From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 10:07:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19088 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.orion.ab.ca (orion.ab.ca [207.245.27.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19079; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (timp@localhost) by centaur.orion.ab.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA23847; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:24:37 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:24:28 +0000 () From: Tim Pushor To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Experience with multiport serial cards? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have searched the mailing lists for people who have good things to say about multiport serial cards. So far, it seems that the Cyclades is probably the best way to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Does it work well? I mean, support full modem control, run at full speed (56K) with all ports active, etc. 2) I have a small dial-in user base being serviced with the two com ports and a pair of modems now, and can't envision needing more than 8 ports. Would the Cyclades 8Yo (ISA) do, or should I consider the 8Zo? The box I am dialing into does much more than service remote users, so CPU utilization and number of interrupts are important to me. Thanks for any and all help, Tim --- Tim Pushor Orion Technologies Inc. Technical Director Phone: (403) 284-0042 timp@orion.ab.ca support@orion.ab.ca http://www.orion.ab.ca/~timp http://www.orion.ab.ca "communication leadership through innovation" From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 14:37:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00697 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00661 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id XAA18838; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:16:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) id WAA11445; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:41:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970427224121.43206@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:41:21 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" Cc: Steve Passe , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP question. References: <199704161654.KAA17607@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Sergey S. Kosyakov on Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 09:37:06AM +0400 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > how FreeBSD supports SMP ? Is it internal kernel support ? Or should I install > some additional software to support SMP on user applications level ? > I can't find any informaton about SMP in FAQs and others docs. http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html BTW, the SMP code is now merged into FreeBSD-current (3.0). My machine runs now like hell. And it's pretty stable. I'm doing make world's and now a make release and am doing benchmarks (all in parallel). And the machine isn't going down ... Most of the time (during cvs checkout and make installs) the machine is damn idle ;-) last pid: 11106; load averages: 0.22, 0.55, 0.55 22:40:43 78 processes: 2 running, 76 sleeping CPU states: 1.0% user, 0.0% nice, 9.1% system, 0.5% interrupt, 89.4% idle Mem: 19M Active, 10M Inact, 17M Wired, 15M Cache, 7601K Buf, 668K Free Swap: 192M Total, 55M Used, 137M Free, 29% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 771 root -6 0 868K 660K biowai1 0:51 1.11% 1.11% cvs 11026 root 10 0 376K 664K wait 1 0:00 0.78% 0.04% gmake 598 andreas 18 0 204K 228K pause 0 0:54 0.04% 0.04% ascloc 11001 root 10 0 388K 652K wait 1 0:00 0.27% 0.04% make 11008 root 10 0 372K 636K wait 1 0:00 0.27% 0.04% gmake 11025 root 10 0 488K 228K wait 0 0:00 0.78% 0.04% sh 276 andreas 2 0 7260K 8300K select1 19:11 0.04% 0.04% XF86_S 14764 andreas 2 0 572K 808K select0 0:06 0.04% 0.04% xterm 216 root 92 0 512K 220K CPU0 1 0:12 0.00% 0.00% sh 2200 andreas 28 0 344K 364K CPU1 1 0:51 0.00% 0.00% top Andreas /// -- ///// powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD ///// From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 20:01:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15355 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15350 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA14313; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:31:05 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199704280301.MAA14313@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: sun type 5 keyboards (dream mode on) In-Reply-To: <199704280122.UAA08525@ksu.edu> from Joe Diehl at "Apr 27, 97 08:21:17 pm" To: joed@ksu.edu (Joe Diehl) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:31:05 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Diehl stands accused of saying: > > Okay, I'll admit my dream mode is on here... But I just got a new keyboard > at work and it reminds me just how much I like these things. > > I realize that at a technical level the sun type 5 keyboards work > differantly than a regular PC keyboard, which would make this task easier > said than done, but... What would it take to try to get a sun type 5 > keyboard and mouse working on a FreeBSD workstation? This was raised just a little while back. I believe someone might even be working on it. > I'm assuming this would be a best classified as a hack, and might be looking > at modification to the bootblocks and the kernel, as well as finding some > method of running the keyboard through the serial port... Unless of course > for some odd reason the keyboard port on a p/c can actually handle a > sun keyboard (but I'm kind of thinking it won't). No. Go look at the NetBSD/sparc port for more details, but basically you will need an RS-232 level converter, two serial ports and a source of power. Then you will have to write your own keyboard and mouse driver. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 22:24:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23093 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23086 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyang (teapot.Stanford.EDU [36.182.0.31]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/L) with SMTP id WAA16254 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33643473.636F@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:25:11 -0700 From: Frank Yang Reply-To: fyang@leland.Stanford.EDU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel EtherExpress 16 driver instability? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Before I upgraded my computer from 486 to Pentium MMX, my EtherExpress 16 network card worked fine with FreeBSD. On the Pentium machine, I kept getting unpredictable timeouts on remote connections. After awhile (when there are too many timeouts...I think), the connection would be terminated and the card would function no longer. If I tried to ping a remote machine after I lost a connection, I would get a message saying no (send) buffers available. I could re-establish the network if I do ifconfig "down" and then "up". Is this a knwon problem because the release notes mentioned that the network card is not recommended due to driver instability? Is there anything I could do to fix the problem? P.S. The last version I had on my 486 was 2.2.1-GAMMA. But I'm using 2.2.1-RELEASE version on my Pentium machine. Thanks, Frank Yang From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 22:42:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23941 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de [160.45.24.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23928 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Mon, 28 Apr 97 07:42 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org id ; Mon, 28 Apr 97 07:42 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26803; Sun, 27 Apr 97 18:10:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 18:10:11 +0200 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9704271610.AA26803@wavehh.hanse.de> To: asami@vader.CS.BErkeley.EDU Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building an NFS server Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.hardware References: <199704252011.NAA16660@root.com> <199704260915.CAA02373@blimp.mimi.com> Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * I wouldn't characterize the load on wcarchive as "light", and I haven't > * had any problems with the driver since Justin's recent fixes. It's been > * completely stable. >I'll be more than glad to be corrected. Hey, are there any NFS >servers using ahc out there? If you can post success/failure stories, >it will be great. >Satoshi I'm using several 2940-connected ccd-drives in a heavily loaded machine (not NFS, though) and had problems from somewhere after 2.2BETA until a few days agon in 2.2-STABLE. The NCR driver in NetBSD-1.2 failed for me a number of times, don't know how close it is to FreeBSD. It seems the adaptec driver is better when you happen to get the right version (avoid releases ;-), while the integral of good state over time is better for the NCR. BTW, I'm now having problems with a 1542-baded machine under heavy load, too. Ran completely stable under 960801-SNAP and 2.2BETA, but now (2.2 until 2.2-STABLE of a few days ago) permanently destroys its filesystems under load. I'm pretty sure its not hardware. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin_Cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de http://cracauer.cons.org Fax.: +4940 5228536 "As far as I'm concerned, if something is so complicated that you can't ex- plain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not worth knowing anyway"- Calvin From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 27 23:20:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA25622 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cache.lib.itb.ac.id. (root@cache.lib.ITB.ac.id [167.205.57.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25608 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberlib.itb.ac.id. (cyberlib.ITB.ac.id [167.205.57.97]) by cache.lib.itb.ac.id. (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07301 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:20:29 GMT Received: from CYBERLIB/MAILQ by cyberlib.itb.ac.id. (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 28 Apr 97 13:21:14 +0700 Received: from MAILQ by CYBERLIB (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 28 Apr 97 13:20:57 +0700 From: "Andi Wijaya" Organization: Computer Center ITB To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:20:56 +07 Subject: X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <1DCBD2314@cyberlib.itb.ac.id.> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 02:18:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA03289 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 02:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA03284 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 02:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vodka.sublink.org by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0wLma2-0009EWC; Mon, 28 Apr 97 02:18 PDT Received: from nameron by vodka.sublink.org with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0wLmYx-001bhYC; Mon, 28 Apr 97 11:17 MET DST Received: from hp-dyno.smd by nameron.smd.sublink.org with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #17) id m0wKWoQ-0008EaC; Fri, 25 Apr 97 00:16 MET DST Received: by hp-dyno.smd (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0wKXk1-000JL7C; Fri, 25 Apr 97 00:15 MET Received: from luppolo.lpds.sublink.org (luppolo.lpds.sublink.org [192.9.200.50]) by radikkio.lpds.sublink.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA01828 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:48:31 +0200 Received: (from wcp@localhost) by luppolo.lpds.sublink.