From owner-cvs-etc Sun Aug 3 21:06:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10894 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10603; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Smith Received: (from msmith@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id VAA13571; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708040402.VAA13571@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc motd Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk msmith 1997/08/03 21:02:06 PDT Modified files: etc motd Log: Reference the correct distribution when mentioning the FAQ and handbook. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +1 -1 src/etc/motd From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:02:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26799 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26697; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 07:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id HAA15854; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708091458.HAA15854@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc aliases Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk phk 1997/08/09 07:58:50 PDT Modified files: etc aliases Log: Add aliases for hostmaster, webmaster & abuse, all point to root. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +6 -1 src/etc/aliases From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:04:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26889 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26881; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA11551; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:04:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199708091504.IAA11551@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-Reply-To: <199708091458.HAA15854@freefall.freebsd.org> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Aug 9, 97 07:58:51 am" To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > phk 1997/08/09 07:58:50 PDT > > Modified files: > etc aliases > Log: > Add aliases for hostmaster, webmaster & abuse, all point to root. I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd file and I did't see you create default accounts for these.... > > Revision Changes Path > 1.5 +6 -1 src/etc/aliases > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:10:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27075 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27067; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA02625; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:07:32 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 08:04:03 PDT." <199708091504.IAA11551@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 08:07:32 -0700 Message-ID: <2621.871139252@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional > only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd Does that include the currently existing "postmaster"? :-) Seriously, I think these new entries are worthwhile *uncommented* so that those legions of new systems don't bounce abuse, as has become an oh-so-annoying tradition against a hoped-for defacto standard. Jordan From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:26:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27992 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27986; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA11577; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199708091526.IAA11577@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-Reply-To: <2621.871139252@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 9, 97 08:07:32 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional > > only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd > > Does that include the currently existing "postmaster"? :-) There is a difference between those.. MAILER-DAEMON is required by sendmail, sendmail is a standard supplied program, and MAILER-DAEMON I believe even appears as required by the RFC's. The indirection throught the alias postmaster to root seems to be redundunt and I have no idea why they did that. > > Seriously, I think these new entries are worthwhile *uncommented* so > that those legions of new systems don't bounce abuse, as has become an > oh-so-annoying tradition against a hoped-for defacto standard. I really want ``abuse, webmaster and hostmaster'' mail BOUNCED on 80% of the systems I administer, that mail shouldn't be sent to dedicated routers, personal systems, etc, etc. If you want a ``hoped-for defacto standard'' to do any good get these added to the host requirements RFC. As I see it right now it is just 3 more ways for root to get junk email. (Yes, the spammers are not filtering ``webmaster, hostmaster or abuse'' for there bulk email lists, and some of them even cull the NIC data specifically LOOKING for new sites and hit both webmaster and hostmaster trying to sell you bulk email lists. Please don't give them yet another way to fill my mail box! -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:29:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28152 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28146; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00991; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:28:48 +0200 (CEST) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 08:26:24 PDT." <199708091526.IAA11577@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:28:48 +0200 Message-ID: <989.871140528@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rod, You're perfectly capable of editing /etc/aliases. Poul-Henning In message <199708091526.IAA11577@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" write s: >> > I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional >> > only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd >> >> Does that include the currently existing "postmaster"? :-) > >There is a difference between those.. MAILER-DAEMON is required by >sendmail, sendmail is a standard supplied program, and MAILER-DAEMON >I believe even appears as required by the RFC's. The indirection >throught the alias postmaster to root seems to be redundunt and I >have no idea why they did that. > >> >> Seriously, I think these new entries are worthwhile *uncommented* so >> that those legions of new systems don't bounce abuse, as has become an >> oh-so-annoying tradition against a hoped-for defacto standard. > >I really want ``abuse, webmaster and hostmaster'' mail BOUNCED on >80% of the systems I administer, that mail shouldn't be sent to >dedicated routers, personal systems, etc, etc. > >If you want a ``hoped-for defacto standard'' to do any good >get these added to the host requirements RFC. > >As I see it right now it is just 3 more ways for root to get >junk email. (Yes, the spammers are not filtering ``webmaster, hostmaster >or abuse'' for there bulk email lists, and some of them even cull >the NIC data specifically LOOKING for new sites and hit both >webmaster and hostmaster trying to sell you bulk email lists. >Please don't give them yet another way to fill my mail box! > >-- >Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com >Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:31:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28313 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28199; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA15934; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708091529.IAA15934@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvs commit: src/etc aliases Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk phk 1997/08/09 08:29:35 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) etc aliases Log: YAMFC (std convention mailboxes aliased to root) Revision Changes Path 1.3.2.1 +35 -5 src/etc/aliases From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 08:35:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28526 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28514; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA11621; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199708091534.IAA11621@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-Reply-To: <989.871140528@critter.dk.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Aug 9, 97 05:28:48 pm" To: phk@critter.dk.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Rod, > > You're perfectly capable of editing /etc/aliases. Yea, and so are YOU! The file /etc/aliases gives us a method to deal with this, placeing what YOU think is correct in it is applying POLICY, FreeBSD should not impose policy as the policy is almost always wrong. > > Poul-Henning > > In message <199708091526.IAA11577@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" write > s: > >> > I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional > >> > only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd > >> > >> Does that include the currently existing "postmaster"? :-) > > > >There is a difference between those.. MAILER-DAEMON is required by > >sendmail, sendmail is a standard supplied program, and MAILER-DAEMON > >I believe even appears as required by the RFC's. The indirection > >throught the alias postmaster to root seems to be redundunt and I > >have no idea why they did that. > > > >> > >> Seriously, I think these new entries are worthwhile *uncommented* so > >> that those legions of new systems don't bounce abuse, as has become an > >> oh-so-annoying tradition against a hoped-for defacto standard. > > > >I really want ``abuse, webmaster and hostmaster'' mail BOUNCED on > >80% of the systems I administer, that mail shouldn't be sent to > >dedicated routers, personal systems, etc, etc. > > > >If you want a ``hoped-for defacto standard'' to do any good > >get these added to the host requirements RFC. > > > >As I see it right now it is just 3 more ways for root to get > >junk email. (Yes, the spammers are not filtering ``webmaster, hostmaster > >or abuse'' for there bulk email lists, and some of them even cull > >the NIC data specifically LOOKING for new sites and hit both > >webmaster and hostmaster trying to sell you bulk email lists. > >Please don't give them yet another way to fill my mail box! -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 12:36:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09538 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09410; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52769(2)>; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:33:56 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177512>; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:33:49 -0700 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), phk@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 97 08:26:24 PDT." <199708091526.IAA11577@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:33:38 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Aug9.123349pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-cvs-etc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: >If you want a ``hoped-for defacto standard'' to do any good >get these added to the host requirements RFC. RFC 2142 isn't good enough for you? Bill From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 13:13:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11027 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10943; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09944; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 16:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 16:11:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199708092011.QAA09944@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-Reply-To: <2621.871139252@time.cdrom.com> References: <199708091504.IAA11551@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> <2621.871139252@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Seriously, I think these new entries are worthwhile *uncommented* so > that those legions of new systems don't bounce abuse, as has become an > oh-so-annoying tradition against a hoped-for defacto standard. More than ``de facto''; there is now a Proposed Standard for `webmaster', `hostmaster', `abuse', `usenet', and so on, to supersede the RFC 82[12] requirement of just `postmaster'. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 14:13:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14126 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14120; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous227.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.227]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27433; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:13:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id XAA02449; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:02:23 +0200 (MET DST) To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases References: <199708091504.IAA11551@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 09 Aug 1997 23:02:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Rodney W. Grimes"'s message of Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Lines: 31 Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: >> phk 1997/08/09 07:58:50 PDT >> etc aliases >> Add aliases for hostmaster, webmaster & abuse, all point to root. >I _hope_ these are commented out by default as BSD has traditional >only enable aliaes for accounts that exist in the default /etc/passwd >file and I did't see you create default accounts for these.... Reading log messages is out of fashion ... ;-( > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.5 +6 -1 src/etc/aliases revision 1.4 date: 1997/06/29 23:09:07; author: wosch; state: Exp; lines: +30 -5 Delete old comment about /bin/mail. We don't have a /bin/mail. Sync with /etc/master.passwd and RFC 2142. In detail: added: man, news, operator, usenet (->news), xten deleted: ingres added as comment: info, marketing, sales, support, abuse, noc, security, ^^^^^ ftp, hostmaster, webmaster, www, bit-bucket, dev-null ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 15:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18190 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18087; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52451(2)>; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:29:39 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177512>; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:29:30 -0700 To: Wolfram Schneider cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@freebsd.org (Poul-Henning Kamp), cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 97 14:02:20 PDT." Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:29:15 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Aug9.152930pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-cvs-etc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wolfram Schneider wrote: >Reading log messages is out of fashion ... ;-( In fact, reading files seems to be out of fashion -- /etc/aliases now has two entries for abuse, webmaster and hostmaster -- one commented, one uncommented. Bill From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 17:47:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23508 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23502; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA05011; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 16:11:21 EDT." <199708092011.QAA09944@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:44:13 -0700 Message-ID: <5008.871173853@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > More than ``de facto''; there is now a Proposed Standard for > `webmaster', `hostmaster', `abuse', `usenet', and so on, to supersede > the RFC 82[12] requirement of just `postmaster'. I stand corrected! Jordan From owner-cvs-etc Sat Aug 9 23:51:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA05904 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05895; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00893; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 08:50:33 +0200 (CEST) To: Bill Fenner cc: Wolfram Schneider , "Rodney W. Grimes" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc aliases In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 15:29:15 PDT." <97Aug9.152930pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 08:50:32 +0200 Message-ID: <891.871195832@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-etc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <97Aug9.152930pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>, Bill Fenner write s: >Wolfram Schneider wrote: >>Reading log messages is out of fashion ... ;-( > >In fact, reading files seems to be out of fashion -- /etc/aliases >now has two entries for abuse, webmaster and hostmaster -- one >commented, one uncommented. Yes, I'm still contemplating deleting that second part, it seems positively bogus to me... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail.