From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Mar 23 13:49:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01481 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (root@yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01476 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kryten.nina.org (port-25.ts1.gnv.fdt.net [205.229.51.25]) by yoda.fdt.net with SMTP id QAA03255 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 16:49:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 16:49:30 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.org To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Dump locks up 2.2 system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having a problem with dump locking up or rebooting my system. System: Asus P6NP5 200 PPro 64 megs EDO RAM Adaptec 2940 Micropolis 4421-07 2.1 gig SCSI drive HP C1536A DAT tape (probes as a HP35480A T503) This is the error message copied from the screen as it is not logged by syslog. sd0(ahc0:0:0) SCB 0x2 timed out in command phase SCSISIGI==0x84 SEQADDR==0x42 I don't know if this is the only error as I only saw it once. The other two times the system rebooted. Does anyone have a clue what is causing this? Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House - anonymous From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Mar 23 23:51:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04740 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarkhil.dialup.aha.ru (ppp74.cityline.ru [194.84.93.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04709; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tarkhil@localhost) by tarkhil.dialup.aha.ru (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA15774; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:51:49 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199703240751.KAA15774@tarkhil.dialup.aha.ru> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkhil.dialup.aha.ru: tarkhil@localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PS/2 mouse trouble with 2.2-RELEASE Reply-To: tarkhil@aha.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:51:46 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I've runned 2.1.7-RELEASE for some time, than upgraded to 2.2-RELEASE. My PS/2 mouse (3 buttons) ceased to work at once, saying something like "cannot get device status", while determinig 3-button mouse. Than, all attepmts to use psm0 results in "device not configured". Any help? Alex. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 12:07:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02127 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smyrno.sol.net (smyrno.sol.net [206.55.64.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01902; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from solaria.sol.net (solaria.sol.net [206.55.65.75]) by smyrno.sol.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA25364; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:03:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by solaria.sol.net (8.5/8.5) id OAA18596; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:03:52 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199703242003.OAA18596@solaria.sol.net> Subject: Re: reliable modems? To: spork@super-g.com (spork) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 97 14:03:51 CST Cc: richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "spork" at Jan 13, 97 03:28:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > --> you said: > > > I'd recommend against rack-mount modems. I've used them in the past > > and always wished I hadn't once they get older. Once they get outdated > > single modems can be spread around and used in other places -- rack-mounts > > become large expensive boat-anchors. :-( > > > > Rows of single modems may not look as cool, but they usually make more > > sense. > > I can't agree with this... Just figuring out a way to *power* 200 > modems in a standalone config is a nightmare. I've blown circuit > breakers while plugging in new ones. The cube power supplies are very > unreliable, and very innefficient. Nowt to mention that you have no way > of having a modem busy itself out if it stops working. UUNet, PSI, etal. > are all going for the Ascend Max, which when purchased used, is a pretty > good deal. Not to mention they perform well. My sportster (which has > never given me any problems) is dialed into one now, happily talking with > a Rockwell chipset. > > Why do I say all this? I'm in charge of 200 stand alone modems. > Nightmare, nightmare, nightmare. I won't even start on the Xylogics > RA4000.... I'm coming in a bit late on this :-) I'm sitting about 30 meters from a room where there are TWELVE HUNDRED Courier modems. A local ISP used a bit of creativity and developed a nifty way to set up arrays of 120 Courier modems, complete with phone, power, and network wiring for the four Portmasters on each array. It's a bit scary to see 120 modems all powered by a single step-down transformer (10 identical racks). The modems kick off a bit of heat, too. On the other hand, it's very easy to debug, and is a relatively inexpensive per-port solution to the problem. It's quite impressive to see a telco demarc for 1200 analog lines. They no longer do this: they are running out of room and are exploring other alternatives. They figure that they can either sell the modems to their users (X2-ready!) or sell complete racks to other startup ISP's. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 14:35:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15266 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15216; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA06844; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:23:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:23:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Joe Greco cc: spork , richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reliable modems? In-Reply-To: <199703242003.OAA18596@solaria.sol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm sitting about 30 meters from a room where there are TWELVE HUNDRED > Courier modems. A local ISP used a bit of creativity and developed a > nifty way to set up arrays of 120 Courier modems, complete with phone, > power, and network wiring for the four Portmasters on each array. > It's a bit scary to see 120 modems all powered by a single step-down > transformer (10 identical racks). The modems kick off a bit of heat, > too. On the other hand, it's very easy to debug, and is a relatively > inexpensive per-port solution to the problem. We are doing the exact same thing. I think they are cooler looking with a big old transformer do it all. > It's quite impressive to see a telco demarc for 1200 analog lines. That I would like to see, but I will stick with all the fiber lines. -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 14:41:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15857 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from smyrno.sol.net (smyrno.sol.net [206.55.64.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15784; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from solaria.sol.net (solaria.sol.net [206.55.65.75]) by smyrno.sol.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA27373; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:40:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by solaria.sol.net (8.5/8.5) id QAA19919; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:40:43 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199703242240.QAA19919@solaria.sol.net> Subject: Re: reliable modems? To: stefan@exis.net (Stefan Molnar) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 97 16:40:41 CST Cc: spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Molnar" at Mar 24, 97 05:23:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm sitting about 30 meters from a room where there are TWELVE HUNDRED > > Courier modems. A local ISP used a bit of creativity and developed a > > nifty way to set up arrays of 120 Courier modems, complete with phone, > > power, and network wiring for the four Portmasters on each array. > > > It's a bit scary to see 120 modems all powered by a single step-down > > transformer (10 identical racks). The modems kick off a bit of heat, > > too. On the other hand, it's very easy to debug, and is a relatively > > inexpensive per-port solution to the problem. > > We are doing the exact same thing. I think they are cooler looking with > a big old transformer do it all. More chance for carnage if anything goes wrong, though. :-) > > It's quite impressive to see a telco demarc for 1200 analog lines. > > That I would like to see, but I will stick with all the fiber lines. You need copper for standard Couriers. (However, the local telco long ago gave up trying to provide copper, they buried a LiteSpan 2000 in the back room... so there's only 50 feet of copper between the modems and telco equipment). ... JG From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 15:28:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18975 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18958; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA07149; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:16:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:16:14 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Joe Greco cc: spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reliable modems? In-Reply-To: <199703242240.QAA19919@solaria.sol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > More chance for carnage if anything goes wrong, though. :-) True, not they have not yet. !%> > You need copper for standard Couriers. (However, the local telco long > ago gave up trying to provide copper, they buried a LiteSpan 2000 in the > back room... so there's only 50 feet of copper between the modems and > telco equipment). I know, Ma bell tossed in a LiteSpan as well, but the ringer moduals can overload. That hurts. But all the fiber for the longhauls are fun to look at. Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 18:32:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01483 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01465; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA16496 ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA07728; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:22:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:22:24 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: Joe Greco , spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reliable modems? In-Reply-To: <199703250114.UAA06420@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Of course going through all those extra CODECs in the Lightspan/SLIC sort > of defeats most of the benifits of having all that fancy digital transmission > hardware. You're gonna need digital facilities at the ISP end to > have any chance at all at having any of the 56K modem stuff work. I never said that the PRI lines go threw the Lightspan, that is the realm of the other racks Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 24 18:34:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02023 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01981; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA16386 ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06420; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:14:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703250114.UAA06420@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Stefan Molnar cc: Joe Greco , spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: reliable modems? References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:16:14 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:14:32 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You need copper for standard Couriers. (However, the local telco long > > ago gave up trying to provide copper, they buried a LiteSpan 2000 in the > > back room... so there's only 50 feet of copper between the modems and > > telco equipment). > > I know, Ma bell tossed in a LiteSpan as well, but the ringer moduals can > overload. That hurts. But all the fiber for the longhauls are fun to > look at. Of course going through all those extra CODECs in the Lightspan/SLIC sort of defeats most of the benifits of having all that fancy digital transmission hardware. You're gonna need digital facilities at the ISP end to have any chance at all at having any of the 56K modem stuff work. louie From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 08:28:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21475 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from agisgate.agis.net (agisgate.agis.net [205.137.48.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21420; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio (ops1.agis.net [205.137.48.54]) by agisgate.agis.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13429; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:28:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970325112849.009976d0@agisgate.agis.net> X-Sender: markl@agisgate.agis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:28:50 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark E Larson Subject: 100baseT Ethernet cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have suggestions for 100baseT cards. I need to run 2 cards per server. the new DEC DC21041 chips don't work at all and the Intel 100b's won't work with 2 cards in the machine (works fine with one). Any suggestions? Thanx Mark E Larson ################################################################### A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S ################################################################### Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 09:54:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27144 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27083; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA11386; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199703251752.JAA11386@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: 100baseT Ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970325112849.009976d0@agisgate.agis.net> from Mark E Larson at "Mar 25, 97 11:28:50 am" To: markl@agis.net (Mark E Larson) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Does anyone have suggestions for 100baseT cards. I need to run 2 cards per > server. the new DEC DC21041 chips don't work at all and the Intel 100b's > won't work with 2 cards in the machine (works fine with one). > > Any suggestions? > The DC21041 is a 10Mb/s chip, and works just fine when using the Kingston cards: de0 rev 17 int a irq 12 on pci0:10 de0: DC21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:c0:f0:04:2c:d4 For 100Mb/s operation you want a DC21140 chip, and I am currently recommending the SMC9332BDT which has had support added for this specific card to FreeBSD 2.1.7, 2.2 and 3.0. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 12:32:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06961 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from agisgate.agis.net (agisgate.agis.net [205.137.48.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06924; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio (ops1.agis.net [205.137.48.54]) by agisgate.agis.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18730; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:32:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970325153319.00fdd340@agisgate.agis.net> X-Sender: markl@agisgate.agis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:33:19 -0500 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" From: Mark E Larson Subject: Re: 100baseT Ethernet cards Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes I did misspeak here. The new dec21140-B chips do not work. I have plenty of servers in production with the 21140-A chips. At 09:52 AM 3/25/97 -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> >> Does anyone have suggestions for 100baseT cards. I need to run 2 cards per >> server. the new DEC DC21041 chips don't work at all and the Intel 100b's >> won't work with 2 cards in the machine (works fine with one). >> >> Any suggestions? >> > >The DC21041 is a 10Mb/s chip, and works just fine when using the Kingston >cards: >de0 rev 17 int a irq 12 on pci0:10 >de0: DC21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 Ethernet address 00:c0:f0:04:2c:d4 > >For 100Mb/s operation you want a DC21140 chip, and I am currently recommending >the SMC9332BDT which has had support added for this specific card to >FreeBSD 2.1.7, 2.2 and 3.0. > >-- >Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com >Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD > > ################################################################### A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S ################################################################### Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 12:44:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07911 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07876; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA06643; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:45:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252045.MAA06643@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark E Larson cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 100baseT Ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:28:50 EST." <3.0.32.19970325112849.009976d0@agisgate.agis.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:45:31 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >... and the Intel 100b's >won't work with 2 cards in the machine (works fine with one). Huh? This is the first report I've heard of this. Which version of FreeBSD is this with, and what do you mean by "doesn't work"? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 17:26:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29678 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from agisgate.agis.net (agisgate.agis.net [205.137.48.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29634; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio (ops1.agis.net [205.137.48.54]) by agisgate.agis.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24160; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:26:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970325202649.00b05320@agisgate.agis.net> X-Sender: markl@agisgate.agis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:26:50 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark E Larson Subject: intel 100b warning message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy again! Ok, I have FreeBSD 2.2.1 running with 2 Intel 100B cards. They seem to be running good. However I get a warning message on boot up for both cards. /kernel: fxp0: warning: unsupported PHY, type=1, addr=1 and of course the same message for fxp1 Just need to know what this is, and if it will hose me down when in production. Thanx Markl ################################################################### A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S ################################################################### Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 21:37:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA17048 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17006; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA10060; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:38:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260538.VAA10060@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark E Larson cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: intel 100b warning message In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:26:50 EST." <3.0.32.19970325202649.00b05320@agisgate.agis.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:38:55 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ok, I have FreeBSD 2.2.1 running with 2 Intel 100B cards. They seem to be >running good. Hmmm...didn't you just say that two cards didn't work? Or are you saying that it works in the newer version of FreeBSD? > However I get a warning message on boot up for both cards. > >/kernel: fxp0: warning: unsupported PHY, type=1, addr=1 > >and of course the same message for fxp1 > >Just need to know what this is, and if it will hose me down when in >production. It's a new message I added to tell me when people had unusual cards where the PHY (The PHYsical layer chip) is not a National DP83840. In this case, the card should still work, but it might not work in full duplex mode and you won't be able to force 10/100 or half/full (which requires PHY diddling). "type=1" above tells me that the PHY is an 82553 (made by Intel). I didn't know that Intel made any Pro/100B's with that (all of the ones I have here have National DP83840's). Can you tell me about how old the card is? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Mar 25 22:14:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19105 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mixcom.mixcom.com (mixcom.mixcom.com [198.137.186.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19096; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mixcom.mixcom.com (8.6.12/2.2) id AAA23046; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:13:37 -0600 Received: from p75.mixcom.com(198.137.186.25) by mixcom.mixcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023033; Wed Mar 26 06:13:34 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326000624.00c56938@mixcom.com> X-Sender: sysop@mixcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:06:25 -0600 To: Stefan Molnar From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: reliable modems? Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joe Greco , spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:22 PM 3/24/97 -0500, Stefan Molnar wrote: > >> Of course going through all those extra CODECs in the Lightspan/SLIC sort >> of defeats most of the benifits of having all that fancy digital transmission >> hardware. You're gonna need digital facilities at the ISP end to >> have any chance at all at having any of the 56K modem stuff work. > >I never said that the PRI lines go threw the Lightspan, that is the realm >of the other racks Not sure you sent the original, but and D-A conversion before the line goes analog to the customer will render 56K analog null and void. ------------------------------------------- Jeff Mountin - System/Network Administrator jeff@mixcom.net MIX Communications Serving the Internet since 1990 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 02:18:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA01159 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01153 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from robkaos.ruhr.de (admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id KAA11201 for freebsd.org!freebsd-hardware; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:48:41 +0100 (MET) Received: by robkaos.ruhr.de (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.1) id ; Tue, 25 Mar 97 22:22 MET Message-Id: From: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de (Robert Schien) Subject: Slow 'worldstone' performance on a P6 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:22:44 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 'make world' takes 2 hours and 50 minutes on my P6 system. (P6NP5 mb with 64 MB EDO, SC-200 HA, 2 Conner 2105S hard drives, /usr/src and /usr/obj are on different drives, TMP on a Conner 850 MB IDE drive (is this the bottleneck?)) The system is FreeBSD-current (last Saturday). I find this quite slow. I think it should take about 100 minutes? Robert From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 04:54:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA07179 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07174 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA25077; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from wck-ca9-25.ix.netcom.com(204.31.231.121) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma025069; Wed Mar 26 06:54:01 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) id EAA10369; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:53:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:53:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703261253.EAA10369@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de) Subject: Re: Slow 'worldstone' performance on a P6 From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * 'make world' takes 2 hours and 50 minutes on my P6 system. What clock speed? :) * (P6NP5 mb with 64 MB EDO, SC-200 HA, 2 Conner 2105S hard drives, It takes 2 hours and 10 minutes on my P6-200 (256K) system with 96MB non-EDO RAM, Quantam Atlas I + II and 53c825. Oh, and the system is 2.2. * /usr/src and /usr/obj are on different drives, TMP on a Conner * 850 MB IDE drive (is this the bottleneck?)) * The system is FreeBSD-current (last Saturday). * I find this quite slow. I think it should take about 100 minutes? Not really. It depends on your compile options too. Mine is "-O2 -pipe", which means the compiler is taking more time optimizing (I remember it was like 20 minutes faster with "-O") and is not writing anything to /tmp. Also, I don't think having /usr/src and /usr/obj on different drives help unless they are both on small partitions and physically located near the other places on the disk that get accessed during the build (swap, root FS, etc.). If your /usr/src and /usr/obj are both on big partitions that span the entire disk (like mine), your average disk seek latency won't improve by having two disks (unless you run parallel makes or something). I guess I should try putting them both on the same disk and see what happens. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 06:39:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11839 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from agisgate.agis.net (agisgate.agis.net [205.137.48.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11796; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio (ops1.agis.net [205.137.48.54]) by agisgate.agis.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06619; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:39:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326094026.0102bc20@agisgate.agis.net> X-Sender: markl@agisgate.agis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:40:26 -0500 To: dg@root.com From: Mark E Larson Subject: Re: intel 100b warning message Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 09:38 PM 3/25/97 -0800, David Greenman wrote: >>Ok, I have FreeBSD 2.2.1 running with 2 Intel 100B cards. They seem to be >>running good. > > Hmmm...didn't you just say that two cards didn't work? Or are you saying >that it works in the newer version of FreeBSD? > Yea. I got them to work with 2.2.1 but not with 2.1.5 >> However I get a warning message on boot up for both cards. >> >>/kernel: fxp0: warning: unsupported PHY, type=1, addr=1 >> >>and of course the same message for fxp1 >> >>Just need to know what this is, and if it will hose me down when in >>production. > > It's a new message I added to tell me when people had unusual cards where >the PHY (The PHYsical layer chip) is not a National DP83840. In this case, >the card should still work, but it might not work in full duplex mode and you >won't be able to force 10/100 or half/full (which requires PHY diddling). >"type=1" above tells me that the PHY is an 82553 (made by Intel). I didn't >know that Intel made any Pro/100B's with that (all of the ones I have here >have National DP83840's). Can you tell me about how old the card is? > The cards are brand new. Just got them in last week. >-DG > >David Greenman >Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > > ################################################################### A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S ################################################################### Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 07:26:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15537 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from anacreon.sol.net (anacreon.sol.net [206.55.64.116]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15516; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from solaria.sol.net (solaria.sol.net [206.55.65.75]) by anacreon.sol.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA28200; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:26:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by solaria.sol.net (8.5/8.5) id JAA06807; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:26:29 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199703261526.JAA06807@solaria.sol.net> Subject: Re: reliable modems? To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 97 9:26:27 CST Cc: stefan@exis.net, spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199703250114.UAA06420@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at Mar 24, 97 08:14:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Of course going through all those extra CODECs in the Lightspan/SLIC sort > of defeats most of the benifits of having all that fancy digital transmission > hardware. You're gonna need digital facilities at the ISP end to > have any chance at all at having any of the 56K modem stuff work. Not everyone is interested in 56K support (the LiteSpan has T1 cards available, in any case). ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 07:38:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16597 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from agisgate.agis.net (agisgate.agis.net [205.137.48.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16544; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from radio (ops1.agis.net [205.137.48.54]) by agisgate.agis.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA07908; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:38:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970326103905.00a742c0@agisgate.agis.net> X-Sender: markl@agisgate.agis.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:39:06 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark E Larson Subject: Extended memory in 2.2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy! Ok. I tried adding this line in the 2.2.1 kernel options "maxmem=1024*384" To reconize 384M of RAM. This worked under 2.1.5, but in 2.2.1 upon boot up the kernel says "memory bounce rebooting in 15 secs" So the question here is How do I specify the extra memory in 2.2.1 Thanx ################################################################### A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S ################################################################### Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 07:38:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16735 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16710; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA17785; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:40:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:40:03 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Joe Greco , spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reliable modems? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970326000624.00c56938@mixcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Not sure you sent the original, but and D-A conversion before the line goes > analog to the customer will render 56K analog null and void. I am well aware of that. And I did not bring up 56k in this thread. The PRI lines are for the PM3s that have the ablity to do so the 56k junk on our side. The rest is upto bell and gte. Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 08:02:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18953 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18895; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA17826; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:49:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:49:04 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Joe Greco cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , spork@super-g.com, richard@pegasus.com, freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reliable modems? In-Reply-To: <199703261526.JAA06807@solaria.sol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Not everyone is interested in 56K support (the LiteSpan has T1 cards > available, in any case). We had that, but with much complaining bell brought in a fugitsu rack just for the T1s and PRIs. Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 08:06:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19323 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19298; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA08792; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:04:47 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:04:46 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Mark E Larson cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extended memory in 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970326103905.00a742c0@agisgate.agis.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Mark E Larson wrote: > > Howdy! > > Ok. I tried adding this line in the 2.2.1 kernel > > options "maxmem=1024*384" > > To reconize 384M of RAM. This worked under 2.1.5, but in 2.2.1 upon boot > up the kernel says "memory bounce rebooting in 15 secs" First, kernel options are case sensitive, so it should read MAXMEM. Also you may have better luck by not letting it do the math, and simply giving: options "MAXMEM=383216" > > So the question here is How do I specify the extra memory in 2.2.1 > > Thanx > > ################################################################### > A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S > ################################################################### > Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net > News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net > Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net > > Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net > Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nadav From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 10:06:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02672 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from renoir.cftnet.com (renoir.cftnet.com [163.125.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02637; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (gambert@localhost) by renoir.cftnet.com (8.8.0/8.6.4) id NAA02808; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:06:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Allen W. Gambert" X-Sender: gambert@renoir.cftnet.com To: Mark E Larson cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extended memory in 2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970326103905.00a742c0@agisgate.agis.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, I noticed this same thing. When I tried options MAXMEM="256*1024" I got the same thing. I kept tring to reduce it; I cant remember what I was able to get it down to, but when it did finally boot the machine would lockup after awhile. I than kept tring to reduce it and it finally stabilized at options MAXMEM="128*1024" I have not had the time to determine where the problem lies. Anybody else have any comments? Currently my system is a Pentium Pro 150Mhz with an adaptec 3940UW PCI scsi controller with a 9Gig drive. Now that the system is stable it smokes. Good luck, Allen On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Mark E Larson wrote: > > Howdy! > > Ok. I tried adding this line in the 2.2.1 kernel > > options "maxmem=1024*384" > > To reconize 384M of RAM. This worked under 2.1.5, but in 2.2.1 upon boot > up the kernel says "memory bounce rebooting in 15 secs" > > So the question here is How do I specify the extra memory in 2.2.1 > > Thanx > > ################################################################### > A P E X G L O B A L I N F O R M A T I O N S E R V I C E S > ################################################################### > Network Operations Center 313-730-5151 noc@agis.net > News Administration 313-730-5151 news@agis.net > Business Office/Sales 313-730-1130 sales@agis.net > > Visit our Web Page: http://www.agis.net > Network News Information: http://agisgate.agis.net/netnews/netnews.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Don't throw a HSSI...and drop that ethernet!" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Allen W. Gambert (813)980-1317 CFTnet Operation Center gambert@cftnet.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 12:49:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23567 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (root@gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23556; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.8.5/8.8.2) id VAA15788; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:49:28 +0100 (MET) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199703262049.VAA15788@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Netserver E30 or E40 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:49:28 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone fo you using the E30 netserver of HP? What are the experiences with it? -Guido From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 17:32:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20547 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20478; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA16926; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:33:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703270133.RAA16926@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark E Larson cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extended memory in 2.2.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:39:06 EST." <3.0.32.19970326103905.00a742c0@agisgate.agis.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:33:45 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Howdy! > >Ok. I tried adding this line in the 2.2.1 kernel > >options "maxmem=1024*384" > >To reconize 384M of RAM. This worked under 2.1.5, but in 2.2.1 upon boot >up the kernel says "memory bounce rebooting in 15 secs" Please provide the EXACT kernel message. I can't help you without that. I see that people have already pointed out that the above should be: options "MAXMEM=393216" ...as the arithmetic may not work as intended. Be sure the kernel reports the proper amount of memory in the startup message. Also, it is not necessary to send messages like this to multiple mailing lists. hackers or questions would have been sufficient. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Mar 26 21:15:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04943 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04927 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA13909; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:09:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:09:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: Satoshi Asami cc: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow 'worldstone' performance on a P6 In-Reply-To: <199703261253.EAA10369@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Not really. It depends on your compile options too. Mine is "-O2 > -pipe", which means the compiler is taking more time optimizing (I > remember it was like 20 minutes faster with "-O") and is not writing > anything to /tmp. FWIW, it takes my *first* generation PPro 150 (from Digital) 2 hours and 34 minutes for a make world (-O2, -pipe) on a slow 5400RPM SCSI2 Seagate drive... > > Also, I don't think having /usr/src and /usr/obj on different drives > help unless they are both on small partitions and physically located > near the other places on the disk that get accessed during the build > (swap, root FS, etc.). > Actually, I got a bit better time by splitting up /usr/src and /usr/obj -> down to 2:18 from 2:35. But like you said, not much of an improvement. I'm sure a single kick-ass SCSI-3 would be significantly faster... -Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com RingZero Comp. http://vinyl.quickweb.com/mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GCS/O d- s+ a-- C++ UB+++$ P+ L- E--- W++ N+ K- w++(---) O- M- !V PS+ PE Y++ PGP+ t !5 X+ R- tv b++ DI+ D++ G+ e+(*) h--- r++ y+(+++) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Typically, I don't use JAVA -- I think that strong typing is for weak minds (and lazy compiler/interpreter writers)." -- Terry Lambert From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 28 18:07:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24351 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from squirrel.tgsoft.com (squirrel.tgsoft.com [207.167.64.183]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24322; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thompson@localhost) by squirrel.tgsoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07966; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:02:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:02:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703290202.SAA07966@squirrel.tgsoft.com> From: mark thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.com Subject: omnibook 4000 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am thinking of buying an omnibook 4000. Reviewing -bugs shows that Phil Karn had fatal problems running 2.2-SNAP-about-august. Private mail from him says he gave up and went to L***x. Is this where things were left? Would i be making a big mistake getting one of these? -mark From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Mar 28 23:56:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15291 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.32.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA15271; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta3) id QAA23837; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:54:33 +0900 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:54:33 +0900 Message-Id: <199703290754.QAA23837@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: thompson@tgsoft.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.com, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: omnibook 4000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:02:33 -0800 (PST)". <199703290202.SAA07966@squirrel.tgsoft.com> From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199703290202.SAA07966@squirrel.tgsoft.com> thompson@tgsoft.com writes: >> I am thinking of buying an omnibook 4000. Reviewing -bugs shows that >> Phil Karn had fatal problems running 2.2-SNAP-about-august. Private mail >> from him says he gave up and went to L***x. >> >> Is this where things were left? Would i be making a big mistake getting >> one of these? I think that kern/2277 kern/3066 kern/3107 (mine) can be the problem of NPX optimizaion I reported on -hackers yesterday. Please test flags npx0 0x01 from UserConfig CLI mode. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Mar 29 09:32:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03907 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03898 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA21680 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:32:03 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA17323 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:31:37 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id QAA16362; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:35:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970329163534.16575@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:35:34 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow 'worldstone' performance on a P6 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67 In-Reply-To: ; from Robert Schien on Tue, Mar 25, 1997 at 10:22:44PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3153 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Robert Schien: 'make world' takes 2 hours and 50 minutes on my P6 system. > (P6NP5 mb with 64 MB EDO, SC-200 HA, 2 Conner 2105S hard drives, > /usr/src and /usr/obj are on different drives, TMP on a Conner I'm surprised. My P6/180 at work (64 MB RAM, 256 KB cache, HP XU system with an Adaptec 7880 on board) with 2 7200 rpm SCSI2 drives (/usr/src is on one drive and /usr/obj on another) with "-O -pipe" took 1h20 to complete make world... No profiled libs and NOCLEAN defined (it was the first make world). My 486DX4/100 takes 4h50 in similar conditions (although there are 2 SCSI controllers and each disk is on a separate controller). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #41: Sun Mar 23 23:01:22 CET 1997