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA00415; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:48:36 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 23:48:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199704232148.XAA00415@luppolo.lpds.sublink.org> From: wcp@luppolo.lpds.sublink.org (Walter C. Pelissero) X-Attribution: WcP To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: old motherboard don't run FreeBSD Reply-to: wcp@lpds.sublink.org Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.5. Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Today I tried to install FreeBSD 2.1 (local reseller still don't have the 2.2.1) on a old Ti 486/40. All went well. When I try to bootstrap from hard disk it shows the boot prompt and then reports a "Read error". If I move that hard disk to a Pentium or newer 486/133 machine it works as it should. I made a try with a FreeBSD 2.0 boot floppy but that time the "Read error" message comes up immediately bootstrapping from floppy disk. I found the that the "Read error" message is printed by /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/start.S but nothing more. What can I do to make this old motherboard accept FreeBSD? Any help will be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 03:06:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05130 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 03:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.acucobol.ie (gatekeeper.acucobol.ie [194.125.135.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05096; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 03:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by gatekeeper.acucobol.ie (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08666; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:05:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from guinness.acucobol.ie(194.125.135.195) by gatekeeper.acucobol.ie via smap (V2.0beta) id xma008457; Mon, 28 Apr 97 11:05:01 +0100 Received: from guinness (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by guinness.acucobol.ie (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27919; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:05:47 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199704281005.LAA27919@guinness.acucobol.ie> From: "John McLaughlin" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: bash 1.14.7 Sig 11 on FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELENG Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:05:47 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Not sure if this belongs on hardware, but it did involve a sig 11, so... Basically, bash dumped core on the above when just installed from the standard 2.2 packages, which haven't been updated for the snap (or hadn't last Friday anyway). Pulling over the source and recompiling made the problem go away, and a kernel compile worked fine, which leads me to suspect the packages may need recompiling. The hardware is: ExpertBoard i430VX motherboard 16Mb EDO RAM Tekram 390F SCSI adaptor 2.1 Gb Quantum Fireball Genius NE2000 compatible network card. Which has worked fine in a number of other machines that I've configured Has anybody else come across this problem with bash or any of the other packages, or does it sound more like bas SIMMs? Could anyone suggest a means of testing the RAM to some *reasonable* extent? Regards, From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 06:45:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14541 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14536 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 06:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA01428; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:45:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704281345.HAA01428@pluto.plutotech.com> To: fyang@leland.Stanford.EDU cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress 16 driver instability? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:25:11 PDT." <33643473.636F@leland.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:43:50 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is there anything I could do to fix the problem? Try upgrading to 2.2-stable or the latest snapshot from releng22.FreeBSD.org. You will need to use the "ie" driver instead of the ix driver to access your card when you upgrade. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 07:45:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA17317 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17297; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.8.4+2.7Wbeta4/3.5Wpl3) with ESMTP id XAA25364; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:44:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (mFjtzcGPNvX2VVhpnqHHdmTjykiIvOkj@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.33.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.8.4+2.7Wbeta4/3.5Wpl3) with ESMTP id XAA17263; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:44:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.33.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id XAA16419; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:49:06 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199704281449.XAA16419@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "John McLaughlin" cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: bash 1.14.7 Sig 11 on FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELENG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:05:47 +0100." <199704281005.LAA27919@guinness.acucobol.ie> References: <199704281005.LAA27919@guinness.acucobol.ie> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:49:05 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Basically, bash dumped core on the above when just installed >from the standard 2.2 packages, which haven't been updated for the >snap (or hadn't last Friday anyway). Pulling over the source and >recompiling made the problem go away, and a kernel compile worked >fine, which leads me to suspect the packages may need recompiling. > > The hardware is: > > ExpertBoard i430VX motherboard > 16Mb EDO RAM > Tekram 390F SCSI adaptor > 2.1 Gb Quantum Fireball > Genius NE2000 compatible network card. > > Which has worked fine in a number of other machines that I've >configured > > Has anybody else come across this problem with bash or any of >the other packages, or does it sound more like bas SIMMs? Could anyone >suggest a means of testing the RAM to some *reasonable* extent? Is your CPU sufficiently cooled by a fan? I once had a bad CPU cooler (fan) with which my CPU (Pentium 120Mhz) caused sig 11 from time to time under heavy load such as `make world'. Once the CPU is cooled down the problem went away; which made me take quite a while to diagnose the cause. Kazu From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 08:46:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20480 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20475 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@Phoenix.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org [205.179.79.65] by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.59 #1) id 0wLsd1-0003pL-00; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:46:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA09041; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:45:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: sun type 5 keyboards (dream mode on) To: Michael Smith cc: Joe Diehl , hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199704280301.MAA14313@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Okay, I'll admit my dream mode is on here... But I just got a new > > keyboard at work and it reminds me just how much I like these things. Personally, I preferred the type 4; but the type 5 (unix) layout is still better than the standard PC keyboards. > > I realize that at a technical level the sun type 5 keyboards work > > differantly than a regular PC keyboard, which would make this task easier > > said than done, but... What would it take to try to get a sun type 5 > > keyboard and mouse working on a FreeBSD workstation? A couple of keyboard companies make PC keyboards with the Sun type 5 layout. Unfortunately, I don't remember off hand which ones. But you should be able to find them if you dig through catalogs and grovel around the Web a bit. I'd start in the Yahoo Computing/Hardware page. You might also check the SunExpress Web page (you get to it through the Sun Web page.) -Pat From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 10:04:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24830 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.ssu.samara.ru (info.ssu.samara.ru [195.209.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24819 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icent (icent.ssu.samara.ru [195.209.65.5]) by info.ssu.samara.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25133 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:12:37 +0500 (KSD) Message-Id: <199704281712.WAA25133@info.ssu.samara.ru> Reply-To: From: "Peter Zhigulin" To: Subject: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:03:44 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good day! I've got a RocketPort/ISA and FreeBSD 2.2.1. But drivers from ftp.comtrol.com are for 2.1. And I do not understand how to modify or apply manualy patch coming with drivers. In other words, where can I read about how to integrate new device driver into FreeBSD kernel? P.S. I've got drivers from ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/BETA/B6547tar.gz The problem is: I cant figure where to put changes targeted to /sys/i386/i386/conf.c because I cant find this file :( Thanks in advance And please reply via e-mail too. -- zpit From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 11:04:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28196 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.lariat.org ([129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28166 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solo.lariat.org ([129.72.251.10]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14914; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970428120218.00713ca4@lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@lariat.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:02:18 -0600 To: zpit@samara.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-Reply-To: <88256487.00613F04.00@IWND1.infoworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Comtrol's driver is a beta, and it was written by amir@comtrol.com. It's not officially supported. We wanted to use a RocketPort -- in fact, several -- but did not and will not because Comtrol will make no guarantees that the driver will ever be supported. We want to move all of our machines to 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 (2.2.1-R has some bugs, but it looks as if they're getting fixed in the snaps), so that rules out Comtrol for us unless the drivers are updated. I'd recommend sending e-mail to amir@comtrol.com and info@comtrol.com. Please let everyone know what they say. I've urged Comtrol to have the driver integrated into the FreeBSD source tree, but when I checked they seemed utterly uninterested. --Brett Glass P.S. -- If Comtrol is willing to let the drivers be integrated into FreeBSD, and I can learn enough to update the drivers, I'd be glad volunteer; their hardware actually seems pretty solid. Right now, I'm *still* trying to learn enough about FreeBSD driver development to write even the simplest driver. There are virtually no docs on the semantics of some of the routines called within the kernel, and the kernel data structures are so poorly documented that I can only guess at their meaning. At 10:03 PM 4/28/97 +0100, zpit@samara.net wrote: >Good day! > >I've got a RocketPort/ISA and FreeBSD 2.2.1. But drivers from >ftp.comtrol.com >are for 2.1. And I do not understand how to modify or apply manualy patch >coming with drivers. In other words, where can I read about how to >integrate >new device driver into FreeBSD kernel? > >P.S. I've got drivers from ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/BETA/B6547tar.gz > The problem is: I cant figure where to put changes targeted > to /sys/i386/i386/conf.c because I cant find this file :( > > >Thanks in advance >And please reply via e-mail too. > >-- >zpit > > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 28 20:17:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19855 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.36.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19834 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from madrone.cs.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA21912 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: William Maddox Message-Id: <199704290316.UAA21912@madrone.CS.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sun type 5 keyboards (dream mode on) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:45:18 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:16:45 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A couple of keyboard companies make PC keyboards with the Sun type 5 > layout. Unfortunately, I don't remember off hand which ones. But > you should be able to find them if you dig through catalogs and grovel > around the Web a bit. I'd start in the Yahoo Computing/Hardware page. > You might also check the SunExpress Web page (you get to it through > the Sun Web page.) My most recent NuData Workstation Express catalog lists a "Sun/PC Universal Keyboard", no. DCA1905, for $140. It purports to "combine the best features of a Sun type 3, 4, and 5 with a PC 101 keyboard." The layout looks like the type 4 keyboard on my SparcII with the extra PC cursor keys. The keyboard is supposed to work on both PC's and Suns. Though it is not entirely clear, the keyboard is apparently "Sun native" and requires a $20 adapter cable for a PC/AT or PS/2 type connection. NuData: 1-800-844-5757 --Bill From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 20:18:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29052 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.ssu.samara.ru (info.ssu.samara.ru [195.209.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28995 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icent (icent.ssu.samara.ru [195.209.65.5]) by info.ssu.samara.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05699; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:26:27 +0500 (KSD) Message-Id: <199704300326.IAA05699@info.ssu.samara.ru> Reply-To: From: "Peter Zhigulin" To: , "Brett Glass" Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:16:25 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Comtrol's driver is a beta, and it was written by amir@comtrol.com. It's > not officially supported. We wanted to use a RocketPort -- in fact, several > -- but did not and will not because Comtrol will make no guarantees that > the driver will ever be supported. We want to move all of our machines to > 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 (2.2.1-R has some bugs, but it looks as if they're getting > fixed in the snaps), so that rules out Comtrol for us unless the drivers > are updated. > > I'd recommend sending e-mail to amir@comtrol.com and info@comtrol.com. > Please let everyone know what they say. G'day! I've did as you say and after I got your answer I started sending letter by letter to Amir Farah. And his mornig I've got an answer, telling me that there is updated driver for 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ at ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/BETA/B6547tar.gz There are two directories inside. For 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ So, who intersted in this driver could try it and report any bugs to Amir Farah . Hmmm. This driver supports RocketPort/PCI also :) -- zpit From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 20:23:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29444 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.lariat.org ([129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29432 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solo.lariat.org ([129.72.251.10]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03375; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:22:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970429212143.0071be24@lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@lariat.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:21:43 -0600 To: , From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199704300326.IAA05699@info.ssu.samara.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:16 AM 4/30/97 -0000, Peter Zhigulin wrote: >I've did as you say and after I got your answer I started sending letter by >letter >to Amir Farah. And his mornig I've got an answer, telling me that there is >updated >driver for 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ at ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/BETA/B6547tar.gz > >There are two directories inside. For 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ >So, who intersted in this driver could try it and report any bugs >to Amir Farah . Hmmm. This driver supports RocketPort/PCI >also :) This is good! It may be that official support is imminent. Perhaps Jordan should make an official request to Amir (amir@comtrol.com) to have the drivers included in the source tree. All that's really needed is willingness on Comtrol's part to put a Berkeley-style copyright on it. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 20:51:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01064 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01059 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA25449; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:21:45 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199704300351.NAA25449@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199704300326.IAA05699@info.ssu.samara.ru> from Peter Zhigulin at "Apr 30, 97 08:16:25 am" To: zpit@samara.net Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:21:45 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, brett@lariat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Zhigulin stands accused of saying: > > There are two directories inside. For 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ > So, who intersted in this driver could try it and report any bugs > to Amir Farah . Hmmm. This driver supports RocketPort/PCI > also :) Is there a committer with one of these cards? It seems criminal to have the driver languishing for want of someone to commit it, especially with an obviously enthusiastic maintainer. > zpit -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 21:38:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03415 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03410 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA23690; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:38:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Brett Glass cc: zpit@samara.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, amir@comtrol.com Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:21:43 MDT." <3.0.1.32.19970429212143.0071be24@lariat.org> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:38:12 -0700 Message-ID: <23688.862375092@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is good! It may be that official support is imminent. Perhaps Jordan > should make an official request to Amir (amir@comtrol.com) to have the > drivers included in the source tree. All that's really needed is > willingness on Comtrol's part to put a Berkeley-style copyright on it. I'd be happy to officially request it if Amir thinks this would help anything. If so, who should I request this of? :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 21:39:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03490 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03480 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA06632; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 14:39:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 14:39:38 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Brett Glass cc: zpit@samara.net, amir@comtrol.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970429212143.0071be24@lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Brett Glass wrote: > At 08:16 AM 4/30/97 -0000, Peter Zhigulin wrote: > > >I've did as you say and after I got your answer I started sending letter by > >letter > >to Amir Farah. And his mornig I've got an answer, telling me that there is > >updated > >driver for 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ at ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/BETA/B6547tar.gz > > > >There are two directories inside. For 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ > >So, who intersted in this driver could try it and report any bugs > >to Amir Farah . Hmmm. This driver supports RocketPort/PCI > >also :) > > This is good! It may be that official support is imminent. Perhaps Jordan > should make an official request to Amir (amir@comtrol.com) to have the > drivers included in the source tree. All that's really needed is > willingness on Comtrol's part to put a Berkeley-style copyright on it. It would be a very good start if Amir emailed Jordan and requested an official major number, instead of using mn 20. Danny From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 29 21:46:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04008 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03995 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA06668; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 14:46:34 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 14:46:33 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Michael Smith cc: zpit@samara.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, brett@lariat.org Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199704300351.NAA25449@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Peter Zhigulin stands accused of saying: > > > > There are two directories inside. For 2.1.5+ and 2.2+ > > So, who intersted in this driver could try it and report any bugs > > to Amir Farah . Hmmm. This driver supports RocketPort/PCI > > also :) > > Is there a committer with one of these cards? It seems criminal to have > the driver languishing for want of someone to commit it, especially > with an obviously enthusiastic maintainer. I have three customers who want to use them. But I don't have a card, and I don't understand device drivers :-( One customer is using one, and the kernel is not as stable as it might have been, but I have a feeling I *might* have the 2.2 and 2.1.7 drivers mixed up. I'm going to grab the latest 2.1.5 driver and rebuild Dale's kernel and see how it goes. Danny From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 30 05:59:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA24865 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA24860 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 05:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA27150; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:59:01 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma027148; Wed Apr 30 07:58:49 1997 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA22722; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:57:58 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost.lodgenet.com [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA09048; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:58:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704301258.HAA09048@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Michael Smith cc: zpit@samara.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, brett@lariat.org Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:21:45 +0930." <199704300351.NAA25449@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:58:44 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > >Is there a committer with one of these cards? It seems criminal to have >the driver languishing for want of someone to commit it, especially >with an obviously enthusiastic maintainer. I've got at least one ISA, no PCI, but I could probably get one. I've seen the things work on 2.2-CURRENT (back when it was) from about the middle of December. It's in a 3.0 machine now. Should I bite the bullet and figger out how to import a driver? >-- >]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ >]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ >]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ >]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ >]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ > eric. -- erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~erich erich@lodgenet.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 30 06:21:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA25740 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 06:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA25735 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA15061; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:20:42 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma015042; Wed Apr 30 08:20:24 1997 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA23010; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:19:27 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost.lodgenet.com [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA09394; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:20:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199704301320.IAA09394@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Brett Glass , zpit@samara.net, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, amir@comtrol.com Subject: Re: Comtrol RocketPort under 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:38:12 PDT." <23688.862375092@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 08:20:18 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> This is good! It may be that official support is imminent. Perhaps Jordan >> should make an official request to Amir (amir@comtrol.com) to have the >> drivers included in the source tree. All that's really needed is >> willingness on Comtrol's part to put a Berkeley-style copyright on it. > >I'd be happy to officially request it if Amir thinks this would help >anything. If so, who should I request this of? :) The salesman who's been after us is Mike Winkelman, , Sometimes getting a salesman behind your cause ain't all bad ;-) If he can convince mgmnt that he can sell more cards because of this driver... > > Jordan > > eric. -- erich@rrnet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~erich erich@lodgenet.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 1 14:18:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17769 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from george.lbl.gov (george-2.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17757 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.5) id OAA10970 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:15:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 14:15:34 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun[ITG]" Message-Id: <199705012115.OAA10970@george.lbl.gov> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: 53C875 UW SCSI-3 adapter Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Under both 2.1.7 and 2.2.1, the 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host adapter, made by J Bond Computer Systems (JDC5075), has the same performance as the 53C825, which is just a wide SCSI host adapter, about 18 MBytes/sec. The disk drive I used are Seagate BARRACUDA 9 (ST19171W) , which seagate claims that can go 40 MBytes in sychronous-transfer mode. Has someone experimented the throughput of 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host adapter with any wide or ultra-wide drives? -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 1 15:18:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21099 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@pluto100.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21094 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA22846; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705012217.QAA22846@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: "Jin Guojun[ITG]" cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 53C875 UW SCSI-3 adapter In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 May 1997 14:15:34 PDT." <199705012115.OAA10970@george.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:16:13 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Under both 2.1.7 and 2.2.1, the 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host adapter, made >by J Bond Computer Systems (JDC5075), has the same performance as the 53C825, >which is just a wide SCSI host adapter, about 18 MBytes/sec. >The disk drive I used are Seagate BARRACUDA 9 (ST19171W) , which seagate >claims that can go 40 MBytes in sychronous-transfer mode. > >Has someone experimented the throughput of 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host >adapter with any wide or ultra-wide drives? > >-Jin If you only have a single drive on the bus, the difference between 20MB/s and 40MB/s transfer rates on the bus will not make much of a difference in your benchmarks. The bus is not your bottleneck. The media transfer rate is. There are very few drives that can transfer to/from the media at rates above 10MB/s. In fact, the fastest I've seen a Seagate 'Cuda (this was a 4gig drive) transfer into cache was 15MB/s on an ultra/narrow bus with no other devices on it. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 1 15:57:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23343 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seabass.progroup.com (catfish.progroup.com [206.24.