From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 03:07:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16874 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:07:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16834 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from hilltop (geordi-laforge.isdn.mke.execpc.com [169.207.65.48]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA19781 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:07:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980222050452.00729710@rustbelt.com> X-Sender: jeffm@rustbelt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:04:52 -0600 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: popper slow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently installed the popper port (qpopper 2.41beta1) and find that it hangs or is real slow and sporadic if a moderately large message, say 35K, is in the mailbox. It doesn't matter if the total mail is 20 messages for 100K or if I have almost 1M of mail. Rather odd, since I'm doing nothing fancy with it. The inital parsing is quick. Running 2.2.5 on a P166 w/64MB, several disks, with near nothing for load and connecting via 128 ISDN, but is the same on the network. Tempted to back off to 2.4, but don't feel like hacking the port, yet. On a slower system with an older version I can pull almost any size message without a hitch. I've also noticed that it doesn't clean the lock files. Or is that a feature? At least it doesn't prevent a new connection. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 03:09:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17875 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (sendmail@mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16835; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 03:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from hilltop (geordi-laforge.isdn.mke.execpc.com [169.207.65.48]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA19748; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:05:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980222045239.00721cfc@rustbelt.com> X-Sender: jeffm@rustbelt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:52:39 -0600 To: "Gary Palmer" , Steve Howe From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: /etc/ftpusers Cc: freebsd-isp In-Reply-To: <10740.888109919@gjp.erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:11 PM 2/21/98 -0500, Gary Palmer wrote: >Steve Howe wrote in message ID >: >> >> why does "popclient2.4b2" return "Incorrect password for User" >> from my 2.2.5 server when the User is listed in /etc/ftpusers? >> >> i'd like to allow email to all, but dissallow FTP access to >> the server for some users ... please reply via email as well. > >Its not popclient, its qpopper. qpopper has a compile time option to >restrict pop access to people not listed in a file, and I believe it >defaults to /etc/ftpusers. Solution: recompile qpopper Another possibility: It will also use S/key if that is installed first and if you have /etc/skey.access a permit can be added, but I like using it for mail, even if it is a slight hassle. If you have skey you can test it by copying the line for another account in /etc/skeykeys to the user you are trying: telnet foo.com 110 Trying ... Connected to foo.com. Escape character is '^]'. +OK QPOP (version 2.41beta1) at foo.com starting. <7938.888144351@foo.com> user testy +OK s/key 9876 fo12345 (required) quit +OK Pop server at foo.com signing off. Connection closed by foreign host. You might want to upgrade too. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 11:04:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24908 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:04:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uranus.planet-three.com (homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24903 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by uranus.planet-three.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25341; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:03:22 GMT Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:03:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: popper slow In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980222050452.00729710@rustbelt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having similar problems with the imap server too... It used to be very quick but recently suddenly started to take in the region of a minute to connect. I'm using Pine and Netscape as clients - and I'm also having problems with largeish attachments. Any ideas? Scot. On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:04:52 -0600 > From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" > To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: popper slow > > > Recently installed the popper port (qpopper 2.41beta1) and find that it hangs or is real slow and sporadic if a moderately large message, say 35K, is in the mailbox. It doesn't matter if the total mail is 20 messages for 100K or if I have almost 1M of mail. > > Rather odd, since I'm doing nothing fancy with it. > > The inital parsing is quick. > > Running 2.2.5 on a P166 w/64MB, several disks, with near nothing for load and connecting via 128 ISDN, but is the same on the network. > > Tempted to back off to 2.4, but don't feel like hacking the port, yet. > > On a slower system with an older version I can pull almost any size message without a hitch. > > > I've also noticed that it doesn't clean the lock files. > Or is that a feature? > At least it doesn't prevent a new connection. > > > > Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking > jeff@mountin.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 15:11:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03427 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03417 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:11:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA08429; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:00:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA25432; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:33:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980222233316.37798@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:33:16 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Boris Tyshkiewitch , IBS / Andre Oppermann Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy-Server References: <34EB3A64.100C8763@pipeline.ch> <199802182115.AAA01604@mp.aha.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199802182115.AAA01604@mp.aha.ru>; from Boris Tyshkiewitch on Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 12:15:16AM +0300 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 12:15:16AM +0300, Boris Tyshkiewitch wrote: > > > > For a HTTP and FTP proxy server for 1000 more or less simultanious > > users: > > > > - PPro-200, 128MB RAM > ^^^^ 256 or more. > > > - 3GB System Disk > > - 2x8GB UW-SCSI striped with ccd, what ccd settings do you recommend? > > 4x4Gb, > striping not needed. squid works good across multiple drives. How ? The cache has usually 8-255 start dirs (00..FF) How do you want to split this in a sane way ? > as ordinaly server. memmax to 256 or mode. nmbclusters to 6000. What does nmbclusters tune ? Disk cache ? What maxuser value would you recommend using 256 MB RAM ? -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 16:05:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08131 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:05:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08122 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:05:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20759; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:03:06 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:03:05 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Andreas Klemm cc: Boris Tyshkiewitch , IBS / Andre Oppermann , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy-Server In-Reply-To: <19980222233316.37798@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > - 3GB System Disk > > > - 2x8GB UW-SCSI striped with ccd, what ccd settings do you recommend? > > > > 4x4Gb, > > striping not needed. squid works good across multiple drives. > How ? The cache has usually 8-255 start dirs (00..FF) > How do you want to split this in a sane way ? Use multiple cache_dir statements. > > as ordinaly server. memmax to 256 or mode. nmbclusters to 6000. > > What does nmbclusters tune ? Disk cache ? Maximum simultaneous connections Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 16:41:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12400 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12390 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id BAA28171; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:30:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id BAA16088; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:29:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980223012923.15991@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:29:23 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: Boris Tyshkiewitch , IBS / Andre Oppermann , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy-Server References: <19980222233316.37798@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Daniel O'Callaghan on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 11:03:05AM +1100 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 11:03:05AM +1100, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > - 3GB System Disk > > > > - 2x8GB UW-SCSI striped with ccd, what ccd settings do you recommend? > > > > > > 4x4Gb, > > > striping not needed. squid works good across multiple drives. > > How ? The cache has usually 8-255 start dirs (00..FF) > > How do you want to split this in a sane way ? > > Use multiple cache_dir statements. Aaahh, great ! Thanks ! -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 17:54:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23341 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atlas.iexpress.net.au (root@atlas.iexpress.net.au [203.38.34.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23334 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikey@iexpress.net.au) Received: from support1 (support1.iexpress.net.au [203.38.34.23]) by atlas.iexpress.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21238; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:56:23 +0800 Message-ID: <008601bd3ffe$2e7c8f00$172226cb@support1.iexpress.net.au> From: "Michael Slater" To: "Greg Lehey" , "Jim Mock" , Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:55:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have found Telstra's Network to be quite good They do however require a lead time of 40 (or more) working days to do almost anything...which i find to be almost unbearable, when im in a hurry to get something done. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lehey To: Jim Mock ; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers >On Fri, 20 February 1998 at 10:15:25 -0800, Jim Mock wrote: >> Anyone know any good backbone providers in Australia? Particularly the >> Wagga Wagga area.. I know Telstra's there and Optus as well, but I was >> curious about any others. We're considering going international and I need >> to get info on pricing etc, and would like to explore as many options as >> possible. > >You should be aware that Telstra has several operations. The backbone >operation works quite well, except that they insist on assigning one >of their IP addresses to your gateway, and they assign a silly name to >go with it. The service has been pretty good in the 7 odd months I've >been connected. Check out http://www.telstra.net/. Don't confuse >this with their toy network at http://www.bigpond.com, which is very >bad. > >Greg > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 18:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25140 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25108 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bentreality.com) Received: from br02.acw-web.com (br02.acw-web.com [156.46.248.99]) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA05160 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:07:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980222200616.006c3b38@acw-web.com> X-Sender: jwenger@acw-web.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:06:16 -0600 To: FreeBSD ISP list From: Jack Wenger Subject: Setting up bootp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any of you folks setup bootp for any reason? If you have, may I please get a copy of your bootptab file? I would like to take a look to help me setup my own. Thanx! ------------- Excellence in Web Design -------------- Bent Reality Graphics Jack Wenger, Owner info@bentreality.com http://www.bentreality.com 608-233-8571 or 1-888-701-1026 IBM Business Partner - Internet Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 18:39:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01827 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01820 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA02994; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:40:11 GMT Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:40:11 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Jack Wenger cc: FreeBSD ISP list Subject: Re: Setting up bootp In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980222200616.006c3b38@acw-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Jack Wenger wrote: > Any of you folks setup bootp for any reason? If you have, may I please get Yes, lots I dare say. > a copy of your bootptab file? I would like to take a look to help me setup > my own. Mine aren't likely to be any clearer than the sample bootptab file. Just plug in your own machine names, IP addresses and ether addresses. Better yet, install one of the DHCP servers. A little more involved in the initial setup (very little more) but maintenance is an order of magnitude lower. I'm using ISC DHCP since I have a feeling it will be the first to support dynamic DNS. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 22 23:07:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01733 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:07:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.aha.ru (relay1.aha.ru [195.2.65.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01728 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bvt@mp.aha.ru) Received: from mp.aha.ru (mpo [195.2.64.39]) by relay1.aha.ru with ESMTP id KAA14729; (8.8.5-MVC-230497/vak/1.9) Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:07:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: (from bvt@localhost) by mp.aha.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14406; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:03:20 +0300 (MSK) From: Boris Tyshkiewitch Message-Id: <199802230703.KAA14406@mp.aha.ru> Subject: Re: Proxy-Server To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:03:19 +0300 (MSK) Cc: andre@pipeline.ch, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980222233316.37798@klemm.gtn.com> from "Andreas Klemm" at Feb 22, 98 11:33:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > as ordinaly server. memmax to 256 or more. nmbclusters to 6000. > > What does nmbclusters tune ? Disk cache ? > What maxuser value would you recommend using 256 MB RAM ? maxusers 256 options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" options "NMBCLUSTERS=6000" proxy3:bvt:/sys/i386/conf# top -b last pid: 28600; load averages: 0.09, 0.09, 0.08 10:00:51 37 processes: 1 running, 36 sleeping Mem: 163M Active, 9564K Inact, 40M Wired, 38M Cache, 7893K Buf, 784K Free Swap: 512M Total, 85M Used, 427M Free, 17% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 10023 root 2 0 170M 143M select 35.1H 4.39% 4.39% squid 163 root 2 0 340K 568K accept 0:37 0.42% 0.42% sshd 28597 squid 2 0 244K 720K select 0:00 0.05% 0.04% ftpget 28599 squid 2 0 244K 708K select 0:00 0.21% 0.04% ftpget Boris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 03:25:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25558 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25550 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA26461; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:25:21 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19980223222518.21617@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:25:18 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Michael Slater Cc: Greg Lehey , Jim Mock , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers References: <008601bd3ffe$2e7c8f00$172226cb@support1.iexpress.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <008601bd3ffe$2e7c8f00$172226cb@support1.iexpress.net.au>; from Michael Slater on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:55:56AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:55:56AM +0800, Michael Slater wrote: > I have found Telstra's Network to be quite good They do however require a > lead time of 40 (or more) working days to do almost anything...which i find > to be almost unbearable, when im in a hurry to get something done. Early last year they required 6 weeks notice for a new connection, but by November that'd come down to 1 week. Mine only took a few days. Some things about Telstra's services have changed, and some haven't, so it's always good to check before making plans around them. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 03:41:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26674 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA26665; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01328; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:43:42 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Newsgroups: pl.comp.os.freebsd,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:43:39 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, G Hasse Subject: ANNOUNCE: PicoBSD 0.3 is available! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! After lengthy period of fighting with memory-related issues, I am pleased to announce the availability of PicoBSD 0.3 - one floppy version of FreeBSD 3.0. There are basically two variants of it: one for dialup access, and one router-like. You can get more info, and download it at: http://www.freebsd.org/~abial The 'dialup' version will run even on 386SX with 8MB RAM. You'll find there also a set of scripts which make the process of creating such one-floppy setups very easy. If you're an ISP, I especially recommend them to you - you can prepare a custom picobsd floppy to give your customers easy and secure access to your facilities. Enjoy! Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 04:49:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04295 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:49:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tomahawk.cbn.net.id (tomahawk.cbn.net.id [202.158.2.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04283 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from engel@cbn.net.id) Received: from cbn.net.id (engel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tomahawk.cbn.net.id (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA12120 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:53:51 +0700 Message-ID: <34F1715D.59A280ED@cbn.net.id> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:53:49 +0000 From: Engelhard Reply-To: engel@cbn.net.id X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.88 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proxy-Server References: <199802230703.KAA14406@mp.aha.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Boris Tyshkiewitch wrote: > > > > > > as ordinaly server. memmax to 256 or more. nmbclusters to 6000. > > > > What does nmbclusters tune ? Disk cache ? > > What maxuser value would you recommend using 256 MB RAM ? > > maxusers 256 > > options "MAXDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" > options "DFLDSIZ=(256*1024*1024)" > options "NMBCLUSTERS=6000" > Hi, I have a squid proxy for about 300 dial-in users. It is PII 128 MB, 2 Adaptec 2940U Card, each with one 2 GB Baracuda. cache_swap is 3 GB with multiple cache_dir statements. My question is what NMBCLUSTERS's value do you recommend for 128 MB ram? I never use this options because in the LINT file it is an undocumented options. I appreciate your help regards, engel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 08:52:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29897 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29892 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 08:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01570 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:52:53 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <34F1A965.91216119@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:52:53 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mail stats... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any better facilities for logging mail stats other than the 'mailstats' command under FreeBSD / Sendmail? I'm running 2.2.5-RELEASE and I'd like to be able to get some idea of the amount of mail my users are sending (i.e. total k per user) - rather than the Grand total for Local / ESMTP / SMTP etc. (which is still pretty handy...) Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 09:11:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02167 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.commlitho.com (zeus.commlitho.com [207.254.73.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02161 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:11:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patb@commlitho.com) Received: from [207.254.73.18] by mail.commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id ADB823A0130; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:11:20 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com> X-Sender: patb@commlitho.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:10:39 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Patrick Burm Subject: Unsubscribing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, does the list server at FreeBSD.org have to get restored from backups every three days or something. I've unsubscribed three times in the last week and It works for at least 24 hours or so, then usually 3 days later I start getting mail from the list again. I'm leaving town for three weeks and don't want to have to block freebsd.org at my router, or my damn box is gonna be so full when I get back it will take days to sort through my mail. Anyone know about this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 09:39:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05302 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:39:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hq.seicom.net (hq.seicom.net [194.97.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05295 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:39:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from udesign!lukas@hq.seicom.net) Received: from udesign.UUCP by hq.seicom.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id SAA08276; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:40:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by reactor.design.de id m0y71sH-000BijC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:41:05 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980223184103.15511@reactor> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:41:03 +0100 From: Lukas Wunner To: Patrick Burm Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [fbsd-isp] Unsubscribing References: <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com>; from Patrick Burm on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 10:10:39AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > Ok, does the list server at FreeBSD.org have to get restored > from backups every three days or something. I've unsubscribed > three times in the last week and It works for at least 24 hours > or so, then usually 3 days later I start getting mail from > the list again. [...] > Anyone know about this? Same problem here; this is starting to get on my nerves. Queries sent to owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org seem to be forwarded straight to /dev/null. *sigh* Lukas. -- lukas wunner unix, internetworking and security engineer lukas@wunner.de LW26-RIPE http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/ Funkmodems mit 2.4GHz FAQ http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/funk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 09:39:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05363 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (news2.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05321 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:39:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (Alcanet/SMTP) with ESMTP id SAA30469 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:42:37 +0100 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id SAA16003 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:35:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00779 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:41:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22852; Mon, 23 Feb 98 18:33:03 +0100 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA206545085; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:31:25 +0100 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 98 18:31:07 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: missing ppp.linkdown Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Texte" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Texte" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello I'm tying to use user-mode ppp with mgetty (v1.0) to build a PPP-server. I have a problem : when I close the ppp connection (from a W**-95 client), PPP detects an end (Phase : disconnected in the following listing) but stays "alive" until I kill it from the command line. I presume the solution could come from the ppp.linkdown file. I haven't seen one in the distribution and the man page for ijppp is very brief. Has someone any clue ? aTdHvAaNnKcSe TfH ======================================== Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 05 05 00 04 5c a4 Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: LCP: Received Terminate Request (5) stat e = Opened (9) Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: CCP: State change Closed --> Initial Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: IPCP: OsLinkdown: 172.17.10.101 Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: IPCP: IpcpLayerDown. Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: IPCP: 16284 octets in, 16284 octets out Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: IPCP: State change Opened --> Starting Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: LCP: LcpLayerDown Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: LCP: LcpSendTerminateAck. Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: HDLC: HdlcOutput Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 Feb 23 16:09:16 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: LCP: State change Opened --> Stopping Feb 23 16:09:17 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: Phase: Disconnected! Feb 23 16:09:17 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: Phase: Connect time: 352 secs Feb 23 16:09:17 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: Phase: NewPhase: Dead Feb 23 16:09:17 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: LCP: State change Stopping --> Starting Feb 23 16:10:34 pc-mcs1 ppp[226]: tun0: Phase: Signal 1, terminate. ======================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 10:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09150 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:04:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aldhfn.aldhfn.org (root@aldhfn.aldhfn.org [198.17.116.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09132 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org) Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aldhfn.org [198.17.116.15]) by aldhfn.aldhfn.org (8.8.6/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA23247 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by phoenix.aldhfn.org (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 23 Feb 98 13:33:56 EST From: ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org (Skip Watson) Message-Id: <25e53bbf.u8t20e.30d45-ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org> Subject: Re: Unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com> (from Patrick Burm ) (at Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:10:39 -0700) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 23 Feb 98 13:33:56 EST Organization: Auldhaefen Associates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA09135 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Patrick (Patrick Burm), in <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com> on Feb 23 you wrote: > Ok, does the list server at FreeBSD.org have to get restored > from backups every three days or something. I've unsubscribed > three times in the last week and It works for at least 24 hours > or so, then usually 3 days later I start getting mail from > the list again. > > I'm leaving town for three weeks and don't want to have to > block freebsd.org at my router, or my damn box is gonna be so > full when I get back it will take days to sort through my mail. > > Anyone know about this? I wish I did. I have this problem with freebsd-questions. I keep unsubscribe and a week or so later I'm right back on the list. Looks like a major problem somewhere ;-). Skip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 10:43:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15348 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15340; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802231843.KAA15340@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980223101039.0081ea40@commlitho.com> from Patrick Burm at "Feb 23, 98 10:10:39 am" To: patb@commlitho.com (Patrick Burm) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:43:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patrick Burm wrote: > Ok, does the list server at FreeBSD.org have to get restored > from backups every three days or something. I've unsubscribed > three times in the last week and It works for at least 24 hours > or so, then usually 3 days later I start getting mail from > the list again. bottom line......majordomo differentiates between freebsd-questions and questions. previous versions respected teh symlink, changing only the underlying file. i have to re-code some of majordomo to fix this. worked on it yesterday, you try coding with 4 kids in the hourse.......;( > I'm leaving town for three weeks and don't want to have to > block freebsd.org at my router, or my damn box is gonna be so > full when I get back it will take days to sort through my mail. i will remove you all the lists, please resubscribe when you return. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 11:26:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20630 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sl-server1 ([208.234.59.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20604 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nfeliciano@spiderlink.net) Received: from neil.spiderlink.net (neil.spiderlink.net [208.234.59.30]) by sl-server1 (2.5 Build 2630 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA09628 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:31:43 -0400 Received: by neil.spiderlink.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BD406E.C5D0FD30@neil.spiderlink.net>; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:21:54 -0400 Message-ID: <01BD406E.C5D0FD30@neil.spiderlink.net> From: Neil Feliciano To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Sendmail as a relay Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:18:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA20625 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to configure Sendmail as a relay host for my main domains. The purpose of this is that I want to have sort of a secondary mail server so that all smtp traffic goes to the secondary in case that the main or primary can not be reached. DNS configrations a OK. I was thinking about the DH line in sendmail.cf but it only allows just one entry for one domain. Do I need to set up a secondary mail server for each domain? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 11:32:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22248 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22219; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:32:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA29033; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:32:19 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199802231932.VAA29033@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Riscom /N2 + Fractional E1. In-Reply-To: from Luiz de Barros at "Feb 19, 98 08:48:48 am" To: luiz@nlink.com.br (Luiz de Barros) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:32:19 +0200 (SAT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have come to a strange problem with a Riscom/N2 card running on a > FreeBSD-2.2.5-Stable system. > > The card is working very well with a 64Kbps Syncronous V.35 interface > leased link with CSU/DSU provided by the phone company. I have everything > working fine, HDLC, etc. > > I have another link, a 256Kbps Fractional E1 from a RAD FCD-2L G.703 to > V.35 converter and fractioner, with a cable provided by RAD that does not > want to work with the Riscom/N2. Did anybody already have a similar > problem? What signals are necessary for the card to work with this kind of > link? Will i have to convert the signals to X.21? How? This link is > working with no problem on a IBM 2210 Router and i > would like to switch it to FreeBSD. > It might be that it is using seperate clocks for the TX and RX. Have you tried playing with the device flags? Doesn't the card work at all? Does it give any error messages? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 11:41:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24752 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24647 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:40:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id UAA00581 for isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:30:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA05936; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:17:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980223201747.23348@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:17:47 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What if "vipw" and "pw useradd" work concurrently ? 3000 POP users, how ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm currently thinking about how to deal with about 3000 pop3 or imap users. I'm currently adding 5000 local users onto my machine. Just for curiosity ;-) Well, never had to deal with such a huge number of users ;-) NTW: After about 500 users the pw useradd script is really getting slower and slower ;-) Well, then I thought, ok, what might happen, if the system is creating users automatically and then some root user decides to manually finetune passwd using vipw. Well, I get some "holes" in the passwd files (some pop users were missing) and the pw useradd script tells me: root{165} ~ time ./mkuser pw: user 'pop1962' disappeared during update pw: user 'pop1967' disappeared during update ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This seems to be a race condition. I think /etc/master.passwd is locked and the pw useradd utility can't work ... Perhaps this race condition is easily manageable by saying, if something like "pw useradd" is running "don't do that" ;-) But a collegue and I are currently thinking about making admin frontends for adding pop users to a POP server which get user data from a database and you don't know, when there is such a utility running. So ... never more administration via "vipw" if such scripts are running ??? What are your experiences ? BTW, what solution would you recommend if you have to deal with about 3000-4000 pop users ??? How many pop user would you put onto a single machine ??? FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris 2.x machines (Ultra SPARC) are available. Another thing, "authentication" ! BSDI has the possibility to authenticate users using the Radius protocol... What would be the best solution in a larger user environment, to deal with some thousand users ? (Mainly pop accounts and some www/ftp accounts) ? How would you handle incoming mailboxes ? One /var/mail/LOGINNAME is certainly not sufficient ... Would you use a central NIS Server for user authentication over several machines ? I think no other way .... or ?! What about Quotas ? Is quota mechanism fast enough, to distinguish sme thousand users fast enough ??? Or would you create some machines pop1, pop2, pop3..popn for every new 1000 pop users ? Need some good ideas ;-) Is there a good source of information (book, FAQ, ...) for such large installations ? Thanks Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 12:07:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02348 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:07:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.primelink.com (mail.primelink.com [206.24.58.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02289 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbrown@primelink.com) Received: from mystic ([206.24.58.91]) by mail.primelink.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11777) with SMTP id AAA173 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:54:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980223133904.00a9b890@mail.primelink.com> X-Sender: darkstar@mail.primelink.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:39:05 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kevin Brown Subject: Cabling specifications worksheet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! I am looking for some "official" documentation regarding wiring standards for category 3, 4, 5 cabling. I have looked at the IEEE website, but seem to only find their operations charters for different projects. If anyone should have such a document, or know where to find one, it would be greatly appreciated if you would provide me with directions on where to find it. Thanks --Kevin Brown Huber & Associates, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 12:53:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11508 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fwns2.raleigh.ibm.com (fwns2d.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11461; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcg@raleigh.ibm.com) Received: from rtpmail02.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpmail02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.172.48]) by fwns2.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7RTP-FW1.1) with ESMTP id PAA74526; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from calvin.dds.dfw.ibm.com (calvin.dds.dfw.ibm.com [9.39.66.242]) by rtpmail02.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with SMTP id PAA03690; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:53:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:50:17 -0600 (CST) From: Peter Green X-Sender: peterg@calvin.dds.dfw.ibm.com To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <199802231843.KAA15340@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > i will remove you all the lists, > please resubscribe when you return. > jmb Should anyone who has been trying to unsubscribe also do this as a temporary work-around? If so, I would assume it should be via private e-mail, yes? Peter Green To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 15:00:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05052 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prefetch.san.rr.com (ns1.san.rr.com [204.210.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05018; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by prefetch.san.rr.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22269; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:59:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34F1FF3A.D1E126F@san.rr.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:59:06 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE-0223 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unsubscribing References: <199802231843.KAA15340@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > bottom line......majordomo differentiates between > freebsd-questions and questions. previous versions > respected teh symlink, changing only the underlying file. If the purpose is to allow people to mail freebsd-questions@ or questions@ interchangably, wouldn't /etc/aliases be a better way to deal with this? -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 15:11:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07781 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:11:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07770; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martineg@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hridil.ifi.uio.no (3395@hridil.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.48]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id WAA03223; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:35:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from martineg@localhost) by hridil.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 22:35:55 +0100 (MET) To: Peter Green Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unsubscribing References: From: Martin Eggen Date: 23 Feb 1998 22:35:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: Peter Green's message of Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:50:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Green writes: > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > i will remove you all the lists, > > please resubscribe when you return. > > jmb > > Should anyone who has been trying to unsubscribe also do this as a > temporary work-around? If so, I would assume it should be via private > e-mail, yes? > > Peter Green I've had the same problem with -ports, some time after unsubscribing, I start receiving mail to that list again. Is this a general problem with the lists? Martin -- Martin Eggen (martineg@ifi.uio.no) http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~martineg/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 23 17:15:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07380 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07337 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:15:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08919; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:45:09 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA13647; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:45:09 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980224114509.12912@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:45:09 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Sue Blake , Michael Slater Cc: Jim Mock , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers References: <008601bd3ffe$2e7c8f00$172226cb@support1.iexpress.net.au> <19980223222518.21617@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980223222518.21617@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 10:25:18PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 February 1998 at 22:25:18 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:55:56AM +0800, Michael Slater wrote: >> I have found Telstra's Network to be quite good They do however require a >> lead time of 40 (or more) working days to do almost anything...which i find >> to be almost unbearable, when im in a hurry to get something done. > > Early last year they required 6 weeks notice for a new connection, That's what they said. I applied in mid-April and got my connection in mid-July. > but by November that'd come down to 1 week. Mine only took a few > days. Some things about Telstra's services have changed, and some > haven't, so it's always good to check before making plans around > them. My biggest gripe is that they don't inform me of anything. They don't have an email address you can call, and you have to do everything either by phone or by web, which is a pain. They claim to send things to postmaster@yourdomin, but I've never received a single message from them. On the up side, they're very responsive to problem reports--the best I've had so far. And modulo a few DNS problems the service is pretty good, too. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 02:22:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11867 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11843 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00140; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:22:24 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19980224212221.51124@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:22:21 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Greg Lehey Cc: Michael Slater , Jim Mock , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian backbone providers References: <008601bd3ffe$2e7c8f00$172226cb@support1.iexpress.net.au> <19980223222518.21617@welearn.com.au> <19980224114509.12912@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19980224114509.12912@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 11:45:09AM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 11:45:09AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > but by November that'd come down to 1 week. Mine only took a few > > days. Some things about Telstra's services have changed, and some > > haven't, so it's always good to check before making plans around > > them. OK, well, I've seen a some nastier stories since writing that :-) > My biggest gripe is that they don't inform me of anything. They don't > have an email address you can call, and you have to do everything > either by phone or by web, which is a pain. They claim to send things > to postmaster@yourdomin, but I've never received a single message from > them. The postmaster email is not automatic. Information is only sent to keen web surfers who like frames, who stumble across the places where three email addresses can be nominated for forwarding traffic stats, outage, and billing information. Careful handbook readers who extrapolate well are also welcome to try. No extra charge for the treasure hunt. Lynx users are not eligible to enter without parental GUIdance. There are people you can email. I had one written down once. Finding them is much more of a challenge. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 02:49:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16234 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16226 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA11840 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:41:46 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <34EA122A.900DC69B@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:41:46 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: All about SPAM (again)... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I realise this really isn't the place to ask this - but I thought it was kind of relevant as we all seem to be getting hit by SPAM sent to this list as well... If anyone can reply (to me directly if they want to avoid the 'off-topic' calls) - What does everyone do with their SPAM? - I've seen numerous 'mail it to nospam@somewhere.com', install 'anti-spam' rules, join CAUSE etc. Ever since I've started posting to these lists I get hit by about 6 - 7 SPAM messages a day... Ok, not major - but annoying - especially as they all have the 'fatal' "To remove yourself from our list - simply reply with 'remove' as the subject line", and lo and behold "emailmarketing@business.aliens" doesn't really exist! - What a suprise?! ;-) ... Do the Anti-Spam sendmail rules work? - What happens when say one of our customers mails (through us - being allowed by the rules to 'relay' through us) to another site, where the customer is hidden behind a mail-relay (for security reasons)? - Isn't the remotes sites anti-spam rules going to deny the mail? (as it was relayed at our end, and then re-relayed at the other?) - Or is part of these rules a re-write to make it appear the mail hasn't been 'relayed' at our end? Any private / public / general comments greatly appreciated... Regards, Karl Pielorz (Not rich, not going to get rich by mailing $5 to someone, not really interested in $5000 a week for lending my kitchen table out either (OK, maybe - but not if you email me about it from mars) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 07:15:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17356 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xenu.denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17345 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:15:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bminazzi@w3page.com) Received: from orion (blaine@sdn-ts-006coauroP12.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.111]) by xenu.denverweb.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA17273; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:17:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34F2E425.5966DEAB@w3page.com> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:15:49 -0700 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Pielorz CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: All about SPAM (again)... References: <34EA122A.900DC69B@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Hi All, > > I realise this really isn't the place to ask this - but I thought it was kind > of relevant as we all seem to be getting hit by SPAM sent to this list as > well... > > If anyone can reply (to me directly if they want to avoid the 'off-topic' > calls) - What does everyone do with their SPAM? - I've seen numerous 'mail it > to nospam@somewhere.com', install 'anti-spam' rules, join CAUSE etc. Well, it is a bit relevant, since spam issues are a time consuming issue for most ISP's. Methinks that stoping relays off your server, ( pop before sendmail is nice ) rejecting unresolvable domains, blocking known spammer IP addresses, and using the RBL all helps. Add a little procmail filter to scan for certain headers ( t-1net.com ) and a few other goodies... Beyond this, you can really get into doing yourself brain damage trying to stop the shit. I sometimes send it back to the originating ISP or RELAY, but, after a while, that can get to frigging time consuming when the ISP does not give a damn. ( UU.NET seems not to really care. ) While I hate the thought of Gub'mint sticking thee nose in, having a law that would prevent and PUNISH U.C.E. such as the "junk fax" law might help.... Personally, I think if ISP's would include in their user agreements that anyone sending this crap gets billed an extra $10 per peice of UCE mail that gererates a customer complaint, that would cut it a bunch. Since this would make it considerably less economical, methinks it would curb it in a big way.... Take a lesson from the IRS, if you want to modify behavior, do it with the pocketbook. Blaine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 07:30:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19231 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shmooze.net (shmOOze.net [207.164.115.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19226 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markjr@shmooze.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by shmooze.net (8.8.7/8.8.3) id KAA23635; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:28:54 -0500 From: mark jeff || vic Message-Id: <199802241528.KAA23635@shmooze.net> Subject: Re: All about SPAM (again)... To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk (Karl Pielorz) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:28:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34EA122A.900DC69B@tdx.co.uk> from "Karl Pielorz" at Feb 17, 98 10:41:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi All, > > I realise this really isn't the place to ask this - but I thought it was kind > of relevant as we all seem to be getting hit by SPAM sent to this list as > well... > [questions snipped] Because you're email address will appear in the web mail archives for this mailing list, spammers can send out spiders to cull these pages for email addy's. Same thing happens when you post anything to usenet. I use a combination of sendmail antispam rules, and a filter I coded myself. The former, which can be found at http://www.sendmail.org/antispam.html can be used to block known spam domains (my list was obtained from cybernothing.org -don't have the exact URL, but it has all cyberpromo domains and others, so far about 900 of them) and also to prevent relaying. The latter is my own spam filter which attempts to filter on context based rules and works pretty good on whatever is left after the sendmail level stuff, it's avail. at http://antispam.shmooze.net/filter/. regards, markjr Mark Jeftovic aka: mark jeff or vic, stunt pope. markjr@shmOOze.net http://www.shmOOze.net/~markjr PWC's BOFH http://www.PrivateWorld.com IRC: L-bOMb Keep `em Guessing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 08:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28581 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28576 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17426; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:48:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" Reply-To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: All about SPAM (again)... In-Reply-To: <34EA122A.900DC69B@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > If anyone can reply (to me directly if they want to avoid the 'off-topic' > calls) - What does everyone do with their SPAM? - I've seen numerous 'mail it > to nospam@somewhere.com', install 'anti-spam' rules, join CAUSE etc. Basically, I check out the headers, notify the admins of any sites that are being used as relays, and in the rare case that it got through my spam filters, I update my filter as appropriate. > Do the Anti-Spam sendmail rules work? - What happens when say one of our > customers mails (through us - being allowed by the rules to 'relay' through > us) to another site, where the customer is hidden behind a mail-relay (for > security reasons)? - Isn't the remotes sites anti-spam rules going to deny the > mail? (as it was relayed at our end, and then re-relayed at the other?) - Or > is part of these rules a re-write to make it appear the mail hasn't been > 'relayed' at our end? I've installed and modified the sendmail spam filters, and they reduced the amount of spam I get from 10-20 a day to about 5 or 6 (would probably be more, but I didn't include the relay DNS check or the vixie blackhole stuff. I then installed and modified junk.filter, a set of procmail rules, and now only 1 or 2 messages a week make it past my filters. As for modifying junk.filter, just look for the kinds of headers you see only when someone is trying to hide their point of origin. It's much harder to block spam when the spammer doesn't care if you know who sent it. In fact, I just got an add for the "Rapid Fire Mail Server" which makes no attempt to hide anything, but they still blew one header, so my filters caught it, and always will, until they fix that one header, at which point, the job becomes much harder. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 10:14:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11093 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mph124b.rh.psu.edu (MPH124B.rh.psu.edu [128.118.126.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11048 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@pobox.com) From: gsutter@pobox.com Received: from localhost (gsutter@localhost) by mph124b.rh.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05548 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:13:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gsutter@pobox.com) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:13:52 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: gsutter@mph124b.rh.psu.edu To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: All about SPAM (again)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Eric J. Schwertfeger wrote: >On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > >> If anyone can reply (to me directly if they want to avoid the 'off-topic' >> calls) - What does everyone do with their SPAM? - I've seen numerous 'mail it >> to nospam@somewhere.com', install 'anti-spam' rules, join CAUSE etc. > >I then installed and modified junk.filter, a set of procmail rules, and >now only 1 or 2 messages a week make it past my filters. junkfilter is available at http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/junkfilter/ GReg -- Gregory S. Sutter "How do I read this file?" mailto:gsutter@pobox.com "You uudecode it." http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ "I I I decode it?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 24 22:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17016 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:18:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from callie.soffen.com (callie.soffen.com [209.61.94.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17006 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:18:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@soffen.com) From: matt@soffen.com Received: (qmail 413 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Feb 1998 06:23:58 -0000 Date: 25 Feb 1998 06:23:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19980225062358.412.qmail@callie.soffen.com> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Matthew Soffen CC: Subject: Unable to get NIS running on 2 differenet class c's. I am trying to setup a NIS server and a single client too. Both machines are set to the same domain (UltimateTV). The NIS server (206.230.220.131 - Running 2.2.5-RELEASE) appears to be running correctly. It is able to perform yp lookups, yp. I can do yppasswd and it seems to work. However, I am unable to get the client to bind (204.95.170.13 - Running 2.2.2-RELEASE). I have tried the following commands when starting ypbind: ypbind ypbind -ypset -S UltimateTV,mainfreebsd ypset -h freebsd -d UltimateTV mainfreebsd.ultimatetv.com None of these have worked. The ypset command times out and returns this error message: can't yp_bind: Reason: Can't communicate with ypbind Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 04:52:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06130 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 04:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hack.babel.dk (shredder@hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06026 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 04:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: from localhost (shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11565 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:52:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:52:52 +0100 (CET) From: chrw To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to defeat ppl using my host as spam relay? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, One of my hosts is being used as a spam relay from an account at hotmail.com. I have contacted hotmail and the user that spams thru my sendmail (it didnt seem like a fake acct), with no luck. What I need is a rule in sendmail.cf so i can block mail from a certain domain, in this case hotmail.com. I dont have much experience with tweaking sendmail.cf, so I would be REALLY grateful, if someone can send me some using code to implement in my sendmail.cf .. I really want to act on this asap. I hope someone can help me out.. Im running sendmail 8.8.7. Regards, Christoffer Walther To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 05:59:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13783 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.linkdesign.com (relay.linkdesign.com [194.42.128.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13684 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:58:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@linkdesign.com) Received: from cyprus.vds.linkdesign.com (host24.bln.de [194.162.193.232]) by relay.linkdesign.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA25586; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:58:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from Linkdesign.com (localhost. [127.0.0.1]) by cyprus.vds.linkdesign.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14989; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:57:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Michael.Bielicki@Linkdesign.com) Message-Id: <199802251357.OAA14989@cyprus.vds.linkdesign.com> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:57:21 +0100 (CET) From: Michael.Bielicki@linkdesign.com Reply-To: Michael.Bielicki@linkdesign.com Subject: Re: how to defeat ppl using my host as spam relay? (fwd) To: shredder@hack.babel.dk cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; BOUNDARY="0-1681692777-888415051=:24091" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1681692777-888415051=:24091 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 25 Feb, chrw wrote: > > > Hello, > > One of my hosts is being used as a spam relay from an account at > hotmail.com. I have contacted hotmail and the user that spams thru > my sendmail (it didnt seem like a fake acct), with no luck. > > What I need is a rule in sendmail.cf so i can block mail from a certain > domain, in this case hotmail.com. I dont have much experience with > tweaking sendmail.cf, so I would be REALLY grateful, if someone can > send me some using code to implement in my sendmail.cf .. I really > want to act on this asap. I hope someone can help me out.. > > Im running sendmail 8.8.7. > > > Regards, > > > Christoffer Walther > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Look into /usr/src/etc/mail There is everything u need for a nearly perfect spamfilter :) -- Michael Bielicki Buisnetco Telecom. Ltd. Link Design International Ltd. 13 Iras Str., Office 23 65, Cliff Rd, Tramore Nicosia 1061, Cyprus http://www.linkdesign.com Co. Waterford, Ireland Voice: +357-2-362 421 Voice: +353-51-386921 Fax: +357-2-362 429 We use FreeBSD Fax: +353-51-390880 --0-1681692777-888415051=:24091 Content-Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Comment: Requires PGP version 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBNPQjRcneSpf+YTVhAQGA4gQAp5QACBauBAfEk1h/8v1eVOW9M5qkKW8m sg7/Mz7J4OPVIAfhP2poKPi4M3uIrzZ5DFrwWIC8zHaQWLHp4CXwjPiGKVJLo+AN r0RpPnFb1d/pzJ6v9cmZx7vb5Rf5hcdiK5P8yGAGXm9SAteDVVSaqQ6i/XitIn4B vROkbCjAGxc= =52Ic -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --0-1681692777-888415051=:24091-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 08:21:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14410 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:21:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14400 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02804; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:20:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:20:44 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Michael.Bielicki@linkdesign.com cc: shredder@hack.babel.dk, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to defeat ppl using my host as spam relay? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199802251357.OAA14989@cyprus.vds.linkdesign.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-187688754-888423644=:1225" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-187688754-888423644=:1225 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Been there, seen that! You need 2 different filters. Check_rcpt and the ones that are in /etc/mail. The first will setup a filter so that email must either originate or terminate on your system (i.e. can't relay; an exception list is provided for). The second filter will allow you to filter annoying SPAM addressed to you by source domain and IP address. On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 Michael.Bielicki@linkdesign.com wrote: > On 25 Feb, chrw wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > One of my hosts is being used as a spam relay from an account at > > hotmail.com. I have contacted hotmail and the user that spams thru > > my sendmail (it didnt seem like a fake acct), with no luck. > > > > What I need is a rule in sendmail.cf so i can block mail from a certain > > domain, in this case hotmail.com. I dont have much experience with > > tweaking sendmail.cf, so I would be REALLY grateful, if someone can > > send me some using code to implement in my sendmail.cf .. I really > > want to act on this asap. I hope someone can help me out.. > > > > Im running sendmail 8.8.7. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Christoffer Walther > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Look into /usr/src/etc/mail > There is everything u need for a nearly perfect spamfilter :) > > -- > Michael Bielicki > Buisnetco Telecom. Ltd. Link Design International Ltd. > 13 Iras Str., Office 23 65, Cliff Rd, Tramore > Nicosia 1061, Cyprus http://www.linkdesign.com Co. Waterford, Ireland > Voice: +357-2-362 421 Voice: +353-51-386921 > Fax: +357-2-362 429 We use FreeBSD Fax: +353-51-390880 > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. 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(8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09594 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:08:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from satya@gho.st) Received: from localhost (satya@localhost) by ns1.netcorps.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08580 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: ns1.netcorps.com: satya owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) From: Satya Palani X-Sender: satya@ns1.netcorps.com Reply-To: Satya Palani To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSD crashes under load Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently, we've been having a large number of crashes on our FreeBSD 2.2.x web servers; unpleasant crashes, where someone has to come in and fix it at the console. Specifically, it's happening on our web-hosting machines (running either 2.2.1 or 2.2.5), each of which are hosting several hundred customers. The problem seems to be disk related. There is no panic message in the log (or any message, for that matter); the machines simply spontaneously reboot, fail the filesystem check, and drop into single-user mode. At this point, running fsck brings up a long list of duplicate inodes/files in the /usr slice. I would initially consider this to be problem with the drive; however, replacing the drive on one server didn't fix it, and another machine that was just added a week ago is starting to display this behavior as well. This sort of thing should not be happening on a brand-new drive. So, what it looks like to me: different processes are trying to write to the same disk sector and are killing the machine. Since we have a lot of customers ftp'ing their sites to the servers, there is a *lot* of disk activity going on, and I'm wondering if it's too much for FreeBSD to handle... Does the OS get confused if more than a few people are transfering data to or from it? Has anyone else experienced anything like this? We're using Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers and Quantum Atlas II drives, so I don't think hardware quality is an issue... Satya NetCorps To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 10:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15508 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15503 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 1938 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Feb 1998 18:41:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:41:31 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: Satya Palani cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What kind of motherboards, cpu's? How much memory? Something should go into the log if the kernel panics. The kernel should catch any exceptions and log them. However, if some device in the system pulls the RESET line low, that will cause the reboot. Any interesting devices in the system? What times does this occur? Could it be a power issue? Do you have shell accounts on that machine ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 11:42:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27735 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:42:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arnica.datanet.hu (arnica.datanet.hu [194.149.0.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27680 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from agdolla@datanet.hu) Received: from localhost (agdolla@localhost) by arnica.datanet.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20373; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:40:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: arnica.datanet.hu: agdolla owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:40:52 +0100 (NFT) From: Gabor Dolla To: Satya Palani cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Has anyone else experienced anything like this? We're using Adaptec 2940 > SCSI controllers and Quantum Atlas II drives, so I don't think hardware > quality is an issue... cvsup to 2.2-STABLE it will solve this or at least solved our problem best Gabor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 12:24:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07064 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:24:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07027 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:24:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05714 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:24:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:24:43 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Satya Palani wrote: > Recently, we've been having a large number of crashes on our FreeBSD 2.2.x > web servers; unpleasant crashes, where someone has to come in and fix it > at the console. Specifically, it's happening on our web-hosting machines > (running either 2.2.1 or 2.2.5), each of which are hosting several hundred > customers. Same here on 2.2.1-RELEASE. Twice in the last month. Slightly different symptoms. > > The problem seems to be disk related. There is no panic message in the > log (or any message, for that matter); the machines simply spontaneously > reboot, fail the filesystem check, and drop into single-user mode. At In contrast, we do get a kernel panic a message to the effect that the system will reboot in 15 seconds (which it does not, physical reset is required). But we do not have to go single user, although we should, but our filesystem corruption has not been as bad. > this point, running fsck brings up a long list of duplicate inodes/files > in the /usr slice. I would initially consider this to be problem with the Upon reboot, fsck spits out a list of dups and no other corruption serious enough to require manual response to fsck and everything comes back up fine. > drive; however, replacing the drive on one server didn't fix it, and > another machine that was just added a week ago is starting to display this > behavior as well. This sort of thing should not be happening on a > brand-new drive. > > So, what it looks like to me: different processes are trying to write to > the same disk sector and are killing the machine. Since we have a lot of > customers ftp'ing their sites to the servers, there is a *lot* of disk > activity going on, and I'm wondering if it's too much for FreeBSD to > handle... Does the OS get confused if more than a few people are > transfering data to or from it? I'm wondering if it's the latest Pentium bug causing the system to panic. We allow only very little shell/cgi activity on this server so we are looking for this but it's not a highly likely cause. Probably more likely to be marginally failing hardware somewhere on the system. Interesting this just started happening to both of us, so I decided to throw it out as another data point. > > Has anyone else experienced anything like this? We're using Adaptec 2940 > SCSI controllers and Quantum Atlas II drives, so I don't think hardware > quality is an issue... Same here, 2940UW with Seagate drives. I wish I could rely on a diagnostic program to actually check the RAM sticks. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 17:03:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16517 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:03:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mcd.deltron.net ([208.143.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16499 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulch@correo.dnet.com.pe) Received: by mcd.deltron.net from localhost (router,SLMail V2.6); Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:03:33 -0500 Received: by mcd.deltron.net from video.mcd.deltron.net (208.143.130.130::mail daemon; unverified,SLMail V2.6); Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:03:33 -0500 Message-ID: <34F4BF73.26300B67@correo.dnet.com.pe> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:03:47 -0500 From: Paul Chinen Organization: DIG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satya Palani CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had same problem last month, I was receiving a "land attack". I put a filter in my router. Have you patch your FreeBSD for land attack? Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 17:10:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17317 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from softplanners.com (jim@cx34060-c.msnv1.occa.home.com [24.2.126.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17225 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@softplanners.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by softplanners.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29490 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:09:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:09:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Henderson To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mirror software Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What software is used to create/sync ftp mirror sites? Please respond directly to me at jim@softplanners.com. Thanks! Jim Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 19:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14831 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from npc.haplink.com.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14819 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.com.cn (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24477 for isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:41:53 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:41:53 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199802261141.LAA24477@npc.haplink.com.cn> To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How many types of the To: line in a email? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am developing an email gateway program, that is distrubuting the incoming email to the right person according to the To: line in the incoming emails. But I find there are many types with the To: line like: " or xiyuan qian or xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn. Is there any RFC describing the right To: line's type? Best regaurds! --xiyuan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 21:12:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18015 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asa1.asan.com (asa1.asan.com [206.20.111.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17953 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bugtraq@asan.com) Received: from ppp147-1.asan.com (ppp147-1.asan.com [206.20.111.147]) by asa1.asan.com (NTMail 3.03.0016/1.aehb) with ESMTP id ta686861 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:11:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980226001042.0350fee0@asan.com> X-Sender: bugtraq@asan.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:10:42 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: WaiKin Wong Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:04 AM 2/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >The problem seems to be disk related. There is no panic message in the >log (or any message, for that matter); the machines simply spontaneously >reboot, fail the filesystem check, and drop into single-user mode. At >this point, running fsck brings up a long list of duplicate inodes/files >in the /usr slice. I would initially consider this to be problem with the >drive; however, replacing the drive on one server didn't fix it, and >another machine that was just added a week ago is starting to display this >behavior as well. This sort of thing should not be happening on a >brand-new drive. It might be a faulty motherboard. I had all of the following symptoms reported. It appeared to be disk related because the problems were more likely to be asserted by drive activity. Heat also caused problems by increasing likelyhood of reboots occuring. I've read that some motherboard manufacturers built boards that use capacitors and other components that can degrade over time. This may be why our machine functioned perfectly fine for months. And, even a motherboard swap caused continual problems. We eventually switched to a new board made by ASUS. The problems have stopped completely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 21:39:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22069 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:39:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from land.willinet.net (land.willinet.net [198.49.30.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22063 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:39:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tboellst@willinet.net) Received: (qmail 8561 invoked from network); 25 Feb 1998 23:31:11 -0600 Received: from ps59sux.willinet.net (HELO moe.splarg.org) (198.49.30.126) by land.willinet.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 1998 23:31:11 -0600 Message-ID: <000601bd4279$43063c00$02010c0a@moe.splarg.org> From: "Tyson Boellstorff" To: Subject: Re: BSD crashes under load Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:42:00 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >It might be a faulty motherboard. > >I've read that some motherboard manufacturers built boards that use >capacitors and other components that can degrade over time. This may be why >our machine functioned perfectly fine for months. I remember shipping a motherboard we called the "Red Green" motherboard due to doublesided tape holding a crystal to the board. (I know, it's not duct tape, but it's close enough for me) That board encountered odd problems due to what we felt was an inadequate ground on the canister of the crystal. In fact the "Red Green" board did prove itself over time in corporate environments, and the odd problems were finally attributed to operator error. As to degrading over time, well, we all degrade over time. I'm degrading as I write this. ;-) The real question is whether the board will fail prematurely. I am not overly sympathetic to people who have problems with 5 year old hardware, but sympathy increases as age decreases. A 3 year old board should (that's _should_, and not _will_) be a reliable piece of hardware. A 1 year old board should take anything you can throw at it. >And, even a motherboard >swap caused continual problems. > Check your power supply. Not all power supplies are created equal, and they almost always have components that degrade over time, including fans and electrolytic capacitors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 25 22:00:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25219 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.iconz.co.nz (mail.iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25206 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (a.mcn.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.128]) by mail.iconz.co.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA160940888472561; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:56:01 +1300 (NZDT) X-Sender: squiz1@pop.actrix.gen.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:57:38 +1300 To: xiyuan qian From: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton) Subject: Re: How many types of the To: line in a email? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Received: by mail.actrix.gen.nz for squiz1 > (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Thu Feb 26 18:38:34 1998) >X-From_: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 26 16:43:14 1998 >Return-Path: >Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13117 > for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:43:08 +1300 (NZDT) >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15572; > Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:38:03 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:34:52 >-0800 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14831 > for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:34:52 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) >Received: from npc.haplink.com.cn ([202.96.192.53]) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14819 > for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:34:47 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn) >Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) > by npc.haplink.com.cn (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24477 > for isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:41:53 GMT >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:41:53 GMT >From: xiyuan qian >Message-Id: <199802261141.LAA24477@npc.haplink.com.cn> >To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: How many types of the To: line in a email? >Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Hi, I am developing an email gateway program, that is distrubuting the incoming >email to the right person according to the To: line in the incoming emails. >But I find there are many types with the To: line like: "@npc.haplink.com.cn> or xiyuan qian"\"xiyuan qian\"" or xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn. >Is there any RFC describing the right To: line's type? > >Best regaurds! > >--xiyuan I regularly get people writing to me complaining they don't get mailings form a commercial mailing list I run. These almost always turn out to be a result of people running mail gateways using the To: header. Be aware that this header is not always useful. For instance, your mail as I recieved it through the mailing list said To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG look for information in the Received headers, added by sendmail. Eg: Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13117 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:43:08 +1300 (NZDT) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You can find a specification of mail formats in RFC's 821 and 822. You're probably better off though to find some perl code for the purpose. look in CPAN, or possibly the majordomo code. It's a fundamentally awkward problem though, since there exist legal undeliverable mail addresses, and illegal deliverable ones. Think first though what it is you want to do that is not already done by sendmail, or by fetchmail working with procmail. If there's really some functionality you need that's not in these products, it would probably be better to look at adding it to the existing code, and possibly submitting it for others to use. Andrew McNaughton The effort to understand the universe is Andrew McNaughton one of the very few things that lifts ++64 4 389 6891 human life above the level of farce, andrew@squiz.co.nz and gives it some of the grace http://www.squiz.co.nz of tragedy - Steven Weinberg http://www.newsroom.co.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 04:06:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08267 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08262 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@fastnet.co.uk) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA14847 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:05:01 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:05:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Jay Tribick X-Sender: lists@ns0.fast.net.uk To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Qpopper (POP3 Daemons..) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All.. I'm currently using qpopper but some of my users have experienced problems with client's like Internet Mail & Eudora when they're downloading large attachments (1meg+). Is this a known bug with qpopper or is the problem likely to be hardware-oriented? I'm using a USR Total Control Chassis with X2/K56Flex modems in it and haven't had any problems with any other services timing out / disconnecting client's. Thanks in advance, KrOnUs .