37.188.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23334 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (trimble@localhost) by kalessin.southern.co.nz (8.6.11/8.6.6.Beta6) id JAA06651 for freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:55:02 +1300 >Received: from trimble.co.nz (fs1.trimble.co.nz [155.63.248.200]) by baldrick.trimble.co.nz (8.3/8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17676; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:54:15 +1300 Received: from trimble.co.nz (fs1.trimble.co.nz [155.63.248.200]) by baldrick.trimble.co.nz (8.3/8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17676; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:54:15 +1300 Received: from TNZ-FS1/SpoolDir by trimble.co.nz (Mercury 1.21); 7 Mar 96 09:54:40 +1300 Received: from SpoolDir by TNZ-FS1 (Mercury 1.21); 7 Mar 96 09:54:25 +1300 From: "Dave Cowl" Organization: Trimble Navigation New Zealand To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:54:15 +1300 Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <418863A4F4E@trimble.co.nz> Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From Jrodan and Joerg: ) > It misses code for ``disk at once'', and my Plasmon doesn't even seem ) ) I'm afraid that I don't quite know what is meant here? In a standard CD write, the track(s) are written and then afterward the lead in (which contains the TOC) and the lead out are written. This way, the TOC is well known BEFORE the TOC is actually written into the lead in, because the tracks are already written. The problem with this approach is that mastering machines for CD pressing do not like the 'gaps' between the post written lead in and the first track. They read errors and complain. Disc at Once requires that the TOC is formed pre-write. Then the Lead in, tracks and lead out is written in 1 hit. Thus, there is no gaps, errors or anything. For Disc at Once, you need to know a lot more about what you are doing before you start. Also, the machines differ greatly in approach - the Yamaha is apparently quite simple to programme in DAO mode - the HP and Philips drives are pretty nasty, especially if you want to do CD-XA or something. In fact, I gather that the HP firmware (and probably Philips also) is buggy for mixed mode DAO (ok for audio, except L & R get transposed). Anyways, he upshot is that with no gaps, DAO discs can be used for pressing masters. Also they can have any arrangement of tracks, gaps between tracks and index markers. I am keen to see DAO included in the WORM software. On the negative side, my internet connection sucks and I am rusty on coding. My knowledge of SCSI is almost non-existant, and I am currently busy with a potential relocation to the Bay area (6500 miles away). Anyways, with a bit of direction, I am willing to do my share. BTW, is the 4080i a new HP product, or a typo? Later... Cheers! DAve. "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away" From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 14:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA00850 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00825 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA09160; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:22:10 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA21266; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:22:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id XAA12433; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:19:49 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603062219.XAA12433@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:19:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <14827.826109195@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 6, 96 02:46:35 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Yes, those are kind of annoying, I agree. Wouldn't it be permissable > to simply loop, say, 5 times with a slight delay each time and if the > drive is still returning UNIT ATTENTION (reported as "Target Busy", I > assume?) simply gobble it and try again, or does the fool thing assert > UA continuously until something else happens? The UA happens only once. The driver was supposed to catch it, but apparently i've got it wrong. > > frequently asked question is about the Yamaha devices. Jordan, could > > you bug Yamaha to release their SCSI reference manual to us, even > > though we cannot promise them any sales figures and other $%!@? > > I will try. We have a couple of them here (the quad-speed ones) > so I can probably say "Hey, we're Walnut Creek CDROM, we have > some of your drives, and we NEED the frimpin' tech specs!" :-) Yeah, do it! Poul-Henning was already askin'... > > It misses code for ``disk at once'', and my Plasmon doesn't even seem > > I'm afraid that I don't quite know what is meant here? You could write all track of a session at once, without intervening track gaps. Important for audio CDs (to avoid longish pauses between the tracks). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 14:54:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05839 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05833 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA11020; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:50:57 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA21554; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:50:57 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id XAA12819; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:38:46 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603062238.XAA12819@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 1522 problem. To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:38:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: tom@inna.net (Thomas Arnold) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Arnold" at Mar 6, 96 11:21:45 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Thomas Arnold wrote: > I'm having a strange problem with the 1522 driver in FreeBSD-release. > It is to be used with an HP Scanjet 4C. I have purchased XVScan to use it. > XVScan used the scanner as a Processor Type device. > After making all the proper devices, if I actually make the mistake of > trying to USE the scanner, the machines locks and I mean --LOCKS--. Sadly, the aic6360 driver looks very unfinished, and there seems to be nobody around who's going to fix it. I've just been playing with a Scanjet 4C today, and it works fine with the `hpscan' port -- but that's on my AHA2940. There's a card that's shipping with the Scanjet, but it's something different (no Adaptec chip). I'm not going to use it anyway. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 6 14:55:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05865 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05769 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA11025; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:50:59 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA21555; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:50:58 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id XAA12850; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:43:15 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603062243.XAA12850@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:43:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199603061713.EAA30849@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Mar 7, 96 04:13:42 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > >Yes, those are kind of annoying, I agree. Wouldn't it be permissable > > Why does the SCSI driver log them? I don't want it to tell me that > I've just changed a removable disk. Except for the `od' driver, they are just being logged like any other SCSI error message. This makes some sense, so you know that somebody has been turning your harddisk off an on when you're going to mount it again. :-) Have you tried to force your zip drive to the `od' driver? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 01:57:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA23601 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23505 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 01:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA26417; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:51:07 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA28714; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:51:07 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id KAA16379; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:10:47 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603070910.KAA16379@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Is this hardware or software problem? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:10:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: robinche@mail.vividnet.com (Robin Chen) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Robin Chen" at Mar 6, 96 12:32:41 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Robin Chen wrote: > sd0(ncr0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:9c,0 > vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 27 failure > (ncr0:0:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access > sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. > 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors) Uh-oh. An ILLEGAL REQUEST is not supposed to happen on a hard disk. The ASC of 0x9c is in the vendor-specific range, so you gotta bug Quantum for its exact meaning. You could compile the driver with SCSIDEBUG turned on and enable debugging by scsi -f /dev/rsd0.ctl -d and have a closer look at the reported error. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 05:20:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA06903 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA06850 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from urcf@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA03693; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:19:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:19:55 -0500 From: "Rodney C. Forbes" Message-Id: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI woes. Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in the system? I just installed a 730MB SCSI hard drive that I would like to dedicate to FreeBSD. I currently have a 540MB IDE that is being shared by DOS and FreeBSD. I would like the IDE drive to end up dedicated to DOS/WINDOWS. I would like to find a boot manager that would let me boot DOS off the IDE and FreeBSD off the SCSI. I tried OS-BS and the one the comes with FreeBSD, and if they do support this, I must have missed something in the installation. If you can help, I would appreciate it. -- _ /| \'o.O' urcf@fang.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) =(___)= http://fang.sunyit.edu/~urcf/ U A Riverside, California, health ordinance states that two persons may not kiss each other without first wiping their lips with carbolized rosewater. From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 14:53:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA28173 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28103 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA03234; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:06 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199603072259.JAA03234@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Rodney C. Forbes stands accused of saying: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in > the system? Yes. > I just installed a 730MB SCSI hard drive that I would like to > dedicate to FreeBSD. I currently have a 540MB IDE that is being > shared by DOS and FreeBSD. I would like the IDE drive to end up > dedicated to DOS/WINDOWS. I would like to find a boot manager that > would let me boot DOS off the IDE and FreeBSD off the SCSI. I tried > OS-BS and the one the comes with FreeBSD, and if they do support > this, I must have missed something in the installation. If you can > help, I would appreciate it. You don't say what happened when you tried the FBSD bootmanager. Did it list the second disk? If not, do you have a SCSI controller with a BIOS? > \'o.O' urcf@fang.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 16:29:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20102 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20097 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15431; Fri, 8 Mar 96 01:31:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 01:31:43 +0100 Message-Id: <9603080031.AA15431@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: MEDIUM ERROR: is my disk really dead ? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have problems with a disk. I got media errors, and a losed a partition, then a second, then a third... (in about 5 days). So i reformatted the disk and I stressed it (I filled it 100 times in 24hours - this is a 1GB disk) and got 'only' 6 errors: Mar 7 04:12:48 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:9778b asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Mar 7 04:28:35 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:939d6 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Mar 7 04:45:19 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:5e230 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Mar 7 04:45:43 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:6a205 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Mar 7 04:47:50 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:ad0b8 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Mar 7 06:05:49 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:199c70 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault Now, trying reads (dd if=/dev/rsd2c ...), it always stops at the same point: sd2(ncr0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:b4c57 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, retries:4 sd2(ncr0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:b4c57 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, retries:3 sd2(ncr0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:b4c57 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, retries:2 sd2(ncr0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:b4c57 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, retries:1 sd2(ncr0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:b4c57 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, FAILURE Is there anything I can do? Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 17:21:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23114 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23061 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id CAA26165; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id CAA09299; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id BAA18747; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:50 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603080057.BAA18747@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Rodney C. Forbes wrote: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in the system? Give it the ``hd(1,a)/kernel'' argument at the boot prompt. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 18:58:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01496 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01449 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01594 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:43:49 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA23092 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:20:55 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28761 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA28187 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28103 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA03234; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:06 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199603072259.JAA03234@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rodney C. Forbes stands accused of saying: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in > the system? Yes. > I just installed a 730MB SCSI hard drive that I would like to > dedicate to FreeBSD. I currently have a 540MB IDE that is being > shared by DOS and FreeBSD. I would like the IDE drive to end up > dedicated to DOS/WINDOWS. I would like to find a boot manager that > would let me boot DOS off the IDE and FreeBSD off the SCSI. I tried > OS-BS and the one the comes with FreeBSD, and if they do support > this, I must have missed something in the installation. If you can > help, I would appreciate it. You don't say what happened when you tried the FBSD bootmanager. Did it list the second disk? If not, do you have a SCSI controller with a BIOS? > \'o.O' urcf@fang.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Mar 7 19:49:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05882 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05845 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01950 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:40:36 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA28877 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:12:03 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23219 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23095 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23061 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id CAA26165; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id CAA09299; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id BAA18747; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:50 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603080057.BAA18747@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Rodney C. Forbes wrote: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in the system? Give it the ``hd(1,a)/kernel'' argument at the boot prompt. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 03:15:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA00433 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00410 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA23954 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:35:14 -0800 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA08882; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:51:00 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199603081051.FAA08882@hda.com> Subject: Re: MEDIUM ERROR: is my disk really dead ? To: jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr (Jean-Marc Zucconi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:50:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9603080031.AA15431@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> from "Jean-Marc Zucconi" at Mar 8, 96 01:31:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I have problems with a disk. I got media errors, and a losed a > partition, then a second, then a third... (in about 5 days). > So i reformatted the disk and I stressed it (I filled it 100 times in > 24hours - this is a 1GB disk) and got 'only' 6 errors: > Mar 7 04:12:48 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:9778b asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Mar 7 04:28:35 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:939d6 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Mar 7 04:45:19 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:5e230 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Mar 7 04:45:43 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:6a205 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Mar 7 04:47:50 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:ad0b8 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Mar 7 06:05:49 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:199c70 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault > Make sure "AWRE" (automatic write reallocation on error) is on so your drive will map out that sector. You probably want ARRE on also. use the "scsi(8)" mode page editor. Peter -- *** March 8, 1996: Our ISP is having problems. *** *** "hda.com" connectivity is now intermittent to nonexistent *** Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 03:17:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01029 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00954 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA23081 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:22:38 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA04329; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:20:41 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA11977; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:20:41 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id JAA21025; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:17:06 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603080817.JAA21025@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: MEDIUM ERROR: is my disk really dead ? To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:17:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr (Jean-Marc Zucconi) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <9603080031.AA15431@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> from "Jean-Marc Zucconi" at Mar 8, 96 01:31:43 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > > I have problems with a disk. I got media errors, and a losed a > partition, then a second, then a third... (in about 5 days). > So i reformatted the disk and I stressed it (I filled it 100 times in > 24hours - this is a 1GB disk) and got 'only' 6 errors: Have you tried the automatic remapping feature? However, since you've already reformatted (assuming you've got not one of the forgery disks that can't be formatted, e.g. from Quantum), chances are low. Well, you could fight against bad144. :-] -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 03:19:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01606 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01593 Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA22153 ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:18:56 -0800 Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA03562 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:10:23 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA07119 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:43:22 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05933 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA05867 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05845 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01950 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:40:36 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA28877 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:12:03 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23219 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA23095 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23061 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id CAA26165; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id CAA09299; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:20:15 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id BAA18747; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:50 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603080057.BAA18747@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:57:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Rodney C. Forbes wrote: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in the system? Give it the ``hd(1,a)/kernel'' argument at the boot prompt. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 04:29:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA02654 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA02630 Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA21962 ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:07:46 -0800 Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA03325 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:46:57 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA06319 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:36:57 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01535 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01472 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.okbmei.msk.su (ns.okbmei.msk.su [194.190.170.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01449 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kiae.UUCP by ns.okbmei.msk.su with UUCP id AA01594 (5.67c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:43:49 +0300 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by sovcom.kiae.su with SMTP id AA23092 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:20:55 +0300 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28761 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA28187 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28103 Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA03234; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:06 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199603072259.JAA03234@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCSI woes. To: urcf@fang.cs.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:29:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199603071319.IAA03693@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> from "Rodney C. Forbes" at Mar 7, 96 08:19:55 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: KOI8-R X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Rodney C. Forbes stands accused of saying: > Is it possible to boot off a SCSI hard drive when an IDE is also in > the system? Yes. > I just installed a 730MB SCSI hard drive that I would like to > dedicate to FreeBSD. I currently have a 540MB IDE that is being > shared by DOS and FreeBSD. I would like the IDE drive to end up > dedicated to DOS/WINDOWS. I would like to find a boot manager that > would let me boot DOS off the IDE and FreeBSD off the SCSI. I tried > OS-BS and the one the comes with FreeBSD, and if they do support > this, I must have missed something in the installation. If you can > help, I would appreciate it. You don't say what happened when you tried the FBSD bootmanager. Did it list the second disk? If not, do you have a SCSI controller with a BIOS? > \'o.O' urcf@fang.sunyit.edu (Rodney C. Forbes) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 06:47:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA20229 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA20220 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id GAA25712 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:44:51 -0800 Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19113; Fri, 8 Mar 96 15:16:01 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 15:16:01 +0100 Message-Id: <9603081416.AA19113@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: dufault@hda.com Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603081051.FAA08882@hda.com> (message from Peter Dufault on Fri, 8 Mar 1996 05:50:59 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: MEDIUM ERROR: is my disk really dead ? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >>>>> Peter Dufault writes: >> I have problems with a disk. I got media errors, and a losed a >> partition, then a second, then a third... (in about 5 days). >> So i reformatted the disk and I stressed it (I filled it 100 times in >> 24hours - this is a 1GB disk) and got 'only' 6 errors: >> Mar 7 04:12:48 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:9778b asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> Mar 7 04:28:35 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:939d6 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> Mar 7 04:45:19 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:5e230 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> Mar 7 04:45:43 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:6a205 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> Mar 7 04:47:50 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:ad0b8 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> Mar 7 06:05:49 qix /kk: sd2(ncr0:4:0): Deferred Error: MEDIUM ERROR info:199c70 asc:3,0 Peripheral device write fault >> > Make sure "AWRE" (automatic write reallocation on error) is on so your > drive will map out that sector. You probably want ARRE on also. use the > "scsi(8)" mode page editor. I have AWRE and ARRE. It seems that only AWRE worked (the write errors only occured at the beginning of the test) :-( Jean-Marc > Peter > -- > *** March 8, 1996: Our ISP is having problems. *** > *** "hda.com" connectivity is now intermittent to nonexistent *** > Peter Dufault Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation > HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 > dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 10:09:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02899 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02891 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA20151; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:09:09 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:09 CST Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:09 CST Message-Id: Subject: NEC Cd changer To: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:09:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Lars Fredriksen" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, Have you seen any problems with the scsi request to the NEC 7 cd changer timeout? I get messages like this sometimes: cd(0) request timed out received unexpected ANS(0x22) bus reset The above messages are parafrased... The controller is a 1742. The chain looks like this: External: Internal: TERM -> HP-DAT -> NEC changer -> Controller -> HD1 -> HD0 -> TERM If I replace the NEC changer with a Toshiba 3401, there is no problem. Unfortunately when I do that I have to change the cable between the cd and the controller, so just because the Toshiba CD-ROM work doesn't mean that there is a problem with the NEC. It could be a cable problem, but that would not say much about the quality of the cable since the one used with the NEC is brand new. I did try removing the HP-DAT and using the internal terminator on the NEC, but that didn't change anything, so it doesn't appear to be a terminator problem. I had to take out HD1 (Toshiba 538), because it and the NEC did not get along at ALL. The BIOS would report that the HD1 had an internal error, or if it did manage to probe it right, you could not read sector 0 from it. So either the NEC doesn't adhere to the SCSI standard really well, or I have a bad cable between the NEC and the controller. Anyone seen anything like this? I hate to have to go out and spend another $50 on a SCSI-2 to SCSI-2(connector wise) cable, but that might be what I have to do. Lars Lars -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Fredriksen fredriks@mcs.com (home) lars@fredriks.pr.mcs.net (home-home) From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 12:51:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11724 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.zynet.com (mail.zynet.com [205.219.116.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11719 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelair.zynet.com (thelair.zynet.com [205.219.116.2]) by mail.zynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA22036 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:51:31 -0700 From: Danny Dulai Received: (from nirva@localhost) by thelair.zynet.com (8.6.11) id NAA30111 for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:51:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199603082051.NAA30111@thelair.zynet.com> Subject: 7 disc changer To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:51:14 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 2.1.0 to see all of my Nakamichi 7 disc changer. The scsi card is a Buslogic 946C. It never scans or finds anything past the first disc. I tried applying a patch that i saw in this list: > if(cd->dkunit) { to > if(cd->dkunit >= 0) { in sys/scsi/cd.c but had no luck with it. Is there something that I'm just totally spacing out? Has anyone gotten all 7 discs to show up? --Nirva PS. Under Linux and NT, all 7 discs are found. From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 13:19:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13754 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13749 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) id NAA07958; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:18:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603082118.NAA07958@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: 7 disc changer To: nirva@mail.zynet.com (Danny Dulai) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: "JULIAN Elischer" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603082051.NAA30111@thelair.zynet.com> from "Danny Dulai" at Mar 8, 96 01:51:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 2.1.0 to see all of my > Nakamichi 7 disc changer. The scsi card is a Buslogic 946C. > It never scans or finds anything past the first disc. I > tried applying a patch that i saw in this list: > > > if(cd->dkunit) { > to > > if(cd->dkunit >= 0) { > > in sys/scsi/cd.c > > but had no luck with it. Is there something that I'm just > totally spacing out? Has anyone gotten all 7 discs to > show up? you need to edit the table in /sys/scsi/scsiconf.c to add an entry for that device to tell it to check for more devices.. use the pioneed 600 unit as a sample.. (there are two ocurrances... duplicate both..) > > --Nirva > > PS. Under Linux and NT, all 7 discs are found. > From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 15:16:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20616 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20575 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from cabal.io.org (cabal.io.org [198.133.36.103]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA02219 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:25:58 -0800 Received: (from taob@localhost) by cabal.io.org (8.7.4/8.7.4) id RAA19075; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 17:24:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 17:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Seagate Medallist 1GB (ST51080N) AWRE/ARRE? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I installed a replacement ST51080N drive today (the previous one had been giving all sorts of medium errors and command failures). Like the first drive, AWRE and ARRE were disabled on the replacement drive. Does anyone know if the Seagate Medallist SCSI drives actually support this feature? -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Mar 8 15:16:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20824 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20753 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA01775 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:04:13 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA00435; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:02:05 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA19519; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 23:02:05 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id WAA23327; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:48:48 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603082148.WAA23327@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 7 disc changer To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:48:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: nirva@mail.zynet.com (Danny Dulai) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199603082051.NAA30111@thelair.zynet.com> from "Danny Dulai" at Mar 8, 96 01:51:14 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Danny Dulai wrote: > I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 2.1.0 to see all of my > Nakamichi 7 disc changer. The scsi card is a Buslogic 946C. > It never scans or finds anything past the first disc. I You also need to add it to the ``known devices'' section in /sys/scsi/scsiconf.c, and provide the ``more LUNs'' flag. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Mar 9 06:23:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA26638 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 06:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26627 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 06:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id PAA22332; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:23:14 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id PAA27442; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:23:13 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.4/8.6.9) id PAA01193; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:08:28 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199603091408.PAA01193@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Seagate Medallist 1GB (ST51080N) AWRE/ARRE? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:08:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: taob@io.org (Brian Tao) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Mar 9, 96 05:24:30 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As Brian Tao wrote: > I installed a replacement ST51080N drive today (the previous one > had been giving all sorts of medium errors and command failures). > Like the first drive, AWRE and ARRE were disabled on the replacement > drive. Does anyone know if the Seagate Medallist SCSI drives actually > support this feature? I haven't seen any Seagate that wouldn't support it. Almost no disk has turned it on by default, instead it seems that the intention is that the driver should normally be alerted, so that it could log the failure somewhere for later reference, and finally ask the drive to explicitly (as opposed to automagically) remap the bad block. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Mar 9 06:51:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA29504 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 06:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rich.isdn.bcm.tmc.edu (root@RICH.ISDN.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.250.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA29497 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 06:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rich@localhost) by rich.isdn.bcm.tmc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00343; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 08:51:26 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 08:51:26 -0600 Message-Id: <199603091451.IAA00343@rich.isdn.bcm.tmc.edu> From: Rich Murphey To: nirva@mail.zynet.com CC: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199603082051.NAA30111@thelair.zynet.com> (message from Danny Dulai on Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:51:14 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: 7 disc changer Reply-to: rich@lamprey.utmb.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk |From: Danny Dulai |Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:51:14 -0700 (MST) | |I am having trouble getting FreeBSD 2.1.0 to see all of my |Nakamichi 7 disc changer. The scsi card is a Buslogic 946C. |It never scans or finds anything past the first disc. I |tried applying a patch that i saw in this list: | | > if(cd->dkunit) { | to | > if(cd->dkunit >= 0) { | | in sys/scsi/cd.c | |but had no luck with it. Is there something that I'm just |totally spacing out? Has anyone gotten all 7 discs to |show up? You also need a patch that adds MBR7 to the 'known device' list as a unit with devices at more than one logical unit. Rich diff -rub /sys/scsi/scsiconf.c ./scsiconf.c --- /sys/scsi/scsiconf.c Mon Oct 9 21:49:13 1995 +++ ./scsiconf.c Wed Mar 6 17:48:28 1996 @@ -276,6 +276,10 @@ "cd", SC_MORE_LUS }, { + T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "NRC", "MBR-7", "*", + "cd", SC_MORE_LUS + }, + { T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "CHINON", "CD-ROM CDS-535","*", "cd", SC_ONE_LU }, @@ -331,6 +335,10 @@ }, { T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "PIONEER", "CD-ROM DRM-602X" + ,"any", "cd", SC_MORE_LUS + }, + { + T_READONLY, T_REMOV, "NRC", "MBR-7" ,"any", "cd", SC_MORE_LUS }, { From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Mar 9 11:56:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA19503 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss.math.purdue.edu (gauss.math.purdue.edu [128.210.21.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19498 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 11:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hopf.math.purdue.edu (uucp@hopf.math.purdue.edu [128.210.3.18]) by gauss.math.purdue.edu (8.7.4/Purdue_Math) with ESMTP id OAA20210; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hopf.math.purdue.edu (8.7.1/8.6.11) with UUCP id OAA05406; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hopf2.math.purdue.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hopf2.math.purdue.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA04566; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:55:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199603091955.OAA04566@hopf2.math.purdue.edu> To: "Lars Fredriksen" cc: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu Reply-To: wilker@MATH.Purdue.EDU Subject: Re: NEC Cd changer In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Mar 1996 12:09:07 CST." Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 14:55:44 -0500 From: "Clarence Wilkerson, " Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I haven't used it that much under FreeBSD. It's been the only SCSI device when I do. I have had a few timeouts with other operating systems. It takes about 7 seconds to switch from one disk to another. Clarence