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23338 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.ProGroup.COM (tuna.progroup.com [206.24.122.5]) by seabass.progroup.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01325; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tuna.ProGroup.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA06341; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:57:11 -0700 From: craig@tuna.progroup.com (Craig W. Shaver) Message-Id: <199705012257.PAA06341@tuna.ProGroup.COM> Subject: Re: 53C875 UW SCSI-3 adapter To: jin@george.lbl.gov (Jin Guojun[ITG]) Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 15:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705012115.OAA10970@george.lbl.gov> from "Jin Guojun[ITG]" at May 1, 97 02:15:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Under both 2.1.7 and 2.2.1, the 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host adapter, made > by J Bond Computer Systems (JDC5075), has the same performance as the 53C825, > which is just a wide SCSI host adapter, about 18 MBytes/sec. > The disk drive I used are Seagate BARRACUDA 9 (ST19171W) , which seagate > claims that can go 40 MBytes in sychronous-transfer mode. How many drives do you have on the scsi buss? What did you use to test the speed? 18MB/sec sounds pretty good to me. > > Has someone experimented the throughput of 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host > adapter with any wide or ultra-wide drives? > > -Jin > > I am using a 2940UW with 4 ST32171W drives on a Solaris 2.5.1 x86, with 1 drive as the boot drive, and the other 3 striped (32k) using disksuite 4.0. Bonnie gives me about 12MB/sec max on the striped drives. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (415)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 1 18:18:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02030 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 1 May 1997 18:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from george.lbl.gov (george-2.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02025 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 18:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.5) id SAA17849; Thu, 1 May 1997 18:15:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:15:22 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun[ITG]" Message-Id: <199705020115.SAA17849@george.lbl.gov> To: craig@tuna.progroup.com Subject: Re: 53C875 UW SCSI-3 adapter Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk }> Under both 2.1.7 and 2.2.1, the 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host adapter, made }> by J Bond Computer Systems (JDC5075), has the same performance as the 53C825, }> which is just a wide SCSI host adapter, about 18 MBytes/sec. }> The disk drive I used are Seagate BARRACUDA 9 (ST19171W) , which seagate }> claims that can go 40 MBytes in sychronous-transfer mode. } }How many drives do you have on the scsi buss? } }What did you use to test the speed? } }18MB/sec sounds pretty good to me. 2-4-8 disk drives are daisy chained. Basically, 2 of ST32171W drives are enough to saturate the SCSI bus (10.5 MBps per disk drive). using 4 or 8 drives are just for further testing. Also, Seagate Hawk disks (6.28 MBps per disk drive) have been used for the same testing. Aggregate thoroughput are similar -- 17.8 MBytes/sec. Therefore, the problem is either the device driver or one of the drive/adapter not fit the spec. (See below). }> }> Has someone experimented the throughput of 53C875 ultra-wide SCSI-III host }> adapter with any wide or ultra-wide drives? }> }> -Jin }> }> } }I am using a 2940UW with 4 ST32171W drives on a Solaris 2.5.1 x86, with }1 drive as the boot drive, and the other 3 striped (32k) using disksuite }4.0. Bonnie gives me about 12MB/sec max on the striped drives. I am sure this Solaris 2.5.1 x86 SCSI driver's problem. The same cable, drives, and SCSI host adapter for above testing are used for testing on the same machine with Solaris 2.5.1 x86. The speed is: 8.4 MBps for single ST19171W dirve 9.3 MBps for more than one ST19171W dirves I would believe that SCSI driver under Solaris 2.5.1 x86 is not compliant with SCSI-III specification. It can only handle 10 MBps spec. Otherwise, how to explain the different behavior between BSD and Solaris kernel with exact same hardware components. BTW, all my test is done by raw device I/O. When you mentioned to use disksuite 4.0, I will guess the 12MB/sec max is via the file system stripping, or not? -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 3 06:32:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28667 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 3 May 1997 06:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28661 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 06:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.184.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/04/23 3.28)) id JAA02177; Sat, 3 May 1997 09:32:26 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from crc3.concentric.net (61033d0012ny.concentric.net [206.173.18.72]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.5) id JAA09308; Sat, 3 May 1997 09:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <336B3E57.6727@concentric.net> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 09:32:08 -0400 From: Richard Linane Reply-To: Typh0on@concentric.net Organization: Richard Linane X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Network Implementation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been given the task of designing & implementing a 35 node networking solution. It will eventually involve a bar coding system, time clock system, an enterprise solution and dialup capability through a firewall. If anyone can offer some friendly advice/tips that will help me to avoid some of the bumps along the, I will accept them most graciously. Sincerly, Rich Linane Typh0on@concentric.net