From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 00:20:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA21803 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA21788; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707270720.AAA21788@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Wolfgang Helbig Subject: Re: ports/4127: netscape-3.01: get rid of bogus error message (fwd) Reply-To: Wolfgang Helbig Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4127; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Wolfgang Helbig To: ache@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/4127: netscape-3.01: get rid of bogus error message (fwd) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:11:07 +0200 (MET DST) ----- Forwarded message from helbig ----- From helbig Mon Jul 21 10:07:34 1997 Subject: Re: ports/4127: netscape-3.01: get rid of bogus error message In-Reply-To: <199707202351.QAA03125@blimp.mimi.com> from Satoshi Asami at "Jul 20, 97 04:51:00 pm" To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:07:34 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] Content-Length: 1001 > * During startup the following bogus message is printed: > * > * netscape.bin: locale `de_DE.ISO_8859-1' not supported by Xlib; > * trying `C'. > > I don't think that is bogus. It is not supported. But I do not want to be told each time I type `netscape' that my locale is not supported by that ancient X11R5-Xlib. If it's beyond our forces to fix it, i. e. add the proper support, we should get rid of this daily reminder of our limits :-) We should not get used to gratuitous error messages or warnings. And our -questions list should not be filled by them. > * +unset LANG ^^^^^^^^^^^ The scope of this is confined to the environment of netscape, it does not affect the user's shell. > Um, now *this* is most certainly bogus. I'm sure Andrey has something > to say about that. :) If Andrey can fix it, i. e. put X11R5 compatible locale files into ${XNLSPATH}, it would be most welcome (like his other work). BTW, does Linux have these locale files? Wolfgang ----- End of forwarded message from helbig ----- From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 05:30:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA01325 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 05:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA01319; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707271230.FAA01319@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, joe@pavilion.net Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA01185 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 05:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23191; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:27:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199707271227.NAA23191@florence.pavilion.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:27:23 +0100 (BST) From: Josef Karthauser Reply-To: joe@pavilion.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4178: Can't make the cvsup port on a non X11 system Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4178 >Category: ports >Synopsis: The cvsup port cannot be built on a non X11 system. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 27 05:30:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef Karthauser >Organization: Pavilion Internet plc >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386 >Environment: RELENG_2.2 system, with no X11 support. >Description: The CVSup port is dependant upon the modula 3 system. It appears that you cannot build modula-3-lib on a non-X11 system because it is dependent upon libXaw. The CVSup port has a build time option to disable the gui functionality, but this doesn't help if you can't build the mod3 libraries to link it to. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Run the staticly compiled version from hub.freebsd.org/pub/CVSup This isn't in my opinion a good solution for such a core system. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 06:49:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05564 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05559 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 06:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.5/Netrail) with SMTP id JAA03934 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:48:42 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:48:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail Problems? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed a small problem with what I believe is the localdelivery agent, or perhaps a ruleset in my sendmail. I've set up a 'virtual mailmapping' setup in sendmail, using a hash database, so if somebody uses, for example 'webmaster@thecoffeehouse.com' it is supposed to forward to 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com'. According to sendmail in -bt mode, and doing an EXPN, sendmail is responding correctly, but when the message actually gets to krioni@ma.ultranet.com, it is addressed to 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com@netrail.net' (netrail.net is our local domain). I'm trying to track down what is causing this problem, and solve it. Anybody have any ideas? Let me know thanks. I've included a copy of our sendmail.cf if you wanted to take a look at it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without # modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions # are met: # 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. # 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the # documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software # must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the University of # California, Berkeley and its contributors. # 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors # may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software # without specific prior written permission. # # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND # ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE # IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE # ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE # FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL # DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS # OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) # HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT # LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY # OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF # SUCH DAMAGE. # V5 #Cwlocalhost Fw/etc/sendmail.Cw CP. # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS # who I send unqualified names to (null means deliver locally) DR # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DM # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade #CLroot CEroot # operators that cannot be in local usernames (i.e., network indicators) CO @ % # a class with just dot (for identifying canonical names) C.. # dequoting map Kdequote dequote ###################### # Special macros # ###################### # SMTP initial login message De$j Sendmail $v/$Z ready at $b # UNIX initial From header format DlFrom $g $d # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^/[] # format of a total name Dq$?x$x <$g>$|$g$. # Configuration version number #DZ8.6.12 DZNetrail # This will look in LocalIP and if the address are not in that file it # sendmail will not relay the mail. F{LocalIP}/etc/LocalIP ############### # Options # ############### # strip message body to 7 bits on input? O7False # wait (in minutes) for alias file rebuild Oa10 # location of alias file OA/etc/aliases # minimum number of free blocks on filesystem / max msg size #Ob4/500000 #Ob4 # substitution for space (blank) characters OB. # avoid connecting to "expensive" mailers on initial submission? OcFalse # checkpoint queue runs after every N successful deliveries OC10 # default delivery mode Odbackground # automatically rebuild the alias database? ODFalse # error message header/file #OE/etc/sendmail.oE # error mode #Oep # save Unix-style "From_" lines at top of header? OfFalse # temporary file mode OF0600 # match recipients against GECOS field? OGFalse # default GID Og1 # maximum hop count Oh17 # location of help file OH/usr/lib/sendmail.hf # ignore dots as terminators in incoming messages? OiFalse # Insist that the BIND name server be running to resolve names OI # deliver MIME-encapsulated error messages? OjTrue # Forward file search path #OJ/var/forward/$u:$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward # open connection cache size Ok2 # open connection cache timeout OK5m # use Errors-To: header? OlFalse # log level OL9 # send to me too, even in an alias expansion? OmFalse # verify RHS in newaliases? OnTrue # default messages to old style headers if no special punctuation? OoTrue # SMTP daemon options #OOPort=esmtp # privacy flags Opauthwarnings,needexpnhelo,restrictqrun # who (if anyone) should get extra copies of error messages #OPPostmaster # slope of queue-only function #Oq600000 # queue directory OQ/var/spool/mqueue # read timeout -- now OK per RFC 1123 section 5.3.2 #Ordatablock=10m # queue up everything before forking? OsTrue # status file OS/etc/sendmail.st # default message timeout interval OT5d/4h # time zone handling: # if undefined, use system default # if defined but null, use TZ envariable passed in # if defined and non-null, use that info #Ot # default UID Ou1 # list of locations of user database file (null means no lookup) OU # fallback MX host #OVfall.back.host.net # if we are the best MX host for a site, try it directly instead of config err OwFalse # load average at which we just queue messages Ox5 # load average at which we refuse connections OX10 # work recipient factor #Oy30000 # deliver each queued job in a separate process? OYFalse # work class factor #Oz1800 # work time factor #OZ90000 ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Plist=-30 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ################################# # Virtual domain mappings (MDZ) # ################################# Kvd hash /etc/sendmail.Kvd Kvdi hash /etc/sendmail.Kvdi ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### Troot Tdaemon Tmajordom ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: $g HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?u for $u$.; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $q H?F?From: $q H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject: # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### REWRITING RULES ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ########################################### ### Ruleset 1 -- Sender Rewriting ### ########################################### S1 R$- $@$(vd $1 $:$1 $) funky rewriting R$* < @ netrail . net > $* $@$(vd $1 $:$1<@netrail.net>$2 $) funky rewriting R$* < @ netrail . net . > $* $@$(vd $1 $:$1<@netrail.net>$2 $) funky rewriting ########################################### ### Ruleset 3 -- Name Canonicalization ### ########################################### S3 # handle null input (translate to <@> special case) R$@ $@ <@> # basic textual canonicalization -- note RFC733 heuristic here R$*<$*>$*<$*>$* $2$3<$4>$5 strip multiple <> <> R$*<$*<$+>$*>$* <$3>$5 2-level <> nesting R$*<>$* $@ <@> MAIL FROM:<> case R$*<$+>$* $2 basic RFC821/822 parsing # handle list:; syntax as special case R$*:;$* $@ $1 :; <@> # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@ $+ , $+ @ $1 : $2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@ $+ : $+ $@ $>96 < @$1 > : $2 handle # find focus for list syntax R $+ : $* ; @ $+ $@ $>96 $1 : $2 ; < @ $3 > list syntax R $+ : $* ; $@ $1 : $2; list syntax # find focus for @ syntax addresses R$+ @ $+ $: $1 < @ $2 > focus on domain R$+ < $+ @ $+ > $1 $2 < @ $3 > move gaze right R$+ < @ $+ > $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > already canonical # do some sanity checking R$* < @ $* : $* > $* $1 < @ $2 $3 > $4 nix colons in addrs # if we have % signs, take the rightmost one R$* % $* $1 @ $2 First make them all @s. R$* @ $* @ $* $1 % $2 @ $3 Undo all but the last. R$* @ $* $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > Insert < > and finish # else we must be a local name ################################################ ### Ruleset 96 -- bottom half of ruleset 3 ### ################################################ # At this point, everything should be in a "local_part<@domain>extra" format. S96 # handle special cases for local names R$* < @ localhost > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 no domain at all R$* < @ localhost . $m > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 local domain R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $1 < @@ [ $2 ] > $3 mark [a.b.c.d] R$* < @@ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $3 self-literal R$* < @@ $+ > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 canon IP addr R$* $:$( vdi $1 $:$1 $) funky rewriting R$*. $:$( vdi $1 $:$1. $) funky rewriting # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 # local host aliases and pseudo-domains are always canonical R$* < @ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $* $=P > $* $: $1 < @ $2 $3 . > $4 R$* < @ $* . . > $* $1 < @ $2 . > $3 # if this is the local hostname, make sure we treat is as canonical R$* < @ $j > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 ################################################## ### Ruleset 4 -- Final Output Post-rewriting ### ################################################## S4 R$*<@> $@ $1 handle <> and list:; # strip trailing dot off possibly canonical name R$* < @ $+ . > $* $1 < @ $2 > $3 # externalize local domain info R$* < $+ > $* $1 $2 $3 defocus R@ $+ : @ $+ : $+ @ $1 , @ $2 : $3 canonical R@ $* $@ @ $1 ... and exit # delete duplicate local names R$+ % $=w @ $=w $1 @ $j u%host@host => u@host ############################################################## ### Ruleset 97 -- recanonicalize and call ruleset zero ### ### (used for recursive calls) ### ############################################################## S97 R$* $: $>3 $1 R$* $@ $>0 $1 ###################################### ### Ruleset 0 -- Parse Address ### ###################################### S0 R<@> $#local $: <> special case error msgs R$* : $* ; $#error $@ USAGE $: "list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses" R<@ $+> $#error $@ USAGE $: "user address required" R<$* : $* > $#error $@ USAGE $: "colon illegal in host name part" # handle numeric address spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $>98 $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 numeric internet spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $#smtp $@ [$2] $: $1 < @ [$2] > $3 still numeric: send # now delete the local info -- note $=O to find characters that cause forwarding R$* < @ > $* $@ $>97 $1 user@ => user R< @ $=w . > : $* $@ $>97 $2 @here:... -> ... R$* $=O $* < @ $=w . > $@ $>97 $1 $2 $3 ...@here -> ... # handle local hacks R$* $: $>98 $1 # short circuit local delivery so forwarded email works R$+ < @ $=w . > $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $H > first try hub R$+ < $+ @ $+ > $#local $: $1 yep .... R$+ < $+ @ > $#local $: @ $1 nope, local address # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts # pass names that still have a host to a smarthost (if defined) R$* < @ $* > $* $: $>95 < $S > $1 < @ $2 > $3 glue on smarthost name # deal with other remote names R$* < @$* > $* $#smtp $@ $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 user@host.domain # if this is quoted, strip the quotes and try again R$+ $: $(dequote $1 $) strip quotes R$+ $=O $+ $@ $>97 $1 $2 $3 try again # handle locally delivered names R$=L $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ $#local $: $1 regular local names ########################################################################### ### Ruleset 5 -- special rewriting after aliases have been expanded ### ### (new sendmail only) ### ########################################################################### S5 # see if we have a relay or a hub R$+ $: < $R > $1 try relay R< > $+ $: < $H > $1 try hub R< > $+ $@ $1 nope, give up R< $- : $+ > $+ $: $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 < @ $2 > R< $+ > $+ $@ $>95 < $1 > $2 < @ $1 > ################################################################### ### Ruleset 95 -- canonify mailer:host syntax to triple ### ################################################################### S95 R< > $* $@ $1 strip off null relay R< $- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 try qualified mailer R< $=w > $* $@ $2 delete local host R< $+ > $* $#relay $@ $1 $: $2 use unqualified mailer ################################################################### ### Ruleset 98 -- local part of ruleset zero (can be null) ### ################################################################### S98 Scheck_rcpt # first: get client addr R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1 R0 $| $* $@ ok no client addr: directly invoked R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ ok from here # not local, check rcpt R$* $| $* $: $>3 $2 # remove local part, maybe repeatedly R$*<@$=w.>$* $>3 $1 $3 # still something left? R$*<@$+>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 we do not relay # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### MAILER DEFINITIONS ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ################################################## ### Local and Program Mailer specification ### ################################################## ##### @(#)local.m4 8.6 (Berkeley) 10/24/93 ##### #Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMrmn, S=10, R=20/40, # A=mail -d $u Mlocal, P=/usr/bin/mail, F=lsDFMrmn, S=10, R=20/40, A=mail -d $u #Mprog, P=/usr/libexec/smrsh, F=lsDFMeu, S=10, R=20/40, D=$z:/, # A=sh -c $u Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/, T=X-Unix, A=sh -c $u S10 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R$+ $: $>40 $1 S20 R$+ < @ $* > $: $1 strip host part S40 ##################################### ### SMTP Mailer specification ### ##################################### ##### @(#)smtp.m4 8.15 (Berkeley) 2/14/94 ##### Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, A=IPC $h Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, A=IPC $h Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, A=IPC $h # # envelope sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S11 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$* :; <@> $@ $1 :; list:; special case R$* $@ $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names # # header recipient rewriting if not masquerading recipients # S21 # do sender/recipient common rewriting R$+ $: $>51 $1 # unqualified names (e.g., "eric") are qualified by local host R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already qualified R$+ $: $1 < @ $j > add local domain # # header sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S31 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$* :; <@> $@ $1 :; list:; special case # do special header rewriting R$* <@> $* $@ $1 <@> $2 pass null host through R< @ $* > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 pass route-addr through R$=E < @ $=w . > $@ $1 < @ $2 > exposed user as is R$* < @ $=w . > $: $1 < @ $2 @ $M > masquerade as domain R$* < @ $+ @ > $@ $1 < @ $2 > in case $M undefined R$* < @ $+ @ $+ > $@ $1 < @ $3 > $M is defined -- use it R$* $@ $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names # # convert pseudo-domain addresses to real domain addresses # S51 # pass s through R< @ $+ > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 resolve # output fake domains as user%fake@relay # # common sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S61 R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already qualified R$=E $@ $1 < @ $j> show exposed names R$+ $: $1 < @ $M > user w/o host R$+ <@> $: $1 < @ $j > in case $M undefined From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 07:25:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06718 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 07:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06705; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 07:25:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199707271425.HAA06705@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Sendmail Problems? To: jonz@netrail.net (Jonathan A. Zdziarski) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 07:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" at Jul 27, 97 09:48:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > I've noticed a small problem with what I believe is the localdelivery > agent, or perhaps a ruleset in my sendmail. I've set up a 'virtual > mailmapping' setup in sendmail, using a hash database, so if somebody > uses, for example 'webmaster@thecoffeehouse.com' it is supposed to forward > to 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com'. According to sendmail in -bt mode, and doing > an EXPN, sendmail is responding correctly, but when the message actually > gets to krioni@ma.ultranet.com, it is addressed to > 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com@netrail.net' (netrail.net is our local domain). > I'm trying to track down what is causing this problem, and solve it. > Anybody have any ideas? Let me know thanks. I've included a copy of our > sendmail.cf if you wanted to take a look at it. sound like you are performing the lookup correctly and but then appending the local domain. hmm...you sent your /etc/sendmail.cf rather then your .mc file....you are using the m4 macros for sendmail arent you. /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf/*.mc why not use the builtin genericstable and virtusertable. virtusertable for translating inbound mail and genericstable for outbound? jmb From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 08:30:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09513 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09507; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707271530.IAA09507@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, mi@aldan.ziplink.net Received: from aldan.ziplink.net (aldan.ziplink.net [199.232.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09308 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtfm.ziplink.net (rtfm [199.232.255.52]) by aldan.ziplink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17192 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.ziplink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06737; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707271523.LAA06737@rtfm.ziplink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.ziplink.net Reply-To: mi@aldan.ziplink.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4179: lmbench-1.1 dumps core after asking for memory size Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4179 >Category: ports >Synopsis: lmbench-1.1 dumps core after asking for memory size >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 27 08:30:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mikhail Teterin >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-970618-SNAP i386 >Environment: >Description: lmbench-1.1 dies trying to figure out machine's memory parameters -- first, it asks for the raw disk device. Second -- for the size of RAM to be used by RAM-related benchmarks. Whatever you answer -- I tried 128, 32, and the default 16, the ``memsize'' binary segfaults. The configuration script gets the syntax error then. >How-To-Repeat: See above. >Fix: Not sure yet... >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 09:00:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10412 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10405; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA12948; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707271559.IAA12948@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jeffe@ichips.intel.com, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4015 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: package linux_lib-2.4 can run / out of disk space State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Sun Jul 27 08:59:17 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: /compat is now linked to /usr/compat as part of the install. From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 09:48:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12438 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12432; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA12531; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:48:08 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:48:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail Problem In-Reply-To: <199707271425.HAA06705@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yep you're right. The virtuser table works great :) I dunno what default config this thing was using, but it was an old one (V5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: :Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: :> :> I've noticed a small problem with what I believe is the localdelivery :> agent, or perhaps a ruleset in my sendmail. I've set up a 'virtual :> mailmapping' setup in sendmail, using a hash database, so if somebody :> uses, for example 'webmaster@thecoffeehouse.com' it is supposed to forward :> to 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com'. According to sendmail in -bt mode, and doing :> an EXPN, sendmail is responding correctly, but when the message actually :> gets to krioni@ma.ultranet.com, it is addressed to :> 'krioni@ma.ultranet.com@netrail.net' (netrail.net is our local domain). :> I'm trying to track down what is causing this problem, and solve it. :> Anybody have any ideas? Let me know thanks. I've included a copy of our :> sendmail.cf if you wanted to take a look at it. : : sound like you are performing the lookup correctly and : but then appending the local domain. : : hmm...you sent your /etc/sendmail.cf rather then your : .mc file....you are using the m4 macros for sendmail arent you. : /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf/*.mc : : why not use the builtin genericstable and virtusertable. : virtusertable for translating inbound mail and : genericstable for outbound? : :jmb : From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 13:50:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20760 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20753; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707272050.NAA20753@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: ports/4173: autoconf-port: configure and build only happen when ``make install'' Reply-To: Bill Fenner Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4173; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bill Fenner To: mi@aldan.ziplink.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4173: autoconf-port: configure and build only happen when ``make install'' Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:48:03 PDT Have you tried a "make clean" first? There may have been .xxx_done cookies that confused your build. I just did % cd /usr/ports/devel/autoconf % make >> Checksum OK for autoconf-2.12.tar.gz. ===> Extracting for autoconf-2.12 ===> Patching for autoconf-2.12 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for autoconf-2.12 ===> Configuring for autoconf-2.12 ... ===> Building for autoconf-2.12 ... Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 13:59:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21162 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21154 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.81]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA120 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:50:32 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id QAA00521; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970727165924.62014@scsn.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:59:24 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ports/mbone/sdr Broken... Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk # cd /usr/ports/mbone/sdr # make >> Checksum OK for sdr.V2.3a1.tar.gz. ===> Extracting for sdr-2.3a1 ===> sdr-2.3a1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> sdr-2.3a1 depends on shared library: tk41\.1 - found ===> Patching for sdr-2.3a1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for sdr-2.3a1 ===> Configuring for sdr-2.3a1 ===> Building for sdr-2.3a1 cd freebsd; gmake all gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mbone/sdr/work/freebsd' cc -O2 -pipe -ggdb -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DFREEBSD -DNORANDPROTO -DDEFINED_ERRLIST -c ../src/bitmaps.c ../src/bitmaps.c:34: tk.h: No such file or directory gmake[1]: *** [bitmaps.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mbone/sdr/work/freebsd' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 14:04:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21492 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21486 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.81]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA121 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:55:16 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id RAA00592; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970727170404.57794@scsn.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:04:04 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ports/mbone/sdr Broken Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I guess I should have mentioned that this is on -current... ---------------------------------------------------------------- ># cd /usr/ports/mbone/sdr ># make >>> Checksum OK for sdr.V2.3a1.tar.gz. >===> Extracting for sdr-2.3a1 >===> sdr-2.3a1 depends on executable: gmake - found >===> sdr-2.3a1 depends on shared library: tk41\.1 - found >===> Patching for sdr-2.3a1 >===> Applying FreeBSD patches for sdr-2.3a1 >===> Configuring for sdr-2.3a1 >===> Building for sdr-2.3a1 >cd freebsd; gmake all >gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mbone/sdr/work/freebsd' >cc -O2 -pipe -ggdb -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DFREEBSD -DNORANDPROTO -DDEFINED_ERRLIST -c ../src/bitmaps.c >../src/bitmaps.c:34: tk.h: No such file or directory >gmake[1]: *** [bitmaps.o] Error 1 >gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mbone/sdr/work/freebsd' >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >*** Error code 2 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 15:27:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24908 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24900 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id QAA18566; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28163; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:28:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc Slemko To: áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× , ports@freebsd.org Subject: apache port should install some support/ files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think it should install htpasswd and dbmmanage and/or dbmmanage.new. I see far too many people who have installed the port and who don't have a source tree having trouble getting things like htpasswd. Don't have time to make the changes right now, but if it is done I will try to get around to it sometime. From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 15:47:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25731 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25726; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:47:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA15165; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707272247.PAA15165@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4178 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: The cvsup port cannot be built on a non X11 system. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->jdp Responsible-Changed-By: jdp Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jul 27 15:46:29 PDT 1997 Responsible-Changed-Why: Maintainer of the ports in question. From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 27 16:05:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26373 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.124.23.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26365 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id DAA00387; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:05:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 03:05:14 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= X-Sender: ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net To: Marc Slemko cc: ports@freebsd.org, Peter Wemm Subject: Re: apache port should install some support/ files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Marc Slemko wrote: > I think it should install htpasswd and dbmmanage and/or dbmmanage.new. I > see far too many people who have installed the port and who don't have a > source tree having trouble getting things like htpasswd. > > Don't have time to make the changes right now, but if it is done I will > try to get around to it sometime. It is good idea, but we should wait until Peter restores history after port splitting and additionly splits ssl version as he plan... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 00:59:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16772 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16765 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA06595; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:59:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA02622; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:01:01 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <19970728100101.34612@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:01:01 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies To: "Chris F." Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwindows apps: Can't open display References: <199707261902.OAA18226@smtp.gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.75e In-Reply-To: <199707261902.OAA18226@smtp.gte.net>; from "Chris F." on Sat, Jul 26, 1997 at 02:02:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jul 26, 1997 at 02:02:11PM -0500, Chris F. wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 2.2.2. When running Xwindows applications I get the > following error: > > (When I don't set the display variable) > > Error: Can't open display: This is normal. You gotta set the DISPLAY variable. > > (When I set it to :0) > > Error: Can't open display: :0 > > I don't know what I should set my display variable to. I have tried setting > it to :0, unix:0, unix:0.0, as they were suggested in archived mailing list > messages. None of them caused any different results. Please copy all > suggestions to me at theta@gte.net. Setting it to :0 should work. Which X server are you running? Did you su to some other user? > > Thank you, > Chris -- --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 04:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24846 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24832; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id EAA19680; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 04:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707281146.EAA19680@freefall.freebsd.org> To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/3927 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: xview library fails on -current and on 2.2.x State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 28 04:45:46 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Submitted patch applied, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 05:25:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29685 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.ts.kiev.ua (viking.ts.kiev.ua [193.124.229.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29678 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aviion.ts.kiev.ua by smtp1.ts.kiev.ua with SMTP id PAA23413; (8.8.3/zah/2.1) Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:18:51 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from nbki.ipri.kiev.ua by aviion.ts.kiev.ua with ESMTP id NAA21395; (8.6.11/zah/2.1) Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:06:02 GMT Received: from cki.ipri.kiev.ua by nbki.ipri.kiev.ua with ESMTP id OAA09577; (8.6.9/zah/1.1) Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:52:00 +0100 Received: from 194.44.146.14 (mac.ipri.kiev.ua [194.44.146.14]) by cki.ipri.kiev.ua (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02020; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:55:09 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <33DC7AF2.312B@cki.ipri.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:56:41 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@cki.ipri.kiev.ua Organization: IPRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chris F." CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwindows apps: Can't open display References: <199707261902.OAA18226@smtp.gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris F. wrote: > > I am using FreeBSD 2.2.2. When running Xwindows applications I get the > following error: > > (When I don't set the display variable) > > Error: Can't open display: > > (When I set it to :0) > > Error: Can't open display: :0 > > I don't know what I should set my display variable to. I have tried setting > it to :0, unix:0, unix:0.0, as they were suggested `hostname:0.0` And if you run Xclients from su, when logined as non-root, you must say xhosts +localhost before su-ing And you question is not for freebsd-ports, it's for freebsd-questions. in archived mailing list > messages. None of them caused any different results. Please copy all > suggestions to me at theta@gte.net. > > Thank you, > Chris From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 09:43:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17020 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA17015 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <53346(4)>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:41:44 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177512>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:41:32 -0700 To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/mbone/sdr Broken... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jul 97 13:59:24 PDT." <19970727165924.62014@scsn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:41:24 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Jul28.094132pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Looks like your tk install is broken. Do you have a /usr/local/include/tk.h? Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 10:06:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18307 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17880 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707281700.KAA17880@hub.freebsd.org> From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD ports list Subject: Current unassigned ports problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended Work on the problem has been postponed. This happens if a timely solution is not possible or is not cost-effective at the present time. The PR continues to exist, though a solution is not being actively sought. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1997/01/01] ports/2352 ports wu-ftp port does not work with DES crypte o [1997/04/01] ports/3165 ports tex-3.14159.tgz lacks file o [1997/05/07] ports/3536 ports MakeTexPK calls gftopk with wron argument o [1997/06/14] ports/3872 ports Enter key not working properly in trn por o [1997/07/14] ports/4093 ports [oleo] Calculating 1/1 becomes infinity. 5 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1996/10/11] bin/1773 ports A NULL pointer causing segmentation core s [1996/12/22] ports/2268 ports libc from linux emulator does not use /et o [1997/02/13] ports/2731 ports new port: Tcl 8.0A2 o [1997/03/07] ports/2918 ports Unable to pass 8+ command line arguments o [1997/03/11] ports/2956 ports New Port: xgospel-1.10d in ftp.freebsd.or a [1997/03/15] ports/2994 ports xpm port does not build for the first tim o [1997/05/20] ports/3640 ports xlockmore galaxy bombs out o [1997/05/21] ports/3649 ports xlock quits on receipt of signalxx 8 o [1997/07/17] ports/4105 ports tac_plus port update o [1997/07/20] ports/4129 ports New port uploaded to incoming/sane.tar.gz o [1997/07/27] ports/4179 ports lmbench-1.1 dumps core after asking for m 11 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1996/04/23] ports/1155 ports systat or top display disagreeing informa o [1996/07/21] ports/1416 ports cflow(1) doesn't parse GNU C __attribute_ o [1996/08/21] ports/1520 ports sudo dosn't recognise certain passwords a o [1996/10/31] ports/1939 ports exodus port doesn't build with new g++-2. o [1996/12/03] ports/2145 ports qpopper bulletin support broken o [1996/12/08] ports/2182 ports FreeBSD's and X-32's list of locales do n o [1996/12/21] ports/2264 ports latex* ports need updating o [1997/01/12] ports/2477 ports Tcl 8.0 a1 port submission. o [1997/01/12] ports/2478 ports Tk 8.0a1 port submission. f [1997/01/24] ports/2571 ports Maxima lacks pkg directory a [1997/03/06] ports/2902 ports Fix xmcd port for PACKAGE_BUILDING a [1997/03/06] ports/2905 ports Fixed port: xshisen-1.36 o [1997/03/08] ports/2920 ports patch for mispositioned xv windows under o [1997/03/09] ports/2926 ports xmgt-2.31 port, now in pub/incoming on ft o [1997/03/11] ports/2949 ports bsd.port.mk needs something like FETCH_EN o [1997/03/11] ports/2951 ports xgraph source is not on MASTER_SITE o [1997/03/12] ports/2961 ports New port(jp-vftool-1.2):japanese/virfonts o [1997/03/13] ports/2974 ports updated Makefile and patch-ab of jp-dvi2p o [1997/03/15] ports/2993 ports qmail-port-take2-proff.tar.gz in incoming o [1997/03/17] ports/3012 ports qmailanalog port in incoming a [1997/03/21] ports/3052 ports /usr/ports/lang/expect does not find tkCo o [1997/03/24] ports/3081 ports sitelispdir is a directory no a path in x o [1997/03/24] ports/3090 ports ircii-2.9-roof does not run. o [1997/04/01] ports/3169 ports nn port broken o [1997/04/15] ports/3306 ports new port-package for ifmail o [1997/04/17] ports/3318 ports New port: jigsaw (Java-based HTTP server) a [1997/04/19] ports/3335 ports new port request of korean/hanemacs o [1997/04/25] ports/3383 ports kaffe core dumps if LD_LIBRARY_PATH not s o [1997/04/28] ports/3411 ports New port - Atari 8 bit computer emulator o [1997/04/28] ports/3412 ports New port - Apple IIGS beta release s [1997/05/04] ports/3498 ports nn-current port is out of date f [1997/05/14] ports/3597 ports jp-groff-0.99 port macro update o [1997/05/21] ports/3657 ports Port of NCSA HyperNews submitted as p5-hy o [1997/05/31] ports/3729 ports pgsql dies when initiated o [1997/05/31] ports/3737 ports The DHCPD no longer works under FreeBSD 2 a [1997/06/02] ports/3765 ports New port: mpd-1.0b3 o [1997/06/04] ports/3787 ports ghostscript-3.53 has bad PLIST o [1997/06/07] ports/3806 ports update s3mod to 1.09 o [1997/06/09] ports/3824 ports New port: snes97 o [1997/06/09] ports/3831 ports netris port doesn't install sr o [1997/06/14] ports/3870 ports Upgrade tkdesk 1.0b3 --> 1.0b4 o [1997/06/17] ports/3888 ports port net/wu-ftpd: tiny bug that is wu-ftp o [1997/06/18] ports/3898 ports gnats is updated, and 3.01 is not on the o [1997/06/19] ports/3907 ports Submission of ircII-EPIC, an enhanced irc o [1997/06/21] ports/3922 ports Author released a new version of nmh - up o [1997/06/22] ports/3924 ports de.spinne-1.0.0 o [1997/06/22] ports/3928 ports New port: jp-pgp-2.6.3ia (language) o [1997/06/22] ports/3935 ports another mp3 player o [1997/06/23] ports/3939 ports new port: latex2html_icon_server o [1997/06/23] ports/3940 ports port of latex2html-96.1 o [1997/06/25] ports/3955 ports -kpassive_ftp=true fails on socket connec o [1997/06/26] ports/3958 ports a2ps fails if used according to man o [1997/06/29] ports/3983 ports New port: psf toolkit o [1997/06/29] ports/3987 ports Update port - crossgo32 o [1997/06/30] ports/3991 ports set of OffiX ports o [1997/06/30] ports/3996 ports nmh needs dependecy on autoconfig to work o [1997/06/30] ports/3997 ports New port: VRML browser (vrweb) o [1997/07/01] ports/4008 ports New port - DJGPP Version 2 libraries for o [1997/07/01] ports/4009 ports New port - Curses for crossgo32 with DJGP o [1997/07/02] ports/4014 ports package/port installation obeys roots uma o [1997/07/02] ports/4017 ports Someone has to upgrade the plor port! o [1997/07/03] ports/4023 ports One can't play the cardgame Ass on FreeBS o [1997/07/03] ports/4025 ports New port - jp-ebw3 o [1997/07/04] ports/4027 ports New port: rot13-1.3 o [1997/07/05] ports/4038 ports Initial port of the alpha-rel. WindowMake o [1997/07/07] ports/4054 ports Port for Amp 0.7.3 o [1997/07/07] ports/4055 ports Port for XMpeg3 v1.0 o [1997/07/08] ports/4066 ports Port for Mikmod 2.14 o [1997/07/09] ports/4067 ports wrong formats of files in offix.tar o [1997/07/11] ports/4077 ports new version of lout - 3.10 o [1997/07/13] ports/4083 ports netscape wrapper doesn't hand off args co o [1997/07/14] ports/4094 ports squid11 port is outdated o [1997/07/16] ports/4100 ports I contribute a new port. o [1997/07/16] ports/4103 ports Should I or should I not ? o [1997/07/16] ports/4104 ports Minor fix to hobbes-icons-xpm3 o [1997/07/17] ports/4109 ports New port: xcopilot o [1997/07/18] ports/4118 ports New Port: bind 8.1.1 o [1997/07/19] ports/4121 ports New port: xpbiff and xpbiff-youbin o [1997/07/19] ports/4124 ports Apache 1.2.1 port does not install docume o [1997/07/20] ports/4127 ports netscape-3.01: get rid of bogus error mes o [1997/07/20] ports/4133 ports new port: mpich.tar.gz o [1997/07/21] ports/4139 ports new port: bibview o [1997/07/21] ports/4140 ports New port: xgolgo (x11) o [1997/07/22] ports/4142 ports Hugs port to FreeBSD 2.2.1 o [1997/07/22] ports/4148 ports scheme48 port not at latest version o [1997/07/22] ports/4149 ports gcl port isn't of latest version o [1997/07/24] ports/4155 ports Fixed port: imlib-0.2 o [1997/07/24] ports/4156 ports Fixed port: enlightenment-0.10 o [1997/07/25] ports/4166 ports Wnn6 is a Japanese input method o [1997/07/26] ports/4173 ports autoconf-port: configure and build only h o [1997/07/26] ports/4175 ports Update mail/nmh port to nmh-0.17 91 problems total. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 10:10:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18507 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18501; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707281710.KAA18501@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: ports/4179: lmbench-1.1 dumps core after asking for memory size Reply-To: Bill Fenner Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4179; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bill Fenner To: mi@aldan.ziplink.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4179: lmbench-1.1 dumps core after asking for memory size Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:06:14 PDT Could you build with debugging and send in a traceback? (Replying to this message will insert it into the audit trail of this bug report). "memsize" doesn't segfault for me. Thanks, Bill P.S. You're not using malloc flag A, right? memsize depends on malloc failing, so malloc flag A will just interfere with memsize's operation. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 10:17:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18836 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18829 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA03920 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:16:54 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:16:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Terminals/etc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm interested in writing a HTML addon for nocol, which will require a couple things.. - bypassing the 'terminal type' prompt and just setting the variable to html - setting terminal variables for mixed content types, clear screens, etc for html I think I've got the first no problem, but I'm not sure where to create a new 'html' terminal type - is there some config file, or termcap file? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 12:59:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28436 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28417 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.13]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA141; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:49:36 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA00895; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970728155857.22689@scsn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:58:57 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Bill Fenner Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/mbone/sdr Broken... Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970727165924.62014@scsn.net> <97Jul28.094132pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <97Jul28.094132pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>; from Bill Fenner on Mon, Jul 28, 1997 at 09:41:24AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jul 28, 1997 at 09:41:24AM -0800, Bill Fenner wrote: > Looks like your tk install is broken. Do you have a /usr/local/include/tk.h? > > Bill No, but I _do_ have a /usr/local/include/tk4.1/tk.h AND a /usr/local/include/tk4.2/tk.h :-) Which one is supposed to be /usr/local/include/tk.h ? From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 14:47:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05508 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05495 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA14163 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Mush Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I could've sworn that mush (Mail User SHell or somesuch) was in ports. Did it get removed? I don't need it much, but it had one nifty feature, the ability to save a message to a file with the filename the same as the subject, modulo a little cleanup for bogus characters. Very handy. If somebody knows of some utility that can do this, it would be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 15:05:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06689 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (vector.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06673 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wall.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA01106 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:08:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707282208.AAA01106@wall.jhs.no_domain> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: tixwish From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: jhs@freebsd.org, Fallback: jhs@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Email: Home: jhs@freebsd.org Work:stacey@caeu05.otn.lm.dasa.de X-Email-Bulk: Bulk: jhs@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ X-Company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants. X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: Phone +49.89.268616, Fax +49.89.2608126, Data +49.89.26023276 X-Tel-Work: Work +49.89.607.29788 X-Software: FreeBSD (Unix) + EXMH 1.6.9 (PGP key on web) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:01:01 +0200." <19970728100101.34612@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:08:29 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone done/doing a tixwish port ? Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 16:40:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13012 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12993 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.55]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA166 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:30:45 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id TAA01960; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970728193841.26801@scsn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:38:41 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tk/Tcl broken(?) Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's starting to look like lots of (if not all) ports that depend on tk4.1/tcl75 are currently broken, _if_ you have installed either recently, because tk.h is no longer installed in /usr/local/include (where a lot of ports expect to find it) and tclconfig.sh is no longer in /usr/local/lib (where a lot of ports expect to find it). :-( # cd /usr/ports/x11/tix # make >> Checksum OK for Tix4.1.0.tar.gz. ===> Configuring for tix-4.1.0 loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes creating ./config.status creating Makefile loading cache ./config.cache checking for uname... uname -a checking cached value of $uname... no checking for strdup... yes checking for strcasecmp... yes checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o bin -g bin checking for ranlib... ranlib checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for unistd.h... yes checking for limits.h... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking Tcl source directory... /usr/include/tcl checking Tk source directory... /usr/local/include/tk4.1 .: Can't open /usr/local/include/tk4.1/../../lib/tkConfig.sh *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 17:09:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14875 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (firewall-user@inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14859 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id KAA12877; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:09:29 +1000 Received: from citecuf.citec.qld.gov.au(147.132.176.10) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma012828; Tue, 29 Jul 97 10:09:14 +1000 Received: from manila.workcover.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.workcover.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by citecuf.citec.qld.gov.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA28397 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:09:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by manila.workcover.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id AAA24855 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:09:42 GMT Message-Id: <199707290009.AAA24855@manila.workcover.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: When's the TK port going to 8.0b2? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 10:09:41 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And also using the recently imported-into-the-base tcl8.0b2? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 18:00:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19722 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19715 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA04373 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:59:55 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:59:55 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: stdio.h Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed about half of the programs I compile have a problem with the following line in stdio.h (v2.2.2) extern __const char *__const sys_errlist[]; If I comment it out, things are fine, but I have to regularly mess with it. Has this been fixed in the latest and greatest...is it a big deal to anybody else? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 18:14:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20680 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20673 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA01038; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33DD4409.794BDF32@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:14:49 -0400 From: Jim Durham Organization: Dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: netscape References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > I noted Rip Toren's post, and since my netscape is also timing out, I went > to look around at the netscape site. In > /pub/communicator/4.01/4.01b6/english/unix/other I found two different > files that might possibly be the next netscape: > > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd.tar.gz and > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd2.tar.gz > > Anybody know what the difference is? My connection to the internet isn't > too high-speed, so I don't want to download the wrong guy if I can avoid > it. Thanks. > I downloaded and tried them both on 2.1.7 and they both bombed with a floating point exception. -Jim Durham From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 18:17:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20806 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20797 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA01045; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33DD4480.15FB7483@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:16:48 -0400 From: Jim Durham Organization: Dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ollivier Robert CC: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: netscape References: <19970726110901.63903@keltia.freenix.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ollivier Robert wrote: > > According to Chuck Robey: > > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd.tar.gz and > > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd2.tar.gz > > > > Anybody know what the difference is? My connection to the internet isn't > > I guess the latter is compiled for BSD/OS 2.x whereas the first is for > BSD/OS 1.1. We should be able to run both in CURRENT but I took the Linux > version instead (resolver differences, I'm not connected all time). I couldn't get the Linux version to run either. It bombed with an EMT error on FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP with the linux compat libs and the linux lkm. Jim Durham From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 19:30:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26187 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26166; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707290230.TAA26166@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26072; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707290229.TAA26072@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) From: pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: ports/4185: New port : xopps Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4185 >Category: ports >Synopsis: New port : xopps >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jul 28 19:30:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Pedro Giffuni S. >Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia >Release: 2.2.2-Release >Environment: non/relevant + "lesstif that came with 2.2.2-Release" >Description: xopps is a program to produce Gant charts, it is brought to you courtesy of JPL. It requires Motif, but I used Lesstif to build it. >How-To-Repeat: While I tried it, it was unstable, but perhaps with the right resources it works: I was tempted to label it broken, but it's probable that using displays with more than 16 colors, Motif, and some X configuration (the Xopps file) it works. >Fix: xopps.tgz in incoming >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 19:31:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26339 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26330 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id WAA19778; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id WAA10249; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:31:22 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: stdio.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:59:55 -0000." Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: <10246.870143482@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" wrote in message ID : > I noticed about half of the programs I compile have a problem with the > following line in stdio.h (v2.2.2) > > extern __const char *__const sys_errlist[]; > > If I comment it out, things are fine, but I have to regularly mess with > it. Has this been fixed in the latest and greatest...is it a big deal to > anybody else? Its a standard part of 4.4bsd and the system will likely not be changed. The programs which define it are either broken, or trying to deal incorrectly with other systems which are broken. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 20:25:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01927 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (scds.ziplink.net [206.15.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01913 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) id XAA19892 for ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 23:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 23:30:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Justin M. Seger" Message-Id: <199707290330.XAA19892@freebsd.scds.com> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ports/4118 bind8 port Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone take a look at this and commit it? Thanks, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 21:58:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08453 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08448 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <52905(3)>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:57:55 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177512>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:57:41 -0700 To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/mbone/sdr Broken... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jul 97 12:58:57 PDT." <19970728155857.22689@scsn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:57:32 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Jul28.215741pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Donald J. Maddox" wrote: > No, but I _do_ have a /usr/local/include/tk4.1/tk.h AND a >/usr/local/include/tk4.2/tk.h :-) Which one is supposed to be >/usr/local/include/tk.h ? Good question. I guess that's a question for the tk port maintainer(s). As far as I can tell, the tk4.1 port should have installed symlinks for /usr/local/include/tk.h and /usr/local/lib/tkConfig.sh, but apparently that didn't happen on your system. (Check out the "default" target in /usr/ports/x11/tk41/Makefile). Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 22:09:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09171 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09147; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <199707290509.WAA09147@hub.freebsd.org> To: mi@aldan.ziplink.net, fenner, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: ports/4173 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: autoconf-port: configure and build only happen when ``make install'' State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: fenner State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 28 22:08:04 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: This problem was the result of a build of autoconf happening for a dependency from another port. From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 22:28:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10573 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10559 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [206.246.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA26303; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:27:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Jim Durham cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: netscape In-Reply-To: <33DD4409.794BDF32@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Jim Durham wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > I noted Rip Toren's post, and since my netscape is also timing out, I went > > to look around at the netscape site. In > > /pub/communicator/4.01/4.01b6/english/unix/other I found two different > > files that might possibly be the next netscape: > > > > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd.tar.gz and > > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd2.tar.gz > > > > Anybody know what the difference is? My connection to the internet isn't > > too high-speed, so I don't want to download the wrong guy if I can avoid > > it. Thanks. > > > I downloaded and tried them both on 2.1.7 and they both bombed with > a floating point exception. You'd really have to expect that with 2.1.7, that's a little aged. I'll download and try them here. > > -Jim Durham > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 22:39:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11324 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11317 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <53167(4)>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:39:11 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177512>; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:39:05 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: dmaddox@scsn.net, fenner@parc.xerox.com Subject: Re: ports/mbone/sdr Broken... Cc: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <97Jul28.223905pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:38:58 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of course, I was looking at a port tree from before the tk4.1 port was broken on 7/7. (The comments at the top of the tk4.1 Makefile now say that it's for tk4.2. Cool.) Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 28 23:20:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14700 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 23:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14639 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 23:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02486; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:19:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA00396; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:19:48 +0200 (CEST) To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tixwish References: <199707282208.AAA01106@wall.jhs.no_domain> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 29 Jul 1997 08:19:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey"'s message of Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:08:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87bu3m8jng.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > Anyone done/doing a tixwish port ? tg:135) head -6 /usr/ports/x11/tix/pkg/PLIST bin/satixwish4.1.7.5 bin/tixwish4.1.7.5 bin/sawish4.1 bin/satclsh7.5 @exec ln -s %D/%F %B/tixwish @unexec rm %B/tixwish tg From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 00:58:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22144 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22137 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02776; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:58:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id JAA01048; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:58:30 +0200 (CEST) To: dmaddox@scsn.net Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) References: <19970728193841.26801@scsn.net> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 29 Jul 1997 09:58:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Donald J. Maddox"'s message of Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:38:41 -0400 Message-ID: <877mea8f2z.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 40 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Donald J. Maddox" writes: > It's starting to look like lots of (if not all) ports that depend on > tk4.1/tcl75 are currently broken, _if_ you have installed either recently, > because tk.h is no longer installed in /usr/local/include (where a > lot of ports expect to find it) and tclconfig.sh is no longer in > /usr/local/lib (where a lot of ports expect to find it). :-( Even tk41 seems to be broken: tg:197) cd /usr/ports/x11/tk41 tk41:198) make >> tk4.1p1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunlabs.com/pub/tcl/. Receiving tk4.1p1.tar.gz (1626000 bytes): 100% 1626000 bytes transfered in 136.4 seconds (11.64 kB/s) >> Checksum OK for tk4.1p1.tar.gz. ===> Extracting for tk-4.1.1 ===> Patching for tk-4.1.1 /usr/ports/x11/tk41/work/tk4.1p1/unix ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for tk-4.1.1 ===> Configuring for tk-4.1.1 creating cache ./config.cache checking for ranlib... ranlib checking whether cross-compiling... no checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for unistd.h... yes checking for limits.h... yes configure: error: Tcl directory /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 doesn't exist *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 01:36:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24761 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24728; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:35:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id BAA07892; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707290835.BAA07892@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rssh@cki.ipri.kiev.ua, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/3898 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: gnats is updated, and 3.01 is not on the master site State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 29 01:33:58 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: The gnats port is at 102-beta now, which looks like the latest. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 01:47:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA25282 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25272; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:46:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id BAA07988; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707290846.BAA07988@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/1939 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: exodus port doesn't build with new g++-2.7.2.1 State-Changed-From-To: open-feedback State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 29 01:40:32 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: I've looked at the MASTER_SITE but they didn't update the package since 1993. If it's no longer maintained we should probably remove the port. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 02:25:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA27767 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27708; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id CAA08331; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707290924.CAA08331@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mph@pobox.com, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/3907 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: Submission of ircII-EPIC, an enhanced ircII client. State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Tue Jul 29 02:24:07 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Imported, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 06:53:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA14018 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage.tamis.com (tamis.com [206.24.116.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14011 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daveh@localhost) by sage.tamis.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id GAA06537; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:50:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David Holloway To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new write Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a new version of write.. how do I put it in the tree? # New ports collection makefile for: nwrite-1.9 # Version required: 1.0 # Date created: 29 July 1997 # Whom: daveh # # Makefile,v 1.0 1997/8/29 14:45:01 # DISTNAME= nwrite-1.9 CATEGORIES= misc MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/daveh/ MAINTAINER= daveh@csua.berkeley.edu .include -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQBtAzNlZLYAAAEDAMgNdZzjQLVUlL2iYYC5LXU7hGjB+NB6BPL5OyFM7/iAhhIo Z/u6VCQ9I3ly8c9kYwDcKoFCwn2qmEOFjiCDHdeGoUShtUD3UASm9j0yVlpUrzpS 8i8Rz9Ug1R1YtC9oEQAFEbQfRGF2aWQgSG9sbG93YXk8ZGF2ZWhAdGFtaXMuY29t PokAdQMFEDNlZLYg1R1YtC9oEQEBRJQC/3B3/CUirR2zTi/jxkU8vA1UtCiZXH1x oaUrSpeH3YDbV7zIRNBoIIgtncPgySACdH8+ikLAegfkImcYYqSDtu+y1qslYIAL XzTX9Wk6zE1k0JEPMkkKu8uLhx3Lk7Uscw== =8hwm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 07:10:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15366 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15299 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dual (DUAL [192.187.167.136]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA23021; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970729070618.00e4ba70@mantar.slip.netcom.com> X-Sender: guest@mantar.slip.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:06:18 -0700 To: Chuck Robey , Jim Durham From: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: netscape Cc: FreeBSD Ports In-Reply-To: References: <33DD4409.794BDF32@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_870210378==_" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_870210378==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:28 AM 7/29/97 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: >On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Jim Durham wrote: > >> Chuck Robey wrote: >> > >> > I noted Rip Toren's post, and since my netscape is also timing out, I went >> > to look around at the netscape site. In >> > /pub/communicator/4.01/4.01b6/english/unix/other I found two different >> > files that might possibly be the next netscape: >> > >> > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd.tar.gz and >> > communicator-v401b6-export.x86-bsdi-bsd2.tar.gz >> > >> > Anybody know what the difference is? My connection to the internet isn't >> > too high-speed, so I don't want to download the wrong guy if I can avoid >> > it. Thanks. >> > >> I downloaded and tried them both on 2.1.7 and they both bombed with >> a floating point exception. > >You'd really have to expect that with 2.1.7, that's a little aged. I'll >download and try them here. > Someone on comp.unix.freebsd.misc made a sort of fix so you can run the new netscape. Here it is: --=====================_870210378==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # nofpe.1 # nofpe.c # Makefile # netscape4 # echo x - nofpe.1 sed 's/^X//' >nofpe.1 << 'END-of-nofpe.1' X.\" $Id: nofpe.1,v 1.0 1997/07/27 20:12:38 gordon Exp $ X.TH NOFPE 1 X.SH NAME Xnofpe - run a command with a different floating-point mask X.SH SYNOPSIS Xnofpe [-m mask] command command-args X.SH DESCRIPTION Xnofpe runs a command with the floating-point control register set Xto a specified value, usually to mask or unmask certain types Xof floating-point exceptions. The default mask is equivalent to -m= 0x37f, Xwhich masks all exceptions. You will usually want to specify the Xmask in hex, with a leading 0x. X.SH BUGS Xnofpe just sets the initial floating-point control register. XIf the running program changes it to something else, nofpe Xwill be ineffective beyond that point. X.P XThis program is hopelessly dependent on the i386 floating-point Xhardware, the layout of the registers in the U page, and Xdetails of the ptrace(2) system call. X.P XIf you've got source code to the program in question, it is Xmuch easier and faster to just call fpsetmask(3) (or Xfpsetround(3)) from within the program. X.SH STANDARDS XYou gotta be kidding!! X.SH AUTHOR XGordon L. Burditt END-of-nofpe.1 echo x - nofpe.c sed 's/^X//' >nofpe.c << 'END-of-nofpe.c' X/* X * $Id: nofpe.c,v 1.0 1997/07/27 20:12:38 gordon Exp $ X */ X# include X# include X# include X# include X# include X# include X Xint Xmain(int argc, char **argv) X{ X int pid; /* process id of child */ X int status; /* child termination/stop status */ X struct fpreg fpreg; /* floating point register set */ X int ret; X int c; /* flag character */ X unsigned long controlreg =3D 0x37f; /* fp control register */ X int error =3D 0; /* bad option */ X X while ((c =3D getopt(argc, argv, "m:")) !=3D EOF) X switch (c) X { X case 'm': X controlreg =3D strtol(optarg, NULL, 0); X break; X default: X error =3D 1; X break; X } X X if (error || (argc - optind) < 1) X { X fprintf(stderr, "Usage: nofpe [-m mask] command-path command-args= ..\n"); X exit(1); X } X X pid =3D fork(); X switch (pid) X { X case -1: /* cannot fork */ X perror("fork"); X exit(1); X X case 0: /* child */ X ptrace(PT_TRACE_ME, 0, 0, 0); /* set up tracing */ X execvp(argv[optind], &argv[optind]); /* exec command */ X exit(1); /* oops, something bombed */ X X default: /* parent */ X ret =3D wait4(pid, &status, 0, NULL); /* breakpoint at start of prog= */ X if (WIFSTOPPED(status)) X { X ptrace(PT_GETFPREGS, pid, (caddr_t) & fpreg, 0); /* get fp regs */ X /* warning, this is very dependent on register */ X /* layout in the U page */ X fpreg.fpr_env[0] =3D controlreg; /* fix control register */ X ptrace(PT_SETFPREGS, pid, (caddr_t) & fpreg, 0); /* set fp regs */ X ptrace(PT_CONTINUE, pid, (caddr_t) 1, 0); /* continue= */ X } X else X { X fprintf(stderr, "Huh? Process didn't stop\n"); X exit(1); X } X while (1) X { X ret =3D wait4(pid, &status, 0, NULL); X if (WIFSTOPPED(status)) X { X# ifdef DEBUG X fprintf(stderr, "Stopped on signal %d\n", WSTOPSIG(status)); X# endif X /* hand it back the signal, let it handle it */ X ptrace(PT_CONTINUE, pid, (caddr_t) 1, WSTOPSIG(status)); X } X else if (WIFSIGNALED(status)) X { X# ifdef DEBUG X fprintf(stderr, "Process died on signal %d\n", WTERMSIG(status)); X# endif X kill(getpid(), WTERMSIG(status)); X break; X } X else if (WIFEXITED(status)) X { X# ifdef DEBUG X fprintf(stderr, "Exit %d\n", WEXITSTATUS(status)); X# endif X exit(WEXITSTATUS(status)); X } X } X break; X } X exit(0); X} END-of-nofpe.c echo x - Makefile sed 's/^X//' >Makefile << 'END-of-Makefile' X# X# $Id: Makefile,v 1.0 1997/07/27 20:12:38 gordon Exp= $ X# XPROG=3Dnofpe XSRCS=3Dnofpe.c X X.include X XLIST =3D nofpe.1 nofpe.c Makefile netscape4 Xshar: X shar ${LIST} > nofpe.shar END-of-Makefile echo x - netscape4 sed 's/^X//' >netscape4 << 'END-of-netscape4' X#!/bin/sh X# X# $Id$ X# X XMOZILLA_HOME=3D/usr/local/netscape ; export MOZILLA_HOME Xexec nofpe ${MOZILLA_HOME}/netscape "$@" END-of-netscape4 exit --=====================_870210378==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" |==============================| | mantar@netcom.com | | Ph. (415) 681-6235 | |==============================| --=====================_870210378==_-- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 12:02:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06073 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06068 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (gozer@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10144 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:02:21 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:02:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Johan Larsson To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: vat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Uh? Why does it (re)build the gsm library then it found it? ===> vat-4.0b2 depends on shared library: gsm - found ===> vat-4.0b2 depends on: /usr/ports/audio/gsm ===> Verifying install for /usr/ports/audio/gsm >> gsm-1.0.10.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/local/kbs/tubmik/gsm/. Receiving gsm-1.0.10.tar.gz (65928 bytes): 100% 65928 bytes transfered in 1.0 seconds (62.51 kB/s) >> Checksum OK for gsm-1.0.10.tar.gz. ===> Extracting for gsm-1.0.10 ===> Patching for gsm-1.0.10 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gsm-1.0.10 ./johan -- * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer/ * * finger gozer@mother.ludd.luth.se for more information... +-+-+-+ * * Powered by FreeBSD. http://www.se.freebsd.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ * From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 12:49:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08690 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08685 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-41.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA14874 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:49:20 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) id VAA04718; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:49:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:49:22 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mush References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: ; from Jaye Mathisen on Mon, Jul 28, 1997 at 02:47:21PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jul 28, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > > I could've sworn that mush (Mail User SHell or somesuch) was in ports. But you were cautious enough not to do it ? :) > Did it get removed? No, it has never been there ... Since I was a long time user of Mush, I prepared a port, but never commited it, and switched over to Mutt long ago. > I don't need it much, but it had one nifty feature, the ability to > save a message to a file with the filename the same as the subject, modulo > a little cleanup for bogus characters. > > Very handy. Well, Mutt tries to emulate most of the features found in Mush, but seems to be of better code quality. (One reason that I gave up on Mush was its unreliability with the "unlimited number of mails" patch. Mutt never had a limit on the number of mails ...) > If somebody knows of some utility that can do this, it would be > appreciated. You can have my Mush sources (though it has been a long time since I last built a binary from them), or even a binary, if I manage to find it on an old backup :) You may want to check out the web pages at http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/ for a list of features supported by Mutt. But I already checked for the save options, and "save by subject" is not there, as of now ... But there are a number of people actively developing Mutt enhancements, and you may be able to talk one of them into adding that feature :) Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 13:07:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09606 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roguetrader.com (brandon@cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09601 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04450 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:08:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: DOSEMU port? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a port of Linux's DOSEMU? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 13:08:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09739 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09728 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.185]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA186; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:59:26 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id QAA00643; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970729160814.46708@scsn.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:08:14 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Thomas Gellekum Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970728193841.26801@scsn.net> <877mea8f2z.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <877mea8f2z.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de>; from Thomas Gellekum on Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 09:58:28AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 09:58:28AM +0200, Thomas Gellekum wrote: > "Donald J. Maddox" writes: > > > It's starting to look like lots of (if not all) ports that depend on > > tk4.1/tcl75 are currently broken, _if_ you have installed either recently, > > because tk.h is no longer installed in /usr/local/include (where a > > lot of ports expect to find it) and tclconfig.sh is no longer in > > /usr/local/lib (where a lot of ports expect to find it). :-( > > Even tk41 seems to be broken: > > tg:197) cd /usr/ports/x11/tk41 > tk41:198) make > >> tk4.1p1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunlabs.com/pub/tcl/. > Receiving tk4.1p1.tar.gz (1626000 bytes): 100% > 1626000 bytes transfered in 136.4 seconds (11.64 kB/s) > >> Checksum OK for tk4.1p1.tar.gz. > ===> Extracting for tk-4.1.1 > ===> Patching for tk-4.1.1 > /usr/ports/x11/tk41/work/tk4.1p1/unix > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for tk-4.1.1 > ===> Configuring for tk-4.1.1 > creating cache ./config.cache > checking for ranlib... ranlib > checking whether cross-compiling... no > checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E > checking for unistd.h... yes > checking for limits.h... yes > configure: error: Tcl directory /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 doesn't exist > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > tg Actually, I don't _think_ this one is broken... I believe you just have to install the (recently revived) tcl75 port before building it... From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 13:51:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12269 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12260 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA19421; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:51:18 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06863; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:49:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970729224900.DF02763@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:49:00 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: wosch@apfel.de (Wolfram Schneider) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), ports@FreeBSD.ORG, kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net (Kevin Eliuk) Subject: Re: Learn update References: <199707252302.QAA19671@time.cdrom.com> <199707261248.OAA00304@panke.panke.de> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199707261248.OAA00304@panke.panke.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Jul 26, 1997 14:48:00 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Why not make a learn port? Basically, because i think it should go into the base system some day. However, in its current state it is not really useful for users, just for people who are willing to improve it, and bring this 1979-vintage utility up to the nineties. That's why i've set up a separate CVS tree (so also people who aren't FreeBSD committers can work there). The idea is to repository-move the CVS master files later, so we don't lose the history and vendor branch. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 13:53:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12393 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12387 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <54150(3)>; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:52:18 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177512>; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:52:14 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: dmaddox@scsn.net, tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <97Jul29.135214pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:52:10 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In that case, the tk41 port should have a dependency on the tcl75 port. It did until July 10th when it was removed because the tcl75 port "is missing some files". Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 14:09:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13073 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13068 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.112]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA152; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:00:48 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id RAA00859; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970729170935.06474@scsn.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:09:35 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Bill Fenner Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <97Jul29.135214pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <97Jul29.135214pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>; from Bill Fenner on Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 01:52:10PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 01:52:10PM -0800, Bill Fenner wrote: > In that case, the tk41 port should have a dependency on the tcl75 port. > It did until July 10th when it was removed because the tcl75 port > "is missing some files". > > Bill Good point. It _is_ broken, then. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 15:11:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16324 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16309 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <53538(4)>; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:10:45 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177512>; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:10:36 -0700 To: Johan Larsson cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: vat In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Jul 97 12:02:30 PDT." Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:10:30 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <97Jul29.151036pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Johan, vat needs an extracted gsm tree since it uses private header files that the gsm port doesn't install. The newly added three-colon syntax to the _DEPENDS allows it to use the extract target instead of install; try replacing the "DEPENDS= ${GSM_DIR}" with: BUILD_DEPENDS= ${GSM_DIR}/work/gsm-1.0-pl10/inc/private.h:${GSM_DIR}:extract That way it'll only extract and not build the gsm port (and the port build messages will make it more clear why the port is being extracted even though the library is present). Bill From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 15:31:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17260 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desk.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-4-181.mu.de.ibm.net [139.92.4.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17248; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desk.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by desk.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01448; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:05:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707292205.AAA01448@desk.jhs.no_domain> To: Thomas Gellekum cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tixwish From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: jhs@freebsd.org, Fallback: jhs@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Email: Home: jhs@freebsd.org Work:stacey@caeu05.otn.lm.dasa.de X-Email-Bulk: Bulk: jhs@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ X-Company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants. X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: Phone +49.89.268616, Fax +49.89.2608126, Data +49.89.26023276 X-Tel-Work: Work +49.89.607.29788 X-Software: FreeBSD (Unix) + EXMH 1.6.9 (PGP key on web) In-reply-to: Your message of "29 Jul 1997 08:19:47 +0200." <87bu3m8jng.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:05:19 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Reference: > From: Thomas Gellekum > Date: 29 Jul 1997 08:19:47 +0200 > Message-id: <87bu3m8jng.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Hi, Thomas Gellekum wrote: > "Julian H. Stacey" writes: > > > Anyone done/doing a tixwish port ? > > tg:135) head -6 /usr/ports/x11/tix/pkg/PLIST > bin/satixwish4.1.7.5 > bin/tixwish4.1.7.5 > bin/sawish4.1 > bin/satclsh7.5 > @exec ln -s %D/%F %B/tixwish > @unexec rm %B/tixwish > > tg Thanks Thomas, I missed it because there is no 'tixwish' string in ports/INDEX. Now I know where to look, I see (2.2.2 cd): tix-4.1.0|/usr/ports/x11/tix|/usr/local|An extension to the Tk toolkit.|/usr/ports/x11/tix/pkg/DESCR|ports@FreeBSD.ORG|x11 tk41|tk-4.1|tk-4.1 -- > Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 19:20:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00244 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00220; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300220.TAA00220@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: "Pedro Giffuni S," Subject: Re: ports/4185: New port : xopps Reply-To: "Pedro Giffuni S," Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4185; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Pedro Giffuni S," To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/4185: New port : xopps Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:14:48 -0700 I just noticed this program uses enscript, which was casually ported and commited few days ago :). From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 29 23:21:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12290 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12285 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02989; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA00409; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:21:20 +0200 (CEST) To: Bill Fenner Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) References: <97Jul29.135214pdt.177512@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 30 Jul 1997 08:21:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bill Fenner's message of Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:52:10 PDT Message-ID: <87lo2pm55s.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bill Fenner writes: > In that case, the tk41 port should have a dependency on the tcl75 port. > It did until July 10th when it was removed because the tcl75 port > "is missing some files". When I updated tix ysterday evening (comitted in the meantime) I noticed that tk41 wants the tcl75 _port_, not tcl75 from the base system (someone should upgrade it in 2.2-STABLE or remove it (hi, phk)). tcl75 is also missing an entry in CVSROOT/modules. Whoever left this mess behind should fix it. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 00:50:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16655 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16647; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707300750.AAA16647@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports/4100: A new port named jp-vfghostscript-5.01 Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4100; it has been noted by GNATS. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/4100: A new port named jp-vfghostscript-5.01 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:59:28 -0700 (PDT) (Resending report to "freebsd-gnats-submit".) To: FreeBSD-gnats@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4100: A new port named jp-vfghostscript-5.01 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:48:06 +0900 From: MITA Yoshio Synopsis: Submitted port is updated. Added a new printer driver gdevnpdl. Apply this patch to the port submitted last time please. I'm also looking forward for this port to being committed :-) --- >8 -- snip -- >8 ---- diff -rcN vfghostscript5.send-pred/Makefile vfghostscript5/Makefile *** vfghostscript5.send-pred/Makefile Sat Jul 12 09:40:26 1997 --- vfghostscript5/Makefile Tue Jul 29 12:23:24 1997 *************** *** 15,21 **** ${MASTER_SITE_LOCAL} \ http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/~mita/LOCAL_PORTS/ \ http://ldl-www.jaist.ac.jp:8080/~akr/nonresearch/free-software/ \ ! http://www.jaist.ac.jp/~daisuke/Linux/gs/gs5/orig-src/ DISTFILES= ${GS_SOURCES} ${GS_DRIVERS} ${GS_FONTS_STD} ${GS_FONTS_OTHER} MAINTAINER= mita@jp.FreeBSD.org --- 15,22 ---- ${MASTER_SITE_LOCAL} \ http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/~mita/LOCAL_PORTS/ \ http://ldl-www.jaist.ac.jp:8080/~akr/nonresearch/free-software/ \ ! http://www.jaist.ac.jp/~daisuke/Linux/gs/gs5/orig-src/ \ ! http://www.bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp/~watanabe/ DISTFILES= ${GS_SOURCES} ${GS_DRIVERS} ${GS_FONTS_STD} ${GS_FONTS_OTHER} MAINTAINER= mita@jp.FreeBSD.org *************** *** 41,46 **** --- 42,48 ---- GS_DRIVERS+= gdevrpdl.tar.gz GS_DRIVERS+= gdev10v.tar.gz GS_DRIVERS+= dmprt-2.01.tar.gz + GS_DRIVERS+= gdevnpdl-1.1.tar.gz # Note: the following two are real files that have symlinks with # later version numbers pointing to them. To avoid unnecessarily # downloading distfiles, do not change these when upgrading the port *************** *** 64,69 **** --- 66,73 ---- tar xzf ${DISTDIR}/gdev10v.tar.gz ; \ ${MKDIR} ${PRINTER}/gdevdmpr ; \ tar -C gdevdmpr -xzf ${DISTDIR}/dmprt-2.01.tar.gz ; \ + ${MKDIR} ${PRINTER}/gdevnpdl ; \ + tar -C gdevnpdl -xzf ${DISTDIR}/gdevnpdl-1.1.tar.gz ; \ ${CP} gdev10v/gdev10v.c gdev10v/gdev10v.mak ${WRKSRC}; \ ${CP} gdevmjc-0.7/gdevmjc.c gdevmjc-0.7/mjc.dev ${WRKSRC}; \ ${CP} gdevlips4-1.2.0/gdevlips4.c gdevlips4-1.2.0/gdevlips4.mak ${WRKSRC}; \ *************** *** 71,86 **** --- 75,93 ---- ${CP} gdevdmpr/dviprlib.c gdevdmpr/dviprlib.h ${WRKSRC}; \ ${CP} gdevep82/gdevep82.c gdevep82/gdevep82.mak ${WRKSRC}; \ ${CP} gdevrpdl/gdevrpdl.c gdevrpdl/gdevrpdl.mak ${WRKSRC}; \ + ${CP} gdevnpdl/gdevnpdl.c gdevnpdl/gdevnpdl.mak ${WRKSRC}; \ ) @${PATCH} ${PATCH_ARGS} < ${FILESDIR}/gdev10v.mak.patch @${PATCH} ${PATCH_ARGS} < ${FILESDIR}/mjc.dev.patch @${PATCH} ${PATCH_ARGS} < ${FILESDIR}/gdevmjc.c.patch @${PATCH} ${PATCH_ARGS} < ${FILESDIR}/gdevdmpr.patch + @${PATCH} ${PATCH_ARGS} < ${FILESDIR}/gdevnpdl.mak.patch @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdev10v.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdevdmpr.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdevep82.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdevlips4.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdevrpdl.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak + @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/gdevnpdl.mak >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak @${CAT} ${WRKSRC}/mjc.dev >> ${WRKSRC}/unix-gcc.mak pre-install: *************** *** 101,106 **** --- 108,114 ---- ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevmjc-0.7/README.jis ${DOC_DIR}/gdevmjc.jis ; \ ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevmjc-0.7/MJ700V2C.FAQ ${DOC_DIR} ; \ ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevdmpr/gdevdmpr.sj ${DOC_DIR} ; \ + ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevnpdl/gdevnpdl.jis ${DOC_DIR} ; \ ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevdmpr/dmp_init.ps ${GSINST_DIR} ; \ ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevdmpr/dmp_site.ps ${GSINST_DIR} ; \ ${CP} ${PRINTER}/gdevdmpr/escp_24.src ${GSINST_DIR} ; \ diff -rcN vfghostscript5.send-pred/files/gdevnpdl.mak.patch vfghostscript5/files/gdevnpdl.mak.patch *** vfghostscript5.send-pred/files/gdevnpdl.mak.patch Thu Jan 1 09:00:00 1970 --- vfghostscript5/files/gdevnpdl.mak.patch Sat Jul 26 13:00:28 1997 *************** *** 0 **** --- 1,21 ---- + *** gdevnpdl.mak.orig Sat Jul 26 12:55:19 1997 + --- gdevnpdl.mak Sat Jul 26 12:56:59 1997 + *************** + *** 1,8 **** + ### ---------------- The NEC NPDL language printer device ---------------- ### + + npdl_=gdevnpdl.$(OBJ) gdevprn.$(OBJ) + ! npdl.dev: $(npdl_) + ! $(SHP)gssetdev npdl $(npdl_) + + gdevnpdl.$(OBJ): gdevnpdl.c $(PDEVH) + $(CCC) gdevnpdl.c + --- 1,8 ---- + ### ---------------- The NEC NPDL language printer device ---------------- ### + + npdl_=gdevnpdl.$(OBJ) gdevprn.$(OBJ) + ! npdl.dev: $(npdl_) page.dev + ! $(SETPDEV) npdl $(npdl_) + + gdevnpdl.$(OBJ): gdevnpdl.c $(PDEVH) + $(CCC) gdevnpdl.c diff -rcN vfghostscript5.send-pred/files/md5 vfghostscript5/files/md5 *** vfghostscript5.send-pred/files/md5 Sat Jul 12 09:40:30 1997 --- vfghostscript5/files/md5 Tue Jul 29 12:13:27 1997 *************** *** 5,9 **** --- 5,10 ---- MD5 (gdevrpdl.tar.gz) = 9606f3cca1a8f85be76944fa4eda09b7 MD5 (gdev10v.tar.gz) = 1486bb54c214ce215044a6c606280d73 MD5 (dmprt-2.01.tar.gz) = c7a9fb127fde5d888a798bf5e1822b88 + MD5 (gdevnpdl-1.1.tar.gz) = d456f7161c7e1983c0af9ccaead840ad MD5 (ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz) = 1e0fe2149affd80deaaae144227049b9 MD5 (ghostscript-fonts-other-4.40.tar.gz) = 703bcc5592f4b4644cda454bcc45c7d6 diff -rcN vfghostscript5.send-pred/pkg/PLIST vfghostscript5/pkg/PLIST *** vfghostscript5.send-pred/pkg/PLIST Thu Jul 3 17:23:55 1997 --- vfghostscript5/pkg/PLIST Sat Jul 26 12:45:55 1997 *************** *** 275,280 **** --- 275,281 ---- share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/doc/gdevmjc.jis share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/doc/MJ700V2C.FAQ share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/doc/gdevdmpr.sj + share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/doc/gdevnpdl.jis share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/gs_dbt_e.ps share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/gs_iso_e.ps share/ghostscript/5.01vflib/gs_ksb_e.ps diff -rcN vfghostscript5.send-pred/scripts/configure vfghostscript5/scripts/configure *** vfghostscript5.send-pred/scripts/configure Sat Jul 12 09:44:20 1997 --- vfghostscript5/scripts/configure Sat Jul 26 12:46:39 1997 *************** *** 4,10 **** if [ ! "X"${BATCH} = "X" ] ; then ! PRINTER_JAPAN=' epag300.dev epag600.dev mjc180.dev mjc360.dev mjc720.dev mj500c.dev lips3.dev lips4.dev lips4c.dev rpdlA3.dev rpdlA4.dev rpdlB4.dev rpdlB5.dev bj10v.dev bj10vh.dev dmprt.dev' sed -e "s;XINCLUDE=-I/usr/local/X/include;XINCLUDE=-I/usr/X11R6/include;" \ -e "s;XLIBDIRS=-L/usr/X11/lib;XLIBDIRS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib;" \ --- 4,10 ---- if [ ! "X"${BATCH} = "X" ] ; then ! PRINTER_JAPAN=' epag300.dev epag600.dev mjc180.dev mjc360.dev mjc720.dev mj500c.dev lips3.dev lips4.dev lips4c.dev rpdlA3.dev rpdlA4.dev rpdlB4.dev rpdlB5.dev bj10v.dev bj10vh.dev dmprt.dev npdl.dev' sed -e "s;XINCLUDE=-I/usr/local/X/include;XINCLUDE=-I/usr/X11R6/include;" \ -e "s;XLIBDIRS=-L/usr/X11/lib;XLIBDIRS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib;" \ *************** *** 122,127 **** --- 122,128 ---- "lp8000" "Epson LP8000 laser printer" OFF \ "m8510" "C.Itoh M8510 printer" OFF \ "necp6" "NEC P6/P6+/P60, 360x360 DPI resol" OFF \ + "npdl" "NEC Printer Description Language (NPDL)" ON \ "nwp533" "Sony Microsystems NWP533 laser printer" OFF \ "oce9050" "OCE 9050 printer" OFF \ "oki182" "Okidata MicroLine 182" OFF \ --- MITA Yoshio From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 03:19:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA22853 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22848 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id DAA04667; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301018.DAA04667@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: daveh@tamis.com CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from David Holloway on Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:50:11 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: new write From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I have a new version of write.. * how do I put it in the tree? Read the handbook, check your port with portlint, and send-pr with category "ports". :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 03:30:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23267 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23257; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301030.DAA23257@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports/1939 Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/1939; it has been noted by GNATS. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) To: tg@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/1939 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:20:19 -0700 (PDT) * I've looked at the MASTER_SITE but they didn't update the package * since 1993. If it's no longer maintained we should probably remove * the port. I agree. Go ahead and remove it. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 03:50:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23851 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23837; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301050.DAA23837@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Yukihiro Nakai Subject: Re: ports/4155: Fixed port: imlib-0.2 Reply-To: Yukihiro Nakai Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4155; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Yukihiro Nakai To: max@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, Nakai@elelab.nsc.co.jp Subject: Re: ports/4155: Fixed port: imlib-0.2 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:48:54 +0900 max> Although the version number of the distfile goes up from 0.1 to 0.2, I max> see no change in the shared library's version number. Are you sure re max> is no need to change it? max> max> Please read our policy on shared library version number in the handbook and reconsider if you haven't done so yet. And let us know your decision. I reread the handbook... I desided to change the shared library libIm.so.1.0 to libIm.so.2.0. A user must use new Imlib for the new enlightenment. Fixed patch is below. Please ignore the previous patch. Thanx. Yukihiro Nakai -------------- diff -ruN imlib.orig/Makefile imlib/Makefile --- imlib.orig/Makefile Wed Jun 4 08:39:10 1997 +++ imlib/Makefile Thu Jul 31 04:34:46 1997 @@ -1,16 +1,15 @@ # New ports collection makefile for: imlib -# Version required: 0.1 +# Version required: 0.2 # Date created: 10 June 1997 # Whom: Yukihiro Nakai # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.1.1.1 1997/06/03 23:39:10 asami Exp $ # -DISTNAME= imlib -PKGNAME= imlib-0.1 +DISTNAME= imlib_DR-0.2 +PKGNAME= imlib-0.2 CATEGORIES= graphics MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/s2154962/ -DISTFILES= imlib_DR-0.1.tar.gz MAINTAINER= Nakai@Mlab.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp @@ -18,6 +17,7 @@ djpeg:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/jpeg \ convert:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/ImageMagick +WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/imlib USE_GMAKE= yes USE_IMAKE= yes diff -ruN imlib.orig/files/md5 imlib/files/md5 --- imlib.orig/files/md5 Wed Jun 4 08:39:10 1997 +++ imlib/files/md5 Fri Jul 18 04:32:46 1997 @@ -1 +1 @@ -MD5 (imlib_DR-0.1.tar.gz) = ab4d7e66f893d4b695b7a4e3c982d353 +MD5 (imlib_DR-0.2.tar.gz) = 01eb2c040bae2e02c59e00e54e46a406 diff -ruN imlib.orig/patches/patch-aa imlib/patches/patch-aa --- imlib.orig/patches/patch-aa Wed Jun 4 08:39:10 1997 +++ imlib/patches/patch-aa Thu Jul 31 04:28:34 1997 @@ -1,7 +1,12 @@ -*** Imakefile.orig Fri May 9 01:33:37 1997 ---- Imakefile Sun May 25 15:32:25 1997 +*** Imakefile.orig Thu May 8 16:33:37 1997 +--- Imakefile Wed Jul 30 19:27:30 1997 *************** -*** 11,17 **** +*** 6,17 **** + /* ---------------------------------------------------------------- */ + + LIBNAME=Im +! LIBREV=1.0 + #ifdef UseEtcX11 ETCDIR=/etc/X11/$(LIBNAME) #else @@ -9,7 +14,12 @@ #endif /* def UseEtcX11 */ CNFDIR = $(ETCDIR) ---- 11,17 ---- +--- 6,17 ---- + /* ---------------------------------------------------------------- */ + + LIBNAME=Im +! LIBREV=2.0 + #ifdef UseEtcX11 ETCDIR=/etc/X11/$(LIBNAME) #else diff -ruN imlib.orig/pkg/PLIST imlib/pkg/PLIST --- imlib.orig/pkg/PLIST Wed Jun 4 08:39:10 1997 +++ imlib/pkg/PLIST Thu Jul 31 04:30:17 1997 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ lib/X11/enlightenment/im_palette.pal lib/X11/enlightenment/imrc lib/libIm.a -lib/libIm.so.1.0 +lib/libIm.so.2.0 From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 04:10:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24516 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24510; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301110.EAA24510@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Thomas Gellekum Subject: Re: ports/1939 Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/1939; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Thomas Gellekum To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/1939 Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:05:56 +0200 asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) writes: > * I've looked at the MASTER_SITE but they didn't update the package > * since 1993. If it's no longer maintained we should probably remove > * the port. > > I agree. Go ahead and remove it. > > Satoshi Any chance to mark it so that Peter doesn't remove it from the attic? Just in case it's going to be updated one fine day, ``when the Moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligned with Mars''. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 04:40:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25505 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25483; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707301140.EAA25483@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, daveh@gwythaint.tamis.com Received: from gwythaint.tamis.com (ntanet.net [206.24.116.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25259 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daveh@localhost) by gwythaint.tamis.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27013; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301134.EAA27013@gwythaint.tamis.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David Holloway Reply-To: daveh@gwythaint.tamis.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4191: new improved write Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4191 >Category: ports >Synopsis: new improved write >Confidential: yes >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 30 04:40:00 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Holloway >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 >Environment: Description: This is one of those "why didnt I think of that" type of improvements on an old standby. ports files will/have been placed in. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/nwrite-1.9.tar.gz Message from daveh on ttyp1 at 06:10:31 ... daveh> This is how nwrite appears daveh> to the recipient of the message, it is preferable daveh> to /usr/bin/write, especially on a multi user system. daveh> special options specified by a .nwriterc of the daveh> intended nwrite recipient control behaviors such as daveh> beeps, delay, and bold. daveh> Example dot nwriterc daveh> daveh> headers 1 daveh> nodelay 0 daveh> beep 0 daveh> bold header daveh> showtarg multi daveh> EOF >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 04:40:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25515 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25499; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301140.EAA25499@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports/1939 Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/1939; it has been noted by GNATS. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) To: tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/1939 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:36:10 -0700 (PDT) * Any chance to mark it so that Peter doesn't remove it from the attic? * Just in case it's going to be updated one fine day, ``when the Moon is * in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligned with Mars''. That kinda defeats the purpose of attic cleaning you know. Besides, I don't want to ask Peter for any special treatments, he has a long enough list of things to take care of as it is.... ;) If the authors come back from the House of Aquarius to actually do an upgrade, we can always resurrect the cvs files off an old CDROM or something. (Actually, I think Peter keeps a copy of deleted attic files too.) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 04:50:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25965 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25960 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id EAA04990; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301149.EAA04990@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de CC: fenner@parc.xerox.com, dmaddox@scsn.net, tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <87lo2pm55s.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> (message from Thomas Gellekum on 30 Jul 1997 08:21:19 +0200) Subject: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?) From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Regarding the Tcl/Tk port (etc.): * When I updated tix ysterday evening (comitted in the meantime) I * noticed that tk41 wants the tcl75 _port_, not tcl75 from the base * system (someone should upgrade it in 2.2-STABLE or remove it (hi, * phk)). tcl75 is also missing an entry in CVSROOT/modules. Whoever * left this mess behind should fix it. After the latest fiasco, I am strongly inclined to discontinue support of -current in the ports tree, at least until the current mess with tcl is settled. tcl80 is BETA software at the master site, it doesn't belong to -stable, it doesn't even belong to -current (IMO). It wasn't tested in the ports tree, and it doesn't even have a corresponding tk port. I intend fix the tk41 port to use the system tcl75 again, and have other ports depend on tk41 (and tcl75 in the system) or tcl76/tk42. I'll post announcements and move directories around on wcarchive (so the ports tree won't show up under FreeBSD-current). This is probably the right thing to do anyway. "Ports track -current" made sense many years ago before we split the tree into -current and -stable (it meant "ports are prepared for the next release"), but maybe not now. I intend to have the ports tree work on 2.2-stable until the final release is out (2.2.5?), so we can have the full set of packages ready for the next release. Satoshi P.S. This doesn't mean we can't put in "#if __FreeBSD_version > ..." type checks to make the ports compile on -current -- it's just that we won't go out of our way and twist our spines backwards to support having things like tcl80 in the tree. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 04:51:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA26059 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26051; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id EAA29356; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301150.EAA29356@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/1939 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: exodus port doesn't build with new g++-2.7.2.1 State-Changed-From-To: feedback-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 30 04:47:59 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Port has been deleted. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 05:00:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26398 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26386; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707301200.FAA26386@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: Thomas Gellekum Subject: Re: ports/1939 Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/1939; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Thomas Gellekum To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/1939 Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:47:50 +0200 asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) writes: > > If the authors come back from the House of Aquarius to actually do an > upgrade, we can always resurrect the cvs files off an old CDROM or > something. *POOF* tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 10:50:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19839 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19833; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707301750.KAA19833@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, bovynf@awe.be Received: from hal9000.not4u.net (pool056-81.innet.be [194.7.11.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19515 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bovynf@localhost) by hal9000.not4u.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id TAA01026; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:14:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707301714.TAA01026@hal9000.not4u.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:14:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: bovynf@awe.be Reply-To: bovynf@awe.be To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4192 >Category: ports >Synopsis: New port: Amulet >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 30 10:50:02 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Filip Bovyn >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386 >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE. >Description: Amulet is a C++ GUI library from CMU. It features a prototype-instance object system, a dialog designer and widgets with a Motif, Windows 95/NT or Macintosh look. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please commit. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 11:08:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21092 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veda.is (root@veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21051 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ubiq.veda.is (adam@ubiq.veda.is [193.4.230.60]) by veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07046; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:07:55 GMT From: Adam David Received: (from adam@localhost) by ubiq.veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) id SAA08004; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:07:52 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:07:52 GMT Message-Id: <199707301807.SAA08004@ubiq.veda.is> To: ada@not-enough.bandwidth.ORG (Ada T Lim) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nn-current / nn ports References: <199707261126.VAA05352@polya.blah.org> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Just a note to mention that it appears that the MASTER_SITE >for nn and nn-current appears to have changed slightly: >it is now at ftp.uwa.edu.au/pub/nn/old/ and old/beta Does it mean that nn itself is considered old or is there a new nn happening? If the latter, might that not rather be worth pursuing? It would seem to make better sense updating the port than adjusting it to still fetch obsolete files. Oh, the new nn is done in tk, whee! Better keep the old nn port around then, but perhaps nn-current can be replaced by tk-nn. -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 11:29:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22479 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veda.is (root@veda.is [193.4.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22469 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ubiq.veda.is (adam@ubiq.veda.is [193.4.230.60]) by veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08193; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:28:45 GMT From: Adam David Received: (from adam@localhost) by ubiq.veda.is (8.8.6/8.8.5) id SAA08049; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:28:43 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:28:43 GMT Message-Id: <199707301828.SAA08049@ubiq.veda.is> To: andreas@klemm.gtn.COM (Andreas Klemm) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out References: <19970716201748.60325@gtn.com> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I found out, that there are new apache SSLeay patches out. >FTP Directory: ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/SSL/ > README . . . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:58] 6k > README.066 . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:59] 2k > README.080 . . . . . . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 5k > SSLeay-0.6.6.patch1. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 1k > SSLeay-0.6.6.tar.gz. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 814k > SSLeay-0.8.0.README. . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 1k > SSLeay-0.8.0.tar.gz. . . . . . . [Jul 3 15:12] 968k > apache_1.1.1+1.3.ssl.tar.gz. . . [Jul 16 1996] 21k > apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz. . . [Jul 7 09:56] 24k > apache_1.2b10+ssl_1.6.tar.gz . . [May 3 21:41] 22k >Do you plan to upgrade the apache port with that changes >so that a secure server would be made possible ? And does this mean SSLeay-0.8 is needed as a separate port from -0.6.6 ? (i.e. does anything worthwhile depend on the previous version, either within the ports tree or outside of it?) :From the README: VERY IMPORTANCE NOTICE SSLeay 0.8.0 IS NOT compatible with SSLeay 0.6.6 There are various subtle and obvious changes to the library so if an application says it requires SSLeay 0.6.6, don't complain to me when you find it does not work under SSLeay 0.8 [...] eric 25-Jun-1997 -- Adam David From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 12:02:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25057 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grunt.grondar.za (odKEZr9+81erGhTtcANxJDpiqyXzDM9/@grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25021 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (Fxt3FF1RBPF/Rb20r4Yms6glHgEkcZd3@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10782; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:01:12 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (TPs7DWKrsQ8wn/4mf4kcQe4QWmsbCfvS@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03513; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:01:11 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199707301901.VAA03513@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Adam David cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.COM (Andreas Klemm), freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:01:09 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm working on this... Adam David wrote: > >I found out, that there are new apache SSLeay patches out. > > >FTP Directory: ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/SSL/ > > > README . . . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:58] 6k > > README.066 . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:59] 2k > > README.080 . . . . . . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 5k > > SSLeay-0.6.6.patch1. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 1k > > SSLeay-0.6.6.tar.gz. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 814k > > SSLeay-0.8.0.README. . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 1k > > SSLeay-0.8.0.tar.gz. . . . . . . [Jul 3 15:12] 968k > > apache_1.1.1+1.3.ssl.tar.gz. . . [Jul 16 1996] 21k > > apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz. . . [Jul 7 09:56] 24k > > apache_1.2b10+ssl_1.6.tar.gz . . [May 3 21:41] 22k > > >Do you plan to upgrade the apache port with that changes > >so that a secure server would be made possible ? > > And does this mean SSLeay-0.8 is needed as a separate port from -0.6.6 ? > (i.e. does anything worthwhile depend on the previous version, either within > the ports tree or outside of it?) > > :From the README: > > VERY IMPORTANCE NOTICE > > SSLeay 0.8.0 IS NOT compatible with SSLeay 0.6.6 > > There are various subtle and obvious changes to the library so if an > application says it requires SSLeay 0.6.6, don't complain to me when you > find it does not work under SSLeay 0.8 > > [...] > > eric 25-Jun-1997 > > -- > Adam David -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 12:37:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27876 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27857 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id NAA26520; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:36:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21129; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:38:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:38:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc Slemko To: Adam David cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out In-Reply-To: <199707301828.SAA08049@ubiq.veda.is> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Adam David wrote: > >I found out, that there are new apache SSLeay patches out. > > >FTP Directory: ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/SSL/ > > > README . . . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:58] 6k > > README.066 . . . . . . . . . . . [May 29 15:59] 2k > > README.080 . . . . . . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 5k > > SSLeay-0.6.6.patch1. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 1k > > SSLeay-0.6.6.tar.gz. . . . . . . [May 29 17:15] 814k > > SSLeay-0.8.0.README. . . . . . . [Jul 1 12:44] 1k > > SSLeay-0.8.0.tar.gz. . . . . . . [Jul 3 15:12] 968k > > apache_1.1.1+1.3.ssl.tar.gz. . . [Jul 16 1996] 21k > > apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz. . . [Jul 7 09:56] 24k > > apache_1.2b10+ssl_1.6.tar.gz . . [May 3 21:41] 22k > > >Do you plan to upgrade the apache port with that changes > >so that a secure server would be made possible ? > > And does this mean SSLeay-0.8 is needed as a separate port from -0.6.6 ? > (i.e. does anything worthwhile depend on the previous version, either within > the ports tree or outside of it?) You can use 1.2.0+ssl_1.8 with SSLeay-0.6.6 if you really want, but it is probably better to go for 0.8.1. There may well be problems upgrading it; short term it may be better to add a seperate port for 0.8.1. Note that 1.2.0+ssl_1.8 doesn't apply cleanly against 1.2.1 (or 1.2.2 when it comes out), but it is pretty easy to patch in the other parts by hand. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 12:49:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28550 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.tar.com (ns.tar.com [204.95.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28541 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppro.tar.com (ppro.tar.com [204.95.187.9]) by ns.tar.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA27906; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707301947.OAA27906@ns.tar.com> From: "Richard Seaman, Jr." To: "Mark Murray" Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 14:47:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Richard Seaman, Jr." Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:01:09 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: >I'm working on this... > >Adam David wrote: >> >I found out, that there are new apache SSLeay patches out. If its any help, I have Apache-1.2.1 compiled with SSLeay-0.8.1, using Ben Lauries patches. The patches are modified for Apache-1.2.1, but only slightly. Both SSLeay-0.8.1 and Apache+SSLeay can be compiled with or without RSAref. Both exist in a "ports" file structure, but I haven't had time to edit the PLIST file (perhaps there is a way to generate this automatically?). Also, while it all appears to work ok, it has barely been tested. If is any help, I'd be glad to tar the files up and send them to you. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 13:19:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00707 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.124.23.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00702; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id AAA16296; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:18:39 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:18:38 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= X-Sender: ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net To: Mark Murray cc: Adam David , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out In-Reply-To: <199707301901.VAA03513@greenpeace.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Mark Murray wrote: > I'm working on this... Please take in account Peter's idea of separating Apache and Apache+SSL... BTW, I don't know when he plan to make this action... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 13:20:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00876 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00833; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707302020.NAA00833@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, schweikh@noc.dfn.de Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00676; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707302018.NAA00676@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: schweikh@noc.dfn.de To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: ports/4193: all ports requiring imake fail to compile Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4193 >Category: ports >Synopsis: all ports requiring imake fail to compile >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 30 13:20:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jens Schweikhardt >Organization: DFN >Release: 2.2.2R vanilla off the CD ROM >Environment: FreeBSD 2.2.2-Release (GENERIC) absolutely fresh installed >Description: When trying to build ports from the /usr/ports/x11/* by typing 'make' every build fails due to Imake.tmpl not being found. This also happens for astro/xphoon, i.e. any port using imake. >How-To-Repeat: mount /cdrom # The 2nd 2.2.2R cd cd /usr/ports/x11/ctwm make >Fix: Apparently the X11R6 config files have moved with the new release of XFree86 so that imake -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config won't work any longer. Fixing the imake args may be the solution. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 13:23:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00999 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grunt.grondar.za (5HCyQ07jaXKyC+2l+g7FfKbBeOtIDWrI@grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00969; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (pdnlzT8dkEM7yE7CFTC2AFgI8FuNwT17@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11017; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:27 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (VRI7G5F2WOjQMysxaWyPUh1B3FYQsnHo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29365; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:26 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199707302023.WAA29365@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: Mark Murray , Adam David , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:25 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Mark Murray wrote: > > > I'm working on this... > > Please take in account Peter's idea of separating Apache and Apache+SSL... > BTW, I don't know when he plan to make this action... Will do. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 17:17:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15292 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (root@magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15287 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway (pm51-14.magicnet.net [208.6.200.15]) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA20494 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33DFD8DF.167EB0E7@magicnet.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:14:24 -0400 From: King Kaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: lesstif and ddd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI. I installed Lesstif-0.80 with NO problems. Then when I went to make ddd-2.1.1 heres the error message I recieved: # make all install ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif How do I get ddd-2.1.1 to use Lesstif?? Please email me ASAP. Thanks. KING KAOS From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 18:02:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18410 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18402 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.42]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA146; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:53:09 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id VAA00754; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970730210217.46402@scsn.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:02:17 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: King Kaos Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <33DFD8DF.167EB0E7@magicnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <33DFD8DF.167EB0E7@magicnet.net>; from King Kaos on Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 08:14:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 08:14:24PM -0400, King Kaos wrote: > HI. I installed Lesstif-0.80 with NO problems. > Then when I went to make ddd-2.1.1 heres the error message > I recieved: > > # make all install > ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif > ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif > > > How do I get ddd-2.1.1 to use Lesstif?? > Please email me ASAP. Thanks. > > > > KING KAOS Look in /etc/make.conf and change the two lines that reference Motif to look something like this... HAVE_MOTIF= yes # # If the default location of the Motif library (specified below) is NOT # appropriate for you, uncomment this and change it to the correct value. # If your motif is in ${X11BASE}/lib, you don't need to touch this line. # MOTIFLIB= -L${X11BASE}/lib -lXm From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 18:42:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21380 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (spinner.dialix.com.au [192.203.228.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA21370; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (localhost.dialix.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.dialix.com.au with ESMTP id JAA09370; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:41:17 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199707310141.JAA09370@spinner.dialix.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mark Murray cc: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= , Adam David , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache_1.2.0+ssl_1.8.tar.gz is out In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:25 +0200." <199707302023.WAA29365@greenpeace.grondar.za> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:41:16 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Murray wrote: > =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > > I'm working on this... > > > > Please take in account Peter's idea of separating Apache and Apache+SSL... > > BTW, I don't know when he plan to make this action... > > Will do. I'll try and get to this today.. We've all been suffering from Influenza Flu) here for the last few days. > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 20:18:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27404 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.senate.org (nathan@senate.org [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27392 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.senate.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA13593 for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Dorfman Message-Id: <199707310316.XAA13593@limbo.senate.org> To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: teTeX, dvips, and permissions Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When running dvips as installed by the teTeX port, I get these errors: /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm. dvips: Font cmcsc10 not found, characters will be left blank. Is it safe to suid-root dvips to solve the problem? Or is it MakeTeXmkdir? Or metafont? Or must I dvips all my TeX and LaTeX files as root? On a lighter note, does anyone know if Netscape is planning to release versions of their navigator 3.02 (yes, that's three point oh two, not 3.01 or 4.02) for BSD? They've had HP-UX, Solaris, SunOS, and Irix versions for weeks but never any others. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 20:21:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA27613 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bne16unx226.workcover.qld.gov.au (server.workcover.qld.gov.au [203.101.253.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27607; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manila.workcover.qld.gov.au (bne16unx215 [172.22.16.215]) by bne16unx226.workcover.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA15026; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:38:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by manila.workcover.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id DAA15629; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:22:13 GMT Message-Id: <199707310322.DAA15629@manila.workcover.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Please, can someone put a tk8.0b2 port into ports current? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:22:13 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I couldn't give a fig if it's beta - I think it has a place after the recent tcl8.0 merge. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of WorkCover Queensland, Australia. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 20:40:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA28420 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliffy.statsci.com (cliffy.statsci.com [206.63.206.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA28409 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bloke.statsci.com (bloke [206.63.206.184]) by cliffy.statsci.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/Hub) with ESMTP id UAA19784 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:32:03 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bloke.statsci.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/UUCP) id UAA02281 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:31:52 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from one.sabami.seaslug.org (localhost.sabami.seaslug.org [127.0.0.1]) by one.sabami.seaslug.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA01673 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310327.UAA01673@one.sabami.seaslug.org> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Subject: how to handle compiled in paths? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: <1649.870319672.1@one.sabami.seaslug.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:27:53 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi- I was just noticing something with my nmh port...it seems that the prefix is compiled into the binaries, so if you make a package out of it, you can't retarget the prefix with the pkg_add -p option (without recompilation, which kind of defeats the purpose of the package & its -p option). How is this kind of stuff normally handled? Thanx, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 22:23:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04407 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04398 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.8.6/8.7.3) id WAA05591 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199707310525.WAA05591@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: HELP: building tk41 port To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the magic incantation for buiding /usr/ports/x11/tk41 on a FreeBSD-3.0-current machine? troutmask:root[203] cd /usr/ports/x11/tk41 troutmask:root[204] make >> tk4.1p1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunlabs.com/pub/tcl/. Receiving tk4.1p1.tar.gz (1626000 bytes): 100% 1626000 bytes transfered in 17.8 seconds (89.30 kB/s) >> Checksum OK for tk4.1p1.tar.gz. ===> Extracting for tk-4.1.1 ===> Patching for tk-4.1.1 /usr/ports/x11/tk41/work/tk4.1p1/unix ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for tk-4.1.1 ===> Configuring for tk-4.1.1 creating cache ./config.cache checking for ranlib... ranlib checking whether cross-compiling... no checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for unistd.h... yes checking for limits.h... yes configure: error: Tcl directory /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 doesn't exist *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Isn't tcl7.5 a standard part of -current? From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 22:58:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06443 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06438; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id WAA14118; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310558.WAA14118@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: sysseh@workcover.qld.gov.au CC: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199707310322.DAA15629@manila.workcover.qld.gov.au> (message from Stephen Hocking on Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:22:13 +1000) Subject: Re: Please, can someone put a tk8.0b2 port into ports current? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ports-current will be discontinued -- announcement to follow later. * I couldn't give a fig if it's beta - I think it has a place after the * recent tcl8.0 merge. Whoever does the port (Chuck, didn't you say you had them working?) please include a tcl8.0beta2 port too, so they can be compiled and tested on -stable machines. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:00:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06638 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06620; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310600.XAA06620@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4192; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" To: bovynf@awe.be Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:51:09 -0700 > Amulet is a C++ GUI library from CMU. It features a > prototype-instance object system, a dialog designer and widgets > with a Motif, Windows 95/NT or Macintosh look. > > >Fix: > > Please commit. I don't see the actual port submission here. Is this PR missing something or is the submitter simply confused as to how the ports collection works? You don't just submit a description of a desired port in order to get it committed, you're supposed to submit the whole port. ;-) If that's not forthcoming then I'd like to close this PR for the time being. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:16:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07782 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07773; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Satoshi Asami Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id XAA18089; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310615.XAA18089@freefall.freebsd.org> To: schweikh@noc.dfn.de, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4193 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: all ports requiring imake fail to compile State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: asami State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 30 23:13:38 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Um, I don't think anything has moved in XFree86-3.3, I have build the full set of packages a few times since the release. Besides, we are calling "xmkmf" and not "imake" with arguments so this is not possible. Most likely, the user forgot to install the component of XFree86 that includes the imake config files (what was it again?). Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports->asami Responsible-Changed-By: asami Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jul 30 23:13:38 PDT 1997 Responsible-Changed-Why: Closed PR. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:20:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08120 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08073; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707310620.XAA08073@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, kiri@kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp Received: from kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp (kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp [202.26.248.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07823 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kiri@localhost) by kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14781; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:17:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707310617.PAA14781@kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:17:09 +0900 (JST) From: Kazuhiko Kiriyama(System administrator) Reply-To: kiri@kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4197: Update port(jp-man-doc-2.2.2d):japanese/man-doc. Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4197 >Category: ports >Synopsis: Update port(jp-man-doc-2.2.2d):japanese/man-doc. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: support >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 30 23:20:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuhiko Kiriyama >Organization: Toba National College of Maritime Technology. Department of Electronic Mechanical Engineering >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-970618-RELENG i386 >Environment: >Description: I've updated the port(jp-man-doc-2.2.2d):japanese/man-doc. Current modifications is (1) Change Makefile in order to update DISTFILE. I put the diff from ports-current(japanese/man-doc) in "Fix:". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: diff -aurN ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/Makefile ./Makefile --- ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/Makefile Thu Jul 17 21:50:12 1997 +++ ./Makefile Thu Jul 31 15:09:24 1997 @@ -1,13 +1,13 @@ # New ports collection makefile for: Japanese man documents -# Version required: 2.2.2c +# Version required: 2.2.2d # Date created: 6 January 1997 # Whom: Kiriyama Kazuhiko # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.9 1997/07/13 18:52:10 max Exp $ # -DISTNAME= jpman-${VERSION}c -PKGNAME= jp-man-doc-${VERSION}c +DISTNAME= jpman-${VERSION}d +PKGNAME= jp-man-doc-${VERSION}d CATEGORIES= japanese MASTER_SITES= ftp://jaz.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-jp/man-jp/ @@ -39,6 +39,9 @@ INSTALL_MAN="${INSTALL_MAN}" ${SH} \ ${FILESDIR}/install-man NOMANCOMPRESS .endif + +post-install: + @${CAT} ${PKGDIR}/MESSAGE pre-clean: @${RM} -f ${PKGDIR}/PLIST diff -aurN ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/files/md5 ./files/md5 --- ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/files/md5 Thu Jul 17 21:50:12 1997 +++ ./files/md5 Wed Jul 30 20:22:10 1997 @@ -1 +1 @@ -MD5 (jpman-2.2.2c.tar.gz) = 68b3a8b0aaef521f265741873d5e7527 +MD5 (jpman-2.2.2d.tar.gz) = aabe1eb002d0424183b9f9091af26f99 diff -aurN ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/COMMENT ./pkg/COMMENT --- ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/COMMENT Sat Dec 7 22:24:42 1996 +++ ./pkg/COMMENT Tue Jul 29 11:57:01 1997 @@ -1 +1 @@ -Japanese man pages (/bin,/usr/bin,/usr/ucb:man1,man8) +Japanese online manual pages corresponding to /usr/share/man/man[18] diff -aurN ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/DESCR ./pkg/DESCR --- ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/DESCR Sat Dec 7 22:24:42 1996 +++ ./pkg/DESCR Tue Jul 29 11:57:28 1997 @@ -1,2 +1 @@ -man online manual pages for man1, man8 corresponding to /bin and -/usr/bin /usr/ucb. +Japanese online manual pages corresponding to /usr/share/man/man[18] diff -aurN ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/MESSAGE ./pkg/MESSAGE --- ../../current/ports/japanese/man-doc/pkg/MESSAGE Thu Jan 1 09:00:00 1970 +++ ./pkg/MESSAGE Thu Jul 31 14:58:34 1997 @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +*********************************************************************** +* * +* Japanese online manual has been successfully installed. * +* * +* (1) First, see jman(1) with following command sequence: * +* % setenv LC_ALL ja_JP.EUC * +* % setenv PAGER jless * +* % jman jman * +* * +* (2) To get more info, please visit following web page (Japanese): * +* Jpman project * +* * +* (3) If you have any questions, comments, bug reports, suggestions, * +* and/or requests for modifications, please send e-mail to: * +* Jpman project mailing list * +* * +* When we receive your reports, we will be pleased to append your * +* name to the contributor list on the above web page with great * +* thanks. * +* * +*********************************************************************** >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:23:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08252 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08242 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09608; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA05490; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:22:45 +0200 (CEST) To: Nathan Dorfman Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX, dvips, and permissions References: <199707310316.XAA13593@limbo.senate.org> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:22:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: Nathan Dorfman's message of Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <877me791vv.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nathan Dorfman writes: > When running dvips as installed by the teTeX port, I get these errors: > /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXmkdir: could not create directory /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour > MakeTeXPK: could not mkdir /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm. > dvips: Font cmcsc10 not found, characters will be left blank. > Is it safe to suid-root dvips to solve the problem? Or is it MakeTeXmkdir? Or > metafont? Or must I dvips all my TeX and LaTeX files as root? As mentioned in the install-note you should probably `chmod 1777' all directories below /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts (`find /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts -type d -exec chmod 1777 {} \;'). See also the documentation in /usr/local/share/texmf/doc/tetex. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:41:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09481 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09469 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id XAA14649; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310641.XAA14649@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: dmaddox@scsn.net CC: kingkaos@magicnet.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19970730210217.46402@scsn.net> (root@scsn.net) Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Look in /etc/make.conf and change the two lines that reference Motif * to look something like this... The first one is ok, but you most certainly don't need to uncomment the second line. Note the "NOT" (in all caps even :). * HAVE_MOTIF= yes * # * # If the default location of the Motif library (specified below) is NOT * # appropriate for you, uncomment this and change it to the correct value. * # If your motif is in ${X11BASE}/lib, you don't need to touch this line. * # * MOTIFLIB= -L${X11BASE}/lib -lXm Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:45:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09763 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09728; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09706; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA05521; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:38:36 +0200 (CEST) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: sysseh@workcover.qld.gov.au, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please, can someone put a tk8.0b2 port into ports current? References: <199707310558.WAA14118@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:38:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu's message of Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <874t9b915g.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) writes: > ports-current will be discontinued -- announcement to follow later. > > * I couldn't give a fig if it's beta - I think it has a place after the > * recent tcl8.0 merge. > > Whoever does the port (Chuck, didn't you say you had them working?) > please include a tcl8.0beta2 port too, so they can be compiled and > tested on -stable machines. Yeah, and don't forget the proper dependencies, please. :-] tg From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:47:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09892 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09881 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id XAA14699; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310646.XAA14699@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: nathan@senate.org CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199707310316.XAA13593@limbo.senate.org> (message from Nathan Dorfman on Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:18 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: teTeX, dvips, and permissions From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * When running dvips as installed by the teTeX port, I get these errors: Run "texconfig" to turn on write permissions on those directories. The port even prints that out at the end of installation (yes, I missed it too :). * On a lighter note, does anyone know if Netscape is planning to release versions * of their navigator 3.02 (yes, that's three point oh two, not 3.01 or 4.02) for * BSD? They've had HP-UX, Solaris, SunOS, and Irix versions for weeks but never * any others. No idea. I'd love to keep using 3.x though. 4.x is way too heavy for my wimpy peecee. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 30 23:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10052 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10042 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id XAA14704; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310647.XAA14704@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: scott@statsci.com CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199707310327.UAA01673@one.sabami.seaslug.org> (message from Scott Blachowicz on Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:27:53 -0700) Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I was just noticing something with my nmh port...it seems that the prefix is * compiled into the binaries, so if you make a package out of it, you can't * retarget the prefix with the pkg_add -p option (without recompilation, which * kind of defeats the purpose of the package & its -p option). How is this * kind of stuff normally handled? It is not. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 00:00:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10800 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10764 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09841; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id IAA05560; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:59:55 +0200 (CEST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-ports@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet References: <199707310600.XAA06620@hub.freebsd.org> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:59:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <873eov905x.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > I don't see the actual port submission here. Is this PR missing > something or is the submitter simply confused as to how the ports > collection works? You don't just submit a description of a desired > port in order to get it committed, you're supposed to submit the > whole port. ;-) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ is always a good place to check, especially if the contributors have read the handbook. :-) tg From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 00:20:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA11841 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11803 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA20205; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:19:16 -0700 (PDT) To: scott@statsci.com cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:27:53 PDT." <199707310327.UAA01673@one.sabami.seaslug.org> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:19:14 -0700 Message-ID: <20201.870333554@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was just noticing something with my nmh port...it seems that the prefix is > compiled into the binaries, so if you make a package out of it, you can't > retarget the prefix with the pkg_add -p option (without recompilation, which > kind of defeats the purpose of the package & its -p option). How is this > kind of stuff normally handled? You repeat the @cwd line twice at the top of the package's PLIST, "stapling" it to the canned prefix and preventing a -p override. Not every user's desire, of course, this still at least ensures that what's installed will work and is probably the best that can be done under the circumstances. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 00:40:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13414 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13400 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10104; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:39:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.6/8.8.5) id JAA05701; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:39:41 +0200 (CEST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: scott@statsci.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? References: <20201.870333554@time.cdrom.com> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:39:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:19:14 -0700 Message-ID: <87204f8ybn.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > I was just noticing something with my nmh port...it seems that the prefix is > > compiled into the binaries, so if you make a package out of it, you can't > > retarget the prefix with the pkg_add -p option (without recompilation, which > > kind of defeats the purpose of the package & its -p option). How is this > > kind of stuff normally handled? > > You repeat the @cwd line twice at the top of the package's PLIST, > "stapling" it to the canned prefix and preventing a -p override. Not > every user's desire, of course, this still at least ensures that > what's installed will work and is probably the best that can be done > under the circumstances. I think the `-p' option should just go away. We have hundreds of ports with compiled in paths, most of which are dealt with at compile time. Splitting the ports up into those that can be moved and those that have to be recompiled is more of a pain than simply saying ``The provided packages install into /usr/local, period. Please recompile if you want another directory prefix.''. tg From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 01:37:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA18319 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage.tamis.com (tamis.com [206.24.116.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18310 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daveh@localhost) by sage.tamis.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id BAA19864; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:34:18 -0700 (PDT) From: David Holloway To: King Kaos cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd In-Reply-To: <33DFD8DF.167EB0E7@magicnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hey guess what, I just went through this as few days ago and received this wonderful message. using lesstif-0.80 cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10 gmake[1]: *** [ddd-2.1.1-i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.1] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ports/devel/ddd/work/ddd-2.1.1/ddd' gmake: *** [all] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, King Kaos wrote: > HI. I installed Lesstif-0.80 with NO problems. > Then when I went to make ddd-2.1.1 heres the error message > I recieved: > > # make all install > ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif > ====> ddd-2.1.1 requires Motif > > > How do I get ddd-2.1.1 to use Lesstif?? > Please email me ASAP. Thanks. > > > > KING KAOS > From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 01:38:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA18437 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18401; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id BAA19446; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310837.BAA19446@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4185 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: New port : xopps State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Thu Jul 31 01:36:17 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Imported, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 02:10:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA21175 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA21169; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310910.CAA21169@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4192; it has been noted by GNATS. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:05:14 -0700 (PDT) C'mon Jordan, I know you can do better than that. The port is in wcarchive's incoming area, exactly as specified in the handbook. ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 02:59:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA24314 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24307 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id CAA10512; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310959.CAA10512@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: scott@statsci.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20201.870333554@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * You repeat the @cwd line twice at the top of the package's PLIST, * "stapling" it to the canned prefix and preventing a -p override. Not * every user's desire, of course, this still at least ensures that * what's installed will work and is probably the best that can be done * under the circumstances. Um, this is not the case of "doctor, it hurts when I shoot my feet!", Jordan. ;) What he is asking is how to make ports not compile in the compile-time PREFIX into the binaries so the users can "pkg_add -p /wherever" to install the package anywhere s/he wants. (Besides, your method will defeat ports which can change the PREFIX at compile time.) The short answer is that we don't have any provisions of that currently; the long answer to that is that it may be doable (I do have some ideas), but it is very hard. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 03:00:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24435 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA24413; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311000.DAA24413@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports/3927: xview library fails on -current and on 2.2.x Reply-To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/3927; it has been noted by GNATS. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De Cc: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, frankd@yoda.fdt.net, freebsd-gnats-submit@hub.freebsd.org, lgk@eiche.bik-gmbh.de Subject: Re: ports/3927: xview library fails on -current and on 2.2.x Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:50:34 -0700 (PDT) * Thanks to Frank, Lars and Satoshi for insisting that there *is* a * bug, for hints and tests. You're welcome. Just to let you know, I rebuilt xview-lib with the latest patches, and it works fine here too (where it didn't work even with -current packages). Thanks for the fix. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 03:20:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25638 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25581; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311020.DAA25581@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4192; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:11:36 -0700 > C'mon Jordan, I know you can do better than that. The port is in > wcarchive's incoming area, exactly as specified in the handbook. ;) Then the URL should have been noted in the PR. I will amend the handbook to state this more explicitly. :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 03:20:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25710 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25644; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311020.DAA25644@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports Cc: From: bovynf@awe.be Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Reply-To: bovynf@awe.be Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following reply was made to PR ports/4192; it has been noted by GNATS. From: bovynf@awe.be To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4192: New port: Amulet Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:06:06 +0200 (MET DST) On 31-Jul-97 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >I don't see the actual port submission here. Is this PR missing >something or is the submitter simply confused as to how the ports >collection works? You don't just submit a description of a desired >port in order to get it committed, you're supposed to submit the >whole port. ;-) > >If that's not forthcoming then I'd like to close this PR for the >time being. > > Jordan The port is at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/incoming/amulet-port.tar.gz -- Filip Bovyn (bovynf@awe.be) From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 03:24:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA26033 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26022 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA05199; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:23:18 -0700 (PDT) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: scott@statsci.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:59:00 PDT." <199707310959.CAA10512@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:23:17 -0700 Message-ID: <5195.870344597@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What he is asking is how to make ports not compile in the compile-time > PREFIX into the binaries so the users can "pkg_add -p /wherever" to Erm, but that's an entirely port-dependent question, e.g. some utilities will elect to compile constants into themselves while others may elect to consult configuration files for this or figure out where the binary is being called from [ala xemacs] and derive a path from that, etc and so on. There is no sense in even trying to answer that question generally which is why I attempted to answer a different one, which was "what to do when faced with bad citizens?" ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 04:12:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29114 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29108; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id EAA21083; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311111.EAA21083@freefall.freebsd.org> To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/3924 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: de.spinne-1.0.0 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Thu Jul 31 04:10:36 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Imported, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 05:00:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA02485 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02477 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id FAA16403; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311200.FAA16403@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: daveh@tamis.com CC: kingkaos@magicnet.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from David Holloway on Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:34:18 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * hey guess what, I just went through this as few days ago and * received this wonderful message. * * using lesstif-0.80 * * cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10 Um, that's a bug in the linker (or the hardware). Of course, if people can reliably reproduce this using lesstif and ddd, that would make a very good bug report for our compilation toolchain hackers. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 05:03:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA02582 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA02577 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id FAA16411; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311203.FAA16411@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199707310525.WAA05591@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> (kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Subject: Re: HELP: building tk41 port From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * What is the magic incantation for buiding /usr/ports/x11/tk41 * on a FreeBSD-3.0-current machine? I just fixed the tk41 port. It also gets rid of stuff like the * ===> Patching for tk-4.1.1 * /usr/ports/x11/tk41/work/tk4.1p1/unix ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bogus "echo" left from the debugging stages, I guess. * Isn't tcl7.5 a standard part of -current? Yes, it used to be. However, if you have upgraded your system to a newer -current since last Friday, you are out of luck. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 06:33:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08228 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wup.de (ns.wup.de [149.237.200.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07888; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wup.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA28949; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970731152756.40658@wup.de> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:27:56 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: jfitz@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: msql 2.0.1 is out, please update port, thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 X-phone: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 161 X-fax: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 222 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 08:54:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16831 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliffy.statsci.com (root@cliffy.statsci.com [206.63.206.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16826 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from knife.statsci.com (knife [206.63.206.137]) by cliffy.statsci.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/Hub) with ESMTP id IAA28957; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:53:59 -0700 Received: from knife.statsci.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knife.statsci.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/UUCP) with ESMTP id IAA21201; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707311553.IAA21201@knife.statsci.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to handle compiled in paths? References: <199707310959.CAA10512@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> In-reply-to: <199707310959.CAA10512@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> From: Scott Blachowicz Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:53:51 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) wrote: > * You repeat the @cwd line twice at the top of the package's PLIST, > * "stapling" it to the canned prefix and preventing a -p override. Not > * every user's desire, of course, this still at least ensures that > * what's installed will work and is probably the best that can be done > * under the circumstances. > > Um, this is not the case of "doctor, it hurts when I shoot my feet!", So, maybe it's more like a case of "I shot my feet with a nail gun, but now I want to be nailed to the floor over THERE!" :-). Yeah...the only reason I noticed this is that I'd done my initial builds with a PREFIX=/usr/local/nmh-0.17, then a 'make package', then a 'pkg_add -p /usr/local' and found that my binaries had /usr/local/nmh-0.17 compiled into them.... > What he is asking is how to make ports not compile in the compile-time > PREFIX into the binaries so the users can "pkg_add -p /wherever" to > install the package anywhere s/he wants. (Besides, your method will > defeat ports which can change the PREFIX at compile time.) Unless you leave the pkg/PLIST file alone and have a rule in the 'make package' processing that doubles it up if necessary on its way into the package tar file. > The short answer is that we don't have any provisions of that > currently; the long answer to that is that it may be doable (I do have > some ideas), but it is very hard. Well...I was wondering what kinds of tools we have available at package install time. Maybe the prefix value could be compiled into a small shared object that is built by a pkg/INSTALL script, assuming that the PREFIX/lib directory can be added to the ldconfig cache or whatever? Or does FreeBSD do anything like the SunOS 5.x (SVR4?) ld -R option to put directories into the executable file and have programs to adjust a binary's library path on the fly? Or maybe using ELF formats would let you edit a section on the fly? Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 11:06:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23607 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23596 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA03641 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:05:46 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:05:46 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: nocol Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anybody's considered making nocol part of the ports collection? I've got it running nicely on 2.2.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 12:59:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29361 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29354 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.156]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA152; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:50:49 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA01151; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970731155929.22909@scsn.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:59:29 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Satoshi Asami Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, kingkaos@magicnet.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970730210217.46402@scsn.net> <199707310641.XAA14649@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199707310641.XAA14649@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 11:41:35PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 11:41:35PM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Look in /etc/make.conf and change the two lines that reference Motif > * to look something like this... > > The first one is ok, but you most certainly don't need to uncomment > the second line. Note the "NOT" (in all caps even :). > > * HAVE_MOTIF= yes > * # > * # If the default location of the Motif library (specified below) is NOT > * # appropriate for you, uncomment this and change it to the correct value. > * # If your motif is in ${X11BASE}/lib, you don't need to touch this line. > * # > * MOTIFLIB= -L${X11BASE}/lib -lXm > > Satoshi Hmmm, yeah, you're right... You don't _need_ to uncomment that line. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 13:02:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29587 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29580 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.156]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA161; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:53:36 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id QAA01172; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970731160215.57030@scsn.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:02:15 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Satoshi Asami Cc: daveh@tamis.com, kingkaos@magicnet.net, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <199707311200.FAA16403@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199707311200.FAA16403@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 05:00:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 05:00:30AM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * hey guess what, I just went through this as few days ago and > * received this wonderful message. > * > * using lesstif-0.80 > * > * cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10 > > Um, that's a bug in the linker (or the hardware). Of course, if > people can reliably reproduce this using lesstif and ddd, that would > make a very good bug report for our compilation toolchain hackers. :) > > Satoshi DDD builds and runs just fine for me with lesstif-current. I haven't tried the port, so YMMV. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 13:09:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00151 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00145 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12189; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:08:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19970731210819.46789@pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:08:19 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nocol References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan A. Zdziarski on Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 02:05:46PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 02:05:46PM +0000, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > I was wondering if anybody's considered making nocol part of the ports > collection? I've got it running nicely on 2.2.2 > We're running it here, but the last beta version that I looked at was still slightly ropey. Is it out of beta yet? Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager Email: joe@pavilion.net Pavilion Internet plc. [Tel: +44 1273 607072 Fax: +44 1273 607073] From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 14:10:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04040 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04032; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707312110.OAA04032@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, lioux@gns.com.br Received: from proxy-bsb.gns.com.br (Rsk86T+/VbiPcbpZ309SkO0M9dPMjkNW@srv1-bsb.GNS.com.br [200.239.56.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03521 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21585 invoked from network); 31 Jul 1997 20:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO srv1-bsb.gns.com.br) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 31 Jul 1997 20:58:55 -0000 Received: (from lioux@localhost) by srv1-bsb.gns.com.br (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA21580; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:58:55 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <199707312058.RAA21580@srv1-bsb.gns.com.br> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:58:55 -0300 (EST) From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Reply-To: lioux@gns.com.br To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4203: Updated port file for the perl package p5-B. Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4203 >Category: ports >Synopsis: Updated port file for the perl package p5-B. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jul 31 14:10:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira >Organization: GNS - Global Network Solutions Tec. Ltda >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386 >Environment: >Description: Updated port file for the perl package p5-B. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 21:21:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24873 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24859; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id FAA07525; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:45:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA14714; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970801054020.52998@gtn.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:40:20 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: looking for ideas to add apache modules to apache port, first results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! In the company I needed apache + php. Possibly I´ll add python as apache module as well. The question is, if we are doing many apache+xxx ports based on the apache-stable port or if we could try to ,hack´ the existing apache-stable and apache-current ports, to combine it into one by trying to set make environment variables. My final goal would be to get a functionality like in stronghold, which comes with python, fast-cgi and php support. I´d like to show you now, how I did get it managed, to add the php module for example ... Somebody so tough, to add the other ones, or an Idea, how to make things more comfortable ??? Andreas /// --------- SNIP ----------------------- DISTNAME= apache_1.2.1 PKGNAME= apache-1.2.1 CATEGORIES= www MASTER_SITES= ftp://www.apache.org/apache/dist/ \ ftp://ftp.nerosworld.com/pub/php/dist/ \ http://www.python.org/ftp/python/contrib/Web/ DISTFILES= apache_1.2.1.tar.gz \ php-2.0b12.tar.gz \ PyApache.tar.gz MAINTAINER= ports@freebsd.org BUILD_DEPENDS= ${PREFIX}/lib/libgd.a:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/gd pre-configure: echo "Don\'t forget to add ${PREFIX}/include/gd to additional path !!!" ( cd ${WRKDIR}/php-2.0b12; ./install ) ( cd ${WRKDIR}/php-2.0b12/src; make ) ( cd ${WRKDIR}/php-2.0b12/src \ && cp mod_php.c mod_php.h libphp.a ../../apache_1.2.1/src ) ( cd ${WRKDIR}/apache_1.2.1/src \ && echo "Module php_module mod_php.o" \ >> Configuration \ && echo "EXTRA_LIBS=-lmd libphp.a -L/usr/local/lib -lmsql -lgd -lm" \ >> Configuration ) post-patch: ${CP} /usr/include/md5.h ${WRKSRC}/src/md5.h post-install: @if [ ! -f ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d/apache.sh ]; then \ echo "Installing ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d/apache.sh startup file."; \ echo "#!/bin/sh" > ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d/apache.sh; \ echo "[ -x /usr/local/sbin/httpd ] && /usr/local/sbin/httpd && e cho -n ' httpd'" >> ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d/apache.sh; \ chmod 751 ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d/apache.sh; \ fi echo "AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml" \ > ${PREFIX}/etc/apache/srm.conf.php .include -- Andreas Klemm | klemm.gtn.com - powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Jul 31 23:01:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA01351 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01339; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id XAA18505; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org CC: ports@freebsd.org Reply-to: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ports-current/packages-current discontinued From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all, As I have mentioned in several places, I am now going to officially discontinue support of FreeBSD-current by the ports tree. The ports tree will now support FreeBSD-stable (the "2.2 branch"). As you know, the ports tree has always supported -current. Why change it now? Note that the "ports support -current" used to mean "ports support the next release" or "ports support the tree that is to become the next release, so we will have packages all built and ready when the release is made". It was true three years ago, when there was only one development tree (-current) that would become the next release. However, since then the tree was branched, the ports team has always been sandwiched between the need to support both -current and -stable. When the tree was initially branched, the promise was that the 2.1-stable branch was going to be short-lived and will only have one release, so we will just ship ports/packages from the previous CDROM. They will be only a few months old, and we'll move onto 2.2. Unfortunately, that didn't happen, the 2.1-stable tree lingered for almost two years until 2.2 was finally released (or 15 months since the 2.1 release), without getting any new support for ports. And we heard no end of it from the users, who upgraded from 2.1 to 2.1.5 and then 2.1.7 and still found the old moldy ports/packages in there. Or those who cvsup'd the ports tree and found that many things don't build on their system. Learning from that experience, we have tried to keep the ports tree compile both on 3.0-current and 2.2-stable when those two were branched. Many man-hours have gone into the tree for this effort, and we have succeeded to get it to work for more than half a year, despite some extensive changes in 3.0-current (like Garrett's network header updates). I have also provided a package containing the minimal set of utilities (the "2.2-stable upgrade kit") for 2.2.1R and 2.2.2R users so they can use the latest ports without even tracking 2.2-stable. Another thing I have done was to merge necessary changes from 3.0-current to 2.2-stable (e.g., install-info) to make the two systems reasonably close to each other. However, the recent rash of commits to the 3.0 branch without regards of consistency and compatibility with 2.2-stable made it necessary to make a decision. Also, it is often the case that -current doesn't even compile, which made it difficult for me to maintain a reasonable build machine. As we will have (at least) one more release from the 2.2-stable branch, it doesn't really make sense for us to follow the circus going on in 3.0-current now. We will make sure everything compiles and works in 2.2-stable, so when the next release comes out, we'll have a functional set of packgaes. (Also, people following -current are generally more capable of building stuff themselves. :) Note that the above doesn't mean we are not going to discontinue "#if __FreeBSD_version > ..." style of patches -- compatible porting in that manner has always been encouraged, and will continue to be so. (That will make it easier when we move over to that branch.) It just means that when it becomes impossible to support both branches without severe loads to our already scarce manpower and/or disgusting hacks, we will choose to support -stable. As many you have undoubtedly noticed, I am in the process of building packages for 2.2-stable and copying them to ftp.freebsd.org's new packages-stable directory. I will also move the ports tree on the ftp site from under "FreeBSD-current" to somewhere else to avoid confusion, and remove the "ports-current" symbolic link. The packages-current directory will eventually be deleted too (unless some kind soul steps forward to build them for me). This is truly a sad day. The irony of this all is that it really didn't have to happen, and it would have been possible for us to support both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable if more consideration has been made before some commits into -current. For instance, there is no reason why tcl-8.0beta2 had to go into the tree now, whether the tree is called -current or not. It is dubbed BETA of all things on the master site, and we haven't even had it in our ports area to test it. As some people have noted, there is no matching tk version in our ports tree either. The latest incident just reinforces my belief that it was a mistake in the first place to include something like tcl in the base distribution (note that it was also done without consensus back then), and one we may regret for a long time to come. Yours truly, Satoshi and the awesome Ports Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM+F7mINA0SoeCNiJAQFxCgP/ZeTbsaIXqCgPOvBImJa3FOQdUjouo6IM jmbsoYqxgJc6bYZOPDxvyRWK2ne845FjHywSyssCNfQU82qgg2Vdot0JwXoKTGm/ 5x5ZG6nHCgRjXVEsEC6SqI3Aw9iwA0vgD+dRB5LLVhCMs/BbA5ejkSyxgq+RITKG LzQ6koCTHRg= =PHTA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 00:02:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA05138 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05085; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id AAA11317; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708010701.AAA11317@freefall.freebsd.org> To: daveh@gwythaint.tamis.com, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4191 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: new improved write State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Thu Jul 31 23:59:50 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Imported, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 05:30:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17342 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gfoster.intr.net (gfoster.intr.net [207.32.93.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17337 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by gfoster.intr.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA16418; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708011229.IAA16418@gfoster.intr.net> From: Glen Foster To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will the cvs tag for the entire ports collection remain release=cvs tag=. ports-all ? From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 05:40:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17925 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA17903; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199708011240.FAA17903@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, Simon Marlow Received: from vanuata (vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk [130.209.240.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17519 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solander.dcs.gla.ac.uk (actually host solander) by vanuata with SMTP (MMTA) with ESMTP; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:30:52 +0100 Received: (from simonm@localhost) by solander.dcs.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA14055; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:30:33 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199708011230.NAA14055@solander.dcs.gla.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:30:33 +0100 (BST) From: Simon Marlow Reply-To: Simon Marlow To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4207: Upgrade cgoban port to 1.8.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4207 >Category: ports >Synopsis: Upgrade cgoban port to 1.8.0 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 1 05:40:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Simon Marlow >Organization: University of Glasgow >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386 >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: apply the following patch and run 'make makesum'... *** Makefile~ Tue Jun 3 19:48:25 1997 --- Makefile Wed Jul 30 17:13:03 1997 *************** *** 6,12 **** # $Id: Makefile,v 1.3 1997/06/03 18:48:25 max Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= cgoban-1.7.1 CATEGORIES= games MASTER_SITES= ftp://igs.nuri.net/Go/clients/ --- 6,12 ---- # $Id: Makefile,v 1.3 1997/06/03 18:48:25 max Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= cgoban-1.8.0 CATEGORIES= games MASTER_SITES= ftp://igs.nuri.net/Go/clients/ >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 06:15:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA19307 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19302; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:15:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gellekum Received: (from tg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id GAA13266; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708011313.GAA13266@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simonm@dcs.gla.ac.uk, tg@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/4207 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Synopsis: Upgrade cgoban port to 1.8.0 State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: tg State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 1 06:13:18 PDT 1997 State-Changed-Why: Port upgraded, thanks. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 07:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA22828 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22823 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA13477; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:34:41 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:34:41 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Josef Karthauser cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nocol In-Reply-To: <19970731210819.46789@pavilion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The most stable version is 4.01 - which is not beta. I know they're making a 4.02 or a 4.2b but it's still in beta. Putting 4.01 in the port would probably be the best idea, as it's the last stable version. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Server Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Josef Karthauser wrote: :On Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 02:05:46PM +0000, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: :> I was wondering if anybody's considered making nocol part of the ports :> collection? I've got it running nicely on 2.2.2 :> : :We're running it here, but the last beta version that I looked at was :still slightly ropey. Is it out of beta yet? : :Joe :-- :Josef Karthauser :Technical Manager Email: joe@pavilion.net :Pavilion Internet plc. [Tel: +44 1273 607072 Fax: +44 1273 607073] : From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 09:47:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28622 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [207.108.223.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28616 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.108.223.153]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21906 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11750 for ports@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708011646.JAA11750@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from Satoshi Asami at "Jul 31, 97 11:01:28 pm" To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:46:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Satoshi Asami: -- Start of PGP signed section. [[ support of -current only ]] -- End of PGP signed section. The reason that things got out of sync in the devel world is probably the exhuberation that the FBSD kind of effort involves. Good and bad. Your decision to restrict the `ports' support seems wise to me. Different if this were a large for-profit effort, but since most is volunteer it makes sense. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 09:59:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29203 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29193 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:20 -0700 (PDT) From: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Received: by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.6/1.35) id JAA09126; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708011657.JAA09126@george.arc.nasa.gov> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is truly a sad day. The irony of this all is that it really > didn't have to happen, and it would have been possible for us to > support both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable if more consideration has been > made before some commits into -current. For instance, there is no : Since I am running both 2.2 and 3.0-current, I am indeed sorry to hear this. I hope that it turns out to be a temporary condition. Obviously, 2.2-stable has to continue to be supported, but, mention has been made of past releases such as 2.0.5, 2.1, 2.1.5, and 2.1.7. Personally, I think it is time to "de-support" these. Obviously, many people will continue to run some of them for a long time, but 2.2 should be a doable upgrade for almost everyone. If people are getting stretched too thin, it is time to focus on 2.2. [And 3.0, if it can again be made to work.] > Yours truly, > Satoshi and the awesome Ports Team The state of the awesome ports and packages, the ease of installation of them, and the integration of those packages with the kernel(s), were the reasons why I personally chose FreeBSD over linux or NetBSD. As a FreeBSD newbie, it appears to me that only FreeBSD has a server-quality kernel *combined* with a clean and integrated set of almost all the packages a Unix die-hard expects - and, usually, expects to have to build personally. IF you care mainly about the kernel, NetBSD is a more than credible effort. IF you care mainly about lots of packages, linux is the competition. NetBSD and linux have put a lot of effort into clean support of many architectures, an effort I wholeheartedly applaud, but, in the meantime, FreeBSD's focus on x86 has facilitated the off-the-shelf ports/packages, a major advantage for some of us. So, thanks from a grateful FreeBSD user to the ports/packages team for their fine efforts in the past, and, I hope that any disagreements are temporary and can be patched up over a few beers at some local watering hole. Hugh LaMaster Apologies in advance for any misinformation contained herein. Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 10:35:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01393 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01336; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id SAA19408; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:30:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA07707; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:24:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970801182448.26268@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:24:48 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: ports@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued References: <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 11:01:28PM -0700 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 11:01:28PM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > We will make sure everything compiles and > works in 2.2-stable, so when the next release comes out, we'll have a > functional set of packgaes. (Also, people following -current are > generally more capable of building stuff themselves. :) But unable to build really working 2.2 packages, because they only have -current :-/ > This is truly a sad day. The irony of this all is that it really > didn't have to happen, and it would have been possible for us to > support both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable if more consideration has been > made before some commits into -current. Well, wouldn´t it make more sense to discuss, to back out the changes that introduces these problems ? Very very sad is, that in my eyes tcl 8.x brings us really _nothing_ from the Operating systems view, but finally it breaks the whole concept, that -current ports can be used in 99% of cases in 2.2 and -current. We want to improve the Operating System -> that´s FreeBSD, not compete with Linux to pickup the last bits and bytes, that break something. Why was TCL not brought into the ports collection ??? We already have several TCL versions there for backward compatibility ... why not put the newest stuff into there with respect to the problems. that now arise ? Generally we had the policy, to use the ports collection for new stuff, that belongs to FreeBSD. I think it´s time to re-think, what really belongs into the operating system and what not ... Wouln´t it be better to come to a decision, that such things like perl and tcl, _if_ they are needed in the base system, should be of the same version in -current and -stable ?! > For instance, there is no reason why tcl-8.0beta2 had to go > into the tree now, whether the tree is called -current or not. I fully agree, if I read now the big _disadvantages_ > It is dubbed BETA of all things on the master site, and we haven't > even had it in our ports area to test it. Then I´d vote "back it out!" ;-) > As some people have noted, there is no matching tk version in our > ports tree either. The latest incident just reinforces my belief that > it was a mistake in the first place to include something like tcl in > the base distribution (note that it was also done without consensus > back then), and one we may regret for a long time to come. I think it´s time to "purify" our sources. I think it´s a bad idea, to have only a ports collection based on -STABLE. Ports should at least run with -STABLE and -CURRENT. I only run -current, create ports myself and I´m unable to build up a -STABLE system to test my ports for 2.2-STABLE systems. And I don´t want to go back to -STABLE, because I have a SMP system and like the bleeding edge more ... I´d like to say "peope, let´s try to find a way out of this mess" .... Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm | klemm.gtn.com - powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 11:35:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04701 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.anasazi.com (mailhost.anasazi.com [138.113.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04679; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chad.anasazi.com by mailhost.anasazi.com (5.65/3.7b) id AA26033; Fri, 1 Aug 97 11:34:06 -0700 Received: by chad.anasazi.com (5.65/3.7) id AA16893; Fri, 1 Aug 97 11:34:03 -0700 From: chad@anasazi.com (Chad R. Larson) Message-Id: <9708011834.AA16893@chad.anasazi.com> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:34:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970801182448.26268@klemm.gtn.com> from "Andreas Klemm" at Aug 1, 97 06:24:48 pm Reply-To: chad@anasazi.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, Jul 31, 1997 at 11:01:28PM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > > We will make sure everything compiles and > > works in 2.2-stable, so when the next release comes out, we'll have a > > functional set of packgaes. (Also, people following -current are > > generally more capable of building stuff themselves. :) > > > > [reference to TCL/TK deleted] > > It is dubbed BETA of all things on the master site, and we haven't > > even had it in our ports area to test it. > > Then I=B4d vote "back it out!" ;-) I'd second that. I'd like to see the "Release" of FreeBSD to contain the core system. User contributed stuff should all be integrated through the ports process. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-870-3330 chad@anasazi.com chad@anasaz.UUCP chad@dcfinc.com Anasazi, Inc. - 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120, Phoenix, Az 85020 From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 14:36:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13780 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13774 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28249 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20755 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: ports@freebsd.com Subject: Hardcode uucp UID in ports, or is there some way to determine it? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm working on my second port, which is progressing much more nicely than my first. The questions I have concern the fact that qpage runs as root, and switches to a different UID and optionally GID for normal operations. I'm pretty sure this means I can use uucp UID, or daemon UID/dialer GID. I'm favoring the second, but I want to make sure this works within the greater scheme of things. Which UID or UID/GID combination is best for a daemon process that forks copies of itself to open modems? The second question is, I need to feed the UID, and GID if used, to the Makefile. Do I assume that all FreeBSD systems have the same IDs for what I have selected, or is there a way to extract this in the Makefile. I thought I had seen this discussed here before, but I couldnt' find it in the archives. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 15:11:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15155 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15139 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28308 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA08384; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708012211.PAA08384@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: ejs@bfd.com CC: ports@freebsd.com In-reply-to: (ejs@bfd.com) Subject: Re: Hardcode uucp UID in ports, or is there some way to determine it? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I'm pretty sure this means I can use uucp UID, or daemon UID/dialer GID. * I'm favoring the second, but I want to make sure this works within the * greater scheme of things. Which UID or UID/GID combination is best for a * daemon process that forks copies of itself to open modems? I think that's the job of "dialer" group. * The second question is, I need to feed the UID, and GID if used, to the * Makefile. Do I assume that all FreeBSD systems have the same IDs for what * I have selected, or is there a way to extract this in the Makefile. I * thought I had seen this discussed here before, but I couldnt' find it in * the archives. Well, user/group "uucp" and group "dialer" are parts of the standard installation, so I think you can assume they are fixed. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 22:27:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA02947 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02927 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id BAA01592; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 01:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id BAA25248; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 01:25:05 -0400 (EDT) To: David Holloway cc: King Kaos , ports@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: lesstif and ddd In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:34:18 PDT." Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 01:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <25246.870499505@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Holloway wrote in message ID : > hey guess what, I just went through this as few days ago and > received this wonderful message. > > using lesstif-0.80 > > cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 10 I got it to compile, but once it was actually running it repeatedly exited abnormally, pretty much rendering ddd useless. I gave up and went back to the command line gdb. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 02:04:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA11923 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11916 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA20984; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:03:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca30-16.ix.netcom.com(204.31.235.176) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020962; Sat Aug 2 04:03:08 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by blimp.mimi.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) id CAA11097; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708020903.CAA11097@blimp.mimi.com> To: gfoster@gfoster.com CC: ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708011229.IAA16418@gfoster.intr.net> (message from Glen Foster on Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:29:55 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Will the cvs tag for the entire ports collection remain * * release=cvs tag=. * ports-all Yes. We never had branches in the ports tree...it is more like the doc or www collections. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 02:25:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13598 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (root@labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13584 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by labs.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00380 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:25:21 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708020925.TAA00380@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:01:28 MST." <199708010601.XAA18505@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:25:20 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As many you have undoubtedly noticed, I am in the process of building > packages for 2.2-stable and copying them to ftp.freebsd.org's new > packages-stable directory. I will also move the ports tree on the ftp > site from under "FreeBSD-current" to somewhere else to avoid > confusion, and remove the "ports-current" symbolic link. The > packages-current directory will eventually be deleted too (unless some > kind soul steps forward to build them for me). Someone mentioned recently that thud is being rebuilt and will be put on-line with some version of -current. If this is the case, I'll be happy to take on this task there. I'm assuming it is a case of building and finding out where it falls over and fixing it, correct? > This is truly a sad day. The irony of this all is that it really > didn't have to happen, and it would have been possible for us to > support both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable if more consideration has been > made before some commits into -current. For instance, there is no > reason why tcl-8.0beta2 had to go into the tree now, whether the tree > is called -current or not. It is dubbed BETA of all things on the > master site, and we haven't even had it in our ports area to test it. > As some people have noted, there is no matching tk version in our > ports tree either. The latest incident just reinforces my belief that > it was a mistake in the first place to include something like tcl in > the base distribution (note that it was also done without consensus > back then), and one we may regret for a long time to come. I thought we were ramping up to remove it. You can imagine my surprise to see the 8.0 beta committed. :-/ I guess, my first task, should I decide to accept it, is to figure out how to cope with tcl8 in the source tree and tcl7.5 in ports. Regards, David From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 02:28:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13874 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13814; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA10704; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca30-16.ix.netcom.com(204.31.235.176) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010692; Sat Aug 2 04:27:28 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by blimp.mimi.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) id CAA11125; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708020927.CAA11125@blimp.mimi.com> To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com CC: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970801182448.26268@klemm.gtn.com> (message from Andreas Klemm on Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:24:48 +0200) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * But unable to build really working 2.2 packages, because they * only have -current :-/ Well, I'll be doing thot from now on. Watch packages-stable on your nearest mirror site -- other than building packages for new/upgraded ports, I've been recompiling the entire tree every month or so, and that will still continue after switching to -stable. * Well, wouldn't it make more sense to discuss, to back out the * changes that introduces these problems ? You are absolutely right. * Why was TCL not brought into the ports collection ??? * We already have several TCL versions there for backward * compatibility ... why not put the newest stuff into there * with respect to the problems. that now arise ? Beats me. ;) * Wouln't it be better to come to a decision, that such * things like perl and tcl, _if_ they are needed in the * base system, should be of the same version in -current * and -stable ?! That's a big "if" there. I think the latest incident are making many people wonder "is it really worth having tcl in the base tree?". The problem with tcl is that it changes too much and often new versions are not backwards compatible with the old ones. It's not much of a problem if it isn't such an essential part of the FreeBSD environment -- but it is, and there are so many ports that depend on a particular version of tcl, it is simply too much of a pain to have "the" version in the base system yank the ports around every time it is upgraded. (The last non-continuation occurred between tcl73/tk36 and tcl74/tk40 -- but at that time, tcl was not part of the base tree so we could deal with it entirely in the ports side.) There are only two ways out of this, as far as I can tell; remove tcl from the base system (pst has done most of the work for this), or completely ignore the one in the base system and always use tcl from the ports collection (I'm not sure how hard this is -- we may need an enhanced version of LIB_DEPENDS or something). * Ports should at least run with -STABLE and -CURRENT. I only run Absolutely. I (and many others) have spend much time and effort on this; I would like to continue doing so. Satoshi P.S. By the way, every single one of the packages (that worked for -current) still compiled cleanly after I switched to -stable; the only ones that broke since my last -current build (about two weeks ago) was tk41 (broken by half-baked upgrade/switch of dependency, since fixed) and tclX75 (broken by tk41, haven't figured this one out yet). From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 02:50:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15361 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15345; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199708020950.CAA15345@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, mita@jp.FreeBSD.org Received: from hanpen.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (hanpen.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.109.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15220 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mita@localhost) by hanpen.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08424; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:32:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708010732.QAA08424@hanpen.fujita3.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:32:53 +0900 (JST) From: mita@jp.FreeBSD.org Reply-To: mita@jp.FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4210: japanese/tgif port is updated. Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4210 >Category: ports >Synopsis: japanese/tgif port is updated. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: support >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 2 02:50:00 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: MITA Yoshio >Organization: IIS, the University of Tokyo, JAPAN. >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 >Environment: 2.2.1-RELEASE + current bsd.port* >Description: japanese/tgif port is updated from version 2.16p12 to 3.0p13. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply this patch and remove patches/patch-ab patches/patch-ac, please. diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/Makefile japanese/tgif/Makefile *** japanese/tgif.current/Makefile Mon Nov 18 09:54:08 1996 --- japanese/tgif/Makefile Fri Aug 1 09:39:58 1997 *************** *** 1,21 **** # New ports collection makefile for: tgif-j ! # Version required: 2.16.12 # Date created: 8 Dec 1995 # Whom: Mita Yoshio # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1996/11/18 09:54:08 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= tgif-2.16-p12 ! PKGNAME= jp-tgif-216-p12 CATEGORIES= japanese MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_XCONTRIB} MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= applications/tgif ! PATCH_SITES= ftp://ftp.eos.hokudai.ac.jp/pub/X/contrib/misc/tgif/ ! PATCHFILES= tgif-2.16-p12.jp.gz \ ! tgif-2.16-p12.jp.kinput2over-the-spotpatch ! PATCH_DIST_STRIP= -p1 MAINTAINER= mita@jp.FreeBSD.org --- 1,19 ---- # New ports collection makefile for: tgif-j ! # Version required: 3.0.13 # Date created: 8 Dec 1995 # Whom: Mita Yoshio # # $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1996/11/18 09:54:08 asami Exp $ # ! DISTNAME= tgif-3.0-p13 ! PKGNAME= jp-tgif-30-p13 CATEGORIES= japanese MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_XCONTRIB} MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= applications/tgif ! PATCH_SITES= ftp://ftp.mei.co.jp/free/X11/X/applications/drawing/tgif/ ! PATCHFILES= tgif-3.0J0.12-p13-patch.gz MAINTAINER= mita@jp.FreeBSD.org *************** *** 27,31 **** --- 25,30 ---- xpmtoppm:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/netpbm USE_IMAKE= yes + PATCH_DIST_STRIP= -p1 .include diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/files/md5 japanese/tgif/files/md5 *** japanese/tgif.current/files/md5 Thu Feb 1 06:47:42 1996 --- japanese/tgif/files/md5 Fri Aug 1 15:56:59 1997 *************** *** 1,3 **** ! MD5 (tgif-2.16-p12.tar.gz) = f6eae5e52fd1a9772d2e33bbd6425308 ! MD5 (tgif-2.16-p12.jp.gz) = 919d48ee21f43a374959c2633ede4851 ! MD5 (tgif-2.16-p12.jp.kinput2over-the-spotpatch) = f64ce166984fd8a38a032758bd319b68 --- 1,2 ---- ! MD5 (tgif-3.0-p13.tar.gz) = d862c6bdf9c4e0f3852fdfe8646e50fc ! MD5 (tgif-3.0J0.12-p13-patch.gz) = 399e09ddb139a4840fa83de9307aee20 diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-aa japanese/tgif/patches/patch-aa *** japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-aa Thu Feb 1 06:47:41 1996 --- japanese/tgif/patches/patch-aa Mon Jul 21 22:53:40 1997 *************** *** 1,12 **** ! diff -u copypaste.c.orig copypaste.c ! --- copypaste.c.orig Mon Nov 6 23:03:10 1995 ! +++ copypaste.c Mon Nov 6 23:09:02 1995 ! @@ -158,7 +158,7 @@ ! } ! ! if (cutBuffer != NULL) cfree (cutBuffer); ! - cutBuffer = (char *) calloc (stat.st_size+1, sizeof(char)); ! + cutBuffer = (char *) calloc ((size_t) stat.st_size+1, sizeof(char)); ! ! rewind(fp); ! if (read (fileno(fp), cutBuffer, stat.st_size) < stat.st_size) --- 1,19 ---- ! *** Imakefile.orig Mon Jul 21 22:52:14 1997 ! --- Imakefile Mon Jul 21 22:52:25 1997 ! *************** ! *** 87,93 **** ! LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XLIB) ! XCOMM LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XMULIB) $(XTOOLLIB) $(XLIB) ! DEPLIBS = $(DEPXLIB) ! ! SYS_LIBRARIES = -lm ! ! XCOMM -D_NO_GETTIMEOFDAY ! XCOMM Include the above line if you do not have the gettimeofday() ! --- 87,93 ---- ! LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XLIB) ! XCOMM LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XMULIB) $(XTOOLLIB) $(XLIB) ! DEPLIBS = $(DEPXLIB) ! ! SYS_LIBRARIES = -lm -lcompat ! ! XCOMM -D_NO_GETTIMEOFDAY ! XCOMM Include the above line if you do not have the gettimeofday() diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-ab japanese/tgif/patches/patch-ab *** japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-ab Thu Feb 1 06:47:41 1996 --- japanese/tgif/patches/patch-ab Thu Jan 1 09:00:00 1970 *************** *** 1,31 **** - --- Imakefile.orig Fri Dec 8 18:53:30 1995 - +++ Imakefile Mon Dec 11 16:29:05 1995 - @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ - #endif - #endif - - -TGIFVERSION = 2.16-p12 - +TGIFVERSION = 2.16J-p12 - PROGRAMS = tgif prtgif XCOMM frontend11.o testdrive - XCOMM CDEBUGFLAGS= -g - XCOMM INSTPGMFLAGS= -s - @@ -63,8 +63,8 @@ - -DTEXT_FILE_EXT=\"txt\" \@@\ - -DTELEPORT_ATTR=\"warp_to=\" -DTMP_DIR=\"/tmp/\" \@@\ - -DLAUNCH_ATTR=\"launch=\" -DEXEC_ATTR=\"exec=\" \@@\ - - -DA4PAPER -DUSE_FLUSH_COLORMAP -DUSE_QUICKWARP $(XIMDEFINES) - - - + -DA4PAPER -DUSE_FLUSH_COLORMAP -DUSE_QUICKWARP $(XIMDEFINES)\ - + -D_USE_XDRAWPOINT_TO_PUT_A_POINT - XCOMM Things to try to add to the DEFINES line above: - XCOMM - XCOMM RS6000: -D_BSD - @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ - LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XLIB) - XCOMM LOCAL_LIBRARIES = $(XMULIB) $(XTOOLLIB) $(XLIB) - DEPLIBS = $(DEPXLIB) - -SYS_LIBRARIES = -lm - +SYS_LIBRARIES = -lm -lcompat - - XCOMM -D_NO_GETTIMEOFDAY - XCOMM Include the above line if you do not have the gettimeofday() --- 0 ---- diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-ac japanese/tgif/patches/patch-ac *** japanese/tgif.current/patches/patch-ac Sat Oct 19 03:25:12 1996 --- japanese/tgif/patches/patch-ac Thu Jan 1 09:00:00 1970 *************** *** 1,128 **** - *** ps.c.orig Fri Oct 18 13:16:52 1996 - --- ps.c Fri Oct 18 13:18:39 1996 - *************** - *** 246,259 **** - }; - - static char *psKanjiFontMacro[] = - ! { "%", - "%%Title: eucfont.ps", - "%%Creator: shikida@cs.titech.ac.jp, ueno@cs.titech.ac.jp", - "%%CreationDate: 1991-2-27", - "%%EndComments", - ! "", - ! "% copyfont ", - ! "/copyfont {", - " dup maxlength 1 add dict begin", - " {", - " 1 index /FID ne 2 index /UniqueID ne and", - --- 246,289 ---- - }; - - static char *psKanjiFontMacro[] = - ! { - "%%Title: eucfont.ps", - + "% old eucfont.ps(OCFeucfont) and new eucfont.ps(CIDeucfont) were combined.", - + "% 1996-09, kawamata@sra.co.jp", - + "% Sample Usage:", - + "% Operands are only font names permitted. Don't put fontdict itself.", - + "% /Courier-Ryumin /Courier /Ryumin-Light-EUC-V eucfont", - + "", - + "%%Title: CIDeucfont.ps", - + "%%Creator: yohtaki@cis.ibaraki.ac.jp", - + "%%CreationDate: 1996-9-29", - + "%%EndComments", - + "%", - + "% CIDeucfont", - + "/CIDeucfont {", - + "dup findfont /WMode get 1 eq 4 1 roll % push direction info.", - + "12 dict begin", - + " /CIDInit /ProcSet findresource begin", - + " exch [ 3 1 roll ] beginrearrangedfont", - + " 3 -1 roll { % pop direction info", - + " /WMode 1 def % vertical font", - + " 0 beginusematrix [ 0 1 -1 0 0 0.3 ] endusematrix", - + " } if", - + " 1 usefont", - + " 1 beginbfrange", - + " <00> <7F> <00>", - + " endbfrange", - + " endrearrangedfont", - + " end", - + "end", - + "} def", - + "", - + "%%Title: OCFeucfont.ps", - "%%Creator: shikida@cs.titech.ac.jp, ueno@cs.titech.ac.jp", - "%%CreationDate: 1991-2-27", - "%%EndComments", - ! "% OCFcopyfont ", - ! "/OCFcopyfont {", - " dup maxlength 1 add dict begin", - " {", - " 1 index /FID ne 2 index /UniqueID ne and", - *************** - *** 262,271 **** - " currentdict", - " end", - "} bind def", - ! "", - ! "% eucfont", - ! "/eucfont {", - ! " 12 dict begin", - " dup type /nametype eq { findfont } if", - " dup /WMode known {", - " dup /WMode get /WMode exch def", - --- 292,300 ---- - " currentdict", - " end", - "} bind def", - ! "% OCFeucfont", - ! "/OCFeucfont {", - ! " 12 dict begin", - " dup type /nametype eq { findfont } if", - " dup /WMode known {", - " dup /WMode get /WMode exch def", - *************** - *** 273,279 **** - " [0.0 1.0 -1.0 0.0 0.0 0.30] makefont", - " } if", - " } if", - ! " copyfont dup begin", - " /Encoding Encoding", - " FMapType dup 2 eq {", - " pop 128 128", - --- 302,308 ---- - " [0.0 1.0 -1.0 0.0 0.0 0.30] makefont", - " } if", - " } if", - ! " OCFcopyfont dup begin", - " /Encoding Encoding", - " FMapType dup 2 eq {", - " pop 128 128", - *************** - *** 303,308 **** - --- 332,344 ---- - " definefont pop", - "} def", - "", - + "% eucfont", - + "/eucfont {", - + " dup findfont", - + " /FMapType get 9 eq", - + " { CIDeucfont}", - + " { OCFeucfont} ifelse", - + "} def", - NULL - }; - - *************** - *** 319,325 **** - " {", - "% dup 0.01 lt { pop 0.01 } if", - " } bind def", - - "", - NULL - }; - - --- 355,360 ---- --- 0 ---- diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/pkg/DESCR japanese/tgif/pkg/DESCR *** japanese/tgif.current/pkg/DESCR Thu Feb 1 06:47:42 1996 --- japanese/tgif/pkg/DESCR Fri Aug 1 16:01:36 1997 *************** *** 1,6 **** tgif-j is Xlib based interactive 2-D drawing facility under X11. It can put out ps, eps, gif, xbm files. ! Japanese input is also available by means of kinput2. ! Japanese over the spot conversion patch is also applied so that ! inline kana-kanji conversion is available. ! see /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/JAPANESE for more information. --- 1,7 ---- tgif-j is Xlib based interactive 2-D drawing facility under X11. It can put out ps, eps, gif, xbm files. ! Japanese input is also available by means of kinput or kinput2. ! Over-the-spot kana-kanji conversion is available by setting X resource: ! Tgif*PreeditType: OverTheSpot ! ! see /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/ for more information. diff -rcN --exclude=CVS japanese/tgif.current/pkg/PLIST japanese/tgif/pkg/PLIST *** japanese/tgif.current/pkg/PLIST Thu Feb 1 06:47:42 1996 --- japanese/tgif/pkg/PLIST Fri Aug 1 16:21:49 1997 *************** *** 1,19 **** bin/tgif bin/prtgif man/man1/tgif.1.gz ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/HISTORY.jp ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/JAPANESE ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/JAPANESE.ms ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/README.jp ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/SCALABLE ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/SCALABLE.ms ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/TO_USERS ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/TO_USERS.ms ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/keys.obj ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/keys_jpn.obj ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tangram.sym ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tgif.Xdefaults ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tgificon.eps ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tgificon.obj ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tgificon.xbm ! lib/X11/tgif/2.16J-p12/tgificon.xpm --- 1,24 ---- bin/tgif bin/prtgif + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tgif.Xdefaults + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tgificon.eps + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tgificon.obj + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tgificon.xbm + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tgificon.xpm + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/tangram.sym + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/keys.obj + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/keys_jpn.obj + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/SCALABLE.ms + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/SCALABLE + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/JAPANESE.ms + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/JAPANESE + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/TO_USERS.ms + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/TO_USERS + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/HISTORY.jp + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/HISTORY-3.0.jp + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/README.jp + lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13/README-3.0.jp man/man1/tgif.1.gz ! man/man1/prtgif.1.gz ! @dirrm lib/X11/tgif/3.0J0.12-p13 ! @dirrm lib/X11/tgif --- MITA Yoshio >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 03:02:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15706 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15700 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA00491; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:02:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca30-16.ix.netcom.com(204.31.235.176) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000467; Sat Aug 2 05:01:55 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by blimp.mimi.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) id DAA11295; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708021001.DAA11295@blimp.mimi.com> To: davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199708020925.TAA00380@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> (message from David Nugent on Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:25:20 +1000) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Someone mentioned recently that thud is being rebuilt and will be * put on-line with some version of -current. If this is the case, I'll * be happy to take on this task there. I'm assuming it is a case of * building and finding out where it falls over and fixing it, correct? You are correct. Actually, as I just mentioned in the other message, if you build the ports on the pre-tcl-8.0beta2-current system, everything will just work. (Everything except flat-out broken stuff, I mean.) By the way, I think David (O'Brien, that is) is also interested, he raised his hands last time I asked for someone to build 2.2-packages...we were waiting for admin1 to come back online, and now I'm on the 2.2 side, so maybe he can work on -current with you. Whatever happens on the tcl front (and whether the ports tree will restart officially supporting -current) , I think it's a good idea to have someone else building -current packages. I don't intend to go back to building them until at least after 2.2.5 is released. By the way^2, I have been thinking for awhile about signing the packages with pgp, maybe it's a good time to start that now, since there will be packages from multiple origins. (Let's compare notes on this in private mail, no need to bore others with the ittsy bitsy details.) * I thought we were ramping up to remove it. You can imagine my surprise * to see the 8.0 beta committed. :-/ Me too. * I guess, my first task, should I decide to accept it, is to figure * out how to cope with tcl8 in the source tree and tcl7.5 in ports. Well, that's not the whole story. You have to do that without breaking 2.2-stable compatibility. There are some ports that require some private headers and stuff. This is where I gave up. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 03:13:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16038 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15998; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA09852; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:43:14 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199708021013.TAA09852@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708020927.CAA11125@blimp.mimi.com> from Satoshi Asami at "Aug 2, 97 02:27:25 am" To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:43:14 +0930 (CST) Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've stayed out of this thread long enough. 8) Satoshi has, IMHO, done the right thing, but for all the wrong reasons. Ports should have less (or no) "official" support on -current. If you are running -current, you should be able to take care of yourself. Naturally, merging fixes to help them run on -current is desirable, as it will make the cutover at the next major upgrade easier. > * Well, wouldn't it make more sense to discuss, to back out the > * changes that introduces these problems ? > > You are absolutely right. We've done this. Countless times. Nobody appears to have actually done very much about the results of these discussions. It is, however, apparent that moving in any _other_ direction that that eventually agreed on will only make things worse. > * Wouln't it be better to come to a decision, that such > * things like perl and tcl, _if_ they are needed in the > * base system, should be of the same version in -current > * and -stable ?! This indicates that you haven't even watched, let alone studied, the issues that have been raised in these discussions before. > There are only two ways out of this, as far as I can tell; remove tcl > from the base system (pst has done most of the work for this), or > completely ignore the one in the base system and always use tcl from > the ports collection (I'm not sure how hard this is -- we may need an > enhanced version of LIB_DEPENDS or something). The correct answer to this is, of course, that any port that requires a specific Tcl version or range of versions should require one of those versions out of the ports collection. A port failing to operate regardless of the Tcl version in the base distribution is _fundamentally_broken_, and should be fixed. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 03:30:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16624 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16576; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199708021030.DAA16576@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, igor@zynaps.ru Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16452; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708021027.DAA16452@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:27:12 -0700 (PDT) From: igor@zynaps.ru To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: ports/4211: trafshow port update Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4211 >Category: ports >Synopsis: trafshow port update >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 2 03:30:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Igor Vinokurov >Organization: JSB Inkombank >Release: does not matter >Environment: does not matter >Description: trafshow port update for compile under -current >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: begin 644 trafshow-port.patch.gz M'XL(```````"`]U6;7.;1A#^#+]B/?8'6X`$"+V1RB/'5F*UL9Q(&MN=3H=! 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MF#@)$W?C]G6L+[_=R%7<#AS;_\KGA(H")R],W\=W&*&WXZOB$YF:^+Z_@P_M ME]"C7#^`3Z.,3]ZFK/["Q*S01WV7WLK.%?'2U/P_GX[C"H>&/Z.$7.V%I*6* EQ;LF,RCKUN7G\)!E,JWF\*!K^85^R6#YCT]8?P`9%2F7L1$``*.$ ` end >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 04:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA19670 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19665; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 04:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id MAA07164; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:30:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA02251; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:23:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970802122332.51323@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:23:32 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Satoshi Asami Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued References: <19970801182448.26268@klemm.gtn.com> <199708020927.CAA11125@blimp.mimi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199708020927.CAA11125@blimp.mimi.com>; from Satoshi Asami on Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 02:27:25AM -0700 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 02:27:25AM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * But unable to build really working 2.2 packages, because they > * only have -current :-/ > > Well, I'll be doing thot from now on. Watch packages-stable on your > nearest mirror site -- other than building packages for new/upgraded > ports, I've been recompiling the entire tree every month or so, and > that will still continue after switching to -stable. Hmmm, words like "if it ain´t broken, don´t fix it". The whole thing intorduces new words an phrases as "ports-stable" removes well known things like ports-current. Wouldn´t it be simpler to keep things as they are and to consolidate on a basis, that makes it again possible for you so as if nothing bad has happened ? ;-) > * Well, wouldn't it make more sense to discuss, to back out the > * changes that introduces these problems ? > > You are absolutely right. Shouldn´t we then wait for an agreement without changing things or do you want to push the discussion forward by introducing ports-stable ? > The problem with tcl is that it changes too much and often new > versions are not backwards compatible with the old ones. It's not > much of a problem if it isn't such an essential part of the FreeBSD > environment -- but it is, and there are so many ports that depend on a > particular version of tcl, it is simply too much of a pain to have > "the" version in the base system yank the ports around every time it > is upgraded. (The last non-continuation occurred between tcl73/tk36 > and tcl74/tk40 -- but at that time, tcl was not part of the base > tree so we could deal with it entirely in the ports side.) I think FreeBSD doesn´t have to use both scripting languages. Perl is _the_ straight forward enhancement of sh & Co., so that it should be ok to write utilities based on this. Desktop Managament systems or administration tool could be as well packaged as port with a proper dependency to the correct TCL/TK version. During system installation you could ask if the user wants to install the foo/bar administration tool package and FreeBSD would be purified from the bloat of huge "work in progress" packages ... > There are only two ways out of this, as far as I can tell; remove tcl > from the base system (pst has done most of the work for this), or > completely ignore the one in the base system and always use tcl from > the ports collection (I'm not sure how hard this is -- we may need an > enhanced version of LIB_DEPENDS or something). See above, I´d vote now to remove TCP completely after seeing that results. > Absolutely. I (and many others) have spend much time and effort on > this; I would like to continue doing so. Thanks for your and all the others most valueable work. My big wish would be, not to debate about this too much, we all know our wonderful working ports mechanism, so then please use it when it is recommended. And I think it would be here. Would you all agree, to make ports of FreeBSD system utilities that rely on TCL ? Is it possible to remove TCL from the base system and keep the ports mechism as it is without introducing new declarations ? -- Andreas Klemm | klemm.gtn.com - powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 06:30:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23586 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23569; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199708021330.GAA23569@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, eagriff@global2000.net Received: from 315-dialup-8.global2000.net (315-dialup-8.global2000.net [208.133.142.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23444 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708021328.GAA23444@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 14:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric A. Griff" Reply-To: eagriff@global2000.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4212: xemacs doesn't get along with databases/db Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4212 >Category: ports >Synopsis: xemacs doesn't get along with databases/db >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 2 06:30:01 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric A. Griff >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386 >Environment: cvsup as of 22Jul97 at about 11AM EST. /usr/ports/editors/Makefile is RCS version 1.24 >Description: When I tried to build xemacs, it broke while in [src]. Because it was using the db-2.0 include, and at the end tried to link w/libdb.a, again in /usr/local. >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/ports/databases/db make install cd /usr/ports/editors/xemacs make #(Will take a while) >Fix: #for me this little ugly kludge worked (cd /usr/local/include; mv db.h mvdb.h; mv db_185.h mvdb_185.h) (cd /usr/local/lib; mv libdb.a mvlibdb.a) #Incase configure has already run if test -d /usr/ports/editors/xemacs/work ; then ln -s /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/lib/libdb.a ; fi >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 06:30:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23600 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23583; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199708021330.GAA23583@hub.freebsd.org> Resent-From: gnats (GNATS Management) Resent-To: freebsd-ports Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats@FreeBSD.ORG, eagriff@pm315-1.global2000.net Received: from 315-dialup-8.global2000.net (315-dialup-8.global2000.net [208.133.142.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23449 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708021328.GAA23449@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:44:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric A. Griff" Reply-To: eagriff@pm315-1.global2000.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: ports/4213: Wine needs LIB_DEPEND on Xpm Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Number: 4213 >Category: ports >Synopsis: Wine needs LIB_DEPEND on Xpm >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-ports >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 2 06:30:03 PDT 1997 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric A. Griff >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386 >Environment: cvsup as of Tue, 22Jul97 at about 11AM. /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile is RCS version 1.48 >Description: The Wine port depends on libxpm to build. >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine make >Fix: cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine mv Makefile Makefile.orig cat Makefile.orig | sed 's/^#LIB_DEPENDS/LIB_DEPENDS/' > Makefile >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 09:25:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29932 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29887; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05353; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:22:26 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:22:26 +0300 (EEST) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Michael Smith cc: Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708021013.TAA09852@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Ports should have less (or no) "official" support on -current. If you > are running -current, you should be able to take care of yourself. Well, what about folks running 3.0-current for SMP reasons and that have not so much ideea about UN*X/FreeBSD hacking ? By chance it happens that myself too I am in the same position... > Naturally, merging fixes to help them run on -current is desirable, as > it will make the cutover at the next major upgrade easier. Not only that, the ports should be buildable on every version of FreeBSD, if possible; it comes to my mind something like GNU's autoconfig scripts... I'd really like to see *one* single ports tree, buildable on every FreeBSD version; this might be hard, I know, but I think it well worths working on it. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 10:22:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02240 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (root@labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02207; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by labs.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00921; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 03:20:13 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Michael Smith cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:43:14 +0930." <199708021013.TAA09852@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:12 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There are only two ways out of this, as far as I can tell; remove tcl > > from the base system (pst has done most of the work for this), or > > completely ignore the one in the base system and always use tcl from > > the ports collection (I'm not sure how hard this is -- we may need an > > enhanced version of LIB_DEPENDS or something). > > The correct answer to this is, of course, that any port that requires > a specific Tcl version or range of versions should require one of > those versions out of the ports collection. A port failing to operate > regardless of the Tcl version in the base distribution is > _fundamentally_broken_, and should be fixed. This is a gross over-simplification. The ports collection cannot ignore the rest of the system on which it is installed. That's the whole point of this discussion. Well, perhaps it isn't that much of an over-simplification, if you consider that all of these problems are fixed if you remove tcl from the base dist, in -current and in 2.2-stable as well (yes, this would be a lot of work, and yes, I'll volunteer to help). Just out of curiosity, why exactly was tcl8.0 *beta* added to the base distribution? I saw a message from Jordan which said "this will make my life easier" giving rather obscure reasons, but I can't express the amazement I experienced when I first saw the commit. This upgrade has caused me no end of problems, since it broke many tcl and tk apps I run on several systems. Yes, sure, this is -current, and we have to live with these inconveniences, but I'd be far more comfortable living with this particular inconvenience if the end result was the removal of tcl from the base distribution altogether, and moving it to ports. This is not an anti-tcl stance, but the opposite; I use tcl/tk widely myself, but I'd far prefer to track versions through the ports system than have to rely on the base distribution staying up-to-date, purely because many apps require different versions. The same with perl. The base distribution is simply not the place for these things; surely that much is obvious by now? Upgrading the base system's version to an untested beta with some very significant internal changes, even in -current, is the most stupid move I have seen in the FreeBSD project since my involvement. I can count the number of such incidents I've witnessed in the last couple of years on one hand, so it's not like the project is infested with stupidity. It was very ill-considered, and Satoshi's position here is critical. That he apparently got no say in this is incredible, to say the least. It seems obvious to an outsider that there are some very fundamental communication problems within the core team. Seeing this fixed is even more critical than where tcl or perl happen to reside. Regards, David -- David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 10:26:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02503 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from echo.eos.ncsu.edu (echo.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02497 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by echo.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC02Jan97) id RAA14058 for ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:26:48 GMT Message-Id: <199708021726.RAA14058@echo.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: xmcd in 3.0? To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: ports@freebsd.org, nsj@ncsu.edu Reply-To: nsj@ncsu.edu From: nsj@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To the masters of the ports, Are there plans to include xmcd (the Motif CD Audio Player) as a port in 3.0? It's available for 2.2.2-RELEASE (and probably others), and the 2.2.2-RELEASE version seems to work perfectly on my 3.0-SNAP system. Please reply to me, personally, as well as the list. Thanks, nsj -- Nate Johnson / nsj@ncsu.edu / nsj@catt.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org Gallery and News Editor, FreeBSD Project WWW Site - Unlease the Daemon! From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 10:54:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03685 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03663; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [206.246.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17995; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:54:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, David Nugent wrote: > Upgrading the base system's version to an untested beta with some very > significant internal changes, even in -current, is the most stupid move > I have seen in the FreeBSD project since my involvement. I can count the > number of such incidents I've witnessed in the last couple of years on one > hand, so it's not like the project is infested with stupidity. It was > very ill-considered, and Satoshi's position here is critical. That he > apparently got no say in this is incredible, to say the least. It seems > obvious to an outsider that there are some very fundamental communication > problems within the core team. Seeing this fixed is even more critical > than where tcl or perl happen to reside. [I trimmed out all the single names, you guys are all subscribed] Another thing to consider is the basic cleanliness of FreeBSD to tcl applications that don't arrive via the ports mechanism. Our present environment is such that even a well written tcl app hasn't the least chance of configuring itself correctly. In our respect for tcl, we've constructed a tcl-hostile system. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 11:08:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04371 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04311; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01775; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:05:18 +0200 (CEST) To: David Nugent cc: Michael Smith , asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:12 +1000." <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:05:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au>, David Nugent writes: >Just out of curiosity, why exactly was tcl8.0 *beta* added to the base >distribution? Because -current is "not yet release code" and tcl8.0b2 is "almost but not quite release code". That's why. It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if they ought to run -current :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 11:29:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05056 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (root@dnttm.wave.ras.ru [194.85.104.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05037; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5/IP-3) with UUCP id WAA07806; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:22:56 +0400 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00744; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:24:32 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199708021824.WAA00744@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Michael Smith cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 19:43:14 +0930." <199708021013.TAA09852@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:24:30 +0400 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ports should have less (or no) "official" support on -current. No. Ports should have more (full) "official" support for 2.2. If Satoshi can not build packages for both 2.2 and -current, I prefer packages for 2.2. [...] > A port failing to operate > regardless of the Tcl version in the base distribution is > _fundamentally_broken_, and should be fixed. It is slightly other issue, but see: I still can run binaries linked with libc.so.2.2 on my -current machine. But after I did 'make world' today I am unable to run binaries linked with libtcl75.so.1.1 (wish4.1), because: application-specific initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl in the following directories: /usr/libdata/tcl /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 /usr/tcl7.5/library /usr/local/library This probably means that Tcl wasn't installed properly. Is the correct answer "Install Tcl 7.5 from ports"? IMHO, something is broken here, and should be fixed. Dima From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 11:34:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05431 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05385; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15390; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT) To: David Nugent cc: Michael Smith , asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 03:20:12 +1000." <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:32:38 -0700 Message-ID: <15386.870546758@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have seen in the FreeBSD project since my involvement. I can count the > number of such incidents I've witnessed in the last couple of years on one > hand, so it's not like the project is infested with stupidity. It was > very ill-considered, and Satoshi's position here is critical. That he > apparently got no say in this is incredible, to say the least. It seems > obvious to an outsider that there are some very fundamental communication > problems within the core team. Seeing this fixed is even more critical > than where tcl or perl happen to reside. What most people here don't understand is that there was very fierce debate about this behind the scenes for some time before it was done, and what started as a TCL debate blew up into a whole "should FreeBSD have everything unbundled, from the compilers to perl, or should it bundle all the high level tools so that other system tools can be written which depend on them?" sort of fracas. One man's useful tool is another man's wasteful, unnecessary bloat, it seems, and rather than see an anti-bloatist campaign which would have led to the removal of tcl, perl, xntpd, tn3270 and a host of other utilities which are currently not deemed "essential" by the anti-bloatists, I think it was sort of deemed the lesser of two evils to just let the bloatists win the TCL debate. At least that's how I see it from my perspective - frankly, after the debate in question was over (which, again, most people here were spared), I decided I didn't even want to think about the issue for awhile and that's why I've been silent in the face of Satoshi's impassioned pleas - I don't want to go back to the bargaining table and have to decide which utilities will get the axe. Once you start with TCL, it will *not* stop there - I can only assure you of that. Perl will follow immediately behind, as will much other stuff (yes perl fans, there are many out there who consider your favorite utility language an evil, bloated monster which should not be bundled with FreeBSD at all). What we have now is a rough state of equilibrium between the two sides (who are fundamentally at odds as to what constitutes a reasonable bundling policy) and while TCL may be causing some grief, I think the bloatists are content with that state of affairs and nothing else is on the bundling horizon that I can see. Nuke TCL and you will swing the balance in the other direction, with a lot more than just TCL biting the dust as a result. Maybe that's not such a bad thing, but just so you understand how much of a "linchpin" issue this one is. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 11:39:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05693 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05688; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.171]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA126; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:30:12 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id OAA01081; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970802143845.26672@scsn.net> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:38:45 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 08:05:18PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 08:05:18PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au>, David Nugent writes: > > >Just out of curiosity, why exactly was tcl8.0 *beta* added to the base > >distribution? > > Because -current is "not yet release code" and tcl8.0b2 is "almost but > not quite release code". > > That's why. > > It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if > they ought to run -current :-( > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. This seems to me to be a very silly attitude. Today's -current is tomorrow's release... If this foolishness of continuing to maintain tcl in the base tree is not stopped _now_, we will have to live with it for the next N releases. _Please_ end it *now*. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:04:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06899 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net (genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06861; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10] by genghis.eng.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wujSG-00005W-00; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:03:08 +0100 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Organization: Demon Internet Ltd. Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:05:18 +0200." <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:03:07 +0100 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > >Because -current is "not yet release code" and tcl8.0b2 is "almost but >not quite release code". > >That's why. > >It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if >they ought to run -current :-( This seems to be something of an oversimplification. Whilst there are undoubtedly people who are much more likely to be better off running release (or perhaps -stable) code, there are quite a number of people who need features (SMP, for example) that are only present in -current. The problems come about when the base operating system contains components that really shouldn't be there at all. TCL, Perl certainly fall into this category, and there's probably quite a bit else which would be better off in either ports, or an 'additions' package. A cursory glance through my /usr/src shows ncftp, opie, amd, cdplayers, x-ten, xntpd, amongst others, all of which don't necessarily belong in a base FreeBSD syste. By including such non-essential components (in the sense that they are not needed to run a stripped-down FreeBSD box) in the whole base release, it seems that problems such as the one currently under discussion are simply going to become more and more regular, which is likely to cause much needless aggravation and raised blood-pressures. It seems to me that an urgent study is required, to identify those parts of the current /usr/src tree that don't really belong in the core system, migrating them out either into the ports collection, or setting up an additions structure -- we could then move to a state where: FreeBSD-core + FreeBSD-additions = FreeBSD-package (existing /usr/src) with FreeBSD-ports continuing along its current excellent path. Those that then wish to stay current with the core operating system, who are not worried (for whatever reason) about the additions, such as tcl and perl, can do so, without worrying that whenever they cvsup an entire core source tree and do a make world, they're not exposing themselves to installing other -current software other than that part that they're particularly interested in. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet Ltd. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:13:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07320 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07261; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.6/8.7.3) id VAA00512; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:11:15 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199708021911.VAA00512@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708021824.WAA00744@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> from Dmitrij Tejblum at "Aug 2, 97 10:24:30 pm" To: dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (Dmitrij Tejblum) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:11:15 +0200 (MEST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Dmitrij Tejblum who wrote: > > It is slightly other issue, but see: I still can run binaries linked with > libc.so.2.2 on my -current machine. But after I did 'make world' today I am > unable to run binaries linked with libtcl75.so.1.1 (wish4.1), because: > > application-specific initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl in > the following directories: > /usr/libdata/tcl /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 /usr/tcl7.5/library /usr/local/library > This probably means that Tcl wasn't installed properly. > > Is the correct answer "Install Tcl 7.5 from ports"? IMHO, something is broken > here, and should be fixed. Yeah, like removing tcl from the base system.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:26:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07880 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07811; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15696; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:23:22 -0700 (PDT) To: dmaddox@scsn.net cc: David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 15:11:35 EDT." <19970802151135.60481@scsn.net> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 12:23:21 -0700 Message-ID: <15692.870549801@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Most of this argument is just silly. Even the most vehement anti- > bloatists don't consider perl to be "an evil, bloated monster"; they just > consider _it's inclusion in the base distribution_ to be AEBM. While you I don't see the difference from the POV of this discussion so this paragraph of yours doesn't really parse for me. > In any case, I see none of this bloatist v. antibloatist propaganda > as cogent here. Tcl should not be part of the base system because it It's imminently cogent - this is NOT just a technical issue, it's an emotional one, and if you think that all software decisions are made on purely technical merits then I have a certain tower in Paris which I could make you a _great_ deal on. ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:35:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08331 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08326; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.148]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA190; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:25:42 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA01228; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970802153150.47714@scsn.net> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:31:50 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <19970802151135.60481@scsn.net> <15692.870549801@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <15692.870549801@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 12:23:21PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 12:23:21PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Most of this argument is just silly. Even the most vehement anti- > > bloatists don't consider perl to be "an evil, bloated monster"; they just > > consider _it's inclusion in the base distribution_ to be AEBM. While you > > I don't see the difference from the POV of this discussion so this > paragraph of yours doesn't really parse for me. Huh? > > > In any case, I see none of this bloatist v. antibloatist propaganda > > as cogent here. Tcl should not be part of the base system because it > > It's imminently cogent - this is NOT just a technical issue, it's > an emotional one, and if you think that all software decisions are > made on purely technical merits then I have a certain tower in Paris > which I could make you a _great_ deal on. ;-) No, in light of this discussion, it's clear that they are not. I humbly submit that they _should be_. Maybe you gentlemen of core should take a step back from the situation, take a few deep breaths, and reconsider this issue. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:36:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08405 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08356; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.148]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-32322U5000L100S10000) with ESMTP id AAA223; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:25:59 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA01242; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970802153427.60153@scsn.net> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:34:28 -0400 From: "Donald J. Maddox" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: Dmitrij Tejblum , msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: <199708021824.WAA00744@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> <199708021911.VAA00512@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199708021911=2EVAA00512=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Sat=2C_Aug_02=2C_1997_at_09=3A11=3A1?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?5PM_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Aug 02, 1997 at 09:11:15PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Dmitrij Tejblum who wrote: > > > > It is slightly other issue, but see: I still can run binaries linked with > > libc.so.2.2 on my -current machine. But after I did 'make world' today I am > > unable to run binaries linked with libtcl75.so.1.1 (wish4.1), because: > > > > application-specific initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl in > > the following directories: > > /usr/libdata/tcl /usr/local/lib/tcl7.5 /usr/tcl7.5/library /usr/local/library > > This probably means that Tcl wasn't installed properly. > > > > Is the correct answer "Install Tcl 7.5 from ports"? IMHO, something is broken > > here, and should be fixed. > > Yeah, like removing tcl from the base system.... > Hear, hear! From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:36:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08489 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net (genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08458; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10] by genghis.eng.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wujxY-00006R-00; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:35:28 +0100 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Organization: Demon Internet Ltd. Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:15:33 +0200." <1987.870549333@critter.dk.tfs.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:35:28 +0100 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > >In message , Ade Lovett writes: >>This seems to be something of an oversimplification. Whilst there >>are undoubtedly people who are much more likely to be better off >>running release (or perhaps -stable) code, there are quite a number >>of people who need features (SMP, for example) that are only present >>in -current. > >You know, I actualle don't see that as an excuse for running -current, >but if you insist, at least don't try to use that kind of argument >for trying to turn -current into -stable, OK ? I'm suggesting no such thing. What I am suggesting is that the 'base' FreeBSD system is now too big, and too complicated, for its own good. Perl and TCL shouldn't really be in the base system at all. Especially perl, given that it's version 4. Should I wish to install perl5, either direct from CPAN, or through ports, there's even no easy way to ensure that all traces of perl4 have been removed from my machine, which may (or may not) cause subtle problems in the future. Indeed, perl and tcl bring up an interesting discrepancy. If -current is containing newer versions of tcl than in -release or -stable, why isn't the same being done for perl? After all, now that perl 5 has been around for quite a while, and if perl is to remain part of the base system, shouldn't it be being incorporated into -current, with perl 4 being dropped? Having duplicate code, in the base system, and in ports, is just causing anguish all around. That much should be obvious :( Either perl belongs in the base system, or it doesn't. If it does, then the ports version should be killed off, if it doesn't, it needs to be removed from /usr/src. Similarly for tcl. Similarly for a whole host of other things. You (plural, not aimed at anyone in particular) can't have it both ways -- it just causes far too much grief in the long run. >>The problems come about when the base operating system contains >>components that really shouldn't be there at all. TCL, Perl certainly >>fall into this category, and there's probably quite a bit else which >>would be better off in either ports, or an 'additions' package. > >I consider "options" equally bad in protocols and operating systems. We already have "options". At install time I can choose to add a bunch of things to my machine should my heart so desire. games, proflibs, catpages, manpages etc.. Splitting up "bin" into two or more components, just in the same way that selecting "src" will offer sub-choices, depending on whether the binaries are absolutely definitely critical for system to run, or whether they are useful 'core' bolt-ons, doesn't seem to be too much of a change in direction. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet Ltd. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09010 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08955; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01989; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:15:33 +0200 (CEST) To: ade@demon.net cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:03:07 BST." Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 21:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1987.870549333@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Ade Lovett writes: >>It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if >>they ought to run -current :-( > > >This seems to be something of an oversimplification. Whilst there >are undoubtedly people who are much more likely to be better off >running release (or perhaps -stable) code, there are quite a number >of people who need features (SMP, for example) that are only present >in -current. You know, I actualle don't see that as an excuse for running -current, but if you insist, at least don't try to use that kind of argument for trying to turn -current into -stable, OK ? >The problems come about when the base operating system contains >components that really shouldn't be there at all. TCL, Perl certainly >fall into this category, and there's probably quite a bit else which >would be better off in either ports, or an 'additions' package. I consider "options" equally bad in protocols and operating systems. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 12:55:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10013 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net (genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09994; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genghis.eng.demon.net [193.195.45.10] by genghis.eng.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wukGW-00007A-00; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:55:04 +0100 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Organization: Demon Internet Ltd. Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:32:38 PDT." <15386.870546758@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:55:03 +0100 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > >Nuke TCL and you will swing the balance in the other direction, with a >lot more than just TCL biting the dust as a result. Maybe that's not >such a bad thing, but just so you understand how much of a "linchpin" >issue this one is. Surely this would depend on how far things "bite the dust". Personally, I don't think it would be unreasonable to have a situation where the base system is made up of two distinct, but heavily inter-related parts, namely that chunk of the current core system that is definitely needed to run any kind of system at all, and other parts which aren't necessarily required, but which are stamped with a kind of "seal of approval" for use with FreeBSD. We then have a situation where both sides of the "bloat" are happy, those that want a minimalistic approach can install the required components and leave out the approved integrated packages, others that prefer a full-featured system, without having to compile/install anything else, can install both. In terms of what FreeBSD (the entity) is, however, both the required and extra package components should be considered as equally important. Possibly, a somewhat simplistic attitude, but certainly something to consider, no? -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet Ltd. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 13:51:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13470 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (critter.phk.freebsd.dk [195.8.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13421; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02299; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:49:03 +0200 (CEST) To: ade@demon.net cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:55:03 BST." Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 22:49:03 +0200 Message-ID: <2297.870554943@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Possibly, a somewhat simplistic attitude, but certainly something >to consider, no? >-- >Ade Lovett, Demon Internet Ltd. And it has been considered, and as far as I know fell because what nobody saw any chance of "minimal system" being definable so that any significant majority would agree to it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 14:12:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14335 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14256; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18564; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:10:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <15692.870549801@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > In any case, I see none of this bloatist v. antibloatist propaganda > > as cogent here. Tcl should not be part of the base system because it > > It's imminently cogent - this is NOT just a technical issue, it's > an emotional one, and if you think that all software decisions are > made on purely technical merits then I have a certain tower in Paris > which I could make you a _great_ deal on. ;-) Ah, yes. There are many snakes in this pit. One I have not seen recently in the discussion in the inherent problem of incorporating into the base system a substantial component that is on a fundamentally different development schedule than the rest of the OS. For things with a relatively long update cycle, such as gcc, this isn't a huge problem, but for more rapidly developing items, like tcl, users stand a good chance of wanting an update between FreeBSD releases. Our only easy to use interim update mechanism is the ports collection. -john From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 14:15:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14500 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usc.usc.unal.edu.co ([200.21.26.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14495 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unalmodem09.usc.unal.edu.co by usc.usc.unal.edu.co (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07474; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:09:54 -0400 Message-Id: <33E3BCA4.7F78@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:03:00 -0700 From: "Pedro Giffuni S," Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [it] (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with a Motif app.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy, I've found Lesstif very useful for building many Motif applications, but Willow (http://www.washington.edu/willow/unix-willow.html) is giving me some problems: ___________________ for i in src/willow src/license src/malarm src/z3950 src/uwbrs/isc src/uwbrs ; do (cd $i; make); done gcc -o ../../willow willow.o save_query.o summary.o dialog.o dbio.o dict.o ftp.o print.o helpshell.o mail.o resources.o hash.o config_db.o utils.o range.o text-list.o extensions.o protocol.o field_pick.o db_pick.o interclient.o /usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a -lXt -lX11 gcc: /usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.a: No such file or directory gcc: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. _______________ I'm using 2.2.2-Release and the old Lesstif that came with it. Are these files missing in the port, unimplemented, or does anyone have a hint that could help? cheers, Pedro. cheers, Pedro. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 14:27:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15075 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15068; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15744; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA25135; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:27:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <15386.870546758@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Once you start with TCL, it will *not* stop there - I can only > assure you of that. Perl will follow immediately behind, as > will much other stuff (yes perl fans, there are many out there > who consider your favorite utility language an evil, bloated > monster which should not be bundled with FreeBSD at all). What > we have now is a rough state of Meta-ports!! Their time has come! Not only could meta-packages answer bloatist concerns that "an installed FreeBSD system is useless unless one adds 1001 extra packages", but they could provide increased flexibility. I believe bsd.port.mk could support meta-packages right now, but I think some extra mods to it could make the whole thing work quite well indeed. [meta-ports, for those who have forgotten, are just normal ports, but whose only purpose is to build other ports.] -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 14:39:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15674 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (root@unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15631; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14498; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:33:40 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708022133.HAA14498@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Michael Smith , asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 11:32:38 MST." <15386.870546758@time.cdrom.com> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 07:33:39 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I have seen in the FreeBSD project since my involvement. I can count the >> number of such incidents I've witnessed in the last couple of years on one >> hand, so it's not like the project is infested with stupidity. It was >> very ill-considered, and Satoshi's position here is critical. That he >> apparently got no say in this is incredible, to say the least. It seems >> obvious to an outsider that there are some very fundamental communication >> problems within the core team. Seeing this fixed is even more critical >> than where tcl or perl happen to reside. > >What most people here don't understand is that there was very fierce >debate about this behind the scenes for some time before it was done, >and what started as a TCL debate blew up into a whole "should FreeBSD >have everything unbundled, from the compilers to perl, or should it >bundle all the high level tools so that other system tools can be >written which depend on them?" sort of fracas. One man's useful tool >is another man's wasteful, unnecessary bloat, it seems, and rather [..] Yes, yes, yes. But all completely besides the point. I don't care one way or another about "bloat". It is irrelevent to the point I was making. "Bloat" is subjective, as you point out, but it has nothing to do with how tools are updated and integrated into the system. Tools which are imported into the base system are *necessarily* more static, because of the very real concerns that have caused problems here. They won't change as often, they can't change as often, else we should by rights be carefully following perl development IN THE SOURCE TREE rather than having not only an obsolete version of perl, one completely unsupported and with seriously security bugs, and one which hardly anyone uses anyway. Tcl, until this apparently unpopular import, was at least in a better position than that. I've said before that perl4 must die. I don't particularly care whether it is imported into the source tree or left as a port. It is stale, it is old, it is obsolete and completely unsupported. It has bugs, limitations and security holes. It must go. Period. My only concern about importing a current version into the source tree is the same as tcl - what guarantees are there that this will be kept up to date? The ports system, in spite of its faults and shortfalls, *works*, and works extremely well, mainly because of the efforts of porters and Satoshi's management. But I hardly need to point this out to you of all people. The ports system integrates third party software into the base system seemlessly, provides upgrade paths and has people actively supporting (the most popular packages, anyway) and updating their favourite apps. Sure, there are mistakes there, like the recent apache vs. apache current debate, but these are far more easily handled in the less expensive and more low-maintenance system that ports has been designed to handle. Again, this has nothing to do with any "bloatist" point of view, nor is it anti-perl or anti-tcl either - I use both daily and enhance systems constantly with both of them. BUT: How is tcl essential to a working FreeBSD environment? How is perl, for that matter, other than a few scattered scripts which can and do work quite happily with current versions of perl (and can easily be replaced with /bin/sh scripts anyway)? Why are we nailing ourselves to versions of third party software which are prone to become stale and unmaintained? Why can't the ports system be used for them? >Once you start with TCL, it will *not* stop there - I can only assure >you of that. Perl will follow immediately behind, as will much other >stuff (yes perl fans, there are many out there who consider your >favorite utility language an evil, bloated monster which should not be >bundled with FreeBSD at all). What we have now is a rough state of Surely, you're not suggesting that just because something is in not in the FreeBSD base system that it is "evil"? Oh come on, this is such a childish attitude I can't believe I'm hearing it. The question is not how large a package is, it is how useful it is in the base distribution - how dependant upon it a FreeBSD system is in installation and setup, and how integrated it is into the system. Neither perl nor tcl have any grip in the system where they could be considered so essential that FreeBSD will not run without them. It is more *appropriate* that they be maintained, integrated and - ESPECIALLY - kept current via the ports system. This is a major PLUS for users, not the opposite as you seem to be assuming. perl4 in the tree is living proof of exactly where we end up with the approach that is being taken. >equilibrium between the two sides (who are fundamentally at odds as to >what constitutes a reasonable bundling policy) and while TCL may be >causing some grief, I think the bloatists are content with that state >of affairs and nothing else is on the bundling horizon that I can see. >Nuke TCL and you will swing the balance in the other direction, with a >lot more than just TCL biting the dust as a result. Maybe that's not >such a bad thing, but just so you understand how much of a "linchpin" >issue this one is. No, I understand the issue well enough. But I think it is irrevelent. Having "current" versions of things in ports and "old" things in the tree is not only annoying, it is downright ridiculous. The opposite is almost as bad. I would quickly add that any generalisation here is dangerous - you have to consider the benefits of things being integrated into the source tree vs. the costs of possibly becoming stale. It is far easier to keep our cvs "hands" of a third party package and integrate it via the ports system. Diffs between a distribution and the "FreeBSD version" are absolutely plain without even having a source repository around. Things like bind, gcc, gdb etc. are a completely different ballgame. So, no, I don't see this as any sort of weighted argument. You can cry about bloat all day, and I simple don't care. That point of view misses the issue entirely. tcl is a major headache in terms of multiple version operability. Perl is likewise (do you do much perl debugging?). I'd live silently with these problems if the benefits outweighed the cost in terms of hassle, but to me, it just isn't worth it. Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 14:44:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16015 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (root@unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15926; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14589; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:40:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708022140.HAA14589@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Michael Smith , asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:05:18 +0200." <1773.870545118@critter.dk.tfs.com> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 07:40:47 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In message <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au>, David Nugent writes: >>Just out of curiosity, why exactly was tcl8.0 *beta* added to the base >>distribution? > >Because -current is "not yet release code" and tcl8.0b2 is "almost but >not quite release code". > >That's why. Well, sure, but This isn't why I asked. What features in tcl8.0 are required for a running FreeBSD system? Why is it essential that tcl be present in the base system AT ALL? What benefits are there in tcl being present here instead of being built by the ports/packages system? >It sounds to me like a lot of people should seriously reconsider if >they ought to run -current :-( Most of the systems I maintain are 2.2. However, I do software development on -current. I already mentioned that I'm quite prepared to live with any inconveniences (and there are plenty of those) absolutely without complaint. This has nothing to do with the issues I'm raising. This change appears to be entirely gratuitous. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'd seriously like to know what the benefits are of nailing ourselves to tcl8.0 in the FreeBSD base system will yield, or in fact what benefits having tcl7.5 is already giving 2.2 systems. Why is it worth the cost, hassle and upset, particularly with respect to the ports system. What compelling reasons are there or having it there as compared with the much more cheaply maintained ports system? Enquiring minds want to know. Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 15:10:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17486 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (root@unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17423; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15046; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:08:19 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708022208.IAA15046@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: John Fieber cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:10:07 EST." X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:08:18 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ah, yes. There are many snakes in this pit. One I have not seen > recently in the discussion in the inherent problem of > incorporating into the base system a substantial component that > is on a fundamentally different development schedule than the > rest of the OS. For things with a relatively long update cycle, > such as gcc, this isn't a huge problem, but for more rapidly > developing items, like tcl, users stand a good chance of wanting > an update between FreeBSD releases. Our only easy to use interim > update mechanism is the ports collection. Absolutely. This is much more succinct and clear than my own argument, and it is THE fundamental and most important issue at stake here. Well said. Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 15:13:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17750 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (root@unique.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17705; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unique.usn.blaze.net.au (davidn@local [127.0.0.1]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15131; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:12:36 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199708022212.IAA15131@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: hoek@hwcn.org cc: Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:27:48 -0400." X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:12:36 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Meta-ports!! Their time has come! >~ >[meta-ports, for those who have forgotten, are just normal >ports, but whose only purpose is to build other ports.] You lost me. :-) How is the structure any different from the current *_DEPENDS system? Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 15:54:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19816 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19810; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA22918; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA03479; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: David Nugent cc: hoek@hwcn.org, Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708022212.IAA15131@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, David Nugent wrote: > >Meta-ports!! Their time has come! > >~ > >[meta-ports, for those who have forgotten, are just normal > >ports, but whose only purpose is to build other ports.] > > You lost me. :-) > > How is the structure any different from the current *_DEPENDS > system? A normal port, eg. xonix-1.4, or tvp-0.9.7, will depend on other pieces of the port, but those depends are merely a side-effect ie. they are needed to compile xonix or tvp. However, a meta-port would consist of little more than a list of dependancies. Its purpose would not be to install a single piece of software (eg. tvp or xonix), but to install a whole list of software. To better support such meta-packages, bsd.port.mk could be expanded a little. A variable such as META, when turned on, could merge all the PLISTS into one big one, and force ``make package'' to include all the dependancy's binaries in the package (not currently done). Sysinstall could give these meta ports a special place in its world, making it obvious that one is expected to install them to get a "complete" system. This would have the large advantage that users of older releases could update their system by installing a meta-package or two. If the idea proves succesful, it could be possible to upgrade a whole system and kernel just by typing "pkg_add". :) Of course, this puts a lot of power in Satoshi's hands, and I think that may scare a certain few people. ;) (Also, there is precedent for installing parts of the "base system" through a port/package. Consider XFree86). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 16:29:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21560 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trefoil.bogs.org (root@bogslab.ucdavis.edu [128.120.162.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21555 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myrtle.bogs.org (root@myrtle.bogs.org [198.137.203.39]) by trefoil.bogs.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07687 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myrtle.bogs.org (greg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by myrtle.bogs.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA00230 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:29:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199708022329.QAA00230@myrtle.bogs.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/ports ?? Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:29:06 -0700 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Regarding the perl and tk/tcl ports debate-- perhaps I'm being naive here, but would it help to have all (and only) ports installed under /usr/ports? This would be somewhat similar to /usr/contrib in certain other systems. All "standard" ports would go into /usr/ports; other add-ins would go in /usr/local; anything needed for the base system would go elsewhere. The ports team would be responsible only for the stuff under /usr/ports. Symbolic links (such as /usr/bin/perl5 --> /usr/ports/bin/perl5.4321) would give the user more flexibility. -Greg From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 16:56:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22762 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22753 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA16965; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:55:08 -0700 (PDT) To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/ports ?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:29:06 PDT." <199708022329.QAA00230@myrtle.bogs.org> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 16:55:07 -0700 Message-ID: <16961.870566107@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Regarding the perl and tk/tcl ports debate-- perhaps I'm being > naive here, but would it help to have all (and only) ports installed > under /usr/ports? This would be somewhat similar to /usr/contrib > in certain other systems. That would be a start, though the distfiles would also have to be reasonably standardized on or users who've installed "src" while only temporarily net connected (e.g. they bring the machine in to work, install it, go away again) will be sorely confused when their builds fall over. A more closely coupled ports collection could be a godsend for the bloat vs anti-bloat debate, but there are a lot of logistical issues to handle before it can (and it must) be as transparent as /usr/src. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 18:46:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26971 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26958; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nexgen.hiwaay.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (8.8.6/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id UAA12727; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:45:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nexgen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.hiwaay.net (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA04956; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:44:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708030144.UAA04956@nexgen.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 20:42:00 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I trimmed the individual addresses from this reply but wonder if it really should be going to (3) FreeBSD lists? Maybe its time to consider a change in a bit different direction. Is anyone familiar with the inst system SGI uses? Its almsost unmanagable from an ASCII terminal but with the graphic tool its simple enough for my boss. Every component SGI provides is registered in their installation history. Some are not optional. Others are. And the inst tool knows what is required for what, and when a newer version is installed it knows what to delete. Try to install something without the prerequisites and it'll tell you exactly what is missing, and if its available you'll be offered the chance to install it too. Otherwise you may be swapping CDs until you find it. Needless to say, this would make it very easy for someone to delete all of TCL or perl or whatever from a base FreeBSD system if we had it. Or to install it. It would be handy for me right now as I've had some system freezes, possibly always in X (one time it rebooted in the middle of the night for no reason, one time in 2 years) and I'm about to make XFree86-3.3. Would be nice to be able to cleanly remove the prior version from underneath first. Maybe in the short term utilities such as TCL, perl, and x11 should be registered in /var/db/pkg even if they are part of the base installation so they could be removed later? It means other components which require these items would also have to be registered as a package. One hitch in the FreeBSD package system that SGI doesn't have is the concept of "upgrade". If I replace version 2.8 of something with version 2.9, to cleanly do it now I have to remove 2.8. But if other packages depend on it, then I can't delete it without deleting everything that depends on it. Of course there is always the problem of packages that work with 2.8 and not 2.9... Supposedly SGI tests for this before releasing the new one. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 2 20:41:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02097 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [206.246.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02047; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 20:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [206.246.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA09522; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:36:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: dmaddox@scsn.net, David Nugent , Michael Smith , Satoshi Asami , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <15692.870549801@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Most of this argument is just silly. Even the most vehement anti- > > bloatists don't consider perl to be "an evil, bloated monster"; they just > > consider _it's inclusion in the base distribution_ to be AEBM. While you > > I don't see the difference from the POV of this discussion so this > paragraph of yours doesn't really parse for me. > > > In any case, I see none of this bloatist v. antibloatist propaganda > > as cogent here. Tcl should not be part of the base system because it > > It's imminently cogent - this is NOT just a technical issue, it's > an emotional one, and if you think that all software decisions are > made on purely technical merits then I have a certain tower in Paris > which I could make you a _great_ deal on. ;-) Just want one clarification. Most of you who've talked with me know I am not one of the anti-bloatists (I like _big_ disks), so I want to make sure that having tcl out of the tree is not singularly associated with being an anti-bloatist. Everyone knows that tcl and tk are like siamese twins, bodily joined, and only separated at great risk. Don't tell me that we can't have tk in the tree, I know it requires X, and I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying that tcl requires tk, and if we can't have tk, we mustn't have tcl. All the other BSD environments are very friendly to tcl applications, so why does FreeBSD have to have such a tcl unfriendly environment? If we didn't have tcl ports, the complaint level would be even higher. It just seems like a scene from Catch-22. Why is FreeBSD a hard system to build tcl apps on? Because we like tcl ... does that make sense? This argument is not really centered on being bloatist, at least not totally. I would fight taking perl out of the kernel (I want perl5.004 brought in) but I'll be pleased to see tcl make an exit. Might a compromise be made, let tcl go away, in exchange for updating perl? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------