From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 11 07:50:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07563 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.cc.nih.gov (pop.cc.nih.gov [137.187.120.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07528 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from aling@localhost) by pop.cc.nih.gov (8.8.4/8.8.3) id KAA07240; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708111449.KAA07240@pop.cc.nih.gov> From: "A Ling" To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 10:49:49 -0400 Reply-To: "A Ling" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Alexander Ling's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ee (default) word-wrap can cause vipw/chsh indigestion Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As a newbie to FreeBSD 2.2.2-R, I had set my default editor to ee (in an effort to avoid vi). When I used vipw or chsh to change the default shell (specified at the end of a line in the /etc/passwd file), ee word-wrapped (evidently obeying the right margin option is on by default), and inserted a newline in the process. Unfortunately, this resulted in pwd_mkdb errors, and no change to the default shell: "/etc/pw.000237" 14 lines, 303 characters chsh: rebuilding the database... pwd_mkdb: corrupted entry pwd_mkdb: at line #13 pwd_mkdb: /etc/pw.000237: Inappropriate file type or format chsh: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged I still think ee is easier to get started with than vi, but perhaps a caveat or other warning either in the man page for ee, or in the FAQ (even though it likely won't be frequently asked -- perhaps a troubleshooting grab bag: "warnings, pitfalls, and unanticipated interactions"? ;-) will help someone else who's digested http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/newuser/newuser.html but still has a long way to go before knowing the ropes. To be honest, the ee man page already says: There are three states for text operation in ee: free- form, margins, and automatic formatting. "Free-form" is best used for things like programming. There are no restrictions on the length of lines, and no formatting takes place. I just needed to be hit over the head more emphatically that using chsh/vipw is a "thing like programming". Many thanks and best regards to all of you who are making FreeBSD useful to even those of us who are still learning those ropes! Alex Ling, MD AL52x@nih.gov (301) 496-7700 x235 (voice) Bldg 10, Rm 1C-660 NIH Clinical Center Bethesda, Md 20892-1182 From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 11 19:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA16776 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16758 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous213.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.213]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15700; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 03:22:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id DAA00573; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 03:02:12 +0200 (MET DST) To: "A Ling" Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ee (default) word-wrap can cause vipw/chsh indigestion References: <199708111449.KAA07240@pop.cc.nih.gov> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 12 Aug 1997 03:02:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: "A Ling"'s message of Mon, 11 Aug 97 10:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 20 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "A Ling" writes: > As a newbie to FreeBSD 2.2.2-R, I had set my default editor to > ee (in an effort to avoid vi). When I used vipw or chsh to > change the default shell (specified at the end of a line in the > /etc/passwd file), ee word-wrapped (evidently obeying the right > margin option is on by default), and inserted a newline in the > process. Unfortunately, this resulted in pwd_mkdb errors, and > no change to the default shell: > > "/etc/pw.000237" 14 lines, 303 characters > chsh: rebuilding the database... > pwd_mkdb: corrupted entry > pwd_mkdb: at line #13 > pwd_mkdb: /etc/pw.000237: Inappropriate file type or format > chsh: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged In FreeBSD-3.0-current pwd_mkdb(8) accept empty lines. -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 12 04:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16611 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 04:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv2.zib.de (mailsrv2.zib.de [130.73.121.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16605 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 04:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soft13.zib.de by mailsrv2.zib.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA05344; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:23:35 +0200 Received: by soft13.zib.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18983; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:23:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:23:34 +0200 From: schneider@zib.de (Wolfram Schneider) Message-Id: <199708121123.NAA18983@soft13.zib.de> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: missing /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/doc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is no doc and www directory at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/ Wolfram From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 12 14:06:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20294 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.net (gr-max8-81.iserv.net [206.114.38.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20261 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from varda.zigg.net (varda.zigg.net [192.168.0.3]) by megaweapon.zigg.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04315 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33F0D030.4599@iserv.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:05:52 -0400 From: Matt Behrens Organization: Zigg Computer Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Supported Hardware Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have tested the following hardware: Does not work 3Com 3C515 (10/100 ISA card) Does work Hayes Accura 56K (with PnP disabled) -- Matt Behrens Zigg Computer Services http://www.iserv.net/~zigg/ From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 13 13:46:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26418 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tki.net (tki.net [206.152.154.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26403 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rum.tki.net (muffdiver.tki.net [206.152.154.21]) by tki.net (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA20662 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33F21C07.7727@tki.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:41:43 -0400 From: Rumseen Beitmirza Reply-To: rum@tki.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: magazine wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am wondering if the freebsd orginzation ever thought of geting out a Freebsd journal like the Linux Journal? I currently am a subscriber to the linux journal and I love it to death. If I don't get my monthly issue I go crazy. The reason I love the journal so much is when I just started using linux the Linux Journal and a it's valuble information helped me as much if not more then all the linux books published. Every month I read about something new and fantistic on linux. I want a Freebsd Magazine, so I can get the same good help and advice for my Freebsd that I get every month on linux. please email me back at jamesw@tki.net jamesw From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 13 16:05:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05453 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.macatawa.org (freenet.macatawa.org [206.26.113.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05442 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: two-step@macatawa.org Received: from default (pm3-09.macatawa.org [206.26.113.149]) by freenet.macatawa.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24802 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 19:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970813190754.0079f5d0@macatawa.org> X-Sender: two-step@macatawa.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 19:08:02 +0100 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Free BSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From what I understand, freeBSD is an operating system and webserver? I made a boot disk, but don't understand 1/10 of all the documentation. I would like to experience this system, but don't want to chance screwing up my present win95 system. Maybe a programmer can understand all your documentation, but it is a far cry from user-friendly. and easy to install? what a laugh, maybe easy for a programmer. To install win95 I didn't need to know all about my hardware. I'm an A+ certified PC technician and still can't understand your documentation. Even making the boot disk was not like your instructions said. The command line referred to the boot(1).flp file as boot.flp. How do you expect people to work with your files when you can't even refer to them by the same name in the documentation as is its actual name when the file is downloaded. Then the ftp site has a mile long list of files, and no one but someone who has already installed this 100 times could possibly know which files he needs. Maybe your OS/Server is good, but most people will never know it until you make it much more user-friendly. From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 13 17:24:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09787 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.net (ritchie-inet.loop.net [207.211.60.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09768 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heart.134.139.47.130 (p08.sats00.loop.net [207.211.64.12]) by ritchie.loop.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA12929 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <302E9A03.880AEFD0@loop.com> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:34:11 -0700 From: Steve Reply-To: Strange@loop.com Organization: The Cereal Killer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd on win95 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------66EAFE8A76DA33A7280F315D" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------66EAFE8A76DA33A7280F315D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I was unable to find any information on how to install the freeBSD on a win95 system ---- I was wondering how I might do this ---- can I boot the os off of another hard disk? ie ( have win95 on c:\) and have Bsd on Physical drive F:\ ? do you know any programs that will allow me to choose between os's or can I boot unix from floppy when i need it? does it have "shell" command like dos (ie. shell=f:\unix.com) ?? any suggestions--- thank you -- Steve : Strange@loop.com http://www.engr.csulb.edu/~stephenc --------------66EAFE8A76DA33A7280F315D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Steve Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Steve n: ;Steve adr: ;;;Los Angeles (La Mirada);CA;90638; email;internet: Strange@loop.com title: The Cereal Killer x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------66EAFE8A76DA33A7280F315D-- From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 13 22:50:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA25741 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redemption.uniserve.com (redemption.uniserve.com [204.191.197.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25736 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fredmacd [204.244.163.141] by redemption.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wysnd-0003mi-00; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:50:21 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970814054927.00667174@pop.uniserve.com> X-Sender: cedarinn@pop.uniserve.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:49:27 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: cedar inn of tsawwassen Subject: freebsd Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a P120 ibm compatible and run a bed & breakfast from my home. What would freebsd do for me. From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 13 22:59:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA26162 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (root@andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26157 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA14195; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Rumseen Beitmirza cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: magazine wanted In-Reply-To: <33F21C07.7727@tki.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Rumseen Beitmirza wrote: > Hello, > > > I am wondering if the freebsd orginzation ever thought of geting out a > Freebsd journal like the Linux Journal? I currently am a subscriber to > the linux journal and I love it to death. If I don't get my monthly > issue I go crazy. The reason I love the journal so much is when I just > started using linux the Linux Journal and a it's valuble information > helped me as much if not more then all the linux books published. Every > month I read about something new and fantistic on linux. > I want a Freebsd Magazine, so I can get the same good help and advice > for my Freebsd that I get every month on linux. > > please email me back at jamesw@tki.net > > jamesw > There's a FreeBSD Newletter. You might want to sign up for it at http://www.freebsd.org. What kinds of topics would interest you, or what kinds of topics were expecially helpful in the Linux Journal? Annelise From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 14 08:09:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22537 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22530 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA18830; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA03737; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: Annelise Anderson cc: Rumseen Beitmirza , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: magazine wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Annelise Anderson wrote: > There's a FreeBSD Newletter. You might want to sign up for it at > http://www.freebsd.org. Does anyone know if the Free Systems Journal is still in the works? That sounded more interesting than the Linux Journal, or a potential FreeBSD Journal. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 14 13:51:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12795 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eclipse.bloomfield.edu ([207.79.68.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12790 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eclipse.bloomfield.edu ([207.79.69.11]) by eclipse.bloomfield.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id QAA06788 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:42:43 -0400 Message-ID: <33F374A0.6857@bloomfield.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:12:00 -0400 From: charmaine hooke Reply-To: charmaine_hooke@bloomfield.edu Organization: Bloomfield College X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Documentation on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 14 21:14:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05303 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brickbat9.mindspring.com (brickbat9.mindspring.com [207.69.200.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05298 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hal-9000 (camel8.mindspring.com [207.69.200.58]) by brickbat9.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03605 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 00:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33F3D77F.97DE8201@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:13:51 -0600 From: Dan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hi (Mae) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does this work on Freebsd ? You know the apple emulator? You must have heard from someone yes or no. Or know who I could ask if you don't know. Thank you very much...... From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 16 20:11:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27344 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 20:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jet.laker.net (root@jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27336 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 20:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from none (digital-mia-178.laker.net [208.0.232.178]) by jet.laker.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19583 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 23:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <33F53B89.35B5@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 06:32:57 +0100 From: MindBomb Reply-To: gripinc@hotmail.com Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: floppy install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have install.sh, bin.inf, checksum.md5,bin.ab,bin.aa,bin.ac,bin.ad, and bin~1.mtr in the \bin directory of my install floppy and for some reason the installation program says that the distribution can not be read. Did I place the files in the wrong directory? floppy? Which file(s) should be on the first floppy if not these. I am installing from msdos formatted 1.44 floppy disks.