From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 10:16:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02734 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:16:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from engulf.com (brandon@engulf.com [207.96.124.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02727 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brandon@engulf.com) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by engulf.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA08703 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:13:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:13:09 -0500 (EST) From: Brandon Lockhart To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISDN Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an ISDN question, (go figure, I am writing this list), well, a few of them. I will be getting a dedicated ISDN line called "CENTREX" from my ISP soon. I am not sure if they are going to support compression, but I would like to get a router that supports 4:1 anyway. I have been looking at the Ascend Pipeline 50 for awhile now. But I am unsure about what I can do with it. I was reading on the Ascend site that the Pipeline 50 will disconnect, then once a connection is attempted, it would connect. And it would only use one B channel until 2 where needed. Is there a way I can turn that option off? So I am always connected and both channels are always in use. Since this is a dedicated connection, I won't be getting billed for my time online, so I might as well have full capacity. Also, do you recomend any other sort of router that I should look into? So far I know I need a few things. The router should be able to be plugged directly into my HUB, it should bond both channels for me already, without any special configuration. If the config is easy, that is fine too. I would like one where I can filter TCP and ICMP packets, but that is not necessary. Also, I have a question about the way the router is used. Below are some drawings. _____ Computer 1 ====isdn line from phone company===--'----- Computer 2 `----- Etc.. Is that how a normal configuration would go? Say Computer 1 was FreeBSD, and #2 was Windows NT. I would have 16 IP's for 3 computers on this particular example. With the router, could I assign 1.1.1.2 though 1.1.1.14 to the FreeBSD machine, 1.1.1.15 to the windows NT machine, 1.1.1.16 to the other computer, then 1.1.1.1 to the router. Would I make the gateway for #1, #2, and #3 1.1.1.1? What would the broadcast be? If I assigned those addresses to the FreeBSD machine for VHOSTS, would I have to do anything to the router? Below is an example I am curious about. ====isdn=====--- Computer #2 `-- Computer #3 Then would I make 1.1.1.2 (#1) the gateway on #2 and #3, and on #1 make the gateway 1.1.1.1? Third and final true question, If I got a regular ISDN router, would I need a TA? Ok, 4th question, last, honestly, is all this trouble worth it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 13:45:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08635 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wes2.limmat.ch (ns.limmat.ch [193.73.213.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08610 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mosh@wes2.limmat.ch) Received: from darmok (zhwbs-E1-02.limmat.ch [194.191.121.202]) by wes2.limmat.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA29213 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:45:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:45:20 +0100 (MET) From: Dennis Michl Subject: Appreciation To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Dennis Michl Message-ID: <980322224520.227AAFxH.mosh@darmok> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Address: 21 Fabrikstrasse, ZH 8005 Zurich, Switzerland X-Phone: Home +41 1 440 06 06, Fax +41 1 440 06 05, Work +41 1 239 93 64 X-URL: http://kino.ch/ X-Mailer: Eloquent[2.01]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hellmuth et al, I'd like to thank you for this fine piece of software which works quite well on my Compaq ProLinea 4/66 running FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE together with an AVM Fritz!Card. Not knowing much about synchronous PPP the examples on this mailing list were quite helpful. However, the "lf" part in >ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 lf netmask 0xffffff00 debug should be replaced by an IP address or at least explained in the contrib/PPP-setup-example. I'll let you know if I discover any serious bugs during the testing of the isdn4bsd package and I realize it's still in alpha. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to the upcoming enhancements and who knows, maybe channel bundling will be a subject as well. Cheers MoSH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: next iQEVAwUBNRWF7x6WZntgURpdAQFUvgf/RixNUcNWNcPN0C0PiZZzabtzvsZElgHw /4GnR9kMnYP0ubWR5+s/KsD4Dm7O1bITGLlzgKXzSEYP8yWrFWOH9Ul79l9g+a0b ybasuhPgiBJPHmPFcvxevcAaKdg3eXjWHdZVdyl0qXd6RaOceVUKEMVcH9Lfh2Aq UOXxRv6811P/lAk9w9up0oElkeEDSOh3deSHEsh6jWFcScJ9gRaQbfM45GlFSyy8 sjj56NwjXvuzydzzrgNCMLLKtUfIHB0H4tQ1cjBVdxYhfqGs9+6mxBAVt7BKby5f fqUdCOMW22XUrBqR+25grfhxirylGVTr/H1Z5kTU5CE4HCv3FR+3lg== =V2F1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 14:14:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14386 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14375 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA29610; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:14:15 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199803222214.XAA29610@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: <980322224520.227AAFxH.mosh@darmok> from Dennis Michl at "Mar 22, 98 10:45:20 pm" To: mosh@kino.ch Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:14:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- Start of PGP signed section. > Hellmuth et al, > > I'd like to thank you for this fine piece of software which works > quite well on my Compaq ProLinea 4/66 running FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE > together with an AVM Fritz!Card. Thank you! > Not knowing much about synchronous PPP the examples on this > mailing list were quite helpful. However, the "lf" part in > > >ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 lf netmask 0xffffff00 debug Ooops. I surely hope this did not go into the official documentation. I accidently put this example into a mail on this list, trying to be helpful, but causing more confusion than enlightenment. So please forget about this line. Instead replace ,,lf'' by the IP address of your ISP's PPP server. If his address is dynamic, replace ,,lf'' by 0.0.0.1 . This is partly documented in i4b/FAQ and in i4b/sppp/sppp.4 . sppp.4 is the troff source of a man page, which is not installed on FreeBSD 2.2.x . To display it, enter $ nroff -man sppp.4 | more Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 14:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16600 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wes2.limmat.ch (ns.limmat.ch [193.73.213.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16595 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mosh@wes2.limmat.ch) Received: from darmok (zhwbs-E1-06.limmat.ch [194.191.121.206]) by wes2.limmat.