From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 01:59:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04925 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 01:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04903 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 01:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id KAA00565; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:45:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA09763; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:32:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980215103222.55848@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:32:22 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Harlan Stenn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web maintenance interface to sendmail's virtusertable? References: <26210.887498502@mumps.pfcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <26210.887498502@mumps.pfcs.com>; from Harlan Stenn on Sat, Feb 14, 1998 at 06:21:42PM -0500 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 14, 1998 at 06:21:42PM -0500, Harlan Stenn wrote: > Can somebody point me to a web interface that will let end users, domain > administrators, and a "root" equivalent perform suitably delineated > updates to sendmail's virtusertable? One of the reasons why we run Netscape Mail server, because it allows admins and end users to configure their account via Navigator. But I'm not happy with that payware and would like to have the same as you want ... But I'd like to have a database which creates the virtusertable automatically ... -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 12:23:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16872 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16864 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA23780; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023776; Sun Feb 15 12:22:07 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA25309; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:22:01 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199802152022.MAA25309@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions In-Reply-To: <199802130318.WAA07752@sabre.goldsword.com> from "John T. Farmer" at "Feb 12, 98 10:18:37 pm" To: jfarmer@goldsword.com (John T. Farmer) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:22:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, joe@thebestisp.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John T. Farmer writes: > 4. In almost every instance that one of my client's have installed > a cross-over cable between two Ethernet devices, they have ended > up replacing it shortly with a hub. Why? If you have two > machines wired together, soon there will be a reason to be > able to connect up the laptop from work, or Junior's PC, or... One more reason.. often the dual 10BaseT/100BaseT PC cards fail to auto-detect the correct speed unless they are connected to a hub (in my experience). Not sure exactly why this is... maybe it's a function of the general amount of traffic. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 12:33:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17716 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixcom.mixcom.com (daemon@mixcom.mixcom.com [198.137.186.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17711 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mountin.man@mixcom.com) Received: by mixcom.mixcom.com (8.6.12/2.2) id OAA27483; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:35:21 -0600 Received: from dial193-25.mixcom.com(207.250.193.25) by mixcom.mixcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma027452; Sun Feb 15 14:34:53 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980215142913.0073fe64@198.137.186.100> X-Sender: mmttnn@198.137.186.100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 14:29:13 -0600 To: Archie Cobbs From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Fw: FreeBSD firewall questions Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199802152022.MAA25309@bubba.whistle.com> References: <199802130318.WAA07752@sabre.goldsword.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:22 PM 2/15/98 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: >John T. Farmer writes: >> 4. In almost every instance that one of my client's have installed >> a cross-over cable between two Ethernet devices, they have ended >> up replacing it shortly with a hub. Why? If you have two >> machines wired together, soon there will be a reason to be >> able to connect up the laptop from work, or Junior's PC, or... > >One more reason.. often the dual 10BaseT/100BaseT PC cards fail >to auto-detect the correct speed unless they are connected to a >hub (in my experience). Not sure exactly why this is... maybe it's >a function of the general amount of traffic. I've found the 3C595 requires a reboot for autodetect to change from 10 -> 100 and vice versa. The Intel Pro 100B can do this on the fly from 10 -> 100 or 10 -> 100 duplex and back. This was was with a Intel 3205 switch, so it may have been that they played nicer together, but the 3C595 would not change on the fly with a 3Com switch. This also worked with a cross cable and was the same for FBSD and NT/95 (amazingly). And I expected to reboot. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking mountin.man@mixcom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 12:45:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19687 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19682 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:45:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA23898; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023896; Sun Feb 15 12:43:06 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA25386; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199802152043.MAA25386@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: ipfw rule for permit http access In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980214155709.009eef1c@exsocom.com.mx> from Alejandro Galindo at "Feb 14, 98 09:57:09 am" To: agalindo@servidor.exsocom.com.mx (Alejandro Galindo) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alejandro Galindo writes: > Hi, i installed an ipfirewall with the packet filter (ipfw), i need > permit the conection to my http server, and i have the next rules: > > ipfw add pass tcp from any >1023 to 200.43.1.1 80 > ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any >1023 > > but the external clients cant access to my Web server. Can you indicate me > if the rules are ok? or, what rules can i do? That looks right, except for the syntax. What you want is: ipfw add pass tcp from any 1023-65535 to 200.43.1.1 80 ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any 1023-65535 -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 12:51:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20337 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:51:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20306 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: from speedy.plstn1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.82.47]) by ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA10366; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:51:13 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980215125219.0333a778@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com> X-Sender: ludwigp@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:52:19 -0800 To: Archie Cobbs , agalindo@servidor.exsocom.com.mx (Alejandro Galindo) From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: ipfw rule for permit http access Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199802152043.MAA25386@bubba.whistle.com> References: <1.5.4.32.19980214155709.009eef1c@exsocom.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:43 PM 2/15/98 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: >Alejandro Galindo writes: >> Hi, i installed an ipfirewall with the packet filter (ipfw), i need >> permit the conection to my http server, and i have the next rules: >> >> ipfw add pass tcp from any >1023 to 200.43.1.1 80 >> ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any >1023 >> >> but the external clients cant access to my Web server. Can you indicate me >> if the rules are ok? or, what rules can i do? > >That looks right, except for the syntax. What you want is: > > ipfw add pass tcp from any 1023-65535 to 200.43.1.1 80 > ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any 1023-65535 > >-Archie >___________________________________________________________________________ >Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com actually, it's ipfw add pass tcp from any 1024-65535 to 200.43.1.1 80 ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any 1024-65535 --Ludwig Pummer ------------------------------------------------------------------ ludwigp@bigfoot.com ICQ UIN: 692441 http://chipweb.home.ml.org PGP Key & Geek Code available on web page To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 16:30:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23489 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from davesworld.net (mail.dave-world.net [204.189.73.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23483 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbockman@dave-world.net) Received: from dad.bockman-communications.com [206.25.123.24] by davesworld.net (SMTPD32-4.03) id A87351600EA; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:29:39 CST Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980216002715.0069f020@dave-world.net> X-Sender: kbockman@dave-world.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:27:15 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kevin Subject: Limiting access Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey guys.. I was wondering something.. if it is possible i would like to set it to where i can limit hostmasks per user.. i.e.: blah: .blah.blah.blah.com (no where else) bleh: .bleh-net.net etc etc etc for each user allowing only the specific host for each user, I know you can limit hosts for the whole box but i would like to be more specific and make it per user.. since i do shell accounts any insight appreciated :) thanks kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 18:28:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07403 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:28:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from servidor.exsocom.com.mx (servidor.exsocom.com.mx [200.34.46.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07398 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from agalindo@servidor.exsocom.com.mx) Received: from servidor.exsocom.com.mx (servidor.exsocom.com.mx [200.34.46.130]) by servidor.exsocom.com.mx (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA22850; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:34:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:34:43 -0600 (CST) From: Alejandro Galindo Chairez AGALINDO To: Ludwig Pummer cc: Archie Cobbs , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw rule for permit http access In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980215125219.0333a778@mail.plstn1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you very much for your help Saludos Alejandro ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | , , | | /( )` | | \ \___ / | | | /- _ `-/ ' | | (/\/ \ \ /\ | | ExSoCom Dgo. MEXICO / / | ` \ | | O O ) / | | | `-^--'`< ' | | (_.) _ ) / | | Alejandro Galindo Chairez `.___/` / | | Tel: (18) 179177 `-----' / | | Fax: (18) 179177 <----. __ / __ \ | | <----|====O)))==) \) /==== | | e-mail alejandro.galindo@exsocom.com.mx <----' `--' `.__,' \ | | | | | | http://www.exsocom.com.mx \ / /\| | ______( (_ / \______/ | | ,' ,-----' | | | a FreeBSD user `--{__________) | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Ludwig Pummer wrote: > At 12:43 PM 2/15/98 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: > >Alejandro Galindo writes: > >> Hi, i installed an ipfirewall with the packet filter (ipfw), i need > >> permit the conection to my http server, and i have the next rules: > >> > >> ipfw add pass tcp from any >1023 to 200.43.1.1 80 > >> ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any >1023 > >> > >> but the external clients cant access to my Web server. Can you indicate me > >> if the rules are ok? or, what rules can i do? > > > >That looks right, except for the syntax. What you want is: > > > > ipfw add pass tcp from any 1023-65535 to 200.43.1.1 80 > > ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any 1023-65535 > > > >-Archie > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com > > actually, it's > > ipfw add pass tcp from any 1024-65535 to 200.43.1.1 80 > ipfw add pass tcp from 200.43.1.1 80 to any 1024-65535 > > --Ludwig Pummer > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ludwigp@bigfoot.com ICQ UIN: 692441 http://chipweb.home.ml.org > PGP Key & Geek Code available on web page > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 15 20:00:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19000 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18995 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) id OAA13932 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:00:22 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199802160400.OAA13932@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: proftpd X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:00:21 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone tried out proftpd yet? If so did you solve the bug where the default configuration would not allow users to overwrite their own files despite the fact that the AllowOverwrite flag is set to on? Proftpd looks like a great replacement of wu-ftpd for ISP's who host virtual domains with complex permisson requirements. - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 03:12:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25937 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25860 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09760 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:12:37 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <34E81F25.FE3A9638@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:12:37 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw - specifying ports >1023 & general config Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 2.2.2 / 2.2.5 releases at our site, and the 'ipfw' command to setup firewalls on individual machines to supplment our sites main firewalling router... The question is, at the moment I use commands like: ipfw add allow tcp from any 1023-65534 to my.ip.add.ress 25 ipfw add allow tcp from my.ip.add.ress 25 to any 1023-65534 established Is there any 'cleaner' way of specifying the 'safe' ports range, i.e. ports between 1023 through to 65535? I've seen someone post something about using '>1023', but I couldn't get this to work (even after escaping it to stop the shell from redirecting it's output to a file called 1023 ;-) At the moment it's not too bad, as the firewall is setup by a script that uses shell variables, e.g. "1023-65534" becomes $SAFE, thus: $FW add allow tcp from any $SAFE to $MY_IP $SMTP $FW add allow tcp from $MY_IP $SMTP to any $SAFE established Which makes it a lot more readable... Any comments? - any suggestions on how I can stop the unavoidable 'human error' factor of being able to do something like: $FWi add allow tcp from any $FAFE to $MY_IP $SNTP (where the shell won't complain about not being able to find $FWi or $FAFE etc. - and it's easy to miss the error in the firewall output as it spins past). I've seen some 'firewall' languages and stuff put about - but I didn't really want anything _that_ complex, just something that would catch typos... Thanks for any info, Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 05:31:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25028 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 05:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from onyx.atipa.com (user20572@ns.atipa.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25019 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 05:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1018); 16 Feb 1998 13:39:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:39:08 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa X-Sender: freebsd@dot.ishiboo.com To: Brian Somers cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Userland PPP won't kill itself after hangup In-Reply-To: <199802062125.VAA25715@awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am using iijppp on our terminal server (2.2.5-RELEASE), some ports with and others w/o PAP authentication. Everything works flawlessly up to the point of a disconnection. When the "client" (I know it is really a "peer") hangs up, the ppp -direct process won't die, so getty dosen't respwan and the modem won't answer. If I manually kill the ppp process and -HUP init, everything goes back to "normal". I have used several different gettys (normal, the PAPped version from -current, a different PAPped version from ftp.sol.net, and mgetty-1.0.0), and they all have the same result. I am thinking it may be a permission problem, since the ppp process itself runs UID 0. The user could not kill the old ppp even if they wanted to. (But the process should kill itself w/o intervention...) I did make a ppp.linkdown script, but it does not get executed. I get the same results w/ and w/o lqr reporting. The peer platforms makes no difference (Win95, FreeBSD, NT, etc). You can cause the problem by simply unplugging the line on an active modem, and replugging it in a few seconds later. PPP is still there! I do have some serial weirdness, since I have ttydX's in my /etc/ttys, and run "ppp -direct /dev/cuaaX" from my PPP login shell, but this worked fine w/ the my old setup (2.1.7). Do I even need -direct, or will the implied stdout do the same? Thanks for any help, Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 10:16:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04280 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sommer.dyn.ml.org (home@Modem042-Mankato.lakes.com [209.32.34.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04206; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from child@prairie.lakes.com) Received: from child (Child@child [192.168.0.1]) by sommer.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25918; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:18:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from child@prairie.lakes.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980216121833.0075afa0@192.168.0.10> X-Sender: child@192.168.0.10 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:18:33 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Child Subject: virtual domains Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear allI have setup a number of virtual domains on my system I have chroot'd ftp access so all users see is /data /cgi-bin /icons but need telnet access to perfrom tasks with setting up cgi scripts etc ect and when telneting in get access to view the whole system? anyway to stop this? JS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 11:23:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29579 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:23:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29517 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA02072; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:22:39 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199802161922.TAA02072@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Atipa cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Userland PPP won't kill itself after hangup In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:39:08 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:22:38 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi, > > I am using iijppp on our terminal server (2.2.5-RELEASE), some ports with > and others w/o PAP authentication. Everything works flawlessly up to the > point of a disconnection. When the "client" (I know it is really a "peer") > hangs up, the ppp -direct process won't die, so getty dosen't respwan and > the modem won't answer. If I manually kill the ppp process and -HUP init, > everything goes back to "normal". [.....] Hi, Unfortunately, the 2.2.5 release has a broken ppp :-( It's fixed in RELENG_2_2, -current and on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~brian. Give any of those a bash and your problems should go away :-) > Thanks for any help, > Kevin -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 11:25:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00492 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.shvetc.zp.ua (home.shvetc.zp.ua [193.193.219.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00262 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugene@shvetc.zp.ua) Received: from eugene.shvetc.zp.ua (eugene.shvetc.zp.ua [193.193.219.187]) by home.shvetc.zp.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03452 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:21:48 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from eugene@shvetc.zp.ua) Message-ID: <002b01bd3b10$20cc0900$bbdbc1c1@eugene.shvetc.zp.ua> From: "Eugene Shvetc" To: Subject: Dialup accounting system Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:21:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where i can find accounting system for dialin users...? --- Eugene Shvetc MARKA ISP Zaporozhye, Ukraine eugene@shvetc.zp.ua Tel, fax: +380 612 120186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 11:42:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05731 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (dbabler@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05611 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com) Received: from localhost (dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02331 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: David Babler To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPP/Routing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm cross-posting to this list from the original query on questions... Heeeeeeeeeellppp. I seem to be missing something fundamental in the routing setup here. I'm running 2.2-STABLE and just added IIJPPP for a customer. He has a static IP, x.x.x.252. The overall network is: ISP <-> FRAD <-+-> Rigel <--> customer .1 | .9 .252 | |<-> BBS <--> dynamic dialups | .2 .128... |<-> Test .7 When the user establishes contact, using Win95 DUNS and running the personal web server software, I can ping his address okay from this machine (Rigel) and from the Test machine (.7, which uses .1 as its gateway). I can access his web site from Rigel and the Test machine. The problem is that dialup users on the BBS server can't access .252 at all - they get a timeout. I'm running routed and am the authorative DNS for this domain and the gateway option is activated. ---- The ppp.conf entry is: default: set Log phase lcp chat set timeout 0 disable lqr deny lqr enable msext set login set ns 205.148.224.9 199.190.65.3 papcuaa0: enable pap enable proxy ---- ---- the ppp.secret entry is: user 205.148.224.252 ---- the ppp.linkup entry is: papcuaa0: add 0 0 HISADDR ---- With him connected, netstat -r shows: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default frad UGSc 45 12004 ie0 localhost localhost UH 12 102117 lo0 205.148.224 link#2 UC 0 0 frad 0:a0:eb:0:4:59 UHLW 43 4 ie0 1066 orionsys.com 2:0:0:0:41:0 UHLW 3 386325 ie0 135 rigel localhost UH 2 360534 lo0 IP-137 2:0:0:0:41:0 UHLW 0 8 ie0 350 IP-138 2:0:0:0:41:0 UHLW 0 193 ie0 601 IP-139 2:0:0:0:41:0 UHLW 0 4 ie0 710 tnet rigel UH 1 977 tun0 tnet 0:aa:0:36:67:74 UHLS2 0 0 ie0 And arp -a shows: frad.orionsys.com (205.148.224.1) at 0:a0:eb:0:4:59 orionsys.com (205.148.224.2) at 2:0:0:0:41:0 IP-137.ORIONSYS.COM (205.148.224.137) at 2:0:0:0:41:0 IP-138.ORIONSYS.COM (205.148.224.138) at 2:0:0:0:41:0 IP-139.ORIONSYS.COM (205.148.224.139) at 2:0:0:0:41:0 tnet.orionsys.com (205.148.224.252) at 0:aa:0:36:67:74 permanent published (proxy only) And ifconfig -a is: lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ie0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 ether 00:aa:00:36:67:74 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 205.148.224.9 --> 205.148.224.252 netmask 0xffffff00 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 The "IP-xxx" entries are dynamic IP PPP dialups from the BBS server. Is the netmask for 205.148.224.9 -> 205.148.224.252 right, or should it be 0xffffffff? I initially was running named with the '-q' option - I later killed it and restarted it with the '-s' option (which one _is_ appropriate here?). Or should I be running gated instead? Any pointer in the right direction would be appreciated. I do have the "crab" book but I'm obviously not reading it right here. -Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 11:53:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08810 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:53:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.triax.com (smtp.triax.com [206.58.96.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08701 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@triax.com) Received: from admin.triax.com (jim.triax.com [206.58.99.205]) by smtp.triax.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA27106 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:52:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802161952.LAA27106@smtp.triax.com> X-Sender: jmock@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:53:25 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim Mock Subject: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone set these horrid things up on a FreeBSD box running Apache 1.2.5? Here's my situation.. we're putting up a new webserver running FreeBSD, and we don't have any user accounts/directories copied to it yet. What I'd like to do is install the extensions on /home so when we add users they can have the extensions enable. Microsoft's "excellent" documentation says nothing and from what I can gather, the user's directories already need to be there in order to do it. I may be wrong, and actually hope that I am.. it'd make my life alot easier :) Any info anybody could give me about it would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Jim Mock +======================================+ Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR USA e-Mail: jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com WWW: http://www.triax.com/ Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 +======================================+ 640KB should be enough for everybody. - Bill Gates, 1982 +======================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 12:06:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12018 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:06:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.inc.net (mail.inc.net [207.67.10.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11884 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:06:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam2@netsonic.com) Message-Id: <199802162006.MAA11884@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from g103w1 ([207.170.35.70]) by mail.inc.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-35056U510L100S0) with SMTP id AAA10517; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:21:14 -0600 X-Sender: adam2@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:06:00 -0600 To: Jim Mock From: adam2 Subject: Re: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199802161952.LAA27106@smtp.triax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:53 AM 2/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone set these horrid things up on a FreeBSD box running Apache >1.2.5? Here's my situation.. we're putting up a new webserver running >FreeBSD, and we don't have any user accounts/directories copied to it yet. >What I'd like to do is install the extensions on /home so when we add users >they can have the extensions enable. After the user is added and the conf added to httpd.conf What we have done is run the fpsrvadm.exe program and install the extensions to the particular virtual or vanity domain name. We have also done this to an ip address. It seems to me, that they certainly should have a user dir that is referenced by httpd.conf for the particular domain where it throws the extensions..??.. I dont know if i helped here but hope so. Adam Microsoft's "excellent" documentation >says nothing and from what I can gather, the user's directories already >need to be there in order to do it. I may be wrong, and actually hope that >I am.. it'd make my life alot easier :) > >Any info anybody could give me about it would be GREATLY appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jim Mock > >+======================================+ > Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster > Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR USA > e-Mail: jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com > WWW: http://www.triax.com/ > Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 >+======================================+ > 640KB should be enough for everybody. > - Bill Gates, 1982 >+======================================+ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 12:09:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13172 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12968 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.41]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA205; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:06:52 +0100 Message-ID: <34E89C92.A8BE2F37@pipeline.ch> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:07:46 +0100 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Mock CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD References: <199802161952.LAA27106@smtp.triax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Mock wrote: -snip- > Any info anybody could give me about it would be GREATLY appreciated. Take a look at the FP98-Apache Port in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz and -diff -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 16 15:28:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04627 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:28:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04189; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:27:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23881; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:15:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:15:52 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Child cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: virtual domains In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980216121833.0075afa0@192.168.0.10> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Child wrote: > Dear allI have setup a number of virtual domains on my system > I have chroot'd ftp access > so all users see is > /data > /cgi-bin > /icons > but need telnet access to perfrom tasks with setting up cgi scripts etc ect > and when telneting in get access to view the whole system? > anyway to stop this? Copy all the necessary files from /bin /usr/bin /usr/lib /usr/libexec /etc /usr/share, etc into /chroot/.... Then use --------- #!/bin/sh cd /chroot chroot . /usr/libexec/telnetd -------- This will put all of your customers into a single jail, whereas ftp puts them into a jail each. To put each customer into a telnetd jail each, you'll need to read up on chroot(2) and getsockname(2). Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 04:10:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11499 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:10:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11425; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:10:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28746; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:13:26 -0300 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:13:26 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TX motherborad In-Reply-To: <19980212091951.58098@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wed, 11 February 1998 at 11:59:31 -0300, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > > > I try to install FreeBSD 2.2.5 in a new motherboard whith TX chipset. > > You sent this to FreeBSD-isp. I think -questions is a better address, > so I'm following up there. > I'm sending this mesage to -isp to replay other mesages, ok? > > This kernel not found sio0 and sio1. Are there any solution? > > There seems to be a problem in this area. In all probability it's not > the TX chipset. Do this: > > 1. Reboot the machine. When booting, enter the configuration editor > and change the flags for sio0 and sio1 to 0x80 (they're normally > 0x0). Report the probe messages (you can get them again with > dmesg). You should get something like: > > Feb 3 16:05:05 freebie /kernel: sio0: probe test 5 failed > Feb 3 16:05:05 freebie /kernel: sio0: probe test 8 failed > Feb 3 16:05:05 freebie /kernel: sio1: probe test 5 failed > Feb 3 16:05:05 freebie /kernel: sio1: probe test 8 failed > I'm now using a ISA card whith 2 serial ports, it's working fine. When I enable sio2 in 0x3e8 and irq 4 (setup comA is 0x3e8 and irq 4) I get this: /kernel: sio2: probe test 1 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 2 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 3 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 4 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 5 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 6 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 7 filed /kernel: sio2: probe test 8 filed whith sio0 and sio1 disabled in kernel. But whithout ISA card I get only "teste 5" and "teste 8" failed. > 2. Tell me *exactly* what kind of motherboard you have. If you can > also tell me the super I/O chip part number, that would help. In > case of doubt, tell me the numbers of all the support chips. > My part number is: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Award Modular Bios v4.51PG TX Pentium System Bios.Ver.TX3-3 9/2/1997 09/01/97-i430TX-ALi5135-2A591SE2C-00 --------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm using FreeBSD-Stable. (23/01/1998) (DD/MM/YY) > Greg > Thanks, Paulo. " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 04:17:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13103 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:17:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (root@ns2.cetlink.net [209.54.54.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13024; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jak@cetlink.net) Received: from ts2-cltnc-80.cetlink.net (ts2-cltnc-80.cetlink.net [209.54.58.80]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20769; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:16:14 -0500 (EST) From: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD as router, terminal server Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <34e98ccb.899122@mail.cetlink.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA13034 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:13:55 -0800 (PST), Doug White wrote: >On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Gary Dunn wrote: > >> I am developing alternatives for an ISP start-up. A typical ISP involves >> a unix server, a router, and a terminal server. It seems to me that a >> reasonably fast Pentium should be able to perform the routing and >> terminal service, at least in the early stages of growth. >> >> Am I over-estimating performance? > >You'll outgrow that pretty quickly, servicing serial ports can eat CPU >significantly. Anybody have experience with Comrtol Rocketport multiport serial adapters and how many ports they can run on one box? -- The day of the proprietary OS is over. Long live free software. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 07:29:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11117 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.castlenet.com (ns1.castlenet.com [209.63.23.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10979; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:28:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from efinley@castlenet.com) Received: from ip65.castlenet.com (ip65.castlenet.com [209.63.23.65]) by ns1.castlenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA25860; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:35:29 GMT From: efinley@castlenet.com (Elliot Finley) To: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) Cc: Doug White , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD as router, terminal server Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:33:51 GMT Organization: Hiawatha Coal Company Reply-To: efinley@castlenet.com Message-ID: <34e9ace2.28109794@castlenet.com> References: <34e98ccb.899122@mail.cetlink.net> In-Reply-To: <34e98ccb.899122@mail.cetlink.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA11001 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:16:43 GMT, you wrote: >On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:13:55 -0800 (PST), Doug White > wrote: > >>On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Gary Dunn wrote: >> >>> I am developing alternatives for an ISP start-up. A typical ISP involves >>> a unix server, a router, and a terminal server. It seems to me that a >>> reasonably fast Pentium should be able to perform the routing and >>> terminal service, at least in the early stages of growth. >>> >>> Am I over-estimating performance? >> >>You'll outgrow that pretty quickly, servicing serial ports can eat CPU >>significantly. > >Anybody have experience with Comrtol Rocketport multiport serial >adapters and how many ports they can run on one box? I have two 32 port ISA boards in my FreeBSD box... Right now only the first 32 ports work... When I called Comtrol, they got someone right on it... They tweaked the driver, and now there is a new Beta version up on their ftp sight that should allow up to 128 ports in one box... Haven't had the time to check it out yet though. -- Later Science (efinley@castlenet.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 08:43:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23307 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dodgecity.hpi.net (root@hpi.net [209.12.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23296 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zac@hpi.net) Received: from pointzero.hpi.net (pointzero.hpi.net [209.12.9.250]) by dodgecity.hpi.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA14131 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:46:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <000901bd3bc3$4d870e00$fa090cd1@pointzero.hpi.net> Reply-To: "Zachary Maas" From: "Zachary Maas" To: Subject: quick questions Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:44:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just have a couple of quick and probably easy questions :) I am wondering if there is software out there that is free of charge that will allow us todo 'pop' only email accounts? ie. no entry to /etc/passwd and no home directory created, etc. Also is there a good web based package that allows people to retrieve their email via a website? Thanks for your time! Zachary Maas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 13:22:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23874 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:22:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23818; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:22:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04216; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:21:08 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:21:08 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: John Kelly cc: Doug White , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD as router, terminal server In-Reply-To: <34e98ccb.899122@mail.cetlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, John Kelly wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:13:55 -0800 (PST), Doug White > wrote: > > >On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Gary Dunn wrote: > > > >> I am developing alternatives for an ISP start-up. A typical ISP involves > >> a unix server, a router, and a terminal server. It seems to me that a > >> reasonably fast Pentium should be able to perform the routing and > >> terminal service, at least in the early stages of growth. > >> > >> Am I over-estimating performance? > > > >You'll outgrow that pretty quickly, servicing serial ports can eat CPU > >significantly. > > Anybody have experience with Comrtol Rocketport multiport serial > adapters and how many ports they can run on one box? Comtrol is interruptless, so you should be able to put 64 or 128 in a box. However, there is a big difference between using kernel pppd and userland ppp. The latter eats CPU, the former is much better because of the fewer context switches. I have 30 pppd lines on a 486-100, and it is happy. I use cyclades and AST/4 port cards. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 14:03:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00468 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:03:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from diabolik.logic.it (diabolik.logic.it [195.120.151.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00437 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from molter@logic.it) Received: (qmail 20199 invoked from network); 17 Feb 1998 21:54:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dumbwinter.logic.it) (195.120.151.135) by diabolik.logic.it with SMTP; 17 Feb 1998 21:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 474 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Feb 1998 21:51:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:51:53 +0100 (MET) From: Marco Molteni To: Zachary Maas cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quick questions In-Reply-To: <000901bd3bc3$4d870e00$fa090cd1@pointzero.hpi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Zachary Maas wrote: > I am wondering if there is software out there that is free of charge that > will allow us todo 'pop' only email accounts? ie. no entry to /etc/passwd > and no home directory created, etc. A possibility is qmail + vqpop (www.qmail.org) Marco --- Il mondo e' bello perche' e' Bacio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 14:55:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10311 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:55:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alushta.NL.net (alushta.NL.net [193.78.240.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10165 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan@jak.nl) Received: from jaknl by alushta.NL.net with UUCP id <28727-6317>; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:54:06 +0100 Received: from jak.nl ([192.168.0.200]) by jak.nl (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA01396 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:33:19 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34EA1032.1081B721@jak.nl> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:33:22 +0100 From: Jan A Knepper X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: UUCP over ISDN Terminal Adapter. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Here a question may been seen 1E6 times already... We have a FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE running for our e-mail exchange. Formally we exchanged via dial up and UUCP at 28K8 or may be even 36K6 with normal modem at COM3. However we changed to a ISDN terminal adapter as COM2. With this we can drive the speed up to 56K6 and even 115K2 does not seem to be a problem. *** EXCEPT *** When the system starts to duplex. In other words *sending* and *receiving* at the same time we get in the "Log" 1. ERROR: Got hangup signal [or] 2. ERROR: Timed out in chat script [or] 3. ERROR: Timed out while waiting for packet We get 1 most of the time, 3 almost as much and 2 sometimes. The only thing that sometimes seems to resolve the problem is change the port speed to 19K2 or even 9600 and try again. When there is no duplexing there does not seem to be a problem. Any ideas? Someone familiar with the problem? Have fun! Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 16:47:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02438 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.triax.com (smtp.triax.com [206.58.96.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02382 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@triax.com) Received: from admin.triax.com (jim.triax.com [206.58.99.205]) by smtp.triax.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA08034; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:47:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802180047.QAA08034@smtp.triax.com> X-Sender: jmock@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:48:06 -0800 To: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34E89C92.A8BE2F37@pipeline.ch> References: <199802161952.LAA27106@smtp.triax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:07 PM 2/16/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Take a look at the FP98-Apache Port in > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz and -diff > >-- >Andre Oppermann > >CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer >Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) >Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland >Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 >http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Is it just me or is that file not there? If it is, I must've missed it. I just got off of apache's ftp site too and couldn't find anything there either. If somebody has it and can up it to the incoming dir on the FreeBSD site.. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.. Jim +======================================+ Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR USA e-Mail: jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com WWW: http://www.triax.com/ Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 +======================================+ 640KB should be enough for everybody. - Bill Gates, 1982 +======================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 17:41:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15271 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.creative.net.au (mail.creative.net.au [203.56.168.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15122 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@mail.creative.net.au) Received: from mail.creative.net.au (localhost.creative.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by mail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA18388; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:11:49 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199802180111.JAA18388@mail.creative.net.au> To: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD radiusified pppd.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:11:54 +0100." <34EA0B2A.5D50E88B@pipeline.ch> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:11:48 +0800 From: Adrian Chadd Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "IBS / Andre Oppermann" writes: >Adrian Chadd wrote: >> >> I'll tar it up, cut some of the custom code out and get it out for FTP >> by Monday. > >Is it already somewhere on an FTP server? > >> Sheesh, I didn't think the demand was so high for something like this.. :) Nearly. I've had to resort to an older version because my previous employer won't let me release it to the public. I'm incorporating the Framed-Route support now, I'll have it up for FTP by sometime today. Adrian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 19:22:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02858 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns2.cetlink.net (root@ns2.cetlink.net [209.54.54.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02777 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jak@cetlink.net) Received: from ts1-cltnc-37.cetlink.net (ts1-cltnc-37.cetlink.net [209.54.58.37]) by ns2.cetlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA09710; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:20:58 -0500 (EST) From: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) To: Adrian Chadd Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD radiusified pppd.. Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:21:27 GMT Message-ID: <34ec60c4.15465616@mail.cetlink.net> References: <199802180111.JAA18388@mail.creative.net.au> In-Reply-To: <199802180111.JAA18388@mail.creative.net.au> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA02801 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:11:48 +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: >I've had to resort to an older version because my previous employer won't let >me release it to the public. I'm incorporating the Framed-Route support now, >I'll have it up for FTP by sometime today. Pardon my arriving late to this discussion ... but I need more info about RADIUS on FreeBSD. I read Livingston's web page and they said RADIUS software was available in source form and free to Livingston customers. Which RADIUS implementation are you using, Livingstons's or some other? -- The day of the proprietary OS is over. Long live free software. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 20:15:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11156 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from onyx.atipa.com (user22546@ns.atipa.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA11083 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:14:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1018); 18 Feb 1998 04:22:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:22:44 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa X-Sender: freebsd@dot.ishiboo.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to set speed on chat/expect script? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am using getty std.115200 on our terminal server. In order to get our modems to talk to getty correctly, I need to issue "at&b1". This tells the modem (USR Courier) to fix its serial rate with the tty. If I do this manually with: # cu -l /dev/cuaaX -s 115200 It works perfectly (since cu talks to the port at 115200). I then made a chat script to reset and initailze modems, and ran it like this: # chat -f reset.script < /dev/cuaaX > /dev/cuaaX And it looks like it works fine. However, since the "chat" command is run at 9600 baud (I think; that is what stty says), the modem locks in at 9600 and freezes when getty talks to it at 115200. I tried doing a "stty 115200" before the script, but it did not help. Anyone know how to get around this, or anyone have a working script to reset a modem at a fixed serial rate? I was thinking of doing an tcl/expect script using cu/tip, but that sounds a little too ugly unless I have to. Thanks, Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 20:19:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11971 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.boisfrancs.qc.ca (mail.boisfrancs.qc.ca [207.253.52.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11897; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:19:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xenub@boisfrancs.qc.ca) Received: from gateway (ppp113.boisfrancs.qc.ca [207.253.52.113]) by mail.boisfrancs.qc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA05341; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:19:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802180419.XAA05341@mail.boisfrancs.qc.ca> X-Sender: xenub@boisfrancs.qc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:19:50 -0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Louis-Philippe Alain Subject: Books on security Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to have some suggestions for books about Network Security, how to secure an Internet Server, etc... Thanks for your suggestions as I'm sure there will be good! :) Louis-Philippe Alain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 17 21:07:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18784 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18753; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:06:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mgraffam@mhv.net) From: mgraffam@mhv.net Received: from localhost (phundie@port102.mhv.net [206.229.41.30]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09275; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:06:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:00:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: phundie@localhost To: Louis-Philippe Alain cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security In-Reply-To: <199802180419.XAA05341@mail.boisfrancs.qc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Louis-Philippe Alain wrote: > Hi, > I would like to have some suggestions for books about Network Security, > how to secure an Internet Server, etc... > Hmm, well my first suggestion would be to read "Practical UNIX and Internet Security" by Garfinkel and Spafford. After that, there is a book called "Internet Security" (forget the author's name, and I don't have my copy around, sorry). Reading these books won't do much good though unless you follow up for you specific system. That is, read the CERT warnings, read through the 8lgm archives, check out www.rootshell.com etc. Before I install any piece of software on my system, I search these archives looking for trouble spots. Generally speaking, as far as running network daemons .. if you don't need it, get rid of it. If you do need it, firewall the ports against all hosts that don't need to access it. Remember that the deny and allow files are for tcpd only, if the process runs outside of tcpd it is vunerable. As an illustration.. I run lpd and other stuff on my machine that connects to the internet. All such services need to run in order for my other machines to be able to print, and get the drives via NFS and such. Even though /etc/hosts.equiv has no entry in it from off my network, I have its port blocked to the internet. No one off my net could print as it stands, but I don't even allow them to connect. And if one day some host in peru does need to print on my system, all I need to do is to put one new ip firewalling rule in place. No big deal. Of course, I run S/key, Ssh and a tripwire too .. but I am in a hostile environment.. you may not need to protect against passive eavesdropping, or you may not need encrypted sessions, but for the minimum of resources that they require, compared to their advantages, I don't see a reason not to run them, myself. Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net) http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc "Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe the more often and steadily we reflect upon them: the starry heavens above and the moral law within me. I do not seek or conjecture either of them as if they were veiled obscurities or extravagances beyond the horizon of my vision; I see them before me and connect them immediately with the consciousness of my existence." - Immanuel Kant "Critique of Practical Reason" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 00:04:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12153 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12146 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05912; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:03:54 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:03:54 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Adrian Chadd cc: IBS / Andre Oppermann , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD radiusified pppd.. In-Reply-To: <199802180111.JAA18388@mail.creative.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'll have it up for FTP by sometime today. Let me know. I'll get your stuff merged with ours, and commit it. Framed-Route sounds good; I use gated myself. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 01:02:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18223 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:02:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18149 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.41]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA88; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:42:14 +0100 Message-ID: <34EA9F25.DD78EA0B@pipeline.ch> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:43:17 +0100 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Mock CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD References: <199802161952.LAA27106@smtp.triax.com> <199802180047.QAA08034@smtp.triax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Mock wrote: > > At 09:07 PM 2/16/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >Take a look at the FP98-Apache Port in > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz and -diff -snip- > Is it just me or is that file not there? If it is, I must've missed it. I > just got off of apache's ftp site too and couldn't find anything there > either. If somebody has it and can up it to the incoming dir on the > FreeBSD site.. I'd appreciate it. Jordan (jhk) has moved it to development/ports as a "pending port". -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 04:29:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22490 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.creative.net.au (mail.creative.net.au [203.56.168.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22428 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@mail.creative.net.au) Received: from mail.creative.net.au (localhost.creative.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by mail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00487; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:29:16 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199802181229.UAA00487@mail.creative.net.au> To: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD radiusified pppd.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:21:27 GMT." <34ec60c4.15465616@mail.cetlink.net> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:29:15 +0800 From: Adrian Chadd Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Kelly writes: >On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:11:48 +0800, Adrian Chadd > wrote: > >>I've had to resort to an older version because my previous employer won't let >>me release it to the public. I'm incorporating the Framed-Route support now, >>I'll have it up for FTP by sometime today. > >Pardon my arriving late to this discussion ... but I need more info >about RADIUS on FreeBSD. I read Livingston's web page and they said >RADIUS software was available in source form and free to Livingston >customers. > >Which RADIUS implementation are you using, Livingstons's or some >other? I'm using Livingston's *and* Merit's radiusd. They both work just as well, as I didn't write any Radius 2 specific things in (eg menu's) as for this application they aren't needed. Yes, livingston's radiusd is avaliable for free for livingston customers only. Merit's radiusd (and many others) are avaliable free regardless. 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Form 2-17 PLAZA--ND ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 06:55:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21893 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:55:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.jmrodgers.com ([205.247.224.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21852 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:55:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meuston@jmrodgers.com) Received: from max.jmrodgers.com (max.jmrodgers.com [205.247.224.209]) by mail.jmrodgers.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07359 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:01:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from meuston@jmrodgers.com) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:49:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD3C52.809B7B20.meuston@jmrodgers.com> From: Max Euston To: "'FreeBSD ISP'" Subject: RE: Damn spam(tm) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:49:25 -0500 Organization: J.M. Rodgers Co., Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, February 18, 1998 7:35 AM, Adrian Chadd [SMTP:adrian@creative.net.au] wrote: > > This sucks. > I post to the freebsd-isp list from my main emai laccount.. this is the first > bit of spam I've ever had from it. > > Can someone (postmaster? :) Take a look at the Apparently-To: 's and see if > they're all on the freebsd-isp list? > > *grumble* > > Adrian > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de > Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by mail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id RAA00282 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:45:31 +0800 (WST) > Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by public.uni-hamburg.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) > id AA07254; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:39:44 +0100 > Message-Id: <9802180939.AA07254@public.uni-hamburg.de> > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > From: 1056_@public.uni-hamburg.de > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > Subject: HOW YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! > X-Mailer: Emailer Platinum (tm) by Internet Marketing Inc. > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > [snip] I got the same thing, but with a different list: ----- Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by mail.jmrodgers.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA06246 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 05:31:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de) Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by public.uni-hamburg.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA52166; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:22:07 +0100 Message-Id: <9802181022.AA52166@public.uni-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:31:42 PST From: 1632_@public.uni-hamburg.de Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:31:42 PST Subject: HOW YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! X-Mailer: Emailer Platinum (tm) by Internet Marketing Inc. Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: <887345169@smoke.marlboro.vt.us> Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Apparently-To: [snip] Hope this helps. Max ----- Max Euston Sysadm, Programmer, etc... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 07:48:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29788 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29773; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 07:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) Received: from localhost (zoonie@localhost) by nak.myhouse.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA14017; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:47:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nak.myhouse.com: zoonie owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: Adrian Chadd cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Damn spam(tm) In-Reply-To: <199802181234.UAA00551@mail.creative.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i got the same message also...i see a few email addresses below that i have seen posting to the list..... On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > This sucks. > I post to the freebsd-isp list from my main emai laccount.. this is the first > bit of spam I've ever had from it. > > Can someone (postmaster? :) Take a look at the Apparently-To: 's and see if > they're all on the freebsd-isp list? > > *grumble* > > Adrian > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de > Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by mail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id RAA00282 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:45:31 +0800 (WST) > Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by public.uni-hamburg.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) > id AA07254; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:39:44 +0100 > Message-Id: <9802180939.AA07254@public.uni-hamburg.de> > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > From: 1056_@public.uni-hamburg.de > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > Subject: HOW YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! > X-Mailer: Emailer Platinum (tm) by Internet Marketing Inc. > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > Apparently-To: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 09:22:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18368 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.triax.com (smtp.triax.com [206.58.96.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18301 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:22:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@triax.com) Received: from admin.triax.com (jim.triax.com [206.58.99.205]) by smtp.triax.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA14220; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:21:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802181721.JAA14220@smtp.triax.com> X-Sender: jmock@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:23:07 -0800 To: Adrian Chadd From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: Damn spam(tm) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199802181234.UAA00551@mail.creative.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:34 PM 2/18/98 +0800, you wrote: > >This sucks. >I post to the freebsd-isp list from my main emai laccount.. this is the first >bit of spam I've ever had from it. > >Can someone (postmaster? :) Take a look at the Apparently-To: 's and see if >they're all on the freebsd-isp list? > >*grumble* > >Adrian > >------- Forwarded Message > >Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de >Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by mail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id RAA00282 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:45:31 +0800 (WST) >Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by public.uni-hamburg.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) > id AA07254; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:39:44 +0100 >Message-Id: <9802180939.AA07254@public.uni-hamburg.de> >Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST >From: 1056_@public.uni-hamburg.de >Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST >Subject: HOW YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! >X-Mailer: Emailer Platinum (tm) by Internet Marketing Inc. >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: >Apparently-To: [snip] Yep I got it too.. and lookie here.. there's my email address. First one I've ever got from posting to this list too. Hope somethin can be done about this.. I get enough garbage as is :( Jim +======================================+ Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR USA e-Mail: jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com WWW: http://www.triax.com/ Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 +======================================+ 640KB should be enough for everybody. - Bill Gates, 1982 +======================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 11:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09947 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09824; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:01:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@devnull.ruhr.de) Received: (from admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5) with UUCP id TAA19269; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:42:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from rm.devnull.ruhr.de [192.168.22.75] by devnull.ruhr.de with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0y573u-0000NR-00; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:49:10 +0100 Received: from bs by rm.devnull.ruhr.de with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0y579U-0000CY-00; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:54:56 +0100 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benedikt Stockebrand Date: 18 Feb 1998 11:54:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: mgraffam@mhv.net's message of "Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:00:24 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: <873ehh41z3.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Lines: 61 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mgraffam@mhv.net writes: > Hmm, well my first suggestion would be to read "Practical UNIX and > Internet Security" by Garfinkel and Spafford. After that, there is a > book called "Internet Security" (forget the author's name, and I don't > have my copy around, sorry). Reading these books won't do much good though > unless you follow up for you specific system. That is, read the CERT > warnings, read through the 8lgm archives, check out www.rootshell.com > etc. Before I install any piece of software on my system, I search these > archives looking for trouble spots. Plus: Chapman/Zwicky: Building Internet Firewalls O'Reilly & Assoc. Interesting mailing lists: bugtraq@netspace.org best-of-security@cyber.com.au firewalls@greatcircle.com (You'll probably find the details how to subscribe on their web servers.) FTP servers: ftp.cert.org Some assorted RFC mirror > I run lpd and other stuff on my machine that connects to the internet. > All such services need to run in order for my other machines to be > able to print, and get the drives via NFS and such. Even though > /etc/hosts.equiv has no entry in it from off my network, I have its > port blocked to the internet. No one off my net could print as it stands, > but I don't even allow them to connect. > > And if one day some host in peru does need to print on my system, all > I need to do is to put one new ip firewalling rule in place. No big > deal. Actually, that can be a "big deal" if IP spoofing is a serious problem. Using an old 386 as packet filter can save attacks from some outside, but punching holes for specific IP addresses can be dangerous. That tcpwrapper stuff is nice if you can trust source IP addresses and/or want to improve host security, but to protect a whole network against attacks from outside you better use a packet filter. If you need some virtual network with some machines in Peru you probably should consider using some crypto tunnel. > Of course, I run S/key, Ssh and a tripwire too .. but I am in a hostile > environment.. you may not need to protect against passive eavesdropping, > or you may not need encrypted sessions, but for the minimum of resources > that they require, compared to their advantages, I don't see a reason not > to run them, myself. S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand --- Un*x system administrator looking for a job To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 11:35:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20710 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:35:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20621; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13828; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:34:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:34:40 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Benedikt Stockebrand cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security In-Reply-To: <873ehh41z3.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18 Feb 1998, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote: > S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better > choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it > allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. If you enable that option :) All my installs of SSH don't allow root logins. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 11:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24043 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rif.hoosierlink.net (rif.hoosierlink.net [208.154.69.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23896 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rif@rif.hoosierlink.net) Received: from localhost (rif@localhost) by rif.hoosierlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA24126 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:45:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:45:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sendmail rule Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a customer whom uses UUCP through us, and he was wanting to know if I could bounce back any messages coming from his domain address to his domain, going through the UUCP link. IE, his people should address internal mail to a local agent instead of the UUCP agent. So, basically I am after a sendmail rule which will return a message if say it is from someone@foo.com address to someoneelse@foo.com. Does anyone have a rule such as that, or suggestions? Besides suggesting he hold a meeting and tell his people how to use their mail software :) I am not sure if this message is completely appropriate for this list, but believe this is where it should go as other ISPs may have ran into this before. Jim --- Jim Riffle rif@hoosierlink.net HoosierLink & KC Online Network/Systems Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 11:47:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24396 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:47:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24247 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.41]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA324 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:45:39 +0100 Message-ID: <34EB3A64.100C8763@pipeline.ch> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:45:40 +0100 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Proxy-Server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For a HTTP and FTP proxy server for 1000 more or less simultanious users: - PPro-200, 128MB RAM - 3GB System Disk - 2x8GB UW-SCSI striped with ccd, what ccd settings do you recommend? - Adaptec 2940UW - 100Mbit fxp card - FreeBSD 2.2.5(6)-STABLE, kernel tuning? (memmax up to 128) - Squid cache Please comment from your experience. Thanks -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 12:07:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29573 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from CTNet2.createtech.com (CTNet2.createtech.com [209.48.208.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29478 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kim@createtech.com) Received: (from smtp@localhost) by CTNet2.createtech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA25054 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:40:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from x56.createtech.com(209.48.208.56), claiming to be "createtech.com" via SMTP by pop.createtech.com, id smtpd025049; Wed Feb 18 13:40:37 1998 Message-ID: <34EB38BF.5B90000E@createtech.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:38:39 -0600 From: Kim Shrier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Electronic commerce software for FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My company is going to start offering electronic commerce hosting to our clients. Unfortunately, all the "recommendations" coming from upper management either only run on NT or run on NT, Solaris, HPUX, etc.. Does anybody have any recommendations for software that runs on FreeBSD that supports shopping carts, product catalogs, store administration, reporting, and credit card capture with an interface to Cybercash or some other system. In other words, I am looking for a complete solution since I don't have the luxury of putting together a system that requires me to glue together different parts with perl scripts (even though that is what I would be willing to do). Thanks -- Kim Shrier - kim@createtech.com Director of Development - CreateTech, Inc. voice 214-748-2233 - fax 214-748-3377 www.createtech.com - Custom Internet Solutions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 12:41:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09731 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09642 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov) From: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Received: (from lamaster@localhost) by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA14402; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:16:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:16:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802181816.KAA14402@george.arc.nasa.gov> To: adrian@creative.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Damn spam(tm) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This sucks. > I post to the freebsd-isp list from my main emai laccount.. this is the first > bit of spam I've ever had from it. Really? You are very lucky. Anyway, no need to quote the entire thing over again. Logic dictates that unless everyone quotes only a portion, the series will diverge. The mail headers are quite sufficient to deal with. > Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de > Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by m > ail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id RAA00282 for u>; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:45:31 +0800 (WST) > Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by public.uni-hamburg.d The first thing that occurs to me is that you should forward your complaint not to the mailing list, which has apparently been abused by an unscrupulous person who is probably reading your message and this one as well, but instead, to spam-complaint@UU.NET, since it appears to be via one of UU.NET's front-end systems, and to the folks at public.uni-hamburg.de, which seem to allow third-party mail relays. Hopefully, as a result of this, the (UU.NET, although it is probably one of their customer ISP's) customer will have their account terminated if that is where it originated, (that part could be forged anyway) and, public.uni-hamburg.de will disallow mail relays from outside their network. > e (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) > id AA07254; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:39:44 +0100 > Message-Id: <9802180939.AA07254@public.uni-hamburg.de> > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > From: 1056_@public.uni-hamburg.de > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:49:53 PST > Subject: HOW YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ANYONE ON THE INTERNET! > X-Mailer: Emailer Platinum (tm) by Internet Marketing Inc. > Apparently-To: : : -Hugh LaMaster Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 12:45:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10496 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from moon.moon.com (kras2.mercury.co.il [199.203.78.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10232 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yugi@xpert.com) Received: from localhost (yugi@localhost) by moon.moon.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00885 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:42:59 +0200 (IST) X-Authentication-Warning: moon.moon.com: yugi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:42:59 +0200 (IST) From: Yuri Gindin X-Sender: yugi@moon Reply-To: yuri@xpert.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems with ppp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have some problem connecting one ISP both using pppd and ppp The problem as follows. Let's take an example with ppp: When I connect using manual dial everything is OK. When I try to connect using the following script, connection fails: default: set device /dev/cuaa2 set speed 57600 set parity even set ctsrts on set log carrier ccp chat command connect ipcp lcp link disable lqr deny lqr isra: set phone 5779000 set redial 20 30 set timeout 290 set login "ogin: xxx TIMEOUT 5 word: yyy" There is no IPCP negotiation Does somebody have any clue Thanx in advance, The log is: Feb 18 22:18:31 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Closing --> Initial Feb 18 22:19:37 moon ppp[771]: Command: Client: close Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Command: Client: dial isra Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Command: isra: set phone 5779000 Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Command: isra: set redial 20 30 Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Command: isra: set timeout 290 Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Command: isra: set login "ogin: xxx word: yyy" Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Expecting Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: sending: ATZ^M Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Expecting OK-AT-OK Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Wait for (5): OK --> OK Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Connect: ATZ^M^M Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Connect: OK Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: sending: ATD5779000^M Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Expecting CONNECT Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Wait for (40): CONNECT --> CONNECT Feb 18 22:20:25 moon ppp[771]: Connect: ^M Feb 18 22:20:42 moon ppp[771]: Connect: ATD5779000^M^M Feb 18 22:20:42 moon ppp[771]: Connect: CONNECT Feb 18 22:20:42 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Expecting ogin: Feb 18 22:20:42 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Wait for (30): ogin: --> ogin: Feb 18 22:20:42 moon ppp[771]: Connect: 31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: Welcome to ISRACOM^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: DNS = 192.117.64.66^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: ^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: ^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: login: Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Chat: sending: xxx^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Expecting word: Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Chat: Wait for (5): word: --> word: Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: xxx^M Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Connect: Password: Feb 18 22:20:44 moon ppp[771]: Chat: sending: yyy^M Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Initial --> Closed Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACFCOMP Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] bb82cac6 Feb 18 22:20:45 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACFCOMP Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Feb 18 22:20:48 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] bb82cac6 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACFCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] bb82cac6 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: Received Configure Ack (3) state = Req-Sent (6) Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACCMAP 00000000 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MAGICNUM dbad2fa0 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACFCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: AUTHPROTO proto = c023 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: SendConfigAck(Ack-Rcvd) Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACCMAP 00000000 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: MAGICNUM dbad2fa0 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: ACFCOMP Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: AUTHPROTO proto = c023 Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: LcpLayerUp Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: LcpLayerDown Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: SendTerminateReq. Feb 18 22:20:51 moon ppp[771]: LCP: State change Opened --> Closing Feb 18 22:20:54 moon ppp[771]: LCP: SendTerminateReq. --Yuri Gindin Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. Work phone: +972-3-6181118 Mobile phone: +972-50-982113 Home phone: +972-3-6735883 PGP Key fingerprint = 5D 56 0B 88 F1 51 4B F7 52 FE 62 28 76 0A 18 77 PGP public key available via http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/pks-commands.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 12:54:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12623 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12536 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) Received: from localhost (zoonie@localhost) by nak.myhouse.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA14807; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:15:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nak.myhouse.com: zoonie owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:15:24 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: Kim Shrier cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Electronic commerce software for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <34EB38BF.5B90000E@createtech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org if you look at the commercial software vendors on www.freebsd.org you will see a company named merchantec or something like that. they make a product called softcart that should do all of this stuff. i am currently starting to think about using that stuff.... On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Kim Shrier wrote: > My company is going to start offering electronic commerce hosting > to our clients. Unfortunately, all the "recommendations" coming > from upper management either only run on NT or run on NT, Solaris, > HPUX, etc.. Does anybody have any recommendations for software that > runs on FreeBSD that supports shopping carts, product catalogs, > store administration, reporting, and credit card capture with an > interface to Cybercash or some other system. In other words, I > am looking for a complete solution since I don't have the luxury > of putting together a system that requires me to glue together > different parts with perl scripts (even though that is what I > would be willing to do). > > Thanks > -- > Kim Shrier - kim@createtech.com > Director of Development - CreateTech, Inc. > voice 214-748-2233 - fax 214-748-3377 > www.createtech.com - Custom Internet Solutions. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 13:19:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18283 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.aha.ru (relay1.aha.ru [195.2.65.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18198 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:19:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bvt@mp.aha.ru) Received: from mp.aha.ru (mpo [195.2.64.39]) by relay1.aha.ru with ESMTP id AAA22963; (8.8.5-MVC-230497/vak/1.9) Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:18:38 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from bvt@localhost) by mp.aha.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA01604; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:15:16 +0300 (MSK) From: Boris Tyshkiewitch Message-Id: <199802182115.AAA01604@mp.aha.ru> Subject: Re: Proxy-Server To: andre@pipeline.ch (IBS / Andre Oppermann) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 00:15:16 +0300 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34EB3A64.100C8763@pipeline.ch> from "IBS / Andre Oppermann" at Feb 18, 98 08:45:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > For a HTTP and FTP proxy server for 1000 more or less simultanious > users: > > - PPro-200, 128MB RAM ^^^^ 256 or more. > - 3GB System Disk > - 2x8GB UW-SCSI striped with ccd, what ccd settings do you recommend? 4x4Gb, striping not needed. squid works good across multiple drives. > - Adaptec 2940UW 2 Adaptecs or 3940 > - 100Mbit fxp card > - FreeBSD 2.2.5(6)-STABLE, kernel tuning? (memmax up to 128) as ordinaly server. memmax to 256 or mode. nmbclusters to 6000. > - Squid cache don't use novm version, its crashes regulary. get extra memory and install ordinary (VM cache) version. 1.1.19 works good. I had 50-60 days uptime for squid. Boris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 14:16:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27181 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27161 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02 (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA06655; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:20:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980218152001.009471b0@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:20:02 -0600 To: Kim Shrier From: Jack Wenger Subject: Re: Electronic commerce software for FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use Goldpaint: http://www.goldpaint.com I'm running a 2.2.2 box, and it runs great. The downside is learning their proprietary mark-up language. At 01:38 PM 2/18/98 -0600, you wrote: >My company is going to start offering electronic commerce hosting >to our clients. Unfortunately, all the "recommendations" coming >from upper management either only run on NT or run on NT, Solaris, >HPUX, etc.. Does anybody have any recommendations for software that >runs on FreeBSD that supports shopping carts, product catalogs, >store administration, reporting, and credit card capture with an >interface to Cybercash or some other system. In other words, I >am looking for a complete solution since I don't have the luxury >of putting together a system that requires me to glue together >different parts with perl scripts (even though that is what I >would be willing to do). > >Thanks >-- >Kim Shrier - kim@createtech.com >Director of Development - CreateTech, Inc. >voice 214-748-2233 - fax 214-748-3377 >www.createtech.com - Custom Internet Solutions. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 14:25:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28890 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:25:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (kf7nn@dal29-28.ppp.iadfw.net [204.178.75.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28822 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 14:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kf7nn@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from kf7nn@localhost) by mutsgo.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA26797 for isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:24:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kf7nn) From: George Vagner Message-Id: <199802182224.QAA26797@mutsgo.dyn.ml.org> Subject: frontpage extensions To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:24:26 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org where can i find the frontpage extensions for freebsd? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 15:32:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10415 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:32:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mhv.net (root@spice.mhv.net [199.0.0.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10375; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phundie@mhv.net) Received: from localhost (phundie@port85.mhv.net [206.229.41.13]) by mhv.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14359; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:09:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:03:09 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Graffam X-Sender: phundie@localhost To: Benedikt Stockebrand cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security In-Reply-To: <873ehh41z3.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18 Feb 1998, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote: > Actually, that can be a "big deal" if IP spoofing is a serious > problem. Yeah, I concede that spoofing is a problem with this method.. > If you need some virtual network with some machines in Peru you > probably should consider using some crypto tunnel. Yeah, tunneling through ssh would be my first choice, but this isn't always possible. > S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better > choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it > allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. No, I don't run rdist. I do run ssh though, and when I am at a machine that can do ssh, I use it. I do need to access my system through machines that can't do ssh though, and for this s/key is the next best choice. I certainly prefer encrypted sessions, but until someone makes, and my access points purchase a terminal server that does ssh, I'm stuck with cleartext telnet.. hijacking my connection wouldn't do too much good though. When on a connection like this I only log in to a non-privy account. About the only thing they could do is read my mail, and send mail as me. I don't consider this a big deal since anyone can do that already by hacking my ISP (really bad security). They can't even deny me my mail since it is all forwarded from my normal account.. I'd still have backups.. and I PGP sign all mail that I send when I am using a secure channel, so sure.. they can get me, but they can't do much, and being able to check my mail during the day and get to a few files here and there greatly outweighs the security risk. Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net) http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc "..subordination of one sex to the other is wrong in itself, and now one of the chief hindrances to human improvement.." John Stuart Mill "The Subjection of Women" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 16:26:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21435 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21424 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:26:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23048; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:25:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00c801bd3ccc$ca335a80$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "George Vagner" , Subject: Re: frontpage extensions Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:24:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: George Vagner >where can i find the frontpage extensions for freebsd? > You can find a link to the frontpage extensions for BSDi v3.0 at my site: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp along with the current apache-fp port. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 16:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21762 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21752 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:28:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com) Received: from localhost (dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18891; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:23:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Babler To: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov cc: adrian@creative.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Damn spam(tm) In-Reply-To: <199802181816.KAA14402@george.arc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov wrote: > > > This sucks. > > I post to the freebsd-isp list from my main emai laccount.. this is the first > > bit of spam I've ever had from it. > > Really? You are very lucky. > > Anyway, no need to quote the entire thing over again. Logic dictates that > unless everyone quotes only a portion, the series will diverge. The mail > headers are quite sufficient to deal with. > > > Return-Path: ttr@public.uni-hamburg.de > > Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.41.1]) by m > > ail.creative.net.au (8.8.5/8.7) with SMTP id RAA00282 for > u>; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:45:31 +0800 (WST) > > Received: from 1Cust26.max29.san-francisco2.ca.ms.uu.net by ... ^^^^^^^^^ This is from MSN.COM. In my experience, complaining (rightfully) to abuse@uu.net will get you an automated reply... but nothing else. UUNet appears not to give a rip - or cannot begin to police all of the abusers on that network. MOST of the German universities are on my list of open relays and hve long since been blocked. -Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 18 16:44:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23867 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23862 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23091 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:43:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00e701bd3ccf$63ff1440$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Subject: Re: FrontPage 98 extensions on FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 18:43:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Jim Mock >Is it just me or is that file not there? If it is, I must've missed it. I >just got off of apache's ftp site too and couldn't find anything there >either. If somebody has it and can up it to the incoming dir on the >FreeBSD site.. I'd appreciate it. Apparently, it was moved to development/ports/pending, I don't know if it means that it is getting close to being committed or not. As the maintainer of this port, it is now available at: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp If you have any suggestions for the port let me know. Also there is a new version of the suexec program available at this site. If you feel that this port has any value, please send a note to the ports list (pr ports/4878) and lets get it submitted. Thanks Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 03:46:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29498 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 03:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29213; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 03:45:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luiz@nlink.com.br) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA24131; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:48:49 -0300 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:48:48 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za Subject: Riscom /N2 + Fractional E1. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear ALL, I have come to a strange problem with a Riscom/N2 card running on a FreeBSD-2.2.5-Stable system. The card is working very well with a 64Kbps Syncronous V.35 interface leased link with CSU/DSU provided by the phone company. I have everything working fine, HDLC, etc. I have another link, a 256Kbps Fractional E1 from a RAD FCD-2L G.703 to V.35 converter and fractioner, with a cable provided by RAD that does not want to work with the Riscom/N2. Did anybody already have a similar problem? What signals are necessary for the card to work with this kind of link? Will i have to convert the signals to X.21? How? This link is working with no problem on a IBM 2210 Router and i would like to switch it to FreeBSD. Any help is welcome. Luiz Nlink ISP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 10:05:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23622 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnica.datanet.hu (arnica.datanet.hu [194.149.0.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23610 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:05:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from agdolla@datanet.hu) Received: from localhost (agdolla@localhost) by arnica.datanet.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22934 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:02:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: arnica.datanet.hu: agdolla owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:02:53 +0100 (NFT) From: Gabor Dolla To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fault tolerant :)) setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I'd like to hear opinions on fault-tolerant setups.... Say, you have two identical machines, one is a mail server the other is the www server, and when one of them is down the other does both jobs. A few years back I worked for a company which had some Digital Alpha servers. Digital had a nice disk tower with an Y cable so both servers were able to access the same disks. Are there such products available for PCs ? What do you recommend/use ? Anybody using Cisco's local director for example ? 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Andrew Madden explains why companies like Whistle are so keen on the small business marke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 15:59:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23918 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23839 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:58:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10865; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:58:27 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:58:27 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newsfeed? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be able to give me a compressed feed of a small number of newsgroups, please. Thanks, Danny /* Daniel O'Callaghan */ /* HiLink Internet danny@hilink.com.au */ /* FreeBSD - works hard, plays hard... danny@freebsd.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 20:37:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10637 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10541 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@mojo.calyx.net) Message-Id: <199802200436.UAA10541@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 6224 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1998 04:09:53 -0000 Received: from kwesi.calyx.net (208.132.136.100) by mojo.calyx.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 1998 04:09:53 -0000 X-Sender: lists@calyx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:07:31 -0500 To: Gabor Dolla From: Nicholas Merrill Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:02 PM 2/19/98 +0100, you wrote: >A few years back I worked for a company which had some Digital Alpha >servers. Digital had a nice disk tower with an Y cable so both servers >were able to access the same disks. Are there such products available for >PCs ? I saw an accessory device like that on DPT's website that works with their RAID systems.. http://www.dpt.com Nick PS if anyone at DPT sees this, please send me a RM unit for an evaluation of indefinite length. Thanks ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 20:39:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11052 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:39:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scope.krs.rt.ru ([195.161.16.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10986 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tke@scope.krs.rt.ru) Received: (from tke@localhost) by scope.krs.rt.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10796 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:36:12 +0700 (KRS) From: Konstantin Telegin Message-Id: <199802200436.LAA10796@scope.krs.rt.ru> Subject: Radius Client To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:36:12 +0700 (KRS) Reply-To: tke@krs.rt.ru X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, All! Would you give me an advise, where i can find a radius client to use it under FreeBSD? Thanks. -- Konstantin Telegin tke@krs.rt.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 21:09:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14817 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:09:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14782 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:09:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07757; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:09:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:09:09 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: tke@krs.rt.ru cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radius Client In-Reply-To: <199802200436.LAA10796@scope.krs.rt.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Konstantin Telegin wrote: > Would you give me an advise, where i > can find a radius client to use it > under FreeBSD? /usr/ports/net/radius or /usr/ports/net/ascend-radius -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 21:36:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18352 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:36:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from g0d.tbe.net (qmailq@g0d.tbe.net [208.192.6.