From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 7 16:45:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08598 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 16:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail-relay1.dti.net (mail-relay1.dti.net [206.252.128.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08591 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 16:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sporkl@dti.net) Received: from mail.dti.net (mail.dti.net [206.252.128.10]) by mail-relay1.dti.net (8.8.7/1.0/rdf) with ESMTP id TAA05749 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from hehehehe (dyna169.dialup.dti.net [206.252.158.15]) by mail.dti.net (8.8.8/1.3/rdf) with SMTP id TAA18711; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:44:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <348B4245.3914@dti.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 19:41:41 -0500 From: SPike Organization: SPORKL INC! X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NYC dialup PPP acess. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am looking for dialup PPP access via FreeBSD in the New York City area. If anyone is in that area, I would appreciate it if you could point me to your website or other source of information. Thank you. (please reply directly, I'm not on the list) -Spike From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 7 19:11:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA21025 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:11:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21019 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:11:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA01258 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 21:13:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971207201012.0098f210@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 20:10:13 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jack Wenger Subject: Out of Town Dial-Up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I'm going to be in Atlanta from 12-15 to 12-18 for an IBM internet specialty training course, and I would like to get a temporary dial up account, so my email doesn't grow to over 6 gig :) Seriously, I need to access my servers on a daily basis and would appreciate any help I could get. Thanx! ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 09:43:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23440 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23422 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:43:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from admin@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA01060; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:45:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971208104532.33680@wicked.eaznet.com.> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:45:32 -0700 From: System Administrator To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: UPSd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74e Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug, Does UPSd work with the APC SmartUPS v/s series or just the SmartUPS? I may have made a mistake when I purchased the v/s. I saw that it was compatible with SCO, so I (probablyincorrectly) assumed that it could work with FreeBSD. Any info you may have would be greatly appreciated... Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 10:28:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27009 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:28:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27002 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:28:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20173; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:27:58 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199712081827.MAA20173@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: UPSd In-Reply-To: <19971208104532.33680@wicked.eaznet.com.> from System Administrator at "Dec 8, 97 10:45:32 am" To: admin@wicked.eaznet.com (System Administrator) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:27:58 -0600 (CST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Doug, > > Does UPSd work with the APC SmartUPS v/s series or just the SmartUPS? I may have made a mistake when I purchased the v/s. I saw that it was compatible with SCO, so I (probablyincorrectly) assumed that it could work with FreeBSD. > > Any info you may have would be greatly appreciated... > > Eddie > > The v/s series really isn't a 'smart' ups. Even APC's powerchute software requires you to turn off the 'smart' features of it to work with it... The v/s series is essentially a hyped up 'back-ups'. Kevin From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 10:35:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27626 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:35:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27616 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:35:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22880; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:35:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA12177; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:35:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:35:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199712081835.LAA12177@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: System Administrator Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UPSd In-Reply-To: <19971208104532.33680@wicked.eaznet.com.> References: <19971208104532.33680@wicked.eaznet.com.> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does UPSd work with the APC SmartUPS v/s series or just the SmartUPS? It *works* with the V/S, but the lower priced series doesn't offer many features that I consider 'critical' for a real UPS setup, so I sent mine back and got a real UPS. (I can't remember which features, but I *think* it had something to do with dead battery shutoff notice, which the V/S didn't support...) Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 10:49:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28411 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from onyx.atipa.com (user26720@ns.atipa.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA28405 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1018); 8 Dec 1997 18:54:58 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:54:58 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa X-Sender: freebsd@dot.ishiboo.com To: Robin Melville cc: Andreas Klemm , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Best SQL was: Re: PostgreSQL for Yellow Pages In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971121182225.007db8d0@wrcmail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have had to do this research myself recently. Here is what I found: 1) msql - really slow and featureless, but easy to use and has a good user base. 2) MySQL - really fast and featureless, with fairly good user base. They sacrifice lots of usability for speed enhancements (no rollbacks, views, etc.), and I am not really convinced how stable it is. Relies on threads (good performance; possible maintenance nightmare) 3) PostgreSQL - Slow but featurefull and well supported. I heard the next version will be lots faster. Good user base. Has been around a _long_ time. What I ended usign was... 4) Kubl - Linux binary, but runs ok (so far) in emulation. Commercial ($199 for devlopment libs + unlimited users), but is very fast, and feature rich. It's native API is ODBC, so I feel good about portable code that is not too slow. It also has an interactive client that interprets SQL/OBDC scripts. I have been VERY pleased so far. Fast, full-featured, and so far stable. www.kubl.com Kevin > >> Dear Sir / Madam, > >> > >> Please do bear withme since I do not know the best approach to present > >> you with my immediate need to implement PostgreSQL. > > >> 3. Do you think that PostgreSQL is the right product for such a project? > > > >Yes I think so. > > You might also think about "mysql". It rather depends how much data you are > planning to handle. If small amounts, and speed is not an issue, postgresql > is fine... if large then try mysql -- it has far less features but is much > quicker and seems more robust. I recently stress-tested them both and > discovered that 250,000 updates on postgresql took 1 hour 10 minutes, on > Mysql just 9 minutes. Simple joined selects on the trial database were at > least 3 times quicker on mysql than on pgress (which also ran out of memory > sometimes). > > A further possibility is "msql" which has a tiny subset of SQL > functionality but is well supported for web access. A reasonably fully > featured commercial alternative which works well on FreeBSD is Yard > (http://www.yard.de/). > > Regards > > Robin. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service > Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team (Extn. 49178) > Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 > Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk > WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ > --------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 12:39:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA08464 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from g0d.tbe.net (qmailq@g0d.tbe.net [208.192.6.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA08442 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwb@g0d.tbe.net) Received: (qmail 26322 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Dec 1997 20:38:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: radiusd using a UNIX based SQL server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anyone ever set up any varient of radiusd to get user information (including password, ips, and routes) from an SQL database residing in an SQL server on a UNIX based machine? Jim Brinkerhoff jwb@tbe.net _____ ___ ___ |_ _| _ ) __| James W. Brinkerhoff | | | _ \ _| TBE Network Security Administrator |_| |___/___| TBE Internet Services - 973.835.9696 Key fingerprint = 0E DA 27 39 91 1E B6 29 A4 D2 5E E5 FD 3B F4 3C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNIxa3KifyqXAOLcdAQFB/gP/U/9Kh4fkFrYpu0qP9j8JlV6RveGAH5jJ LKhOsj6UloXSPH+IAdBobBtbVvqo3SyJx19ET3Xlxd5RrYWueOL4jvbX4nREMoLj wjTN0q691XI0vX5HWKDpHlS3HHizPHw3SFvnRZdkf/D2zzVSwssNAbuDEkbhQswA G4U53qIqnDw= =c6p9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 15:13:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25901 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25851 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13329; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:54:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:54:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: System Administrator cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPSd In-Reply-To: <19971208104532.33680@wicked.eaznet.com.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, System Administrator wrote: > Does UPSd work with the APC SmartUPS v/s series or just the SmartUPS? I > may have made a mistake when I purchased the v/s. I saw that it was > compatible with SCO, so I (probablyincorrectly) assumed that it could > work with FreeBSD. There are commands for the SmartUPS and the SmartUPS v/s in the code. I'm trying to verify them with the v/s attached to our mail server, but the admin of that machine is trying to set some uptime record and won't shutdown the box so I can swipe it. :-( The profiles have to be reset for 120 volts, as they're for 230 at the moment. I've done this for the smart models but alas I don't have access to the v/s to change them. The SCO compatibility refers to PowerChute, which doesn't work on FreeBSD. Thus the evolution of upsd. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 15:28:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA28036 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:28:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from g0d.tbe.net (qmailq@g0d.tbe.net [208.192.6.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA28027 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwb@g0d.tbe.net) Received: (qmail 26619 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Dec 1997 23:28:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:27:45 -0500 (EST) From: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radiusd using a UNIX based SQL server In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971209102133.00ba7a10@bach> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Greg Ryan wrote: > we just finished putting livingston radiusd in- the plan is to store all of > the user info in an mssql db, do a query and simply spit out a new 'users' > file each time a change is made... I know someone who is working on a setup of patches to radiusd that allow all logs to be kept in a mSQL db as well as the user info. That way you can print out usage reports, etc. Also, I was hoping for a mod to pull NIS info from a mSQL (or mySQL preferably) db, etc so all user information could be stored in one central location. Yummy... Jim _____ ___ ___ |_ _| _ ) __| James W. Brinkerhoff | | | _ \ _| TBE Network Security Administrator |_| |___/___| TBE Internet Services - 973.835.9696 Key fingerprint = 0E DA 27 39 91 1E B6 29 A4 D2 5E E5 FD 3B F4 3C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNIyCfKifyqXAOLcdAQH/9AP/cRoJOmMW7t21QEaopwQB+yfNhws2EfBj qOx6Bar3g2M2cJeoeTZEpNn6VEFpCA9PfGvJwcbopQIEXd75OakfA8CEC26wAv94 sIoXCgRAD9GJPR+8kvNlyMiu42+344z25LqyCHilJTqbrFlqXeRr9N56VlNc01jK x49g16+gV4I= =IwjI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 18:36:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA15972 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mother.sneaker.net.au (akm@mother.sneaker.net.au [203.30.3.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA15902 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akm@mother.sneaker.net.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mother.sneaker.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12943; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:45:31 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199712090245.NAA12943@mother.sneaker.net.au> Subject: Re: UPSd To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:45:31 +1100 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Dec 8, 97 02:54:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk +-----[ Doug White ]------------------------------ | | admin of that machine is trying to set some uptime record and won't | shutdown the box so I can swipe it. :-( Tell him he has to go at least 5 years. I've been on a Sun 3/80 connected to the internet, that had an uptime over 5 years. If he can't make that, make him down it. d8) Just trying to be helpful. -- ,-_|\ SneakerNet | Andrew Milton | GSM: +61(41)6 022 411 / \ P.O. Box 154 | akm@sneaker.net.au | Fax: +61(2) 9746 8233 \_,-._/ N Strathfield +--+----------------------+---+ Ph: +61(2) 9746 8233 v NSW 2137 | Low cost Internet Solutions | From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 8 18:39:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16137 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from nijntje.NL.net (nijntje.NL.net [193.79.248.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16121 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brendan@nijntje.NL.net) Received: from nijntje.NL.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nijntje.NL.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA07585; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:37:27 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199712090237.DAA07585@nijntje.NL.net> X-Organization: NLnet BV X-Address: Postbus 12954, 1100 AZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 4952727 Fax: +31 20 6655311 X-Mailer: MH 6.8.4 From: Brendan Bank To: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radiusd using a UNIX based SQL server In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:38:46 EST." Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 03:37:26 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Quoting "J. W. Brinkerhoff", on Dec 8 1997 at 15:38 "radiusd us ..."] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Anyone ever set up any varient of radiusd to get user information > (including password, ips, and routes) from an SQL database residing in an > SQL server on a UNIX based machine? > > Jim Brinkerhoff > jwb@tbe.net Hi, Check leo@tunix.kun.nl, he ported mSql into radius. I think he only only stored the user/pw pairs. I hacked DB into the limited edition of the Merrit Radius. But I did that partly in the boss his time so... :). The problem is if you have only 1 radius server or 2 quering 1 sql server you are not realy redudant. We server over 60K dialin accounts and you do not whant to depend on 1 sql server to run 24 hours 365 days a year. So we use more than 1 and copy the db(m) files around the radius servers. -- Brendan From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 07:33:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA10325 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 07:33:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10315; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 07:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00100; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:31:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-question@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Wierd pop problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I use the pop3 daemon from washington.edu. Since the 4.0 versions of IE and Netscape have come out, its been leaving the email on the server, even though their configs say otherwise. I know if the transfer session isnt cleanly closed down the po3 daemon wont mark a message retrieved. Has anyone else had this? Are there any work arounds/fixed? Or better pop daemons? (dont say qualcomm - that thing was a nightmare) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 08:11:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA12868 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:11:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12848 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:10:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfmays@launchpad.win.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) id LAA03028 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:09:42 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: ns1.win.net: nobody set sender to using -f Received: from notebook01.win.net(204.215.209.215) by ns1.win.net via smap (V1.3) id sma002909; Tue Dec 9 11:09:26 1997 Message-ID: <348D6D65.57BC6F0F@launchpad.win.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:10:13 -0500 From: Joe Mays X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Please help make freebsd a supported platform for frontpage UNIX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just finished seeking a minor bit of help with Microsoft on frontpage unix server extensions, and feel like I've been told one too many times, "FreeBSD is not a supported platform. There is nothing I can do to help. If you would like to suggest that FreeBSD be a supported platform go to http://www.microsoft.com/mswish". I've done so, and I wonder if it would have any impact if we could get everyone on this list to request it. Probably not, I suppose, but it certainly can't hurt. They already support BSDI, so the software actually runs fine under FreeBSD, they just won't support it. I see no reason why BSDI and Linux should be supported, and not FreeBSD. Joe Mays From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 09:43:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA18634 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA18624 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18660; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Joe Mays cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please help make freebsd a supported platform for frontpage UNIX In-Reply-To: <348D6D65.57BC6F0F@launchpad.win.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Joe Mays wrote: > platform go to http://www.microsoft.com/mswish". I've done > so, and I wonder if it would have any impact if we could get > everyone on this list to request it. Probably not, I > suppose, but it certainly can't hurt. They already support > BSDI, so the software actually runs fine under FreeBSD, they > just won't support it. I see no reason why BSDI and Linux > should be supported, and not FreeBSD. I did too. Not that I support FrontPage extensions at this time. But someday.......??? ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 10:49:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA23311 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from lepton.nuc.net (lepton.nuc.net [204.49.61.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23299 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wheelman@nuc.net) Received: from electron.nuc.net (dhcp1.nuc.net [204.49.61.15]) by lepton.nuc.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03022; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:48:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <010001bd04d2$bd0e0da0$0f3d31cc@electron.nuc.net> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "Jeff Lynch" , "Joe Mays" Cc: Subject: Re: Please help make freebsd a supported platform for frontpage UNIX Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:46:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> BSDI, so the software actually runs fine under FreeBSD, they >> just won't support it. I see no reason why BSDI and Linux >> should be supported, and not FreeBSD. > >I did too. Not that I support FrontPage extensions at this >time. But someday.......??? Interestingly enough, all they really need to change is the change_server.sh and fp_install.sh scripts (and perhaps a couple other scripts that check the uname) ... The changes to these files (for me) were only 1 line changes, and along with the BSDI (2.x) version of the extensions, I've been up and running just fine for my customers. I've heard the same from many companies though. "FreeBSD doesn't have a large enough userbase to support it directly" ... So, in most cases, we get to choose between BSDI or Linux. Don't worry though. In my small experience, I've seen the FreeBSD userbase increase quite a bit. In fact, I've personally switched many people over to FreeBSD (from Linux), just for the easier maintenance (IMHO), and smoother speed. As the userbase continues to increase, you'll see better support from "commercial" products. Jaime Bozza Nucleus Communications, Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 11:23:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA25626 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA25616 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:23:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18155; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:23:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Andrew Kenneth Milton cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPSd In-Reply-To: <199712090245.NAA12943@mother.sneaker.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > +-----[ Doug White ]------------------------------ > | > | admin of that machine is trying to set some uptime record and won't > | shutdown the box so I can swipe it. :-( > > Tell him he has to go at least 5 years. I've been on a Sun 3/80 > connected to the internet, that had an uptime over 5 years. If he can't make > that, make him down it. d8) I convinced him last night, but I just attached the signal cable to the mailserver it's protecting. The SmartUPS v/s is pretty stupid; I can ask it it's serial number, model, some of the modes, and tell it to shut down, and that's about it. I need the copy of PowerChute v/s that came with it to slap a line monitor onto. I have OS/2 with SIO in the other half of this computer, and AFAIR it comes with an OS/2 version of PowerChute v/s. I was warned the box may be Southern California. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 9 22:55:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA22276 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com (mail@homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA22268 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by homer.duff-beer.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA06147 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:54:53 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 06:54:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Authority records Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The main domain for our company is hosted with another ISP - and after a long struggle have just convinced them to delegate a subdomain to our department for a new service. My question is: Should the NS (authority) records in the subdomain-zone file be the same as the ones our other ISP has chosen - or can I add extra secondaries to the zone and put them in here myself. Will nameservers cache this information on previous lookups in case my server and the secondary our ISP have chosen both go down? I guess the same applies to domains which you get from Internic... but it's easier to get Internic to make changes than our ISP. Thanks for any future feedback. Scot. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 05:01:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11271 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 05:01:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bigbrother.rust.net (bigbrother.rust.net [209.69.72.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA11266 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 05:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@bigbrother.rust.net) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bigbrother.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25658; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:57:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael W. Lucas" Message-Id: <199712101257.HAA25658@bigbrother.rust.net> Subject: Re: Authority records In-Reply-To: from Scot Elliott at "Dec 10, 97 06:54:53 am" To: scot@poptart.org (Scot Elliott) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:57:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott, The master zone has to make any delegation nameserver changes. :( With all this trouble, I'd suggest getting your own domain. ml > The main domain for our company is hosted with another ISP - and after a > long struggle have just convinced them to delegate a subdomain to our > department for a new service. My question is: > > Should the NS (authority) records in the subdomain-zone file be the same > as the ones our other ISP has chosen - or can I add extra secondaries to > the zone and put them in here myself. Will nameservers cache this > information on previous lookups in case my server and the secondary our > ISP have chosen both go down? > > I guess the same applies to domains which you get from Internic... but > it's easier to get Internic to make changes than our ISP. > > Thanks for any future feedback. > > Scot. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 > PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org > or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 12:18:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA14967 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mylanders.com (mylanders.com [206.252.160.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14949 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nmorton@mylanders.com) Received: from localhost (nmorton@localhost) by mylanders.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22863 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:26:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:26:00 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan Morton To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: iijppp routing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a freebsd2.2.1 machine at a office that dials in with the -alias for a network that has about 12 machines. They now want thier other network to be able to get on the Internet also. Would it be possible to use the box with 2 dial out connections: So the network on ed0 was using modem#1 and the network on ed1 was using modem#2? Nathan HIT From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 12:53:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17623 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:53:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from fly.com (fly.com [192.147.46.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17616 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyb@fly.com) Received: from localhost (garyb@localhost) by fly.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA20292 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:54:34 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:54:34 -1000 (HST) From: Gary Blumenstein To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw rule needed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, Can anyone help me define a working rule combination that allows smtp traffic to and from a specific host sitting outside my firewall? By default, I block all ip traffic to the network where this particular host resides, so I want to install a a more specific rule earlier in the chain that preferably defines the port numbers on both the inbound and outbound packet (ie. port 25 and corresponding "ack" response flags on ports > 1024) Thanks for any help! -Gary P.S. Also, is there a FAQ (besides the FreeBSD faq) for this mailing list? I'm a new member. -- garyb@fly.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 13:39:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA21404 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21399 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:38:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA14462; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014460; Wed Dec 10 13:38:21 1997 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id NAA19732; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:38:21 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199712102138.NAA19732@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: ipfw rule needed In-Reply-To: from Gary Blumenstein at "Dec 10, 97 10:54:34 am" To: garyb@fly.com (Gary Blumenstein) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:38:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Blumenstein writes: > Can anyone help me define a working rule combination that allows smtp > traffic to and from a specific host sitting outside my firewall? By > default, I block all ip traffic to the network where this particular host > resides, so I want to install a a more specific rule earlier in the chain > that preferably defines the port numbers on both the inbound and outbound > packet (ie. port 25 and corresponding "ack" response flags on ports > > 1024) If 1.2.3.4 is your mail host and 192.168.1.0/24 is your internal network.. - For connections from inside clients to outside SMTP server: ipfw add 10 allow tcp from 192.168.1.0/24 to 1.2.3.4 25 ipfw add 10 allow tcp from 1.2.3.4 25 to 192.168.1.0/24 established - For connections from outside SMTP server to inside clients: ipfw add 10 allow tcp from 1.2.3.4 to 192.168.1.0/24 25 ipfw add 10 allow tcp from 192.168.1.0/24 25 to 1.2.3.4 established - For both, do all four rules. > P.S. Also, is there a FAQ (besides the FreeBSD faq) for this mailing > list? I'm a new member. Not that I've heard of.. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 13:39:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA21467 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from didda.est.is (ppp-54.est.is [194.144.208.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21456 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from totii@est.is) Received: from est.is (didda.est.is [192.168.255.1]) by didda.est.is (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA00694 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:14:23 GMT (envelope-from totii@est.is) Message-ID: <348F062F.9AD7B805@est.is> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:14:23 +0000 From: "Þorður Ivarsson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: upsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have UPS from Fairstone that I would like to connect to my FreeBSD machine at home. The interface of the Ups is very simple and does only have ON/OFF signaling to inform the state of the UPS. The interface port pinout is : pin 2 - AC failure (Normal Open) pin 3 - AC failure (Normal Close) pin 4 - Common pin 5 - Battery Low pin 6 - Remote shutdown pin 7 - Common Do you know of any UPSd that support interface like this ? -- Þórður Ívarsson Thordur Ivarsson Rafeindavirki Electronic technician Norðurgötu 30 Nordurgotu 30 Box 309 Box 309 602 Akureyri 602 Akureyri Ísland Iceland --------------------------------------------- FreeBSD has good features, Some others are full of unwanted features! --------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 13:45:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA21918 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21911 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:45:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02734 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:25:21 GMT Message-ID: <348F0E8C.6300F790@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:50:04 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw rule needed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try: ipfw add allow tcp from xx.xx.xx.xx 1023-65535 to yy.yy.yy.yy 23 ipfw add allow tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy 23 to xx.xx.xx.xx 1023-65535 established ipfw add allow tcp from yy.yy.yy.yy 1023-65535 to xx.xx.xx.xx 23 ipfw add allow tcp from xx.xx.xx.xx 23 to yy.yy.yy.yy 1023-65535 established Where xx.xx.xx.xx = Remote Specific Host and yy.yy.yy.yy is your Host on your Network (that was previously blocked). This should allow SMTP in / out from / to the machines you require... Kp Gary Blumenstein wrote: > > Folks, > > Can anyone help me define a working rule combination that allows smtp > traffic to and from a specific host sitting outside my firewall? By > default, I block all ip traffic to the network where this particular host > resides, so I want to install a a more specific rule earlier in the chain > that preferably defines the port numbers on both the inbound and outbound > packet (ie. port 25 and corresponding "ack" response flags on ports > > 1024) > > Thanks for any help! > > -Gary > > P.S. Also, is there a FAQ (besides the FreeBSD faq) for this mailing > list? I'm a new member. > > -- > garyb@fly.com From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 10 17:26:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14356 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:26:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-003coauroP03.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA14350 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bminazzi@denverweb.net) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00598 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:27:11 -0700 Message-ID: <348F416E.11F5202@denverweb.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:27:10 -0700 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw info please. References: <348F0E8C.6300F790@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know how much overhead ipfw uses? ( Broad question I know, but some idea would be helpful. ) Thank You, Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 06:04:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA14324 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from hoima (hoima.i-way.co.uk [194.129.192.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA14285 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@duff-beer.com) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com by hoima via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI) for id OAA06092; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:03:27 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:03:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Routing to multihomed hosts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just set a new server up at our ISP - on three backbones to cope with network outages. The A record for the host has all three IP addresses... so that presumably any client will choose one at random and then try the others if the connect fails. This is all very well - but it also means that the client may not be taking the most direct route to our host. Is there any way to make the client try the shortest route first.. and is this even desirable? I seems to be something that should happen for efficiency's sake but I have no clue if it's possible. My concern is that on one occasion a client will see a fast throughput because the closest address was chosen - but on another will see poor response because his resolver chose another address that got routed via Outer Mongolia or somewhere equally far away. Thanks in advance for any input. Scot. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 08:18:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23246 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from iectech.com (netgate.iectech.com [198.136.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23239 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from CPELTIER@iectech.com) Received: by netgate.iectech.com id <6196>; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:56:14 -0500 From: Chris Peltier To: "'Scot Elliott'" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Routing to multihomed hosts Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:07:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 47 TEXT Message-Id: <97Dec11.065614est.6196@netgate.iectech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Elliott wrote: > >I've just set a new server up at our ISP - on three backbones to cope >with >network outages. The A record for the host has all three IP >addresses... >so that presumably any client will choose one at random and then try >the >others if the connect fails. > >This is all very well - but it also means that the client may not be >taking the most direct route to our host. Is there any way to make the >client try the shortest route first.. and is this even desirable? I >seems >to be something that should happen for efficiency's sake but I have no >clue if it's possible. My concern is that on one occasion a client >will >see a fast throughput because the closest address was chosen - but on >another will see poor response because his resolver chose another >address >that got routed via Outer Mongolia or somewhere equally far away. You need to maintain BGP peering sessions with routers on each of these three gateways. This way an Autonomous System (AS) Path is built and clients (hopefully if local preferences anywhere along the way don't interfere) will follow the shortest, available path to you. If you have multiple paths to the same ISP or AS then things get trickier requiring the use of their IGP metrics (MEDS) to select the best outgoing path. On FreeBSD the Gated 3.5.7 Port provides BGP routing functions. Also see the Merit Gated Page at http://www.gated.org . Gated 3.5.8 just came out a couple of days ago.... If you don't want to do this you could have each ISP or AS build and advertise static routes for you for each network block that you use within your network. This will work the same way as above unless one of your links go down. Then all traffic with this short AS will be blackholed and connectivity for some clients will be lost. Sincerely, Chris Peltier * email: CPELTIER@IECTECH.COM * voice: 215-257-4917 * FAX: 215-257-4916 > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 09:46:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29857 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:46:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29834 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA06166 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:46:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971211104409.0098f380@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:44:09 -0600 To: FreeBSD ISP list From: Jack Wenger Subject: Makemap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP! I just did a stupid. I added an entry to my virtusertable and did: makemap hash ./virtusertable > ./virtusertable destroying my virtusertable. Is there any way I can get the information back out of virtusertable.db? It's a 32k file with todays date. No, I don't have any backup yet (bad sysadmin, BAD). I have no way to tell what's in the table anymore. ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 10:44:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA04078 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from teel.info-noire.com (XP11-1-4-06.interlinx.qc.ca [207.253.79.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04065 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@gel.usherb.ca) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by teel.info-noire.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21150; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:52:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alex@teel.info-noire.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:51:37 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Boisvert Reply-To: boia01@gel.usherb.ca To: Jack Wenger cc: FreeBSD ISP list Subject: Re: Makemap In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971211104409.0098f380@acw-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Jack Wenger wrote: > HELP! > I just did a stupid. I added an entry to my virtusertable and did: > > makemap hash ./virtusertable > ./virtusertable > > destroying my virtusertable. > Is there any way I can get the information back out of virtusertable.db? You can install the port called "db", which is newer version of db (FreeBSD's default is v1.85, the most recent version is v2.3.11, I think). Included in this port is a utility called "db_dump185" which will do what you want. You'll have to compile the port... After that, try something like: host% db_dump185 -p /etc/virtusertable.db to see your file resurected in ASCII form. Good luck, Alex Boisvert. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 11:07:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA05937 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:07:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from lithium.dowco.com (lithium.dowco.com [207.23.88.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA05929 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:07:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dphinney@dowco.com) Received: (from dphinney@localhost) by lithium.dowco.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/CF.6) id LAA08639; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:05:47 -0800 (PST) From: David K Phinney Message-Id: <199712111905.LAA08639@lithium.dowco.com> Subject: Re: Makemap To: info@bentreality.com (Jack Wenger) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:05:46 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971211104409.0098f380@acw-web.com> from Jack Wenger at "Dec 11, 97 10:44:09 am" X-PGP-Key-Url: http://www.dowco.com/~dphinney/pgpkey.txt X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, You can try this script (you need Berkeley DB support in your Perl 5): use DB_File; use Fcntl; tie %vuser, "DB_File", "/etc/virtusertable.db", O_RDONLY, 0666 || die "tie: $!\n"; while (($key, $value) = each %vuser) { print "$key\t\t$value\n"; } untie %vuser; Granted, the output's not very pretty looking... Regards, --dave David K. Phinney Systems/Network Manager (604) 606-5728 dowco.com internet dave@dowco.com > HELP! > I just did a stupid. I added an entry to my virtusertable and did: > > makemap hash ./virtusertable > ./virtusertable > > destroying my virtusertable. > Is there any way I can get the information back out of virtusertable.db? > It's a 32k file with todays date. No, I don't have any backup yet (bad > sysadmin, BAD). > I have no way to tell what's in the table anymore. > > > ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- > Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner > info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com > 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 > IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 11:39:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08353 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08345 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA06471 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:33:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971211123058.00971b00@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:30:59 -0600 To: FreeBSD ISP list From: Jack Wenger Subject: Re: Makemap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanx to all the replies. Unfortunately, I have to rebuild the mail map by hand. When I made the > typo, it whacked the table also. Look out Best Buy, I agettin' a tape drive! At 10:44 AM 12/11/97 -0600, Jack Wenger wrote: >HELP! >I just did a stupid. I added an entry to my virtusertable and did: > >makemap hash ./virtusertable > ./virtusertable > >destroying my virtusertable. >Is there any way I can get the information back out of virtusertable.db? >It's a 32k file with todays date. No, I don't have any backup yet (bad >sysadmin, BAD). >I have no way to tell what's in the table anymore. > > >------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- > Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner > info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com > 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 > IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist > > ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 12:30:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12271 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (root@ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12262 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02701 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:06:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199712112006.PAA02701@ns1.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: radius and realms Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone got the radius port (2.4.23) to work using realms? I've edited the 'authfile' to include a couple of realms and want them to foward radius requests to a different radius server. It just doesn't seem to play. It just gives access denied. *sigh* The log file had some info, but really wasn't much more enlightening (probably based on my lack of understanding of what is really happening underneath). Clues? -Steve From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 13:24:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16590 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:24:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16583 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:24:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11505; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id QAA27620; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:24:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199712112124.QAA27620@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: radius and realms To: steve@ns1.cioe.com (Steve Ames) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:24:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199712112006.PAA02701@ns1.cioe.com> from "Steve Ames" at Dec 11, 97 03:06:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Steve Ames: > > Has anyone got the radius port (2.4.23) to work using realms? > > I've edited the 'authfile' to include a couple of realms > and want them to foward radius requests to a different radius > server. It just doesn't seem to play. It just gives access > denied. *sigh* > > The log file had some info, but really wasn't much more enlightening > (probably based on my lack of understanding of what is really > happening underneath). I would be glad to help you configure our Merit AAA Server... :-) And help you decode the stuff in the logfile, too! Send email to aaa-support@merit.edu for questions like this. For a realm xyz, you would place a line like the following into the 'authfile': xyz RADIUS Where is the DNS name (host name) or IP address of another RADIUS server which knows how to handle user names such as "jane.doe@xyz" because that user name is what your Merit AAA Server is getting (or else why are you asking this particular question)... :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 647-3185 [ What's all this fuss about the end of the century causing mission critial ] [ programs to crash due to bad dates? If people simply started using Roman ] [ Numerials, the problem goes away! MCM = 1900 MCMXCIX = 1999 MM = 2000 ] From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 16:14:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA27202 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-008coauroP10.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA27186 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:14:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bminazzi@denverweb.net) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02101; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:15:14 -0700 Message-ID: <34908211.227EA38F@denverweb.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:15:13 -0700 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wenger CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makemap References: <3.0.32.19971211123058.00971b00@acw-web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You hastely decided... >> Look out Best Buy, I agettin' a tape drive! WAIT. I would reccomend that you get a DAT, 8mm, or other higher end scsi drive. Ponder and ruminate on this. Everything is fine... You are backing up your data on your "consumer end low level el cheapo tape drive bargain de jour. " The stars come in to alignment, murphy gets a weekend pass, and monday finds your hard drive has let the magic smoke out of the little epoxy cages. You try to stuff all the magic smoke back in, but, missing a few molecules, you end up replacing drive.... Now is _NOT_ a good time to find that your tape drive is no bargain, and some of your bits and bytes are not really on that tape you have been feeding into the machine. Decide now how many dollars that data is worth, and how long it would take to rebuild manually. Then consider if a cheap tape drive is worth the risk.... Most of these drives are kinda like a cheap motorcycle helmet. Better than nothing, but on the way to the pavement, your REALLY wishin you had bought a bell. Just my .02 ( After seeing too many customers make this mistake, and wanting to know why I cant get the data off of the tape for them. ) Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 17:53:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03908 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:53:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com (wicked.eaznet.com [209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03902 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (as1-15.eaznet.com [209.75.156.219]) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14650 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:57:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34909B37.16ACC35E@eaznet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:02:32 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makemap References: <3.0.32.19971211123058.00971b00@acw-web.com> <34908211.227EA38F@denverweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would have to agree with Blaine. Get a drive you can rely on. If the price tag scares you, get a used one. I'm sure there are plenty available. All you have to do is ask! Eddie Blaine Minazzi wrote: > You hastely decided... > >> Look out Best Buy, I agettin' a tape drive! > > WAIT. > > I would reccomend that you get a DAT, 8mm, or other higher end scsi > drive. > > Ponder and ruminate on this. Everything is fine... You are backing up > your data on your "consumer end low level el cheapo tape drive bargain > de jour. " The stars come in to alignment, murphy gets a weekend pass, > and monday finds your hard drive has let the magic smoke out of the > little epoxy cages. You try to stuff all the magic smoke back in, but, > missing a few molecules, you end up replacing drive.... > > Now is _NOT_ a good time to find that your tape drive is no bargain, and > some of your bits and bytes are not really on that tape you have been > feeding into the machine. > > Decide now how many dollars that data is worth, and how long it would > take to rebuild manually. Then consider if a cheap tape drive is worth > the risk.... > > Most of these drives are kinda like a cheap motorcycle helmet. > Better than nothing, but on the way to the pavement, your REALLY wishin > you had bought a bell. > > Just my .02 > > ( After seeing too many customers make this mistake, and wanting to know > why I cant get the data off of the tape for them. ) > > Blaine -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services http://www.eaznet.com 220 West 7th Street (520) 348-0292 Safford, AZ 85546 EAZing you into the future... There is only one success -- to be able to spend your life in your own way. -Christopher Morley From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 11 19:41:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA11156 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:41:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA11143 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA07766; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:40:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971211203759.0098fe30@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:38:00 -0600 To: Eddie Fry , isp@freebsd.org From: Jack Wenger Subject: Re: Makemap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Geez, guys, I was kidding! :) I REALLY appreciate the concern displayed for a fellow sysadmin here! Thank You. But, there's now way, even with a gun to my head (well...) I would buy a cheap tape system, like a Colorado. The Best Buy remark was just a joke, I was hoping to lighten everyone's day a little. So, that said, there was this Priest, a Rabbi, and an Elvis Impersonator one day... :) Thanx again for the quick help. At 07:02 PM 12/11/97 -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: >I would have to agree with Blaine. Get a drive you can rely on. If the >price tag scares you, get a used one. I'm sure there are plenty available. >All you have to do is ask! > >Eddie > >Blaine Minazzi wrote: > >> You hastely decided... >> >> Look out Best Buy, I agettin' a tape drive! >> >> WAIT. >> >> I would reccomend that you get a DAT, 8mm, or other higher end scsi >> drive. >> >> Ponder and ruminate on this. Everything is fine... You are backing up >> your data on your "consumer end low level el cheapo tape drive bargain >> de jour. " The stars come in to alignment, murphy gets a weekend pass, >> and monday finds your hard drive has let the magic smoke out of the >> little epoxy cages. You try to stuff all the magic smoke back in, but, >> missing a few molecules, you end up replacing drive.... >> >> Now is _NOT_ a good time to find that your tape drive is no bargain, and >> some of your bits and bytes are not really on that tape you have been >> feeding into the machine. >> >> Decide now how many dollars that data is worth, and how long it would >> take to rebuild manually. Then consider if a cheap tape drive is worth >> the risk.... >> >> Most of these drives are kinda like a cheap motorcycle helmet. >> Better than nothing, but on the way to the pavement, your REALLY wishin >> you had bought a bell. >> >> Just my .02 >> >> ( After seeing too many customers make this mistake, and wanting to know >> why I cant get the data off of the tape for them. ) >> >> Blaine > > > >-- >Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com >EAZNet Internet Services http://www.eaznet.com >220 West 7th Street (520) 348-0292 >Safford, AZ 85546 EAZing you into the future... >There is only one success -- to be able to spend your life in your own way. > -Christopher Morley > > > > ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 08:27:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01879 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com (wicked.eaznet.com [209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01870 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from eddie@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA16978; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:31:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971212093104.53536@wicked.eaznet.com.> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:31:04 -0700 From: Eddie Fry To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: rc.conf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74e Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running 2.2.2 and have a problem with the rc.conf file. It seems everytime I use /stand/sysinstall the remarks in rc.conf get duplicated. ie: swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." ... I don't have any idea what causes this. Anybody?? Thanks, Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 10:12:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10419 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (root@magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10412 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:11:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (root@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id NAA09387 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA15499 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:59:29 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199712121759.MAA15499@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Makemap To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:59:29 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently Jack Wenger said: > Thanx to all the replies. Unfortunately, I have to rebuild the mail map by > hand. When I made the > typo, it whacked the table also. Look out Best Buy, > I agettin' a tape drive! Why should you have to run makemap by hand. On this machine I have only the mailertable script (below) while on other I have these simple one line scripts for others including virtusertable. It's quick, easy, and prevents you from making mistreaks :-) (Boy was it LONG one yesterday - got home at 4AM but the client was ready to when they opened at 6:30) Type this in and make it executebable. #!/bin/sh makemap -v hash /etc/mailertable Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA18840 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA18833 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deichert@ts.shopnet.com) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id MAA23737; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:50:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:50:25 -0700 (MST) From: Diana X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rc.conf In-Reply-To: <19971212093104.53536@wicked.eaznet.com.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have seen the same problem, I't seems to occur after adding a package via sysinstall. diana On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Eddie Fry wrote: > I'm running 2.2.2 and have a problem with the rc.conf file. It seems everytime I use /stand/sysinstall the remarks in rc.conf get duplicated. ie: > > swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." ... > > I don't have any idea what causes this. Anybody?? > > Thanks, > > Eddie > Diana Eichert IT Manager McKinley Paper Company deeiche@mckinleypaper.com Tele: 505/290-0153 PGP public key finger: deichert@ts.shopnet.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 12:33:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22253 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:33:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gkbkup2.bridge.com (firewall-user@gkbkup2.bridge.com [167.76.159.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22248 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:33:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhughes@logroad.bridge.com) Received: by gkbkup2.bridge.com; id OAA21587; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from dns1srv.bridge.com(167.76.56.13) by gkbkup2.bridge.com via smap (3.2) id xma021540; Fri, 12 Dec 97 14:33:12 -0600 Received: from logroad.bridge.com (logroad.bridge.com [167.76.15.21]) by dns1srv.bridge.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25367; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by logroad.bridge.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03842; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:05 -0600 From: mhughes@logroad.bridge.com (Michael Hughes) Message-Id: <199712122033.OAA03842@logroad.bridge.com> Subject: Re: rc.conf To: deichert@wrench.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:05 -0600 (CST) Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Diana" at Dec 12, 97 12:50:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This has been fixed in 2.2.5. Diana said in email to me: > > I have seen the same problem, I't seems to occur after adding a package > via sysinstall. > > diana > > On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Eddie Fry wrote: > > > I'm running 2.2.2 and have a problem with the rc.conf file. It seems everytime I use /stand/sysinstall the remarks in rc.conf get duplicated. ie: > > > > swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." ... > > > > I don't have any idea what causes this. Anybody?? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Eddie > > > > > Diana Eichert > IT Manager > McKinley Paper Company > deeiche@mckinleypaper.com > Tele: 505/290-0153 > PGP public key finger: deichert@ts.shopnet.com > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ _ _ _ , Loghome living is the ' ) ) ) / // ' ) / / best ! / / / o _. /_ __. _ // /--/ . . _, /_ _ _ / ' (_<_(__/ /_(_/|_ Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23668 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-008coauroP10.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23659 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bminazzi@denverweb.net) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03987 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:52:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3491A3F9.83C9BFF@denverweb.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:52:09 -0700 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freeBSD.org Subject: Dennis? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Looking for the guy that has the bandwidth limiting software. ( Dennis? ) Give me an e-mail please. Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 12:55:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23976 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23970 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bofh@terranova.net) Received: from P1mpBSD.TerraNova.net (tog@guenhwyvar.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.8/TerraNovaNet) with SMTP id PAA12971 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:55:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3491A55B.7C66@terranova.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:58:03 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Diana wrote: > > I have seen the same problem, I't seems to occur after adding a package > via sysinstall. > > diana > > On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Eddie Fry wrote: > > > I'm running 2.2.2 and have a problem with the rc.conf file. It seems everytime I use /stand/sysinstall the remarks in rc.conf get duplicated. ie: > > > > swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired." ... > > > > I don't have any idea what causes this. Anybody?? I'd tell you to check the ERRATA.TXT but I don't think 2.2.2-RELEASE is there anymore.. Basically the sysinstall that comes with 2.2.2-RELEASE scrambles the rc.conf just like you said; the fix is to get a later sysinstall. You should probably consider upgrading to 2.2.5 or not using sysinstall to install ports/packages :) If you really don't like that solution I can post an updated sysinstall for you. (BTW, this may have been more appropriate for freebsd-questions) Have a good one, -T -- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.terranova.net/ ---------------------------------------------- "Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion, Rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western science." -- Gary Zukav, "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 13:34:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA27147 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com (wicked.eaznet.com [209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27142 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA24660; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:38:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971212143829.31457@wicked.eaznet.com.> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:38:29 -0700 From: Charlie & To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading (was rc.conf) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74e Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I guess I'll upgrade to 2.2.5 to fix the rc.conf problem (and get the latest and greatest as well). I have the 2.2.5 CD's. What's the best way to go about upgrading? What are the potential pitfalls, etc? This probably belongs in the questions list... Sorry. Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 13:59:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA28807 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28797 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:59:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03081; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:59:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:59:36 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Blaine Minazzi cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dennis? In-Reply-To: <3491A3F9.83C9BFF@denverweb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > Looking for the guy that has the bandwidth limiting software. > ( Dennis? ) > > Give me an e-mail please. > > Blaine > dennis@etinc.com works great. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 12 14:31:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA00931 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:31:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00916 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bofh@terranova.net) Received: from P1mpBSD.TerraNova.net (tog@guenhwyvar.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.8/TerraNovaNet) with SMTP id RAA15440; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:31:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3491BBC2.45A4@terranova.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:33:38 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Charlie Root!" CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading (was rc.conf) References: <19971212143829.31457@wicked.eaznet.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charlie & wrote: > > I guess I'll upgrade to 2.2.5 to fix the rc.conf problem (and get the latest > and greatest as well). I have the 2.2.5 CD's. What's the best way to go > about upgrading? What are the potential pitfalls, etc? I would suggest using CVSup (the static binary.) check out http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook229.html -T -- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.terranova.net/ ---------------------------------------------- "Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion, Rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western science." -- Gary Zukav, "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 13 12:01:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11236 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu (ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11231 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpeer@ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu) Received: from mpeer (mpeer.csc.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.100]) by ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04193 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpeer@ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971213120651.00b11550@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu> X-Sender: mpeer@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:06:51 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Peer Subject: Recommendations on multiport 10/100 ethernet cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I read the FreeBSD FAQ and documentation that talks about a 4 port ethernet card with a DEC chip set, but I can't find anyone that will sell them, or match their model numbers with the ones on the support list. I know adaptec has bought cogent and has a four port card that will do 10/100 Adaptec ANA-6944A/TX and a ANA-6922A/TX. I know the cards are capable of full duplex 100Mb, and I will never be able to get a box to max out all 4 ports full duplex, but it doesn't have to. My questions: Can I use these cards? any comments? Any recommendations, horror stories, suggestions Thanks alot. Please cc me via e-mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Peer Data Electronics Technician I Golden West College Computer Services Center 15744 Goldenwest St. Huntington Beach, CA 92647 e-mail: mpeer@gwc.cccd.edu Voice: (714)892-7711 ext 55067 WWW: http://pioneer.gwc.cccd.edu FAX: (714)895-8980 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 13 12:03:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11340 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from netserv.com.br (server.netserv.com.br [200.230.41.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11328 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rromero@netfriendly.com) Received: by netserv.com.br from localhost (router,SLMail V2.6); Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:56:17 -0200 Received: by netserv.com.br from netfriendly.com (200.230.141.40::mail daemon; unverified,SLMail V2.6); Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:56:15 -0200 Message-ID: <3492EA8B.5721C834@netfriendly.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 18:05:32 -0200 From: Ricardo Romero Organization: NetFriendly Solucoes em Conectividade Ltda. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe