From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 16 14:49:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14803 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14228 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25209 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28334; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:12:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:12:10 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: buildworld, anyone? X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13824.9321.674465.157851@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anybody managed to build the world since P day? I'm attempting to get a recent world onto a machine that's running -current from about 1 month ago. My first problem was that contrib/perl5/pp.c causes gcc to die. This allows me to make it past that point: RCS file: /scratch/freebsd-cvs/src/contrib/perl5/pp.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -r1.1.1.1 pp.c 1658a1659 > #if !(defined __FreeBSD__ && defined (__alpha)) 1659a1661 > #endif But I now die much later on: cat /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5/ext/re/re.pm > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/re.pm miniperl /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm Config.pm Porting/Glossary myconfig config.sh pid 24498 (miniperl): unaligned access: va=0x1202595cc pc=0x12005f570 ra=0x12005cebc op=stq ... ... pid 24498 (miniperl): unaligned access: va=0x120271284 pc=0x12005fc04 ra=0x12005b398 op=ldq *** Signal 11 I also whacked src/lib/libcam/scsi_cmdparse.c into submission via: RCS file: /scratch/freebsd-cvs/src/lib/libcam/scsi_cmdparse.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -r1.1 scsi_cmdparse.c 658c658 < ap = (va_list)0; --- > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); 681c681 < ap = (va_list)0; --- > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); 735c735 < ap = (va_list)0; --- > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); 776c776 < ap = (va_list)0; --- > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); 787c787 < ap = (va_list) 0; --- > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); Also, is there any way to pick up a buildworld *EXACTLY* where you left off, like a normal make would do? I'm doing this in the background on a slow box, and its getting rather frustrating.. Thanks, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 16 16:20:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06755 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06715 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id RAA28364; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:19:14 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199809162319.RAA28364@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: <13824.9321.674465.157851@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Sep 16, 98 05:12:10 pm" To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote... [ ... ] > I also whacked src/lib/libcam/scsi_cmdparse.c into submission via: > > RCS file: /scratch/freebsd-cvs/src/lib/libcam/scsi_cmdparse.c,v > retrieving revision 1.1 > diff -r1.1 scsi_cmdparse.c > 658c658 > < ap = (va_list)0; > --- > > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); > 681c681 > < ap = (va_list)0; > --- > > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); > 735c735 > < ap = (va_list)0; > --- > > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); > 776c776 > < ap = (va_list)0; > --- > > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); > 787c787 > < ap = (va_list) 0; > --- > > bzero((caddr_t)&ap, sizeof(va_list)); That's more or less the fix I checked in a little while ago. I also added a little more belt-and-suspenders checking, which shouldn't affect the alpha. Doug also ran into (and worked around) a compiler bug on the Alpha that causes it to blow up on rpc.rstatd. You'll probably want to get his fix. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 16 18:28:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05872 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05504 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28400; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28641; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:25:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:25:52 -0400 (EDT) To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: <199809162319.RAA28364@panzer.plutotech.com> References: <13824.9321.674465.157851@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <199809162319.RAA28364@panzer.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13824.24256.116468.579507@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kenneth D. Merry writes: > > That's more or less the fix I checked in a little while ago. I also added > a little more belt-and-suspenders checking, which shouldn't affect the > alpha. Thanks. Things are coming in so fast and furious now that my source tree is hopelessly out of date by the time I can get a buildworld to fail. Luckily almost everything coming in is a fix ;-) > Doug also ran into (and worked around) a compiler bug on the Alpha that > causes it to blow up on rpc.rstatd. You'll probably want to get his fix. > OK. Looks like Doug checked it in: dfr 1998/09/16 14:33:14 PDT Modified files: libexec/rpc.rstatd rstat_proc.c Log: Work around an alpha compiler bug. The perl5 stuff is what really bothers me, but it looks like Doug was at that too.. Here I go again ;-) Doug -- what's the state of the kernel now? I noticed a whole slew of commits. Is the only relevant patch now the addition of isa/sio.c ? Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 16 23:55:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04550 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04526 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA14124; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:55:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:55:17 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Andrew Gallatin cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: <13824.24256.116468.579507@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Kenneth D. Merry writes: > > > > That's more or less the fix I checked in a little while ago. I also added > > a little more belt-and-suspenders checking, which shouldn't affect the > > alpha. > > Thanks. Things are coming in so fast and furious now that my source > tree is hopelessly out of date by the time I can get a buildworld to > fail. Luckily almost everything coming in is a fix ;-) > > > Doug also ran into (and worked around) a compiler bug on the Alpha that > > causes it to blow up on rpc.rstatd. You'll probably want to get his fix. > > > > OK. Looks like Doug checked it in: > > dfr 1998/09/16 14:33:14 PDT > > Modified files: > libexec/rpc.rstatd rstat_proc.c > Log: > Work around an alpha compiler bug. > > > The perl5 stuff is what really bothers me, but it looks like Doug was > at that too.. Here I go again ;-) > > Doug -- what's the state of the kernel now? I noticed a whole slew of > commits. Is the only relevant patch now the addition of isa/sio.c ? Yes I think so. I need to find a few minutes to merge in the latest fixes to sio and get someone to do a repo-copy before I can commit that. My buildworlds are stopping on vidcontrol. I need to merge at least part of the latest vesa bits :-(. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 17 08:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29193 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29176 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08483; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00309; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Doug Rabson Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: References: <13824.24256.116468.579507@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13825.12055.724042.393479@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson writes: > > Doug -- what's the state of the kernel now? I noticed a whole slew of > > commits. Is the only relevant patch now the addition of isa/sio.c ? > > Yes I think so. I need to find a few minutes to merge in the latest fixes > to sio and get someone to do a repo-copy before I can commit that. > > My buildworlds are stopping on vidcontrol. I need to merge at least part > of the latest vesa bits :-(. Woo-hoo! After your latest commits, I was able to build the world! All it took to build the GENERIC kernel was to extract the isa/{sio.c,sioreg.h} files from http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/alpha-sys-diff-120998.gz and to comment out the non-CAM'ified scsi code for the TC alphas: Index: sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC =================================================================== RCS file: /scratch/freebsd-cvs/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -r1.6 GENERIC 60c60 < controller tcds0 --- > #controller tcds0 67c67 < controller esp0 --- > #controller esp0 Thanks a million. I'm going rebuild into a dynamic system right now. Thanks, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 17 10:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15900 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chaos.schizo.com (schizo.com [209.25.112.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15871 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bits@oldwarez.com) Received: from oldwarez.com (bits@oldwarez.com [209.25.112.18]) by chaos.schizo.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA13900 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:22:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BitS X-Sender: bits@chaos.schizo.com To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multia kernels Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any news on the multi kernel code? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 17 11:22:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25756 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25737 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16301; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:21:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:21:52 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Andrew Gallatin cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: <13825.12055.724042.393479@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Doug Rabson writes: > > > > Doug -- what's the state of the kernel now? I noticed a whole slew of > > > commits. Is the only relevant patch now the addition of isa/sio.c ? > > > > Yes I think so. I need to find a few minutes to merge in the latest fixes > > to sio and get someone to do a repo-copy before I can commit that. > > > > My buildworlds are stopping on vidcontrol. I need to merge at least part > > of the latest vesa bits :-(. > > Woo-hoo! After your latest commits, I was able to build the world! > > All it took to build the GENERIC kernel was to extract the > isa/{sio.c,sioreg.h} files from > http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/alpha-sys-diff-120998.gz > and to comment out the non-CAM'ified scsi code for the TC alphas: The ncr driver still needs a small patch but I think Justin will commit it soonish. > Thanks a million. I'm going rebuild into a dynamic system right now. > > Thanks, No problem :-) -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 17 14:34:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09670 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (pinsoft.internet.co.nz [202.37.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09434 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from tui.pinnacle.co.nz (tui.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.3]) by kakapo.pinnacle.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05584; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:31:20 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:30:40 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Andrew Gallatin cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld, anyone? In-Reply-To: <13825.12055.724042.393479@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Woo-hoo! After your latest commits, I was able to build the world! > > All it took to build the GENERIC kernel was to extract the > isa/{sio.c,sioreg.h} files from > http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr/alpha-sys-diff-120998.gz > and to comment out the non-CAM'ified scsi code for the TC alphas: As a lurker on the list, this is *MOST* exciting to hear! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen | -insert-witty-quip-here- ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 17 19:16:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05337 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05319 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zJq5S-00043X-00; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:15:54 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA23088 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199809180217.UAA23088@harmony.village.org> To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bootstrap Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:17:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the bootstrap proceedure for getting FreeBSD up and running on a alpha that is currently running DUX? Is there a snapshot that I can retrieve to make this easier? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 02:05:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03589 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03563 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18781; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:04:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:04:42 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: BitS cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia kernels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, BitS wrote: > > > Any news on the multi kernel code? None at the moment :-( -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 02:51:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08971 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08944 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18921; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:51:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:51:12 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Warner Losh cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrap In-Reply-To: <199809180217.UAA23088@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Warner Losh wrote: > > What's the bootstrap proceedure for getting FreeBSD up and running on > a alpha that is currently running DUX? Is there a snapshot that I can > retrieve to make this easier? There is a really old snapshot in http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr. I'm just trying to build a release here which would be far more useful. If the 'make release' works, I'll upload it somewhere but it might be a while. Gary Palmer has been trying to build releases too so he might beat me to it... I'll put up some fresh GENERIC kernels too before I go to work. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 04:15:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15282 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15276 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20943; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:15:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:15:17 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Warner Losh cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > What's the bootstrap proceedure for getting FreeBSD up and running on > > a alpha that is currently running DUX? Is there a snapshot that I can > > retrieve to make this easier? > > There is a really old snapshot in http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr. I'm just > trying to build a release here which would be far more useful. If the > 'make release' works, I'll upload it somewhere but it might be a while. > Gary Palmer has been trying to build releases too so he might beat me to > it... > > I'll put up some fresh GENERIC kernels too before I go to work. Hohum. Freefall is not answering and I can't upload anything. I'll try again later. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 05:33:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19379 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:33:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netserv1.chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19352 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ks@itp.ac.ru) Received: from speecart.chg.ru (speecart.chg.ru [193.233.46.2]) by netserv1.chg.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15680 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:32:40 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:31:48 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: KR21162CN Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Does anybody know something about Alpha processor KR-21162-533-CN ? Is it true DEC 21164 or is it some clone? Sergey. --- ---------------------------------- Sergey Kosyakov Laboratory of Distributed Computing Department of High-Performance Computing and Applied Network Research Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics E-Mail: ks@itp.ac.ru Date: 18-Sep-98 Time: 16:28:14 ---------------------------------- --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 12:31:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14532 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14527 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA22207 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:31:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:31:46 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New alpha kernels available. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have uploaded new post-cam kernels to http://www.freebsd.org/~dfr. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 18 17:18:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08487 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08480 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:18:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA21970; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:18:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Doug Rabson cc: BitS , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Multia kernels In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:04:42 BST." Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:18:11 -0400 Message-ID: <21966.906164291@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote in message ID : > None at the moment :-( Although my AlphaStation/600 is running fine with the new dynamic FreeBSD/Alpha. Thanks Doug & Company! Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 07:36:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08885 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu (PO8.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08880 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id KAA11687 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Valentino Crimi To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Current AS200 state Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now that the alpha port is fairly managable from an outsiders point of view, I was wondering as to a few current parts of it's state, not so much what's in the source tree now (I watch that like a hawk ;) but you developer's intentions over the next month. I'd like to try my hand at any of the necessary points on the AS200 if I can. E2 support - NetBSD has it, it shouldn't be too much of an issue to port? Floppy/Sound - Only linux has this, it's a long-shot for me, but if I can get E2 to work, it'd be a good finishing point, no? My question is, of course, is this on anyone's near-term ToDo list? I'm wondering if many Alpha's have much care for the latter, but from what I've seen many are shipped with E2/E3 cards and video display is always nice 8). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 08:28:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12921 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12911 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21305; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:28:08 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 16:28:08 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Thomas Valentino Crimi cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current AS200 state In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, Thomas Valentino Crimi wrote: > > Now that the alpha port is fairly managable from an outsiders point of > view, I was wondering as to a few current parts of it's state, not so > much what's in the source tree now (I watch that like a hawk ;) but you > developer's intentions over the next month. I'd like to try my hand at > any of the necessary points on the AS200 if I can. > > E2 support - NetBSD has it, it shouldn't be too much of an issue to port? > > Floppy/Sound - Only linux has this, it's a long-shot for me, but if I can > get E2 to work, it'd be a good finishing point, no? > > > My question is, of course, is this on anyone's near-term ToDo list? > I'm wondering if many Alpha's have much care for the latter, but from > what I've seen many are shipped with E2/E3 cards and video display is > always nice 8). Right now there is no TGA support at all, let alone E2 (I am assuming this is a TGA card?). It should be possible to hammer it into syscons though since with the recent vesa support, it can handle bitmapped console displays fairly easily. Floppy support would involve implementing the necessary hooks for ISA DMA (probably hard) and porting the fd driver to the new bus interface (pretty easy). Sound support is mostly a DMA issue too. Neither of these things are on my near-term todo list - I'm still struggling hard with 'make release' :-). If you want to tackle either of these jobs (or anything else on my whiteboard for that matter) then please go ahead and don't hesitate to contact me with questions if you don't understand anything. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 10:21:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22630 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spawn.nectar.com (spawn.nectar.com [204.27.67.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22620 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Received: from localhost.nectar.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=spawn.nectar.com) by spawn.nectar.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for alpha@freebsd.org id 0zKQgs-00062N-00; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:20:58 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine Subject: first attempt to boot FreeBSD kernel on AlphaStation 200 4/233 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:20:57 -0500 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm netbooting, by the way. Not sure what to look at for problems. Entering netbsd.gz at 0xfffffc0000320ea0... [ preserving 437312 bytes of kernel symbol table ] Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #18: Fri Sep 18 11:58:00 BST 1998 dfr@salmon.nlsystems.com:/mnt/herring/b/dfr/FreeBSD/alpha/src/sys/compile/GENERIC AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. real memory = 31506432 (30768K bytes) avail memory = 26533888 (25912K bytes) apecs0: isa0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: ncr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.6.0 chip0: rev 0x84 on pci0.7.0 de0: rev 0x24 int a irq 5 on pci0.11.0 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:23:27:c8 mcclock0: at 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sc0 at 0x60 irq 1 on isa0 halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = fffffc00005111a8 >>> Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNgPn+TeRhT8JRySpAQELrAP+JkEuGehdCXnXLYF/QjX0NU0WVM8FE/s4 Xv9uU9tZw9KIt7wa5uttrC3dcdpFPgbQAPLOnI3dRzE8TLRVXKMe85CvtDmpLqzt 2/90uDqGAMWMwiU1aQpy38//CSuImDMV3GjkR1thR901IGqvIdEtd/QbfEf7LFNW YRzzp65IuBI= =HkRc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 11:28:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02229 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02199 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24721; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:28:16 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:28:16 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Jacques Vidrine cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: first attempt to boot FreeBSD kernel on AlphaStation 200 4/233 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, Jacques Vidrine wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I'm netbooting, by the way. Not sure what to look at for problems. Could you send me the output of 'show config' and a dmesg from the NetBSD boot so that I can get some idea of what is in this machine, thanks. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 13:07:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16408 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16392 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thorpej@lestat.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26544; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809191949.MAA26544@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Thomas Valentino Crimi Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current AS200 state Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:49:38 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Thomas Valentino Crimi wrote: > Floppy/Sound - Only linux has this, it's a long-shot for me, but if I can > get E2 to work, it'd be a good finishing point, no? NetBSD supports audio on the Alphas. Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: +1 408 866 1912 NAS: M/S 258-5 Work: +1 650 604 0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: +1 650 940 5942 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 14:42:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02343 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02313 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zKUlf-0006Bp-00; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:42:11 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA05246 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199809192143.PAA05246@harmony.village.org> To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Making a disk bootable under dux Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:43:51 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible to make a FreeBSD disk bootable under DUX? That is, can I install the FreeBSD boot blocks using DUX? I suspect that I'd have to hack disklabel to do the right thing, as well as a special mknode that "copes" with DUX's way of putting special files into the file system. Is there anything fundamentally wrong with this idea? Right now, I have this disk that has all of FreeBSD alpha on it, but don't want to duplicate that on another machine just to netboot the thing to install the bootblocks. Comments? Warner P.S. I'm grabbing sources right now to see how hard this is really going to be... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 15:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05440 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05416 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21892; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 08:07:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199809192207.IAA21892@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Making a disk bootable under dux In-Reply-To: <199809192143.PAA05246@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Sep 19, 98 03:43:51 pm" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 08:07:08 +1000 (EST) Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh wrote: > > Is it possible to make a FreeBSD disk bootable under DUX? That is, > can I install the FreeBSD boot blocks using DUX? I suspect that I'd > have to hack disklabel to do the right thing, as well as a special > mknode that "copes" with DUX's way of putting special files into the > file system. Is there anything fundamentally wrong with this idea? > Right now, I have this disk that has all of FreeBSD alpha on it, but > don't want to duplicate that on another machine just to netboot the > thing to install the bootblocks. >From DUX, the "easy" thing to do is dd a disk image that already has the boot blocks on it. It's probably worth waiting a few weeks for things to settle down after the rush to beat the beta freeze for 3.0. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 15:26:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08394 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08380 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@duke.cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19142; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20631; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:26:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:26:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Warner Losh Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a disk bootable under dux In-Reply-To: <199809192143.PAA05246@harmony.village.org> References: <199809192143.PAA05246@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13828.12030.228472.369890@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh writes: > Right now, I have this disk that has all of FreeBSD alpha on it, but > don't want to duplicate that on another machine just to netboot the > thing to install the bootblocks. > > Comments? You don't need to duplicate the whole thing, just the kernel. The kernel you netboot will use the local disk as its root. Heck, I don't even know how to make FreeBSD/alpha use an nfs root these days.. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 19 15:32:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08987 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08981 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11822; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Doug Rabson cc: Thomas Valentino Crimi , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Current AS200 state In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Sep 1998 16:28:08 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: <11818.906244315@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote in message ID : > Neither of these things are on my near-term todo list - I'm still > struggling hard with 'make release' :-). If you want to tackle either of > these jobs (or anything else on my whiteboard for that matter) then please > go ahead and don't hesitate to contact me with questions if you don't > understand anything. I had make release working for Alpha before the i386 elf/perl5 changes went in and now I have conflicts all over the place. If the machines at work ever let me get a good nights sleep sometime soon I'll resolve those conflicts and start compiling again. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message