From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 07:13:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03092 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 07:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03086 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 07:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24851; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 09:13:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 09:13:30 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500 internal socket error In-Reply-To: <199706220448.VAA04236@kevin.sunshine.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 21 Jun 1997 kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net wrote: > This error message occurred at Sat Jun 21 21:42:12 PDT 1997 while > searching the `doc' archives at www.freebsd.org/search.html. The > only thing that could possibly caused this was I failed to change > from question and went back and re-searched to doc. I can't duplicate this. Do you have the exact query you submitted? -john From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 12:11:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18112 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18104 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13102; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Ick! Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It used to be possible to actually find something useful at www.freebsd.org. Now all I get is this marketroid nonsense. It's not at all obvious how to get to some basic resource like cvsweb.... -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 12:26:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18936 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18930 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29960; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:25:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:25:57 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Garrett Wollman cc: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ick! In-Reply-To: <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Garrett Wollman wrote: > It used to be possible to actually find something useful at > www.freebsd.org. Now all I get is this marketroid nonsense. It's not > at all obvious how to get to some basic resource like cvsweb.... Ahhh, the first dissenting opinion! All other comments on the new look have been praise, but anyway... Nothing beyond the home page changed and you will find a prominently positioned row of links just above the marketroid nonsense that duplicate the main links on the old home page. The only link that sort of got lost is for the gallery. -john From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 14:27:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24086 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24080 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA02530; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:27:25 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ick! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:11:39 EDT." <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: <2526.867014844@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It used to be possible to actually find something useful at > www.freebsd.org. Now all I get is this marketroid nonsense. It's not > at all obvious how to get to some basic resource like cvsweb.... What's wrong with "support"? And the CVSweb stuff wasn't any more pointed at before than it is now - if anything, there are _more_ links to the support page it's on now than ever. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 14:29:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24154 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24140; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199706222129.OAA24140@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Ick! To: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "John Fieber" at Jun 22, 97 02:25:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > It used to be possible to actually find something useful at > > www.freebsd.org. Now all I get is this marketroid nonsense. It's not > > at all obvious how to get to some basic resource like cvsweb.... > > Ahhh, the first dissenting opinion! All other comments on the > new look have been praise, but anyway... second dissenting dissenting....the first spoke of javascript errors. dont remember the persons name ;( i see the errors as well. JavaScript Error:http://www.freebsd.org/, line 79: change is not defined i am using Netscape Navigator 3.0 Aspen:[14] !file file /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin: unknown pure executable Aspen:[15] ls -Flag /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 4825088 Oct 20 1996 /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin* Aspen:[16] md5 /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin MD5 (/usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape.bin) = 4d1b9f7c13438b90a74f9a7d48738b5d after a number of error netscape gives up on javascript but till then, it is an irritation. the "applications support document..." bar is not usable till javascript gives up the ghost. jmb > > Nothing beyond the home page changed and you will find a > prominently positioned row of links just above the marketroid > nonsense that duplicate the main links on the old home page. The > only link that sort of got lost is for the gallery. > > -john > > From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 14:34:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24343 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24333; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA02617; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:34:07 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber), wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ick! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:29:09 PDT." <199706222129.OAA24140@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:34:06 -0700 Message-ID: <2614.867015246@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > second dissenting dissenting....the first spoke of javascript > errors. dont remember the persons name ;( > i see the errors as well. Have you flushed your memory/disk cache? There was a bug for a short time which has since been fixed. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 15:38:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26180 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26167; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199706222238.PAA26167@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Ick! To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, jfieber@indiana.edu, wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <2614.867015246@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 22, 97 02:34:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > second dissenting dissenting....the first spoke of javascript > > errors. dont remember the persons name ;( > > i see the errors as well. > > Have you flushed your memory/disk cache? There was a bug for > a short time which has since been fixed. > no, i did not ;( after flushing both disk and memory cache the error message is: JavaScript Error: http://www.freebsd.org/, line 77: change is not defined. the line number varies depending upon which control the mouse passes over. jmb From owner-freebsd-www Sun Jun 22 18:42:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03370 for www-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 18:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logicbomb.eos.ncsu.edu (logicbomb.