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA18343 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwb@g0d.tbe.net) Received: (qmail 13615 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Feb 1998 05:36:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RADIUS in a mySQL database Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anyone know if it is possible to have radius pull from an SQL database rather than DBM, /etc/passwd, or flat file? James W. Brinkerhoff _____ ___ ___ |_ _| _ ) __| James W. Brinkerhoff | | | _ \ _| TBE Network Security Administrator |_| |___/___| TBE Internet Services - 973.835.9696 Key fingerprint = 0E DA 27 39 91 1E B6 29 A4 D2 5E E5 FD 3B F4 3C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNO0WXKifyqXAOLcdAQGrZQQAvb11evL4AVss/r5zUvl95bUMhhxGN61i pygeTrSErIgFsnXa9M3njFmKXbf2q1r3fur5ZiRJv+AvqMZHUBDnBTrx4mGELyra jM5njs+NEFkbRZ1mETbHIhFQEPmJy/+UQgjvw+kWVQF0BuJ+7wxGbOlTYXy9JK7S mLqZB3OY7t8= =enXu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 22:06:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22848 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [206.156.231.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22831 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: (from paul@localhost) by elvis.mu.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA10991; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:06:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from paul) Message-ID: <19980220000622.45857@mu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:06:22 -0600 From: Paul Saab To: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RADIUS in a mySQL database References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from J. W. Brinkerhoff on Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 12:36:09AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am currently writing a radius server in perl that I hope to have finished in the next few days. My first goal is to get it to be a drop in replacement for Livingston's server and then start implementing other features. One of the features I will implement will be logging in mysql and storing the user information in there too. I have yet to see how responsive it will be since it is in perl, but it is worth a shot. Being a student I don't get as much time as I would like to work on this so if anyone is interested in working on this please contact me in private email. I hope to post something about the server either this weekend or sometime early next week. paul J. W. Brinkerhoff (jwb@g0d.tbe.net) wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Anyone know if it is possible to have radius pull from an SQL database > rather than DBM, /etc/passwd, or flat file? > > James W. Brinkerhoff > > _____ ___ ___ > |_ _| _ ) __| James W. Brinkerhoff > | | | _ \ _| TBE Network Security Administrator > |_| |___/___| TBE Internet Services - 973.835.9696 > Key fingerprint = 0E DA 27 39 91 1E B6 29 A4 D2 5E E5 FD 3B F4 3C > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNO0WXKifyqXAOLcdAQGrZQQAvb11evL4AVss/r5zUvl95bUMhhxGN61i > pygeTrSErIgFsnXa9M3njFmKXbf2q1r3fur5ZiRJv+AvqMZHUBDnBTrx4mGELyra > jM5njs+NEFkbRZ1mETbHIhFQEPmJy/+UQgjvw+kWVQF0BuJ+7wxGbOlTYXy9JK7S > mLqZB3OY7t8= > =enXu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 19 22:51:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27350 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scope.krs.rt.ru ([195.161.16.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27310 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tke@scope.krs.rt.ru) Received: (from tke@localhost) by scope.krs.rt.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12537; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:49:06 +0700 (KRS) From: Konstantin Telegin Message-Id: <199802200649.NAA12537@scope.krs.rt.ru> Subject: Re: Radius Client In-Reply-To: from jack at "Feb 20, 98 00:09:09 am" To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net (jack) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:49:06 +0700 (KRS) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > /usr/ports/net/radius or /usr/ports/net/ascend-radius > The keyword was 'radius client' not 'radius server', are there radius clients in these ports ? Thanks. -- Konstantin Telegin tke@krs.rt.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 00:33:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA09672 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:33:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA09661 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id LAA13139; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:31:58 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199802200831.LAA13139@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-Reply-To: from "Gabor Dolla" at "Feb 19, 98 07:02:53 pm" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: agdolla@datanet.hu (Gabor Dolla) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:31:58 +0300 (MSK) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi > > I'd like to hear opinions on fault-tolerant setups.... > > Say, you have two identical machines, one is a mail server the other is > the www server, and when one of them is down the other does both jobs. > > A few years back I worked for a company which had some Digital Alpha > servers. Digital had a nice disk tower with an Y cable so both servers > were able to access the same disks. Are there such products available for > PCs ? infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... it is not good, but we use this scheme ... may be JFS :) Alex. > > What do you recommend/use ? > Anybody using Cisco's local director for example ? > > Best > > Gabor > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 00:51:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12152 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [205.153.153.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12144 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:51:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20546; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:50:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802200850.AAA20546@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) cc: agdolla@datanet.hu (Gabor Dolla), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 20 Feb 98 11:31:58 +0300. <199802200831.LAA13139@sinbin.demos.su> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:50:31 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I'd like to hear opinions on fault-tolerant setups.... >> Say, you have two identical machines, one is a mail server the other is >> the www server, and when one of them is down the other does both jobs. >> A few years back I worked for a company which had some Digital Alpha >> servers. Digital had a nice disk tower with an Y cable so both servers >> were able to access the same disks. Are there such products available for >> PCs ? >infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, >but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... > >u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, >the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... >it is not good, but we use this scheme ... > >may be JFS :) There have to be hardware products out there, somewhere, that work this way, because this is they way NT clustering server works. You must have two SCSI controllers connected to one or more (SCSI) drives. I believe both servers are allowed to work and do dual service while they are well. The good server takes over when the bad one fails. Don't know if they had to do any magic to NTFS to make this work, or if the magic happens inside the clustering services on both machines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon mvanloon@exmsft.com michaelv@MindBender.serv.net Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 00:52:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12297 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dse4.ns.mci.com (dse4.ns.mci.com [166.35.239.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12292 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan.baritchi@mci.com) Received: from mci.com ([166.41.154.182]) by dse4.ns.mci.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id AAA12975; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 02:48:55 -0600 Message-ID: <34ED4383.4B457452@mci.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 02:49:07 -0600 From: Dan Baritchi Organization: MCI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. W. Brinkerhoff" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, dan baritchi Subject: Re: RADIUS in a mySQL database References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James, Take a look at Cisco Secure (http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/728/Secure/index.html). Basically this product is a Tacacs+/Radius authentication server running on top of an Oracle database. Regards, Dan Baritchi J. W. Brinkerhoff wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Anyone know if it is possible to have radius pull from an SQL database > rather than DBM, /etc/passwd, or flat file? > > James W. Brinkerhoff > > _____ ___ ___ > |_ _| _ ) __| James W. Brinkerhoff > | | | _ \ _| TBE Network Security Administrator > |_| |___/___| TBE Internet Services - 973.835.9696 > Key fingerprint = 0E DA 27 39 91 1E B6 29 A4 D2 5E E5 FD 3B F4 3C > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNO0WXKifyqXAOLcdAQGrZQQAvb11evL4AVss/r5zUvl95bUMhhxGN61i > pygeTrSErIgFsnXa9M3njFmKXbf2q1r3fur5ZiRJv+AvqMZHUBDnBTrx4mGELyra > jM5njs+NEFkbRZ1mETbHIhFQEPmJy/+UQgjvw+kWVQF0BuJ+7wxGbOlTYXy9JK7S > mLqZB3OY7t8= > =enXu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 01:31:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17730 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 01:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA17687 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 01:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id MAA12505; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:28:57 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199802200928.MAA12505@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-Reply-To: <199802200850.AAA20546@MindBender.serv.net> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Feb 20, 98 00:50:31 am" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:28:57 +0300 (MSK) Cc: agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, > >but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... > > > >u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, > >the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... > >it is not good, but we use this scheme ... > > > >may be JFS :) > > There have to be hardware products out there, somewhere, that work > this way, because this is they way NT clustering server works. You > must have two SCSI controllers connected to one or more (SCSI) drives. u can use RAID's controllers (DPT, Infortrand etc) that allow maping of the same logical drive on different SCSI channels, or connect SCSI controlers of both servers on the same SCSI bus with shared disk's ... > I believe both servers are allowed to work and do dual service while > they are well. The good server takes over when the bad one fails. > > Don't know if they had to do any magic to NTFS to make this work, or > if the magic happens inside the clustering services on both machines. don't know about NTFS, but for dual servers work on the same FS it is necessary to use journaling (or loging) FS with special locking scheme, unfortunately this is inaccessible for fbsd servers ... Alex. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael L. VanLoon mvanloon@exmsft.com michaelv@MindBender.serv.net > Contract software development for Windows NT, Windows 95 and Unix. > Windows NT and Unix server development in C++ and C. > > --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- > NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, > Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... > NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 05:51:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21645 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 05:51:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21634 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 05:51:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21923; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:27:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:27:21 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199802201327.IAA21923@sabre.goldsword.com> To: agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:02:53 +0100 (NFT) Gabor Dolla said: >I'd like to hear opinions on fault-tolerant setups.... > >Say, you have two identical machines, one is a mail server the other is >the www server, and when one of them is down the other does both jobs. > >A few years back I worked for a company which had some Digital Alpha >servers. Digital had a nice disk tower with an Y cable so both servers >were able to access the same disks. Are there such products available for >PCs ? I used to design real-time factory data-acq. & control systems, so I'll give this a go. There are at least 5 issues to deal with: 1. Keeping data in sync between two machines where only one machine is active at a time. For simplicity, think of it as one machine running & the 2nd machine in "hot-standby." 2. Handling incoming network traffic that is associated with a specific IP address. 3. Dealing with the transaction that is disrupted when the primary machine fails. 4. Monitoring the primary machine for failure, determining that it has failed, and locking it out to allow the secondary machine to complete or restart the transaction. 5. Restoring the primary machine to service (a subset of startup conditions). How these issues are dealt with are _highly_ dependant on the application(s) involved & the "transparency" required for fault handling. There are also commerical systems available that use tools like this (and others) to provide fault-recovery or prevention (two big players in this are Tandem Computer, now part of Compaq; and Stratus Computers). On the smaller side, several things can be done to improve the typical server setup. Examples are: - Raid Disk Subsystems, possibly with dual control ports. - "round-robin" DNS entries to spread the load over several machines. In addition, dynamic DNS updates with _very_ short expire times, could be used to "disable" access to a faulting server (at the cost of defeating DNS "cacheing"). - With an SNMP controllable hub/switch, the port used by a faulting machine can be locked out of service. - Of course, any single point failure modes should be avoided or removed if possible. For example, everybody thinks about redunant "hot-swap" power supplies in servers. What about the power circuit to it? Are both supplies fed from the same UPS? The same breaker? There are some reasonable things that are easy to overlook but anybody serious about reliable service can implement without a lot of expense. However, the costs do escalate rapidly with the improvement in availablity diminishing just a rapidly. You might move availablity from from 90% to 95% by spending $XXXus. To go from 95% to 96% might require spending 10 * $XXXus. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee Office: (423)691-6498 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 07:25:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05131 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05123 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA20543; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA05758; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:25:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:25:06 -0600 (CST) From: Bernie Doehner To: "Alex G. Bulushev" cc: Gabor Dolla , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-Reply-To: <199802200831.LAA13139@sinbin.demos.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, > but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... > > u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, > the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... > it is not good, but we use this scheme ... > > may be JFS :) > > Alex. What do you use on the backup sever to determine that the primary is dead? I assume something like pinging the other host? Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that the ISA cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched upon dead of the primary over to the secondary? Thanks. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 07:45:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08484 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:45:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from natsiq.nunanet.com (root@natsiq.nunanet.com [199.247.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08456 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@nunanet.com) Received: from natsiq.nunanet.com (www.tunngavik.com [199.247.47.11]) by natsiq.nunanet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA20171 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:42:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:42:01 -0500 (EST) From: Marcel Mason {Personal} To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How do I find routing information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm working with an ISP that uses FreeBSD and am moving from the "design the pages", "help the customer connect", & "setup NT networks" to the server administration side of things. My question is "Where do I look to determine just what is routed where?" I've been through the route man pages but they do not seem to shed any light on simply showing what is where. Any assistance appreciated. MDM ********************************************* If you must choose between 2 evils..... ..... pick the one you've never tried before ********************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:08:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14262 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sunoco.rust.net (sunoco.rust.net [209.69.71.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14203; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:07:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mlucas@verio.net) Received: from absolution.rust.net (absolution.rust.net [209.69.72.132]) by sunoco.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12759; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:09:28 GMT Message-Id: <199802201109.LAA12759@sunoco.rust.net> X-Sender: mwlucas@sunoco.rust.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:04:56 -0500 To: Doug White From: "mlucas@verio.net" Subject: Re: Books on security Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <873ehh41z3.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better >> choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it >> allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. > >If you enable that option :) All my installs of SSH don't allow root >logins. The vanilla install of ssh in the ports directory does allow root logins (at least, on my systems). How can this be turned off? Thanks, ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:21:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16473 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate.greenhills.co.uk (mailgate.greenhills.co.uk [195.11.194.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16446 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mak@greenhills.co.uk) Received: (qmail 248 invoked by uid 982); 20 Feb 1998 16:18:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19980220161802.13371@excite.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:18:02 +0000 From: Martijn Koster To: "mlucas@verio.net" Cc: Doug White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security References: <873ehh41z3.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> <199802201109.LAA12759@sunoco.rust.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199802201109.LAA12759@sunoco.rust.net>; from mlucas@verio.net on Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 11:04:56PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 11:04:56PM -0500, mlucas@verio.net wrote: > > The vanilla install of ssh in the ports directory does allow root logins > (at least, on my systems). > > How can this be turned off? man sshd: PermitRootLogin Specifies whether the root can log in using ssh. ... -- Martijn Koster To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:32:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18070 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from s02.admin.cantv.net (s02.admin.cantv.net [161.196.66.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18032 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:32:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lem@cantv.net) Received: from lemtop.hanoi.com.ve ([161.196.235.251]) by s02.admin.cantv.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13432; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:29:18 -0400 (GMT-0400) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980220122303.0094f100@pop.cantv.net> X-Sender: lem@pop.cantv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:23:03 -0400 To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Luis_E=2E_Mu=F1oz=22?= Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup Cc: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev), agdolla@datanet.hu (Gabor Dolla), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199802200850.AAA20546@MindBender.serv.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:50 AM 20/02/1998 -0800, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: [snip] >There have to be hardware products out there, somewhere, that work >this way, because this is they way NT clustering server works. You >must have two SCSI controllers connected to one or more (SCSI) drives. >I believe both servers are allowed to work and do dual service while >they are well. The good server takes over when the bad one fails. At least in the Digital (DEC, Compaq, whatever it is today :) cluster servers, the servers can talk to each other via the Net and via the SCSI bus. One of the hardest problems is finding out if the other server is really dead. If they only talk via the network, simply unplugging one of the NICs will cause problems as both will try to go live simultaneously. Digital also has another solution (hairier) called a 'True Cluster'. Machines in a True Cluster configuration share memory via a special bus, so you have actually three ways to talk to the other servers. Also, work can be resumed *exactly* where it was left and in a 100% transparent transition, at least this is what I've read. >Don't know if they had to do any magic to NTFS to make this work, or >if the magic happens inside the clustering services on both machines. I *think* the FS has to help. -lem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:36:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18767 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:36:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18715 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net (localhost.mccane.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA29120 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:36:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Message-Id: <199802201636.KAA29120@bmccane.maxbaud.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NIS+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:36:00 -0600 From: Wm Brian McCane Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, Does someone have a web page or ftp site with some simple instructions for configuring NIS/NIS+ on a FreeBSD box? I have set up my machine as a server, but the Linux box that uses me as its master will not authenticate correctly. Also, my machine ignores entries in the yp passwd files; I recall a comment somewhere about putting something like the following in /etc/passwd. +nis::::::: Is this correct? brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:44:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19894 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19775 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19670; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:40:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:40:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Marcel Mason {Personal} cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I find routing information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Marcel Mason {Personal} wrote: > My question is "Where do I look to determine > just what is routed where?" I've been > through the route man pages but they do not > seem to shed any light on simply showing > what is where. > > Any assistance appreciated. > > MDM You can also use route get IP ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 08:56:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22282 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (fn@terror.hungry.com [169.131.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22202 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@pain.Hungry.COM) Received: (from fn@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA06115; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:55:01 -0800 (PST) To: root@bmccane.maxbaud.net (Wm Brian McCane) cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NIS+ References: <199802201636.KAA29120@bmccane.maxbaud.net> From: Faried Nawaz Date: 20 Feb 1998 08:55:01 -0800 In-Reply-To: root@bmccane.maxbaud.net's message of 20 Feb 1998 08:39:44 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org root@bmccane.maxbaud.net (Wm Brian McCane) writes: Also, my machine ignores entries in the yp passwd files; I recall a comment somewhere about putting something like the following in /etc/passwd. +nis::::::: Is this correct? Close. Try ``man 5 passwd'' for lots of detailed information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 09:05:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24550 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:05:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24462 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id UAA14343; (8.6.12/D) Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:02:49 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199802201702.UAA14343@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-Reply-To: from "Bernie Doehner" at "Feb 20, 98 09:25:06 am" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: bad@uhf.wireless.net (Bernie Doehner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:02:49 +0300 (MSK) Cc: agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, > > but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... > > > > u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, > > the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... > > it is not good, but we use this scheme ... > > > > may be JFS :) > > > > Alex. > > What do you use on the backup sever to determine that the primary is dead? > I assume something like pinging the other host? this is one way, but it is not safe, some times when server fail it successfully reply on ping ... u can use special tcp/udp daemon or async cable to determing server is alive ... and send info to server after it rebooted that server is now secondary (when an other server became primary during first server fail) > > Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that the ISA > cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched upon dead of > the primary over to the secondary? i think it is impossibly using fbsd for now ... Alex. > > Thanks. > > Bernie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 09:05:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24566 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24461 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:04:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20492 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:04:35 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <34EDB7A3.41023384@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:04:35 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mail header / processing - Procmail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a need to write a lot of programs to process incoming mail, features I need are: Ability to pull out from, to's, cc's, bcc's (i.e. multiple recipients etc.). Ability to reject mail with attachments, or at least write the attachment out to a temporary file for possible later processing. I've been looking at procmail, and wondering if it will do what I want? My other alternative is to write a library of routines for processing incoming mail (on stdin) and splitting out the addresses / content 'on the fly' and calling other programs passing these details to other programs / (and possibly - though not likely shell scripts). This program can then be wedged in the typical: someaddress: "| /usr/local/bin/myprog" In sendmail's aliases file etc. Anyone got any suggestions? Are there any routines for doing this available? - Is procmail worth looking at? or am I heading in the wrong direction?... Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 09:19:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26645 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26629 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:19:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19619; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:39:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:39:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Marcel Mason {Personal} cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I find routing information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Marcel Mason {Personal} wrote: > My question is "Where do I look to determine > just what is routed where?" I've been > through the route man pages but they do not > seem to shed any light on simply showing > what is where. > > Any assistance appreciated. > > MDM netstat -r ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 09:21:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27053 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from traveler.gensys.com (traveler.gensys.com [204.52.135.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26975 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhupp@traveler.gensys.com) Received: (from jhupp@localhost) by traveler.gensys.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05118; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:19:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:19:54 -0600 (CST) Organization: Little, if any. From: Jeff To: Marcel Mason {Personal} Subject: RE: How do I find routing information Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Go get a copy of _Unxi System Administraion_ from the nutshell handbook series by O' Riley (www.ori.com) In the meantime, `man netstat` or `netstat -r` Marcel Mason {Personal} cast electrons in the following form: : I'm working with an ISP that uses FreeBSD and am : moving from the "design the pages", "help the : customer connect", & "setup NT networks" to : the server administration side of things. : : My question is "Where do I look to determine : just what is routed where?" I've been : through the route man pages but they do not : seem to shed any light on simply showing : what is where. : : Any assistance appreciated. : : MDM : : ********************************************* : If you must choose between 2 evils..... : ..... pick the one you've never tried before : ********************************************* : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --- Jeff Hupp |Network design, monitoring and troubleshooting. |PGP public key available on the key servers. Anything worth doing is worth doing for money. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 10:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09961 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09934 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:39:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23134; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199802201842.NAA23134@sabre.goldsword.com> To: bad@uhf.wireless.net, bag@sinbin.demos.su Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup Cc: agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:25:06 -0600 (CST) Bernie Doehner said: >What do you use on the backup sever to determine that the primary is dead? >I assume something like pinging the other host? Ping's not a good choice, too many variables that effect it's response. I would use a pair of monitoring programs that communicated directly with each other. Each program would have to "speak" to the other every time period, else it's assumed that "He's dead, Jim..." I would also consider by-passing the ethernet connection in favor of a serial or parallel port connection between the two. After all, one of the items your'e monitoring for potential failure is the NIC... >Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that the ISA >cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched upon dead of >the primary over to the secondary? Back in my "old days" circa 1980, we used what was called a DT07 switch unit with DEC PDP-11's, Vax's, etc. It was a programmable unit that plugged into two "Master" busses (Unibus) and moved a third "slave" bus between them. While I suspect that there might be such a beast available for the ISA bus, it begs the question, why bother? If you mean to use the PCI bus, then it's a specialized application of a PCI-PCI bridge, and it's a "simple matter of design..." (And Yes, I know what that entails...) In a server what's on the bus (PCI or ISA) that would need switching? Most servers, the only items to consider would be the NIC(s) and the disk adaptor(s). Terminal/access servers might have 1 or more port cards, Router/PC's the WAN card(s). In all these cases, there is a ton of state information that just switching the card/bus won't transfer unless you replicate the info to the secondary server AND can use it to startup a "sleeping" device. So to switch the cards over would require re-writing the selected ethernet card driver, SCSI card driver.... you get the picture. Far better to look at it at the external level where you are dealing with connecting/disconnecting the external ethernet & SCSI channels. For flexibility, I would approach from the basis of load sharing, with failure of one server being the extreme case. You can design for just about any level of "fault-tolerance" and availablity level that you want, but I ask my clients two questions when they start talking about it, 1.) "What levels do you want?" and 2.) "How big is your checkbook?" In other words, the closer to total fault-tolerance/recovery and 100% availability you get, the more zeros on the check you will give me... John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee Office: (423)691-6498 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 10:41:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10383 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.triax.com (smtp.triax.com [206.58.96.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10357 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@triax.com) Received: from admin.triax.com (jim.triax.com [206.58.99.205]) by smtp.triax.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01821 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:14:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802201814.KAA01821@smtp.triax.com> X-Sender: jmock@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:15:25 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim Mock Subject: Australian backbone providers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know any good backbone providers in Australia? Particularly the Wagga Wagga area.. I know Telstra's there and Optus as well, but I was curious about any others. We're considering going international and I need to get info on pricing etc, and would like to explore as many options as possible. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim +======================================+ Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR USA e-Mail: jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com WWW: http://www.triax.com/ Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 +======================================+ 640KB should be enough for everybody. - Bill Gates, 1982 +======================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 10:48:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11745 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11729; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) Received: from localhost (zoonie@localhost) by nak.myhouse.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA04017; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:46:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nak.myhouse.com: zoonie owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:46:06 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: "mlucas@verio.net" cc: Doug White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security In-Reply-To: <199802201109.LAA12759@sunoco.rust.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org edit the sshd_config file in /etc for the system and change the yes to no for rootlogins.... On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, mlucas@verio.net wrote: > >> S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better > >> choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it > >> allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. > > > >If you enable that option :) All my installs of SSH don't allow root > >logins. > > The vanilla install of ssh in the ports directory does allow root logins > (at least, on my systems). > > How can this be turned off? > > Thanks, > ml > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 11:22:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16464 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:22:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uranus.planet-three.com (homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16456; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by uranus.planet-three.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA17181; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:20:28 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:20:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: "mlucas@verio.net" cc: Doug White , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Books on security In-Reply-To: <199802201109.LAA12759@sunoco.rust.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Put the following in your sshd_config file: PermitRootLogin no Scot On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, mlucas@verio.net wrote: > >> S/key is vulnerable to session hijacking, so ssh may be a better > >> choice. If you use rdist, ssh has the additional advantage that it > >> allows root to do run it while plain rsh won't. > > > >If you enable that option :) All my installs of SSH don't allow root > >logins. > > The vanilla install of ssh in the ports directory does allow root logins > (at least, on my systems). > > How can this be turned off? > > Thanks, > ml > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 11:52:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19815 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19731 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:51:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23382; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:53:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199802201953.OAA23382@sabre.goldsword.com> To: bad@uhf.wireless.net, bag@sinbin.demos.su Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup Cc: agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:02:49 +0300 (MSK) (Alex G. Bulushev) said: >> > infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, >> > but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... >> > >> > u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, >> > the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... >> > it is not good, but we use this scheme ... >> > >> > may be JFS :) >> > >> > Alex. >> >> What do you use on the backup sever to determine that the primary is dead? >> I assume something like pinging the other host? > >this is one way, but it is not safe, some times when server fail >it successfully reply on ping ... u can use special tcp/udp daemon >or async cable to determing server is alive ... and send info >to server after it rebooted that server is now secondary (when >an other server became primary during first server fail) > >> >> Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that the ISA >> cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched upon dead of >> the primary over to the secondary? > >i think it is impossibly using fbsd for now ... Not necessarily impossible... One approach would be to use a shared NFS server with a private little network. For example: _________ _____________ | NFS |-------| Dedicated | | Server| | HUB | ____________ |_______| |___________| | | | |______| Server 1 | | |__________| ____________ |____________________________| | | Server 2 | |__________| Of course, now you've introduced a failure point within the NFS server and the dedicated network (ethernet, FDDI, ATM, etc.). If I was seriously looking at building a new very high availability server design, I would probably start with the multi-processor kernel work and see if the underlying communication & sync. code could be generalized to work across linkages other than the current tightly coupled model. (For a look at approaches from the other direction, building applications that use networked computers as one, visit: http://www.netlib.org.) John (Will design systems for food.... :^>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee Office: (423)691-6498 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 13:08:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03762 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:08:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03733 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:08:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13698; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:07:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802202107.NAA13698@implode.root.com> To: Jim Mock cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:15:25 PST." <199802201814.KAA01821@smtp.triax.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:07:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Anyone know any good backbone providers in Australia? Particularly the >Wagga Wagga area.. I know Telstra's there and Optus as well, but I was >curious about any others. We're considering going international and I need >to get info on pricing etc, and would like to explore as many options as >possible. > >Any info would be appreciated. You might want to talk to AUSnet. 503 242 1400. Last I heard, they were selling off their Australian operation and focusing entirely on the US market, but it might be worth chatting with them anyway since they are local here in Portland. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 14:34:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16829 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from diabolik.logic.it (diabolik.logic.it [195.120.151.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16692 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:34:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from molter@logic.it) Received: (qmail 23670 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1998 22:33:37 -0000 Received: from mc5.logic.it (HELO dumbwinter.logic.it) (195.120.151.105) by diabolik.logic.it with SMTP; 20 Feb 1998 22:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2252 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Feb 1998 22:33:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:32:59 +0100 (MET) From: Marco Molteni To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail header / processing - Procmail? In-Reply-To: <34EDB7A3.41023384@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Anyone got any suggestions? Are there any routines for doing this > available? - Is procmail worth looking at? or am I heading in the wrong > direction?... Do go with procmail which, as we say in Italy, is capable to make cofee too ;-) For a clever example of the power of procmail, see http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/junkmail/ which is a package to deal with spam mail (BTW, I suggest junkmail to everybody who hates spam) Marco --- Il mondo e' bello perche' e' Bacio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 14:47:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19339 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:47:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19334 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11165; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:46:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" Reply-To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Marco Molteni cc: Karl Pielorz , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail header / processing - Procmail? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Marco Molteni wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > For a clever example of the power of procmail, see > > http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/junkmail/ > > which is a package to deal with spam mail (BTW, I suggest junkmail to > everybody who hates spam) No kidding, I've fine tuned mine to the point that I only see one or two spam messages a week, the other 35 or so go straight to a mailbox that I check once in a while, just to make sure that nothing was incorrectly labeled spam. The biggest problem I have is that some of the people on the technical lists I read have their home machine masquerading as hotmail.com or such, so that any email they send goes there, and my finetuned filters puke on them, knowing that they didn't really come from hotmail.com. (And no, I won't make my refinements publicly available, only because if they come too well known, the spammers will look at it and figure out how to get around it, but I'll give advice on anyone that wants to work on their own). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 17:05:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16446 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:05:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16405 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04781; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:35:19 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA22472; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:35:18 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980221113518.10035@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:35:18 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Jim Mock , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers References: <199802201814.KAA01821@smtp.triax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199802201814.KAA01821@smtp.triax.com>; from Jim Mock on Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 10:15:25AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 February 1998 at 10:15:25 -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > Anyone know any good backbone providers in Australia? Particularly the > Wagga Wagga area.. I know Telstra's there and Optus as well, but I was > curious about any others. We're considering going international and I need > to get info on pricing etc, and would like to explore as many options as > possible. You should be aware that Telstra has several operations. The backbone operation works quite well, except that they insist on assigning one of their IP addresses to your gateway, and they assign a silly name to go with it. The service has been pretty good in the 7 odd months I've been connected. Check out http://www.telstra.net/. Don't confuse this with their toy network at http://www.bigpond.com, which is very bad. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 19:38:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14513 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14507 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05006; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:08:10 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA15493; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:08:10 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980221140810.12820@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:08:10 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Bernie Doehner , "Alex G. Bulushev" Cc: Gabor Dolla , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup References: <199802200831.LAA13139@sinbin.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 09:25:06AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 February 1998 at 9:25:06 -0600, Bernie Doehner wrote: >> infortrand RAID's allow fault-tolerant scheme with two or more servers, >> but it is a problem to mount the same UFS from different servers ... >> >> u can mount disk RW only for one server, after first server fail, >> the second server run fsck and mount disk (or mount disk RO) ... >> it is not good, but we use this scheme ... >> >> may be JFS :) > > What do you use on the backup sever to determine that the primary is dead? > I assume something like pinging the other host? That's the wrong way round. Pinging just tells you that the host isn't completely dead, not that it's up and running. What you need is for the system to tell you that it's still running. This is the method that Tandem uses: they're called "I'm alive" messages. > Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that > the ISA cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched > upon dead of the primary over to the secondary? Plenty, but they're complicated. The basic thing to think about is: any one component must be able to fail without compromising the integrity of the overall system. In our kind of environment, the most likely thing to fail is the network connection. That means you *must have* two network connections between the machines. If you don't, a network failure will make both machines thing that the other one has died. The resultant mess, which we called the "split brain syndrome" at Tandem, is horrible to behold. They don't both have to be Ethernet--in fact, there's merit in having, say, a parallel port connection and a network connection, or in this particular situation (sharing as SCSI bus), the SCSI bus itself. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 19:53:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17429 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:53:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from email.polaccess.com (ppp8.polaccess.com [209.100.230.73] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17404 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcin@polaccess.com) Received: from [209.100.230.78] by email.polaccess.com (SMTPD32-3.03) id A9C364660110; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <34EE4E48.230B@polaccess.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:47:20 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@polaccess.com Organization: PolAccess X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: to Frame or NOT to Frame Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone out there using a FRAME RELAY trechnology as a internet backbone for their service...Please let me know by replaynig to my e-mail ..and one more thing is there a big diffrence between dedicated and Frame Relay...One of my friends is looking to connect his BBS with a 128-256K Frame Relay connection and I don't know anything about this technology...Help... Marcin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 20 23:31:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10055 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10038 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id KAA11173; (8.6.12/D) Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:28:11 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199802210728.KAA11173@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: fault tolerant :)) setup In-Reply-To: <199802201953.OAA23382@sabre.goldsword.com> from "John T. Farmer" at "Feb 20, 98 02:53:08 pm" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: jfarmer@goldsword.com (John T. Farmer) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:28:11 +0300 (MSK) Cc: bad@uhf.wireless.net, agdolla@datanet.hu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Is there any way you know of to set up a redudant system such that the ISA > >> cards from the primary sever are automaticaly hot switched upon dead of > >> the primary over to the secondary? > > > >i think it is impossibly using fbsd for now ... > > Not necessarily impossible... > > One approach would be to use a shared NFS server with a private little > network. For example: > > _________ _____________ > | NFS |-------| Dedicated | > | Server| | HUB | ____________ > |_______| |___________| | | > | |______| Server 1 | > | |__________| ____________ > |____________________________| | > | Server 2 | > |__________| > > Of course, now you've introduced a failure point within the NFS server > and the dedicated network (ethernet, FDDI, ATM, etc.). this is an other case ... we use it on high loaded system, one NFS server, private 100Mb network and 3 equivalent servers runing users tasks and share NFS disk ... u can use NAT at the router for load balansing ... Internet ... <---------------+ | +------+--------+ +--------------+------------+------|router with NAT| | | | +---------------+ +----------+ +---+----+ +---+----+ |NFS server| |server 1| |server 2| ........ +---+--+---+ +---+----+ +---+----+ | | | | +--+------------+--------------+ private 100Mb network (network use hub or so, not showing on the picture) NFS server is weak point of this scheme u can replace NFS server by dual servers with disk on RAID shared via SCSI bus and add second router, and second ethernet (used if first failed) Alex. > > If I was seriously looking at building a new very high availability > server design, I would probably start with the multi-processor kernel > work and see if the underlying communication & sync. code could be > generalized to work across linkages other than the current tightly > coupled model. (For a look at approaches from the other direction, > building applications that use networked computers as one, visit: > http://www.netlib.org.) > > John (Will design systems for food.... :^>) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems > jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee > Office: (423)691-6498 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com > Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 21 07:47:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04651 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 07:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixcom.mixcom.com (daemon@mixcom.mixcom.com [198.137.186.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA04646 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 07:47:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: by mixcom.mixcom.com (8.6.12/2.2) id JAA21125; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:49:18 -0600 Received: from dial193-12.mixcom.com(207.250.193.12) by mixcom.mixcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma021092; Sat Feb 21 09:48:49 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980221094609.0078ec98@rustbelt.com> X-Sender: jeffm@rustbelt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:46:09 -0600 To: marcin@polaccess.com, "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: to Frame or NOT to Frame In-Reply-To: <34EE4E48.230B@polaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:47 PM 2/20/98 -0600, Marcin Pasek wrote: >Is anyone out there using a FRAME RELAY trechnology as a internet >backbone for their service...Please let me know by replaynig to my >e-mail ..and one more thing is there a big diffrence between dedicated >and Frame Relay...One of my friends is looking to connect his BBS with a >128-256K Frame Relay connection and I don't know anything about this >technology...Help... Probably not the best list to ask this and I have not yet done anything with it, but FR and frac T1's, are not that difficult and similiar to dedicated T1 setup. Depending on how you order and what you want to do it could be something like a poor man's T1 or a stepping stone to one. An advantage is that you are guaranteed the bandwidth you pay for, but can burst up to full T1 making it cost effective for lower bandwidth situations. Another great thing is you can have several locations on the same FR "cloud" that share the T1. With that let's say you have several BBS's: ------------ ---------- | your POP |--| router | ------------ ---------- | | Full T1 to backbone | | -------------- | FR cloud 1 | -------------- | | | | | | Customer 1 - | - Customer 3 | | Customer 3 This gives you a basic idea of what you can do, but it is more complex than PTP T1 connections. You also need to check with your local telco(s) and find out what they offer. Livingston has some good documentation, no matter what you use or plan to use. http://www.livingston.com/Tech/Technotes/Routing/index.html#Frame Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 21 11:57:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09459 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09447 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from hilltop (dabo-girl.isdn.mke.execpc.com [169.207.65.28]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.8.8) id NAA19336; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:57:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980221135633.006fea9c@rustbelt.com> X-Sender: jeffm@rustbelt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:56:33 -0600 To: Jim Riffle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Sendmail rule In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:45 PM 2/18/98 -0500, Jim Riffle wrote: >I have a customer whom uses UUCP through us, and he was wanting to know if >I could bounce back any messages coming from his domain address to his >domain, going through the UUCP link. IE, his people should address >internal mail to a local agent instead of the UUCP agent. So, basically I >am after a sendmail rule which will return a message if say it is from >someone@foo.com address to someoneelse@foo.com. Does anyone have a rule >such as that, or suggestions? Besides suggesting he hold a meeting and >tell his people how to use their mail software :) > >I am not sure if this message is completely appropriate for this list, but >believe this is where it should go as other ISPs may have ran into this >before. I'd say it is. Variations of this come in hand, especially with multiple domains. Rsomeone<@foo.com>$* $#duucp$@foo$: R$*<@foo.com>$* $#duucp$@foo$:$1<@foo.com>$2 Mind you this was from and old (8.6.12/2.2) version and it would be better used in M4, but I haven't finished playing with that. Maybe someone else can interpret. :/ Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 21 16:37:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16703 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hoopty.ptialaska.net (hoopty.ptialaska.net [198.70.228.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16696 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plan9@netlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoopty.ptialaska.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA07308 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:38:49 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from plan9@netlane.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:38:48 -0900 (AKST) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@hoopty.ptialaska.net To: freebsd-isp Subject: /etc/ftpusers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org why does "popclient2.4b2" return "Incorrect password for User" from my 2.2.5 server when the User is listed in /etc/ftpusers? i'd like to allow email to all, but dissallow FTP access to the server for some users ... please reply via email as well. ------------------------------------------------- FingerPrint BA09868C 1B995204 58410FD3 A5E7B2DA ------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 21 17:12:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19790 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19784 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA10744; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:12:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-isp From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: /etc/ftpusers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:38:48 -0900." Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:11:59 -0500 Message-ID: <10740.888109919@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Howe wrote in message ID : > > why does "popclient2.4b2" return "Incorrect password for User" > from my 2.2.5 server when the User is listed in /etc/ftpusers? > > i'd like to allow email to all, but dissallow FTP access to > the server for some users ... please reply via email as well. Its not popclient, its qpopper. qpopper has a compile time option to restrict pop access to people not listed in a file, and I believe it defaults to /etc/ftpusers. Solution: recompile qpopper Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 21 17:15:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20478 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:15:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20473 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06187; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:45:33 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA07942; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:45:33 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980222114532.09051@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:45:32 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Howe , freebsd-isp Subject: Re: /etc/ftpusers References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Howe on Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 03:38:48PM -0900 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 February 1998 at 15:38:48 -0900, Steve Howe wrote: > > why does "popclient2.4b2" return "Incorrect password for User" > from my 2.2.5 server when the User is listed in /etc/ftpusers? Because the user is listed in /etc/ftpusers. It's a list of users to exclude. From the man page: ftpusers contains a list of users who cannot access this system using the File Transfer Protocol (FTP). Clever name, eh? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message