From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Oct 5 09:31:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA28114 for smp-outgoing; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.0.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28103 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.8.7/D) id UAA02764; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:30:44 +0400 (MSD) Posted-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:30:44 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <19971005203044.13298@skraldespand.demos.su> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:30:44 +0400 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: smp@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.75 Organization: Demos Company, Ltd., Moscow, Russian Federation. X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, wouldn't it be usefull to link some kind of index.html to SMP.html at http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/? I.e. to set some kind of default page.. Just a thought, -mishania From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Oct 5 11:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA03900 for smp-outgoing; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.0.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03895 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.8.7/D) id WAA08509; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:40:13 +0400 (MSD) Posted-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:40:13 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <19971005224012.12149@skraldespand.demos.su> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:40:12 +0400 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: Steve Passe Cc: smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/ References: <19971005203044.13298@skraldespand.demos.su> <199710051758.LAA16502@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.75 In-Reply-To: <199710051758.LAA16502@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>; from Steve Passe on Sun, Oct 05, 1997 at 11:58:59AM -0600 Organization: Demos Company, Ltd., Moscow, Russian Federation. X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 05, 1997 at 11:58:59AM -0600, Steve Passe wrote: > Hi, > > > Hello, > > > > wouldn't it be usefull to link some kind of index.html to SMP.html at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/? I.e. to set some kind of default page.. > > Sorry, but I don't understand what your suggesting, more detail please? ln -s SMP.html index.html ;) Or maybe some new 'root' file, like, see what we getnow: Index of /~fsmp Index of /~fsmp Name Last modified Size Description [DIR] [1]Parent Directory 05-Oct-97 09:30 - [DIR] [2]HomeAuto/ 05-Sep-97 21:56 - [DIR] [3]Images/ 15-Dec-96 10:53 - [DIR] [4]SMP/ 23-Aug-97 14:01 - [ ] [5]SMPex 28-Apr-97 19:15 1k [DIR] [6]fruug/ 28-Apr-97 19:27 - If we cd to SMP, there is no some index describing what's available as well, - people would just usually guess by names, like SMP.html, hardware.html etc. That would be plainly convinient to have one, but that's not serious error lacking one now, of course. > Steve Passe | powered by -mishania From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Oct 5 12:57:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06471 for smp-outgoing; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06446; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17128; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:57:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710051957.NAA17128@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: smp@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: machine/up.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Sep 1997 07:34:19 +0200." <11169.873696859@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 13:57:33 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, awhile back I requested comment on adding a file. I think the winning reply was: > Why not simply have the code do a > > #include > > and in that file have > > #ifdef SMP > #define THIS_STUFF (lkjsdfgskdj) > #define THAT_STUFF (lkjsdfgskdj) > #else /* !SMP */ > #define THIS_STUFF /* Nothing */ > #define THAT_STUFF /* Nothing */ > #endif > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." If no one objects, I'll try to get to this within a week or so... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Oct 5 15:32:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA13723 for smp-outgoing; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 15:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13684; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fsmp@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18045; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:31:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710052231.QAA18045@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: smp@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, nnd@nnd.itfs.nsk.su Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile src/bin/sh Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cpp Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gdb Makefile src/lib/libpcap Makefile src/libexec/ftpd Makefile ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Oct 1997 11:47:20 MDT." <199710051747.LAA16424@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:31:51 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Here are my results with the new parallel-make capable files. I want to thank Nickolay Dudorov for having done most of the grunt work on this, good job Nickolay! --- build with NO -j, clean /usr/obj: # time make buildworld 7662.32s real 1410.24s user 6546.13s system 2 hours, 7 minutes, 42.32 seconds --- build with -j12, clean /usr/obj: # time make -j12 buildworld 6041.75s real 3632.54s user 5185.52s system 1 hour, 40 minutes, 41.75 seconds --- Time savings with -j12: 27 minutes, 0.57 seconds --- hardware summary: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Sep 26 21:55:35 MDT 1997 root@Victor.StevesCafe.com:/usr/src/sysdevel/compile/SMPV CPU: Pentium Pro (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62185472 (60728K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 12, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 17 on pci0.9. 