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00419 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:27:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:27:24 +0100 (MET) From: Dennis Michl Subject: Re: AM in C To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Dennis Michl Message-ID: <980322232724.227AAFxI.mosh@darmok> In-Reply-To: <199803101047.CAA04741@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Address: 21 Fabrikstrasse, ZH 8005 Zurich, Switzerland X-Phone: Home +41 1 440 06 06, Fax +41 1 440 06 05, Work +41 1 239 93 64 X-URL: http://kino.ch/ X-Mailer: Eloquent[2.01]; Eloquent is a Trademark of Take 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- David, >Did you try this at home? yes, I did. I like the idea of converting the raw audio file to .snd in order to listen to it. What bothers me though is that both in the C program as well as in the Shell script the outgoing message is heard. Who wants that? The recording should start only after the message is played. I tried some things to start the recording later, but none worked: * sleep (duration of OGM + duration of beep) * cat /dev/null > $DEVICE in order to flush its contents * dd in background, "wait", dd from $DEVICE Any ideas? MoSH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: next iQEVAwUBNRWP0h6WZntgURpdAQFkTAf+MKlsKh5UCgXYnaQGvHhIUbAWZpa8f+3P x9uWk3Oud70KpoB3BpoNQ0NmNT465JM4XDducsTD0TuSxLgRlaeVJfivq1tCrzrQ fwwu65EHbCqWeR5OcZJV2h0meqQ64sDporEfRO5GmJZXTIIM20nMRYmQCdTRDrWw lnahGqsZaGvCVKfsEA+6duFAjYB2P0o2nhaRjt0lj6SsEOUaqEAah7KtOU876XMi w1H6OaGibQ5zuyQVcGatjTEI0cIcxq5dO0F8HE0UQCxGR/Iq+qSISmMkj3NJNHu/ 3PdfsooujcEK+mi/PsSP+2SscTq/5kBzntoPaE8nPZ6ILsl2OJe+Ig== =TdvM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 14:38:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18143 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:38:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18137 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23527; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:37:49 +0100 (CET) To: Dennis Michl cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AM in C In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:27:24 +0100." <980322232724.227AAFxI.mosh@darmok> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: <23525.890606269@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <980322232724.227AAFxI.mosh@darmok>, Dennis Michl writes: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >David, > >>Did you try this at home? > > yes, I did. I like the idea of converting the raw audio file to >.snd in order to listen to it. What bothers me though is that >both in the C program as well as in the Shell script the outgoing >message is heard. Who wants that? The recording should start only >after the message is played. > > I tried some things to start the recording later, but none >worked: Just remove as many bytes from the received audio-stream as we sent out with the greeting ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 16:04:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02380 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from engulf.com (brandon@engulf.com [207.96.124.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02375 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brandon@engulf.com) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by engulf.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA10284 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:01:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: Brandon Lockhart To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fbsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a question for all you ISDN users who use an isdn router for there connection to the internet. What I need to know is if this connection scenario would work. ==isdn line===E Router ===E Computer #1 w/ freebsd & firewall \|/ HUB / \ /` '\ Computer #2 Computer #3 Say I had 4 ip's. My router was 1.1.1.1, #1 was 1.1.1.2, #2 was 1.1.1.3, and #3 was 1.1.1.4. On #1, would I make the gateway 1.1.1.1 (the router), and then on #2 and #3, make the gateway 1.1.1.2? What if I then got 1.1.1.5, and 1.1.1.6. Could I assign those two IP's to my FreeBSD machine using ifconfig, and then that is all. Or do I have to configure that in my router. Now, if I had the basic setup, ___ #1 ===isdn line====router====hub==='--- #2 `--- #3 With the router, could I filter out ALL incoming TCP connections to computers 2 and 3, but allow everything except icmp packets to #1? (deny icmp all around, and tcp on 2&3) Now, for this setting, with the same IP addresses, would my gateway on them all be 1.1.1.1, and then just assign the ip addresses like normal? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 16:43:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09324 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inn.aball.de (inn.aball.de [194.77.20.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09229 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: from harvey.aball.de (root@harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by inn.aball.de (8.8.8/971027/wpv/CA-2) with SMTP id BAA22948; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:42:53 +0100 (MET) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0yGvKE-000IwzC; Mon, 23 Mar 98 01:42 MET Received: from luigi.turbocat.de (luigi.turbocat.de [194.77.82.52]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18636; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:35:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by luigi.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id BAA01288; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:35:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803230035.BAA01288@luigi.turbocat.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 01:35:49 +0100 To: Dennis Michl Subject: Re: AM in C cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG References: <980322232724.227AAFxI.mosh@darmok> Organisation: Turbocat's Development Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:27:24 +0100 (MET) > From: Dennis Michl < > > yes, I did. I like the idea of converting the raw audio file to > .snd in order to listen to it. What bothers me though is that > both in the C program as well as in the Shell script the outgoing > message is heard. Who wants that? The recording should start only > after the message is played. As it is, you can talk right after the "Carrier". That saves money when you call from a mobile phone. --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION WATCH OUT FOR TURBOFAX for OPENSTEP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Mar 22 19:04:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00712 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (207-172-34-239.s48.as12.rkv.erols.com [207.172.34.