From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 00:25:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15953 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15945 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA28182 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:25:02 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05745; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:19:23 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:19:23 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com>; <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Mar 15, 1997 16:24:41 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > >Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( > > We do have a working (more or less) doscmd. Well, that's good news. Why don't we integrate them into the tree? 3.0 is highly experimental these days, so it's the right time to add yet another experimental feature. > Exactly *what* do you think BSDi could have done to make it easier, ... Nothing. > they gave us the source code to doscmd, some kernel code, and dealt with the > questions we asked them about it? This was just my point. Terry expressed his doubts about BSDi handing out things from their sources, and my point was that they indeed were helpful in the past, but too few of our developers popped up. > You want a working doscmd, show some interest. I'm not very interested in doscmd myself. I probably wouldn't even be able to do much with it. However, i know that many users are asking for it. > Despite many, many messages > by myself and msmith, nobody has come back with, "Thanks for doing this, I > was able to do something I needed to do with it!" Yeah, "Thanks for doing this!" :) No, i can't confirm that i was or would be able to do something with it... but i feel bad that we didn't get further with it yet (and that is clearly neither your or msmith's fault, get me right!). Well really, with so many people asking for it, get it into the tree, and let others test it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 02:56:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19983 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA19976 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA01438; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:56:45 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06192; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:36:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970316113658.DA17735@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:36:58 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: bsampley@best.com (Burton Sampley) Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can only mount wd0s1a (fwd) References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Burton Sampley on Mar 15, 1997 22:31:30 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Burton Sampley wrote: > # mount -av > /dev/wd0a on / (loacl) > /dev/wd2s1e on /backup: No such file or directory > /dev/wd0s1f on /usr: No such file or directory > /dev/wdos1e on /var: No such file or directory Try using the `compatibility' slice devices. mount -u / ed /etc/fstab g/wd.s./s/s.// w q mount -a -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 03:33:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21285 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA21280 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:33:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703161133.DAA21280@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 20227 invoked from network); 16 Mar 1997 11:26:56 -0000 Received: from localhost.berkeley.edu (127.0.0.1) by localhost.berkeley.edu with SMTP; 16 Mar 1997 11:26:56 -0000 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: cannot serve NFS... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20223.858511615.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:26:56 -0800 From: "Jay Nordwick" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody been able to get NFS to server properly under FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP ? About 30 seconds after boot, I get these messages: scheme nfsd:[90]: can't register tcp with portmap scheme mountd[88]: Can't register mount I have adjusted the NFS flags in /etc/sysconfig: nfs_client=YES nfs_server=YES And am at a loss. thanks, Jason -- Join the FreeBSD Revolution! mailto:nordwick@xcf.berkeley.edu http://xcf.berkeley.edu/members.html From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 08:32:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05381 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [199.184.181.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05373 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from right.PCS (right.pcs. [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14642; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:36:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id QAA04808; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:33:09 GMT Message-ID: <19970316103308.02194@right.PCS> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:33:08 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com>; <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com> <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch on Mar 03, 1997 at 09:19:23AM +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 03, 1997 at 09:19:23AM +0100, J Wunsch wrote: > As Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > > > >Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( > > > > We do have a working (more or less) doscmd. > > Well, that's good news. Why don't we integrate them into the tree? > 3.0 is highly experimental these days, so it's the right time to add > yet another experimental feature. At the moment, there seems to be an oddity in the vm86() code, which causes the machine to completely lock up. I've been trying to track this one down for a while, but none of my hypotheses seem to pan out. I think the reason this hasn't been submitted to the tree yet, other than the fact that it still has problems, is that 2.2 is out of the picture at the moment, and 3.0 has been unbuildable until recently. -- Jonathan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 08:49:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06148 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06124; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15142; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:49:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:49:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703161649.JAA15142@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org CC: gibbs@freebsd.org Subject: Recent ahc changes broke kernel config Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk moth:/sys/i386/conf # config foo files.i386: no-obj must be optional or standard From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 08:56:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA06810 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (root@proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06793 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA11429; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:47:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:47:40 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley To: Joerg Wunsch cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can only mount wd0s1a (fwd) In-Reply-To: <19970316113658.DA17735@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all that have helped me. Here's what finally worked: I couldn't load any of the editors, so I mv fstab fstab.old, then cat fstab.old. Then cat > fstab and I retyped all of the entries removing the 's1'. Then I did shutdown and rebooted, only because procfs complained about an I/O error. After I rebooted everything mounted fine and now I'm back in business (and this Lose95 laptop can go back to being a paperweight) Thanks again. Burton Sampley On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Burton Sampley wrote: > > > # mount -av > > /dev/wd0a on / (loacl) > > /dev/wd2s1e on /backup: No such file or directory > > /dev/wd0s1f on /usr: No such file or directory > > /dev/wdos1e on /var: No such file or directory > > Try using the `compatibility' slice devices. > > mount -u / > ed /etc/fstab > g/wd.s./s/s.// > w > q > mount -a > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 09:21:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08098 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08091 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA11487 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:21:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18102; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:13:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970316181354.HP23215@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:13:54 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <199703151920.MAA04616@phaeton.artisoft.com>; <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com> <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> <19970316103308.02194@right.PCS> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970316103308.02194@right.PCS>; from Jonathan Lemon on Mar 16, 1997 10:33:08 -0600 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jonathan Lemon wrote: > I think the reason this hasn't been submitted to the tree yet, other than > the fact that it still has problems, is that 2.2 is out of the picture at > the moment, and 3.0 has been unbuildable until recently. So this is your chance! Dump it in, and once the tree is buildable again, the people will be happy that it now ``only'' locks their kernels. :-) :-) Seriously, since it's an option anyway, and we are in experimental mood right now, this is really the best time to get the stuff in. This allows more developers to have a peek at it, and throw ideas around for why it's broken. This won't happen as long as only two or three people know about it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 09:29:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08436 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08426; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id SAA04105; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:16:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id RAA09794; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:56:41 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970316175641.35620@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:56:41 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make: don't know how to make ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_reg.h. Stop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After the last AHA SCSI commits ... root{1016} /bisdn/compile/BISDN make depend cc -c -pipe -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMFS -DTELES_HAS_MEMCPYB -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -DMAXUSERS=64 -UKERNEL ../../i386/i386/genassym.c cc -pipe -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMFS -DTELES_HAS_MEMCPYB -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -DMAXUSERS=64 genassym.o -o genassym ./genassym >assym.s rm -f param.c cp ../../conf/param.c . sh ../../kern/vnode_if.sh ../../kern/vnode_if.src make: don't know how to make ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_reg.h. Stop -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 09:51:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09768 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09748; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id EAA10415; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:47:09 +1100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:47:09 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703161747.EAA10415@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, nate@mt.sri.com Subject: Re: Recent ahc changes broke kernel config Cc: gibbs@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >moth:/sys/i386/conf # config foo >files.i386: no-obj must be optional or standard I just fixed this in -current. -current also had a related bug in /sys/conf/files. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 10:54:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13630 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13614; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03152; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:53:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703161853.LAA03152@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Andreas Klemm cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_reg.h. Stop In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:56:41 +0100." <19970316175641.35620@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:53:36 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >After the last AHA SCSI commits ... You need to re-run config. You also need to sync to Bruces last few commits to sys/conf/files and sys/conf/files.i386. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 11:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14292 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14271; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03181; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:05:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703161905.MAA03181@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@mt.sri.com, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent ahc changes broke kernel config In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:47:09 +1100." <199703161747.EAA10415@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:05:30 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>moth:/sys/i386/conf # config foo >>files.i386: no-obj must be optional or standard > >I just fixed this in -current. -current also had a related bug in >/sys/conf/files. > >Bruce Nate lied a bit. He is running off of the 2.2 branch as you can tell since that branch only had one of my config goofs in it. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 11:33:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15535 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15529 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA09028; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:33:52 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 11:33:52 -0800 From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199703161933.LAA09028@kithrup.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Newsgroups: kithrup.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <19970316091923.LT11860.kithrup.freebsd.current@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Mar 15, 1997 16:24:41 -0800 Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <19970316091923.LT11860.kithrup.freebsd.current@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: >> We do have a working (more or less) doscmd. >Well, that's good news. Why don't we integrate them into the tree? >3.0 is highly experimental these days, so it's the right time to add >yet another experimental feature. We haven't checked it in for several reasons: 1. I don't run -current ;). I just, in fact, upgraded to 2.2--GAMMA in early February. 2. -current is still suffering from the Lite/2 integration, and msmith, jlemon, and I decided we would wait for it to settle down before we started merging with -current. (Because we didn't want to deal with the problems of having one experimental patch on top of an unstable system.) 3. As jlemon points out himself, it can lock up the system. (Not completely lock up, but only interrupt-driven services run. And, sadly, X is not interrupt driven. :() We're not sure what's going on here; my suspicion is an infinite loop in the kernel, doscmd getting a cli passed through, and/or we're somehow bypassing the normal code path that allows the kernel to switch processes. >Well really, with so many people asking for it, >get it into the tree, and let others test it. The problem is, as I pointed out on -emulation, that strict DOS emulation doesn't buy you a whole lot. And that's all doscmd does. DOSEMU might provide more (it has support for DPMI, and can even run Windows 3.1 in non-extended [80186] mode), but I don't know how much. A working Wabi, WINE, or SoftWindows is probably more valuble to users these days. Sean. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 13:48:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21395 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21388 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06352; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:38:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703162138.OAA06352@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:38:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Mar 16, 97 09:19:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > they gave us the source code to doscmd, some kernel code, and dealt with the > > questions we asked them about it? > > This was just my point. Terry expressed his doubts about BSDi handing > out things from their sources, and my point was that they indeed were > helpful in the past, but too few of our developers popped up. I expressed my doubt about the utility and the timeliness of the availability of the code, actually. This is slightly different than doubting that they would hand code over at all (though so far, we have only hearsay on that matter, even if I personally credit the sources, since there has been no public statement by the coder). I think the soft updates stuff being done, as it was described to me, is not terribly useful to FreeBSD. The login.conf stuff, especially the ability to run BSDi bianries for the authentication modules, strikes me as a hell of a lot more useful (and a much more pressing need). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 13:54:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21623 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-20.netcom.ca [207.181.94.84]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21612 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA27236 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:54:11 -0400 (AST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:54:11 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make world fails in libstdc++ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Has anyone experienced this on a make world? I haven't seen any mention of it, or a fix, but the sources are sup'd as of today... ===> libstdc++ c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/include/g++ -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libio -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../. ./contrib/libg++/libstdc++ -fno-implicit-templates -DC -DREP -DMAIN -DTRAITS -DADDSS -DADDPS -DADDCS -DADDSP -DADDSC -DEQSS -DEQPS -DEQSP -DNESS -DNEPS -DNESP -DLTSS -DLTPS -DLTSP -DGTSS -DGTPS -DGTSP -DLESS -DLEPS -DLESP -DGESS -DGEPS -DGESP -c /usr/src/ gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc -o cstrmain.o c++ -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/include/g++ -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libio -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../. ./contrib/libg++/libstdc++ -fno-implicit-templates -DC -DEXTRACT -DINSERT -DGETLINE -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc -o cstrio.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc:146: no matching template for `getline(istream &, basic_string > &)' found *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 13:56:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21688 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:56:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16045; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:55:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:55:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703162155.OAA16045@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent ahc changes broke kernel config In-Reply-To: <199703161905.MAA03181@narnia.plutotech.com> References: <199703161747.EAA10415@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199703161905.MAA03181@narnia.plutotech.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Justin T. Gibbs writes: > >>moth:/sys/i386/conf # config foo > >>files.i386: no-obj must be optional or standard > > > >I just fixed this in -current. -current also had a related bug in > >/sys/conf/files. > > > >Bruce > > Nate lied a bit. He is running off of the 2.2 branch as you can tell > since that branch only had one of my config goofs in it. I lied? Those are pretty strong words given that I never gave any indication which branch I was running, (my fault), and all other 2.2 traffic has gone on in freebsd-current. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 14:06:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22242 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22235; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16084; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:06:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:06:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703162206.PAA16084@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: -current and -stable mailing lists Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where do we send bug reports and comments on 2.2 now that 2.2 is released? In the past -stable was 2.1.*, and -current was anything/everything else. Inquiring minds would like to know? Should we state that 2.2 is now -stable material, since I suspect it's at least as stable as the 2.1.0 release. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:24:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08876 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08866; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA23869 ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14829; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:26:39 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703162206.PAA16084@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:25:21 -0600 To: Nate Williams From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Where do we send bug reports and comments on 2.2 now that 2.2 is >released? In the past -stable was 2.1.*, and -current was >anything/everything else. > >Inquiring minds would like to know? Should we state that 2.2 is now >-stable material, since I suspect it's at least as stable as the 2.1.0 >release. IMHO, we need to get away from the bifurcated view of systems. 2.2 certainly has not yet proven itself enough to be a replacement for 2.1. And, at the same time, the head branch is a different development. If we MUST use the "current" tag to refer to any system, 2.2 is an ideal candidate. I realize that there is the hysterical (historical?) precedent that calls that "not yet ready for public view" 3.0 system "current" although "future" might be more appropriate. I suggest that the best solution is to drop the status designations and instead use the release family as the designation. 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, etc. That way it is clear which list is appropriate for a particular discussion. A small change in the majordomo setup could make the change easy for the users. The mailing list for "stable" and traffic to it could be rerouted to a new 2.1 list. The "current" list could be duplicated into both the 2.2 and 3.0 lists. As people learn to direct traffic to a more specific list, the old lists could be phased out. Until someone decides to change something in the mailing lists, I recommend that things remain as they were. "stable" is 2.1. "current" is anything more recent. However, "[2.2]" or [3.0]" in the subject would help sort things. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:27:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09600 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09570 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA23618 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03505; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:38:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703162338.QAA03505@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Nate Williams cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Recent ahc changes broke kernel config In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:55:41 MST." <199703162155.OAA16045@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:38:12 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Justin T. Gibbs writes: >> >>moth:/sys/i386/conf # config foo >> >>files.i386: no-obj must be optional or standard >> > >> >I just fixed this in -current. -current also had a related bug in >> >/sys/conf/files. >> > >> >Bruce >> >> Nate lied a bit. He is running off of the 2.2 branch as you can tell >> since that branch only had one of my config goofs in it. > >I lied? Those are pretty strong words given that I never gave any >indication which branch I was running, (my fault), and all other 2.2 >traffic has gone on in freebsd-current. > > >Nate Perhaps I should have put in a smiley, but from Webster's 9th new Collegiate dictionary, the second definition for lied is: To create a false or misleading impression. It doesn't say anything about intent (and its obvious you didn't intend to mislead), but at least on person was misled by your post. But I don't want to be pedantic about this and if you took offense at my comment, I apologize. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:27:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09634 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09581 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from osti.rmt.i1.net (pm5-81.i1.net [207.230.58.81]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA23654 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wolpert@localhost) by osti.rmt.i1.net (8.8.2/8.6.12) id RAA00812; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:51:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:51:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199703162351.RAA00812@osti.rmt.i1.net> From: Edward Wolpert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help moving from current to 2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.90) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Folks- I've been running my system from the 'current' system, with my system built last November. I want to update to 2.2, and no longer do sup -v current, but I don't want to go through an 'upgrade.' I liked doing my 'make world' at /usr/src. What I want to know is this; can I just download the source (/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-RELEASE/src, and des source) into my current system and do another make world, and be in 2.2-R? Seems logical, but I wanted to post what I plan to do in case anyone knows any reasons why I shouldn't. (FYI, the reason for this change is since the last sup I did, back in November, my system became 'pseudo-production' so I didn't want to screw it up too badly any more. ;-) - -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert --------- --------- wolpert@1i.net | 4A A5 96 0B 7D FE 5F F8 | 2047/4AB972BD 1996/09/21 | 3A F9 0E BC 77 3C 7A F9 | "It's 5:50 a.m., Do you know where your stack pointer is?" 4e75 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Key at http://pgp.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands-beta.html iQEVAwUBMyyHdvrOoi1KuXK9AQGG4Af/T4pNf7CJxjoYACM8lyYvopNJ/sDI0nbC Onm2e5L0Z8FCBvvPGdvSlz1mkF04/47XgtJlF6ohnTLt97HVh2ZDXMhOMLQWDVIs Bgz79TaAggMCV+fHTSHvLhgvHcitmPAlX5poDLuwBGtpKAfCMoIlX+XTg3zvQPaL xmCPrykVuHsQGKrrTi7VhN1e5knxuop0zKz/vWngYvYCZd7nK13dT5X53rkITvEW CitjnqYhgRv7u/w1jFgNt3mn/q6K7vueWKD+cLxd770EqckGqkSg8sSrq6gTeWJx DZPMmMqGLjFAwZvPLG4RzWgXfFC4iTrH1OsfqXa9MRlWu+B+LcTCqg== =Dkyi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:28:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09977 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09933; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.noc.best.net (rone@bofh.noc.best.net [205.149.163.54]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA23690 ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rone@localhost) by bofh.noc.best.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA07355; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199703162349.PAA07355@bofh.noc.best.net> Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists In-Reply-To: <199703162206.PAA16084@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Mar 16, 97 03:06:11 pm" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:49:27 -0800 (PST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: Where do we send bug reports and comments on 2.2 now that 2.2 is released? In the past -stable was 2.1.*, and -current was anything/everything else. Inquiring minds would like to know? Should we state that 2.2 is now -stable material, since I suspect it's at least as stable as the 2.1.0 release. Well, logically (well, my logic, for what that's worth), 3.0 should be under -current and 2.2 should be under -stable. 2.1-stable should be moved to -oldiebutgoodie or something like that. rone -- Ron Echeverri Best Internet Usenet Administration rone@best.net ############################################################################# INGREDIENT: Sodium benzoate (to preserve taste) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:29:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10287 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10239 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA23251 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00362 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:12:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703162312.SAA00362@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: current@FreeBSD.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: update for usr.sbin/moused.c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_7211520040" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 18:12:47 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_7211520040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've once again merged my changes into moused.c to support the ALPS Glidepoint pointing device after doing a 'make world', and having my mouse stop working again. Could someone please commit them? They've been well tested here. louie --==_Exmh_7211520040 Content-Type: application/octet-stream ; name="moused.c.diff" Content-Description: moused.c.diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="moused.c.diff" --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/moused/moused.c Sat Feb 22 11:06:42 1997 +++ moused.c Sat Mar 15 21:15:34 1997 @@ -75,6 +75,7 @@ #define R_LOGIMAN 6 #define R_PS_2 7 #define R_MMHITAB 8 +#define R_GLIDEPOINT 9 char *rnames[] = { "xxx", @@ -86,6 +87,7 @@ "mouseman", "ps/2", "mmhitab", + "glidepoint", NULL }; @@ -100,6 +102,7 @@ (CS7 | CREAD | CLOCAL | HUPCL ), /* MouseMan */ 0, /* PS/2 */ (CS8 | CREAD | CLOCAL | HUPCL ), /* MMHitTablet */ + 0, /* Glidepoint */ }; @@ -219,6 +222,7 @@ rodent.portname = "/dev/mse0"; break; case R_PS_2: + case R_GLIDEPOINT: if (!rodent.portname) rodent.portname = "/dev/psm0"; break; @@ -280,6 +284,8 @@ void usage(void) { + int i; + fprintf(stderr, " Usage is %s [options] -p -t \n" " Options are -s Select 9600 baud mouse.\n" @@ -290,15 +296,10 @@ " -D Lower DTR\n" " -S baud Select explicit baud (1200..9600).\n" " should be one of :\n" - " microsoft\n" - " mousesystems\n" - " mmseries\n" - " logitech\n" - " busmouse\n" - " mouseman\n" - " ps/2\n" - " mmhittab\n" ,progname); + + for (i = 1; rnames[i]; i++) + fprintf(stderr, " %s\n", rnames[i]); exit(1); } @@ -399,7 +400,8 @@ write(rodent.mfd, "*X", 2); setmousespeed(1200, rodent.baudrate, rodentcflags[R_LOGIMAN]); } else { - if ((rodent.rtype != R_BUSMOUSE) && (rodent.rtype != R_PS_2)) + if ((rodent.rtype != R_BUSMOUSE) && (rodent.rtype != R_PS_2) + && (rodent.rtype != R_GLIDEPOINT)) { /* try all likely settings */ setmousespeed(9600, rodent.baudrate, rodentcflags[rodent.rtype]); @@ -489,6 +491,7 @@ { 0x40, 0x40, 0x40, 0x00, 3 }, /* MouseMan */ { 0xc0, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 3 }, /* PS/2 mouse */ { 0xe0, 0x80, 0x80, 0x00, 3 }, /* MM_HitTablet */ + { 0xc0, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 3 }, /* glidepoint */ }; debug("received char 0x%x",(int)rBuf); @@ -610,6 +613,16 @@ act.buttons = (pBuf[0] & 0x04) >> 1 | /* Middle */ (pBuf[0] & 0x02) >> 1 | /* Right */ (pBuf[0] & 0x01) << 2; /* Left */ + act.dx = (pBuf[0] & 0x10) ? pBuf[1]-256 : pBuf[1]; + act.dy = (pBuf[0] & 0x20) ? -(pBuf[2]-256) : -pBuf[2]; + break; + + case R_GLIDEPOINT: /* Glidepoint */ + act.buttons = ((pBuf[0] & 0x04) ? MIDDLE_BUTTON : 0) | + ((pBuf[0] & 0x02) ? RIGHT_BUTTON : 0) | + (((pBuf[0] & 0x01) || + ((pBuf[0] & 0x08) == 0)) ? LEFT_BUTTON : 0); + act.dx = (pBuf[0] & 0x10) ? pBuf[1]-256 : pBuf[1]; act.dy = (pBuf[0] & 0x20) ? -(pBuf[2]-256) : -pBuf[2]; break; --==_Exmh_7211520040-- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:44:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11296 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11254 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA05370; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:14:16 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703170144.MAA05370@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-Reply-To: <199703152301.QAA04534@rover.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Mar 15, 97 04:01:56 pm" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:14:16 +1030 (CST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner Losh stands accused of saying: > Question: > IF I had a working doscmd, would it be able to run Windows > binaries? Or am I better off with Wine? No. Doscmd will let you run DOS binaries. If you want to run Windows programs, WINE is your friend. > Warner -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 17:45:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11364 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11348 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA05353; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:13:20 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703170143.MAA05353@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-Reply-To: <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Mar 16, 97 09:19:23 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:13:20 +1030 (CST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch stands accused of saying: > As Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > > > >Or a working doscmd. For instance. :-( > > > > We do have a working (more or less) doscmd. > > Well, that's good news. Why don't we integrate them into the tree? > 3.0 is highly experimental these days, so it's the right time to add > yet another experimental feature. I'm waiting for Jonathan to be happy with his in-kernel x86 emulation before I commit. That and for 3.0 to be adequately functional so that I can take the risk of bumping a machine here to it. > fault, get me right!). Well really, with so many people asking for it, > get it into the tree, and let others test it. Really, the people that are likely to do anything with doscmd are _not_ going to be running 3.0 at this point in time. Still, I too wish to get the code into the mainstream tree just as soon as I'm happy it works. > cheers, J"org -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 20:34:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19093 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [199.184.181.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19081 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from right.PCS (right.pcs. [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16192; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:37:29 -0600 (CST) Received: (jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id EAA11328; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:34:15 GMT Message-ID: <19970316223415.24505@right.PCS> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:34:15 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Sean Eric Fagan Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com>; <199703161933.LAA09028@kithrup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <199703161933.LAA09028@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Mar 03, 1997 at 11:33:52AM -0800 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 03, 1997 at 11:33:52AM -0800, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > 3. As jlemon points out himself, it can lock up the system. (Not > completely lock up, but only interrupt-driven services run. And, sadly, X > is not interrupt driven. :() We're not sure what's going on here; my > suspicion is an infinite loop in the kernel, doscmd getting a cli passed > through, and/or we're somehow bypassing the normal code path that allows the > kernel to switch processes. What's happening (in the test case I'm working on) is that the vm86() process is going into an infinite loop, and somehow or the other, an AST interrupt is not being generated. Interrupts are enabled, the kernel is getting called, the AST flag in _ipending is set, but when _doreti gets hit, it just jumps back into vm86 mode instead of calling trap(). Right now, I can recover by writing a garbage %ds on the frame, and forcing a call into trap() via a doreti fault. Any feedback or ideas on how this could happen are happily accepted. -- Jonathan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 21:35:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA21091 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA21085 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id VAA10736; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:34:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:34:48 -0800 From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199703170534.VAA10736@kithrup.com> To: jlemon@americantv.com Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Newsgroups: kithrup.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <19970316223415.24505.kithrup.freebsd.current@right.pcs> References: <199703161933.LAA09028@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Mar 03, 1997 at 11:33:52AM -0800 Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >What's happening (in the test case I'm working on) is that the vm86() >process is going into an infinite loop, and somehow or the other, an AST >interrupt is not being generated. > >Interrupts are enabled, the kernel is getting called, the AST flag in >_ipending is set, but when _doreti gets hit, it just jumps back into vm86 >mode instead of calling trap(). Right now, I can recover by writing >a garbage %ds on the frame, and forcing a call into trap() via a doreti fault. msmith and I saw this early on, when we were using return_from_vm86() instead of the normal code path. For a while, I was hacking around it by calling userret() manually -- however, that shouldn't be an issue now, since you (jlemon) fixed the kernel stack layout, allowing us to simply return via normal channels. I've never been able to follow the low-level code through; Bruce is the only one I know of who knows it as well as I want to. Obviously, this note doesn't have a suggestion or a solution. :( Sean. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 23:18:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26188 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26176; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id IAA15523; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:01:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id HAA01773; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:27:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317072718.51465@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:27:18 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: don't know how to make ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_reg.h. Stop References: <19970316175641.35620@klemm.gtn.com> <199703161853.LAA03152@narnia.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Mar 16, 1997 at 11:53:36AM -0700, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >After the last AHA SCSI commits ... > > You need to re-run config. You also need to sync to Bruces last few > commits to sys/conf/files and sys/conf/files.i386. Sure, I reran config ... but Bruce commits came later ;-) Anyway, I'm currently cvsupping the changes. Thanks Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 23:21:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26482 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26471 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA29530; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:21:35 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12349; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:10:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317081018.OO52429@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:10:18 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: wolpert@i1.net (Edward Wolpert) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help moving from current to 2.2 References: <199703162351.RAA00812@osti.rmt.i1.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703162351.RAA00812@osti.rmt.i1.net>; from Edward Wolpert on Mar 16, 1997 17:51:26 -0600 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Edward Wolpert wrote: > I've been running my system from the 'current' system, with my > system built last November. I want to update to 2.2, and no longer do > sup -v current, but I don't want to go through an 'upgrade.' I liked > doing my 'make world' at /usr/src. This should work. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 23:22:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26541 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26532 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA29545 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:22:05 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18160; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:14:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317081446.QZ41932@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:14:46 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <19970316091923.LT11860@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199703170143.MAA05353@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703170143.MAA05353@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Mar 17, 1997 12:13:20 +1030 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > > fault, get me right!). Well really, with so many people asking for it, > > get it into the tree, and let others test it. > > Really, the people that are likely to do anything with doscmd are _not_ > going to be running 3.0 at this point in time. Sure, but if you never start, you'll never arrive. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 23:22:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26562 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26542 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA29549 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:22:43 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19666; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:16:15 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317081614.KK10581@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:16:14 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <199703160024.QAA13864@kithrup.com>; <199703161933.LAA09028@kithrup.com> <19970316223415.24505@right.PCS> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970316223415.24505@right.PCS>; from Jonathan Lemon on Mar 16, 1997 22:34:15 -0600 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jonathan Lemon wrote: > What's happening (in the test case I'm working on) is that the vm86() > process is going into an infinite loop, and somehow or the other, an AST > interrupt is not being generated. > > Interrupts are enabled, ... If interrupts are still working, DDB or remote kgdb should be working, too? This should simplify debugging. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 16 23:55:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA28119 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA28114 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA08636; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:24:22 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703170754.SAA08636@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-Reply-To: <19970317081614.KK10581@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Mar 17, 97 08:16:14 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:24:21 +1030 (CST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch stands accused of saying: > As Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > What's happening (in the test case I'm working on) is that the vm86() > > process is going into an infinite loop, and somehow or the other, an AST > > interrupt is not being generated. > > > > Interrupts are enabled, ... > > If interrupts are still working, DDB or remote kgdb should be working, > too? This should simplify debugging. It doesn't much though, at least as far as I've been able to establish. Every time I've broken into the debugger, the CPU is off executing in userland in the vm86 process; presumably because interrupts don't happen during trap processing. Can you set a breakpoint in and step through a trap handler? > cheers, J"org -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 00:07:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA28575 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28569 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id KAA00928 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:05:15 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199703170805.KAA00928@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: panics? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:05:15 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk is it only me or does the -current (well, now few days old) cause some panics? anyone? yes, i know it's expected and stuff, and i did expect it to be flaky. i havent yet been able to track down what exactly causes it to fall down, but were wondering if someone would have ideas... and as soon as i catch the reason i'll let you know... (i think i turn on the panic dumps) while i post, to me it sounds a nice idea to twiddle the naming like it was suggested... 2.1.x stable 2.2.x current 3.0.x future (experimental?) it would make it somewhat more clear. mickey From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 00:26:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29208 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29203 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA00641 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:26:23 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04612; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:22:36 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317092236.PT43328@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:22:36 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. References: <19970317081614.KK10581@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199703170754.SAA08636@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703170754.SAA08636@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Mar 17, 1997 18:24:21 +1030 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > Can you set a breakpoint in and step through a trap handler? Probably not. :( -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 00:34:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29566 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29561 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA00816 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:34:51 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04688; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:31:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317093154.WS08508@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:31:54 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panics? References: <199703170805.KAA00928@shadows.aeon.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703170805.KAA00928@shadows.aeon.net>; from mika ruohotie on Mar 17, 1997 10:05:15 +0200 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As mika ruohotie wrote: > while i post, to me it sounds a nice idea to twiddle the naming like it > was suggested... > > 2.1.x stable > 2.2.x current > 3.0.x future (experimental?) Well, we've been referring to the experimental stuff as -current for all the time. I'm afraid it's simply too late switching paradigms now, since it would confuse the hell out of the users. -current has been declared to be experimental, even though it was often a fairly stable system, too. Right now it isn't (and it certainly won't be again for a while, we need to push new stuff into the tree in order to get it debugged before 3.0 can be done). 2.2 should become 2.2-stable. The tag `-stable' never really meant that the system was stable at all :), i remember that 2.1-stable was often less stable than (2.2)-current, due to being less used for some time. There's no conflict in keeping the name 2.1-stable for this branch as well, although, as 2.2-stable will mature, it will probably really finally die, as has been predicted so many times now. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 01:29:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01730 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from kachina.jetcafe.org (kachina.jetcafe.org [207.155.21.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01711; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1]) by kachina.jetcafe.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21658; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:29:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kachina.jetcafe.org: Host [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:29:04 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I suggest that the best solution is to drop the status designations and > instead use the release family as the designation. 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, etc. > That way it is clear which list is appropriate for a particular > discussion. On a related note...I'd like to add that it would be real helpful to those of us who dislike bothering the mountaintop source gurus if the mailing lists were archived in such a way as to be threaded and readable by date. That way we could peruse entire threads of discussion. The search engine (when it works) isn't cutting it. For an example, just try and find out how to upgrade from 2.1.7 to 2.2 by using CVSup and make world. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Better the demon that makes you improve than the angel who threatens. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 03:22:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05604 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05599 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id WAA08834; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:18:43 +1100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:18:43 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703171118.WAA08834@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Can you set a breakpoint in and step through a trap handler? > >Probably not. :( Erm, I do it routinely. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 03:52:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA06657 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06650 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id WAA09824; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:46:15 +1100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:46:15 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703171146.WAA09824@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jlemon@americantv.com, sef@Kithrup.COM Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >What's happening (in the test case I'm working on) is that the vm86() >process is going into an infinite loop, and somehow or the other, an AST >interrupt is not being generated. > >Interrupts are enabled, the kernel is getting called, the AST flag in >_ipending is set, but when _doreti gets hit, it just jumps back into vm86 >mode instead of calling trap(). Right now, I can recover by writing >a garbage %ds on the frame, and forcing a call into trap() via a doreti fault. This means that the new cpl still masks ASTs (it should be 0 for return to user mode) or maybe that the phantom AST test isn't working because the stack frame is unusual. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 04:28:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA07934 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07928 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29152; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:28:21 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970317093154.WS08508@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <199703170805.KAA00928@shadows.aeon.net>; from mika ruohotie on Mar 17, 1997 10:05:15 +0200 <199703170805.KAA00928@shadows.aeon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:28:24 -0600 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Which lists for discussion. Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) replies: >As mika ruohotie wrote: > >> while i post, to me it sounds a nice idea to twiddle the naming like it >> was suggested... >> >> 2.1.x stable >> 2.2.x current >> 3.0.x future (experimental?) > >Well, we've been referring to the experimental stuff as -current for >all the time. I'm afraid it's simply too late switching paradigms >now, since it would confuse the hell out of the users. I can also argue that all 2.2 discussion has always been on "current" and never on "stable". Rather than move the 2.2 discussion, we could equally move the 3.0 discussion. Legacy is a poor excuse to continue a BAD decision. Although you point out that "seasoned" users might suffer confusion from a name change, I will argue that new users DO SUFFER from the present state of affairs. This in turn leads to a greater load on the group who repeatedly have to explain that "stable" is, at best shaky, and that the latest release is never "current". Although, at some time in the future, we might return to the use of the terms "stable" and "current" with a meaning that is more in line with their English meaning, the solution which avoids the ambiguity is to establish a new naming convention and transition everyone to it. We can even use Majordomo to help wean the "caught in a rut" old timers who cannot break the habit of sending mail to "current" by having it forward that mail to "2.2" and "3.0" and, at the same time, send a polite message back to the originator indicating that the list is deprecated. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 05:04:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09203 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09196; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA18505; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:04:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:04:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703171304.GAA18505@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dave Hayes Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists In-Reply-To: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> References: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On a related note...I'd like to add that it would be real helpful to > those of us who dislike bothering the mountaintop source gurus if the > mailing lists were archived in such a way as to be threaded and > readable by date. That way we could peruse entire threads of > discussion. I'm using VM (ViewMail) for my mail reader (an Emacs package) and it threads mail on the fly for me. It's quite nice, and highly recommended. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 05:43:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA10690 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10684; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22373; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:43:18 GMT Message-ID: <19970317134318.30595@pavilion.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:43:18 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists References: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> <199703171304.GAA18505@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: <199703171304.GAA18505@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Mon, Mar 17, 1997 at 06:04:01AM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Mar 17, 1997 at 06:04:01AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > On a related note...I'd like to add that it would be real helpful to > > those of us who dislike bothering the mountaintop source gurus if the > > mailing lists were archived in such a way as to be threaded and > > readable by date. That way we could peruse entire threads of > > discussion. > > I'm using VM (ViewMail) for my mail reader (an Emacs package) and it > threads mail on the fly for me. It's quite nice, and highly > recommended. > > > Nate So does mutt (http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/). Also does pgp. Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager Email: joe@pavilion.net Pavilion Internet plc. [Tel: +44 1273 607072 Fax: +44 1273 607073] From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 06:00:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11562 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from morse.satech.net.au (root@morse.satech.net.au [203.1.91.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11467; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from box.satech.net.au (root@box.satech.net.au [203.0.179.3]) by morse.satech.net.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA04281; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:42:07 +0930 Received: from matte.satech.net.au (matte.satech.net.au [203.1.91.219]) by box.satech.net.au (go-away/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA07871; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:42:20 +0930 Received: from matte.satech.net.au (localhost.satech.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by matte.satech.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00508; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:28:45 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <332D470C.41C67EA6@satech.net.au> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:28:44 +1100 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Wackerbarth CC: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is ridiculous. FreeBSD 3.X is CURRENT! of course 2.2 will mature into stable and 2.1 will disappear over time, but 3.X is here to stay. Most development seems to be done on 3.X and then duplicated on 2.X if appropriate. Many people such as I run 3.0 systems and find them very stable as long as we read the freebsd-current mailing list and choose our times to "make world". I for example have not touched my make world since Feb 9th and have a system that is working very nicely at ctm-src-cur delta #2722 Naturally you'd be a bit silly to run 3.X in your uptime critical big $$$ business but then thats your decision. Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > > >Where do we send bug reports and comments on 2.2 now that 2.2 is > >released? In the past -stable was 2.1.*, and -current was > >anything/everything else. > > > >Inquiring minds would like to know? Should we state that 2.2 is now > >-stable material, since I suspect it's at least as stable as the 2.1.0 > >release. > > IMHO, we need to get away from the bifurcated view of systems. > 2.2 certainly has not yet proven itself enough to be a replacement > for 2.1. And, at the same time, the head branch is a different > development. > > If we MUST use the "current" tag to refer to any system, 2.2 is an > ideal candidate. I realize that there is the hysterical (historical?) > precedent that calls that "not yet ready for public view" 3.0 system > "current" although "future" might be more appropriate. > > I suggest that the best solution is to drop the status designations and > instead use the release family as the designation. 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, etc. > That way it is clear which list is appropriate for a particular discussion. > > A small change in the majordomo setup could make the change easy for the > users. The mailing list for "stable" and traffic to it could be rerouted > to a new 2.1 list. The "current" list could be duplicated into both > the 2.2 and 3.0 lists. As people learn to direct traffic to a more specific > list, the old lists could be phased out. > > Until someone decides to change something in the mailing lists, I recommend > that things remain as they were. "stable" is 2.1. "current" is anything > more recent. However, "[2.2]" or [3.0]" in the subject would help sort > things. -- ======================================================================== @ Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au @ Play: thyerm@satech.net.au ======================================================================== "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 06:04:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11785 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11778 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 06:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA04521; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:06:15 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199703171406.PAA04521@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Which lists for discussion. In-Reply-To: from Richard Wackerbarth at "Mar 17, 97 06:28:24 am" To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:06:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Richard Wackerbarth who wrote: > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) replies: > > >As mika ruohotie wrote: > > > >> while i post, to me it sounds a nice idea to twiddle the naming like it > >> was suggested... > >> > >> 2.1.x stable > >> 2.2.x current > >> 3.0.x future (experimental?) > > > >Well, we've been referring to the experimental stuff as -current for > >all the time. I'm afraid it's simply too late switching paradigms > >now, since it would confuse the hell out of the users. > > I can also argue that all 2.2 discussion has always been on "current" > and never on "stable". Rather than move the 2.2 discussion, we could > equally move the 3.0 discussion. Well, actually it is quite easy: 2.1.X dead 2.2.X stable 3.x.x current Thats it, like it or not :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 07:03:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13881 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13874 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08096; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:03:26 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703171406.PAA04521@ravenock.cybercity.dk> References: from Richard Wackerbarth at "Mar 17, 97 06:28:24 am" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:03:31 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=AFren?= Schmidt From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Which lists for discussion. Cc: current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id HAA13876 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk S¯ren Schmidt said: >Well, actually it is quite easy: > > 2.1.X dead That's what they said about 2.1.5 :-) > 2.2.X stable Only AFTER it has "proven" itself. > 3.x.x current > >Thats it, like it or not :) That's your (narrow) view. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 07:03:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13912 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13880; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08093; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:03:21 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <332D470C.41C67EA6@satech.net.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:01:20 -0600 To: Matthew Thyer From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Thyer writes: >This is ridiculous. > >FreeBSD 3.X is CURRENT! It is equally correct to say -- 2.2 is the current release. 3.x is currently under development. It all boils down to the semantic interpretation. For those "in the know" we could call the head of the development tree "Rapsody" or "Bliss" or "Danger" or "Development" or "3.0" or any other code name. For those who do not "know", "current" is misleading because they typically want the "CURRENT RELEASE". This really has absolutely no relation to the buildability (or lack thereof) of the head development branch. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 07:23:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14638 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from intercore.com (num1sun.intercore.com [199.181.243.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14625; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (robin@localhost) by intercore.com (8.7.1/8.6.4) id KAA07552; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:13:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703171513.KAA07552@intercore.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:13:13 -0500 From: robin@intercore.com (Robin Cutshaw) To: joe@pavilion.net (Josef Karthauser) Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists In-Reply-To: <19970317134318.30595@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on Mar 17, 1997 13:43:18 +0000 References: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> <199703171304.GAA18505@rocky.mt.sri.com> <19970317134318.30595@pavilion.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Josef Karthauser writes: > > So does mutt (http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/). Also does pgp. > Yep, I'm very happy with mutt. robin -- ---- Robin Cutshaw internet: robin@interlabs.com robin@intercore.com Internet Labs, Inc. BellNet: 404-817-9787 "Time is just one damn thing after another" -- PBS/Nova ---- -- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 07:44:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15840 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2296 (ppp1570.on.sympatico.ca [206.172.249.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15819; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by X2296 (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00281; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:43:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:43:38 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Vanderhoek Reply-To: ac199@freenet.hamilton.on.ca To: Richard Wackerbarth cc: Matthew Thyer , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2 X-Mailer: Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > Matthew Thyer writes: > > >This is ridiculous. > > > >FreeBSD 3.X is CURRENT! > > It is equally correct to say -- > > 2.2 is the current release. > 3.x is currently under development. > > It all boils down to the semantic interpretation. I'm not sure how much interpretation is necessary. There are three concurrent branches. -STABLE, -RELEASE, and -CURRENT. All three of these branches are, in fact, _current_. The problem is introduced when people confuse "current" with -CURRENT. You may attach whatever version numbering you wish. > For those "in the know" we could call the head of the > development tree "Rapsody" or "Bliss" or "Danger" or > "Development" or "3.0" or any other code name. We could then mount a large PR campaign, hype the product immensly, and never actual release it. :-) > For those who do not "know", "current" is misleading > because they typically want the "CURRENT RELEASE". The problem is when people relax their standards and say "current" when they mean "-CURRENT". -- tIM...HOEk Who's been messing with my anti-paranoi shot?! From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 08:01:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16848 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16824; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09612; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:01:13 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:01:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Roome cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Matthew Thyer writes: >This is ridiculous. > >FreeBSD 3.X is CURRENT! how about 2.1-past 2.2-present 3.0-future which actually explains it, but then again, so does just the number, but in order to actually make it all understandable for new folks: 2.1-previous 2.2-current (or simply 2.2-release) 3.0-experimental Someone could even put more information about each release in the readme.txt file at the top of ftp tree for each one. Steve Roome. -- FreeBSD: What other choice is there ? From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 08:52:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19724 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA19714 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id IAA01768 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:52:57 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id LAA04233; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:51:21 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA17312; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:51:20 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA10707; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:51:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:51:18 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703171651.KAA10707@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Stephen Roome on Mon, 17 March: : 2.1-past : 2.2-present : 3.0-future : : 2.1-previous : 2.2-current : (or simply 2.2-release) : 3.0-experimental : The confusion results from the counter-intuitive use of the tag 'current'. It is being used to mean 'current development' but might be confused with 'current release'. The obvious solution is 2.1 stable 2.2 release 3.0 development although I agree with Stephen that renaming stable is also a good idea, I prefer not to introduce that distinct issue until the 'current' tag issue has been clarified. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 10:22:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24872 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24867 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-11.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA12315 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:22:45 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA07952; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:22:09 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970317192048.60297@x14.> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:20:48 +0100 From: Stefan Esser To: Garrett Wollman Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Xpress motherboards? References: <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 In-Reply-To: <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu>; from Garrett Wollman on Fri, Mar 14, 1997 at 02:18:58PM -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 14, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I seem to remember seeing a fix pass by that would cause Intel Xpress > (server division) motherboards to work right. We're trying to get one > to work, but unfortunately the SCSI chips (Adaptec 7xxx) seem to be on > the other PCI bus, which the kernel does not appear to see. WHICH FreeBSD ??? You should know by now, that there are differences between the different versions, and it is quite silly to ask about a feature without giving a hint on the version you are missing it in ... If you ar etalking about a Orion based PPro MB (which might have been useful information as well), then it is supported for more than half a year, but the code has not been integrated into the -stable tree. > Alternatively, when can we have proper PCI support that uses the PCI > BIOS (if present) to do its dirty work? Why should we want to rely on the PCI BIOS ??? Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 10:23:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24912 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24905 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA07363; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:22:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703171822.LAA07363@rover.village.org> To: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Which lists for discussion. Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=AFren?= Schmidt , current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:03:31 CST." References: from Richard Wackerbarth at "Mar 17, 97 06:28:24 am" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:22:59 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message Richard Wackerbarth writes: : S=AFren Schmidt said: : : >Well, actually it is quite easy: : > : > 2.1.X dead : : That's what they said about 2.1.5 :-) : : > 2.2.X stable : Only AFTER it has "proven" itself. : : > 3.x.x current : > : >Thats it, like it or not :) : : That's your (narrow) view. Actually, here's the list 2.0.x dead 2.1.x stagnant 2.2.x stable, by definition 3.x.x, current, by definition. Since the beginning of time (at least 2.0) -stable wsa the last release, by deifnition . -current is the bleeding edge, by definition. Now if 2.2 is reliable and useful, well, that's another matter. However, it is the new -stable, now that it has been released. The security officers only support the current and previous release (which means 2.1.7 and 2.2) in their patches and such. When 2.2.1 comes out, then support for 2.1.7 wuold likely be dropped. 2.1.7 is the end of the line for 2.1.x. There are many bugs that are in it that are fixed in 2.2, including many security flaws that will likely never be fixed. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 10:25:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25124 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.0.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25109; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12224; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:25:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:25:32 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199703171825.NAA12224@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Stefan Esser Cc: Garrett Wollman , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Xpress motherboards? In-Reply-To: <19970317192048.60297@x14.> References: <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <19970317192048.60297@x14.> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> Alternatively, when can we have proper PCI support that uses the PCI >> BIOS (if present) to do its dirty work? > Why should we want to rely on the PCI BIOS ??? 1) Because it actually works. 2) Because it supports half-word and byte configuration accesses. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 10:27:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25259 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25233; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA07384; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:25:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703171825.LAA07384@rover.village.org> To: ac199@freenet.hamilton.on.ca Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Cc: Richard Wackerbarth , Matthew Thyer , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:43:38 EST." References: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:25:54 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message Tim Vanderhoek writes: : I'm not sure how much interpretation is necessary. There : are three concurrent branches. -STABLE, -RELEASE, and : -CURRENT. All three of these branches are, in fact, : _current_. The problem is introduced when people confuse : "current" with -CURRENT. The -stable branch isn't very current wrt bug fixes and the like. There have been long periods of time when it was woefully neglected, and it is time to admit that it is mature, and move on to 2.2. We'll be doing our users a disservice if we keep encouraging them to use old, moldy software. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 10:55:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27175 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27170 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-13.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA12911 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:55:34 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA08104; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:55:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970317195538.40845@x14.> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 19:55:38 +0100 From: Stefan Esser To: Garrett Wollman Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Xpress motherboards? References: <9703141918.AA01611@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <19970317192048.60297@x14.> <199703171825.NAA12224@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65_p2,4-7,10-11,15,18,21-22 In-Reply-To: <199703171825.NAA12224@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from Garrett Wollman on Mon, Mar 17, 1997 at 01:25:32PM -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 17, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > >> Alternatively, when can we have proper PCI support that uses the PCI > >> BIOS (if present) to do its dirty work? > > > Why should we want to rely on the PCI BIOS ??? > > 1) Because it actually works. Really ? On all motherboards ? The 32 bit functions ? > 2) Because it supports half-word and byte configuration accesses. You have any use for them ??? Well, they are trivial to provide. But PCI was designed to work with CPUs that don't offer byte accesses (DEC Alpha). If you want byte accesses, you'll get them. But even you didn't ask for them before ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 11:11:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28055 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28049 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA30288; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:11:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:11:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: John Polstra Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb.1proposed solutions. Dice! In-Reply-To: <199703150043.QAA02781@austin.polstra.com> Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just to cap off this long thread, after John said he'd fix this... apparently he fixed this! Just cvsupped the 2.2 tree and happily watched gdb.1 and gdbint.texinfo (and bfd.texinfo) download into my tree. It looks like this stuff is all kosher again! (I'm sure this is old news since the release has been rolled since I complained...but I just got around to noticing it.) Thanks to the fixit guys, Brian From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 12:40:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03346 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03338 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id OAA10127 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:40:04 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:40:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from fools.ecpnet.com(204.246.64.101) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma010069; Mon, 17 Mar 97 14:39:33 -0600 Received: from localhost (moke@localhost) by fools.ecpnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00336 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:35:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:35:58 -0600 (CST) From: Jimbo Bahooli To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: updated sysinstall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My current system I am on was installed from 2.1.5. I have upgraded by making world, to -current, then back to 2.2 branch. I have a few questions. How do I build a new sysinstall program from the 2.2 sources, and will RELENG_2_2 be the 2.2-"stable" branch now? From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 12:46:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03663 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03647 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (root@asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id VAA27931; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:46:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id VAA15311; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:45:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA00453; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:44:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:44:42 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703160844.JAA00453@plm.xs4all.nl> From: Peter Mutsaers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Wolfgang Helbig Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why /usr/libexec/cc* static? In-Reply-To: <199703151029.LAA01247@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> References: <87n2s5msv9.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> <199703151029.LAA01247@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:29:43 +0100 (MET), Wolfgang Helbig >> said: >> I noted that /usr/libexec/cc* (the C compiler passes) are linked >> statically, and wonder why? cpp and cc itself are linked dynamically, >> so it's not as if one could recompile libc in case something would be >> wrong with libc.so etc. >> WH> Here is the answer: WH> (cvs log Makefile ...) WH> RCS file: /usr/cvsroot/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1/Makefile,v WH> Working file: Makefile WH> [...] WH> head: 1.11 WH> [...] WH> ---------------------------- WH> revision 1.7 WH> date: 1995/10/01 20:16:27; author: davidg; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1 WH> Build cc1 nonshared. This actually results in it consuming 40K *less* disk WH> space and improves compile times by a few percent. WH> ---------------------------- Thanks for pointing this out. Strange. How is it possible that a nonshared cc1 is smaller? I guess the faster compiles are only true when enough memory is available. If paging is going on, than the cc1 executable is not fully cached and using shared code will help (?) -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality ) ^ ( plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | for other people to have From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 13:35:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06058 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from kachina.jetcafe.org (kachina.jetcafe.org [207.155.21.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06035; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1]) by kachina.jetcafe.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29339; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:33:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703172133.NAA29339@kachina.jetcafe.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kachina.jetcafe.org: Host [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:33:51 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: > Dave Hayes writes: > > On a related note...I'd like to add that it would be real helpful to > > those of us who dislike bothering the mountaintop source gurus if the > > mailing lists were archived in such a way as to be threaded and > > readable by date. That way we could peruse entire threads of > > discussion. > I'm using VM (ViewMail) for my mail reader (an Emacs package) and it > threads mail on the fly for me. It's quite nice, and highly > recommended. Sorry, I use MH mode in emacs. ;-) Nor does this help those who hate emacs. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet "If a man does keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer." - Henry David Thoreau From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 14:31:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08851 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2296 (ppp1673.on.sympatico.ca [206.172.249.137]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08845 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by X2296 (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00198; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:29:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Vanderhoek Reply-To: ac199@freenet.hamilton.on.ca To: Warner Losh cc: Richard Wackerbarth , =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=AFren?= Schmidt , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which lists for discussion. In-Reply-To: <199703171822.LAA07363@rover.village.org> Message-ID: X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2 X-Mailer: Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Warner Losh wrote: > Actually, here's the list > 2.0.x dead > 2.1.x stagnant > 2.2.x stable, by definition Arguably, it's not stable until wcarchive runs it. That could make for an interesting definition of the current -stable: whatever wcarchive is running. -- tIM...HOEk Who's been messing with my anti-paranoi shot?! From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 14:44:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09685 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dopey.pathlink.com (dopey.pathlink.com [204.30.237.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09660; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1.pathlink.com (dvl-1.pathlink.com [204.30.237.241]) by dopey.pathlink.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA11830; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:47:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970317154400.0071ed00@dopey.pathlink.com> X-Sender: kachun@dopey.pathlink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:44:00 -0100 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA ahc crashes Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In article <199703060256.TAA15170@narnia.plutotech.com>, you say... >> >>>After we upgraded one of news servers from 2.1.6 to 2.2-GAMMA-970225, it >>>crashed with the following messages about once or twice a day during the >>>past week. Any comment or suggestion? >>> >>>Best regards >> >>You are not running the latest version of 2.2-GAMMA. There have been >>updates to the Adaptec driver since 2/25. Please upgrade and see if >>the problem persists. >>-- >>Justin T. Gibbs >>=========================================== >> FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations >>=========================================== >> > >As I reported that even after I upgraded to 2.2-GAMMA-970302 kernel, the system still crashed, at the same time during INN expireover, with the following messages: > >Mar 7 08:55:14 clark /kernel: ahc0:A:5: no active SCB for reconnecting target - > issuing ABORT >Mar 7 08:55:14 clark /kernel: SAVED_TCL == 0x50 >Mar 7 09:10:45 clark /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. >Mar 7 09:10:45 clark /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 >Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. Al >l rights reserved. >Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: >Mar 7 09:10:46 clark /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2-970302-GAMMA #0: Thu Mar 6 00:54:52 >PST 1997 > > [snip] Hi, Do anyone know if 2.2-RELEASE address the above problem? If not, anything we could do to help fix problem? Any comment will be greatly appreciated. BTW, I tried 970310-GAMMA, it crashed with the ahc error also. Best regards From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 14:56:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10292 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10263 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:56:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00242 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:59:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:58:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2-RELEASE Installation Twits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1) In ABOUT.TXT the mailing lists are referred to as questions@, hackers@ and bugs@freebsd.org. However, in RELNOTES.TXT they are referred to as freebsd-questions@, freebsd-hackers@ and freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org. Even if both are correct consistency would avoid undue user panic! 2) When the installation reached the point where I got the screen Message Congratulations! You have .... I noticed that the [ok] button on the bottom of the screen did not have the '[' coloured (sic - Canadian, eh!) blue, left it looking a little lopsided. 3) The UTC vs LOCALTIME dialog text was VERY confusing. Why not just have the text read "Your CMOS clock is set to ..." and have one button labelled UTC and one labelled LOCALTIME, or radio buttons. I had to read the text very slowly and carefully before I could figure out what was being asked. If I slowed down and read all documentation slowly and carefully who knows how boring life could become! As you can see, pretty minor stuff. Great job! ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 14:59:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10470 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10459 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA21103 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:58:45 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00305; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:21:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970317232156.JV57944@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:21:56 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updated sysinstall References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Jimbo Bahooli on Mar 17, 1997 14:35:58 -0600 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jimbo Bahooli wrote: > How do I build a new sysinstall program from the 2.2 > sources, rm /stand/* /stand/help/* cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall make obj depend all cp /usr/obj/`pwd`/sysinstall /stand cp help/* /stand/help > and will RELENG_2_2 be the 2.2-"stable" branch now? Seems so. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 15:05:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10785 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10764; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08385; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:05:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703172305.QAA08385@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: Kachun Lee cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA ahc crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:44:00 -0100." <1.5.4.32.19970317154400.0071ed00@dopey.pathlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:05:04 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >Do anyone know if 2.2-RELEASE address the above problem? If not, anything we >could do to help fix problem? Any comment will be greatly appreciated. BTW, >I tried 970310-GAMMA, it crashed with the ahc error also. > >Best regards I committed changes to the driver just after 2.2R that may address this problem. Testing is on going and we should know in a few days. Feel free to CVSup the latest bits and try them for yourself. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 15:25:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11897 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11891 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08448; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:24:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703172324.QAA08448@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: ac199@freenet.hamilton.on.ca cc: Warner Losh , Richard Wackerbarth , =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=AFren?= Schmidt , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which lists for discussion. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:29:46 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:24:14 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Warner Losh wrote: > >> Actually, here's the list >> 2.0.x dead >> 2.1.x stagnant >> 2.2.x stable, by definition > >Arguably, it's not stable until wcarchive runs it. Arguably, it's not stable until many large servers with different types of workloads are running it. Wcarchive finds many bugs, but not all. Busy news servers find many bugs in the I/O system than wcarchive doesn't see because of it's large cache and the limits of its 100BT pipe to the net. >-- >tIM...HOEk >Who's been messing with my anti-paranoi shot?! -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 17:15:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20399 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20336; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00858; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:14:57 -0800 (PST) To: Kachun Lee cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, "Justin T. Gibbs" , hostmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA ahc crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:44:00 -0100." <1.5.4.32.19970317154400.0071ed00@dopey.pathlink.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:14:57 -0800 Message-ID: <854.858647697@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Do anyone know if 2.2-RELEASE address the above problem? If not, anything we > could do to help fix problem? Any comment will be greatly appreciated. BTW, > I tried 970310-GAMMA, it crashed with the ahc error also. It does not. Check out: ftp://22gamma.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-970317-GAMMA NOTE: This release is misnamed as -GAMMA and should really be named something which signifies it's a post-2.2-release product. I've fixed it to roll the releases under the name 2.2-YYMMDD-RELENG, starting March 18th at 0500 PST. Anyone fetching one of these "RELENG" snaps will get Justin's updated 2940 driver bits (as well as other fixes which are still flowing into the RELENG_2_2 branch). The machine will still be called "22gamma.freebsd.org" for transition purposes, though I will also ask our hostmaster to create another CNAME called "releng22.freebsd.org" pointing at admin1.calweb.com, since that obviously makes more sense. David, would you do the honors? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 20:49:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01898 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01871; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA07920; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703180450.UAA07920@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Kachun Lee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, hostmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-GAMMA ahc crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:14:57 PST." <854.858647697@time.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:50:03 -0800 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The machine will still be called "22gamma.freebsd.org" for transition >purposes, though I will also ask our hostmaster to create another >CNAME called "releng22.freebsd.org" pointing at admin1.calweb.com, >since that obviously makes more sense. David, would you do the honors? Done. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 20:51:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01996 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01989 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-18.netcom.ca [207.181.94.82]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA26933 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) id AAA08754 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:51:23 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:51:23 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker Message-Id: <199703180451.AAA08754@thelab.hub.org> To: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject: panic: page fault as of March 11th v2.2 Hi... I just submitted the following BUG report...can someone tell me if this has been seen/reported before, and/or fixed already? If not, this is with kernel sources of about 5 days ago :( Don't know what I should "print" off of this, but have the core file still, so please let me know what other info is required, if this hasn't been fixed... >Environment: 2.2 kernel based on March 11th sources >Description: hub# gdb -k kernel.Mar11 vmcore.10 #6 0xf0116459 in soo_read (fp=0xf3d4ff40, uio=0xefbfff38, cred=0xf351c000) at ../../kern/sys_socket.c:70 70 return (soreceive((struct socket *)fp->f_data, (struct mbuf **)0, (kgdb) list 65 struct file *fp; 66 struct uio *uio; 67 struct ucred *cred; 68 { 69 70 return (soreceive((struct socket *)fp->f_data, (struct mbuf **)0, 71 uio, (struct mbuf **)0, (struct mbuf **)0, (int *)0)); 72 } 73 74 /* ARGSUSED */ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 21:13:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02721 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdext.amd.com (amdext.amd.com [139.95.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02712; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdint.amd.com (amdint.amd.com [139.95.250.1]) by amdext.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with ESMTP id VAA13030; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgp.amd.com (sgp.amd.com [101.0.0.64]) by amdint.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with SMTP id VAA14317; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dahlia.amd.com by sgp.amd.com (4.1/AMDSH-1.20) id AA08355; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:13:08 SST Received: by dahlia.amd.com (4.0/AMDC-1.20) id AA03192; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:06:48 SST From: peter@sgp.amd.com (Peter) Message-Id: <9703180506.AA03192@dahlia.amd.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: owner-freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:06:47 WST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 21:19:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02995 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdext.amd.com (amdext.amd.com [139.95.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02988; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdint.amd.com (amdint.amd.com [139.95.250.1]) by amdext.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with ESMTP id VAA13187; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgp.amd.com (sgp.amd.com [101.0.0.64]) by amdint.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with SMTP id VAA14554; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dahlia.amd.com by sgp.amd.com (4.1/AMDSH-1.20) id AA08743; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:18:46 SST Received: by dahlia.amd.com (4.0/AMDC-1.20) id AA03209; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:12:25 SST From: peter@sgp.amd.com (Peter) Message-Id: <9703180512.AA03209@dahlia.amd.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-scsi@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:12:24 WST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 21:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04466 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04461 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA27204 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imp@localhost) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) id WAA01123 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:44:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:44:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199703180544.WAA01123@rover.village.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: MSDOSFS in -current Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does this work yet in -current? So far all my attempts to use it have resulted in the error message /dev/sd2s1 on /dos: Incorrect super block. I just need it read only. The FS in question came out of a Windows machine and I need the windows software to see if I can get Wine working... Thanks much... Warner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 21:48:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04639 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdext.amd.com (amdext.amd.com [139.95.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04627; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdint.amd.com (amdint.amd.com [139.95.250.1]) by amdext.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with ESMTP id VAA14215; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgp.amd.com (sgp.amd.com [101.0.0.64]) by amdint.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with SMTP id VAA15624; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dahlia.amd.com by sgp.amd.com (4.1/AMDSH-1.20) id AA10691; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:47:53 SST Received: by dahlia.amd.com (4.0/AMDC-1.20) id AA03409; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:41:32 SST From: peter@sgp.amd.com (Peter) Message-Id: <9703180541.AA03409@dahlia.amd.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: owner-freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org, owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:41:31 WST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 17 21:48:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04643 for current-outgoing; 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Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdext.amd.com (amdext.amd.com [139.95.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05198; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from amdint.amd.com (amdint.amd.com [139.95.250.1]) by amdext.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with ESMTP id VAA14583; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgp.amd.com (sgp.amd.com [101.0.0.64]) by amdint.amd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AMD) with SMTP id VAA15933; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dahlia.amd.com by sgp.amd.com (4.1/AMDSH-1.20) id AA11343; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:55:59 SST Received: by dahlia.amd.com (4.0/AMDC-1.20) id AA03426; Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:49:38 SST From: peter@sgp.amd.com (Peter) Message-Id: <9703180549.AA03426@dahlia.amd.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 13:49:38 WST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 00:55:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15165 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15143 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA27881 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from imp@localhost) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) id AAA02293 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:34:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:34:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199703180734.AAA02293@rover.village.org> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: MSDOSFS Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Never mind. -t msdos fixed it :-(. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 02:18:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19479 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 02:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19473 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 02:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id KAA23196; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:16:35 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:11:50 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:11:50 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703180544.WAA01123@rover.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Warner Losh From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: MSDOSFS in -current Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Does this work yet in -current? Works for me with a floppy. I can probably try it out with a SCSI disk if you really want to know. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 09:31:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09411 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09400 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA16910 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:36 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA18392 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:16 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id HAA28984; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:21:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970318072158.03484@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:21:58 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current and -stable mailing lists References: <199703170929.BAA21658@kachina.jetcafe.org> <199703171304.GAA18505@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65,1-4,10,14-18 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3134 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Nate Williams: > I'm using VM (ViewMail) for my mail reader (an Emacs package) and it > threads mail on the fly for me. It's quite nice, and highly > recommended. If you don't want to use emacs as a mail reader, check out Mutt (in ports/mail/mutt*). It has many nice features including a good MIME & PGP support, mail threading and much more. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #39: Sun Feb 2 22:12:44 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 11:09:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18412 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-40.netcom.ca [207.181.94.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18403 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA13185 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:09:15 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:09:15 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2 Kernel Unstable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Last week, I took a trip up to Toronto to perform some upgrades on my server...in particular, upgrade the system to a more recent kernel then what I was running. I tried out the 3.0-CURRENT that I was running on my home machine, which was quite stable (pre-lite2 merge) but that panic'd pretty much on reboot, so decided that that wouldn't be smart to run since I'll be doing most of my admin remotely. I then grabbed the src tree from 2.2-GAMMA as a base, and CVSup'd all the new stuff, and upgraded to that, since 2.2-RELEASE was "just around the corner"... ...well, 2.2-RELEASE, as everyone knows, has just been released, so I've once more re-sync'd my source tree so that I have what is considered the -RELEASE source tree online... Well, -RELEASE isn't stable, that's for sure. Something like 3 crash/reboots in the past 12 hours or so?? I've put in a bug report for each of the last two, as there seemed to have been *some* information available from the core, but this recent one doesn't seem to give *any* information. I someone can tell me what information would be useful to grab out of the core files from this, I'd be more then happy to produce it, as I'm holding onto the core files for as long as possible, and/or in relation to the other two bug reports created... hub# gdb -k kernel.Mar18 vmcore.12 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 1b2000 current pcb at 1988e4 panic: page fault #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 243 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 #1 0xf010cf32 in panic (fmt=0xf01773ff "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #2 0xf0177f66 in trap_fatal (frame=0xefbffe94) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:742 #3 0xf0177a54 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbffe94, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:653 #4 0xf017772f in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -272695280, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -272630096, tf_ebp = -272629924, tf_isp = -272630084, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = -65536, tf_ecx = -2147483648, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = -272695296, tf_eip = -266974690, tf_cs = -272695288, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -213745664, tf_ss = 1441792}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 #5 0xf01700a1 in calltrap () #6 0xf01779e8 in trap_pfault (frame=0xefbfffbc, usermode=1) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:633 #7 0xf01775d7 in trap (frame={tf_es = -272695257, tf_ds = -272695257, tf_edi = 45, tf_esi = 165012, tf_ebp = -272640456, tf_isp = -272629788, tf_ebx = -272640412, tf_edx = 106422, tf_ecx = 1019904, tf_eax = 100, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 4, tf_eip = 103250, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -272640472, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:239 #8 0xf01700a1 in calltrap () #9 0x188c2 in ?? () #10 0x187e2 in ?? () #11 0xacb0 in ?? () #12 0x10669 in ?? () #13 0xf6b8 in ?? () #14 0x1010b in ?? () #15 0xa41f in ?? () #16 0xd236 in ?? () #17 0x1096 in ?? () (kgdb) quit From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 12:10:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24317 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org ([207.181.94.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24308 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA13808 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:10:15 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:10:15 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2-RELEASE panics: a theory Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Because of all the recent problems with 2.2-RELEASE's kernel, I decided to plug back in one of my older kernels (from Feb 7th) to see if I had the same problems...so far so good. To test it, I decided to perform the same routine that I was doing that seemed to provoke the previous reboots: cd /usr/src; make cleandir With the Feb 7th kernel, I eventually get: ===> games/caesar rm -f a.out Errs errs mklog caesar caesar.o caesar.6.gz rm -f .depend tags ===> games/canfield ===> games/canfield/canfield fatal process exception: page fault, fault VA = 0x3f689 Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 Now, granted, the above is most likely a memory problem, but, personally, I think a SegFault/core dump is better then a system crash. I'm performed the make cleandir twice so far, and they both died with the above error in /usr/src/games... Did something change that makes a reboot/crash of the system preferable to just SegFaulting, which seems to be what is happening with the 2.2-RELEASE kernel? I think that the SegFault is a much more friendly (kind?) way of handling it... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 15:22:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09796 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09787 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA02281; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:21:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703182321.QAA02281@rover.village.org> To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable Cc: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:09:15 -0400." References: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:21:52 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message The Hermit Hacker writes: : Well, -RELEASE isn't stable, that's for sure. Something like 3 : crash/reboots in the past 12 hours or so?? I've put in a bug report for : each of the last two, as there seemed to have been *some* information : available from the core, but this recent one doesn't seem to give *any* : information. I someone can tell me what information would be useful to : grab out of the core files from this, I'd be more then happy to produce it, : as I'm holding onto the core files for as long as possible, and/or in relation : to the other two bug reports created... I saw something similar last night when I did a sudo reboot while running X. It was for a lock in ufs. I thought I had posted to -hackers, but haven't seen it come back yet. I was runing a -current kernel as of Mar 14 and thought that it was just the post Lite-2 blues. I didn't get a good traceback because gdb didn't have any symbols. When I did gdb's job by hand, it showed the following traceback: #0 0xf0111fb3 in boot () #1 0xf0112272 in panic () #2 0xf01b9956 in trap_fatal () #3 0xf01b9444 in trap_pfault () #4 0xf01b911f in trap () #5 0xf010d660 in lockstatus () #6 0xf01a1bfd in ufs_islocked () + 0x15 #7 0xf0131d78 in vfs_msync () + 0x38 #8 0xf0132704 in sync () + 0x4c #9 0xf0111e7d in boot () + 0x75 #10 0xf0112272 in panic () #11 0xf01b9956 in trap_fatal () #12 0xf01b9444 in trap_pfault () #13 0xf01b911f in trap () #14 0xf010d660 in lockstats () #15 0xf01a1bfd in ufs_islocked () + 0x15 #16 0xf0131d78 in vfs_msync () + 0x38 #17 0xf0132704 in sync () + 0x4c #18 0xf012d58b in vfs_update () + 0x3b #19 0xf0107ab6 in kproc_start () + 0x32 #20 0xf0107a54 in main () So I've rebuilt the kernel -g and rebooted with a Mar 17 kernel. We'll see if this is more stable or not. BTW, is it a bad sign when you have lunch with a -core member and he says you are a lot braver than he for running a post lite-2 merge -current? Warner P.S. No, the same traceback on the screen twice isn't a typo! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 15:23:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09855 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09849 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA02302; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:23:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703182323.QAA02302@rover.village.org> To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: Re: 2.2-RELEASE panics: a theory Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:10:15 -0400." References: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:23:29 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk SCSI or IDE? My system is SCSI. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 15:46:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11497 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns3-33.netcom.ca [207.181.94.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11486 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id TAA15986; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:45:54 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:45:53 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Warner Losh cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.2-RELEASE panics: a theory In-Reply-To: <199703182323.QAA02302@rover.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Warner Losh wrote: > SCSI or IDE? > > My system is SCSI. > SCSI here, running 2x53C810 controllers with 4 drives each... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 16:32:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16193 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16175 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id LAA28501; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:29:18 +1100 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:29:18 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199703190029.LAA28501@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: imp@village.org, scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I was runing a -current kernel as of Mar 14 and thought that it was >just the post Lite-2 blues. I didn't get a good traceback because gdb >didn't have any symbols. When I did gdb's job by hand, it showed the >following traceback: > >#0 0xf0111fb3 in boot () >#1 0xf0112272 in panic () >#2 0xf01b9956 in trap_fatal () >#3 0xf01b9444 in trap_pfault () >#4 0xf01b911f in trap () >#5 0xf010d660 in lockstatus () >#6 0xf01a1bfd in ufs_islocked () + 0x15 >#7 0xf0131d78 in vfs_msync () + 0x38 >#8 0xf0132704 in sync () + 0x4c >#9 0xf0111e7d in boot () + 0x75 >#10 0xf0112272 in panic () >#11 0xf01b9956 in trap_fatal () >#12 0xf01b9444 in trap_pfault () >#13 0xf01b911f in trap () >#14 0xf010d660 in lockstats () >#15 0xf01a1bfd in ufs_islocked () + 0x15 >#16 0xf0131d78 in vfs_msync () + 0x38 >#17 0xf0132704 in sync () + 0x4c >#18 0xf012d58b in vfs_update () + 0x3b >#19 0xf0107ab6 in kproc_start () + 0x32 >#20 0xf0107a54 in main () gdb should do this automatically, but kernel symbol lookup is currently and 2.2ly broken in the backtrace and perhaps elsewhere without full (-g) symbols (due to to the section limits having been broken in all versions and gdb-4.16 being fussier about checking section limits). >P.S. No, the same traceback on the screen twice isn't a typo! Recursive panics became normal with the Lite2 merge. sync() in panic() has never run in the quite the right context, and now that there is a lot more locking in sync(), the panic sync() is likely to stumble over a lock, especially if the first panic was for a lock. Panics aren't much more common than before the merge. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 16:42:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17387 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17373 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17711 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:42:21 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with SMTP id KAA29969 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:20:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id AAA10074 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:22:26 GMT Message-Id: <199703190022.AAA10074@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Status of Objective C in current? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:22:25 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking at porting the GNUstep stuff over to FreeBSD. They have some patches to the Objective C runtime to make it thread safe, plus a few other things. Have these patches been applied to our ObjectiveC? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 16:53:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18401 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-46.netcom.ca [207.181.94.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18373 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA16388; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:52:17 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:52:17 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Bruce Evans cc: imp@village.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable In-Reply-To: <199703190029.LAA28501@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Bruce Evans wrote: > Recursive panics became normal with the Lite2 merge. sync() in panic() > has never run in the quite the right context, and now that there is a > lot more locking in sync(), the panic sync() is likely to stumble over > a lock, especially if the first panic was for a lock. Panics aren't > much more common than before the merge. > Okay, but this doesn't quite explain why a kernel (2.2, not 3.0) from around Feb 7th causes a SegFault, while a kernel generated by the 2.2-RELEASE source tree causes a system reboot... I can live with the SegFault's, and know *why* those are happening, so I'm not suggesting that those are a result of a bug in the kernel...what I am wondering is what changed so that MemFaults(aka SegFaults) are causing a system reboot instead of just causing an error... That would be like a GPF in MicroSloth causing a reboot instead of a GPF, no? From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 17:17:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20698 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20691 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA20485; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:46:06 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703190116.LAA20485@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable In-Reply-To: from The Hermit Hacker at "Mar 18, 97 08:52:17 pm" To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:46:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, imp@village.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Hermit Hacker stands accused of saying: > > Okay, but this doesn't quite explain why a kernel (2.2, not 3.0) > from around Feb 7th causes a SegFault, while a kernel generated by > the 2.2-RELEASE source tree causes a system reboot... It all depends on where the fault occurs; if it's in memory used by a program, the program gets killed. If it's in memory used by the kernel, the kernel gets killed. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 17:22:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21249 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (root@po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21240 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from packet.eng.umd.edu (packet.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.184]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13235; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by packet.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA04407; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:21:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: packet.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:21:45 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@packet.eng.umd.edu To: Stephen Hocking cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of Objective C in current? In-Reply-To: <199703190022.AAA10074@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Stephen Hocking wrote: > > I'm looking at porting the GNUstep stuff over to FreeBSD. They have > some patches to the Objective C runtime to make it thread safe, plus a few > other things. Have these patches been applied to our ObjectiveC? The Objective C I just committed (hours ago) is a Objective C to C converter, and can't be called Objective C due to copyright infringement problems, with the Next product, and maybe with the GNU thing also. David Stes, the author or objc (as he calls it) is very actively developing it at : http://www.can.nl/~stes/ I committed 1.12, but he's up to 1.14 now. It changes _real_ quickly. I will likely update it again this weekend. His effort needs a binary of his objc to compile objc, which was some bother generating, but now that it's made, moving to the newer version is completely trivial (as long as you start at one of the binaries I made as a boot step). The bother was making the initial binaries, the port I made is really trivial, and you don't really need it if you want to see his latest. Get the binary (either via my port or his web page), then get his latest source, configure, and install. Thinking about it, you probably (for the GNU stuff) want to use the GNU compiler for Objective C. I don't know if you'd want to use objc or not, but it's _far, far_ smaller. > > > Stephen > -- > The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. > > "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce > the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know > this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 18:09:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25483 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns3-02.netcom.ca [207.181.94.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25477 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA16667; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:06:23 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:06:23 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Michael Smith cc: bde@zeta.org.au, imp@village.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable In-Reply-To: <199703190116.LAA20485@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > The Hermit Hacker stands accused of saying: > > > > Okay, but this doesn't quite explain why a kernel (2.2, not 3.0) > > from around Feb 7th causes a SegFault, while a kernel generated by > > the 2.2-RELEASE source tree causes a system reboot... > > It all depends on where the fault occurs; if it's in memory used by a > program, the program gets killed. If it's in memory used by the > kernel, the kernel gets killed. > I hate to beat a dead horse here, but so far as I'm able to tell, if I were to plug in the March 18th kernel I created and do a 'make cleandir' on /usr/src, it will cause a panic/reboot. Same thing with the Feb 7th kernel just causes a SegFault...annoying, but liveable. As far as I can tell, this happens *very* consistently... It seems kind of suspicious to me that with the Feb 7th kernel, it consistently *doesn't* reboot where the March 18th one does...I don't know if there is anything in the bug reports I submitted for the March 18th kernel that will help, but they are there, and I still have the appropriate core files... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 18:13:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25698 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25679 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA20865; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:42:38 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703190212.MAA20865@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable In-Reply-To: from The Hermit Hacker at "Mar 18, 97 10:06:23 pm" To: scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:42:37 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, bde@zeta.org.au, imp@village.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Hermit Hacker stands accused of saying: > > > > It all depends on where the fault occurs; if it's in memory used by a > > program, the program gets killed. If it's in memory used by the > > kernel, the kernel gets killed. > > > I hate to beat a dead horse here, but so far as I'm able to tell, > if I were to plug in the March 18th kernel I created and do a 'make cleandir' > on /usr/src, it will cause a panic/reboot. Same thing with the Feb 7th > kernel just causes a SegFault...annoying, but liveable. So the kernels have different memory usage patterns. You still have bad memory, and if your hardware is faulty, all bets are off. > It seems kind of suspicious to me that with the Feb 7th kernel, > it consistently *doesn't* reboot where the March 18th one does...I don't > know if there is anything in the bug reports I submitted for the > March 18th kernel that will help, but they are there, and I still have > the appropriate core files... If the faults are 100% reproducible, with identical stack backtraces each time, then it might be possible to either locate the memory address that's faulty or locate the bug (if it's a bug). -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 18:31:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26655 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-34.netcom.ca [207.181.94.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26650 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA17001; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:30:23 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:30:23 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Michael Smith cc: bde@zeta.org.au, imp@village.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2 Kernel Unstable In-Reply-To: <199703190212.MAA20865@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > If the faults are 100% reproducible, with identical stack backtraces each > time, then it might be possible to either locate the memory address > that's faulty or locate the bug (if it's a bug). > Actually, I wasn't looking at it as so much of a bug, as a change of how the OS was handling acknowledged buggy hardware...I mistakingly thought that maybe something changed between the Feb 7th (approx) code and the current code...but you are most likely right, so I'll just drop it *shrug* From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 22:17:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08858 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [199.184.181.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08853 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from right.PCS (right.pcs. [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA23904 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:22:57 -0600 (CST) Received: (jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id GAA13221; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:18:21 GMT Message-ID: <19970319001821.63996@right.PCS> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:18:21 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Panics on reboot/halt/shutdown with MFS References: <199703131421.GAA28883@freefall.freebsd.org> <19970318081322.59650@klemm.gtn.com> <19970318212528.28756@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <19970318212528.28756@klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Mar 03, 1997 at 09:25:28PM +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 03, 1997 at 09:25:28PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > I noticed that if I used shutdown I got a message that some process > > refused to die. The only process which might cause it was mount_mfs. > > I just disabled mounting an mfs on /tmp and now I can halt cleanly. > > Are you using mfs ??? If so try disabling it. > > Well, yes, I use mfs ... but ... who or what broke it in 2.2.0 and 3.0 ? > I'm using mfs for months and had no trouble. I spent some time digging into this. The symptoms are that the system panics/locks up when executing reboot() when there is a MFS mounted filesystem. (freebsd bugs #3012, #3026) When MFS is not mounted, the system shuts down without a problem. The culprit appears to be this line in spec_strategy(): (*bdevsw[major(ap->a_bp->b_dev)]->d_strategy)(ap->a_bp); major(ap->a_bp->b_dev) == 0xff. d_strategy for this bdevsv[] == 0. #0 spec_strategy (ap=0xefbffe64) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:509 509 { #1 0xf012e2a8 in bwrite (bp=0xf3a23024) at vnode_if.h:1116 1116 return (VCALL((bp)->b_vp, VOFFSET(vop_strategy), &a)); #2 0xf019599e in ffs_sbupdate (mp=0xf1a20c00, waitfor=1) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1057 1057 error = bwrite(bp); #3 0xf019524c in ffs_unmount (mp=0xf1a0d200, mntflags=524288, p=0xf1a20800) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:672 672 ffs_sbupdate(ump, MNT_WAIT); #4 0xf0134f1c in dounmount (mp=0xf1a0d200, flags=524288, p=0xf1a20800) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:309 309 error = VFS_UNMOUNT(mp, flags, p); #5 0xf0132f79 in vfs_unmountall () at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:245 245 error = dounmount(mp, MNT_FORCE, initproc); #6 0xf0114e1f in boot (howto=8) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:217 217 vfs_unmountall(); Perhaps someone with a CVS tree available could look at the recent changes that were made to 2_2_RELENG? This only just started happening. -- Jonathan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 22:36:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00158 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00118 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA23128; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:06:13 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703190636.RAA23128@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Panics on reboot/halt/shutdown with MFS In-Reply-To: <19970319001821.63996@right.PCS> from Jonathan Lemon at "Mar 19, 97 00:18:21 am" To: jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:06:13 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Lemon stands accused of saying: > > I spent some time digging into this. The symptoms are that the system > panics/locks up when executing reboot() when there is a MFS mounted > filesystem. (freebsd bugs #3012, #3026) > > When MFS is not mounted, the system shuts down without a problem. ... > Perhaps someone with a CVS tree available could look at the recent changes > that were made to 2_2_RELENG? This only just started happening. Might this be because the MFS now has a non-NULL mountpoint? There was a change recently to fill in the mountpoint when the MFS' vnode is allocated. > Jonathan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 18 23:33:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08692 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08647 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <18166(3)>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:33:04 PST Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177490>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:32:53 -0800 To: Jonathan Lemon cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panics on reboot/halt/shutdown with MFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Mar 97 22:18:21 PST." <19970319001821.63996@right.PCS> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:32:52 PST From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Mar18.233253pst.177490@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Lemon wrote: >Perhaps someone with a CVS tree available ... Everyone has a CVS tree available -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi ! Bill From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 09:54:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11082 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [199.184.181.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11075 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from right.PCS (right.pcs. [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25616; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:00:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id RAA19567; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:55:11 GMT Message-ID: <19970319115510.54140@right.PCS> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:55:10 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Michael Smith Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Panics on reboot/halt/shutdown with MFS References: <19970319001821.63996@right.PCS> <199703190636.RAA23128@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <199703190636.RAA23128@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Mar 03, 1997 at 05:06:13PM +1030 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 03, 1997 at 05:06:13PM +1030, Michael Smith wrote: > Jonathan Lemon stands accused of saying: > > > > I spent some time digging into this. The symptoms are that the system > > panics/locks up when executing reboot() when there is a MFS mounted > > filesystem. (freebsd bugs #3012, #3026) > > > > When MFS is not mounted, the system shuts down without a problem. > ... > > Perhaps someone with a CVS tree available could look at the recent changes > > that were made to 2_2_RELENG? This only just started happening. > > Might this be because the MFS now has a non-NULL mountpoint? There > was a change recently to fill in the mountpoint when the MFS' vnode > is allocated. I don't think so; I remember that change, and it didn't hang the system when I halted. (This was on my home machine, that gets shut down every night). However, I'll back that change out and see if it still happens. The vnode in question is of v_type == VBLK, and v_tag == VT_NON, where I was expecting a v_tag of VT_MFS. Also, my preliminary inspections show that it doesn't appear to be always happening at the same point. -- Jonathan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 09:57:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11230 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [199.184.181.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11225 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from right.PCS (right.pcs. [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25639; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:02:52 -0600 (CST) Received: (jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id RAA20402; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:57:56 GMT Message-ID: <19970319115755.35873@right.PCS> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:57:55 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Bill Fenner Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panics on reboot/halt/shutdown with MFS References: <19970319001821.63996@right.PCS> <97Mar18.233253pst.177490@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <97Mar18.233253pst.177490@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>; from Bill Fenner on Mar 03, 1997 at 11:32:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mar 03, 1997 at 11:32:52PM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: > Jonathan Lemon wrote: > >Perhaps someone with a CVS tree available ... > > Everyone has a CVS tree available -- http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi ! Yeah; I just remembered that. (working after midnight really makes for logical thinking). I'll note that you also need a copy of the changelogs on your machine to really make any use of it. First, you grep through the changelogs to see _where_ the change is, then go to the specific spot in the CVS tree. -- Jonathan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 10:15:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12010 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12004; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA06813; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:42 -0800 (PST) To: current@freebsd.org cc: asami@freebsd.org Subject: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:41 -0800 Message-ID: <6807.858795341@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry folks, but the ports/packages collection has gotten so huge that it's now displaced the gzip'd CVS repository trees I've been putting on the 1st CDROM. There's just no room left. Despite what all the hackers may think, I feel that the ports/packages still represent better value than the CVS repository so there's no question in my mind about which bits get precedence, the question being more one of "what do we do now for the CVS repository fans?" I can get the repository onto a single CD still, so perhaps the answer is to offer it as a periodically updated companion CDROM? I know that folks getting sources this way would want it more often than the releases (say 4 times a year instead of twice a year), so this makes more sense than pressuring Walnut Creek CDROM into going to a 4 CD set right now. That's expensive, and I'd rather not cross that bridge until we truly need *4* CDs. :-) Comments? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 11:24:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16193 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16188 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id LAA05088 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:25:15 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id OAA06520; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:23:09 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA10746; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:23:08 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA03906; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:23:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:23:06 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703191923.NAA03906@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@freebsd.org Subject: suggested ppp enhancement Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here's a diff, including a documentation patch, to add support for a ppp.linkdown file, symmetric to the ppp.linkup file. cvs diff: Diffing . Index: defs.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/alk/w/repository/FreeBSD/src/usr.sbin/ppp/defs.h,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -c -3 -r1.10 defs.h *** defs.h 1997/02/22 16:10:10 1.10 --- defs.h 1997/03/19 18:52:55 *************** *** 42,55 **** #else #define MODEM_DEV "/dev/tty01" /* name of tty device */ #endif ! #define MODEM_SPEED B38400 /* tty speed */ #define SERVER_PORT 3000 /* Base server port no. */ #define MODEM_CTSRTS TRUE /* Default (true): use CTS/RTS signals */ #define REDIAL_PERIOD 30 /* Default Hold time to redial */ #define CONFFILE "ppp.conf" ! #define LINKFILE "ppp.linkup" #define ETHERFILE "ppp.etherup" #define SECRETFILE "ppp.secret" --- 42,56 ---- #else #define MODEM_DEV "/dev/tty01" /* name of tty device */ #endif ! #define MODEM_SPEED B115200 /* tty speed */ #define SERVER_PORT 3000 /* Base server port no. */ #define MODEM_CTSRTS TRUE /* Default (true): use CTS/RTS signals */ #define REDIAL_PERIOD 30 /* Default Hold time to redial */ #define CONFFILE "ppp.conf" ! #define LINKUPFILE "ppp.linkup" ! #define LINKDOWNFILE "ppp.linkdown" #define ETHERFILE "ppp.etherup" #define SECRETFILE "ppp.secret" Index: os.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/alk/w/repository/FreeBSD/src/usr.sbin/ppp/os.c,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -c -3 -r1.14 os.c *** os.c 1997/02/25 14:05:06 1.14 --- os.c 1997/03/19 18:57:45 *************** *** 193,204 **** s = (char *)inet_ntoa(peer_addr); LogPrintf(LOG_LINK_BIT|LOG_LCP_BIT, "OsLinkup: %s\n", s); ! if (SelectSystem(inet_ntoa(IpcpInfo.want_ipaddr), LINKFILE) < 0) { if (dstsystem) { ! if (SelectSystem(dstsystem, LINKFILE) < 0) ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKFILE); } else ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKFILE); } linkup = 1; } --- 193,204 ---- s = (char *)inet_ntoa(peer_addr); LogPrintf(LOG_LINK_BIT|LOG_LCP_BIT, "OsLinkup: %s\n", s); ! if (SelectSystem(inet_ntoa(IpcpInfo.want_ipaddr), LINKUPFILE) < 0) { if (dstsystem) { ! if (SelectSystem(dstsystem, LINKUPFILE) < 0) ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKUPFILE); } else ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKUPFILE); } linkup = 1; } *************** *** 210,220 **** char *s; if (linkup) { ! s = (char *)inet_ntoa(peer_addr); ! LogPrintf(LOG_LINK_BIT|LOG_LCP_BIT, "OsLinkdown: %s\n", s); ! if (!(mode & MODE_AUTO)) ! DeleteIfRoutes(0); ! linkup = 0; } } --- 210,227 ---- char *s; if (linkup) { ! s = (char *)inet_ntoa(peer_addr); ! LogPrintf(LOG_LINK_BIT|LOG_LCP_BIT, "OsLinkdown: %s\n", s); ! if (!(mode & MODE_AUTO)) ! DeleteIfRoutes(0); ! linkup = 0; ! if (SelectSystem(s, LINKDOWNFILE) < 0) { ! if (dstsystem) { ! if (SelectSystem(dstsystem, LINKDOWNFILE) < 0) ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKDOWNFILE); ! } else ! SelectSystem("MYADDR", LINKDOWNFILE); ! } } } Index: ppp.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/alk/w/repository/FreeBSD/src/usr.sbin/ppp/ppp.8,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -c -3 -r1.26 ppp.8 *** ppp.8 1997/03/13 21:39:41 1.26 --- ppp.8 1997/03/19 18:54:53 *************** *** 308,314 **** .Em PPP connection is established. See the provided example which adds a default route. The string HISADDR represents the IP address of the ! remote peer. .Sh BACKGROUND DIALING --- 308,317 ---- .Em PPP connection is established. See the provided example which adds a default route. The string HISADDR represents the IP address of the ! remote peer. Similarly, when a connection is closed, the contents of the ! .Pa /etc/ppp/ppp.linkdown ! file are executed. ! .Sh BACKGROUND DIALING *************** *** 870,888 **** .Sh FILES .Nm ! refers to three files: ppp.conf, ppp.linkup and ppp.secret. These files are placed in .Pa /etc/ppp , but the user can create his own files under his $HOME directory as .Pa .ppp.conf , ! .Pa .ppp.linkup and .Pa .ppp.secret. .Nm will always try to consult the user's personal setup first. .Bl -tag -width flag ! .Pa $HOME/ppp/.ppp.[conf|linkup|secret] User dependent configuration files. .Pa /etc/ppp/ppp.conf --- 873,892 ---- .Sh FILES .Nm ! refers to four files: ppp.conf, ppp.linkup, ppp.linkdown, and ppp.secret. These files are placed in .Pa /etc/ppp , but the user can create his own files under his $HOME directory as .Pa .ppp.conf , ! .Pa .ppp.linkup , ! .Pa .ppp.linkdown and .Pa .ppp.secret. .Nm will always try to consult the user's personal setup first. .Bl -tag -width flag ! .Pa $HOME/ppp/.ppp.[conf|linkup|linkdown|secret] User dependent configuration files. .Pa /etc/ppp/ppp.conf *************** *** 895,900 **** --- 899,909 ---- A file to check when .Nm establishes a network level connection. + + .Pa /etc/ppp/ppp.linkdown + A file to check when + .Nm + closes a network level connection. .Pa /var/log/ppp.log Logging and debugging information file. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 11:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17255 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pdx1.world.net (pdx1.world.net [192.243.32.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17249 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: proff@suburbia.net Received: from suburbia.net (suburbia.net [203.4.184.1]) by pdx1.world.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15257 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17069 invoked by uid 110); 19 Mar 1997 14:27:35 -0000 Date: 19 Mar 1997 14:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19970319142735.17068.qmail@suburbia.net> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: file sizes Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ls -l /usr/share/mk total 233964914 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 9563 Mar 4 11:54 bsd.README -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2255 Mar 4 11:54 bsd.dep.mk -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3187 Mar 4 11:54 bsd.doc.mk -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3767 Mar 4 11:54 bsd.info.mk -r------wx 255 1671180 1671192 71777085445571048 Aug 24 09:30 bsd.kern.mk -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 5019 Mar 4 11:54 bsd.kmod.mk -r-x------ 153 1671179 1671188 62769757339719940 Aug 24 09:31 bsd.lib.mk -r-----rw- 255 1671174 1671192 71776119077931355 Aug 24 09:28 bsd.libnames.mk -rwxrwxr-- 255 1671174 1671169 71776393955839943 Aug 24 09:31 bsd.man.mk -r--r-xrw- 255 1671173 1671168 71776316646428358 Aug 24 09:32 bsd.obj.mk -r---w---- 255 1671192 1671171 71776273696754949 Aug 24 09:31 bsd.own.mk -rw---xrw- 255 1671185 1671188 71777197114771596 Aug 24 09:28 bsd.port.mk -rwxr-x--x 255 1671173 1671175 71776720373393152 Feb 11 00:17 bsd.port.mk.bak -r----xrwx 255 1671193 1671183 71776381070936323 Aug 24 09:30 bsd.port.subdir.mk -r--r---wx 255 1671173 1671177 71776419725643145 Aug 24 09:29 bsd.prog.mk -r-xrwxrw- 255 1671185 1671177 71776986661326219 Aug 24 09:28 bsd.sgml.mk -r-----rw- 255 1671193 1671179 71777115510342911 Aug 24 09:29 bsd.subdir.mk -rwxr-x--x 255 1671173 1671169 71776320941395959 Aug 24 09:30 sys.mk -r--r--rw- 255 1671180 1671170 71776716078385164 Feb 11 11:34 sys.mk.bak Ewww. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 11:48:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17653 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from plaut.de (inet.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17642 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA26184; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:48:45 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19685; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:48:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:48:46 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Reifenberger To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... In-Reply-To: <6807.858795341@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ... > I can get the repository onto a single CD still, so perhaps the answer > is to offer it as a periodically updated companion CDROM? I know that > folks getting sources this way would want it more often than the > releases (say 4 times a year instead of twice a year), so this makes > more sense than pressuring Walnut Creek CDROM into going to a 4 CD set > right now. That's expensive, and I'd rather not cross that bridge > until we truly need *4* CDs. :-) > > Comments? Make a separate "Developers Edition" with all the Source-Bits on it. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 12:08:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18914 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bofh.cybercity.dk (bofh.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18903; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (phk.cybercity.dk [195.8.133.247]) by bofh.cybercity.dk (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24744; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:10:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA14069; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:12:02 +0100 (MET) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org, asami@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:41 PST." <6807.858795341@time.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:12:02 +0100 Message-ID: <14067.858802322@critter.dk.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Despite what all the hackers may think, I feel that the ports/packages >still represent better value than the CVS repository so there's no >question in my mind about which bits get precedence, the question >being more one of "what do we do now for the CVS repository fans?" More SNAP cd's ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 12:38:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20486 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20356; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA07238; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:34:31 -0800 (PST) To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: current@freebsd.org, asami@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:12:02 +0100." <14067.858802322@critter.dk.tfs.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:34:31 -0800 Message-ID: <7234.858803671@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Despite what all the hackers may think, I feel that the ports/packages > >still represent better value than the CVS repository so there's no > >question in my mind about which bits get precedence, the question > >being more one of "what do we do now for the CVS repository fans?" > > More SNAP cd's ? If I don't have to put ports or packages on the SNAP CDs, sure! :-) Remember, the SNAPs are only a single CD (and priced $10 less than the others). Would people prefer the SNAPs to become full CDs? They'd probably have to go up to the $39.95/$25.94 (sub) price if I had to do 2 of them each time, but I could make one the SNAP/package CD and the other the unpacked CVS tree, unpacked src and unpacked ports (I'd have room for all). Would there be interest in something like that? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 13:39:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13821 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13734 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA00936; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:36:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: ahc problems with 2.2+ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm using 2.2 (plus all post-release patches, cvsup'ped today) on an Adaptec 3940UW I have all allowmemio, tagenable, and scbpaging turned on. Every few hours of operation I get: sd4(ahc0:4:0): Unknown SCSIINT. Status = 0x0 continously repeating on the console. At this point, the system is effectively dead. After a few minutes of that, it reboots. What's a likely suspect here? scbpaging? Tom From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 14:00:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15462 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15301 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26163; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:00:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703192200.OAA26163@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:34:31 PST." <7234.858803671@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:00:25 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It will be nice to have all three: 1. FreeBSD distribution 2. Ports/packages 3. CVS And I am willing to pay the small fee. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > >Despite what all the hackers may think, I feel that the ports/packages > > >still represent better value than the CVS repository so there's no > > >question in my mind about which bits get precedence, the question > > >being more one of "what do we do now for the CVS repository fans?" > > > > More SNAP cd's ? > > If I don't have to put ports or packages on the SNAP CDs, sure! :-) > Remember, the SNAPs are only a single CD (and priced $10 less than the > others). > > Would people prefer the SNAPs to become full CDs? They'd probably > have to go up to the $39.95/$25.94 (sub) price if I had to do 2 of > them each time, but I could make one the SNAP/package CD and the other > the unpacked CVS tree, unpacked src and unpacked ports (I'd have room > for all). > > Would there be interest in something like that? > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 14:56:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28538 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from white.dogwood.com (dave@white.dogwood.com [140.174.96.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28528; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dave@localhost) by white.dogwood.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13652; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:56:16 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Cornejo Message-Id: <199703192256.OAA13652@white.dogwood.com> Subject: Re: CVS repository pushed off the FreeBSD CD distribution... In-Reply-To: <14067.858802322@critter.dk.tfs.com> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Mar 19, 97 09:12:02 pm" To: phk@critter.dk.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:56:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@freebsd.org, asami@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >Despite what all the hackers may think, I feel that the ports/packages > >still represent better value than the CVS repository so there's no > >question in my mind about which bits get precedence, the question > >being more one of "what do we do now for the CVS repository fans?" > > More SNAP cd's ? > How about a developers supplemental CD - you could also pitch in snapshots of all the side projects that wanted to (like the bt848 stuff) and experimental things (the SMP tree?)... -- Dave Cornejo - Dogwood Media, Fremont, California From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 16:06:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03346 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03341 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00504 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:08:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:08:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R suggestion - replace banner's #0 with CTM level id Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Whenever FreeBSD boots and at each logon it displays its banner: FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE (KERNELNAME) #0: ...timestamp... Now in my (admittedly limited) experience the #0 seems to always stay the same. Why not use that slot to display the source/CTM level in place when the kernel is compiled? Would this not provide some potentially useful information when people are asking questions? Admittedly not fool proof since they could manually change source files and not change the info in /usr/src/.ctm_status, but something. ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 16:28:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05335 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com (USR1-1.detnet.com [207.113.12.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05326 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07918 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:28:49 -0600 (CST) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199703200028.SAA07918@main.gbdata.com> Subject: threads in 970209-SNAP To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:28:48 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm getting the following error when I try to compile libc_r. main:gclarkii# make cc -O2 -m486 -fno-strength-reduce -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/is atty.c -o isatty.o In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/isatty.c:42: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/pthread_private.h:524: parse error before `0' *** Error code 1 Any ideas? Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 16:29:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05409 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05368 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00535 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:31:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:31:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R: Starting with CTM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I made my first attempt (on 2.1.7) to create an updated source tree via CTM (ftp'ing the delta's) I found that even though I had installed a complete source tree during my initial setup I could not use that tree as a base for CTM deltas. The file .ctm_status was not present in /usr/src and I could not find any clues as how to manually create one that would accurately reflect the level of the source tree installed from CDROM. Thus I mv'ed /usr/src to something else (after discovering the CTM base delta could not be applied against an existing tree) and applied the base and deltas and proceeded from there. When I downloaded the 2.2R release I deliberately did NOT get the src distribution as I expected I would have to download as much again in a base delta. Instead I downloaded the base delta and all subsequent deltas (up to 210 at the moment), built the tree and compiled just fine (at least after remembering to link /usr/src to my 2.2 directory). Whew. Now the question! Did I correctly conclude that downloading the 2.2R src distribution was a waste of my time? i.e. it would have still lacked the .ctm_status file or equivalent information that would allow me to use it as a base delta? And if my conclusion was correct, WHY? Why not just provide the .ctm_status file? Surely the src distribution corresponds to a specific level available from CTM? What am I missing? ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 16:38:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05950 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05945 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) id QAA19767; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:36:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:36:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703200036.QAA19767@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: proff@suburbia.net CC: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970319142735.17068.qmail@suburbia.net> (proff@suburbia.net) Subject: Re: file sizes From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * ls -l /usr/share/mk : * -r------wx 255 1671180 1671192 71777085445571048 Aug 24 09:30 bsd.kern.mk : Seems like this directory is quite messed up. Try "ls -lo" too, you'll probably see a lot of undeletable files. This is a hardware or disk driver problem. I saw something like this when one of my disks went south and totally confused the kernel, which managed to scramble the other (healthy) disk. You'll have several "bad inodes" and stuff, so just mv them all into a separate directory and run fsck manually in single-user mode. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 16:43:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA06420 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from malibu.cst.com.au (malibu.cst.com.au [203.61.252.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06379 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from malibu.cst.com.au (malibu.cst.com.au [203.61.252.131]) by malibu.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA16110; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:34:14 +1100 Message-ID: <33308605.59E2B600@cst.com.au> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:34:13 +1100 From: Tim Liddelow Organization: Creative Software Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2940 driver bug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given a machine to install *BSD on, and the SCSI controller just happens to be a 2940. Am I better off going with 2.1.7.1 or 2.2-RELEASE ? Thanks Tim Liddelow From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:12:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08535 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08512 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA08888; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:12:00 -0800 (PST) To: Tim Liddelow cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:34:13 +1100." <33308605.59E2B600@cst.com.au> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:12:00 -0800 Message-ID: <8885.858820320@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your > announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given No, I'm afraid not. That's going to have to wait for 2.2.x (though you're welcome to CTM/CVSup yourself up to the end of the RELENG_2_2 branch to get those fixes now). Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:19:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09204 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gbdata.com (USR1-1.detnet.com [207.113.12.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09186 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA11207; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:19:39 -0600 (CST) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199703200119.TAA11207@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: threads in 970209-SNAP To: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com (Gary Clark II) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:19:38 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703200028.SAA07918@main.gbdata.com> from Gary Clark II at "Mar 19, 97 06:28:48 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Follow up to myself: > > I'm getting the following error when I try to compile libc_r. > > main:gclarkii# make > cc -O2 -m486 -fno-strength-reduce -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE > -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/is > atty.c -o isatty.o > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/isatty.c:42: > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/pthread_private.h:524: parse error before `0' > *** Error code 1 > > Any ideas? Ok, I found the anwser. I hate that search engine!!!!.....:) I had to look through freefalls' archives by hand... do a 'make install' in /usr/src/include. (I had done a make world but....) Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:35:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10784 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10772 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29198; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:35:17 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:34:36 -0600 To: "Kenneth R. Westerback" From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: 2.2R: Starting with CTM Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 6:31 PM -0600 3/19/97, Kenneth R. Westerback wrote: >When I made my first attempt (on 2.1.7) to create an updated source tree >via CTM (ftp'ing the delta's) I found that even though I had installed a >complete source tree during my initial setup I could not use that tree as >a base for CTM deltas. The file .ctm_status was not present in /usr/src >and I could not find any clues as how to manually create one that would >accurately reflect the level of the source tree installed from CDROM. > >Thus I mv'ed /usr/src to something else (after discovering the CTM base >delta could not be applied against an existing tree) and applied the base >and deltas and proceeded from there. > >When I downloaded the 2.2R release I deliberately did NOT get the src >distribution as I expected I would have to download as much again in a >base delta. Instead I downloaded the base delta and all subsequent deltas >(up to 210 at the moment), built the tree and compiled just fine (at least >after remembering to link /usr/src to my 2.2 directory). > >Whew. Now the question! > >Did I correctly conclude that downloading the 2.2R src distribution was a >waste of my time? i.e. it would have still lacked the .ctm_status file or >equivalent information that would allow me to use it as a base delta? > >And if my conclusion was correct, WHY? Why not just provide the >.ctm_status file? Surely the src distribution corresponds to a >specific level available from CTM? What am I missing? You are missing reading the new README file that accompanies the ctm deltas. I'm one step ahead of you. Rather than generate a base delta at 209 which IS 2.2-RELEASE, I froze things at 208 and then generated 209 directly from the src tarballs. All you have to do is install ALL (except the security ones) of the src tarballs and add the .ctm_status file. Instructions are in the ftp directory along with all the deltas. Then grab 210 and you will be up to date. What you did is also fine. All roads lead to 210 (and beyond) :-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:41:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11541 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from werple.net.au (melb.werple.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11481 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16185 invoked by uid 5); 20 Mar 1997 01:41:08 -0000 Received: (from jb@localhost) by freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08361; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:20:30 +1100 (EST) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199703200120.MAA08361@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: threads in 970209-SNAP To: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com (Gary Clark II) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:20:29 +1100 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199703200028.SAA07918@main.gbdata.com> from Gary Clark II at "Mar 19, 97 06:28:48 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Clark II wrote: > main:gclarkii# make > cc -O2 -m486 -fno-strength-reduce -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE > -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/is > atty.c -o isatty.o > In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/isatty.c:42: > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/pthread_private.h:524: parse error before `0' > *** Error code 1 > > Any ideas? Look in pthread.h and check if pthread_condattr_default is within the same #ifndef PTHREAD_KERNEL that pthread_attr_default is in. If not, then move the #define so that it is. Regards, -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@netbsd.org CIMlogic Pty Ltd, 119 Cecil Street, South Melbourne Vic 3205, Australia Tel +61 3 9690 6900 Fax +61 3 9690 6650 Mob +61 418 353 137 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:48:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12227 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from eyelab.psy.msu.edu (eyelab.psy.msu.edu [35.8.64.179]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12206 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from logrus (pm170-10.dialip.mich.net [35.9.15.171]) by eyelab.psy.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19474 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:48:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970319204640.006a4338@eyelab.msu.edu> X-Sender: root@eyelab.msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:46:41 -0500 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Gary Schrock Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 05:12 PM 3/19/97 -0800, you wrote: >> Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your >> announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given > >No, I'm afraid not. That's going to have to wait for 2.2.x >(though you're welcome to CTM/CVSup yourself up to the end >of the RELENG_2_2 branch to get those fixes now). Out of curiosity, what exactly is the symptoms of this bug? We've been having problems with a machine that has a 2940 in it, and I'm wondering if this might fix it (intermittant random reboots). Gary Schrock root@eyelab.msu.edu From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 17:53:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12783 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12768 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA26146; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:41:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:47:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Tim Liddelow cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug In-Reply-To: <33308605.59E2B600@cst.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Tim Liddelow wrote: > Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your > announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given > a machine to install *BSD on, and the SCSI controller just > happens to be a 2940. Am I better off going with 2.1.7.1 or > 2.2-RELEASE ? > > Thanks > Tim Liddelow If you want to install a pre-built release, installing 2.1.7.1-RELEASE If you don't mind pulling the kerenel sources down for 2.2+ (basically 2.2-RELEASE + later patches), and making a new kernel, go ahead and install 2.2. 2.2+ has the same driver as 2.1.7.1-RELEASE The ahc driver used by the 2940, is a moving target. I have an oldish pre 2.1.7 system with a 2940 with an uptime of 140 days. I don't use any of the performance ehancements though. But I have a 2.2 system with the newest ahc driver dies with a SCSI error every day (using a 3940UW though). Tom From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 18:00:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13578 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from veda.is (ubiq.veda.is [193.4.230.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13557 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from adam@localhost) by veda.is (8.8.4/8.7.3) id CAA05525; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:18:35 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:18:35 GMT From: Adam David Message-Id: <199703200218.CAA05525@veda.is> To: krw@tcn.NET (Kenneth R. Westerback) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2R suggestion - replace banner's #0 with CTM level id Newsgroups: list.freebsd.current References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE (KERNELNAME) #0: ...timestamp... >Now in my (admittedly limited) experience the #0 seems to always stay the >same. It is incremented when you rebuild without nuking the compile directory. >Why not use that slot to display the source/CTM level in place when >the kernel is compiled? Would this not provide some potentially useful >information when people are asking questions? Tricky to specify accurately in a meaningful way. CTM is a distribution method with a serial number, CVS does things differently (checkout date, and branched serial numbers for each file). >Admittedly not fool proof >since they could manually change source files and not change the info in >/usr/src/.ctm_status, but something. Perhaps it would make sense to show the source baseline date and the build date, but there would still be no direct indication of divergence from the baseline. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 19:07:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA19833 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19825 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12972; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:07:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703200307.UAA12972@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Tom Samplonius cc: Tim Liddelow , jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:47:18 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:07:24 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Tim Liddelow wrote: > >> Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your >> announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given >> a machine to install *BSD on, and the SCSI controller just >> happens to be a 2940. Am I better off going with 2.1.7.1 or >> 2.2-RELEASE ? >> >> Thanks >> Tim Liddelow > > If you want to install a pre-built release, installing 2.1.7.1-RELEASE > > If you don't mind pulling the kerenel sources down for 2.2+ (basically >2.2-RELEASE + later patches), and making a new kernel, go ahead and >install 2.2. 2.2+ has the same driver as 2.1.7.1-RELEASE > > The ahc driver used by the 2940, is a moving target. I have an oldish >pre 2.1.7 system with a 2940 with an uptime of 140 days. I don't use any >of the performance ehancements though. But I have a 2.2 system with the >newest ahc driver dies with a SCSI error every day (using a 3940UW >though). > >Tom I believe that if you don't use SCB paging, you will find the current driver hard to break. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 19:40:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21984 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dopey.pathlink.com (dopey.pathlink.com [204.30.237.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21979 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dvl-1.pathlink.com (dvl-1.pathlink.com [204.30.237.241]) by dopey.pathlink.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA15617; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:44:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970319204030.006dd50c@dopey.pathlink.com> X-Sender: kachun@dopey.pathlink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:40:30 -0100 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: ahc crashes Cc: gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com, jkh@time.cdrom.com Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <5gkmcd$h1s@newsrv.zippo.com>, gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com says... > >>Hi, >> >>Do anyone know if 2.2-RELEASE address the above problem? If not, anything we >>could do to help fix problem? Any comment will be greatly appreciated. BTW, >>I tried 970310-GAMMA, it crashed with the ahc error also. >> >>Best regards > >I committed changes to the driver just after 2.2R that may address this >problem. Testing is on going and we should know in a few days. Feel free >to CVSup the latest bits and try them for yourself. > [snip] Thank you for trying, but sorry to say the 970318 kernel crashed also. Actually, even more often - every 3-4 hours... the 2.2-REL only during INN expireover. And, when the system crashed, no log messages made into /var/log/messages. I caught the reboot once and it said something about ahc... timeout... the screen erase before I could write it down. Please keep me inform about the next rev... I am not giving up and won't mind keep trying... but back to 2.1.6 in the meantime. Best regards From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 19:51:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22377 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22371 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13174; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:51:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703200351.UAA13174@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Kachun Lee cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, gibbs@plutotech.com, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:40:30 -0100." <1.5.4.32.19970319204030.006dd50c@dopey.pathlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:51:50 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Which AHC options are you using in your kernel config? >Thank you for trying, but sorry to say the 970318 kernel crashed also. >Actually, even more often - every 3-4 hours... the 2.2-REL only during INN >expireover. And, when the system crashed, no log messages made into >/var/log/messages. I caught the reboot once and it said something about >ahc... timeout... the screen erase before I could write it down. > >Please keep me inform about the next rev... I am not giving up and won't >mind keep trying... but back to 2.1.6 in the meantime. > >Best regards > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 20:12:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23518 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin3.calweb.com (cslye@admin1.calweb.com [207.211.80.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23512 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cslye@localhost) by admin3.calweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA17149; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:09:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703200409.UAA17149@admin3.calweb.com> Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:09:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Cameron Slye" Cc: tim@cst.com.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Tom Samplonius" at Mar 19, 97 05:47:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > pre 2.1.7 system with a 2940 with an uptime of 140 days. I don't use any > of the performance ehancements though. But I have a 2.2 system with the > newest ahc driver dies with a SCSI error every day (using a 3940UW > though). I was having this same problem on a 2.2 GAMMA system here.. 4 IBM drives, on a 3940. SCSI bus reset errors.. I have since replaced the controller and drives with a 9gig on a 2940 till I could fix it. This machine is now using 2.2-970318-RELENG. I will put the 3940 and the 4 drives back in the morning.. Good I was wondering how much fun it would be to find the bad drive :) Hope this is the problem. -Cameron Slye From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 20:26:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24208 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24199 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA02110; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:20:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:26:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Cameron Slye cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug In-Reply-To: <199703200409.UAA17149@admin3.calweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Cameron Slye wrote: > > pre 2.1.7 system with a 2940 with an uptime of 140 days. I don't use any > > of the performance ehancements though. But I have a 2.2 system with the > > newest ahc driver dies with a SCSI error every day (using a 3940UW > > though). > > I was having this same problem on a 2.2 GAMMA system here.. 4 IBM drives, The ahc driver was changed *alot* between 2.2 GAMMA and now. But, don't use SCB paging. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 21:53:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27582 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27575 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21783; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:53:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Tom Samplonius cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: ahc problems with 2.2+ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't know specifically about your case, but on one motherboard I had, turning off the allow_memio fixed my problems completely. Apparently on the 3940, some MB BIOS's don't initialize the PCI bridge correctly. Or ast least, I think that was a simplification of what Justin once told me. In any case, since I stopped using MEMIO for this particular MB, it's worked fine. On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > I'm using 2.2 (plus all post-release patches, cvsup'ped today) on an > Adaptec 3940UW > > I have all allowmemio, tagenable, and scbpaging turned on. > > Every few hours of operation I get: > > sd4(ahc0:4:0): Unknown SCSIINT. Status = 0x0 > > > continously repeating on the console. At this point, the system is > effectively dead. After a few minutes of that, it reboots. > > What's a likely suspect here? scbpaging? > > Tom > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 21:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27614 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (slipper18a.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.85]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27604 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (zeus.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06747 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:54:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: jack X-Sender: jack@zeus.xtalwind.net To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: <199703200351.UAA13174@narnia.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I you can take some good news on this matter, I've been running the following, with the `pre-fixed' 2.2R source, for about 48 hours with one intentional reboot. ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:19 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST31055W 0528" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:4:0): "CONNER CTT8000-S 1.17" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x45, drive empty The Adaptec is set to negotiate wide with all ids. My kernel config includes, options AHC_TAGENABLE options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO Granted it's not getting the workout of a news server but the SCSI HW is all new so I've been playing. :-) I've dumped the drive twice and used the tape to transfer a couple of hundred megs from IDE to the drive and about 300 from work onto the IDE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 19 22:52:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29346 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29339 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA00973; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:53:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703200653.WAA00973@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jaye Mathisen cc: Tom Samplonius , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: ahc problems with 2.2+ In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:53:39 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:53:14 -0800 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I don't know specifically about your case, but on one motherboard I had, >turning off the allow_memio fixed my problems completely. Apparently on >the 3940, some MB BIOS's don't initialize the PCI bridge correctly. Or >ast least, I think that was a simplification of what Justin once told me. > >In any case, since I stopped using MEMIO for this particular MB, it's >worked fine. ...and if I _don't_ turn on AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO on wcarchive, the machine dies regularly with a PCI bus parity error during the PIO instruction. This seems to happen on some (especially P6) machines. With Justin's latest stuff, wcarchive has been quite stable. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 00:17:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA02020 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rr.zippo.com (rr.pathlink.com [204.30.237.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA02015 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from data.zippo.com (data.zippo.com [204.30.237.162]) by rr.zippo.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14407; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:21:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:21:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703200821.AAA14407@rr.zippo.com> X-Sender: kachun@dopey.pathlink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" From: Kachun Lee Subject: Re: ahc crashes Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:51 PM 3/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >Which AHC options are you using in your kernel config? I did not use any... should I try some? I am using the Intel Venus Pro 200 MB and 3940W - with 3 Seagate 4G on 1 channel and 6 4G on the other. >>Thank you for trying, but sorry to say the 970318 kernel crashed also. >>Actually, even more often - every 3-4 hours... the 2.2-REL only during INN >>expireover. And, when the system crashed, no log messages made into >>/var/log/messages. I caught the reboot once and it said something about >>ahc... timeout... the screen erase before I could write it down. >> [snip] Thanks for the help From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 03:46:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA09063 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA09057; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 03:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA07174 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:27:08 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 20 Mar 97 14:27:07 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01597; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:10:13 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:10:11 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Bruce Evans , FreeBSD-current Subject: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Soren, when I move my mouse, my screen trashed a bit causing unpleasant visual effects, something (rarely) it happens even without any activity (I have distructive cursor). I suspect it will be fixed if retrace wait will be framed into disable_intr/enable_intr, but since I am not shure, I don't experiment with it. I remember that some discussion happens on this subject, but not remember its result. What possible effects of this change? I think Diamond can't be treated as "obsolete" since it is one of the most advanced cards at this moment, so we need to do something with this issue. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 04:07:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA09727 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09720; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA25662; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:07:25 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199703201207.NAA25662@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: from "[______ ______]" at "Mar 20, 97 02:10:11 pm" To: ache@nagual.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:07:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@freebsd.org, bde@zeta.org.au, current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to [______ ______] who wrote: > Soren, when I move my mouse, my screen trashed a bit causing unpleasant > visual effects, something (rarely) it happens even without any activity > (I have distructive cursor). You mean the display jitters ?? > I suspect it will be fixed if retrace wait will be framed into > disable_intr/enable_intr, but since I am not shure, I don't experiment > with it. I remember that some discussion happens on this subject, but not > remember its result. What possible effects of this change? If you do this, you will disable interrupts for between 1/60s to 1/70s which is something you do NOT want to do if you run fx a serial port at a resonable high speed. > I think Diamond can't be treated as "obsolete" since it is one of the most > advanced cards at this moment, so we need to do something with this issue. I think that all video HW that doesn't allov the font to be reprogammed on the fly should be shot at dawn :) I really have no good solution to this, but there is some 80% solutions which however requires lots of code to do their (miserable) job... (bruce, want to recap ?) It is possible to fiddle with the current parameters and get it to work on most video HW, but when it works for one it fails miserably for others :(, the current values are the ones that cause the least troubles on my test HW. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 05:40:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA14413 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14356 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08823; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:39:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:39:19 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao To: Jason Fesler cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fidonet? [don't laugh!] In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970314130536.00ae3660@pop.calweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Jason Fesler wrote: > > I'm about ready to {b/t}urn the OS2 box into a FreeBSD box.. Has > anyone managed to work out decent fidonet support whatsoever? Paul Chvostek (paul@it.ca) was running a gateway between Fido and FTP/Usenet on a FreeBSD box. He was using the ifmail package, IIRC. I bounced him your message. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 05:45:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA14686 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14680 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 05:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08831; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:44:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:44:41 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao To: John-Mark Gurney cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: getpeername xrefs? In-Reply-To: <19970312011918.39824@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > is there any good reason why getpeername doesn't have xrefs in > related man pages? (like socket(2), getsockname(2), etc...)? I think that would be a good idea... I was going through the man pages for socket, listen, bind, accept, etc. looking for getpeername (though I didn't know it at the time ;-)). -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 06:36:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16712 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA16707 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA15754; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:36:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA13599; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: David Greenman cc: Jaye Mathisen , Tom Samplonius , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: ahc problems with 2.2+ In-Reply-To: <199703200653.WAA00973@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Truly bizarre. Some P5 boards like the asus p55tp4 choke out of the gate with a 3940W and MEMIO. OTOH, the ppro P6NP5 ran for about a day with TAG, SCB and MEMIO before death. Pull MEMIO and up for > 17 days now. -Chris On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, David Greenman wrote: > ...and if I _don't_ turn on AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO on wcarchive, the machine > dies regularly with a PCI bus parity error during the PIO instruction. This > seems to happen on some (especially P6) machines. > With Justin's latest stuff, wcarchive has been quite stable. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 07:47:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19823 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA19772; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 07:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA02887 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:43:25 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 20 Mar 97 15:43:16 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05230; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:40:31 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:40:27 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Sxren Schmidt Cc: sos@freebsd.org, bde@zeta.org.au, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: <199703201207.NAA25662@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Sxren Schmidt wrote: > You mean the display jitters ?? It looks like some sort of shaking of upper left corner. It is possible to work still, but not several hours at once, eyes tired more quickly. > I really have no good solution to this, but there is some 80% solutions > which however requires lots of code to do their (miserable) job... > (bruce, want to recap ?) > > It is possible to fiddle with the current parameters and get it to > work on most video HW, but when it works for one it fails miserably > for others :(, the current values are the ones that cause the least > troubles on my test HW. Well, maybe add several compile options for such cases? Do you have some code I can test, or hints? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 08:11:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21525 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from titan.cs.mci.com (titan.cs.mci.com [166.37.6.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA21519 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by titan.cs.mci.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Mar97-0149PM) id AA01745; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:09:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:09:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Thomas S. Traylor" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Tim Liddelow , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2940 driver bug In-Reply-To: <8885.858820320@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is the AHA 2940 driver bug (just recently fixed as per your > > announcement) present in 2.2-RELEASE ? I have just been given > > No, I'm afraid not. That's going to have to wait for 2.2.x > (though you're welcome to CTM/CVSup yourself up to the end > of the RELENG_2_2 branch to get those fixes now). I'm most likely at the end of the RELENG_2_2 branch now, but I haven't had any problems with the AHA 2940. I just installed a second AHA 2940 and a new kernel, no problems. What type of problems with the AHA 2940 have been reported? Tom > > Jordan > -- Thomas Traylor Thomas.Traylor@mci.com ttraylor@titan.cs.mci.com (719) 535-1269 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 09:36:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26396 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [139.23.36.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26382 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04113 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:31:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (1@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA20435 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:36:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19254 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:36:02 +0100 (MET) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199703201735.SAA05105@bali.us.tld> Subject: showmount -e hangs on 2.2-RELEASE To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:35:49 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I experienced some strange effects when using "showmount -e server", where "server" is a 2.2-RELEASE machine. I have also running another 2.2-RELEASE box together with a couple of IRIX 5.3, HP-UX 9.05, SunOS 4.1.3, FreeBSD 2.1.7 machines on the same network. 1. When doing a "showmount -e other_machine" ON the server, where other_machine is one of the above, everything works. 2. When doing a "showmount -e server" ON any of the other machines, everything works also. 3. When doing a "showmount -e server" ON the machine server, showmount hangs until it is killed with CTRL-C. 4. When doing a "showmount -e other22" ON the other 2.2-RELEASE machine everything works again. So the problem is, that showmount -e doesn't work on ONE particular 2.2-RELEASE machine. One important difference between the two 2.2s is, that the affected box has three ethernet card. Does anybody know what's going on here? As it might be important, I include the dmesg output of the bad machine... Thanks for any hints... -Andre Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 18 15:03:40 CET 1997 root@server.us.tld:/server/adm/FreeBSD/src/sys/src-2.2/sys/compile/SERVER CPU: Pentium (166.09-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31064064 (30336K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:9 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "IBM DPES-31080 S31Q" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1034MB (2118144 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 4903 cyls, 4 heads, and an average 108 sectors/track ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:1:0): "Quantum XP34300 L915" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 3907 cyls, 20 heads, and an average 107 sectors/track ahc0: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:2:0): "Quantum XP34300 L915" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) sd2(ahc0:2:0): with 3907 cyls, 20 heads, and an average 107 sectors/track ahc0: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:3:0): "Quantum XP34300 L915" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(ahc0:3:0): Direct-Access 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors) sd3(ahc0:3:0): with 3907 cyls, 20 heads, and an average 107 sectors/track ahc0: target 4 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:4:0): "SEAGATE ST12400N 8650" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd4(ahc0:4:0): Direct-Access 2048MB (4194685 512 byte sectors) sd4(ahc0:4:0): with 2621 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 84 sectors/track ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 ahc1: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs (ahc1:0:0): "IMPRIMIS 94601-15 4202" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd10(ahc1:0:0): Direct-Access 992MB (2031705 512 byte sectors) sd10(ahc1:0:0): with 1931 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 70 sectors/track (ahc1:1:0): "IMPRIMIS 94601-15 4202" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd11(ahc1:1:0): Direct-Access 992MB (2031705 512 byte sectors) sd11(ahc1:1:0): with 1931 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 70 sectors/track ahc1: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc1:2:0): "SEAGATE ST41650 6414" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd12(ahc1:2:0): Direct-Access 1350MB (2766300 512 byte sectors) sd12(ahc1:2:0): with 2107 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 87 sectors/track ahc1: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc1:3:0): "SEAGATE ST42400N 0116" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd13(ahc1:3:0): Direct-Access 2030MB (4159462 512 byte sectors) sd13(ahc1:3:0): with 2626 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 83 sectors/track ahc1: target 5 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc1:5:0): "SEAGATE ST15230N 0298" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd15(ahc1:5:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8386733 512 byte sectors) sd15(ahc1:5:0): with 3992 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 110 sectors/track ahc1: target 6 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc1:6:0): "SEAGATE ST15230N 0298" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd16(ahc1:6:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8386733 512 byte sectors) sd16(ahc1:6:0): with 3992 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 110 sectors/track ahc2 rev 0 int a irq 12 on pci0:11 ahc2: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs (ahc2:3:0): "HP HP35480A 1109" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc2:3:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, variable blocks, write-enabled (ahc2:5:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:502 2.0r" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd2(ahc2:5:0): CD-ROM can't get the size (ahc2:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3701TA 3205" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd3(ahc2:6:0): CD-ROM can't get the size chip3 rev 2 on pci0:12 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: de0 rev 36 int a irq 5 on pci1:4 de0: SMC 8434BT-CH1 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:c0:ba:73:e0 de0: enabling BNC/AUI port de1 rev 36 int a irq 10 on pci1:5 de1: SMC 8434BT-CH2 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de1: address 00:00:c0:81:78:e0 de1: enabling BNC/AUI port Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <9 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x240-0x25f irq 9 maddr 0xe0000 msize 8192 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:f9:a9:dd, type SMC8416C/SMC8416BT (16 bit) lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface ccd0-1: Concatenated disk drivers From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 09:56:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27297 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27280 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14556; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:56:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703201756.KAA14556@narnia.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Kachun Lee cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:21:04 PST." <199703200821.AAA14407@rr.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:56:55 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would suggest using AHC_TAGENABLE. The non-tagged queueing stuff gets less testing by me since none of our systems use it here. The motherboard for my "regression system" should be in today, so I'll start pounding the non-tagged case as soon as that machine is up. >At 08:51 PM 3/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Which AHC options are you using in your kernel config? > >I did not use any... should I try some? I am using the Intel Venus Pro 200 >MB and 3940W - with 3 Seagate 4G on 1 channel and 6 4G on the other. > >>>Thank you for trying, but sorry to say the 970318 kernel crashed also. >>>Actually, even more often - every 3-4 hours... the 2.2-REL only during INN >>>expireover. And, when the system crashed, no log messages made into >>>/var/log/messages. I caught the reboot once and it said something about >>>ahc... timeout... the screen erase before I could write it down. >>> [snip] > >Thanks for the help > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 10:12:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28136 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28131 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17345 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:12:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:12:18 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -current make world failed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk src/usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c cc -O -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c: In function `flags_to_string': /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:74: `UF_OPAQUE' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:74: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:74: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c: In function `string_to_flags': /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:134: `UF_OPAQUE' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root@mercury [4:01am][/usr/src] >> Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 11:18:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01353 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.mrtc.org [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01348 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) id JAA02973; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:13:15 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199703201913.JAA02973@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: <199703201756.KAA14556@narnia.plutotech.com> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at "Mar 20, 97 10:56:55 am" To: gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:13:15 -1000 (HST) Cc: kachun@zippo.com, gibbs@plutotech.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed that the AHC options are not in the 2.1.7 LINT file (at least not on my machine) Personally I use LINT to find out what options are available. Since I take care of several different versions of FreeBSD on peoples machines this is very helpful as Ican never remeber what got changed when. Thanks, -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com >I would suggest using AHC_TAGENABLE. The non-tagged queueing stuff gets >less testing by me since none of our systems use it here. The motherboard >for my "regression system" should be in today, so I'll start pounding the >non-tagged case as soon as that machine is up. >-- >Justin T. Gibbs From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 11:47:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02804 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.uniserve.com (mercury.uniserve.com [204.191.197.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02796 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.uniserve.com (haven.uniserve.com [198.53.215.121]) by mercury.uniserve.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA22589; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:44:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: David Langford cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: <199703201913.JAA02973@caliban.dihelix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, David Langford wrote: > I noticed that the AHC options are not in the 2.1.7 LINT file > (at least not on my machine) > Personally I use LINT to find out what options are available. > Since I take care of several different versions of FreeBSD on peoples > machines this is very helpful as Ican never remeber what got changed when. > > Thanks, > > -David Langford > langfod@dihelix.com Always read the manpage (man ahc). This is better than LINT, because it gives some warnings, as well as tells you specically what benefit you get from these things. > >I would suggest using AHC_TAGENABLE. The non-tagged queueing stuff gets > >less testing by me since none of our systems use it here. The motherboard > >for my "regression system" should be in today, so I'll start pounding the > >non-tagged case as soon as that machine is up. > >-- > >Justin T. Gibbs > > Tom From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 12:10:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04108 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.warman.org.pl [148.81.160.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04098 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17784; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:10:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:10:08 +0100 (MET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Vincent Poy cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current make world failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Vincent Poy wrote: > src/usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c > cc -O -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c [ending up in...] > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 For some reason I cannot fathom, 'make world' does strange things to the include files - aren't they supposed to be installed *first* before the other things are compiled? Anyway, here's what solved the similar problems for me: cd /usr/src/include make all install Andy +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Andrzej Bialecki _) _) _)_) _)_)_) _) _) --------------------------------------- _)_) _) _) _) _)_) _)_) Research and Academic Network in Poland _) _)_) _)_)_)_) _) _) _) Bartycka 18, 00-716 Warsaw, Poland _) _) _) _) _)_)_) _) _) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 12:39:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05588 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05581; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA00263; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:04:16 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199703202004.VAA00263@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: from "[______ ______]" at "Mar 20, 97 03:40:27 pm" To: ache@nagual.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:04:06 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@freebsd.org, bde@zeta.org.au, current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to [______ ______] who wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Sxren Schmidt wrote: > > > You mean the display jitters ?? > > It looks like some sort of shaking of upper left corner. It is possible to > work still, but not several hours at once, eyes tired more quickly. Yup, thats jitter allright :( > > It is possible to fiddle with the current parameters and get it to > > work on most video HW, but when it works for one it fails miserably > > for others :(, the current values are the ones that cause the least > > troubles on my test HW. > > Well, maybe add several compile options for such cases? Well playing with the parameters used in programming the HW, try moving the vertical sync a bit to either side that helps on some boards.. > Do you have some code I can test, or hints? Well, thats about it, to get a more "perfect" solution big parts of the code needs to be rewritten in order to do the update asynchronously, in some way sync to the vertical sync. Some VGA cards can give an int mostly int 9, others use NMI (ick!) and others has it but fails to generate the interrupt :( As I said, no easy clean solution, practically no solution at all :( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 13:09:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07253 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns3-17.netcom.ca [207.181.94.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07248 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA02020 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:06:41 -0400 (AST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:06:41 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: current@freebsd.org Subject: sio overflows using an internal modem.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... What exactly does this mean? I'm using a 33.6 internal modem (the *worst* decision I've ever made *sigh*) in a P133 using a March 16th 3.0-CURRENT kernel: Mar 19 04:01:21 thelab /kernel: sio2: 248 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 248) Mar 20 04:01:23 thelab /kernel: sio2: 61 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 309) Its the first time I've ever noticed this error message... From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 13:51:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09879 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (glacier-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09871 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.epa.ericsson.se (epa.epa.ericsson.se [146.11.8.1]) by glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-0.9) with ESMTP id WAA08513; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:50:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from brpc795.epa.ericsson.se (brpc795.epa.ericsson.se [146.11.13.2]) by mailhost.epa.ericsson.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA21225; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:50:42 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3332BC3E.607E@epa.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:50:06 -0800 From: Mark Hannon Organization: Ericsson Australia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org CC: "Hannon, Mark (seeware)" Subject: Further dtmail & 2.2-RELEASE clues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, Further to my earlier emails re: problems with dtmail and sgid not seeming to work on 2.2-RELEASE (but working on 2.2-ALPHA). I have just browsed through the CVS archive and found the following: In src/sys/kern/kern_exec.c >1.47.2.2 Wed Feb 19 3:53:35 1997 by davidg >CVS Tags: RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE; Branch: RELENG_2_2 >Diffs to 1.47.2.1 ; Diffs to 1.51 > >Brought in change from rev 1.51: preserve P_SUGID if {u,g}gid != r{u,g}id >Note that this doesn't actually fix any known security holes, it just >protects against sloppy programming. Could this be causing my dtmail problem? I will patch my kernel sources when I get home tonight and try it. Will send a follow-up report. Regards/Mark From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 13:55:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10311 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from melbourne.dialix.com.au (seeuucp@melbourne.dialix.com.au [203.12.2.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10298 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from seeuucp@localhost) by melbourne.dialix.com.au with UUCP id IAA06457 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:54:54 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: melbourne.dialix.com.au: seeuucp set sender to mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au using -f Received: from putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au [10.0.0.1]) by doorway.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17396 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:55:05 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Hannon Received: (from mark@localhost) by putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id HAA00828 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:54:56 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:54:56 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199703202054.HAA00828@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au> Subject: 2.2-RELEASE, dtmail stopped working To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: rQpJUY3GcxgUo6HiaLgsWQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id NAA10304 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI, Further info on my problem below. I have previously had 2.2-GAMMA running nicely on the 2.2-RELEASE box (before a HD crash killed it...). So, out of curiosity, I found an old 2.2-ALPHA kernel image and booted it. Dtmail now works like a charm. What can be different in the handling of sgid binaries between 2.2-ALPHA and 2.2-RELEASE? Regards/Mark PS Another thing I tried was to umount the /var/mail partition (thinking maybe its this new NFSv3) but with 2.2-RELEASE I still get the same message. ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- >From mark@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au Thu Mar 20 21:58:39 1997 X-Status: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:58:38 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Hannon To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: support@xinside.com Subject: 2.2-RELEASE, dtmail stopped working MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1120 Hi, I have a 2.2-RELEASE box, upgraded from 2.1.7 to 2.2 this evening and now dtmail (part of the CDE installation from Xinside) has stopped working. It seems to be a permission thing. The mail spool is set: putte:~> ll -d /var/mail drwxrwxr-x 2 bin bin 512 Mar 20 21:21 /var/mail/ The spool is NFS mounted from a 2.1.7 box. Dtmail is: putte:~> ll /usr/dt/bin/dtmail -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin bin 696320 Sep 7 1996 /usr/dt/bin/dtmail* When I try and start dtmail I get a dialog box saying: "Mailer has not been properly installed and cannot be run because the execution group is incorrectly set" Things worked correctly when the machine had 2.1.7 installed. If I su to root and run dtmail it starts OK. Any ideas? Regards/Mark +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD, Free Unix for your PC | mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | See http://www.freebsd.org | Unsolicited commercial | | Australia | | email not welcome! | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 15:41:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07037 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07028; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA09889; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:09:11 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199703202339.KAA09889@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: <199703202004.VAA00263@ravenock.cybercity.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Mar 20, 97 09:04:06 pm" To: sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:09:10 +1030 (CST) Cc: ache@nagual.ru, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Søren Schmidt stands accused of saying: > > Well, thats about it, to get a more "perfect" solution big parts of the > code needs to be rewritten in order to do the update asynchronously, in > some way sync to the vertical sync. Some VGA cards can give an int > mostly int 9, others use NMI (ick!) and others has it but fails to > generate the interrupt :( > As I said, no easy clean solution, practically no solution at all :( Er, how about a raster console? (ducks and runs) 8) Or just accept that having a "real" mouse cursor is pointless and use a colour-xor block (text cursor). I dunno; IMHO if you want a cursor, use X 8) > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 17:59:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16769 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16742 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00163 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:01:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running 2.2R plus 210 & 211. I have user ppp set up and working great, except for one thing. Whenever I do the system quickly dials out and then hangs up before rebooting. When I use 'shutdown -r now' (my usual method!) this does not occur. Why would this be happening? Also, whenever I run PINE (3.95 - installed from 2.2-RELEASE ports collection) it also causes a dial out before giving me the initial menu. I am using the default PINE setup, unmodified since it installed itself, and I can't see anything that would make it look anywhere but locally for mail. ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 18:32:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18684 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinto.accesscomm.net (root@pinto.accesscomm.net [204.189.106.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18679 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kane.storm.com (n1m44.accesscomm.net [204.189.106.60]) by pinto.accesscomm.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18414 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:31:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3331F434.41C67EA6@accesscomm.net> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:36:36 -0600 From: The Old Wolf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 19:49:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22732 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22726 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00189 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:52:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R (src 2.2 211) /stand/sysinstall vs XFree86 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Having downloaded 2.2R (sans XFree86) onto a DOS partition I successfully installed it from that partition using a boot floppy I created as instructed in the installation documentation. Having played with it a while - customized the kernel, make world'ing etc. I decided to install XFree86. Good thing I waited - since all the binaries were updated early this morning! Having downloaded the new XFree86 stuff into the FreeBSD/XF8632 directory on my DOS partition I booted FreeBSD and ran /stand/sysinstall as root. I selected Custom installation, media DOS, custom distribution, and XFree86. When I choose commit I got the error message that compat21 could no be installed 'maybe because it's not on the media I chose'. After a little experimention it seemed clear that nothing would install from the DOS partition anymore. I then did a 'mount -t msdos /dev/wd0s1 /cfat' and repeated my original process, this time specifying a source of 'existing file system' and giving a root of /cfat/FreeBSD. Everything worked. Is the DOS media selection only good during an initial installation? Or did I do something wrong? ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 20:53:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA25587 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25582 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA08716; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:53:16 -0800 (PST) To: "Kenneth R. Westerback" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211) /stand/sysinstall vs XFree86 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:52:05 EST." Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:53:16 -0800 Message-ID: <8712.858919996@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is the DOS media selection only good during an initial installation? Or > did I do something wrong? Hmmm. I can't say I've ever tested it as an after-install thing; it's conceivable that something is different in that case. I'll take a look! Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 20 20:55:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA25702 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25697 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1 (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id WAA26061; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:46:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id WAA01445; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:32:17 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970320223216.48411@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:32:16 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: Kachun Lee , "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ahc crashes References: <199703200821.AAA14407@rr.zippo.com> <199703201756.KAA14556@narnia.