From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 04:13:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24905 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24898; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09446; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:13:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 12:13:09 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: ashworth@cs.montana.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ensoniq sound card In-Reply-To: <337DFB13.CEF5C9BA@spacehog.structured.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 May 1997, Justin Ashworth wrote: > Has anybody gotten an Ensoniq sound card to work with FreeBSD. If so, > how? I have one which works with OSS. Look at www.4front-tech.com web pages. Its pretty cheap for a commercial product, although it is still in beta. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 09:35:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02983 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02978 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00510 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 12:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: WinCast TV - some hope? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gang: This morning as a last resort before giving up on the current hardware configuration, I move the WIncast TV card into another slot and hooked up a VCR with to the RCA jack. I actualy got video to show under fxtv, and it looked good (still getting tsleep errors, but no crashes) However, when I switched to regular coax, nothing came out. When going through the RCA jack does it bypass the tuner? Just checking.. Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 09:56:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03567 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03562 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23233; Sun, 18 May 1997 10:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705181656.KAA23233@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV - some hope? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 12:35:42 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:56:30 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > This morning as a last resort before giving up on the current hardware > configuration, I move the WIncast TV card into another slot and hooked up > a VCR with to the RCA jack. I actualy got video to show under fxtv, and it > looked good (still getting tsleep errors, but no crashes) > > However, when I switched to regular coax, nothing came out. When going > through the RCA jack does it bypass the tuner? yes, it bypasses the tuner. one thing you could try is getting a "signature" for this card with this program: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/sign.c return its output and I'll look for any clues. what this program does is scan the board for all the parts that it uses to determine the board type. it might be that they changed the address of something on us. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 11:22:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05930 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05921 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01850; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Steve Passe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV - some hope? In-Reply-To: <199705181656.KAA23233@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > return its output and I'll look for any clues. what this program does is > scan the board for all the parts that it uses to determine the board type. > it might be that they changed the address of something on us. Hi Steve: Thanks for taking time to look at this. The following is the "signature": signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xc2 Hope that helps! Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 11:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06525 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06520 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 11:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00336; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:35:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: smp@csn.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV - some hope? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just to clarify, it says: Model 400 on the box and NTSC on the label on the tuner. I just compiled a kernel with the probe hardwired to Temic NTSC, which didn't work. I suspect this board probably has a Phillips NTSC tuner. Bernie > > signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: > > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 > > > i2c device found @ > 0xa0 > 0xc2 > > > Hope that helps! > > Thanks. > > Bernie > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 12:05:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07257 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07251 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA23353; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV - some hope? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 18 May 1997, Bernie Doehner wrote: > This morning as a last resort before giving up on the current hardware > configuration, I move the WIncast TV card into another slot and hooked up > a VCR with to the RCA jack. I actualy got video to show under fxtv, and it > looked good (still getting tsleep errors, but no crashes) > > However, when I switched to regular coax, nothing came out. When going > through the RCA jack does it bypass the tuner? You did change the input port to Tuner after testing the VCR on the RCA ports, right? It doesn't change automatically. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 12:12:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07473 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07466 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02768; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Doug White cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WinCast TV - some hope? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > However, when I switched to regular coax, nothing came out. When going > > through the RCA jack does it bypass the tuner? > > You did change the input port to Tuner after testing the VCR on the RCA > ports, right? It doesn't change automatically. Yes, I did. Steve finally seems to have found the problem.. This (supposedly Wincast/TV model 400 is reporting the NTSC WADDR as 0xc2, which is seems to be proper for a PAL tuner). On Steve's suggestion, I am hardwiring to Philip NTSC and with modified WADDR. Let's see what happens then. If I can't get this to work soon I am ready to return this card. Amancio might be right, it would be PCI 2.1 non-compliance, but I really don't have the cash right now to buy a new vintage PCI board, so either this works soon, or I'll have to return this card. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 12:59:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09579 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de (rztsun.rz.tu-harburg.de [134.28.200.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09569 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19970512105639.44853@ct.picker.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:50:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralph Thomas Aussem To: Randall Hopper Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Randal, >A few questions and things to try: > >1) Which version of the driver are you using I tried the following with the 3.0 SNAPSHOT 0205 > >2) By "the display changes too" do you mean that when you, for example, > adjust the brightness up, you see the screen get brighter? Yes > >3) When you change tuner/video, what visual cues do you have that anything > happened -- you said you see the video signal change? Yes. If I use xtvr I can HEAR the voice but only see snow on the window of fxtv > >4) As the screen gets brighter do you see solid white or do you see any > background static in there? At the end I only see a white screen... > > The fact that you see something change with the appearance controls > confirms that the driver is dumping images into the driver memory buffer. > >5) Sounds like either 1) the tuner isn't tuned right, 2) the video signal > is somehow being disabled, or 3) there's a problem in fxtv with the > color-space conversion code that crops up on your particular video card. > > If its one of the former two, whether you see static or not will help point > that out. In case its the latter, try playing with the colorbar and > pixel swapping options with direct video disabled (which you said > is what its defaulting to). E.g.: > > fxtv -disableDirectV -colorbars -nobswap2Bpp I see the colorbars ! > >6) If your card supports it, run in other color depths (8,15,16,24,32 bits > per pixel) and see if you get the same result. 8, 15, 16 and 24 Bits no change :-( > >6) Finally, please mail me the output of: > > "fxtv -debug startup", and --------------------- snip ------------------- Active visual does not support direct video ...backing off and using XImages fxtv Querying Supported Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 1.00 Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 2 PseudoColor 8 1 00000000, 00000000, 00000000 -- No 0 DirectColor 8 1 00000007, 00000038, 000000c0 -- No 1 GrayScale 8 1 00000000, 00000000, 00000000 -- No 0 StaticColor 8 1 00000007, 00000038, 000000c0 -- No 0 TrueColor 8 1 00000007, 00000038, 000000c0 -- No 0 StaticGray 8 1 00000000, 00000000, 00000000 -- No Default Visual is 8-bpp PseudoColor XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 0.07 6x6x6 Color Cube Allocated --------------------- snip -------------- > "xdpyinfo" --------------------- snip ----------------- name of display: :0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc vendor release number: 3200 maximum request size: 4194300 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 2 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 9, maximum 117 focus: window 0x240000d, revert to Parent number of extensions: 15 BIG-REQUESTS DOUBLE-BUFFER MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RECORD SHAPE SYNC XC-MISC XFree86-DGA XFree86-Misc XFree86-VidModeExtension XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters) resolution: 75x75 dots per inch depths (2): 1, 8 root window id: 0x2a depth of root window: 8 planes number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1 default colormap: 0x26 default number of colormap cells: 256 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store YES, save-unders YES largest cursor: 64x64 current input event mask: 0x58003d KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask SubstructureNotifyMask SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask number of visuals: 6 default visual id: 0x20 visual: visual id: 0x20 class: PseudoColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x21 class: DirectColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 8 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0x7, 0x38, 0xc0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x22 class: GrayScale depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x23 class: StaticColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x7, 0x38, 0xc0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x24 class: TrueColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 8 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0x7, 0x38, 0xc0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits visual: visual id: 0x25 class: StaticGray depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 6 bits -------------------- snap ------------------ > > and which video card you're using. bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. Hope this helps... From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 14:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13458 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13451 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00303 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705182125.OAA00303@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: gimp-devl and script-fu? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:25:32 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone managed to get scrip-fu working with the latest gimp? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:11:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17880 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17875 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola72.scsn.net ([206.25.247.72]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA42; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:03:59 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola72.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00366; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970518181055.36095@cola72.scsn.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:10:55 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <199705182125.OAA00303@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <199705182125.OAA00303@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, May 18, 1997 at 02:25:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Has anyone managed to get scrip-fu working with the latest gimp? > > Tnks, > Amancio Depends on how you define working :-) It seems that a lot of the scripts fail because of wrong argument counts to some functions. I guess the scripts need to be updated... I've also found that I usually have to 'rm -rf ~/.gimp', and let gimp recreate it every time I install a new version, or lots of stuff fails to work... -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:17:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18289 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18284 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00418; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705182217.PAA00418@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 18:10:55 EDT." <19970518181055.36095@cola72.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Have you managed to get the script "Logos with Eeire Alien Glows" working? I get "ERROR: Procedural database execution failed (gimp_text). Got no clue what that means 8) Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Donald J. Maddox" : > On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 02:25:32PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone managed to get scrip-fu working with the latest gimp? > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > Depends on how you define working :-) It seems that a lot of the scripts > fail because of wrong argument counts to some functions. I guess the scripts > need to be updated... > > I've also found that I usually have to 'rm -rf ~/.gimp', and let gimp > recreate it every time I install a new version, or lots of stuff fails > to work... > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:23:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18528 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18523 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola72.scsn.net ([206.25.247.72]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA142; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:16:15 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola72.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00418; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970518182311.16534@cola72.scsn.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:23:11 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970518181055.36095@cola72.scsn.net> <199705182217.PAA00418@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <199705182217.PAA00418@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, May 18, 1997 at 03:17:42PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Hi, > > Have you managed to get the script "Logos with Eeire Alien Glows" working? > > I get "ERROR: Procedural database execution failed (gimp_text). > > Got no clue what that means 8) > > Tnks, > Amancio > Yeah, that one works for me... Sounds like maybe you need to install the 'freefonts' port. A lot of the scripts use freefont fonts. -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:29:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18718 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18706 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00559 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705182229.PAA00559@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: guspnp7 minor release Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk GUSPNP7 5/18/97 This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. This is a minor sound driver release for the GUS PnP Pro and GUS Max. There is no new functionality in this release . The difference between a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO is that the Pro comes with 512kb. I went out an got a 1mb 60ns 30pin simm and installed it on my GUS PnP. I own a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO. To unpack: cd / mv /sys/i386/isa/sound /sys/i386/isa/sound.old cd /sys/i386/isa/ tar -xzf guspnp7.tar.gz **DO NOT RUN the configure program in /sys/i386/isa/sound** cd /sys/i386/conf Edit the kernel config file in /sys/i386/conf IF YOU HAVE A GUS MAX or GUS add the option NOGUSPNP to the config file OPTIONS NOGUSPNP THEN follow the instructions for NONPNP CONFIGURATION PNP CONFIGURATION To configure your guspnp PRO if you have a motherboard which supports PnP: controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? vector gusintr NONPNP CONFIGURATION To configure your guspnp PRO if your motherboard does NOT support PnP: device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 1 flags 0x3 vector gusintr the gus pnp is fully software configurable and the above configuration is setup for full duplex audio. The dma channel settings are: drq 1 --- DMA channel for playback flags 0x3 --- DMAN channel for recording config cd /sys/compile/ make make install THERE IS NO NEED TO BOOT TO DOS TO CONFIGURE YOUR GUS PNP. THE DRIVER HAS BUILTIN SUPPORT FOR PNP WHICH I GOT FROM THE GRAVIS DRIVER DEVELOPMENT KIT Many thanks to Brian Litzinger for porting the sound driver 3.5 to 2.2-current. Well, that was a while ago hence the reference to 2.2. Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:40:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19341 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19329 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola72.scsn.net ([206.25.247.72]) by rosie.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0121 ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA143; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:33:00 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cola72.scsn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00478; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970518183954.62343@cola72.scsn.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:39:54 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970518181055.36095@cola72.scsn.net> <199705182217.PAA00418@rah.star-gate.com> <19970518182311.16534@cola72.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <19970518182311.16534@cola72.scsn.net>; from Donald J. Maddox on Sun, May 18, 1997 at 06:23:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 06:23:11PM -0400, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Have you managed to get the script "Logos with Eeire Alien Glows" working? > > > > I get "ERROR: Procedural database execution failed (gimp_text). > > > > Got no clue what that means 8) > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > > > Yeah, that one works for me... Sounds like maybe you need to install the > 'freefonts' port. A lot of the scripts use freefont fonts. > Oops, looks like I spoke too soon. Just tried it and I get: ERROR: too few arguments (see errobj) (gimp_palette_set_foreground) A lot of them work, though, if you have freefonts installed. -- Donald J. Maddox (dmaddox@scsn.net) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:52:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19827 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19820 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01251; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705182252.PAA01251@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 18:39:54 EDT." <19970518183954.62343@cola72.scsn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:52:49 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks, freefonts did the trick over here and yes "Logos with Eeire Alien Glows" still does not work over here and as you said other scripts do work. Amancio >From The Desk Of "Donald J. Maddox" : > On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 06:23:11PM -0400, Donald J. Maddox wrote: > > On Sun, May 18, 1997 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Have you managed to get the script "Logos with Eeire Alien Glows" working ? > > > > > > I get "ERROR: Procedural database execution failed (gimp_text). > > > > > > Got no clue what that means 8) > > > > > > Tnks, > > > Amancio > > > > > > > Yeah, that one works for me... Sounds like maybe you need to install the > > 'freefonts' port. A lot of the scripts use freefont fonts. > > > > Oops, looks like I spoke too soon. Just tried it and I get: > > ERROR: too few arguments (see errobj) (gimp_palette_set_foreground) > > A lot of them work, though, if you have freefonts installed. > > -- > > > Donald J. Maddox > (dmaddox@scsn.net) > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 15:56:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19925 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com ([204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19903 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA21699; Sun, 18 May 1997 17:55:16 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost.lodgenet.com [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA16995; Sun, 18 May 1997 17:55:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705182255.RAA16995@jake.lodgenet.com> To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gimp-devl and script-fu? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 14:25:32 PDT." <199705182125.OAA00303@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:55:07 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > > >Has anyone managed to get scrip-fu working with the latest gimp? > I expect you need to install the freefonts port as well, I should probably set the dependancy... > Tnks, > Amancio > eric. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 17:33:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23276 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 17:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (bparker.ne.highway1.com [24.128.47.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23270 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 17:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc (sparc [204.253.111.2]) by compaq.parker.boston.ma.us (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14175; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:33:33 GMT Message-Id: <199705190033.AAA14175@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 May 1997 19:31:33 PDT." <199705160231.TAA13862@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 20:33:32 -0400 From: Brad Parker Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: >I am still waiting for your system configuration --- take your time 8) Sorry - Gateway P5/120, 32mb (Intel Alladin motherboard w/Triton PIIX) PCI AHA-2940, 3c590, Diamond S3, Wintv ISA SB-16 >Yes, vic works over here fine . ... >Hmmm... I wonder if you have the latest driver or something else is >wrong. Our vic uses METEOR_GEO_UNSIGNED | METEOR_GEO_YUV_422; ... Interesting. I was using a "hacked" version of vic which I got from a site claiming it would work with linux and a meteor (it did). I did not realize that they whacked the encode portion to use PACKED... I switched to a stock version of vic (which used the PLANAR mode) and it works... oh well. I should have guessed. No wonder it worked for you. >Looking a little bit more into the driver . Just fill out an entry >for YUV_422 and YUV_PACKED and make sure that the mode type is set to >to the respective video format: METEOR_GEO_YUV_422 and METEOR_YUV_PACKED. >Currently, yuv_422 and yuv_packed dont use any byte or word swapping on >the Bt848. Yes, it's all clear now. I did get "packed 4:2:2 mode working", finally, but only by turning on byte and word swapping and making some fixes. I think the dma program for packed 422 is slightly wrong: - it has some strange "b" offset write; I took this out - the odd field sync and the final sync looks for the wrong frame (the 'case 3' should look for an odd field and the final sync should look for an even I believe) - the fifo threshold setting ('capcontrol' looks wrong - the 5 should be 6) - there's an extra jmp at the end of the code; I removed it - most of the dma code seems to generate 2-3 more interrupts than it needs to (for debugging?) I'll try this again under freebsd tommorow. Thanks for all you help. -brad From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 18:04:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24345 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24340 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00363; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705190104.SAA00363@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brad Parker cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions about current bt848 code In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 20:33:32 EDT." <199705190033.AAA14175@compaq.parker.boston.ma.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:04:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Just thinking about the devil 8) Well, I am just going over the driver right now and I am working on the yuv_422 section of the driver. I should have a patch for the driver sometime this week. >From The Desk Of Brad Parker : > > Amancio Hasty wrote: > >I am still waiting for your system configuration --- take your time 8) > > Sorry - Gateway P5/120, 32mb (Intel Alladin motherboard w/Triton PIIX) > PCI AHA-2940, 3c590, Diamond S3, Wintv > ISA SB-16 > > >Yes, vic works over here fine . > ... > >Hmmm... I wonder if you have the latest driver or something else is > >wrong. Our vic uses METEOR_GEO_UNSIGNED | METEOR_GEO_YUV_422; > ... > > Interesting. I was using a "hacked" version of vic which I got from a > site claiming it would work with linux and a meteor (it did). I did > not realize that they whacked the encode portion to use PACKED... > > I switched to a stock version of vic (which used the PLANAR mode) and > it works... oh well. I should have guessed. No wonder it worked for > you. > > >Looking a little bit more into the driver . Just fill out an entry > >for YUV_422 and YUV_PACKED and make sure that the mode type is set to > >to the respective video format: METEOR_GEO_YUV_422 and METEOR_YUV_PACKED. > >Currently, yuv_422 and yuv_packed dont use any byte or word swapping on > >the Bt848. > > Yes, it's all clear now. I did get "packed 4:2:2 mode working", > finally, but only by turning on byte and word swapping and making some > fixes. > > I think the dma program for packed 422 is slightly wrong: > - it has some strange "b" offset write; I took this out Hmm... care to send that section of the code cause I can find it over here. > - the odd field sync and the final sync looks for the wrong frame > (the 'case 3' should look for an odd field and the final sync should look > for an even I believe) > - the fifo threshold setting ('capcontrol' looks wrong - the 5 should be 6) Hmm.... static void yuv422_prog( bktr_ptr_t bktr, char i_flag, int cols, int rows, int interlace ){ int i; volatile unsigned int inst; volatile u_long target_buffer, t1, buffer; bt848_ptr_t bt848; volatile u_long *dma_prog; bt848 = bktr->base; dma_prog = (u_long *) bktr->dma_prog; bktr->capcontrol = 1 << 6 | 1 << 4 | 3; That looks okay to me... Check your driver against: ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/brooktree848.c > - there's an extra jmp at the end of the code; I removed it > - most of the dma code seems to generate 2-3 more interrupts than it needs > to (for debugging?) Yes, it was mostly for debugging. > I'll try this again under freebsd tommorow. Thanks for all you help. > > -brad Best Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 18:45:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA25458 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pendor.mckusick.com (root@pendor.woof.NET [199.245.174.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25451 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from benco@localhost) by pendor.mckusick.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA27570 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:45:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Cottrell Message-Id: <199705190145.SAA27570@pendor.mckusick.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Question about GUS MAX driver Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi y'all, Sorry if this is a FAQ; I browsed the archives but couldn't find anything specifically relating to my problem. I have a GUS MAX (1M memory), and I can play audio on it fine with FreeBSD (for the most part; the first four seconds of sound are funky, and the kernel logs a log of errors like "isa_dmastart: channel 5 busy", but that's okay, I'm not picky). I have it set for IRQ 11, DRQ 5, flags 6, which should theoretically allow for full-duplex and 16-bit DMA. The problem comes when I try to record. The symptoms are so weird that I can't explain them in a coherent manner, but here is what I'm seeing, in no particular order: * Spontaneous play-thru (line in gets copied to line out). There is some signal degradation here so I *assume* that it's going through an A/D and D/A conversion, but I'm not positive. * When I do any operations on /dev/dsp2 (the CS4231, according to sndstat) an odd, subtle flanging effect creeps into above. * wavrec, however, sees none of this. When I record a WAV of my radio playing into line-in, with the level in the mixer set to maximum, I play it back and get no signal, just odd crackling that seems to come from no particular source--I tried plugging a mike into the microphone jack too--no difference. * Sometimes I get a "Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?" kernel log. I'm running a kernel compiled from the 3.0-970209-SNAP sources. Anyone know what's up, or can point me to some documentation somewhere? I poked through the files in /sys/i386/isa/sound, but device drivers are my least favorite and least understood bit of the kernel, I'm afraid. Thanks! ~Ben From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 19:15:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26516 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26511 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 19:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00321; Sun, 18 May 1997 19:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705190215.TAA00321@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Ben Cottrell cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question about GUS MAX driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 18:45:45 PDT." <199705190145.SAA27570@pendor.mckusick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:15:18 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you try out the latest sound driver which I posted? ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp7.tar.gz I made a couple of simple mods to accommodate the gus max. Amancio >From The Desk Of Ben Cottrell : > Hi y'all, > > Sorry if this is a FAQ; I browsed the archives but couldn't find anything > specifically relating to my problem. > > I have a GUS MAX (1M memory), and I can play audio on it fine with FreeBSD > (for the most part; the first four seconds of sound are funky, and the > kernel logs a log of errors like "isa_dmastart: channel 5 busy", but that's > okay, I'm not picky). I have it set for IRQ 11, DRQ 5, flags 6, which should > theoretically allow for full-duplex and 16-bit DMA. > > The problem comes when I try to record. The symptoms are so weird that I > can't explain them in a coherent manner, but here is what I'm seeing, in no > particular order: > * Spontaneous play-thru (line in gets copied to line out). There is > some signal degradation here so I *assume* that it's going through > an A/D and D/A conversion, but I'm not positive. > * When I do any operations on /dev/dsp2 (the CS4231, according to > sndstat) an odd, subtle flanging effect creeps into above. > * wavrec, however, sees none of this. When I record a WAV of my > radio playing into line-in, with the level in the mixer set to > maximum, I play it back and get no signal, just odd crackling > that seems to come from no particular source--I tried plugging a > mike into the microphone jack too--no difference. > * Sometimes I get a "Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?" > kernel log. > > I'm running a kernel compiled from the 3.0-970209-SNAP sources. > > Anyone know what's up, or can point me to some documentation somewhere? I > poked through the files in /sys/i386/isa/sound, but device drivers are my > least favorite and least understood bit of the kernel, I'm afraid. > > Thanks! > ~Ben From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 21:34:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02401 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 21:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02396 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 21:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA01010 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 00:34:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: any other Wincast/mono owners out there? (+ STB WinTV not keeping sync?) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Just wondering, am I the only person running a Wincast/mono under FreeBSD? If you also have one under FreeBSD, PLEASE drop me a line. After finaly getting the tuner coded correctly for my Wincast/mono (probe was incorrectly detecting as Temic PAL), I could pick up one strong local UHF channel, but this card was having a difficult time keeping vertical sync (picture was jittery in the vertical direction). Also, the VHF offsets seem to be off, because I could get channel 10,12 (which are copyable on a TV through the same antenna). I am going to send this one back, and getting either a Wincast dbx (which many of you seem to have) or a STB. Steve mentioned that the STB card he used to have had a lot more trouble syncing that his current wincast/tv dbx. I wonder if that is generaly true or if maybe some of you with newer STB cards can comment on wether STB's still have more trouble locking than Wincasts. I am wondering if the failure to sync is a reflection on product quality or just poor quality control. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 22:32:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03865 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03859 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA01813; Mon, 19 May 1997 08:32:35 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:32:35 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705190532.IAA01813@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: VideoCDs Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried reading one of the video-cd's I have with my freebsd 2.2-stable and toshiba drive. Initially the attempt failed since my toshiba drive was left to a wrong operating mode by cd-da utilities. After resetting the drive, all went well, both reading the data itself and obviously the directory structure. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 22:34:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03951 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpress.com (mpress.com [208.138.29.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03946 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19355 invoked by uid 100); 19 May 1997 05:34:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19970518223426.63773@mpress.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 22:34:26 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger To: Charles Henrich Cc: j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? References: <5liddk$prh$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <199705162047.QAA05694@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705162047.QAA05694@crh.cl.msu.edu>; from Charles Henrich on Fri, May 16, 1997 at 04:47:09PM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >As Amancio Hasty wrote: > > >> Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code > >> to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. > >> the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can > >> read the directory structure however the actual video stream is still > >> pretty much Phillips format and in fact the blocks are not even 2048. > I think jordan wrote: > >I suppose that's yet another vendor-specific format (like CD-DA), > >not covered by the SCSI-2 standard? > >Is it covered by SCSI-3? On May 16, Charles Henrich wrote: > One should be able to tell cdd to read the track as raw data and output it to > stdout for processing by a videoCD application.. Sorry to be so late in getting in on this conversation. The format of VideoCD/CDI diskettes is the proprietary property of Sony and Philips. I sent $350 to the appropriate people and wrote the code that Amancio is often refering to. You can basically say briansprogram /dev/cdc0 track13 | your_mpeg1_systemsstream_decoder It even will display a catalog of the tracks on the CDROM. I then met with representatives of Philips and showed them the cool things I could do with software. I asked if I could publish the source, they said no. More exactly they said I couldn't publish anything that would "give away" the definition of the format. 8-( I'll call them up, and see if things have changed. With DVD around they might not be so tight fisted with VideoCD/CDI. Personally, I've never understood how letting the format be public knowledge would cost them anything. I've wanted to write a filter for Charles Henrich's cdd to that you could do cdd | briansfilter | your_mpeg1_systemsstream_decoder Which would minimize the amount of code involved which is object only. Maybe some clever sole could reverse engineer the briansfilter part. I'll try to find some time to write briansfilter. -- Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun May 18 23:19:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA05071 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05064 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA04036; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:41:56 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705190541.HAA04036@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: any other Wincast/mono owners out there? (+ STB WinTV not keeping sync?) To: bad@uhf.wireless.net (Bernie Doehner) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:41:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Bernie Doehner" at May 19, 97 00:34:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi: > > Just wondering, am I the only person running a Wincast/mono under FreeBSD? > > If you also have one under FreeBSD, PLEASE drop me a line. > > After finaly getting the tuner coded correctly for my Wincast/mono (probe > was incorrectly detecting as Temic PAL), I could pick up one strong local > UHF channel, but this card was having a difficult time keeping vertical > sync (picture was jittery in the vertical direction). I have a Hauppauge WinTV but there should be no difference for the problems you report. try to add BT848_ADC_SYNC_T in the defininition of SYNC_LEVEL; this reduces the threshold for sync levels from 125mf to 75mf, and it helps a lot here. Also, I am a bit uncertain if BT848_ADC_CRUSH should really be used there, because it adds a sort of AGC which (apparently at least) only works in the direction of reducing sensitivity. > Also, the VHF offsets seem to be off, because I could get channel 10,12 > (which are copyable on a TV through the same antenna). yes, I noticed that, you can specify the frequency and it should work. > Steve mentioned that the STB card he used to have had a lot more trouble > syncing that his current wincast/tv dbx. I wonder if that is generaly true > or if maybe some of you with newer STB cards can comment on wether STB's > still have more trouble locking than Wincasts. > > I am wondering if the failure to sync is a reflection on product quality > or just poor quality control. I guess just pooor sensitivity. The Hauppauge (temic tuner) is not impressive either. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 00:21:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07197 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07191 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01337 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705190721.AAA01337@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 May 1997 22:34:26 PDT." <19970518223426.63773@mpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 00:21:31 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you Brian. And to the group I hope that others respect when someone signs an NDA. One thing is to talk "about" a technical procedure as opposed to actually describing in detail the technical procedure. With respect to Philips and Sony licensing on CDI and VideCD, even if a hacker manages to crack the CDI or VideoCD , for instance, I who originally decoded the CDI format, can not publish the source and for binary distribution I have to have a license. Since Brian already has a license from Philips , I suspect that he will be able to give us binary in the form of a library or as he suggests a "filter". I said: > > Let me make it plain . I can't tell you because along the way I > signed an NDA with Omnimedia . Now if you talk nicely to Brian > Litzinger he ^^^^^^^^^ jkh@time.cdrom.com said: > Argh. So we're back to hardware assist again? I guess we've passed > what can be reasonably discussed in such an oblique fashion so I'll > just go away now with the conclusion that no, it can't be done and > maybe if you had Amancio's Special Secret Setup you could do it but > we don't so we can't. :-) > Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know > which. All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than > when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these > stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-) Amancio >From The Desk Of Brian Litzinger : > > >As Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > >> Jordan, we can play read both CDI and VideoCD. I wrote the original code > > >> to read CDI . Brian should be able to step in and explain again. > > >> the videocd format is not really ISO9660 compliant . yes, you can > > >> read the directory structure however the actual video stream is still > > >> pretty much Phillips format and in fact the blocks are not even 2048. > > > > I think jordan wrote: > > >I suppose that's yet another vendor-specific format (like CD-DA), > > >not covered by the SCSI-2 standard? > > >Is it covered by SCSI-3? > > On May 16, Charles Henrich wrote: > > One should be able to tell cdd to read the track as raw data and output it to > > stdout for processing by a videoCD application.. > > Sorry to be so late in getting in on this conversation. The format of > VideoCD/CDI diskettes is the proprietary property of Sony and Philips. > > I sent $350 to the appropriate people and wrote the code that Amancio is > often refering to. > > You can basically say > > briansprogram /dev/cdc0 track13 | your_mpeg1_systemsstream_decoder > > It even will display a catalog of the tracks on the CDROM. > > I then met with representatives of Philips and showed them the > cool things I could do with software. > > I asked if I could publish the source, they said no. More exactly > they said I couldn't publish anything that would "give away" the > definition of the format. 8-( > > I'll call them up, and see if things have changed. With DVD around > they might not be so tight fisted with VideoCD/CDI. > > Personally, I've never understood how letting the format be public > knowledge would cost them anything. > > I've wanted to write a filter for Charles Henrich's cdd to that you > could do > > cdd | briansfilter | your_mpeg1_systemsstream_decoder > > Which would minimize the amount of code involved which is object > only. Maybe some clever sole could reverse engineer the > briansfilter part. > > I'll try to find some time to write briansfilter. > > -- > Brian Litzinger > brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 00:26:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA07309 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07304 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01381; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705190725.AAA01381@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net (Bernie Doehner), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: any other Wincast/mono owners out there? (+ STB WinTV not keeping sync?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 1997 07:41:55 +0200." <199705190541.HAA04036@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 00:25:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > Also, I am a bit uncertain if BT848_ADC_CRUSH should really be used > there, because it adds a sort of AGC which (apparently at least) only > works in the direction of reducing sensitivity. Well, lets be a bit more certain here 8) Investigate, experiment and please let us know what you find out;specially since you are using PAL. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 01:36:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10019 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09938 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA04171; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:53:17 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705190753.JAA04171@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: any other Wincast/mono owners out there? (+ STB WinTV not keeping sync?) To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:53:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705190725.AAA01381@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at May 19, 97 00:24:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > > > Also, I am a bit uncertain if BT848_ADC_CRUSH should really be used > > there, because it adds a sort of AGC which (apparently at least) only > > works in the direction of reducing sensitivity. > > Well, lets be a bit more certain here 8) > > Investigate, experiment and please let us know what you find out;specially > since you are using PAL. What I did was to provide a different mode in addition to NTSC & PAL, which would grab only the top 32 lines (VBI) (I know there is a better way, i.e. program the Bt848 to grab the VBI lines only etc. etc., but I was uncertain on how to actually use this, if a reprogram of the DMA was necessary or not. It appears that, when setting CRUSH, the vertical gain is reduced on occurrence of ADC overflows, and the image becomes dimmer and dimmer as time goes by. This seems consistent with what is reported on the manpage for the ADC interface register, which does not mention the possibility of increasing the gain back again (nor it could, since the mechanism is driven by ADC overflows and there is no inverse condition). I think a good default for this register is 0xC0 corresponding to the SYNC_T bit set only (plus the reserved one). I don't think it's a PAL issue. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 01:38:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10078 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA10072 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA13513; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:37:55 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03920; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:14:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970519101441.GD00201@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:14:41 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: brian@mpress.com (Brian Litzinger) Cc: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? References: <5liddk$prh$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <199705162047.QAA05694@crh.cl.msu.edu> <19970518223426.63773@mpress.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970518223426.63773@mpress.com>; from Brian Litzinger on May 18, 1997 22:34:26 -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Brian Litzinger wrote: > I then met with representatives of Philips and showed them the > cool things I could do with software. > > I asked if I could publish the source, they said no. More exactly > they said I couldn't publish anything that would "give away" the > definition of the format. 8-( You need an ambituous guy here in Europe. It is allowed for us to re-engineer some software if this is the only possible way to find about the interface description, and you can prove that you need it. (No, i'm not the guy for this. I have too little interest in multimedia stuff, and way too few time. It probably requires a student with too much time. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 01:40:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10154 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10107 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02014; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705190838.BAA02014@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: any other Wincast/mono owners out there? (+ STB WinTV not keeping sync?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 1997 09:53:17 +0200." <199705190753.JAA04171@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:38:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > I think a good default for this register is 0xC0 corresponding to the > SYNC_T bit set only (plus the reserved one). I don't think it's a PAL > issue. I didn't think it was a PAL issue however it is nice to know how the board is behaving on that part of the world. Tnks for the report! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 03:27:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA13516 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA13511 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 6:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14674; Mon, 19 May 97 06:25:47 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA17376; Mon, 19 May 1997 06:24:55 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519062455.04433@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 06:24:55 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Richard Tobin Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Web DATABASE(WAS Re: Bt848 on P55T2P4-P100oc) References: <199705141557.QAA03149@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705141557.QAA03149@stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>; from Richard Tobin on Wed, May 14, 1997 at 04:57:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Tobin: |I'm using Win/TV (that's the Euro version - teletext instead of intercast). | |> Any problems? | |Yes; it can't keep up with the frames at full (PAL) window size when |the screen resolution is 1024x768. No problem at 800x600. Presumably |the screen refresh is using too much of the video memory bandwidth, so |reducing the refresh rate would also fix it, and you *may* not have so |much problem with NTSC (640x480x30 instead of 768x576x25). | |[Presumably it accesses 4MB in wider chunks than 2MB, otherwise it |wouldn't be able be display at all!] | |I guess this is a problem with single-ported video memory in general. I had my Wincast working fine in 1024x768x16 w/ a 2Meg EDO DRAM Hercules Stingray 64/Video (refresh of 70Hz). I'll bet your right in that on your card at the higher res, the refresh circuitry is tying up too much of the DRAM memory bandwidth, but it doesn't appear that all single-ported RAM results in this problem. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 04:24:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA15703 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 04:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA15698 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 04:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 7:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15443; Mon, 19 May 97 07:23:30 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA17610; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:22:39 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519072239.04380@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:22:39 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Bernie Doehner , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wincast/TV troubles (Temic PAL tuner) References: <199705180243.TAA24175@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705180243.TAA24175@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sat, May 17, 1997 at 07:43:24PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |If you go with an ASUS motherboard and a fx or vx model you should be |all set. Or hx (Triton 2) -- e.g. P55T2P4. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 04:54:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16717 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 04:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.vis.net.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16702 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 04:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.vis.net.uk [194.207.134.1]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27200; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:56:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:56:39 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Joerg Wunsch cc: Brian Litzinger , Charles Henrich , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? In-Reply-To: <19970519101441.GD00201@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 May 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Brian Litzinger wrote: > > > I then met with representatives of Philips and showed them the > > cool things I could do with software. > > > > I asked if I could publish the source, they said no. More exactly > > they said I couldn't publish anything that would "give away" the > > definition of the format. 8-( > > You need an ambituous guy here in Europe. It is allowed for us to > re-engineer some software if this is the only possible way to find > about the interface description, and you can prove that you need it. > > (No, i'm not the guy for this. I have too little interest in > multimedia stuff, and way too few time. It probably requires a > student with too much time. :) Stupid question perhaps, but I have a large green book here at work titled CD-I - Fully Functional Specification. I didn't buy this, the company did. Assuming I read the specs and then wrote a driver would I get sued or would the company that owned the specs that I read get sued ? Assume the company I work for has the VideoCD spec. as well... if I read that while working at this company and then quit the job, would I still be sueable if I then wrote a driver and released the source code. Surely there is some way for someone to actually legally see the specs and then write a driver and release the code without getting sued ? Basically, by reading a spec you haven't automatically signed an NDA, but does a company who has the spec have an obligation to the owner of the spec to make anyone who reads it also legally subject to the NDA (and sign one?) ? (Does that make sense ?) Legal Person ? (Oh, yes, I'm in Europe - England). -- Steve Roome Technical Systems Manager, Vision Interactive Ltd. E: steve@visint.co.uk M: +44 (0) 976 241 342 T: +44 (0) 117 973 0597 F: +44 (0) 117 923 8522 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 09:30:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01155 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01150; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA05799; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wTVJp-000hy2C; Mon, 19 May 97 09:29 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? To: pete@sms.fi (Petri Helenius) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, joerg@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705170503.IAA06191@silver.sms.fi> from "Petri Helenius" at May 17, 97 08:03:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As in other hand all of the current DVD-players are accounted as > having stunning picture quality. Pardon the mild diversion from devices capable of running FreeBSD :-) The Pioneer units seem to have an odd mottling artifact in some places. I have to admit that I didn't notice it until David G. pointed it out; I haven't been able to catch it with the other players. The Sony is supposed to be the best, but the remote is just on the verge of unusable. I'm probably going to with the cheap Toshiba, as nothing I have supports component video, and it's probably a waste to spend more on 1rst generation hardware. -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 10:40:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06361 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06354 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00358 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:40:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: to be Philips or to be Temac (Wincast question) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gang: Making some progress.. Enabling AFC now let's me get aquire a few more channels (although it's still jumpy) so I assume AFC must be working. Now that I have AFC, I am about to play with the SYNC again. JUST one question, please only reply if you know the following statement to be false. Wincast boards, use Philips Tuner Win/TV (PAL) boards, use Temic tuner. I am very tempted to open to metal can, but if I do that I destory any possibility of returning this board. Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 11:13:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08711 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08705 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27979; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705191813.MAA27979@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: to be Philips or to be Temac (Wincast question) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 1997 13:40:47 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:13:27 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Making some progress.. Enabling AFC now let's me get aquire a few more > channels (although it's still jumpy) so I assume AFC must be working. Now > that I have AFC, I am about to play with the SYNC again. > > JUST one question, please only reply if you know the following statement > to be false. > > Wincast boards, use Philips Tuner > > Win/TV (PAL) boards, use Temic tuner. the problem is that the 2 tuners are almost exactly identical (I suspect that the temic was derived from the philips as a 'second source'). someone opened a temic and found it to be full of philips parts. so the bottom line is that a manufacturer might change from temic to philips (or visa-versa) during the lifetime of a product, thus the above statement could change in validity over time... --- > I am very tempted to open to metal can, but if I do that I destory any > possibility of returning this board. my first step would be to look under the wincast label to see if the original manufacturer's label is there. I'm not sure what cound be deternmined by looking inside the can, but you might luck out and find a label of some sort. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 11:18:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08903 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08897 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01960; Mon, 19 May 1997 14:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Steve Passe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: to be Philips or to be Temac (Wincast question) In-Reply-To: <199705191813.MAA27979@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > the problem is that the 2 tuners are almost exactly identical (I suspect that > the temic was derived from the philips as a 'second source'). someone opened > a temic and found it to be full of philips parts. so the bottom line is that > a manufacturer might change from temic to philips (or visa-versa) during > the lifetime of a product, thus the above statement could change in validity > over time... I am starting to see what you mean. Currently I have it probing as a Philips/NTSC (because that seemed more probable), but it also worked under Temic before. Ok, more to come soon. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 13:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14132 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14127 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA20109; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Steve Passe cc: Bernie Doehner , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: to be Philips or to be Temac (Wincast question) In-Reply-To: <199705191813.MAA27979@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 May 1997, Steve Passe wrote: > my first step would be to look under the wincast label to see if the original > manufacturer's label is there. I'm not sure what cound be deternmined by > looking inside the can, but you might luck out and find a label of some sort. In case you don't like the idea of ripping off the whole label, the Philips tuner has 'PHILIPS' embossed into the top of the can, along the bottom edge. The Toshiba Inifnita PCs have a Bt848-based board in them and there isn't a label on the tuner can. I can't remember the original vendor of the card, but it's basically a Hauppauge 45x. The vendor of the Win95 drivers was 'Brooktree Corporation.' Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 16:02:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24809 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24804; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 19:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10975; Mon, 19 May 97 19:01:19 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA18910; Mon, 19 May 1997 19:00:27 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519190027.40387@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:00:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Ryan Loots Cc: FreeBSD questions , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TV Card References: <33802d39.461096@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Ryan Loots on Mon, May 19, 1997 at 01:22:32PM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ryan Loots: |Hi There, | |Does anyone know if there are any TV card drivers/options for FreeBSD. The |card only comes with Windowze drivers. | |--Ryan Sure are. The latest and greatest support is for the Hauppauge Wincast & WinTV, STB TV PCI, and Intel Smart Video Recorder III cards (all based on the Bt848 capture chip). There's also some older support for the Matrox Meteor (maybe a few others). Here's the URL with links to the latest TV apps and driver rev, along with general info on the Bt848 driver project: http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html If you have questions (e.g. about the whether someone is already running with hardware similar to yours), you might Cc: the multimedia@freebsd.org list -- most of FreeBSD-TVers hang out over there :-) Randall Hopper From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 16:20:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25397 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25392 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 19:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11207; Mon, 19 May 97 19:19:58 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA18925; Mon, 19 May 1997 19:19:07 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519191907.11238@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:19:07 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 users: A request Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For anyone that's using the Bt848 driver, you might take a minute and fill out the hardware survey form John-Mark put together: http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi One good reason... Occasionally there are posts to the other FreeBSD lists and NetNews where people are asking about FreeBSD support for TV cards. I can't think of something that would likely nudge someone into buying a card more than for them to see/hear that one or more of the cards has been tested under FreeBSD on a system config like theirs. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 16:55:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27168 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27163 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29143; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:55:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705192355.RAA29143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 users: A request In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 1997 19:19:07 EDT." <19970519191907.11238@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:55:07 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > For anyone that's using the Bt848 driver, you might take a minute and > fill out the hardware survey form John-Mark put together: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi is it my imagination, or is the "TV Card" field not ending up in the database? I don't see it listed for any of the existing entries. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 17:24:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28331 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28301 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12093; Mon, 19 May 97 20:23:06 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA19024; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:22:09 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519202209.27860@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:22:09 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Steve Passe Cc: jmg@hydrogen.nike.efn.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 users: A request References: <19970519191907.11238@ct.picker.com> <199705192355.RAA29143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705192355.RAA29143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Mon, May 19, 1997 at 05:55:07PM -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe: |> http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi | |is it my imagination, or is the "TV Card" field not ending up in the |database? I don't see it listed for any of the existing entries. E'gads--I'm imagining it too. John-Mark, can you take a look at this? Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 18:00:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00858 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00853 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 19 May 1997 21:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12564; Mon, 19 May 97 21:00:03 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA19160; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:59:11 -0400 Message-Id: <19970519205911.38692@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:59:11 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Ralph Thomas Aussem Cc: Steve Passe , richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 References: <19970512105639.44853@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Ralph Thomas Aussem on Sun, May 18, 1997 at 09:50:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk These things together seem to indicate that there's a problem with the driver WinTV tuner support for for your area of Germany. Your best bet is probably one of the driver gurus. Steve & Richard, any suggestions on the best route to take here? Ralph Thomas Aussem: |>3) When you change tuner/video, what visual cues do you have that anything |> happened -- you said you see the video signal change? |Yes. If I use xtvr I can HEAR the voice but only see snow on the window |of fxtv |> The fact that you see something change with the appearance controls |> confirms that the driver is dumping images into the driver memory buffer. |> fxtv -disableDirectV -colorbars -nobswap2Bpp |I see the colorbars ! |>6) If your card supports it, run in other color depths (8,15,16,24,32 bits |> per pixel) and see if you get the same result. |8, 15, 16 and 24 Bits no change :-( |> and which video card you're using. |bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 |Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 18:25:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01553 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01547 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 18:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29416; Mon, 19 May 1997 19:24:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705200124.TAA29416@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Randall Hopper cc: Ralph Thomas Aussem , richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems with bt848 in FreeBSD 2.2.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 May 1997 20:59:11 EDT." <19970519205911.38692@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:24:20 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > |>3) When you change tuner/video, what visual cues do you have that anything > |> happened -- you said you see the video signal change? > |Yes. If I use xtvr I can HEAR the voice but only see snow on the window > |of fxtv not having seen the full message I can only guess, but it sounds like the wrong set of frequencies are being used. xtvr can't set for frequencies other that the drivers defaults. fxtv however can choose any of the legal sets. is the Fxtv file set to: Fxtv.antennaFreqSet: weurope to use xtvr you could change brooktree848.c: #define DEFAULT_CHNLSET CHNLSET_NABCST to: #define DEFAULT_CHNLSET CHNLSET_WEUROPE -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 20:24:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06769 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06764 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 20:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04178 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 May 1997 05:23:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: CD audio: jitter correction? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 05:23:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I hope this is the right place to post questions like this. As you might know, I have written a program for FreeBSD that reads digital audio via the SCSI bus. So far I haven't bothered to implement any jitter correction, because it works perfectly well without j.c. with all three drives which I'm able to test it with (a NEC and a Toshiba CD-ROM drive, and a Philips/IMS CD writer). Now my question is: How important is jitter correction? Do only older drives need it? Or am I just lucky that my drives work without? By the way: would it be appropriate to make the program a FreeBSD package, or would that not be worth the effort? I'm a bit hesitant since I've never done that before, but a tool to read CD digital audio seems to be missing in the FreeBSD ports/packages collection so far. If anyone is interested in the program, it's available from this web page: http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ Best regards Oliver Fromme -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon May 19 23:17:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15768 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-13.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15763 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15851; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970519231836.21927@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:18:36 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Steve Passe Cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 users: A request References: <19970519191907.11238@ct.picker.com> <199705192355.RAA29143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705192355.RAA29143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Mon, May 19, 1997 at 05:55:07PM -0600 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe scribbled this message on May 19: > Hi, > > > For anyone that's using the Bt848 driver, you might take a minute and > > fill out the hardware survey form John-Mark put together: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jmg/cgi-bin/bt848.cgi > > is it my imagination, or is the "TV Card" field not ending up in the database? > I don't see it listed for any of the existing entries. thanks... it's now being displayed now... ttyl... -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 01:22:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22448 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22443 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA06110; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:21:33 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:21:33 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199705200821.LAA06110@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD audio: jitter correction? In-Reply-To: <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> References: <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oliver Fromme writes: > > Hello, > > I hope this is the right place to post questions like this. > > As you might know, I have written a program for FreeBSD that > reads digital audio via the SCSI bus. So far I haven't > bothered to implement any jitter correction, because it works > perfectly well without j.c. with all three drives which I'm > able to test it with (a NEC and a Toshiba CD-ROM drive, and a > Philips/IMS CD writer). > > Now my question is: How important is jitter correction? > Do only older drives need it? Or am I just lucky that my > drives work without? > You are lucky. However the CDD-utility has since been fixed to work properly with toshiba drives also with freebsd-2.2.X and includes jittercontrol so I don't see a need for that any longer. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 03:35:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA27336 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA27330 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 20 May 1997 6:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20213; Tue, 20 May 97 06:35:11 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA19450; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:34:18 -0400 Message-Id: <19970520063418.05165@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 06:34:18 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Reading CD-DA off Sony IDE-CD in FreeBSD? References: <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Tue, May 20, 1997 at 05:23:34AM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oliver Fromme: |As you might know, I have written a program for FreeBSD that |reads digital audio via the SCSI bus. So far I haven't ... |If anyone is interested in the program, it's available from |this web page: http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ Has anyone seen code to do this under FreeBSD? I've seen some DOS utils, but it'd be nice to do this under our OS. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 06:58:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA04385 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04360 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06896 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:57:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705201357.PAA06896@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: CD audio: jitter correction? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:57:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Petri Helenius writes: > Oliver Fromme writes: > > [...] > > Now my question is: How important is jitter correction? > > Do only older drives need it? Or am I just lucky that my > > drives work without? > > > You are lucky. However the CDD-utility has since been fixed to work > properly with toshiba drives also with freebsd-2.2.X and includes > jittercontrol so I don't see a need for that any longer. Are you sure that you aren't just unlucky? So far, I have received reports from quite a lot of people that it works fine without "jitter", but only one report from a person who had a problem with that (using a pretty old drive, AFAIR). By the way, "tosha" supports a lot more drives than just Toshiba. In fact I believe that all major vendors of SCSI CD-ROM drives and CD writers are supported. Best regards Oliver Fromme -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 07:52:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07000 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06995 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11149; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970520105214.51408@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:52:14 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: New release of CDD (CD-DA, RawCD access tool) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELENG Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just put together a new release of CDD which should properly handle Toshiba mechs. I've tested it on the XM5401, and it seems to work just golden. It also handles Plextor peachy. There is code for the HP CDR's, but its not been tested. Please let me know if you have any problems! Its available at ftp://ftp.scnc.k12.mi.us/pub/misc/cdd-1.0-970519.tgz -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 07:55:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07151 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07145 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16895; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705201455.HAA16895@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD audio: jitter correction? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 May 1997 05:23:34 +0200." <199705200323.FAA04178@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 07:55:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When you get a chance , can you make a ports and package for tosha? Also can we add a pointer to your web page which describes tosah in the FreeBSD Multimedia page? Tnks, Amancio web page. I just w >From The Desk Of Oliver Fromme : > > Hello, > > I hope this is the right place to post questions like this. > > As you might know, I have written a program for FreeBSD that > reads digital audio via the SCSI bus. So far I haven't > bothered to implement any jitter correction, because it works > perfectly well without j.c. with all three drives which I'm > able to test it with (a NEC and a Toshiba CD-ROM drive, and a > Philips/IMS CD writer). > > Now my question is: How important is jitter correction? > Do only older drives need it? Or am I just lucky that my > drives work without? > > By the way: would it be appropriate to make the program a > FreeBSD package, or would that not be worth the effort? I'm > a bit hesitant since I've never done that before, but a tool > to read CD digital audio seems to be missing in the FreeBSD > ports/packages collection so far. > > If anyone is interested in the program, it's available from > this web page: http://www.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/tosha/ > > Best regards > Oliver Fromme > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 11:47:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18889 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpress.com (mpress.com [208.138.29.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18882 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7148 invoked by uid 100); 20 May 1997 18:47:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19970520114711.15527@mpress.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:47:11 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger To: Stephen Roome Cc: Joerg Wunsch , Charles Henrich , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? References: <19970519101441.GD00201@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Stephen Roome on Mon, May 19, 1997 at 12:56:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I then met with representatives of Philips and showed them the > > > cool things I could do with software. > > > > > > I asked if I could publish the source, they said no. More exactly > > > they said I couldn't publish anything that would "give away" the > > > definition of the format. 8-( On May 19, Stephen Roome wrote: > Stupid question perhaps, but I have a large green book here at work > titled CD-I - Fully Functional Specification. > > I didn't buy this, the company did. Assuming I read the specs and then > wrote a driver would I get sued or would the company that owned the specs > that I read get sued ? > > ... I'm in the US. So I have UScentric opinions. Does that go without saying 8-) That is _the_ book. It is generally a good idea to have the 'White Book' too. I suspect your company was required to sign a company-wide NDA which automatically includes everyone at the company. Now if you took it home, and your room-mate read it... However, your company might still be liable. I'm going to pursue the library api type functionality and a sample filter. I will also use CDD or tosha as the engine for reading the mode 2 form 2 sectors. Does CDD or tosha support the Plexor drive? -- Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 13:16:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23239 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23233 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09125; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:16:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705202016.WAA09125@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? To: brian@mpress.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 22:16:30 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19970520114711.15527@mpress.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at May 20, 97 11:47:11 am From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian Litzinger writes: > I'm going to pursue the library api type functionality and a sample > filter. I will also use CDD or tosha as the engine for reading > the mode 2 form 2 sectors. Does CDD or tosha support the Plexor > drive? Tosha does. I just tried to read a Video CD track with it, and it seems to work fine (I normally don't do that, since I have a "real" Video CD player -- though being able to play Video CDs under FreeBSD would be kind of cool ;-). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 13:18:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23325 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23314 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13367; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970520161753.00838@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:17:53 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: Brian Litzinger Cc: Stephen Roome , Joerg Wunsch , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? References: <19970519101441.GD00201@uriah.heep.sax.de> <19970520114711.15527@mpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <19970520114711.15527@mpress.com>; from Brian Litzinger on Tue, May 20, 1997 at 11:47:11AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELENG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm going to pursue the library api type functionality and a sample > filter. I will also use CDD or tosha as the engine for reading > the mode 2 form 2 sectors. Does CDD or tosha support the Plexor > drive? Yep, CDD supports Plextor's quite well. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 14:22:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26807 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26778; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06845; Tue, 20 May 97 17:20:52 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA21927; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:20:00 -0400 Message-Id: <19970520171959.31091@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:19:59 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: AWE32/SB32 Driver Upd w/ Doom Music Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I took some time out a few days ago and updated Takashi's latest AWE32 Synth Driver (0.4.0pre2) for FreeBSD 2.2.1: http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/midi.html It should pop right into your kernel with no problems--just uncomment the FreeBSD lines in the Makefiles. The drvmidi and sfxload tools are also updated. Note that you can load SBKs, SF2s, and GUS patches directly with sfxload now (no conversion required). I also extended his DOOM musserver patch to support AWE32 music on FreeBSD. Sounds real cool. (Now if someone were to extend the Linux emulation to support their SVGALIB, we'd be all set :-) Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 15:11:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00219 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00214 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cascade.cs.ubc.ca (cascade.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.7]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA26250 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (mkerr@localhost) by cascade.cs.ubc.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) id PAA03902 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Kerr" Message-Id: <9705201510.ZM3900@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:10:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gravis Ultrasound MAX and microphone to speaker output Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE with a newer driver for the GUS MAX that supports the GUS PnP. The minor mod to support the gus MAX was done. The driver was ftped from http://rah.star-gate.com/ I have a GUS MAX and I record from the microphone and play sounds to the speaker at the same time. However, when the microphone and speaker-out are ON at the same time, the sound from the microphone is immediately sent to the speaker. I would like to digitize the sound from the microphone and then play it back at a volume level consistent with the rest of the sounds I am playing. I have heard it may not be possible to fix via software and that there may be a hardware solution by cutting the signal on the board. (if it is a hardware mod please let me know what trace to cut). I use mbone applications and vat-4.0b1 DOES work as advertized in full duplex BUT the volume controls do not function at all. Also I have a problem with the mixers. I have tried mixers: jmix0.2a, xmix-2.1, and vmix0.3(couldn't get it to run). The volume controls do not function as labeled. Example, the synth volume control changes the volume comming from the CD-player but CD volume does nothing. Spkr volume control doesn't work either. Is there a newer mixer or is it something else? Any hints would be much appreciated Mike mkerr@cs.ubc.ca From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue May 20 20:19:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13516 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13511 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA02714; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Michael Kerr cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound MAX and microphone to speaker output In-Reply-To: <9705201510.ZM3900@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Michael Kerr wrote: > I have a GUS MAX and I record from the microphone and play sounds to the > speaker at the same time. However, when the microphone and speaker-out are ON > at the same time, the sound from the microphone is immediately sent to the > speaker. I would like to digitize the sound from the microphone and then play > it back at a volume level consistent with the rest of the sounds I am playing. Hm, I was under the impression that the GUSs don't feedback audio through the speaker. I have a PnP but it doesn't do this. > I use mbone applications and vat-4.0b1 DOES work as advertized in full > duplex BUT the volume controls do not function at all. They work OK on the PnP. I wonder if the available mixer controls aren't working properly. > Also I have a problem with the mixers. I have tried mixers: jmix0.2a, > xmix-2.1, and vmix0.3(couldn't get it to run). The volume controls do > not function as labeled. Example, the synth volume control changes the > volume comming from the CD-player but CD volume does nothing. Spkr > volume control doesn't work either. What does the 'mixer' command report? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 21 06:39:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10173 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10168 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22489; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:38:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:38:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705211338.IAA22489@plains.NoDak.edu> To: mkerr@cs.ubc.ca Subject: Re: Gravis Ultrasound MAX and microphone to speaker output Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Michael Kerr wrote: > I have a GUS MAX and I record from the microphone and play sounds to the > speaker at the same time. However, when the microphone and speaker-out are ON > at the same time, the sound from the microphone is immediately sent to the > speaker. the GUS and the GUS MAX have this annoying "feature". Gravis finally fixed this in the GUS PnP. This leads to aweful echoes in vat. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 21 09:50:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20376 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foxtrot.boesusa.com (foxtrot.boesusa.com [207.19.216.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20366 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bab@localhost) by foxtrot.boesusa.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01010; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705211652.LAA01010@foxtrot.boesusa.com> From: "Barry A. Boes" To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: STB tuner problems Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have an STB bt848 card and am having some tuning problems, and I'd like to determine whether they're problems specific to my card, to STB cards in general, or to all TV tuner cards. Basically, I receive 6 channels via airwaves. Of those channels, the STB card works great with 7,24,36,42. But with channels 18 and 54 (which come in a little fuzzy on my TV but have never caused problems for any of my TV's or sensitive VCR's) the card tunes to the frequency great but then appears to "lose tuning" over the course of about 0.5-1 second. I have tried the following things to fix the problem - 1) enable and disable AFC -- works the same both ways. 2) twiddle with the tuner ic's settings (I don't have docs on the TEMIC so I couldn't try everyting). But I did try changing from slow to fast tuning (no difference). I also tried setting RSA to 0 but then the card wouldn't tune at all, maybe RSA doesn't do the same thing as the phillips part I had the datasheet for? And finally, I tried making the user program re-request tuning anywhere from once/second to several times/second. This didn't work at all, to get the channel to come back I always had to tune to another station and then tune back, which would get me a signal that started out OK and deteriorated to fuzz or lost H or V sync over about 1 second. Does anyone know whether this is common to all tuner cards, the STB card, or just my particular card? I'm also having an occasional problem with system hangs. When running fxtv sometimes the computer hands and will only respond to pressing the reset button. I'm not certain, but it appears to happen whenever I'm moving the cursor through the fxtv video screen. My relevant machine configuration is : STB tuner 2940UW SCSI controller diamond stealth 64 video vram 2Mb Tyan s1662d with 2X150Mhz ppro's overclocked to 166Mhz P.S. Thanks for all that great device driver work. My next door neighbor with Linux can't do real-time (or even single frame) video capture with his driver yet. -Barry From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed May 21 11:01:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24670 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24665 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08463; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705211800.MAA08463@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Barry A. Boes" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STB tuner problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 May 1997 11:52:22 CDT." <199705211652.LAA01010@foxtrot.boesusa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:35 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Basically, I receive 6 channels via airwaves. Of those channels, >the STB card works great with 7,24,36,42. But with channels 18 and >54 (which come in a little fuzzy on my TV but have never caused problems >for any of my TV's or sensitive VCR's) the card tunes to the frequency >great but then appears to "lose tuning" over the course of about 0.5-1 >second. > ... > Does anyone know whether this is common to all tuner cards, the STB card, > or just my particular card? I had an STB card (Temic tuner) that worked great for VHF, but had your symptoms for UHF channels. Nothing I tried (including an external signal amp) would help. I finally replaced it with an Hauppauge wincast and all my problems went away. BUT many people are happily using the STB/temic cards. As I've previously stated, I think it's a quality control issue. There is not a large enough base of data to fairly say "this brand is better than that", but the STB does seem to get more complaints on this list. This is one of the few items I recommend buying from a local store if possible. Best Buy sells the STB, and CompUSA sells the Hauppauge, both at reasonably competitive prices. If they don't work its easy to return them. Treat the box contents gently, don't even bother to open the envelopes. The card is PnP, just stick it in the machine, add the driver & test. If it ain't right return it. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 22 14:39:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08119 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08105; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13550; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705222139.PAA13550@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Luigi Rizzo cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 May 1997 12:02:25 +0200." <199705221002.MAA09266@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:39:30 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > can someone of the committers add the bt848 support to 2.2 releng > ? It is already in the 3.0 tree, it works pretty well and since > these bt848-based boards are so widespread it would be a real shame > not to have it in the next releases/snapshots of 2.2. there are at least two things necessary before it can be added: an entry in /dev/MAKEDEV for creating devices. a real man page that deals with its configurations and supported hardware. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 22 14:44:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08767 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08712; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04857; Thu, 22 May 1997 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970522144531.15821@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 14:45:31 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Steve Passe Cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? References: <199705221002.MAA09266@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <199705222139.PAA13550@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705222139.PAA13550@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Thu, May 22, 1997 at 03:39:30PM -0600 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Passe scribbled this message on May 22: > Hi, > > > can someone of the committers add the bt848 support to 2.2 releng > > ? It is already in the 3.0 tree, it works pretty well and since > > these bt848-based boards are so widespread it would be a real shame > > not to have it in the next releases/snapshots of 2.2. > > there are at least two things necessary before it can be added: > > an entry in /dev/MAKEDEV for creating devices. this is in -current... (I added it... :) ) > a real man page that deals with its configurations and supported hardware. this is needed... and isn't even in current.. any takers? -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 22 15:07:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11094 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11066; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id XAA09987; Thu, 22 May 1997 23:30:46 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199705222130.XAA09987@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? To: smp@csn.net (Steve Passe) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 23:30:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705222139.PAA13550@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> from "Steve Passe" at May 22, 97 03:39:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > > can someone of the committers add the bt848 support to 2.2 releng ... > > there are at least two things necessary before it can be added: > > an entry in /dev/MAKEDEV for creating devices. > a real man page that deals with its configurations and supported hardware. while a manpage is certainly advisable I note that not all devices have it (noticeably the sound drivers, to remain in the multimedia area). Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 22 15:43:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14374 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14354; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13849; Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705222242.QAA13849@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Luigi Rizzo cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 May 1997 23:30:46 +0200." <199705222130.XAA09987@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:14 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > there are at least two things necessary before it can be added: > > > > an entry in /dev/MAKEDEV for creating devices. > > a real man page that deals with its configurations and supported hardware. > > while a manpage is certainly advisable I note that not all devices have > it (noticeably the sound drivers, to remain in the multimedia area). lack of a man page means just that much more work spent answering questions from users who don't have a clue. Remember, once it gets to CD the number of potential users goes up from dozens to hundreds! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu May 22 20:15:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26443 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26438 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05624 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705230315.UAA05624@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: My status Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:15:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Guys, For a little while I was in between contracts now I am back to my regular hours of work. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 23 05:03:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA15983 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 05:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (stevenson144.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15931 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 05:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (pitcairn [129.215.197.19]) by stevenson.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20472; Fri, 23 May 1997 13:00:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 13:00:04 +0100 Message-Id: <686.199705231200@pitcairn.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: teletext decoder on the hauppauge ? To: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Luigi Rizzo's message of Thu, 15 May 1997 22:42:48 +0200 (CEST) Organization: just say no Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > does anyone know how the teletext decoder (SAA5246A) is connected > to the Bt848 on the Hauppauge card ? I have the data sheet of the > saa5246a and it seems the only way to fetch the teletext data is > by hooking into the lines between the teletext decoder and the RAM, I got the impression from the Philips manual that the RAM could be read over the I2C bus, but the manual is not really aimed at programmers, and I don't really understand it. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 23 20:56:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04397 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04392; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20324; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240356.UAA20324@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:14 MDT." <199705222242.QAA13849@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 20:56:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, it is up to you guys. I would release the driver and just include a very brief man page see : http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html Amancio >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > > > there are at least two things necessary before it can be added: > > > > > > an entry in /dev/MAKEDEV for creating devices. > > > a real man page that deals with its configurations and supported hardwar e. > > > > while a manpage is certainly advisable I note that not all devices have > > it (noticeably the sound drivers, to remain in the multimedia area). > > lack of a man page means just that much more work spent answering questions > from users who don't have a clue. Remember, once it gets to CD the number > of potential users goes up from dozens to hundreds! > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 23 21:05:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04667 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04662; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19316; Fri, 23 May 1997 22:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705240405.WAA19316@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Amancio Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 1997 20:56:46 PDT." <199705240356.UAA20324@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:05:17 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Well, it is up to you guys. I would release the driver and just > include a very brief man page see : > http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html > > ... Don't do that! then those hundreds of new users email ME because I'm the listed contact on those pages. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 23 21:09:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04787 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04782; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20431; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240409.VAA20431@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 1997 22:05:17 MDT." <199705240405.WAA19316@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 21:09:13 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, Fine, just release the driver and if you like just move the bt848 driver project to the multimedia mailing list and to protect you just have the mail contact to be the multimedia mailing list. This weekend I am updating the Bt848 driver and the sound driver so please can some take care of the Bt848 man page if not we will do without. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > > Well, it is up to you guys. I would release the driver and just > > include a very brief man page see : > > http://freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/Bt848.html > > > ... > > Don't do that! then those hundreds of new users email ME because I'm the > listed contact on those pages. > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri May 23 21:13:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04969 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04963; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19371; Fri, 23 May 1997 22:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199705240412.WAA19371@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Amancio Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 1997 21:09:13 PDT." <199705240409.VAA20431@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:12:51 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, > Fine, just release the driver and if you like just move the bt848 driver > project to the multimedia mailing list and to protect you just have > the mail contact to be the multimedia mailing list. I would love to move the bt848 page out of my directory if someone else cares to take it over. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 24 00:01:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10986 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 00:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10979; Sat, 24 May 1997 00:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21098; Sat, 24 May 1997 00:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705240700.AAA21098@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: Luigi Rizzo , committers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bt848 into 2.2.RELENG anyone ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 1997 22:12:51 MDT." <199705240412.WAA19371@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 00:00:14 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > hi, > > > Fine, just release the driver and if you like just move the bt848 driver > > project to the multimedia mailing list and to protect you just have > > the mail contact to be the multimedia mailing list. > > I would love to move the bt848 page out of my directory if someone > else cares to take it over. Okay, Lets keep the web page in your directory,if you don't mind , for the purpose of coordinating projects related to the Bt848 stuff. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 24 15:30:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22869 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22864 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00461 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705242230.PAA00461@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: minor upgrade to the bt848 driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:04 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848.tar.gz o eliminated floating point operations from the video section of the driver o the driver now compiles cleanly with -Wall the system is going up and down while I work on the drivers so if you fail to connect just try back in a few minutes. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 24 17:28:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27508 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27503 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00339; Sat, 24 May 1997 20:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: guspnp7 driver on -current In-Reply-To: <199705242230.PAA00461@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio's recent update to this driver is working fine here, anyone having success with the OSS driver on current ? It was not working here as of ~2 weeks ago. -kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat May 24 22:44:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09521 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09516 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA01014; Sun, 25 May 1997 00:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 00:49:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Amancio's latest mods to bt848 driver (removal of floating point) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Just to let everyone know.. I picked up Amancio's modified bt848 driver and recompiled it into my kernel. Have only tested it for about 10-15 minutes so far, but my impression is that it's a definite improvement. I don't know if this was the intention, but the IDE timeouts that I was frequently getting before seem to have been reduced in frequency and duration. Now to look at the code and try to understand what the difference between it and the committed is. Bernie