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03364 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 18:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by logicbomb.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC19Dec96) id VAA27905; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 21:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970622214204.03112@logicbomb.eos.ncsu.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 21:42:04 -0400 From: Nathan Scott Johnson To: Richard Furda Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Gallery References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: ; from Richard Furda on Fri, Jun 20, 1997 at 10:11:56PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As written by Richard Furda (riso@gator.wgss.net): > MY name is Rich and I have e-mail jordan (jkh) about my problem > regarding the freebsd gallery. I submited www.wgss.net site (twice) > for the FreeBSD gallery, it was about a month ago. He told me to > e-mail you regarding this matter. > Plese e-mail me on what I should do. I was unable to find your initial request; however, I would be more than happy to add one for you if you can do the following for me: Send me a paragraph of HTML including a description of your site and contact information, and I will include it in one of the Galleries (Hardware, Software, or Consulting). You can view one of the three pages for inspiration, if you wish: I apologize for any inconvenience; sometimes, bad things can happen to good people. =( If you need any help, please let me know. Cheers, nsj -- Nate Johnson / nsj@ncsu.edu / nsj@catt.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org Systems Administrator, Computer and Technologies Theme Program North Carolina State University, Raleigh, North Carolina From owner-freebsd-www Mon Jun 23 11:13:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19136 for www-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.center.uscs.com (grumpy.center.uscs.com [165.79.32.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19131 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scotte.center.uscs.com (scotte.center.uscs.com [165.79.35.52]) by grumpy.center.uscs.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA66422 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <33AEBCC1.7BA5508D@center.uscs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:21 -0700 From: "L. Scott Emmons" Organization: CableData R&D Center, El Dorado Hills, CA, USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New site X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk New site design is fantastic!!!! -Scotte -- ________________________________________________________________________ L. Scott Emmons | CableData R&D Center - El Dorado Hills, CA, USA Sr. Software Engineer | Special Projects, Systems Development Dept (916) 939-6088 | Views and content are my own, not CableData's scotte@center.uscs.com | IZCC #2364 '81 280ZX Turbo From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jun 24 15:44:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11662 for www-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starbug.stpauls.vic.edu.au (starbug.stpauls.vic.edu.au [203.26.13.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11656 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from l2 ([203.26.13.194]) by starbug.stpauls.vic.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA14607 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:25:18 GMT Message-ID: <33B050A3.7C34@stpauls.vic.edu.au> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:56:35 +1000 From: ourmail Reply-To: ourmail@stpauls.vic.edu.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fips Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i came to your freebsd site a while ago and i got a program called FIPS - it partions a hard disk without deleting the original partion - but i couldn't find it could you please send it to frenzal@stpauls.vic.edu.au Thankx alot From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jun 24 16:18:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12921 for www-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12906 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA23770; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) To: ourmail@stpauls.vic.edu.au cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fips In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:56:35 +1000." <33B050A3.7C34@stpauls.vic.edu.au> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:18:18 -0700 Message-ID: <23767.867194298@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. This is the wrong mailing list - it is only for discussion of issues pertaining directly to the web site. Thanks. 2. What you're looking for is in the tools/ directory. I can only conclude that you did not look very hard. :) Jordan > i came to your freebsd site a while ago and i got a program called FIPS > - it partions a hard disk without deleting the original partion - but i > couldn't find it could you please send it to frenzal@stpauls.vic.edu.au > Thankx alot From owner-freebsd-www Tue Jun 24 21:05:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28363 for www-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from forest.fscinternet.com (forest.fscinternet.com [204.50.138.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28358 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eclipse.fscinternet.com (eclipse.fscinternet.com [204.50.138.100]) by forest.fscinternet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06987 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706250406.AAA06987@forest.fscinternet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Reiner" Organization: FSC Internet To: www@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:05:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: re: listing on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html Reply-to: rreiner@fscinternet.