0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 2061MB (4222640 512 byte sectors) sd1: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1: Direct-Access 2061MB (4222640 512 byte sectors) CPUs with 512k L2 cache, clocked at 200MHz --- SCSI disk setup: /dev/sd0s1h on /usr (local) <- disk #1 /dev/sd0f on /usr/src (local, noatime) <- disk #1 /dev/sd1g on /usr/obj (asynchronous, local, noatime) <- disk #2 --- /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -pipe --- changes to (-current) src/Makefile. Note that I have already committed these to freefall -current. *** Makefile.orig 1997/10/05 17:16:26 --- Makefile 1997/10/05 20:09:09 *************** *** 218,224 **** ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk -B ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} depend && \ ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${MK_FLAGS} all && \ ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${MK_FLAGS} \ ! -B all install clean cleandepend @echo @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" @echo " Making hierarchy" --- 218,224 ---- ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk -B ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} depend && \ ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${MK_FLAGS} all && \ ${IBMAKE} -I${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${MK_FLAGS} \ ! -B install clean cleandepend @echo @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" @echo " Making hierarchy" *************** *** 333,339 **** @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" @echo "Updating /usr/src from cvs repository" ${CVSROOT} @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" ! cd ${.CURDIR} && cvs -q update -P -d -r RELENG_2_2 .endif # --- 333,339 ---- @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" @echo "Updating /usr/src from cvs repository" ${CVSROOT} @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" ! cd ${.CURDIR} && cvs -q update -P -d .endif # -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 01:07:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA12331 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de (ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de [139.30.5.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA12326 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunther@informatik.uni-rostock.de) Received: from donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de (donau [139.30.7.135]) by ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de (8.8.5/8.8.5/relay3.0) with ESMTP id JAA29958; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:40:13 +0200 Received: (from gunther@localhost) by donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de (8.8.5/8.8.5/fin2.0) id JAA00909; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:40:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:40:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gunther Hipper Message-Id: <199710060740.JAA00909@donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de> To: dcarmich@mcs.com Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: VpEMoEfQJMq7xUQNgJnSLQ== Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there any way one can build large "Beowulf-like" clusters with FreeBSD and its SMP functionality? > Anyone built such a beast? > Hi ! I built a system with 16 nodes (Gigabyte Motherboard, 2*P150) running FreeBSD. Interconnection network is at the moment 4 FastEthernet Hubs, so each node is equipped with 4 FastEthernet Ports and a "slow" Ethernet for network-booting. MPI (based on LAM) and PVM are up and running on FreeBSD-SMP. Especially thanks to Steve. He helped me a lot concenring my No-File-System- Option, the PCI-Brigde and the EIDE-harddisk...... Works fine, but I need to install the latest FreeBSD-SMP code. At the moment, I'm stuck on some FreeBSD-Snapshot and working on my Ph.D. Thesis..... What do you want to do with the system? Bye Gunther From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 05:06:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA23552 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA23544 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA03597 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003571; Mon, 6 Oct 97 07:05:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA26046 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: make world parallelism anyone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else gotten a chance to do a make world with the new Makefiles that are -j safe? I did last nite, and noticed that a complete world (install and everything) was over an hour faster for me. Right now I am doing a make buildworld with a clean /usr/obj to test that out. Also, the make I did last nite only had -j 4, the make buildworld I am doing now has -j 12. I have a Tomcat II with dual 133, 64MB, EIDE disks. Just curious if anyone else has seen any improvements. Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group 7600 Boone Ave. N., Minneapolis, MN 55428 mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com "You do not greet Death, you punch him in the throat repeatedly until he drags you away." --No Fear From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 06:12:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26785 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA26759; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rminnich@Sarnoff.COM) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA12483; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:11:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:11:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: "Russell L. Carter" cc: dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710050116.SAA29007@cssunix.conceptual.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Russell L. Carter wrote: > Yes. > Now it is a curious thing that NFS server perf. is not considered, > but such is life. > In fact, there are lots of interesting questions to be asked, > but, who am I to ask them? you know how it goes russell, PR beats technical information every day of the week. For those who don't know, russell built a freebsd cluster at sandia in, what, ca. 1994 russell? ron From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 06:10:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26656 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA26614; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rminnich@Sarnoff.COM) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA12474; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:09:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: Douglas Carmichael cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710042258.RAA00924@dcarmich.pr.mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Douglas Carmichael wrote: > Is there any way one can build large "Beowulf-like" clusters >with FreeBSD and its SMP functionality? > Anyone built such a beast? well, yeah, i built such a beast and have had it running since 1994. Lots of pc clusters went up about that time, including beowulf. See the web page www.sarnoff.com:8000. This cluster paid for itself in well under a year, with real money mind you, not internal funny money accounting. It's quite nice. There's nothing very special about a beowulf: it's cheap PCs running linux. There's some value added in additional GSFC-written software, but not to the level that differentiates it in a big way. Beowulf is a special instance of a general idea, the compute cluster. People have been building compute clusters for almost ten years, some of them using up to 300 processors. (some names: Fermilabs; SCRI; an interesting site in Alabama of all places; Sun Labs [Mica]. All built 128+ processor clusters at least five years ago). A cluster based on FreeBSD would I suppose have to have a different name, but we've done a lot of computing over the last three years with such a cluster: works fine. To my regret, FreeBSD dropped a nice opportunity a few years back to have the first real distributed shared memory on a free Unix when I offered them MNFS, but them's the breaks. That distinction went to Linux instead. Beowulf is currently using my ZOUNDS DSM, but are in the process of rolling their own. I've checked theirs out and don't like it: it uses a model I abandoned as too inflexible 6 years ago. I'm sticking with ZOUNDS. Go for it. Oh yeah if you want the latest ZOUNDS let me know. The earlier version would not compile on 2.2 due to some #include stupidity on my part. I'll try to get the latest one out to the web page ASAP. Don't forget to pick a catchy name. That's at least as important as what you do. ron Ron Minnich |Java: an operating-system-independent, rminnich@sarnoff.com |architecture-independent programming language (609)-734-3120 |for Windows/95 and Windows/NT on the Pentium ftp://ftp.sarnoff.com/pub/mnfs/www/docs/cluster.html From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 06:23:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA27327 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA27321 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (Vxm4/+I/bJWDT1VJJDulfEr6QgF6PYiM@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA09800; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:22:51 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (5AY8kjvkKBpJPoFX3MIZMZAAmpZYZPF2@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23410; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:22:58 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710061322.PAA23410@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Kyle Mestery cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world parallelism anyone? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:22:58 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My "make world" (with a clean /usr/obj) is about 40 mins faster. I have a Giga-Byte GA586DX Dual P5/200 with onboard AHA 7880 (looks like a 2940). I only have one disk, and I'm sure this thing will _scream_ with two (the other for /usr/obj. M Kyle Mestery wrote: > Has anyone else gotten a chance to do a make world with the new Makefiles > that are -j safe? I did last nite, and noticed that a complete world > (install and everything) was over an hour faster for me. Right now I am > doing a make buildworld with a clean /usr/obj to test that out. Also, the > make I did last nite only had -j 4, the make buildworld I am doing now has > -j 12. I have a Tomcat II with dual 133, 64MB, EIDE disks. Just curious > if anyone else has seen any improvements. -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 09:44:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10212 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from cod.nosc.mil (root@cod.nosc.mil [128.49.4.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10188 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshaffer@nosc.mil) Received: from [128.49.16.48] (aegis.nosc.mil [128.49.16.48]) by cod.nosc.mil (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01294; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:57:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gshaffer@cod.nosc.mil Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:54:51 -0700 To: Kyle Mestery From: Greg Shaffer Subject: Re: make world parallelism anyone? Cc: smp@freebsd.org, gshaffer@cod.nosc.mil Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did a make world (-j12) yesterday after applying the patches I got from Jordan. I was very, very, very impressed with the speedup! Unfortunately, my system spontainiuosly rebooted in the middle of the compile (I have not had a chance to look into this yet) so I could not get any timing data. Greg Shaffer >Has anyone else gotten a chance to do a make world with the new Makefiles >that are -j safe? I did last nite, and noticed that a complete world >(install and everything) was over an hour faster for me. Right now I am >doing a make buildworld with a clean /usr/obj to test that out. Also, the >make I did last nite only had -j 4, the make buildworld I am doing now has >-j 12. I have a Tomcat II with dual 133, 64MB, EIDE disks. Just curious >if anyone else has seen any improvements. > >Kyle Mestery >StorageTek's Network Systems Group >7600 Boone Ave. N., Minneapolis, MN 55428 >mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com > >"You do not greet Death, you punch him in the throat >repeatedly until he drags you away." --No Fear From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 11:49:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA19051 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from usr04.primenet.com (tlambert@usr04.primenet.com [206.165.6.