--------------------=:=----------------------. Jay Tribick | Network Administrator FastNet International Ltd | http://www.fastnet.co.uk/ PGP Key Available | Finger netadmin@fastnet.co.uk : Tel: +44 (0)1273 677633 . Fax: +44 (0)1273 621631 FastNet International Ltd - The User-Friendly Internet Provider To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 05:27:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17975 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17962 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 05:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10831; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:31:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:31:21 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199802261331.IAA10831@sabre.goldsword.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, kbrown@primelink.com Subject: Re: Cabling specifications worksheet Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:39:05 -0600 Kevin Brown said: >I am looking for some "official" documentation regarding wiring standards >for category 3, 4, 5 cabling. I have looked at the IEEE website, but seem >to only find their operations charters for different projects. > >If anyone should have such a document, or know where to find one, it would >be greatly appreciated if you would provide me with directions on where to >find it. I would start with the comp.dcom.cabling FAQ at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/LANs/cabling-faq/faq.html or ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.dcom.cabling/ Data_Communications_Cabling_FAQ It hasn't been updated in some time, I think that those involved have been overwloaded with other work... Then follow up with the following URLs: http://wwwhost.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ http://www.industry.net/tia http://www.eia.org/ http://www.andrewboon.com.au/html/BOONSCS1.html http://web.syr.edu/~jmwobus/lans/ The actual wiring standards/specifications are not available on the net as far as I know (ANSI, IEEE, EIA, etc. all derive some chunk of their support income from document sales...) Let me know if you need any more info. I have a ton of stuff (papers, elec. files, URLs, etc.) crammed away here. Some of it is actually useful! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee Office: (423)691-6498 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 08:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08795 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08790 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@fastnet.co.uk) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA17815 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:01:23 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:01:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Jay Tribick X-Sender: lists@ns0.fast.net.uk To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Qpopper (The Sequel) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All.. I know this has been covered before, I've checked the archives but I'm getting the (now) infamous qpopper canonical name error.. What I need to know is if I can get qpopper to log the IP address of the host that's connecting, the manual pages don't help and trace & debug don't yield enough information. The trouble is, the mail server we're having this canonical name error on has a *lot* of users collecting POP3 mail so doing a grep through /var/log/maillog doesn't give me any clues. Thanks in advance, KrOnUs . .--------------------=:=----------------------. Jay Tribick | Network Administrator FastNet International Ltd | http://www.fastnet.co.uk/ PGP Key Available | Finger netadmin@fastnet.co.uk : Tel: +44 (0)1273 677633 . Fax: +44 (0)1273 621631 FastNet International Ltd - The User-Friendly Internet Provider To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 09:12:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18231 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:12:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18226 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA06029; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:12:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from news) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:11:54 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DoS attacks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having a peculiar problem with my router, and have begun to believe that it is the result of some form of DoS attack. At seemingly random intervals (usually late at night), my router would stop talking to my upstream feed. In order to fix the problem , I would have to tell it to hangup it's ISDN connection, at which point it would dial back in and everything would work for a couple of days. To help fix the problem, I wrote a small shell script which connected to my router and did the hangup automatically. This was run once a night and the problem seemed to go away (I picked a time a few minutes after the latest time I had gotten the problem). After this script was implemented, I started to receive the lockups during the day occassionally. So, being the industrious person I am, I modified the perl script to run all the time, and monitor the ping statistics inside my router (It's a truly ugly state machine by the way). Anyway, I am now at the point where I can recover within about 30 seconds of a lockup, I could be faster but I don't want to tie up my line with pings. To make a long story shorter, I am now receiving these lockups at a rate of about 1.5 in every 10 minute interval. Connections to down-stream sites from me are not suffering this problem, only my connection to the Internet, so I don't think it is the router. I have checked Ascend, and I have the latest firmware for the unit. Any suggestions? brian BTW> This is a Max200Plus router (kinda like a red-headed step-child out at Ascend, but it worked great for several months before this started). +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 11:57:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13209 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:57:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12880 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00705; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:38:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Jay Tribick cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Qpopper (The Sequel) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:01:23 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:38:08 -0500 Message-ID: <701.888521888@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jay Tribick wrote in message ID : > I know this has been covered before, I've checked the archives but > I'm getting the (now) infamous qpopper canonical name error.. Never seen that one myself > What I need to know is if I can get qpopper to log the IP address > of the host that's connecting, the manual pages don't help and > trace & debug don't yield enough information. This probably isn't the answer you are looking for, but the src code is available and hackable :) (I know, I've been optimizing it for the environment at work...) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 12:50:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21455 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21447 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:50:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA30610; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:17 -0600 (CST) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199802262050.OAA30610@fly.HiWAAY.net> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, lists@fastnet.co.uk Subject: Re: Qpopper (The Sequel) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jay Tribick writes: > > I know this has been covered before, I've checked the archives but > I'm getting the (now) infamous qpopper canonical name error.. > > What I need to know is if I can get qpopper to log the IP address > of the host that's connecting, the manual pages don't help and > trace & debug don't yield enough information. > > The trouble is, the mail server we're having this canonical name > error on has a *lot* of users collecting POP3 mail so doing > a grep through /var/log/maillog doesn't give me any > clues. I added "#ifdef CANONICAL_VERBOSE" to my qpopper like this. Once Upon A Time in an earlier version I altered this pop_log() to print the numeric IP address. Recently decided I didn't care. pop_init.c: /* Get the canonical name of the host to whom I am speaking */ ch = gethostbyaddr((char *) &cs.sin_addr, sizeof(cs.sin_addr), AF_INET); if (ch == NULL){ #ifdef CANONICAL_VERBOSE pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY, "(v%s) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = %d", VERSION, errno); #endif p->client = p->ipaddr; } -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 16:07:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29683 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.scitec.com.au (firewall-user@fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29613 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:06:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id LAA11644; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:06:41 +1100 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma011635; Fri, 27 Feb 98 11:06:35 +1100 Received: from hydra.scitec.com.au (hydra.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.101]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA23212; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:06:29 +1100 Received: from scitec.com.au (saruman.scitec.com.au) by hydra.scitec.com.au with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA136127984; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:06:24 +1100 Message-Id: <34F6036F.BA02824@scitec.com.au> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:06:07 +1100 From: John Saunders Organization: SCITEC LIMITED X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Tribick Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Qpopper (POP3 Daemons..) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jay Tribick wrote: > I'm currently using qpopper but some of my users have experienced problems > with client's like Internet Mail & Eudora when they're downloading large > attachments (1meg+). I've also experienced this with several customer. But when I checked the mailbox it'e been fine. And when I've tested downloading using Win95 and IE3.03, IE4.01 and Netscape 4.04 it worked. So, to my way of thinking, the problem is at the customers end. > Is this a known bug with qpopper or is the problem likely to be > hardware-oriented? I'm using a USR Total Control Chassis with X2/K56Flex > modems in it and haven't had any problems with any other services > timing out / disconnecting client's. I've put it down to old buggy versions of customer software. Most customers were able to get past the problem by updating the software to a later version. One particularly difficult case was a Mac using Eudora, in the end we found out that doing some other activity over the link while the email is downloading kept things working. Otherwise the mail fetch which just hang mid message. They were running some old version of Eudora and didn't want to upgrade (some customers tend to be a bit strange in this regard). Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au (Work) | ,--_|\ | mailto:john@nlc.net.au (Home) | / Oz \ | http://www.nlc.net.au/~john/ | \_,--\_/ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61 2 9428 9563 Fax +61 2 9428 9933 | v | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 23:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12257 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:29:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12250 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:29:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id IAA23723 for isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:15:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA01407; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:07:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227080719.24948@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 08:07:19 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sendmail virtusertable, do I need cw file as well ? Is NIS ok ? Reply-To: aklemm@hightek.com, andreas@klemm.gtn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Does sendmail still need a sendmail.cw file, if I'm using the virtuser table ? Let's say, I have a mail gateway machine mail.my.dom. And this machine should be the pop server for user1@virtdom1.main user2@virtdom2.main user3@virtdom3.main Do I have to tell sendmail in the /etc/sendmail.cw file, that he accepts mail for virtdom1.main virtdom2.main virtdom3.main And then the virtuser feature allows me to redirect the users like user1@virtdom1.main user1@mail.my.dom user2@virtdom1.main user2@mail.my.dom or user3@virtdom1.main user3@mail2.my.dom Would you choose a separate machine as mailin/mailout ? With virtuser and generics table ? And then one or several machines for the pop accounts ? If users should get a ftp account and some webspace as well, would you then configure them on one machine, which acts as a mail/pop / ftp / www server ? Or would you put 3500 pop user onto one machine and ftp/apache onto another machine ? The point is, I'm not sure if I can safely use NIS to distribute the user accounts between several machines. And creating/managing the passwd file on several machines looks odd ... What experiences do you have using NIS in an ISP environment ? Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 26 23:42:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13730 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uranus.planet-three.com (homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13725 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by uranus.planet-three.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA12234; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:41:57 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 07:41:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: aklemm@hightek.com, andreas@klemm.gtn.com cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable, do I need cw file as well ? Is NIS ok ? In-Reply-To: <19980227080719.24948@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Does sendmail still need a sendmail.cw file, if I'm using the > virtuser table ? Yes it does. The real point of virtuser as far as I'm concerned, is to make it easy to have, say - scot@poptart.org and scot@planet-three.com go to different mail-drops on the same machine. I personally have a seperat virtuser file for each mail domain I hold, say: virtuser-poptart: scot@poptart.org scot virtuser-planet: scot@planet-three.com s2 and then I have a newaliases shell script that builds a large virtuser from these smaller ones. Just easier to manage that way. The annoying thing though, is that the RHS of the alias has to be a single address - you can't specify multiple accounts as you would with /etc/aliases. And generics is a good idea if either: 1. Your users send mail from a shall account - sendmail maps their usernames to email address. 2. Your users use something like Eudora, which doesn't discriminate between POP-account and E-mailaddress... Eudora sets From lines to the pop-account address. Of course this won't work if they use someone else's SMTP server. > The point is, I'm not sure if I can safely use NIS to distribute > the user accounts between several machines. And creating/managing > the passwd file on several machines looks odd ... Don't be put off by Kerberos... I was surprised how easy it really is to set up. Yours Scot. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 00:40:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19421 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:40:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19413 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA3531; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:41:12 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18650; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:40:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227094016.02243@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:40:16 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Scot Elliott , aklemm@hightek.com, andreas@klemm.gtn.com Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable, do I need cw file as well ? Is NIS ok ? References: <19980227080719.24948@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Scot Elliott on Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 07:41:57AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 07:41:57AM +0000, Scot Elliott wrote: > On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > Does sendmail still need a sendmail.cw file, if I'm using the > > virtuser table ? > > Yes it does. Thanks for confirmation. > The real point of virtuser as far as I'm concerned, is to make it easy to > have, say - scot@poptart.org and scot@planet-three.com go to different > mail-drops on the same machine. I personally have a seperat virtuser file > for each mail domain I hold, say: > > virtuser-poptart: > scot@poptart.org scot > > virtuser-planet: > scot@planet-three.com s2 > > and then I have a newaliases shell script that builds a large virtuser > from these smaller ones. Just easier to manage that way. The annoying > thing though, is that the RHS of the alias has to be a single address - > you can't specify multiple accounts as you would with /etc/aliases. Aah, good to know ;-) Ok, but I think it's sufficient this way. > And generics is a good idea if either: 1. Your users send mail from a > shall account - sendmail maps their usernames to email address. You mean the users from a virtual domain, who have a shell account... Otherwise they would get the domain name of the server where they are logged in... So they get the correct domain in their From: ... > 2. Your users use something like Eudora, which doesn't discriminate > between POP-account and E-mailaddress... Eudora sets From lines to the > pop-account address. Of course this won't work if they use someone else's > SMTP server. I don't see the point here, sorry. Example please (I got to get a cup of coffie...) > > The point is, I'm not sure if I can safely use NIS to distribute > > the user accounts between several machines. And creating/managing > > the passwd file on several machines looks odd ... > > Don't be put off by Kerberos... I was surprised how easy it really is to > set up. But I think I will need real user accounts for people on such a thing like a pop server. How would I get it managed with kerberos ??? I think kerberos only does authorization in a secure manner. Here I surely need some additional things for a pop / ftp account, or ??? Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 01:14:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22517 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:14:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22512 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:14:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA3889 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:15:25 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19023; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227101428.38630@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:14:28 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Which pop3 and imap server to take from ports collection ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What pop/imap servers are stable and perform well ? imap-uw from Washington university ??? Or is popper recommended for use for pop2/3 ? Using popper at home always showed me some strange warnings on the console, related to something like "I don't understand the clients xyz command" ... Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 01:28:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23601 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:28:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23594 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:28:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA4152 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:28:55 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19197; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:27:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227102759.14758@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:27:59 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sendmails generics table doesn't burn, need a tip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I have this test environment running on my local machine klemm2.hightek.com divert(-1) divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$Id: klemm2.mc 1.1 1998/02/11 andreas Exp $') OSTYPE(bsd4.4) define(`SMART_HOST', smtp8:mail.hightek.com) MASQUERADE_AS(hightek.com) FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl FEATURE(virtusertable,`hash -o /etc/virtusertable')dnl FEATURE(genericstable,`hash -o /etc/genericstable')dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl When I write mail as andreas to myself I hoped, that the genericstable feature would allow me to modify my from from andreas to aklemm@aconet.de My genericstable looks like this and I correctly build the hash database. # makemap hash /etc/genericstable < /etc/genericstable andreas aklemm@aconet.de Can you figure out, why my From: is still not being rewritten by genericstable ???? The mail header I receive looks like this: >From andreas@klemm2.hightek.com Fri Feb 27 10:25:50 1998 ^^^^^^^ this is my local account ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is my machines fqdn Return-Path: Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is our Netscape Mail Server and my SMARTHOST by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19191 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:25:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA4118 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:26:43 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19186; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:25:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227102546.55197@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:25:46 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: aklemm@hightek.com Subject: Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Thanks ! -- Andreas Klemm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 02:08:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29666 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:08:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newserv.urc.ac.ru (newserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29623 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:08:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Received: from urc.ac.ru (y.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.37]) by newserv.urc.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25312; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:05:40 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <34F68FF3.8D134FB1@urc.ac.ru> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:05:39 +0500 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: South Ural Center of FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Klemm CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which pop3 and imap server to take from ports collection ? References: <19980227101428.38630@hightek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andreas Klemm wrote: > > What pop/imap servers are stable and perform well ? > > imap-uw from Washington university ??? > > Or is popper recommended for use for pop2/3 ? > There is also Cyrus (imap + pop3). I took an interest in it, because I needed IMAP, and had security and stability problems with imap-uw. It seems to be more powerful and secure than imap-uw. I have installed it at my server a month ago. Works fine. [ If somebody got problems with Cyrus, please tell me. ] One disadvantage (at the first look) is uncompatible format of mailboxes. Our users had to migrate to Cyrus server from imap-uw on antoher host by first moving their mail folders to local hosts, then to Cyrus server. But Cyrus provides creation of shareable mail folders with very flexible access permissions - great advantage for collaboration, as I think. It can be integrated easily into distribution's sendmail by few lines in .mc file. And what I liked most is Cyrus' ability to trace IMAP protocol on session basis. It was incredibly helpful while setting up Netscape Communicator and Pine IMAP clients to work with IMAP server. By the way, a question on another side of IMAP: have anybody set up Netscape Communicator (Mail) under UNIX to work wuth IMAP server? I have failed with NC 4.04-Release for FreeBSD and Solaris 2.4, with both imap-uw and Cyrus. NC for Windows works almost fine. -- Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, Joy@urc.ac.ru Chelyabinsk, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 02:10:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29850 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:10:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29833 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA4757; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:11:20 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21426; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:10:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227111023.37992@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:10:23 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Konstantin Chuguev , Andreas Klemm Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which pop3 and imap server to take from ports collection ? References: <19980227101428.38630@hightek.com> <34F68FF3.8D134FB1@urc.ac.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <34F68FF3.8D134FB1@urc.ac.ru>; from Konstantin Chuguev on Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 03:05:39PM +0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 03:05:39PM +0500, Konstantin Chuguev wrote: > [...cyrus...] > It seems to be more powerful and secure than imap-uw. Ok, thanks, will have a look at it... > And what I liked most is Cyrus' ability to trace IMAP protocol > on session basis. It was incredibly helpful while setting up > Netscape Communicator and Pine IMAP clients to work with IMAP server. Ah. > By the way, a question on another side of IMAP: have anybody set up > Netscape Communicator (Mail) under UNIX to work wuth IMAP server? Yes, at home it works for me. > I have failed with NC 4.04-Release for FreeBSD and Solaris 2.4, with both > imap-uw and Cyrus. ??? -- Andreas Klemm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 02:20:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00912 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sun-test.hightek.com (sun-test.hightek.com [194.74.141.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00890 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 02:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm2.hightek.com) Received: from klemm2.hightek.com ([195.90.203.76]) by sun-test.hightek.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA4940; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:20:47 +0200 Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm2.hightek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21630; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:19:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19980227111950.54767@hightek.com> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:19:50 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Andreas Klemm , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmails generics table doesn't burn, need a tip References: <19980227102759.14758@hightek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980227102759.14758@hightek.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 10:27:59AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 10:27:59AM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > [ problems to get genericstable working ] I have solved the first part myself... I was missing FEATURE(always_add_domain) Sender rewriting now is ok for local and outgoing mails using /bin/mail. This doesn't work for clients, that set their From: already in the mail client configuration. my .muttrc defines the following: my_hdr From: Andreas Klemm Why is this From: not being rewritten by the genericstable feature ??? Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 03:48:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08270 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 03:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newserv.urc.ac.ru (newserv.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08175 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 03:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Received: from urc.ac.ru (y.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.37]) by newserv.urc.ac.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26316; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:44:52 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from joy@urc.ac.ru) Message-ID: <34F6A734.94E06A80@urc.ac.ru> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:44:52 +0500 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: South Ural Center of FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Klemm CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which pop3 and imap server to take from ports collection ? References: <19980227101428.38630@hightek.com> <34F68FF3.8D134FB1@urc.ac.ru> <19980227111023.37992@hightek.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andreas Klemm wrote: > > ? By the way, a question on another side of IMAP: have anybody set up > ? Netscape Communicator (Mail) under UNIX to work wuth IMAP server? > > Yes, at home it works for me. > > ? I have failed with NC 4.04-Release for FreeBSD and Solaris 2.4, with both > ? imap-uw and Cyrus. > > ??? > Any mail folder name I set in Netscape (by creating a new subfolder, moving letters or folders to other folders etc.) changes by Netscape Mail to "???..." (each letter and dot changes to one ?(question) sign). This happens before transmitting a request to the IMAP server. I'm not sure, but it looks like a problem with localization. I use LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R and MM_CHARSET=koi8-r, and Netscape app-default file tuned for koi8-r. But I did try with both variables unset (that is with LANG=C). The same result :-( While Netscape sources are closed, I even don't know, where to search for solution. Anybody uses localized UNIX Netscape Mail as IMAP client? Thanks. -- Konstantin V. Chuguev. System administrator of Ural Regional Center of FREEnet, Joy@urc.ac.ru Chelyabinsk, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 04:06:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11006 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10988 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:06:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@fastnet.co.uk) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA29027 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:05:02 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:05:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Jay Tribick X-Sender: lists@ns0.fast.net.uk To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any alternatives to NFS? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all.. Are there any alternatives to mounting file systems over a network other than NFS? Is NFS stable enough (with the recent advent of bsd locking) to be used on a clustered mail/web etc. server? Regards, . .--------------------=:=----------------------. Jay Tribick | Network Administrator FastNet International Ltd | http://www.fastnet.co.uk/ PGP Key Available | Finger netadmin@fastnet.co.uk : Tel: +44 (0)1273 677633 . Fax: +44 (0)1273 621631 FastNet International Ltd - The User-Friendly Internet Provider To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 15:23:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24558 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (tweetie-pipex.online.barbour-index.co.uk [194.129.192.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24423 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00374 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:22:23 GMT (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:22:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Process sizes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I know this probably belongs to a more general group but Im not sure where.... I just installed PHP v3 on our web server. Now the apache binary is over twice what it was before - fair enough because it's got a lot of extra code, right. The question I have, is weather the OS is clever enough to only have one copy of all this code in memory, of whether each apache process that is running has its own copy - in which case I'll have to consider upgrading the RAM in the machine. I realise that shared libraries only have one coy in memory but I just can't find anything that tells me how FreeBSD copes with shared code segments. Thanks a lot in advance. Scot. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)1344 899401 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 17:04:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10199 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:04:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from srv.net (snake.srv.net [199.104.81.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10086; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cmott@srv.net) Received: from darkstar.home (ras604.srv.net [205.180.127.104]) by srv.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08506; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:04:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:03:27 -0700 (MST) From: Charles Mott X-Sender: cmott@darkstar.home To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CSU/DSU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any CSU/DSU modules that plug into an ISA or PCI slot? My basic interest is getting a T-1 (DS-1, actually) connection using FreeBSD as the router. The CSU/DSU units I have seen communicate with a router via a synchronous serial connection. Are there any economical interface cards designed to receive a 1.5 megabit/sec synchronous connection? Are standard UARTs capable of this? Charles Mott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 17:24:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14393 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:24:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14384 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tli@juniper.net) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19314; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA02427; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:23:36 -0800 (PST) To: cmott@srv.net (Charles Mott) cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CSU/DSU References: From: Tony Li Date: 27 Feb 1998 17:23:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: cmott@srv.net's message of 28 Feb 98 01:03:27 GMT Message-ID: <82ogzsy12f.fsf@chimp.juniper.net> Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org cmott@srv.net (Charles Mott) writes: > Are there any CSU/DSU modules that plug into an ISA or PCI slot? My basic > interest is getting a T-1 (DS-1, actually) connection using FreeBSD as the > router. > > The CSU/DSU units I have seen communicate with a router via a synchronous > serial connection. Are there any economical interface cards designed to > receive a 1.5 megabit/sec synchronous connection? Are standard UARTs > capable of this? I recommend SDL's T1 card: www.sdlcomm.com It does not include CSU/DSU support, but for that I prefer an external unit anyway. My recommendation there is ADC Kentrox Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 17:40:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17924 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:40:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17877 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA21899; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:39:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:39:34 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey To: Tony Li cc: Charles Mott , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CSU/DSU In-Reply-To: <82ogzsy12f.fsf@chimp.juniper.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Are there any CSU/DSU modules that plug into an ISA or PCI slot? My basic > > interest is getting a T-1 (DS-1, actually) connection using FreeBSD as the > > router. > > > > The CSU/DSU units I have seen communicate with a router via a synchronous > > serial connection. Are there any economical interface cards designed to > > receive a 1.5 megabit/sec synchronous connection? Are standard UARTs > > capable of this? > > I recommend SDL's T1 card: www.sdlcomm.com We use Emerging Technologie's 4 port PCI card. It works great. I believe it is also cheaper, but they expect you know what you are doing. Technical support is pretty mimimal, and once you have one card working.. thats it. www.etinc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 20:32:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18250 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:32:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from srv.net (snake.srv.net [199.104.81.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18227 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cmott@srv.net) Received: from darkstar.home (ras551.srv.net [205.180.127.51]) by srv.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24506; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:31:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:31:18 -0700 (MST) From: Charles Mott X-Sender: cmott@darkstar.home To: Shawn Ramsey cc: Tony Li , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CSU/DSU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > > Are there any CSU/DSU modules that plug into an ISA or PCI slot? My basic > > > interest is getting a T-1 (DS-1, actually) connection using FreeBSD as the > > > router. > > > > > > The CSU/DSU units I have seen communicate with a router via a synchronous > > > serial connection. Are there any economical interface cards designed to > > > receive a 1.5 megabit/sec synchronous connection? Are standard UARTs > > > capable of this? > > > > I recommend SDL's T1 card: www.sdlcomm.com > > We use Emerging Technologie's 4 port PCI card. It works great. I believe > it is also cheaper, but they expect you know what you are doing. Technical > support is pretty mimimal, and once you have one card working.. thats it. > > www.etinc.com > Thanks for both suggestions. Where would I look in the FreeBSD source tree to find the drivers for these cards? As far an integrated CSU/DSU, I am willing to gamble a little here -- assuming I can probably borrow something like a Kentrox to initially test the line and understand the various encoding options (all the B8ZS and related stuff is a little scary to newcomers). Charles Mott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 21:04:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20761 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20745 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA29401 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:04:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <001401bd4406$4af366c0$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Subject: Re: CSU/DSU Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:04:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Charles Mott >> >> www.etinc.com >> > >Thanks for both suggestions. Where would I look in the FreeBSD source >tree to find the drivers for these cards? Emerging Technologies provides the drivers in binary form only (no sources). They have a script that installs the object file into the source tree. Then you have to add their files.i386 file to the end of /sys/i386/conf/files.i386. Add the appropriate driver line to your config file, and remake your kernel. Also, it is best if you create /etc/start_if.{interface} files to bring up the lines. If you go with the ET board let me know and I'll send you my script files. Scot Hetzel West Bend Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 21:53:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25599 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from red.juniper.net (red.juniper.net [208.197.169.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25594 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:53:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tli@juniper.net) Received: from chimp.juniper.net (chimp.juniper.net [208.197.169.196]) by red.juniper.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23441; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.juniper.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id VAA02986; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:52:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:52:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802280552.VAA02986@chimp.juniper.net> From: Tony Li To: cmott@srv.net CC: shawn@luke.cpl.net, tli@juniper.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Charles Mott on Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:31:18 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: CSU/DSU Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Thanks for both suggestions. Where would I look in the FreeBSD source | tree to find the drivers for these cards? /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/if_sr.c Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 27 23:51:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08695 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:51:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from birdland.rhein-neckar.de (root@birdland.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.88.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08684 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@birdland.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from localhost (bsd@localhost) by birdland.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA29106; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:51:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:51:06 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Jangowski To: Jay Tribick cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Qpopper (The Sequel) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jay Tribick wrote: > What I need to know is if I can get qpopper to log the IP address > of the host that's connecting, the manual pages don't help and > trace & debug don't yield enough information. I had the same problem, and I patched popper to log the IP adress, too. Sorry, I can't give you a diff, the version I have here is pretty old.. You habe to modify the file pop_init.c around line 277, it's a call to pop_log(). Originally, popper writes something like "Can't get canonical name of client" without giving the IP, I added a "%s" and "p->ipaddress" to print the IP adress of the connected client. Hope this helps, YMMV as usual. Martin | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Fax: +49 621/53 95 07 | | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 D-67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | | RNInet e.V. Rhein-Neckar Internet | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 28 02:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21050 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21044 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:24:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21906; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 04:24:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <001f01bd4433$002cd180$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Cc: Subject: Re: CSU/DSU Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 04:24:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BD4400.B50C1A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BD4400.B50C1A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Incase somebody wants my scripts, I have cc'd the list. -----Original Message----- From: Elliot Finley On Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:04:04 -0600, you wrote: Could I have a copy of your script files also? I'm trying to set up my ET board... Any help would be greatly appreciated.. > Attached are my scripts, to set up the ET board for frame relay. The steps I take to set up my board are as follows: 1. un tar the drivers. 2. run the update script from /usr/hdlc/dev 3. run /usr/hdlc/files.sh - it appends /usr/hdlc/dev/files.i386 to the /sys/i386/conf/files.i386 file. 4. add "device eth0" to the kernel config file. 5. compile a new kernel 6. add the entries for eth{port} and etha{DLCI} to rc.conf 7. copy start_if.eth0 to start_if.eth[0-3], one per port 8. edit start_if.eth[0-3] to set the port number, and specify the *.cfg file. If using Frame Relay: 9. copy start_if.etha100 to start_if.eth[a-d]{DLCI} 10. add eth[0-3] and/or eth[a-d]{DLCI} to the rc.conf file I have enclosed a sample rc.conf.sample file. NOTE: If you use cvsup to update the sources, it will wipe out the change made to files.i386, just run files.sh after a cvsup update, or before building the kernel. 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References: <34F1A965.91216119@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benedikt Stockebrand Date: 28 Feb 1998 13:48:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: Karl Pielorz's message of "Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:52:53 +0000" Message-ID: <87afbbrj3j.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz writes: > Are there any better facilities for logging mail stats other than the > 'mailstats' command under FreeBSD / Sendmail? > > I'm running 2.2.5-RELEASE and I'd like to be able to get some idea of the > amount of mail my users are sending (i.e. total k per user) - rather than the > Grand total for Local / ESMTP / SMTP etc. (which is still pretty handy...) I don't use sendmail, so this is only a guess. But unless I'm totally mistaken there's lots of logging data sent to syslog about this. Consider some simple sed/awk/perl/whatever script to do this. Mind the possibility of spoofing, though. Ben -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand --- Un*x system administrator looking for a job To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 28 10:20:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03411 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03404; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:20:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0y8qbH-0006xn-00; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:03:03 -0800 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:03:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Charles Mott cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CSU/DSU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Charles Mott wrote: > Are there any CSU/DSU modules that plug into an ISA or PCI slot? My basic > interest is getting a T-1 (DS-1, actually) connection using FreeBSD as the > router. > > The CSU/DSU units I have seen communicate with a router via a synchronous > serial connection. Are there any economical interface cards designed to > receive a 1.5 megabit/sec synchronous connection? Are standard UARTs > capable of this? You can get high speed sync cards for FreeBSD at http://www.etinc.com. Also, cards supported by the ar(4) driver, and the cx(4) driver. "Standard" UARTs are not capable of sync operation. A typical sync card will do PPP framing for you, so you need a specialized driver to send packets to the card. I think USR/3COM makes a card with a built in DSU. It is not supported under FreeBSD though. Integrated DSUs can be a pain. They almost never give you as much info as a real DSU. > Charles Mott Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 28 12:02:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13868 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 12:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cam.grad.kiev.ua (grad-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13810 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 12:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.kiev.ua) Received: from Shevchenko.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cam.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07612 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:01:15 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <34F86D07.6787461F@Shevchenko.kiev.ua> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:01:12 +0200 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DOS attack problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was effective attacked by Deny Of Servise attack. I have 28.8 ppp permanent link on provider, run user-level ppp from 98.01 wih -alias. During attack, I was have many incoming trafic in modem, but, after I shutdown named, sendmail, http .. tcpdump -i tun0 show me nothing. (With big traffic in modem). My provider (Ukrtelecom) now have problems with reorganization, and all routes there work in automatic mode, people are absent. After rebooting Ukrtelecom CISCO by sending large broadcast echo, all work fine, but at next random amount of time I have the same situation. I run 2.2.5-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Thu Dec 25 07:30:52 GMT 1997 So, anybody known: is this known attack ?, if yes: is this problem is fixed in -stable now ?, if no: how I can to debug situation. (by monitoring tools or inserting printfs in libpcap source code ) Thanks for help and sorry for poor english. -- @= //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 28 20:41:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08606 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from daffy.sna.com (daffy.sna.com [204.119.128.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08601 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@sna.com) Received: from sna.com (bsd.sna.com [204.119.141.41]) by daffy.sna.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16471 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:33:57 -0800 (PST) X-Real-To: Message-ID: <34F98D0C.C6FF859D@sna.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 08:30:04 -0800 From: Sergo Panfilov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 28 23:07:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03131 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:07:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ariel.dimpex.com.au (qmailr@dimpex.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03119 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apk@dimpex.com.au) Received: (qmail 14652 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Mar 1998 18:05:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:05:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Kaszubski To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re radius for all services Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just wondering whether anybody has thought of/ developed a system by which a radius server could log and authenticate users and bypass having seperate password files for different services. (ie even have login verify from a radius server.) This would make managing some networks that much easier. Just a thought Regards Andrew Kaszubski apk@dimpex.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message