From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 11:50:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23932 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23904 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26938 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:49:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703231949.MAA26938@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Modified clients for bt848 driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:49:55 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, --- I've updated xtvremote to use the new tuner minor-mode feature: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/xtvr.970323.tar.gz --- A patch to allow fxtv-0.3.1 work with the new tuner minor-mode feature: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/fxtv.patch.aa -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 14:58:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04888 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04880 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA21417 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:58:39 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with SMTP id IAA04041 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:51:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id WAA10254 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:51:51 GMT Message-Id: <199703232251.WAA10254@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: OSS FreeBSD announced!!!! (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:51:51 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- Forwarded Message Received: from ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id VAA09528 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:38:04 GMT From: front4@ix.netcom.com Received: by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) id HAA01020 for sysseh@dtir.qld.gov.au; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:37:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13926 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:34:48 +1000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27764 for sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:34:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:34:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from lax-ca20-15.ix.netcom.com(204.31.253.79) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma027748; Sun Mar 23 15:33:50 1997 To: sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au Message-Id: <199732313375120037@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: 4Front Guestbook Entry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 03/20/97 13:48:21 you wrote: > > > Hi, > >FreeBSD 2.2 has been announced and is now being shipped - are you still on >track for the OSS driver's release? > Hi, OSS/FreeBSD is being announced on March 24th. You will be able to download the 1st beta version of these drivers beginning on March 23. Best regards, Dev Mazumdar ======================================================== 4Front Technologies 11698 Montana Ave. Suite 12. Los Angeles, CA 90049 Tel: (310) 820 7365 Web:http://www.4front-tech.com Fax: (310) 826 2465 EMail: dev@4front-tech.com ======================================================== ------- End of Forwarded Message -- The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 17:07:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14994 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14987 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17677; Sun, 23 Mar 97 20:07:07 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA15822; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:04:22 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323200422.10997@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:04:22 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Steve Passe Subject: FXTV 0.3.2 (Re: First Cut at separating tuner and capture devices) References: <199703230608.XAA18434@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <199703230637.XAA18805@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=HFwDpU9dbj6ez1VG X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703230637.XAA18805@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Sat, Mar 22, 1997 at 11:37:41PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --HFwDpU9dbj6ez1VG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Appreciate the Fxtv updates Steve. I've rolled them into the posted version at along with a few other misc fixes. BTW, here's a patch for the 970322 version of the driver to fix returning incorrect values from the GHUE and GBRIG ioctls. I've put temporary fixups in fxtv to account for this so folks can just use the posted driver for now. Randall --HFwDpU9dbj6ez1VG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bt848.970322-GBRI-GHUE.patch" --- brooktree848.c-970322 Sun Mar 23 05:29:51 1997 +++ brooktree848.c Sun Mar 23 18:01:21 1997 @@ -1056,7 +1056,7 @@ break; case BT848_GHUE: /* get hue */ - *(int*)arg = bt848[BKTR_HUE] & 0xff; + *(int*)arg = (signed char) (bt848[BKTR_HUE] & 0xff); break; /* brightness is a 2's compliment #, -50 to +%49.6% in 0.39% steps */ @@ -1065,7 +1065,7 @@ break; case BT848_GBRIG: /* get brightness */ - *(int *)arg = bt848[BKTR_BRIGHT] & 0xff; + *(int *)arg = (signed char) (bt848[BKTR_BRIGHT] & 0xff); break; /* */ --HFwDpU9dbj6ez1VG-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 18:05:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18608 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18599 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18336; Sun, 23 Mar 97 21:04:40 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA15892; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:53 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323210152.33663@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:52 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Steve Passe Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changes for Audio control on the bt848 code References: <199703211842.KAA00387@rah.star-gate.com> <199703211908.MAA23449@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703211908.MAA23449@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 12:08:57PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe: |definately. I just added Randall's Notify Event code to cause xtvremote |to track changes to controls made by fxtv. Works fine, but I think it should |be taken a step further. I don't know how this is traditionally done in |X, so I will describe it generically. | |CONTROL_CLIENT: any program wanting to cooperate in the use of the | picture control ioctl()s. | |each CONTROL_CLIENT registers itself with the kernel via an ioctl() | |whenever any of the picture control values change via ioctl()s each |registered CONTROL_CLIENT is sent a signal by the kernel (say SIG_USR1). | |each CONTROL_CLIENT responds to the signal by updateing its local values. | |comments? (Just now sitting down to catch up on my filtered list mail folders...) I think some sort of async driver notification of value changes to driver clients would be nice, but using signals is problematic with X as it isn't reentrant. To process a signal safely, you end up just setting a global that's checked when you get back to the main event loop anyway, so other approaches would work as well. The capture process also imposes a reasonable interrupt load on the system that we probably don't want to stress by kicking off signals to N clients 30 times a second when, for example, the user slides a value scrollbar for Hue around. Since we already have a file descriptor open for read to the capture device (and now also the tuner device), what about having the driver write out value changes to the open driver file descriptor. X clients can just XtAppAddInput on the driver file descriptors, and when they swing around into the main event loop next, their AddInput callbacks will fire and they can slurp off all the queued value changes since they slurped last and update accordingly. Since we're not in a signal handler, it's safe to use X calls. And since all queued updates can be slurped off at once, we can compress the GUI updates required down very easily (e.g. if hue has updated 30 times since we last swung through the loop, just do one GUI update for the last one). Also since each client has its own file pointer, they can all slurp updates at their own rate (input style like pipes and sockets, with no random access in the stream allowed). What do you think? Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 18:34:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19773 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA19768 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18655; Sun, 23 Mar 97 21:33:06 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA15912; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:30:20 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323213019.39276@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:30:19 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changes for Audio control on the bt848 code References: <199703211751.KAA22398@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <199703211842.KAA00387@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703211842.KAA00387@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 10:42:22AM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |3. Maybe a motif client . I have not tried this out yet however it | looks promising: Motif is sure a nice toolkit (develop with it at work) and I'd prefer to use it. But since we're in the free software business, I'd hate to burden users with having to go buy Motif to use the program, or have to ship statically linked binaries. And from what I hear, the Motif clones (Lesstiff, etc.) aren't quite up to it yet. For what we need, I bet Athena, FWF, and the other free widget libraries are probably going to be sufficient. | lxb 0.5 - X/Motif GUI Builder Thanks for the ptr--I'll check out the new version. I tried 0.4 a few weeks ago and couldn't get the simplest widget tree built -- core dumped right and left. But things surely have improved. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 18:47:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20400 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20392 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18810; Sun, 23 Mar 97 21:46:21 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA15927; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:43:34 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323214334.17731@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:43:34 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Steve Passe , Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Changes for Audio control on the bt848 code References: <199703211842.KAA00387@rah.star-gate.com> <199703211908.MAA23449@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <19970323210152.33663@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <19970323210152.33663@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Mar 23, 1997 at 09:01:52PM -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Its a bad habit to get intro replying to yourself, but... Randall Hopper: |Steve Passe: | |whenever any of the picture control values change via ioctl()s each | |registered CONTROL_CLIENT is sent a signal by the kernel (say SIG_USR1). |Since we already have a file descriptor open for read to the capture device |(and now also the tuner device), what about having the driver write out |value changes to the open driver file descriptor. X clients can just On second thought, buffers could fill up. Maybe just using activity on the file descriptor for the "value changed" signaling aspect, and then the client reading updated values via ioctl or mmaped parameter buffer. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 18:55:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20686 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20677 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01722 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:55:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703240255.TAA01722@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changes for Audio control on the bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:30:19 EST." <19970323213019.39276@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:55:36 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Amancio Hasty: > |3. Maybe a motif client . I have not tried this out yet however it > | looks promising: > > Motif is sure a nice toolkit (develop with it at work) and I'd prefer to > use it. But since we're in the free software business, I'd hate to burden > users with having to go buy Motif to use the program, or have to ship > statically linked binaries. And from what I hear, the Motif clones this is my thinking, and why I used the FWF widgets for xtvremote. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 19:30:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22594 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22586 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19349; Sun, 23 Mar 97 22:29:09 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA15970; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:26:22 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323222621.04526@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:26:21 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse control? References: <199703211929.LAA00804@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703211929.LAA00804@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 11:29:16AM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |For those who are doing apps , it may be nice to bind buttons to the |applications for the purpose of controlling the tuner. Sounds like a good idea. In a future version, I'd been planning on providing for binding keyboard keys to specific functions (channel, volume, etc.) so full-screen-no-widgets mode is more friendly. I'll generalize this to creating generic action routines that can be bound to events of choice (mouse buttons, keyboard keys, ...whatever) via app-default file translations resources. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 19:43:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23366 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23360 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19514; Sun, 23 Mar 97 22:41:56 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA15990; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:39:09 -0500 Message-Id: <19970323223907.02023@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:39:07 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Multimedia Mailing List Archival and Web Interface? References: <199703212121.OAA24938@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <199703212129.NAA01968@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703212129.NAA01968@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 01:29:12PM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |Oh, an interface which we can use 8) I really hate the search engine |used on that web page and it is very, very close to be totally worthless. | |From The Desk Of Steve Passe : |> the multimedia mail archive is already available via the FreeBSD mail |> search page... What specifically do you have in mind? Second that one Amancio. Also, the archive isn't updated very often. Searches I made Friday on the multimedia list section show its vacant for the period of mid Jan to the present. A threaded searcher would be nice. What's there now is very slow, the fetches are always per-message, and message fetching is slower the higher you set your max-messages-to-retrieve, further testing one's patience. If you're trying to follow a thread, you hit max-messages, and you didn't notice before starting to browse, you need to requery with a higher max-messages and filter through all those with the same subject again to get to the new ones. Date ranges would be nice too. As it is, I ended up writing a perl script a while back that I could key in a subject and list of groups, and it'd sit and milk the archives dry for every matching message and put it in a mailbox-format file. Then I can use mutt (my mailer of choice) and do a nice, threaded, context- and syntax-colored read of the messages -- what I really wanted to start with. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 23 21:05:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26526 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26516 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA03106 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:04:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703240504.WAA03106@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: i2c code in bt848 driver. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:04:49 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, so no one else bothers, I got the hardware version of the i2c driver working today. It removes alot of ugly code that I previously wrote. Seems to work well, and is about 10 times faster! I'm also able to reliably read the EEProm now, wish we had some idea of what is in it... I will merge it in after Louie finishes his pass. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 04:10:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04164 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA04158 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 7:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26786; Mon, 24 Mar 97 07:00:44 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA16615; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:57:38 -0500 Message-Id: <19970324065737.37629@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:57:37 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org, Michael Petry , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Richard Tobin , Steve Passe , Christoph Kukulies , Luigi Rizzo , Amancio Hasty , Doug White , Thomas Arnold Subject: bt848-user video card survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm shopping for a new video card and wonder if I could get your help. If you have a video card you've been using with the Wincast or the STB capture boards that has these features, sure would appreciate it if you would drop me the make and model. - At least 1280x1024x16bpp if not 24/32bpp (so 4 Meg of mem or more) - Wincast or STB card works well on it doing direct video at that res - Stable XFree drivers - High refresh rate (>= 65-70 Hz @ 1280x1024) Of course stable drivers for MSW95 would be a plus, for the small amount I'll need to boot into it. Dayton Computerfest is coming up this weekend, and I'm hunting for this new video card and a >= 17in monitor (monitor recommendations welcome as well). Thanks in advance, Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 07:37:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14017 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14012 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00472; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:36:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703241536.KAA00472@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, Michael Petry , Richard Tobin , Steve Passe , Christoph Kukulies , Luigi Rizzo , Amancio Hasty , Doug White , Thomas Arnold From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: bt848-user video card survey References: <19970324065737.37629@ct.picker.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:57:37 EST." <19970324065737.37629@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:36:41 -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm using a #9 Motion 771 video board, with 4MB of VRAM. It's based on the S3-968, and mine has an IBM 220MHz RAMDAC on-board. I'm told that there are differing RAMDACs on the these boards, depending on OEM version or not, but I've not observed it. I'm running the board at 1152x900, at a 110MHz dot clock. According to xvidtune, I'm running 73.92 kHz horizontal refresh, 79.57 Hz vertical refresh rate. The XFree86 3.2 version of the X server support 32 bits per pixel (8/8/8), which I think precludes 1280x1024. I think that future versions will support the 24 bits per pixed packed mode, but we'll need to fix up the brooktree driver to accomodate that.. Obviously, the PCI to PCI bus transfer from my Wincast/TV works pretty well. The Win95 drivers are also pretty nifty. louie i'm running with a 79.57 Hz vertical refresh, 7 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 07:57:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15169 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15164 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03304; Mon, 24 Mar 97 10:44:46 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA20309; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:41:46 -0500 Message-Id: <19970324104146.32372@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:41:46 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, Michael Petry , Richard Tobin , Steve Passe , Christoph Kukulies , Luigi Rizzo , Amancio Hasty , Doug White , Thomas Arnold Subject: Re: bt848-user video card survey References: <19970324065737.37629@ct.picker.com> <199703241536.KAA00472@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703241536.KAA00472@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Mon, Mar 24, 1997 at 10:36:41AM -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |I'm using a #9 Motion 771 video board, with 4MB of VRAM. It's based on Thanks for the info Louie. I'll check it out. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 09:16:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19025 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19020 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10710; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:15:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703241715.KAA10710@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848-user video card survey In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 06:57:37 EST." <19970324065737.37629@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:15:57 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I'm shopping for a new video card and wonder if I could get your help. > ... I use diamond stealth 64 video vram cars on several systems, including the one in which I use the (previous) STB card and the (new) wincast card. I'm doing 1024x768x16 on it for lack of 4 meg (2 more meg are in the mail). Unfortunately you can only get 1152x864x24/32 with 4 meg, I would prefer a card that could do 1280x960x32, but that == 4.95 meg!!! I run one stealth (not with the TV card) @ 1280x960x16 (565) on a Nokia monitor @ 79Hz and it looks great!!! The tv card is using a crappy monitor so its hard to judge picture quality. you have to be careful when ordering a "stealth64 videm vram" diamond changes the configurations/chips/DACs etc. without reflectin this in model #s.... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 09:25:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19715 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.cs.unc.edu (austin.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19710 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from gamella.cs.unc.edu by austin.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_10_05_96) id MAA12870; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:25:22 -0500 From: Jan Borgersen Received: by gamella.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_06_21_94) id MAA20625; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:25:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199703241725.MAA20625@gamella.cs.unc.edu> Subject: general audio drivers question To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:25:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am not too familiar with audio drivers, so I'm hoping you guys can answer this easily and save me a trip through the code... I also don't need a very detailed answer... Generally, how is data captured or received from the card? Is it all raw sample data and are the drivers responsible for converting among file/compression formats or is any of this done at the hardware level? Also, does this vary among soundcards? (Specifically, is there a difference in the way this is handled b/w a SB16 and a GUS?) Thanks, -j ___________________________________________________________________ Jan Martin Borgersen borg@techie.com http://www.cs.unc.edu/~borgerse From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 10:27:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24394 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.cs.unc.edu (austin.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24388 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gamella.cs.unc.edu by austin.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_10_05_96) id NAA15969; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:27:27 -0500 From: Jan Borgersen Received: by gamella.cs.unc.edu (8.6.10/UNC_06_21_94) id NAA20916; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:27:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199703241827.NAA20916@gamella.cs.unc.edu> Subject: general audio driver question To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:27:20 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am not too familiar with audio drivers, so I'm hoping you guys can answer this easily and save me a trip through the code... Also, I don't need a very detailed answer... Generally, how is data captured or received from the card? Is it all raw sample data and are the drivers responsible for converting among file/compression formats or is any of this done at the hardware level? Also, does this vary among soundcards? (Specifically, b/w a SB16 and a GUS?) Thanks, -j _______________________________ Jan Martin Borgersen borgerse@cs.unc.edu http://www.cs.unc.edu/~borgerse From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 12:02:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01820 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01813 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17848; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:02:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703242002.MAA17848@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org, Michael Petry , Richard Tobin , Steve Passe , Christoph Kukulies , Luigi Rizzo , Doug White , Thomas Arnold Subject: Re: bt848-user video card survey In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:36:41 EST." <199703241536.KAA00472@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:02:44 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Diamond S3 968 with 4 MB of VRAM it is pretty fast for PCI to PCI transfer. Sorry I forgot the Diamond Model. I typically run at 1024x768 32bits. I would investigate the new S3 VirgeX thats the one with VRAM which is supposed to be faster than the S3 968 and you can take advantage of its 3d capabilities in Win95 . Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Louis A. Mamakos" : > > I'm using a #9 Motion 771 video board, with 4MB of VRAM. It's based on > the S3-968, and mine has an IBM 220MHz RAMDAC on-board. I'm told that > there are differing RAMDACs on the these boards, depending on OEM version > or not, but I've not observed it. > > I'm running the board at 1152x900, at a 110MHz dot clock. According to > xvidtune, I'm running 73.92 kHz horizontal refresh, 79.57 Hz vertical > refresh rate. > > The XFree86 3.2 version of the X server support 32 bits per pixel (8/8/8), > which I think precludes 1280x1024. I think that future versions will > support the 24 bits per pixed packed mode, but we'll need to fix up the > brooktree driver to accomodate that.. > > Obviously, the PCI to PCI bus transfer from my Wincast/TV works pretty > well. The Win95 drivers are also pretty nifty. > > louie > > i'm running with a 79.57 Hz vertical refresh, 7 > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 12:29:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03314 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03294 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id MAA06795 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:32:22 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id PAA18838; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:29:07 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA23116; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:29:06 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA21166; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:29:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:29:08 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703242029.OAA21166@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: OSS X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm... So I inquired of OSS, and the $20 package does not include source code. I have an inquiry pending asking what *is* the source licensing price, but it occurs to me: I really was quite shocked to learn that they were intending to sell driver objects like a pig in a poke! I am certainly not going to run on my systems any object code which I did not compile, and cannot modify to suit my needs. After all, that's why I don't use Windows. I *imagine* that the majority of the potential customers of OSS are in a similar situation. If OSS understood this situation, they might be inclined to make the source code commercially available at a much more reasonable price than to the occasional isolated source licensee. This would be good for OSS (to sell many more licenses) and good for the users (to be able to use the commercial drivers). From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 13:25:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08388 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08383 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id NAA29394 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:28:10 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id QAA26103; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:24:53 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA25486; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:24:54 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA01840; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:24:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:24:56 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703242124.PAA01840@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: OSS X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't seem worthwhile to me. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 13:53:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11425 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11419 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00673; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:53:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703242153.NAA00673@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:24:56 CST." <199703242124.PAA01840@compound.east.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:53:14 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, what this means is that we have to concentrate more on our existing sound driver. Set up a project and a few good hackers to volunteer to work on the sound driver. Probably, after this week I will kick off the project -- web page, cvs , etc... However I will need help ! So if no one volunteers then we are stuck with the existing driver and with the OSS stuff. At least we got a choice. Amancio >From The Desk Of Tony Kimball : > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > seem worthwhile to me. > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 14:51:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16624 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16619 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id OAA07136 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:54:22 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id RAA05967; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:51:05 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29555; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:51:05 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA06710; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:51:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:51:09 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703242251.QAA06710@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: non-FreeBSD sound drivers References: <199703242124.PAA01840@compound.east.sun.com> <199703242153.NAA00673@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone knowledgable please comment on the relative merit of the best available NetBSD/OpenBSD/Linux unemcumbered sound driver source, and url locations of same? From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 14:57:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16879 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16874 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:57:35 -0800 (PST) From: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: <199703242257.OAA16874@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 15363 invoked from network); 24 Mar 1997 22:49:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 1997 22:49:37 -0000 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:53:14 -0800 <199703242153.NAA00673@rah.star-gate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <15358.859243776.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:49:37 -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Amancio Hasty > Subject: Re: OSS > Well, > what this means is that we have to concentrate more on our existing > sound driver. Set up a project and a few good hackers to volunteer > to work on the sound driver. Probably, after this week I will > kick off the project -- web page, cvs , etc... However I will need > help ! So if no one volunteers then we are stuck with the existing > driver and with the OSS stuff. > At least we got a choice. ------------------------- Exactly. I would prefer a working sound driver with source, but the current choices are apparently a non-working sound driver with source, or a working (?) sound driver without source. I am in the middle of developing a sound-effects program, and I am stalled right now because the driver apparently has a bug. If I had the time, I'd try to track down the driver problem, but I consider it worth $20 for someone else to get it to work. (And if they don't get it working, too bad for them -- the word would get around that they don't provide a worthwhile product.) When I upgrade to 2.2, I'll buy it. Meanwhile, the source is available for people who want to go that route. Steven > > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of Tony Kimball : > > > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > > seem worthwhile to me. > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 15:52:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20991 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20979 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01669; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703242352.PAA01669@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:49:37 PST." <199703242257.OAA16874@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:52:30 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, when posting reference to bugs with the sound driver we got start by : 1. OS version 2. Sound Driver version 3. Sound Card 4. relevant sound configuration from the kernel config file 5. cat /dev/sndstat 6. Be a bit more descriptive about bug desription and if possible provide code snippet which can reproduce the bug. Amancio >From The Desk Of grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU : > > From: Amancio Hasty > > Subject: Re: OSS > > Well, > > what this means is that we have to concentrate more on our existing > > sound driver. Set up a project and a few good hackers to volunteer > > to work on the sound driver. Probably, after this week I will > > kick off the project -- web page, cvs , etc... However I will need > > help ! So if no one volunteers then we are stuck with the existing > > driver and with the OSS stuff. > > > At least we got a choice. > ------------------------- > Exactly. I would prefer a working sound driver with source, but > the current choices are apparently a non-working sound driver with source, > or a working (?) sound driver without source. I am in the middle > of developing a sound-effects program, and I am stalled right now > because the driver apparently has a bug. If I had the time, I'd > try to track down the driver problem, but I consider it worth $20 > for someone else to get it to work. (And if they don't get it working, > too bad for them -- the word would get around that they don't provide > a worthwhile product.) When I upgrade to 2.2, I'll buy it. > > Meanwhile, the source is available for people who want to go that > route. > > Steven > > > > > Amancio > > > > >From The Desk Of Tony Kimball : > > > > > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > > > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > > > seem worthwhile to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 16:12:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22540 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22527 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:12:50 -0800 (PST) From: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: <199703250012.QAA22527@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 19326 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1997 00:04:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 1997 00:04:50 -0000 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:52:30 -0800 <199703242352.PAA01669@rah.star-gate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19318.859248287.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:04:49 -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of course. If I were reporting a bug, I would report all of these things, and more. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to accumulate information appropriate to a bug report, so I haven't reported this yet. So I was simply providing my point of vie that having a choice between the OSS driver and the current VoxWare driver was not necessarily a bad thing. I will be reporting a bug when I have more information. Unfortunately, the code that casuses it to manifest is in Modula-3, and I'm currently only 98% convinced that it is a driver bug and not in my own code... Steven > From: Amancio Hasty > Subject: Re: OSS > Well, when posting reference to bugs with the sound driver > we got start by : > 1. OS version > > 2. Sound Driver version > > 3. Sound Card > > 4. relevant sound configuration from the kernel config file > > 5. cat /dev/sndstat > > 6. Be a bit more descriptive about bug desription and if possible > provide code snippet which can reproduce the bug. > > > Amancio > > > >From The Desk Of grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU : > > > From: Amancio Hasty > > > Subject: Re: OSS > > > Well, > > > what this means is that we have to concentrate more on our existing > > > sound driver. Set up a project and a few good hackers to volunteer > > > to work on the sound driver. Probably, after this week I will > > > kick off the project -- web page, cvs , etc... However I will need > > > help ! So if no one volunteers then we are stuck with the existing > > > driver and with the OSS stuff. > > > > > At least we got a choice. > > ------------------------- > > Exactly. I would prefer a working sound driver with source, but > > the current choices are apparently a non-working sound driver with source, > > or a working (?) sound driver without source. I am in the middle > > of developing a sound-effects program, and I am stalled right now > > because the driver apparently has a bug. If I had the time, I'd > > try to track down the driver problem, but I consider it worth $20 > > for someone else to get it to work. (And if they don't get it working, > > too bad for them -- the word would get around that they don't provide > > a worthwhile product.) When I upgrade to 2.2, I'll buy it. > > > > Meanwhile, the source is available for people who want to go that > > route. > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > Amancio > > > > > > >From The Desk Of Tony Kimball : > > > > > > > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > > > > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > > > > seem worthwhile to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 18:31:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00873 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00856 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA16801 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20978 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0w9Leu-000hxlC; Mon, 24 Mar 97 18:08 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: bt848 driver To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:08:20 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I finally got a chance to install an SVRIII in a FreeBSD system today, downloaded the bt848.970324b.tar.gz file and installed it. It looks like there's a sync problem somewhere; you can see a snap at http://www.rdrop.com/users/batie/snap.jpg -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 18:31:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01055 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01018 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA16605 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06750; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:44:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703250144.UAA06750@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: FXTV v0.3.1 References: <19970321175705.45910@ct.picker.com> <199703220232.TAA28406@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <19970322130359.59843@ct.picker.com> <19970322163421.06844@ct.picker.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:34:21 EST." <19970322163421.06844@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:44:32 -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pardon me for the stupid question, but with fxtv, does the image capture button work? When I try it, it says: TVSCREENNewFrameHdlr() - Unsupported TrueColor conv My video display is of the 24 bits per pixel / 4 bytes per pixel pursuation. It looks like things might work a bit differently in the 16 bits per pixel case. I recall that early on, it wasn't documented as working, but I thought I'd ask before digging in too hard in figuring out how the code works. louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 18:35:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02086 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02071 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA16155 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02214 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:52:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703250052.QAA02214@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: gamma or matching a vga monitor to an ntsc display? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:52:05 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Anyone knows of a cool SVGA monitor with the correct gamma values for watching TV? My Nano F550i is okay but it is a bit dull compare to my Proteon 27 inch color TV. Any good experiences from anyone out there watching TV with the Bt848 stuff? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 18:35:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02169 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:35:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02103 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: grady@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Received: from xcf.berkeley.edu (scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.201]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA16192 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:57:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703250057.QAA16192@who.cdrom.com> Received: (qmail 21854 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1997 00:48:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 1997 00:48:38 -0000 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:41:10 -0800 <199703250041.QAA02031@rah.star-gate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21849.859250916.1@scam.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:48:37 -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Amancio Hasty > Subject: Re: OSS > > I understand your point of view but to be a little realistic at the > very least you ought to provide evidence that OSS is much superior > to the current Voxware driver. In other words qualify and quantify > your assertions then we have a solid foundation for a discussion. Well, yeah. I'd expect to try out the 5-day free trial before paying for it, and regardless of its quality, I would report my experience to this mailing list. I have no idea if OSS is any better than VoxWare. I'm simply hoping it is. It's also pretty clear that there is no foundation for discussion of the quality of OSS (since they only released it yesterday). There is the potential for the discussion about whether commercial products for FreeBSD is a good thing. In brief, I say "yes". > BTW: I do consider the idea of OSS a good thing. Is just that right > now it does not meet my requirements for instance I am running > FreeBSD-3.0 and the release notes claims that it will not work > on FreeBSD-3.0. I probably more than most of you have been waiting > for a solid sound driver from Hannu and to be honest I am tire > of waiting so off I go in a short while to remedy the existing > Voxware issues. Unless, 4Front can better support me I will have > no choice other than to create our own support structure. Yeah, that's obviously a big problem with no source code. On the other hand, I simply haven't had the time to pursue (hypothetical) driver bug even though I _do_ have source code... Steven From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 19:31:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07145 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07140 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03502; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703250330.TAA03502@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:08:20 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:30:43 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I will look into it . What is your video source tape, tv, camera, etc.. Also are you providing NTSC Input of PAL? Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Alan Batie : > > I finally got a chance to install an SVRIII in a FreeBSD system today, > downloaded the bt848.970324b.tar.gz file and installed it. > > It looks like there's a sync problem somewhere; you can see a snap at > http://www.rdrop.com/users/batie/snap.jpg > > -- > Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. > batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. > +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown > D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 24 19:48:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09059 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (spaz@becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09049 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (spaz@localhost) by becker2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.03) with SMTP id TAA02974 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:48:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:48:17 -0800 (PST) From: John Utz To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: rolling our own sound drivers... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all; The status of our sound stuff is certainly problematic. I hope to be digging into the midi stuff and adding support for the turtle beach maui card in the coming months. I hesitate to make this statement because i am just finishing school and i am uncertain as to what the future might bring. But i know that i have been drawn to that portion of the kernel several times recently, and i suspect i will be playing with this when i am supposed to be doing something else! :-) does anybody have some examples of userland code that fiddles with hardware? i dont really want to do my early work in the kernel! the turnaround is too long, and the consequences of late night coding are too dire to deal with when it is a kernel routine! ( u guys know what i am talking about..that hackfest that was certainly gonna end at 9:00pm...9:15 for sure...that has dragged on until 2:00 am ...and u just noticed that u have done an "rm -r *" on /usr/local instead of /usr/local/foo .. ) ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 01:54:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01463 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01444 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06338 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:54:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703250954.BAA06338@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: bt848 driver for this week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:54:43 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The new driver should be available from FreeBSD 3.0-current or from Steve's web page: http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html: Many thanks to the following individuals for a great job! Steve Passe, Louis A. Mamakos, Randall Hopper petry@netwolf.netmasters.com This is a good week to try out the new driver and report bugs. Massive changes to the driver are being placed somewhat in hold till we can assert the general status of both the driver and respective apps. Please don't be shy to post if something doesn't work right or if you are not sure of how something should work. It is important that we get feedback soon while the team is still "hot" 8) Have fun guys, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 01:59:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01763 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.uq.edu.au (zzshocki.slip.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.221.173]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01754 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 01:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bloop.craftncomp.com (localhost.craftncomp.com [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA01299; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:53:08 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199703250953.TAA01299@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:24:56 CST." <199703242124.PAA01840@compound.east.sun.com> From: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au Reply-To: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:53:06 +1000 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > seem worthwhile to me. > I'm told (I think it was Jordan who said it) that they intend to donate the source in 6 months time. Presumably paying the $20 will pay for the porting effort. Of course their code base will then continue to diverge, but at least we'll have most of the cards supported. Stephen From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 02:27:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA03574 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03567 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA06756; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:27:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703251027.CAA06756@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au cc: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:53:06 +1000." <199703250953.TAA01299@mailbox.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:27:27 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh, I don't know. I think that there is room for both OSS and a viable interim solution. For starters, the current sound driver 3.5 needs a ton of work and planning. Am I willing to wait for Hannu to release the code , I don't think so. Amancio >From The Desk Of shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au : > > > > Hmmm... it doesn't look good. The 4Front pres., Dev Mazumdar, tells > > me that they want $150,000.00 for a source license. That just doesn't > > seem worthwhile to me. > > > > I'm told (I think it was Jordan who said it) that they intend to donate the > source in 6 months time. Presumably paying the $20 will pay for the porting > effort. Of course their code base will then continue to diverge, but at least > we'll have most of the cards supported. > > > Stephen > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 07:59:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA20127 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (root@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20115 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.6.12) id AAA15836; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:59:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703251559.AAA15836@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp Subject: japanese frequency for bt848 driver X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:59:16 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a setting for Japanese television frequencies. Naohiro Shichijo /* * Japanese Broadcast Channels: * * 1: 90MHz - 3: 108MHz * 4: 170MHz - 6: 182MHz * 7: 188MHz * 8: 192MHz - 12: 222MHz (VHF) * 13: 476MHz - 62: 770MHz (UHF) * */ #define OFFSET 6.00 int jpnbc[] = { 62, (int)( 45.75 * FREQFACTOR), 0, 13, (int)(476.00 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), 8, (int)(192.00 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), 7, (int)(188.00 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), 4, (int)(170.00 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), 3, (int)( 90.00 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), 0 }; #undef OFFSET From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23660 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23651 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from caught.inna.net (caught.inna.net [206.151.66.7]) by tyger.inna.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03276; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:11:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:01:01 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Arnold To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-Reply-To: <199703250954.BAA06338@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Please don't be shy to post if something doesn't work right or > if you are not sure of how something should work. > It is important that we get feedback soon while the team is still "hot" 8) I'm still getting a tsleep error. It may be because its on such a slow machine. Can someone tell me what a tsleep error is?? +-----------------------------------------------+ : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : : The Middle Peninsula's Internet Connection : +-----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:26:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24836 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24830 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA26071; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:26:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703251726.KAA26071@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Thomas Arnold cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:01:01 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:26:23 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I'm still getting a tsleep error. It may be because its on such a slow > machine. Can someone tell me what a tsleep error is?? it appears that we catch a signal (PCATCH was set) and we get an ERESTART from tsleep(). I haven't looked into it any further, its just a quick theory... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:37:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26071 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26064 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17436; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0w9a8y-000hxlC; Tue, 25 Mar 97 09:36 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: bt848 driver To: smp@csn.net (Steve Passe) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:36:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703250434.VAA18035@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> from "Steve Passe" at Mar 24, 97 09:34:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > run dmesg and find the line where the driver announces itself, on mine > it looks like: bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:15:0 Intel Smart Video III I'm using an Intel video camera (the one that comes with Proshare), video out to the video in the on the SVRIII. FreeBSD 3.0-970124-SNAP #0: Mon Mar 24 12:52:35 PST 1997 The system is a Dell Dimension XPS P166s. -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:38:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26150 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26144 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25422 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:40:13 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:40:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Roome To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: <199703242029.OAA21166@compound.east.sun.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Tony Kimball wrote: > > Hmmm... So I inquired of OSS, and the $20 package does not include > source code. I have an inquiry pending asking what *is* the source Doesn't OSS stand for "Open Sound System", doens't look very "open" to me anymore... Was work on the FreeBSD sound drivers pretty much suspended waiting for OSS ? If so I'm worried, will it become $20NotFreeAnymoreBSD or will we have FreeBSD with no major sound driver changes for months ? Steve. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:43:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26418 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26413 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA26286; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:41:52 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703251741.KAA26286@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:36:20 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:41:52 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > run dmesg and find the line where the driver announces itself, > ... > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:15:0 > Intel Smart Video III well, it looks like my auto-detect code figured out the card type OK, I'll take a second look to see if I set anything wrong once I know its an Intel, but I think the answer to this will have to come from Amancio, he's the video expert... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 09:53:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27082 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27072 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18112; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0w9aOV-000hxlC; Tue, 25 Mar 97 09:52 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week To: tom@inna.net (Thomas Arnold) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:52:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Arnold" at Mar 25, 96 12:01:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm still getting a tsleep error. It may be because its on such a slow > machine. Can someone tell me what a tsleep error is?? I got one also: bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 100001c -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 10:19:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28788 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28774 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA26674; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:16:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703251816.LAA26674@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:08:20 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:16:40 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, what client are you using to display this? perhaps it is no longer compatible with the driver... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 10:21:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29038 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29029 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA05291; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:26:53 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199703251726.SAA05291@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: OSS To: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:26:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Roome" at Mar 25, 97 05:39:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Doesn't OSS stand for "Open Sound System", doens't look very "open" to me > anymore... one has the freedom of chosing names... OSF is not that different! > Was work on the FreeBSD sound drivers pretty much suspended waiting for that was the excuse, but the true reason I guess is that nobody had the interest+time+ability (one or more missing) to work on them. Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 10:40:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29864 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (spaz@becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29859 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (spaz@localhost) by becker2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.03) with SMTP id KAA18782; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:40:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:40:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Utz To: Stephen Roome cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi; On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Stephen Roome wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Tony Kimball wrote: > > Doesn't OSS stand for "Open Sound System", doens't look very "open" to me > anymore... it's not! I was somewhat frustrated by this, because one could argue that hannu is making a buck off all of the folks that contributed expertise in the early day. nonetheless, the list of stuff that is supported by oss is really significant, and for folks who have just spent umpty-squidillion dollars on a power pc running aix or some other spendy unix, 20.00 is a drop in the hat. I suspect that 4front is not actually trying to sell oss licenses to folks like us, it's just a way to pay the light bill. What they may be trying to do is sell licenses to ibm, univell ( or whoever they are now ), dell, dec, and all the other vendors of unixes that cost money. > Was work on the FreeBSD sound drivers pretty much suspended waiting for > OSS ? If so I'm worried, will it become $20NotFreeAnymoreBSD or will we > have FreeBSD with no major sound driver changes for months ? i would say that that is a safe bet. if not by design, then by default. i know i sort of hung out worring about other things. the sound directory is big and spooky, and in need of an effort on the order of another mailinglist and even a core team. Most of the competent folks in this area have pretty full plates. It seems unlikely that people who have fires to fight with getting 100m ethernet support fleshed out are going to have time to mess with this. it is sort of silly and useless anyway. i expect to keep playing with it in the coming months, but i see noone on the horizon willing to invest the energy to get this moving. it is just going to be a dribs and drabs sort of thing. > Steve. > > ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 10:45:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00237 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00229 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20301; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0w9bCb-000hxlC; Tue, 25 Mar 97 10:44 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: bt848 driver To: smp@csn.net (Steve Passe) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:44:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703251816.LAA26674@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> from "Steve Passe" at Mar 25, 97 11:16:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > what client are you using to display this? perhaps it is no longer > compatible with the driver... Amancio's vic.bktr, which, by the way, bombed because I didn't have the SYSVSHM configured in the kernel, but after I did so, it prints out: vic: warning: not using shared memory Also, I installed the 24c driver, and rebooted, and now I get a "normal" image, but with every other line missing; see http://www.rdrop.com/users/batie/snap2.jpg (xwd seems to have messed up the colors; they're right in vic) By the time I got this far in the message, the image had cleaned up, but when I have someone walk in front of the camera, he ghosts in with half the scan lines: see snap3.jpg at the same location... -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 11:13:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01961 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01956 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12096; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:13:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703251913.LAA12096@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: Thomas Arnold , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:26:23 MST." <199703251726.KAA26071@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:13:52 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The tsleep error that some of you are seeing is because the driver failed to capture a frame. This is a problem with single capture and not with continuous capture . This week I am going to be trying to figure out why does the Bt848 gets into this. Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > > I'm still getting a tsleep error. It may be because its on such a slow > > machine. Can someone tell me what a tsleep error is?? > > it appears that we catch a signal (PCATCH was set) and we get an ERESTART > from tsleep(). I haven't looked into it any further, its just a quick > theory... > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 11:20:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02472 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02465 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA14122 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:20:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:20:33 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: <199703251726.SAA05291@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > that was the excuse, but the true reason I guess is that nobody had the > interest+time+ability (one or more missing) to work on them. > > Luigi I agree with that, and also lack of volunteers/support (it seems that Amancio was doing all the "dirty" work). After the project was "put on hold" I started hacking the Voxware 3.5 mad16 driver, but gave up eventualy, because of lack of support (I am an EE hacking Unix for fun -I am not a wizzard hacker like some of you). I also had a sense of lack of organization, since the whole Voxware thing was a big hack and I just don't have sufficient knowledge / cloud to be able to dictate a direction. But, it looks like the time is right. If the project could be given a direction and momentum (such as Steve Passe and the SMP group did with their project - they also did a great job providing "getting started" tutorials - very important if you want to get "new volunteers") I think we can get somewhere. Best Regards, Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 11:25:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02657 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02651 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12242; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703251924.LAA12242@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) cc: smp@csn.net (Steve Passe), multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:44:09 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:24:19 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use small size till I get a chance to clean up that problem this week. Basically, single captures greater than 320x240 exhibit the problem that you are describing. Do us a favor and try out dtv from my web site. It is a simple utility which dumps raw video to the screen . Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Alan Batie : > > what client are you using to display this? perhaps it is no longer > > compatible with the driver... > > Amancio's vic.bktr, which, by the way, bombed because I didn't have the > SYSVSHM configured in the kernel, but after I did so, it prints out: > > vic: warning: not using shared memory > > Also, I installed the 24c driver, and rebooted, and now I get a "normal" > image, but with every other line missing; see > > http://www.rdrop.com/users/batie/snap2.jpg > > (xwd seems to have messed up the colors; they're right in vic) > > By the time I got this far in the message, the image had cleaned up, but > when I have someone walk in front of the camera, he ghosts in with half > the scan lines: see snap3.jpg at the same location... > > -- > Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. > batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. > +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown > D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 11:34:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03392 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03377 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12321; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:34:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703251934.LAA12321@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome), multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:26:53 +0100." <199703251726.SAA05291@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:34:14 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > Doesn't OSS stand for "Open Sound System", doens't look very "open" to me > > anymore... > > one has the freedom of chosing names... OSF is not that different! > > > Was work on the FreeBSD sound drivers pretty much suspended waiting for > > that was the excuse, but the true reason I guess is that nobody had the > interest+time+ability (one or more missing) to work on them. > Hi Guys, I suggest that we stick to technical strategies and lets leave out this sort of gossip out of the mailing list. Oh, I don't know . You see the gus pnp code was developed on this boxed and the changes where sent to Hannu and some of you got to use what I develop for the gus pnp. Last but not least I use my GUS PnP every day. So whats next? Develop a plan to clean up the driver. And if we fall into the Luigi syndrome: no "interest+time+ability" I guess it will be cool gus pnp support 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 11:53:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04353 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04348 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12431; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703251951.LAA12431@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:20:33 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:51:46 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > But, it looks like the time is right. If the project could be given a > direction and momentum (such as Steve Passe and the SMP group did with > their project - they also did a great job providing "getting started" > tutorials - very important if you want to get "new volunteers") I think we > can get somewhere. Hi Bernie, One of my top list items is a short tutorial to describe how the sound driver works . How to interface a low level driver to the sound driver, the code path for audio read , write ,etc... There is a lot more that needs to be done and I need to sit down and lay out the foundation for the project. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 12:02:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05178 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05094 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA14290 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:00:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:00:26 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: <199703251951.LAA12431@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:00:51 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: Bernie Doehner ReSent-To: multimedia@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Amancio +: > Hi Bernie, > > One of my top list items is a short tutorial to describe how the sound > driver works . How to interface a low level driver to the sound driver, > the code path for audio read , write ,etc... Please don't forget general instructions for converting linux kernel dependencies to FreeBSD files.i386 dependencies, I remmember having some trouble with that, but then I never claimed I knew what I was doing. Best Regards, Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 12:16:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06000 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05992 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14385 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:16:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:16:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: <199703251934.LAA12321@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Guys, > I suggest that we stick to technical strategies and lets leave out > this sort of gossip out of the mailing list. > Quite agreed. But Luigi just raised an important question, what will be the OS release to be used to get this off the ground? Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 12:39:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07468 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07457 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13147; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:38:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252038.MAA13147@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:16:38 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:38:16 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We will use 3.0 -current as the development OS. I got hammer real good in the past for being a rev or two behind. We will need volunteers to try out the driver in 2.2 , thats all. Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > > Hi Guys, > > I suggest that we stick to technical strategies and lets leave out > > this sort of gossip out of the mailing list. > > > > Quite agreed. But Luigi just raised an important question, what will be > the OS release to be used to get this off the ground? > > Bernie > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 12:41:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07716 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07695 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16890; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:41:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-Reply-To: <199703250954.BAA06338@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > The new driver should be available from FreeBSD 3.0-current or > from Steve's web page: http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html: > > Many thanks to the following individuals for a great job! > Steve Passe, > Louis A. Mamakos, > Randall Hopper > petry@netwolf.netmasters.com Hear, hear! > This is a good week to try out the new driver and report bugs. > Massive changes to the driver are being placed somewhat in hold > till we can assert the general status of both the driver and respective apps. I'll try to check this. My machine is locked in my dorm room, and I have very restricted access to the building. I'll see if I can sneak the CPU out. > Please don't be shy to post if something doesn't work right or > if you are not sure of how something should work. > It is important that we get feedback soon while the team is still "hot" 8) I'm rather anxious to give the audio stuff a spin. :) If I can do anything with it I'll let you guys know. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 12:49:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08280 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:49:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08266 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13279; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:49:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252049.MAA13279@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:41:13 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:49:49 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Doug White : > I'm rather anxious to give the audio stuff a spin. :) Oh, the tuner people have done a fantastic job here. I usually sit here with a modified version of dtv to listen and watch tv. It is really cool. When I get a breather I will post my version of dtv which is very simple/dumb. To start on a given channel I type: dtv 3 To restart it I just tap on the keyboard and edit the command line and off it goes again. Usually, I set my screen size to 640x480 so dtv takes up the whole screen. This kind of mode of operation is handy when you have two or three more boxes close to each other. In my case, I have a P100 right next to my PPro 200 . I am not saying that people ought to go out and buy more boxes just to watch TV ;rather, this is my development / entertainment environment over here. Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 13:29:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA10733 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10711 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from caught.inna.net (caught.inna.net [206.151.66.7]) by tyger.inna.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02943; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:36:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:25:20 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Arnold To: Amancio Hasty cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-Reply-To: <199703251913.LAA12096@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > The tsleep error that some of you are seeing is because the driver > failed to capture a frame. This is a problem with single capture > and not with continuous capture . This week I am going to be > trying to figure out why does the Bt848 gets into this. What is tsleep()? If its a FreeBSD function, where can I find it? I'm kinda curious. I prolly can't fix anything but I wanna see what it does. +-----------------------------------------------+ : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : : The Middle Peninsula's Internet Connection : +-----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 13:36:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11376 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11369 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA28951; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:36:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703252136.OAA28951@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Thomas Arnold cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:25:20 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:36:28 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, in -current "man tsleep", no idea whether it is in 2.2 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 13:37:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11430 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11417 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13567; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:37:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252137.NAA13567@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Thomas Arnold cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:25:20 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:36:59 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh, is a driver function which basically sleeps in the driver waiting for an operation to complete , if it times out we got an error. Feel, free to browse at the driver -- brooktree848.c and you will find the call there. cheers Amancio >From The Desk Of Thomas Arnold : > On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > The tsleep error that some of you are seeing is because the driver > > failed to capture a frame. This is a problem with single capture > > and not with continuous capture . This week I am going to be > > trying to figure out why does the Bt848 gets into this. > > What is tsleep()? If its a FreeBSD function, where can I find it? I'm > kinda curious. I prolly can't fix anything but I wanna see what it does. > > > +-----------------------------------------------+ > : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : > : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : > : The Middle Peninsula's Internet Connection : > +-----------------------------------------------+ > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 13:50:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12775 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12726 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA14750; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:47:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OSS In-Reply-To: <199703252038.MAA13147@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We will use 3.0 -current as the development OS. I got hammer real good in > the past for being a rev or two behind. > Was afraid of that. I guess that's why development and production aren't synonymous. Problem is, I don't currently have a mchine I can truely dedicate to development. How stable is 3.0-current (my only choice would be to install it on a production machine)? Has the network device driver changed (again?)? Is there a list of core programs/objects that I'll have to deal with if I upgrade to 3.0-current? Thanks and sorry for the noise of what's supposed to be multimedia talk! Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 14:51:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17429 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17421 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA06340; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:55:59 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199703252155.WAA06340@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: OSS To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:55:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199703252038.MAA13147@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Mar 25, 97 12:37:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We will use 3.0 -current as the development OS. I got hammer real good in > the past for being a rev or two behind. > > We will need volunteers to try out the driver in 2.2 , thats all. [technical question :) ] are 2.2 and 3.0 so different with respect to drivers ? I don't expect so, and my past experience between 2.1 and 2.2 has been quite successful, just a matter of changing a few things. And the bt848 history seems to suggest the same. Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 14:52:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17530 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17525 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14131; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703252252.OAA14131@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OSS In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:55:58 +0100." <199703252155.WAA06340@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:52:01 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Bt848 success in 2.2 is a bit different since the PCI subsystem is the same for both versions. We will stick to 3.0 for development , thank you. Amancio >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > We will use 3.0 -current as the development OS. I got hammer real good in > > the past for being a rev or two behind. > > > > We will need volunteers to try out the driver in 2.2 , thats all. > > [technical question :) ] are 2.2 and 3.0 so different with respect > to drivers ? I don't expect so, and my past experience between 2.1 > and 2.2 has been quite successful, just a matter of changing a few > things. And the bt848 history seems to suggest the same. > > Luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 14:53:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17592 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17587 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id OAA14566; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:56:21 -0800 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id RAA00642; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:52:49 -0500 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01180; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:52:49 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA00279; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:52:45 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:52:45 GMT Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199703252252.WAA00279@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bad@uhf.wireless.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSS References: <199703252038.MAA13147@rah.star-gate.com> X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Bernie Doehner on Tue, 25 March: : How stable is 3.0-current (my only choice would be to install it on a : production machine)? I hear reports of NFS problems. I don't use NFS. I've been rock-solid stable since 970314. I suspect vm leaks, but I never actually avoid rebooting long enough to know for sure -- usually I rebuild and reboot at least once a week. : Has the network device driver changed : (again?)? Is there a list of core programs/objects that I'll have to deal : with if I upgrade to 3.0-current? Just make world, eh? I've had much less bootstrap trouble going from 2.2 to 3.0 qua current than previously in going from 2.1.5 to 2.2 qua current. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 15:12:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18993 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18981 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17751; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:12:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703252312.SAA17751@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week References: <199703252137.NAA13567@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:36:59 PST." <199703252137.NAA13567@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:12:11 -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of tsleep(), does it make sense to convert the new I2C code to use tsleep() to wait until the I2C bus transaction completes? It busy waits now, but I think you can get an interrupt from the Bt848 when it's done. It busy waits now, I think. louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 15:20:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19574 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19568 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00141; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:19:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703252319.QAA00141@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:12:11 EST." <199703252312.SAA17751@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:19:02 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Speaking of tsleep(), does it make sense to convert the new I2C code > to use tsleep() to wait until the I2C bus transaction completes? It > busy waits now, but I think you can get an interrupt from the Bt848 when > it's done. It busy waits now, I think. I asked myself that question and decided it wasn't worth the management effort, at least not now... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 16:15:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24158 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24153 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00867 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:14:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703260014.RAA00867@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: newest bt848 driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:14:55 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I fixed several minor bugs, plus removed a TON of magic numbers, primarily from the _intr code and my tuner code. I added the japanese frequency table submitted earlier today by Naohiro Shichijo. This is the candidate for the next commit to freefall: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html/files/bt848.970325.tar.gz there are still a TON more magic numbers to be removed from the video functions. I did some of them, but got really burned out on it. Anyone with time on their hands should feel free ( but co-ordinate so we don't have duplication of effort ).... have fun! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 17:26:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29749 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29743 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15606; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260126.RAA15606@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:14:55 MST." <199703260014.RAA00867@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:51 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks Steve! I noticed that we now have Japanese support most cool! I guess that the PAL folks are still hiding . Whats ironic is that the developers are using German made Bt848 based cards 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > I fixed several minor bugs, plus removed a TON of magic numbers, primarily > from the _intr code and my tuner code. I added the japanese frequency > table submitted earlier today by Naohiro Shichijo. This is the > candidate for the next commit to freefall: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html/files/bt848.970325.tar.gz > > there are still a TON more magic numbers to be removed from the video > functions. I did some of them, but got really burned out on it. > Anyone with time on their hands should feel free ( but co-ordinate so > we don't have duplication of effort ).... > > have fun! > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 18:00:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03099 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03093 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15799 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:00:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260200.SAA15799@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 enhancements for this week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:00:55 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. Provide functionality to support cards such as the Matrox Millenium , Mystique which have a different pixel order BGR as opposed to RGB which most of us probably have. 2. Pal support . If an European steps in and does not have the Bt848 data book perhaps someone from the group can convert to PS the relevant material and make it available to the volunteer. 3. Fix the ioctl problem that some of you have reported. The Bt848 driver reports a tsleep error due to the driver failing to capture a frame. 4. Fix the problem of frames odd or even frames missing in apps such as vic. I am going to work on 3 and 4. Any volunteers for 1 and 2? When problems 3 and 4 are fixed we will be just a short step away from prime time release. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 18:23:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA05569 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA05564 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA11585; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:22:59 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:22:58 GMT Message-Id: <26286.199703260222@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Amancio Hasty , Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:26:51 -0800 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I guess that the PAL folks are still hiding . Whats ironic is that > the developers are using German made Bt848 based cards 8) I have the UK PAL version of the Hauppauge card, but I don't have the documentation to get it working. I e-mailed Brooktree a few days ago but haven't had a response yet. I guess that what needs to be done is: (1) add the METEORSFMT/METEOR_FMT_PAL ioctl. Can someone tell me what the right value to use in "bt848->iform |= x" is? x=2 or x=3? Presumably the other one is SECAM? (2) add the UK/European frequencies (easy, but I don't know if there is a standard numbering for them. We only use channel numbers 21-69 here). (3) the tuner. The tuner in my card is not recognised by the driver. It's labelled (if I pull the Hauppauge sticker off) "Front end 4062 FY5 Temic 3x8 501". 4062 seems to be the model number. I have just e-mailed Temic to ask for details, but if anyone else has them please let me know. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 19:08:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09014 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08986 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA02822; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:07:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703260307.UAA02822@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:22:58 GMT." <26286.199703260222@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:07:43 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I have the UK PAL version of the Hauppauge card, but I don't > have the documentation to get it working. I e-mailed Brooktree > a few days ago but haven't had a response yet. > > I guess that what needs to be done is: > > (1) add the METEORSFMT/METEOR_FMT_PAL ioctl. Can someone tell me > what the right value to use in "bt848->iform |= x" is? x=2 or > x=3? Presumably the other one is SECAM? # define BT848_IFORM_F_SECAM (0x6) the latest driver I posted to the webpage today (970325) has the defines for all the bits in the iformat register listed in brktree_reg.h --- > (3) the tuner. The tuner in my card is not recognised by the driver. > It's labelled (if I pull the Hauppauge sticker off) "Front end > 4062 FY5 Temic 3x8 501". 4062 seems to be the model number. I have > just e-mailed Temic to ask for details, but if anyone else has them > please let me know. The key to identifying the tuner is identifying the i2c synth/PLL used inside of it. If the metal lid is not soldered down (or your very brave) you could remove it and record the numbers of all the ICs inside. The part we are interested in probably begins with "TSA", but record them all. Another approach is to probe all i2c addresses from 0xc1, 0xc3, ... 0xcf. try adding this to the top of the probeCard() function: printf( "\nprobing for PLL\n" ); for ( x = 0xc1; x <= 0xcf; x += 2 ) { if ( i2cRead( bktr, x ) != ABSENT ) { printf( "found PLL @ 0x%02x\n", x ); } } the output will end up in your dmesg output. if this doesn't kick out anything you might try every address from 0x01 thru 0xff. I don't *think* it could hurt anything. I'm considering doing this as SOP to create a "signature" of the card for identification purposes. DON't use the commentsed out software probe routine for this, it could harm (corrupt) EEProm contents. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 19:38:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA11003 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10998 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA22544; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:38:05 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:38:04 GMT Message-Id: <26337.199703260338@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe , Richard Tobin In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:07:43 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Another approach is to probe all i2c addresses from 0xc1, 0xc3, ... 0xcf. I tried this, and c3 worked. TSA552x_RADDR is #defined to be c3, and the comment describes it as a "guaranteed address" - what dooes that mean (and if it's guaranteed, why don't all the cards use it)? Anyway, if I use c3, I get a picture! Only B&W though so far. When I tried the cable channels I got nothing and then it completely hung the machine. I'll try some more experiments tomorrow. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 19:49:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA11503 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11495 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA03308; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:49:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703260349.UAA03308@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:38:04 GMT." <26337.199703260338@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:49:30 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > Another approach is to probe all i2c addresses from 0xc1, 0xc3, ... 0xcf. > > I tried this, and c3 worked. TSA552x_RADDR is #defined to be c3, > and the comment describes it as a "guaranteed address" - what dooes > that mean (and if it's guaranteed, why don't all the cards use it)? generically the i2c chips are programmable for different chips to allow more than 1 in a circuit. why any particular address is used in a particular card is a design decision based on various factors. we depend on them being at different addresses to be able to identify the card. is c3 the ONLY address that spoke out? --- > Anyway, if I use c3, I get a picture! Only B&W though so far. When I > tried the cable channels I got nothing and then it completely hung the > machine. I'll try some more experiments tomorrow. do you have another machine around to 'ping' it? I have seen a 'hang' here, (twice in several weeks of heavy usage). in my case you can still ping the machine over the network, which suggests that an ioctl has hung hard, but INTs are still active. I think I know how it could happen, one of those race conditions... am thinking about how to deal with it. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 21:38:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA17100 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17090 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:38:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260538.VAA17090@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 1951; Tue, 25 Mar 97 21:37:37 PST Date: Tue, 25 Mar 97 21:37 PST To: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG From: Denis DeLaRoca Subject: (Copy) New RAT release (v3.0.18) Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------------------------- Text of forwarded message ----------------------- From: Orion Hodson Reply-To: rat-trap@CS.UCL.AC.UK To: rem-conf@ES.NET cc: ucl-audio@CS.UCL.AC.UK, merci@CS.UCL.AC.UK, mice-nsc-uk@CS.UCL.AC.UK Subject: New RAT release (v3.0.18) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:51:34 +0000 Message-ID: <1554.859323094@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Sender: O.Hodson@CS.UCL.AC.UK The Robust-Audio Tool (RAT) is designed to allow multiple users to talk to each other over the internet. RAT is adaptive to network and host conditions. It is RTP compliant and can be operated in unicast and multicast modes. It is compatible with other Mbone audio tools (VAT, FreePhone, IP/TV) and offers redundant audio encoding and receiver based repair to provide improved sound quality. Further details can be found at http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice/rat/. Binaries (and man page) are available at the UCL ftp server: ftp://cs.ucl.ac.uk/mice/rat/ and currently exist for Solaris, SunOS, Irix, Linux, HP-UX and Windows95. FreeBSD, and possibly OSF/1, versions will be available shortly. Users of earlier releases should upgrade now to enjoy improved audio quality and stability. This release has the following enhancements, compared to release 2.6: - Improved redundancy support - Improved packet repetition - Transcoder/mixer operation - Flakeway operation - Lecture mode - LBL conference bus compatibility - Audio device trading between multiple instances of rat/vat - Voice switching of video when combined with vic - Better RTCP compliance - L16 (16bit linear, uncompressed) codec - Improved performance of analysis-by-synthesis codecs (GSM/LPC) - New user-interface - Active speaker indication now works - Automatic audio DC bias removal - Selective muting of participants - Assorted bug-fixes A large amount of the code has been re-written to make RAT more flexible and reliable. The major enhancement in this release is the ability to operate as a transcoder. RAT will transcode between two multicast groups, unicast and multicast, and unicast-to-unicast. RAT can transcode between any combination of PCMU, L16, DVI, GSM, LPC and redundant audio, and can add/remove encryption as appropriate. Comments, suggestions, and bug-reports should be sent to rat-trap@cs.ucl.ac.uk. regards Colin, Orion, and Isidor [despite being on a plane to Greece :-) ] From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 25 23:50:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA23868 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23863 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18375 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:50:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703260750.XAA18375@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Pal info for our European hackers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:50:13 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need to have the following pages from the Bt848 databook scan or fax to me: page: 23-30 page: 88-91 page: 100-101 My fax number is 415-495-3046 Thank you in advance, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 04:04:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04924 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA04919 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA19924; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:31 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:30 GMT Message-Id: <26427.199703261203@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:49:30 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > is c3 the ONLY address that spoke out? Yes. I opened the tuner, and the chips are: TSA5522T TDA5737M TDA9800T > do you have another machine around to 'ping' it? I have seen a 'hang' > here, (twice in several weeks of heavy usage). in my case you can still > ping the machine over the network, which suggests that an ioctl has hung > hard, but INTs are still active. I'll try that if it happens again. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 04:38:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA06564 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from netwolf.NetMasters.com (netwolf.netmasters.com [199.201.245.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06558 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from netwolf.NetMasters.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netwolf.NetMasters.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02315; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:37:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703261237.HAA02315@netwolf.NetMasters.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 enhancements for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:00:55 PST." <199703260200.SAA15799@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:37:54 -0500 From: Michael Petry Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Shhhh, Please don't tell my Matrox Millenium that is shouldn't be working. Watching TV while hacking makes me feel like I moved up a notch in the Couch Potato evolutionary chain. (Who's working on the PCI card the provides exercise) Showing my ignorance. What's the core issue? I can only guess that the dynamics of the controls have allow me to compensate for the switch of byte swapping of BXR to RXB. Is it just that the hue and croma controls work backwards? I've been using the Xfree86 beta driver and running in 32 bit mode. >1. Provide functionality to support cards such as the Matrox Millenium , > Mystique which have a different pixel order BGR as opposed to RGB which > most of us probably have. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 09:46:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29792 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29778 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA12211; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:46:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703261746.KAA12211@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Steve Passe , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:30 GMT." <26427.199703261203@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:46:05 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > is c3 the ONLY address that spoke out? > > Yes. > > I opened the tuner, and the chips are: > > TSA5522T > TDA5737M > TDA9800T these are the same as was in the Temic tuner on the STB card I had. for the record, we are talking about: "Front end 4062 FY5 Temic 3x8 501" which is showing up @ 0xc2/c3 my old STB was a 4032 and showed up @ 0xc0/c1 so the problem is how we differentiate this UK version from other cards since they ALL respond to 0xc2.. I guess I need to write that "siganture" probe I mentioned where we probe every READ address from 0x01 thru 0xff. I then build a bitmap of ACKs, 1 = present. 128 read addresses / 8 == 16 byte signature. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 09:49:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00385 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA00355 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA05794; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:49:06 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:49:03 GMT Message-Id: <26814.199703261749@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:46:05 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > "Front end 4062 FY5 Temic 3x8 501" > which is showing up @ 0xc2/c3 > my old STB was a 4032 and showed up @ 0xc0/c1 > so the problem is how we differentiate this UK version from other > cards since they ALL respond to 0xc2.. A guy from Temic is going to fax me the specs for the 4062. I'll let you know if they're enlightening. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 11:02:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09594 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09583 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05311; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703261902.LAA05311@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Michael Petry cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 enhancements for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:37:54 EST." <199703261237.HAA02315@netwolf.NetMasters.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:02:13 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Michael, The issue is very simple. The dma controller can swap bytes or words on the fly. Memory mapped register 0xd8 or bktr_color_ctl: bit 3 word swap odd bit 2 word swap even bit 1 byte swap odd bit 0 byte swap even For apps which write directly to the vga's linear frame buffer you want to be able to set the correct pixel order for the card. And for apps which don't write directly to the frame buffer you can save byte swapping in the X server by presenting a matching pixel order to the X server. We need a way to modify IOCTL_GEO_RGB16 and IOCTL_GEO_RGB24 to pass along the pixel order. Then in build_dma_prog set the appropiate bits for bktr_color_ctl based upon capturing even, odd , or even and odd frame, and the color depth 16 bits vs 32bits. Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Michael Petry : > > Shhhh, Please don't tell my Matrox Millenium that is shouldn't be working. > Watching TV while hacking makes me feel like I moved up a notch in the Couch > Potato evolutionary chain. (Who's working on the PCI card the provides > exercise) > > Showing my ignorance. What's the core issue? I can only guess that the > dynamics of the controls have allow me to compensate for the switch of byte > swapping of BXR to RXB. Is it just that the hue and croma controls work > backwards? I've been using the Xfree86 beta driver and running in 32 bit mod e. > > >1. Provide functionality to support cards such as the Matrox Millenium , > > Mystique which have a different pixel order BGR as opposed to RGB which > > most of us probably have. > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 11:47:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15589 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15578 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06257; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:47:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703261947.LAA06257@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 to: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Pal info for our European hackers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:50:13 PST." <199703260750.XAA18375@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:47:43 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Louis, was kind to fax me the necessary info for Richard. Tnks! Hi Richard, The necessary info is available from : ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/tobin.tar.gz additionally, the linux driver should have programming info for PAL. Look up bttv in the bt848 project web page: http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html Tnks and have fun! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 13:46:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00120 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00104 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA14891; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:45:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703262145.OAA14891@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:49:03 GMT." <26814.199703261749@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:45:18 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just put a new bt848 driver on the web page. This version fixes several more bugs, including yesterdays Japanese freq table. It has new expanded TUNER table structs to allow adding info about NTSC/PAL/SECAM etc. it attempts to detect the hauppauge/Temic-SECAM card on boot. it has a tuner entry for the Temic-SECAM tuner. http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/bt848.970326.tar.gz --- My edit session of the web page hung mid edit so the page is visually hosed right now, I was attempting to put in a short program to invoke a new ioctl(): BT848_SIGNATURE. this will search for all the i2c devices on the card. hopefully this will allow use to determine which is which during boot. If you can, update to this latest version and run this test. Note that it takes NO args, just type "sign". report the test's output results along with: card make and model tuner type ie, the brand name and model on the big tin can. card input format, ie NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc. country being used in. ----------------------------------------- cut --------------------------------- #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define DEVICE "/dev/tuner0" #define SIZE 256 main(int ac, char **av) { int x; char s[ SIZE ]; int tuner; struct eeProm signature; u_char* p; int o; int c; signature.offset = 0x01; signature.count = 128; if ((tuner = open( DEVICE, O_RDONLY)) < 0 ) exit( 1 ); if ( ioctl(tuner, BT848_SIGNATURE, &signature) < 0 ) exit( 1 ); printf( "\nsignature contents, 0x%02x thru 0x%02x:\n", signature.offset, (2 * ((signature.offset - 1) + signature.count)) - 1 ); for ( p = &signature.bytes[ 0 ], x = 0; x < 16; ++x ) { if ( !(x & 0xf) ) printf( "\n" ); printf( " %02x", p[ x ] ); } printf( "\n" ); printf( "\n\ni2c device found @ \n" ); for ( p = &signature.bytes[ 0 ], x = 0; x < 128; ++x ) { if ( p[ x / 8 ] & (1 << (x % 8)) ) { printf( " 0x%02x\n", x * 2 ); } } printf( "\n" ); exit( 0 ); } ----------------------------------------- cut --------------------------------- -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 15:03:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08091 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08075 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA15821 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:03:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703262303.QAA15821@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: bt848 based card survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:03:03 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, to get the database started: Make/model: Hauppauge WinCast/TV dbx model 401 Tuner: Philips, FI1236 Tuner input: NTSC Country of use: usa signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 0a 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xb6 0xc2 0xc6 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 11 00 00 04 48 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 01 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 ad 10 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 17 12 79 e4 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 15:59:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13077 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13059 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA24588; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:59:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:59:20 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-Reply-To: <199703252049.MAA13279@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > I'm rather anxious to give the audio stuff a spin. :) > > Oh, the tuner people have done a fantastic job here. I usually sit > here with a modified version of dtv to listen and watch tv. It is > really cool. When I get a breather I will post my version of dtv which > is very simple/dumb. To start on a given channel I type: > > dtv 3 Cool. I like fxtv myself. It really needs a keyboard channel changer though. I have to be very careful about tweaking the virtual desktop to get the screen aligned properly, and I hate mesing it up to change the channel. :) BTW, I had a chance to pull the 0324 code. Works great!! My thanks to the people who've put it together so far. Now I need to grab my long coax cable and hook the audio to my stereo, then....oh boy! :) While we're shooting the breeze, have you noticed that small on-screen text seems a bit fuzzy? It looks like the lines are reversed... is this a byproduct of the bt848 or something we can tune? I'll try to snap a screenshot of this when it's on. Is there any way of interrogating the cards and finding out if the channel is broadcasting stereo? It doesn't sound like it is doing stereo decode, although this is the WinCast/dbx. I can't tell with headphones on standard TV on channels our Sony TV says are on stereo. I suppose I need to find a movie or something that does a lot of left/right type panning. The stereo in ports on the card are working okay, they pipe properly out to the soundcard. An Nintendo64 with WaveRace tests that real nicely. (WaveRace is a Jetski racing game) ttyl! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 16:45:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17319 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17300 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA16977; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:44:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703270044.RAA16977@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Doug White cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:59:20 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:44:53 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Is there any way of interrogating the cards and finding out if the channel > is broadcasting stereo? It doesn't sound like it is doing stereo decode, > although this is the WinCast/dbx. I can't tell with headphones on > standard TV on channels our Sony TV says are on stereo. I suppose I need > to find a movie or something that does a lot of left/right type panning. all I've done to the stereo chips so far is unmute it. the placeholder function for adding stereo support is: /* * setup the dbx chip * XXX FIXME: alot of work to be done here, this merely unmutes it. */ static int set_BTSC( bktr_ptr_t bktr, int control ) { return( i2cWrite( bktr, TDA9850_WADDR, CON3ADDR, control ) ); } to get info on programming the TDA9850 I2C-bus controlled BTSC Stereo/SAP Decoder look at: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/2144.pdf go for it! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 17:20:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19676 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason.garman.net (pm106-09.dialip.mich.net [192.195.231.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA19666 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2322 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 1997 01:20:00 -0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:20:00 -0500 From: garman@jason.garman.net (Jason Garman) To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: soundblaster8: [Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?] X-Mailer: Mutt 0.58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: garman@phs.k12.ar.us X-Phase-Of-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (93% of Full) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 2.1.6.1-RELEASE Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting lots of these in my system log now that i've upgraded to 2.2. With the same configuration file (well the sound part at least) the 2.1.7 kernel i used to use worked fine. Now I get this and garbled output (it will work fine to a point, then start garbling and printing the error...) any ideas? controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts plus /dev/sndstat: VoxWare Sound Driver:3.0-beta-950506 (Sun Feb 5 14:38:12 EST 1995 freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com) Config options: ffffffff Installed drivers: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM Type 2: SoundBlaster Card config: SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 65535 drq 4294967295 Audio devices: 0: SoundBlaster 2.2 Synth devices: 0: OPL-2 Midi devices: 0: SoundBlaster Timers: 0: System Timer Mixers: the irq and drq numbers for the fm controller look awfully suspicious but it worked under 2.1.7 thanks for any help, -- Jason Garman http://www.nesc.k12.ar.us/~garman/ Student, Eleanor Roosevelt High School garman@phs.k12.ar.us From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 18:30:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24792 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24784 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA00204; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:30:25 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:30:24 GMT Message-Id: <26926.199703270230@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:45:18 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > new expanded TUNER table structs to allow adding info about NTSC/PAL/SECAM > etc. it attempts to detect the hauppauge/Temic-SECAM card on boot. it > has a tuner entry for the Temic-SECAM tuner. ?? The tuner model number you've put in is the one I gave you which is PAL, not SECAM! Incidentally there is a list of the Temic 40xx tuners at http://www.temic-rf.com/40xx.htm It looks as if the difference between the tuners is not PAL-NTSC-SECAM as such, but B/G-D/K-I-M/N, but I don't really understand this. Anyway, here's my result for the signature program. > card make and model Hauppauge Win/TV PCI > tuner type ie, the brand name and model on the big tin can. Temic 4062 FY5 > card input format, ie NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc. PAL-I > country being used in. UK signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0x22 0xa0 0xc2 Your later message includes eeprom contents, but the program you mailed didn't determine that. There should be a fax waiting for me at work from the guy at Temic. Here's what I added to brooktree.c for PAL: belhaven$ diff -c /sys/pci/brooktree848.c{.~10~,} *** /sys/pci/brooktree848.c.~10~ Wed Mar 26 20:24:56 1997 --- /sys/pci/brooktree848.c Thu Mar 27 02:03:43 1997 *************** *** 1092,1097 **** --- 1092,1104 ---- bt848->iform |= BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCM; break; + case METEOR_FMT_PAL: + bktr->flags = (bktr->flags & ~METEOR_FORM_MASK) | + METEOR_PAL; + bt848->iform &= ~BT848_IFORM_FORMAT; + bt848->iform |= BT848_IFORM_F_PALBDGHI; + break; + case METEOR_FMT_AUTOMODE: bktr->flags = (bktr->flags & ~METEOR_FORM_MASK) | METEOR_AUTOMODE; *************** *** 3029,3041 **** }; /* ! * Western European channels: */ int weurope[] = { ! 0, 0, 0, 0 }; - /* * Japanese Broadcast Channels: --- 3036,3050 ---- }; /* ! * Western European broadcast channels: ! * ! * (there are others that appear to vary between countries - rmt) */ int weurope[] = { ! 69, (int)( 38.9 * FREQFACTOR), 0, ! 21, (int)(471.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(8.00 * FREQFACTOR), 0 }; /* * Japanese Broadcast Channels: -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 18:34:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25098 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25090 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09041; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:34:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703270234.SAA09041@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:30:24 GMT." <26926.199703270230@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:34:26 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Richard Tobin : > Here's what I added to brooktree.c for PAL: Well, how is the card working over there ?? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 26 19:51:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00962 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00872 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA02471; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703270349.UAA02471@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:30:24 GMT." <26926.199703270230@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, --- >? The tuner model number you've put in is the one I gave you which >is PAL, not SECAM! you previously wrote: >> (1) add the METEORSFMT/METEOR_FMT_PAL ioctl. Can someone tell me >> what the right value to use in "bt848->iform |= x" is? x=2 or >> x=3? Presumably the other one is SECAM? I mis-interpreted this to mean your tuner was a SECAM... I'll change it. --- >signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: > > 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 > > >i2c device found @ > 0x22 <- what is this? ^^^^ this is something unique we can key in on! I suspect it will be a Philips SAA524x teletext chip. > 0xa0 <- this is the EEProm > 0xc2 <- this is the PLL in the tuner. Am I correct in assumming your card doesn't have dbx (stereo)? If you would, please examine you card for the part #s on the ICs. For a guide to what we already are aware of see: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/WINCASTTV.html --- >Your later message includes eeprom contents, but the program you mailed >didn't determine that. that comes from eeprom.c, I've placed both sign.c and eeprom.c on the webpage. --- >Here's what I added to brooktree.c for PAL: > ... thanx, I think I have everything fixed, its been added to my current code and on the webpage as: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/bt848.970326b.tar.gz -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 09:49:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01626 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01606 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10979; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:49:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703271749.KAA10979@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:07:57 GMT." <199703271307.NAA07476@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:49:22 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > Well, how is the card working over there ?? > > So far it tunes in the broadcast channels, but fxtv displays them in > black-and-white and doesn't show the whole picture (there's also black > space to the left and top of the picture). I'll let you know when there's > more progress. I suspect we are slightly mis-tuned, this will cause loss of the color-burst portion of the signal. I found a freq table provided in a developers kit for their i2c chips and although it agrees in general with your simple table, individual channels within the list jump all over the place. Lets concentrate on 2 or 3 of your "strongest" channels, ie ones that you get the best reception for on a normal tv. Tell me those channel #s and I'll hand build a table that provides the exact for those specific channels. I'm also going to add a program called "freq.c" to the webpage that allows you to directly plug in frequencies. Note that this program is VERY dumb and only deals with the raw (fRF * 16) values, not the actual frequencies in mHz. --- Here's the philips table for your own experimentation: /* * caution, many of the actual offsets don't match the OFFSET column * * 1 4525 700 N21 * * 2 4825 700 E2 * 3 5525 700 E3 * 4 6225 700 E4 * * 5 17525 700 E5 * 6 18225 700 E6 * 7 18925 700 E7 * 8 19625 700 E8 * 9 20325 700 E9 * 10 21025 700 E10 * 11 21725 700 E11 * 12 22425 700 E12 * * 13 5375 700 ITA * 14 6225 700 ITB * * 15 8225 700 ITC * * 16 17525 700 ITD * 17 18325 700 ITE * * 18 19225 700 ITF * 19 20125 700 ITG * 20 21025 700 ITH * * 21 47125 800 E21 * 22 47925 800 E22 * 23 48725 800 E23 * 24 49525 800 E24 * 25 50325 800 E25 * 26 51125 800 E26 * 27 51925 800 E27 * 28 52725 800 E28 * 29 53525 800 E29 * 30 54325 800 E30 * 31 55125 800 E31 * 32 55925 800 E32 * 33 56725 800 E33 * 34 57525 800 E34 * 35 58325 800 E35 * 36 59125 800 E36 * 37 59925 800 E37 * 38 60725 800 E38 * 39 61525 800 E39 * 40 62325 800 E40 * 41 63125 800 E41 * 42 63925 800 E42 * 43 64725 800 E43 * 44 65525 800 E44 * 45 66325 800 E45 * 46 67125 800 E46 * 47 67925 800 E47 * 48 68725 800 E48 * 49 69525 800 E49 * 50 70325 800 E50 * 51 71125 800 E51 * 52 71925 800 E52 * 53 72725 800 E53 * 54 73525 800 E54 * 55 74325 800 E55 * 56 75125 800 E56 * 57 75925 800 E57 * 58 76725 800 E58 * 59 77525 800 E59 * 60 78325 800 E60 * 61 79125 800 E61 * 62 79925 800 E62 * 63 80725 800 E63 * 64 81525 800 E64 * 65 82325 800 E65 * 66 83125 800 E66 * 67 83925 800 E67 * 68 84725 800 E68 * 69 85525 800 E69 * * 70 4575 800 IA * 71 5375 800 IB * 72 6175 800 IC * * 74 6925 700 S01 * 75 7625 700 S02 * 76 8325 700 S03 * * 80 10525 700 S1 * 81 11225 700 S2 * 82 11925 700 S3 * 83 12625 700 S4 * 84 13325 700 S5 * 85 14025 700 S6 * 86 14725 700 S7 * 87 15425 700 S8 * 88 16125 700 S9 * 89 16825 700 S10 * 90 23125 700 S11 * 91 23825 700 S12 * 92 24525 700 S13 * 93 25225 700 S14 * 94 25925 700 S15 * 95 26625 700 S16 * 96 27325 700 S17 * 97 28025 700 S18 * 98 28725 700 S19 * 99 29425 700 S20 * * 100 3890 000 IFFREQ * */ -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 09:54:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02960 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02920 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA03681 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 05:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from richard@localhost) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) id NAA07476; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:07:57 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:07:57 GMT Message-Id: <199703271307.NAA07476@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Amancio Hasty In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:34:26 -0800 Organization: just say no Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, how is the card working over there ?? So far it tunes in the broadcast channels, but fxtv displays them in black-and-white and doesn't show the whole picture (there's also black space to the left and top of the picture). I'll let you know when there's more progress. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 09:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02974 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02946 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA03647 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 05:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from richard@localhost) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) id NAA07203; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:02:25 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:02:25 GMT Message-Id: <199703271302.NAA07203@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 0x22 <- what is this? > ^^^^ this is something unique we can key in on! I suspect it will be > a Philips SAA524x teletext chip. Yes, the UK version of the Hauppauge card (Win/TV) has teletext instead of intercast (WinCast). However there is also a PAL B/G version (for most of W Europe except France I think) that will need to be distinguished and presumably also has the teletext chip. > Am I correct in assumming your card doesn't have dbx (stereo)? Yes, TV stereo over here is NICAM digital stereo, and the card doesn't support it. > > 0xc2 <- this is the PLL in the tuner. I now have the Temic tuner data sheet. It says that C2 is always valid, and one of C0, C4 and C6 depending on the voltage on a certain pin. But none of these addresses responded. If I'm feeling brave this evening I will try to measure the relevant voltage. > If you would, please examine you card for the part #s on the ICs. The chips in the tuner are TSA5522T,TDA5737M,TDA9800T. The other chips on the card are the BT848 and the teletext chip - I'll mail that number when I get home. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 10:29:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07668 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07638 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11576 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wAJuP-000hxlC; Thu, 27 Mar 97 10:28 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Audio To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:28:20 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't suppose the Vibra16 is a full duplex chip? That's what's built into the Dell XPS P166s I'm using... The other odd thing is that when I copy an au file to /dev/audio, I get a few seconds of audio, then a few seconds of nothing, then a few seconds of audio. It doesn't pick up where it left off --- it seems to think it's playing out fine. -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 10:31:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07950 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07944 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from richard@localhost) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) id SAA22204; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:31:02 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:31:02 GMT Message-Id: <199703271831.SAA22204@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:49:22 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I suspect we are slightly mis-tuned Actually, now I have the Brooktree datasheet (thanks Amancio) I can see that there are more registers that need to be set differently for PAL, in particular the scaling registers and the AGC and burst delay register (the colour subcarrier frequency is different). I will try this later today and let you know. > Here's the philips table for your own experimentation: This table agrees exactly with mine for channels 21-69, which are the only ones used in the UK. These channels also seem be the same elsewhere in Western Europe. There's a list of channels for various systems at http://gemma.apple.com:80/dev/technotes/tn/tn1012.html Some of the other channels in the Philips list correspond to those listed for PAL B/G at the URL above; I suspect the Philips list reflects Dutch/German channels. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 10:37:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08533 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08528 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12057 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wAK2k-000hxlC; Thu, 27 Mar 97 10:36 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: pcmcia video capture To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On another note entirely, has anyone here played with pccard video capture? I noticed that PAO supports some IBM card that apparently doesn't exist, at least not as far as IBM's web page is concerned... I got to thinking about it after Steve Deering asked about a portable mbone station on the mbone list the other day, and think it would be cool to have a FreeBSD based one at the IETF in a little over a week... I do have a color quick cam, but, at least under Windoze, the quality, well, I suppose I shouldn't be picky because *nothing* really looks *good* under H.261... -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 11:05:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10674 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10660 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA11930; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703271904.MAA11930@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:31:02 GMT." <199703271831.SAA22204@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:53 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > Here's the philips table for your own experimentation: > > This table agrees exactly with mine for channels 21-69, which are the > only ones used in the UK. These channels also seem be the same elsewhere > in Western Europe. correct, it was the ones b4 21 and after 69 that are hosed... --- > There's a list of channels for various systems at > http://gemma.apple.com:80/dev/technotes/tn/tn1012.html good find! I've added a link for this to the webpage. keep us informed about your progress on the PAL stuff. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 12:06:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17144 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17123 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02302; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703272004.MAA02302@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Audio In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:28:20 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:04:56 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't the Vibra16 is full duplex.... Actually, I don't know of any CR soundcards which are true full duplex. Amancio >From The Desk Of Alan Batie : > I don't suppose the Vibra16 is a full duplex chip? That's what's built into > the Dell XPS P166s I'm using... The other odd thing is that when I copy an > au file to /dev/audio, I get a few seconds of audio, then a few seconds of > nothing, then a few seconds of audio. It doesn't pick up where it left off > --- it seems to think it's playing out fine. > > -- > Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. > batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. > +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown > D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 13:35:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24842 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24830 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA29554; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:34:42 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:34:41 GMT Message-Id: <27441.199703272134@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here's the EEPROM output for my Win/TV board: belhaven$ eeprom 0 256 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 11 00 00 04 48 09 02 10 0f 01 f1 db 00 00 90 41 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 d2 3e 05 00 74 02 01 00 03 79 e8 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 14:19:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28375 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28370 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14122; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:18:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703272218.PAA14122@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: Amancio Hasty , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Michael Petry , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: decoding EEProm contents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:18:22 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, here's my analysis of the EEProm contents so far. please confirm your serial #s (white barcode tag on back of board) and model #s. speakup with any theories that jump out at you... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL FORM: --- Steve: WinCast 401: 84 11 00 00 04 48 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 01 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 ad 10 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 17 12 79 e4 00 00 00 00 00 Louie: WinCast 401: 84 11 00 00 04 40 09 01 08 05 13 2f db 00 00 8c 01 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 a3 10 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 16 15 79 e2 00 00 00 00 00 Amancio: WinCast 401: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e1 18 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 15 14 79 a5 00 00 00 00 Michael: WinCast 400: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 01 08 05 13 25 db 00 20 89 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 87 e3 02 00 74 02 01 00 03 79 82 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Richard: Win/TV 406(?): 84 11 00 00 04 48 09 02 10 0f 01 f1 db 00 00 90 41 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 d2 3e 05 00 74 02 01 00 03 79 e8 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL ORDER, arbitrary groupings: --- Richard: Win/TV 406(?): 84 11 | 00 00 | 04 48 09 02 10 0f <- unique to PALI/teletext 01 f1 | db 00 | 00 90 | 41 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 <- COMMON to all d2 3e 05 00 <- serial# 343762 74 02 01 00 03 <- COMMON to NON dbx xx xx xx <- (missing compared to dbx) 79 <- COMMON to all e8 <- checksum ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff <- (empty) Michael: WinCast 400: 84 12 | 00 00 | 05 40 09 01 08 05 <- COMMON to NTSC 13 25 | db 00 | 20 89 | 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 <- COMMON to all 87 e3 02 00 <- serial# 189319 74 02 01 00 03 <- COMMON to NON dbx xx xx xx <- (missing compared to dbx) 79 <- COMMON 82 <- checksum 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 <- (empty) Steve: WinCast 401: 84 11 | 00 00 | 04 48 09 01 08 05 <- COMMON to NTSC 01 2f | db 00 | 00 8c | 01 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 <- COMMON to all ad 10 03 00 <- serial# 200877 77 02 01 03 03 <- common to dbx 43 17 12 <- suspected dbx alignment bytes 79 <- COMMON to all e4 <- checksum 00 00 00 00 00 <- (empty) Louie: WinCast 401: 84 11 | 00 00 | 04 40 09 01 08 05 <- COMMON to NTSC 13 2f | db 00 | 00 8c | 01 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 <- COMMON to all a3 10 03 00 <- serial# 200867 77 02 01 03 03 <- common to dbx 43 16 15 <- suspected dbx alignment bytes 79 <- COMMON to all e2 <- checksum 00 00 00 00 00 <- (empty) Amancio: WinCast 401: 84 12 | 00 00 | 05 40 09 01 08 05 <- COMMON to NTSC 01 2f | db 00 | 00 8c | 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 <- COMMON to all e1 18 03 00 <- serial# 200929 77 02 01 03 03 <- common to dbx 43 15 14 <- suspected dbx alignment bytes 79 <- COMMON to all a5 <- checksum 00 00 00 00 <- (empty) -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 14:42:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29846 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29838 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA02303; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:41:24 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:41:24 GMT Message-Id: <27477.199703272241@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 0x22 <- what is this? > ^^^^ this is something unique we can key in on! I suspect it will be > a Philips SAA524x teletext chip. The teletext chip is an SAA5246AGP/E. > > 0xc2 <- this is the PLL in the tuner. The TEMIC datasheet says that the tuner always accepts c2, and accepts c0, c4, and c6 according to the voltage on pin 11 of the tuner. I have measured the voltage on this pin, and it is not in any of the ranges for those addresses, so I guess it is correctly not responding to any of them. I have adjusted the AGC and burst delay registers for PAL, and the horizontal and vertical active and delay registers for PAL's image size, and I now get a colour picture on at least some channels. However alternate lines of the picture are missing (black, so the picture looks dim). Any idea what I might have missed? Of course I've also had to hack fxtv slightly too. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 14:51:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00469 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00461 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA02682; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:51:10 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:51:09 GMT Message-Id: <27487.199703272251@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: decoding EEProm contents To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:18:22 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Richard: Win/TV 406(?): Yes, it's a 406. > d2 3e 05 00 <- serial# 343762 That's right. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 17:09:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09441 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09434 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:08:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27866; Thu, 27 Mar 97 20:08:10 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA09862; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:08:10 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327200810.16216@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:08:10 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FXTV v0.3.1 References: <19970321175705.45910@ct.picker.com> <199703220232.TAA28406@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> <19970322130359.59843@ct.picker.com> <19970322163421.06844@ct.picker.com> <199703250144.UAA06750@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703250144.UAA06750@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Mon, Mar 24, 1997 at 08:44:32PM -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Louis A. Mamakos: |Pardon me for the stupid question, but with fxtv, does the image capture |button work? When I try it, it says: | | TVSCREENNewFrameHdlr() - Unsupported TrueColor conv | |My video display is of the 24 bits per pixel / 4 bytes per pixel pursuation. |It looks like things might work a bit differently in the 16 bits per pixel |case. Hi Louis. Sorry it took so long to reply, but I've been away on business last couple days. There isn't any image capture implemented in fxtv yet. But if you mean the snapshot button (camera icon) that freezes the video, it should work OK -- given that the X server returns the correct pixel geometry in the TrueColor visual info. That is, if the frame buffer is 24 bits per pixel with 4 bytes per pixel, the pixel depth is "32 planes" with R,G,B masks that just use 3 of the 4 bytes. E.g. from my card: visual: depth: 32 planes red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff The video and freeze frame both work OK. I'm guessing your X server visual info doesn't reflect the actual pixel geometry. Are you running with an XF86Config Depth line of 24 or 32? If 24 and if you know that the frame buffer mapping is really 4 bytes per pixel, this is probably the case. Do an xdpyinfo and look at the TrueColor visual to verify. Also, I'd be interested in a copy of the output. I'd like to help get you up-and-running if I can. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 17:47:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11185 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11173 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28396; Thu, 27 Mar 97 20:46:12 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA09928; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:46:11 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327204611.40929@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:46:11 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Steve Passe Cc: Thomas Arnold , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week References: <199703252136.OAA28951@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703252136.OAA28951@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Tue, Mar 25, 1997 at 02:36:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe: |in -current "man tsleep", no idea whether it is in 2.2 Sure is. /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c w/ man page. I get the same error as I mentioned last weekend when doing CAP_SINGLEs on 2.2-GAMMA w/ the 970322 driver: |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0f24 |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000f24 |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000754 |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0754 |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000624 |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0624 | | error=tsleep((caddr_t)bktr, METPRI, "capturing", hz); | |Since this is an ERESTART error (METPRI has PCATCH), is the right fix for |this to change this line to: | | while ((error=tsleep((caddr_t)bktr, METPRI, "capturing", hz)) == ERESTART) ; I don't know what the right fix is, but I can tell you it isn't that simple. :-) By experiment, the above is one easy way to lock your machine solid. I hadn't had a chance to dig into it further. |Sounds like this may be related to my seeing the video not capture both |frames on a CAP_SINGLE. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 17:55:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11601 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11588 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28559; Thu, 27 Mar 97 20:53:35 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA09938; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:53:46 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327205346.49374@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:53:46 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week References: <199703252049.MAA13279@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Wed, Mar 26, 1997 at 03:59:20PM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White: |Cool. I like fxtv myself. It really needs a keyboard channel changer |though. I have to be very careful about tweaking the virtual desktop to |get the screen aligned properly, and I hate mesing it up to change the |channel. :) That "careful tweaking" sounds familiar. I do the same thing myself. :-) I'll flip some keyboard accelerators for channel, volume, etc. in this weekend after I get back in step with the driver versions. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:08:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12255 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12250 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04434; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703280208.SAA04434@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Steve Passe , Thomas Arnold , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:46:11 EST." <19970327204611.40929@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:08:12 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Steve Passe: > |in -current "man tsleep", no idea whether it is in 2.2 > > Sure is. /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c w/ man page. I get the same error > as I mentioned last weekend when doing CAP_SINGLEs on 2.2-GAMMA w/ the > 970322 driver: > > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0f24 > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000f24 > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000754 > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0754 > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 1000624 > |bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error -1 2c0624 > | Reminder this error is due to the bt848 failing to deliver a video frame in single capture mode. When I get a breather from my contract I will tackle the problem. If you are not intimately familiar with the video capture process is a very difficult problem to solve. But hey if some of you feel adventurous go for it! Have fun guys! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:17:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12574 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12568 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28860; Thu, 27 Mar 97 21:16:05 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA09977; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:16:17 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327211617.15504@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:16:17 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 driver for this week References: <199703250954.BAA06338@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703250954.BAA06338@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Tue, Mar 25, 1997 at 01:54:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |Please don't be shy to post if something doesn't work right or |if you are not sure of how something should work. |It is important that we get feedback soon while the team is still "hot" 8) Well, the list is getting pretty small for my configuration. I've mentioned all of these in separate past messages, but just to get them in one place, here's what I've got leftover in my NOTES file for driver problems. BTW, this is based on the 970322 driver (been gone for a few days), but I can retest w/ the 970326b on Sat: - CAP_SINGLE doesn't capture 2 full fields (> 50% of the time) - video capture/sync gets whacked occasionally (details mailed last weekend [Re: bt848 video losing sync]) - tsleeps on CAP_SINGLE Thanks, Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:20:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12726 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12719 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28934; Thu, 27 Mar 97 21:19:26 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA09986; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:19:26 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327211926.19563@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:19:26 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Richard Tobin Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver References: <27477.199703272241@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <27477.199703272241@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>; from Richard Tobin on Thu, Mar 27, 1997 at 10:41:24PM +0000 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |I have adjusted the AGC and burst delay registers for PAL, and the |horizontal and vertical active and delay registers for PAL's image size, |and I now get a colour picture on at least some channels. However |alternate lines of the picture are missing (black, so the picture looks |dim). Any idea what I might have missed? Of course I've also had |to hack fxtv slightly too. Glad to hear your having success with your WinTV card. When you get to a good point, I'd of course be interested to your fxtv mods. I'll roll in your PAL support when you're ready. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:39:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13373 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13367 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04646; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:39:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703280239.SAA04646@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 to: Richard Tobin cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:19:26 EST." <19970327211926.19563@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:39:50 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try using a PCI to PCI mode. Not sure about fxtv but you are always welcome to download dtv-0.0 and hack it out to work in your environment. There is a problem with single capture with modes above 320x240 or whatever is half of PAL. PCI to PCI mode is activate by sending to the driver: ioctl(video, METEORSVIDEO, &meteor_video) And use continous capture mode. I think if you download dtv you will see how simple it is. ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/dtv-0.0.tar.gz Have fun, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > |I have adjusted the AGC and burst delay registers for PAL, and the > |horizontal and vertical active and delay registers for PAL's image size, > |and I now get a colour picture on at least some channels. However > |alternate lines of the picture are missing (black, so the picture looks > |dim). Any idea what I might have missed? Of course I've also had > |to hack fxtv slightly too. > > Glad to hear your having success with your WinTV card. When you get to a > good point, I'd of course be interested to your fxtv mods. I'll roll in > your PAL support when you're ready. > > Randall > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:43:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13676 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (root@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13654 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA23664; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:41:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703280241.LAA23664@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp Subject: Re: pcmcia video capture In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:58 -0800 (PST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:41:00 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alan, From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: pcmcia video capture Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: > On another note entirely, has anyone here played with pccard video capture? > I noticed that PAO supports some IBM card that apparently doesn't exist, at > least not as far as IBM's web page is concerned... I got to thinking about You mean "Smart Video Capture" ? If so, that product is made-in-Japan, and sold by IBM Japan. I got second-hand Smart Video Capture card around $120 in Akihabara, but there is also brad-new ones. which is sold around $300. http://www.ibm.co.jp/pc/option/capture/0485.html (the page is in Japanese, if you use Mozzila set Lang to Japanese) and also, the URL of PAO is: http://jaz.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/ Hope it helps. Naohiro Shichijo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 18:50:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13984 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13976 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29365; Thu, 27 Mar 97 21:49:29 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA10023; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:49:41 -0500 Message-Id: <19970327214940.40108@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:49:40 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 enhancements for this week References: <199703261237.HAA02315@netwolf.NetMasters.com> <199703261902.LAA05311@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.65 In-Reply-To: <199703261902.LAA05311@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Mar 26, 1997 at 11:02:13AM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |For apps which write directly to the vga's linear frame buffer you want |to be able to set the correct pixel order for the card. And for apps |which don't write directly to the frame buffer you can save byte |swapping in the X server by presenting a matching pixel order to |the X server. | |We need a way to modify IOCTL_GEO_RGB16 and IOCTL_GEO_RGB24 to pass along |the pixel order. Then in build_dma_prog set the appropiate |bits for bktr_color_ctl based upon capturing even, odd , or even and odd |frame, and the color depth 16 bits vs 32bits. What might be a nice interface for this is to have the driver accept 4 GEO values: the pixel depth, and 32-bit masks for R, G, and B: GEO_DEPTH GEO_R_MASK GEO_G_MASK GEO_B_MASK This is general and would cover byte swapping as well as being able to support other pixel formats supported by the hardware (e.g. 5-6-5 16bpp). The driver can fail the "set" ioctl for unsupported formats. >From an app perspective, a QUERY_GEO ioctl to get the supported formats would be a useful API to have along side. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 19:13:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15091 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15085 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04938; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:13:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703280313.TAA04938@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 enhancements for this week In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:49:40 EST." <19970327214940.40108@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:13:37 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I buy the concept. All what we need is someone with the databook to implement Randall's proposal and is not difficult to implement. Any takers, cause I am swamp/sweating with work related stuff. Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Amancio Hasty: > |For apps which write directly to the vga's linear frame buffer you want > |to be able to set the correct pixel order for the card. And for apps > |which don't write directly to the frame buffer you can save byte > |swapping in the X server by presenting a matching pixel order to > |the X server. > | > |We need a way to modify IOCTL_GEO_RGB16 and IOCTL_GEO_RGB24 to pass along > |the pixel order. Then in build_dma_prog set the appropiate > |bits for bktr_color_ctl based upon capturing even, odd , or even and odd > |frame, and the color depth 16 bits vs 32bits. > > What might be a nice interface for this is to have the driver accept 4 GEO > values: the pixel depth, and 32-bit masks for R, G, and B: > > GEO_DEPTH > GEO_R_MASK > GEO_G_MASK > GEO_B_MASK > > This is general and would cover byte swapping as well as being able to > support other pixel formats supported by the hardware (e.g. 5-6-5 16bpp). > The driver can fail the "set" ioctl for unsupported formats. > > From an app perspective, a QUERY_GEO ioctl to get the supported formats > would be a useful API to have along side. > > Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 21:51:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA21353 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21345 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA18814; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:50:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703280550.WAA18814@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Steve Passe cc: Richard Tobin , Amancio Hasty , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Michael Petry , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: decoding EEProm contents In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:18:22 MST." <199703272218.PAA14122@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:50:39 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, further analysis suggests that the label on the tin can will show the following numbers in large digits, please confirm: Richard: Win/TV 406(?): f1 db <- (hauppauge) tuner model# 56305 Michael: WinCast 400: 25 db <- (hauppauge) tuner model# 56101 Steve: WinCast 401: 2f db <- (hauppauge) tuner model# 56111 Louie: WinCast 401: 2f db <- (hauppauge) tuner model# 56111 Amancio: WinCast 401: 2f db <- (hauppauge) tuner model# 56111 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 27 22:41:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23578 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (root@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23569 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.6.12) id PAA24407; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:37:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199703280637.PAA24407@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: smp@csn.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 based card survey In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:03:03 -0700" References: <199703262303.QAA15821@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:37:59 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to be late, mine is Make/model: Happauge WinCast/TV dbx Model 401 Wincast/TV NTSC 56111 Rev C Tuner: Philips (label on the tuner box reads as follows:) +------------------+ |3139 147 12651P | |FI1236/F hm | |SV20 9543 | |MADE IN SINGAPORE | +------------------+ Tuner input: NTSC Country of use: Japan signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 0a 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xb6 0xc2 0xc6 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 11 00 00 04 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 03 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 09 17 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 14 14 79 88 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff --- Naohiro Shichijo The Univ. of Tokyo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 05:05:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09747 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA09742 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA18037; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:05:43 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:05:41 GMT Message-Id: <27629.199703281305@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Tuner AFC To: Steve Passe Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It turns out that some of the channels here aren't on precisely the official frequencies, so I wrote a program to do AFC. The AFC works using the 3 bottom bits of the tuner status register. When it's centred, they are 0 1 0. 1 0 0 means it's too low, 0 0 1 too high. The TEMIC datasheet refers to a 5-level ADC suggesting that it might return 1 1 0 or 0 1 1 but that doesn't seem to happen for me. -- Richard afc.c: #include #include #include #include #define AFC 7 #define MAX_STEP (5 * 16) /* Don't move more than 5 MHz */ void xerror(char *msg) { perror(msg); exit(1); } int main(int argc, char **argv) { int fd, f, step, stat; fd = open("/dev/tuner0", O_RDONLY); if(fd < 0) xerror("/dev/tuner0"); if(ioctl(fd, TVTUNER_GETFREQ, &f) < 0) xerror("getfreq ioctl"); printf("starting at %f MHz\n", f / 16.0); for(step = 0; step < MAX_STEP; step++) { if(ioctl(fd, TVTUNER_GETSTATUS, &stat) < 0) xerror("getstatus ioctl"); if((stat & AFC) == 2) { printf("stopped at %f MHz\n", f / 16.0); return 0; } if((stat & AFC) > 2) f++; else f--; if(ioctl(fd, TVTUNER_SETFREQ, &f) < 0) xerror("setfreq ioctl"); } printf("abandoned at %f MHz\n", f / 16.0); return 0; } From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 06:57:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13120 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA13113 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 06:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA22135; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:57:10 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:57:09 GMT Message-Id: <27703.199703281457@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:49:49 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I mis-interpreted this to mean your tuner was a SECAM... I'll change it. The fixed version (26b) still has two mistaken references to SECAM: in the comment for the 4062 tuner, and in the PALI tuner assignment in probeCard. Something else that needs to be changed is in METEORSETGEO. The magic numbers 910.0, 480.0 and 240.0 are NTSC-specific. I guess different numbers can be used depending on the format; this would mean that users would have to be sure to set the format *before* setting the geometry. Alternatively the driver could re-set the geometry when the format was changed. By the way, what is the magic number 1.21875 in METEORSETGEO. Is it the ratio of total horizontal pixels to display pixels? If so, that's different for PAL too. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 08:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19562 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19546 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA25549; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:41:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703281641.JAA25549@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:57:09 GMT." <27703.199703281457@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:41:20 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > I mis-interpreted this to mean your tuner was a SECAM... I'll change it. > > The fixed version (26b) still has two mistaken references to SECAM: > in the comment for the 4062 tuner, and in the PALI tuner assignment > in probeCard. found & fixed the one in probeCard(), can't find the comment you refer to for the 4062 tuner & SECAM. There is a seperate placeholder for a Temic SECAM tuner in the TUNER array, but I don't see it colliding with the TEMIC_PAL tuner. --- > Something else that needs to be changed is in METEORSETGEO. The magic > numbers 910.0, 480.0 and 240.0 are NTSC-specific. I guess different > numbers can be used depending on the format; this would mean that users > would have to be sure to set the format *before* setting the geometry. > Alternatively the driver could re-set the geometry when the format > was changed. > > By the way, what is the magic number 1.21875 in METEORSETGEO. Is it > the ratio of total horizontal pixels to display pixels? If so, that's > different for PAL too. no idea what their for, Amancio? I've put your comments in the source and replaced the above 4 #s with defines of MAGIC_[1-4] for now. get some alternate #s for PAL to me and I'll whip up some code to "do the good thing" based on input format. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 08:54:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20323 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20318 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 08:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA25681; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:54:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703281654.JAA25681@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tuner AFC In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:05:41 GMT." <27629.199703281305@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:54:35 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > It turns out that some of the channels here aren't on precisely the > official frequencies, so I wrote a program to do AFC. > > The AFC works using the 3 bottom bits of the tuner status register. > When it's centred, they are 0 1 0. 1 0 0 means it's too low, 0 0 1 > too high. The TEMIC datasheet refers to a 5-level ADC suggesting > that it might return 1 1 0 or 0 1 1 but that doesn't seem to happen > for me. according to the philips datasheet for the TSA5522 (ie the PLL being addresses) the legal values are 0 thru 4. according to the philips datasheet for the tuners it breaks down like this: Frequency (kHz): Value (binary): -125.0 000 -62.5 001 0.0 010 +62.5 011 +125.0 100 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 09:44:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23152 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23147 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA29128; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:44:16 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:44:15 GMT Message-Id: <27726.199703281744@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:41:20 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > found & fixed the one in probeCard(), can't find the comment you refer > to for the 4062 tuner & SECAM. Here it is with line numbers: 268 /* PLL on a Temic SECAM tuner: 4062FY5 */ 269 #define TEMIC_PALI_WADDR 0xc2 270 #define TEMIC_PALI_RADDR 0xc3 Can anyone tell me what the XTSEL bits in the IFORM register select? The driver sets them to XT0. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 10:04:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24321 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24310 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25272; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wAfzc-000hxlC; Fri, 28 Mar 97 10:03 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: pcmcia video capture To: shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Naohiro Shichijo) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:03:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703280241.LAA23664@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> from "Naohiro Shichijo" at Mar 28, 97 11:41:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You mean "Smart Video Capture" ? > If so, that product is made-in-Japan, and sold by IBM Japan. Yes, that's the one. Looks like I'm stuck with Quickcam for now... > http://www.ibm.co.jp/pc/option/capture/0485.html > (the page is in Japanese, if you use Mozzila set Lang to Japanese) I'm afraid that for me, while seeing it in Japanese makes it prettier than the ascii garbage otherwise displayed, it renders it no more intelligible. :-) -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 10:12:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24591 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24579 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA26563; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:12:07 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703281812.LAA26563@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:44:15 GMT." <27726.199703281744@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:12:07 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Here it is with line numbers: > ... evidently I'd already fixed it in my local source. --- > Can anyone tell me what the XTSEL bits in the IFORM register select? > The driver sets them to XT0. this picks one of 2 crystals for use as the fundimental oscillator. NTSC uses 3.58mHz, while PAL I would use 4.43mHz. Note that the actual crystal on your board will probably be 8 times that value, so it would be 4.43 * 8 == 35.44mHz (approximately, 4.43 is probably rounded off). i think the input used is arbitray, ie the card maker could choose to put either crystal on either input. IF they follow the brooktree suggested order: IF there are TWO crystals on the board (dual NTSC/PAL support) NTSC will be on XT0 (01b << 3) and PAL I will be on XT1 (10b << 3) I IF there is ONE crystal on the board (NTSC or PAL) The one crystal will be on XT0 (01b << 3) The databook chart for PAL I says IFORM should be: 0xx1 0011 where xx is the MUX input field. it further states that HSCALE should be 0x033c, ADELAY should be 0x7f, and BDELAY should be 0x72 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 12:30:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01584 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.boston.juno.com (x14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01579 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from n9ogk@juno.com) by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id P]R28078; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:29:36 EST To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <19970328.142354.4838.2.N9OGK@juno.com> References: <199703220039.KAA01126@mailbox.uq.edu.au> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,8,10-12 From: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:29:36 EST Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm leaving for a short time until I can get my other problems resolved (in other words, the hostname setup isn't working quite right). Jack You know you've been using UNIX enough when: * You remember UNIX commands faster than those for DOS. * You try to configure Win95 the same way you try to configure your X window manager. * Someone asks you what wordproc you use and you reply 'vi' (or your favorite text editor). * You type 'ls -a' instead of 'dir /w' in DOS. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 13:27:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04769 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04760 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA28534; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:26:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703282126.OAA28534@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tuner AFC In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:05:41 GMT." <27629.199703281305@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:26:32 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I encapsulated the code Richard Tobin wrote for AFC tuning into 2 new ioctl()s: TVTUNER_SAFC /* turn ON (Set) AutomaticFrequenctControl */ TVTUNER_CAFC /* turn OFF(Clear) AutomaticFrequenctControl */ this version (which includes all the other current fixes) is in: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/bt848.970328.tar.gz Richard, if you could test this I would appreciate it. I did limited testing by deliberatly offsetting the calculated frequency, but am curious to see it work in a real-case scenerio. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 16:25:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA16770 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16697 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00649; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:25:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703290025.QAA00649@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:57:09 GMT." <27703.199703281457@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:25:40 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Richard Tobin : > Something else that needs to be changed is in METEORSETGEO. The magic Well thats what you are supposed to do 8) > numbers 910.0, 480.0 and 240.0 are NTSC-specific. I guess different Read the data sheets which I made available to you pending upon which input format is detected by the B848 the calculations in meteorsetgeo need to be calculated accordingly. > numbers can be used depending on the format; this would mean that users > would have to be sure to set the format *before* setting the geometry. The card is fully capable of detecting the input format: Register number 4 (BKTR_IFORM) bits 2 - 0: 000 auto format 001 NTSC M 010 NTSC w/o pedestal (Japan) 011 PAL (B, D, G, H, I) input format 100 PAL (M) input format 101 PAL (N) input format 110 SECAM input format 111 Reserved > Alternatively the driver could re-set the geometry when the format > was changed. > > By the way, what is the magic number 1.21875 in METEORSETGEO. Is it Good Question! The formula in the Bt848 databook is wrong so I came up with my own formula 8) > the ratio of total horizontal pixels to display pixels? If so, that's > different for PAL too. Glad that you are volunteering Good Luck, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 17:51:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22638 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22633 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00620; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703290151.RAA00620@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: bttv linux driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 17:51:25 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Perhaps you didn't know but the linux bt848 driver originally only worked in PAL so if you like you can take a look at it for the correct calculations for PAL or at least between the datasheets and the bttv driver I think that you have all what is needed to implement PAL support. I can't help you guys right now because I am slaving away with work related stuff . Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 18:03:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23810 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23793 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:03:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15318 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wAnTJ-000hxlC; Fri, 28 Mar 97 18:02 PST Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: QuickCam To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, I've got 2.2.1-RELEASE w/PAO on a Toshiba Satellite 115CS, I got X running, fired up sdr and vic and Voila'! Video working like a champ, believe it or not in 8 Meg (my 420CDS has 24 meg, but it's at home). Never mind that big pause switching between windows! So, now I rebuild the kernel with qcam0: device qcam0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" conflicts device lpt0 at isa? port? tty I left the irq stuff off the lpt line, as the qcam(4) man page says to run the lpt port in polled mode when you have the qcam hooked up. I started off by adding "flags 1" to the qcam0 line, as the man page says detecting the qcam is flaky and that forces it on. With "flags 1" it says "qcam0 found at 0x378...", but when I try running qcamcontrol, the whole system locks up. You can switch between virtual terminals, but can't even get character echo or mouse movement (the man page says it uses a busywait in the kernel, so I assume that it's in that waiting for something that never shows up). I took out "flags 1", and get "qcam0 not found at 0x378". lpt0 is found at 0x378... Help! -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 28 20:52:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08287 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hamby1 (hamby1.lightside.net [207.67.176.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08281 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jehamby@localhost) by hamby1 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA00998 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:52:13 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:52:13 -0800 From: jehamby@lightside.com (Jake Hamby) Message-Id: <199703290452.UAA00998@hamby1> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Free software wavetable MIDI synthesizer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: A3esXVOOSya1tI5OgWDmzg== Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk With all the recent talk of Open Sound System for FreeBSD, I visited their web page and tried out the Solaris/x86 version. Upshot is, it sucks, and costs twice as much as the FreeBSD version. I wasn't really interested in either version, since my Soundblaster 16 is already supported by any OS with sound support, except for the mention of "software wavetable synthesis." Ah, but on their Web page, they mention a free program called Timidity which offers this for many flavors of UNIX, in addition to Windows, DOS, and MacOS. It sounds excellent (especially since you can use GUS patchfiles with it!), doesn't require OSS, and even offers your choice of Motif, TCL/Tk, or NCurses GUIs. I highly recommend it. Now my Sun at work can finally play MIDI! In fact, I'm thinking of porting it to BeOS, because it actually sounds BETTER than the software wavetable support that Be licensed for it. :) The URL is: http://www.clinet.fi/~toivonen/timidity/ Does anyone want to make a port? :) Cheers, Jake From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 07:12:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29770 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29763 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 07:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA24696; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:12:10 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:12:10 GMT Message-Id: <27837.199703291512@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Steve Passe Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define DMA_PROG_ALLOC 8 ... bktr->dma_prog = get_bktr_mem(unit, DMA_PROG_ALLOC); This appears to be allocating only 8 bytes for the DMA program??? -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 09:55:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04748 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04743 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 09:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13514; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:55:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703291755.KAA13514@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:12:10 GMT." <27837.199703291512@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:55:07 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > #define DMA_PROG_ALLOC 8 > ... > bktr->dma_prog = get_bktr_mem(unit, DMA_PROG_ALLOC); > > This appears to be allocating only 8 bytes for the DMA program??? I'm in the middle of upgrading machines to 2.2.1-R, my disk with that code exists only on tape at the moment. I probably wont be in a position to help with anything for several days.. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 10:59:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06772 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA06766 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA01325; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:59:33 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:59:32 GMT Message-Id: <28003.199703291859@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Amancio Hasty , Richard Tobin In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:25:40 -0800 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Something else that needs to be changed is in METEORSETGEO. The magic > Well thats what you are supposed to do 8) Yes, I know that :) > > By the way, what is the magic number 1.21875 in METEORSETGEO. Is it > > Good Question! The formula in the Bt848 databook is wrong so I came up with > my own formula 8) Right: the formulae in the databook are inconsistent. I'd like to know why rather than just plugging in numbers that seem to work. In particular, it says that the active portion is (for NTSC) 754 out of 910 unscaled pixels 640 out of 780 square pixels 720 out of 858 CCIR601 pixels These are all different proportions: 82.86%, 80.15% and 83.92% respectively. I also came across a description on NTSC with the figures given in uS instead of pixels, and that said the active portion is 52.4 out of 63.5 microseconds which is 82.52%, suggesting that the unscaled pixel version is closest to reality. Your calculation in the driver for calculating HSCALE corresponds to the second ratio. I wonder of you are missing a small piece of image off the end of each row as a result? Could you (or someone else with NTSC) change 1.21875 (ie 780/640) to 1.2069 (ie 910/754) in the horizontal scale calculation and see whether there is junk displayed at the end of each row? -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 11:49:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08941 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08936 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA02902; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:49:34 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:49:33 GMT Message-Id: <28024.199703291949@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: Tuner AFC To: Steve Passe In-Reply-To: Steve Passe's message of Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:26:32 -0700 Organization: just say no Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Richard, if you could test this I would appreciate it. The AFC works, but I'm not convinced that that TV_SETFREQ should return -1 if the AFC fails, because that makes fxtv unable to step past empty channels. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 12:00:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09853 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09822 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA14984; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:00:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703292000.NAA14984@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tuner AFC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:49:33 GMT." <28024.199703291949@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:00:13 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > The AFC works, but I'm not convinced that that TV_SETFREQ should return > -1 if the AFC fails, because that makes fxtv unable to step past empty > channels. I didn't have time to think thru the usage of this feature properly, was more interested in getting it working from a mechanical standpoint. Please suggest an alternate method of operation, I'm all ears!  -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 12:04:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10091 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (sc-gw.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10076 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA15034; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:04:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199703292004.NAA15034@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Authentication-Warning: Ilsa.StevesCafe.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tuner AFC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:55:45 GMT." <28029.199703291955@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:04:09 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > case TVTUNER_SAFC: > bktr->tuner.afc = TRUE; > *(int *)arg = 1; > break; > > case TVTUNER_CAFC: > bktr->tuner.afc = FALSE; > *(int *)arg = 0; > break; > > I don't see the point of returning 1 or 0 in arg since the > program knows what state it's set! If it returned the OLD value of > tuner.afc that would be far more useful. Or perhaps have SETAFC > and GETAFC which would allow a program to set an AFC button to the > right state when it starts. ie: > > case TVTUNER_SETAFC: > bktr->tuner.afc = *(int *)arg; > break; > > case TVTUNER_GETAFC: > *(int *)arg = bktr->tuner.afc; > break; again, not enough time, I just used them as placeholders for args... I like your last suggestion, ie TVTUNER_SETAFC & TVTUNER_GETAFC. People, play around with these variations and let me know what works best in real life. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 12:20:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10917 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10912 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10154; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:20:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703292020.MAA10154@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:12:10 GMT." <27837.199703291512@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:20:33 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Richard Tobin : > #define DMA_PROG_ALLOC 8 > ... > bktr->dma_prog = get_bktr_mem(unit, DMA_PROG_ALLOC); > > This appears to be allocating only 8 bytes for the DMA program??? > > -- Richard > get_bktr_mem allocates memory in terms of pages (4096 bytes) static vm_offset_t get_bktr_mem( int unit, unsigned size ) { vm_offset_t addr = 0; addr = vm_page_alloc_contig(size, 0x100000, 0xffffffff, 1<<24); if (addr == 0) addr = vm_page_alloc_contig(size, 0x100000, 0xffffffff, PAGE_SIZE); if (addr == 0) { printf("meteor%d: Unable to allocate %d bytes of memory.\n", unit, size); } return addr; } in /sys/vm/vm_page.c: vm_offset_t vm_page_alloc_contig(size, low, high, alignment) vm_offset_t size; vm_offset_t low; vm_offset_t high; vm_offset_t alignment; { return ((vm_offset_t)contigmalloc(size, M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT, low, high, alignment, 0ul)); } Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 13:17:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13685 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13675 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA05401; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:17:27 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:17:24 GMT Message-Id: <28054.199703292117@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Amancio Hasty In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:20:33 -0800 Organization: just say no Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > get_bktr_mem allocates memory in terms of pages (4096 bytes) No it doesn't! See what it does for the main memory: #define BROOKTREE_ALLOC (BROOKTREE_ALLOC_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE) ... ^^^^^^^^^^^ if ( BROOKTREE_ALLOC ) buf = get_bktr_mem(unit, BROOKTREE_ALLOC); -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 13:43:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15038 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15033 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11959; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:43:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703292143.NAA11959@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:17:24 GMT." <28054.199703292117@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:43:33 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Yes, it is my mistake. Please change it to: bktr->dma_prog = get_bktr_mem(unit, 8*4096); bktr->odd_dma_prog = get_bktr_mem(unit, 8*4096); If you have enough time please use a define symbol similar to BROOKTREE_ALLOC for allocating the dma program segments. The reason why it is working is because of round_page in vm_page.c rounds up to the nearest page so get_bktr_mem is getting 1 Page (4096 bytes). For sure it needs to be fixed! Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Tobin : > > get_bktr_mem allocates memory in terms of pages (4096 bytes) > > No it doesn't! > > See what it does for the main memory: > > #define BROOKTREE_ALLOC (BROOKTREE_ALLOC_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE) > ... ^^^^^^^^^^^ > if ( BROOKTREE_ALLOC ) > buf = get_bktr_mem(unit, BROOKTREE_ALLOC); > > -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 14:37:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17694 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17689 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA08222; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:37:41 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:37:41 GMT Message-Id: <28072.199703292237@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver To: Amancio Hasty In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Sat, 29 Mar 1997 13:43:33 -0800 Organization: just say no Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The reason why it is working is because of round_page in vm_page.c > rounds up to the nearest page so get_bktr_mem is getting 1 Page (4096 bytes). I think I was having problems because the DMA program has a few instructions for each scan line, and PAL has more lines than NTSC! I will shortly be releasing a version with PAL support for testing (I don't know if there are any other PAL users out there, but I want to know whether I've broken the NTSC code). -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 14:53:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18547 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18542 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12381; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:53:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703292253.OAA12381@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Richard Tobin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newest bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:37:41 GMT." <28072.199703292237@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:53:28 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh, there are other PAL users some of them I believe are just hiding out. Okay Luigi, where are you?? ---- Yeap, the default dma_prog size allocation per the bug that you reported for sure will not work for PAL. Here is an approximate breakdown for NTSC (640*480 interlace) for a single frame (240*320). 3840 = Interlaced lines * (full word size) * (4 instructions) 240 * 4 * 4 Plus a few more full words so the frame fits within the 4096 memory segment. Looking forward to the NTSC/PAL version 8) Have fun guys, Amancio >From The Desk Of Richard Tobin : > > The reason why it is working is because of round_page in vm_page.c > > rounds up to the nearest page so get_bktr_mem is getting 1 Page (4096 bytes ). > > I think I was having problems because the DMA program has a few > instructions for each scan line, and PAL has more lines than NTSC! > > I will shortly be releasing a version with PAL support for testing (I > don't know if there are any other PAL users out there, but I want to > know whether I've broken the NTSC code). > > -- Richard > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 29 16:29:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24616 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24608 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.197.19]) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA12424 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:29:24 GMT Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 00:29:23 GMT Message-Id: <28115.199703300029@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: bt848 driver with PAL support To: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:53:28 -0800 Organization: just say no Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, the first version of the bt848 driver with PAL support is now available at ftp://ftp.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/pub/richard/bt848.970329-rmt.tar.gz Please try it even if you're an NTSC user, to verify that it still works. Maybe someone could put a link to it on the web page. To be precise, it supports PAL-I as used in the UK and some other countries, but changes for other versions of PAL should be trivial (I don't think we know how to distinguish the various PAL tuners, but I don't know if we have to). There are still bugs. In full resolution (768x576) one field is often not updated, producing bizarre ghosting. I've also changed Steve's interface to AFC. It's now int onoff; ioctl(fd, TVTUNER_SETAFC, &onoff); ioctl(fd, TVTUNER_GETAFC, &onoff); This allows you to query whether AFC is on so that (eg) you can set a toggle to the right state, or restore the original state. Something should be added to let a program determine whether AFC was successful or not, and maybe enabling AFC should also do it immediately. Randall: fxtv will need to be able to select a channel set for each of antenna and cable modes; I'll look at this tomorrow. -- Richard