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19035; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15815; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:49:32 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710061849.LAA15815@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: rminnich@Sarnoff.COM (Ron G. Minnich) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:49:28 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ron G. Minnich" at Oct 6, 97 09:09:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A cluster based on FreeBSD would > I suppose have to have a different name, but we've done a lot of computing > over the last three years with such a cluster: works fine. I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... > To my regret, FreeBSD dropped a nice opportunity a few years back to have > the first real distributed shared memory on a free Unix when I offered > them MNFS, but them's the breaks. That distinction went to Linux instead. Same for devfs, same for reschedulable one-shot timers instead of DELAY() loops, same for a number of technologies. FreeBSD is very conservative. > Go for it. Oh yeah if you want the latest ZOUNDS let me know. The earlier > version would not compile on 2.2 due to some #include stupidity on my > part. I'll try to get the latest one out to the web page ASAP. > > Don't forget to pick a catchy name. That's at least as important as what > you do. "We've done flight testing, and it passed. We've done combat systems testing, and it passed. We've don'e manouverability testing, and it passed. We've done avionics testing, and it passed. And we've done ergonomic testing, and it passed. All tests passed, with flying colors. But the Air Force won't buy it until we can caome up with a mean sounding name." -- cartoon in Radio Electronics magazine Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 13:30:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA26180 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA26132; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atf3r@cs.virginia.edu) Received: from mail.cs.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa04444; 6 Oct 97 16:29 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.virginia.edu (atf3r@stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.14]) by ares.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03566; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from atf3r@localhost) by stretch.cs.virginia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21402; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: "Ron G. Minnich" , dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710061849.LAA15815@usr04.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > A cluster based on FreeBSD would > > I suppose have to have a different name, but we've done a lot of computing > > over the last three years with such a cluster: works fine. > > I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... You don't mean "Legion" as in http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~legion/ do you? These folks while open to newer and better hardware, they also seem to have become stuck on linux because it's what they could in stall on their desktops with IDE cdroms a long time ago. I tried to steer them into the light, but.... The name is derivative from the Herbert's "Dune" books. It's predecessor was "Mentat". Adrian -- adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| If I were stranded on a desert island, and System Administrator --->>>| I could only have one OS for my computer, Neurosurgical Visualzation Lab -->>| it would be FreeBSD. Think about it..... http://www.nvl.virginia.edu/ ->| http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 13:42:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA27592 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from usr04.primenet.com (tlambert@usr04.primenet.com [206.165.6.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27582; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25588; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:42:26 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710062042.NAA25588@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: adrian@virginia.edu Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:42:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" at Oct 6, 97 04:29:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... > > You don't mean "Legion" as in http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~legion/ > do you? These folks while open to newer and better hardware, they also > seem to have become stuck on linux because it's what they could in stall > on their desktops with IDE cdroms a long time ago. I tried to steer them > into the light, but.... > > The name is derivative from the Herbert's "Dune" books. It's > predecessor was "Mentat". Nope. Chuck is the BSD Daemon. "Legion" is a biblical reference; do the math. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 14:27:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA00111 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00106; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA16326; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01718; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710062126.PAA01718@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Terry Lambert Cc: adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710062042.NAA25588@usr04.primenet.com> References: <199710062042.NAA25588@usr04.primenet.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... .. > Chuck is the BSD Daemon. "Legion" is a biblical reference; do the > math. 8-). Legion in the Bible is translated to mean 'more than one Demon' (note the difference in spelling. Chuck is a singular entity, and one whose purpose is to do good, not evil. Nate From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Oct 6 18:56:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16335 for smp-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (tlambert@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16324; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03145; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:55:46 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710070155.SAA03145@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:55:45 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199710062126.PAA01718@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Oct 6, 97 03:26:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... > .. > > Chuck is the BSD Daemon. "Legion" is a biblical reference; do the > > math. 8-). > > Legion in the Bible is translated to mean 'more than one Demon' (note > the difference in spelling. Chuck is a singular entity, and one whose > purpose is to do good, not evil. Actually, "I am Legion (capital 'L') for we are many". So it was "many Demons". A Daemon is more properly compared with a Homonculus or Imp, I suppose, though I have met more than one person who, wearing a BSD Daemon shirt, was accused of "promoting devil worship". If you want to reference it with less alchemic and/or Biblical/Diabolical overtones: And forth he cald out of deepe darknes dredd Legions of Sprights, the which, like litle flyes Fluttering about his ever-damned hedd, Awaite whereto their service he applyes, To aide his friendes, or fray his enimies. Of those he chose out two, the falsest twoo, And fittest for to forge true-seeming lyes: The one of them he gave a message too, The other by him selfe staide, other worke to doo. -- The Faerie Queene, Book One, Canto I Which covers a cluster virtual machine ("true-seeming lyes": it's not a real single machine), and both message passing and multitasking. 8-). Hmmm... "Alchemy" has about the right ring to it, too. Plenty of cool names out there... ;-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 01:24:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08751 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA08743; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at) Received: from ws6303-f (root@firix [10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at with ESMTP id KAA05285; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:19:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ws6423.gud.siemens.at (ws6423-f) by ws6303-f with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA209842319; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:18:40 +0200 Received: by ws6423.gud.siemens.at (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA21886; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:17:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:17:32 +0200 From: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at (marino.ladavac@siemens.at) Message-Id: <199710070817.KAA21886@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> To: tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Cc: rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: fDp386tOHmAZwmLEp8+zDA== Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 22:43:43 MET 1997 > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:38 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: "Ron G. Minnich" , dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > A cluster based on FreeBSD would > > > I suppose have to have a different name, but we've done a lot of computing > > > over the last three years with such a cluster: works fine. > > > > I vote for "Legion", because of the obvious tip of the hat to Chuck... > > You don't mean "Legion" as in http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~legion/ > do you? These folks while open to newer and better hardware, they also > seem to have become stuck on linux because it's what they could in stall > on their desktops with IDE cdroms a long time ago. I tried to steer them > into the light, but.... > > The name is derivative from the Herbert's "Dune" books. It's > predecessor was "Mentat". How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over toys :( /Marino > > Adrian > -- > adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| If I were stranded on a desert island, and > System Administrator --->>>| I could only have one OS for my computer, > Neurosurgical Visualzation Lab -->>| it would be FreeBSD. Think about it..... > http://www.nvl.virginia.edu/ ->| http://www.freebsd.org/ > > From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 01:43:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09732 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09727; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA05379; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT) To: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at (marino.ladavac@siemens.at) cc: tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:17:32 +0200." <199710070817.KAA21886@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 01:42:27 -0700 Message-ID: <5361.876213747@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not > bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over > toys :( Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious little insects which often move from place to place in great numbers, eating and overcoming all in their path. It's a nice analogy for what we'd like to do, actually, and I believe it's referred to as a "plague of locusts" in that context, so if we wanted to draw some nifty insect analogies for massive distributed parallelism then I guess we could call such a cluster a "FreeBSD plague", or "a plague of FreeBSD machines." This would lead in turn to some pretty nifty sound bites, such as "Got plague?" or "The FreeBSD plague: Catch it today!" Yeah, I like it! It's got legs, gents! Let's do it!! Let's... What? I should stick to engineering, you say? But it's so *catchy*, I mean, haha, consider just the pun opportunities! No? Well fine, be that way then! [*sulk*] Jordan From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 04:03:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA17134 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from mother.sneaker.net.au (akm@mother.sneaker.net.au [203.30.3.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17124; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mother.sneaker.net.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mother.sneaker.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13876; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:56:21 GMT From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199710072056.UAA13876@mother.sneaker.net.au> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:56:21 +0000 () Cc: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at, tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5361.876213747@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 7, 97 01:42:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk +-----[ Jordan K. Hubbard ]------------------------------ | | > How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not | > bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over | > toys :( | | Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious | little insects which often move from place to place in great numbers, | eating and overcoming all in their path. How about the 'Hive' then for a group of industrious hardworking insects working in harmony... | Yeah, I like it! It's got legs, gents! Let's do it!! Let's... | What? I should stick to engineering, you say? But it's so *catchy*, | I mean, haha, consider just the pun opportunities! No? Well fine, be | that way then! [*sulk*] Where's the place where all the daemons play? HELL? d8) -- ,-_|\ SneakerNet | Andrew Milton | GSM: +61(41)6 022 411 / \ P.O. Box 154 | akm@sneaker.net.au | Fax: +61(2) 9746 8233 \_,-._/ N Strathfield +--+----------------------+---+ Ph: +61(2) 9746 8233 v NSW 2137 | Low cost Internet Solutions | From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 05:01:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA20016 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA19996; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcarmich@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (dcarmich@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id HAA27247; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dcarmich@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id HAA23184; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:01:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Carmichael Message-Id: <199710071201.HAA23184@Venus.mcs.net> Subject: Related to the "HyperPool" name To: jbryant@tfs.net Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:01:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebzxdfree[D[D[D@Venus.mcs.