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.66 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Justin ! On Thu, Mar 20, 1997 at 10:56:55AM -0700, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > I would suggest using AHC_TAGENABLE. The non-tagged queueing stuff gets > less testing by me since none of our systems use it here. The motherboard > for my "regression system" should be in today, so I'll start pounding the > non-tagged case as soon as that machine is up. Well, my machine still hangs and panics, if I use tagged command queuing and try to make a dump to tape. And btw... I have switched to -current since a few days ... My machine reboot's occasionally after 5-30 minutes ... Sometimes page faults ... Maybe some of my problems are hardware related ... Hope I can get a new system soon ... -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 01:07:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA05338 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05328 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) id LAA24724; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:05:32 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199703210905.LAA24724@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: from Tom Samplonius at "Mar 20, 97 11:50:11 am" To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom Samplonius) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:05:32 +0200 (EET) Cc: langfod@dihelix.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Personally I use LINT to find out what options are available. > Always read the manpage (man ahc). This is better than LINT, because it yes, but still it'd be nicer to have atleast some pointers what can be used on the LINT... mickey From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 01:12:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA05634 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.mrtc.org [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05629 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) id XAA01818; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:12:32 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199703210912.XAA01818@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: <199703210905.LAA24724@shadows.aeon.net> from mika ruohotie at "Mar 21, 97 11:05:32 am" To: bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net (mika ruohotie) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:12:31 -1000 (HST) Cc: tom@uniserve.com, langfod@dihelix.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk mika ruohotie >> > Personally I use LINT to find out what options are available. >> Always read the manpage (man ahc). This is better than LINT, because it > >yes, but still it'd be nicer to have atleast some pointers what can >be used on the LINT... >mickey To be honest I am not used to man pages being any where near up-to-date. This works fine for ahc maybe as perhaps those are kept up, but it doesnt work for most of the other drivers. Actually I that that was one of the points to LINT. -David From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 01:58:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA07318 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07312 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA20213; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:54:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current make world failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > src/usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c > > cc -O -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c > [ending up in...] > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > For some reason I cannot fathom, 'make world' does strange things to the > include files - aren't they supposed to be installed *first* before the > other things are compiled? > > Anyway, here's what solved the similar problems for me: > > cd /usr/src/include > make all install Thanks, that part was fixed with your help.. Now, here comes this part: cc -O -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/include -DUSE_OPTIONS_H -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/named/db_secure.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/named/named.h:18, from /usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/named/db_secure.c:16: /usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/named/ns_func.h:129: parse error before character 0357 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root@mercury [10:53pm][/usr/src] >> From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 03:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA09509 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA09501; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA27808 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:02:10 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Fri, 21 Mar 97 13:02:10 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA00452; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:39:12 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:39:09 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Michael Smith Cc: Sxren Schmidt , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: <199703202339.KAA09889@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Or just accept that having a "real" mouse cursor is pointless and use a > colour-xor block (text cursor). > > I dunno; IMHO if you want a cursor, use X 8) The bad thing is that you are right more then you think. If you ever want a cursor (not _mouse_ cursor, but simple character cursor since this thing hits even without mouse cursor) use X :-( -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 04:11:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12186 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12181; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA00265; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:11:39 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199703211211.NAA00265@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Syscons screen distortion on Diamond 3D 3000 (S3 Virge/VX) In-Reply-To: from "[______ ______]" at "Mar 21, 97 03:39:09 am" To: ache@nagual.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:11:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to [______ ______] who wrote: > On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > > > Or just accept that having a "real" mouse cursor is pointless and use a > > colour-xor block (text cursor). > > > > I dunno; IMHO if you want a cursor, use X 8) > > The bad thing is that you are right more then you think. If you ever want > a cursor (not _mouse_ cursor, but simple character cursor since this thing > hits even without mouse cursor) use X :-( Now you know why I called that mode destructive :) Use a normal or blinking cursor instead, to be honest I dont see the difference... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 04:33:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13521 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (uutejb@dnttm.wave.ras.ru [194.85.104.197]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13516 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uutejb@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/IP-2) with UUCP id PAA07568 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:34:18 +0300 Received: from localhost (dima@localhost) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01164 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:33:49 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:33:48 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitrij Tejblum Reply-To: Dmitrij Tejblum To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Source trees, distributed via CVSup and CTM, are different. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For example, if you use CVSup, the first line of current file src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c is /* $Header: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 1997/03/17 01:44:40 jmg Exp $ but if you use CTM, it is /* $Header: /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 1997/03/17 01:44:40 jmg Exp $ It generates a little troubles if moving from CVSup to CTM. Also, can it affect the 2.2 CTM deltas? Dima From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 05:17:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA14837 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14832 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.69.236.50] (GATEWAY.SKIPSTONE.COM [198.214.10.129]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20754; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:16:43 -0600 (CST) Date: 21 Mar 97 07:18:19 -0600 Subject: Re: Source trees, distributed via CVSup and CTM, are different. From: "Richard Wackerbarth" To: "Dmitrij Tejblum" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Mar 21, 1997 6:33 AM, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: >For example, if you use CVSup, the first line of current file >src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c is > >/* $Header: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 1997/03/17 01:44:40 jmg >Exp $ > >but if you use CTM, it is > >/* $Header: /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 1997/ >03/17 01:44:40 jmg Exp $ > >It generates a little troubles if moving from CVSup to CTM. > >Also, can it affect the 2.2 CTM deltas? The CTM deltas are consistent within themselves. They check only to see that the files in your tree match the files in my "before" tree. After the delta is generated, it is actually applied to the "before" tree to make it match the "after" tree to be ready for the next round. IMHO, it would be better if the Header files to which you refer did not include the actual CVSROOT, but only the path thereafter. Eg. src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v Short of that, the two distributions will match only if our CVS trees are in exactly the same place. I don't think that is likely to happen. I know that /home/ncvs/src is not going to happen on my machine and I suspect that there are equally valid reasons why /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/src may not be appropriate for the other side. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 06:13:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16753 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fuji.slab.ntt.co.jp (fuji.pearnet.org [204.162.42.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16747 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from fuji.slab.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuji.slab.ntt.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W) with ESMTP id XAA29193 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:12:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703211412.XAA29193@fuji.slab.ntt.co.jp> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: TERM=dumb?? in -current. X-Mailer: Mew version 1.55 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:12:46 +0900 From: FUJIURA Toyonori Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello.. Now I login without xterm,I got TERM = "dumb". I even use xterm, "telnet localhost" becomes "dumb".. /etc/ttys set to cons25w for ttyv?. Why? --- FUJIURA Toyonori NTT Software Laboartories E-Mail : toyo@nttlabs.com Phone : +81-422-59-2824 Facsimile : +81-422-60-7389(G4/G3) Pager : toyo-pager@nttspe.slab.ntt.co.jp (DoCoMo Info Next Service) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 07:17:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19388 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mule0.mindspring.com (mule0.mindspring.com [204.180.128.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19364 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (user-168-121-25-139.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.25.139]) by mule0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA93610 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:16:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3332A668.59E2B600@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:16:56 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2 RLS 3-20 Build Fails for libm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In building libm shared libs the build fails with multiple defined symbols starting at cc -fpic -DPIC -D_IEEE_LIBM -c i387_s_tan.S -o i387_s_tan.so What is the fix ?? Thank's Ron -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 08:34:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25039 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25031 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17488; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:34:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703211634.IAA17488@austin.polstra.com> To: rkw@dataplex.net Subject: Re: Source trees, distributed via CVSup and CTM, are different. Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:34:24 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 1997 6:33 AM, Dmitrij Tejblum > wrote: > >For example, if you use CVSup, the first line of current file > >src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c is > > > >/* $Header: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 1997/03/17 > 01:44:40 jmg > >Exp $ > > > >but if you use CTM, it is > > > >/* $Header: /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/inp.c,v 1.5 > 1997/ > >03/17 01:44:40 jmg Exp $ > > > >It generates a little troubles if moving from CVSup to CTM. CVSup is "right" because it agrees with the sources in the official releases. > [...] > Short of that, the two distributions will match only if our CVS trees are > in > exactly the same place. I don't think that is likely to happen. I know that > /home/ncvs/src is not going to happen on my machine and I suspect that > there are equally valid reasons why /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/src may > not be appropriate for the other side. I thought long and hard about this issue when I was implementing checkout mode in CVSup. My conclusion, which I still hold, was that checked out files must have their RCS keywords expanded "as if" the checkout had occurred on freefall. That means that the Header keyword must expand to something that starts with "/home/ncvs", no matter where the repository really is. CVSup has a notion of a "canonical" repository directory to support that. I.e., the physical repository may be anywhere, but the paths in $Header$ and $Source$ keywords will be expanded as if the repository were in the canonical location. I think this is important. Can't you make a symlink on your CTM machine "/home/ncvs -> /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS" and set CVSROOT to "/home/ncvs"? That would solve the problem. John PS - For the record: $Header$ is evil, and so is $Source$. $Log$ is the devil incarnate. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 10:49:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02473 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02445; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199703211848.KAA02445@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ahc crashes To: langfod@dihelix.com (David Langford) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:48:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net, tom@uniserve.com, langfod@dihelix.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199703210912.XAA01818@caliban.dihelix.com> from "David Langford" at Mar 20, 97 11:12:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Langford wrote: > > mika ruohotie > >> > Personally I use LINT to find out what options are available. > >> Always read the manpage (man ahc). This is better than LINT, because it > > > >yes, but still it'd be nicer to have atleast some pointers what can > >be used on the LINT... > >mickey > > To be honest I am not used to man pages being any where near up-to-date. > This works fine for ahc maybe as perhaps those are kept up, but > it doesnt work for most of the other drivers. If you know of any man pages that are out of date, please file a PR, preferably with diffs :-) since I'll get those in as soon as possible. Man page PRs without diffs usually take me longer if I have to actually sit and figure out what needs to be added or write it all from scratch. -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 11:10:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03863 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.mrtc.org [199.4.33.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03829 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) id JAA03106; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:09:54 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199703211909.JAA03106@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: ahc crashes In-Reply-To: <199703211848.KAA02445@freefall.freebsd.org> from Mike Pritchard at "Mar 21, 97 10:48:57 am" To: mpp@freefall.freebsd.org (Mike Pritchard) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:09:54 -1000 (HST) Cc: langfod@dihelix.com, bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net, tom@uniserve.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> To be honest I am not used to man pages being any where near up-to-date. >> This works fine for ahc maybe as perhaps those are kept up, but >> it doesnt work for most of the other drivers. > >If you know of any man pages that are out of date, please >file a PR, preferably with diffs :-) since I'll get those in as soon >as possible. Man page PRs without diffs usually take me longer if >I have to actually sit and figure out what needs to be added >or write it all from scratch. >-- >Mike Pritchard >mpp@FreeBSD.org Point taken. Though all I am saying is that I dont always know what is up-to-date versus what is not. I help maintain for several parties who for various reasons may be running many different versions and widely variing of the OS. I have noticed in the past that LINT seemed to about the only place that "undocumented" options were documented. It is unclear when "undocumented" options become more than just testbed stuff. I certainly dont expect current's LINT to be up-to-date but perhaps in the RELEASES or such. BTW: Take a look at ncr(4) versus the NCR options listed in current's LINT. Also take all this with a :) Some of us kind of enjoy the hacking. No, bitching intended if anyone is reading it that way. Thank to all :) -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 14:53:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19976 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from melbourne.dialix.com.au (seeuucp@melbourne.dialix.com.au [203.12.2.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19969 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from seeuucp@localhost) by melbourne.dialix.com.au with UUCP id JAA26165 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:52:55 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: melbourne.dialix.com.au: seeuucp set sender to mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au using -f Received: from putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au [10.0.0.1]) by doorway.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23079; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:21:26 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Hannon Received: (from mark@localhost) by putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA00311; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:21:25 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:21:25 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199703212221.JAA00311@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further dtmail & 2.2-RELEASE clues Cc: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: lGoOsNw+MBHZtp8uwLcwKw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id OAA19972 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi again, > > Further to my earlier emails re: problems with dtmail and > sgid not seeming to work on 2.2-RELEASE (but working on > 2.2-ALPHA). > > I have just browsed through the CVS archive and found the > following: > > In src/sys/kern/kern_exec.c > >1.47.2.2 Wed Feb 19 3:53:35 1997 by davidg > >CVS Tags: RELENG_2_2_0_RELEASE; Branch: RELENG_2_2 > >Diffs to 1.47.2.1 ; Diffs to 1.51 > > > >Brought in change from rev 1.51: preserve P_SUGID if {u,g}gid != r{u,g}id > >Note that this doesn't actually fix any known security holes, it just > >protects against sloppy programming. > This one didn't seem to help....Will continue playing around until I can change a file and get it to work. Anybody have any suggestions? Rgds/Mark PS A 2.2-GAMMA kernel also works. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 17:47:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01803 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.ibm.net (slip129-37-195-67.nc.us.ibm.net [129.37.195.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01790 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from slip129-37-195-1.nc.us.ibm.net (ns01 [127.0.0.1]) by pent.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08708 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:47:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703220147.UAA08708@pent.ibm.net> To: current@freebsd.org From: "Adam W. Hawks" Reply-to: awhawks@ibm.net Subject: Is 802.3 supported? Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:47:03 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a NE2000 card and a IBM 9229 Token-Ring to Ethernet bridge which currently talks to everything fine except for my FreeBSD Box. I finaly found in the docs that the default is Ethernet-II protocol. Can I set something in the kernel that will make it use 802.3 (like the bidge) instead? Thanks in advance Adam W. Hawks awhawks@ibm.net From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 20:32:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08631 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wangel.dyndns.com (16pm01.ka.net [207.51.78.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08607 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wangel@localhost) by wangel.dyndns.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA11887 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:34:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:34:10 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Roberts To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: -Current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it safe to cvsup my src and do a make world ??? Last time I tried it was during the Lite2 Merge...I live KY, house was flooded so I was off the net for awhile and have missed everything since then =) Thanks Gary From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 21:32:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10440 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from galak.telcel.net.ve (galak.T-Net.net.ve [206.48.41.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10404; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from telcel.telcel.net.ve ([208.136.193.202]) by galak.telcel.net.ve (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAC9659; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:31:41 +0400 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ricardo_N=FA=F1ez?=" To: "FreeBSD Security" , "FreeBSD Current Version" , "FreeBSD" Subject: FreeBSD as a SNMP RMON Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:23:45 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970321213136.AAC9659@telcel.telcel.net.ve> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Gentlemen, Could a FreeBSD PC be used as a SNMP RMON agent monitoring computer so that a remote SNMP manager could ask network statistics to it? Thank you in advance, Ricardo Nunez From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 22:14:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11750 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail0.iij.ad.jp (mail0.iij.ad.jp [202.232.2.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11745 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp2.iij.ad.jp (uucp2.iij.ad.jp [202.232.2.202]) by mail0.iij.ad.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl4-MAIL) with SMTP id PAA24285 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:14:05 +0900 (JST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp2.iij.ad.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9-UUCP) with UUCP id PAA15458 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:14:05 +0900 Received: from tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4W2-uucp) with ESMTP id LAA06134 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:23:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wnomx) with SMTP id LAA00876 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:23:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703220223.LAA00876@tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp> X-Authentication-Warning: tyd1.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp: localhost.tydfam.iijnet.or.jp [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Q) -current kernel Reply-To: ken@tydfam.iijnet.or.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.55 on Emacs 19.34.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:23:21 +0900 From: Takeshi Yamada Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! When can I make -current kernel without problems? Recent source tree of -current enables me to "make world" though I have problems with NFS - I can't mount 2.2R disks under 2.2R kernel. However, the kernel compilation stops at under /sys/ufs due to the name space conflict of "blksize" - one requires one argument and the other requires three arguments. Or, is it my source tree fault? From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 23:39:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14444 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14439 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA20684 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:39:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA14778 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:49:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:49:05 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199703220749.IAA14778@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: mount: ufs filesystem is not available - urgent help needed Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since yesterday night cvsup.de.freebsd.org (and in consequence of this due to nfs mounts) ftp.de.freebsd.org are defunct. ftp.de.freebsd.org crashed and stopped at reboot due to fsck failures in single user mode. I sitting here at the machine now , fsck'ed , rebooted and now I'm getting mount: ufs filesystem is not available mount: ufs filesystem is not available mount: ufs filesystem is not available mount: ufs filesystem is not available mount: ufs filesystem is not available on every ufs mount (/, /var, /usr, /home, /a) I need urgent help to get the machine going again. Thanks. -- Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 21 23:45:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14628 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14619 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA20716 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:45:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA14834; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:55:22 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199703220755.IAA14834@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: mount: ufs filesystem is not available - urgent help needed In-Reply-To: <199703220749.IAA14778@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from Christoph Kukulies at "Mar 22, 97 08:49:05 am" To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:55:22 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I should have mentioned that that machine is running 3.0-current-after-the-quake to justify posting in -cureent rather than -hubs. > > Since yesterday night cvsup.de.freebsd.org (and in consequence > of this due to nfs mounts) ftp.de.freebsd.org are defunct. > > ftp.de.freebsd.org crashed and stopped at reboot due to > fsck failures in single user mode. I sitting here at the machine > now , fsck'ed , rebooted and now I'm getting > > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > > on every ufs mount (/, /var, /usr, /home, /a) > > I need urgent help to get the machine going again. > > Thanks. > > > -- > Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > -- Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 00:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15492 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15487 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 00:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nocc_pc2.iadfw.net from [206.66.13.234] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.136) with smtp id ; Sat, 22 Mar 97 02:21:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <33339690.4CDB@kickinit.com> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 02:21:36 -0600 From: Lance Reply-To: lljones@kickinit.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 01:40:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA17199 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from news.via.nl (news.via.nl [193.78.61.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA17194 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 01:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21240 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Mar 1997 09:40:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:40:14 +0100 (MET) From: frank To: Christoph Kukulies cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount: ufs filesystem is not available - urgent help needed In-Reply-To: <199703220755.IAA14834@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > > mount: ufs filesystem is not available > > > > on every ufs mount (/, /var, /usr, /home, /a) > > > > I need urgent help to get the machine going again. Hi, I had about the same thing here. One possible fix is (worked for me) to boot with the fixit-disk, and copy the mount* from there onto some new directory on your harddrive. then boot is single-user and use those mounts to get things going again. I ended up going back to 2.2 (3.0 was crashing every 20 minutes or so :/ Good luck with your system! hmm.. maybe this is just a north-european thing? Frank Ederveen (who still can't use his DAT with 2.2 and a ahc2940) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 05:31:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24614 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from camel6.mindspring.com (camel6.mindspring.com [204.180.128.212]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24609 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 05:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08047 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:31:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3333DF24.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:31:16 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: AHC SCSI and XMCD Halt System Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, When using 2.2REL ENG cvsup 3-20-97. System: Adaptech 2940UW and Fujitsu 2954QAU with a Toshiba 3701B SCSI-II CDROM. When I use Xmcd 2.1 the system reboots (every time), it didn't do this b4 3-3-97. See attached dmesg.txt file. Ron -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 21 09:50:02 EST 1997 rlb@rlb.users.mindspring.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/dogsnarf Calibrating clock(s) ... i586 clock: 199447994 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193280 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CLK_USE_I586_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xfbff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 129028096 (126004K bytes) pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=12378086) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 mapreg[20] type=1 addr=0000ffa0 size=0010. I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 3.5 clocks, 16-bit 3.5 clocks Extended BIOS: disabled Lower BIOS: disabled Coprocessor IRQ13: disabled Mouse IRQ12: disabled Interrupt Routing: A: , B: , C: , D: MB0: , MB1: pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7020, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq ?? [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 1 on pci0:19 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=fe000000 size=800000. ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:20 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000ec00 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=febef000 size=1000. reg16: ioaddr=0xec00 size=0x100 ahc0: Reading SEEPROM...done. internal50 cable is present internal68 cable is present brdctl == 0x2c external cable not present eprom is present brdctl == 0xec low byte termination disabled, high byte termination enabled ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: Resetting Channel A ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...ahc0: 387 instructions downloaded Done ahc0: Probing channel A ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST12550N 0013" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2040MB (4178874 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 2708 cyls, 19 heads, and an average 81 sectors/track ahc0: target 1 using 16Bit transfers ahc0: target 1 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:1:0): "FUJITSU M2934Q-512 0110" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 4153MB (8506782 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 3421 cyls, 18 heads, and an average 138 sectors/track ahc0: target 2 synchronous at 5.0MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:2:0): "SONY SDT-5000 3.30" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty ahc0: target 3 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0x8 (ahc0:3:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5701TA 3136" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:3:0): CD-ROM cd present [206115 x 2048 byte records] ahc0:A:4: refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous transfers (ahc0:4:0): "ARCHIVE VIPER 2525 25462 -007" type 1 removable SCSI 1 st1(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty pci0: uses 8392704 bytes of memory from fe000000 upto febeffff. pci0: uses 272 bytes of I/O space from ec00 upto ffaf. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0065 kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x300 ed1 not found at 0x280 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface bpf: lp0 attached lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: wrong signature ff mse0 not found at 0x23c psm0: current command byte:0065 kbdio: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdio: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdio: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdio: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm0: status after reset 00 02 64 psm: status b1 03 c8 (get_mouse_buttons) psm0: status 00 02 64 psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0, 3 buttons fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in aic0 not found at 0x340 wt0 not found at 0x300 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*BNC*] address 00:60:97:13:cf:82 bpf: ep0 attached npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface imasks: bio c0000840, tty c003149a, net c003149a BIOS Geometries: 0:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors 1:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to sd1a configure() finished. bpf: tun0 attached bpf: sl0 attached bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ds0 attached sd1s1: type 0xa5, start 32, end = 8506047, size 8506016 : OK WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. --------------446B9B3D2781E494167EB0E7-- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 06:29:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26104 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26092 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA01206 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:32:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:32:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R - lynx port fails with checksum mismatch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Having installed the ports collection with 2.2R, and subsequently applied 210, 210, 211, 212 and 213 to 2.2R I cd'ed to /usr/ports/www/lynx and typed make. After finding and downloading lynx2-7.zip & 27bugfixes.zip -- BOOM, '>> Checksum mismatch for 27bugfixes.zip' and the make fails. I updated the Makefile and MD5 file from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/www/lynx, removed the downloaded files and tried again with the same result. Then I removed the downloaded files again and manually retrieved them from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles. Same error, with both the original lynx files and the updated ones. Suggestions anyone? ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 06:33:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26263 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26258 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA08692; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:33:45 -0800 (PST) To: Christoph Kukulies cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount: ufs filesystem is not available - urgent help needed In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:55:22 +0100." <199703220755.IAA14834@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 06:33:45 -0800 Message-ID: <8687.859041225@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I should have mentioned that that machine is > running 3.0-current-after-the-quake to justify posting in -cureent > rather than -hubs. If you're running a machine which provides serious services under 3.0, then god help us all. :-) Seriously, this machine should be reverted to 2.2 no matter how this all comes out. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 07:32:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27636 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 07:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA27630 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 07:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP); Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:32:00 +0000 Received: by njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org id PAA29645; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:31:58 GMT From: neil.long@materials.oxford.ac.uk (Neil J Long) Message-Id: <199703221531.PAA29645@njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Possible routed problem 2.2 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:31:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Last night during a backup (using amanda from ports to a remote server) my PC running 2.2 cvsupd up till mar 20th had a problem with the network interface. The machine was not contactable via the net but was still running when I went in to check. These are the errors logged in messages Mar 22 01:15:00 njl sendbackup[446]: error [dump returned 3, compress got signal 13] Mar 22 01:15:22 njl routed[58]: punt RTM_LOSING without gateway Mar 22 01:15:46 njl routed[58]: punt RTM_LOSING without gateway Mar 22 01:17:22 njl last message repeated 2 times Mar 22 01:23:45 njl last message repeated 5 times I tried to generate a ping out form it and got this more ~root/ping.log ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available PING 163.1.65.101 (163.1.65.101): 56 data bytes ping: wrote 163.1.65.101 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: wrote 163.1.65.101 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: wrote 163.1.65.101 64 chars, ret=-1 I killed routed and just to be sure rebuilt it (since it was -static and recent libc updates were installed without a make world), on starting it I got Mar 22 11:33:12 njl routed[3000]: Send bcast sendto(ep0, 163.1.65.255.520): No b uffer space available Mar 22 11:33:13 njl routed[3000]: sendto(ep0, 224.0.0.2): No buffer space availa ble Mar 22 11:33:19 njl last message repeated 2 times Mar 22 11:33:54 njl routed[3000]: interface ep0 to 163.1.65.100 turned off The latter after I tried to ifconfig ep0 down. It is again fine on a reboot and just to be sure I am running a make world again. I could not track down any other info but I will again run amanda dumps tomorrow. Of the 4 filesystems dumped, 3 completed OK, just the 4th one (/home) which got a quarter of the way through before the server lost contact. I have no ideas as yet whether this is an amanda problem or routed or ep0. I fI can reproduce it I will post more deatils but while the world is building I thought it worth mentioning in case anyone has had the same behaviour or any ideas what I can do to track this further. Amanda was basically pumping dump|gzip via udp to a remote server. I didn't get this problem for the last full backup a few days ago and no other machine on the same network has reported any problems at that time. Neil From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 08:48:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01139 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01119 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 08:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01517 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:51:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit, /fonts permissions? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After I had downloaded and installed (using /stand/sysinstall) the latest recompiled XFree86 3.2 I found that doing a startx as root worked as I expected, bringing up the familiar default twm screen. However doing a startx as my usual self brought up a completely default X Windows screen, sans window manager. A little investigation showed that the permissions for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 to be total 142 drwxr-xr-x 18 root 10 - 512 Mar 22 00:14 ./ drwxr-xr-x 4 root 10 - 1024 Mar 20 21:12 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 30791 Mar 16 20:23 Cards -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 25499 Mar 16 20:18 XErrorDB -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 20739 Mar 16 20:23 XF86Config.98 -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 13874 Mar 16 20:22 XF86Config.eg drwxr-xr-x 5 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:13 XF86Setup/ -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 4767 Mar 16 20:18 XKeysymDB drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 1024 Mar 20 21:11 app-defaults/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 2048 Mar 20 21:13 config/ drwxrwxr-x 4 root wheel - 1536 Mar 20 21:11 doc/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 etc/ drwx------ 8 root wheel - 512 Mar 20 21:10 fonts/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:10 fs/ drwxr-xr-x 22 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 locale/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 22 00:14 nls/ -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 17375 Mar 16 20:19 rgb.txt drwxr-xr-x 4 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 rstart/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 twm/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 x11perfcomp/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 xdm/ drwx------ 2 root wheel - 512 Mar 20 21:11 xinit/ drwxr-xr-x 11 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 xkb/ -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 8344 Mar 16 20:29 xman.help drwxr-xr-x 2 root 10 - 512 Mar 20 21:11 xsm/ note the permissions of xinit/ and fonts/, set to disallow access from anyone but the owner. Is this correct? Obviously with the defaults this way my usual self is unable to see the system default xinitrc file. Or does this version/release now assume normal users will have this file copied into their directory as .xinitrc? I don't recall having to do this in previous X installs but I haven't done a LOT of them... I chmod'ed both directories to 755 (the fonts/ I changed because it was the only different permissions setting for all the directories I see in the list) and everything is working. Did I do right or am I transgressing an unwritten law? ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 09:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15793 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (uutejb@dnttm.wave.ras.ru [194.85.104.197]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15736 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uutejb@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/IP-2) with UUCP id UAA22093 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:49:06 +0300 Received: from localhost (dima@localhost) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01884 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:43:29 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:43:27 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitrij Tejblum To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ufs is not a local filesystem in -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Today I got from /etc/weekly /usr/libexec/makewhatis.local: no local-mounted manual directories found: /usr/share/man /usr/X11R6/man /usr/local/man I tried to debug it, but with no luck. statfs always returns 0 in f_flags. Also, my mount command says: /dev/wd1a on / /dev/wd1s1f on /usr /dev/wd1s1e on /var procfs on /proc (local) /dev/wd0s1 on /c There is no (local) at /usr, ... But I found a bug in the find(1) command. Two values cannot be stored in only one variable. *** /usr/src/usr.bin/find/function.c Sat Mar 22 14:41:57 1997 --- function.c Sat Mar 22 14:41:48 1997 *************** *** 341,347 **** static dev_t curdev; /* need a guaranteed illegal dev value */ static int first = 1; struct statfs sb; ! static short val; char *p, save[2]; /* Only check when we cross mount point. */ --- 341,347 ---- static dev_t curdev; /* need a guaranteed illegal dev value */ static int first = 1; struct statfs sb; ! static int val_type, val_flags; char *p, save[2]; /* Only check when we cross mount point. */ *************** *** 380,393 **** * Further tests may need both of these values, so * always copy both of them. */ ! val = sb.f_flags; ! val = sb.f_type; } switch (plan->flags) { case F_MTFLAG: ! return (val & plan->mt_data); case F_MTTYPE: ! return (val == plan->mt_data); default: abort(); } --- 380,393 ---- * Further tests may need both of these values, so * always copy both of them. */ ! val_flags = sb.f_flags; ! val_type = sb.f_type; } switch (plan->flags) { case F_MTFLAG: ! return (val_flags & plan->mt_data) != 0; case F_MTTYPE: ! return (val_type == plan->mt_data); default: abort(); } From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 09:52:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16620 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16587 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA08762 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:52:40 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27636; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:43:48 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970322184348.AJ13622@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:43:48 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio overflows using an internal modem.. References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mar 20, 1997 17:06:41 -0400 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As The Hermit Hacker wrote: > What exactly does this mean? I'm using a 33.6 internal modem > (the *worst* decision I've ever made *sigh*) in a P133 using a March 16th > 3.0-CURRENT kernel: > > Mar 19 04:01:21 thelab /kernel: sio2: 248 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 248) > Mar 20 04:01:23 thelab /kernel: sio2: 61 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 309) > > Its the first time I've ever noticed this error message... It's probably the same interrupt latency problem that stopped my 16450 UART on the 386/sx16 notebook from working now; it worked well under 2.1.5. (Ahem, that's with 115 kbps, i mean.) I see them mostly as silo overflows, but i've also seen tty-level buffer overflows... Bruce is already alerted. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 09:53:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16678 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16652 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 09:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA08785 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:52:52 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27648; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:45:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970322184530.BI55538@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:45:30 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth R. Westerback on Mar 20, 1997 20:59:52 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Kenneth R. Westerback wrote: > I am running 2.2R plus 210 & 211. I have user ppp set up and working > great, except for one thing. Whenever I do the system > quickly dials out and then hangs up before rebooting. When I use > 'shutdown -r now' (my usual method!) this does not occur. For some strange reason, the `shutdown_nice()' in the kernel sends a SIGHUP to all processes first. I've also noticed messages like ``Reloading nameserver'' or such. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 10:01:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18409 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18397 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15322(7)>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:00:47 PST Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177486>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:00:42 -0800 From: Bill Fenner To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, neil.long@materials.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Possible routed problem 2.2 Message-Id: <97Mar22.100042pst.177486@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:00:30 PST Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The machine was not contactable via the net but was still running when I >went in to check. These are the errors logged in messages > >Mar 22 01:15:00 njl sendbackup[446]: error [dump returned 3, compress >got signal > 13] >Mar 22 01:15:22 njl routed[58]: punt RTM_LOSING without gateway >Mar 22 01:15:46 njl routed[58]: punt RTM_LOSING without gateway These mean that TCP to a machine on the local network was having trouble. (Probably just another symptom of what you show below). It's a bug in routed that it logs this fact at such a high level; the TCP trouble has nothing to do with routed. >ping: sendto: No buffer space available Looks like your machine ran out of mbuf's. If you can recreate this, try "netstat -m" and see if any category has a much higher number than the others. Bill From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 11:03:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25113 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25099 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.5/3.4W4) with ESMTP id EAA00372 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:03:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703221903.EAA00372@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: New CPU identification and initializatino routine X-Mailer: Mew version 1.54 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 04:03:18 +0900 From: KATO Takenori Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just commited new CPU identification routines. Main features of this change are as follows: A. Automatic CPU identification 1. Identify all Cyrix CPUs including M2. 2. Identify IBM Blue Lightning CPU. 3. Identify AMD Nx586 CPU. B. CPU initialization 1. Initialize special registers of Cyrix CPU. 2. Initialize msr of IBM Blue Lightning CPU. 3. Cyrix 6x86 CPU cache is enabled in write-through mode if revision of CPU < 2.7. This feature can be disabled by kernel configuration option. Kernel configuration time options are as follows: ---------- BEGIN ---------- # Options for CPU features. # # CPU_BLUELIGHTNING_FPU_OP_CACHE enables FPU operand cache on IBM # BlueLightning CPU. It works only with Cyrix FPU, and this option # should not be used with Intel FPU. # # CPU_BLUELIGHTNING_3X enables triple-clock mode on IBM Blue Lightning # CPU if CPU supports it. The default is double-clock mode on # BlueLightning CPU box. # # CPU_BTB_EN enables branch target buffer on Cyrix 5x86 (NOTE 1). # # CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER disables load store serialize (i.e. enables # reorder). This option should not be used if you use memory mapped # I/O device(s). # # CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU enables faster FPU exception handler. # # CPU_I486_ON_386 enables CPU cache on i486 based CPU upgrade products # for i386 machines. # CPU_IORT defines I/O clock delay time (NOTE 1). Default vaules of # I/O clock delay time on Cyrix 5x86 and 6x86 are 0 and 7,respectively # (no clock delay). # # CPU_LOOP_EN prevents flushing the prefetch buffer if the destination # of a jump is already present in the prefetch buffer on Cyrix 5x86(NOTE # 1). # # CPU_RSTK_EN enables return stack on Cyrix 5x86 (NOTE 1). # # CPU_SUSP_HLT enables suspend on HALT. If this option is set, CPU # enters suspend mode following execution of HALT instruction. # # CYRIX_CACHE_WORKS enables CPU cache on Cyrix 486 CPUs with cache # flush at hold state. # # CYRIX_CACHE_REALLY_WORKS enables (1) CPU cache on Cyrix 486 CPUs # without cache flush at hold state, and (2) write-back CPU cache on # Cyrix 6x86 whose revision < 2.7 (NOTE 2). # # NOTE 1: The options, CPU_BTB_EN, CPU_LOOP_EN, CPU_IORT, # CPU_LOOP_ENand CPU_RSTK_EN should no be used becasue of CPU bugs. # These options may crash your system. # # NOTE 2: If CYRIX_CACHE_REALLY_WORKS is not set, CPU cache is enabled # in write-through mode when revision < 2.7. If revision of Cyrix # 6x86 >= 2.7, CPU cache is always enabled in write-back mode. # options CPU_BLUELIGHTNING_FPU_OP_CACHE options "CPU_BLUELIGHTNING_3X" options CPU_BTB_EN options "CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER" options "CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU" options "CPU_I486_ON_386" options CPU_IORT options CPU_LOOP_EN options CPU_RSTK_EN options CPU_SUSP_HLT options CYRIX_CACHE_WORKS options CYRIX_CACHE_REALLY_WORKS ---------- END --------- If you find any problem, please let me know. Enjoy! ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 11:03:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25146 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25139 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11954; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:03:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 12:03:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703221903.MAA11954@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing In-Reply-To: <19970322184530.BI55538@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <19970322184530.BI55538@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.21 under 19.14 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am running 2.2R plus 210 & 211. I have user ppp set up and working > > great, except for one thing. Whenever I do the system > > quickly dials out and then hangs up before rebooting. When I use > > 'shutdown -r now' (my usual method!) this does not occur. > > For some strange reason, the `shutdown_nice()' in the kernel sends a > SIGHUP to all processes first. I've also noticed messages like > ``Reloading nameserver'' or such. That's because that's the way init(8) shuts things down normally. 'shutdown_nice()' simply lets sends a special ignal to init(8) like shutdown/reboot(8). Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 11:48:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27171 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27166 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id TAA00411; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:46:28 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:41:01 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:41:01 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970322184530.BI55538@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: ; from Kenneth R. Westerback on Mar 20, 1997 20:59:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 5:45 pm -0000 22/3/97, J Wunsch wrote: >For some strange reason, the `shutdown_nice()' in the kernel sends a >SIGHUP to all processes first. I've also noticed messages like >``Reloading nameserver'' or such. The SIGHUP was historically intended to 'hang up' sessions on serial ports. Processes not attached to a terminal shouldn't be sent the signal. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 13:21:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00736 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00730 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA11107; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:21:43 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28673; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:16:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970322221653.IO59701@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:16:53 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Subject: Re: 2.2-RELEASE, dtmail stopped working References: <199703202054.HAA00828@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703202054.HAA00828@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au>; from Mark Hannon on Mar 21, 1997 07:54:56 +1100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Mark Hannon wrote: > When I try and start dtmail I get a dialog box saying: > "Mailer has not been properly installed and cannot be run because > the execution group is incorrectly set" > > Things worked correctly when the machine had 2.1.7 installed. > If I su to root and run dtmail it starts OK. > > Any ideas? ktrace it, and see what it stumples across. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 13:30:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01456 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01450 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA19544; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:18:09 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703222118.OAA19544@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing To: rb@gid.co.uk (Bob Bishop) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:18:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Bob Bishop" at Mar 22, 97 07:41:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >For some strange reason, the `shutdown_nice()' in the kernel sends a > >SIGHUP to all processes first. I've also noticed messages like > >``Reloading nameserver'' or such. > > The SIGHUP was historically intended to 'hang up' sessions on serial ports. > Processes not attached to a terminal shouldn't be sent the signal. That was my impression reading this exchange as well. I think we still have issues with propagation of signals to the other processes in a process group when the group leader is signalled, as well. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 14:30:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04070 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pkrw.tcn.net (Pkrw.tcn.net [199.166.4.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04065 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (krw@localhost) by Pkrw.tcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00250 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:34:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:33:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth R. Westerback" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2R (src-2.2.0213) Handbook secion 12.1.5 (user ppp/Static IP Addresses Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I read the latest version of the Handbook section 12.1.5 and subsequent sections on setting up user ppp with a static IP address I found I had made a number of mistakes in my setup and corrected them, putting everything as in the examples provided. Unfortunately ppp then ceased to function usefully, as no default route to the outside world was established. It seemed like the 'delete ALL' and 'add 0 0 HISADDR' statements in ppp.conf and ppp.linkup were being ignored. I could telnet localhost 3000 and enter 'add 0 0 HISADDR' and then thing worked fine. Much experimentation later I found that I had a typo in my ppp.linkup file that had beem preventing its being used (wrong IP address). When I fixed this then things worked without a manual telnet and 'add 0 0 HISADDR'. Which brings me to what seems to be the error in section 12.1.5. Line 13: in the example, despite the description, apparently DOES NOT add a default route, this only happens when the 'add 0 0 HISADDR' statement in ppp.linkup is executed. Thus I think that both the 'delete ALL' and 'add 0 0 HISADDR' statements in the example shown should be deleted and the comment that ppp.linkup is optional for static IP addresses should also be deleted. Or did I do something else wrong? ---- Ken From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 14:33:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04249 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04243 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id WAA00823; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:31:23 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:24:07 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:24:07 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703222118.OAA19544@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: from "Bob Bishop" at Mar 22, 97 07:41:01 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Lambert From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 9:18 pm -0000 22/3/97, Terry Lambert wrote: >> >For some strange reason, the `shutdown_nice()' in the kernel sends a >> >SIGHUP to all processes first. I've also noticed messages like >> >``Reloading nameserver'' or such. >> >> The SIGHUP was historically intended to 'hang up' sessions on serial ports. >> Processes not attached to a terminal shouldn't be sent the signal. > >That was my impression reading this exchange as well. > >I think we still have issues with propagation of signals to the >other processes in a process group when the group leader is signalled, >as well. Quite likely; but I think that's a separate issue. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 14:51:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05075 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05059 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA00800; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:51:00 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA29650; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:33:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970322233345.VS03750@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:33:45 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: rlb@mindspring.com (Ron Bolin) Subject: Re: AHC SCSI and XMCD Halt System References: <3333DF24.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <3333DF24.41C67EA6@mindspring.com>; from Ron Bolin on Mar 22, 1997 08:31:16 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ron Bolin wrote: > When using 2.2REL ENG cvsup 3-20-97. > > System: Adaptech 2940UW and Fujitsu 2954QAU > with a Toshiba 3701B SCSI-II CDROM. > > When I use Xmcd 2.1 the system reboots (every time), it didn't do this > b4 > 3-3-97. Fix: Don't let xmcd use direct SCSI commands. They are ugly, and are totally unnecessary under FreeBSD since the official API is the ioctl commands that are also understood by the other CD-ROM device drivers, not just SCSI only. (I appreciate that other systems are much more limited in this respect, thus xmcd uses direct SCSI commands there.) Nevertheless, you might want to search for the actual bug. This probably involves enabling SCSI_DEBUG, including syslogging to a networked machine (since the kernel printf's probably won't make it to your own disk due to the SCSI problems). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 14:51:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05111 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from melbourne.dialix.com.au (seeuucp@melbourne.dialix.com.au [203.12.2.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05095 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from seeuucp@localhost) by melbourne.dialix.com.au with UUCP id JAA12657; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:50:57 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: melbourne.dialix.com.au: seeuucp set sender to mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au using -f Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by doorway.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03648; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:16:56 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:16:56 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Hannon To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2-RELEASE, dtmail stopped working In-Reply-To: <19970322221653.IO59701@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Mark Hannon wrote: > > > When I try and start dtmail I get a dialog box saying: > > "Mailer has not been properly installed and cannot be run because > > the execution group is incorrectly set" > > > > Things worked correctly when the machine had 2.1.7 installed. > > If I su to root and run dtmail it starts OK. > > > > Any ideas? > > ktrace it, and see what it stumples across. > I'm working on it. As dtmail is sgid bin I can't ktrace it from my normal user & if I run dtmail as root it works fine :-( I did manage to ktrace from another window as root but it was a pain to setup. I will try and setup a trace with the 2.2-RELEASE kernel (not working) and compare it with a trace from the 2.2-GAMMA kernel (working). Regards/Mark +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD, Free Unix for your PC | mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | See http://www.freebsd.org | Unsolicited commercial | | Australia | | email not welcome! | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 14:51:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05136 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05107 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA00818; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:51:40 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA29663; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:37:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970322233753.JW30857@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:37:53 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: krw@tcn.net (Kenneth R. Westerback) Subject: Re: 2.2R /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit, /fonts permissions? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Kenneth R. Westerback on Mar 22, 1997 11:51:10 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Kenneth R. Westerback wrote: > total 142 > drwxr-xr-x 18 root 10 - 512 Mar 22 00:14 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root 10 - 1024 Mar 20 21:12 ../ > -r--r--r-- 1 root 10 - 30791 Mar 16 20:23 Cards > drwx------ 8 root wheel - 512 Mar 20 21:10 fonts/ > drwx------ 2 root wheel - 512 Mar 20 21:11 xinit/ > note the permissions of xinit/ and fonts/, set to disallow access from > anyone but the owner. Is this correct? This looks like they have been created by cpio using the -d option, where the directories haven't been stored in the cpio archive itself (but only the files in these directories). cpio creates missing directories mode 0700 in this case. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 15:20:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06548 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from werple.net.au (melb.werple.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06541 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22625 invoked by uid 5); 22 Mar 1997 23:20:10 -0000 Received: (from jb@localhost) by freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16940 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:20:20 +1100 (EST) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199703222320.KAA16940@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Subject: src/Makefile via sup To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:20:19 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Umm, just thought I'd get my feet wet for the first time after the Lite2 merge, so I supped (I don't use CVSup 'cause of 2.1.5 on this machine) and went to dive in, only to find there was no water there! 8-) src/Makefile got deleted! So I clobbered my sup/src-base and re-supped. src-base contains no files on sup.physics.usyd.edu.au. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@netbsd.org CIMlogic Pty Ltd, 119 Cecil Street, South Melbourne Vic 3205, Australia Tel +61 3 9690 6900 Fax +61 3 9690 6650 Mob +61 418 353 137 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 16:39:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10703 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA10698 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA19751; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:26:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199703230026.RAA19751@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 2.2R (src 2.2 211): == dialing To: rb@gid.co.uk (Bob Bishop) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:26:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Bob Bishop" at Mar 22, 97 10:24:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> The SIGHUP was historically intended to 'hang up' sessions on serial ports. > >> Processes not attached to a terminal shouldn't be sent the signal. > > > >That was my impression reading this exchange as well. > > > >I think we still have issues with propagation of signals to the > >other processes in a process group when the group leader is signalled, > >as well. > > Quite likely; but I think that's a separate issue. That depends on how the shutdown is sending it's SIGHUP to everybody. REgards Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 17:52:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14300 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from melbourne.dialix.com.au (seeuucp@melbourne.dialix.com.au [203.12.2.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14293 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from seeuucp@localhost) by melbourne.dialix.com.au with UUCP id MAA02792; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:51:23 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: melbourne.dialix.com.au: seeuucp set sender to mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au using -f Received: from putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au [10.0.0.1]) by doorway.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04030; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:14:35 +1100 (EST) From: Mark Hannon Received: (from mark@localhost) by putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA00606; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:14:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:14:35 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199703230114.MAA00606@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: 2.2-RELEASE, dtmail stopped working Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=________________5CA552EC215C019F19283F3E Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --________________5CA552EC215C019F19283F3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: uI3jBaoTjg2TN+AN2w2ACg== X-Sun-Data-Type: text > > > As Mark Hannon wrote: > > > > > When I try and start dtmail I get a dialog box saying: > > > "Mailer has not been properly installed and cannot be run because > > > the execution group is incorrectly set" > > > > > > Things worked correctly when the machine had 2.1.7 installed. > > > If I su to root and run dtmail it starts OK. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > ktrace it, and see what it stumples across. > > > > I'm working on it. As dtmail is sgid bin I can't ktrace it from my > normal user & if I run dtmail as root it works fine :-( > > I did manage to ktrace from another window as root but it was a pain > to setup. > I can't however seem to get a trace going now. Executing ktrace -i -p 264 >From an su'd shell (where 264 is the pid of my normal tcsh) doesn't seem to give much joy. Other processes started from my normal shell are traced correctly, dtmail however doesn't trace. I have included a gzipped ascii version of the trace. Does it make sence to anyone? 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You can get them from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/CVSup/cvsup-bin-14.1.1.tar.gz -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 22 19:41:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA19322 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19316 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04121; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 19:41:11 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.current Subject: Re: src/Makefile via sup Date: 22 Mar 1997 19:41:11 -0800 Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 12 Distribution: local Message-ID: <5h28on$40m@austin.polstra.com> References: <199703222320.KAA16940@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> <199703230246.SAA03878@austin.polstra.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oops! I wrote: > The CVSup static binaries run on everything all the way back to 2.1.0, > at least. You can get them from: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/CVSup/cvsup-bin-14.1.1.tar.gz Actually, it's freefall.freebsd.org. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth