From owner-freebsd-www Sun Dec 7 12:08:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18003 for www-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:08:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from room101.sysc.com (qmailr@richmojm2.student.rose-hulman.edu [137.112.206.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA17995 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:08:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jayrich@room101.sysc.com) Received: (qmail 12833 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Dec 1997 20:07:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:07:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Jay M. Richmond" To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: www6.freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, www6.freebsd.org is up and running, and it can be added to the list of mirrors. it is running in Indiana. thanks. Jay Please e-mail me or finger jayrich@sysc.com for my PGP key. From owner-freebsd-www Sun Dec 7 15:52:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA04660 for www-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from stcns.stc.ac.uk (root@stcns.stc.ac.uk [194.73.108.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA04655 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k9321@stcns.stc.ac.uk) Received: (from k9321@localhost) by stcns.stc.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03938 for www@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 23:53:21 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 23:53:21 GMT From: Michael Webster Message-Id: <199712072353.XAA03938@stcns.stc.ac.uk> To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: South Tyneside College Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It needs to be noted that South Tyneside College use OpenBSD for their mail and wshell access. It was my idea to impliment OpenBSD at the college. The College's URL is http://www.stc.ac.uk/ From owner-freebsd-www Sun Dec 7 18:29:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA17262 for www-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA17255 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:28:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA21938; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:26:09 -0800 (PST) To: Michael Webster cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: South Tyneside College In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Dec 1997 23:53:21 GMT." <199712072353.XAA03938@stcns.stc.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 18:26:09 -0800 Message-ID: <21935.881547969@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So are you saying that we should remove the site? I'm confused by this. > It needs to be noted that South Tyneside College use OpenBSD for their mail a nd wshell access. It was my idea to impliment OpenBSD at the college. The Colle ge's URL is http://www.stc.ac.uk/ From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 03:04:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA28055 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 03:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA28046 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 03:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.iafrica.com) Received: from axl.iafrica.com [196.31.1.167] (root) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xf0z1-0000xD-00; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:04:15 +0200 Received: from axl.iafrica.com (sheldonh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axl.iafrica.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA08049 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:04:26 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.iafrica.com) From: Sheldon Hearn To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: missing banner?.gif files Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: <8046.881579066@axl.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Webmaster(s), The files banner1.gif banner2.gif banner3.gif and banner4.gif referenced by http://www.freebsd.org/gallery.html as IMG SRC objects do not exist at the referenced URLs. The IMG SRC references are to bare filenames instead of paths of the form "gifs/bannerX.gif" Hope this helps, Sheldon. From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 12:56:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10241 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:56:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from nlanr.net (oceana.sdsc.edu [132.249.40.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10233 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wessels@surf.scd.ucar.edu) Received: from surf (surf.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.28.53]) by nlanr.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA13011; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from surf.scd.ucar.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by surf (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA26651; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:55:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199712082055.NAA26651@surf> From: Duane Wessels To: www@FreeBSD.ORG cc: kostas@nlanr.net Subject: URNs, Mirror sites, and Squid Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:55:57 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello FreeBSD folks-- We (Squid developers) have recently been tinkering with URN support in the Squid cache. We're not doing anything really sophisticated yet. We think a good use of URNs is automatic redirection to a close mirror site. We are asking if you would like to help us out by installing a simple CGI script on your server. Squid would use this CGI script to turn a URN for frebsd.org into a list of URLs. For more details, see http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/urn-support.html, or please us for clarification. Duane W. -- wessels@nlanr.net Think Globally, Cache Locally. From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 17:04:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07254 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07217 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA23344; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:04:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:04:07 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Duane Wessels cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG, kostas@nlanr.net Subject: Re: URNs, Mirror sites, and Squid In-Reply-To: <199712082055.NAA26651@surf> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Duane Wessels wrote: > For more details, see http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/urn-support.html, > or please us for clarification. Www.freebsd.org has the "FreeBSD" pages, which are mirrored around the world, but it also has quite a few pages that are not mirrored and consequently requests for those should not go to a mirror, personal home page (/~foobar/...) for example but there are some others. Do you have a canned script that has a relatively simple framework for handling these sorts of exceptions? Basically, I find this quite interesting but don't have much time for fiddling at the moment. -john From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 19:48:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA22364 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from nlanr.net (oceana.sdsc.edu [132.249.40.