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Student: "Headmaster, I have found the perfect addition to our computing resources." Head: "What is it?" Student: "A HyperPool." Head: "What do you mean? We already have a pool in the athletic center." Student: "No, not that kind of pool. It'll be great. 1 gigabit per second ATM OC-48 infrastructure, twin 300 MHz Pentium II, the whole school can rock 'n roll all night, man." Head (in the stereotypical loud "NO" voice): "WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SEX, DRUGS, THAT STUPID F***ING ROCK 'N ROLL MUSIC, OR ANY KIND OF HIGH-SPEED POOL OR WHATEVER IT IS IN THIS SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!". (lots of pounding on desk, screaming by head/student) From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 05:41:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22540 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from firewall.ftf.dk (root@mail.ftf.dk [129.142.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22516 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk) Received: from mail.prosa.dk ([192.168.100.2]) by firewall.ftf.dk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20480; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:10:23 +0200 Received: from deepo.prosa.dk (deepo.prosa.dk [192.168.100.10]) by mail.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) with ESMTP id OAA24412; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) id OAA08263; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19971007143828.09310@deepo.prosa.dk> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:38:28 +0200 From: Philippe Regnauld To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD References: <199710070817.KAA21886@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> <5361.876213747@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: Main Body X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <5361.876213747@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Oct 07, 1997 at 01:42:27AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious Stop drugs. Actually, take the word "D A E M O N". Reverse it: "N O M E A D" Take out the E: "N O M A D" - N-Occurence of Multiprocessor, Associated and Distributed. *COINCIDENCE* ? Be serious, this is obiviously some sort of conspiracy cabale. I wouldn't be surprised if the White House, Freemasons, and The Penguin Alliance. -- -- Phil -[ Philippe Regnauld / Systems Administrator / regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk ]- -[ Location.: +55.4N +11.3E PGP Key: finger regnauld@hotel.prosa.dk ]- From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 06:21:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25062 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from star.cirrus.com (star.cirrus.com [141.131.7.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA25053 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clintw@colorado.cirrus.com) Received: from ss563.corp.cirrus.com (ss563.corp.cirrus.com [141.131.8.55]) by star.cirrus.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA16357 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:21:11 -0700 Received: from elbert.colorado.cirrus.com (elbert.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.11]) by ss563.corp.cirrus.com with ESMTP id GAA26695 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longs.colorado.cirrus.com (longs.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.55]) by elbert.colorado.cirrus.com with SMTP id HAA19047 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:21:00 -0600 Received: by longs.colorado.cirrus.com (4.1-Colorado/2.00) id AA04015; Tue, 7 Oct 97 07:21:00 MDT Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 07:21:00 MDT From: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) Message-Id: <9710071321.AA04015@longs.colorado.cirrus.com> To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > > Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious > > Stop drugs. > > Actually, take the word "D A E M O N". > Reverse it: "N O M E A D" > Hmmm... Mead is a fermented beverage... Programmers drink fermented beverages when the program works... NoMead implies it will never work... Bad Idea. clint From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 06:31:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25678 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from terra.Sarnoff.COM (terra.sarnoff.com [130.33.11.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA25655; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rminnich@Sarnoff.COM) Received: (from rminnich@localhost) by terra.Sarnoff.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA20146; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:25:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:25:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ron G. Minnich" X-Sender: rminnich@terra To: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at cc: tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710070817.KAA21886@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk swarm is taken. ron Ron Minnich |Java: an operating-system-independent, rminnich@sarnoff.com |architecture-independent programming language (609)-734-3120 |for Windows/95 and Windows/NT on the Pentium ftp://ftp.sarnoff.com/pub/mnfs/www/docs/cluster.html From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 07:58:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA01664 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from star.cirrus.com (star.cirrus.com [141.131.7.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA01659 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clintw@colorado.cirrus.com) Received: from ss563.corp.cirrus.com (ss563.corp.cirrus.com [141.131.8.55]) by star.cirrus.