From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 21 06:41:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA05058 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 06:41:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from colossus.dyn.ml.org (root@199-170-160-225.la.inreach.net [199.107.160.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA05048 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 06:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dburr@POBoxes.com) Received: from control.colossus.dyn.ml.org (dburr@control.colossus.dyn.ml.org [192.160.60.1]) by colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA13218; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 06:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dburr@POBoxes.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 06:43:27 -0800 (PST) Organization: Starfleet Command From: Donald Burr To: Dennis Tenn Subject: RE: Lexmark Execjet II Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- My secret spy satellite informs me that on 21-Dec-97, Dennis Tenn wrote: >Does anyone know what the printcap settings should be for this printer >under FreeBSD? I recommend that you get and install the "apsfilter" package. Look in the packages/ subdirectory of your CDROM, or in /usr/ports/print/apsfilter. Installing this package should set thingup nicely for you. When you set it up, keep in mind that most printers these days are compatible with either the Hewlett-Packard (HP) or Canon inkjets (your manual will say which one). So set it up accordingly. - --- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNJ0rYPjpixuAwagxAQFXPQP6A7EgZUG++2ImoTdwEeFQI9k3pzG57/34 dxb3mJ7v5DbywnSOZQ2AnGWnSk/s6PPh7I9gQsl+b5b4sS+jJ2vgiMHMLkQkd+sA Wo42JMeXTHFbn5jp6/wDStWtVTY/aCSryr/PTVFWPazyq4x3jkiHYF0erLqhRqFc vrLWalYoeD8= =DqTZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 21 08:40:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA11339 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA11334 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@best.com) Received: from shell9.ba.best.com (bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id IAA29153 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:39:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:39:45 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, In my original post I forgot to mention that I am not subscribed to the hardware list. It appears that this question has sparked some discussion that I have not been included in. Please CC me on all posts reguarding this topic. Thanks. - burton - On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Chris Dillon wrote: > > On 21-Dec-97 David Kelly wrote: > >IMHO The One Big Advantage my Adaptec has over my '875 is the Adaptec > >BIOS has onboard low level format and bad block management/scanning. To > >do the same with the '875 one has to do DOS. Possibly there is a newer > >BIOS I can flash into my '875? > > The Tekram DC390-F (NCR '875 based) card that I recently bought does all of the > above, and appears to have full BIOS-based setup routines (never used an > Adaptec, so I can't compare). I believe this BIOS version is 2.01, and they > have an even newer BIOS in beta. Their web-site has all the information needed > to upgrade your existing BIOS, and they have two downloadable packages, one for > cards with a flash BIOS, and one for people who can burn their own new ROM's. > Assuming your card is made by Tekram, you can easily upgrade. I don't know how > they would feel about someone using their BIOS in another card (though it > should work perfectly, most likely). > > --- Chris Dillon > --- cdillon@tri-lakes.net > --- Powered by FreeBSD, the best operating system on the planet > for Intel x86 based computers. > ---- (http://www.freebsd.org) > From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 21 12:35:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA24621 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from fanfic.org (fanfic.org [205.150.35.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA24601 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:35:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Received: from localhost (dstenn@localhost) by fanfic.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03146; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:34:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dstenn@fanfic.org) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:34:56 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis Tenn X-Sender: dstenn@fanfic To: Donald Burr cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Lexmark Execjet II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Donald Burr wrote: > >Does anyone know what the printcap settings should be for this printer > >under FreeBSD? > > I recommend that you get and install the "apsfilter" package. Look in the > packages/ subdirectory of your CDROM, or in /usr/ports/print/apsfilter. > Installing this package should set thingup nicely for you. > > When you set it up, keep in mind that most printers these days are > compatible with either the Hewlett-Packard (HP) or Canon inkjets (your > manual will say which one). So set it up accordingly. Thanks, it worked. I configured it as a HP deskjet and I can print now. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dennis Tenn * There will always come a time dstenn@fanfic.org * When your love will be tested * Stand tall and rise to the occasion * For only then will you grow strong. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 21 16:20:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09520 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 16:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09512 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 16:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-29.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.29]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11505; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 18:20:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA01118; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:57:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712212357.RAA01118@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chris Dillon cc: hardware@freebsd.org From: David Kelly Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-reply-to: Message from Chris Dillon of "Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:47:19 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:57:15 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Dillon writes: > > On 21-Dec-97 David Kelly wrote: > >IMHO The One Big Advantage my Adaptec has over my '875 is the Adaptec > >BIOS has onboard low level format and bad block management/scanning. To > >do the same with the '875 one has to do DOS. Possibly there is a newer > >BIOS I can flash into my '875? > > The Tekram DC390-F (NCR '875 based) card that I recently bought does all of the > above, and appears to have full BIOS-based setup routines (never used an > Adaptec, so I can't compare). I believe this BIOS version is 2.01, and they > have an even newer BIOS in beta. Their web-site has all the information needed > to upgrade your existing BIOS, and they have two downloadable packages, one for > cards with a flash BIOS, and one for people who can burn their own new ROM's. > Assuming your card is made by Tekram, you can easily upgrade. I don't know how > they would feel about someone using their BIOS in another card (though it > should work perfectly, most likely). Interesting. And tempting. Finally something to distinguish between various makers of Symbios cards. My Asus SC-875 appears to have a plain geniune Symbios BIOS. In the 4.X.X range, I think, 1996. Doesn't say Asus anywhere but in silkscreen on the card itself. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 03:42:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA18109 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from vaimsx.vai.co.at (vaimsx.vai.co.at [148.56.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA18088 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from HaiderRo@linz.vai.co.at) Received: by vaimsx.vai.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:25:08 +0100 Message-ID: <70D6A3FCD8F1CF11A86508002BE74D7938BA89@mail1.vai.co.at> From: Haider Roland VAI/TAW2 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: network adapter jumper settings ? Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:25:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what I'm askin' looks like a question that cries for a "_rtfm_" reply, but..... To avoid troubles with a DO$ setup program I've searched for an old network adapter that is completely hardware configure able. I really got one, but now the bad news: I have no manual and no (nearly) idea what type it is. The only thing that helps identifying is a little red sticker saying: "Novell Labs Tested & Approved" and a marking "Rev N3.1" It's a 16bit ISA card with a socket for a boot-ROM, so I assume it's a NE2000. If somebody can identify the card with the following description any help with the jumper settings would be appreciated. Connectors: BNC and 15pin AUI Chip: W89C901 ws JP1 XX XX JP2 JP3 XXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX JP4 JP5 JP6 XXXX|XXXXX|X JP7 IRQ XXXX|XXXXX|X XXXXXXXXXX XXXX|XXXXX|X XXXXXXXXXX I/O MEM ROM 15 2 except JP7 I'm not shure what to set. Thank's for your help! Cheers, Roland From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 10:07:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA11535 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from pobox1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA11521 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpavelcak@philos.umass.edu) Received: from emily.oit.umass.edu by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #20973) with ESMTP id <0ELL0042TRO6A7@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:07:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by emily.oit.umass.edu (8.8.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA18998 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:07:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:07:17 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: TV tuner cards To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Happy Holidays All. I looked at fxtv in the ports, did some web shopping and finally decided to solicit some opinions from people with experience. Any views about which TV-card to buy STB TV PCI or one of the Hauppage cards. I've seen a little on this in the archives, but not much. Thanks. Greg From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 10:16:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA12314 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:16:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from rfd1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12304 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpavelcak@philos.umass.edu) Received: from emily.oit.umass.edu by rfd1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #20973) with ESMTP id <0ELL005O2S28PR@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by emily.oit.umass.edu (8.8.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA08013 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:15:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:15:44 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Pavelcak Subject: Inexpensive Printers that work. To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Happy holidays again. Since I'm doing some hardware shopping, I might as well get your views about printers too. I have an old Epson lq-800. I installed apsfilter and tried printing to it. The result is slow, poor quality, form-feed- past-every-other-page-even-with-"suppress-form-feed"-in-the-printcap output. I know the printer can do better, I've seen it produce better stuff with some other OS. Is there some software I can add to get better results with this old pin printer. If not, can you recommend an ink-jet or a low-end laser that will give good results. Think inexpensive please. I really don't use a printer much, but I still haven't trained myself to do all my editing at the screen. Eventually I still need paper in my hands. Oh well. Thanks. Greg From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 10:16:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA12366 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12357 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA14958; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014948; Mon Dec 22 10:15:12 1997 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id KAA25241; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:15:12 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199712221815.KAA25241@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: network adapter jumper settings ? In-Reply-To: <70D6A3FCD8F1CF11A86508002BE74D7938BA89@mail1.vai.co.at> from Haider Roland VAI/TAW2 at "Dec 22, 97 12:25:07 pm" To: HaiderRo@linz.vai.co.at (Haider Roland VAI/TAW2) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:15:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Haider Roland VAI/TAW2 writes: > It's a 16bit ISA card with a socket for a boot-ROM, so I assume it's a > NE2000. Yep.. > If somebody can identify the card with the following description any > help with the jumper settings would be appreciated. > > Connectors: BNC and 15pin AUI > Chip: W89C901 > > ws > JP1 XX > XX JP2 > JP3 XXXXXXX > XXXXXXX > XXXXXXX > JP4 JP5 JP6 > XXXX|XXXXX|X JP7 IRQ > XXXX|XXXXX|X XXXXXXXXXX > XXXX|XXXXX|X XXXXXXXXXX > I/O MEM ROM 15 2 > > except JP7 I'm not shure what to set. My guess: Leave ROM off, MEM doesn't matter, I/O is your base address.. and 0x300 is sure to be one of them. You can either (a) Try all jumper combinations with kernel set to 0x300 (b) Try a bunch of kernel settings (boot -c) to see if you can find the card. If you do (a), it looks like it will only take <= 16 attempts.. :-) -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 12:00:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22130 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:00:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from persprog.com (root@persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22107 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:00:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@persprog.com) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id OAA17154; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:55:20 -0500 Received: from dave.ppi.com(192.2.2.6) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017152; Mon Dec 22 14:55:14 1997 Message-ID: <349EC589.C64879A6@persprog.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:54:50 -0500 From: "David W. Alderman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Advansys OK? References: <199712212357.RAA01118@nospam.hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know about the busmastering Advansys cards? The Iomega Jazz Jet PCI is actually an Advansys. One interesting thing about this card is that it is Mac compatible - pretty unique for a PCI card with a BIOS, in my experience. Dave Alderman From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 22 19:36:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA25534 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA25528 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00593; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:00:44 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199712230330.OAA00593@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg Pavelcak cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inexpensive Printers that work. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:15:44 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:00:44 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Happy holidays again. > > Since I'm doing some hardware shopping, I might as well get your views > about printers too. I have an old Epson lq-800. I installed apsfilter > and tried printing to it. The result is slow, poor quality, form-feed- > past-every-other-page-even-with-"suppress-form-feed"-in-the-printcap > output. I know the printer can do better, I've seen it produce better > stuff with some other OS. Is there some software I can add to get > better results with this old pin printer. If not, can you recommend an > ink-jet or a low-end laser that will give good results. Think > inexpensive please. I really don't use a printer much, but I still > haven't trained myself to do all my editing at the screen. Eventually > I still need paper in my hands. Oh well. I do hope that when you are printing to paper, you split things into more paragraphs. Breaking the above into answerable components is pretty tough. Some points for you: - The formfeed issue is a disagreement between ghostscript (the postscript rendering engine used by apsfilter) and your printer over the length of the paper that you are using. It sounds as though ghostscript expects the paper to be larger than you are using. I would hazard a guess that you are using 8.5x11 sheetfeed, but ghostscript expects you are using letter-size. - The lousy resolution is a speed tradeoff. You can increase the quality of the output by tweaking the arguments to ghostscript in /etc/apsfilterrc. See the ghostscript documentation for details on winding it up, but be prepared to experiment. If you want to buy a new printer, consider the low-end inkjets (Canon, HP, Lexmark, etc.). Even the bottom end of the food chain there is pretty good these days. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ Remember, the race is long, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and in the end it's only with yourself. \\ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 23 01:35:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26010 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mailhub (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA26005 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fj@schizo.dk.tfs.com) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com by mailhub (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA04183; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 01:28:08 -0800 Received: (from fj@localhost) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA23421; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:34:21 +0100 (MET) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199712230934.KAA23421@schizo.dk.tfs.com> Subject: Re: TV tuner cards In-Reply-To: from Greg Pavelcak at "Dec 22, 97 01:07:17 pm" To: gpavelcak@philos.umass.edu (Greg Pavelcak) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:34:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I looked at fxtv in the ports, did some web shopping and finally > decided to solicit some opinions from people with experience. Any > views about which TV-card to buy STB TV PCI or one of the Hauppage > cards. I've seen a little on this in the archives, but not much. Since nobody else have spoken, I'll share my personal experience. I own the Hauppage Win/TV with stereo, Text TV and radio (PAL version. Judging from their web page, it's the model 418). Once i managed to add support for this version of the card to the driver, it's been working flawlessly. I have no experiences with other cards, but I can only recommend this one. Having the radio present is very nice. Before you shop you'll want to make sure that your graphics card support PCI-PCI transfers to it's memory (I think it's called DirectDraw support). If you are interested in TV cards, you will want to listen in on the freebsd-multimedia mailinglist. Merry Christmas Everybody Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not TRW Financial Systems, Denmark compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@tfs.com what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 4330 4050 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 23 13:50:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA12725 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mendota.terracom.net (mendota.terracom.net [205.213.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA12716 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfarina@terracom.net) Received: from bill (tc5.terracom.net [205.213.64.5]) by mendota.terracom.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA14073 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:57:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971223214825.0098ee44@pop.terracom.net> X-Sender: bfarina@pop.terracom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:48:25 -0600 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bill Farina Subject: Subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 24 17:58:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA16925 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:58:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from tibet.stepnet.com (tibet.stepnet.com [206.14.120.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA16920 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:58:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by tibet.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11786; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199712250158.RAA11786@tibet.stepnet.com> Subject: Re: source for IBMhd? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:58:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: crb@ChrisBowman.com, adam@netsonic.com, michaelv@MindBender.serv.net In-Reply-To: from "Christopher R. Bowman" at "Dec 17, 97 00:18:43 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for everyone's help. I ended up buying the Tekram 390F from CMPExpress for $124 + shipping = $133 and the DCAS-34330 UW from Bason for $420 including tax and shipping. The drive from Bason is a OEM version with 3yr warranty. Bason promised to honor the warranty if IBM does not, and they noted so on the invoice. So far I am very happy with the purchase. ping From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 25 19:39:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA18581 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from limbo.rtfm.net (nathan@rtfm.net [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA18576 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@limbo.rtfm.net) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.rtfm.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA17117 for hardware@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:40:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: Nathan Dorfman Message-Id: <199712260340.WAA17117@limbo.rtfm.net> To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: New cheap soundcard for 3.0-current machine Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have a machine running 3.0-current and nothing else (a 4G dangerously dedicated disk). I want to buy myself a cheap soundcard (SB16-style quality is fine) that I can actually configure without running a config program under DOS as with the SB16. Jumper cards aren't made anymore so anything that is set to a known default that or is detectable would be great. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 25 20:55:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA22363 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 20:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA22356 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 20:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14113; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 20:54:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971225205436.28257@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 20:54:36 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nathan Dorfman Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New cheap soundcard for 3.0-current machine References: <199712260340.WAA17117@limbo.rtfm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199712260340.WAA17117@limbo.rtfm.net>; from Nathan Dorfman on Thu, Dec 25, 1997 at 10:40:01PM -0500 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nathan Dorfman scribbled this message on Dec 25: > Hi! I have a machine running 3.0-current and nothing else (a 4G > dangerously dedicated disk). I want to buy myself a cheap soundcard > (SB16-style quality is fine) that I can actually configure without > running a config program under DOS as with the SB16. Jumper cards > aren't made anymore so anything that is set to a known default that > or is detectable would be great. Any ideas? well... you could go with a cs4237 based sound card.. or something similar... they actually provide much better quality than sb16 boards at a fraction of the price... I sell them for $24 + shipping... also OPTi boards are suppose to be good, but I haven't ever used 'em... since you are using -current, using Luigi's sound drivers and the PnP code won't be a problem... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 12:45:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA03099 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03091 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@best.com) Received: from shell9.ba.best.com (bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id LAA13634 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:41:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:41:07 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I've purchased the NCR810 controller, but I've noticed some strange things while running my system at the 83MHz (3.0X, 83Mhz = 250) bus speed. Make -k world from clean 2.2.5 source on hardware that's known to build (with the exception of this controller) keeps rebooting in the early stages of make world. As best as I can tell it is rebooting during libg++ (started with "time make -k world >& /home/bsampley/mk_world.250.83"). At first I thought the problem was the second hard drive (ST43400). When I first installed the new controller, I noticed the "little green light" on the front of the drive was flashing rapidly after the controller found the drive. I tried adjusting the jumpers, but I couldn't find a setting that made the drive happy. I later changed my mind when I received similar signal 11 errors while attempting to build cvsup from the ports collection (which is mounted on the other drive). All of the ports I have tried have been able build without errors (like afterstep, xlockmore, staroffice, filerunner, tcl-8.0, ssh and xv) except cvsup. Any ideas, or is my hardware telling me it's not going to fly at 83MHz? BTW, Windoze95 (which is only kept for games runs fine at 83MHz on sd0. Tom's hardware page says if Win95 will run overclocked without blowing up, then your chances are good at overclocking the board/cpu). Here's /etc/fstab: root(110)# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/sd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/sd0s2g /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/sd0s2f /usr/obj ufs rw,noatime,async 22 /dev/sd1s1e /usr/src ufs rw,noatime,async 22 /dev/sd0s2e /var ufs rw 2 2 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 root(111)# Here's the tail of mk_world.250.83: root(106)# tail /home/bsampley/mk_world.250.83 cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitany.c -o bitany.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitblt.c -o bitblt.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitclear.c -o bitclear.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitcopy.c -o bitcopy.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitcount.c -o bitcount.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitinvert.c -o bitinvert.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitlcomp.c -o bitlcomp.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitset1.c -o bitset1.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/bitxor.c -o bitxor.so cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/timer.c -o timer.so root(107)# In reviewing /var/log/messages I noticed the following: Dec 24 21:17:30 myname /kernel: pid 17796 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:18:07 myname /kernel: pid 17873 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:18:13 myname /kernel: pid 17884 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:18:31 myname /kernel: pid 17919 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:18:56 myname /kernel: pid 17948 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:19:31 myname /kernel: pid 18037 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:19:43 myname /kernel: pid 18051 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:07 myname /kernel: pid 18202 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:18 myname /kernel: pid 18207 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:35 myname /kernel: pid 18252 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:47 myname /kernel: pid 18277 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:51 myname /kernel: pid 18292 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:21:52 myname /kernel: pid 18297 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:22:30 myname /kernel: pid 19688 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:22:31 myname /kernel: pid 19689 (as), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:22:31 myname /kernel: pid 19696 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:22:31 myname /kernel: pid 19704 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:22:49 myname /kernel: pid 20132 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:00 myname /kernel: pid 20280 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:05 myname /kernel: pid 20369 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:06 myname /kernel: pid 20378 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:17 myname /kernel: pid 20517 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:19 myname /kernel: pid 20541 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:23:20 myname /kernel: pid 20565 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:24:18 myname /kernel: pid 21526 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:24:20 myname /kernel: pid 21540 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Dec 24 21:24:24 myname /kernel: pid 21569 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Here's dmesg: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Oct 21 14:33:00 GMT 1997 jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC CPU: Pentium (250.57-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127172608 (124192K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 vga0 rev 2 int a irq 12 on pci0:9 ncr0 rev 18 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "COMPAQ ST15150N 5216" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:2:0): "SEAGATE ST43400N 1028" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ncr0:2:0): Direct-Access sd1(ncr0:2:0): 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) 2777MB (5688447 512 byte sectors) de0 rev 34 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 de0: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:40:05:40:a2:37 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis wcd0: 1378Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: medium type unknown, unlocked nca0 at 0x1f88-0x1f8b irq 10 on isa nca0: type ProAudioSpectrum-16 nca0 waiting for scsi devices to settle npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to sd0a From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 13:29:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA05941 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:29:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA05926 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15345; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:29:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971226132921.03580@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:29:21 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Burton Sampley Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Burton Sampley on Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 11:41:07AM -0800 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Burton Sampley scribbled this message on Dec 26: > I've purchased the NCR810 controller, but I've noticed some strange things > while running my system at the 83MHz (3.0X, 83Mhz = 250) bus speed. Make > -k world from clean 2.2.5 source on hardware that's known to build (with > the exception of this controller) keeps rebooting in the early stages of > make world. As best as I can tell it is rebooting during libg++ (started > with "time make -k world >& /home/bsampley/mk_world.250.83"). At first I > thought the problem was the second hard drive (ST43400). When I first > installed the new controller, I noticed the "little green light" on the > front of the drive was flashing rapidly after the controller found the > drive. I tried adjusting the jumpers, but I couldn't find a setting that > made the drive happy. I later changed my mind when I received similar > signal 11 errors while attempting to build cvsup from the ports collection > (which is mounted on the other drive). All of the ports I have tried have > been able build without errors (like afterstep, xlockmore, staroffice, > filerunner, tcl-8.0, ssh and xv) except cvsup. Any ideas, or is my > hardware telling me it's not going to fly at 83MHz? BTW, Windoze95 (which > is only kept for games runs fine at 83MHz on sd0. Tom's hardware page > says if Win95 will run overclocked without blowing up, then your chances > are good at overclocking the board/cpu). sounds like your memory can't handle the faster bus speed... try slowing down your memory... I just got a new k6/200 and tried setting the memory speed to Turbo, but about a half hour into the buildworld, it would crash... once corrupting five bytes in a file (`= "NO' with `^P^Q \xb7o' which is kinda wierd, two bytes were slid by one bit, another two had signle bit errors, and another one just didn't look at all similar to the original pattern... otherwise the system would run normally... right now I've put it back to fast (from Turbo)... but that was just under an hour ago... now to get the scsi bus interference out of my stereo system... (and it's only a fast system too) :( -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 13:47:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07252 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:47:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA07232 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@best.com) Received: from shell9.ba.best.com (bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id NAA23094; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:44:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:44:30 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com To: John-Mark Gurney cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: <19971226132921.03580@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > sounds like your memory can't handle the faster bus speed... try slowing > down your memory... I just got a new k6/200 and tried setting the memory > speed to Turbo, but about a half hour into the buildworld, it would > crash... once corrupting five bytes in a file (`= "NO' with `^P^Q \xb7o' > which is kinda wierd, two bytes were slid by one bit, another two had > signle bit errors, and another one just didn't look at all similar to > the original pattern... otherwise the system would run normally... Thanks for the info. I just remembered some important info I left out of my earlier message. While editing my ./.cshrc file in vi, suddenly the file became corrputed with really wierd charaters. I'm going to bring the system down and double check the memory settings. FYI, the current memory settings were running fine when I was overclocking the bus to 75MHz. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 16:37:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA16418 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16413 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tdwyer@io.telstra.com.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA16620; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:36:56 +1100 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au(192.148.147.16) via SMTP by mail.telstra.com.au, id smtpd016614; Sat Dec 27 11:36:35 1997 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA10589; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:36:33 +1100 (EST) Received: from cdn-mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134), claiming to be "cdn-mail.telecom.com.au" via SMTP by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au, id smtpd010583; Sat Dec 27 11:36:19 1997 Received: from io.telecom.com.au (io.telecom.com.au [172.57.9.32]) by cdn-mail.telecom.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA00159; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:36:20 +1100 (EST) Received: (from tdwyer@localhost) by io.telecom.com.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA04545; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:35:23 +0800 (WST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:35:21 +0800 (WST) From: Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 To: Burton Sampley cc: hardware@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Burton Sampley wrote: > Greetings, > > I've purchased the NCR810 controller, but I've noticed some strange things > while running my system at the 83MHz (3.0X, 83Mhz = 250) bus speed. Make [...] > > Here's dmesg: > > FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Oct 21 14:33:00 GMT 1997 > jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > CPU: Pentium (250.57-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 > Features=0x8001bf [...] I take it you have a P200MMX. A friend of mine had similar problems with his machine using the same settings as you've used. He reduced the processor multiplier to 2.5, ( I know, it seems like a retrograde step), leaving the bus at 83 MHz and is now running without problems. He says although the processor is only running at 210 MHz now, the whole system seems faster, better than 3 & 75MHz. Memory read/writes are considerable quicker and disk i/o is marginally faster, I suppose it depends on whether you need more processor (3.0 & 75Mhz) or better device i/o (2.5 & 83 MHz). He only runs Win95 but he's done some benchmarks for the two settings (3 & 75, 2.5 & 83) I always thought the P166MMX was better value than the P200MMX. I haven't seen a P166MMX That couldn't be bus overclocked to 83 MHz yet. I just bus overclocked my son's new P166MMX to 83 MHz when I bought it for him just before Christmas. Most people I know with P200's have not been able to bus overclock them to 83MHz at the 3X processor multiplier. 8-( I'd be surprised if it's your memory that's the problem, I only have 70ns Fast Page RAM in my FreeBSD box (P133 Classic ASUS Rev 3.0 M/B) and I'm using default BIOS settings at 83MHz - now a P166 8-). I've bus overclocked a lot of ASUS M/B machines with varying types of RAM and, (excepting P200MMX's) haven't found one I couldn't run with an 83MHz bus, provided peripherals like early BIOS revisions of Adaptec PCI SCSI controllers (before BIOS ver 1.21) didn't prevent it. Oh yes, check your PB cache module if you have one. Make sure it's fast enough to run at 83MHz or remove it. I think the module needs to be at least the same speed as any embedded on the M/B (8ns IIRC) otherwise it will only run at 75 with the normal 15ns PB cache. Good luck. _-_|\ Terry Dwyer E-Mail Work: tdwyer@io.telecom.com.au / \ System Administrator Private: tdwyer@omen.com.au *_.^\_/ Telstra Corporation Phone: +61 8 9491 5161 Fax: +61 8 9221 2631 v Perth Western Australia (I do not speak for Telstra or Telecom) From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 17:50:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA19611 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (root@m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19594 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kb8rjy@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: (from kb8rjy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) id UAA29842; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:45:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Shaun Q." Message-Id: <199712270145.UAA29842@m-net.arbornet.org> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: zip drive problems Cc: matt@nmedia.net Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey all... I'm having problems with my new Parallel Port zip drive It works in dos (but only with the latest version of guest.exe, not with the older versions.) I've been trying to get it to work in freebsd also, but it just says that it is waiting for scsi devices to settle and never finds the zip. The version of the rom on this zip is J.03 . Any ideas? The dmesg will be included at the bottom of this message. Thanks for any help anyone can offer me. Shaun Qualheim kb8rjy@arbornet.org Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Dec 25 04:43:28 CST 1997 root@localhost:/usr/src/sys/compile/kb8rjy2.old CPU: Cyrix 486DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" DIR=0xb1b Stepping=0 Revision=11 real memory = 20971520 (20480K bytes) avail memory = 18296832 (17868K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A psm0 not found at 0x60 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 408MB (836070 sectors), 899 cyls, 15 heads, 62 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy wcd0: 344Kb/sec, 256Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: medium type unknown, unlocked ppc0 at 0x278 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: on ppbus 0 vpo0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at vpo0 bus 0 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: # From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 26 18:59:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA22886 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@proxy3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA22875 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsampley@best.com) Received: from shell9.ba.best.com (bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com [206.184.139.140]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id SAA18457; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:58:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 18:58:15 -0800 (PST) From: Burton Sampley X-Sender: bsampley@shell9.ba.best.com To: Terry Dwyer 61 8 9491 5161 cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR810 (or 875) & Asus P55T2P4 & Overclocking ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry, Thanks for the info. It's actually it's a P5-233MMX. The MB is rev 3.1 / BIOS rev 203. The memory is 4 32 meg simms (totaling 128meg), 60ns EDO, which was unfortunately purchased from a not-so-reputable store, so it could be the memory. It seems to run fine at 75MHz, though. I can't afford to replace the memory now. I'll just make do with 3.5X and 75MHz. I actually did a comparison of make -k world between 66 and 75 MHz bus speeds, 233 and 266 MHz respectively. Under the same conditions, with a make clean and /usr/obj being empty the difference was marginal; only 14 minutes faster at 75 MHz. Now that I have an extra SCSI controller supported by FBSD, I'm thinking of running 1 drive on each controller to verify if there will be any difference by reducing the traffic on the SCSI bus. I don't think this will make too big of a difference. My ultimate goal is to reduce my make world time. The best results so far have been 2:06:37 (I think that included building the profile libs). Oh, BTW, the cache is 512K on the board (no external PB module). To get 250 I had to drop the multiplier down to 3.0X. I tried it at 3.5X and 83 MHz, but couldn't even get into BIOS (if I did the math correct that would be almost 290 MHz, I doubt the motherboard could handle that!). - burton - From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 27 17:04:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02351 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 17:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp10.portal.net.au [202.12.71.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02338 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 17:04:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00754; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:44:15 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199712270814.SAA00754@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Shaun Q." cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, matt@nmedia.net, ppbus@smith.net.au Subject: Re: zip drive problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:45:37 CDT." <199712270145.UAA29842@m-net.arbornet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:44:15 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day Shaun. Could you please wrap your paragraphs? Its much harder to reply to a message if you have to reformat it first. > I'm having problems with my new Parallel Port zip drive > It works in dos (but only with the latest version of guest.exe, not > with the older versions.) I've been trying to get it to work in > freebsd also, but it just says that it is waiting for scsi devices > to settle and never finds the zip. Great. 8( It sounds like they've changed something in the interface or the drive that makes it incompatible with the previous versions. I haven't heard anything about this to date, so I don't think there's an easy answer, sorry. > ppc0 at 0x278 irq 7 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset in EPP mode (EPP 1.9) > nlpt0: on ppbus 0 > nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > vpo0: on ppbus 0 > vpo0: waiting for scsi devices to settle > scbus0 at vpo0 bus 0 Presuming you have the 'sd' device in your kernel config, you should have seen the Zip here. You might want to try adding 'od' as well, just in case they have changed the device type, although I would have expected to see it probed nonetheless. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ Remember, the race is long, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and in the end it's only with yourself. \\ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 27 19:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10550 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 19:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware) Received: from new.voltage.net (ns.voltage.net [208.15.104.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10542; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 19:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sward@voltage.net) Received: from arky.voltage.net (ArkyLady@arky.voltage.net [208.15.104.72]) by new.voltage.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06615; Sat, 27 Dec 1997 21:10:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971227211044.007dcc10@voltage.net> X-Sender: sward@voltage.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 21:10:44 -0600 To: hardware@freebsd.org From: Susie Ward Subject: Cyclades & silo overflow problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed a few posts about this in the archives, but didn't see any solutions. I am currently using a Cyclades 32Ye (which is one ISA card with two 16 port external modules, previously I used two Cyclades 8Yo ISA cards without any problems) and recently upgraded to 2.2-STABLE and have yet to figure out how to solve this problem. The first 16 ports work fine, but the second 16 don't work at all ... when someone tries to login, it starts spewing silo overflow errors. The modems are a Microcom ISPorte and every part of the confuration is the same for all of the ports, including the modem settings. I'm still trying various things, but would appreciate *any* suggestions that might solve this problem. TIA, Susie