From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 24 00:05:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA19277 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA19271; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA26985; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: heller@cdnow.com cc: kory@avatar.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig with aliases address complains In-Reply-To: <199708240507.BAA11041@daria.cdnow.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 24 Aug 1997, A. Karl Heller wrote: > Does this apply to "255.255.255.0" masks as well? *Any* situation where the alias overlaps the primary address. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 24 16:20:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28276 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 16:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28267 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from win95 (portA28.vision.net.au [203.17.23.140]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02533 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:20:47 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <34013FC8.20F4@natsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:18:16 +0100 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ADAPTEC 1520B SCSI CONTROLLER FREEZING COMPUTER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to use an Apdaptec 1520B SCSI controller with a Sony DAT tape drive, following is the machine configuration: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Aug 24 12:01:11 GMT 1997 root@natsoft.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/NATSOFT CPU: Pentium (150.00-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14786560 (14440K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7111, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7112, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq 10 [no driver assigned] chip2 rev 1 on pci0:7:3 vga0 rev 48 int a irq 9 on pci0:19 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A stli0 not found at 0x360 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1907MB (3907008 sectors), 3876 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:2:0): "SONY SDT-2000E E326" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty wt0 not found at 0x220 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface The 1520B controller appears to be a new Adaptec product, it has Adaptec AHA 1510/20/22B printed on the PCB, and is a plug & play device. Plug & play was disabled in the adapter BIOS. The initial FreeBSD installation was made from a SCSI CD-ROM using the Adaptec 1520B controller, and there were no problems. Tape rewind, eject commands etc work fine with the controller, however when using tar to copy files to the tape I am getting a 2 minute operating system freeze where num lock and caps lock will not work, I sometimes even had the hard drive light stay on for the duration of the 2 minute freeze. After 2 minutes I reveived the following error messages, and then the system returned to normal: st0(aic0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND info:2800 asc:4b,0 Data phase error tar IO error message st0(aic0:2:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info:1 asc:44,0 Internal target failure I tried the same card in a 486/66 with 2.2.2-RELEASE and encountered a similar freeze except that the numlock would work however no key input was accepted, ie ALT F2 to swap virtual console did not work. I tried the same card in the 486/66 with 2.1.7-RELEASE and encountered a freeze except that I could swap virtual screens, however no key input was accepted. In all instances the error messages were the same, and the computer returned to normal after the messages. Is this Adaptec 1520B supported by FreeBSD or do I have a fault with the controller? I replaced the 1520B with a 1542 controller and all is working fine. Thanking you in advance. Regards Craig Wilson NATIONAL SOFTWARE PTY.LTD. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 24 17:39:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02919 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.vision.net.au (saturn.vision.net.au [203.17.23.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02908 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from win95 (portA39.vision.net.au [203.17.23.157]) by saturn.vision.net.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14908 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:39:12 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3401522C.71F3@natsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:36:44 +0100 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: APAPTEC 1520B SCSI CONTROLLER FREEZING COMPUTER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to use an Apdaptec 1520B SCSI controller with a Sony DAT tape drive, following is the machine configuration: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Aug 24 12:01:11 GMT 1997 root@natsoft.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/NATSOFT CPU: Pentium (150.00-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14786560 (14440K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7111, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7112, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq 10 [no driver assigned] chip2 rev 1 on pci0:7:3 vga0 rev 48 int a irq 9 on pci0:19 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A stli0 not found at 0x360 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1907MB (3907008 sectors), 3876 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:2:0): "SONY SDT-2000E E326" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty wt0 not found at 0x220 npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface The 1520B controller appears to be a new Adaptec product, it has Adaptec AHA 1510/20/22B printed on the PCB, and is a plug & play device. Plug & play was disabled in the adapter BIOS. The initial FreeBSD installation was made from a SCSI CD-ROM using the Adaptec 1520B controller, and there were no problems. Tape rewind, eject commands etc work fine with the controller, however when using tar to copy files to the tape I am getting a 2 minute operating system freeze where num lock and caps lock will not work, I sometimes even had the hard drive light stay on for the duration of the 2 minute freeze. After 2 minutes I reveived the following error messages, and then the system returned to normal: st0(aic0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND info:2800 asc:4b,0 Data phase error tar IO error message st0(aic0:2:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info:1 asc:44,0 Internal target failure I tried the same card in a 486/66 with 2.2.2-RELEASE and encountered a similar freeze except that the numlock would work however no key input was accepted, ie ALT F2 to swap virtual console did not work. I tried the same card in the 486/66 with 2.1.7-RELEASE and encountered a freeze except that I could swap virtual screens, however no key input was accepted. In all instances the error messages were the same, and the computer returned to normal after the messages. Is this Adaptec 1520B supported by FreeBSD or do I have a fault with the controller? I replaced the 1520B with a 1542 controller and all is working fine. Thanking you in advance. Regards Craig Wilson NATIONAL SOFTWARE PTY.LTD. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 24 19:10:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07167 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.microserve.net (mail.microserve.net [207.44.0.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07157 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gkbox.my.domain (ppp15.respool1.phila.microserve.com [204.183.195.15]) by mail.microserve.net (8.8.5/naISPa) with ESMTP id VAA03525 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gkbox.my.domain (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07449 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708250144.VAA07449@gkbox.my.domain> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: link fails for named in RELENG_2_2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:44:06 -0400 From: Matthew Fremont Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm (still) having trouble building named with RELENG_2_2, after cvsup'ing again this evening, Aug 24 21:00. The problem is undefined symbols encountered when named is link-edited: cc -O -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/named/../../contrib/bind/include -DUSE_OPTIONS_H -o named version.o db_dump.o db_glue.o db_load.o db_lookup.o db_reload.o db_save.o db_secure.o db_update.o ns_forw.o ns_init.o ns_main.o ns_maint.o ns_ncache.o ns_req.o ns_resp.o ns_sort.o ns_stats.o ns_udp.o ns_validate.o storage.o tree.o db_load.o: Undefined symbol `___p_class_syms' referenced from text segment db_load.o: Undefined symbol `___p_type_syms' referenced from text segment db_load.o: Undefined symbol `___p_type_syms' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 I was able to find the symbols defined in res_debug.o of libresolv, but have no idea whether named should be linked to libresolv or have its own definitions of these symbols. Suggestions? Thanks, Matthew Fremont From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 24 21:06:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA15039 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA15031; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06343; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 21:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Kory Hamzeh cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: routed won't start (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Kory Hamzeh wrote: 3:30 > I'm reposting this message because 1) I did not get any replies, and 2) I > forgot to mention that every now and then, routed WILL start up OK. For > example, the last two reboots I did, it worked find. Sorry, but we're not *THAT* fast; we don't normally turn messages around in three and a half hours!! I've had a horrendous mail load otherwise I would have gotten to this earlier. > I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE, and I've enabled routed in rc.conf, but it > won't start. During startup, I see the following message: > > writing to route socket: invalid argument > add net default: invalid argument > > However, after the system comes up, I can type "routed -q" and it starts > up without a hitch. I have class C network with a 255.255.255.192 netmask. > > Is this a known problem? Did I do something wrong? I wouldn't worry about it. routed may be trying to stomp on some routes that are added just following it. If you don't need routed then disable it in /etc/rc.conf and those messages will go away. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major Spam routed to /dev/null by Procmail | Death to Cyberpromo From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 07:22:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA14359 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 07:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy (171-156-245.ipt.aol.com [152.171.156.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA14350 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 07:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708251422.HAA14350@hub.freebsd.org> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: Unexpectied New line character. Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:23:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried to check the error number using: echo $? which resulted in the error message "Newline character in variable name". Is this still broke our has it been fixed in later updates to the source tree? I am currently getting the CTM updates, and this occurs on STABLE 0395. Thanks, Scot From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 08:13:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA17564 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.88.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA17558 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 08:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu Received: by csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/1.0) id AA128968 (for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, from rdkeys/rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu); Mon, 25 Aug 97 11:22:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9708251522.AA128968@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19970825195938.31646@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Aug 25, 97 07:59:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, Aug 25, 1997 at 11:45:28AM +0200, Hartmann wrote: > > Dear Sirs. > > > > On which release is FBSD 2.2-STABLE based on? > > I don't know how to break this to you, but the answer is "FreeBSD 2.2". > > Greg > Not to pick at nits.... but, I am still confused as to what EXACTLY is the ``stable'' FreeBSD. Please enlighten me, and tell me the reasoning behind it. I read all the various manuals, faq's, .txt's and everything else that I can find, but it still is not clear. My interpretation is: 1. The ``stable'' FreeBSD is 2.1.7.1. (ref FBSD HBK 16.2.2 para 1, and 16.3.2.3 para 9) 2. A currently developing stable line is in progress based upon the current 2.2-RELENG tree (AKA the current 2.2-97xxxxRELENG daily snapshot). That, to me, means that 2.1.7.1 is ``cast in stone stable'', and the current RELENG snapshot is ``mostly 99.44% stable''. The mail I get from folks suggests 2.2 is the stable thingie and I have seen a reference tag to a 2.2-STABLE, and that 2.1.7.1 is basically history. If it is, why is 2.1.7.1 called stable in the FBSD HBK? Will someone please explain to me WHAT IS the stable FreeBSD, which version number it is, what the url to it is, and which bootdisk is the correct one to use to ftpinstall it????? That will help clarify the waters for me, and I am sure others, tremendously. Also, if it would be of merit, why not snapshot the handbook so it is current with the current development of FBSD? In my interpretation, and from what everyone says ``RTFHBK'', then I should consider it the ``bible'' of FreeBSD (actually it is the best reference to point to over the FAQ/.txt's, etc, from my experiences), it needs to be kept up to date like the sources. Thus, a daily snapshot might be of use. The May 19th date for the current handbook seems a little dated if anything other than 2.1.7.1 is the ``stable'' FreeBSD. Thanks Bob Keys rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 10:01:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA22781 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22746 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (webadmin@localhost) by adsight.com (8.8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16747 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Magee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Excite Search Engine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone installed the Excite Search Engine (BSD version) on FreeBSD 2.2.x? I'm having problems with the indexing function exiting with a signal 8 and sometimes dumping core. There's a Linux version as well but haven't installed any Linux software and don't know if there are problems with that. Thanks Sam From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 11:34:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA29656 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.avatar.com (ns1.avatar.com [199.33.206.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA29625; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.avatar.com (ns1.avatar.com [199.33.206.1]) by ns1.avatar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01892; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Kory Hamzeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I keep seeing this message printed on the console: inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' I also see similar messages with I try to "su". I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE. What is causing this and how can I fix it? Thanks, Kory From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 12:55:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA05142 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.nmarcom.com (root@host-034.nmarcom.com [207.181.124.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA05135; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.nmarcom.com (thelab@unix.nmarcom.com [207.181.124.34]) by unix.nmarcom.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03248; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Will 'Mit' Rowe" To: Kory Hamzeh cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Kory Hamzeh wrote: > > I keep seeing this message printed on the console: > > inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' > > I also see similar messages with I try to "su". I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE. > What is causing this and how can I fix it? > > Thanks, > Kory > > > If i remember, it's in the errata for freebsd 2.2.2-release... it sez something about getting the stable source tree and copying login.conf (or is it login.access from the source tree into /etc. Check the FTP site if no one clarifies before you get this. -Mit --- Will 'Mit' Rowe Systems Administrator/Programmer Neray MarCom, Inc. 25 Imperial Street, Suite 210, Toronto, Ontario, Canada vox: (416)481-5405 fax: (416)481-3741 http://www.nmarcom.com From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 14:19:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA10772 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [207.170.114.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA10765 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.8.7/8.8.6) id QAA00514; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970825161900.22230@pmr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:19:00 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: New libncurses broken with mutt Reply-To: Bob Willcox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mutt (v 0.81) no longer works correctly with the new libncurses (sup'ed and built this morning, 8/25). The index comes up with what looks like all spaces squeezed out. Renaming /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.1 to some out-of-the way name so that mutt again uses libncurses.so.3.0 allows it to work properly again. -- Bob Willcox Deliberation, n.: The act of examining one's bread bob@luke.pmr.com to determine which side it is buttered on. Austin, TX -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 15:45:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17427 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17414 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04397; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708252245.PAA04397@implode.root.com> To: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu cc: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:22:35 EDT." <9708251522.AA128968@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Not to pick at nits.... but, I am still confused as to what EXACTLY is >the ``stable'' FreeBSD. Please enlighten me, and tell me the reasoning >behind it. > >I read all the various manuals, faq's, .txt's and everything else that I >can find, but it still is not clear. > >My interpretation is: > >1. The ``stable'' FreeBSD is 2.1.7.1. (ref FBSD HBK 16.2.2 para 1, and > 16.3.2.3 para 9) > >2. A currently developing stable line is in progress based upon the current > 2.2-RELENG tree (AKA the current 2.2-97xxxxRELENG daily snapshot). > >That, to me, means that 2.1.7.1 is ``cast in stone stable'', and the current >RELENG snapshot is ``mostly 99.44% stable''. > >The mail I get from folks suggests 2.2 is the stable thingie and I have seen a >reference tag to a 2.2-STABLE, and that 2.1.7.1 is basically history. If it >is, why is 2.1.7.1 called stable in the FBSD HBK? > >Will someone please explain to me WHAT IS the stable FreeBSD, No, that is not what -stable is. The current head of each major branch that releases are cut from (e.g. 2.1.x, 2.2.x, and eventually 3.0.x) are refered to as "-stable" after the first release is cut. The designation -stable means "more stable than the most recent release on this branch". Of course, mistakes occasionally happen that make this untrue, but this is rare and has only happend on a couple of occasions for very short periods. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 21:28:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05714 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05707; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.148]) by madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl2/HALmailhost/97020422) with ESMTP id NAA09892; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.2W5/HAL) with ESMTP id NAA14621; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708260428.NAA14621@hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: kory@avatar.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-fingerprint: 5A A1 E6 D0 FF 96 FB F8 DE 23 EF 06 A1 76 94 E9 X-PGP-Public-Key-Location: finger -l pasqual@hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp or Home Page X-URL: http://www.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~pasqual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:28:03 +0900 From: "" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk kory> inetd[xxxx]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' kory> kory> I also see similar messages with I try to "su". I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE. kory> What is causing this and how can I fix it? This is a file I found at the FreeBSD ftp site. Hope this is helpful for others having the same problem as I've seen this question many times. jkh@time-> more ERRATA.TXT Last minute errata: ------------------- o login as root produces "login_getclass: unknown class 'root'" on system console. Fix: If you have the source distribution installed, simply cp /usr/src/etc/login.conf /etc otherwise, mount the 2nd CDROM and copy it from the live filesystem (cp /cdrom/usr/src/etc/login.conf /etc) instead. o sysconfig scrambles rc.conf if run again. Fix: Get updated /usr/src from RELENG_2_2 branch and build /usr/src/release/sysinstall, copying the new binary to /stand. If you do not have enough space for src then you could also use the boot/fixit floppy combo from a later 2.2-YYMMDD-RELENG release to simply mount your root partition (using the Fixit option) and copy /stand/sysinstall from the floppy to /stand on your root fs. Regards, Ajith. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ajith Pasqual - Hatori-Aizawa Lab., Dept of Info. & Comm. Eng., Univ. of Tokyo. Email:pasqual@hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (WWW)http://www.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~pasqual/ Key fingerprint = 5A A1 E6 D0 FF 96 FB F8 DE 23 EF 06 A1 76 94 E9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 25 21:38:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA06394 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA06389 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0x3DO2-00023n-00; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:37:50 -0600 To: Craig Wilson Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 1520B SCSI CONTROLLER FREEZING COMPUTER Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:18:16 BST." <34013FC8.20F4@natsoft.com.au> References: <34013FC8.20F4@natsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:37:49 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <34013FC8.20F4@natsoft.com.au> Craig Wilson writes: : The 1520B controller appears to be a new Adaptec product, it has : Adaptec AHA 1510/20/22B printed on the PCB, and is a plug & play device. : Plug & play was disabled in the adapter BIOS. This 152x series of boards use the 62x0 and 63x0 series of chips. The aic driver is know to be flakey on many of these boards doing many common things. Someone needs to find the time to fix this driver. I have the programming info and a couple of cards, but my personal life makes it impossible for me to do any work on them at the moment. I will keep your message in mind when I do try to start on it and use a tape drive in testing. : Is this Adaptec 1520B supported by FreeBSD or do I have a fault with : the controller? I replaced the 1520B with a 1542 controller and all : is working fine. while there is a small chance that the controller is bad, it is much more likely that you've run into limitaitons in our driver. The 1542 is a ROCK SOLID card that will give you YEARS of happy and faithful service. Warner From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 01:12:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA06398 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA06371 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.98.148]) by madoka.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl2/HALmailhost/97020422) with ESMTP id RAA16097 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:12:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp by hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.2W5/HAL) with ESMTP id RAA15534; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:12:31 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199708260812.RAA15534@hitomi.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Syncing disks X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-fingerprint: 5A A1 E6 D0 FF 96 FB F8 DE 23 EF 06 A1 76 94 E9 X-PGP-Public-Key-Location: finger -l pasqual@hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp or Home Page X-URL: http://www.hal.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~pasqual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:12:31 +0900 From: "" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi!, Could some one kindly explain the meaning of the numbers that appear after syncing disks .. during shutdown ? (just being curious and couldn't find it myself) E.g. in my machine when I shutdown I get : syncing disks 3 3 1 sometimes 6 6 3 or just 3 3 What do these numbers tell ? Sorry for my ignorance if this is something very basic. Thanks in advance. Regards, Ajith. From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 03:06:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01808 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 03:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soul.irex.urc.ac.ru (soul.irex.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA01788 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urc.ac.ru (localhost.irex.urc.ac.ru [127.0.0.1]) by soul.irex.urc.ac.ru (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00379 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:08:55 GMT Message-ID: <3402FF96.7363B010@urc.ac.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:08:54 +0000 From: Anton Voronin Organization: URC FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: perl4 now works differently? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure that this mailing list is just where I should post this because it's concerning perl4 included to the source tree as a GNU contribution. After upgrading from 2.2-stable source tree I noticed that when adding a new user, the adduser.message is sent to one without a proper evaluation of variables contained in the file: $fullname, $passwd, $name (the whole line containing a variable is excluded from the message). Looking to the adduser source I haven't mentioned anything unusual, it just evals every line of the file. When I try to execute adduser with perl5, it works properly. So why it now doesn't with perl4? Anton -- ====================================================================== Anton Voronin http://www.urc.ac.ru/~anton/ Ural Regional Center of FREEnet; Technical University of Chelyabinsk Phone: +7 (3512) 65-49-92 (office) E-mail: anton@urc.ac.ru ====================================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 07:01:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA11618 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gratia.it.hq.nasa.gov (gratia.it.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.119.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA11598 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov (WireHead.it.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.119.88]) by gratia.it.hq.nasa.gov (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA15853; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cshenton@localhost) by wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA16902; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <199708261400.OAA16902@wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov: cshenton owned process doing -bs To: dg@root.com Cc: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, grog@lemis.com Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700" References: <199708252245.PAA04397@implode.root.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.69 on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:00:51 -0400 From: Chris Shenton Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700 David Greenman wrote: dg> No, that is not what -stable is. The current head of each major dg> branch that releases are cut from (e.g. 2.1.x, 2.2.x, and dg> eventually 3.0.x) are refered to as "-stable" after the first dg> release is cut. The designation -stable means "more stable than dg> the most recent release on this branch". So would it be useful to create a CVSup target called "STABLE" or "STABLE_2_2" instead of "RELENG_2_2"? The RELENG and descriptions I've seen in the CVSup docs make it sound like it's the engineering release leading *up* to 2.2-RELEASE, rather than 2.2-RELEASE plus bug/security fixes which would make it stable. Sorry, I really didn't want to open up a can o' worms on this one again... From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 07:15:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA12585 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA12574 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11880; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708261414.HAA11880@implode.root.com> To: Chris Shenton cc: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, grog@lemis.com Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:00:51 EDT." <199708261400.OAA16902@wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:14:59 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700 >David Greenman wrote: > >dg> No, that is not what -stable is. The current head of each major >dg> branch that releases are cut from (e.g. 2.1.x, 2.2.x, and >dg> eventually 3.0.x) are refered to as "-stable" after the first >dg> release is cut. The designation -stable means "more stable than >dg> the most recent release on this branch". > >So would it be useful to create a CVSup target called "STABLE" or >"STABLE_2_2" instead of "RELENG_2_2"? In this case, the cvsup target is simply the name of the branch. When the branch is first created, a tag of the form RELENG_X_Y is assigned for the release engineers so that they can work on the release. It's not "stable" at that point, so it wouldn't make sense to call it that. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 08:10:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15522 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp20.portal.net.au [202.12.71.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15512 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00391; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:39:06 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199708261509.AAA00391@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Chris Shenton cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:00:51 -0400." <199708261400.OAA16902@wirehead.it.hq.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:39:04 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:45:14 -0700 > David Greenman wrote: > > dg> No, that is not what -stable is. The current head of each major > dg> branch that releases are cut from (e.g. 2.1.x, 2.2.x, and > dg> eventually 3.0.x) are refered to as "-stable" after the first > dg> release is cut. The designation -stable means "more stable than > dg> the most recent release on this branch". > > So would it be useful to create a CVSup target called "STABLE" or > "STABLE_2_2" instead of "RELENG_2_2"? No. RELENG_2_2 is the CVS branch tag which was peeled off -current to form the 2.2 branch; it is the tag from which all the 2.2.* releases will be derived. This is what happens when you let users that are used to being kept in the dark into contact with the development environment. The net result is generally beneficial, but the learning process can be painful. 8) mike From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 10:35:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24195 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.2.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24167 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.3/8.8.3a) id KAA02362; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:32:32 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199708261732.KAA02362@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:32:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com In-Reply-To: <199708261414.HAA11880@implode.root.com> from David Greenman at "Aug 26, 97 07:14:59 am" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In this case, the cvsup target is simply the name of the branch. When > the branch is first created, a tag of the form RELENG_X_Y is assigned > for the release engineers so that they can work on the release. It's > not "stable" at that point, so it wouldn't make sense to call it that. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project Since we've opened the can of worms again, would/could someone run down all the tags now in use? They're kinda hard to deduce. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-870-3330 chad@anasazi.com chad@anasaz.UUCP chad@dcfinc.com Anasazi, Inc. - 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120, Phoenix, Az 85020 From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 13:32:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06028 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.intercenter.net (mir.intercenter.net [207.211.128.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA06020 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13216 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1997 20:32:47 -0000 Received: from bigboy.intercenter.net (207.211.128.17) by mir.intercenter.net with SMTP; 26 Aug 1997 20:32:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:32:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bickers To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-Reply-To: <199708261509.AAA00391@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > So would it be useful to create a CVSup target called "STABLE" or > > "STABLE_2_2" instead of "RELENG_2_2"? > > No. RELENG_2_2 is the CVS branch tag which was peeled off -current to > form the 2.2 branch; it is the tag from which all the 2.2.* releases > will be derived. A few things I've noticed: 1) When I compile a kernel from the RELENG_2_2 source tree, I get a 'FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE' kernel. 2) The top of... ftp://releng22.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-970826-RELENG/RELNOTES.TXT ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ says... RELEASE NOTES FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE BRANCH 3) In 'stable-supfile' ... # The following line is for 2.1-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change # "RELENG_2_1_0" to "RELENG_2_2". ---------------- So, although I have yet to read something to the effect of "the RELENG_2_2 branch IS FreeBSD-stable", it sure looks that way to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong. --- Ron From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 15:17:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA12181 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA12160 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA27997; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 00:16:40 +0200 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05303 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:54:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00451 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:54:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708262154.XAA00451@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Tue, 26 Aug 97 23:54:11 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Excessive Ierrs from laptop to 2.2-Stable server Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am adding a laptop with win95-OSR2 to my server, running FreeBSD 2.2-Stable. Getting data from the server to the laptop, for example with ftp, works just fine: 400 KB/s. Putting data from the laptop on the server gives excessive ierrs: Ipkts:Ierrs is about 25%. I get a throughput of only 8 KB/s. The laptop runs Win95-OSR2, and has a Dynalink 1433QVC combined ethernet/modem pcmcia card. The server is a Pentium-166, 64 MB ram, and an SMC ethernet card: de0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:9 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:00:c0:1f:54:e8 There is also a NeXT on the network. Ftp-ing from the laptop to the NeXT works fine. No Ierrs at all. Ftp-ing from the NeXT to the FreeBSD machine works fine too. There's coax between all the machines. I tried the laptop at home and at the office where I have a similar FreeBSD machine. Same results. At the office there are a bunch of other pc's with win95 on the net that all work fine. Any ideas? What else can I check? Many thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 16:13:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15373 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp20.portal.net.au [202.12.71.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15360 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01715; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:41:25 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199708262311.IAA01715@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ron Bickers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:32:47 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:41:23 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > So, although I have yet to read something to the effect of "the RELENG_2_2 > branch IS FreeBSD-stable", it sure looks that way to me. > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. It would be more correct to say that 2.2-STABLE is the current state of the RELENG_2_2 branch. mike From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 16:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15662 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synertec.ene.UnB.br (synertec.ene.UnB.br [164.41.46.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15652 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost) by synertec.ene.UnB.br (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA06822 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:19:38 -0300 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:19:38 -0300 (EST) From: FreeBSD To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: DPT scsi card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know this is not the forum to ask this but... Are there any drivers for the DPT (EATA) scsi cards? There are drivers for BSDI at ftp.dpt.com and I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to port it to *BSD, would it? Otherwise, are there any RAID options for FreeBSD, besides host/os independent solutions (which are too expensive)? Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 18:02:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA21866 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.intercenter.net (mir.intercenter.net [207.211.128.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA21851 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16355 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1997 01:02:11 -0000 Received: from ct1-11.intercenter.net (HELO oz.intercenter.net) (207.211.129.44) by mir.intercenter.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 1997 01:02:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:01:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ron Bickers To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE In-Reply-To: <199708262311.IAA01715@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > So, although I have yet to read something to the effect of "the RELENG_2_2 > > branch IS FreeBSD-stable", it sure looks that way to me. > > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > It would be more correct to say that 2.2-STABLE is the current state of > the RELENG_2_2 branch. Thanks. Would someone who knows more about the label "FreeBSD-stable" include the details on where it comes from in the FreeBSD-stable section of the handbook? There may be less confusion over where this "stable" branch (that isn't actually named 'stable') is found. Sound reasonable? --- Ron From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 19:29:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA27478 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (root@gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27473 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA20845 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22241 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA10102 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199708270229.TAA10102@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:29:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: Ron Bickers "Re: 2.2-STABLE" (Aug 26, 9:01pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Aug 26, 9:01pm, Ron Bickers wrote: } Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE } } Would someone who knows more about the label "FreeBSD-stable" include the } details on where it comes from in the FreeBSD-stable section of the } handbook? There may be less confusion over where this "stable" branch } (that isn't actually named 'stable') is found. Sound reasonable? I think it would also lessen confusion to split this list, since there are now 2.1-stable and 2.2-stable branches. Folks often send messages here saying they're running -stable, but they don't specify which one. --- Truck From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 20:06:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00450 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (root@mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00445 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25109; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708270306.UAA25109@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: FreeBSD cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT scsi card In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 26 Aug 97 20:19:38 -0300. Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:06:24 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I know this is not the forum to ask this but... Are there any drivers for >the DPT (EATA) scsi cards? There are drivers for BSDI at ftp.dpt.com and I >suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to port it to *BSD, would it? Yes -- I'm sure others will fill you in on the capabilities of FreeBSD's DPT driver. >Otherwise, are there any RAID options for FreeBSD, besides host/os >independent solutions (which are too expensive)? You can do RAID in software with the ccd (concatenated disk) driver. There are FreeBSD and NetBSD servers running this all over the place. It's rock solid extremely fast. Of course, a DPT controller with cache RAM on it will be faster, mainly because of the extra cache. But spreading a bunch of SCSI drives over two or three NCR 8xx-based SCSI cards can be considerably less expensive, and still extremely fast. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 21:24:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA04706 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA04687 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12356; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 21:16:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: FreeBSD , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT scsi card In-Reply-To: <199708270306.UAA25109@MindBender.serv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > You can do RAID in software with the ccd (concatenated disk) driver. > There are FreeBSD and NetBSD servers running this all over the place. > It's rock solid extremely fast. I wouldn't call ccd a RAID solution. The "R" in RAID stands for redundant, and ccd has poor support for that. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net > Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. > Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. > > --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- > NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, > Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... > NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 22:30:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA10104 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (root@mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA10048 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA25841; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708270529.WAA25841@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tom cc: FreeBSD , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT scsi card In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 26 Aug 97 21:16:49 -0700. Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:28:42 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: >> You can do RAID in software with the ccd (concatenated disk) driver. >> There are FreeBSD and NetBSD servers running this all over the place. >> It's rock solid extremely fast. > I wouldn't call ccd a RAID solution. The "R" in RAID stands for >redundant, and ccd has poor support for that. While that was the original "definition", RAID had become to be known for more than simple redudancy in common usage. Striping without fault tolerance is a very common usage, which generally falls under the term "RAID-5", if I'm not mistaken. >From what I understand, ccd can be used for mirroring. However, recovery in case of failure is not automatic, and you can't mix mirroring with striping. So, yes, if you're using ccd to stripe for performance, you don't get any redundancy features with ccd. If you use it for mirroring, it's likely that you won't get any performance benefits. DPT controllers are reported to do all that stuff transparently in hardware. And, the FreeBSD driver supports basic functionality on DPT cards. However, it isn't clear how much advanced functionality the FreeBSD DPT driver supports. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 23:10:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA11779 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11768 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12582; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:03:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: FreeBSD , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT scsi card In-Reply-To: <199708270529.WAA25841@MindBender.serv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > >On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > >> You can do RAID in software with the ccd (concatenated disk) driver. > >> There are FreeBSD and NetBSD servers running this all over the place. > >> It's rock solid extremely fast. > > > I wouldn't call ccd a RAID solution. The "R" in RAID stands for > >redundant, and ccd has poor support for that. > > While that was the original "definition", RAID had become to be known > for more than simple redudancy in common usage. Striping without > fault tolerance is a very common usage, which generally falls under > the term "RAID-5", if I'm not mistaken. Err.. no. Striping without reduncancy has become known as RAID-0. > From what I understand, ccd can be used for mirroring. However, > recovery in case of failure is not automatic, and you can't mix > mirroring with striping. > > So, yes, if you're using ccd to stripe for performance, you don't get > any redundancy features with ccd. If you use it for mirroring, it's > likely that you won't get any performance benefits. ccd should be able to improve read performance while reading, but I don't know if it does. > DPT controllers are reported to do all that stuff transparently in > hardware. And, the FreeBSD driver supports basic functionality on DPT > cards. However, it isn't clear how much advanced functionality the > FreeBSD DPT driver supports. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net > Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. > Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. > > --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- > NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, > Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... > NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 23:47:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14222 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca9-08.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14202 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id XAA13256; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708270645.XAA13256@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net CC: tom@uniserve.com, freebsd@synertec.ene.unb.br, stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199708270529.WAA25841@MindBender.serv.net> (michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Subject: Re: DPT scsi card From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * While that was the original "definition", RAID had become to be known * for more than simple redudancy in common usage. Striping without * fault tolerance is a very common usage, which generally falls under * the term "RAID-5", if I'm not mistaken. That's called RAID-0 according to the original paper. And no, that is not a really common use of the term -- when someone says "do you do raid on your disk array?" they usually mean RAID-N where N>0. * From what I understand, ccd can be used for mirroring. However, * recovery in case of failure is not automatic, and you can't mix * mirroring with striping. I'm not sure what you mean by "mix" here, but the "mirroring" in ccd includes striping if you have >3 disks. I.e., you use 2N disks to get N times each disk's capacity. * So, yes, if you're using ccd to stripe for performance, you don't get * any redundancy features with ccd. If you use it for mirroring, it's * likely that you won't get any performance benefits. If you use it to mirror >3 disks, it will usually be faster than one disk. (There are some penalties on write, but I won't get into that.) * DPT controllers are reported to do all that stuff transparently in * hardware. And, the FreeBSD driver supports basic functionality on DPT * cards. However, it isn't clear how much advanced functionality the * FreeBSD DPT driver supports. It has RAID-5 (parity), which just cannot be done in software efficiently. That is reason enough for a lot of people. (Also, I've heard some horror stories about data loss on software RAID-5 products such as Sun's DiskSuite, but that's another story, as it is possible to make those bug-free, at least in theory. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 26 23:55:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14738 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14729 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 23:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA08293; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:53:24 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199708270653.IAA08293@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: perl4 now works differently? In-Reply-To: <3402FF96.7363B010@urc.ac.ru> from Anton Voronin at "Aug 26, 97 04:08:54 pm" To: anton@urc.ac.ru (Anton Voronin) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:53:24 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After upgrading from 2.2-stable source tree I noticed that when adding a > new user, the adduser.message is sent to one without a proper evaluation > of variables contained in the file: $fullname, $passwd, $name (the whole > line containing a variable is excluded from the message). Looking to the > adduser source I haven't mentioned anything unusual, it just evals every > line of the file. When I try to execute adduser with perl5, it works > properly. So why it now doesn't with perl4? I have a perl script here (Plexus) that we have used for more than a year and it suddenly don't want to work anymore. A month ago it still worked. I have just changed it to use perl5 and it is working again. The error message that I get is: ====== -s: not found Identifier too long at (eval) line 1, line 33. ====== I think somewhere during the security fixes something broke, but I haven't looked into it yet. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 01:40:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA20083 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Contrib.Com (mail.Contrib.Com [194.77.12.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA20028 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from src@localhost) by mail.Contrib.Com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA01852; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:39:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:39:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708270839.KAA01852@mail.Contrib.Com> From: Heiko Blume To: freebsd@synertec.ene.UnB.br CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from FreeBSD on Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:19:38 -0300 (EST)) Subject: Re: DPT scsi card Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Otherwise, are there any RAID options for FreeBSD, besides host/os independent solutions (which are too expensive)? actually, we use a host/os independent RAID from infortrend which is priced very reasonable. you can buy the controller alone and add the disks you like. see http://www.infortrend.com/ for more. hb From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 01:47:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA20457 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Contrib.Com (mail.Contrib.Com [194.77.12.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA20452 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from src@localhost) by mail.Contrib.Com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA01933; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:45:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:45:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708270845.KAA01933@mail.Contrib.Com> From: Heiko Blume To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net CC: tom@uniserve.com, freebsd@synertec.ene.UnB.br, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708270529.WAA25841@MindBender.serv.net> (michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Subject: Re: DPT scsi card Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i knew i had some URL for that. here it is. http://www.i-Connect.Net/~mike/scsi/dpt/freebsd.html it seems we have to wait some more. hb From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 01:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA20537 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Contrib.Com (mail.Contrib.Com [194.77.12.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA20532 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 01:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from src@localhost) by mail.Contrib.Com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA01962; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:47:54 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:47:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708270847.KAA01962@mail.Contrib.Com> From: Heiko Blume To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net CC: tom@uniserve.com, freebsd@synertec.ene.UnB.br, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708270529.WAA25841@MindBender.serv.net> (michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Subject: Re: DPT scsi card Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk oops, that URL was out of date. http://www.uni-mainz.de/~neuffer/scsi/dpt/ hb From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 02:52:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA23167 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca9-08.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA23162 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id CAA14284; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708270952.CAA14284@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: large number of logins and utmp From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just noticed that after increasing the number of pty's to 64, none of my ttyq xterm's except ttyq0 are registered in utmp. I tried slogin, rlogin and telnet, none of them registered their tty either. === >> od -c /var/run/utmp | grep q 0000000 t t y q 0 \0 \0 \0 a s a m i \0 \0 \0 0003060 t t y p q \0 \0 \0 a s a m i \0 \0 \0 >> ps gx | grep q 12280 pq Is 0:00.09 bash 14165 pr S+ 0:00.01 grep q 12254 q0 Is 0:00.09 bash 12250 q1 Is 0:00.09 bash 12245 q2 Is 0:00.09 bash 12199 q3 Is 0:00.09 bash 12232 q4 Is 0:00.09 bash 12229 q5 Is+ 0:00.09 bash 12226 q6 Is 0:00.09 bash 12222 q7 Is 0:00.09 bash 12219 q8 Is 0:00.09 bash 12813 q8 S+ 0:01.02 tail -n-100 -f /var/log/messages 12217 q9 Is 0:00.09 bash 12216 qa Is 0:00.09 bash === Is this normal? Also, "ttyq0" appears in the first line of "who", which appears odd to me. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 02:53:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA23253 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca9-08.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA23243 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id CAA14292; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708270953.CAA14292@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: large number of logins and utmp From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wrote: > I just noticed that after increasing the number of pty's to 64, none > of my ttyq xterm's except ttyq0 are registered in utmp. I tried > slogin, rlogin and telnet, none of them registered their tty either. Forgot to write, I am running 2.2-stable (compiled just a couple of hours ago). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 03:30:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA24667 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 03:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA24662 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 03:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA20780; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:29:55 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199708271029.MAA20780@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: large number of logins and utmp In-Reply-To: <199708270952.CAA14284@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from Satoshi Asami at "Aug 27, 97 02:52:18 am" To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:29:55 +0200 (SAT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just noticed that after increasing the number of pty's to 64, none > of my ttyq xterm's except ttyq0 are registered in utmp. I tried > slogin, rlogin and telnet, none of them registered their tty either. > ... > > Is this normal? Also, "ttyq0" appears in the first line of "who", > which appears odd to me. > Did you update your /etc/ttys file? I think that if they are not listed in there, they don't show up in utmp. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 08:45:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA10186 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA10172 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14121; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:29:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Heiko Blume cc: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net, freebsd@synertec.ene.UnB.br, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT scsi card In-Reply-To: <199708270845.KAA01933@mail.Contrib.Com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Heiko Blume wrote: > i knew i had some URL for that. here it is. > > http://www.i-Connect.Net/~mike/scsi/dpt/freebsd.html > > it seems we have to wait some more. > > hb > That page is obsolete. The DPT driver is available, for testing, as patches to 2.2-stable and current from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net/crash Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 10:33:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17616 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p60.global2000.net (root@315-dialup-9.global2000.net [208.133.142.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17558 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13318.871560562@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Griff Enterprises From: "Eric A. Griff" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Heads up! FreeBSD 2.2.5 freeze is just 30 days away. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 14-Aug-97 Jordan K. Hubbard spewed out Heads up! FreeBSD 2.2.5 freeze is jus t 30 days away. >Since people received so little warning with 2.2.2, "the stealth >release", I'm now erring a bit more on the other side of caution and >giving people plenty of advance warning of my intention to release >FreeBSD 2.2.5 at the end of September, a realistic final cut-off date >for changes being September 15th. ... > Jordan Why that's great. I was saying 2 minutes before reading this (really) that maybe it is time to actually get a CD. Ever since 2.1.5 (started there), I have cvsuped. 2.1.5-3.0-2.2-STABLE.. I was figuring I'd wait til the next release, since it wouldn't make sense to go backwards (last cvsup about 7 hours ago). And thanks to all who made it possible :) ---------------------------------------------- Eric A. Griff RD#1 Box 372 Oneida, NY 13421 Phone: (315)495-2385 USA From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 13:43:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA04995 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA04985 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA22915; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:36:03 +0200 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00341 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:35:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA01098 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:35:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708272035.WAA01098@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Wed, 27 Aug 97 22:35:19 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Excessive Ierrs from laptop to 2.2-Stable server Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl References: <199708262154.XAA00451@daneel.stuyts.nl> X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I said: > I am adding a laptop with win95-OSR2 to my server, running FreeBSD > 2.2-Stable. Getting data from the server to the laptop, for example > with ftp, works just fine: 400 KB/s. Putting data from the laptop > on the server gives excessive ierrs: Ipkts:Ierrs is about 25%. I get > a throughput of only 8 KB/s. > > The laptop runs Win95-OSR2, and has a Dynalink 1433QVC combined > ethernet/modem pcmcia card. > > The server is a Pentium-166, 64 MB ram, and an SMC ethernet card: > de0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:9 > de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 > de0: address 00:00:c0:1f:54:e8 > > There is also a NeXT on the network. Ftp-ing from the laptop to the > NeXT works fine. No Ierrs at all. Ftp-ing from the NeXT to the FreeBSD > machine works fine too. > > There's coax between all the machines. I tried the laptop at home and at > the office where I have a similar FreeBSD machine. Same results. At the > office there are a bunch of other pc's with win95 on the net that all work > fine. > > Any ideas? What else can I check? I saw in the de0 driver that it prints out diagnostics when compiled with DIAGNOSTIC, so I tried that. These are the errors I see on the console: Aug 27 22:30:32 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error Aug 27 22:30:35 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error Aug 27 22:30:37 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc So, what could cause this? Is this bad hardware, a driver problem, or what? Please, any help appreciated. Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 15:00:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA12445 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gvr.gvr.org (root@gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA12432 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from guido@localhost) by gvr.gvr.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id XAA05954; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:56:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Guido van Rooij Message-Id: <199708272156.XAA05954@gvr.gvr.org> Subject: Re: Excessive Ierrs from laptop to 2.2-Stable server In-Reply-To: <199708272035.WAA01098@daneel.stuyts.nl> from Ben Stuyts at "Aug 27, 97 10:35:19 pm" To: ben@stuyts.nl Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:56:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ben Stuyts wrote: > I said: > > Aug 27 22:30:32 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > Aug 27 22:30:35 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > Aug 27 22:30:37 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > > So, what could cause this? Is this bad hardware, a driver problem, or what? > Is your cabling alright? -Guido From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 15:20:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA13639 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13634 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.6/8.7.3) id PAA01172; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708272220.PAA01172@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708271029.MAA20780@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> (message from John Hay on Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:29:55 +0200 (SAT)) Subject: Re: large number of logins and utmp From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Did you update your /etc/ttys file? I think that if they are not listed * in there, they don't show up in utmp. My face is red. You are right. However, I should mention that I did read the man pages of utmp(5) and login(1). Maybe we should mention something, where do you think would be the right place? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 16:45:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA18325 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fani.fidata.fi (fani.fidata.fi [193.64.102.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18315 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeta.fidata.fi (tomppa@zeta.fidata.fi [193.64.103.213]) by fani.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11841 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:45:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from tomppa@localhost) by zeta.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08934; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:45:14 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 02:45:14 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199708272345.CAA08934@zeta.fidata.fi> From: Tomi Vainio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SCSIDEBUG X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: tomppa@fidata.fi Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I use SCSIDEBUG kernel option there is one annoying thing with SCSI ID 9. /sys/scsi/scsi_debug.h says on line 26 /* target and LUN we want to debug */ #define DEBUGTARG 9 /*9 = dissable*/ and I think this is not nice when using wide SCSI adapter and you have device installed as ID 9. Tomppa ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32155N 0532" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors) sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 4177 cyls, 8 heads, and an average 125 sectors/track ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:1:0): "CONNER CP30540 545MB3.5 B0BD" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 520MB (1065912 512 byte sectors) sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 2242 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 79 sectors/track (ahc0:4:0): "ARCHIVE Python 03812-XXX 6270" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x8c, 512-byte blocks, write-enabled (ahc0:6:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-12TS 1.02" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM can't get the size probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done (ahc0:9:0): command: 0,0,0,0,0,0-[0 bytes] probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done (ahc0:9:0): command: 40,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0-[0 bytes] probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done (ahc0:9:0): command: 12,0,0,0,2c,0-[44 bytes] ------------------------------ 000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 016: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 032: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ------------------------------ -- Tomi Vainio, Fimeko-Data Oy Phone: +358 (0)9 4582421 Mail: tomppa@iki.fi tomppa@fidata.fi Telefax: +358 (0)9 4582425 From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 20:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA02949 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca9-08.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA02940; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id UAA29808; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708280305.UAA29808@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: imp@freebsd.org CC: stable@freebsd.org Subject: issetugid() compilation error in -stable From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner, Make world fails as of a few hours ago in bin/csh. === cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I/l/src/bin/csh -I. -DBUILTIN -DFILEC -DNLS -DSHORT_STRINGS -I/usr/obj/l/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o csh alloc.o char.o const.o csh.o dir.o dol.o err.o exec.o exp.o file.o func.o glob.o hist.o init.o lex.o misc.o parse.o prin tf.o proc.o sem.o set.o str.o time.o glob.o: Undefined symbol `_issetugid' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. === I see that you are the last person who touched libc/gen/glob.c, so I'm bouncing this to you. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 20:49:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA04497 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA04491; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA11548; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:49:23 -0700 (PDT) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: imp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: issetugid() compilation error in -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:05:25 PDT." <199708280305.UAA29808@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:49:23 -0700 Message-ID: <11545.872740163@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It actually wasn't dying in csh, it was dying in libc's glob.o (which called issetugid() as per a patch by ache, slightly neglecting the fact that issetugid() isn't *in* 2.2 yet :-). I fixed it already this evening. Jordan > Warner, > > Make world fails as of a few hours ago in bin/csh. > > === > cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I/l/src/bin/csh -I. -DBUILTIN -DFILEC -DNLS -DSHORT_S TRINGS -I/usr/obj/l/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o csh alloc.o char.o const. o csh.o dir.o dol.o err.o exec.o exp.o file.o func.o glob.o hist.o init.o lex.o misc.o parse.o prin > tf.o proc.o sem.o set.o str.o time.o > glob.o: Undefined symbol `_issetugid' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > === > > I see that you are the last person who touched libc/gen/glob.c, so I'm > bouncing this to you. > > Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 20:59:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA04986 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA04980 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0x3vjS-0004tv-00; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:58:55 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: issetugid() compilation error in -stable Cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:49:23 PDT." <11545.872740163@time.cdrom.com> References: <11545.872740163@time.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:58:54 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <11545.872740163@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : It actually wasn't dying in csh, it was dying in libc's glob.o (which : called issetugid() as per a patch by ache, slightly neglecting the : fact that issetugid() isn't *in* 2.2 yet :-). : : I fixed it already this evening. Damn. I thought it was. Ooops. Jordan, did you fix it with the getuid() != geteuid() || getgid() != getegid() work around, or just back it out completely? Warner From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 21:11:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05458 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05453 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA11675; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:11:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Warner Losh cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: issetugid() compilation error in -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:58:54 MDT." Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:11:33 -0700 Message-ID: <11671.872741493@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Damn. I thought it was. Ooops. Jordan, did you fix it with the > getuid() != geteuid() || getgid() != getegid() work around, or just > back it out completely? I backed it out - it was just an extra added check (r1.9 of libc/gen/glob.c) Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 27 21:18:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05774 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca9-08.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05761; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id VAA00654; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708280418.VAA00654@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: imp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <11545.872740163@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: issetugid() compilation error in -stable From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * It actually wasn't dying in csh, it was dying in libc's glob.o (which That's what I said. :) * > I see that you are the last person who touched libc/gen/glob.c, so I'm Thanks for fixing it, btw. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 28 03:08:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA20203 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isolar.Tujunga.CA.US (root@[128.149.24.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA20197; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.tujunga.ca.us by isolar.Tujunga.CA.US (4.1/SATAN-6.6.6) id AA29967; Thu, 28 Aug 97 03:08:05 PDT Message-Id: <9708281008.AA29967@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US> To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US Subject: FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE: Why can't I disklabel a SCSI disk? Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:07:58 -0700 From: Greg Earle Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE on a Pentium 133 box: # uname -a FreeBSD xxxx1.jpl.nasa.gov 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: \ Wed Jun 4 21:45:18 PDT 1997 \ earle@xxxx1.jpl.nasa.gov:/usr/src/sys/compile/XXXX1 i386 I have 4 disks in the system. The system disk is a 2.1 Gb Seagate, and it had 2 other 4 Gb Seagate Barracudas in it. I noticed that one of the disks started getting MEDIA ERRORs on a regular basis, so I took a spare 4 Gb disk out of a sister clone machine that was (at one point) identically configured and stuck it inside. The disks are now: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci1:4 ahc0: aic7870 Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32550N 0011" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:2:0): "SEAGATE ST15150N 0017" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci1:5 ahc1: aic7870 Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc1 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc1:0:0): "SEAGATE ST15150N 0017" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ahc1:0:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) (ahc1:1:0): "SEAGATE ST15150N 0017" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(ahc1:1:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) The failing disk is sd3: [...] sd3(ahc1:1:0): RECOVERED ERROR info:858b1 asc:10,0 Id CRC or ECC error field replaceable unit: d7 sks:80,21 sd3(ahc1:1:0): RECOVERED ERROR info:858b1 asc:10,0 Id CRC or ECC error field replaceable unit: d7 sks:80,21 sd3(ahc1:1:0): RECOVERED ERROR info:858b1 asc:10,0 Id CRC or ECC error field replaceable unit: d7 sks:80,22 sd3(ahc1:1:0): RECOVERED ERROR info:858b1 asc:10,0 Id CRC or ECC error field replaceable unit: d7 sks:80,8 (Last one happened an hour ago) I wanted to back up the sd3 disk to the new spare disk, which is sd1. But I can't disklabel this spare disk! I can read the disklabel off of the other three 4 Gb disks with *no* problem ... but no go on sd1: xxxx1# disklabel sd0 | wc -l 26 xxxx1# disklabel sd2 | wc -l 24 xxxx1# disklabel sd3 | wc -l 23 xxxx1# disklabel sd1 disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument xxxx1# disklabel -r sd1 disklabel: /dev/rsd1c: Undefined error: 0 xxxx1# ls -l /dev/rsd1c crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 13, 10 May 13 21:43 /dev/rsd1c xxxx1# disklabel -w -r sd1 seagate15150 disklabel: /dev/rsd1c: No such file or directory The disktab(5) entry I tried cooking up for the Barracuda is: seagate15150|Seagate ST15150N:\ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:ns#78:nt#21:nc#5119:\ :pc#8384922:oc#0: If I ktrace this last command, it shows it successfully opening /dev/rsd1c, yet I get "No such file or directory"??? I don't get it ... Does anyone have any idea why I can't disklabel this particular disk? And why the O/S is pretending that /dev/rsd1c doesn't exist? It makes no attempt to write to the disk at all, apparently ... and I don't see any low-level SCSI driver diagnostics in /var/log/messages, either. I'm stumped. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Please respond directly to me and I'll summarize if anyone's interested. - Greg From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 28 03:32:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA21015 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA21009 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuyts by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA10602; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:02:12 +0200 Received: from daneel.stuyts.nl (daneel.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.7]) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16355; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:01:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from benst@localhost) by daneel.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01471; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:00:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708280900.LAA01471@daneel.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 11:00:54 +0200 To: Guido van Rooij Subject: Re: Excessive Ierrs from laptop to 2.2-Stable server Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl References: <199708272156.XAA05954@gvr.gvr.org> X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Guido van Rooij wrote: > Ben Stuyts wrote: > > I said: > > > > Aug 27 22:30:32 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > > Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > > Aug 27 22:30:33 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > > Aug 27 22:30:35 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > > Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > > Aug 27 22:30:36 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: alignment error > > Aug 27 22:30:37 terminus /kernel: de0: receive: 00:20:e0:0c:38:59: bad crc > > > > So, what could cause this? Is this bad hardware, a driver problem, or what? > > > > Is your cabling alright? > > -Guido Yes, of course. I checked other cables, but it didn't make any difference. And in any case, the laptop works fine on the same network to other computers. Just not to the FreeBSD machine. And the other computers have no problem communicating with the FreeBSD machine either. Ben From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 28 10:23:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10772 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alice.pcug.co.uk (qmailr@Alice.PCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA10763 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: jake@pcug.co.uk Received: (qmail 25053 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Aug 1997 12:15:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19970828121545.25052.qmail@alice.pcug.co.uk> Subject: login.conf, init and daemon class To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:15:45 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have trouble getting my named up in 2.2-stable with MAXUSERS=128 It runs out of memory and complains "no memory for more zone" and sometimes also qnew fails and it dies. adding "ulimit -a" in /etc/rc shows cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited file size (512-blocks, -f) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 16384 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 core file size (512-blocks, -c) 0 max memory size (kbytes, -m) 65536 locked memory (kbytes, -l) 61152 max user processes (-u) 256 open files (-n) 1024 so that's the problem obviously, but in /etc/login.conf there is: # # Settings used by /etc/rc # daemon:\ :coredumpsize=0:\ :datasize=32M:\ :maxproc=256:\ :maxproc-cur@:\ :memoryuse-cur=64M:\ :memorylocked-cur=64M:\ :openfiles=1024:\ :openfiles-cur@:\ :stacksize=16M:\ :tc=default: What is happening? How do I get rc to be run using the daemon class? Will adding "daemon" in master.passwd for root do it but why is that not the default? Regards, Jake From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 28 22:03:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA10929 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10873 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0x4JAA-0006bk-00; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:00:02 -0600 To: chad@dcfinc.com Subject: Re: 2.2-STABLE Cc: dg@root.com, cshenton@it.hq.nasa.gov, rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, grog@lemis.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:32:30 PDT." <199708261732.KAA02362@freebie.dcfinc.com> References: <199708261732.KAA02362@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:00:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199708261732.KAA02362@freebie.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Since we've opened the can of worms again, would/could someone run down : all the tags now in use? They're kinda hard to deduce. RELENG_2_1_0 This is the 2.1 branch of the tree. It is stable to the point of being stagnant and neglected. Some easy fixes are still made to this branch, but many bug and security fixes haven't been applied here. RELENG_2_2 This is the 2.2 branch of the tree. This has been declared to be the stable branch of the tree right now. It lags current in some areas, but has been better maintained than the 2.1 branch was at this point in its life. It is still active, but stable enough to run on a day to day basis. Other less common tags include: CSRG First import of all sources bsd_44_lite First import of all sources, baseline for everything. RELENG_x_y_z_RELEASE The tag (not branch) of the x.y.z release. RELENG_x_y_BP Branch point for the file to the x.y release branch. I don't quite understand why this was done, but I suspect it has something to do with being able to do -r RELENG_x_y_BP -r HEAD to see what has changed since things have branched (either with cvs log or cvs diff). Most of these can be found, should one forget, by doing a cvs log on /usr/src/Makefile (pipe it through more, you'll be happier). From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 29 02:31:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA23184 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA23178 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monet ([202.98.99.165]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24799 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:31:21 +0900 (CDT) Message-ID: <34069651.330E@public.bta.net.cn> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:28:49 +0800 From: Yong Liu Reply-To: yongliu@public.bta.net.cn Organization: Unisoft Technology Co. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Notebook Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.2 on a Twinhead 9133TZ notebook PC w/ the folloing configuration: Pentium 133/16M Memory/1.3G HD 12.1" TFT Display (Supports 800x600 at 60Hz non-interlaced) Trident Cyber 9385 card (2M memory) I also have a NE-2000 compatible PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1 into the PCMCIA dock. This dock has a Cirrus Logic PCMCIA controller built-in. The poblem I encountered are: 1. I could not make the PCMCIA recognized by FreeBSD. I reconfigured the kernel to include the PCCARD controllers and devices according the LINT config template. I also added the ed0 driver. It complains that "/dev/card0 not configured." when I run the "pccardc" command. BTW, this PCMCIA card really works fine under Win95. If changing the card may overcome this problem, I have a D-Link DE650 PCMCIA ethernet card at hand. 2. I have installed the XFree86 3.3.1 on my notebook. It runs good under the VGA16 mode when I set the following config: Video: VGA Chipset: Generic Card: Unsupported VGA Monitor: Standard 640x480 H-Refresh: 35.4 V-Refresh: 50-90 If I set the chipset to cyber938x, the screen gets a very low resolution with big dots. I tried the following configuration too: Video: SVGA Chipset: cyber938x Card: Trident TGUI9680 (generic) Monitor: Extended Super VGA (800x600 at 60Hz ...) H-Refresh: 31.5,35.4,... V-Refresh: 50-130 An what I got was a black screen after the "startx" command. But when I tried to switch between ttyv9 (graphic) and other ttys using the "CTL-ALT-F?" key combinations, I could see the xterm and xclock windows for a very short time (about 0.1 sec) and the screen went black again. I have read all the on-line documents, readmes and tried almost anything I could think out of. Could anybody give me some hints on these strange stuff? Or is FreeBSD is not so good as other free UNIX clones like Linux ? Your happy or bad experiences with FreeBSD on a notebook are also highly welcomed. Thank you in advance. From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 29 05:05:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA29416 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA29403 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 05:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from un1i@localhost) by rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA27645 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:04:44 +0200 (CES) Message-Id: <199708291204.OAA27645@rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Subject: MAKEDEV error To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:04:44 +0200 (CES) Reply-to: un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de From: un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Philipp Mergenthaler) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, [followup to a posting in c.u.b.f.m and mailed to freebsd-stable] serge@oneway.net wrote: > I buy a CD-R today and install on my FBSD box, after compiling > kernel and reboot, > > cd /dev/ > ./MAKEDEV worm0 > > result > > ./MAKEDEV: arith: syntax error: "" > > Help ....! I noticed the same error after cvsup'ing 2.2-RELENG (on 1997-08-25). The error occurs in expressions with the shift-left-operator, e.g.: # Control bit for SCSI scsictl=$((1 << 29)) When you remove one of the blanks surrounding the "<<", e.g.: scsictl=$((1 <<29)) the line is executed correctly! So just edit every occurance (there's another line where the operator occurs several times). At least, that worked for me...(I don't have a CD-R) This is really a strange error - it only happens, when -there are arbitrary (not totally sure) commands before the line with "<<" -the value to the right of the operator is 10 or higher (hm, is this because 1023 is some magic limit or because 10 is the first number with 2 digits?) - I should probably mention that I don't have SCSI. (BTW, what is scsictl? I didn't find a man page or other info.) (At least that's what I found out from playing with the above line. I didn't look much at the other occasion, which is this: dkminor() { echo $(($1 <<25 | ($2 / 32) <<21 | ($2 % 32) <<3 | $3 <<16 | $4)) } dkminor is called several times) The most minimalistic script where the error happens is: #!/bin/sh foo=1 export foo scsictl=$((1 << 10)) but it doesn't happen in: #!/bin/sh foo=1; export foo scsictl=$((1 << 10)) Now, what is the real error and what are merely preconditions? :-) Bye, Philipp -- P. Mergenthaler, un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de | Tel.: 0721/694532 | Klosterweg 28 / I609, 76131 Karlsruhe | http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~un1i/ | From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 29 21:56:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18697 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 21:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18692 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 21:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA08027; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:49:19 +1000 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 14:49:19 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199708300449.OAA08027@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za Subject: Re: large number of logins and utmp Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * Did you update your /etc/ttys file? I think that if they are not listed > * in there, they don't show up in utmp. > >My face is red. You are right. > >However, I should mention that I did read the man pages of utmp(5) and >login(1). Maybe we should mention something, where do you think would >be the right place? The bugs section for login(3). login(3) uses ttyslot() to find the record number in utmp, and ttyslot() is based on /etc/ttys. Adding, removing or reordering ttys in /etc/ttys, except by appending, also breaks utmp. Bruce From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 30 01:40:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA08917 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stage.birch.de (stage.birch.de [194.112.92.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA08900 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 01:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stage.birch.de (stage.birch.de [194.112.92.36]) by stage.birch.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22785 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:43:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:43:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Roberto Patriarca X-Sender: roberto@stage.birch.de To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe stable From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 30 10:26:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA25621 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from counterintelligence.ml.org (mdean.vip.best.com [206.86.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25616 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jamil@localhost) by counterintelligence.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23025 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:16:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld failing (this happened yesterday also after cvsup to RELENG_22) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbi n/pciconf/pciconf.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pciconf/pciconf.c:41: pci/pcivar.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/pciconf/pciconf.c:42: pci/pci_ioctl.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 30 15:45:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06152 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 15:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06144 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 15:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from new-world.cs.rice.edu (new-world.cs.rice.edu [128.42.6.103]) by cs.rice.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA12438 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 17:44:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark W. Krentel" Received: (from krentel@localhost) by new-world.cs.rice.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) id RAA06204 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 17:44:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 17:44:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708302244.RAA06204@new-world.cs.rice.edu> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: doc-all collection Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm unsure of the right way to maintain the docs (FAQ and handbook) now that they've been moved to /usr/doc. I'm tracking 2.2-STABLE and I'd like to keep a local copy of the docs. This is my cvsup file (I keep a separate file for ports). *default tag=RELENG_2_2 *default host=cvsup2.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix src-all src-secure doc-all 1. First, is doc-all like ports-all, where I use tag=. even though I use RELENG_2_2 for the sources? For example, the online handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html) is clearly taken from HEAD, even though the front page says that it covers Release 2.2.2. This makes me wonder what is the proper collection for doc-all. 2. I can build and install the docs by cd'ing to /usr/doc/{FAQ,handbook} and running "make ; make install". Didn't this used to be part of make world when they were in /usr/src/share/doc? Should it be again? 3. I noticed the CVS repository has /usr/doc/Makefile, but only for HEAD. Should there also be a RELENG_2_2 version? Perhaps someone in the know can explain the proper procedure. Mark Krentel krentel@cs.rice.edu Rice University