From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 00:43:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05668 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA05660 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (CMy4L5jEl4cMifJCIaFbtrWRiq93QXV1@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23612; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:43:58 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (RQCNRVm16un3JkJEsZlJgGMHno/Uli67@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02009; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:43:56 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710120743.JAA02009@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: john@jwlab.feith.com (John Wehle), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Murray Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sound Driver Patches for Ensoniq Soundscape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:43:56 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Just mail them to Mark however if you are going to be doing Oooh, rather not. I am the committer, but I rely on you guys to tell me when the code works. I'd prefer to deal with the owner of a piece of code for commit purposes. If the patches are OK, I'll happily bung them in on Amancio/Luigi's OK. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 00:58:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA06160 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp (berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA06155 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shichi@Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA07993; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:55:22 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710120755.QAA07993@Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [video] Fxtv 0.45 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:33:13 +0100 (MET)" References: <199710111933.UAA01989@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.2 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:55:21 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In these days, we can buy Bt848 w/tuner at 9800 yen (something around US$80) in tokyo. That sounds quite competitive though 8) Naohiro Shichijo From: Luigi Rizzo Subject: Re: [video] Fxtv 0.45 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:33:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <199710111933.UAA01989@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> > > Imagine this: > > > > A consumer walks to an tv/stereo store to purchase a new tv: > > > > Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, FreeBSD/Fxtv > > I am afraid we would not be competitive in the price. Any chance to > make this ROMable :) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 01:27:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08231 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA08226 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:27:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00407; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710120827.BAA00407@rah.star-gate.com> To: Mark Murray cc: john@jwlab.feith.com (John Wehle), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Sound Driver Patches for Ensoniq Soundscape In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:43:56 +0200." <199710120743.JAA02009@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:27:39 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fair enough... Lets see what what John wants to do now , given that what we want is to support Luigi's sound driver and if it is a must to have the voxware sound driver then the patches should be against guspnp20. Amancio >From The Desk Of Mark Murray : > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Just mail them to Mark however if you are going to be doing > > Oooh, rather not. I am the committer, but I rely on you guys to tell me > when the code works. I'd prefer to deal with the owner of a piece > of code for commit purposes. If the patches are OK, I'll happily bung > them in on Amancio/Luigi's OK. > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 01:36:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08697 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA08689 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00482; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710120836.BAA00482@rah.star-gate.com> To: Naohiro Shichijo cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [video] Fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:55:21 +0900." <199710120755.QAA07993@Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:36:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now that looks even better, Sony, Toshiba, oops Bt848 based card + tuner + dbx stereo 8) Actually, if PCI Bt848 based cards starts cropping up with a cool audio codec we will be all set 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Naohiro Shichijo : > In these days, we can buy Bt848 w/tuner at 9800 yen (something around US$80) > in tokyo. That sounds quite competitive though 8) > > Naohiro Shichijo > > From: Luigi Rizzo > Subject: Re: [video] Fxtv 0.45 > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:33:13 +0100 (MET) > Message-ID: <199710111933.UAA01989@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> > > > > Imagine this: > > > > > > A consumer walks to an tv/stereo store to purchase a new tv: > > > > > > Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, FreeBSD/Fxtv > > > > I am afraid we would not be competitive in the price. Any chance to > > make this ROMable :) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 01:47:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09103 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09097 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA05267; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:46:34 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710120846.GAA05267@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: [video] Fxtv 0.45 In-Reply-To: <199710120755.QAA07993@Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp> from Naohiro Shichijo at "Oct 12, 97 04:55:21 pm" To: shichi@Berkeley.RACE.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Naohiro Shichijo) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:46:34 -0200 (EDT) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Naohiro Shichijo) // In these days, we can buy Bt848 w/tuner at 9800 yen (something around US$80) // in tokyo. That sounds quite competitive though 8) But be real competitive, you should also have a monitor and a CPU. It's cool to watch TV inside your computer, but it's far from competitive against pure tv sets. Maybe if you sell it as a video edition machine... :) // > > Imagine this: // > > // > > A consumer walks to an tv/stereo store to purchase a new tv: // > > // > > Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, FreeBSD/Fxtv // > // > I am afraid we would not be competitive in the price. Any chance to // > make this ROMable :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 01:48:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09178 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09155 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA05280; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:47:51 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710120847.GAA05280@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Bt848 and FxTv 0.45 In-Reply-To: <34404C8B.16C0EE9A@AJC.State.Net> from Al Johnson at "Oct 11, 97 11:05:31 pm" To: Al.Johnson@AJC.State.Net Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:47:51 -0200 (EDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Al Johnson) // I'm trying to upgrade from FxTv 0.44 to 0.45 but am // having a few problem. I grabbed the latest bt848 // (10/6/97) but at package make time for fxtv this is // what I get: // // tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTURESetInputFormat': // tvcapture.c:387: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCM' undeclared (first use this // function) You must also upgrade the bt848 driver files. These are the for tuner encoding format options. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 01:56:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09540 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09535 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA05334; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:56:25 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710120856.GAA05334@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: no sound in FXTV In-Reply-To: <19971011175458.08814@bc1.com> from Jake at "Oct 11, 97 05:54:58 pm" To: jake@bc1.com (Jake) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:56:25 -0200 (EDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Jake) // Hi, I'm still not getting any sound in FXTV. // I just upgraded to the latest bt848 driver, and fxtv 0.45. // I like the new additions, but I iwsh I could get sound. // // I have a zoltrix tx max pci capture card, and a soundblaster 16 // sound card. I think everything is setup right. I got all the extra prgrams // fxtv needed that weren't ports, and I made the tuner devices. // Sound works in doom, and an audio cd plays with xcdplayer. // I have my sound crad connetced to my stereo, so all the sound plays thorugh // that, and then I have a 1/8" mini-plug from sound-in on the sound card to // sound out on the capture card. I'm using 2.2.2-RELEASE, but I haven't done Very strange... Let's try to find where the problem is. Have you already tried some sound input in the sound-in plug of the audio card ? If it does work, must be a problem in the audio mux. It's possible, since zoltrix is not a bt848 tested device. // anything to the sound driver. Is there a newer version I should get? // I've tryed changing the vol, line, cd and mic settings in mixer to 100. // I have it hooked up to an antenna, and i always get good picture, // but no sound. // // The only thing I can think of is that the card is detected as a Miro TV card // with TEMIC NTSC tuner. should I change it to card_unkown? Maybe you could play with various card types and see if any one works for you. Please, let us know if one does work. // I know the zoltrix isn't under the supported cards, but it is just // a bt848 card. // // I haven't tried the card with win95 yet for obvious reasons, // but I have a feeling that's the only way to kno if the card is producing // sound at all. It's a good test. Try also to connect the audio out from the bt848 card direct to the sound system. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 02:25:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10885 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA10880 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA05511; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:25:35 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710120925.HAA05511@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848-yuv.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <199710110837.BAA00943@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Oct 11, 97 01:37:35 am" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:25:35 -0200 (EDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Amancio Hasty) // 2. yuv12capture.c // sample program to store frames to a file. It is a very simple // program. Do we have some program to make generic captures from command line ? I'm making a program to take snaps from the bt848 driver. Right now it does work writing PPM and JPEG images. Would it be useful as a general tool ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 02:59:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA12075 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA12067 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA02959 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:41:11 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710120841.JAA02959@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: a nice spectrum analyzer... To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:41:11 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try this out... is a nice spectrum analizer adapted from the "afft" program in the AudioFile distribution... it's only 20K so I hope you will forgive me if I enclose it in this email... you need tcl7.5 and a suitable tk for this... standard stuff in 2.2 and above... right now it needs a full-duplex device (WSS clone) but if you delete the line which write()s samples in afstubs.c you can use it with a soundblaster as well. Cheers Luigi begin 664 afft.tgz M'XL(`'B=0#0``^P\:W?BN)+S%7Y%;6;N74A(>.71-^GT/81`P@X)62"3[IWI MDV.,`&\;FVL;$G:V__M6E639YI&>GB'].!N?;F*K'BJ5I%))*LD8#(+\#\_[ MP'[AZ.@`?@"`_5*9_P(4U%_U`8?[I4*Q>'BP7P(H%LJ%T@]P\,QR\3/U`\,# M^,&>6D/K";R'D1#VEQ#HRSX&U7]C;'P0`\L6SY-'L5`X/-Q?6__%8HGKOWA4 M+)9+1U3_I5+AX`?_>?W_^-.E,/K".X:\Z=EY8]JWW'REGC==)_"L M7MZT+>$$?I[;2;O:B=I*;@;%O5=0_,<_]O,%_'<$A>+QP>'Q_CX$8QMJCQ/X M*9T.>_AY[:;9..O`*:2;K6JE>8]?[4J[4:.DW69^ZGMYVS4-.V];/=BU`]-& MDX%_/^P7\<_;(OV.TU![VVU7[AO7U>;MN:1MQ&@MQ[2G?1'+M=ZXEFCGW6KS MIM*]//UM*YE9GK+:.\C_MA5)BT\'"XMT8\-R]DSH6_[$-N;X1D7'/ZB?@36< M>O2.JO&G/1_??DNGB!9_QG/3M5T/TXR!'S`TSKUU]A^:NZNYNY*[&^/N:N[N M"NZNYNZFTX9M'Q^GTU=8/^>6)\S`]2SA9RP'6[AMY^"GS&VGC6H_;[2S5.A\ M-IVNNN.)+1YO/'?H&>.NX0U%`)"AVLZF&Y+RVG5JC\(,16?@'M(G.2J&7[L] MOSR?]W"_YAH=/5L>3]O_8K%0.@K'_\(1=G=,.BCLO]C_+_&D\]N0>*KN9.Y9 MPU%`EKV0H]\B_Y;XMPSGJ" M/P=7AN\;YFCJBR#P$03T_T9X8\OW$1D"%Q"60W,WF>=@[/:M`?Y%:TA#SS1` MB.'TP1>V#<'(\L%W!\.M@*?^?5=@8 M8P'N0%<'\H*>('WV6<+^3"`CGUBA2HC;9-JS+=,*YB1"@",/P0(WTC>)A!R) MN]9TJ"U_(DQK8)DY9O7@64$@'%2?A!F494; M'E7^?"]L@^>-BT:WTL2_G6JSTKCJ0*79A+M*NUVY[I)/U=O42/RMGC6:C^PXJ MU^=0;W31(^D0$[AN0>V7VG47.I?$)"[960V:CMJC8A;3-%MM1'QMJ,(7H=R;=UVB9K8M9@Q\KFN2:ZL M=R0G:5B.6AO+?U5ASO5D/5!MYM-DP.3X!;O8UEH^-R$?Y[*-U=8O^C\D')EK[V`^2]-WI#0B8` MF%VECLXGPDBH!`P]*2))IGU83-H*?<`1^JT_]M$E=P34;[KO;FJIOHM=743) MV'0J/V.5%-$%S5,/`-1]`?7%3C!,1BXB]<4,C9&$%34,^SUV9"\_MDP)*I&: MK=V!!;9`[9HCPW&$+6%E#9.F+P[,1^)<5UO-5KLCG=ER*1+S#OWSRUKCXK(+ MJ<-]G7YV6^\T_JNFAZB#8BF%Q>A-!P.L;-_Z'S3D9#P-\F7]>%:IN\9Y]S)5 M/BJ$M$B'(&-J!V@PG+[[P/20>3`"X0W0KF>Y/A2Y%"95.CA<3S\27-;5'*#5 MJ;(,@#Q2DO[!ZN-(@<;.]4W+MO'7G8B06UQ/5Y6W]7;EJJ:DP&(O@63Y2J]> MD2J1]Q6Z,S0,C%%`"[5!V>R#TK^:/"1^8C0XL-C"\(-T"A\"#G!*(%@]._)= M%36/C2"NY(MVY5T'YW140ZF"XEJEQNEC@\!Q=^YC4Q*IF&+)F*'M:+(,Q03^ M8&ISLS,#;SJ.5T83IW*5MA2[M)B+C1@XAJ*4DU2B`=Q?MZYKDB@4[4ZJ>C!U M3+8*NSA,.4*K));EW?UEY>J*C!:)N9;\TAB/<3!=27Y]K'*)NJH?D9=2/(_/#@H'Q*C#M4M MMI`ZV4O9G5+*I-9#YC@U#-Q@/E$=:^9:_92L'9XR0@HGF$'V1`)T'Z!L%`!_ M(56O=]M31V:?J;*!/3<"(P==T[YOH%_F36";>G&0(ZOAP?:V(N79'(]8O!G:&7C@0B$?4FI.J-YJR\6_[[M3IDX-P$L)8^P23(Z!. MEZ,H0X;H+X!^*YIWC(TZAT^_*K\U?<:1_A3V"F0TEJ8G<*XL>_=$?D70 M7RQ_:M@A5'ZMZ,=4(3,&5FW#]V5M=']>HYWNAWL]3-$:L_PXX5*1QX=)H1>A M)OR5:)9$+L#77I9Z>;[0PY-5G^?5G^?5G^?5G^_9Z7?_7P)5/2M%I!SBBVZZD9P/UEYQ?X/8TS&O:1890# M/P>S$TSY"`@[6:9H7YS%*;P<#'/0DQ0(0XK00\,OG)E;`7N-F>Q)+)UA%YZ8 M9Q2;^3*X[KGCRZD(,4;+&%?68X;>C5PHC6%/1OA%B3V=V!.!L4PLUPQ<&RGDV\[#_UVV=MYXQCT_X?W!0V,>?/!H MPDNCK5K'DGLOL15A=.3$7CI-G)-;'+1:!KS+YMH2+-.1S7`HO"1HXDZF$W8! M:'$(:!I,6U4&[4.@>?)5!M1^M?@L,NVY.9-ID$[3]M-0A/LU7$K;';(?M>6K M5<\M.+K_EP[VB_LZ_G>?8H&*I8.#E_B?+_*\S/]>YG\O\[^7^=_W M//^+QV+OTDJY\`PSL+@/2TAD'-!/L&F3@4.#)LIC68S;V9(1/UM1:BH*Y8F2 MWA:+^;CUV`A&">37U"6=83(-K2EV7";%,J;C M^\7QW6+VWI);QJR2B=PS-;RAJ7>/\6.63:=_3\O])KDIY8B'$TY0LT+H@J%+$AV*<*EW"BU1*EJ/X^V[!`DA=I] M@[T5O3-D\K?^5BZV(XF3S-1'$#99\1BGLN9//U3*"Q%@04.&.9!RE5"NOR>Y MXM*F64IR ME<$KQ^E5#&EO_G/YA0$TJSF&>_I_E"N_?]3Z5E5%RJW@X.3TVUQ'D8JW[G@6 MX$S'/?3;T7"CSGWX;6LKIS09:QN4"M>WS698!9X(IIX#W6KSOM9NM]I4SUR* M6&VO:&-])\]_5>N%Q[\]HC0Z;N5;+S/-\C?2TE1\S2;:&0Y@8:EX$>)4#G+? MM!YE2,8?TR2ERC`-C9U*?4*]Q5`^*89\_V2E%#9<'<0#/V-BA^6`8ND5#5-O M.8*O@@,59%2`1PX>'W)I%:6*DU3\QX&P.16KLE2X)./"]S'@J?B?C?0EQ>M; MMQTJ'FIS14Z8CV^RR+8[W$AQPZB\3?3/.*^%$3D^2L=&Y6]9PYOJ0S*&[YGL MWQL5.JB%2KS3X/!7T M.JS_1`7%?`E902HNYQ^/*=59#;_\MN+-=0/)CWF>KIWTZ3N>CJBJ>& ME:;SX>(LTD50SD">V\'2GBQ"U+F8TX43.W$\7;UKF"8.]*S/('9$*L$=W1M] MT"%AII7[I((]XPY4]OMH>[Q%N)G&I^.Y-]'TDMS"%ABEQCS:Q'3U>U`YGXK9 MC,X3T?T;T?LB1TVHS_.L63GXIE7.6^F;43FSVHBJ-2>ES.]CT86.9FQ&D\1I M(XH,&W`=]:CU=E>B+W,Z,/[H2W MJ)B[SDUF@%D>PU@=TNV;O%,N:']3V>E(G&51Y&BS(&;KYQ-*27^4Y_72B6V- MQ=T@2^W\T.99QN+5$[#0&U;G7.ACYQ2*8=V%IV9^M=[O>:)/?K`%VY#A,Z?H M]BJRK*JT./J0C\E\!D%/.MI/$WRD8N:WY;:@#(4,#_;T1/!`608C@?44/+B\ M$:AB'"DLA#RNWZ&P=W20@^(>+33M'<#'DPC%G3!&<:\48N`/8<05*[=W5NB5 M_K0OSF0K&O9D`O+F!.1O.>92FJH-"=TCSS&C))$7("C!]T995(4**\WJRHK3 M^G%:/T[K?Y)V%J>=Q6EG3](B68AY\GFM"LET:?%E1VM`MPL"A&7"%XWA)S!" MR?%%8\PT!IDCF<$;JLFLRG;WE+X6D?PXDK\&:19'FBT@8:6C.`LQMC*^=DU? MHD9^@$ULFVCWO*=Z41)UN+[_+&#VXAU'!4:G9&!T2C=AQ6GJ!,FMXE'RTT]^ M8NO]*/.G#4ILRCY%A9@IG000G?S_]3WU+:;_'3L6&]'"WF'Y*,<]DGLCSJ$_ MYN@D^YEMF'Q>&WLP4QRLH3B(**;RS.$RQ4&QQ!VYD*1H!GM,I2E*FJ)<**RB MN`@/_H44^YJB>'BTBN*=L&T^M;=,47A57D71\CC(<27%:JG:HI]*"I5:27#T M2A'<6,Z'/T!1C*KC;F0%(DY12%+$_WPD@IK3ARO#^X##+Y(L&-!H-SLTHKK! MI+;-J>>=+"8ZXC%(FLX4V\Y$"G9]+VF$4]H*AU8:D?J/"TE\TC/9L%.J*W`B MP^4V`XN%`L*I;MK'4FT=OKA+8Y;6)#"?'%X2F&O&F-"O6!IB0(TQ,J`(,K+!ZL$W=&S#X\\,#D>@A0%H-6HX M!BT,0:N1U2BT,`@I7*TEV09BJ;Y.]6.I,YTZ4ZF3P=_[U?+!X>1O'?1_+\[W[Q)?[[2SSY;0K$_&M1 MWQ!&?!.KYP[ZWFS,]V9"OC<1\;W1@._-Q7MO+-Q[8]'>7RW8&\F(WR9BO3<8 MZBW#LM_]U4AO8A,+]OX+@=XL4#+6^\_$>1.;Y5#OZ![NW?#J%WT/FO^)`._H M1CYUQV"Q].I3<=^4NC;.>SEN&V!EZ#8E)Z.W(?[X=#W628K\9GF'872G86\> MR"M=%FDF(XH"YDE&.`G1(&%\D!<`$4=C&KAT_1X;AH$\`$==)2#!D/$B-9^= M(Q:*NF^YZF(L4B^6F/F#W.4FO2Y*AKFI6X960,RY23=OK8"X:#SY,BU]EV6E MB8VCH+_'EI,Q"S):`.@T6XNNR2M:\2R52B M3?-)_ZO:@MRG6:`UQCQ;1(/O?[`F8-#5J(`67^#@#%P-Q(HG:!&G;1PFZ(JQ M5%3WZI;-#&/RG8*)Z\H@NK$L%;N4DWIBXNRGZK@KZ>6U9DR.31[1L*U1-^8N MO(I`W7;&%/*=6G=H!VBG5[9WS[5M.3PBE^25:.&=:(M"TSE29D9'2?D>V14* MCR[&/*5[/9=K.WY;)DYM]D^66.*R? MQ_[D9"E17\ZUU'S5C5CZQBKUT)5=BVED7$[2%]4$`W@]$0W>VG9 MU5U=\JJNV$U=\LZOB)]:(HTA-%A7NBRLNN5D4N]JR$SJZR0=OPP,XO>!Q>\! M@_A58`O5DKP%;%&7/%Z@MWTCUZB6P.A`1]!%O?1H$74-[(%6]!1,+=M">!ND MW!JNU[L965W9DR4,5GD=VU[&-/I][SY0?2Z7O.&,T>0Y)5YP6<<),_S#C/"U MX?3%H[PEDMR*;K6)[,=C\J_10S!%GZ[<9$_;0R[L$6LW`HL5&J_0HZP:;%:, M02`\#C.UXB?3@9Q9G/W`=*(\>'VY+X[9Z+-C]8]I!M`/^;5Y:PZ]6,>>*ZYQ M(DMXAF>.YN0,]P4V)'P29"N5A;]4>K6`+=1($?!H7TN$8G997 ML#Y]4`P^<5),+GLM=DK,6UTPE]@>"!]L.)Y:&@U'@5/H?KA7!B*3T;?595DD MK"AUF^!Y[>SV@@G?=N:..?)?G:TNTL_%T73A'IMKX(H&)2U+KZH@WU\,@&[6[S'BTMMTZE M8B%/R5WQ\(;9C-YOHM_D-C5M0<4,0'K!T$0M+QOMKB;;'L7#&.'*?")"*-1H M1OH\M#HLO2&L]3%JPC4SQR_(] M?L7Q73M6)._&]]HZ/@,,$C$PA`%+6J_^]Z^>_9@'2';B;.["263H1W5U=75U M5W5U]=T=U%LI?FW-&\8^NSM4TUDOGH+X67N]\7_.0JJ+Q\Q36#VG/1%0 M[\9K2-88YF>UY769D.#]`"*1"=UJD#&;CILCPL"78.`L]QX:/!%@%%T\9&]S MFS25I.^5KMT<0:?M)5CR7A,1E%VA)9"&B3=(<8G/0(<;68()[5I_9T2HC67C MAOQ5Q#AVR#CX]V<,BXT+O@0)6:M^7VIP(XLQ,2L,H*([4,#%-".MK+UY-8G' M6H"%#E"N*<"C#@@"7S#)1@VZ^(:_O>KK`F;6(UZ`I)ILX+#"$XY`PPDEQ76[ M"N6EN&YH2RK0Q?>R.HZGK^0PTIIKY#+O"L+N+AB9T@?[(-QV MT/3Z?Q"B&]0Q:F#A/_\99O*.:2G"$L1+]@ZY/>V]*H-[F,;S7L**1AZR:94` MXY*%A'Z(G$]5'L?#86IIK0-/5]\H^+HR.:6P@E-W#_38P0_!'C@[##,;,BWE M9P26-K,"C]+*/7?X?-0YZD-?$ST4%]UK<+*?+8%T1`Y\DAQ!NQOP+[M/X+=' M%,XZ"S+JR66^JR`KCZQZNE@R^HN9QS0"W4K#-T*^Q[:J"K"C)%%O416+ M-'W$G1)AO('N`^4G9X-N^O1BDJ2@*3KS\`(U)#)4.N7UZ8Q,L6=O\(C(*<=- MYZ7\Q;F=X"[89!J?3E&ER`#VS1E`^M:)4^T14'I1M>9)#J7"*N<%-9RK)9F; M)58'RNHK[C6:RN*;,W8*E%V3J2RX&7,E.N&R?;4'$@\P/4QR4D$6#C+O&.XB M:X\E@2RB]25+)?KW_B]`-8)<,6.DZWYOZQG,ZK!Z\GUL7L9Y:OX&.)&8+4', MF?XM;\;7P[NLCQ,RR7*RFX>1;CLG,L7$5K/:;]&W$HHG2G)%JVZQRA`Z=\\J M3Z('IV=ZXHW'Y&I93@8#69E>'_$ ML9TEDQ+[4CW\I8X`ZN$'O&(8C87.^'@,JVE^V!*53=]H`!<4,50.*(*KZ::W MF6,O;^/37"544O7@JVS`M?U$ECTO^P/R%=-W;<9$JUFTU MJY@!'3(GB35TL&]0-(X:#/DV$`B/$WJ/8*C.QW180J^&TKB';XX(!C5#A)]X6[U,6/C^'" M#Y!!W!)^<+:L;"MY^\O&Q@GC:>]SV`L35@0(Q\+2/$C17.>936@5%V:D[\@/ MSJY)YY^UCCL[+1%(5#0K^YUEBJ05ST`UD;$T*K.("3YT[#48]C#$*[ZX9@^% M\89=>!Y]C''.A:,XPDT/G_KB@9P9V").M2\?N?S*3$H[3P!>K>YMMN^V[D(G M[I+#GYE:`^_R0';*7BV=U);O#D*'TYNMXFGE3TU&N`W*@0L&)XWY77?G',PW M1Y:8.>=7Y^EDYY%1W57S(K(>A-\-TVHZJ)2/JY%HK.;T(5) M8,U1<0$Z;91\EDX2(IJ':-7M#[P#^"_6F2;W9;7Y.;^R;A-`ART#>*NEC04=+%NSUB4".XMFY M*H&"G!ZU,X($2KF,G3W_6%#50YPHFP?DTL6L#.9,!7'W?`[Z&FSJ3N$+JZ3K6:SQCT:HJ;<^LM? M\"'-+I3A+0^*:7SQM"&2M=SBY!AA5W)%TN`9A M.4N)!7O;*1Z/D8UPUN@"?!SG*P2U.>NI((:-KY94D;3+?Q$G^8JO?B*VBS13`9_!BR@.V M`G+>$GKBI@16;$K233&DG'.*$)J2KL\!M[D),_C2.V,%1"[?V(`26!"^W":. M%Z]],\/(SAE8=4I7PF*>5V\S>R9KJ>;DZ?'$EOMJ(S@ELTF2EJM,Q3GB MNH=?Y>#5E%"*-1WS3J/!J??5JJR%K*]?I6AW:_1M:Q>L>W8`U<.+)(WQ,/1L MS=Q?*&7`;+5YC;M=M9`;;9RC5G1LY20,G2(Q+-0EPENW%/1]"YI7H`(#J>F8 MM6#6<38H#+]GS&-#&&'\*'B;PW6J#8X67+,8-MWF,N&VG'X6#;0I(/6\=N@!]T9DJ7ES-@M M]""+HOIH\:CR_8WV9F@L66;\U:*UO:D`??[0?('426:S9*37*ZBM#$);6=P5 M.68M=,%"YW&^M#$)V_0V2ZH0B8IU'WT%1+W(M@(?3H)5"!#/A].TC`?LUJX' M.A[B^MQ`7CLWISON6<\&9K780DJ-PD?:-6V5-R6.T1O89N4&34**"?:I4&K6 MMJ$#Z`V.HI451P[H6M8\HB/,_()RX,R9]H8)XHM!2I9:D0PR,K"QG(:=RQ#O M49GF[13`#4-A#TEADK58ZB2H7]UB8<<&/R93QF8N)B5@"5NZ55)(+Q17_:.[ M=JT4NIB$L=MVP\PSWOR<)77CO6GHA#N?4%]^Z`^F*5G'YJ.QH[;S"RG MW:`*=\?!J#>-SM&)4L=7MB,\;W'X!NHK[Z-)BQ6D\6*%7[S%"A/,8N4-0K6: M(7/+DAF-JE"S5C!.YM:WK&M0S.R]_353KT?["V8)G7"07!KAXBC1?85]&AB) MI9`):LZVG&;Y=5>Q9LE\-C-_("N]@ZAY%<(QN:EYWT?DK5\I:D MX"6Y;C(>PSR/>XZ;[.0L&<>UNAQFI*8XG:ML9OUR&RU&]Q@_&G@/?\`3%DF2[[0W?#-\2R9:GL%/H:\17#= M"7W9?D-7P"]P],-TQU>Q"-E;II[N98S+(9VB>`Z)[#N8-V26^-&14/@\7SJ# MR)?XTQ&RG^$+5KFV(UCEYEY@O"G(><4L<`[[]XRT\J_YH?@O\'\Z[Z1_3/R7 M5G-WYXZ-_])JEYJ*YF'`P*"2/^48W,B[[RVR1GQS';F!.I;OB MP,7DK)NBE9#<=6N2`/ABI\/3>!QC\.\T1"NN%(8)`NBG^,Z;W$1'7[OS`7KF M#=.$*FJ`"YP`,.F&EPKQ*,;YS!?7R3`CTWB(A&&+E3;:PP:Z9&-)T7Y%]2,Z M$YK&/=CL16C```&7;F*?H;.(!_8OOB`'`R&[1&YE-XW*;2#)^Y0.P-&JI+?V M*ZBP5`"`=)+/CJDQ2,2;\VR/X6P3W5.=*9W@FR9)&SR?S*:^0UL%>HS;Z-X` ME!WC=LGW;1@YQ^:%694^J!TFU]O-VNZ((XIU7`^K.W;4]$ZC\5?1ZRN`'?ML M(1C!D_'*>QPQ+-=%,1N"TK8H21L2>)VZ0?UV?:^HB+B);5EZ4&$B'-DL`#FR MF-)U>"<=^VW2+4G<452,KX+_1W/CL?BE@UH"LK:'\T!9$U6;>S;"B;@W#6;Q M*)Q$@RD&[:10+Y-H2F'4R.S^,1XWV!:+_#I,J-^CZ'0`^XI+*HK%DEXOW=1V M&*5[3@QW`G\/,L[Y=YN+.I&@CG]^>%B-ZIT:T@(P(A<5Z#7\3Y<&X5NGQI3" M7-'.<4)4C*\]JVX+F=CUM>``J>2.7`>D^K`UJH>GJ+?2>1"'R8\OX%^H.\DP M..!Q3D]JG&=\Q2J"(67B%X?Y9="^.;`C:">`3D))=\>;O=QUK,/[]\.<%VU= M?-;51WTP,TZT[E,!OX0/T)%.4O`/$A[8E?RL0=&E+P/5)W,E-EJFS(:YVB0' M$)53NOW*R#YXH#AJD`7,?8#VZUNW`%?X!@D>)K_@,0>F.FU3)2AK@$E3OV#7 M3%%.I&%2!!SZ\-"2#5Z&V9)(?]]W`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`87?^QF8_472'W`,H=J^5^!)`AK)]W1UG\QTF6S077K'\2D1 MJ#IG!Y$ZA0NMV1"AH3P<-<#N3#]2@%/ZOD^[#M7_O&?,04.B\MD9D',S>$^C-VW>?M9&(GLM)P[M_U0C@:*O]1AV-8>%C`H;5YZ^?@SAX M?_04I_`M2C4!:S+^0RZI+$64@2J#,5Z05V\TXL2P>OS\V<,71R]A!IO!MU$L ME+XF>B)!L+2X5F1+&D6/=VYQ!+NW#.X$]@<8=A$UB,-A="G7VD(.Q@A]]DN3 M/L)XH)L&EMG7!XLH%31O"7]G7Q@R:-L'B\ZGT00&$Y1N]'@0;="]?"8:.VP[ M!K#!Z(:S*/T@RQY=K1#S/X>Z(&]MT@(ZL;SM0)&E.<-X81H5W1TV2WFRC5]< M6'\NF5,5\X8@AQQM9G7PXDNC[-M%V7I=E&K8">1:T7VAFG7< M](KK?U0RZA)N3*@,!6&7`ML'WF5A/%S8_LW,.V'R@N4^@[=_T!L_.L7Q<9.E M$M]Z>9I"'RAF(H4M9U%-U+Y$4PXGJ!/W*>PDX7?2[\'(56^-\9*+3"*$=0CK M/[W09>]2IL*&`[P!A$N`.N/A?L$)0JXM>'X!.>%;OR-?-IHOV:<@6(@'3"P>S,->FCO+BDM2]]F=VMJX%IJV'MY MU0+TR@1F!G'W$,O'9W'W`]&9Q'DWINUHRHR$N(-DGQJ\BN+BAGY@W'^6A,7= MSPD6%(G,=$!&$HP8_P<;()9C=BL4&$4+L7(G1>\6?V21(A+0VYO1FM9W;U^Y M(^ITE^\CN-*\KU<4^B3CJK&X MK;M'!)_;JKGDF6F5Y4I?7S'.Q_D3;!",Q/>C`'\A1?BK6)Y2TR^#;QP8JE*J MG5)N,G'"'Z'_D_UG!"+[#[/_M%M[.TWC_[5]9P_M/[NM.RO[S]?XK-[_6KW_ MM7K_:_7^UY_D_2]>J<)&B%I&^`)M'XL?_2JTS63?%'D93<11W3X4D7]YY#": MIO'C40];1=7,W#U#K4$>RE:-ZI.G<86D4M$M/EY=@R8. MITF7:N#S)%3C,*$=*4Y@\V2)J>7>^',^@WMW$5^I_7?\7'3#I1]T,* MJB+_.D3/*J_WP>N_'I^!1*X&%4.@\':]PJ])T^4Y'`4<'%&%J+&*&(4J%;?/ M*4(J+\9W5)!2E8)<-$$843CK#O&Z]6`RXY).9_#\`)\AUB/TKF9025'SGJ#Q M;,!R"LH`[6TY=Y?MPGT(/&1^N4^4K\&"!WEK=30#/$[&_<$I#!&KE5=U*3.= MCTV9H_DXGPOZXAJ%\/O_Q(TB MK2;/^;&:P3\BE?[/ADDG&J:%+[G)+=<#O)>:>PP.W^5Z_L*)5!7>=MX[83=` M>M&.["EBU:);H.99K6QL+(POR6]:]1[AP7J37JO[F`QG>/6>]AI%KW%-XU^Q M)N+9+GI=;3JS,=HK6WRD:\P!N3YWM3#W6(23RN3B11:5'TP7EI=XET6O@:(2LM[\OWPP0!9YL/HG"Z\U;F8=1'!Z^V! MQNSL#!-0?0M@.W$`B2K("(#29?A#-*8]A9@MBAZFNXJX4'HS3&;U1 MUS::`+'"-N&B&"@'GGC?,H>1=ES9(]1+4\!"",#G*TH+J7LA_VZP\FR+A M!)QH*[GF33034S\>DX-N:+: M!5-MI',4OL_C=,:<&9:R)E:)+G)53,L%55!B43/$P/R\UL(VJ`(VXE9P6\C7 MX-@:S@-Z$NF@`+A9N#J6%UX;]W;8'`IRA9K(&\0/KS' MK8^3S3?D'TXF*-RQ++V,065EU;XU,B996.2YCOS#>R)82&'5\9:VFGE9B\VK MA)MXO_/+:1B/9M.A4]8LE=TN>?VF^_@GR^ZUXK/UV"N^[.E&BQK0]"$K*(*U M5TTEV%]W-*E2&WB1%^W@U](=-P_7)OH(!_'?:?V=SUH^Y;L0LC&VUI"+$4? M*^0P+Z'(DA[P0<`7]L$YG;Q!+[C*-?I1X?>JS)D*M+';:M?"6[?R$36_H?CH MI7FM]MW2O+V=VA+,8:&-3V&-N#;FUQD!/N+]PA'0,*(W(+_$%*6U[MJ#()7R M(V`S,N2W&1G:VXSK$_Z&.%^'_+#>?R'M91=Q(^+K=NHZA'=4A-8UY=+HB\62 M[*5NQE$@5<6%;]K[`9WL,@VOM.#9D+6H/,$DZ-!A2'2N03 M3E&OG+U[U8UTQ8&K3$0K-W6+08,8Z"1KXBZ&-CJZ='1JR,] M7"5NLT&O*"\;X0L4C2^&@\CPFWF'@"4&B--X7&NO/X!@D3;JC+:4P12R?^JS MC?L&UI/DY[-X_+PWC.E)7_RB)8T)MZXJDEAT!7]/B?J2_IE0:,[#PW3)%`?& M?>"7$AH/R%CI1EOS*C0><*@A=X]--F!ZYN@Q,W65#"*A"7[F0*Y+EB2A:;B$ M`,;!);O!_N+FG(YD&A'QC/E>+&\=SZLS2_V&A<5XNQF5%##D:-Z=$L"SNO@(F2Q^^51!14LW+]U@LEN:<]>H#+)72_.TS2 MN.JXA?@4`TPL:W.Z]^RSI3^6_,#EG'GC0U/3N\=;-!F(9[.]+%BKJ%L^T,8# M9A#L6LE;D2Z#>V+DMI=SD&.G*V6ZXWA&9RI5UPI$\Z%F&/-Z@M4"<.CX%>1> M=B26"22WHS<5>C=MZ_.$G[=2^TU^^8K]6\#+K]Q9PMQ\!6=>EVEI1'\6KDQ\ M[914^N9`PG-^R>QJUC)3`V?[BR0Q[A0WAZ_V_GSC;'_VJO_+^^QF<5 M_VMU;V]U;V]U;^]/>V_/NG@5!/#2A8TNY#EWY?BJ7+4:A0_PRW^%G?!>&-5L MF8=OG#+WO3*Z,SAZ]BBDA\G1!PB?-:R;/^'5OEN*7CNG4DTLH'^PE($FY_1' MEQR&H;W]E^9^-F_">)O-PFBU^>)I+Z613?LK5^BE7ZR>H%61.DTG7 M/T0UL5%]=GD;,&M`EV\_XB?:#]$"&5:/)./(9G2H!F0\DXQGG/'3E&H@J`F" MFFB-GTZU!F4_HB8%_U/,$HG)4ST+S?N3[4W> M4/_*0<.*LAA'#-P/A-[`HK=IO!1ERCDU.:>V!Y33,3GT^/0(3_UQ^@+8NGPY MK6.%FM,:_FT(UMP*_K4I]+HU_-64$<9.PPG/4.E+(=2M4>3!-+\%HOPN(?O+ MP445OV.$.B9Q-)RYTV)4Z]$DZG38F.5\+I=)CM-?Q/D^/X[U7X/SQ+/]JY,2%G MSNEIQYDC:02*[W!.[V!A/K3J3C"HORDOSD!)85U:(I#):!7`(BFS&8"6^L@I MW!PU8.1`"O@C`Z;W/J'8`XSN4X,$B?3DM4<+69T+TIMY MM2WX0QV&5&X3\BB5H*+B:DYWL-;](O`&/BV!=7IXUH&D\+75I@]?>!,+R63Z MH[6E_WL?TO_5ZOX[M;'D_M=V-^G_KSIT[.ZU6&_7_YNXJ_L]7^7P;ZN## M#'QM'.I+;U4$>'EQ]N']<-"98C#.K7DZW1HFW6BX!4E;LP\[FZT@I8>+\(Y^ M/PFEY,D6'HAB0YJ];L%`/U%;GO%)I MM7Q\XO&\K`Y5ZM!MWMT*H:A]K8&\(*A7AU7XIM8.E'G9G@X_BK1P@ MW20H,#J_GD*%8=2)A_9^B=#MPW'\*UXYQ_1P-`P_786?3IGBE(S`S'O+$1,VJ<^-3C+MQ5/VQ8658AJ#`M\/ MT_GX0SR&7-O+]<[I"<&A*[AOF5C0*D/=I-0&PUD'$H>-&5ZM7GL*Z6OA.UJB M&A&1PP6*%&NH*\&G7IS.ILEEN'EUPCCS*R.(Z%MJB!LEU#>[HTY1@_RJRK(F M"::!`__[E&@;2DRC01KW3BPV*:.2J5S8C'2">;:D%^?%O9!X#C?H!@""_Z_3 M#<;'[X?67M0/=MXKZ<>PN!\8H>,%>TI>ORL`"_Y?UA7"B?T0O:YH[45=87>X MDJZDQ5TY9G?#ZW<#X,#_U^H&XY/MB0)8U!.4)B7]($%3T)$C2+]!-Q#,=?N! M9;.],/47=0,$YO22^Y&5+&]'PY.B;OR$5:XM6JB!F%[A.S-'\>CNMF42]"-"?9 M:=4_C]+02:<'M0T:ID>*4GF/;-NE_4H[R46F3S=;B0):'`&M3[#MP$,16DJO M1!F2U;)S&CCGKF_QG@UT@"M(J\F4+FR>P;__2,9H2!?/[K"UVWS'1\H-7J;7 M^9\<*E>ROL*V`=L(UZES:R]A^S6:C]9.]H%M<4M!FR7+DFN0B`YNE(E^I[(3 MNO"A1!<6"N250X$_Z))+4.AZG@/E&;K;G^P'ZY2A,"C("CG(-?#YT5UGNO#= M2H)S);3NHR_Q5.F]F-(ZASU2"TNT_:'&F50IF<*PZRJC=J=98?:I7(-]>-WK MM+3*>J>IM0HV.)WV\G(\SX$B3>!B)LQZIW5BDEO%R6TGN6V3M_UDIO>TX_-V M^#&2@&WD>YD9`-@-[^MW(*0W&K0E+AP2D:I3(U6%Q\N'A*1J-.Z>8>"@L`$X M#>@VW3IBI]48RW7^QS#5.GXQ`VBO&KZ%G@*58-.C26MX-AD#:\!'69%2UO'O M%1,.3\A8H64`;5BBT466TZAX:R&`(6[-'0"`P0M($@"B,S4M`-6B^%\!@@Z\ M&2R>0)(/I+4$"/I(9S#Y,7GR6(!`7I._*1!(6>]UKW0[-SOCZA8#K4J56PLJ MX_7-+`V24ZT-N>DYU>\1ZD$VY;\=;%A7,4REDT[&?H_P,D^5":"Z`0*Y%VZZ%R3$FOQ@R("A`Z M9API?UTRS#@J),N2#*=/&"F89CD8J[Z=Q@EHTU/0WB9XFH6'UC")-F7CH=NC M\!,^5H_2X^)*LTCF?Y*7M?VL#C3-Q^28?FG2S3Y#JID,LTG"=MAYQL/'%K`5 M+$Y7/O*V&=ML>6'MH90E#?/3,$;32-2[@"T'_GL)_QIDK;JXN)RCD2TNZ*@\ MBPLZ"L7B@F:_7EP,AA]+V>UP23&?4C3@RA>PP)M*E^%VDROO6A1PIU!A'3A0-=4D+C-I)*&) M/W($R(-J>Z"V,Z!(3A>#RE+3(+7."[P+:-TN6X7`M!A)](4E4"`N+,"B0:=Q M":.0$"T#$Q03:)UW(EZW:#%=B(XL,XO[Q`O"$LI'X19BQ3KBHC;T='!)KNKO1J*3+1D5N[/*0+&^D<%329:,BC?"0+&^D M<%329:,BC?"0+&^D:%329:,B;?"0J!6RK(6[S6:SH`VVERX8$BJ`E:^6M]': M6]Y(X9!0`:I]C5;:[>;NLE8*QX0*4.UKM++=7MZ7PE&A`E2;SJ6>8!PH"M^, MWJ@BW3CJ_S0(SC%D](Q#YVS"NA.?\VM=%&"^^,71-:RD>A)66C=GCN\NUNVA MXL;V;G,#"(5(F,.VL&>CD8G)A8W$GT3>ZH9U/DLQD@?ZNJ[QB>$!O1'53R2& MC0CHD[5\>3F^-!54_30UU+HF9KQ/;*,\/QMTS]C8HV@(2= MAK=>L1,J@!OR=5/BFP.IK(`KZ]PFPC'%*.?*8"<*_*<41J][EC$]`=[>S\'8 M_8FZB?L;38H&[V38,RA#`PZ^F(.H^BU6I-*(S)MBUQF,3P*3`30T&='%B:DE M+2A`3J>63`L5/!*&I'$R;OPCGB;UD+/$;1MKH_6(JQI=2\_`8S-=Q/`;5I\\ MJJUEK:S-3'7$^RVZ4`/S2L<::$U?.PGV,",HMVI9C8P8OO*9/-**GELK+1Y]%OR2+@[%?$W9Y&E MU)0TPB/<=&PLF+ M_SACX!DJL$$5,I\_K3]OGCK2G::_,J$58U+HAM/4"\K_1=/AL^=LIAO9)$"I M:=E?`\G)HS0X;#R"L*6C8S&:BU)7PD.CPU"\&&&`DT:=CC+YH'<(@;>5S^7_\8_T_8>?[.[6QV/^SM7VGW0K# MW=V=W3M[VWMW=LG_ MTFW%[4W06#:/?Z!`S@%E-<*'I!21DRCZ5FD(T2[%G:;2Q__SXZO#X^?'P>8C MJA2\?==_]([#.+WK'Y[([QY\#]_UGTL,19M!SVUPGGS5'(J>QSGXE>-PV6P) M[M9_1%7M+D-RDU.G[,A`&N4!@5S73(WV93/1LN[]I&7?2V'I[22I7ZV3A-&7 MW)^3V(7*FR!!PI@LJ'=0ALC\)&;'7;R$NWEX&$!!I#;6B;K=>`*KR&C>P%#` M3H!;6AZ3,8?ECC_&4U20:%.5UL/X(N[.9[#<169!4HUWIAIOF$C$6PI_@+JV M<$!*R;8#<;S9)X.,1"PO@RT=FZ/X&'Y77/" M!J\%"#<"D&Y7!ZDNVP#'[!#PVNPTF9^>^5&B6#F(TTT,`#_&^Z9TYA M1XWCU`%HL&=)S@']UW3?EG:V"YPS&FS[<681W"COY,<5*&#NM"0:0'W%4371#)H8)Y.DK(-,K')7S`=[9 M'CAM"/,6MN&!#P@\1GL9Q[TU"CD6GDA['$^0)9B0\3:$=$44-'GF=$-97Q1)#LC'+3C*J)\!->)KJ840>T M'42I!4\@#9-D8D0(L22BAVT'G?AT,-:;]#`YZ_I*E!9CJ3B%F0NRBLACT34S M!29OL-98JTM\?.03VSV*V@M5CP>L#F`VDGB2I.D`#9^S1!NEHO4@VYD97M`? MHWX,<@*0;"3]AKPLQC?N,3H\2")&3JLBNP$9QC#G0ADS=U(X$H1AI2&+J<"E M%-=(YC/LEX181B7H2[)@YI",TB(,I3BKDZ7>D"D.U=XU=,W@VD`">/0 M)3D5(N`0,AW4:*`BGX:9.1**1U/@\]&@:^6DQ-6`\0]*JP/.;"B2,6>6P6G3 MB6>P9C)#`9$"QYYDV.%ZE(B"2328YBXL>71X07RY1L-!OZFU#+.,>*:.RB8J M[%#B=";SD2<3K9,JU\UN!SK[=QUFGMAB.`NP>W6*[S'&V"-=>2L1YYYRAF?> M=!B')@_.[\'8`84=:MI*0N:1V*)^R]DE]JTLS:*+C';AT^P,C8R?2;5`S8U? M1K5F,!@[8)!BH=+1(YK8X+Z0:(%'-(:9(1HJ7DRF.05\BC./?WK$ M(+53Z5%"$%D$9Z!_CBA(T-B[3]D8#CY0T)V1Z&D>P6!/=2.IL\JSHEO?SXF M:0K]>72IG086#\4%R+&^8G2ES8"TH&QMHRSJ@FXVC##"ZAR66UKD7AWC_+#7 MH^/?:)@'KNPJOD(\`ZTWC]-A-2ZP%H@[C*Q6YIH&9K-XA+8!'.`9OOUB-F:P MD3.[,D\9P@VUOJ!D=K3.II&V_W@Q:LXS87YQ%Y-G;B,R!'P/!$+4;G9GJU%A#J1A/@,X#/D:"]??WS,9V? MFIO,=-12G5GNKM5S>W]@Y&XT[?E[1NPV7>EP>L$$LL2P@X#J)W''R]_ MG0]@S>C.9[#?[P>FC*_M(-0NU/,_1H,A.F9X[04Z2]CVTC-;&"3`&$:?*4(8L*'F(P\:ON=.;X>AUI7E MR9HG.GQ)ZBTE>*'"EZ30+"2X0P<[,F];5_!6E6\*B9S+(^GLDFTG4C)0J1&& M_Y/,B=HR'^WJS01PFT'L+,S.95#2-U^6:`5?+K(ET16)XIR4-R4NV]+3U'.E M1^]C!#II:OJ`.V5RJ$^_=%,?_`#[1-4RU9V*Z#7&9&2A4PK?.D6L>,G&UKDO M0165*0KC5^.U3"!\GGH0+#2A'*MQEJWCK\[',5N"7DT',,_Q-MIE^&(S/)[% M,#=FE/4W-`P^5\,@%OCOS?!E,DUC@F&",`9>.,9V`_[L+(G`>$/[/YW_;+)E M\7_AL..EH]ETOK1DG#M(IGVBU,ZPY+$9A]T-)O6JVC/9,.O[;> M,&):L:#`@KJX&9Q,DUFR&$*2%E$/QA"2(=5$1`QT+8/!UZ^+Q[^08C*,B\:_ MC#T*Z[KC7U;1L,#B\2]E$&6!LO'/MEO.`F7COV!\'-XL'O\%=5T66#K^N>'* ML4"6NA@]LZ#:%);#;.$(M*CI;/$L_-ML,$P7C!(_3OPZ(PCR!;'74")`,S-R M*_V[$E7_/J(J3X#!*>RKBL;9Y)0-='%5,]33:/)UF=H<4B-GVQ\K2?QO+(E+ MF=CC\,7L73K4S.%%DK]8[&0/@#_3>2QW/]#!P,VPOH=P M#3KYL\1NKZ)^.A/RZ-?5I/ZWFM1_"L]9\?\4!OU]VEBB_[?:>[OZ_@=:`>C] MC]:=E?[_-3XV5C[+IC4OGKXL*AAK!TWB%%Q?0N0?'SY]^H3O[-&3Z?T>1CEO M[=,/OHUQ0+<3]]T0_?WN>#9$,%AJ&M-+8?05RF.P97G89XVSPN]Z]*X/Y=HW M@:"I!P?-6B@/@/7T87#$@*I5U[9Z\<>M7CKYN0757[T_>O+SD912U/`?`9ET M9T,`4P^/?WSR^/6+]T^.#]]3]_!!7FF;GVL,#T%-/F9S:)5>>QMW+F?H+3D? MX]*+KHSTPEQGW@_U-3E\+2,F^)!:EQH$$C()ZE'<3::]:\)5L!+A'@L/#YJA M?8!N(-^=`DB977VH,CU+IK/P-D9TK\KW6A4![YO!_?[EPZ._4A0UB=P4]0HZ ML*AS-"#Z4OLPY*?:.7>KC<^U'_!(;%%3]"+2Y.W@)(3TGOLTTA"J#\*&K8HC M\4=/FM5G]5E]5I_59_59?5:?U6?U67U6G]5G]5E]5I_59_7YDWS^/W?S/AD` #:`$` ` end From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 03:41:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA13553 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:41:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA13547 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA26419; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971012034139.01249@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 03:41:39 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a nice spectrum analyzer... References: <199710120841.JAA02959@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199710120841.JAA02959@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 09:41:11AM +0100 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo scribbled this message on Oct 12: > Try this out... is a nice spectrum analizer adapted from the "afft" > program in the AudioFile distribution... it's only 20K so I hope you > will forgive me if I enclose it in this email... > > you need tcl7.5 and a suitable tk for this... standard stuff in 2.2 and > above... > > right now it needs a full-duplex device (WSS clone) but if you delete > the line which write()s samples in afstubs.c you can use it with a > soundblaster as well. well.. I tried it out.. turns out that you included a stray .depend file.. so you will need to make depend first before it will build, once you do that it will stop complaining about /usr/local/include/AF/... or something... it does look nice.. the only complaint that I have is that there are 5 max peaks at 8k, 4 more at 16k, and then some other smaller ones when increased to 22k and 32k... any idea on those? they exist even when the mic is off.. so I'm thinking it's math errors.. this is VERY kool though.. I like the waterfall mode... ttyl.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 04:12:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA14500 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA14494 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA03062 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:54:27 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710120954.KAA03062@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 10:54:26 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is probably trivial to implement. Things are slightly more complex for /dev/synth since there are different synthesis devices on different hardware. Besides, timidity probably does a nice job at least for the casual user. I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 04:46:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15832 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15825 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03600; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710121146.EAA03600@rah.star-gate.com> To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848-yuv.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:25:35 -0200." <199710120925.HAA05511@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:46:44 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Joao Carlos Mendes Luis : > #define quoting(Amancio Hasty) > // 2. yuv12capture.c > // sample program to store frames to a file. It is a very simple > // program. > > Do we have some program to make generic captures from command line ? > > I'm making a program to take snaps from the bt848 driver. Right > now it does work writing PPM and JPEG images. Would it be useful > as a general tool ? Yeap, I think that it will be great to have . Mostly for the webcam type applications . Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 04:55:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA16136 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA16131 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03640; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710121155.EAA03640@rah.star-gate.com> To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a nice spectrum analyzer... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:41:11 BST." <199710120841.JAA02959@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 04:55:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > Try this out... is a nice spectrum analizer adapted from the "afft" It is nice program if we get change it to make our audio recorder it will be fantastic ! audio recorder: able to playback files , record to a file, select different sound formats. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 05:56:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA19279 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 05:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from eharden.com (eharden.com [207.193.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA19273 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 05:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (pp8.eharden.com [207.193.60.154]) by eharden.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12001; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:59:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00465; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: John-Mark Gurney cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a nice spectrum analyzer... In-Reply-To: <19971012034139.01249@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > it does look nice.. the only complaint that I have is that there are > 5 max peaks at 8k, 4 more at 16k, and then some other smaller ones when > increased to 22k and 32k... any idea on those? they exist even when > the mic is off.. so I'm thinking it's math errors.. > > this is VERY kool though.. I like the waterfall mode... ttyl.. > Still don't have my mad16 driver working (John-Mark I might take you up on your for-sale posting after I move and take on a stable job), so it's hard to comment on this. I bet you are sampling at 8 KHz. (-> artificial peaks at 8k?) Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 05:57:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA19332 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 05:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA19321 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 05:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA03246; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:39:16 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710121139.MAA03246@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: a nice spectrum analyzer... To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:39:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710121155.EAA03640@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Oct 12, 97 04:55:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > Try this out... is a nice spectrum analizer adapted from the "afft" > > It is nice program if we get change it to make our audio recorder > it will be fantastic ! > > audio recorder: able to playback files , record to a file, select > different sound formats. it should be a pretty straightforward task for someone fluent in tk/tcl. just include the "browse" from the tk demos, a few buttons and you are done... Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 06:19:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA20275 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from eharden.com (eharden.com [207.193.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA20270 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:19:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (pp8.eharden.com [207.193.60.154]) by eharden.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12031; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:22:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00600; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Al Johnson cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 and FxTv 0.45 In-Reply-To: <34404C8B.16C0EE9A@AJC.State.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Glad I am not the only one this happened to. You need to make sure /usr/include/machine and /sys/i386/include are one and the same directory. I ended up symb linking /usr/include/machine->/sys/i386/include. Best Regards, Bernie On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Al Johnson wrote: > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 23:05:31 -0500 > From: Al Johnson > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Bt848 and FxTv 0.45 > > I'm trying to upgrade from FxTv 0.44 to 0.45 but am > having a few problem. I grabbed the latest bt848 > (10/6/97) but at package make time for fxtv this is > what I get: > > tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTURESetInputFormat': > tvcapture.c:387: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:387: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > tvcapture.c:387: for each function it appears in.) > tvcapture.c:388: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCJ' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:389: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALBDGHI' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:390: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:391: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALN' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:392: `BT848_IFORM_F_SECAM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:393: `BT848_IFORM_F_RSVD' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:400: `BT848SFMT' undeclared (first use this function) > tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTURESetTunerFreqSet': > tvcapture.c:531: `CHNLSET_JPNCABLE' undeclared (first use this function) > tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTUREQueryDriverState': > tvcapture.c:653: `BT848GFMT' undeclared (first use this function) > tvcapture.c:658: `BT848_IFORM_F_AUTO' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:659: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:660: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCJ' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:661: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALBDGHI' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:662: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:663: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALN' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:664: `BT848_IFORM_F_SECAM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:665: `BT848_IFORM_F_RSVD' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:666: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch > statement > tvcapture.c:773: `CHNLSET_JPNCABLE' undeclared (first use this function) > tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTUREInit': > tvcapture.c:1135: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:1175: `BT848_IFORM_F_NTSCJ' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:1176: `BT848_IFORM_F_PALM' undeclared (first use this > function) > tvcapture.c:1181: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch > statement > > It goes on a little bit longer but this should be enough to > ident the problem. > > Any suggestions to correct this. > Thanks, > -- Al > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 06:53:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA21686 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from tolstoy.mpd.ca (mpd.ca [206.123.11.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA21681 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wlloyd@mpd.ca) Received: from mpd.ca (galt.mpd.ca [206.123.11.40]) by tolstoy.mpd.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26914; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3440D643.65D2B51F@mpd.ca> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:53:07 +0000 From: William Lloyd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernie Doehner CC: Al Johnson , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 and FxTv 0.45 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bernie Doehner wrote: > > Glad I am not the only one this happened to. > > You need to make sure /usr/include/machine and /sys/i386/include are one > and the same directory. > > I ended up symb linking /usr/include/machine->/sys/i386/include. > > Best Regards, > > Bernie > Just do cp /usr/src/sys/i386/include/ioctl_bt848.h /usr/include/machine chmod 444 /usr/include/machine/ioctl_bt8484.h -bill -- William Lloyd (wlloyd@mpd.ca) | From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 06:58:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA21997 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from eharden.com (eharden.com [207.193.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA21991 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (pp8.eharden.com [207.193.60.154]) by eharden.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12088; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:01:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00712; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Al Johnson cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 and FxTv 0.45 In-Reply-To: <3440D643.65D2B51F@mpd.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just do > cp /usr/src/sys/i386/include/ioctl_bt848.h /usr/include/machine > chmod 444 /usr/include/machine/ioctl_bt8484.h > > -bill That works too, however /usr/include/machine and /sys/i386/include should be one and the same directory (as they contain the same header files). Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 07:17:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA23393 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com (garbo.lodgenet.com [204.124.122.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA23373 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erich@jake.lodgenet.com) Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.122.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA02900; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:16:05 -0500 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05261; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:18:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199710121418.JAA05261@jake.lodgenet.com> To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848-yuv.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:25:35 -0200." <199710120925.HAA05511@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:18:55 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joao Carlos Mendes Luis writes: >#define quoting(Amancio Hasty) >// 2. yuv12capture.c >// sample program to store frames to a file. It is a very simple >// program. > >Do we have some program to make generic captures from command line ? > >I'm making a program to take snaps from the bt848 driver. Right >now it does work writing PPM and JPEG images. Would it be useful >as a general tool ? I'm building a c/tcl library to do similar things. Someday I'll try to figure out X programming and make my own tv. (like fxtv, but different) have a look at http://rrnet.com/~erich/tcltv.tgz, if you're interested. > > Jonny > >-- >Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br >+55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br >Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI >PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 > eric From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 12:51:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11263 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11254 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10469 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:51:01 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710121951.RAA10469@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Gravis Ultrasound is dead ? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:51:01 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Roel de Wit) // From: roel@slash.xs4all.nl (Roel de Wit) // Date: 11 Oct 97 19:28:28 +0100 // Subject: Please read this.. // To: gus-general@earth.GAIANET.NET // Hello All, // // Since it seems that Gravis has discontinued it's line of soundcards I would // like try to set up a programming/beta-testers team which I planning offer // Gravis so that they may have enough fate in us to give us the driver(s) // sources.. And this is where I/we need your help... // // For the programmers among you I have the following questions: // // - Do you have a GUS (of course you guys do)? Which one(s) ? // - Do you have some "REAL" C++/Assembly/driver programming experience ? If so // please give some details (things you made in the past, etc..) // - Would you be willing to do some coding on potential new GUS Classic/MAX/PnP // drivers for free ? // - Would you be willing to work as a member of a group (probably via a small // mailinglist) on this, just to be sure things won't run out of hand. // // Additionally I would also like to have some "skilled" beta-testers.. For this I // have the following line of questions about your hardware : // // - Type of GUS(ses) you posses // - Type of PC (CPU, Motherboard, RAM installed, cards installed) // - Operation System(s) you use. // - Additional hardware (such as MIDI keyboards etc) // // If you can answer the above questions positively please send me an EMAIL with // at least one of the above groups fully answered and perhaps equally important, // your motivation. // // The current goals are: // - Directsound drivers for GUS MAX cards (should not be too hard) // - Better digital audio streaming support in the GF1 drivers // - NT drivers for GUS MAX and probably also for the GUS Classic // - Fixing the MIDI-in bug in the GUS PnP's drivers // - A patchmaker for the GUS PnP line of cards // - 64+ Kb .fff file support // - Support for .XM and .IT modules via the Digital Music driver or an external // program that uses the drivers. // - Support for multiple layers in the GF1 drivers, possible through .fff/+.dat // support (the Linux driver allready has this) // - ??? Future Win98/NT5.0 drivers ??? // - Make GUS survive the coming years... // // When having anything to add to the above please do... // // P.S. I'll report back to you all in a week or two in the GUS Digest. // // Grtzzzzzzzzzz Roel // // Utopia Sound Division - http://sdc.wtm.tudelft.nl/utopia // << CHECK OUR WWW SITE FOR INFO ON OUR GUS PnP "Utopia" SOUNDBANK !! >> // mb164@hi.fontys.nl (school) | roel@slash.xs4all.nl (home) // // ... "I didn't know you believed in ghosts, Scully!"--Mulder // --- GoldED/386 3.00.Alpha4 UNREG // // ______ .... _________________________________________________________ // .... // .... Slash Internet Gateway - http://www.slash.nl/ // ___ ...._____________________________________________________________ // Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 13:27:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13511 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13506 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA11376; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:26:56 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710122026.SAA11376@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: no sound in FXTV In-Reply-To: <19971012094145.63622@bc1.com> from Jake at "Oct 12, 97 09:41:45 am" To: jake@bc1.com (Jake) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:26:56 -0200 (EDT) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Jake) // > Let's try to find where the problem is. Have you already tried some // > sound input in the sound-in plug of the audio card ? If it does work, // // No I haven't. Well sort of. I'm pretty new to all this. // I tryed recording an au file in fxtv, and it just records silence. // I can see the cpu go up, so I know it is recording, just silence. // I haven't tried recording audio from anywhere else, how do I do that? // I could hook my stereo up to my sound card input, but how do I record it? You don't need to recrord at all. Just set the mixer to accpet souhd from line in and listen to the output. // > Try also to connect the audio out from the bt848 card direct to the // > sound system. // // Tried that and I don't get anything. I thought it might be because Humm... So maybe it's a problem with the audio mux, or with the video card. The windows test will tell the difference. // the tv card wants to output to speakers, not an amplifier. This is not true. You could get noise, but there would be some sound. // its the same on the sound card, theres sound out and line out. // Only line out works with the stereo. Play with volume and recod levels and it should work. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 13:51:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15353 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15344 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:51:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05972; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710122051.NAA05972@rah.star-gate.com> To: john@jwlab.feith.com (John Wehle) cc: mark@greenpeace.grondar.za, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: guspnp20 Sound Driver Patches for Ensoniq Soundscape In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:28:28 EDT." <199710122028.QAA19529@jwlab.FEITH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:51:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Let me make this issue very clear. The sound driver in 2.2 and 3.0 is deprecated. At this time it is not desired to support the sound driver on 2.2 and 3.0 nor is it appreciated in lieu of all the effort that is going into Luigi's sound driver. Our current strategy is to backup up Luigi's sound driver project. Secondly, if you must have voxware type style sound driver functionality the patches should be against the gus pnp series of the sound driver. I do not wish to check the guspnp driver for fear of diverting resources from Luigi's sound driver. The gus pnp at this is just an interim solution for those who need the voxware type functionality. Luigi's sound driver is checked in to 3.0-current and he has patches for 2.2. If you do decide to check in the changes to 2.2 or 3.0 sound driver you run the risk of losing the patches. I don't have time for the guspnp driver , 2.2's sound driver and 3.0's sound driver. Amancio >From The Desk Of John Wehle : > I'm getting a little confused. I understand the desire for > something that is easy to support. What I do not understand > is that I've supplied a patch against what is * currently * > in FreeBSD 3.0 which allows the Ensoniq Soundscape to function. > Without this patch the Ensoniq Soundscape driver is considered > to be * busted * (and there is a comment in LINT to this affect). > What is the cost of applying my original patch to the current > source tree? The changes are all obviously safe with the possible > exception of the changes to sscape.c and even there how much > worse could I be making it since it's currently listed as broken? > > Note that I consider the second patch for sound/ad1848.c as > a separate issue. I understand that it is currently functional > and that any change is probably considered risky. > > -- John > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Feith Systems | Voice: 1-215-646-8000 | Email: john@feith.com | > | John Wehle | Fax: 1-215-540-5495 | | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 14:47:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18961 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from neptune.ajc.state.net (neptune.ajc.state.net [204.120.158.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18953 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Al.Johnson@AJC.State.Net) Received: from AJC.State.Net (saturn.ajc.state.net [204.120.158.166]) by neptune.ajc.state.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14913 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:45:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <34414554.E1FC65CA@AJC.State.Net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:47:00 -0500 From: User Al Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Compiling afft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay folks, I'm no guru here but I like to keep up with what you folks make possible. I've got the afft stuff but after looking at the man pages for imake I can't get a good makefile for this beast. Anyone willing to help one brain damaged individual compile this? Once I learn how to use Imake I'll probably never forget. -- Al From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 22:02:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16961 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16944 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01717; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710130502.WAA01717@rah.star-gate.com> To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848-yuv.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:18:55 CDT." <199710121418.JAA05261@jake.lodgenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:02:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, It would very nice to have a gimp plugin and ensure that we can do image processing on the capture image sequence. The linux sane (scsi scanner software) package is not a bad to start and it should take less than a day to write a sane module which will then be able to use with gimp. Additionally, I seem to remember an mpeg file editor so if someone can dig it up it will be a good thing to add to our video toolkit. As for writing support for a graphic library : QT or Amulet packages is not a bad place to start given that both are object oriented graphic packages for X. It should not be too hard to write a bt848 program using ximages and QT. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Eric L. Hernes" : > Joao Carlos Mendes Luis writes: > >#define quoting(Amancio Hasty) > >// 2. yuv12capture.c > >// sample program to store frames to a file. It is a very simple > >// program. > > > >Do we have some program to make generic captures from command line ? > > > >I'm making a program to take snaps from the bt848 driver. Right > >now it does work writing PPM and JPEG images. Would it be useful > >as a general tool ? > > I'm building a c/tcl library to do similar things. Someday I'll > try to figure out X programming and make my own tv. (like fxtv, but > different) > > have a look at http://rrnet.com/~erich/tcltv.tgz, if you're interested. > > > > > Jonny > > > >-- > >Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br > >+55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br > >Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI > >PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 > > > > eric From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 22:46:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA19667 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA19660 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from iang by brane.digs.iafrica.com with local (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xKdK2-0001I9-00; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:45:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Compiling afft In-Reply-To: <34414554.E1FC65CA@AJC.State.Net> from User Al Johnson at "Oct 12, 97 04:47:00 pm" To: Al.Johnson@AJC.State.Net (User Al Johnson) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:45:42 +0200 (SAT) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Ian Freislich Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk User Al Johnson spake thusly: > I'm no guru here but I like to keep up with what you folks make > possible. I've got the afft stuff but after looking at the man > pages for imake I can't get a good makefile for this beast. > Anyone willing to help one brain damaged individual compile this? > Once I learn how to use Imake I'll probably never forget. Use xmkmf to create the Makefile. -- igf (Ian Freislich) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 12 22:52:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA19996 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA19991 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10255; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Chuck Robey cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getting the Hauppage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Chuck Robey wrote: > I went looking on the ads and on the net, and everyone is selling cheap > knockoffs. Seeing as everyone seems to be saying that the dbs/tv/fm > version of the Hauppauge card is the best one, and I can't find out where > to buy it, does anyone at all know of a place I can order it from (via > mailorder, I suppose) ? Yeah, or over Web. I bought mine from PC Connection for pretty cheap. Beter can probably be found if you search. > I'm envious of all you guys playing with the neat toys. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 00:10:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA25022 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from goliat.eik.bme.hu (goliat.eik.bme.hu [152.66.250.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24788 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andras@eik.bme.hu) Received: from zsizsi (line49.dial.bme.hu [152.66.142.49]) by goliat.eik.bme.hu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03094 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:07:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <34421CD3.4C0DD7E9@eik.bme.hu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:06:27 +0200 From: zsilak-makra andras X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: miro pctv X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi! could you tell me if there's any windows nt dirver for this card? thanx andras From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 01:44:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA02001 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (wired.ctech.ac.za [155.238.4.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01991 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 01:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.ctech.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09444 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:45:02 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <3441DF8E.446B9B3D@wired.ctech.ac.za> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:45:02 +0200 From: Jacques Hugo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: et6000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ... Is it anyway possible that the Tseng ET6000 card will work with the bt848 drivers? Thanks -Jacques ------------------------------------------------------ The box said "Requires Windows 3.1 or better" ... so I got BSD System Administrator | Jacques Hugo UNIX Systems | jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za Cape Technikon | +27-21-4603584 ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 05:09:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA18046 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA18039 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19747; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:09:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:09:00 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-Reply-To: <199710120954.KAA03062@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the > moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is > probably trivial to implement. Things are slightly more complex for > /dev/synth since there are different synthesis devices on different > hardware. Besides, timidity probably does a nice job at least for the > casual user. > > I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use which > do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, and how > are you going to help in implementing these devices. Last time I used rosegarden it was okay, I installed guspnp15 and it has a tendency now to blow up and freeze the machine, although this might have been when I did something stupid... I don't know, but does rosegarden work for you, I'd love to actually have it as being usable for my AWE64. For now, I'll be happy sticking with guspnp15 until something new and wonderful comes along and I get more than just sound in quake.. Thanks, Steve Roome. Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 05:53:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA20816 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (wired.ctech.ac.za [155.238.4.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA20806 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.ctech.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13510 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:53:42 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <344219D5.ABD322C@wired.ctech.ac.za> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:53:41 +0200 From: Jacques Hugo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: video tuner cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ... What video tuner cards are supported by fbsd. Thanks -Jacques ------------------------------------------------------ The box said "Requires Windows 3.1 or better" ... so I got BSD System Administrator | Jacques Hugo UNIX Systems | jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za Cape Technikon | +27-21-4603584 ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 06:31:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA23102 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (wired.ctech.ac.za [155.238.4.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA23091; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.ctech.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA13640; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:31:27 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <344222AF.237C228A@wired.ctech.ac.za> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:31:27 +0200 From: Jacques Hugo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cardex tv tuner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ... Did enyone ever play with the Cardex VIVID Tune tv tuner/capture card to see if the Bt848 driver works on it? -Jacques ------------------------------------------------------ The box said "Requires Windows 3.1 or better" ... so I got BSD System Administrator | Jacques Hugo UNIX Systems | jacques@wired.ctech.ac.za Cape Technikon | +27-21-4603584 ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 08:14:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29533 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co ([168.176.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29528 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from giffunip@asme.org) Received: from unalmodem.usc.unal.edu.co ([168.176.3.50]) by bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with SMTP id AAA27482 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:18:06 +0500 Message-ID: <344255DE.A21@asme.org> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:09:50 -0700 From: "Pedro Giffuni S," Organization: U. Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [it] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Continuous Media Toolkit References: <199710130502.WAA01717@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I somehow have to insist on this one (Just found it's homepage ;-)); http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/projects/cmt/ cheers, Pedro. Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Hi, > > It would very nice to have a gimp plugin and ensure that we > can do image processing on the capture image sequence. > > The linux sane (scsi scanner software) package is not a bad to start > and it should take less than a day to write a sane module which will > then be able to use with gimp. > > Additionally, I seem to remember an mpeg file editor so if someone can > dig it up it will be a good thing to add to our video toolkit. > > As for writing support for a graphic library : QT or Amulet packages > is not a bad place to start given that both are object oriented graphic > packages for X. It should not be too hard to write a bt848 program > using ximages and QT. > > Cheers, > Amancio > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 09:25:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04192 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04179 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24680; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710131625.JAA24680@rah.star-gate.com> To: "Pedro Giffuni S," cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continuous Media Toolkit In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:09:50 PDT." <344255DE.A21@asme.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:25:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good find! Long time ago I had a port of this package working on my system. Should be interesting to find out from others how is the project now days. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Pedro Giffuni S," : > I somehow have to insist on this one (Just found it's homepage ;-)); > http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/projects/cmt/ > > cheers, > > Pedro. > > > > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > It would very nice to have a gimp plugin and ensure that we > > can do image processing on the capture image sequence. > > > > The linux sane (scsi scanner software) package is not a bad to start > > and it should take less than a day to write a sane module which will > > then be able to use with gimp. > > > > Additionally, I seem to remember an mpeg file editor so if someone can > > dig it up it will be a good thing to add to our video toolkit. > > > > As for writing support for a graphic library : QT or Amulet packages > > is not a bad place to start given that both are object oriented graphic > > packages for X. It should not be too hard to write a bt848 program > > using ximages and QT. > > > > Cheers, > > Amancio > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 09:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04566 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04557 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24704; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710131628.JAA24704@rah.star-gate.com> To: Stephen Roome cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:09:00 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:28:47 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Stephen Roome : > On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the > > moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is > > probably trivial to implement. Things are slightly more complex for > > /dev/synth since there are different synthesis devices on different > > hardware. Besides, timidity probably does a nice job at least for the > > casual user. > > > > I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > > /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > > Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use which > > do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, and how > > are you going to help in implementing these devices. > > Last time I used rosegarden it was okay, I installed guspnp15 and it has a > tendency now to blow up and freeze the machine, although this might have > been when I did something stupid... Care to elaborate under what circumstances or which programs causes guspnp15 to crashe your system? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 10:08:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07489 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07455 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23875; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:06:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:05:49 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Amancio Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-Reply-To: <199710131628.JAA24704@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >From The Desk Of Stephen Roome : > > On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > > > /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > > > Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use which > > > do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, and how > > > are you going to help in implementing these devices. > > > > Last time I used rosegarden it was okay, I installed guspnp15 and it has a > > tendency now to blow up and freeze the machine, although this might have > > been when I did something stupid... > > Care to elaborate under what circumstances or which programs causes guspnp15 > to crashe your system? Yikes! I did another inexplicably short unexplainable mail! Anyway, I don't have much info on this, all I know is that with my AWE64 is very good at helping to hang my machine. I've tried to use rosegarden a few times so far, first I tried the Randall Hopper's awedrv-0.4.0a (I'm not too sure about version numbers here), and that caused me no end of problems as far as pcm sound was concerned however I had some good midi sounds through the card and I was able to load soundbanks - happy for a while! I got Sujal's PNP patches (FreeBSD-ISA-PnP-June08.tgz I believe ?) and GUSPNP15, I'm running 3.0-970618-SNAP, which seems stable enough in most cases.. but here's a list of the problems I've got now: [Quake : Nothing caused by sound, xf86quak occasionaly dies horribly (freezes screen but doesn't actually shut down) when I try and quit, but I assume this is just poor Xdga programming - any ideas on this ?] cat mysound >> /dev/dsp occasionaly seems to come out slightly slow (I've tried options BROKENSB, but it doesn't help - rplay doesn't have the problem, so I gave up worrying about this.) I think this was happening with this as well cat /dev/dsp > mush cat mush >> /dev/dsp Also reading from /dev/dsp too quickly can cause a panic. e.g. any user can open /dev/dsp say O_RDWR | O_NONBLOCK, read and write tons of stuff direct to the device and panic the machine. [ found this out while hacking some stuff together really badly =) ] I'll check on some of the other problems I had when I was at home, but I found out most of them while on holliday, by the time I was going to say something we're onto guspnp20 and I've forgotten half the problems. I do have a fair amount of code with warnings which say "don't run me, it'll panic." That's mostly my fault I expect, although I was developing as joe luser, no special priviledges. Steve. -- Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 12:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17146 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from quimby.cs.berkeley.edu (quimby.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.32.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17088 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aswan@quimby.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from quimby.cs.berkeley.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quimby.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA18847; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710131927.MAA18847@quimby.cs.berkeley.edu> From: Andrew Swan To: Amancio Hasty cc: "Pedro Giffuni S," , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, cmt@bmrc.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Continuous Media Toolkit In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:25:45 PDT." <199710131625.JAA24680@rah.star-gate.com> X-URL: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~aswan/ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:27:25 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty writes: > From The Desk Of "Pedro Giffuni S," : > > I somehow have to insist on this one (Just found it's homepage ;-)); > > http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/projects/cmt/ > > Long time ago I had a port of this package working on my system. > Should be interesting to find out from others how is the > project now days. I worked for a while on CMT and would be happy to answer questions about it... If you are interested in similar toolkits, you should be aware of the MASH project here at Berkeley (see http://www-mash.cs.berkeley.edu/mash/). It is similar in spirit to CMT but has corrected a number of things that we got wrong. The differences are detailed in a paper by McCanne et al from NOSSDAV 97 available from http://www-mash.cs.berkeley.edu/mash/pubs/ Note that MASH already has code to use Bt848 (and meteor) frame grabbers and the voxware audio interface, which CMT does not have. If you are interested in looking at the actual source code for both systems, the CMT source code is available from http://bmrc/projects/cmt/versions/4.0/ That version is slightly out of date but we plan to make a new snapshot available soon. MASH has not yet been made publicly available but a release is being planned. -Andrew From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 23:30:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA26354 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh.jetcafe.org [207.155.21.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA26349 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh.jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh.jetcafe.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08359; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710140630.XAA08359@hokkshideh.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Guspnp 20? For 3.0 only? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:30:22 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So are you going to drop support for 2.2.X for GUS? Is that because there are no longer going to be any GUS? What do I do when running afft reboots my system when I run it? :-) BTW, I'm broadcasting again. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 13 23:32:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA26512 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA26507 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00317; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710140632.XAA00317@rah.star-gate.com> To: Dave Hayes cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guspnp 20? For 3.0 only? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:30:22 PDT." <199710140630.XAA08359@hokkshideh.jetcafe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:32:48 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just send me mail if the gus driver gives you grief. guspnp20 in essence the same as guspnp18. Glad to hear that you started broadcasting again. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Dave Hayes : > So are you going to drop support for 2.2.X for GUS? Is that because > there are no longer going to be any GUS? What do I do when running > afft reboots my system when I run it? > > :-) > > BTW, I'm broadcasting again. > ------ > Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org > >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< > Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet > > Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise. > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 14 08:56:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25973 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25968 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02389; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Jacques Hugo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: et6000 In-Reply-To: <3441DF8E.446B9B3D@wired.ctech.ac.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Jacques Hugo wrote: > Is it anyway possible that the Tseng ET6000 card will > work with the bt848 drivers? Yes. The drivers run the Bt848 only. However, it is unknown if the necessary programs can write directly to the card's framebuffer and if the bit ordering is correct. Best way to tell is to check out the mfr's web pages (ie Hauppauge) or try :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 14 14:07:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA17202 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:07:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17197 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13490; Tue, 14 Oct 97 17:05:01 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29377; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:00:52 -0400 Message-Id: <19971014170052.18238@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:00:52 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <199710120954.KAA03062@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710120954.KAA03062@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Sun, Oct 12, 1997 at 10:54:26AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the |moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is |probably trivial to implement. Things are slightly more complex for |/dev/synth since there are different synthesis devices on different |hardware. Besides, timidity probably does a nice job at least for the |casual user. | |I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and |/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle |Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use which |do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, and how |are you going to help in implementing these devices. Does this include /dev/sequencer too? I use this device all the time via drvmidi, xgmod, and some other apps on my AWE32 for playing MIDIs, MODs, 669s, etc. with AWE synth. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 14 14:08:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA17292 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17287 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13539; Tue, 14 Oct 97 17:06:58 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29390; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:02:50 -0400 Message-Id: <19971014170250.15327@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:02:50 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Jacques Hugo Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video tuner cards References: <344219D5.ABD322C@wired.ctech.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <344219D5.ABD322C@wired.ctech.ac.za>; from Jacques Hugo on Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 02:53:41PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jacques Hugo: |What video tuner cards are supported by fbsd. Check out the new FreeBSD Bt848 home page: http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html The Hauppauge Wincast and WinTV cards are a good pick. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 10:37:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05236 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05218 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA09458; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:14:10 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710151614.RAA09458@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:14:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971014170052.18238@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Oct 14, 97 05:00:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Luigi Rizzo: > |My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the > |moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is ... > Does this include /dev/sequencer too? I use this device all the time via yes it does. > drvmidi, xgmod, and some other apps on my AWE32 for playing MIDIs, MODs, > 669s, etc. with AWE synth. in fact I believe timidity is a possible alternative to this. it takes a midi file as input and produces the pcm samples using GUS-like patch files. It takes some CPU but at current prices it is probably cheaper to run timidity than buying a suitable sound card (and you can use the extra cpu capacity for other things when you are not playing sounds...) What I don't know is if it supports other file formats than midi. some investigation would be more than welcome... Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 10:41:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05749 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05700 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA09493; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:22:05 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710151622.RAA09493@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:22:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Roome" at Oct 13, 97 06:05:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > > > > /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle ... > Anyway, I don't have much info on this, all I know is that with my AWE64 > is very good at helping to hang my machine. > > I've tried to use rosegarden a few times so far, first I tried the Randall ... i have successfully run rosegarden instructing it to pipe the output through "timidity". I did not find a way to make this the default behaviour, so it was a bit annoying to select the output every time; but it was probably my fault for not having digged too deep in the docs. Furthermore, it is my understanding that the "portal" file system probably allows you to connect a name in the filesystem to a process so that you can make "/dev/sequencer" redirect to a process running "timdity" and have a software synthesizer (OSS has a product like this). The concept of portal is very nice the only unknown is that I have no idea how much of it really works having never used it. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 10:54:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07492 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07479 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:54:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02277; Wed, 15 Oct 97 13:52:48 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04361; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:48:29 -0400 Message-Id: <19971015134829.31569@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:48:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <19971014170052.18238@ct.picker.com> <199710151614.RAA09458@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710151614.RAA09458@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 05:14:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |> Luigi Rizzo: |> |My audio driver does not support /dev/midi and /dev/synth at the |> |moment. There are stubs for them though, and one (/dev/midi) is |... |> Does this include /dev/sequencer too? I use this device all the time via | |yes it does. | |> drvmidi, xgmod, and some other apps on my AWE32 for playing MIDIs, MODs, |> 669s, etc. with AWE synth. | |in fact I believe timidity is a possible alternative to this. it takes |a midi file as input and produces the pcm samples using GUS-like patch |files. It takes some CPU but at current prices it is probably cheaper |to run timidity than buying a suitable sound card (and you can use the |extra cpu capacity for other things when you are not playing sounds...) I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with GUS patches doesn't touch that with the AWE wavetable. I think I'll stay with the awe driver for this type of stuff. |What I don't know is if it supports other file formats than midi. some |investigation would be more than welcome... >From the man page, it sounds like just MIDIs, compressed or uncompressed. Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 11:48:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA13013 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA12993 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA09694; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:30:24 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710151730.SAA09694@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:30:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971015134829.31569@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Oct 15, 97 01:48:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice > program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt > cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with > GUS patches doesn't touch that with the AWE wavetable. I think I'll stay ok. do you know if it is possible to use the AWE patches with timidity ? cheers luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 11:49:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA13198 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13156 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:49:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04999; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710151847.LAA04999@rah.star-gate.com> To: Luigi Rizzo cc: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:22:04 BST." <199710151622.RAA09493@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:47:47 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hm... Try to see if rosegarden works with the stock sound driver. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > > > On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > > I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > > > > > /dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > ... > > Anyway, I don't have much info on this, all I know is that with my AWE64 > > is very good at helping to hang my machine. > > > > I've tried to use rosegarden a few times so far, first I tried the Randall > ... > > i have successfully run rosegarden instructing it to pipe the output > through "timidity". I did not find a way to make this the default > behaviour, so it was a bit annoying to select the output every time; > but it was probably my fault for not having digged too deep in the docs. > > Furthermore, it is my understanding that > the "portal" file system probably allows you to connect a > name in the filesystem to a process so that you can make > "/dev/sequencer" redirect to a process running "timdity" and have a > software synthesizer (OSS has a product like this). > > The concept of portal is very nice the only unknown is that I have no > idea how much of it really works having never used it. > > Cheers > Luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 15 11:54:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA13822 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA13790 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA09719; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:35:34 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710151735.SAA09719@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:35:34 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971015134829.31569@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Oct 15, 97 01:48:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice > program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt > cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with i forgot... also CPUs are dirt cheap these days, and last time I checked a Pentium133 (or 166 ?) was cheaper than an AWE32... my point is, perhaps you can invest the money for the wavewable card into a much faster (or secondary) CPU. Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 00:45:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA12776 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA12744 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA10739; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:24:49 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710160624.HAA10739@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:24:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971015171047.05325@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Oct 15, 97 05:10:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Luigi Rizzo: > |> Luigi Rizzo: > |> |I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > |> |/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > |> |Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use > |> |which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, > |> |and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. ... > If the functionality is there from the old driver, why rip it out? neither the original driver nor the new one do everything we would like to. So either choice you make, it will leave some people disappointed. I am well aware of that and so I am perfectly comfortable with people using the old driver if it works for them. I would be more than happy to add missing features to the new driver, but I have only so much time and especially not enough expertise and hardware for developing and testing /dev/synth, so it will be necessary that someone steps in and helps. I will be more than glad to help on this. It is not a matter of "ripping out functionality", the new driver is a complete rewrite and we cannot simply cut&paste files from the old one without understanding what they do. I also want to point out that the new driver with support for a ton of different cards and extensive comments amounts to about 5000 lines of C code. The synth-related functionalities in guspnp10a are as following: prova# wc *c 3384 10481 90014 awe_wave.c 4877 16389 124344 gus_wave.c 679 2065 15823 midi_synth.c 1632 4532 36632 mpu401.c 1132 3531 27447 opl3.c 1769 4959 37811 sequencer.c and others. Assuming that there is some severe code bloat, still it will be a non trivial task to extract the useful stuff from these big files which in some cases come straight from the SDK of the various manufacturers. One of the goals of the new driver was to have a high-quality piece of software, documented and easy to follow even from other people than the author. Importing large files from some vendor's SDK is not the way to achieve this result. > You originally asked for those that use the synth devices with the old > sound driver to speak up and I did. Though the AWE driver and sequencer > apps, I play MIDIs, MODs, 669s, S3Ms, etc. (while I work on other things) > and the Doom Music server (on occasion) on the wavetable side of my SB32. > It sounds like I didn't give you the answer you wanted. well you missed the last sentence :) really I hoped that people like you could help in adding support for the synth since you certainly have quite some expertise and maybe even interest in these features. But of course you also might have limited time and cannot work on everything. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 03:08:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA20066 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA20061 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Resent-From: rhh@ct.picker.com Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 6:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02699; Thu, 16 Oct 97 06:08:18 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA06420; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:03:58 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <199710161003.GAA06420@elmer.ct.picker.com> Message-Id: <19971015171047.05325@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:10:47 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <19971015134829.31569@ct.picker.com> <199710151735.SAA09719@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710151735.SAA09719@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 06:35:34PM +0100 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:03:58 -0400 Resent-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |> Luigi Rizzo: |> |I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and |> |/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle |> |Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use |> |which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, |> |and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. |> |> I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice |> program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt |> cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with | |i forgot... also CPUs are dirt cheap these days, and last time I |checked a Pentium133 (or 166 ?) was cheaper than an AWE32... | |my point is, perhaps you can invest the money for the wavewable card |into a much faster (or secondary) CPU. Are you serious? So do you mean to say that since there's a program that'll do better-than-nothing MIDI synth on the CPU, we should rip out support for the synth devices and for soundcards that support synth in hardware? ...Ignoring for a second the fact that MIDIs aren't the only thing the synth devices are used for, that not everyone's rolling in upgrade money like you and me, and that the audio quality and CPU load of timidity is -- just that, better-than-nothing. If the functionality is there from the old driver, why rip it out? You originally asked for those that use the synth devices with the old sound driver to speak up and I did. Though the AWE driver and sequencer apps, I play MIDIs, MODs, 669s, S3Ms, etc. (while I work on other things) and the Doom Music server (on occasion) on the wavetable side of my SB32. It sounds like I didn't give you the answer you wanted. Now if the absense of the synth devices is just a temporary thing not intended to be the case in the checked-in release, then I that's fine -- I misunderstood. But if we're talking about removing them for good, then I have objections to this. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 03:58:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA21491 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA21484 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00353; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710161056.DAA00353@rah.star-gate.com> To: Randall Hopper cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:10:47 EDT." <19971015171047.05325@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:56:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Guys, Just be a little patient. Luigi is coming up to speed and to be honest he needs a hand to help him solve some of the technical issues. Luigi's driver is sufficiently different that one can not just rip code out of the linux sound driver and drop in his driver and Randall I expect for you to understand this because you have cursory knowledge of both sound drivers. On the down side , if we manage to burn him up then it seems to me that the next alternative for full fledge support is the OSS driver. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > > Luigi Rizzo: > |> Luigi Rizzo: > |> |I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > |> |/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > |> |Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use > |> |which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, > |> |and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. > |> > |> I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice > |> program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are di rt > |> cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality wit h > | > |i forgot... also CPUs are dirt cheap these days, and last time I > |checked a Pentium133 (or 166 ?) was cheaper than an AWE32... > | > |my point is, perhaps you can invest the money for the wavewable card > |into a much faster (or secondary) CPU. > > Are you serious? > > So do you mean to say that since there's a program that'll do > better-than-nothing MIDI synth on the CPU, we should rip out support for > the synth devices and for soundcards that support synth in hardware? > ...Ignoring for a second the fact that MIDIs aren't the only thing the > synth devices are used for, that not everyone's rolling in upgrade money > like you and me, and that the audio quality and CPU load of timidity is -- > just that, better-than-nothing. > > If the functionality is there from the old driver, why rip it out? > > You originally asked for those that use the synth devices with the old > sound driver to speak up and I did. Though the AWE driver and sequencer > apps, I play MIDIs, MODs, 669s, S3Ms, etc. (while I work on other things) > and the Doom Music server (on occasion) on the wavetable side of my SB32. > It sounds like I didn't give you the answer you wanted. > > Now if the absense of the synth devices is just a temporary thing not > intended to be the case in the checked-in release, then I that's fine -- I > misunderstood. But if we're talking about removing them for good, then I > have objections to this. > > Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 04:42:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA23031 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA22866 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:38:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA11063; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:14:26 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710161014.LAA11063@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:14:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710161056.DAA00353@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Oct 16, 97 03:56:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Guys, > > Just be a little patient. Luigi is coming up to speed and to be honest > he needs a hand to help him solve some of the technical issues. > > Luigi's driver is sufficiently different that one can not just rip > code out of the linux sound driver and drop in his driver and > Randall I expect for you to understand this because you have > cursory knowledge of both sound drivers. > > On the down side , if we manage to burn him up then it seems to me > that the next alternative for full fledge support is the OSS driver. Thanks Amancio for the support. I am perfectly comfortable if people decides to support OSS, guspnp, or write some other sound driver, and I will try to do my best to help them in their work. The main reason I wrote my own audio driver was not to impose a different one, just to solve a problem I had in a way that could be possibly useful to others. Since I have solved my problems, learned quite something, and have had several other people happily using my driver, I am quite satisfied with what I have done so far. Due to other work etc. I can only dedicate limited time (much less than during the past summer) to the support of new features, and prefer to concentrate on other aspects such as supporting more cards, bug fixes etc. Besides there are some application areas where I don't have enough knowledge to do a good job and definitely need help. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 05:08:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA24263 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA24248 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Resent-From: rhh@ct.picker.com Received: from ct.picker.com ([144.54.37.11]) by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 6:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02695; Thu, 16 Oct 97 06:08:09 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA06415; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:03:51 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <199710161003.GAA06415@elmer.ct.picker.com> Message-Id: <19971015144955.58370@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:49:55 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <19971015134829.31569@ct.picker.com> <199710151730.SAA09694@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710151730.SAA09694@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 06:30:23PM +0100 Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:03:51 -0400 Resent-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |> I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice |> program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt |> cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with |> GUS patches doesn't touch that with the AWE wavetable. I think I'll stay | |ok. do you know if it is possible to use the AWE patches with timidity ? No, I really don't. I've seen a GUS patch to AWE sample converter, but haven't ever seen one going the other direction. Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 06:35:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA28849 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA28836 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16816 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:34:13 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710161334.LAA16816@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Somebody tell Randall, please ! To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:34:13 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think Randall Hopper has problems in his mail system. Could somebody please tell him ? Sorry to use this list, but it the only place I'm sure somebody else knows Randall, and I have no contact with him other than email. #define quoting(Mail Delivery Subsystem) // From Mailer-Daemon@ct.picker.com Thu Oct 16 11:26:07 1997 // Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 09:22:33 EDT // From: Mailer-Daemon@ct.picker.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) // Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail // Message-Id: <9710161322.AE00277@ct.picker.com> // To: // ----- Transcript of session follows ----- // 554 qfAA07067: line 6: "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/procmail/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #rhh"... Cannot mail directly to programs // // ----- Unsent message follows ----- // Return-Path: // Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) // id AA07067; Thu, 16 Oct 97 08:55:18 EDT // Received: (from jonny@localhost) // by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15306 // for rhh@ct.picker.com; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:15 -0200 (EDT) // (envelope-from jonny) // From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis // Message-Id: <199710161255.KAA15306@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> // Subject: Re: Diffs... // In-Reply-To: <19971015223946.44015@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Oct 15, 97 10:39:46 pm" // To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) // Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:14 -0200 (EDT) // X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] // Mime-Version: 1.0 // Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII // Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ... deleted ... Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 06:57:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA00299 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA00290 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (nash@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id IAA10306 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA02663 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:57:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: fxtv 0.45 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with fxtv 0.45, the latest bt848 driver (2.2-stable as of about two days ago), and WinCast/TV dbx. Specifically, fxtv dumps core. Here's what I got from gdb: Starting program: /tmp/fx/./fxtv Xlib: extension "XFree86-DGA" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error. 0x17e1b in TVSCREENGetCurVidModeGeometry (s=0x63860, width=0xefbfd662, height=0xefbfd660) at tvscreen.c:180 (gdb) print *s $1 = {display = 0x6b800, screen = 0, visual = 0x74a00, visual_modes = 0x7e0e0, num_visuals = 3, active_visual = 2, fb_visual = 0x74800, base_addr = 0, pitch = 0, bank_size = 0, ram_size = 0, vmode_ext_supported = 0, vmode_majv = 0, vmode_minv = 0, vm_list = 0x0, vm_list_len = 0, vm_startup = 0} Line 180 attempts to dereference vm_list, which is NULL. What I don't know, is why vm_list is NULL. The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my SMC network card :). Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into displaying anything from my VCR. I thought this might be a kernel/user level mismatch (the program was built against older sources), so I grabbed 0.45 to get everything in sync. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Alex From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 11:15:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA14890 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14880 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01725; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710161815.LAA01725@rah.star-gate.com> To: Alex Nash cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:57:15 CDT." Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:15:34 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Whats your graphics card/model? Can you send us the output of your xinit or the log of the X server startup? The "Warning : Actions not found: TVSetChannel" is about fxtv not finding Fxtv the X resource file which needs to be in your home directory or do a ktrace on fxtv to find out where is it looking for it. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Alex Nash : > I'm having a problem with fxtv 0.45, the latest bt848 driver > (2.2-stable as of about two days ago), and WinCast/TV dbx. > Specifically, fxtv dumps core. Here's what I got from gdb: > > Starting program: /tmp/fx/./fxtv > Xlib: extension "XFree86-DGA" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". > Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel > > Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error. > 0x17e1b in TVSCREENGetCurVidModeGeometry (s=0x63860, width=0xefbfd662, > height=0xefbfd660) at tvscreen.c:180 > > (gdb) print *s > $1 = {display = 0x6b800, screen = 0, visual = 0x74a00, visual_modes = > 0x7e0e0, num_visuals = 3, active_visual = 2, fb_visual = 0x74800, > base_addr = 0, pitch = 0, bank_size = 0, ram_size = 0, > vmode_ext_supported = 0, vmode_majv = 0, vmode_minv = 0, vm_list = > 0x0, vm_list_len = 0, vm_startup = 0} > > Line 180 attempts to dereference vm_list, which is NULL. What I don't > know, is why vm_list is NULL. > > The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my > SMC network card :). Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which > would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into > displaying anything from my VCR. I thought this might be a > kernel/user level mismatch (the program was built against older > sources), so I grabbed 0.45 to get everything in sync. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > > Alex > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 12:58:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA21735 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21710 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (gozer@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25699 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:56:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: multicast Interactive Radio - mIR Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get a program written in java to work under FreeBSD. The program uses multicast, and that seems to be the problem. Does jdk1.1 for FreeBSD work with multicast? The error message i get is: Error creating netgroup, java.net.SocketException: Undefined error: 0 The program i'm trying is called mIR and is written by Peter Parnes at CDT here at Luleå Technical University. It can be downloaded from: http://www.cdt.luth.se/~peppar/progs/mIR/ I hope someone know whats going on. Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * finger gozer@mother.ludd.luth.se for more information... +-+-+-+ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 14:04:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA24807 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24802 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02207; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710162104.OAA02207@rah.star-gate.com> To: Johan Larsson cc: FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: Re: multicast Interactive Radio - mIR In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:56:41 +0200." Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:04:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why don't you ask Peter since he is aware of FreeBSD 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Johan Larsson : > I am trying to get a program written in java to work under FreeBSD. The > program uses multicast, and that seems to be the problem. Does jdk1.1 for > FreeBSD work with multicast? The error message i get is: > > Error creating netgroup, java.net.SocketException: Undefined error: 0 > > The program i'm trying is called mIR and is written by Peter Parnes at CDT > here at Luleå Technical University. It can be downloaded from: > http://www.cdt.luth.se/~peppar/progs/mIR/ > > I hope someone know whats going on. > > Johan > -- > * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * > * finger gozer@mother.ludd.luth.se for more information... +-+-+-+ * > * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 15:50:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA29692 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA29686 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gozer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (gozer@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA01796; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:49:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:49:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: Amancio Hasty cc: FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: Re: multicast Interactive Radio - mIR In-Reply-To: <199710162104.OAA02207@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Why don't you ask Peter since he is aware of FreeBSD 8) Well, he doesn't know either, and he doesn't have much time over to look into it. Johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * finger gozer@mother.ludd.luth.se for more information... +-+-+-+ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 16:13:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA00560 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00554 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02619; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710162312.QAA02619@rah.star-gate.com> To: Johan Larsson cc: FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: Re: multicast Interactive Radio - mIR In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:49:18 +0200." Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:12:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, just post on the hackers list and the maintainers of java will respond. This is sort of ties to something else whats is the current status of java for freebsd -- basically I suspect that we are lacking a little bit behind in the java front. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Johan Larsson : > On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Why don't you ask Peter since he is aware of FreeBSD 8) > > Well, he doesn't know either, and he doesn't have much time over to look > into it. > > Johan > -- > * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * > * finger gozer@mother.ludd.luth.se for more information... +-+-+-+ * > * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 16:13:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA00587 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00579 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@Jupiter.Mcs.Net) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (nash@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id SAA16739; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA00556; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:05:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash To: Amancio Hasty cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-Reply-To: <199710161815.LAA01725@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, Hi Amancio, thanks for your Bt848 work. > Whats your graphics card/model? Matrox Millenium. > Can you send us the output of your xinit or the log of the > X server startup? Xaccel 3.1 (build 3100) Accelerated-X Server Copyright (c) 1990,91,92,93,94,95,96 by Thomas Roell Copyright (c) 1993,94,95,96 by X Inside Inc. All Rights Reserved Unpublished -- Rights reserved under the Copyright Laws of the United States [Registration info deleted] Configuration file: /etc/Xaccel.ini FreeBSD using /dev/ttyv3 PCI (#2/0, 8000000f) MATROX,17: 2064W,TVP3026 (8192k @f0000000, [0.000 - 175.000MHz]) > The "Warning : Actions not found: TVSetChannel" is about fxtv > not finding Fxtv the X resource file which needs to be in > your home directory or do a ktrace on fxtv to find out where > is it looking for it. Fxtv does try hard to find it: 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/C/Fxtv-color" 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/Fxtv-color" 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/C/Fxtv" 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/Fxtv" 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults/Fxtv" 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/app-defaults/Fxtv" Unfortunately, the port installs it into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults: install -c -m 444 -o root Fxtv $(X11BASE)/lib/X11/app-defaults Alex From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 16:21:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA00991 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00984 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02648; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710162321.QAA02648@rah.star-gate.com> To: Alex Nash cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:05:21 CDT." Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:21:39 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Alex, For now, I recommend that you install XFree86 3.3.1 . I also have xaccel however I don't use it and one of the reasons is its lack of the dga extension which is an xfree86 extension however early on I did request such an extension to xaccel's server and i was turned down no big deal from my perspective so I just simply stick to xfree86. About Fxtv , thats Randall's dept. and he should be able to fix fxtv so it looks for Fxtv in the right place in the X distribution and it is pretty obvious what you can do for now to get fxtv to locate Fxtv. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Alex Nash : > > Hi, > > Hi Amancio, thanks for your Bt848 work. > > > Whats your graphics card/model? > > Matrox Millenium. > > > Can you send us the output of your xinit or the log of the > > X server startup? > > Xaccel 3.1 (build 3100) Accelerated-X Server > Copyright (c) 1990,91,92,93,94,95,96 by Thomas Roell > Copyright (c) 1993,94,95,96 by X Inside Inc. > All Rights Reserved > Unpublished -- Rights reserved under the Copyright Laws of the United > States > > [Registration info deleted] > > Configuration file: /etc/Xaccel.ini > FreeBSD using /dev/ttyv3 > > PCI (#2/0, 8000000f) > MATROX,17: 2064W,TVP3026 (8192k @f0000000, [0.000 - 175.000MHz]) > > > The "Warning : Actions not found: TVSetChannel" is about fxtv > > not finding Fxtv the X resource file which needs to be in > > your home directory or do a ktrace on fxtv to find out where > > is it looking for it. > > Fxtv does try hard to find it: > > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/C/Fxtv-color" > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/Fxtv-color" > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/C/Fxtv" > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/home/alex/Fxtv" > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults/Fxtv" > 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/app-defaults/Fxtv" > > Unfortunately, the port installs it into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults: > > install -c -m 444 -o root Fxtv $(X11BASE)/lib/X11/app-defaults > > Alex > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 16:49:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA02338 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02332 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01285; Thu, 16 Oct 97 19:48:35 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA11951; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:44:19 -0400 Message-Id: <19971016194418.46875@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:44:18 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <19971015171047.05325@ct.picker.com> <199710160624.HAA10739@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710160624.HAA10739@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 07:24:48AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |well you missed the last sentence :) Well, no truthfully I did see that last phrase the first time. :-) It brought back memories of my "enjoyable" strolls through the current driver code figuring out the mods to port the Linux AWE driver into it (and after that, memories of how much time I spent getting the one module committed). That was just porting; we're now talking about redesigning, not just the driver, but the entire working synth subsystem. Time, Talent, and Enthusiasm allowing, I'm with you. I prefer clear code with good comments and an interface and design document so its easy to maintain and extend, particularly when it's done that way the first time. However, if across the group we're lacking T T or E for a rewrite, unless you know of some prohibitive bugs in the existing synth code, it might be a good idea to lean toward working it so that the synth system's existing external APIs can be "plugged in" so-to-speak across a DMZ (your clean code on one side; ugly-but-functional code on the other) into a compatibility API in your rewritten modules. We can leave a "FIXME: rewrite me someday" comment in the synth modules for when TT&E all come along to rewrite them. I guess while you're writing your documentation over the next few days (which will of course be a big help to whoever does the rewrite), you might jot your ideas on the synth redesign in an Appendix. With your knowledge, this should give the person(s) that take this on a big head start. | really I hoped that people |like you could help in adding support for the synth since you |certainly have quite some expertise and maybe even interest in |these features. But of course you also might have limited time and |cannot work on everything. Well thanks, but I actually don't know much about the current sound driver innards. I just did the port of the AWE module, poking around in that current driver enough to accomplish that. In terms of TT&E, over an extended period I could probably find the time. Talent, read "innate knowledge of the old synth systems' inner workings", is severely lacking now but could be developed (with listings, a highlighter, much coffee, and some aspirin :-). However, in rank on the rest of my "things I could be doing with my free time" list, the prospect of redesigning this working subsystem isn't way up there. Someone else more into soundcard coding might be interested in this project though. Randall Randall Hopper: >Luigi Rizzo: >||>|I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and >||>|/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle >||>|Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use >||>|which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, >||>|and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. >||> >||> Does this include /dev/sequencer too? I use this device all the time via >|| >||yes it does. >||in fact I believe timidity is a possible alternative to this. it takes >| >|> I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice >|> program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are dirt >|> cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality with >| >|i forgot... also CPUs are dirt cheap these days, and last time I >|checked a Pentium133 (or 166 ?) was cheaper than an AWE32... >| >|my point is, perhaps you can invest the money for the wavewable card >|into a much faster (or secondary) CPU. > >So do you mean to say that since there's a program that'll do >better-than-nothing MIDI synth on the CPU, we should rip out support for >the synth devices and for soundcards that support synth in hardware? From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 17:22:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA04727 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04720 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA12070; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:21:48 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710170021.WAA12070@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-Reply-To: from Alex Nash at "Oct 16, 97 06:05:21 pm" To: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:21:47 -0200 (EDT) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Alex Nash) // 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults/Fxtv" /usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults ??? Is this right ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 18:47:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA09147 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA09136 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03365; Thu, 16 Oct 97 21:46:39 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA12189; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:42:26 -0400 Message-Id: <19971016214225.13774@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:42:25 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Alex Nash Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex Nash on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 08:57:15AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alex Nash: |I'm having a problem with fxtv 0.45, the latest bt848 driver |(2.2-stable as of about two days ago), and WinCast/TV dbx. Ok, let me see if I can help out. | Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel This one's my bust. TVSetChannel is history. It's TVSetStation now. I changed this in the global Fxtv resource file, but I missed it in the internal fall-back. If fxtv can't find the global resource file (via XFILESEARCHPATH), it falls back on internal defaults in the code. To fix, either: setenv XFILESEARCHPATH /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%S or something similar; or replace the "TVSetChannel" refs in app_rsrc.h with "TVSetStation", remove tv.o, and relink fxtv. Or do both. | Starting program: /tmp/fx/./fxtv | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DGA" missing on display ":0.0". | Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". ... |Xaccel 3.1 (build 3100) Accelerated-X Server As Amancio mentioned, Xaccel doesn't support DGA or the VidMode extension, so these messages are expected. However, fxtv does have the capability to exclusively use X-Images for display which are a standard X feature (though a bit slower depending on CPU speed and video card, but better than nothing). So the core dump is definitely a bug, not a feature. :-) |Specifically, fxtv dumps core. Here's what I got from gdb: ... | Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error. | 0x17e1b in TVSCREENGetCurVidModeGeometry (s=0x63860, width=0xefbfd662, | height=0xefbfd660) at tvscreen.c:180 ... |Line 180 attempts to dereference vm_list, which is NULL. What I don't |know, is why vm_list is NULL. ...and thanks for the info. If you apply the attached patch, I think it'll get you over that snag. A piece of the video annotation code I added for 0.45 mistakenly "assumed" that the vidmode extension was there without checking "is it supported" variable first. The attached patch remedies this oversight. |The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my |SMC network card :). Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which |would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into |displaying anything from my VCR. I thought this might be a This I'm really not sure about. I'm assuming you set inputFormat as desired. The did you select "Video" from the Input menu? Also try selecting the Tuner input, put fxtv on your VCR's control channel (2,3,4), and put the VCR's VCR/TV selection on VCR. See if either of these gives you something better than static. Good luck! And I hope this helps. Randall --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="3.xaccel.patch.gz" H4sICJrARjQAAzMueGFjY2VsLnBhdGNoAO1X227aQBB9jr9imofUYBNsczEXJUoUCEVqgQZK 0pssBy9hJWMje7mkqP/evdiYEkgaKelL2Afs9c7Mnplz1mYymQzYnueT48Fx+6rZOLgMMLQH BHQNDK2i5Sp6GfRy2ZQURYktD3qjqTAqgqFXcnqlEBmdnUHGMA21CAq7GBqcnUkgQTadebmR ztKQSkhsggcw87EDvf55q9XuNRD55DuogfyxLCmwMWp4jLwQ+x6fpefYISP1SbMRwncjAilJ WQrbXt+66V5c1estYZ8O4QSOGtad698eL6qSIszwEGQIM6ezMUVkoQWxwulk4gcEOSxYvFuv L2JR6BfToI+dOAFEgnsaQAWBE2IcVeGL3BAlUUQyQIHUcDhx7ftrPpdp+Fqz2/l4/lVd7QSp taTj9FaOH/h8hyPd+zfLT4Itxe+yR77XCfxJF5FaYM/tWxd18S8kUwFsDlpF7hXBsNXdJlbn qt2B9EQV6iqZqglKTtPphYmLjZtL3yN01/qCII+EkEbipipFW2fTlFhEUDDGHgIPzWGCF8iF kMKDWzukpFDCY9Dise05QAlBPjBOKMislPk3yo5mYyuijd1uULdFrLs9OHqO1eKgTuDzl/NW r/mtbl22Wz2rS+9kkGmtmq1ezkhFnmlIomTBLJbor17gAZOCNIfg4OEQBbRUQEa2R38QrQOC OXo/Q3DnExUC5Pq2Azbhi6xyHAerBqMjp5c4HTl25mM6dh+nSM1Pmq1OHSzjoj9+6v6SwSrq kM5DRKLluEir5aSukcUGCoCEFpGtURTZlvfie5746JfgFcRXEO8CU3sT4isK8ZmlNfFtjr34 /pf48prG6Mjrb+LNl9dFtsb6Zxd7yYZ8hCQQXnv5vbr88nlOSKHwJuRXENkW83v5PVt+L/2/ j7ZgQGbhIEDIi9vGa1pJ1hFCibWNebNirLWNifHDzlErJp2jbjIxK+yi5zjNy4Rp3kixPJL2 6t2u/gqWSYsznATUfUgJIg4KAhUetnxw+Ci3MLBdl4adYzLypwSiZTjcFokigQjJD+9wRT4b aIGJrMdPWCcVSZ0FO9muLwp7jb2kz5N56paLQ5L6ziP8zJyOHNHEVaU/t7nvAtcPAAA= --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 19:00:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA09951 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA09946 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03608; Thu, 16 Oct 97 21:59:25 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA12207; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: <19971016215511.11868@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:55:11 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: <199710170021.WAA12070@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710170021.WAA12070@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br>; from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis on Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 10:21:47PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: |#define quoting(Alex Nash) |// 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults/Fxtv" | |/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults ??? | |Is this right ? fxtv is doing this. In the pre-port days, I had it internally augment XFILESEARCHPATH with /%T/%N%S for testing. Can be useful as a fall-back when a port isn't installed yet (i.e. no global app rsrc file). Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 19:06:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10265 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:06:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10260 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03168; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710170206.TAA03168@rah.star-gate.com> To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:21:47 -0200." <199710170021.WAA12070@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:06:04 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The standard place is : /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Joao Carlos Mendes Luis : > #define quoting(Alex Nash) > // 17533 fxtv NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults/Fxtv" > > /usr/X11R6/bin/app-defaults ??? > > Is this right ? > > Jonny > > -- > Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br > +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br > Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI > PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 22:13:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA20219 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA20208; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pasqual@hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.148]) by madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl2/HALmailhost/97020422) with ESMTP id OAA29669; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:13:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.2W5/HAL) with ESMTP id OAA25225; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:12:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199710170512.OAA25225@hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Ajith Pasqual Subject: Hardware - Real Time Stereo Video Capture and Processing X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-fingerprint: 5A A1 E6 D0 FF 96 FB F8 DE 23 EF 06 A1 76 94 E9 X-PGP-Public-Key-Location: finger -l pasqual@hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp or Home Page X-URL: http://www.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~pasqual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:12:56 +0900 From: Ajith Pasqual Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [I'm cross posting this to -multimedia as this refers to Video Capture also] Hello!! First some background info : We're doing Vision Related research using a Binocular Stereo Camera called "BiSight" (http://www.HelpMateRobotics.com/RC_components/RC_frameset.htm). We're planning to assemble a machine (PC) for the purpose of building an active vision system that uses : 1. BiSight Binocular Camera 2. Stereo Video Capture Card - FreeBSD Driver available!!!! (http://www.iijnet.or.jp/argocraft/vcb/capture-e.html) - No detailed information in English. 3. Ofcourse, FreeBSD as the OS. BiSight Controller is a Delta-Tau PMAC (4/8 Axis Programmable Multi-Axis Controller) (http://www.deltatau.com/pmacspec.htm) Since we're aiming at real time Image Processing, we've decided to go for a Pentium II based PC. Infact it is quite difficult to do this for 30 frames/s without the support of hardware image processor. But we would like to go for the maximum frame rate that is possible without this special hardware support. (say at least 10 or 15 frames/s) I would greatly appreciate any recommedations/suggestions/advice on getting the necessary hardware for this purpose. 1. Pentium II (Single or Dual CPU) 2. Motherboard (BIOS ..) 3. Chip Set (440LX ?) - Limitations on PCI Bandwidth 4. Memory (EDO or SDRAM) 5. Any other relevant piece of h/w In particular I would like to know what pitfalls, if any, I should be looking at. Thanks a lot in advance. Regards, Ajith Pasqual. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 16 23:54:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA25329 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA25323; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00516; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710170653.XAA00516@rah.star-gate.com> To: Ajith Pasqual cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware - Real Time Stereo Video Capture and Processing In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:12:56 +0900." <199710170512.OAA25225@hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:53:55 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, You can do dual video capture 640x480 30fps with Bt848 cards and I have done it over here. For info on the Bt848 driver project please see : http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Ajith Pasqual : > > [I'm cross posting this to -multimedia as this refers to Video Capture also] > > Hello!! > > First some background info : > > We're doing Vision Related research using a Binocular Stereo Camera called > "BiSight" (http://www.HelpMateRobotics.com/RC_components/RC_frameset.htm). > > We're planning to assemble a machine (PC) for the purpose of building an > active vision system that uses : > > 1. BiSight Binocular Camera > 2. Stereo Video Capture Card - FreeBSD Driver available!!!! > (http://www.iijnet.or.jp/argocraft/vcb/capture-e.html) - No detailed > information in English. > 3. Ofcourse, FreeBSD as the OS. > > BiSight Controller is a Delta-Tau PMAC (4/8 Axis Programmable Multi-Axis > Controller) (http://www.deltatau.com/pmacspec.htm) > > Since we're aiming at real time Image Processing, we've decided to go for a > Pentium II based PC. Infact it is quite difficult to do this for 30 frames/s > without the support of hardware image processor. But we would like to go for > the maximum frame rate that is possible without this special hardware support . > (say at least 10 or 15 frames/s) > > I would greatly appreciate any recommedations/suggestions/advice on getting t he > necessary hardware for this purpose. > > 1. Pentium II (Single or Dual CPU) > 2. Motherboard (BIOS ..) > 3. Chip Set (440LX ?) - Limitations on PCI Bandwidth > 4. Memory (EDO or SDRAM) > 5. Any other relevant piece of h/w > > In particular I would like to know what pitfalls, if any, I should be lookin g > at. > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Regards, > Ajith Pasqual. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 17 01:31:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA29030 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from basil.cdt.luth.se (root@basil.cdt.luth.se [130.240.64.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA29019 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peppar@cdt.luth.se) Received: from salt.cdt.luth.se (root@salt.cdt.luth.se [130.240.194.242]) by basil.cdt.luth.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12247; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:29:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from salt (peppar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by salt.cdt.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA02834; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:31:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199710170831.KAA02834@salt.cdt.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Johan Larsson , FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: Re: multicast Interactive Radio - mIR In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:04:25 PDT." <199710162104.OAA02207@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:31:13 +0200 From: Peter Parnes Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Why don't you ask Peter since he is aware of FreeBSD 8) Well he did, but I don't use FreeBSD (never have :-). I'm just lurking on this list to see what is going on and get tips about cool programs that can be used on other platforms. /P Ps. I have a dual screen SunUltra170E at home next to my P200 that runs 95/NT4 and is mostly used by my wife and by me playing games :-) Ds. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 17 14:08:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA08077 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from naish.lutris.com (naish.lutris.com [207.201.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08072 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@naish.lutris.com) Received: (from john@localhost) by naish.lutris.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id VAA18930; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:06:04 GMT To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I set up SQUAKE??? From: john@lutris.com (John J. Marco) Organization: Lutris Technologies, Inc. Date: 17 Oct 1997 14:06:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of "Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:13:47 -0700" Message-ID: <85n2k89k1v.fsf@lutris.com> Lines: 61 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for your reply to my query about SQUAKE... I've managed to get xquake and xf86quake running on my system without sound, now. Xquake seems to not handle color palettes too well, though. It also appears that I can't have two X servers at on different virtual consoles, due to my keyboard and mouse getting hung.. That sounds like an XFree86 shortcoming, though... As for the sound driver, I could not get the the new guspnp sound driver or linux_ioctl code to build on my stock 2.2.2-RELEASE system. I'm wondering if there are some kernel patches I need, or maybe a newer kernel build tree... Amancio Hasty writes: > The best place to find out about such topics like quake, sound or video > for freebsd is to mail to : > multimedia@freebsd.org Ok. > > Excerpt from my announcement to the multimedia mailing list : > > Wed, 06 Aug 1997 22:23:36 -0700 > > You will the latest sound driver: > ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp.tar.gz [ snip New guspnp sound driver info...] I got this package and tried to build it on my 2.2.2-RELEASE kernel source tree and it didn't compile. Have you used this package with 2.2.2-RELEASE. If not, is there a newer kernel source base that works on a 2.2.2-RELEASE runtime system? > > For xquake you will need: > > 1. a few mods to the linux loadable module so just download it and > replace yours: > cd /sys/i386/ > tar -xzf linux_ioctl.tar.gz > cd /usr/src/lkm/linux > make > make install > modunload -i 0 (if you have the linux up and running) > linux > ftp://rah.star-gate.com/linux_ioctl.tar.gz I had build problems here, as well. Mostly VOP_{LOCK,UNLOCK}() macros that take more than just the single vnode ptr argument. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John J. Marco | Email: john-netalias@lutris.com Principal Engineer | Note: Replace "john-netalias" with "john" to reply. Lutris Technologies | Phone: (408) 471-9753 Fax: (408) 471-9754 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 17 15:39:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA13098 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from shell3.ba.best.com (root@shell3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13092 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schrade@best.com) Received: from localhost (schrade@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell3.ba.best.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25143; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Krebs To: "John J. Marco" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I set up SQUAKE??? In-Reply-To: <85n2k89k1v.fsf@lutris.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 17 Oct 1997, John J. Marco wrote: >Thanks for your reply to my query about SQUAKE... I've managed to >get xquake and xf86quake running on my system without sound, now. Xquake >seems to not handle color palettes too well, though. It also appears >that I can't have two X servers at on different virtual consoles, >due to my keyboard and mouse getting hung.. That sounds like an XFree86 >shortcoming, though... There is an xquake16 somewhere out there.. I found it once. It ran quake in a window on a 16 bit screen. >As for the sound driver, I could not get the the new guspnp sound driver >or linux_ioctl code to build on my stock 2.2.2-RELEASE system. I'm wondering >if there are some kernel patches I need, or maybe a newer kernel build >tree... I tried doing the linux_ioctl thing under FreeBSD 2.2-stable and it never did compile. I would really like to get the sound in quake working with my SB16 PnP card at work. I'd also to get it working with my SBAWE32 Non PnP at home, too. I hear that the new GLQuake for linux will be an X app again and not an SVGALib app. It will even utilize the mouse! Now I just need to find someone who has successfully gotten the 3DFX Linux GLIDE/Mesa 2.5 working under FreeBSD 2.2-stable and can let me know what they did to make it work. :) Sure would be nice to be able to play GLQuake under FreeBSD! P.S. Has anyone gotten xf86quake to run without crashing when you exit? If so, how? *********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke ************* * Ken * NineInchNailsFront242TangerineDreamTheBreedersTekno * * * Krebs * SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s * * *********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC ************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRC: Schrade E-Mail: schrade @ best . com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 17 18:31:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA20981 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA20974 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@mcs.com) From: nash@mcs.com Received: from mcs.com (localhost.zen.nash.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by zen.nash.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03669; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199710180131.UAA03669@zen.nash.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 17 19:27:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA23332 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA23325 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (nash@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA14725; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA00248; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:27:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash To: Randall Hopper cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, my apologies to the list. Apparently running out of space on /tmp while attempting to send a message from Netscape results in a blank message being sent out. Randall Hopper wrote: > ....and thanks for the info. If you apply the attached patch, I think > it'll get you over that snag. A piece of the video annotation code I > added for 0.45 mistakenly "assumed" that the vidmode extension was there > without checking "is it supported" variable first. The attached patch > remedies this oversight. It worked like a charm. Thanks for patching this so quickly! > |The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my > |SMC network card :). Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which > |would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into > |displaying anything from my VCR. I thought this might be a > > This I'm really not sure about. I'm assuming you set inputFormat as > desired. The did you select "Video" from the Input menu? Also try > selecting the Tuner input, put fxtv on your VCR's control channel > (2,3,4), and put the VCR's VCR/TV selection on VCR. See if either of > these gives you something better than static. No luck :( I've tried all combinations. Regardless of the antenna/cable setting, I get: - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to tuner. - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to video or S-VHS. I'm stumped. The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem: bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. I'm not adverse to debugging this at the driver level -- does anyone have suggestions for a good starting point? Alex From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 18 16:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09792 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09787 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00366; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19971018195652.18918@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:56:52 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Matrox Rainbow Runner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have any of you guys seen the Matrox Rainbow runner card? Its a daughter card (Retail $199) that sticks to the side of just about all the Matrox cards (e.g. Mystique, Mellinium, etc..) Anyway it adds video capture capabilities with hardware MJPEG support to the card. With a full 704x480@30fps and maximum compression (~16:1) you get a very good quality video signal at well under 2mb/sec. The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run windows :) Has anyone else looked at this card? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 18 23:44:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA24927 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA24918 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.7/8.7.3) id JAA06224; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:43:53 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:43:53 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199710190643.JAA06224@silver.sms.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Petri Helenius To: Charles Henrich Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Matrox Rainbow Runner In-Reply-To: <19971018195652.18918@crh.cl.msu.edu> References: <19971018195652.18918@crh.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p7 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charles Henrich writes: > Have any of you guys seen the Matrox Rainbow runner card? Its a daughter card > (Retail $199) that sticks to the side of just about all the Matrox cards (e.g. > Mystique, Mellinium, etc..) Anyway it adds video capture capabilities with > hardware MJPEG support to the card. With a full 704x480@30fps and maximum > compression (~16:1) you get a very good quality video signal at well under > 2mb/sec. I use this card to produce MPEG's. That is, I take the video into MJPEG (with one of the higher rate settings, from 7 to 20 megabits/sec) and compress it with an MPEG encoder to 600 to 2500 kilobits/sec. Note that MJPEG is an editable format and not really targeted for network nor distribution format. > > The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run > windows :) Has anyone else looked at this card? > The only real problem here is that the windows drivers leak memory like hell. Doing a 15 minute capture renders my 64 meg machine out of memory. So if anyone would be doing a capture utility for FreeBSD I'll definetly switch over. The card also does MPEG-1 and MJPEG hardware decode. Pete