From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 00:33:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05141 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA05136 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (BFLuEOKDxGmlaYGE/JaNVKnSBzE5dRhG@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23601; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:33:45 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (SisA2hiNoK00als12OmITaItR492TKl4@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01947; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:33:42 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710120733.JAA01947@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: daniel@ncsu.edu cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kerberos IV Support Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:33:42 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Henninger wrote: > > Please update your cvsupfile. Your are missing src/crypto/... > ... > > > old eBones stuff, well, everything important seems to be missing. I am > > > indeed grabbing the listed export-restricted collections from the > > > standard-supfile: > > > src-crypto > > How so? src/crypto has everything it seems like it should have. I have > src-crypto in my supfile as shown above. > > crypto has a readme file, and a kerberosIV and telnet tree. Duh. :-) Lets start again. Please cd to src/kerberosIV, and do a script(1) of #make cleandir && make obj depend all ...and let me have a copy of that. It will have a higher chance of success if you do a make world first. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 01:11:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA07148 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA07134 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 13476 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Oct 1997 08:12:04 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: panic: free: multiple free Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hya Y'all, Am getting this with current kernel of today. Did not get it with current kernel of 971007. Happens just after fsck -p (in /etc/rc, while mounting the filesystems (quite few). Anyone seen this, ownes this, cares to comment? Thanx! --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 01:59:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09649 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09643 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14127; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:58:43 +0200 (CEST) To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:12:04 PDT." Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:58:43 +0200 Message-ID: <14125.876646723@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Simon Shapiro writes: >Hya Y'all, > >Am getting this with current kernel of today. Did not get it with current >kernel of 971007. Happens just after fsck -p (in /etc/rc, while mounting >the filesystems (quite few). > >Anyone seen this, ownes this, cares to comment? Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the details ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 02:06:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10081 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA10076 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:06:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA07666 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:06:14 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.6/brasil-1.2) with UUCP id LAA08488 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:06:01 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.7/keltia-2.11/nospam) id KAA19720; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:09:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19971012100919.57478@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:09:19 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VFAT/? Problem References: <199710120321.UAA05608@usr03.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199710120321.UAA05608@usr03.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 03:21:33AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3714 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Terry Lambert: > It is a warning of a non-standard MSDOSFS configuration, nothing more > or less. It shows up to "warn you". 8-). It may be a "non standard MSDOSFS configuration" but in my case it is a normal MSDOS configuration. I have a 200 MB primary DOS slice, the FreeBSD slice (2.8 GB) and a 1.1 GB extended DOS slice. I always get the warning when I mount the last DOS slice. I've never used FIPS or other slice reduction programs. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #36: Sat Oct 4 19:58:34 CEST 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 02:15:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10499 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from terra.stack.nl (terra.stack.nl [131.155.140.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA10489 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xaa@xaa.stack.nl) Received: from xaa.stack.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.nl (8.8.7) with UUCP id LAA13345; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:15:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from xaa@localhost) by xaa.stack.nl (8.8.7/8.8.2) id LAA00497; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:14:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971012111412.17534@xaa.stack.nl> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:14:12 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: Brian Somers Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp and uid0 Reply-To: Mark Huizer References: <19971011210557.57085@xaa.stack.nl> <199710112324.AAA09778@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199710112324.AAA09778@awfulhak.demon.co.uk>; from "Brian Somers" on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 12:24:25AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ppp can be run in -direct mode as a user as long as that user is a > member of group network. In any other mode, the user must be uid 0 - > it's too dangerous if they're not (you can do wonderful things if > you've got control over the routing table!). Hmm... but I thought that was the intention of introducing the new groupid 'network'? That will probably give you that security as well, or at least the possibilities to control it. > > To deal with your ppp-login requirement, check out the latest version > of the pppctl(8) man page (available on www.freebsd.org/~brian). I'll look at it :-) Thanks Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - We are the knights who say NuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuPOP! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 06:42:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA21214 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from iris (iris.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA21206 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:42:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@iris) Received: by iris; id AA01503; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:12:40 +0930 From: Kristian Kennaway Message-Id: <9710121342.AA01503@iris> Subject: Netscape slowness in current To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:12:39 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've recently upgraded to -current, and for the first few days everything worked great. After a recent cvsup (in which I noticed a lot of changes to the malloc routines - which may or may not be related), netscape is now taking AGES to start up - it just sits there for 5 minutes or more chewing up CPU but doing nothing. Sometimes it eventually starts, after which it seems to work fine - but other times I can just leave it seemingly indefintelty and it never starts, or starts but doesnt actually load any webpages, just sits there looking stupid. This is with both the 3.0 linux port, as well as both versions (fbsd and linux) of 4.03. Both worked reasonably (apart from regular crashes which I suspect are still due to java implementation) under 2.2-stable and for the first couple of days I was running current. Any ideas? Kris From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 07:15:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA23245 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ic.net (qmailr@srv2b.ic.net [152.160.72.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA23237 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rickl@lurch.rickl.org) Received: (qmail 15963 invoked from network); 12 Oct 1997 14:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lurch.rickl.org) (152.160.108.21) by unknown with SMTP; 12 Oct 1997 14:14:48 -0000 Received: (from rickl@localhost) by lurch.rickl.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA00392 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Lotoczky To: current@freebsd.org Subject: possible sc0 problem Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes. Rick From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 07:44:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA24780 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from iris (iris.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA24775 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@iris) Received: by iris; id AA01569; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:14:00 +0930 From: Kristian Kennaway Message-Id: <9710121444.AA01569@iris> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: rickl@ic.net (Rick Lotoczky) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:14:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Rick Lotoczky" at Oct 12, 97 10:11:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hi > > Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using > sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. > It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes. I'm glad you mentioned this - I was just figuring iout whether this was a bug or a config problem myself :) Put me down for bug now :-) Kris > > > Rick > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 08:39:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27809 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27654; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA14759; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:35:27 +0200 (CEST) To: Rick Lotoczky cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:11:17 EDT." Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:35:27 +0200 Message-ID: <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Rick Lotoczky writes: > >Hi > >Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using >sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. >It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes. I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... Soren ??? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 09:42:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01752 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01724; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp id AA17446; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:40:45 +0900 Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id BAA24492; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:47:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710121647.BAA24492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Rick Lotoczky , current@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:35:27 +0200." <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:47:00 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In message , Rick Lotoczky writes: >> >>Hi >> >>Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using >>sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. >>It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes >. > >I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... > >Soren ??? > >-- >Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member >phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than ALT... Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? Kazu ----------------------------------------------------------------- jkh 1997/10/10 03:33:07 PDT Modified files: sys/i386/isa kbdtables.h Log: Change default keymap (I left all the international ones alone) so that LALT is META by default. This will make the emacs users happy. Approved by: sos Revision Changes Path 1.35 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/kbdtables.h ----------------------------------------------------------------- jkh 1997/10/12 09:07:46 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) sys/i386/isa isa.c kbdtables.h Log: MFC: use META instead of LALT in default keymap, conditionalize extra verbosity on bootverbose. Revision Changes Path 1.74.2.3 +4 -3 src/sys/i386/isa/isa.c 1.32.2.1 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/kbdtables.h From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 09:45:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02006 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01957; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id SAA16172; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:40:37 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121640.SAA16172@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Oct 12, 97 05:35:27 pm" To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:40:37 +0200 (MEST) Cc: rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Poul-Henning Kamp who wrote: > In message , Rick Lotoczky writes: > > > >Hi > > > >Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using > >sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. > >It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes. > > I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... > > Soren ??? BLAME JORDAN !!! :) :) He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 09:47:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02176 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02093; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA14857; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:45:16 +0200 (CEST) To: Søren Schmidt cc: rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:40:37 +0200." <199710121640.SAA16172@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:45:16 +0200 Message-ID: <14855.876674716@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199710121640.SAA16172@sos.freebsd.dk>, Søren Schmidt writes: >In reply to Poul-Henning Kamp who wrote: >> In message , Rick Lotoczky writes: >> > >> >Hi >> > >> >Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using >> >sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. >> >It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup chang >es. >> >> I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... >> >> Soren ??? > >BLAME JORDAN !!! :) :) > >He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it >prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... > Uhm, Jordan, do you have a moment ? Can you remmeber where we have that special version of the pointed hat that says "POLA" in large friendly letters on the front ? Right, could you ask hit to send it back to you ? And just keep it around until somebody claims it, will you ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:05:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA02962 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02955; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA16233; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:01:41 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121701.TAA16233@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <199710121647.BAA24492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> from Kazutaka YOKOTA at "Oct 13, 97 01:47:00 am" To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (Kazutaka YOKOTA) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:01:41 +0200 (MEST) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Kazutaka YOKOTA who wrote: > > See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than > ALT... > > Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? Hmm, not that easy if its going to be configurable in the keymap UNLESS we invent a new row (hell SCO compatibility doesn't mean much anymore, now does it :) ) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:13:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03465 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA03450; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA29523; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Rick Lotoczky , current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:35:27 +0200." <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:11:25 -0700 Message-ID: <29519.876676285@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message , Rick Lotoczky writes: > > > >Hi > > > >Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using > >sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. > >It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup change s. > > I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... > > Soren ??? Before we blame Soren, what are we all talking about here? The Alt key is on the right now, as per my change to kbdtables.h, and the left Alt key is now META so that bash and emacs and other users who are used to saying things like "M-F" to move forward a word can now do this with syscons's out-of-box configuration. There are a couple of open PRs (if I can only find them) over this one and I just finally decided to do something about it. Before now, we had no default meta key at all. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:35:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA04623 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04595; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07541; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27736; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:34:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:34:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710121734.LAA27736@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Rick Lotoczky , jkh@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <14757.876670527@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Did I miss something or did the virtual terminal capability go away using > >sc0? It was working fine with the -current kernel from a few days ago. > >It seems to have broken this morning (10/12/97) with the latest cvsup changes. > > I saw the same thing. Use the right ALT key as a workaround... It's probably this: jkh 1997/10/10 03:33:07 PDT Modified files: sys/i386/isa kbdtables.h Log: Change default keymap (I left all the international ones alone) so that LALT is META by default. This will make the emacs users happy. Approved by: sos Revision Changes Path 1.35 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/kbdtables.h Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:38:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA04823 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04769; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03333; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:34:20 -0700 (PDT) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Rick Lotoczky , current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:47:00 +0900." <199710121647.BAA24492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:34:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3329.876677660@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than > ALT... > > Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? I'd be happy if that could be made to work, but how would we do it? I don't see anything among the 8 possible states which indicates this key + a FN key. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:40:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05008 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04950; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03353; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) To: S ren Schmidt cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp), rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:40:37 +0200." <199710121640.SAA16172@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:34:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3350.876677687@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it > prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... It does? I thought it just set the 8th bit. :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:43:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05209 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05190; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03401; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:38:36 -0700 (PDT) To: S ren Schmidt cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (Kazutaka YOKOTA), phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:01:41 +0200." <199710121701.TAA16233@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:38:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3398.876677916@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hmm, not that easy if its going to be configurable in the keymap > UNLESS we invent a new row (hell SCO compatibility doesn't mean > much anymore, now does it :) ) Certainly not if you're comparing it to current technology, no. I'm not even sure that SCO is all that compatible with SCO anymore. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:46:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05356 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04847; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03382; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT) To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Søren Schmidt , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:45:16 +0200." <14855.876674716@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:37:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can you remmeber where we have that special version of the pointed > hat that says "POLA" in large friendly letters on the front ? Not much of an argument for me since the very first time I tried to use this without a custom keymap, POLA was violated. I *expect* that to be my META key and evidently so do a number of other folks. Now if you want to argue this from a *precedent* vs POLA perspective then I'll give LALT full marks for precedence. If a compromise could be reached which would leave this as META for us emacs users (and trust me, LALT is *the* key we need it to be - nothing else is situated as well on the keyboard as a modifier) let still act the same when mated with a function key, I'd be all for it. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:50:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05525 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:50:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05472; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA16460; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:46:10 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121746.TAA16460@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <3350.876677687@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Oct 12, 97 10:34:47 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:46:09 +0200 (MEST) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote: > > He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it > > prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... > > It does? I thought it just set the 8th bit. :) Nope, that would make it useless in the real world, remember you live in a 7bit disabled world, the rest of us don't :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:52:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05669 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05591; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA16470; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:49:51 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121749.TAA16470@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <3398.876677916@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Oct 12, 97 10:38:36 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:49:51 +0200 (MEST) Cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote: > > Hmm, not that easy if its going to be configurable in the keymap > > UNLESS we invent a new row (hell SCO compatibility doesn't mean > > much anymore, now does it :) ) > > Certainly not if you're comparing it to current technology, no. I'm > not even sure that SCO is all that compatible with SCO anymore. :-) Yes they are, at least in the latest I've seen, nobody does anything to textmode screens anymore, they are kind of out of fashion. What I really meant, was that we now have so much momentum, that we can set our own rules here... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 10:59:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA06094 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from bookcase.com (root@notes.bookcase.com [207.22.115.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06087 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chadf@bookcase.com) Received: from localhost (chadf@localhost) by bookcase.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00445 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:59:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chad M. Fraleigh" X-Sender: chadf@notes To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Missing #ifdef in su.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While compiling su to fix a SIGSEG on an older release (yeah I'm too lazy to upgrade the whole thing right now), I noticed it wasn't completely #ifdef LOGIN_CAP clean. Here's the patch: *** su.c.orig Mon Sep 29 06:51:44 1997 --- su.c Sun Oct 12 13:48:19 1997 *************** *** 410,416 **** --- 410,418 ---- syslog(LOG_NOTICE|LOG_AUTH, "%s to %s%s", username, user, ontty()); + #ifdef LOGIN_CAP login_close(lc); + #endif execv(shell, np); err(1, "%s", shell); -Chad From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 11:25:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA07416 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:25:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07399 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id UAA16562 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:22:53 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121822.UAA16562@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: multiple cd drives, how to... To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:22:53 +0200 (MEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently implementing support for multiple CD drives in the ATAPI driver, question is how to switch the CD. Should it be done by using the patition (a-h) gives which gives 8 possibilities, or should it be coded into the minor number. Another possiblity is to use the cdcontrol program via ioctls to switch. Votes ?? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 11:35:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08007 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07825; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA16761; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:30:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <29519.876676285@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Oct 12, 97 10:11:25 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Before we blame Soren, what are we all talking about here? The Alt > key is on the right now, as per my change to kbdtables.h, and the left At least on the german keyboard, the right ALT key (marked with ``Alt'') is on the left side, and the right ALT key for switching to another vtty is marked with ``Alt Gr''. So this might provoke some fun in FreeBSD-questions if a newbie is guided to through installing 2.2.5 and is asked to press the right ALT key and F2. The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 11:43:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08380 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08373 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22254; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:44:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:44:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <29519.876676285@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > this with syscons's out-of-box configuration. There are a couple of > open PRs (if I can only find them) over this one and I just finally > decided to do something about it. Before now, we had no default > meta key at all. You can add this one as a PR: this change makes Polish keyboard unusable - we use RALT to enter national characters (like RALT-a=±), and LALT to enter 'Alt-a'. With this change, we can't do it (since LALT-a becomes M-a, and RALT-a stays [rightly] ±). Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:07:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA09484 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA09464; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05588; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199710121905.PAA05588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Søren Schmidt , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> References: <14855.876674716@critter.freebsd.dk> <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > be reached which would leave this as META for us emacs users (and > trust me, LALT is *the* key we need it to be - nothing else is > situated as well on the keyboard as a modifier) let still act the same > when mated with a function key, I'd be all for it. I'd be happy to send you my /etc/keymap file... And it actually does the right thing (sets the high bit rather than prepending escape). You could have the package installer notice if the user tries to install `?emacs-*' and automatically set the keymap to `us.emacs' or something... -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:09:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA09568 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA09560 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA15161; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:08:44 +0200 (CEST) To: Søren Schmidt cc: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:22:53 +0200." <199710121822.UAA16562@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:08:44 +0200 Message-ID: <15159.876683324@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199710121822.UAA16562@sos.freebsd.dk>, Søren Schmidt writes: > >I'm currently implementing support for multiple CD drives in the ATAPI >driver, question is how to switch the CD. >Should it be done by using the patition (a-h) gives which gives 8 >possibilities, or should it be coded into the minor number. >Another possiblity is to use the cdcontrol program via ioctls to >switch. > >Votes ?? Do not use the partitions. Why don't you just take the number of drive numbers you need ? That way you can mount all of the CD's and the changer will plug in whatever one you access. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:27:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10216 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10204 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id VAA16812; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:25:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121925.VAA16812@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... In-Reply-To: <15159.876683324@critter.freebsd.dk> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Oct 12, 97 09:08:44 pm" To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:25:58 +0200 (MEST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Poul-Henning Kamp who wrote: > In message <199710121822.UAA16562@sos.freebsd.dk>, Søren Schmidt writes: > > > >I'm currently implementing support for multiple CD drives in the ATAPI > >driver, question is how to switch the CD. > >Should it be done by using the patition (a-h) gives which gives 8 > >possibilities, or should it be coded into the minor number. > >Another possiblity is to use the cdcontrol program via ioctls to > >switch. > > > >Votes ?? > > Do not use the partitions. Why don't you just take the number of > drive numbers you need ? That way you can mount all of the CD's > and the changer will plug in whatever one you access. That was kind of my idea as well, on probe decide how many "drives" (= minors) this drive has, and allocating those I cannot wait to se it trying to shuffle CD's trying to keep up with 4 ls's on the mounted CD's :), that should be a pretty good test .... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:35:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10564 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA10544 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 14290 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Oct 1997 19:35:28 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14125.876646723@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Poul-Henning Kamp; On 12-Oct-97 you wrote: > In message , Simon Shapiro > writes: > >Hya Y'all, > > > >Am getting this with current kernel of today. Did not get it with > >current > >kernel of 971007. Happens just after fsck -p (in /etc/rc, while > >mounting > >the filesystems (quite few). > > > >Anyone seen this, ownes this, cares to comment? > > Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the > details ? Nope. Classified top secret :-) System builds and boots normally. starts the mount -a (I think), and then I get the panic. It does not drop into the debugger :-( I really do not know what else to say. Do you want the config files? Should I embed some debugging messages somewhere? Do you want to login to the system? --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:35:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10584 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10496; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id VAA16825; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:30:24 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710121930.VAA16825@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <199710121905.PAA05588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Oct 12, 97 03:05:39 pm" To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:30:24 +0200 (MEST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Garrett Wollman who wrote: > < said: > > > be reached which would leave this as META for us emacs users (and > > trust me, LALT is *the* key we need it to be - nothing else is > > situated as well on the keyboard as a modifier) let still act the same > > when mated with a function key, I'd be all for it. > > I'd be happy to send you my /etc/keymap file... And it actually does > the right thing (sets the high bit rather than prepending escape). That is not the right thing!! When do you 7bit handicapped yankies get it that almost evrybody else on this globe use 8bit chars ! > You could have the package installer notice if the user tries to > install `?emacs-*' and automatically set the keymap to `us.emacs' or > something... Yeah, delight, then I get a US keymap that fits @£$!!#€ on my danish keyboard, great idea !! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:41:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10875 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10755; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA05686; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:36:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199710121936.PAA05686@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Søren Schmidt Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman), jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <199710121930.VAA16825@sos.freebsd.dk> References: <199710121905.PAA05588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199710121930.VAA16825@sos.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> I'd be happy to send you my /etc/keymap file... And it actually does >> the right thing (sets the high bit rather than prepending escape). > That is not the right thing!! When do you 7bit handicapped yankies > get it that almost evrybody else on this globe use 8bit chars ! I don't care what you use, it's of no relevance to me. (Those other languages are all obsolete anyway... ) What may or may not happen to be the right thing for you is not particularly relevant to what the right thing is for Emacs, an editor whose original user-interface design was on systems with NINE-bit characters (later extended to twelve). Being restricted to only eight bits severely limits the available single-chord Emacs commands. (Many of the extended Emacs key sequences were single-chord commands on a Knight or Space-Cadet keyboard.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 12:41:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10924 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zeppelin.net (hay-ca2-08.ix.netcom.com [205.184.188.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10915 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrh@zeppelin.net) Received: (from jrh@localhost) by zeppelin.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA29756 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9710121342.AA01503@iris> X-Marks: The Spot Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Howard To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Netscape slowness in current Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This was discussed a while back, it seems, for some reason that still doesn't make much sense to me, that adding (before the execution of netscape.bin) : export XCMSDB; XCMSDB=/dev/null to /usr/local/bin/netscape causes it to startup. Also, removing user_pref("browser.startup.license_accepted", "1000 4.03b8"); from ~/.netscape/preferences.js seems to do the trick. On 12-Oct-97 Kristian Kennaway wrote: > > Any ideas? > > Kris > --- Josh Howard (jrh@zeppelin.net) -- http://www.zeppelin.net I am so optimistic about beef prices that I've just leased a pot roast with an option to buy. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:24:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13306 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13281; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA04420; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Wolfgang Helbig cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:30:13 +0200." <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:20:39 -0700 Message-ID: <4416.876687639@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. Already done, while we ponder this one. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:28:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13652 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13645 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19294; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:28:44 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122028.NAA19294@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: VFAT/? Problem To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971012100919.57478@keltia.freenix.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Oct 12, 97 10:09:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It is a warning of a non-standard MSDOSFS configuration, nothing more > > or less. It shows up to "warn you". 8-). > > It may be a "non standard MSDOSFS configuration" but in my case it is a > normal MSDOS configuration. I have a 200 MB primary DOS slice, the FreeBSD > slice (2.8 GB) and a 1.1 GB extended DOS slice. I always get the warning > when I mount the last DOS slice. > > I've never used FIPS or other slice reduction programs. But you did pick something other than "use maximum possible space" when creating the DOS partition (clearly, if it's near the end of the disk, it's not likely to do the "minimal cluster size" right on the expected boundary. The use of extended DOS slices postdates the mtools release from which the warning algorithm was derived. Really, the slice code needs to change to a hiearchical model, and the MSDOSFS code needs rewritten. Removing the message before the code is otherwise rewritten would be a mistake. Consider the message going away as "payment" for doing the rewrite. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:33:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13994 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13690 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:29:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15304; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:28:29 +0200 (CEST) To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:35:28 PDT." Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: <15302.876688109@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Simon Shapiro writes: > >Hi Poul-Henning Kamp; On 12-Oct-97 you wrote: >> In message , Simon Shapiro >> writes: >> >Hya Y'all, >> > >> >Am getting this with current kernel of today. Did not get it with >> >current >> >kernel of 971007. Happens just after fsck -p (in /etc/rc, while >> >mounting >> >the filesystems (quite few). >> > >> >Anyone seen this, ownes this, cares to comment? >> >> Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the >> details ? > >Nope. Classified top secret :-) > >System builds and boots normally. starts the mount -a (I think), and then >I get the panic. It does not drop into the debugger :-( >I really do not know what else to say. Do you want the config files? >Should I embed some debugging messages somewhere? Do you want to login to >the system? As a minimum the config file, /etc/fstab and a dmesg output. If you could boot it on a serial console and grab what comes by it would be fine. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:36:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14307 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14287 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03569; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:35:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710122035.VAA03569@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Alex cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc-all collection? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:28:20 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:35:36 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've noticed a fair ammount of cvs commits to the doc/ directory, so I > decided to add doc-all to my cvsup configuration file (or whatever you > want to call it). However to make the sgml files into html, et. al. files > I guess ya gotta install sgmlfmt and install that (the packages really > need updating, not even close to in sync with the ports). All went well > until I tried to run make install. I'm thinking perhaps make world could > make the skeleton directories for FAQ and handbook? What exactly went wrong ? AFAIK, /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ} are created at installation time. > - alex > -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:39:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14582 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14563; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19727; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:37:40 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122037.NAA19727@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (Kazutaka YOKOTA) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <199710121647.BAA24492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> from "Kazutaka YOKOTA" at Oct 13, 97 01:47:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than > ALT... > > Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? Funny, my keycap still reads "Alt"... do you think my keyboard is broken? Or is it just a bug in the code that doesn't rewrite the keycap? 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:39:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14591 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14549; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19590; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:35:54 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122035.NAA19590@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: sos@sos.freebsd.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:35:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710121640.SAA16172@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Oct 12, 97 06:40:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > BLAME JORDAN !!! :) :) > > He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it > prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... Meta is supposed to set bit 8 on the characters hit with it set. Otherwise we would lose the historical significance of "buckey-bits", a great loss to mankind. Yes, this conflicts with International character sets. Emacs predates Internationalization. Fix Emacs, if it upsets you. Or use only English or 7 bit National Replaement Character Sets in it, as the original designers intended. 8-) 8-). Really, Emacs should be smart enough to determine the Alt key state on its own, if it wants that binding for the key. Probably it should use "scan code mode" on the console, and many Wyse terminals that support it (like the Wyse 60) so it can assign meaning to key-down/key-up events as much or as little as it wants. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:42:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14887 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14831; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19907; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:40:53 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122040.NAA19907@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: sos@sos.freebsd.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710121701.TAA16233@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Oct 12, 97 07:01:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than > > ALT... > > > > Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? > > Hmm, not that easy if its going to be configurable in the keymap > UNLESS we invent a new row (hell SCO compatibility doesn't mean > much anymore, now does it :) ) SCO supports console scan code modes. It does do for "DOSMerge", among other things. Wyse-60's (the first serial terminal to support DOSMerge) also support scan code modes. Seeems like a console compatability issue, to me. Note that MS Word for SCO and WordPerfect for SCO also use this mode on the console to make it behave as closely as possible to their behaviour under DOS (they also have terminal description files for the Wyse-60 for scan code mode for the same reason). Terry "I wrote a Wyse-60 emulator" Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:49:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15218 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15154; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20068; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:44:45 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122044.NAA20068@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: sos@sos.freebsd.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:44:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710121746.TAA16460@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Oct 12, 97 07:46:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it > > > prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... > > > > It does? I thought it just set the 8th bit. :) > > Nope, that would make it useless in the real world, remember you > live in a 7bit disabled world, the rest of us don't :) The VT220 manual shows 7 bit National Replacement Character Sets for Western European countries, including Germany. 8-) 8-). I remember running Emacs in LISP on TOPS-10. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 13:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15620 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15416; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20684; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:51:46 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122051.NAA20684@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: sos@sos.freebsd.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710121930.VAA16825@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Oct 12, 97 09:30:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'd be happy to send you my /etc/keymap file... And it actually does > > the right thing (sets the high bit rather than prepending escape). > > That is not the right thing!! When do you 7bit handicapped yankies > get it that almost evrybody else on this globe use 8bit chars ! When someone from a country without an NRCS weighs in, I suppose... 8-). Seriously, Emacs is showing its age here; the correct fix is to fix Emacs to use a key-down/key-up mechanism if it wants to know the state of shift keys like "left shift", "right shift", "ctrl", "left alt", and "right alt", respectively. Alternately, use an X version of it, which is already interfaced this way Or use an editor that isn't expecting to toggle the high bit of a 7 bit ASCII character set to promiscuously encode key state for a key that never made it to the big time anywhere but the MIT media lab and SAIL. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 14:08:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA16145 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from terra.stack.nl (terra.stack.nl [131.155.140.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16138 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@xaa.stack.nl) Received: from xaa.stack.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.nl (8.8.7) with UUCP id XAA19191; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:08:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by xaa.stack.nl (8.8.7/8.8.2) id XAA03638; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:07:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971012230746.28555@xaa.stack.nl> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:07:46 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: Simon Shapiro Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free References: <14125.876646723@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 12:35:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the > > details ? > > Nope. Classified top secret :-) > > System builds and boots normally. starts the mount -a (I think), and then > I get the panic. It does not drop into the debugger :-( > I really do not know what else to say. Do you want the config files? > Should I embed some debugging messages somewhere? Do you want to login to > the system? > I have the same problem right after the probing and it drops into the debugger. If anyone tells me how I can make it coredump from there, I'll send you the backtrace :-) Mark From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 14:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA16761 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16756 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA15550; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:19:07 +0200 (CEST) To: Mark Huizer cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:07:46 +0200." <19971012230746.28555@xaa.stack.nl> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:19:07 +0200 Message-ID: <15548.876691147@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971012230746.28555@xaa.stack.nl>, Mark Huizer writes: >> > Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the >> > details ? >> >> Nope. Classified top secret :-) >> >> System builds and boots normally. starts the mount -a (I think), and then >> I get the panic. It does not drop into the debugger :-( >> I really do not know what else to say. Do you want the config files? >> Should I embed some debugging messages somewhere? Do you want to login to >> the system? >> >I have the same problem right after the probing and it drops into the >debugger. >If anyone tells me how I can make it coredump from there, I'll send >you the backtrace :-) Send me the output of trace and show reg Also your config file and a dmesg output. Have you tried recompiling your kernel from scratch ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 15:03:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA19864 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA19851 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09859; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:03:24 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710122203.XAA09859@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Kristian Kennaway cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape slowness in current In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:12:39 +0930." <9710121342.AA01503@iris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:03:24 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've recently upgraded to -current, and for the first few days everything > worked great. After a recent cvsup (in which I noticed a lot of changes to > the malloc routines - which may or may not be related), netscape is now > taking AGES to start up - it just sits there for 5 minutes or more > chewing up CPU but doing nothing. > > Sometimes it eventually starts, after which it seems to work fine - but > other times I can just leave it seemingly indefintelty and it never > starts, or starts but doesnt actually load any webpages, just sits there > looking stupid. > > This is with both the 3.0 linux port, as well as both versions (fbsd and > linux) of 4.03. Both worked reasonably (apart from regular crashes which > I suspect are still due to java implementation) under 2.2-stable and for > the first couple of days I was running current. > > Any ideas? If you're using ppp, I've just un-spammed the code. It was screwed up by me on the sixth of this month. The spammed version runs at about 1/4 speed and spends a lot of time "hiccuping" when traffic is high. Good versions are now in 2.2, -current and on http://www.freebsd.org/~brian Sorry folks. > Kris -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 15:21:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA20981 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA20969 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA06445 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:21:48 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA04296; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:12:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013001200.NH37813@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:12:00 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... References: <199710121822.UAA16562@sos.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199710121822=2EUAA16562=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Oct_12=2C_1997_20=3A22=3A53_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Søren Schmidt wrote: > I'm currently implementing support for multiple CD drives in the ATAPI > driver, question is how to switch the CD. > Should it be done by using the patition (a-h) gives which gives 8 > possibilities, or should it be coded into the minor number. Try to use the same method cd(4) is using. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 15:43:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA24053 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24028 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22453; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd022450; Sun Oct 12 22:31:12 1997 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Mark Huizer , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-Reply-To: <16442.876693050@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk duh, braino on my part.. pointy hat here please. (works on my site though puzzelingly enough) I just checked in a change to src/sys/miscfs/devfs/devfs_tree.c if you have compiled devfs and your kernel crashes on boot you'll want to get this one... On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > I have taken a brief look (it's midnight in Denmark too :-) > I will not rule out that this is indeed a genuine bug in DEVFS > where the same name is free()'ed more than once. > > I've Cc'ed Julian "Devfs" Elischer. > > Why it shows it head now I don't know. > > Poul-Henning > > In message <19971012233705.41215@xaa.stack.nl>, Mark Huizer writes: > >> At the very least give me the top three lines from trace... > > > >Debugger > >Panic :-) > >But I won't count these: > > > >free(f0672300,f02078d0,f0672300,f0672300,f0cafc08) free+0xd7 > >devfs_dn_free(f0672300) devfs_dn_free+4a > >dev_free_name(f0663280,f0673190,4,f0673000,f0a2fc838) +0x72 > > > >and further (no parameters, sorry :-) > >devfs_remove_dv > >dsgone > >dsopen > >wdopen > >spec_open > >ffs_mountfs > >ffs_mount > >vfs_mountroot > >xxx_vfs_mountroot > >main > >begin > > > >Hmm... probably the difference with the other person is the fact that I > >have DEVFS compiled in. I could have a look at some code, but well, mine > >is not all the time in the world this week, maybe next week, after > >graduation :-) > > > >But if there is anything I can do, please let me now. If you think you > >really need a good way to investigate, I could bring it to the > >university tomorrow and hang it on the serial port of my FreeBSD machine > >there and give you an account or something. > > > >Mark > >> > >> -- > >> Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > >> phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- Faith is good, but skepticism is better (Guiseppe Verdi) - > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 15:48:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA24476 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA24460 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA28897 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:48:00 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20370 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:48:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Current Subject: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, my notebook has a in it as it is probed by the 2.2.2-PAO software. 2.2.2-RELEASE+PAO is working just fine. -Current has no support for it. Booting verbose shows: t 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: chip1: rev 0xfe int a irq 255 on pci0.16.0 Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: found-> vendor=0x102c, dev=0x00dc, revid=0x00 Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: map[0]: type 1, range 32, base c0000000, size 23 I managed to patch pcic.c to get the pci-device probed, but not to get the pci device probed but not to get the device working. ( No "PC-Card Cirrus Logic PD6729 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows)...pcic: controller irq 3... Card inserted, slot 0..." Messages at the end of bootmessages ) Any chance to get the PAO stuff merged which has support for some additional PCMCIA-cards. Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. The documentation states the sound-system to be a OPTI 82C930 and SB-PRO compliant. Unfortunatly only the opl0 driver gets probed and attached. sb0 not found at 0x220 sbxvi0 not found at 0xffffffff sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 opl0 at 0x388 on isa opl0: Any ideas? Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 15:56:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25464 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (tibet-47.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.9.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25459 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA17803; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Brian Somers cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc-all collection? In-Reply-To: <199710122035.VAA03569@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > I've noticed a fair ammount of cvs commits to the doc/ directory, so I > > decided to add doc-all to my cvsup configuration file (or whatever you > > want to call it). However to make the sgml files into html, et. al. files > > I guess ya gotta install sgmlfmt and install that (the packages really > > need updating, not even close to in sync with the ports). All went well > > until I tried to run make install. I'm thinking perhaps make world could > > make the skeleton directories for FAQ and handbook? > > What exactly went wrong ? AFAIK, /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ} are > created at installation time. I didn't load the doc distribution so the directories weren't created, despite countless make worlds, running make install on /usr/doc gave install fits, as those directories weren't there. To add insult to this, install gave a rather ambiguious syntax error. P.S. chap/pap on ppp still gives me fits. ;-) - alex From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 16:14:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26482 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26476 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA13583; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:49:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:49:16 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Brian Somers cc: Alex , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc-all collection? In-Reply-To: <199710122035.VAA03569@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > until I tried to run make install. I'm thinking perhaps make world could > > make the skeleton directories for FAQ and handbook? > > What exactly went wrong ? AFAIK, /usr/share/doc/{handbook,FAQ} are > created at installation time. Since they were ripped out of the source tree, there have been some loose ends flapping in the breeze. Installation is one of them. My intention was to wrap them up as ports and install them in /usr/local/share/doc but I have not had time to work out the details. One problem is that these documents to really exist as distinct versions. The approach I first took in porting was to have the "version" be the date of the build and not use the checksum mechanism. I posted the dilemma to the ports list and my solution was sort of frowned upon and I have not done anything with it since. Basically, in my mind, the only reason the handbook and FAQ are in the CVS repository on freefall is for convenient access to people in a position to work on it. All other ties (save the lingering bsd.sgml.mk) to the "official" FreeBSD source have been cut. Unlike man pages which are intimately tied to specific pieces of code in FreeBSD, the FAQ and Handbook cut across versions and having 3 separate versions on 3 separate CVS branches was nothing more than a large headache. They also required bringing in extra bloat (sgml tools) to the source tree and binary core binary distributions. One of these days, I'll try and get the loose ends tied up, but if someone beats me to it, I'll be more than happy. I'll send my half-baked port to anyone interested! -john From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 16:17:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26679 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26664; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA11595; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:46:16 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013084616.46236@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:46:16 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <199710121746.TAA16460@sos.freebsd.dk> <199710122044.NAA20068@usr05.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710122044.NAA20068@usr05.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 08:44:44PM +0000 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 08:44:44PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>>> He's the one that wanted the left ALT key to behave like META, ie it >>>> prepends an ESC to the key pressed (for EMACS fanatics).... >>> >>> It does? I thought it just set the 8th bit. :) >> >> Nope, that would make it useless in the real world, remember you >> live in a 7bit disabled world, the rest of us don't :) > > The VT220 manual shows 7 bit National Replacement Character Sets for > Western European countries, including Germany. 8-) 8-). So what? Nobody uses them, because they're hopelessly restrictive. > I remember running Emacs in LISP on TOPS-10. And not again since? Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 16:55:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29175 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28966; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA13376; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:24:05 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013092405.17126@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:24:05 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Wolfgang Helbig Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <29519.876676285@time.cdrom.com> <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de>; from Wolfgang Helbig on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 08:30:13PM +0200 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 08:30:13PM +0200, Wolfgang Helbig wrote: >> Before we blame Soren, what are we all talking about here? The Alt >> key is on the right now, as per my change to kbdtables.h, and the left > > At least on the german keyboard, the right ALT key (marked with ``Alt'') > is on the left side, and the right ALT key for switching to another > vtty is marked with ``Alt Gr''. > > So this might provoke some fun in FreeBSD-questions if a newbie is > guided to through installing 2.2.5 and is asked to press the right > ALT key and F2. > > The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. I can't recall that AltGr and a function key has any meaning. Does it? Otherwise we don't have a conflict here. We could, of course, go for the right Ctrl key instead. Does anybody know of any special use for it? Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 17:01:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA29496 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29237; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA13387; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:26:11 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013092611.56013@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:26:11 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , Poul-Henning Kamp , Rick Lotoczky , current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <199710121647.BAA24492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <3329.876677660@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <3329.876677660@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 10:34:20AM -0700 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 10:34:20AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> See the following commit message. Now the left ALT is META rather than >> ALT... >> >> Maybe we had better make META+Fn act like ALT+Fn? > > I'd be happy if that could be made to work, but how would we do it? I > don't see anything among the 8 possible states which indicates this > key + a FN key. You might want to bind something to this combination. In fact, I *do* have Emacs bindings like Alt-F9. They work because you need Ctrl-Alt-F* to change windows (at least under XInside, which I use). If we're going to remap things, we should try to ensure that this still works too. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 17:10:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA00358 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00348 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA09904; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29224; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710130010.SAA29224@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > my notebook has a in it > as it is probed by the 2.2.2-PAO software. 2.2.2-RELEASE+PAO is > working just fine. Is this one of the 'PCI' chipsets? > -Current has no support for it. Booting verbose shows: > t 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: chip1: rev 0xfe int a irq 255 on pci0.16.0 > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: found-> vendor=0x102c, dev=0x00dc, revid=0x00 > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: map[0]: type 1, range 32, base c0000000, size 23 Yep, it is. :( > Any chance to get the PAO stuff merged which has support for some additional > PCMCIA-cards. Certainly not in 2.2, but you could talk with PHK who started some PCI probe code in pcic, and he may be able to easily extend it to support your controler. > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. I have no idea. Is this box Plug-n-Pray? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 17:41:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA01961 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA01956; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03593; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:38:23 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710130038.RAA03593@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:38:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, sos@sos.freebsd.dk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971013084616.46236@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Oct 13, 97 08:46:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I remember running Emacs in LISP on TOPS-10. > > And not again since? Once. But I didn't inhale. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 18:39:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05472 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from meowy.angio.net (meowy.angio.net [206.197.119.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA05467 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angio@meowy.angio.net) Received: from meowy.angio.net (localhost.angio.net [127.0.0.1]) by meowy.angio.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17288; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710130139.TAA17288@meowy.angio.net> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:37:45 PDT." <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:39:24 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Now if you want to argue this from a *precedent* vs POLA perspective > then I'll give LALT full marks for precedence. If a compromise could > be reached which would leave this as META for us emacs users (and > trust me, LALT is *the* key we need it to be - nothing else is > situated as well on the keyboard as a modifier) let still act the same > when mated with a function key, I'd be all for it. Have we just stumbled upon the perfect remapping of the FreeBSD-logo key? (Er, the one that some people in washington prefer to incorrectly think of as a start-menu key)? :) -Dave From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 19:20:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07474 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA07457 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 3024 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 1997 02:20:49 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Huizer , Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Julian Elischer; On 12-Oct-97 you wrote: > > duh, braino on my part.. > pointy hat here please. > (works on my site though puzzelingly enough) > I just checked in a change to src/sys/miscfs/devfs/devfs_tree.c Yup, yup... This fixed it. Thanx! Simon From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 19:23:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07628 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07622 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA15677; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:53:01 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013115300.13821@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:53:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dave Andersen Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> <199710130139.TAA17288@meowy.angio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710130139.TAA17288@meowy.angio.net>; from Dave Andersen on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 07:39:24PM -0600 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 07:39:24PM -0600, Dave Andersen wrote: > >> Now if you want to argue this from a *precedent* vs POLA perspective >> then I'll give LALT full marks for precedence. If a compromise could >> be reached which would leave this as META for us emacs users (and >> trust me, LALT is *the* key we need it to be - nothing else is >> situated as well on the keyboard as a modifier) let still act the same >> when mated with a function key, I'd be all for it. > > Have we just stumbled upon the perfect remapping of the > FreeBSD-logo key? (Er, the one that some people in washington > prefer to incorrectly think of as a start-menu key)? Good idea, but many keyboards (including mine) don't have it. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 19:51:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA09038 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from iris (iris.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA09033 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@iris) Received: by iris; id AA02044; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:21:18 +0930 From: Kristian Kennaway Message-Id: <9710130251.AA02044@iris> Subject: Re: Netscape slowness in current To: brian@awfulhak.org (Brian Somers) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:21:17 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710122203.XAA09859@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> from "Brian Somers" at Oct 12, 97 11:03:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If you're using ppp, I've just un-spammed the code. It was screwed > up by me on the sixth of this month. The spammed version runs at > about 1/4 speed and spends a lot of time "hiccuping" when traffic is > high. That may well have been it; I'll cvsup tonight and report whether the problem goes away. Kris From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 22:46:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA19711 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA19705 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00380 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:13:52 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199710130543.PAA00380@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:30:13 +0200." <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:13:49 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Before we blame Soren, what are we all talking about here? The Alt > > key is on the right now, as per my change to kbdtables.h, and the left > > So this might provoke some fun in FreeBSD-questions if a newbie is > guided to through installing 2.2.5 and is asked to press the right > ALT key and F2. This sucks even more when you find that a lot of systems (laptops, embedded systems) don't _have_ two ALT keys. > The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still generating Meta- This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) mike From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 22:57:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA20218 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA20202; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17570; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:56:07 +0200 (CEST) To: Greg Lehey cc: Wolfgang Helbig , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:24:05 +0930." <19971013092405.17126@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: <17568.876722167@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971013092405.17126@lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: >We could, of course, go for the right Ctrl key instead. Does anybody >know of any special use for it? Yes, "Meta" when the right Alt is "Alt Gr" :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 23:35:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA22203 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA22198 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00519; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:02:21 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199710130632.QAA00519@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Michael Reifenberger cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:48:00 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:02:20 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in 2.2..2-RELEASE > and not in -current. > The documentation states the sound-system to be a OPTI 82C930 and > SB-PRO compliant. > Unfortunatly only the opl0 driver gets probed and attached. > > sb0 not found at 0x220 > sbxvi0 not found at 0xffffffff > sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > opl0: > > Any ideas? Try building a -current kernel with 'device pnp0', and see if this finds any of your sound hardware. mike From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 23:50:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA23154 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA23101; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA19442; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:15:58 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013161558.25433@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:15:58 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Wolfgang Helbig , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <19971013092405.17126@lemis.com> <17568.876722167@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <17568.876722167@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 07:56:07AM +0200 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 07:56:07AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <19971013092405.17126@lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: > >> We could, of course, go for the right Ctrl key instead. Does anybody >> know of any special use for it? > > Yes, "Meta" when the right Alt is "Alt Gr" :-) Ugh. I could accept it as a "Switch VT" key, but not as Meta. It's bad enough tying up one hand with the bucky bits. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 12 23:58:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA23826 for current-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA23820 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id IAA18242; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:58:13 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710130658.IAA18242@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... In-Reply-To: <19971013001200.NH37813@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Oct 13, 97 00:12:00 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:58:13 +0200 (MEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to J Wunsch who wrote: > As Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > I'm currently implementing support for multiple CD drives in the ATAPI > > driver, question is how to switch the CD. > > Should it be done by using the patition (a-h) gives which gives 8 > > possibilities, or should it be coded into the minor number. > > Try to use the same method cd(4) is using. Could you elaborate on that, that would save me reading to much source :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 00:15:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA25496 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25490 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA19557; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:44:48 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013164448.18208@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:44:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <199710121830.UAA16761@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> <199710130543.PAA00380@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710130543.PAA00380@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 03:13:49PM +0930 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 03:13:49PM +0930, Mike Smith wrote: >>> Before we blame Soren, what are we all talking about here? The Alt >>> key is on the right now, as per my change to kbdtables.h, and the left >> >> So this might provoke some fun in FreeBSD-questions if a newbie is >> guided to through installing 2.2.5 and is asked to press the right >> ALT key and F2. > > This sucks even more when you find that a lot of systems (laptops, > embedded systems) don't _have_ two ALT keys. > >> The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. > > The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still > generating Meta- > > This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) No fair. You came up with this idea, now prove it. I have a function M-F1 which inserts a \f(BI.\fP\| around the point. I have a function C-M-F1 which inserts a \f(CI.\fP\| around the point. How do I change for /dev/ttyv0 using the Meta key? Greg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 00:20:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA25950 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25809; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02404; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:17:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA24706; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:08:01 +0200 (CEST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Søren Schmidt , rickl@ic.net, current@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:37:45 PDT." <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:08:01 +0200 Message-ID: <24704.876726481@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> Can you remmeber where we have that special version of the pointed >> hat that says "POLA" in large friendly letters on the front ? > >Not much of an argument for me since the very first time I tried >to use this without a custom keymap, POLA was violated. I *expect* >that to be my META key and evidently so do a number of other folks. I would like to point out that most laptops only have the left alt key easily accessible... [CTRL] + [Fn] + [Alt] + [SQRT(3.141592)] doesn't count as easy. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 00:39:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA26782 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from paert.tse-online.de (paert.tse-online.de [194.97.69.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA26777 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ab@paert.tse-online.de) Received: (qmail 8950 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 1997 07:39:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19971013093906.36124@paert.tse-online.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:39:06 +0200 From: braukmann@tse-online.de To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 'od'-device / scsiconf.c / zip-drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary="sI5B81VjUb/ovA66" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Organization: TSE TeleService GmbH Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --sI5B81VjUb/ovA66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello altogether, ... is there a specific reason for omitting the obvious change to 'scsiconf.c' which would achieve 'out-of-the-box'-support for the zip-drive as an 'optical^h^h^h^h^h^h^hremovable' disc? For sure: I've read all the threads concerning 'od' / MOs and Zip-Drives I could find on 'current' and 'scsi'. 'Current'ly I have to patch 'scsiconf.c' with respect to my zip-drive after each and every cvsup manually. Regards, Andreas -- /// TSE TeleService GmbH | Gsf: Arne Reuter | /// Hovestrasse 14 | Andreas Braukmann | We do it with /// D-48351 Everswinkel | HRB: 1430, AG WAF | FreeBSD/SMP /// ------------------------------------------------------------------- /// PGP-Key: http://www.tse-online.de/~ab/public-key /// Key fingerprint: 12 13 EF BC 22 DD F4 B6 3C 25 C9 06 DC D3 45 9B --sI5B81VjUb/ovA66 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBNEHQGnKj4VjLq0fFAQFBbwP8CdAnXk1zOR2IyYjBNyus3kq/UITYkPv+ WjVoNjzQXh3j3d7Ix/8MTkVdcRqFIaFrlnFfzqUXdb0UjeL0y8Gi0AAft+IHhLxc 1D2B8DFWcY1s/3oxJcqPHUUoZYH2bWYk9MjVzhFqx3YBNB7LR9VQQR9leHP4s5Nu 7tlg1wObe84= =2wKO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sI5B81VjUb/ovA66-- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 00:58:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA28057 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA28047 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:58:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.101]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA07286 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:33:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id KAA20540 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:30:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00947; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:21:54 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <19971013102151.38373@grape.carrier.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:21:51 +0300 From: Alexander Litvin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Why? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tryed to install 3.0-971010-SNAP, and got... 2.2.5-971010-BETA ;) What's that? -- Litvin Alexander From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 01:51:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA02521 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA02507 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA01622 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:51:17 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA02260; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:41:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013084158.HG40991@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:41:58 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: lockmgr panic X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I thought we got rid of this kind of panics finally? Apparently not: uriah # dmesg -M vmcore.30 -N kernel.30 |tail bppp0: phase authenticate bppp0: phase network bppp0: phase terminate bppp0: phase dead panic: lockmgr: locking against myself syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself dumping to dev 409, offset 134464 dump 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 ... Coredump still available. Can i do something with it to help analyzing the problem? The crash happened towards the end of a `make release', apparently while writing to a vn device: panic: lockmgr: locking against myself #0 0xf01215c7 in boot () (kgdb) bt #0 0xf01215c7 in boot () #1 0xf01218a3 in panic () #2 0xf011ce40 in lockmgr () #3 0xf01c0733 in ufs_lock () #4 0xf0146847 in vn_lock () #5 0xf010b822 in vnstrategy () #6 0xf014f49a in spec_strategy () #7 0xf013a8b2 in bwrite () #8 0xf013a8fe in vn_bwrite () #9 0xf013b2a3 in vfs_bio_awrite () #10 0xf01baade in ffs_fsync () #11 0xf01b954f in ffs_sync () #12 0xf0142503 in sync () #13 0xf0121491 in boot () #14 0xf01218a3 in panic () #15 0xf011ce40 in lockmgr () #16 0xf01c0733 in ufs_lock () #17 0xf0146847 in vn_lock () #18 0xf010b822 in vnstrategy () #19 0xf014f49a in spec_strategy () #20 0xf013a8b2 in bwrite () #21 0xf013a8fe in vn_bwrite () #22 0xf013b2a3 in vfs_bio_awrite () #23 0xf013b548 in getnewbuf () #24 0xf013bbac in getblk () #25 0xf013a5f1 in bread () #26 0xf01b6e75 in ffs_balloc () #27 0xf01ba229 in ffs_write () #28 0xf010b888 in vnstrategy () #29 0xf014f49a in spec_strategy () #30 0xf01c0846 in ufs_strategy () #31 0xf013a8b2 in bwrite () #32 0xf013a8fe in vn_bwrite () #33 0xf013aa7c in bawrite () #34 0xf01ba41c in ffs_write () #35 0xf0146439 in vn_write () #36 0xf0129a5d in write () #37 0xf01df533 in syscall () -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA04729 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA04437; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id SAA20700; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:36:46 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971013183646.08998@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:36:46 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Alt and Meta mapping (was: possible sc0 problem) References: <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com> <24704.876726481@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <24704.876726481@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 09:08:01AM +0200 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 09:08:01AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3379.876677865@time.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >>> Can you remmeber where we have that special version of the pointed >>> hat that says "POLA" in large friendly letters on the front ? >> >> Not much of an argument for me since the very first time I tried >> to use this without a custom keymap, POLA was violated. I *expect* >> that to be my META key and evidently so do a number of other folks. > > I would like to point out that most laptops only have the left > alt key easily accessible... > > [CTRL] + [Fn] + [Alt] + [SQRT(3.141592)] doesn't count as easy. Most laptops, mine included require some remapping anyway. I don't think that there's an easy way to solve all problems. Inmy case, I'd rather have Alt as Meta, and use [Fn] [Alt] on the few occasions I want to switch VTs. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:13:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA04783 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA04750; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02917; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:12:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA25392; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:11:52 +0200 (CEST) To: Greg Lehey cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= , rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alt and Meta mapping (was: possible sc0 problem) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:36:46 +0930." <19971013183646.08998@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: <25390.876733912@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971013183646.08998@lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: >> I would like to point out that most laptops only have the left >> alt key easily accessible... >> >> [CTRL] + [Fn] + [Alt] + [SQRT(3.141592)] doesn't count as easy. > >Most laptops, mine included require some remapping anyway. I don't >think that there's an easy way to solve all problems. Inmy case, I'd >rather have Alt as Meta, and use [Fn] [Alt] on the few occasions I >want to switch VTs. Great fine and all that, just remember that all the people who have set up X apps (netscape!) for ALT-foo will loose with this change. I still belive the POLA should win and if you want meta on the left side, you have to move it there. I could easily be argued that an option to kbdcontrol which flips meta&alt around would be the best for all involved. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:39:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06609 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06603 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22215; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:38:47 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710130938.CAA22215@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:38:47 +0000 (GMT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710130543.PAA00380@word.smith.net.au> from "Mike Smith" at Oct 13, 97 03:13:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. > > The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still > generating Meta- > > This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) Hahahaha.... You should reassign the "Windows" key to this function... then people who wan Emacs can buy Windows keyboards... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:43:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06859 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:43:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06850 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:43:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01218; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:10:22 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199710130940.TAA01218@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: braukmann@tse-online.de cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'od'-device / scsiconf.c / zip-drive In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:39:06 +0200." <19971013093906.36124@paert.tse-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:10:21 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ... is there a specific reason for omitting the obvious change > to 'scsiconf.c' which would achieve 'out-of-the-box'-support > for the zip-drive as an 'optical^h^h^h^h^h^h^hremovable' disc? There is no need to change it. > 'Current'ly I have to patch 'scsiconf.c' with respect to my zip-drive > after each and every cvsup manually. Why? It works just fine as a removable direct-access device here. What isn't working for you? mike From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:44:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06996 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06990 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22302; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:42:33 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710130942.CAA22302@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:42:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971013164448.18208@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Oct 13, 97 04:44:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still > > generating Meta- > > > > This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) > > No fair. You came up with this idea, now prove it. > > I have a function M-F1 which inserts a \f(BI.\fP\| around the point. > I have a function C-M-F1 which inserts a \f(CI.\fP\| around the point. > How do I change for /dev/ttyv0 using the Meta key? By calling an ioctl in Emacs, which insists on defining the "right thing" in the face of ergonomics, of course... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:52:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA07522 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA07502 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA02286 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:52:13 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA26960; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:26:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013112612.HL01030@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:26:12 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... References: <19971013001200.NH37813@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199710130658.IAA18242@sos.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199710130658=2EIAA18242=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Oct_13=2C_1997_08=3A58=3A13_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Søren Schmidt wrote: > > Try to use the same method cd(4) is using. > > Could you elaborate on that, that would save me reading to much source :) Sorry, i had to read the source as well now. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 02:52:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA07540 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA07447; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22258; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 02:40:36 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710130940.CAA22258@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: grog@lemis.com, helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, jkh@time.cdrom.com, rickl@ic.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17568.876722167@critter.freebsd.dk> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Oct 13, 97 07:56:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >We could, of course, go for the right Ctrl key instead. Does anybody > >know of any special use for it? > > Yes, "Meta" when the right Alt is "Alt Gr" :-) I just have to comment on this.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Poul, I like you sense of humor. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 03:11:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA08615 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA08603 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28501; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:09:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:09:28 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson Reply-To: Doug Rabson To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Karl Denninger , Robin Cutshaw , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS cache problem in 3.0 SNAP In-Reply-To: <2907.876419943@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <19971009120208.12168@Mars.Mcs.Net>, Karl Denninger writes: > >> > >> I just upgraded to 3.0-971003-SNAP and have an NFS client problem. If > >> I change a file on the NFS server (FreeBSD 2.2.1), the change does not > >> show up on the 3.0 client > > > >This is a problem that I reported some time ago, and it remains open. > > > >Its actually quite a bit more serious than you might think; look for my > >previous message in the archives for the exact behavior(s) that are > >exhibited under different conditions. > > I backed my VOP_LOOKUP change out recently, I pressume that improved > the situation a bit or hur ? > > I'm wondering if we need a call from the nfs code to the namecache > when the nfs code decides that a directory has been changed. Anybody > know where we can detect that situation ? The nfs client calls nfs_invaldir when it detects a directory chance I think. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 03:21:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA09200 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA09178 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 03:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01333; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:47:43 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199710131017.TAA01333@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg Lehey cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:44:48 +0930." <19971013164448.18208@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:47:42 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still > > generating Meta- > > > > This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) > > No fair. You came up with this idea, now prove it. > > I have a function M-F1 which inserts a \f(BI.\fP\| around the point. > I have a function C-M-F1 which inserts a \f(CI.\fP\| around the point. > How do I change for /dev/ttyv0 using the Meta key? You do what everyone that learnt Emacs on a bad terminal does; read M- as Esc- 8) Seriously, my point was just that the "right thing" was not particularly clear. Once it has been defined, implementing it will obviously be trivial. mike From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 04:22:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA14482 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA14449 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03276; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:21:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26003; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:20:42 +0200 (CEST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: lockmgr panic In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:41:58 +0200." <19971013084158.HG40991@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <26001.876741642@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I belive you hit "the other" recursive condition in vn, which is the one we have no fix for I belive. The closest we could get would be to just queue the second buffer in vnstrategy() if we're already active, but then it may simply convert to a deadlock... I hacked this little "genuine ram disk driver" up a couple of days ago, if should do everything you would want to have done if this is for release building: /* * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * "THE BEER-WARE LICENSE" (Revision 42): * wrote this file. As long as you retain this notice you * can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you think * this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a beer in return. Poul-Henning Kamp * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * * $Id$ * */ #ifndef RD0_SIZE #define RD0_SIZE (80*2*18*512) #endif /* * Includes */ #include "rd.h" #include #include #include #include #include #include #include /* * Prototypes */ static d_open_t rdopen; static d_close_t rdclose; static d_strategy_t rdstrategy; static d_ioctl_t rdioctl; static d_dump_t rddump; static d_psize_t rdsize; /* * Data */ static struct rd_softc { unsigned long sc_size; u_char *sc_base; struct diskslices *sc_slices; } softc[NRD]; #ifdef RD0_SIZE static u_char rd0_data[RD0_SIZE] = "RD0 Image goes here"; #endif /* RD0_SIZE */ /* * Registation into the kernel data structures */ #define BDEV_MAJOR 24 #define CDEV_MAJOR 84 static struct cdevsw rd_cdevsw; static struct bdevsw rd_bdevsw = { rdopen, rdclose, rdstrategy, rdioctl, rddump, rdsize, D_DISK, "rd", &rd_cdevsw, -1 }; static void rd_drvinit(void *unused) { bdevsw_add_generic(BDEV_MAJOR, CDEV_MAJOR, &rd_bdevsw); #ifdef RD0_SIZE softc[0].sc_base = rd0_data; softc[0].sc_size = RD0_SIZE; #endif /* RD0_SIZE */ } SYSINIT(rddev,SI_SUB_DRIVERS,SI_ORDER_MIDDLE+CDEV_MAJOR,rd_drvinit,NULL) static int rdopen(dev_t dev, int flags, int mode, struct proc *p) { struct rd_softc *sc; struct disklabel label; int error; sc = softc + dkunit(dev); bzero(&label, sizeof label); label.d_secsize = DEV_BSIZE; label.d_nsectors = sc->sc_size / DEV_BSIZE; label.d_ntracks = 1; label.d_ncylinders = 1; label.d_secpercyl = label.d_nsectors; label.d_secperunit = label.d_nsectors; error = dsopen("rd", dev, mode, &sc->sc_slices, &label, rdstrategy, (ds_setgeom_t *)NULL, &rd_bdevsw, &rd_cdevsw); return (error); } static int rdclose(dev_t dev, int flags, int mode, struct proc *p) { struct rd_softc *sc; sc = softc + dkunit(dev); dsclose(dev, mode, sc->sc_slices); return (0); } static void rdstrategy(struct buf *bp) { struct rd_softc *sc; u_char *where; sc = softc + dkunit(bp->b_dev); bp->b_resid = bp->b_bcount; if (dscheck(bp, sc->sc_slices) <= 0) { biodone(bp); return; } where = sc->sc_base + dbtob(bp->b_pblkno); if (bp->b_flags & B_READ) { bcopy(where , bp->b_data, bp->b_bcount); } else { bcopy(bp->b_data, where, bp->b_bcount); } bp->b_resid -= bp->b_bcount; biodone(bp); } static int rdioctl(dev_t dev, int cmd, caddr_t data, int flag, struct proc *p) { struct rd_softc *sc; int error; sc = softc + dkunit(dev); error = dsioctl("rd", dev, cmd, data, flag, &sc->sc_slices, rdstrategy, (ds_setgeom_t *)NULL); if (error == -1) error = ENOTTY; return (error); } static int rddump(dev_t dev) { return (ENODEV); } static int rdsize(dev_t dev) { return (0); } -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 04:30:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15127 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15083 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:29:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03314; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:29:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA26111; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:28:47 +0200 (CEST) To: Doug Rabson cc: Karl Denninger , Robin Cutshaw , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS cache problem in 3.0 SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:09:28 BST." Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:28:47 +0200 Message-ID: <26109.876742127@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I'm wondering if we need a call from the nfs code to the namecache >> when the nfs code decides that a directory has been changed. Anybody >> know where we can detect that situation ? > >The nfs client calls nfs_invaldir when it detects a directory chance I >think. OK, try to apply this change then: in kern/vfs_cache.c: remove static from cache_zap() Add this function: void cache_dir_purge(vp) struct vnode *vp; { while (!LIST_EMPTY(&vp->v_cache_src)) cache_zap(LIST_FIRST(&vp->v_cache_src)); } in nfs/nfs_subs.c: And add this call to nfs_invaldir() somewhere: cache_dir_purge(vp); And tell me if this improves things... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 04:32:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15392 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15367 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id NAA19129; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:31:40 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710131131.NAA19129@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... In-Reply-To: <19971013112612.HL01030@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Oct 13, 97 11:26:12 am" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:31:40 +0200 (MEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to J Wunsch who wrote: > As Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > Try to use the same method cd(4) is using. > > > > Could you elaborate on that, that would save me reading to much source :) > > Sorry, i had to read the source as well now. > See :), as I understand it, there is no support in the SCSI cd driver for this, its supposed to be handeled by the "changer" device which reacts to ioctl commands (can you spell ugly).. I like phk's idea (and my inital thought), of the driver allocating so many minors as the device supports slots, and then let the driver shuffle the CD's as needed... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 04:35:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15751 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15728 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id NAA19136; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:33:41 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199710131133.NAA19136@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem In-Reply-To: <199710130938.CAA22215@usr08.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Oct 13, 97 09:38:47 am" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:33:41 +0200 (MEST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Terry Lambert who wrote: > > > The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. > > > > The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still > > generating Meta- > > > > This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) > > Hahahaha.... > > You should reassign the "Windows" key to this function... then people > who wan Emacs can buy Windows keyboards... Hmm, listen to that man, there are two nice keys with a window on then, think change window/console :) :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 06:22:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA22530 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ns.mexcom.net [206.103.64.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22524 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@mexcom.net) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29521; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:19:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <34422066.1B667AC0@mexcom.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:21:42 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: Michael Reifenberger , FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook References: <199710130632.QAA00519@word.smith.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in 2.2..2-RELEASE > > and not in -current. > > The documentation states the sound-system to be a OPTI 82C930 and > > SB-PRO compliant. > > Unfortunatly only the opl0 driver gets probed and attached. > > > > sb0 not found at 0x220 > > sbxvi0 not found at 0xffffffff > > sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 > > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > > opl0: > > > > Any ideas? > > Try building a -current kernel with 'device pnp0', and see if this > finds any of your sound hardware. > > mike When you use plug 'n play, should you leave your device specific, configuration parameters in the configuration file or remove them? Thanks Ed From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 06:26:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA22732 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (apl@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22727 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apl@hutcs.cs.hut.fi) Received: (from apl@localhost) by hutcs.cs.hut.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA04776; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:25:53 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <19971013162553.43739@hutcs.cs.hut.fi> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:25:53 +0300 From: Antti-Pekka Liedes To: luigi@iet.unipi.it, current@freebsd.org Subject: pcm fails to attach in -current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=QoSWH+UP9D9v3lNM X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --QoSWH+UP9D9v3lNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The pcm-driver in -current fails to attach to my Soundblaster 32. The last kernel where the pcm-driver works was build on Sep 18th, I haven't changed my kernel config since, but in all later kernels the pcm-driver hasn't worked. -- Antti-Pekka Liedes * apl@IRC * In two hells there's JMT 6 B 406 * apl@iki.fi * one hell too many 02150 ESPOO * +358 - 9 - 468 3121 * - Lucifer FINLAND * +358 - 40 - 5873 593 * (in God's Army) --QoSWH+UP9D9v3lNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=attach Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Sep 18 12:47:15 EEST 1997 apl@apocalypse.tky.hut.fi:/var/src/sys/compile/APOCALYPSE-SMP CPU: Pentium (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x544 Stepping=4 Features=0x8003bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 95522816 (93284K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 DEVFS: ready for devices Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 de0: rev 0x20 int a irq 19 on pci0.17.0 de0: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de0: address 00:00:c0:30:46:f9 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.18.0 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 16 on pci0.20.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci1.4.0 ahc0: aic7880 Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 522MB (1070496 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device sd1 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 3067MB (6281856 512 byte sectors) ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci1.5.0 ahc1: aic7880 Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 ahc1: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device sd2 at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access 3067MB (6281856 512 byte sectors) ahc1: target 4 Tagged Queuing Device sd3 at scbus1 target 4 lun 0 sd3: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3: Direct-Access 2006MB (4108600 512 byte sectors) Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0044 [0x44008c0e] Serial 0x10005b38 pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x10005b38) at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 id 13 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> pcm0 at 0xffff irq 5 drq 1 mem 0x0 flags 0x0 en 1 confl 0 mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff) sb_probe: no address supplied, try defaults (0x220,0x240) device at 0x220 already attached as unit 1 pcm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, iordy atapi0.0: unknown phase wdc1 not found at 0x170 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 DEVFS: ready to run APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 on pin 0 ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! de0: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port mountmsdosfs(): Warning: root directory is not a multiple of the clustersize in length --QoSWH+UP9D9v3lNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=no_attach Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Oct 12 21:37:28 EEST 1997 apl@apocalypse.tky.hut.fi:/var/src/sys/compile/APOCALYPSE-SMP CPU: Pentium (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x544 Stepping=4 Features=0x8003bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 95453184 (93216K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 DEVFS: ready for devices Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 de0: rev 0x20 int a irq 19 on pci0.17.0 de0: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de0: address 00:00:c0:30:46:f9 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.18.0 vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 16 on pci0.20.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci1.4.0 ahc0: aic7880 Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 522MB (1070496 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 2 Tagged Queuing Device sd1 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 3067MB (6281856 512 byte sectors) ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 19 on pci1.5.0 ahc1: aic7880 Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 ahc1: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device sd2 at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 sd2: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2: Direct-Access 3067MB (6281856 512 byte sectors) ahc1: target 4 Tagged Queuing Device sd3 at scbus1 target 4 lun 0 sd3: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3: Direct-Access 2006MB (4108600 512 byte sectors) Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL0044 [0x44008c0e] Serial 0x10005b38 pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x10005b38) failed to attach Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> pcm0 at 0xffff irq 5 drq 1 mem 0x0 flags 0x0 en 1 confl 0 mss_probe: no address supplied, try default 0x530 mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff) sb_probe: no address supplied, try defaults (0x220,0x240) device at 0x220 already attached as unit 1 pcm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, iordy atapi0.0: unknown phase wdc1 not found at 0x170 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 DEVFS: ready to run APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 on pin 0 ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! de0: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port mountmsdosfs(): Warning: root directory is not a multiple of the clustersize in length --QoSWH+UP9D9v3lNM-- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 07:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25337 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25329 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.99]) by eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.3W9) with ESMTP id XAA17585; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:07:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl5) with ESMTP id XAA01515; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:06:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710131406.XAA01515@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lockmgr panic From: KATO Takenori In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:41:58 +0200" References: <19971013084158.HG40991@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:06:05 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I thought we got rid of this kind of panics finally? Apparently not: Problem still exists in both 3.0-current and RELENG_2_2, that is, 2.2.5 will be panic by same reason. Stack trace shows: 1. Write a buffer to the ufs on the vn driver. 2. vnstrategy locks the vnode and calls ffs_write. 3. ffs_write call ffs_balloc to obtain a buffer. 4. buffer is not memory resident. 5. The last used buffer is prepared to reuse. 6. The last used buffer is a dirty buffer which is used for the ufs on the vn driver. 7. vnstrategy is called again to flush the dirty buffer. 8. Because vnode has been already locked, the system panics. I don't have any idea to solve this problem except: a. rewrite delayed write stuff. b. rewrite vn driver. c. apply the patch included in this mail. The patch from 3.0-current is as follows: ---------- BEGIN ---------- *** vn.c.ORIG Mon Oct 13 22:06:06 1997 --- vn.c Mon Oct 13 22:12:34 1997 *************** *** 228,233 **** --- 228,234 ---- register struct vn_softc *vn = vn_softc[unit]; register daddr_t bn; int error; + int isvplocked; long sz; struct uio auio; struct iovec aiov; *************** *** 276,287 **** auio.uio_rw = UIO_WRITE; auio.uio_resid = bp->b_bcount; auio.uio_procp = curproc; ! vn_lock(vn->sc_vp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY, curproc); if( bp->b_flags & B_READ) error = VOP_READ(vn->sc_vp, &auio, 0, vn->sc_cred); else error = VOP_WRITE(vn->sc_vp, &auio, 0, vn->sc_cred); ! VOP_UNLOCK(vn->sc_vp, 0, curproc); bp->b_resid = auio.uio_resid; if( error ) --- 277,294 ---- auio.uio_rw = UIO_WRITE; auio.uio_resid = bp->b_bcount; auio.uio_procp = curproc; ! if (!VOP_ISLOCKED(vn->sc_vp)) { ! isvplocked = 1; ! vn_lock(vn->sc_vp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY, curproc); ! } if( bp->b_flags & B_READ) error = VOP_READ(vn->sc_vp, &auio, 0, vn->sc_cred); else error = VOP_WRITE(vn->sc_vp, &auio, 0, vn->sc_cred); ! if (isvplocked) { ! VOP_UNLOCK(vn->sc_vp, 0, curproc); ! isvplocked = 0; ! } bp->b_resid = auio.uio_resid; if( error ) *************** *** 305,314 **** int off, s, nra; nra = 0; vn_lock(vn->sc_vp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY, curproc); error = VOP_BMAP(vn->sc_vp, (daddr_t)(byten / bsize), &vp, &nbn, &nra, NULL); ! VOP_UNLOCK(vn->sc_vp, 0, curproc); if (error == 0 && nbn == -1) error = EIO; --- 312,328 ---- int off, s, nra; nra = 0; + if (!VOP_ISLOCKED(vn->sc_vp)) { + isvplocked = 1; + vn_lock(vn->sc_vp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY, curproc); + } vn_lock(vn->sc_vp, LK_EXCLUSIVE | LK_RETRY, curproc); error = VOP_BMAP(vn->sc_vp, (daddr_t)(byten / bsize), &vp, &nbn, &nra, NULL); ! if (isvplocked) { ! VOP_UNLOCK(vn->sc_vp, 0, curproc); ! isvplocked = 0; ! } if (error == 0 && nbn == -1) error = EIO; ---------- END ---------- ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 08:18:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29767 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29748 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08855; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:16:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199710131516.LAA08855@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alt and Meta mapping (was: possible sc0 problem) In-Reply-To: <25390.876733912@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <19971013183646.08998@lemis.com> <25390.876733912@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > In message <19971013183646.08998@lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: >> think that there's an easy way to solve all problems. Inmy case, I'd >> rather have Alt as Meta, and use [Fn] [Alt] on the few occasions I >> want to switch VTs. > Great fine and all that, just remember that all the people who have > set up X apps (netscape!) for ALT-foo will loose with this change. No they won't. I have had a META key in X for six years, and all the applications behave the right way---even Netscrape. All they really care about is that the modifier bit is set. (Well, xterm does notice, and does the right thing---set the high bit!) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 08:52:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02087 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02079 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA04637; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:52:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22531; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:52:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:52:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Mike Smith cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: <199710130632.QAA00519@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:02:20 +0930 > From: Mike Smith > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: FreeBSD-Current > Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in 2.2..2-RELEASE > > and not in -current. > > The documentation states the sound-system to be a OPTI 82C930 and > > SB-PRO compliant. > > Unfortunatly only the opl0 driver gets probed and attached. > > > > sb0 not found at 0x220 > > sbxvi0 not found at 0xffffffff > > sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 > > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > > opl0: > > > > Any ideas? > > Try building a -current kernel with 'device pnp0', and see if this > finds any of your sound hardware. > I tried, it doesn't I didn't try Luigis latest stuff though. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 09:16:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA03547 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from consys.com (consys.com [209.60.202.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03542 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rcarter@consys.com) Received: from dnstoo.consys.com (dnstoo.ConSys.COM [209.60.202.195]) by consys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA24464; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:15:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from dnstoo.consys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dnstoo.consys.com (8.8.5/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA03647; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:15:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199710131615.JAA03647@dnstoo.consys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Bruce Evans cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xlock: caught signal 8 while running galaxy mode. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Oct 1997 02:15:54 +1000." <199710041615.CAA31787@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:15:55 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk bde@zeta.org.au said: }>to control the internal precision of arithmetic operations, }>silly me. A lot of the debate on "Pure" java fp focuses on }>the (unmodifiable) 80 bit internal representation of x87 operands }>stored on the fp stack, but this flag apparently renders that }>problem moot. Oddly, Sun has been }>insisting that the only way to make x87 fp "Pure" is to store }>the result of EVERY fp operation to main memory and read it }>back in again. That way of course every arithmetic operation }>gets performed with 53b precision operands. }>Surely they know about this flag... no no I won't be cynical ;-) } }Neither way is completely pure - there are some problems with }double rounding that could not possibly be fixed by running with }64-bit precision and reducing to 53-bit precision by storing. }I believe they aren't fixed by running with 53-bit precision }either, at least for division - the FPU apparently first rounds }to 64 bits. For transcendental functions, storing is the only }way. Point taken, but... } }>However, your comment in npx.h opines that "64-bit precision often }>gives bad results", and that is not true at all. More accurately, }>(oops, I punned:) if computing intermediate values to higher }>precision causes *different* final results, then in all but the }>mostly highly contrived cases the problem lies with the code, }>or in your terminology it's a bug :). (in that case the }>algorithm is unstable wrt precision). Not to say counterexamples }>don't exist but they are uncommon enough to be addressed in }>Kahan's SIAM talk this year. } }Counterexamples are well known. Many can be found in Kahan's old }"paranioa" program. Bugfeatures in gcc provide many more counterexamples. }Double-precision arithmetic operations operations done at }compile time are always done in 53-bit precision, but the same }computations done at runtime are done partly in 53-bit precision }and partly in the h/w precision, where the parts depend on the }optimization level. The only sure way to get consistent results is }to store the result of EVERY fp operation to main memory ... Paranoia handles the 64 bit case wrong, and reports a "flaw". Paranoia is not the law, and its author chooses the "flaw" over the alternative. I don't know what these bugfeatures in gcc are, perhaps they are showstoppers? Although linux apparently does not seem to mind them. My original statement said there are "counterexamples" to the general rule that more accuracy is better for application codes. After a lot of thought and rereading of papers in my archive I can think of only two, very tiny, classes of codes that 53 bit precision benefits more than 64bit precision (given identical compuation costs). Those are test programs with bugs, like paranoia, and iterative algorithms that require a bit of noise to be coaxed to converge. Are there more? At any rate, "counterexamples" was much too charitable. On the other hand, there are some really fundamental algorithms like iterative refinement that greatly improve with extended precision. Kahan is definitely willing to live with the possible double rounding bugaboo in exchange for extended precision. } }>So there is an inconsistency here: on the one hand your preferences }>yield compatibility for buggy programs when the bug is instability }>of the program algorithm when subjected to (increased) intermediate }>precision; OTOH if the "bug" is manifested by something that }>generates an exception, FreeBSD by default calls it out. } }My precision preference yields compatibility for non-buggy programs }compiled by buggy compilers (provided the programs only use double }precision - float precision has the same bugs). Compatible with what? Most cpus are x86 and 68xxx with extended precision enabled by default. Most flops are (were?) done on Crays, which are not compatible model to model and aside from the T3D are not even close to IEEE754. A big chunk of flops now is done on RS6000, which has extended precision via fused multiply/add. And apparently, 53bit x86 isn't compatible either... Russell From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 09:22:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA03933 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03920 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09468; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971013092233.17929@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:22:33 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Edwin Culp Cc: Mike Smith , Michael Reifenberger , FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook References: <199710130632.QAA00519@word.smith.net.au> <34422066.1B667AC0@mexcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <34422066.1B667AC0@mexcom.net>; from Edwin Culp on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 08:21:42AM -0500 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Edwin Culp scribbled this message on Oct 13: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in 2.2..2-RELEASE > > > and not in -current. > > > The documentation states the sound-system to be a OPTI 82C930 and > > > SB-PRO compliant. > > > Unfortunatly only the opl0 driver gets probed and attached. > > > > > > sb0 not found at 0x220 > > > sbxvi0 not found at 0xffffffff > > > sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 > > > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > > > opl0: > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Try building a -current kernel with 'device pnp0', and see if this > > finds any of your sound hardware. > > > > mike > > When you use plug 'n play, should you leave your device specific, > configuration parameters in the configuration file or remove them? you should only remove them when the driver your using is PnP aware.. currently this only includes the sio and luigi's pcm drivers... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 09:56:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06223 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06209 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00249; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710131654.JAA00249@rah.star-gate.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:28:29 +0200." <15302.876688109@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-15318307220" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:54:51 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-15318307220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just sup -current last nite, did a make world and rebuild the kernel and I am happily typing on the system 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Poul-Henning Kamp : > In message , Simon Shapiro writes: > > > >Hi Poul-Henning Kamp; On 12-Oct-97 you wrote: > >> In message , Simon Shapiro > >> writes: > >> >Hya Y'all, > >> > > >> >Am getting this with current kernel of today. Did not get it with > >> >current > >> >kernel of 971007. Happens just after fsck -p (in /etc/rc, while > >> >mounting > >> >the filesystems (quite few). > >> > > >> >Anyone seen this, ownes this, cares to comment? > >> > >> Yes, this must be fallout from my malloc changes. Care to share the > >> details ? > > > >Nope. Classified top secret :-) > > > >System builds and boots normally. starts the mount -a (I think), and then > >I get the panic. It does not drop into the debugger :-( > >I really do not know what else to say. Do you want the config files? > >Should I embed some debugging messages somewhere? Do you want to login to > >the system? > > As a minimum the config file, /etc/fstab and a dmesg output. If you > could boot it on a serial console and grab what comes by it would be > fine. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." --==_Exmh_-15318307220 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="foo"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: foo Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="foo" Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Oct 13 09:43:20 PDT 1997 root@rah.star-gate.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/STAR-GATE CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xf9ff real memory = 50331648 (49152K bytes) avail memory = 46833664 (45736K bytes) DEVFS: ready for devices Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.1 ahc0: rev 0x03 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 uk0 at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 uk0: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk0: Unknown uk1 at scbus0 target 5 lun 1 uk1: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk1: Unknown uk2 at scbus0 target 5 lun 2 uk2: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk2: Unknown uk3 at scbus0 target 5 lun 3 uk3: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk3: Unknown uk4 at scbus0 target 5 lun 4 uk4: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk4: Unknown uk5 at scbus0 target 5 lun 5 uk5: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk5: Unknown uk6 at scbus0 target 5 lun 6 uk6: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk6: Unknown uk7 at scbus0 target 5 lun 7 uk7: type 6 fixed SCSI 2 uk7: Unknown bktr0: rev 0x11 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 sd0 at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 2150MB (4404489 512 byte sectors) ahc1:A:2: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers cd0 at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.13.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:af:70:b7, type SMC8216/SMC8216C (16 bit) ed1 not found at 0x240 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found lpt2 not found fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1549MB (3173184 sectors), 3148 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-32 wd1: 3337MB (6834240 sectors), 6780 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S scd0 not found at 0x230 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick Checking for GUS Plug-n-Play ... Board Vendor ID: GRV0001 Board Serial Number: ffffffff gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x107 on isa at 0x32c dma 7,5 at 0x220 irq 11 dma 5,7 DEVFS: ready to run --==_Exmh_-15318307220-- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 10:01:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA06682 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from grayling.erg.sri.com (grayling.erg.sri.com [128.18.4.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06615; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from templin@erg.sri.com) Received: from grayling.erg.sri.com by grayling.erg.sri.com (8.6.12/2.7davy) id KAA03103; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:01:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199710131701.KAA03103@grayling.erg.sri.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) cc: templin@erg.sri.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccard driver questions (FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE + PAO-970616) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 08:46:44 +0900." <199710102346.IAA07501@afs.ntc.mita.keio.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:01:12 -0700 From: "Fred L. Templin" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Original: > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > static struct slot_ctrl cinfo; > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Newer code: > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > static struct slot_ctrl controller_info[NPCIC]; > static struct slot_ctrl *cinfo = controller_info; > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > One of my laptop machine has one PCI-1130 CardBus bridge that manages > two CardBus slots and i82365-compatible PC card controller that > manages one PC-card slot, and I can use all three slots under this > test code. Great. I was hoping it was just a matter of allocating multiple data structures. Does this mean that my config file will now look like: controller crd0 device pcic0 at crd0 device pcic1 at crd0 controller crd1 device pcic2 at crd1 device pcic3 at crd1 . . . (No need to respond if the answer is clearly obvious in the latest PAO test code...) > -- > HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi > Network Technology Center > Keio University > hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp Thanks, Fred templin@erg.sri.com From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 10:24:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA08550 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08536; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA04820; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:24:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA22650; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:24:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:24:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Nate Williams cc: FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: <199710130010.SAA29224@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:10:35 -0600 (MDT) > From: Nate Williams > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: FreeBSD-Current > Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook > > > my notebook has a in it > > as it is probed by the 2.2.2-PAO software. 2.2.2-RELEASE+PAO is > > working just fine. > > Is this one of the 'PCI' chipsets? > > > -Current has no support for it. Booting verbose shows: > > t 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: chip1: rev 0xfe int a irq 255 on pci0.16.0 > > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: found-> vendor=0x102c, dev=0x00dc, revid=0x00 > > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > > Oct 11 16:32:13 nihil /kernel: map[0]: type 1, range 32, base c0000000, size 23 > > Yep, it is. :( > > > Any chance to get the PAO stuff merged which has support for some additional > > PCMCIA-cards. > > Certainly not in 2.2, but you could talk with PHK who started some PCI > probe code in pcic, and he may be able to easily extend it to support > your controler. > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. > > I have no idea. Is this box Plug-n-Pray? Doesn't seem so. No signatures where found for PNP'Cards. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 10:30:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA08946 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA08939; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15959; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02287; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710131729.LAA02287@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: References: <199710130010.SAA29224@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > > > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. > > > > I have no idea. Is this box Plug-n-Pray? > > Doesn't seem so. No signatures where found for PNP'Cards. Hmm, did you try the OSS support, to see if it finds it? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 11:50:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA14731 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA14722; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA05077; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:50:29 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22849; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:50:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:50:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Nate Williams cc: FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: <199710131729.LAA02287@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:29:52 -0600 (MDT) > From: Nate Williams > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: Nate Williams , > FreeBSD-Current , > Poul-Henning Kamp > Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook > > > > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > > > > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. > > > > > > I have no idea. Is this box Plug-n-Pray? > > > > Doesn't seem so. No signatures where found for PNP'Cards. > > Hmm, did you try the OSS support, to see if it finds it? > Sorry, which OSS support? Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 11:54:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15079 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15071; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA16544; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02729; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710131854.MAA02729@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: Nate Williams , FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: References: <199710131729.LAA02287@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > > > > > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. > > > > Hmm, did you try the OSS support, to see if it finds it? > > > Sorry, which OSS support? Open Sound System. 'www.oss.com' or somesuch. Check the archives. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 11:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15278 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:57:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15266; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA05086; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:57:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22892; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:57:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:57:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Nate Williams cc: FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: <199710131854.MAA02729@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:54:42 -0600 (MDT) > From: Nate Williams > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: Nate Williams , > FreeBSD-Current , > Poul-Henning Kamp > Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook > > > > > > > Furthermore the sound-devices are not recognized entirely. Not in > > > > > > 2.2..2-RELEASE and not in -current. > > > > > > Hmm, did you try the OSS support, to see if it finds it? > > > > > Sorry, which OSS support? > > Open Sound System. 'www.oss.com' or somesuch. Check the archives. > Not yet. Will try Luigi's code first. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 13:07:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA19499 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA19490 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 812 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Oct 1997 20:06:56 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199710131654.JAA00249@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio Hasty; On 13-Oct-97 you wrote: > Just sup -current last nite, did a make world and rebuild the kernel > and I am happily typing on the system 8) It does not happen every time, nor all the time. I can have two weeks without it, or every hour. depends. Dunno why... From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 15:52:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA00609 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00596 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:52:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA03267 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:52:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA01453; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:49:05 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013224905.XP26919@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:49:05 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multiple cd drives, how to... References: <19971013112612.HL01030@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199710131131.NAA19129@sos.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199710131131=2ENAA19129=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Oct_13=2C_1997_13=3A31=3A40_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Søren Schmidt wrote: (I misunderstood your question before.) > See :), as I understand it, there is no support in the SCSI cd driver > for this, its supposed to be handeled by the "changer" device which > reacts to ioctl commands (can you spell ugly).. I wish it would. The SCSI-2 medium changer interface would have been the cleanest (and _not_ the ugliest) way to handle this. Alas, SCSI vendors went the route to make CD-ROM changer devices look like multiple CD-ROM drives on multiple LUNs. The actual changing is done automatically. This seems to be a bright idea -- until you start using such a beast in a multiuser/multitasking environment. There's no way to lock a medium in the drive (PREVENT ALLOW MEDIUM REMOVAL will only lock the medium inside the entire device), so if you start concurrent accesses to the virtual CD-ROM drives, it simply goes thrashing. It takes 20 seconds to swap a medium, then it reads a block or two, then it swaps for the next medium, then it reads a block or two,... you get the picture. You can't blame the driver for this: it has been told there were multiple drives. Using the changer approach (which is standardized by SCSI-2) would have been _so_ much better, since you get control about when to change the medium. > I like phk's idea (and my inital thought), of the driver allocating > so many minors as the device supports slots, and then let the > driver shuffle the CD's as needed... The cd driver simply allocates new devices for them, they show up as cd0 through cd6 (for a 7-disk changer). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 15:53:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA00677 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00657 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA03311 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:52:46 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA01478; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:04:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013230458.DB54165@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:04:58 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lockmgr panic References: <19971013084158.HG40991@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199710131406.XAA01515@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199710131406.XAA01515@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp>; from KATO Takenori on Oct 13, 1997 23:06:05 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As KATO Takenori wrote: > I don't have any idea to solve this problem except: > > a. rewrite delayed write stuff. > b. rewrite vn driver. > c. apply the patch included in this mail. > > The patch from 3.0-current is as follows: Well, this patch saved my but regarding the `make release'. Hack or not, short of having any better fix, i'd like to see it even in 2.2.5. The lockmgr panic was completely reproducible for me upon a new run of `make release'. We should not ship a FreeBSD 2.2.5 that cannot build its own release... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 15:53:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA00713 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00673 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA03333 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:52:59 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA02016; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:08:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971013230818.ZB55478@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:08:18 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: lockmgr panic References: <19971013084158.HG40991@uriah.heep.sax.de> <26001.876741642@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <26001.876741642@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Oct 13, 1997 13:20:42 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I hacked this little "genuine ram disk driver" up a couple of days ago, > if should do everything you would want to have done if this is for release > building: Well, i think this requires quite a number of changes in the release Makefile... so i'm a little reluctant to bring it in before 2.2.5 ships. But i get the point. > #ifndef RD0_SIZE > #define RD0_SIZE (80*2*18*512) > #endif That's ugly. My suggestion: provide two minor numbers per pseudo-device. The first is the actual rd driver, the second is the control device. For the control device, define an ioctl command that gets down the desired size, and allocates a (optionally pageable) buffer for it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:13:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA04902 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:13:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (vector.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04892 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@freebsd.org) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by wall.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.6.9) id BAA02683; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:17:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 01:17:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199710140017.BAA02683@wall.jhs.no_domain> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ctm cvs-cur.3670.gz From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: Home: X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ (Includes PGP Key) X-Tel: Home: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: Home: +49.89.2608126 X-Data: Home: +49.89.26023276 X-Company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants. X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.9 on FreeBSD (Unix) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone else (ctm users) see this ? Working on <................/cvs-cur.3670.gz> DM: src/kerberosIV exists. I don't think I can have a corrupted tree, as I've just rebuilt it (all the way up from cvs-cur.1500A.gz) Could someone maybe run md5 or cksum deltas/cvs-cur.3* | mail jhs@freebsd.org on their personal stock of deltas please ? (I wanted to do that myself on freefall/hub, but since the deltas moved to ftp.freebsd.org mortals can't login there. Thanks Julian -- Julian H. Stacey Home http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Tel. +49 89 268616 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:30:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA05697 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05686 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA26049; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:29:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199710102157.OAA15708@usr08.primenet.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:29:37 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: conrads@neosoft.com Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: FreeBSD developer kudos: At last! A successful make world! Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 10-Oct-97 Terry Lambert wrote: >> Conrad, who thinks he's going to cancel his existing FreeBSD (RELEASE) >> subscription and start subscribing to the SNAPs instead :-) > > Don't, or Jordan will back out the changes. 8-) 8-). Heh. :-) Anyway, you're too late. I've already done it and received confirmation by e-mail from cdrom.com. :-) Take care, Conrad -- Conrad Sabatier | FreeBSD -- UNIX for your PC http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads | Why settle for less than the best? Spambots, use this: biteme@f-u.org | http://www.freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:42:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA06781 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06776 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA01487; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:11:57 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971014101156.37387@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:11:56 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <199710130543.PAA00380@word.smith.net.au> <199710130938.CAA22215@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710130938.CAA22215@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 09:38:47AM +0000 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 09:38:47AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. >> >> The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still >> generating Meta- >> >> This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) > > Hahahaha.... > > You should reassign the "Windows" key to this function... then people > who wan Emacs can buy Windows keyboards... What about people who use Emacs but who think that the Windows keyboards are loads of crap designed by non-typists? Greg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:45:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07035 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07022 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA01509; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:15:16 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971014101516.00545@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:15:16 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <19971013164448.18208@lemis.com> <199710131017.TAA01333@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710131017.TAA01333@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 07:47:42PM +0930 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 07:47:42PM +0930, Mike Smith wrote: >>> The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still >>> generating Meta- >>> >>> This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) >> >> No fair. You came up with this idea, now prove it. >> >> I have a function M-F1 which inserts a \f(BI.\fP\| around the point. >> I have a function C-M-F1 which inserts a \f(CI.\fP\| around the point. >> How do I change for /dev/ttyv0 using the Meta key? > > You do what everyone that learnt Emacs on a bad terminal does; read M- > as Esc- 8) That's such an appalling kludge that, Emacs bigot though I be, I use vi on such keyboards. > Seriously, my point was just that the "right thing" was not > particularly clear. Once it has been defined, implementing it will > obviously be trivial. I think, in fact, that Garrett brought up the correct information. I had completely forgotten that I map Alt-L to Meta under X. And Ctrl-Meta-F2 and friends still work. I just wish they wouldn't :-) Greg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:46:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07119 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07108 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA01518; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:16:03 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971014101603.39794@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:16:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: Terry Lambert , mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem References: <199710130938.CAA22215@usr08.primenet.com> <199710131133.NAA19136@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199710131133=2ENAA19136=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Mon=2C_Oct_13=2C_1997_at_01=3A33=3A4?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?1PM_+0200?= Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 01:33:41PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Terry Lambert who wrote: >>>> The fun will not last long, so I suggest to backout this change. >>> >>> The correct fix is to have ALT-Fn do the "right thing", while still >>> generating Meta- >>> >>> This is left as an exercise to the original committer. 8) >> >> Hahahaha.... >> >> You should reassign the "Windows" key to this function... then people >> who wan Emacs can buy Windows keyboards... > > Hmm, listen to that man, there are two nice keys with a window on then, > think change window/console :) :) I don't see anything with a window on it. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 17:49:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07340 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.5.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07335 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11628; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:49:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from UNKNOWN(206.165.6.207), claiming to be "usr07.primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd011617; Tue Oct 14 00:49:37 1997 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16881; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:49:36 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710140049.RAA16881@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: possible sc0 problem To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:49:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, mike@smith.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971014101156.37387@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Oct 14, 97 10:11:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You should reassign the "Windows" key to this function... then people > > who wan Emacs can buy Windows keyboards... > > What about people who use Emacs but who think that the Windows > keyboards are loads of crap designed by non-typists? These would be the same people who believe a char used to have 9 bits, but now has 12 bits? I can't really respect their opinions on keymaps OR keyboards. 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 18:02:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA07934 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA07919; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29896; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:02:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710140017.BAA02683@wall.jhs.no_domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:59:51 -0500 To: "Julian H. Stacey" From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: ctm cvs-cur.3670.gz Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Anyone else (ctm users) see this ? > Working on <................/cvs-cur.3670.gz> > DM: src/kerberosIV exists. >I don't think I can have a corrupted tree, as I've just rebuilt it >(all the way up from cvs-cur.1500A.gz) > >Could someone maybe run md5 or cksum deltas/cvs-cur.3* | mail jhs@freebsd.org >on their personal stock of deltas please ? >From the "horse's mouth" (ctm@freebsd.org) It's on its way. shrimp: {1} cd /pub/FreeBSD/CTM/cvs-cur/ shrimp: {2} md5 cvs-cur.3* | mail jhs@freebsd.org shrimp: {3} Richard Wackerbarth From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 19:04:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA12350 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ppp1643.on.sympatico.ca (ppp1643.on.sympatico.ca [206.172.249.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA12185; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@ppp1643.on.sympatico.ca) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by ppp1643.on.sympatico.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00370; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:02:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim@ppp1643.on.sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:02:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek Reply-To: ac199@hwcn.org To: Nate Williams cc: Michael Reifenberger , FreeBSD-Current , Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: PCMCIA and sound not found with -current and notebook In-Reply-To: <199710131854.MAA02729@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Open Sound System. 'www.oss.com' or somesuch. Check the archives. http://www.4front-tech.com -- tIM...HOEk OPTIMIZATION: the process of using many one-letter variables names hoping that the resultant code will run faster. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 19:42:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA14264 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:42:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA14257 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02285; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710140241.TAA02285@rah.star-gate.com> To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:06:56 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:41:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, on my case , about 3 weeks ago had a -current that couldn't do make world ... Tried different versions of -current -1 week, -2 weeks, -3 week . I cycle the power on my box and presto the system was in a good state from then it has not failed once . My case is a little different because sometimes I pop the box into win95 and I suspect that in one of those win 95 left my box in a bad state. At any rate, whenever I run win95 I tend to just cycle the power before booting to FreeBSD just got too much interesting hardware in system 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Simon Shapiro : > > Hi Amancio Hasty; On 13-Oct-97 you wrote: > > Just sup -current last nite, did a make world and rebuild the kernel > > and I am happily typing on the system 8) > > It does not happen every time, nor all the time. I can have two weeks > without it, or every hour. depends. Dunno why... > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 19:49:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA14677 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA14666 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02285; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710140241.TAA02285@rah.star-gate.com> To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: panic: free: multiple free In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:06:56 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:41:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, on my case , about 3 weeks ago had a -current that couldn't do make world ... Tried different versions of -current -1 week, -2 weeks, -3 week . I cycle the power on my box and presto the system was in a good state from then it has not failed once . My case is a little different because sometimes I pop the box into win95 and I suspect that in one of those win 95 left my box in a bad state. At any rate, whenever I run win95 I tend to just cycle the power before booting to FreeBSD just got too much interesting hardware in system 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Simon Shapiro : > > Hi Amancio Hasty; On 13-Oct-97 you wrote: > > Just sup -current last nite, did a make world and rebuild the kernel > > and I am happily typing on the system 8) > > It does not happen every time, nor all the time. I can have two weeks > without it, or every hour. depends. Dunno why... > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 22:47:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24353 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24341; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (QoR2B0ZFAKhGnSMl4LWV2umKWgsIrBT7@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27813; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:48:00 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (GM5/czBU8O8yyOtl4++CSARuauyKYRgS@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18696; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:47:50 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710140547.HAA18696@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ctm cvs-cur.3670.gz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:47:49 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Anyone else (ctm users) see this ? > Working on <................/cvs-cur.3670.gz> > DM: src/kerberosIV exists. > I don't think I can have a corrupted tree, as I've just rebuilt it > (all the way up from cvs-cur.1500A.gz) > > Could someone maybe run md5 or cksum deltas/cvs-cur.3* | mail jhs@freebsd.org > on their personal stock of deltas please ? > (I wanted to do that myself on freefall/hub, but since the deltas moved to > ftp.freebsd.org mortals can't login there. Not necessary. You are one of the folk who (years ago) had the _old_ kerberosIV stuff. Just blow away ncvs/src/kerberosIV and all will be well. There has been CVS surgery. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 13 23:41:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA26979 for current-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA26969 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01633; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:39:55 +0200 (CEST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: lockmgr panic In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:08:18 +0200." <19971013230818.ZB55478@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:39:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1631.876811195@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971013230818.ZB55478@uriah.heep.sax.de>, J Wunsch writes: >As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> I hacked this little "genuine ram disk driver" up a couple of days ago, >> if should do everything you would want to have done if this is for release >> building: > >Well, i think this requires quite a number of changes in the release >Makefile... so i'm a little reluctant to bring it in before 2.2.5 >ships. But i get the point. > >> #ifndef RD0_SIZE >> #define RD0_SIZE (80*2*18*512) >> #endif > >That's ugly. My suggestion: provide two minor numbers per >pseudo-device. The first is the actual rd driver, the second is the >control device. For the control device, define an ioctl command that >gets down the desired size, and allocates a (optionally pageable) >buffer for it. Joerg, I spent all of 30 minutes on this ting, and I just hacked it together for a particular experiment, OK ? :-) I offered it here as a bandaid if release building was in trouble, not as a solution for world poverty... :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 14 08:11:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA22556 for current-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA22550 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22052; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:11:16 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA15830; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:11:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:11:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199710141511.RAA15830@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: John Fieber CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: John Fieber's message of Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:49:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: doc-all collection? References: <199710122035.VAA03569@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Unlike man pages which are intimately tied to specific pieces of > code in FreeBSD, the FAQ and Handbook cut across versions and > having 3 separate versions on 3 separate CVS branches was nothing > more than a large headache. They also required bringing in extra > bloat (sgml tools) to the source tree and binary core binary > distributions. I considered the removal of the SGML tools a pity - I'd have liked to be able to write man-pages in a more powerful form of markup later, e.g. DocBook. That way, integration between man-pages and the handbook would probably be easier. We can probably cross that bridge when we come to it, though. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 14 08:19:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23025 for current-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23020 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@veda.is) Received: from veda.is (veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/) with ESMTP id PAA26416 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:18:44 GMT Received: (from adam@localhost) by veda.is (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA15582 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:17:26 GMT From: Adam David Message-Id: <199710141517.PAA15582@veda.is> Subject: recent pppd changes To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:17:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The recent pppd changes require bpfilter in the kernel, this is probably not the intention? -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 14 10:59:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA06047 for current-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06036 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23383; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Eivind Eklund cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc-all collection? In-Reply-To: <199710141511.RAA15830@bitbox.follo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Eivind Eklund wrote: > I considered the removal of the SGML tools a pity - I'd have liked to > be able to write man-pages in a more powerful form of markup later, > e.g. DocBook. That way, integration between man-pages and the I agree, but developing good support for that would demand a lot more time than I have to devote to FreeBSD, and there hasn't been much interest expressed in developing the tools further. However, the effort going into "mdoc-ifying" existing man pages is valuable in facilitating automatic conversion an SGML/XML format at some point in the future, should that be a desirable thing to do. -john From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 14 12:01:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10400 for current-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from terra.stack.nl (terra.stack.nl [131.155.140.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10389 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xaa@xaa.stack.nl) Received: from xaa.stack.nl (uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.nl (8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA02911 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:01:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from xaa@localhost) by xaa.stack.nl (8.8.7/8.8.2) id TAA01693; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:50:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971014195017.56702@xaa.stack.nl> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:50:17 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ppp changes - problem with connections to FreeBSD machine :-( Reply-To: Mark Huizer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't had much time to track the exact changes to ppp in userland and in the kernel lately, but all I know, is that something is messy on my machine since I did a made world after a month. The problem is that all connections work quite allright, except ftp'ing (always stops after appr. 10K or 20K), and telnet connections to FreeBSD machines (both 2.2-stable and a snapshot from 2 weeks ago). The connection will just stall for about 40 seconds or a minute, and then give some response, then stalll whatever. This happens when I connect to our dialinserver on the university, and also when I dialin and rlogin to another machine (FreeBSD) to use a ppp-tunnel. Can this relate to some IP fragmentation problem or some MTU problem? Greetings, Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so (D. Gently) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 14 18:53:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA04560 for current-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA04537 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07466; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:05:42 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710150105.CAA07466@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mark Huizer cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp changes - problem with connections to FreeBSD machine :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:50:17 +0200." <19971014195017.56702@xaa.stack.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 02:05:42 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I haven't had much time to track the exact changes to ppp in userland > and in the kernel lately, but all I know, is that something is messy on > my machine since I did a made world after a month. > > The problem is that all connections work quite allright, except ftp'ing > (always stops after appr. 10K or 20K), and telnet connections to FreeBSD > machines (both 2.2-stable and a snapshot from 2 weeks ago). The > connection will just stall for about 40 seconds or a minute, and then > give some response, then stalll whatever. > > This happens when I connect to our dialinserver on the university, and > also when I dialin and rlogin to another machine (FreeBSD) to use a > ppp-tunnel. > > Can this relate to some IP fragmentation problem or some MTU problem? If you supped between Oct 6 and Oct 12, you'll need to sup again. I spammed ppp on the 6th - sorry. > Greetings, > > Mark > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so (D. Gently) - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 10:43:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05967 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05871 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA09505; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:25:01 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710151625.RAA09505@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: pcm fails to attach in -current To: apl@mail.cs.hut.fi (Antti-Pekka Liedes) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:25:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: luigi@iet.unipi.it, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971013162553.43739@hutcs.cs.hut.fi> from "Antti-Pekka Liedes" at Oct 13, 97 04:25:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The pcm-driver in -current fails to attach to my Soundblaster 32. The last > kernel where the pcm-driver works was build on Sep 18th, I haven't changed > my kernel config since, but in all later kernels the pcm-driver hasn't > worked. since I am not running 3.0 I think the person to ask is john mark gourney (jmg@freebsd.org). Or you can put some instrumenting code in the attach routine and see what goes wrong. Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 12:47:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19316 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (vector.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA19280; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@flip.jhs.no_domain) Received: from flip.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flip.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01161; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:44:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199710142244.AAA01161@flip.jhs.no_domain> To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ctm cvs-cur.3670.gz From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: Home: Customer: X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ (including PGP key) X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: Home: +49.89.268616 Work: +49.89.607.29788 X-Fax: Home: +49.89.2608126 Work: +49.89.607.32158 X-Data: Home: +49.89.26023276 X-Company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.9 on FreeBSD (Unix) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:47:49 +0200." <199710140547.HAA18696@greenpeace.grondar.za> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:44:15 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Murray wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Anyone else (ctm users) see this ? > > Working on <................/cvs-cur.3670.gz> > > DM: src/kerberosIV exists. > > I don't think I can have a corrupted tree, as I've just rebuilt it > > (all the way up from cvs-cur.1500A.gz) > > > > Could someone maybe run md5 or cksum deltas/cvs-cur.3* | mail jhs@freebsd.o > rg > > on their personal stock of deltas please ? > > (I wanted to do that myself on freefall/hub, but since the deltas moved to > > ftp.freebsd.org mortals can't login there. > > Not necessary. You are one of the folk who (years ago) had the _old_ > kerberosIV stuff. Just blow away ncvs/src/kerberosIV and all will be > well. There has been CVS surgery. Thanks Mark, I deleted my tree, & am rebuilding again, when it gets to the point where it blows again, I'll try this, Thanks ! > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org PS I'll look at that anti spam site too, I've been junk mailed too much, the last few months. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 13:20:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA24224 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24197 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA05596 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:20:40 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA13656; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971015220729.AJ14379@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:29 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: lockmgr panic References: <19971013230818.ZB55478@uriah.heep.sax.de> <1631.876811195@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <1631.876811195@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Oct 14, 1997 08:39:55 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Joerg, I spent all of 30 minutes on this ting, and I just hacked it > together for a particular experiment, OK ? :-) Ja. Understood... but well, i don't mind seeing it becoming a real driver once it's a little more flexible. > I offered it here as a bandaid if release building was in trouble, > not as a solution for world poverty... :-) Speaking of bandaids, would anybody mind me committing Mr. KATO's fix/hack? (Of course, unless he's going to commit it himself.) The patch seems to solve the vn(4) lockmgr problem. I haven't made a release on a 2.2.5-BETA system lately. If the problem there is the same, i would vote for moving the fix there as well. It's only affecting to vn.c, so i figure it can't do much harm outside the vn driver (which is apparently broken enough anyway). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 13:29:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA25946 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from moran.grauel.com (moran.grauel.com [199.233.104.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25931 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjk@moran.grauel.com) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by moran.grauel.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02434; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710152030.PAA02434@moran.grauel.com> From: Richard J Kuhns To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem compiling kernel without bpf Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As of this morning's ctm update, I can't compile a kernel with ppp but without bpf. There's a #define PPP_FILTER in if_ppp.c that causes it to include code relating to bpfilter, which I don't normally include in my config file. This is the first time I've tried to build a -current kernel for at least a week (the last one (10/7 vintage) has been very reliable, and I had some Real Work to do). If this was mentioned in some of the commits earlier, my apologies for missing it; sometimes I'm a little too quick with the `d' key. -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 17:01:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA19801 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19783 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.99]) by eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.3W9) with ESMTP id JAA24142 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:03:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl5) with ESMTP id JAA06763 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:01:12 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710160001.JAA06763@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lockmgr panic From: KATO Takenori In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:29 +0200" References: <19971015220729.AJ14379@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:01:12 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Speaking of bandaids, would anybody mind me committing Mr. KATO's > fix/hack? (Of course, unless he's going to commit it himself.) The > patch seems to solve the vn(4) lockmgr problem. If there isn't objection nor better solution, I will commit it. ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 22:04:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA04574 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [207.67.172.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA04562; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@cpl.net) Received: from shawn.cpl.net (shawn.cpl.net [207.67.172.196]) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA03646; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:03:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Shawn Ramsey" To: Cc: Subject: FreeBSD-current Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:04:12 -0700 Message-ID: <01bcd9f0$f1308ac0$c4ac43cf@shawn.cpl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BCD9B6.44D1B2C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BCD9B6.44D1B2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to update to FreeBSD-current, or even stable. Will I have a = problem if the disk I want to do the actual build on is mounted as = /disk2? /disk2 is a new 1.2gb drive, the primary drive is a 545MB = mounted as / , but only has about 200MB free. Will this work?=20 Thanks. please CC me as I am not(yet) subscrived to -current. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BCD9B6.44D1B2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to update to = FreeBSD-current, or=20 even stable. Will I have a problem if the disk I want to do the actual = build on=20 is mounted as /disk2? /disk2 is a new 1.2gb drive, the primary drive is = a 545MB=20 mounted as / , but only has about 200MB free. Will this work? =
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BCD9B6.44D1B2C0-- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 22:10:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA05034 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA05027 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:10:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id PAA08005; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:09:25 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:09:25 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, j@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: lockmgr panic Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Speaking of bandaids, would anybody mind me committing Mr. KATO's >fix/hack? (Of course, unless he's going to commit it himself.) The >patch seems to solve the vn(4) lockmgr problem. I think it substitutes panics with deadlock possibilities. Perhaps the deadlocks are rare. >I haven't made a release on a 2.2.5-BETA system lately. If the >problem there is the same, i would vote for moving the fix there as I think the problem is the same but the symptoms are worse - endless recursion and at best a panic for a double fault. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 15 22:50:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06625 for current-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:50:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-10.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06617 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:50:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA02163; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Antti-Pekka Liedes cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcm fails to attach in -current In-Reply-To: <19971013162553.43739@hutcs.cs.hut.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Antti-Pekka Liedes wrote: > > The pcm-driver in -current fails to attach to my Soundblaster 32. The last > kernel where the pcm-driver works was build on Sep 18th, I haven't changed > my kernel config since, but in all later kernels the pcm-driver hasn't > worked. I'm using the same soundcard, and two things prevented me from getting the pcm driver to work. First off you need to set the flags to 0x1n, where n is your secondary dma channel. Secondly, try removing the pnp controller line from your kernel configuration file, I've noticed the pnp driver in -current seems to "attach" incorrectly (to pcm1 none the less), ignoring the secondary dma channel, giving everything fits. Also, make sure you're using the correct dsp device (pnp attaches to dsp1, pcm trys dsp0). - alex From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 00:08:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA10937 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA10927 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 3975 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Oct 1997 07:09:13 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-100797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: lockmgr panic Cc: j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bruce Evans; On 16-Oct-97 you wrote: > >Speaking of bandaids, would anybody mind me committing Mr. KATO's > >fix/hack? (Of course, unless he's going to commit it himself.) The > >patch seems to solve the vn(4) lockmgr problem. > > I think it substitutes panics with deadlock possibilities. Perhaps > the deadlocks are rare. Nope. Easy to do. Sometimes during boot. There is a timong or hardware component to this, as we see it in the manufacturing lab; Same disk, same install, replace a motherboard and its gone. > >I haven't made a release on a 2.2.5-BETA system lately. If the > >problem there is the same, i would vote for moving the fix there as > > I think the problem is the same but the symptoms are worse - endless > recursion and at best a panic for a double fault. Yup. Seen that lately, but it goes away as quickly as it comes. If you need machines to test this on, let me know. --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 06:16:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA27780 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA27773 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA00273 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:16:13 +0200 (CEST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: RECOMPILE YOU LKMs!!!! From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:16:08 +0200 Message-ID: <271.877007768@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk By no it should go without saying that it is mandatory to recompile LKM whenever you see any commits saying anything about vnodes, vops or vfs. You've been warned! :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 09:27:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08541 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:27:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08536 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA20560 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id LAA25097; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19971016112650.11368@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:26:50 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Can I have the pointy cap please? (or did someone really break something?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -current, updated as of a few minutes ago, and a kernel build returns: cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DTCPSYNRED -DI586_FAST_BCOPY -DIPFORWARDSRCRT=0 -DIPFORWARDING=0 -DMAXSYSGID=200 -DMAXSYSUID=200 -DGR_INET=600 -DMCSNET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../kern/vfs_bio.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DTCPSYNRED -DI586_FAST_BCOPY -DIPFORWARDSRCRT=0 -DIPFORWARDING=0 -DMAXSYSGID=200 -DMAXSYSUID=200 -DGR_INET=600 -DMCSNET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../kern/vfs_cache.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DTCPSYNRED -DI586_FAST_BCOPY -DIPFORWARDSRCRT=0 -DIPFORWARDING=0 -DMAXSYSGID=200 -DMAXSYSUID=200 -DGR_INET=600 -DMCSNET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../kern/vfs_cluster.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DTCPSYNRED -DI586_FAST_BCOPY -DIPFORWARDSRCRT=0 -DIPFORWARDING=0 -DMAXSYSGID=200 -DMAXSYSUID=200 -DGR_INET=600 -DMCSNET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../kern/vfs_conf.c make: don't know how to make ../../kern/vfs_default.c. Stop bash# Hmmm.... and yes, the file really isn't there. Is the "megacommit" thing that was done last night (which WAS in this layer) responsible for this? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex modem support is now available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| 56kbps DIGITAL ISDN DOV on analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 10:50:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA13599 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13563 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18933; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:49:57 +0200 (CEST) To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I have the pointy cap please? (or did someone really break something?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:26:50 CDT." <19971016112650.11368@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:49:57 +0200 Message-ID: <18931.877024197@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971016112650.11368@Mars.Mcs.Net>, Karl Denninger writes: >make: don't know how to make ../../kern/vfs_default.c. Stop >bash# > >Hmmm.... and yes, the file really isn't there. > >Is the "megacommit" thing that was done last night (which WAS in this layer) >responsible for this? Fixed. <:-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 10:57:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA14112 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14107 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id MAA26492; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id MAA28192; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19971016125657.25670@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:56:57 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Karl Denninger , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I have the pointy cap please? (or did someone really break something?) References: <19971016112650.11368@Mars.Mcs.Net> <18931.877024197@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: <18931.877024197@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 07:49:57PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 07:49:57PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <19971016112650.11368@Mars.Mcs.Net>, Karl Denninger writes: > > >make: don't know how to make ../../kern/vfs_default.c. Stop > >bash# > > > >Hmmm.... and yes, the file really isn't there. > > > >Is the "megacommit" thing that was done last night (which WAS in this layer) > >responsible for this? > > Fixed. > > <:-) hehhehehehe... :-) Do you (or anyone else) know if this megacommit will screw me using nfs_bio.c 1.41 (instead of 1.44)? I have to do this to avoid panics due to problems with the small-write consolidation that were introduced in 1.42. Since there are major changes in the I/O subsystem, I thought I'd ask before finding out the hard way. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex modem support is now available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| 56kbps DIGITAL ISDN DOV on analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 11:20:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15234 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:20:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15219 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA14489 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:20:46 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA01706; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:10:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971016201011.KQ06713@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:10:11 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lockmgr panic References: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Oct 16, 1997 00:09:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Simon Shapiro wrote: > > I think it substitutes panics with deadlock possibilities. Perhaps > > the deadlocks are rare. > > Nope. Easy to do. Sometimes during boot. Huh? Are you in a different movie, Simon? I was talking about Mr. KATO's fix for the recursive lock in the vn(4) device. His fix was only applied to /sys/dev/vn.c, so unless you are booting off a vn disk :-), i can't see where this is applicable to your description. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 11:21:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15259 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:21:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15251 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA14530 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:21:00 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA01732; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:13:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971016201312.IG17056@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:13:12 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lockmgr panic References: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Oct 16, 1997 15:09:25 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > >Speaking of bandaids, would anybody mind me committing Mr. KATO's > >fix/hack? (Of course, unless he's going to commit it himself.) The > >patch seems to solve the vn(4) lockmgr problem. > > I think it substitutes panics with deadlock possibilities. Perhaps > the deadlocks are rare. Where do you think the deadlock might happen? I don't pretend to understand the full details of the entire vn access, but from a cursory review, i fail to see the deadlock danger. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 11:23:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15433 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15418 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23465; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:22:08 +0200 (CEST) To: Karl Denninger cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can I have the pointy cap please? (or did someone really break something?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:56:57 CDT." <19971016125657.25670@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:22:07 +0200 Message-ID: <23462.877026127@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971016125657.25670@Mars.Mcs.Net>, Karl Denninger writes: >Do you (or anyone else) know if this megacommit will screw me using >nfs_bio.c 1.41 (instead of 1.44)? I have to do this to avoid panics >due to problems with the small-write consolidation that were introduced >in 1.42. Since there are major changes in the I/O subsystem, I thought >I'd ask before finding out the hard way. I have no idea really. All these changes are supposed to be functional NO-OPs, its merely reordering the way the bits cling together (I hope!) not what they do, so I guess the likely answer to your question is that if nfs_bio.c compiles, then you're probably safe. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 13:47:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA24004 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23991 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25142 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:46:59 +0200 (CEST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/gnu/ext2fs ext2_alloc.c ext2_extern.h ext2_inode.c ext2_readwrite.c ext2_vfsops.c ext2_vnops.c src/sys/isofs/cd9660 cd9660_vnops.c src/sys/kern vfs_default.c vnode_if.src src/sys/miscfs/deadfs dead_vnops.c ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:32:41 PDT." <199710162032.NAA10084@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:46:57 +0200 Message-ID: <25140.877034817@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We're down from 404 to 292 vop functions (= -27% !). Keep you eyes open for anything I might have botched. BUT REMEMBER TO RECOMPILE YOUR LKMS before reporting trouble! Poul-Henning PS: Now that this starts to look much simpler I hope we will see more people hack filesystems. It's a most productive and interesting area. I have a bunch of ideas in case anybody lacks a good idea for some work/project/hacking. > Modified files: > sys/gnu/ext2fs ext2_alloc.c ext2_extern.h ext2_inode.c > ext2_readwrite.c ext2_vfsops.c > ext2_vnops.c > sys/isofs/cd9660 cd9660_vnops.c > sys/kern vfs_default.c vnode_if.src > sys/miscfs/deadfs dead_vnops.c > sys/miscfs/devfs devfs_vnops.c > sys/miscfs/fdesc fdesc_vnops.c [...] -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 14:34:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA26038 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA26021 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:33:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA11003 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:33:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id QAA07166; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:33:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19971016163357.03536@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:33:57 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: current@freebsd.org Subject: "make world" insanity - missing bits :-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Codebase# tail -20 /var/tmp/world.status ===> sbin/savecore ===> sbin/scsi ===> sbin/scsiformat ===> sbin/shutdown ===> sbin/slattach ===> sbin/startslip ===> sbin/spppcontrol cd: can't cd to /usr/src/sbin/spppcontrol *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 And there's a bunch more commits coming in on the filesystem layers in the kernel. Should I stay away from the tree for a couple of days? -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex modem support is now available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| 56kbps DIGITAL ISDN DOV on analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 15:47:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA29507 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA29499; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA00891; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT) To: current@freebsd.org cc: brian@freebsd.org Subject: Whoops! Kernel ppp now *requires* the packet filter. Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:12 -0700 Message-ID: <888.877042032@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sh ../../conf/newvers.sh ZAPHOD -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET cc -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -c vers.c loading kernel if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_validate' referenced from text segment if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 I somehow doubt that this is intentional. :) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 16:29:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01374 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01366 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23221; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199710162235.SAA23221@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/gnu/ext2fs ext2_alloc.c ext2_extern.h [...] In-Reply-To: <25140.877034817@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <199710162032.NAA10084@freefall.freebsd.org> <25140.877034817@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Now that this starts to look much simpler I hope we will see more > people hack filesystems. It's a most productive and interesting area. > I have a bunch of ideas in case anybody lacks a good idea for some > work/project/hacking. I'd love to see an ACL layer which could be added on top of any existing filesystem. I'd also be interested in seeing someone hack poll to have a `poll for metadata change' option. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 17:14:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA04102 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:14:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04083; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02579; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:13:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710170013.BAA02579@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whoops! Kernel ppp now *requires* the packet filter. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:47:12 PDT." <888.877042032@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:13:58 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > sh ../../conf/newvers.sh ZAPHOD -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET > cc -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -c vers.c > loading kernel > if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_validate' referenced from text segment > if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment > if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment > if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment > if_ppp.o: Undefined symbol `_bpf_filter' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > I somehow doubt that this is intentional. :) Fixed. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 16 20:15:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14298 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14289 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA06045; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971016201525.24549@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:15:25 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Current Subject: dup alloc, another person is seeing it... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well.. I'd like to report that a friend of mine is encountering the dup alloc panic when installing 2.2.1-R from the cd.. he's trying to install FreeBSD onto his Mac via VirtualPC... the message is: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc I advised him to wipe the disk to see if that would get him past the problem... any advice? possible debugging options? ttyl.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 17 04:39:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06255 for current-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA06249 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 04:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA09275 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:38:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00664 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:38:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Current Subject: nullfs & current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, after some months I retried nullfs mounted dirs. It seems to mostly work (at least It doesn`t panic). But it seems to have some leaks freeing files. I did: mount /dev/ccd0c /usr/obj~ mount_nullfs /usr/obj~ /usr/a cd /usr/a; iozone 20 df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on ... /dev/ccd0c 126519 20504 99689 17% /usr/obj~ /usr/obj~ 126519 20504 99689 17% /usr/a ^^^^^ ls -l /usr/a; ls -l /usr/obj~ (shows nothing) umounting both FS's and remounting shows the expected output: ... /dev/ccd0c 126519 0 126519 0% /usr/obj~ Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 17 05:46:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA09105 for current-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 05:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA09100 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 05:46:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23827; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:45:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00647; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:45:09 +0200 (CEST) To: Michael Reifenberger cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: nullfs & current In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:38:54 +0200." Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:45:09 +0200 Message-ID: <645.877092309@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Michael Rei fenberger writes: >Hi, >after some months I retried nullfs mounted dirs. >It seems to mostly work (at least It doesn`t panic). >But it seems to have some leaks freeing files. Well, go! go! go! You know where the sources live :-) Seriously, this should be the simplest layered filesystem possible, so unless we can get that to work there is no hope for the rest of them, so I hope somebody will spend some time on it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 17 15:08:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11828 for current-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from goethe.c4systm.com (jds@goethe.c4systm.com [204.120.124.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11819 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jds@c4systm.com) Received: from localhost (jds@localhost) by goethe.c4systm.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28393 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:07:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: goethe.c4systm.com: jds owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:07:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "James D. Stewart" To: FreeBSD-Current Mailing List Subject: While trying to update those LKM's... Message-ID: X-Command: jds@c4systm.com hAven showlist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know I must have missed something - the last make world I did was on Oct 11th, and it was fine. Pulled down the latest source as of about 2:00 PM EDT, and this happened with "make world" in the lkm dir. It happens with all of the *fs subdirs, too. Point me, please. JDS -- #make world . . (seems like OK stuff) . ===> atapi ===> ccd ===> cd9660 ===> coff ===> fdesc cc -O -pipe -DFDESC -DKERNEL -DACTUALLY_LKM_NOT_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -DVFS_LKM -DMODVNOPS=fdesc_modvnops -I . -c /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c In file included from /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:51: /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:461: warning: `struct vop_lease_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:461: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:461: warning: which is probably not what you want. /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:475: warning: `struct vop_lease_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:501: warning: `struct vop_lookup_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:505: warning: `struct vop_islocked_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:506: warning: `struct vop_lock_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:507: warning: `struct vop_unlock_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:508: warning: `struct vop_islocked_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:509: warning: `struct vop_lock_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:510: warning: `struct vop_poll_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:511: warning: `struct vop_unlock_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:512: warning: `struct vop_pathconf_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:513: warning: `struct vop_revoke_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/sys/vnode.h:514: warning: `struct vop_lock_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:87: warning: `struct vop_getattr_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:90: warning: `struct vop_inactive_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:91: warning: `struct vop_ioctl_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:92: warning: `struct vop_lookup_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:93: warning: `struct vop_open_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:94: warning: `struct vop_print_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:95: warning: `struct vop_read_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:96: warning: `struct vop_readdir_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:97: warning: `struct vop_readlink_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:98: warning: `struct vop_reclaim_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:99: warning: `struct vop_poll_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:100: warning: `struct vop_setattr_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:101: warning: `struct vop_write_args' declared inside parameter list /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_lookup': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:192: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:92: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:193: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:194: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:195: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:209: warning: implicit declaration of function `VOP_UNLOCK' /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_open': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:334: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:93: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:335: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:348: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:353: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:353: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_attr': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:378: warning: implicit declaration of function `VOP_GETATTR' /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_getattr': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:427: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:87: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:428: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:429: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:480: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:480: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_setattr': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:502: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:100: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:503: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:511: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:522: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:533: warning: implicit declaration of function `VOP_SETATTR' /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:533: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:533: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:533: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_readdir': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:574: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:96: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:575: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:584: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:587: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:600: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_readlink': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:682: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:97: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:683: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:691: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_read': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:707: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:95: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:710: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:712: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:712: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_write': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:731: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:101: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:734: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:736: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:736: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_ioctl': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:757: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:91: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:760: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:762: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:763: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:763: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:763: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_poll': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:782: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:99: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:785: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:787: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:787: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:791: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:791: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_inactive': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:804: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:90: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:805: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:811: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_reclaim': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:821: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:98: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:822: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: In function `fdesc_print': /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:841: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:94: prototype declaration /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c: At top level: /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:860: `vop_access_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:860: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[1].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:861: `vop_bmap_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:861: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[2].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:862: `vop_getattr_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:862: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[3].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:863: `vop_inactive_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:863: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[4].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:864: `vop_ioctl_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:864: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[5].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:865: `vop_lookup_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:865: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[6].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:866: `vop_open_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:866: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[7].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:867: `vop_pathconf_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:867: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[8].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:868: `vop_poll_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:868: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[9].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:869: `vop_print_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:869: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[10].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:870: `vop_read_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:870: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[11].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:871: `vop_readdir_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:871: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[12].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:872: `vop_readlink_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:872: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[13].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:873: `vop_reclaim_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:873: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[14].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:874: `vop_setattr_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:874: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[15].opve_op' is not constant /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:875: `vop_write_desc' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/lkm/fdesc/../../sys/miscfs/fdesc/fdesc_vnops.c:875: initializer element for `fdesc_vnodeop_entries[16].opve_op' is not constant *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 17 17:15:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA17285 for current-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA17244 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id BAA03609 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:00:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA17675; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:51:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19971018015121.08653@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:51:21 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make world problems with awk.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Only want to let you know ... -current from today: ===> doc cc -O -pipe -I/home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk -I/home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DGAWK -DDEFPATH=\".\" -I/usr/obj/home/src/tmp/usr/include -c /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/array.c In file included from /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/awk.h:176, from /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/array.c:40: /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/dfa.h:312: parse error before `int' In file included from /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/array.c:40: /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/awk.h:178: field `pat' has incomplete type /home/src/gnu/usr.bin/awk/../../../contrib/awk/awk.h:179: field `regs' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' andreas@klemm.gtn.com - http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html andreas@FreeBSD.ORG - http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 00:35:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA02680 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:35:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (root@tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA02675 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@calm.imasy.or.jp) Received: (from ume@localhost) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.8.7+2.7Wbeta7/3.4W4-96030215) with UUCP id QAA23069 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:18:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from peace.calm.imasy.or.jp (root@peace.calm.imasy.or.jp [158.214.107.233]) by mail.calm.imasy.or.jp (8.8.7/3.6Wbeta7-CHAOS1.6) with ESMTP id QAA10810 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:17:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (ume@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peace.calm.imasy.or.jp (8.8.7/3.6Wbeta7-CALM1.1) with ESMTP id QAA00345 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:16:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710180716.QAA00345@peace.calm.imasy.or.jp> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: recent -current kernel & MFS causes panic X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92b3 on XEmacs 20.4 (Century) X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:16:32 +0900 From: Hajimu UMEMOTO X-Dispatcher: imput version 971012 Lines: 35 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My recent -current SMP kernel cvsuped at 10/17 was panic when using MFS mount. My kernel config contains options MFS line. The backtrace is here. ume@peace:117# gdb -k /var/crash/kernel.0 /var/crash/vmcore.0 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 279000 current pcb at 21835c panic: mfs_badop called #0 0xf01145ee in boot () (kgdb) where #0 0xf01145ee in boot () #1 0xf011493d in panic () #2 0xf01b22fd in mfs_badop () #3 0xf01af92f in ffs_mountfs () #4 0xf01b1cd2 in mfs_mount () #5 0xf01394d9 in mount () #6 0xf01da0dc in syscall () #7 0x8e25 in ?? () #8 0x107f in ?? () (kgdb) -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@calm.imasy.or.jp ume@iabs.hitachi.co.jp http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 01:47:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA05604 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:47:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA05595 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA18160; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971018014731.31913@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 01:47:31 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Current Subject: Doug Rabson's kernel linker code.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well.. I was reading through the code to get a better understand of it.. and I think that we need to export the make variable LOAD_ADDRESS from the Makefile to kernel, as the file kern/link_aout.c has this same value hard coded in it... should something like: load_address.h: echo "#define LOAD_ADDRESS ${LOAD_ADDRESS}" > ${.TARGET} and include it from kern_link_aout.c? or is there already another mechanism in place for this? -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 06:20:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17760 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from innocence.interface-business.de (innocence.interface-business.de [193.101.57.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA17749 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:20:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by innocence.interface-business.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id PAA21902; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:20:38 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA16547; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:14:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971018151405.NR32632@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:14:05 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: "make world" insanity - missing bits :-) References: <19971016163357.03536@Mars.Mcs.Net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19971016163357.03536@Mars.Mcs.Net>; from Karl Denninger on Oct 16, 1997 16:33:57 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Karl Denninger wrote: > ===> sbin/startslip > ===> sbin/spppcontrol > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/sbin/spppcontrol > *** Error code 2 Use `cvs update -Pd'. The -d is important, or directories that have been added in the repository won't show up in your checked out tree. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 08:57:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23056 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23049 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.99]) by eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.3W9) with ESMTP id AAA04787; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:59:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl5) with ESMTP id AAA04904; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:57:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710181557.AAA04904@gneiss.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: bde@zeta.org.au Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: lockmgr panic From: KATO Takenori In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:09:25 +1000" References: <199710160509.PAA08005@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 03 72 85 36 62 46 23 03 52 B1 10 22 44 10 0D 9E Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:57:10 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I think it substitutes panics with deadlock possibilities. Perhaps > the deadlocks are rare. I agree about possiblity of deadlock. The vn driver and ufs/ffs stuff are called recursively to operate one vnode. But, I cannot find condition where deadlock happens. ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya, 464-01, Japan PGP public key: finger kato@eclogite.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp ------------------- Powered by FreeBSD(98) ------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 09:00:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23286 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23272 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA22417; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:00:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id LAA19741; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19971018110054.23108@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:00:54 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make world" insanity - missing bits :-) References: <19971016163357.03536@Mars.Mcs.Net> <19971018151405.NR32632@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <19971018151405.NR32632@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch on Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 03:14:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did, and fixed that one..... :-) Now I'm getting header inconsistencies in awk. Maybe I'll stay away from "make world" for a few days. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex modem support is now available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| 56kbps DIGITAL ISDN DOV on analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 03:14:05PM +0200, J Wunsch wrote: > As Karl Denninger wrote: > > > ===> sbin/startslip > > ===> sbin/spppcontrol > > cd: can't cd to /usr/src/sbin/spppcontrol > > *** Error code 2 > > Use `cvs update -Pd'. The -d is important, or directories that have > been added in the repository won't show up in your checked out tree. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 09:05:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23495 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us (gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us [199.217.245.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23490 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenth@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us) Received: (from kenth@localhost) by gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA01866; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:04:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Kent Hamilton Message-Id: <199710181604.LAA01866@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us> Subject: FreeBSD-current and XFree3.9m lockups To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, beta@xfree86.org Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:04:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD-current and XFree86 3.9m (beta) and I've just started having weird lockup's after cvsup'ing FreeBSD on Wed. I can start X and it's fine until I hit any mouse button then the entire system freezes, no ping in to it, no Ctl-Alt-Del, no nothing, only out is to hit reset. My last make world was about 3 weeks ago. My system has a Logitech PS/2 mouse and I use moused with the XFree86 mouse type set to /dev/sysmouse and Mousesystems in the XFree config. Any help would be great. I haven't gone to look and see what changed recently that might cause it yet but.... -- Kent Hamilton Work: KHamilton@Hunter.COM Home: KentH@HNS.St-Louis.MO.US From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 10:40:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26897 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26892 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by earth.mat.net (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA12994 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:40:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@picnic.mat.net To: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: /usr/src/usr.sbin/pppd/options.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk That file fails during the depend phase, because it includes pcap-int.h. I finally found pcap-int.h in /usr/src/contrib/libpcap, and nowhere else. I don't know if maybe it would have been installed somewhere underneath /usr/include had the make buildworld completed, because it didn't complete. That contrib path isn't in the include path for pppd (in the makefile). I don't know enough about pppd to fix this, but I hope this is a good start for whoever was working on it. BTW, this couldn't have anything to do with the cvs -dP args, because I'm careful never to do anything else to my source tree. Just in case I could have somehow been wrong, I retried that anyhow, but it's not that. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 12:31:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00769 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00764 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11770; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710181930.MAA11770@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Karl Denninger cc: Joerg Wunsch , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make world" insanity - missing bits :-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:00:54 CDT." <19971018110054.23108@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:30:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I will be happy to report back when I can do "make world". Had a disk crash due to me hacking on the linux emulation later prior to that one of my disks died so I returned the disk and got a Seagate Cheetah 4.3 GB 10,000 rpm 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 16:37:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09162 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09155 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09795; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710182336.QAA09795@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 to: Karl Denninger , Joerg Wunsch , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make world" insanity - missing bits :-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:30:07 PDT." <199710181930.MAA11770@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:36:54 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I managed to do a "make world" . I cvsup the -current around 12:30 PM today. Currently running on -current kernel+system. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 17:55:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12591 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12586 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09391 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:55:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710190055.SAA09391@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: current@freebsd.org Subject: usable current SNAP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:55:43 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). Can someone suggest a suitable current SNAP date that will install without hassle on: - 486dx2/66 - SMC 8013 ISA ethercard - WD caviar (E)IDE drive -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 18:48:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA14929 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA14921 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA07620; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:18:02 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971019111802.57002@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:18:02 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Passe Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usable current SNAP References: <199710190055.SAA09391@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710190055.SAA09391@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 06:55:43PM -0600 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 06:55:43PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > Hi, > > I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to > be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To quote: So why use current? The main reasons are: o You yourself might be working on some part of the source tree. Keeping ``current'' is an absolute requirement. o You may be an active tester, which imples that you're willing to spend time working through problems in order to ensure that FreeBSD-CURRENT remains as sane as possible. You may also wish to make topical suggestions on changes and the general direction of FreeBSD. o You may just want to keep an eye on things and use the current sources for reference purposes. People occasionally have other reasons for wanting to use FreeBSD-CURRENT. The following are not good reasons: o They see it as a way to be the first on the block with great new FreeBSD features. This is not a good reason, because there's no reason to believe that the features will stay, and there is good reason to believe that they will be unstable. o They see it as a quick way of getting bug fixes. In fact, it's a way of testing bug fixes. Bug fixes will be retrofitted into the -STABLE branch as soon as they have been properly tested. o They see it as the newest officially supported release of FreeBSD. This is incorrect: FreeBSD-CURRENT is not officially supported. The support is provided by the users. If you want to impress a customer, I would have thought that -stable would be a much better choice. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:02:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA15790 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:02:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA15776 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smp@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09664; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710190202.UAA09664@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Greg Lehey cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usable current SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:18:02 +0930." <19971019111802.57002@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:02:08 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >> I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to >> be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). > >I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To >quote: > ... Yes, I know all this, I'm one of the people doing development work with 3.0-current, I won't be back complaining that xxx doesn't work! I have various assorted reasons, I just would like to here "I installed SNAP-9710xx and all went well" from someone b4 grabbing the tarballs... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:12:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA16231 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA16226 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA07723; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:42:25 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19971019114225.54861@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:42:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Passe Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usable current SNAP References: <19971019111802.57002@lemis.com> <199710190202.UAA09664@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710190202.UAA09664@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 08:02:08PM -0600 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 08:02:08PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > Hi, > >>> I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to >>> be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). >> >> I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To >> quote: >> ... > > Yes, I know all this, I'm one of the people doing development work > with 3.0-current, I won't be back complaining that xxx doesn't work! And your customers? > I have various assorted reasons, I just would like to here "I installed > SNAP-9710xx and all went well" from someone b4 grabbing > the tarballs... Oh well. The last two weeks I built -current, and it seems to be working fine. More specifically, I supped on the 9th and the 16th. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:45:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17552 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17544 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA01206 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:45:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199710190245.VAA01206@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Info about MFS To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:45:22 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My first-cut attempt of fixing MFS only helped a little. It is broken, and please don't bother using it until I, PHK or someone else fixes it. I am working on it right now. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:48:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17682 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17662 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA01886; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199710190247.VAA01886@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: usable current SNAP In-Reply-To: <19971019114225.54861@lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Oct 19, 97 11:42:25 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:47:24 -0500 (EST) Cc: smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey said: > On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 08:02:08PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > > Hi, > > > >>> I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to > >>> be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). > >> > >> I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To > >> quote: > >> ... > > > > Yes, I know all this, I'm one of the people doing development work > > with 3.0-current, I won't be back complaining that xxx doesn't work! > > And your customers? > > > I have various assorted reasons, I just would like to here "I installed > > SNAP-9710xx and all went well" from someone b4 grabbing > > the tarballs... > > Oh well. The last two weeks I built -current, and it seems to be > working fine. More specifically, I supped on the 9th and the 16th. > MFS doesn't work in -current, and I am working on it now. I have been happiest with about Oct10 or so. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:55:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17936 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from taliesin.cs.ucla.edu (Taliesin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.96.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA17931 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottm@cs.ucla.edu) From: scottm@cs.ucla.edu Received: (qmail 23197 invoked by uid 855); 19 Oct 1997 02:55:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19971019025550.23196.qmail@taliesin.cs.ucla.edu> Subject: 3.0-current from today up and running To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Got mine up and running, too. -- Scott Michel | Fate the weight UCLA Computer Science | is just PhD Graduate Student | of circumstances From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 18 19:59:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA18167 for current-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18161 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id VAA01896; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:59:09 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199710190259.VAA01896@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: usable current SNAP In-Reply-To: <19971019111802.57002@lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Oct 19, 97 11:18:02 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:59:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey said: > On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 06:55:43PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need to bring up a web server this week using current. This needs to > > be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client). > > I don't understand this. This is *not* the purpose of -current. To > quote: > (good comments from Greg deleted) > > If you want to impress a customer, I would have thought that -stable > would be a much better choice. > The only point that I might disagree with you on is that there are times that there are necessary features in -current. Basically, with -current the person who uses it is on their own. Hopefully, those who use it don't end up giving FreeBSD a bad reputation because of the pre-Alpha/Alpha/Beta quality of the code. Important features would be practically the only reason for violating the "rule." -stable and -current aren't that far away in performance (it isn't like 2.1 vs. 2.2.), 2.2 and 3.0 are pretty close. My opinion is that those who use -current in production get absolutely no sympathy from me (or most others on the team.) However, some people who are actively contributing to FreeBSD get quite a bit more leeway (I am willing to go further out of my way to help) than others. (They are more likely to understand the state of the code, and are generally willing and able to help us all more in solving problems that they encounter.) But, in general, I agree that it is not a very good idea to use -current in production without understanding that the support issues are significant. The FreeBSD group of developers are already overloaded, and simply do not need the additional problems of supporting -current. There is very little more irritating than to be coerced to fix a bug that isn't ready to be fixed yet. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com