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA19981 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:57:31 -0700 Received: from elbert.colorado.cirrus.com (elbert.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.11]) by ss563.corp.cirrus.com with ESMTP id HAA29696 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longs.colorado.cirrus.com (longs.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.55]) by elbert.colorado.cirrus.com with SMTP id IAA19609 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:57:20 -0600 Received: by longs.colorado.cirrus.com (4.1-Colorado/2.00) id AA04051; Tue, 7 Oct 97 08:57:19 MDT Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 08:57:19 MDT From: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) Message-Id: <9710071457.AA04051@longs.colorado.cirrus.com> To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Whups, I sent that last EMail without a suggestion.... How bout 'Hydra' the nine-headed beast??? clint From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 08:17:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02756 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (ken@mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02750; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28930; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:14:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Kenneth Merry Message-Id: <199710071514.JAA28930@pluto.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710072056.UAA13876@mother.sneaker.net.au> from Andrew Kenneth Milton at "Oct 7, 97 08:56:21 pm" To: akm@mother.sneaker.net.au (Andrew Kenneth Milton) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at, tlambert@primenet.com, adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote... > +-----[ Jordan K. Hubbard ]------------------------------ > | > | > How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not > | > bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over > | > toys :( > | > | Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious > | little insects which often move from place to place in great numbers, > | eating and overcoming all in their path. > > How about the 'Hive' then for a group of industrious hardworking insects > working in harmony... The name 'Beehive' is already in use: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/aman/beehive/index.html Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 08:41:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA04490 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA04475 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrm@mole.mole.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA15189; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:41:32 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.20) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma015187; Tue Oct 7 15:41:24 1997 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA09380; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:40:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:40:58 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199710071540.IAA09380@meerkat.mole.org> To: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hydra is taken. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 09:11:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06734 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06721 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26282; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710071542.JAA26282@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Oct 1997 08:57:19 MDT." <9710071457.AA04051@longs.colorado.cirrus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:42:34 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > How bout 'Hydra' the nine-headed beast??? Hydra was the name of a pdp-11 cluster machine project done in the 70's at CMU. At its hi point it had 11 pdp-11/40s and 5 pdp-11/20s AND 2.5 MEGABYTES of core!!! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 14:24:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA24176 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:24:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24171; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:24:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08285; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:24:07 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710072124.OAA08285@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: ken@plutotech.com (Kenneth Merry) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:24:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199710071514.JAA28930@pluto.plutotech.com> from "Kenneth Merry" at Oct 7, 97 09:14:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > | > How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not > > | > bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over > > | > toys :( > > | > > | Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious > > | little insects which often move from place to place in great numbers, > > | eating and overcoming all in their path. > > > > How about the 'Hive' then for a group of industrious hardworking insects > > working in harmony... > > The name 'Beehive' is already in use: Palanquin. It even has an obvious graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons at the cross members, carryuing it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 15:27:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA28097 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from star.cirrus.com (star.cirrus.com [141.131.7.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA28088 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clintw@colorado.cirrus.com) Received: from ss563.corp.cirrus.com (ss563.corp.cirrus.com [141.131.8.55]) by star.cirrus.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA12707 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:17 -0700 Received: from elbert.colorado.cirrus.com (elbert.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.11]) by ss563.corp.cirrus.com with ESMTP id PAA22549 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longs.colorado.cirrus.com (longs.colorado.cirrus.com [198.90.142.55]) by elbert.colorado.cirrus.com with SMTP id QAA22860 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:27:06 -0600 Received: by longs.colorado.cirrus.com (4.1-Colorado/2.00) id AA04198; Tue, 7 Oct 97 16:27:05 MDT Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 16:27:05 MDT From: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) Message-Id: <9710072227.AA04198@longs.colorado.cirrus.com> To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Palanquin. > > It even has an obvious graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons at the cross > members, carryuing it. > Okay, I'll bite... What is a 'Palanquin'? It doesn't show up in my dictionary... Some suggestions: Concorde (grape clusters) Antfarm (individual machines are ants - same graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons) Galaxy (lots of little stars) Binar (StarTrek) Daemonds (In the rough?) More to follow :) clint From owner-freebsd-smp Tue Oct 7 18:08:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA06480 for smp-outgoing; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from usr08.primenet.com (root@usr08.primenet.com [206.165.6.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06475 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA11118; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:05:09 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710080105.SAA11118@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD To: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9710072227.AA04198@longs.colorado.cirrus.com> from "Clint Wolff" at Oct 7, 97 04:27:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Palanquin. > > > > It even has an obvious graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons at the cross > > members, carryuing it. > > > > Okay, I'll bite... What is a 'Palanquin'? It doesn't show up in my dictionary... A type of "sedan chair", usuaually carried by six or more slaves. It is Egytptian in origin. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Oct 8 00:15:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA27236 for smp-outgoing; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27227 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (qY/2aqpp7pZV/1SfEYa3HTztRnISWphq@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA13545; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:15:36 +0200 (SAT) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (EnE8pKU4ykeSU7r6D+Z+0mwHUIpReksn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01150; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:15:30 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199710080715.JAA01150@greenpeace.grondar.za> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: clintw@colorado.cirrus.com (Clint Wolff) cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:15:30 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Only one name works for me. Borg. M wrote: > > > > Palanquin. > > > > It even has an obvious graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons at the cross > > members, carryuing it. > > > > Okay, I'll bite... What is a 'Palanquin'? It doesn't show up in my dictionary ... > > Some suggestions: > > Concorde (grape clusters) > Antfarm (individual machines are ants - same graphic: a bunch of > BSD daemons) > Galaxy (lots of little stars) > Binar (StarTrek) > Daemonds (In the rough?) > > > More to follow :) > > clint -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Oct 8 01:08:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA01638 for smp-outgoing; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01566; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at) Received: from ws6303-f (root@firix [10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at with ESMTP id KAA24956; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:04:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ws6423.gud.siemens.at (ws6423-f) by ws6303-f with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036217854; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:04:15 +0200 Received: by ws6423.gud.siemens.at (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA19138; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:03:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:03:07 +0200 From: lada@ws6303.gud.siemens.at (marino.ladavac@siemens.at) Message-Id: <199710080803.KAA19138@ws6423.gud.siemens.at> To: ken@plutotech.com, tlambert@primenet.com Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: LJV+nun9xlhp3T0Tsc8W4w== Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 7 23:46:06 MET 1997 > From: Terry Lambert > Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD > To: ken@plutotech.com (Kenneth Merry) > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:24:07 +0000 (GMT) > Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > | > How about "The Swarm" then? It would have already been built had I not > > > | > bought myself a place to live instead. It had sort of a priority over > > > | > toys :( > > > | > > > | Hmmm. Swarm. That makes me think of locusts, those industrious > > > | little insects which often move from place to place in great numbers, > > > | eating and overcoming all in their path. > > > > > > How about the 'Hive' then for a group of industrious hardworking insects > > > working in harmony... > > > > The name 'Beehive' is already in use: > > Palanquin. > > It even has an obvious graphic: a bunch of BSD daemons at the cross > members, carryuing it. There is another one, obvious and probably taken, but: Phalanx n. 1 (in ancient Greece) close formation, esp. of infantry ready for battle. The graphic should be obvious, too. /Marino > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Oct 8 14:04:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14431 for smp-outgoing; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14406; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@hwcn.org) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05683; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA21911; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:05:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:05:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca To: Nate Williams cc: Terry Lambert , adrian@virginia.edu, rminnich@sarnoff.com, dcarmich@mcs.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building parallel "Beowulf-style" supercomputers with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199710062126.PAA01718@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > Legion in the Bible is translated to mean 'more than one Demon' (note > the difference in spelling. Chuck is a singular entity, and one whose > purpose is to do good, not evil. Hmm... Maybe "host"? :) -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk