From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 18:00:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11777 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 18:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11687 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA28051 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:59:47 +0800 (WST) X-Authentication-Warning: haywire.DIALix.COM: news set sender to usenet-request@haywire.dialix.com using -f Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: 25 Mar 96 01:56:06 GMT From: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: , Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.6.12 -> 8.7.5 Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk tom@uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) writes: >On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Hi... >> >> Just wondering if there is any reason why Sendmail 8.7.5 hasn't >> been migrated/commited to the -stable source tree? If there is none, > 8.7.x is still a moving target. The time between .3, .4, and .5 releases >has been quite short. I would recommend the 8.6.13 release for -stable, >and wait and see how long it takes before 8.7.6 is available. Sendmail 8.7.5 was a stopgap release to fix a single one-line bug. Eric Allman is currently working on sendmail-8.8, and there has even been an pre-alpha test of it. There's not going to be any more 8.7.x releases unless there are security holes in it. And most likely, the same hole will apply to 8.6.X as well, so there's little to be gained by staying back. >Tom Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 05:29:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA23667 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23662 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA00269 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:29:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:29:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199603251329.HAA00269@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: 2.1R to stable supping assistance Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We installed 2.1-Release (Developer package) from the Walnut Creek CD-ROM. I was trying to upgrade from that to stable but have the following questions.... I did a sup -v stable-supfile. All appeared to go well (that sure took a long time time to run though ). I boot to single user mode (-s at the boot prompt) and then I cd /usr/src. When I do a make world I get a string of messages about '... missing: ./share/examples/cvs/examples (not created: read-only file system). It appears the make world is trying to run on a read-only filesystem. What do I do to fix this? Next, is anything required after the make world? Do I need to make any manual changes to files in /etc or something? Thanks in advance... Jay West From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 06:32:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA28629 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28597 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from petzi@localhost) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA02270; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:32:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:32:14 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Beckmann To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot make kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I cannot make a kernel from stable sources, suped yesterday. This is the error message: cc -c -O -pipe -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI586_CPU -DPROBE_VERBOSE -DFDSEEKWAIT=32 -DMAXCONS=12 -DHARDFONTS -DFAT_CURSOR -DXSERVER -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DAUTO_EOI_1 -DNSWAPDEV=4 -DMFS_ROOT=10 -DUMAPFS -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DNFS -DFFS -DGATEWAY -DINET -DUCONSOLE -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUSER_LDT -DCOMPAT_43 -DOPEN_MAX=128 -DCHILD_MAX=128 -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -DMAXUSERS=20 param.c param.c:82: `TIMEZONE' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_minuteswest' is not constant param.c:82: `DST' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_dsttime' is not constant *** Error code 1 Could someone please fix this ? I need a new kernel quite urgently. Michael From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 07:48:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA04516 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04508 Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from owensc@localhost) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA02940; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:43:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Owens To: Stefan Esser cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable and NCR problems? In-Reply-To: <199603222014.AA02130@Sisyphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > That's the infamous handshake timeout ... > This feature seems to do more harm than good, > and I'll apply the following patch to -stable > (it has been in current for some time already): I'm giving the patch a try. >From time to time I also see the following. Is it related to the above problem? Mar 25 07:53:32 dingo /kernel: sd0(ncr0:0:0): M_DISCONNECT received, but datapointer not saved: Mar 25 07:53:32 dingo /kernel: data=2b9d78 save=2b9d78 goal=2b9e8c. Thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 08:52:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA09173 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto-gw.plutotech.com [199.45.131.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09160 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from durian@localhost) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) id JAA24196 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:51:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:51:57 -0700 (MST) From: Mike Durian Message-Id: <199603251651.JAA24196@pluto.plutotech.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stable (as of yesterday) won't boot Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently switched from -current to -stable to avoid cutting edge problems. I didn't realize how tricky backing up would be, with the shared library versions, but I finally got "make world" to finish successfully and built a new kernel. Unfortunately, it won't boot. It hangs right after the npx probe and before the sio probe. I think I remember encountering this problem in -current once. Though I haven't traced the hang down in -stable, it occurred in a call to spl0 when probing the ISA bus in -current. The problem in -current was fixed in a day or so. Does anyone have an ideas? Sorry if I'm a bit vague on the details, but my system is in a state of flux as I try to bring it back to -current level so it'll boot and run. mike durian@plutotech.com From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 09:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA12347 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12324 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <30768-2140>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:15:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:15:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Jay L. West" cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1R to stable supping assistance In-Reply-To: <199603251329.HAA00269@bsd.tseinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Jay L. West wrote: > We installed 2.1-Release (Developer package) from the Walnut Creek CD-ROM. I > was trying to upgrade from that to stable but have the following questions.... > > I did a sup -v stable-supfile. All appeared to go well (that sure took a > long time time to run though ). > > I boot to single user mode (-s at the boot prompt) and then I cd /usr/src. > When I do a make world I get a string of messages about '... missing: > ./share/examples/cvs/examples (not created: read-only file system). It > appears the make world is trying to run on a read-only filesystem. What do I > do to fix this? When you boot single user, all filesystems are mounted read-only. Solution: don't boot single user, because make world doesn't require it. > Next, is anything required after the make world? Do I need to make any > manual changes to files in /etc or something? "make install" Not really. The 2.1 /etc/ set should suffice. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:57:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA24557 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24541 Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:57:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603251857.KAA24541@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Beckmann cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot make kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:32:14 +0100." Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:57:50 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hello, > >I cannot make a kernel from stable sources, suped yesterday. This is the >error message: > >cc -c -O -pipe -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit >-nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI586_CPU >-DPROBE_VERBOSE -DFDSEEKWAIT=32 -DMAXCONS=12 -DHARDFONTS -DFAT_CURSOR >-DXSERVER -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DAUTO_EOI_1 -DNSWAPDEV=4 -DMFS_ROOT=10 >-DUMAPFS -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DNFS -DFFS -DGATEWAY -DINET -DUCONSOLE >-DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUSER_LDT -DCOMPAT_43 -DOPEN_MAX=128 >-DCHILD_MAX=128 -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 >-DMAXUSERS=20 >param.c >param.c:82: `TIMEZONE' undeclared here (not in a function) >param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_minuteswest' is not constant >param.c:82: `DST' undeclared here (not in a function) >param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_dsttime' is not constant >*** Error code 1 > > >Could someone please fix this ? I need a new kernel quite urgently. > >Michael You are using a -current config with a -stable kernel source tree. Make sure you config sources are in sync with your kernel build tree, rebuild config, and try again. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 13:24:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA06100 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05972 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id QAA00557; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:23:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:23:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stable not very stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Just had another system freeze up, after a shocking 5+ days uptime. That, I think, is a record so far for this kernel :( FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #4: Sat Mar 16 17:16:06 EST 1996 Essentially, the system does a bunch of disk thrashing (I believe its thrashing while it unbatches news, but am not 100% certain that that is what it is doing), then it grinds to a complete halt. I can change VT's, but that is about it. The system consists of: FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #4: Sat Mar 16 17:16:06 EST 1996 scrappy@ki.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/kinet CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping=0 Features=0x3 real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14704640 (14360K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 12 on pci0:11 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 243F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:1:0): "QUANTUM LPS340S 020B" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ncr0:1:0): Direct-Access sd1(ncr0:1:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 327MB (670506 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:2:0): "QUANTUM LP240S GM240S01X 4.6" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ncr0:2:0): Direct-Access sd2(ncr0:2:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 234MB (479350 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:3:0): "CONNER CFA540S 13B0" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(ncr0:3:0): Direct-Access sd3(ncr0:3:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 515MB (1056708 512 byte sectors) vga0 rev 0 on pci0:15 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:86:44:79, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) vt0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard vt0: generic, 80 col, color, 8 scr, mf2-kbd, [R3.20-b24] sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in aha0 not found at 0x330 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface And within 8min of booting up, is using over 20Meg of SWAP: > uptime; pstat -s 4:16PM up 8 mins, 5 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.15, 0.08 Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/sd0b 102400 5120 97216 5% Interleaved /dev/sd1b 32768 5116 27588 16% Interleaved /dev/sd2b 32768 5120 27584 16% Interleaved /dev/sd3b 32768 5104 27600 16% Interleaved Total 200448 20460 179988 10% The NCR SCSI controller I'm using in this machine is the ASUS SC-200 NCR SCSI controller, and the SCSI drives are all internal currently. I know there have been others that are reporting the same problem, so it isn't limited to my machine alone :( Now, CTL-ALT-ESC does get me down to DDB, and I can do a trace from there, so don't know if that will help any when it does it. If so, please let me know and I'll grab as much info out of that next time as possible. I'm really not using anything that can be construed as "odd", I don't think. Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 18:23:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29123 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29118 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA29660; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:21:37 -0800 (PST) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable not very stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:23:42 EST." Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:21:37 -0800 Message-ID: <29658.827806897@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Essentially, the system does a bunch of disk thrashing (I believe > its thrashing while it unbatches news, but am not 100% certain that that is > what it is doing), then it grinds to a complete halt. > > I can change VT's, but that is about it. FWIW, that failure mode has been reported by others. Any chance of swapping this motherboard for something other than a DX4, just to narrow this a little? The failures seem to happen about 500% more often with the DX4 parts, though I'm not sure why. Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 19:43:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA06954 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06943 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.6.12/BSD4.4) id OAA02953; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:36:45 +1100 From: michael butler Message-Id: <199603260336.OAA02953@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: Stable not very stable To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:36:45 +1100 (EST) Cc: scrappy@ki.net, stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <29658.827806897@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 25, 96 06:21:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Essentially, the system does a bunch of disk thrashing (I believe > > its thrashing while it unbatches news, but am not 100% certain that that > > is what it is doing), then it grinds to a complete halt. > > I can change VT's, but that is about it. > FWIW, that failure mode has been reported by others. Any chance of > swapping this motherboard for something other than a DX4, just to narrow > this a little? The failures seem to happen about 500% more often with the > DX4 parts, though I'm not sure why. Now that the EISA/VESA stuff is fixed in the ahc driver, I'm using -stable on a write-through L1 cache (i.e. non-enhanced) AMD DX4/100 with an Adaptec 2842 and 64 meg of RAM with no trouble at all since I applied two (and only two) patches .. i) The cd9660_readdir() patch posted by Bruce Evans on March 8th and .. ii) The ufs_vnops() patch (aka "free vnode isn't" patch) posted by David Greenman on the same day. I realise that at least one of these was designed to be against -current but they also happen to apply cleanly to -stable. With ~100k articles a day from the limited newsfeed I receive for the last 10 days, I think that counts as "working" :-) The motherboard is a Chinese "no-name" flavour. The kernel's compiled with AHC_TAGENABLE and QUEUE_FULL_SUPPORTED, NFS_ASYNC, NMBCLUSTERS=1024, CHILD_MAX=256, and OPEN_MAX=256 and runs with the news spool, overview and active file-systems mounted "async". I suspect the problem is either cache/motherboard related or disk driver related (since the complaint is against an NCR-based system). The CPU itself, in the right motherboard, works great. Occasionally, I've added Bruce's vfs_lookup/lstat patch (Nov 11th, '95) to see if it makes disk access any faster .. it appears to do so, but I haven't tested it quantitatively (not enough symlinks now that I have new drives), michael From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 02:28:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA25562 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA25512 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with ESMTP id MAA19334 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:30:20 +0200 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id MAA06968 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:04:12 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id LAA23578 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:04:45 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id LAA07980; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:04:42 +0200 Received: from spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.35]) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id AAA20131 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:59:35 +0200 Received: from sivka.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with UUCP id AAA02491 for stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:54:53 +0200 Received: from psiint.com (vv.psiint.com [204.189.53.1]) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with ESMTP id AAA07306 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:49:46 +0200 Received: by psiint.com (8.6.12/4.03) id OAA51741; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:49:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:49:49 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Walton To: "Andrew V. Stesin" cc: hardware@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange lockup problem In-Reply-To: <199603212108.XAA03313@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Andrew V. Stesin wrote: > [... kbd lockup when switching consoles ...] > > # Any idea what the underlying problem is, and what the cure might be? > > Strange hardware. I remember the rumours this has something > to do with updating the state of kbd "status" LED indicators, > and some brand of kbd controller chips on the MB which has > problems with this. Another source of strange problems > often is hidden in a slightly misconfigured BIOS. > > Probably the author of the driver can tell you more detais, > I'm sending the copy to him. > > # > Sometimes re-plugging of kbd jack cures it (dangerous!) > # > or a command kbdcontrol -r fast < /dev/ttyv0 (issued > # > after coming into the box via telnet). For the sake of completeness, here's a brief recap of the problem: The first symptom appeared immediately after a fresh install of 2.1R, with GENERIC kernel. Switching between vtys would often lock up the keyboard. "kbdcontrol -r normal" reactivates the keyboard, so I set up cron to run that once per minute. The keyboard still locks, but for no more than a minute at a time. I compiled a new kernel, containing psm0, and rebooted. Probing psm0 locks the keyboard, but when cron hits a minute after bootup (see above), that is cleared up. Mouse and keyboard work properly in X. While in X, the keyboard occasionally locks up. Not as repeatably as when switching vtys, but with any key. I've seen it happen while using cursor keys, as well as with other keys. When the keyboard locks up, the mouse freezes as well. A minute later, cron (kbdcontrol) reactivates both mouse and keyboard. (The annoying part of all this is that we've never had a problem with FreeBSD before on any system. And then this happens when we set up a system to convince a client to go with FreeBSD instead of Interactive Unix, which is the worst excuse for a Unix I've ever seen.) > Sorry, David, I have no experience with bus mice and their > possible interaction with kbd controller, still no ideas. > I think that the _exact_ specs of your motherboard > (manufacturer, model name, chipset, output of dmesg(8) after > booting with '-v' switch to the loader) may give some > helpful hints. It's a Dell OptiPlex GXMT 5166 I'd love to give the chip number for the keyboard controller, but I have no idea which chip that is. dmesg output follows: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Mar 20 10:19:39 PST 1996 root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/PSI CPU: 166-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14721024 (14376K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0: disabled, not probed. ed1: disabled, not probed. sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1: disabled, not probed. lpt2: disabled, not probed. mse0: disabled, not probed. psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1039MB (2128896 sectors), 2112 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis wcd0: 1033Kb/sec, 256Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked wdc1: disabled, not probed. bt0: disabled, not probed. uha0: disabled, not probed. ahc1: disabled, not probed. ahb0: disabled, not probed. aha0: disabled, not probed. aic0: disabled, not probed. nca0: disabled, not probed. nca1: disabled, not probed. sea0: disabled, not probed. wt0: disabled, not probed. mcd0: disabled, not probed. mcd1: disabled, not probed. matcdc0: disabled, not probed. scd0: disabled, not probed. ie0: disabled, not probed. ep0: disabled, not probed. ix0: disabled, not probed. le0: disabled, not probed. lnc0: disabled, not probed. lnc1: disabled, not probed. ze0: disabled, not probed. zp0: disabled, not probed. npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000), mode2res=0xff (0x0e) pcibus_setup(2): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=122d8086) Probing for devices on the PCI bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 vga0 rev 83 int a irq 9 on pci0:16 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=f8000000 size=4000000. pci0: uses 67108864 bytes of memory from f8000000 upto fbffffff. BIOS Geometries: 0:020e3f3f 0..526=527 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 1:01300311 0..304=305 cylinders, 0..3=4 heads, 1..17=17 sectors 0 accounted for wd0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end = 2128895, size 2128833 : OK ========================================================================== David Walton Unix Programmer PSI INTERNATIONAL, Inc. email: dwalton@psiint.com 190 South Orchard #C200 Fax :(707)451-6484 Vacaville, CA 95688 Phone:(707)451-3503 ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 03:18:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA27649 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 03:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA27635 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 03:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from petzi@localhost) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA04344; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:17:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:17:22 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Beckmann To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Still can't make kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have suped the -stable sources from freefall again last night, and have not succeeded to build a kernel. However, it's a different error this time: loading kernel autoconf.o: Undefined symbol `_mfs_initminiroot' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 What is this ? Has anyone recently successfully built a kernel from -stable sources ? Thanks, Michael From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 05:45:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA05301 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 05:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA05295 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 05:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from owensc@localhost) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA19517; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:43:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:43:24 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Owens To: Michael Beckmann cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Still can't make kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Michael Beckmann wrote: > Hello, > > I have suped the -stable sources from freefall again last night, and have > not succeeded to build a kernel. However, it's a different error this time: > > loading kernel > autoconf.o: Undefined symbol `_mfs_initminiroot' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > What is this ? > > Has anyone recently successfully built a kernel from > -stable sources ? > I have two machines running (well, from what I can tell) on a kernal compiled from -stable supped on March 16th. I also did a 'make world' without much trouble from sources of the same date. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 06:04:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06439 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06433 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA00234 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:05:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:05:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199603261405.IAA00234@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: help! Make world fails on cvsbug Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1-RELEASE to stable. I did a sup -v stable-supfile and then a make world. The make world fails about 3 minutes into the process. The last lines on the screen are: ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug cd: can't cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug I checked and the directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug does not exist. Where did I go wrong? Thanks in advance! Jay West From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 06:07:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06518 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06501 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.6.12/BSD4.4) id BAA26947; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:03:39 +1100 From: michael butler Message-Id: <199603261403.BAA26947@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: Still can't make kernel To: petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:03:38 +1100 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Beckmann" at Mar 26, 96 12:17:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Beckmann writes: > I have suped the -stable sources from freefall again last night, and have > not succeeded to build a kernel. However, it's a different error this time: > loading kernel > autoconf.o: Undefined symbol `_mfs_initminiroot' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > What is this ? misconfiguration on your part ? > Has anyone recently successfully built a kernel from > -stable sources ? Yes .. the 'config' utility used to build the system is different. Some significant structural changes were made to stable. You *must* do the following before attempting to replace a -release kernel with a -stable one .. cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config make cleandir obj depend all install cd /sys/i386/config config YOURCONFIG (or 'GENERIC') cd /sys/compile/YOURCONFIG make depend all Also note that the database management for kernel symbols has changed .. when booting your shiny new kernel, things like 'top', 'ps', etc. will all be confused. The safest course is to do a 'make world' in /usr/src to get the updated libkvm into all the right utilities .. some of which are statically linked, michael From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 07:31:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA13565 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA13512 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from petzi@localhost) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA08743; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:28:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:28:34 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Beckmann To: michael butler cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Still can't make kernel -> solved In-Reply-To: <199603261403.BAA26947@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yes .. the 'config' utility used to build the system is different. Some > significant structural changes were made to stable. You *must* do the > following before attempting to replace a -release kernel with a > -stable one .. > > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config > make cleandir obj depend all install > cd /sys/i386/config > config YOURCONFIG (or 'GENERIC') > cd /sys/compile/YOURCONFIG > make depend all I did that; the same error still occurred. > Also note that the database management for kernel symbols has changed .. > when booting your shiny new kernel, things like 'top', 'ps', etc. will all > be confused. The safest course is to do a 'make world' in /usr/src to get > the updated libkvm into all the right utilities .. some of which are > statically linked, I had made world from -stable sources. But after that, I wasn't able to make a kernel. So I'm running a 2.1-release kernel with -stable binaries. I do have the problems that you decribe (ps, top, w not working). However, I have just successfully built a GENERIC kernel. Someone pointed out that my trouble might be caused by my config file, which is still from 2.1 release. How could I have known that ? So I must build a new config file now. Thanks everybody ! Michael From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 08:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26964 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26938 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id LAA23797; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:49:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:49:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable not very stable In-Reply-To: <29658.827806897@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > FWIW, that failure mode has been reported by others. Any chance of > swapping this motherboard for something other than a DX4, just to > narrow this a little? The failures seem to happen about 500% more > often with the DX4 parts, though I'm not sure why. > Wish I could, but this is my main server, and the only one that is PCI compliant (therefore, the only one my NCR SCSI controller will work in) And right now, with my -current machine being unable to stay running for much more then 24hrs before it panics at ed_start(), my max uptime of 5days is pretty much a record :( Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 09:23:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00475 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00449 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00513 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:23:38 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:23:38 -0600 Message-Id: <199603261723.LAA00513@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: help! Make world fails on cvsbug Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1-RELEASE to stable. I did a sup -v stable-supfile and then a make world. The make world fails about 3 minutes into the process. The last lines on the screen are: ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug cd: can't cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug I checked and the directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug does not exist. Where did I go wrong? Thanks in advance! Jay West From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 09:25:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00712 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00698 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06813; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:23:15 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603261723.JAA06813@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Still can't make kernel To: owensc@enc.edu (Charles Owens) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) Cc: petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Charles Owens at "Mar 26, 96 08:43:24 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Michael Beckmann wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have suped the -stable sources from freefall again last night, and have > > not succeeded to build a kernel. However, it's a different error this time: > > > > loading kernel > > autoconf.o: Undefined symbol `_mfs_initminiroot' referenced from text segment > > *** Error code 1 > > > > What is this ? > > > > Has anyone recently successfully built a kernel from > > -stable sources ? > > Read the FAQ, you have an out of data or wrong version of config... cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config; make cleandir && make obj depend && make all install cd /usr/src/sys/i386/config config GENERIC cd /sys/i386/compile/GENERIC make depend && make all > > I have two machines running (well, from what I can tell) on a kernal > compiled from -stable supped on March 16th. > > I also did a 'make world' without much trouble from sources of the same date. > > --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu > "I read somewhere to learn is to > Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that > Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 09:26:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00865 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00848 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06822; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:26:26 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603261726.JAA06822@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: help! Make world fails on cvsbug To: jlwest@tseinc.com (Jay L. West) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:26:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603261405.IAA00234@bsd.tseinc.com> from "Jay L. West" at "Mar 26, 96 08:05:13 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1-RELEASE to stable. I did a sup -v stable-supfile > and then a make world. > > The make world fails about 3 minutes into the process. The last lines on the > screen are: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug > > I checked and the directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug does not exist. > Where did I go wrong? Something went wrong with your sup, you should have that directory: SkyRsh# cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug SkyRsh# pwd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug SkyRsh# ls CVS Makefile cvsbug.8 cvsbug.sh SkyRsh# run sup -v stable-supfile again and see if it picks up those files.... -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 11:14:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08894 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08889 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id OAA26587; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:13:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:13:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: michael butler cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Stable not very stable In-Reply-To: <199603260336.OAA02953@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, michael butler wrote: > With ~100k articles a day from the limited newsfeed I receive for the last > 10 days, I think that counts as "working" :-) The motherboard is a Chinese > "no-name" flavour. The kernel's compiled with AHC_TAGENABLE and > QUEUE_FULL_SUPPORTED, NFS_ASYNC, NMBCLUSTERS=1024, CHILD_MAX=256, and > OPEN_MAX=256 and runs with the news spool, overview and active file-systems > mounted "async". > Not sure, but do any of these apply to the NCR SCSI controller? Or better yet, will any of them make any difference to the NCR SCSI controller? I have {CHILD/OPEN}_MAX set to 128 right now, NMBCLUSTERS set to default, but neither of those, I would think, would affect the SCSI controller itself. NFS_ASYNC? Again, I wouldn't think so...but ya never know. AHC_TAGENABLE sounds like an adaptec'ism...? QUEUE_FULL_SUPPORTED?? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 11:39:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10717 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10711 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from owensc@localhost) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02000; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:37:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:37:46 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Owens To: "Jay L. West" cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help! Make world fails on cvsbug In-Reply-To: <199603261723.LAA00513@bsd.tseinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Jay L. West wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1-RELEASE to stable. I did a sup -v stable-supfile > and then a make world. > > The make world fails about 3 minutes into the process. The last lines on the > screen are: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug > > I checked and the directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvsbug does not exist. > Where did I go wrong? Did you do a "make hierarchy" before you did the "make world" ? --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 08:58:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08646 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [142.77.249.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08637 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id LAA00564; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:24:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:24:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: PR Submitted for vm_object_deallocate() panic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I just submitted a bug report for a vm_object_deallocate() panic that just occurred on my machine, but I'm curious if anyone else is having problems with getting a core dump under -stable? I'm using DDB to allow me to get a trace of the crash before it reboots, and after typing panic at the ddb> prompt, it hangs while trying to dump: dumping to dev 401, offset 172032 dump 16 <-- hangs right here indefinitely The result is I get no core dump, and can't get any better debugging information out of the kernel then a trace :( Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 11:01:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA18583 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18578 Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:01:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603271901.LAA18578@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PR Submitted for vm_object_deallocate() panic In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:24:20 EST." Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:01:33 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Hi... > > I just submitted a bug report for a vm_object_deallocate() >panic that just occurred on my machine, but I'm curious if anyone else >is having problems with getting a core dump under -stable? > > I'm using DDB to allow me to get a trace of the crash before it >reboots, and after typing panic at the ddb> prompt, it hangs while trying >to dump: > >dumping to dev 401, offset 172032 >dump 16 <-- hangs right here indefinitely > > The result is I get no core dump, and can't get any better debugging >information out of the kernel then a trace :( This is with an aic7xxx adapter right? The problem is that When I brought the -current driver back to -stable a while back, I removed the poll code from the driver to fix a different problem not realizing that this would break crash dumps. I've restored the poll code in -current and I will bring that back to -stable sometime this week hopefully. > >Thanks... > >Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting >System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, > Administrator | | Information and > scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA22228 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22221 Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id PAA00447; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:01:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PR Submitted for vm_object_deallocate() panic In-Reply-To: <199603271901.LAA18578@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > >Hi... > > > > I just submitted a bug report for a vm_object_deallocate() > >panic that just occurred on my machine, but I'm curious if anyone else > >is having problems with getting a core dump under -stable? > > > > I'm using DDB to allow me to get a trace of the crash before it > >reboots, and after typing panic at the ddb> prompt, it hangs while trying > >to dump: > > > >dumping to dev 401, offset 172032 > >dump 16 <-- hangs right here indefinitely > > > > The result is I get no core dump, and can't get any better debugging > >information out of the kernel then a trace :( > > This is with an aic7xxx adapter right? The problem is that When I brought > the -current driver back to -stable a while back, I removed the poll code > from the driver to fix a different problem not realizing that this would > break crash dumps. I've restored the poll code in -current and I will > bring that back to -stable sometime this week hopefully. > Nope, its an NCR SCSI controller...aic7xxx is adaptec, no? Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 13:18:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA28537 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28532 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA16196 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:16:40 GMT To: stable@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: libdisk Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:16:39 +0000 Message-ID: <16194.827961399@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just tried bootstrapping my machine from an over-customized 2.0R box (running a -stable kernel) to full -stable, and found that it fell over in libdisk. There are 2 problems with libdisk r.e. bootstrapping a) it assumes that file2c is already installed (which, being a 2.0R system, it wasn't). Patch: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /mnt/usr/home/ncvs/src/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.57.4.10 diff -u -r1.57.4.10 Makefile --- 1.57.4.10 1996/02/27 20:51:58 +++ Makefile 1996/03/27 21:12:05 @@ -265,6 +265,8 @@ rm -f /usr/sbin/compile_et cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/mk_cmds && \ ${MAKE} depend all install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} + cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/file2c && \ + ${MAKE} depend all install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} libraries: @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" b) It assumed that /usr/mdec/boot[12] existed, which they didn't on my box. I'm not sure if adding sys/boot/biosboot to the lib-tools target is a good idea or not... Comments? Gary P.S. The restarted make world is still going, so no doubt I'll find more bogons yet :) From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 23:28:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA21779 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21774 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.7.5/BSD4.4) id SAA08042 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:27:57 +1100 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199603290727.SAA08042@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: rmail patch .. To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:27:57 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone please propagate this patch into -stable (it's already in -current and has been for months) .. it fixes what would otherwise bug the hell out of people (me :-() who have to deal with broken UUCP sites. It's already included in sendmail 8.7.5 distribution as recently adopted. *** rmail.c~ Mon Mar 20 01:06:12 1995 --- rmail.c Tue May 16 03:26:57 1995 *************** *** 211,216 **** --- 211,218 ---- /* Save off from user's address; the last one wins. */ for (p = addrp; *p && !isspace(*p); ++p); *p = '\0'; + if (*addrp == '\0') + addrp = "<>"; if (from_user != NULL) free(from_user); if ((from_user = strdup(addrp)) == NULL) From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 03:58:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA07297 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07292 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA29165 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 05:59:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 05:59:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199603291159.FAA29165@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: ARGH!!! make world failed - how to proceed Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to get from 2.1-RELEASE to 2.1 stable for some time now. Many people here have helped a lot, but another 'issue' decided to arise . The first time make world failed, it was right towards the beginning (within 3 minutes of starting). Apparently I needed to re-sup the gnu stuff. Then I started make world again at 7:30am yesterday. It ran great until 4:45pm, when it stopped with a lot of messages, the last few of which were: /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: 579: structure has no member named 'fw_tcpnf' /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function 'ipfw_main' /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: 636: 'IP_FW_ZERO' undeclared (first use this function) Error code 1 Question #1 - what do I need to do to fix this? Question #2 - This is the first make world from 2.1R to 2.1Stable, is there any way to have the make world start hereabouts so it doesn't have to run all over again for hours on end? I think it was almost finished. Or, if I fix problem above will make world automagically notice that most was already done? Can users be logged in now and/or while the make world runs? Question #3 - I noticed a few warnings during the make world (something about implicit redeclaration). Is that normal? Thanks VERY much in advance... Jay West From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 04:13:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA08494 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com (bsd.tseinc.com [199.217.191.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA08488 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws2.tseinc.com (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA29248 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:14:27 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:14:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199603291214.GAA29248@bsd.tseinc.com> X-Sender: jlwest@bsd.tseinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jay L. West" Subject: ARGH!!! make world failed - how to proceed Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to get from 2.1-RELEASE to 2.1 stable for some time now. Many people here have helped a lot, but another 'issue' decided to arise . The first time make world failed, it was right towards the beginning (within 3 minutes of starting). Apparently I needed to re-sup the gnu stuff. Then I started make world again at 7:30am yesterday. It ran great until 4:45pm, when it stopped with a lot of messages, the last few of which were: /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: 579: structure has no member named 'fw_tcpnf' /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function 'ipfw_main' /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: 636: 'IP_FW_ZERO' undeclared (first use this function) Error code 1 Question #1 - what do I need to do to fix this? Question #2 - This is the first make world from 2.1R to 2.1Stable, is there any way to have the make world start hereabouts so it doesn't have to run all over again for hours on end? I think it was almost finished. Or, if I fix problem above will make world automagically notice that most was already done? Can users be logged in now and/or while the make world runs? Question #3 - I noticed a few warnings during the make world (something about implicit redeclaration). Is that normal? Thanks VERY much in advance... Jay West From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 05:02:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA10471 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 05:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA10451 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 05:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14669; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:00:11 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199603291300.PAA14669@grumble.grondar.za> To: "Jay L. West" cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARGH!!! make world failed - how to proceed Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:00:11 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jay L. West" wrote: > Question #1 - what do I need to do to fix this? Dunno. > Question #2 - This is the first make world from 2.1R to 2.1Stable, is there > any way to have the make world start hereabouts so it doesn't have to run > all over again for hours on end? I think it was almost finished. Or, if I > fix problem above will make world automagically notice that most was already > done? Can users be logged in now and/or while the make world runs? > Question #3 - I noticed a few warnings during the make world (something > about implicit redeclaration). Is that normal? If you just "make" or "make all" you may save some work. You will need to "make install" when you are done. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 06:20:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA15218 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15207 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.7.5/BSD4.4) id BAA23202 Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:19:33 +1100 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199603291419.BAA23202@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: rmail patch .. To: andrew@pubnix.net Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:19:32 +1100 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Webster" at Mar 29, 96 08:46:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrew Webster writes: > You don't describe exactly what your patch fixes, but I infer from the > code that it is to fix the condition that occurs when people have > "reading confirmation" enabled and send back a blank message to "" which > causes UUCP to report an error. Sorry .. in my case, I happen to have a stupid SMTP <-> MS-Mail gateway "downstream" behind a UUCP link. If _any_ mail delivery warning or failure occurs or even a return-receipt is requested, the UUCP "From_" line on outbound mail from the gateway looks like this .. From Sat Mar 30 01:02:12 1996 Received: from msmail.xxx.com.au by xxx.xxx.com.au (5.6.5) with SMTP id BAA01601 [ .. ] The result is that rmail rattles around and eventually creates a command line that looks something like .. sendmail -oee -odq -oi -oMrUUCP -f intended@destination Needless to say, this doesn't work particularly well and fills everyone's mailboxes with warnings ("recipient must be specified" amongst others). I should also add that the patch is not mine but Eric Allman's, michael From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 06:43:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA19605 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA19587 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id JAA00664; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:43:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Anyone care to make suggestions on maybe options I should turn on in the kernel? This morning, less then 24hrs since last reboot, the system froze with a SCSI bus hang...again :( (hard drive LED on bright red) After the last hang, I pulled out the ASUS SC-100 I had in the machine and put the Adaptec 1542CF in. Included is what my system currently has in her for hardware, noting that the video card is an ATI Mach64 w/ 4Meg VRAM (shouldn't affect things, should it?) and that there are 2xConner drives and 2xQuantum in the machine. Right about now, I'll try just about anything :) Thanks... FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #5: Tue Mar 26 14:40:09 EST 1996 scrappy@ki.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/kinet CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping=0 Features=0x3 real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14692352 (14348K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 vga0 rev 0 on pci0:15 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:86:44:79, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) vt0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard vt0: generic, 80 col, color, 8 scr, mf2-kbd, [R3.20-b24] sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aha0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 243F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) (aha0:1:0): "QUANTUM LPS340S 020B" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(aha0:1:0): Direct-Access 327MB (670506 512 byte sectors) (aha0:2:0): "QUANTUM LP240S GM240S01X 4.6" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(aha0:2:0): Direct-Access 234MB (479350 512 byte sectors) (aha0:3:0): "CONNER CFA540S 13B0" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(aha0:3:0): Direct-Access 515MB (1056708 512 byte sectors) ep0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 08:15:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA28633 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28610 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.7.5/BSD4.4) id DAA27473 Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:13:23 +1100 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199603291613.DAA27473@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 03:13:22 +1100 (EST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Mar 29, 96 09:43:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marc G. Fournier writes: > Anyone care to make suggestions on maybe options I should turn on > in the kernel? This morning, less then 24hrs since last reboot, the system > froze with a SCSI bus hang...again :( (hard drive LED on bright red) [ .. ] > CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping=0 > Features=0x3 > real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) > avail memory = 14692352 (14348K bytes) > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 This is a CPU with a write-back-capable L1 cache. Mine is an AMD without this ability. Some things I can think of are .. i) check if your BIOS allows you to switch the L1 cache between "write-back" and "write-thru" modes. If it's set to "write-back", try changing to "write-thru". (L2 cache should already be set as "write-thru"). ii) if already "write-thru", try disabling the L1 cache entirely (:-(), iii) make sure SCSI cable is OK and properly terminated, iv) you have a reasonable number of drives on that box .. are they all on a decent (!200W) supply or external ? If there's a shortage of connectors and you're "splitting" rails, try to put a lightly loaded drive with a heavily loaded one rather than two heavily loaded ones together. Garbage on SCSI bus through supply shortfalls won't help. v) make sure that other wait-state, bus clock and RAM burst-fetch parameters are not more aggressive than mfr recommendation, michael From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 08:25:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA29450 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.volant.org (root@phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29440 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:24:49 -0800 (PST) From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA17711; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:23:16 -0800 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03992; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:24:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:24:49 -0800 Message-Id: <9603291624.AA03992@asimov.volant.org> To: jlwest@tseinc.com Subject: Re: ARGH!!! make world failed - how to proceed Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.volant.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: ijOaNhSLsaBt7BwYWoi5Jg== Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> "Jay L. West" wrote: |> > Question #1 - what do I need to do to fix this? I was also having this problem. I tried using 'make -k' to see if I could just skip the ipfw stuff. That built almost everything. (Two other programs failed, also in ways that looked like out-of-sync header files.) Eventually, I discovered that the problem seems to be that I had followed the advice of the Web page and created a separate source tree for the -stable sources. The make was creating a link from /sys to /usr/src/sys, instead of to the sys subdir of my alternate source tree. This meant that everything that included headers from the kernel sources got the old versions instead of the -stable ones. (Setting DESTDIR might have prevented that; but I didn't know about DESTDIR when I tried the first build...) My solution was to rename the old /usr/src and install the -stable sources as /usr/src, then do another 'make world'. It just finished. (One error, listed below), I'm rebuilding my kernel now. -Pat My opinions are my own. For a small royalty, they can be yours as well... Pat Lashley, Senior Software Engineer, Henry Davis Consulting patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG || http://Phoenix.Volant.ORG/ || lashley@netcom.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Rebuilding The whole thing -------------------------------------------------------------- ... ===> lib/libc install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 libc.a /usr/lib ranlib -t /usr/lib/libc.a install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 libc_p.a /usr/lib ranlib -t /usr/lib/libc_p.a install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 -fschg libc.so.2.2 /usr/lib install: libc.so.2.2: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 (continuing) From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 10:00:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA06741 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06734 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11466; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:59:56 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603291759.JAA11466@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR To: imb@scgt.oz.au (michael butler) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:59:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: scrappy@ki.net, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603291613.DAA27473@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> from michael butler at "Mar 30, 96 03:13:22 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Marc G. Fournier writes: > > > Anyone care to make suggestions on maybe options I should turn on > > in the kernel? This morning, less then 24hrs since last reboot, the system > > froze with a SCSI bus hang...again :( (hard drive LED on bright red) > > [ .. ] > > > CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) > > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping=0 > > Features=0x3 > > real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) > > avail memory = 14692352 (14348K bytes) > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > > chip0 rev 49 on pci0:5 > > This is a CPU with a write-back-capable L1 cache. Mine is an AMD without > this ability. The Id=0x480 is not a write back enhanced chip, the 0x470 is. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 12:15:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA17021 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17016 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA00769 ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:09:43 GMT To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:43:37 EST." Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:09:43 +0000 Message-ID: <767.828126583@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Marc G. Fournier" wrote in message ID : > Anyone care to make suggestions on maybe options I should turn on > in the kernel? This morning, less then 24hrs since last reboot, the system > froze with a SCSI bus hang...again :( (hard drive LED on bright red) > (aha0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 243F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) I would be EXTREMELY suspicious of this drive. From my machine: (ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 1823" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) This drive (or rather, certain versions of it) are EXTREMELY unstable when used with non-DOS based environments. I believe it has something to do with FreeBSD requesting larger data transfers than DOS, and the microcode on the drive being screwed up, and not always handling it properly. I'll see if I can dig out a message I got a while ago which tells you what to look for on your drive to see if it's defective. Conner should fix the drive for free, although when I phoned their UK office, they said that it could take a month to get the drive back to me. Since I only have one h/d on my main machine, that's not an option :( So every so often, my machine goes south TOTALLY. Your symptoms are similar (hard drive LED locked on, SCSI bus frozen) to what I had when I had a 1542CF in my system. I modified the AHA driver to call panic() if it timed out twice in a row. You may want this patch - I'll send it to you if you want. Gary From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 12:31:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA18054 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18042 Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id PAA06619; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:31:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:31:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Gary Palmer cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR In-Reply-To: <767.828126583@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > This drive (or rather, certain versions of it) are EXTREMELY unstable > when used with non-DOS based environments. I believe it has something > to do with FreeBSD requesting larger data transfers than DOS, and the > microcode on the drive being screwed up, and not always handling it > properly. > I'm going to try something completely different. Someone suggested the idea of the Conner having problems with Quantum on the same bus, and I seem to remember at one point me having problems with a system that had Quantum/Maxtor on the same bus. So, I'm going to shove the NCR back in, put the Conner drives onto that bus, and throw the Quantum onto a totally seperate bus and see if *that* makes any difference to the stability of the system. A long shot...but the only one I have right now :( > I'll see if I can dig out a message I got a while ago which tells you > what to look for on your drive to see if it's defective. Conner should > fix the drive for free, although when I phoned their UK office, they > said that it could take a month to get the drive back to me. Since I > only have one h/d on my main machine, that's not an option :( So every > so often, my machine goes south TOTALLY. Your symptoms are similar > (hard drive LED locked on, SCSI bus frozen) to what I had when I had a > 1542CF in my system. I modified the AHA driver to call panic() if it > timed out twice in a row. You may want this patch - I'll send it to > you if you want. > Please do send that patch, I'll happily plug it in. Is timing out twice in a row such a rare occurance, though, that it is set at 2, or should that number possibly be higher? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 12:44:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA18970 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@[206.168.112.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18965 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from shane.plutotech.com (durian@shane.plutotech.com [206.168.67.21]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id NAA22320 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:44:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199603292044.NAA22320@pluto.plutotech.com> From: "Mike Durian" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: stable won't boot on my machine Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:44:13 -0700 Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got more details on the booting problem with -stable on my machine. The booting process hangs at the spl0() on line 356 in isa/isa.c. This is the last line in the isa_configure() function. The call to spl0() never returns, and the system hangs without any messages. I'm enclosing the results of the boot probe with -current so you can tell what's in my machine. -current does boot for me (but has other network problems that make it unusable). As I mentioned in the other message, this problem existed for a day or two in -current about two or three weeks ago. It was fixed, but I don't know what changes fixed it, or what the real cause of the problem is. mike PS - What are the chances of the vx driver finding its way into -stable? FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #8: Fri Mar 29 10:44:27 MST 1996 durian@shane.plutotech.com:/usr/src-current/sys/compile/PLUTO CPU: Pentium (132.15-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52b Stepping=11 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30699520 (29980K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x1230, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 12 on pci0:18 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST31230W 0510" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors) ahc0:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present can't get the size vga0 rev 3 on pci0:19 vx0 <3Com 3c595 Fast EtherLink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:20 utp[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:54:20:9a Warning! Defective early revision adapter! Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x320 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 765 fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in ep0 not found at 0x320 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA03266 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com (tty04.com2.houston.net [198.65.148.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA03261 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA12748; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:16:53 -0600 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199603300016.SAA12748@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:16:52 -0600 (CST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Mar 29, 96 09:43:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Anyone care to make suggestions on maybe options I should turn on > in the kernel? This morning, less then 24hrs since last reboot, the system > froze with a SCSI bus hang...again :( (hard drive LED on bright red) > > After the last hang, I pulled out the ASUS SC-100 I had in the machine > and put the Adaptec 1542CF in. > Hi, I'm running stable as of about 4 days ago with SC-200 NCR controller and 1 seagate 425 HD and a SONY CD-ROM, both of which came out of SUN workstations. I also have 2 IDE drives in the system. I have no problems at all. I've also had machines running stable that have 2940s and SC-200s in them and they run fine also. Could it be something else maybe besides the SCSI code? How hi a load is this machine under? Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 18:10:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06840 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06835 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <30780-1154>; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:13:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:13:22 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Gary Clark II cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stable as bad with Adaptec as NCR In-Reply-To: <199603300016.SAA12748@main.gbdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Gary Clark II wrote: > I've also had machines running stable that have 2940s and SC-200s in them > and they run fine also. Could it be something else maybe besides the Consider yourself fortunate. The ahc driver is 2.1 works badly with fast controllers (ex 2940), and fast drives. The ahc driver in -stable is better. There are still problems. A fix for the "free vnode isnt" bug was just committed into stable today which should help. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 13:16:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11119 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11111 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.4/8.7.4) id QAA03695; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:16:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:16:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I'm just curious as to what sort of performance I should see out of my machine, as reported by iozone. I decided to shutdown news to perform my tests, so that the machine is pretty much idle (only thing doing disk activity is pretty much httpd). Mainly, I'm trying to see if I have anything configured wrong, or "not-optimally", that could be changed to improve performance on this machine. :) I'm also sending this to -current, in case there are bugs in -stable that are fixed in -current, that might be reflected here :) My results show: ncr:sd0 - 1.95write/3.01read - Conner CFP1060S ncr:sd1 - 1.75write/2.50read - Conner CFA540S aha:sd2 - 1.06write/1.06read - Quantum LPS340S aha:sd3 - 1.12write/0.94read - Quantum LP240S ncr == ASUS SC-200 PCI Controller aha == Adaptec 1542CF ISA Controller Do those values from IOzone look right? Looking at the aha:sd? values, they look low to me, especially considering that when I ran IOzone on it, there would have been zero activity on those drives except for their respective swap partitions: ki# df | egrep "sd2|sd3" /dev/sd2e 98479 69618 20982 77% /usr/obj /dev/sd3f 151935 137869 1911 99% /usr/src /dev/sd2f 186111 52647 118575 31% /news/overview /dev/sd3e 46111 13379 29043 32% /news/spool/comp/os I had news shutdown...and wasn't doing a make world :) Comments/recommendations? Something I want to set differently or change? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 14:03:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14522 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hell.hia.org (slip-d-3.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.113.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14513 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hannibal@localhost) by hell.hia.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA01682; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:02:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:02:38 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Walters X-Sender: hannibal@hell.hia.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: talk doesn't work Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone else having problems with talk? I don't think it even worked in 2.1.0R. I get: [Couldn't bind to control socket : Can't assign requested address (49)] immediately after starting it. Talk tries to specify an address when it binds it's sockets, instead of INADDR_ANY, and the kernel doesn't like it. I got around it by changing the addresses to INADDR_ANY in ctl.c, but then it just gets stuck in a long "Checking for invitation on caller's machine" loop... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Walters djw@mail.utexas.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 16:25:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA25494 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25486 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <30769-23288>; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:27:42 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:27:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I'm also sending this to -current, in case there are bugs in > -stable that are fixed in -current, that might be reflected here :) > > My results show: > > ncr:sd0 - 1.95write/3.01read - Conner CFP1060S > ncr:sd1 - 1.75write/2.50read - Conner CFA540S > aha:sd2 - 1.06write/1.06read - Quantum LPS340S > aha:sd3 - 1.12write/0.94read - Quantum LP240S > > ncr == ASUS SC-200 PCI Controller > aha == Adaptec 1542CF ISA Controller > > Do those values from IOzone look right? Looking at the aha:sd? > values, they look low to me, especially considering that when I ran IOzone > on it, there would have been zero activity on those drives except for > their respective swap partitions: The aha results seem alright. Remember the 1542 is only a 16bit controller. The ncr results should be higher, unless your drives are slow. On a -stable system with a 2940 and a Quantum Fireball, I see over 6MB/sec on file I/O. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 16:54:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA26832 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26821 Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:54:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603310054.QAA26821@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tom Samplonius cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:27:38 PST." Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:54:19 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The ncr results should be higher, unless your drives are slow. On a >-stable system with a 2940 and a Quantum Fireball, I see over 6MB/sec on >file I/O. Really? Is the Fireball a 7200RPM drive? I would not have expected such high numbers unless you specified a number too low to iozone so you were reading out of the cache or you had a very fast drive. Remember also that the numbers will vary depending on how used the filesystem is and how close to the outside cylinder of the drive the filesystem is. > >Tom -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 17:33:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29556 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29531 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.uniserve.com id <30766-23288>; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:35:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:35:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current In-Reply-To: <199603310054.QAA26821@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > The ncr results should be higher, unless your drives are slow. On a > >-stable system with a 2940 and a Quantum Fireball, I see over 6MB/sec on > >file I/O. > > Really? Is the Fireball a 7200RPM drive? I would not have expected such Yes. Very nice drive. But a little pricey. > high numbers unless you specified a number too low to iozone so you were > reading out of the cache or you had a very fast drive. I used dd. Results were from writing an 80MB file. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 19:44:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA13535 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA13519 Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:44:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199603310344.TAA13519@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:44:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Mar 30, 96 04:16:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marc G. Fournier wrote: > ncr:sd0 - 1.95write/3.01read - Conner CFP1060S > ncr:sd1 - 1.75write/2.50read - Conner CFA540S > aha:sd2 - 1.06write/1.06read - Quantum LPS340S > aha:sd3 - 1.12write/0.94read - Quantum LP240S > > ncr == ASUS SC-200 PCI Controller > aha == Adaptec 1542CF ISA Controller > all tests using ASUS SC-200 (ncr 53c810) IOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O -- V2.01 (10/21/94) Writing the 34 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...17.343750 seconds Reading the file...8.898438 seconds IOZONE performance measurements: 2055586 bytes/second for writing the file 4006499 bytes/second for reading the file "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6220" FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) Bonnie: -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Aspen MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU fujitsu 100 510 99.3 1892 14.4 1301 24.7 458 99.8 3873 39.1 58.0 6.1 (1) 100 649 95.1 2389 22.7 1374 29.9 777 95.7 4073 51.2 55.8 6.2 barracuda 100 670 98.5 2691 27.3 1701 37.8 797 98.5 5097 63.1 85.0 10.0 fujitsu: "FUJITSU M1606S-512 6220" FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) 1041MB (2131992 512 byte sectors) with 3457 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 102 sectors/track (1) outermost tracks of the drive to a newly newfs'ed partition barracuda: "SEAGATE ST12550N 0014" FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) 2040MB (4178874 512 byte sectors) with 2708 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 81 sectors/track From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 20:02:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-stable Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA15937 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA15926 Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01084; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:02:15 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199603310402.UAA01084@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: SCSI Performance under -stable/-current To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:02:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org, scrappy@ki.net, stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from Tom Samplonius at "Mar 30, 96 05:35:36 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > > The ncr results should be higher, unless your drives are slow. On a > > >-stable system with a 2940 and a Quantum Fireball, I see over 6MB/sec on > > >file I/O. > > > > Really? Is the Fireball a 7200RPM drive? I would not have expected such > > Yes. Very nice drive. But a little pricey. Depending on the size of the Fireball it is either a 4500 or 5400 rpm drive. It is not a 7200RPM drive, that would be a Quantum Atlas series. > > high numbers unless you specified a number too low to iozone so you were > > reading out of the cache or you had a very fast drive. > > I used dd. Results were from writing an 80MB file. > > Tom > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD