From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 07:55:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA09492 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 07:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA09487 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 07:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl) Received: from oasis.IAEhv.nl (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 5129 on Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:55:25 GMT; id OAA05129 efrom: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl; eto: UNKNOWN Received: from LOCAL (volf@localhost) by oasis.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/1.63); pid 340 on Sun, 19 Oct 1997 14:51:19 GMT; id OAA00340 efrom: volf; eto: UNKNOWN From: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf) Message-Id: <199710191451.OAA00340@oasis.IAEhv.nl> Subject: Need help setting AWE64 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:51:19 +0200 (MEST) Cc: luigi@iet.unipi.it X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Yesterday I bought myself a SoundBlaster AWE 64. Unfortunately, I can't get it to work under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE (it does however work under M$ windows 3.1). I installed Luigi's pnp and snd driver (pnp970924.tgz & snd971007.tgz) and recompiled the kernel. The kernel config file contains the following configuration lines: controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa ? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr When I boot using this new kernel I get the following boot messages: .... Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x056d76bc This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled .... pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 mem 0x0 flags 0x15 en 1 confl 0 mss_detect error, busy still set (0xff) sb_reset_dsp 0x220 failed pcm0 not found at 0x220 .... What is wrong here? Should I configure something using the -c boot option? My BIOS is not PnP aware, but I think that should not matter (it does not matter for Windows 3.1). pnpinfo shows the following information: Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x056d76bc PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative SB AWE64 PnP *** Small Vendor Tag Detected Logical Device ID: CTL0045 0x45008c0e #0 Device Description: Audio TAG Start DF Good Configuration IRQ: 5 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 1 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Sub-optimal Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: CTL7002 0x02708c0e #1 Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041) Device Description: Game TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x208, alignment 0x8, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: CTL0022 0x22008c0e #2 Device Description: WaveTable TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF *** Small Vendor Tag Detected End Tag Successfully got 69 resources, 3 logical fdevs -- card select # 0x0001 CSN CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x056d76bc Logical device #0 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 Logical device #1 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 Logical device #2 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 What should I do to get my card working properly? Thanks for your time, Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Volf - Internet Access Eindhoven - Digitale Stad Eindhoven ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- || volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl - use for personal mail || || volf@IAEhv.nl - use for Internet Access Eindhoven related mail || || volf@dse.dse.nl - use for Digital City of Eindhoven related mail || ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- IAE Public Access Unix System - Dial +31.40.2439436 and login as new. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 09:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15439 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA15428 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04470; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19971019120045.04903@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:00:45 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: Petri Helenius Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Matrox Rainbow Runner References: <19971018195652.18918@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199710190643.JAA06224@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199710190643.JAA06224@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 09:43:53AM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the subject of Matrox Rainbow Runner, Petri Helenius stated: > I use this card to produce MPEG's. That is, I take the video into > MJPEG (with one of the higher rate settings, from 7 to 20 > megabits/sec) and compress it with an MPEG encoder to 600 to 2500 > kilobits/sec. Note that MJPEG is an editable format and not really > targeted for network nor distribution format. What do you use for to convert to MPEG? The software that comes with the card is horrendously slow! > > The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run > > windows :) Has anyone else looked at this card? > > > The only real problem here is that the windows drivers leak memory > like hell. Doing a 15 minute capture renders my 64 meg machine out of > memory. Hum. I used the 1.52 driver to capture about an hour of video last night with no problems. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 09:32:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16862 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA16857 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA06864; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:31:59 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:31:59 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199710191631.TAA06864@silver.sms.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Petri Helenius To: Charles Henrich Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Matrox Rainbow Runner In-Reply-To: <19971019120045.04903@crh.cl.msu.edu> References: <19971018195652.18918@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199710190643.JAA06224@silver.sms.fi> <19971019120045.04903@crh.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p7 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charles Henrich writes: > On the subject of Matrox Rainbow Runner, Petri Helenius stated: > > > I use this card to produce MPEG's. That is, I take the video into > > MJPEG (with one of the higher rate settings, from 7 to 20 > > megabits/sec) and compress it with an MPEG encoder to 600 to 2500 > > kilobits/sec. Note that MJPEG is an editable format and not really > > targeted for network nor distribution format. > > What do you use for to convert to MPEG? The software that comes with the card > is horrendously slow! > Xing MPEG encoder 2.0. You get free 30 days from www.xingtech.com or $89 for a license. It does about 8 minutes an hour on my 200 MMX so it's definetly faster than the crappy Ulead one. (and does better quality) > > > The only downside as far as I can see for this card is, it requires I run > > > windows :) Has anyone else looked at this card? > > > > > The only real problem here is that the windows drivers leak memory > > like hell. Doing a 15 minute capture renders my 64 meg machine out of > > memory. > > Hum. I used the 1.52 driver to capture about an hour of video last night with > no problems. > You can do that, the problem is when you try to do something else after doing that or specifically after playing back that video. 1.52 (and 1.5) are little less worse in this sense than 1.1 but there is no cure yet. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 09:39:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA17670 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA17665 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA17107; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:23:07 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710191523.QAA17107@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64 To: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:23:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, luigi@iet.unipi.it In-Reply-To: <199710191451.OAA00340@oasis.IAEhv.nl> from "Frank Volf" at Oct 19, 97 04:51:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yesterday I bought myself a SoundBlaster AWE 64. Unfortunately, I can't get > it to work under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE (it does however work under M$ > windows 3.1). > > I installed Luigi's pnp and snd driver (pnp970924.tgz & snd971007.tgz) and > recompiled the kernel. The kernel config file contains the following > configuration lines: > controller pnp0 > device pcm0 at isa ? port 0x220 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 vector pcmintr > > When I boot using this new kernel I get the following boot messages: > > .... > Probing for PnP devices: > CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x056d76bc > This is a SB16 PnP, but LDN 0 is disabled your config is correct and as you see the diagnostic is very clear. Your bios is not pnp aware hence it does not assign resources to the card. win95 is pnp aware so this does not matter. freebsd can initialize the card for you provided you tell it in the follwing way. - pick some free io, irq and dma addresses (say port 0x220, irq5 drq 1 and 5 -- or the same as you use in win95 - boot -c - issue the command pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised cheers luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 12:30:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA27563 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27545 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl) Received: from oasis.IAEhv.nl (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 27669 on Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:29:45 GMT; id TAA27669 efrom: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl; eto: UNKNOWN Received: from LOCAL (volf@localhost) by oasis.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/1.63); pid 1599 on Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:19:46 GMT; id TAA01599 efrom: volf; eto: UNKNOWN From: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf) Message-Id: <199710191919.TAA01599@oasis.IAEhv.nl> Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64 In-Reply-To: <199710191523.QAA17107@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Oct 19, 97 04:23:07 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:19:45 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo wrote: > - issue the command > > pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 > > then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised Great that works! In fact, I have been playing with the card for some time now. I'm able to play audio files, mpeg's with sound and RealAudio 3.0 also works fine. Good job Luigi, thanks! Unfortunately, I ran into a small problem. Sometimes (I did not figure out yet what condition this triggers), I get the following message: oasis /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.16>1 open: device busy after this message. I can no longer play any sounds. The solution I have found so far is to reboot the system :-(. dmesg shows the following messages: dsp write channels 2 dsp write channels 2 START dma chan: play 5, rec 1 Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... dsp write channels 2 dsp write channels 2 dsp write channels 2 Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... Race! got wrint while reloading... 1 open: device busy Any clue? Regards, Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Volf - Internet Access Eindhoven - Digitale Stad Eindhoven ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- || volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl - use for personal mail || || volf@IAEhv.nl - use for Internet Access Eindhoven related mail || || volf@dse.dse.nl - use for Digital City of Eindhoven related mail || ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- IAE Public Access Unix System - Dial +31.40.2439436 and login as new. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 19 13:12:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA29792 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29783 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11735; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19971019131207.02866@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:12:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Frank Volf Cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64 References: <199710191523.QAA17107@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <199710191919.TAA01599@oasis.IAEhv.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199710191919.TAA01599@oasis.IAEhv.nl>; from Frank Volf on Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 09:19:45PM +0200 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Frank Volf scribbled this message on Oct 19: > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > - issue the command > > > > pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 > > > > then everything should work and your pcm1 will be recognised > > Great that works! In fact, I have been playing with the card for some time > now. I'm able to play audio files, mpeg's with sound and RealAudio 3.0 also > works fine. Good job Luigi, thanks! > > Unfortunately, I ran into a small problem. Sometimes (I did not figure out > yet what condition this triggers), I get the following message: > > oasis /kernel: SoundBlaster 16 4.16>1 open: device busy > > after this message. I can no longer play any sounds. The solution I have > found so far is to reboot the system :-(. dmesg shows the following > messages: what are the specs of your system? (make sure to include cpu and speed) I saw something like this on my 486dx2/66 w/ a cs4237 based card.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 04:03:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15312 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA15298 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA18368 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:46:20 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710200946.KAA18368@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: snd971020.tgz and pnp971020.tgz To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:46:20 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A new snap of my audio driver and pnp code are available at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd971020.tgz http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/pnp971020.tgz both are tested against 2.2.5 and 2.2.1. The PnP code is substantially unchanged since the previous snapshot, only minor changes have been done to the README file. The sound code has some minor fixes for the following bugs in 971007: + snd_sync() did not properly shut down the device; + because of some typos, the code would not compile on 3.0 + 3.0 users had problems in the attach of SB16 devices; also the README files and patches have been cleaned up. Feedback as usual is welcome, please include in plain ascii the relevant info, e.g. your config file, dmesg output, pnpinfo output and a description of the problem Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 04:18:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15888 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15877 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous235.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.235]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.6/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06906 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 13:14:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA00339; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:41:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19971020114122.61246@panke.de> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:41:22 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: [murali@vsofti.stph.net: Videoconf. solution req.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----Forwarded message from "K. Murali Krishna Reddy" ----- From: "K. Murali Krishna Reddy" To: "'wosch@apfel.de'" Subject: Videoconf. solution req. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:38:29 +0530 Dear Mr. Wosch, Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD. It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K. Do you know of any drivers for Video blaster SE100 on BSD. Any information on these issues is most welcome Thanks in advance Murali ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Murali Krishna Reddy murali@vsofti.stph.net Manager-Operations murali_k@hotmail.com VisualSoft India Limited. www.visualsoft-india.com Http://relay.vsofti.stph.net/murali ------------------------------------------------------------------ -----End of forwarded message----- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 11:26:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA11112 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA11104 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl) Received: from oasis.IAEhv.nl (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 7008 on Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:21:58 GMT; id RAA07008 efrom: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl; eto: UNKNOWN Received: from LOCAL (volf@localhost) by oasis.IAEhv.nl (8.8.5/1.63); pid 1435 on Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:07:59 GMT; id RAA01435 efrom: volf; eto: UNKNOWN From: volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl (Frank Volf) Message-Id: <199710201707.RAA01435@oasis.IAEhv.nl> Subject: Re: Need help setting AWE64 In-Reply-To: <19971019131207.02866@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> from John-Mark Gurney at "Oct 19, 97 01:12:07 pm" To: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:07:56 +0200 (MEST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John-Mark Gurney wrote: > what are the specs of your system? (make sure to include cpu and speed) > I saw something like this on my 486dx2/66 w/ a cs4237 based card.. Pentium 90 - 16 Mbyte RAM - SoundBlaster AWE 64 PnP FreeBSD 2.2.2 kernel with snd971007 and pnp970924 added. Regards, Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Volf - Internet Access Eindhoven - Digitale Stad Eindhoven ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- || volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl - use for personal mail || || volf@IAEhv.nl - use for Internet Access Eindhoven related mail || || volf@dse.dse.nl - use for Digital City of Eindhoven related mail || ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- IAE Public Access Unix System - Dial +31.40.2439436 and login as new. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 14:16:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20470 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20464 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02898; Mon, 20 Oct 97 17:13:40 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA22956; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:09:22 -0400 Message-Id: <19971020170921.04433@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:09:21 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? References: <19971016194418.46875@ct.picker.com> <199710170426.FAA13110@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199710170426.FAA13110@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 05:26:21AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |> However, if across the group we're lacking T T or E for a rewrite, unless |> you know of some prohibitive bugs in the existing synth code, it might be a |> good idea to lean toward working it so that the synth system's existing |> external APIs can be "plugged in" so-to-speak across a DMZ (your clean code | |the external API is the last think I want to change -- as in the case |of the sound driver, i implemented most of the voxware interface first, |and then tried to define a new one to cover the missing |functionlaities. But the problem I think is that even pluggin in a |module without understanding what it does it's a hard task. Plus... Sorry, I shouldn't have used the word "external". What I meant was the APIs between the sound driver "shell" and each of the individual sequencer drivers (like probe, attach, ioctl, etc.). I was thinking of these sequencer APIs as external to a particular sequencer driver (in terms of plugging into the sound driver shell), but of course they're still internal to the sound driver as a whole. Sorry about that. |... the real thing I am missing is not how to code the driver, for that |I can borrow from the existing one. The real problem is what the synth |is expecting to receive in terms of communication with the system. I |guess it needs, for each note, a set of parameters identifying the note |to play, and perhaps some timing reference to relate it to other notes. |Also what kind of feedback is the driver supposed to give back to the |application --- things like "i am about to finish with this note please |send me more..." etc. Once I understand this, i guess i can be really |productive. And for that it is more important to have a high level |understanding of what the synth should do, rather than low level driver |programming. It is the former experience i am severely lacking an |looking for help. if you know about that, or know somebody who can |help, please let me know. | |>From these discussions I am slowly figuring out what should the |interface be, but more is needed... I've not done any sequencer programming myself, but the two references I'm aware of are are: 1) Chapter 4 (pp 32-44) from Hannu's snd-sdk-doc-0.1.ps, and 2) http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/midi.html at 4-Front. The latter is a pretty anemic write-up. The former is much more interesting. Let me know if you don't have a copy of this snd-sdk-doc-0.1.ps file and I'll be glad to get one in the mail to you. Thanks, Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 14:31:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA21414 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA21394 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03346; Mon, 20 Oct 97 17:30:28 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA22985; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:26:10 -0400 Message-Id: <19971020172610.26394@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:26:10 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Alex Nash Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex Nash on Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 09:27:41PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alex Nash: |It worked like a charm. Thanks for patching this so quickly! No problem. Glad that did the trick. |> |The card appears to work properly under Windows (after I yanked out my |> |SMC network card :). Also, I briefly had a version of fxtv 0.44 which |> |would start up and display static, but could not be coaxed into |> |displaying anything from my VCR. I thought this might be a |> |> This I'm really not sure about. I'm assuming you set inputFormat as |> desired. The did you select "Video" from the Input menu? Also try |> selecting the Tuner input, put fxtv on your VCR's control channel |> (2,3,4), and put the VCR's VCR/TV selection on VCR. See if either of |> these gives you something better than static. | |No luck :( I've tried all combinations. Regardless of the |antenna/cable setting, I get: | | - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to | tuner. | | - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to | video or S-VHS. | |I'm stumped. The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem: | | bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12 | Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. | |I'm not adverse to debugging this at the driver level -- does anyone |have suggestions for a good starting point? Ok, well I'm getting close to the limit of things I can think of to try. Here are some thoughts: - Bring up the Input->Appearance dialog and crank up brightness and contrast - Play with selecting different input formats from the Format menu - Run fxtv with the -colorbars option. Don't know for sure about PAL tuners, but in NTSC-land you should see solid vertical colorbars with very pure colors in this order from left-to-right: White Yellow Cyan Green Magenta Red Blue Black If this doesn't reveal any clues, I think you might want to dial up Steve or Amancio for some driver debugging tips. BTW, you might drop the output of "xdpyinfo" on your box into your reply. I'm curious as to what your visuals look like. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 14:58:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA22815 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22796 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 14:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04178; Mon, 20 Oct 97 17:57:45 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA23235; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <19971020175327.20324@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:53:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Joachim Wunder Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel References: <9710191802.AA26647@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <9710191802.AA26647@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de>; from Joachim Wunder on Sun, Oct 19, 1997 at 08:02:04PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joachim Wunder: |I just installed Fxtv Version 0.45 and the newest available driver for my |Win/TVpci under FreeBSD 2.2.1. | |All seems to work very fine, except that I cannot tune in any channel. |Fxtv reports the following on start-up: | | Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel | |I only can see "snow" on the video-screen. :( | |I am using a Trio V64+ and 16bpp and the card is working great under Win95. Sorry about that -- my fault. Joao and Alex also hit this last week. There are a few ways to fix your problem. The easiest is to change the "TVSetChannel"s in app_rsrc.h to "TVSetStation", rm tv.o, and rebuild fxtv. The reason these (albeit incorrect) internal defaults are coming into play is that Fxtv can't find its global resource file. You can set XFILESEARCHPATH (see below) so that it can. This, also, will also get rid of the TVSetChannel errors. I'll clean this up for the next version. Randall Randall Hopper: |Alex Nash: | | Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel | |This one's my bust. TVSetChannel is history. It's TVSetStation now. I |changed this in the global Fxtv resource file, but I missed it in the |internal fall-back. If fxtv can't find the global resource file |(via XFILESEARCHPATH), it falls back on internal defaults in the code, |which are in error. | |To fix, either: | | setenv XFILESEARCHPATH /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/%T/%N%S | |or something similar; or replace the "TVSetChannel" refs in app_rsrc.h with |"TVSetStation", remove tv.o, and relink fxtv. Or do both. ... From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 16:04:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA26781 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26775 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@mcs.com) Received: from mcs.com (localhost.zen.nash.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by zen.nash.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26960; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <344BE345.D72899BC@mcs.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:03:33 +0000 From: Alex Nash X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rhh@ct.picker.com CC: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ok, well I'm getting close to the limit of things I can think of to try. > Here are some thoughts: > - Bring up the Input->Appearance dialog and crank up brightness and > contrast > > - Play with selecting different input formats from the Format menu No luck with either of these. > - Run fxtv with the -colorbars option. Don't know for sure about > PAL tuners, but in NTSC-land you should see solid vertical > colorbars with very pure colors in this order from left-to-right: > > White Yellow Cyan Green Magenta Red Blue Black No luck here either -- I get nothing but black when using -colorbars. > If this doesn't reveal any clues, I think you might want to dial up Steve > or Amancio for some driver debugging tips. My latest thinking on all this is that the card I have is incompatible with the driver because it has FM radio support (is anyone running a card with radio support under FreeBSD?). Probably there's a command to select TV or radio, and hopefully that is all that's missing. Perhaps Amancio or Steve could answer this question: Has all the documentation for the bt848 driver come from Brooktree, or has Hauppauge been forthcoming with details about their board? (Assuming that this is a Hauppauge specific problem.) > BTW, you might drop the output of "xdpyinfo" on your box into your reply. > I'm curious as to what your visuals look like. You bet, I'll attach it to the end of this message. Thanks again for your help. Alex name of display: :0.0 version number: 11.0 vendor string: Xi Graphics vendor release number: 3100 maximum request size: 4194300 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32 image byte order: LSBFirst number of supported pixmap formats: 7 supported pixmap formats: depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 167 focus: window 0x480000e, revert to PointerRoot number of extensions: 15 BIG-REQUESTS DOUBLE-BUFFER MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RECORD SHAPE SYNC X3D-PEX XC-MISC XIE XIdle XTEST XTestExtension1 XsightExtension default screen number: 0 number of screens: 1 screen #0: dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (324x235 millimeters) resolution: 125x130 dots per inch depths (3): 1, 8, 24 root window id: 0x25 depth of root window: 8 planes number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 2 default colormap: 0x23 default number of colormap cells: 256 preallocated pixels: black 0, white 1 options: backing-store NO, save-unders NO largest cursor: 64x64 current input event mask: 0x70003c ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask PropertyChangeMask number of visuals: 3 default visual id: 0x20 visual: visual id: 0x20 class: PseudoColor depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x21 class: GrayScale depth: 8 planes available colormap entries: 256 red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 significant bits in color specification: 8 bits visual: visual id: 0x22 class: TrueColor depth: 24 planes available colormap entries: 256 per subfield red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff significant bits in color specification: 8 bits From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 16:38:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28846 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:38:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28841 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murduth@ludd.luth.se) Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (murduth@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21131 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:37:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (murduth@localhost) by sister.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA17952 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:37:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:37:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joakim Henriksson To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AOpen AW35 (CS4237) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering how to get one of these beasts to work in 2.2-STABLE, not using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need) to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to work with Luigi's driver. regards/ Joakim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 17:04:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA00705 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00696 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06646; Mon, 20 Oct 97 20:03:24 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA23982; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:59:06 -0400 Message-Id: <19971020195905.27449@ct.picker.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:59:05 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Alex Nash Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: <344BE345.D72899BC@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <344BE345.D72899BC@mcs.com>; from Alex Nash on Mon, Oct 20, 1997 at 11:03:33PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alex Nash: |supported pixmap formats: | depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 | depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 | depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 | depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 | depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 | depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 | depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 Hmm..interesting. Support for bunches of Pixmap depths simultaneously. Just for kicks, what's the output of "fxtv -debug startup" look like (just the part before it starts talking about FONT stuff)? You should see fxtv chosing your 24-bpp visual to work in. Pretty sure it will; just want to sanity check this. BTW, you're frame buffer is running in 24-bpp, right? I'm slightly puzzled by the fact that the "default visual id" is your 8-bpp PseudoColor visual. OR, if you in fact "are" running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, and the Xaccel server doesn't handle 24-bit ximages in 8-bpp mode, this just might explain the black screen you're seeing :-) If you are running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, just for kicks, change this line in tvscreen.c: case PseudoColor : rank = 2; break; to this: case PseudoColor : rank = 1000; break; Which should force use of the PseudoColor visual. See if that makes any difference :-) Randall | number of visuals: 3 | default visual id: 0x20 | visual: | visual id: 0x20 | class: PseudoColor | depth: 8 planes | available colormap entries: 256 | red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 | significant bits in color specification: 8 bits | visual: | visual id: 0x21 | class: GrayScale | depth: 8 planes | available colormap entries: 256 | red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 | significant bits in color specification: 8 bits | visual: | visual id: 0x22 | class: TrueColor | depth: 24 planes | available colormap entries: 256 per subfield | red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff | significant bits in color specification: 8 bits From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 19:51:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA11551 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA11536 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07392; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710210251.TAA07392@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Alex Nash , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:59:05 EDT." <19971020195905.27449@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:51:01 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone else having problems with Xi graphics's servers? As for debugging the driver: #if defined( STATUS_SUM ) /* add any new device status or INTerrupt status bits */ status_sum |= (bktr_status & ~(BT848_INT_RSV0|BT848_INT_RSV1)); status_sum |= ((dstatus & (BT848_DSTATUS_COF|BT848_DSTATUS_LOF)) << 6); #endif /* STATUS_SUM */ /* printf( " STATUS %x %x %x \n", dstatus, bktr_status, bt848->risc_count ); */ /* if risc was disabled re-start process again */ if ( !(bktr_status & BT848_INT_RISC_EN) || Just uncomment the above printf , compile , install the new kernel. After rebooting , run fxtv and send me the output of the last 200 or messages . Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 20:34:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14096 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA14086 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id DAA20045; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:18:35 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710210218.DAA20045@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: AOpen AW35 (CS4237) To: murduth@ludd.luth.se (Joakim Henriksson) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:18:34 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Joakim Henriksson" at Oct 21, 97 01:37:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering how to get one of these beasts to work in 2.2-STABLE, not > using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need) > to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to > work with Luigi's driver. the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing support for it ? Thanks Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 20 23:45:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA23684 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA23671 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murduth@ludd.luth.se) Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (murduth@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00512; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:44:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (murduth@localhost) by sister.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA21641; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:44:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:44:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joakim Henriksson To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AOpen AW35 (CS4237) In-Reply-To: <199710210218.DAA20045@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > using Luigi's sound driver since i also have a PAS card that i want (need) > > to use. Or how hard it would be to get the PAS (with sb part running) to > > work with Luigi's driver. > > the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it > by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing > support for it ? The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver... Don't have the slightest idea how to. I would guess there are some defferencies between your driver and the voxware one, how hard would it be to port the voxware one, any guidelines etc? regards/ Joakim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 01:12:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA28515 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA28503 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA20492; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:56:33 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710210656.HAA20492@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: AOpen AW35 (CS4237) To: murduth@ludd.luth.se (Joakim Henriksson) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:56:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Joakim Henriksson" at Oct 21, 97 08:44:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > the best option would be to support the PAS on my driver. Does it > > by chance emulate the SB or something, or can you help in writing > > support for it ? > > The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but > uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound > channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb > part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and > can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver... What is the point of using multiple cards to play sounds together, rather than mixing them in software and playing the resulting stream on one _good_ sound card ? > Don't have the slightest idea how to. I would guess there are some > defferencies between your driver and the voxware one, how hard would it be > to port the voxware one, any guidelines etc? I have to say that the ossfreee 3.8 code (the linux version, which is available in source format) is much more readable than previous ones (or perhaps I have more experience...) so you could start from the documentation in the doc/ directory in my driver, and then try to look at the ossfree code for the PAS. But I don't think I will ever support the PAS in such a way that two independent, simultaneous channels are available. Does Voxware support this ? Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 01:40:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA29910 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA29900 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murduth@ludd.luth.se) Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (murduth@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02984; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:20:33 +0100 Received: from localhost (murduth@localhost) by sister.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA22535; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:20:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:20:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joakim Henriksson To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AOpen AW35 (CS4237) In-Reply-To: <199710210656.HAA20492@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The PAS is one of the funnier cards since it does do SB emulation, but > > uses an actual Creatice chip to achieve it. This gives the PAS two sound > > channels out (PAS 16bit stereo, sb 8bit mono). I would think that the sb > > part could be accessed by your drivers. But then i lose the PAS part and > > can _still_ only play two sounds at a time :) As to me writing a driver... > > What is the point of using multiple cards to play sounds together, > rather than mixing them in software and playing the resulting stream on > one _good_ sound card ? CPU? I did try software mixing once, but to make a good mixing device? I just dont have the math for it. > But I don't think I will ever support the PAS in such a way that > two independent, simultaneous channels are available. Does Voxware > support this ? I'm not sure i'm following you on this but if you are asking if i can play two sounds simmultaneous, then yes i can. The PAS card is really two cards in one. regards/ Joakim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 02:27:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA03100 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:27:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from login.dknet.dk (fj@login.dknet.dk [193.88.44.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA03094 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fj@login.dknet.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by login.dknet.dk (8.7.5/8.6) id LAA29968; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199710210926.LAA29968@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 To: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 11:26:47 MET DST Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: ; from "Alex Nash" at Oct 17, 97 9:27 pm Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The problems described herein is very similar to the ones I have, thus I thought I'd share my experiences. > No luck :( I've tried all combinations. Regardless of the > antenna/cable setting, I get: > > - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to > tuner. Same here (when tuner is set to Temic). > - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to > video or S-VHS. My video-in works fine (My old Philips TVtuner from my Amiga days is curently feeding it). I haven't tried S-VHS, as I've got nowhere to get the signal from. > I'm stumped. The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem: > > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12 > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL, Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner. You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below. (I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner). The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the F[IR]1216 tuners. Does anyone have the datasheet for the FM1216. I have tried calling the Danish Philips branch and I've tried asking at www.philips.com. Both times I've been directed to a Danish distributor (Rosenmeier Data A/S), who hasn't got a clue. I've also tried contacting techsupport@hauppauge.com - NO answer. If anyone can help me get a copy of the datasheet, I'd be happy to update the driver. Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the Hauppauge cards with radio. Have a nice day Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 35 43 33 49 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 02:57:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA04356 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA04341 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01394; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:54:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:54:52 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Luigi Rizzo cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-Reply-To: <199710151622.RAA09493@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > you should really look at the audio driver I wrote and its > documentation, which should really be helpful. In a few days I will > also provide a manual for the API I am developing in parallel with > the old voxware one; as you will see there is much more support > for synchronization, which is what you need for your type of apps. I'll be getting a copy of this later today, looking forwards to seeing some documentation further than the voxware 2.4 stuff I've got. > Plus, my driver supports multiple cards of the same type (if they > are distinguishable; there are some unnamed PnP cards which have > the same vendor id and serial number thus being undistinguishable > at the PnP level...). I should probably buy a motherboard that actually gives the correct voltages for the 166MMX I impulse-bought. I'll be wanting to do this eventually though so it's nice to see that this is looking possible. Anyway, thanks for the information, I'll try out some of the newer versions of both guspnp (although I don't have actually have a GUS) and your driver (not necessarily in that order!). Also apologies for the late reply. I've not had time to check my mail much lately. Many Thanks, Steve Roome Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 03:48:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA06771 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA06751 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Resent-From: rhh@ct.picker.com Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 6:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17366; Tue, 21 Oct 97 06:47:38 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA24569; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:43:20 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <199710211043.GAA24569@elmer.ct.picker.com> Message-Id: <19971021064108.39622@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:41:09 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Cc: multimedia@freebsed.org Subject: Re: Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel References: <9710191802.AA26647@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de> <19971020175327.20324@ct.picker.com> <344bfba8.81139@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <344bfba8.81139@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de>; from Joachim Wunder on Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 12:51:08AM +0000 Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:43:20 -0400 Resent-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joachim Wunder: |> | Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel |> | |>The reason these (albeit incorrect) internal defaults are coming into play |>is that Fxtv can't find its global resource file. You can set |>XFILESEARCHPATH (see below) so that it can. This, also, will also get rid |>of the TVSetChannel errors. | |I tried this, too, but perceived the same phenomenon as described above. Huh! Sounds like you have old settings from a previous version of Fxtv lying around somewheres, or this version of Fxtv wasn't installed correctly. First, verify that /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fxtv and $XAPPLRESDIR/Fxtv (if XAPPLRESDIR is set) don't have TVSetChannel references. Then look in your ~/.Xdefaults and ~/.Xresources for "Fxtv" settings containing "TVSetChannel". And finally, make sure any Fxtv files (if present) in any of your XUSERFILESEARCHPATH directories (if XUSERFILESEARCHPATH is set) don't have "TVSetChannel" in them. Change any found references to TVSetStation. Finally once you think you've got them all, run: appres Fxtv | grep TVSetChannel and strings /usr/X11R6/bin/fxtv | grep TVSetChannel to be sure. These commands shouldn't print anything if you did. |By the way: I normally use "Europe Cable" and "PAL (BGH...)" under the |Win95 application. So do you think your fxtv is "incompatible" to the |format used in Germany!? Hmmm..... That I don't know. Really the bt848 driver is what determines whether that support is there for that formata. Fxtv is just passing through the user's request to set the format. Searching my mail archives, the only person I see posting about the Bt848 TV cards from Germany is Volker Freiburg . You might give him a mail and see if he can help you out. He added some channel definitions for PAL in Western Europe. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 07:51:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA16455 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:51:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (relay1.bcs.zp.ua [194.58.182.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16357 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua) Received: from bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (bcs3.bcs.zp.ua [194.58.182.73]) by relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05321 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:49:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from serg@localhost) by bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00918 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:49:09 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:49:09 +0300 (EEST) From: Sergey Shkonda Message-Id: <199710211449.RAA00918@bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: How to play M$ ADPCM .wav file ? Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- Sergey Shkonda (serg@bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 09:28:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA22242 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22237 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:28:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01623; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211627.JAA01623@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Stephen Roome cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:54:52 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:27:04 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The API / programming guide for the linux sound driver 3.5 is at: http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/index.html Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 09:35:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA22776 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22771 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01686 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211635.JAA01686@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/book.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:34:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver. I have no idea how good or bad the book is . Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:14:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA25789 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25783 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02064; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:14:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Joachim Wunder cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxtv troubles with Hauppauge Win/TVpci In-Reply-To: <9710192154.AA02085@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Joachim Wunder wrote: > I obeyed all instructions on http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv and installed all > the necessary kernel drivers for my Hauppauge Win/TVpci PAL card: > > bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 11 on pci0:13 > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. > > I further installed fxtv from from the ports collection on my 2.2.1 release. > After starting fxtv it shows up with > > Warning: Actions not found: TVSetChannel That's OK -- you're using an old or nonexistent Fxtv app-defaults file. Copy fxtv to your app-deafuls directory or append to ~/.Xdefaults. > So I only see some "snow" on txvf video screen and can change the channels, > but can't tune in any program. make sure the tuner is checked on the Input menu. Also check your cable connection and that the channels that are being tuned are actually on your system. The default channels are few and far between, and if you're on an antenna you may not be getting the right channels. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:17:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA25996 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from phoenix.its.rpi.edu (phoenix.its.rpi.edu [128.113.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25977 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu) Received: from localhost (dec@localhost) by phoenix.its.rpi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01099; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:18:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "David E. Cross" To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/book.html In-Reply-To: <199710211635.JAA01686@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver. > > I have no idea how good or bad the book is . > It is good for the OSS/FreeBSD sound driver, I have used it to write a simple/sample memmap()ed sound player. -- David Cross ACS Consultant From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:17:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26017 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26011 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01950; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211717.KAA01950@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Flemming Jacobsen cc: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash), rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:26:47 +0700." <199710210926.LAA29968@login.dknet.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:15 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html Has anyone played with the dos toolkit from the Hackers tool chest ? Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:19:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26193 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:19:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26188 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) From: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Received: (from lamaster@localhost) by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA14453 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211717.KAA14453@george.arc.nasa.gov> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 and/or Bt848 driver Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I had a little time to experiment with the Bt848 driver/fxtv this weekend/yesterday, so, since I understand that fxtv-0.45 and the updated Bt848 driver are in the 2.2.x and 3.0-current source trees, I upgraded to the latest (late Saturday) 2.2 RELENG, soon to be 2.2.5. I wanted to test the soon-to-be-2.2.5 release wrt the Bt848. It appeared to have updated fxtv and bt848 drivers. I did a "make world" overnight, it worked, and fxtv and video in worked. A few complications. [Of course, I ran into the same "TVSetChannel" problem, but, that was easily fixed by the advice on "freebsd-multimedia".] Somewhere in all the upgrades, [I freely admit that during upgrades operator error is a possibility}, I have experienced two new problems. First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic. Was a change to vic required to support the modified driver? It was working Saturday (I checked), before the cvsup and "make world". Are there any modifications to the vic source needed to go with the latest driver? As I said, this was working before the upgrade, and I did not upgrade vic, so the change would have had to have been in cvsup'ed system source or in one of the /usr/ports dependent libraries, some of which may have been updated since vic was last built. Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me - do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space. Was there an announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels? Is there another way to do this now - I saw no menu. In any case, I assume that all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with the driver changes. The other, potentially serious, problem is that in (32-bit) Truecolor (using an ATI Graphics Xpression), a large horizontal band of what appears to be every-other line (e.g. even or odd?) is messed up. I don't have the exact dimensions, but, I would say that this band goes perhaps from lines ~120 to ~300 on the displayed video image. Now, I did see a similar effect before with 2.2.2-RELEASE and fxtv-0.43 or -0.44 (somewhere in the June-August timeframe), and, after recompiling and reinstalling everything in September, it mysteriously went away. But, now the problem is back. I tried cleaning, deleting, and reinstalling from port source, a few things, but, it made no difference. 8-bit color mode still works fine. I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away, and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run. I have not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs. But, if I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back. Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously, I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server. So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, if so, anything odd? It may have something to do with the relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver. -Hugh LaMaster Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:23:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26544 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26537 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02005; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211722.KAA02005@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "David E. Cross" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/book.html In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:18:00 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:22:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The same mmap example works on guspnp and it was the basis for providing sound support for Quake 8) Cheers, Amancio > On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > Thats a reference to a multimedia book for the linux sound driver. > > > > I have no idea how good or bad the book is . > > > > It is good for the OSS/FreeBSD sound driver, I have used it to write a > simple/sample memmap()ed sound player. > > -- > David Cross > ACS Consultant > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 10:27:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26839 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26829 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:27:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01840; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211659.JAA01840@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Flemming Jacobsen cc: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash), rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:26:47 +0700." <199710210926.LAA29968@login.dknet.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:59:55 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you want to search for Philips parts this is the web page to go: http://www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/search/ If the information is not there then someone is going to have to write or call philips to request the data sheet. Usually, Philips is very good about sending the data sheet or faixing back. Regards, Amancio > Hi, > > The problems described herein is very similar to the ones I > have, thus I thought I'd share my experiences. > > > No luck :( I've tried all combinations. Regardless of the > > antenna/cable setting, I get: > > > > - Blank video (all black) and static for audio when the input is set to > > tuner. > > Same here (when tuner is set to Temic). > > > - Blank video (all black) and no audio when the input is set to > > video or S-VHS. > > My video-in works fine (My old Philips TVtuner from my Amiga days > is curently feeding it). I haven't tried S-VHS, as I've got > nowhere to get the signal from. > > > I'm stumped. The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem: > > > > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12 > > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. > > Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL, > Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner. > You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be > carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below. > (I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel > config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner). > > The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner > module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the > F[IR]1216 tuners. > > Does anyone have the datasheet for the FM1216. I have tried calling > the Danish Philips branch and I've tried asking at www.philips.com. > Both times I've been directed to a Danish distributor (Rosenmeier > Data A/S), who hasn't got a clue. > I've also tried contacting techsupport@hauppauge.com - NO answer. > If anyone can help me get a copy of the datasheet, I'd be happy > to update the driver. > > Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the > Hauppauge cards with radio. > > > Have a nice day > Flemming > > -- > Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not > compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's > Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't > Phone: +45 35 43 33 49 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 14:33:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11112 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:33:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11103 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10480; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:33:03 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199710212133.TAA10480@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 and/or Bt848 driver In-Reply-To: <199710211717.KAA14453@george.arc.nasa.gov> from "lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov" at "Oct 21, 97 10:17:47 am" To: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:33:03 -0200 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Hugh, #define quoting(lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) // First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, // as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic. Was a change // to vic required to support the modified driver? It was working Are you using the latest version from rah.star-gate.com ? There was a change in the driver some time ago that required an update of vic. // Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat // different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me - // do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the No, it's the same interface, with the video format menu added. // channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up // and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space. Was there an // announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels? Is there // another way to do this now - I saw no menu. In any case, I assume that // all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with // the driver changes. The resource names have changed. A s/Channel/Station/g in your resource file may solve this. // I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away, // and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run. I have // not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there // is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs. But, if // I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back. It really needs the latest driver upgrades to run. This is ok. // Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included // Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously, // I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics // Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server. // // So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release // with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, // if so, anything odd? It may have something to do with the // relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early // September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver. I have experience using fxtv with two ATI cards. At home I have an ATI 3D Pro Turbo, 8M VRAM. It works wonderfully in True Color mode. At work I have an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo, 4M VRAM, and I cannot get fxtv to work in True Color mode. Neither DirectV mode, nor XImages mode work at all. It works in 15bpp mode, though, and I have not tried anything below this. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 17:22:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA20958 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20950 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@mcs.com) Received: from mcs.com (localhost.zen.nash.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by zen.nash.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08077; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <344D46E9.F1AD078D@mcs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:20:57 +0000 From: Alex Nash X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper CC: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: <344BE345.D72899BC@mcs.com> <19971020195905.27449@ct.picker.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8E73485617760B4D842AF854" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8E73485617760B4D842AF854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall Hopper wrote: > Alex Nash: > |supported pixmap formats: > | depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 > | depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32 > > Hmm..interesting. Support for bunches of Pixmap depths simultaneously. A feature new with AccelX 3.1 -- works great for programs like xdoom which only understand 8-bpp. > Just for kicks, what's the output of "fxtv -debug startup" look like (just > the part before it starts talking about FONT stuff)? You should see fxtv > chosing your 24-bpp visual to work in. Pretty sure it will; just want to > sanity check this. It sure did (see the attachment). > BTW, you're frame buffer is running in 24-bpp, right? I'm slightly puzzled > by the fact that the "default visual id" is your 8-bpp PseudoColor visual. Yes, 24-bpp. I'm as puzzled as you are about how it works, but I haven't seen a program yet which was thrown off by it. > OR, if you in fact "are" running your frame buffer in 8-bpp, and the Xaccel > server doesn't handle 24-bit ximages in 8-bpp mode, this just might explain > the black screen you're seeing :-) I can only wish :) But seriously, given the static for audio I'm getting, I think fxtv and AccelX are faultless. Alex --------------8E73485617760B4D842AF854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="fxtv.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="fxtv.out" Querying Supported Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Xlib: extension "XFree86-DGA" missing on display ":0.0". XF86DGAQueryVersion() failed Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 2 PseudoColor 8 1,1 00000000, 00000000, 00000000 -- No 1 GrayScale 8 1,1 00000000, 00000000, 00000000 -- No 4 TrueColor 24 1,1 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". XF86VidModeQueryVersion() failed STATION ANNOTATION FONT: Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1' Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font: '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1' Trying to load a '25' pixel size version Load failed: -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1 Falling back on '10x20' font. TUNER MODE ANNOTATION FONT: Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1' Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font: '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1' Trying to load a '20' pixel size version Load failed: -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1 Falling back on '10x20' font. INPUT DEVICE ANNOTATION FONT: Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1' Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font: '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1' Trying to load a '20' pixel size version Load failed: -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1 Falling back on '10x20' font. VOLUME ANNOTATION FONT: Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1' Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font: '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1' Trying to load a '20' pixel size version Load failed: -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1 Falling back on '10x20' font. MUTE ANNOTATION FONT: Validating font spec '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-*-*-0-0-*-*-*-0-iso8859-1' Found at least one registered font, and the first one is an XLFD font: '-adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1' Trying to load a '15' pixel size version Load failed: -adobe-utopia-bold-r-normal--0-0-100-100-p-0-iso8859-1 Falling back on '10x20' font. Direct Video not supported by visual...using XImages --------------8E73485617760B4D842AF854-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 17:52:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA23045 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA23040 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nash@mcs.com) Received: from mcs.com (localhost.zen.nash.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by zen.nash.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13411; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:50:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <344D4DEF.928A1C07@mcs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:50:55 +0000 From: Alex Nash X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Flemming Jacobsen CC: Alex Nash , rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 References: <199710210926.LAA29968@login.dknet.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Flemming Jacobsen wrote: > > I'm stumped. The kernel appears to identify the card without a problem: > > > > bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:12 > > Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner, dbx stereo. > > Are you sure that the tuner is a Temic? My Hauppauge card (PAL, > Text, Radio - probably a model 418) has a Philips tuner. > You have to take off the Hauppauge sticker to check - be > carefull that you don't remove the text on the stickers below. > (I'm at work now, but I remenber setting an option in the kernel > config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner). Doh! I have model 452, which is most definitely NTSC. I'll try some experiments with OVERRIDE_TUNER. Thanks for pointing that out. > The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner > module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the > F[IR]1216 tuners. Amancio came up with a nifty URL for the Philips semiconductor search engine. Alas, the documentation for the F[IRM]1216 tuners is off-line at the moment. > Currently my advise to the public is: Stay away from the > Hauppauge cards with radio. Agreed. Alex From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 19:28:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA27402 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27345 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03735; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220227.TAA03735@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 and/or Bt848 driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:17:47 PDT." <199710211717.KAA14453@george.arc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:27:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, My old vic-2.7 still works with the bt848 driver. Please make sure that you have : cd /dev ln -s meteor btkr ln -s meteor0 bktr0 If it still does not work please let me know. Also on http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html There is a version of grabber-meteor.cc for vic-2.8 which supports both the matrox and bt848 driver by basically locating /dev/bktr and /dev/meteor no other bt848 specific ioctl was added. Try 16bit color depth with fxtv and your X setup. Amancio > > Well, I had a little time to experiment with the Bt848 driver/fxtv > this weekend/yesterday, so, since I understand that fxtv-0.45 and > the updated Bt848 driver are in the 2.2.x and 3.0-current source trees, > I upgraded to the latest (late Saturday) 2.2 RELENG, soon to be 2.2.5. > I wanted to test the soon-to-be-2.2.5 release wrt the Bt848. > It appeared to have updated fxtv and bt848 drivers. I did a > "make world" overnight, it worked, and fxtv and video in worked. > > > A few complications. > > [Of course, I ran into the same "TVSetChannel" problem, but, > that was easily fixed by the advice on "freebsd-multimedia".] > > Somewhere in all the upgrades, [I freely admit that during upgrades > operator error is a possibility}, I have experienced two new problems. > > First, the vic 2.8 framegrabber no longer seems to detect the Bt848, > as it did before, so, I can't do video input to vic. Was a change > to vic required to support the modified driver? It was working > Saturday (I checked), before the cvsup and "make world". Are there > any modifications to the vic source needed to go with the latest > driver? As I said, this was working before the upgrade, and I did > not upgrade vic, so the change would have had to have been in > cvsup'ed system source or in one of the /usr/ports dependent libraries, > some of which may have been updated since vic was last built. > > Now, fxtv-0.45 works in 8-bit color mode (I was expecting a somewhat > different user interface from fxtv-0.44, but it looks the same to me - > do I have an X resources problem?), although, fxtv seems to ignore the > channel selection X resources that I had set before (but, you can go up > and down one-channel-at-a-time) in the channel space. Was there an > announcement of new X resources to set/handle the channels? Is there > another way to do this now - I saw no menu. In any case, I assume that > all this will sort itself out over time and has nothing to do with > the driver changes. > > The other, potentially serious, problem is that in (32-bit) > Truecolor (using an ATI Graphics Xpression), a large horizontal > band of what appears to be every-other line (e.g. even or odd?) > is messed up. I don't have the exact dimensions, but, I would > say that this band goes perhaps from lines ~120 to ~300 on the > displayed video image. Now, I did see a similar effect before > with 2.2.2-RELEASE and fxtv-0.43 or -0.44 (somewhere in the > June-August timeframe), and, after recompiling and reinstalling > everything in September, it mysteriously went away. But, now > the problem is back. I tried cleaning, deleting, and reinstalling > from port source, a few things, but, it made no difference. > 8-bit color mode still works fine. > > I also tried running the old fxtv, which I had squirreled away, > and, it produced some error messages and wouldn't run. I have > not tried reinstalling the old driver, because, I think there > is some new ioctl or something the new fxtv needs. But, if > I'm wrong about that, I could try putting the old driver back. > > Environment: 2.2-RELENG as of Saturday, including the now-included > Bt848 driver, which appears to have been updated properly (previously, > I had the ~June driver hand-installed), fxtv-0.45, ATI Graphics > Xpression, XFree86 3.3.1, using the Mach64 X server. > > > So, anyway, has anyone else tried the almost-2.2.5 release > with fxtv-0.45 using the X server in truecolor mode, and, > if so, anything odd? It may have something to do with the > relatively slow ATI card, but, it was working since early > September using 2.2.2, fxtv-0.44, and the (June?) driver. > > > -Hugh LaMaster > > > > > Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov > NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov > Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 > Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 19:28:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA27427 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27422 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03751; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220227.TAA03751@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Alex Nash cc: Randall Hopper , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:20:57 -0000." <344D46E9.F1AD078D@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:27:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you try out Xfree86 3.3.1 ? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 20:13:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00250 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00242 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00346; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710220313.XAA00346@rare.net> To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: mts@rare.net Subject: toshiba atapi cd drive. Reply-To: mts@rare.net Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:13:11 -0400 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i'm not sure if this is a hardware problem or not... but i've only getting a left channel output from a toshiba atapi cdrom drive (when i play music). When i plug in a pair of headphones, all i get is the right channel... not the left. i'm puzzled. The volume controls in cdcontrol work, does something else need to be configured? mts. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 20:45:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA01924 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01914 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00312; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710220345.XAA00312@rare.net> To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: mts@rare.net Subject: Re: toshiba atapi cd drive. Reply-To: mts@rare.net Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:45:18 -0400 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk oops. i meant i only get right channel output, never left channel output. i keep thinking i ought to review code near wcd_setchan. i have no problem with 9660 style data on the drive. mts. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 21:41:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA04680 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA04668 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04463 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220441.VAA04463@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl-3.0-current.tar.gz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:41:27 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thats an update to linux_ioctl so it compiles with recent 3.0-current. Basically, I just replaced linux_misc.c with the one from current. 2.2- folks can safely ignore this update. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 21 21:55:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05254 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05248 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04545 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220455.VAA04545@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: rah is back Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 21:55:27 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Last week, one of my scsi disk died and I hosed my main scsi disk. My quantum 2.1 gig got replaced by a Seagate Cheeta 4.3 Gig, 10000 rpm 8) The ftp directory has been restored however my http pages still need to be restored. This is a great reminder to re-install my scsi tape drive 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 00:17:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA12385 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA12379 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00328 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220717.AAA00328@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/bt848are.exe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:17:27 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thats a win95 application from brooktree to display the register values in the bt848 chipset. I think this is a great tool to fine tune our driver or figure out whats going on with the tuner section. The registers of interest with respect to tuners are: gpio_dma_ctl gpio_reg_inp gpio_data If you look in brooktree848.c:set_audio it should be fairly straightforward to find out how to set gpio_data and gpio_reg_inp. Perhaps someone can get the Philips FM1216 data sheet via fax 8) http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/search/fod.html Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 00:29:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA13085 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA13080 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00443; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710220729.AAA00443@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Flemming Jacobsen cc: nash@Mcs.Net (Alex Nash), rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:26:47 +0700." <199710210926.LAA29968@login.dknet.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:29:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I found the datasheet for the FR126 which has video and fm tuner sections: http://www.dc-na.comp.philips.com/fi1200.html Perhaps is closed enough to the fm1216 model. Cheers, Amancio > config. file to force the driver to assume a Philips tuner). > > The problem is probably that the sticker on the (i.e. my) tuner > module says FM1216. I think the ones the driver is based on are the > F[IR]1216 tuners. > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 01:24:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA16085 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from login.dknet.dk (fj@login.dknet.dk [193.88.44.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA16080 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fj@login.dknet.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by login.dknet.dk (8.7.5/8.6) id KAA24011; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:24:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199710220824.KAA24011@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: fxtv 0.45 To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 10:24:16 MET DST Cc: nash@Mcs.Net, rhh@ct.picker.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710220729.AAA00443@rah.star-gate.com>; from "Amancio Hasty" at Oct 22, 97 12:29 am Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I found the datasheet for the FR126 which has video and fm tuner > sections: > http://www.dc-na.comp.philips.com/fi1200.html > > Perhaps is closed enough to the fm1216 model. I've got that one, and according to that the band-switching in your driver is OK. Actually I can't see any conflicts between the sheet and your driver. I emailed the author of the Linux driver (nice, helpfull guy). According to him, the Linux driver supports my card. He told me that the FM and FI/FR tuners are not very different but that he had to fix something in order to not enable the radio. I looked at the Linux driver, but I didn't get any wiser (according to it the band select bytes are: 0xA4,0x94,0x34 - according to the FR1216 specs this (i.e. setting bit 3) will select the radio (at least for the low band)). I got a name at Hauppauge from whom he got a fax of the interesting pages of the FM1216 specs. I sent the guy a polite letter - hopefully he'll send something to me. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 35 43 33 49 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 05:27:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA25519 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA25507 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00984 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710221227.IAA00984@rare.net> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toshiba atapi cd drive. Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:27:24 -0400 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "matthew" says: did you check the command "mixer" ---------- > From: Michael T. Stolarchuk > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: mts@rare.net > Subject: toshiba atapi cd drive. > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 8:13 PM > > > i'm not sure if this is a hardware problem or not... > but i've only getting a right channel output from > a toshiba atapi cdrom drive (when i play music). > > When i plug in a pair of headphones, all i get > is the right channel... not the left. i'm puzzled. > > The volume controls in cdcontrol work, does > something else need to be configured? > > mts. rare% mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 90:90 Mixer bass is currently set to 75:75 Mixer treble is currently set to 75:75 Mixer synth is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 16:16 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 75:75 Mixer ogain is currently set to 75:75 all values are set equally. The left channel is still missing. doesn't mixer control the soundcard? i still get left channel missing from the headphone port on the cd player, which is why i believe its wcd related. mts. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 10:49:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA14721 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14710 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00476; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710221748.NAA00476@rare.net> To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: mts@rare.net Subject: toshiba problem solved. Reply-To: mts@rare.net Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:48:38 -0400 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry to bug ya. As i was getting ready to play with a cheap new sony cr writer (cdu926s), i unplugged the cable from the cd player from the cd player to the soundblaster board. When i plugged the headphones in, the sound wasn't attenuated anymore, AND BOTH CHANNELs appeared. This is a soundBlaster 64 awe board, and it has two jacks, one which is black, labeled CD, another which is labeled aux1. It SEEMS like the traditional cdrom audio black/white cable would plug into the (black) cdrom, and the white (soundblaster) but that's not true. The soundblaster wants a black/black style connector. i've got to find out what the white aux1 connector is for... Thanks for putting up with me. mts. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 22 19:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA20777 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA20770 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01786; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Sergey Shkonda cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to play M$ ADPCM .wav file ? In-Reply-To: <199710211449.RAA00918@bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Sergey Shkonda wrote: Use sox. In the ports tree under `audio'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 00:56:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07460 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07405 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA02301; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:54:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: "K. Murali Krishna Reddy" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [murali@vsofti.stph.net: Videoconf. solution req.] In-Reply-To: <19971020114122.61246@panke.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD. > It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K. We really don't have any products that use this little bandwidth. Across a standard Ethernet segment, you can use vic/vat. > Do you know of any drivers for Video blaster SE100 on BSD. Not that I know of. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 00:59:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07593 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07578 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA26071 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:43:26 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710230643.HAA26071@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: GUS works! snd971022.tgz To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:43:25 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just a brief note to tell that I now have guspnp support in my audio driver. The relevant bits are available from http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd971022.tgz there are still a few things to fix (e.g. some GUS cards seem to produce a DC offset which can cause problems in vat -- i have a fix contributed by Brad Karp which should go in the next snap; also, on the card I have ulaw/alaw is still not working) but overall the code works pretty well. If you have a gus and are impatient, have a try... Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 01:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08280 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (relay1.bcs.zp.ua [194.58.182.65] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA08210 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua) Received: from bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (bcs3.bcs.zp.ua [195.123.10.73]) by relay1.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24761; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:04:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from serg@localhost) by bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01928; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:04:58 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-101597 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:04:57 +0300 (EEST) Organization: Business Computer Service From: Sergey Shkonda To: Doug White Subject: Re: How to play M$ ADPCM .wav file ? Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Sergey Shkonda Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 23-Oct-97 Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Sergey Shkonda wrote: > > Use sox. In the ports tree under `audio'. sox _can't_ play MS ADPCM: >From soxgamma: wav.c: ... wavstartread(ft) { ... switch (wFormatTag) { case WAVE_FORMAT_UNKNOWN: fail("Sorry, this WAV file is in Microsoft Official Unknown format."); ... case WAVE_FORMAT_ADPCM: fail("Sorry, this WAV file is in Microsoft ADPCM format."); case WAVE_FORMAT_ALAW: /* Think I can handle this */ ... } > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > -- Sergey Shkonda (serg@bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 01:49:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA11226 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA11221 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA28028 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:50:25 -0700 (PDT) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone else tried to use the real video Beta 5.0 player for Linux? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:50:24 -0700 Message-ID: <28024.877596624@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After unpacking their 5.0B1 version, I get this behavior: jkh@time-> pwd /usr/tmp/rvplayer5.0b1 jkh@time-> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd` ./rvplayer LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=6, typ=0x450(P), num=0xf not implemented The control panel comes up as normal, and I can even open the default realvideo "welcome" and get what looks like a single frame of the video, then nix. I don't know if the failed ioctl() and the lack of video is related in anyway, but there you have it. Anyone have any better luck? Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 02:54:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA15289 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:54:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA15283 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09407; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710230954.CAA09407@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone else tried to use the real video Beta 5.0 player for Linux? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:50:24 PDT." <28024.877596624@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:54:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thats a linux audio ioctl not impleted in your linux emulation layer . Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 04:50:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA20771 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA20766 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00453; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710231150.EAA00453@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:50:24 PDT." <28024.877596624@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:50:15 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz This is only for 3.0 -current . Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 08:07:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02326 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02317 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA01155; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone else tried to use the real video Beta 5.0 player for Linux? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:54:45 PDT." <199710230954.CAA09407@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:07:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1151.877619246@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Amancio, I kind of figured that. :-) What I was more curious about was what it was trying to do and how hard it would be to implement. Jordan > Thats a linux audio ioctl not impleted in your linux emulation layer . > > Cheers, > Amancio > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 08:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02775 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02769 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:12:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA01228; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:50:15 PDT." <199710231150.EAA00453@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:12:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1225.877619573@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ah, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. :) Jordan > > > If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with > the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also > ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz > > This is only for 3.0 -current . > > Cheers, > Amancio > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 09:25:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA07890 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA07877 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02110; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710231625.JAA02110@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone else tried to use the real video Beta 5.0 player for Linux? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:07:26 PDT." <1151.877619246@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:24:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, is not that hard to implement and the ioctl is : #define SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS _IOR ('P',11, int) /* Returns a mask */ Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 10:05:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10820 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from shell3.ba.best.com (root@shell3.ba.best.com [206.184.139.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10607 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schrade@best.com) Received: from localhost (schrade@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell3.ba.best.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08263; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:02:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Krebs To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: <199710231150.EAA00453@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: >If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with >the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also >ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz >This is only for 3.0 -current . Aaargh. Do you know if anyone has gotten that stuff to work with 2.2-stable? I'm not sure I want to go to -current yet... bleh > Cheers, > Amancio *********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke ************* * Ken * NineInchNailsFront242TangerineDreamTheBreedersTekno * * * Krebs * SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s * * *********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC ************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRC: Schrade E-Mail: schrade @ best . com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 10:34:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA12751 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12745 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02618; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710231734.KAA02618@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Ken Krebs cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:02:13 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 10:34:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You don't need guspnp21 given that the problem was due to a bug in the way that the driver was handling the system call poll. The system call poll is not available for 2.2.x Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 11:16:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15943 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15934 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) From: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Received: (from lamaster@localhost) by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA27295; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710231814.LAA27295@george.arc.nasa.gov> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [murali@vsofti.stph.net: Videoconf. solution req.] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD. > It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I assume that you realize that you can't satisfy both requirements within the same session. [At the present time - there is research going on with layered codecs, etc., but, for the moment, you have to choose your settings to match the lowest-bitrate.] The standard Mbone tools (sdr; vic; vat or rat; wb or nte) work fine over Ethernet, and even passably well over ISDN with some care used in choosing codecs (e.g. DVI4 or GSM audio) and parameters (keeping video bitrate down). Over 28.8, however, you have very limited options. One option is to use proprietary hardware and software, rather than FreeBSD. Even then, quality is limited. The other option is to go ahead and use vat/rat, with the lpc4 codec. I have used it before under vat, (on an SGI Irix system - I haven't tested it on FreeBSD or rat) and it worked OK for me. LPC4 sounds tolerable for speech, like a moderate-quality AM radio signal listened to over a portable radio speaker - in other words, it is clear enough, but is obviously a little unnatural. Music sounds absolutely terrible. GSM sounds better, but, given SLIP/PPP overhead, I doubt if there would be enough bandwidth left over for much video. You have no option but to severely limit your video bandwidth. Using vat with either H.261 or nv (at very low bitrates, I prefer using nv or H.261 at a quality 4 setting, using "small picture", setting the bitrate limit to 1 fps and 10 kbits/sec, use "sending slides" mode. In other words, forget about trying to capture facial movement, and just get a sequence of stills. (Others may differ with this choice.) With your video bitrate set this low - that is, to 10 kbits/sec, you *might* barely have enough audio bandwidth left over to use rat with lpc+lpc redundancy, which would likely be a good thing using SLIP/PPP over 28.8 modem. Experiment. The "rat" audio tool is not quite as solid/debugged as vat, but, the redundancy feature should make a big difference in low bitrate-lossy situations. This is unavoidably an experimental situation in which you will have to actively choose settings which are, at best, usable. In other words, if you already have the systems at either end, it is worthwhile to try, although, since this is experimental, you certainly wouldn't want to "sell" a solution to an end-user. If you were thinking about one of the new, very-low-bitrate video codecs, AFAIK, no support is expected any time soon, because, even though there are standards, they involve patented, proprietary technology that has to be licensed. Corrections welcome. -Hugh LaMaster Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 11:16:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15992 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15984 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02949; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Ken Krebs cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Ken Krebs wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > >If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with > >the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also > >ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz > > >This is only for 3.0 -current . > > Aaargh. Do you know if anyone has gotten that stuff to work with > 2.2-stable? I'm not sure I want to go to -current yet... bleh Echo that. What was the last gugpnp to support 2.2.x, and does someone still have it laying around? guspnp18 is still too late and that's the earliest that's on rah. I had to go back to guspnp11 (which I luckily still had laying around) after I upgraded to 2.2.5. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 23 14:57:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA00836 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [198.108.1.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00817 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24060 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:57:17 -0400 (EDT) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id RAA03381 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:57:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199710232157.RAA03381@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: sound To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:57:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Doug White: > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) > To: William Bulley > Subject: Re: sound > > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, William Bulley wrote: > > > My co-worker practically insisted I buy a clone SoundBlaster card > > for my brand-spanking new FreeBSD box. I understand I will have > > to rebuild my kernel and add drivers and devices, but I am somewhat > > worried since the card I was sent has the dreaded "Plug-n-Play" > > marketing hype plastered all over the worthless Micro$loth-oriented > > documentation. > > > > I guess the first question is: will FreeBSD even stand a chance at > > using this device? Then, and only if the answer is yes, I need to > > understand what purposes I will be able to use the bloody thing... :-) > > Yes, it will, hopefully. Contact multimedia@freebsd.org. Doug says to contact this list. What day you? Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C Phone: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 647-3185 [ What's all this fuss over the end of the century and mission critial ] [ programs failing due to dates? If people simply started using Roman ] [ Numerials, the problem goes away! MCM = 1900 MIM = 1999 MM = 2000 ] From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 24 00:26:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA29491 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA29471 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA28653; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:06:45 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199710240606.HAA28653@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: sound To: web@merit.edu (William Bulley) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:06:45 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199710232157.RAA03381@ohm.merit.edu> from "William Bulley" at Oct 23, 97 05:57:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, William Bulley wrote: > > > > > My co-worker practically insisted I buy a clone SoundBlaster card > > > for my brand-spanking new FreeBSD box. I understand I will have my new driver at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/FreeBSD.html supports PnP and SoundBlaster16. I strongly suggest you _not_ to buy a SoundBlaster, and instead go for some cheap Windows Sound System-compatible card, e.g. the AOpen AW35 or others based on the Crystal CS423x, Yamaha, or if you have no other chance, OPTI931 chipsets. The WSS clones support 16-bit full duplex, whereas the SB16 can only do full duplex with a trick and with lower quality (8 bit only on one channel). Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 24 23:54:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18212 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from bloop.craftncomp.com (zzshocki.dialin.uq.net.au [203.101.242.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA18204 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@bloop.craftncomp.com) Received: from bloop.craftncomp.com (localhost.craftncomp.com [127.0.0.1]) by bloop.craftncomp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA01234 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:01:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from shocking@bloop.craftncomp.com) Message-Id: <199710250701.RAA01234@bloop.craftncomp.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: When's the updated linux emulation code going into the main barnch? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:01:49 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it? Stephen From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 00:44:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA20072 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA20067 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00235; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710250743.AAA00235@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When's the updated linux emulation code going into the main barnch? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:01:49 +1000." <199710250701.RAA01234@bloop.craftncomp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:43:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not any time soon it has a dependency on the linux sound driver 3.5 interface. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 01:17:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA21540 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA21534 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (F8lTy5MxeDTHwHGaIpbFLZtXrB/nA9Z+@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA13377; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:17:24 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (Mup8lzul5J32Y6SW+7lQ19MJ2hh4Ms3J@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06896; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:16:53 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710250816.KAA06896@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When's the updated linux emulation code going into the main barnch? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:16:52 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Hocking wrote: > I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go > into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it? I have been committing Amancio's work bit-by-bit. I'd be happy to bung this in if he is... M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 01:55:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA23312 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA23303 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00496; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710250854.BAA00496@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Mark Murray cc: Stephen Hocking , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When's the updated linux emulation code going into the main barnch? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:16:52 +0200." <199710250816.KAA06896@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 01:54:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Stephen Hocking wrote: > > I'm happily using what Amancio's done, but would like to see it go > > into the main code branch. Does anybody have plans to commit it? > > I have been committing Amancio's work bit-by-bit. I'd be happy to bung > this in if he is... > > M Hi Mark, Is up to you guys if you want to check in the code then thats fine with me. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 09:45:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10332 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10321 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (80y5ShN8bNynH2u5FbfuCtlmFxl4JHKE@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA13983; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:44:51 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (8dtDvx9HwQUrLjAGI6JEGvCeXJTrWsA1@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00823; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:44:43 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710251644.SAA00823@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:44:42 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: > If you like you can try guspnp21 which seems to work with > the linux rvplayer and you will need to get also > ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/linux_ioctl.tar.gz > > This is only for 3.0 -current . I tried this, and it does indeed work. Well done! I had do patch my system a bit to get it (linux_ioctl) to compile: 1) I had to put the guspnp21's soundcard.h into sys/i386/include (AKA /usr/include/machine). 2) I had to patch the code to work with untimeout. But it appears, on making a diff with a _really_ recent CURRENT, that some of those problems have already been fixed? What is the most recent version of this, and how well is it working on a _recent_ current? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 09:59:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA11048 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA11043 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03918; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710251659.JAA03918@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Mark Murray cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp21.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:44:42 +0200." <199710251644.SAA00823@greenpeace.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:59:22 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The last time I sup the system was last Monday morning. -------------------------------------------------------------- make world completed on Mon Oct 20 12:01:43 PDT 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 12:40:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17982 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from fani.fidata.fi (fani.fidata.fi [193.64.102.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17976 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomppa@zeta.fidata.fi) Received: from zeta.fidata.fi (tomppa@zeta.fidata.fi [193.64.103.213]) by fani.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24625 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:40:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from tomppa@localhost) by zeta.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00265; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:40:29 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:40:29 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199710251940.WAA00265@zeta.fidata.fi> From: Tomi Vainio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bt848 has been replaced by bt849 X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: tomppa@fidata.fi Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My brother bought today new Hauppauge Win/TV PCI Model 406 card. I recommended that because it's same card I have used couple months with great success. Bt848 driver couldn't probe card and then I looked bt848 chip. It was BT849! Card also has new PCI ID. I changed this to brktree_reg.h (#define BROOKTREE_848_ID 0x0351109E). After this change card probed ok. External video mode does now work but tuner mode doesn't. Tomppa -- Tomi Vainio Mail: tomppa@iki.fi Phone: +358 (0)50 1529 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 13:46:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22155 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from u2.farm.idt.net (root@u2.farm.idt.net [169.132.8.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22144 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garycorc@idt.net) Received: from idt.net (ppp-6.ts-1.mlb.idt.net [169.132.71.6]) by u2.farm.idt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07932; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34525A30.75A63E22@idt.net> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:44:32 -0400 From: "Gary T. Corcoran" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [murali@vsofti.stph.net: Videoconf. solution req.] References: <199710231814.LAA27295@george.arc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > Is there any Video Conferencing solution you know of on freeBSD. > > It should work both on Ethernet LAN and SLIP or PPP WAN at 28.8K. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I assume that you realize that you can't satisfy both requirements > within the same session. [At the present time - there is research > going on with layered codecs, etc., but, for the moment, you have > to choose your settings to match the lowest-bitrate.] > > The standard Mbone tools (sdr; vic; vat or rat; wb or nte) work > fine over Ethernet, and even passably well over ISDN with some > care used in choosing codecs (e.g. DVI4 or GSM audio) and parameters > (keeping video bitrate down). > > Over 28.8, however, you have very limited options. One option > is to use proprietary hardware and software, rather than FreeBSD. > Even then, quality is limited. [snip] > Corrections welcome. No offense taken, but having worked on H.324, I feel compelled to point out that that H.324 is an international _standard_ solution to videoconferencing over dial-up modems at speeds below 33.6Kbps. It uses (usually) the H.263 video codec, which provides much better video quality than H.261 at such low speeds. Sure, the quality is "limited" compared to the luxurious stuff you can get over a LAN, but hey, remember it's going over a 4KHz-bandwidth phone line! In my opinion it is quite usable, once you get used to the fact that it's not going to look as good as your television. :-) Unfortunately, none of the H.324 hardware/software solutions I'm aware of work with FreeBSD - they're all tailored to Windows 95 - except for the new stand-alone videophones that have become available recently (for example, the C-Phone box you can buy at retail) that don't require any computer. Gary Corcoran (personal opinions only) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 13:51:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22634 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22620 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08668; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710252051.NAA08668@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: tomppa@fidata.fi cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 has been replaced by bt849 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:40:29 +0300." <199710251940.WAA00265@zeta.fidata.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:51:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 16:25:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29535 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29527 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA00834; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:25:11 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id BAA11572; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:25:10 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:25:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199710252325.BAA11572@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: Amancio Hasty CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Amancio Hasty's message of Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:51:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Bt848 has been replaced by bt849 References: <199710251940.WAA00265@zeta.fidata.fi> <199710252051.NAA08668@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848. I have a Miro PCTV card with a Bt848 and a Temic tuner which partially works - it seems to do only NTSC (even though it does PAL under windows) and have some offset-problem for the DMA when running in 32-bit mode (the offset works correctly in 16-bit mode). Should I try to debug this, or are other people working on it and I should just not bother? Any hints on where to start? I have so far tried to switch the driver probes around to make the Tenic detect as a PAL, and done some other minor experimental driver changes, but it still seem to be doing NTSC only. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 25 17:07:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA00958 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00949 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00428; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710260007.RAA00428@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Eivind Eklund cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bt848 has been replaced by bt849 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:25:10 +0200." <199710252325.BAA11572@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:07:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please try to debug it hour PAL support is rather week. Tnks, Amancio > > For now, just return the card and get one that has a Bt848. > > I have a Miro PCTV card with a Bt848 and a Temic tuner which partially > works - it seems to do only NTSC (even though it does PAL under > windows) and have some offset-problem for the DMA when running in > 32-bit mode (the offset works correctly in 16-bit mode). > > Should I try to debug this, or are other people working on it and I > should just not bother? Any hints on where to start? > > I have so far tried to switch the driver probes around to make the > Tenic detect as a PAL, and done some other minor experimental driver > changes, but it still seem to be doing NTSC only. > > Eivind.