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to request that we be included in the listing of FreeBSD consulting firms in the listing on the page http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html. We're a major consulting firm located in Toronto, and we're very active in promoting FreeBSD to our corproate clients, e.g. we currently have FreeBSD boxes running for Mazda, Heinz, the Govt of Canada, etc etc. Suitable text for insertion in your page follows: FSC Internet is Canada's largest FreeBSD consulting firm. FSC's clients include numerous top-tier corporations (e.g. Mazda, Heinz), as well as mid-sized companies (e.g. the Vermont Telephone Company) and the public sector. FSC provides full consulting, implementation, support, and training services for all FreeBSD applications, including a special focus on security, high-performance Web applications, and Intranets. Please email us or call us at (416) 921-4280 for furthter information. Thanks, Richard Reiner, Ph.D. FSC Internet rreiner@fscinternet.com -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Richard Reiner, Ph.D. . rreiner@fscinternet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . http://www.fscinternet.com FSC Internet . +1 416 921-4280 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 05:12:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19293 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ocean.campus.luth.se (ocean.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19287 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from karpen@localhost) by ocean.campus.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03639 for www@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:13:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Karpberg Message-Id: <199706251013.MAA03639@ocean.campus.luth.se> Subject: Errors... To: www@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:13:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Trying to check this pages gives an error: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/rc Namely: ------------------ Error Error: Error parsing RCS output: ------------------ I don't know who is responsible for this, so I thought I'd let you pass it on. /Mikael From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 05:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19795 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de [160.45.24.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA19775 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Wed, 25 Jun 97 14:23 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG id ; Wed, 25 Jun 97 14:23 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08152; Wed, 25 Jun 97 14:02:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 97 14:02:05 +0200 Message-Id: <9706251202.AA08152@wavehh.hanse.de> From: Martin Cracauer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Garrett Wollman Cc: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-Reply-To: <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.32 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garrett Wollman writes: > It used to be possible to actually find something useful at > www.freebsd.org. Now all I get is this marketroid nonsense. It's not > at all obvious how to get to some basic resource like cvsweb.... I think the positive feedback and opinions like Garrett's show a fundamental difference in what people expect from a Web site. There are two approaches: - Using the homepage text for "market" information, using highlighted text as eye-catchers and the normal text within to explain the eye-catches somehwat and link to more information about the topic. And moving "hard" information to a toolbar of some sort. This is what Megan's Design is about and it is what most market-oriented companies do (just saw Javasoft has exactly the same approach, all useful information behind a pixmap toolbar). Let me call this a "market-oriented" approach, no pun intended. - Using the text of the home page so that a huge number of "hard" resources (= needed for experienced people, but somewhat "technobally" for new people) is directly accessable, using highlighted text to lead faster to the right link. The old homepage and Stefan's proposal (http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/freebsd/home1/) are of that sort. Let me call the a "technobabble" approach, no pun intended. I think FreeBSD is in a position where it in fact is market-oriented and profits from Megan's design. The huge number of positive feedback mails show that it is a success and reaches people who are at least willing to stay around as long as it takes to send a mail. It is obviously not the case that this design attracks only random surfers. I'd like to propose that we create an alternate homepage in addition. The new page should look like and could be treated like a sitemap and meet these requirements: - Strongly using text to lead to specific resources. No text wasted for marketing, for things people need to be told only once. - Listing a huge number of interesting items on this pages. Let the page grow as it needs, it should be no criteria that it fits without scrolling. Even links into the handbook could be useful, using the Web server logfile to tell what is most interesting. - It should show that we do it all for fun, that speaking technobabble can be fun, that many developer's primary goal is to make things works, just for watching it doing some work. It it's part of the official homepage, we could detract people not used to fun. But I think it is also very important that FreeBSD doesn't look like it derived from hackerdom too much, so we could create the "Hacker's Homepage". If we get a huge link "map of technical resources" and "Hacker's Homepage" (both pointing to the same thing :-), I think this approach could make a lot of people happy. If you agree, I will approach Stefan and we'll (or I) will come up with a first version. As a side note, I am not sure things were treated right when Stefan and Megan proposed new homepages. As I recall, both asked for comments, but megan went on and committed, while Stefan still waited. We have to make sure the Web site will not be changed on a fastest-commiter basis :-) I don't know any behind-the-scenes arrangements, so excuse me if this comment isn't in line. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://cracauer.cons.org Fax +49 40 522 85 36 From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 06:21:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22095 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22089 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02307; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:16:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9706251202.AA08152@wavehh.hanse.de> References: <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199706221911.PAA13102@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:19:54 +0200 To: Martin Cracauer , Garrett Wollman From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) Cc: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 14:02 Uhr +0200 25.06.1997, Martin Cracauer wrote: >I'd like to propose that we create an alternate homepage in >addition. [...] >If we get a huge link "map of technical resources" and "Hacker's >Homepage" (both pointing to the same thing :-), I think this approach >could make a lot of people happy. If you agree, I will approach Stefan >and we'll (or I) will come up with a first version. Yup, I think that's worthwile. I've tried to wrap up some of the pages so one can find the important things easier; after all I think one large, well structured "Ressources" page with links to everything might be the best approach. I'm going for a two week holiday. After that, I'd be happy to join this effort. >As a side note, I am not sure things were treated right when Stefan >and Megan proposed new homepages. As I recall, both asked for >comments, but megan went on and committed, while Stefan still >waited. We have to make sure the Web site will not be changed on a >fastest-commiter basis :-) I don't know any behind-the-scenes >arrangements, so excuse me if this comment isn't in line. I waited because I wasn't (and am still not) satisfied with my draft. On the other hand, it might have been better if Megan had given us a few more days to remove the typos and the annoing JavaScript errors. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 06:41:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22788 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from igubu.saix.co.za (igubu.saix.net [196.25.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22780 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web-pc.saix.net (web-pc.wc.saix.net [196.25.1.162]) by igubu.saix.co.za (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11587) with SMTP id AAA27147; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:40:16 +0200 Message-ID: <33B111A7.1D5B@saix.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:40:07 +0300 From: vblerkk@igubu.saix.net (Kevin van Blerk) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG CC: webmaster@saix.net Subject: Mirror in South Africa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi SAIX (South African Internet eXchange) is the biggest Internet Provider in South Africa and we are solely owned by the State Telco, Telkom. We are implementing many services locally such as local mirrors and would like to become an official FreeBSD mirror as well, could you please forward me the details ? Thanx Kevin van Blerk Webmaster - SAIX http://www.saix.net kevin@saix.net or webmaster@saix.net From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 06:49:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23060 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23053 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA21298; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:49:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Martin Cracauer cc: Garrett Wollman , webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:02:05 +0200." <9706251202.AA08152@wavehh.hanse.de> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:49:18 -0700 Message-ID: <21294.867246558@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'd like to propose that we create an alternate homepage in > addition. The new page should look like and could be treated like a > sitemap and meet these requirements: I think that 2nd level "hacker pages" are a fine idea but I wouldn't want to see them presented as an alternate so much as something which you'd point to from the support page. No offense to Garrett intended, but the web pages were never aimed at his class of user and never will be - that's not their function, and any greater conformance with his sensibilities they may have had in the past were the purely accidental result of having too few people working on the web pages. :-) > As a side note, I am not sure things were treated right when Stefan > and Megan proposed new homepages. As I recall, both asked for > comments, but megan went on and committed, while Stefan still > waited. We have to make sure the Web site will not be changed on a > fastest-commiter basis :-) I don't know any behind-the-scenes > arrangements, so excuse me if this comment isn't in line. This isn't how it happened. We dithered around with Stefan's proposal for awhile and he didn't seem to be modifying them in response to feedback (in particular, I completely hated his layout style and said so, but he never even responded), so that effort just kind of fizzled out. Later on, I decided that FreeBSD's pages just weren't consistent with the kind of marketing push I wanted and needed to do this year (and anybody who thinks marketing isn't important need only look to Microsoft and wonder how such an inferior product took over the world and made Gates richer than Croesus), so I _hired_ Megan to do this make-over. She committed her changes directly because that was what she was being paid to do. No "faster-committer" syndrome here. :) In any case, If I were keeping score then the feedback ratio would be 99% overwhelmingly positive and 1% negative, so I'd say it wins by popular acclaim if nothing else. :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 06:50:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23197 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from igubu.saix.co.za (igubu.saix.net [196.25.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23178 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web-pc.saix.net (web-pc.wc.saix.net [196.25.1.162]) by igubu.saix.co.za (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11587) with SMTP id AAA27804; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:50:10 +0200 Message-ID: <33B113F9.246F@saix.net> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:50:01 +0300 From: vblerkk@igubu.saix.net (Kevin van Blerk) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG CC: kevin@saix.net Subject: Mirror in South Africa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not sure if you got the previous e-Mail, PC ...died on me ? SAIX (South African Internet eXchange) is the largest Internet Provider in South Africa an we would like to become an official mirror on the FreeBSD OS, could you please forward me the details on to do this ? Thanx Kevin van Blerk Webmaster - SAIX http://www.saix.net kevin@saix.net or webmaster@saix.net From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 06:53:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23342 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23337 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA21367; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) To: Stefan Bethke cc: Martin Cracauer , Garrett Wollman , webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:19:54 +0200." Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:53:02 -0700 Message-ID: <21364.867246782@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I waited because I wasn't (and am still not) satisfied with my draft. On > the other hand, it might have been better if Megan had given us a few more > days to remove the typos and the annoing JavaScript errors. Maybe you guys don't subscribe to the www mailing list, in which case you should if this is really an area which interests you. Megan's stuff was beta tested for almost 2 weeks before coming on line, and I don't recall anyone in the To line actually feeding back in that time. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 07:07:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24114 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24109 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02458; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:01:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <21364.867246782@time.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:19:54 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:05:06 +0200 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) Cc: Martin Cracauer , Garrett Wollman , webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA24110 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 15:53 Uhr +0200 25.06.1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> I waited because I wasn't (and am still not) satisfied with my draft. On >> the other hand, it might have been better if Megan had given us a few more >> days to remove the typos and the annoing JavaScript errors. > >Maybe you guys don't subscribe to the www mailing list, in which case >you should if this is really an area which interests you. Megan's >stuff was beta tested for almost 2 weeks before coming on line, and I >don't recall anyone in the To line actually feeding back in that >time. :-) OK, OK, we have been warned. And why should the beta test of a new web page design be any more useful than that of the OS itself :-) Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ Private: Mühlendamm 12 | Tel. +49-40-256848 D-22089 Hamburg | e-mail: stefan.bethke@hanse.de | stb@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 07:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24559 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from formula1.eos.ncsu.edu (formula1.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24553 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by formula1.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC02Jan97) id KAA09884; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706251415.KAA09884@formula1.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: listing on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html To: rreiner@fscinternet.com Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Cc: www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199706250406.AAA06987@forest.fscinternet.com> from "Richard Reiner" at Jun 25, 97 00:05:43 am Reply-To: nsj@ncsu.edu From: nsj@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk %I'd like to request that we be included in the listing of FreeBSD %consulting firms in the listing on the page %http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html. Done. Your entry will appear around 2100 GMT this evening at: . Please check it to make sure it is to your satisfaction. Thanks for yhour supoert... if we can be of any further service, don't hesitate to let us know! Cheers, nsj -- Nate Johnson / nsj@ncsu.edu / nsj@catt.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org Systems Administrator, Computer and Technologies Theme Program North Carolina State University, Raleigh, North Carolina From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 07:17:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24671 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24665 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23396; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:16:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199706251416.KAA23396@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-Reply-To: <21294.867246558@time.cdrom.com> References: <9706251202.AA08152@wavehh.hanse.de> <21294.867246558@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I think that 2nd level "hacker pages" are a fine idea but I wouldn't > want to see them presented as an alternate so much as something which > you'd point to from the support page. No offense to Garrett intended, > but the web pages were never aimed at his class of user and never will > be - that's not their function, and any greater conformance with his > sensibilities they may have had in the past were the purely accidental > result of having too few people working on the web pages. :-) Let me be extremely clear. I have zero tolerance for marketing nonsense. I don't have any use at all for the fools who are swayed by it, and would just as soon not deal with the headaches they are sure to cause later. I despise people who put huge piles of non-standard CRAP in their Web pages. The one, and only, reason to have a Web page, it to convey information. If you are not conveying useful information, then you're part of the problem. Now, far be it from me to tell you that you should not spend your own money however you wish, including possibly attempting to attract more idiots to our system. I would just as soon Mr. Bill kept those users, myself. Now that I know where you're coming from, I'll have to watch more closely.... > and made Gates richer than Croesus), so I _hired_ Megan to do this > make-over. She committed her changes directly because that was what > she was being paid to do. No "faster-committer" syndrome here. :) Ummm, are these the FreeBSD Web pages or the Jordan K. Hubbard Web pages? -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 07:19:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24811 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA24804; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/3.4Wbeta5-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id XAA15914; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:19:42 +0900 Received: from lepton (lepton.astec.co.jp [172.20.12.27]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id XAA21152; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:19:41 +0900 (JST) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Local translations of www.freebsd.org From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 1997 01:32:26 -0700 (PDT)" References: <199706150832.BAA05048@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970625231944C.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:19:44 +0900 X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 46 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Local translations of www.freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 01:32:26 -0700 (PDT) > This is just a quick note concerning sites like www.ar.freebsd.org which > maintain localized versions of the home page. Having local language versions > is certainly a good thing and I'm very happy to see it, I'm simply wondering > if: > > A) It's better to try and somehow merge these back into the master > sources so that anyone with a CVS repository could do something > like: > > cvs co -P www > cd www/data > make LANG=ja_JP.EUC > > or whatever interface makes the most sense (maybe they go to > www/data/ja_JP.EUC instead - I'm not Mr. I18N here :-) for > making the Japanese copy of www.freebsd.org. > > Then www.jp.freebsd.org simply builds its own pages from source > instead of mirroring www.freebsd.org and everybody's happy. > > > B) Simply syncing this by hand whenever significant changes occur > rather than building a mechanism for it. This appears to be > the system in place now. :-) > > If we choose (A) then John Fieber is certainly going to need to tell us > how to do it since he's the web god around here. If we choose (B) then > I guess this is a "heads up!" to all regional www maintainers that > the FreeBSD home page has changed significantly and the translation crews > should start considering another revision of their local copies. :) We, Japanese people, are going to make the translation. Have we decided which one to be chosen? I've searched my mail boxes, but I don't find any mail about it... Also, we are providig original pages at . How do you think about them? They should be put into the CVS repository at freefall? -- H.Hanai From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 07:28:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA25273 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from formula1.eos.ncsu.edu (formula1.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25263 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by formula1.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC02Jan97) id KAA09941; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706251428.KAA09941@formula1.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Gallery To: riso@wgss.net (Richard Furda) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970624220500.006914a8@wgss.net> from "Richard Furda" at Jun 24, 97 10:05:00 pm Reply-To: nsj@ncsu.edu From: nsj@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk %If You could please, and add this page to the non profit gallery. Richard, I added your entry to the Gallery this morning; it should appear around 0000 GMT (about 5pm or so your time, I believe) at: Please check it at your convenience to ensure that everything's spelled right, and that everything is to your satisfaction. Sorry for the confusion and delay on our part. Cheers, nsj PS - Kudos on a great site! -- Nate Johnson / nsj@ncsu.edu / nsj@catt.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org Systems Administrator, Computer and Technologies Theme Program North Carolina State University, Raleigh, North Carolina From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 08:14:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27588 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27583 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA21769; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:14:16 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:16:51 EDT." <199706251416.KAA23396@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: <21765.867251655@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Let me be extremely clear. I have zero tolerance for marketing > nonsense. I don't have any use at all for the fools who are swayed by > it, and would just as soon not deal with the headaches they are sure > to cause later. I despise people who put huge piles of non-standard > CRAP in their Web pages. Fine, we know where you stand. I would expect no less from a died-in-the-wool academic. > Now, far be it from me to tell you that you should not spend your own > money however you wish, including possibly attempting to attract more > idiots to our system. I would just as soon Mr. Bill kept those users, > myself. Now that I know where you're coming from, I'll have to watch > more closely.... I think that cuts both ways. ;-) In any case, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to note in return that people like you are exactly why Bill is where he is today. With a contemptuous disregard for real-world issues such as these, you would happily lead us all down the road to dissolution if there weren't a few voices of reason to offset your myopic and wholly naive mindset. It's a pity that your ilk dominated UNIX in the early days or we might not be facing the Microsoft juggernaut today - I do indeed hold you completely responsible for that. > Ummm, are these the FreeBSD Web pages or the Jordan K. Hubbard Web > pages? I don't tell you how to run the networking subsystem since that's your patch. As PR officer, it's mine to attract more people and I don't expect you to tell me how to do my job, either. Thanks for your input and next customer, please. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 08:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA27643 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27637; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA21798; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:15:25 -0700 (PDT) To: Hiroyuki HANAI cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Local translations of www.freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:19:44 +0900." <19970625231944C.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: <21795.867251724@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We, Japanese people, are going to make the translation. > Have we decided which one to be chosen? > I've searched my mail boxes, but I don't find any mail about it... > > Also, we are providig original pages at > . > How do you think about them? > They should be put into the CVS repository at freefall? John Fieber would probably be the best one to answer that since he'd know the build issues involved - John? Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 10:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04003 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de [160.45.24.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03997 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Wed, 25 Jun 97 19:21 MEST Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG id ; Wed, 25 Jun 97 19:21 MET DST Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09727; Wed, 25 Jun 97 18:56:04 +0200 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9706251656.AA09727@wavehh.hanse.de> Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:56:03 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <21765.867251655@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 25, 97 08:14:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ouh, it wasn't my intention to trigger a flamewar. I'll come up with a proposal how a "summary of technical resources" page could look like and that one could be bookmarked by those people who like it better, or put up at www.hackers.freebsd.org :-) I didn't sent out a single message this week that didn't fire back, BTW, so please be gentle... Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://cracauer.cons.org Fax +49 40 522 85 36 From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 10:39:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04844 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04800 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA22560; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Technobabble homepage (Was: Ick!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:56:03 +0200." <9706251656.AA09727@wavehh.hanse.de> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: <22557.867260354@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Ouh, it wasn't my intention to trigger a flamewar. Sorry, touchy subject. :) > I didn't sent out a single message this week that didn't fire back, > BTW, so please be gentle... I think maybe it's just our time of month over here. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 11:46:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08273 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from box.hacom.nl (root@box.hacom.nl [193.67.233.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08268 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by box.hacom.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id UAA01067 for www@freeBSD.org; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:35:10 +0200 Received: (from albert@localhost) by beowulf.gamp.hacom.nl (8.6.12/10.2) id UAA23715; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:31:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:31:50 +0200 Message-Id: <199706251831.UAA23715@beowulf.gamp.hacom.nl> From: Albert Mietus To: www@freeBSD.org Subject: cgi script "register" doesn't work in mirror (with silution) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hai, nice, site ... but At least one cgi script doesn't work: When I'm trying to register myself for the News-letter,I got an error: cgi/.... not found. I used the server in Holland (www.nl.freebsd.org), as that is the nearest. The I tried the version at the master side (www.freebsd.org), it worked! When inverstigation the problem I found that the .html file did contain a relative (action) link to that cgi script So, it is posted to the server in holland ... Probally, al info should go directly to the master side, so making the link absolute, including "www.freebsd.org" (whitout country code) it will probally work correctly.. Hope, it helps ---GAM "This should be a jolly quote" From owner-freebsd-www Wed Jun 25 12:11:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09269 for www-outgoing; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09261 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15791; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:10:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:10:45 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Albert Mietus cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cgi script "register" doesn't work in mirror (with silution) In-Reply-To: <199706251831.UAA23715@beowulf.gamp.hacom.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Albert Mietus wrote: > Probally, al info should go directly to the master side, so making the > link absolute, including "www.freebsd.org" (whitout country code) it > will probally work correctly.. Bingo. I just put in the fix, though it will take awhile to propgate to the mirrors. -john From owner-freebsd-www Thu Jun 26 09:35:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29072 for www-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.buffalostate.edu (hummel@www.buffalostate.edu [136.183.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29059 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hummel@localhost) by www.buffalostate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07878 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:34:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:34:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave H." To: www@freebsd.org Subject: link to 2.1.7.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Seems as if the link to 2.1.7.1-RELEASE still points to 2.1.7-RELEASE. I am referring to where.html From owner-freebsd-www Thu Jun 26 09:38:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29266 for www-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from online.no (pilt.online.no [193.212.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29261 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hmork (ti30a02-0002.dialup.online.no [130.67.148.130]) by online.no (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17223 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:37:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <33A9D5C3.2E02@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:58:43 +0100 From: "hmork@geocities.com" Reply-To: hmork@geocities.com Organization: Team OS/2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "bug" in something Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk use gemork@online.no for replies when I applied as 'Register to receive the FreeBSD Newsletter and subscribe to announce@freebsd.org mailing list.' I couldn't check, choose nor do anything else the sign up for FreeBSD newsletter. can you add me to it and check if it's html errors, ? Coz it doesn't stand more than Sign up for FreeBSD Newsletter? at my place.. _tDr_ From owner-freebsd-www Thu Jun 26 10:00:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00715 for www-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asis.com (root@red.asis.com [206.99.112.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00710 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-17.asis.com (ppp-17.asis.com [206.99.112.33]) by asis.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06724; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970626085628.2f177e36@asis.com> X-Sender: meganm@asis.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) To: hmork@geocities.com From: Megan McCormack Subject: Re: "bug" in something Cc: www@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 01:58 AM 6/20/97 +0100, you wrote: >use gemork@online.no for replies > >when I applied as >'Register to receive the FreeBSD Newsletter and subscribe to >announce@freebsd.org mailing list.' I couldn't check, choose nor do >anything else the sign up for FreeBSD newsletter. can you add me to it >and check if it's html errors, ? Coz it doesn't stand more than Sign up >for FreeBSD Newsletter? at my place.. > >_tDr_ Were you using a mirror server? The cgi script was breaking on the mirrors and was fixed yesterday, but it may not have updated the mirror server you were using yet. You could try the main server at freebsd.org but if you still have problems please let me know. Thanks! Megan From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 03:08:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14757 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garden1.garden.de ([194.25.113.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14733 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garden37 (194.25.113.137) by garden1.garden.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:11:08 +0200 Message-ID: <33B39E07.6103@garden.de> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:03:35 +0200 From: Guest Account Organization: Garden Duesseldorf X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 [de] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Shit BSD X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA14753 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Linux is much better than your "FreeBSD". (Ha jetzt ham wir's dennen gezeigt) Eure Mütter können nicht ficken. gez.T. W. From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 08:09:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25662 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 08:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.inlink.com (ultra.inlink.com [206.196.96.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25644 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 08:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparc.midwestis.com (sparc.midwestis.com [206.196.126.220]) by thor.inlink.com (8.8.0/V8) with ESMTP id KAA04843 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rayseals.global-sol.com ([208.3.120.207] (may be forged)) by sparc.midwestis.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14935 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:07:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970627100900.007ba360@mail.global-sol.com> X-Sender: rseals@mail.global-sol.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:09:00 -0500 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ray Seals Subject: Web Site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just a quick note to tell you that it has been a while since I visited your web site. It looks really sharp. Great design. I have recently converted one of my two web sites from NT to FreeBSD and have really been a better person for it. FreeBSD FOR THE MASSES!!!!! Ray Seals +-----------------------------------------------------+ | Ray Seals | | Network Engineer | | Midwest Information Systems, Inc. | | http://www.midwestis.com | +-----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 09:01:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28818 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28813 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA13149 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:02:06 -0700 (PDT) To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Shit BSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:03:35 +0200." <33B39E07.6103@garden.de> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:02:05 -0700 Message-ID: <13146.867427325@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Linux is much better than your "FreeBSD". You can always tell when you've got the "competition" scared - this starts to happen. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 12:16:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09034 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is4.nyu.edu (jks2557@IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09022 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA27403; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:15:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph K Shraibman To: www@freebsd.org Subject: register.html Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The checkbox for "sign up for freebsd newletter" is missing. Joseph Shraibman <*> TuPari on IRC http://pages.nyu.edu/~jks2557 jks2557@is4.nyu.edu (for my other email address see web page) PGP fingerprint: 1D 8D 94 48 79 C6 B1 5E 18 9F 09 5A CE F1 76 8E From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 13:26:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13414 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asis.com (root@red.asis.com [206.99.112.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13408 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from megan (ppp-15.asis.com [206.99.112.31]) by asis.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27440; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970627132145.00a47330@asis.com> X-Sender: meganm@asis.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:21:48 -0700 To: Joseph K Shraibman From: Megan McCormack Subject: Re: register.html Cc: www@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:15 PM 6/27/97 -0400, you wrote: >The checkbox for "sign up for freebsd newletter" is missing. > >Joseph Shraibman <*> TuPari on IRC http://pages.nyu.edu/~jks2557 >jks2557@is4.nyu.edu (for my other email address see web page) >PGP fingerprint: 1D 8D 94 48 79 C6 B1 5E 18 9F 09 5A CE F1 76 8E > It does not have a checkbox. It has a drop-down menu beside it for selection of postal newsletter or e-mail newesletter or no newsletter. Does it not display that for you? What browser and version are you using? Megan ************** Chop wood, carry water, check e-mail ************ Megan McCormack http://www.asis.com/~meganm From owner-freebsd-www Fri Jun 27 14:30:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16445 for www-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is4.nyu.edu (jks2557@IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16438 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA19911; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:30:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:30:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph K Shraibman To: Megan McCormack Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: register.html In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970627132145.00a47330@asis.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Megan McCormack wrote: > At 03:15 PM 6/27/97 -0400, you wrote: > >The checkbox for "sign up for freebsd newletter" is missing. > > > >Joseph Shraibman <*> TuPari on IRC http://pages.nyu.edu/~jks2557 > >jks2557@is4.nyu.edu (for my other email address see web page) > >PGP fingerprint: 1D 8D 94 48 79 C6 B1 5E 18 9F 09 5A CE F1 76 > 8E > > > > It does not have a checkbox. It has a drop-down menu beside it for selection > of postal newsletter or e-mail newesletter or no newsletter. Does it not > display that for you? What browser and version are you using? > I didn't see it. I was using Netscape 1.22 for windows 3.1 Joseph Shraibman <*> TuPari on IRC http://pages.nyu.edu/~jks2557 jks2557@is4.nyu.edu (for my other email address see web page) PGP fingerprint: 1D 8D 94 48 79 C6 B1 5E 18 9F 09 5A CE F1 76 8E From owner-freebsd-www Sat Jun 28 05:37:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18747 for www-outgoing; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 05:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from melb.bluep.com (root@melb.bluep.com [203.26.36.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18742 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 05:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.bluep.com (sam.bluep.com [203.26.36.7]) by melb.bluep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22445 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:37:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <33B5058C.CCC35EFB@bluep.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:37:32 +1000 From: Sam Hadzajlic X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Plus me X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please include my company in your gallery Blue Planet NET http://www.bluep.com Internet Service Provider (Melbourne) Runing 100% on FreeBSD include Dial-up Regards sysadmin Sam H samh@bluep.com