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00686 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from localhost (crb@localhost) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01149; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:42:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.ChrisBowman.com: crb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:42:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Bowman" To: Brandon Lockhart cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Brandon Lockhart wrote: >I have an ISDN question, (go figure, I am writing this list), well, a few >of them. I will be getting a dedicated ISDN line called "CENTREX" from my >ISP soon. I am not sure if they are going to support compression, but I >would like to get a router that supports 4:1 anyway. I have been looking >at the Ascend Pipeline 50 for awhile now. But I am unsure about what I >can do with it. I was reading on the Ascend site that the Pipeline 50 >will disconnect, then once a connection is attempted, it would connect. >And it would only use one B channel until 2 where needed. Is there a way >I can turn that option off? So I am always connected and both channels >are always in use. Since this is a dedicated connection, I won't be >getting billed for my time online, so I might as well have full capacity. > >Also, do you recomend any other sort of router that I should look into? >So far I know I need a few things. The router should be able to be >plugged directly into my HUB, it should bond both channels for me already, >without any special configuration. If the config is easy, that is fine >too. I would like one where I can filter TCP and ICMP packets, but that >is not necessary. Also, I have a question about the way the router is >used. Below are some drawings. I hear that the netopia routers from farallon are nice. _____ Computer 1 >====isdn line from phone company===--'----- Computer 2 > `----- Etc.. > >Is that how a normal configuration would go? Say Computer 1 was FreeBSD, >and #2 was Windows NT. I would have 16 IP's for 3 computers on this >particular example. With the router, could I assign 1.1.1.2 though >1.1.1.14 to the FreeBSD machine, 1.1.1.15 to the windows NT machine, >1.1.1.16 to the other computer, then 1.1.1.1 to the router. Would I make >the gateway for #1, #2, and #3 1.1.1.1? What would the broadcast be? If >I assigned those addresses to the FreeBSD machine for VHOSTS, would I have >to do anything to the router? Below is an example I am curious about. If you are subnetting the block of 16 addresses, then right away 2 address' are reserved, the zero, and all ones addesses identify the network, and it's broadcast address respectively. >====isdn=====--- Computer #2 > `-- Computer #3 >Then would I make 1.1.1.2 (#1) the gateway on #2 and #3, and on #1 make >the gateway 1.1.1.1? yes >Third and final true question, If I got a regular ISDN router, would I >need a TA? Ok, 4th question, last, honestly, is all this trouble worth >it? Depends on the router, most I have seen have the TA built in, but I think there are some where it is an option, sometimes the documentation say S/T interface sometimes U interface, I forget though which one means built in TA. It probably is worth the effort, and is probably even easier than setting up a workstation with a TA, and doing the routing on that. >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message > > --------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com My home page To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 04:21:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05266 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 04:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA05260 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 04:21:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1785 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:21:05 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #16 built 1997-Oct-22) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m0yH6FG-0000dUC; Mon, 23 Mar 98 13:22 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: <199803222214.XAA29610@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> from Wolfgang Helbig at "Mar 22, 98 11:14:14 pm" To: helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE (Wolfgang Helbig) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:22:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: mosh@kino.ch, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the keyboard of Wolfgang Helbig: > > Not knowing much about synchronous PPP the examples on this > > mailing list were quite helpful. However, the "lf" part in > > > > >ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 lf netmask 0xffffff00 debug > > Ooops. I surely hope this did not go into the official documentation. This mail made it into the contrib section as PPP-setup-example ;-) > I accidently put this example into a mail on this list, trying to > be helpful, but causing more confusion than enlightenment. Would you perhaps send/post an update to your config example ? hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm@hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 05:43:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16341 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16294 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 05:43:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simons@petium.rhein.de) Received: from petium.rhein.de (root@petium.rhein.de [193.175.27.251]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.8.8-ws3/8.8.8-ws3) with ESMTP id OAA20734 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:43:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by petium.rhein.de id OAA00328; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:43:26 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems on NetBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Peter Simons Date: 23 Mar 1998 14:43:25 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 82 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I have installed the latest alpha release of i4b (i4b-00.50-alpha-130398.tgz) and tried it on my NetBSD/i386 1.3 box, unfortunately without success. The card I am using is a Teles S0.16 card, without Plug&Play. I have installed software following the documentation, and booted the machine with the new kernel: | isic0 at isa0 port 0xd80-0xd87 iomem 0xd0000-0xd0fff irq 10: | Teles S0/16, Creatix ISDN S0-16 or Niccy 1016 | isic0: ISAC 2085 Version V2.3 (B3) (IOM-1) | isic0: HSCX 82525 or 21525 Version 2.1 | biomask 8040 netmask c440 ttymask c4c2 | i4b: ISDN call control device attached | i4btrc: 1 ISDN trace device(s) attached | i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached | i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached | i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached | i4bipr: 2 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached | i4bisppp: 2 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached Then I called isdntest and got the following result: | root@petium:/usr/home/simons# isdntest -i my_number -o my_number | isdntest: accepting calls from telephone number [my_number] | isdntest: calling out telephone number [my_number] | isdntest: got cdid 3 from kernel | isdntest: calling out to telephone number [my_number] from then on, I see lots of messages from the kernel and nothing else happens: | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | i4b-L2-i4b_T202_timeout: unit 0, N202 = 3 | [...] | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | i4b-L3-T303_timeout: cr = 13 | i4b-L3-next_l3state: FSM illegal state, state = ST_OW - Out Wait EST, | event = EV_T303EXP - T303 timeout! | i4b-L2-i4b_T202_timeout: unit 0, N202 = 3 | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | [...] | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | i4b-L2-F_ILL: FSM function F_ILL executing | i4b-L2-i4b_next_l2state: FSM illegal state, state = ST_EST_AW_TEI, | event = EV_DLESTRQ! | i4b-L2-i4b_T202_timeout: unit 0, N202 = 3 | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | i4b-L2-i4b_T202_timeout: unit 0, N202 = 3 | i4b-L2-i4b_tei_assign: tx TEI ID_Request | i4b-L3-T303_timeout: cr = 20 | i4b-L3-next_l3state: FSM illegal state, state = ST_OW - Out Wait EST, | event = EV_T303EXP - T303 timeout! | [...] Does anyone have an idea what is going wrong and what I could try? Just for the record, the isic0 device is configured as follows: | options TEL_S0_16 | isic0 at isa? port 0xd80 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 The card is a PCI card, so I assume the interrupts are not fixed, but are assigned by the BIOS? Anyway... any comments or ideas are appreciated. -peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNRZm/A9HL1s0103BAQE7sgQAvgA30+jGG9YGK8ocdQ7Xmgi0zBCiWqre N8RC6PL3BAVCaoNelMAqx8kYvXTixLfX2nslfD0LwAoH6eAul2N/51ipZ1GkTId8 VNkTgZmBGHt0E2hEjdkLIA9NlW8aL/oU0yGrmJUInjBIp38HAbiBcGePfCXyQU5u wnyiL4tFfRQ= =F/+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 06:16:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20089 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inn.aball.de (inn.aball.de [194.77.20.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20064 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: from harvey.aball.de (root@harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by inn.aball.de (8.8.8/971027/wpv/CA-2) with SMTP id PAA12848; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:16:24 +0100 (MET) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0yH81V-000IxBC; Mon, 23 Mar 98 15:16 MET Received: from luigi.turbocat.de (luigi.turbocat.de [194.77.82.52]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29103; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:51:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by luigi.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA00504; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:51:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803231351.OAA00504@luigi.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 14:51:48 +0100 To: Peter Simons Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG References: Organisation: Turbocat's Development Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Peter Simons > Then I called isdntest and got the following result: ISDNTEST is not usable. Try my anwering machine (after customizing the src in .../contrib/). Also try isdntrace and whatch /var/log/messages after stating isdnd. --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION WATCH OUT FOR TURBOFAX for OPENSTEP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 06:27:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21591 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA21585 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1578 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:27:23 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #16 built 1997-Oct-22) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m0yH8Df-0000dUC; Mon, 23 Mar 98 15:28 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD In-Reply-To: from Peter Simons at "Mar 23, 98 02:43:25 pm" To: simons@rhein.de (Peter Simons) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:28:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the keyboard of Peter Simons: > I have installed the latest alpha release of i4b > (i4b-00.50-alpha-130398.tgz) and tried it on my NetBSD/i386 1.3 box, > unfortunately without success. [...] > The card is a PCI card, PCI cards are currently not supported by isdn4bsd. Anyway, its astonishing the card is probed correctly so the "only" problem seems to be that no interrupts seems to be generated which is (one of) the cause of the "TEI" messages. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm@hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 07:03:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28693 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28660 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simons@petium.rhein.de) Received: from petium.rhein.de (root@petium.rhein.de [193.175.27.251]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.8.8-ws3/8.8.8-ws3) with ESMTP id QAA22613 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:03:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from simons@localhost) by petium.rhein.de id QAA00377; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:03:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:03:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199803231503.QAA00377@petium.rhein.de> From: Peter Simons To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (hm@hcs.de) Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD (solved) Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I did some experimenting with the IRQ value and finally came around to test IRQ 15 and voila, the card works. Seems like the reason it didn't work earlier was an ordinary configuration error. :-) Anyway I just transferred my first "ping" through the ISDN line and everything is fine now. Thanks to all who replied! -peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNRZ5qg9HL1s0103BAQEWTAP/au0wFCjLcC+wB5YgAh9sA3KbQahWi263 UcmaVAu41PvOfDuputXcbg7+ugKvCcTvm9fMgBaEoFC236LjAB10sNvOVVpOBXVs flKh7AegthIH3UFBn+n9vD7DNi8G4ZZVIAALEINB9MDedeThmVlyE59b+PozYBR8 9tW72evmJs0= =64dg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 07:07:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29135 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from yalta.NL.net (yalta.NL.net [193.78.240.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29127 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:07:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lurkie@pi.net) Received: from solair1.inter.NL.net ([193.78.240.13]:45069 "EHLO solair1.inter.NL.net" ident: "IDENT-NOT-QUERIED") by yalta.NL.net with ESMTP id <14168-5148>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:06:43 +0100 Received: from pi.net (rtd75-isdn.worldaccess.nl [195.108.117.78]) by solair1.inter.NL.net (8.8.7/8.8.7/NLnet Revision: 1.49 ) with SMTP id QAA26763 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:06:39 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803231506.QAA26763@solair1.inter.NL.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:10:36 +0100 From: Marc Veldman Reply-To: Marc Veldman To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN X-Mailer: AK-Mail 3.0b [eng] (unregistered) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3/22/98 Brandon Lockhart wrote: > will disconnect, then once a connection is attempted, it would connect. > And it would only use one B channel until 2 where needed. Is there a way > I can turn that option off? Yes, you can turn it off. > So I am always connected and both channels > are always in use. Since this is a dedicated connection, I won't be > getting billed for my time online, so I might as well have full capacity. Am I wrong in getting the impression that you will have a leased line ? If so, the pipeline has options for that too. > Also, do you recomend any other sort of router that I should look into? > So far I know I need a few things. The router should be able to be > plugged directly into my HUB, it should bond both channels for me already, It comes with all the network cable you need, but you might need serial cable to set it up for the first time, after that, you can always set it up via the network. If you only have one computer to connect to the router, you don't a hub. A cross-connect cable comes with it. > without any special configuration. If the config is easy, that is fine > too. I would like one where I can filter TCP and ICMP packets, but that > is not necessary. Also, I have a question about the way the router is Configuring is fairly easy, and it also has options for filtering. > used. Below are some drawings. > _____ Computer 1 > ====isdn line from phone company===--'----- Computer 2 > `----- Etc.. > Is that how a normal configuration would go? Say Computer 1 was FreeBSD, > and #2 was Windows NT. I would have 16 IP's for 3 computers on this > particular example. With the router, could I assign 1.1.1.2 though > 1.1.1.14 to the FreeBSD machine, 1.1.1.15 to the windows NT machine, As Christopher R. Bowman said in his reply, you would only be able to use 1.1.1.1 through 1.1.1.14. 1.1.1.0 would be the network address, and 1.1.1.15 would be the broadcast address, assuming of course that your netmask is set to: 255.255.255.240 > 1.1.1.16 to the other computer, then 1.1.1.1 to the router. Would I make > the gateway for #1, #2, and #3 1.1.1.1? What would the broadcast be? If > I assigned those addresses to the FreeBSD machine for VHOSTS, would I have > to do anything to the router? Below is an example I am curious about. > ====isdn=====--- Computer #2 > `-- Computer #3 > Then would I make 1.1.1.2 (#1) the gateway on #2 and #3, and on #1 make > the gateway 1.1.1.1? This setup would not be a good idea, since based on the above netmask, all computers would be in the same subnet, while in this setup you actually need two subnets, seperated by comp #1. Computer #1, which should have two network cards, should have one card set to 1.1.2.2 (for example) and the router to 1.1.2.2. The 172.16.xxx.xxx series is an example. Also, with the firewall, you run your own network behind it, and you would not be limited to 14 network addresses. If you would want internet access, then it would also be a good idea to choose network addresses that are not assigned in the internet. > Third and final true question, If I got a regular ISDN router, would I > need a TA? If all you want to do is network over ISDN, then no. > Ok, 4th question, last, honestly, is all this trouble worth > it? To me it was, it is a lot easier to set up than a computer with ISDN card/TA, router software etc...... My fl. 0.02, Marc Veldman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 14:07:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22566 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:07:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22559 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA27600; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:07:05 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199803232207.XAA27600@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD (solved) In-Reply-To: <199803231503.QAA00377@petium.rhein.de> from Peter Simons at "Mar 23, 98 04:03:07 pm" To: simons@rhein.de (Peter Simons) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:07:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- Start of PGP signed section. > I did some experimenting with the IRQ value and finally came around to > test IRQ 15 and voila, the card works. Seems like the reason it didn't > work earlier was an ordinary configuration error. :-) Glad to hear! On my PC (Phoenix BIOS 1994) I tried to use IRQ 10 for a NE2000 compatible. It took me some time to find out that this very IRQ line is used by the BIOS! Under the BIOS setup menu ``Green PC Features'' there is one line ``Non_SMI CPU support: [Generate IRQ 10]'' The only other option is ``Generate IRQ 15'', which is already used by my secondary IDE controller. So I lost one valuable IRQ because of this silly ``feature''. BTW. Anyone knows what they mean by ``Non_SMI CPU support''? I know of one other case, where a teles 16.3 would not interrupt at IRQ 9. Now it's using IRQ 5 and working fine. (No, I did not try to write IRQ 2 into the latch during probe/attach) The lesson learned: If your ISDN (or whatever) card doesn't work, give IRQ 5 a try. Of course, if already used by another card, remove this card and disable the driver in the kernel. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 14:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25862 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25748 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA28970; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:24:30 +0100 (CET) To: Wolfgang Helbig cc: simons@rhein.de (Peter Simons), freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD (solved) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:07:04 +0100." <199803232207.XAA27600@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: <28968.890691870@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >BTW. Anyone knows what they mean by ``Non_SMI CPU support''? That the CPU lacks the special SMI support. Check any P5 databook to learn more than you ever wanted. It's kind of like a RNMI (Really NonMaskable Interrupt). -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 14:27:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26656 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:27:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26625 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:27:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA27652; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:28:03 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199803232228.XAA27652@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Mar 23, 98 01:22:26 pm" To: hm@hcs.de Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:28:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, mosh@kino.ch, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hellmuth is back in town and had to say: > >From the keyboard of Wolfgang Helbig: > > > > Not knowing much about synchronous PPP the examples on this > > > mailing list were quite helpful. However, the "lf" part in > > > > > > >ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 lf netmask 0xffffff00 debug > > > > Ooops. I surely hope this did not go into the official documentation. > > This mail made it into the contrib section as PPP-setup-example ;-) Didn't know that. Well, contrib is not that official, is it :-) > > I accidently put this example into a mail on this list, trying to > > be helpful, but causing more confusion than enlightenment. > > Would you perhaps send/post an update to your config example ? BTW. Is there a reason we don't install sppp.4--at least in FreeBSD 2.2.x and NetBSD (it is installed allready in -current)? > hellmuth Here is a diff: Wolfgang --- /home/helbig/src/i4b/contrib/PPP-setup-example Wed Mar 11 10:35:49 1998 +++ contrib/PPP-setup-example Mon Mar 23 23:17:03 1998 @@ -19,8 +19,10 @@ > I mean: Maybe not cool, but simple, this is for pap, chap should work similarly: +(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is your ISP's dial in IP address. If unknown, use +0.0.0.1 ) -ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 lf netmask 0xffffff00 debug +ifconfig isppp0 link1 0.0.0.0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 0xffffff00 debug ifconfig isppp0 down spppcontrol isppp0 myauthproto=pap \ myauthname=helbig myauthsecret=XXXXXXX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Mar 23 22:32:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29520 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA29512 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0yHNFi-0032P5C; Tue, 24 Mar 98 07:32 MET Received: from bert.kts.org(really [194.55.156.2]) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:32:11 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #3 built 1998-Feb-14) Received: by bert.kts.org via sendmail with stdio id for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:29:34 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #7 built 1997-Jul-4) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: <199803232228.XAA27652@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> from Wolfgang Helbig at "Mar 23, 98 11:28:02 pm" To: helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE (Wolfgang Helbig) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:29:34 +0100 (CET) Cc: hm@hcs.de, helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, mosh@kino.ch, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfgang Helbig wrote: > BTW. Is there a reason we don't install sppp.4--at least in > FreeBSD 2.2.x and NetBSD (it is installed allready in -current)? Yes, the reason is that i don't know where to install to and what to save before installing and to restore on uninstall. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe "Those who can, do. Those who can't, talk. And those who can't talk, talk about talking." (B. Shaw) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 01:42:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29743 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.112.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29672 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:41:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA00453; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:17 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199803240940.KAA00453@rvc1.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Mar 24, 98 06:29:34 am" To: hm@kts.org Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:40:16 +0100 (MET) Cc: helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, hm@hcs.de, mosh@kino.ch, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Wolfgang Helbig wrote: > > > BTW. Is there a reason we don't install sppp.4--at least in > > FreeBSD 2.2.x and NetBSD (it is installed allready in -current)? > > Yes, the reason is that i don't know where to install to and what to > save before installing and to restore on uninstall. So I suggest to move sppp/sppp.4 to man/sppp.4 and install sppp.4 if we are not running FreeBSD-3.0. Here is diff to man/Makefile that tries to accomplish just that: Wolfgang --- /usr/src/i4b/man/Makefile Tue Feb 3 15:37:16 1998 +++ man/Makefile Tue Mar 24 10:30:10 1998 @@ -5,10 +5,18 @@ BSDTYPE!=uname .endif +.if !defined(RELEASE) +RELEASE!=uname -r +.endif + +.if (${BSDTYPE} == "NetBSD" || \ + ${BSDTYPE} == "FreeBSD" && ${RELEASE} != "3.0-CURRENT") +MAN4 += sppp.4 +.endif + .if (${BSDTYPE} == "NetBSD") # NetBSD needs MAN to be defined MAN = $(MAN4) .endif .include To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 12:14:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24292 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (root@marlin.corp.gulf.net [198.69.72.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24285 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (tbackman@marlin.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.2]) by marlin.corp.gulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29356 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:12:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:12:04 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Backman Reply-To: Todd Backman To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2channels with pppd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone use pppd w/ 2channel ISDN? If so, how do you get the second channel up? I do not need a whole lot of features (just net access) so I haven't investigated isdn4bsd or bisdn. I use a bitsurfer pro at home with no problem on one channel. Thanks for your time. ===================================================================== Todd Backman (tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Network Engineering Systems/POP Administration Gulf Coast Internet Company 1-800-444-INET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 14:51:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14131 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:51:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14126 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA27184 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:51:08 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA02642; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:56:52 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199803242056.VAA02642@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: 2channels with pppd In-Reply-To: from Todd Backman at "Mar 24, 98 02:12:04 pm" To: tbackman@corp.gulf.net Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:56:52 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Todd Backman wrote... > > Does anyone use pppd w/ 2channel ISDN? If so, how do you get the second > channel up? I do not need a whole lot of features (just net access) so I > haven't investigated isdn4bsd or bisdn. I use a bitsurfer pro at home with > no problem on one channel. Thanks for your time. I also have a BSurfer. Although I never tried it myself setting up 2x64k is just a matter of sending it the right AT command. RTFM of the BS manual is advised. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko @ yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW: http://www.tcja.nl -------------------------------------------------- Powered by FreeBSD ------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 14:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14207 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14202 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA01629; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:52:08 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA01749; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:52:07 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980324235207.50479@follo.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:52:07 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Todd Backman , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2channels with pppd References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Todd Backman on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:12:04PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:12:04PM -0600, Todd Backman wrote: > > Does anyone use pppd w/ 2channel ISDN? If so, how do you get the second > channel up? I do not need a whole lot of features (just net access) so I > haven't investigated isdn4bsd or bisdn. I use a bitsurfer pro at home with > no problem on one channel. Thanks for your time. There is no support for multilink PPP at the present time. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 15:10:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15712 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15624 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01865; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:08:17 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA01808; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:08:16 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980325000816.26573@follo.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:08:16 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: Todd Backman , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2channels with pppd References: <19980324235207.50479@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980324235207.50479@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 11:52:07PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 11:52:07PM +0100, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:12:04PM -0600, Todd Backman wrote: > > > > Does anyone use pppd w/ 2channel ISDN? If so, how do you get the second > > channel up? I do not need a whole lot of features (just net access) so I > > haven't investigated isdn4bsd or bisdn. I use a bitsurfer pro at home with > > no problem on one channel. Thanks for your time. > > There is no support for multilink PPP at the present time. Just to make this clear: "no support" refer to in bisdn and i4b. The Bitsurfer has multilink support by re-coding the PPP stream; most likely controlled by AT&J<0-3>. At least the Omni TA (which manual I had on the table beside my computer :-) is controlled as follows: AT&J0 No multilink AT&J1 Multilink when answering AT&J2 Multilink when calling out (what you're interested in?) AT&J3 Multilink in both directions Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Mar 24 16:44:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29760 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:44:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scsn.net (ppp125.coladlp2.scsn.net [208.133.153.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29745 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmaddox@scsn.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by scsn.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01672; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:18 GMT (envelope-from root) Message-ID: <19980324194417.03181@scsn.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:44:17 +0000 From: "Donald J.Maddox" To: Todd Backman , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2channels with pppd Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Todd Backman on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:12:04PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 02:12:04PM -0600, Todd Backman wrote: > > Does anyone use pppd w/ 2channel ISDN? If so, how do you get the second > channel up? I do not need a whole lot of features (just net access) so I > haven't investigated isdn4bsd or bisdn. I use a bitsurfer pro at home with > no problem on one channel. Thanks for your time. All you should need to do is: 1) Use the init string 'AT&F%A2=95%A4=0@B0=2'. This tells the BSPro to use MLPPP at 64Kbps/channel, and to use both channels. 2) Use a dial string with the '&' syntax to connect both channels. For example, my ISP's number is 7790055, and the same number is used to connect both channels, so I set the phone number to '7790055&7790055', or, just '7790055&5' (use the docs :-) ). In general, the syntax is you need is &. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 25 01:14:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05080 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05062 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simons@petium.rhein.de) Received: from petium.rhein.de (root@petium.rhein.de [193.175.27.251]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.8.8-ws3/8.8.8-ws3) with ESMTP id KAA29990 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:13:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from simons@localhost) by petium.rhein.de id KAA05700; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:13:56 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fax Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Peter Simons Date: 25 Mar 1998 10:13:54 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, does anyone know a software that can receive/send fax over ISDN? I am using a Fritz!Card, which can handle group 3 (analogous) fax, but I can't find any hint in the i4b software that this is supported in any way. -peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNRjK0g9HL1s0103BAQFuAgP/b1YSPpcCS2lpfszg+p5Gjb4ShoaCq+WB E4+CE7obB88H3yEkFag2sC8pNXlpTYNmCWYDEmaDTuYzf2zRNgc5tr1XsFLwX9PC AjK6UPdC7H9tqsXRCM/hxhBJcOMzhYR7pT21jMj20MlSj7WiqvK1MCHc3AaN9RQf ofx02KfduTY= =eeWs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 25 02:02:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11782 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:02:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11770 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from etonumo@eto.ericsson.se) Received: from hare-server0 (hareb0.eto.ericsson.se [193.160.206.3]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with SMTP id LAA22228; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:01:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from dinosaur by hare-server0 (5.0/LME-DOM-2.2.3 (hare)) id AA03333; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:01:26 +0100 Received: by dinosaur (5.0/client-1.5 (hare)) id AA18606; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:01:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:01:24 +0100 Message-Id: <9803251001.AA18606@dinosaur> From: Ulltveit-Moe Nils To: Peter Simons Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fax In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.103) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Simons writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hi, > > does anyone know a software that can receive/send fax over ISDN? I am > using a Fritz!Card, which can handle group 3 (analogous) fax, but I > can't find any hint in the i4b software that this is supported in any > way. This is probably not implemented. Implementing G3 fax in ISDN would mean simulating an analog modem on the digital link. This means having to generate the right waveforms for the modulated data, and receive analog data from the other end which you had to run FFT analysis on and then interpret. In addition you have to do this in realtime, to be able to deal with the timing involved in the fax protocol, something neither FreeBSD or Linux is good at in their native form.. A third point is that a software simulated faxmodem usually does not work well. I tested Teles software faxmodem in Win-95 towards an Ericsson V34 HE modem, and was able to send faxes from the ISDN card at 4800 baud only, and receive faxes ad 9600 baud only(!) (And it is not the Ericsson modems fault, it works flawlessly towards other fax machines.) My point is that the best thing to do is to use an ordinary faxmodem to handle faxes with Hylafax of mgetty+sendfax or efax, or you may use a combined ISDN card with an analog part. Of course, if you are crazy enough, you may try to implement a software simulated modem in e.g. RT-linux, or a similar realtime extension for FreeBSD. Best regards, Nils Ulltveit-Moe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Mar 25 07:45:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27067 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from 198.53.66.212 (gw.nova-networks.com [198.53.66.212] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA27062 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:45:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterc@nova-networks.com) Received: from freezer (unverified [10.0.0.19]) by machine20.nova-networks.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:44:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325104503.00905b10@nova-networks.com> X-Sender: peterc@nova-networks.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:45:03 -0500 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG From: Peter Carter Subject: ISDN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if a SportsterISDN will work? If so, will it bond using channel bonding? My ISP does not properly implement MPP (cisco borderware crap). -- Peter Carter Media Wave web / solutions 55 Metcalfe Street Suite 280 Ottawa, Ontario Canada. K1P 6L5 Phone: 613.563.8170 Pager: 613.751.4660 Fax: 613.563.8045 Toll Free: 1.888.296.6682 http://www.mediawav.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 26 05:54:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07556 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07488 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [194.77.23.161]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03425; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:52:33 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA05450; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:51 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199803260826.JAA05450@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Fax To: etonumo@eto.ericsson.se (Ulltveit-Moe Nils) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:51 +0100 (MET) Cc: simons@rhein.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9803251001.AA18606@dinosaur> from "Ulltveit-Moe Nils" at Mar 25, 98 11:01:24 am Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This is probably not implemented. No, it is not implemented. > Implementing G3 fax in ISDN would mean simulating an analog modem > on the digital link. This means having to generate the right waveforms > for the modulated data, and receive analog data from the other end > which you had to run FFT analysis on and then interpret. Probably not an FFT, a simple IIR filter might do (but I'm not good enough in signal proccessing to be sure) > In addition you have to do this in realtime, to be able to deal with > the timing involved in the fax protocol, something neither > FreeBSD or Linux is good at in their native form.. Not that hard real time. You know, you can do this on a 486/33 running Windows 3.1 - so you realy should be able to do this on any BSD with a 486 or better. I once looked at doing this (and might reconsider doing it just for fun if I get hold of all the neccessary standards for less than a few thousand dollars). I use an active card (with very limited on-board resources) and would try to handle at least parts of the d/a and a/d, if not all of the G3 protocol, on the card itself. But since you can't easily debug there, I would first implement a pure kernel based version. Anyway, your real point "use dedicated hardware" is correct. That's why I have a paper fax now. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Mar 26 06:26:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14543 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk ([195.8.135.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14533 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01158; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:25:08 +0100 (CET) To: Martin Husemann cc: etonumo@eto.ericsson.se (Ulltveit-Moe Nils), simons@rhein.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fax In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:51 +0100." <199803260826.JAA05450@rumolt.teuto.de> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:25:07 +0100 Message-ID: <1156.890922307@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199803260826.JAA05450@rumolt.teuto.de>, Martin Husemann writes: >> This is probably not implemented. > >No, it is not implemented. > >> Implementing G3 fax in ISDN would mean simulating an analog modem >> on the digital link. This means having to generate the right waveforms >> for the modulated data, and receive analog data from the other end >> which you had to run FFT analysis on and then interpret. > >Probably not an FFT, a simple IIR filter might do (but I'm not good >enough in signal proccessing to be sure) You have it easy, the signal is already digitized for you, but it is way harder than this, you need to phasedetect it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 27 01:40:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24884 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24875 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [194.77.23.161]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28780; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:40:22 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA06570; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:22 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199803270931.KAA06570@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD To: hm@hcs.de Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: simons@rhein.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Hellmuth Michaelis" at Mar 23, 98 03:28:55 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyway, its astonishing the card is probed correctly so the "only" > problem seems to be that no interrupts seems to be generated which > is (one of) the cause of the "TEI" messages. Thank's to NetBSD bus.h framework this should work - BUT I think interrupts can't work without the right attachement to the pci bus. (Depending on the bridge chipset and the interrupt routing established by the bios, but maybe the isa-at-pci bus handles this all, I don't know) Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Mar 27 01:40:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24885 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24873 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [194.77.23.161]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28773; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:40:20 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA06581; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:32:39 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199803270932.KAA06581@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Problems on NetBSD To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:32:39 +0100 (MET) Cc: simons@rhein.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803231351.OAA00504@luigi.turbocat.de> from "David Wetzel" at Mar 23, 98 02:51:48 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ISDNTEST is not usable. Try my anwering machine (after customizing the src > in .../contrib/). Also try isdntrace and whatch /var/log/messages after > stating isdnd. This is simply wrong. Isdnest works out of the box. Just make sure you don't have isdnd running already ;-) Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message