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA22359 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wessels@surf.scd.ucar.edu) Received: from surf (surf.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.28.53]) by nlanr.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA19405; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from surf.scd.ucar.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by surf (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA28336; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:48:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199712090348.UAA28336@surf> To: John Fieber cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG, kostas@nlanr.net Subject: Re: URNs, Mirror sites, and Squid In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 08 Dec 1997 20:04:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 20:48:21 -0700 From: Duane Wessels Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber writes: >On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Duane Wessels wrote: > >> For more details, see http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/urn-support.html, >> or please us for clarification. > >Www.freebsd.org has the "FreeBSD" pages, which are mirrored >around the world, but it also has quite a few pages that are not >mirrored and consequently requests for those should not go to a >mirror, personal home page (/~foobar/...) for example but there >are some others. Do you have a canned script that has a >relatively simple framework for handling these sorts of >exceptions? I do now. It makes the script a bit more complex, but not too much I hope. In fact, here's a script which I think will work for the FreeBSD site. I just copied your list of mirrors from your home page. Interestingly, the your mirrors list brings out a small problem. Some of the entries end with 'index.html' or 'freebsd.html'. This simple script assumes that you can do straight mappings and substring replacements. We don't want to map 'urn:www.freebsd.org:/foo' to 'http://www.xx.freebsd.org/index.html/foo'. I guess we'll have to see how much of a problem that really becomes. Duane W. ============================================================================== #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "content-type: text/plain\r\n"; print "Expires: ", &http_time(time+3600), "\r\n"; print "\r\n"; if ($ENV{'REQUEST_METHOD'} eq "POST") { read(STDIN, $request, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'}); } elsif ($ENV{'REQUEST_METHOD'} eq "GET" ) { $request = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}; } $request = &url_decode($request); # # special hack; turn 'urn:foo' into 'urn:foo:/' # but this doesn't yet work with Squid (1.2.beta9), i.e. Squid # won't call this script unless the second colon is present. # $request .= ':/' unless ($request =~ /([^:]+):([^:]+):/); $state = 0; while () { chop; s/#.*//; next unless (/./); if ($state == 0) { next if (/^\s/); # skip indented lines $URN = $_; $state = 1 unless (index($request, $URN, 0) < 0); } if ($state == 1) { next unless (/^\s/); # skip non-indented lines $state = 2; } if ($state == 2) { last unless (/^\s/); # exit on next non-indented line s/^\s+//; $URL = $_; print $URL . substr($request, length($URN)) . "\n"; } } exit 0; sub url_decode { local($_) = @_; tr/+/ /; s/%(..)/pack("c",hex($1))/ge; $_; } sub http_time { local($t) = @_; local(@T) = gmtime($t); local(@WD) = ('Sun', 'Mon', 'Tue', 'Wed', 'Thu', 'Fri', 'Sat'); local(@MO) = ( 'Jan', 'Feb', 'Mar', 'Apr', 'May', 'Jun', 'Jul', 'Aug', 'Sep', 'Oct', 'Nov', 'Dec'); sprintf "%s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d GMT", $WD[$T[6]], $T[3], $MO[$T[4]], $T[5], $T[2],$T[1],$T[0]; } # The follwing lines are read as above. The data consists of any # number of "sections." Each "section" consists of two parts: first URN # prefixes, then URL prefixes indented with whitespace. e.g.: # # URN1 # URN2 # URL1 # URL2 # URL3 # URL4 # # If one of the specified URN prefixes matches the requested URN, then # then, for every listed URL prefix, the URL prefix is substituted for # the URN prefix in the request. We only process one "section" for each # URN request. Thus, more-specific subsets of URN-space should be # specified before less-specific ones. __END__ # # Twiddle directories are not mirrored urn:www.freebsd.org:/~ urn:www.freebsd.org:/%7e http://www.freebsd.org/%7e # # mirrors for our Web/HTTP site. # urn:www.freebsd.org:/ http://www.ar.freebsd.org/ http://www.au.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/ http://www2.au.freebsd.org/ http://www3.au.freebsd.org/ http://www.br.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ http://www2.br.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ http://www3.br.freebsd.org/ http://www.br.freebsd.org/ http://www2.br.freebsd.org/ http://www.ca.freebsd.org/ http://www.cz.freebsd.org/ http://sunsite.auc.dk/www.freebsd.org/ http://www.ee.freebsd.org/ http://www.fi.freebsd.org/ http://www.fr.freebsd.org/ http://www.de.freebsd.org/ http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/ http://www.hu.freebsd.org/ http://www.hu.freebsd.org/hu/ http://www.is.freebsd.org/ http://www.ie.freebsd.org/ http://www.it.freebsd.org/ http://www.jp.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ http://www.jp.freebsd.org/ http://www.kr.freebsd.org/ http://www.lv.freebsd.org/ http://www.nl.freebsd.org/ http://www.pl.freebsd.org/ http://www.pt.freebsd.org/ http://www2.pt.freebsd.org/ http://www3.pt.freebsd.org/ http://www.ru.freebsd.org/ http://www2.ru.freebsd.org/ http://www3.ru.freebsd.org/ http://www.za.freebsd.org/ http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ http://www.se.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ http://www.tw.freebsd.org/ http://www.ua.freebsd.org/ http://www2.ua.freebsd.org/ http://www.uk.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www6.freebsd.org/ http://www7.freebsd.org/ http://www2.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 20:04:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA23634 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:04:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23489 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:03:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA23664; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 23:01:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 23:01:33 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Duane Wessels cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG, kostas@nlanr.net Subject: Re: URNs, Mirror sites, and Squid In-Reply-To: <199712090348.UAA28336@surf> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Duane Wessels wrote: > >are some others. Do you have a canned script that has a > >relatively simple framework for handling these sorts of > >exceptions? > > I do now. It makes the script a bit more complex, but not too much > I hope. That looks like it will work. There are a couple other special cases but I think the mechanism will handle them easily. > Interestingly, the your mirrors list brings out a small problem. Some > of the entries end with 'index.html' or 'freebsd.html'. This simple > script assumes that you can do straight mappings and substring > replacements. Not a problem, actually, because the URL in the mirror list on the home page may actually connect to a customized/localized home page and the real mirrored pages are off of that somewhere with the same names as on the mother site. It will just take a small bit of research to construct the truly correct mirror URL list, for the purposes of urn mapping. I'll see if I can get it set up in the next day or two. -john From owner-freebsd-www Mon Dec 8 21:26:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA29344 for www-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:26:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from asis.com (red.asis.com [206.99.112.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA29333 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meganm@asis.com) From: meganm@asis.com Received: from megan (ppp-7.asis.com [206.99.112.23]) by asis.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29217; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:25:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971208212615.007d16b0@asis.com> X-Sender: meganm@asis.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 21:26:18 -0800 To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: missing banner?.gif files Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try reloading the pages now. I fixed the paths yesterday. Thanks! Megan >Hi Webmaster(s), > >The files banner1.gif banner2.gif banner3.gif and banner4.gif referenced >by http://www.freebsd.org/gallery.html as IMG SRC objects do not exist >at the referenced URLs. > >The IMG SRC references are to bare filenames instead of paths of the >form "gifs/bannerX.gif" > >Hope this helps, >Sheldon. > > > > From owner-freebsd-www Tue Dec 9 02:20:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA20723 for www-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 02:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from styx.mrm.se ([195.67.18.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA20688 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 02:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from margareta.gerlach@mrm.se) Received: from margareta (pc0.mrm.se [195.67.18.34]) by styx.mrm.se (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA10721 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:22:23 +0100 (MET) From: "Margareta Gerlach" To: Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/Information on database: www Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:16:25 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd048b$812e6ab0$221243c3@margareta.mrm.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I got this message in search!! "FreeBSD.org - Document not found The file http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/Information on database: www does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi?words=%22partition+editor%22&max=25&so urce=www. The closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please contact the server administrator www@freebsd.org. Thank you very much! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- $Date: 1997/07/17 17:30:20 " By from Margareta Gerlach From owner-freebsd-www Tue Dec 9 04:43:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA28734 for www-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA28729 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA24835; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 07:43:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 07:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Margareta Gerlach cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/Information on database: www In-Reply-To: <01bd048b$812e6ab0$221243c3@margareta.mrm.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Margareta Gerlach wrote: > Hi, I got this message in search!! > > "FreeBSD.org - Document not found [snip] Nothing was found for your query. It *should* have indicated that, but there is a glitch in the search script. -john From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 07:21:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA20705 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from mailbox.bastad.se ([193.45.190.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA20693 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomo@bastad.se) Received: from tomo.bastad.se (sfi.academy.bastad.se [193.45.190.154]) by mailbox.bastad.se (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id QAA38626 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:26:25 +0100 (NFT) Message-Id: <199712101526.QAA38626@mailbox.bastad.se> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 16:33:52 +0100 From: Tommy Svensson To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Web mail system...? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.02.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi FreeBSD, A friend on the net told me to look up FreeBSD for a solution to my problem... So i did! The situtation is like this: We, an ISP, would want a program/script that would enable the possibility for users/students to retrieve and send mail through their browser! The Webmail program/script should support send, check, reply, reply-all, attachments, save sent mail, folder creation, search, template options etc... all the features of a regular mail client i.e Netscape Mail or Eudora. We're currently running a trial version of a program called InterChange and it works great apart from it being way too slow and way too expensive... AND it has to run on a win95 or a winNT server! I would like a similar program/script to run on our UNIX server! But I haven't found any software that does this except for SpiderMail, which consists of two perl5 scripts. A program/script in perl is desirable. Spidermail is great but I would like alternatives and then a friend of mine told me to check out FreeBSD. Q1: How can you help me to make emailing possible through web browsers using our pop3 account and our UNIX AIX web server? Q2: Do YOU know of any program that fits into the above mentioned desciption? Any help would greatly, GREATLY appreciated!!! Sincerely, Tommy From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 08:07:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23824 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23814 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27848; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:56:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:56:46 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Tommy Svensson cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web mail system...? In-Reply-To: <199712101526.QAA38626@mailbox.bastad.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Tommy Svensson wrote: > A friend on the net told me to look up FreeBSD for a solution > to my problem... So i did! FreeBSD is an operating system. I know of no software for web based email that would run on FreeBSD that wouldn't run on your AIX server. -john From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 09:37:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00851 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:37:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00846 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:37:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id JAA03072; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:37:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712101737.JAA03072@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 12:36:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Suggestion to indicate location of mirror Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to suggest the location of a mirror is indicated in the web pages. This is to help people select the nearest mirror. In cases where there is only one mirror in a country it doesn't matter much, but on cases where there are several mirrors (ie cvsup mirrors in US, www mirrors in US) is can help people choose the nearest mirror. From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 13:46:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22020 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22011 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01084; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD WWW List Subject: Re: Suggestion to indicate location of mirror In-Reply-To: <199712101737.JAA03072@super.zippo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I would like to suggest the location of a mirror is indicated in the > web pages. This is to help people select the nearest mirror. In cases > where there is only one mirror in a country it doesn't matter much, > but on cases where there are several mirrors (ie cvsup mirrors in US, > www mirrors in US) is can help people choose the nearest mirror. Do you mean that we need more detail in the `select a country' drop box on the front page? We (I) assume that people will find that dropbox and select the mirror closest to them, or try the multiple ones in their area to find the one best connected. It may be handy to expand the countries with multiple mirrors (ie Australia) with their localities. We'd have to get that information tho. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 16:12:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA07497 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:12:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07482 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA28836; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:11:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:11:47 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD WWW List Subject: Re: Suggestion to indicate location of mirror In-Reply-To: <199712101737.JAA03072@super.zippo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I would like to suggest the location of a mirror is indicated in the > web pages. This is to help people select the nearest mirror. I would be happy to add this information if someone supplies it. In fact, if I recall correctly, I explicitly asked for this information at least once in the past... -john From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 17:22:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14073 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from pleco.cisco.com (pleco.cisco.com [171.69.30.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA14066 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:22:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narana@cisco.com) Received: from nkannapp-ss20.cisco.com (nkannapp-ss20.cisco.com [171.69.194.242]) by pleco.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA01839 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nkannapp-ss20 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nkannapp-ss20.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) with SMTP id RAA00453 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <348F4025.7CC@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:21:41 -0800 From: Narana Kannappan Organization: Switching Platforms, WBU, Cisco Systems. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/~brian/ppp-971110-2.2-STABLE.bin.tar.gz Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 19:44:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA26588 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:44:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26575 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id TAA26843; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:44:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712110344.TAA26843@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Doug White" Cc: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 22:43:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion to indicate location of mirror Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:46:16 -0800 (PST), Doug White wrote: >> I would like to suggest the location of a mirror is indicated in the >> web pages. >Do you mean that we need more detail in the `select a country' drop box on >the front page? I was thinking a bit more ambitious. :-) Ftp, WWW and CVSup mirrors addresses. Today I was doing CVSup and CVSup2 was close to 2 times faster than CVSup.freebsd. Since I didn't know where they were I did traceroute to all 3. From owner-freebsd-www Wed Dec 10 19:46:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA26814 for www-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:46:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26809 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id TAA27031; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:46:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712110346.TAA27031@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "John Fieber" Cc: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 22:46:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestion to indicate location of mirror Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:11:47 -0500 (EST), John Fieber wrote: >> I would like to suggest the location of a mirror is indicated in the >> web pages. This is to help people select the nearest mirror. > >I would be happy to add this information if someone supplies it. >In fact, if I recall correctly, I explicitly asked for this >information at least once in the past... I am going to send some emails to the listed maintainers of the mirrors. From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 13:25:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16647 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16630 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from quisqueya.natserv.com (slip-32-100-112-177.ny.us.ibm.net [32.100.112.177]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA19192 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:24:40 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199712112124.QAA19192@federation.addy.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:16:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Francisco Reyes Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:22:01 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FW: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I started to get replies of locations for servers. For future references.. Since I (finaly) learned how to use CVSup I downloaded t he SGML code and changes like this I could do. What I would like to know is were should the "diff" be sent to. This list? (if I recall well this is what is sugg ested at www pages) Also what is the convention with diff? Old file, new file? ************************* City: Taipei Country: Taiwan mirror: ftp URL: ftp://ftp.tw.freebsd.org == ftp://NCTUCCCA.edu.tw City: HsinChu Country: Taiwan mirror: ftp www cvsup URL: ftp://ftp2.tw.freebsd.org == ftp://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw URL: http://www.tw.freebsd.org == http://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw ************************** From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 13:37:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA17667 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA17660 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:36:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from quisqueya.natserv.com (slip-32-100-112-177.ny.us.ibm.net [32.100.112.177]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA20665 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:36:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:59:26 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199712112059.PAA05972@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Resent-From: Garrett Wollman Resent-To: Francisco Reyes Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Missing mirror? Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Thanks much for the answer. Would you mind telling me the names >>>(ie ftp2.freebsd.org). >I have no idea. We call it freebsd.lcs.mit.edu. >GAWollman Got another response about location. The above server is cvsup3.freebsd.org howe ver I can not find what ftp site they are. They are also setup to be a ftp mirro r. I did nslookup for all 6 ftp sites and none was at MIT. The location of this server is: Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 16:56:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA29955 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29950 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:56:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02632; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:56:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Francisco Reyes cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > For future references.. Since I (finaly) learned how to use CVSup I > downloaded t he SGML code and changes like this I could do. What I would > like to know is were > should the "diff" be sent to. This list? (if I recall well this is what > is sugg ested at www pages) Sure. > > Also what is the convention with diff? Old file, new file? DIFF(1) GNU Tools DIFF(1) NAME diff - find differences between two files SYNOPSIS diff [options] from-file to-file Yes, diff -u old-file new-file. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 18:10:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05115 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:10:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA05107 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from localhost (slip129-37-112-76.pa.us.ibm.net [129.37.112.76]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA23576 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:10:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712120210.VAA23576@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 21:10:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk More replies to location. ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:56:16 -0800 (PST) >From: Chris Timmons >To: Francisco Reyes >cc: jdp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages cvsup.freebsd.org is on the campus of Central Washington University, Ellensburg, Washington USA. A cvsup mirror only... regards, -Chris ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 19:04:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA08677 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08667 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from localhost (slip129-37-112-76.pa.us.ibm.net [129.37.112.76]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA28642 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:53:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712120253.VAA28642@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 21:53:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FW: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:56:13 -0800 (PST), Doug White wrote: >> should the "diff" be sent to. This list? (if I recall well this is what >> is sugg ested at www pages) > >Sure. As an attachment or within the email? From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 19:04:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA08678 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08669 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from localhost (slip129-37-112-76.pa.us.ibm.net [129.37.112.76]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA28132 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:48:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712120248.VAA28132@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 21:48:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For the group of servers in the "de.freebsd.org" seems we only need one general comment. See below. ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 01:04:58 +0100 >From: J Wunsch >To: Francisco Reyes >Subject: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages Well, so if you want, you can by now indicate that all ftp*.de.freebsd.org sites are located on the WiN. Users outside the WiN are often better served using the other European mirrors, or even ftp.freebsd.org directly. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 19:06:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA08782 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08777 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id TAA11435; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:06:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712120306.TAA11435@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" , "Greg Lehey" Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 22:05:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Spanish documentation - needed anyhow? Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:16:20 +0800, Greg Lehey wrote: >> Never thought of it, but I do like the idea of finding Spanish >> equivalents instead of using the English word. > >I disagree, not just with Spanish. The French do this, too, and the >Germans used to. I think that if one can find a "suitable" translation there is nothing wrong with tranlating it. If it going to be very confusing then I would vote for keeping the English word. You also need to remember that writing is only half the story about how information is exchanged. It may be ok to write "buffer" or "cache" but in other languages those words either sound funny or are just plain awkward to pronounce. >I spent a long time in Germany, and although I speak >good German, I found it very helpful to have the same technical terms >in German and in English. One problem in particular was that you >can't always find a suitable new (German|French|Spanish) word to >translate a new English term, and some of the resultant attempts are >ambiguous and just plain painful. I think a middle ground needs to be found in tranlations. If a word is not awkward to pronounce in the translated language and there isn't a simple way to translate it then it could remain in English. Moreover, some computer terms in English have got their meaning by convention(someone made it up and the rest have kept using it). Take for example a word Jesus pointed out to me: "mirror". In Spanish we could use "espejo", but it would probably be some time before people would associate that word with the meaning it is understood in English when talking computerese. From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 19:18:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA09580 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from super.zippo.com (perry.zippo.com [207.211.168.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA09573 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:18:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reyesf@super.zippo.com) Received: (from reyesf@localhost) by super.zippo.com (8.8.6/8.8.7) id TAA12348; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:18:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712120318.TAA12348@super.zippo.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD WWW List" Date: Thu, 11 Dec 97 22:18:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sorry about "spanish translation" message. Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I sent a mistake which was supposed to go to the docs list here. Sorry. From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 19:18:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA09604 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA09587 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:18:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA02527; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:18:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Francisco Reyes cc: FreeBSD WWW List Subject: Re: FW: Re: Enhancing FreeBSD www pages In-Reply-To: <199712120253.VAA28642@federation.addy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Francisco Reyes wrote: > As an attachment or within the email? It doesn't really matter. I generally prefer attachments, so long as they have sensible MIME types like text/plain. Some mailers just label everything application/octet-stream which is really annoying. -john From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 20:02:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA13104 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:02:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13010 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 20:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27332; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:37:23 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199712120037.AAA27332@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Narana Kannappan cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Document not found - http://www.freebsd.org/~brian/ppp-971110-2.2-STABLE.bin.tar.gz In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:21:41 PST." <348F4025.7CC@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 00:37:22 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is now fixed - I got the month wrong (oops) :-) -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-www Thu Dec 11 22:53:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24935 for www-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:53:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-www) Received: from viper.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp ([157.16.10.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24909 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yono@viper.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp) Received: from viper.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14383 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:54:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199712120654.PAA14383@viper.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CDR Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:54:15 +0900 From: Yono Hadi Pramono Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 私はFreeBSD大好きですから、 ずっとこれからFreeBSDを使う。 今回はPLASMON WORM (CDR)を買ってしまった、 読めるために、書けるように、どうするんでしょう。 何かdriver あるんでそうか。 Linux でやったら、driver があるので、FreeBSD はどう???? お願い致します。 /~\ /___\ _______ \\\\|||//// ^ ^ ( _ _ ) \\_|||_// ( @ @ ) =(.)-(.)= ( # # ) (_) \ l / \ L / _oooO__W__Oooo_______ooo0____-____0ooo_________oooO(_~_)Oooo_ [__ __ ___] [_ __ Yono Hadi Pramono __] [__ ___ _] [_ __ http://www.uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp/~yono _] [ __ Email : yono@uopmu.ees.osakafu-u.ac.jp ] [ ] [ _ __ _ __] [_ __ oooO __ _] [_oooO____Oooo________________________________( )_____Oooo_] ( ) ( ) | \ / | \ ( ( ) \ ( ) / | / \ | \_) ) / \_) (_/ ooo0 0ooo (_/