From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 09:39:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28921 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bsd01.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28912 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpb@community.net.uk) Received: from rpb ([195.72.161.26]) by bsd01.community.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10052 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:39:12 +0100 (BST) From: "Ray Bellis" To: Subject: Load balancing across 2 E1s? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:36:14 +0100 Message-ID: <004501bdb3fc$82f0edc0$1aa148c3@rpb.community.net.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've an application where a customer wants to connect together two networks with a microwave link, where the microwave link is terminated as two G.703 E1 (2Mbps) circuits in parallel. I hope to use G.703 to X.21 convertors to interface the circuits to PCI synchronous cards in a system running FreeBSD. Is it possible to make FreeBSD load balance across the two circuits to give the expected 4Mbps circuit, or will I need to use hardware muxes (and then find a 4Mbps G.703 to V.35 convertor)? thanks, Ray. -- Ray Bellis, MA(Oxon) - Technical Director - Oxford CommUnity Internet plc Windsor House, 12 High Street, Kidlington, OXFORD OX5 2PJ UK Telephone: +44-1865-856000 Fax: +44-1865-856001 Email: ray.bellis@community.net.uk URL: http://www.community.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 10:05:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02557 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (root@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02551 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21298 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:05:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:05:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon X-Sender: cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems getting ppp to work with moronic ISP. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm attempting to set up a NAT box that dials one of our local ISP's here so that one of our buildings (who are not yet part of our main network) can do the Internet-thing. Before you ask, yes, I have thought about setting up a dialin server at our main location and connecting that way, but funds for that aren't coming until later on this fall, and by that time we'll have fiber run to the building in question and this won't matter anyway. I've used iijppp with this provider before I switched to another at home, and it worked fine, but they have gotten in a new 56k term server and frankly, they have not, and have never had, a clue. I'm not at all familiar with the intricacies of the PPP protocol, but it looks as if they have the equivalent of iijppp's "openmode passive" set on their end, and aren't _forcing_ me to grab a valid IP address from their address pool. What happens is, if I set "openmode passive" on my end, it connects, and authenticates, but nothing ever happens. >From the logs it appears that no IPCP chatter takes place to ever negotiate the local and peer addresses. If I set "openmode active" on my end, the dummy address (in this case 10.0.0.1), set with the "ifaddr" command in ppp.conf as required for the -auto option, stays put and never gets changed. It appears as though their end just accepts the dummy address as valid and doesn't force me to use a real address. I can ping the gateway (their term server), but can't get any farther than that. Is there ANY way I can make this work without yelling at the ISP to get their sh*t set up right? (all the Win95 clients work fine, how do they do it?) I did notice that their term server tells me what my address should be before it goes into PPP mode (ala SLIP style), and even attempting to 'set ifaddr' using that address each time gets me nowhere. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net /* FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and compatibles (SPARC and Alpha under development) (http://www.freebsd.org) */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 10:38:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08270 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08211 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA15462 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISDN Opinions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a customer who has purchased an ISDN dedicated connection from us. Traditionally we have always done dedicated lines via our NT boxes. This time I *want* to do it via a FreeBSD box as that is the direction that we are standardizing and the routing in NT sucks...(please don't flame me if there's any NT lovers on this list ) Normally we would use USR Courier-I modems (128K ISDN) and they have worked perfect in the past. Questions... 1. Will the Courier-I modem work ok with FreeBSD and is there a better choice to go with? If so, why is xyz modem better? 2. Does FreeBSD support ISDN natively or do I have my work cut out for me? 3. The Courier's do channel bonding via software... is this going to be a problem (versus some modems that run dual-b channels via hardware control eliminating need for software intervention)? Thanks very much, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 11:36:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18549 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18539 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01988; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpddR1981; Mon Jul 20 18:31:23 1998 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:31:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Ray Bellis cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Load balancing across 2 E1s? In-Reply-To: <004501bdb3fc$82f0edc0$1aa148c3@rpb.community.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you can look in the archives ('net' mailing list) for references to the 'mpath' patches.. julian (thye may not apply totally cleanly due to some checnges in FreeBSD since then, but they should bo 99% what you need) julian On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Ray Bellis wrote: > I've an application where a customer wants to connect together two networks with a microwave link, where the microwave > link is terminated as two G.703 E1 (2Mbps) circuits in parallel. I hope to use G.703 to X.21 convertors to interface > the circuits to PCI synchronous cards in a system running FreeBSD. > > Is it possible to make FreeBSD load balance across the two circuits to give the expected 4Mbps circuit, or will I need > to use hardware muxes (and then find a 4Mbps G.703 to V.35 convertor)? > > thanks, > > Ray. > > -- > Ray Bellis, MA(Oxon) - Technical Director - Oxford CommUnity Internet plc > Windsor House, 12 High Street, Kidlington, OXFORD OX5 2PJ UK > Telephone: +44-1865-856000 Fax: +44-1865-856001 > Email: ray.bellis@community.net.uk URL: http://www.community.co.uk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 12:22:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27644 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27632 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03106; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807201921.MAA03106@implode.root.com> To: "Ray Bellis" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Load balancing across 2 E1s? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:36:14 BST." <004501bdb3fc$82f0edc0$1aa148c3@rpb.community.net.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:21:49 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've an application where a customer wants to connect together two networks with a microwave link, where the microwave >link is terminated as two G.703 E1 (2Mbps) circuits in parallel. I hope to use G.703 to X.21 convertors to interface >the circuits to PCI synchronous cards in a system running FreeBSD. > >Is it possible to make FreeBSD load balance across the two circuits to give the expected 4Mbps circuit, or will I need >to use hardware muxes (and then find a 4Mbps G.703 to V.35 convertor)? I started the design work for multi-line load balancing support in FreeBSD just last night. Coincidences like this always amaze me. When do you need this to be finished? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 12:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02441 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02436 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Received: from patty.loop.com (patty-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA25707 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cassandra M. Perkins" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS Stale Handles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a way to remove stale NFS handles without restarting the complaining client? The client station complains when I try to remount the remote file system. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 13:44:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11569 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.intercom.com ([207.51.55.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11564 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@mail.intercom.com) Received: from localhost (jason@localhost) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA15596 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: jason To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ethernet question. In-Reply-To: <199807201921.MAA03106@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible under FreeBSD to "bond" 2 ethernet cards together, simular to the MPP bonding of multiple modems in Win95/98/NT? I have heard that Linux has a ultility to bond 2 or more ethernet cards together, making a virtual interface with one IP address. Anyone port it yet? With companies like Matrox etc putting out PCI ethernet cards with 4 10/100mbit ports per card, some very interesting things could be done. -J To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 14:31:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18546 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18524 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04651; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807202129.OAA04651@implode.root.com> To: Julian Elischer cc: Ray Bellis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Load balancing across 2 E1s? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:31:21 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:29:44 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >you can look in the archives ('net' mailing list) for references to the >'mpath' patches.. > >julian >(thye may not apply totally cleanly due to some checnges in FreeBSD since >then, but they should bo 99% what you need) There are several problems with the mpath implementation. While I like the general idea of hanging multiple destinations off of a route, doing so causes a plethora of incompatiblity problems with various utilities. The current implementation seems to also not have support for deterministic routing so that packet reordering doesn't occur. The solution that I'm working on is far simpler and is implemented by creating a virtual interface which is then configured with the desired destinations (circuit aggregation). It will support both queue-size based load balancing as well as deterministic load balancing (by hashing on the destination address) - you chose which is best for your environment. This should all be compatible with existing utilites and not require any changes to the kernel routing code or interfaces. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 14:55:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23213 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.visiontm.com (server.visiontm.com [208.236.113.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23194 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry@visiontm.com) Received: from hp.visiontm.com (hp.visiontm.com [192.168.93.5]) by server.visiontm.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13278; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Harry Patterson" To: "Paul Stewart" , Subject: Re: ISDN Opinions Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:47:37 -0400 Message-ID: <01bdb428$0323a0c0$055da8c0@hp.visiontm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >We have a customer who has purchased an ISDN dedicated connection from us. >Traditionally we have always done dedicated lines via our NT boxes. This >time I *want* to do it via a FreeBSD box as that is the direction that we >are standardizing and the routing in NT sucks...(please don't flame me if >there's any NT lovers on this list ) > >Normally we would use USR Courier-I modems (128K ISDN) and they have >worked perfect in the past. > >Questions... > >1. Will the Courier-I modem work ok with FreeBSD and is there a better >choice to go with? If so, why is xyz modem better? My courier I-modem works fine and connects with both channels using standard at commands. However, I am connecting to an ISP not acting like one. I could think of several alternatives that would probably be better suited to multiple ISDN lines including the Ascend products. An Ascend router (Max 1800, pipeline 85, etc) will do all the reconnecting for you if the line fails and give you diagnostic screens as well. With courier (and probably most others) ISDN modems the software will have to do the checking and reconnecting. We use the Ascend ISDN products for a local network with remote sites and they work quite well. >2. Does FreeBSD support ISDN natively or do I have my work cut out for me? AS I said it's done through AT commands. This has been discussed in the questions mailing lists extensively. >3. The Courier's do channel bonding via software... is this going to be a >problem (versus some modems that run dual-b channels via hardware control >eliminating need for software intervention)? Once you send the command string, the modem connects the second channel. If the channel goes down (pick up a phone using a b channel the channel will come back after hang up. Hope this helps, Harry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 15:34:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29817 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29796 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11786; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdp11784; Mon Jul 20 22:23:54 1998 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: David Greenman cc: Ray Bellis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Load balancing across 2 E1s? In-Reply-To: <199807201921.MAA03106@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org don't forget the mpath stuff.. May not be all you want but it does work.. On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, David Greenman wrote: > >I've an application where a customer wants to connect together two networks with a microwave link, where the microwave > >link is terminated as two G.703 E1 (2Mbps) circuits in parallel. I hope to use G.703 to X.21 convertors to interface > >the circuits to PCI synchronous cards in a system running FreeBSD. > > > >Is it possible to make FreeBSD load balance across the two circuits to give the expected 4Mbps circuit, or will I need > >to use hardware muxes (and then find a 4Mbps G.703 to V.35 convertor)? > > I started the design work for multi-line load balancing support in FreeBSD > just last night. Coincidences like this always amaze me. When do you need this > to be finished? > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 19:01:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17088 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17055 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA21510 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:00:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00d601bdb44b$5b7b5c40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD-ISP" Subject: Apache-FP-SSL Port Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:00:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally, have the FrontPage Extensions working with the Apache-SSL server under FreeBSD. Currently, the following is working: - FrontPage - edit/add/modify FP webs with non-secure server - Web browsers - access both the non-secure/secure server (http, https) The following is untested: - FrontPage - edit/add/modify FP webs using the secure server The reason I can't test this is because I don't have a certificate with a valid CA. When I try to access the secure server with FrontPage I receive the following warning: "FrontPage is unable to establish a secure connection with the server, because the server's SSL certificate is either invalid, or issued by an untrusted certificate authority" Could, someone with FrontPage and a valid certificate test this and let me know. The FreeBSD port is available from: ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/ssl If you wish to use SSLeay 0.9.0b then retrieve the port from the above FTP site, change to the /usr/ports/security directory, remove the current SSLeay port, then untar the SSLeay 0.9.0b port. You can either make the SSLeay port now, or let the apache-fp-ssl port uses it's dependency on the SSLeay port to build & install the SSLeay port. To install the port follow the instructions for the apache-fp port at: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp/#B Also, the port no-longer installs the FP extensions by default so that you will have a chance to edit the config files ([httpd,access,srm].conf) before the extensions are installed. To install the FrontPage extensions use "make frontpage". Scot W. Hetzel FreeBSD Apache-FP, Apache-FP-SSL Port Maintainer Apache13-FP Patch Maintainer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 21:11:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07060 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07023 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06292 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:11:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strange behaviour of ep0 in 2.2.5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok before you guys say upgrade, here's the scoop. 2.2.5-Stable running as a news server with full feed on a T1 line. After 80 days, the interface (ep0) went down, ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig ep0 up broght the system back to life. Again at 112 days, same thing. I rebooted it just incase. Here's netstat -s output, notice the strange negative numbers. Could the counters wrapping cause the interface to go offline? ip: 160041838 total packets received 0 bad header checksums 0 with size smaller than minimum 0 with data size < data length 0 with header length < data size 0 with data length < header length 0 with bad options 0 with incorrect version number 0 fragments received 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) 0 fragments dropped after timeout 0 packets reassembled ok 160041797 packets for this host 30 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol 0 packets forwarded 11 packets not forwardable 0 redirects sent 124960549 packets sent from this host 9 packets sent with fabricated ip header 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. 0 output packets discarded due to no route 0 output datagrams fragmented 0 fragments created 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented icmp: 3963 calls to icmp_error 0 errors not generated 'cuz old message was icmp Output histogram: echo reply: 127 destination unreachable: 3963 0 messages with bad code fields 0 messages < minimum length 0 bad checksums 0 messages with bad length Input histogram: echo reply: 12 destination unreachable: 1775 source quench: 39 routing redirect: 108079 echo: 127 time exceeded: 4847 address mask request: 4 127 message responses generated igmp: 30 messages received 0 messages received with too few bytes 0 messages received with bad checksum 0 membership queries received 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s) 20 membership reports received 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s) 20 membership reports received for groups to which we belong 2 membership reports sent tcp: 124568601 packets sent 49925081 data packets (-1164652352 bytes) 3261982 data packets (1959566876 bytes) retransmitted 32 resends initiated by MTU discovery 49620214 ack-only packets (47810782 delayed) 8 URG only packets 1123589 window probe packets 20396951 window update packets 242964 control packets 159096534 packets received 46086543 acks (for -434530479 bytes) 6439546 duplicate acks 0 acks for unsent data 103126413 packets (-714293104 bytes) received in-sequence 3269043 completely duplicate packets (-2080469512 bytes) 221 old duplicate packets 4879525 packets with some dup. data (-1247669438 bytes duped) 196570 out-of-order packets (79007733 bytes) 806 packets (771 bytes) of data after window 771 window probes 7855568 window update packets 11849 packets received after close 108 discarded for bad checksums 0 discarded for bad header offset fields 0 discarded because packet too short 115014 connection requests 110979 connection accepts 3018 bad connection attempts 692 listen queue overflows 214518 connections established (including accepts) 272037 connections closed (including 36784 drops) 66208 connections updated cached RTT on close 66208 connections updated cached RTT variance on close 52838 connections updated cached ssthresh on close 3438 embryonic connections dropped 40673991 segments updated rtt (of 41011229 attempts) 2020595 retransmit timeouts 535 connections dropped by rexmit timeout 1704217 persist timeouts 42 connections dropped by persist timeout 6510 keepalive timeouts 2922 keepalive probes sent 2946 connections dropped by keepalive 5101871 correct ACK header predictions 87888605 correct data packet header predictions udp: 830380 datagrams received 0 with incomplete header 0 with bad data length field 0 with bad checksum 3963 dropped due to no socket 0 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket 0 dropped due to full socket buffers 0 not for hashed pcb 826417 delivered 359131 datagrams output Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 22:03:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12974 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12969 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA12251; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma012249; Mon Jul 20 22:02:52 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id WAA10176; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199807210502.WAA10176@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: ethernet question. In-Reply-To: from jason at "Jul 20, 98 04:48:09 pm" To: jason@mail.intercom.com (jason) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jason writes: > Is it possible under FreeBSD to "bond" 2 ethernet > cards together, simular to the MPP bonding of multiple > modems in Win95/98/NT? I have heard that Linux has a > ultility to bond 2 or more ethernet cards together, > making a virtual interface with one IP address. Anyone > port it yet? With companies like Matrox etc putting out > PCI ethernet cards with 4 10/100mbit ports per card, > some very interesting things could be done. Since Ethernet is frame oriented, you could certainly wire it up in a point to point configuration and run PPP over it, then use multi-link over that. You could use the BPF driver and a hacked up user-mode ppp/mpd as a proof of concept. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 20 22:58:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19963 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19958 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:58:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA07859; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:57:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199807210557.AAA07859@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour of ep0 in 2.2.5 In-Reply-To: from Andrew Webster at "Jul 21, 98 00:11:07 am" To: andrew@pubnix.net Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:57:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Ok before you guys say upgrade, here's the scoop. > > 2.2.5-Stable running as a news server with full feed on a T1 line. > After 80 days, the interface (ep0) went down, ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > ep0 up broght the system back to life. > Again at 112 days, same thing. > Yep, the 'ep' driver is definately buggy. :) You'll see things such as: 1) Load average getting higher and higher, while user cpu % getting smaller. 2) Connections randomly getting stuck 3) The card randomly dying, like what you saw ifconfig ep0 down ; ifconfig ep0 up fixes the problem in most cases. Until they can work around the bug, you can go to most big computer stores and get a de0 compatible NetGear FA310TX card for $29.95 (100MB full duplex) I'm still phasing my ep cards out.. the performance difference is astonishing. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 21 11:43:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12873 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12854 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA04274 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:03:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: shopping carts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD friendly.... The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs without our interaction on our part... What is everyone using? What are the URL's of the companies? Something free is great, but we had originally decided to purchase GoldPaint at $990USD but with it you must buy a copy for each domain name which adds up very quickly so now looking to see what's really out there... Thanks very much, Paul PS - the server our customers will be hosted on for the shopping cart will only allow them FTP access to their accounts. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 21 11:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13513 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fireworm.bluesun.net ([209.186.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13389 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@bluesun.net) Received: from bluesun.net (host82.omega-slc.com [208.200.222.82]) by fireworm.bluesun.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22527 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:44:15 GMT (envelope-from doug@bluesun.net) Message-ID: <35B48DCE.EC4752BF@bluesun.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:47:10 +0000 From: Jon Zobrist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RIP broadcasts.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone. I am running FreeBSD 2.2.6 on a machine connected to a 10BT hub, which is then connected to a 10BT switch. I have a machine which dissappears from the internet occasionally.. When it boots up it announces itself and appears in the routing table of the router,, a cisco 75xx Then disappears after a while, stops making broadcasts altogether.. I have read through man pages, and read through the complete freebsd, and talked with various people about it, including my upstream provider. My current temporary solution is to have cron on another machine ping the machine in question every few minutes, this seems to be working, but I don't like this half assed approach.. In talking with several people I discovered that I may need to be running RIP, or something... The question is how do I enable RIP... I don't think I want to be running routed, or gated... but what else would enable me to make RIP broadcasts? In the book, the complete freebsd, in the manual configuration section there is a netstat -r that shows a broadcast section (pg 320) which has an address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff flags are UHLWb Refs 2 I have no such entry in my routing tables. Should i try to add the route? if so what flag indicates it is a broadcast? I have Intel 10/100 NIC, dev/fxp0 Any thoughts would be appreciated... Thanks, Jon Zobrist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 21 12:09:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19015 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jupiter.connecticom.com (jupiter.connecticom.com [209.3.110.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18993 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitt@connecticom.com) Received: from [209.3.110.25] (orion.connecticom.com [209.3.110.25]) by jupiter.connecticom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA17349; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:07:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: sysadmin@mail.connecticom.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:07:50 -0400 To: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kitt Diebold Subject: Re: shopping carts Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try Hazel from Netsville. http://www.netsville.com -Kitt At 3:03 PM -0400 7/21/98, Paul Stewart wrote: >We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD >friendly.... > >The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) >that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying >on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have >their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs >without our interaction on our part... > >What is everyone using? What are the URL's of the companies? Something >free is great, but we had originally decided to purchase GoldPaint >at $990USD but with it you must buy a copy for each domain name which adds >up very quickly so now looking to see what's really out there... > >Thanks very much, > >Paul > >PS - the server our customers will be hosted on for the shopping cart will >only allow them FTP access to their accounts. :) Connecticom, Inc. Internet Services for Business (web hosting & programming) (716) 546-3510 http://www.connecticom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 21 12:17:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20339 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20334 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Received: from patty.loop.com (patty-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.69]) by stevie.loop.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA20895 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cassandra M. Perkins" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS Stale Handles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Disregard. I figured it out. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Cassandra M. Perkins wrote: > Is there a way to remove stale NFS handles without restarting the > complaining client? The client station complains when I try to remount > the remote file system. > > Thank you. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | > | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | > | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 21 12:22:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21238 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21219 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id MAA26691; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:20:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199807211920.MAA26691@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: doug@bluesun.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RIP broadcasts.... In-Reply-To: <35B48DCE.EC4752BF@bluesun.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:47:10 +0000 >From: Jon Zobrist >Hello everyone. I am running FreeBSD 2.2.6 on a machine connected to a >10BT hub, which is then connected to a 10BT switch. I have a machine >which dissappears from the internet occasionally.. Hmmmm.. >When it boots up it announces itself and appears in the routing table of >the router,, a cisco 75xx There is some reason the cisco isn't confgured to send everthying for a given network out a given interface? >Then disappears after a while, stops making broadcasts altogether.. I >have read through man pages, and read through the complete freebsd, and >talked with various people about it, including my upstream provider. My >current temporary solution is to have cron on another machine ping the >machine in question every few minutes, this seems to be working, but I >don't like this half assed approach.. In talking with several people I >discovered that I may need to be running RIP, or something... The >question is how do I enable RIP... I don't think I want to be running >routed, or gated... but what else would enable me to make >RIP broadcasts? Well, to enable RIP, run routed. (That's specified in /etc/rc.conf.) However, it isn't at all clear to me why this might be perceived to be useful; if the machine has but a single physical interface with the net, why not tell the machine (in /etc/rc.conf) that its "gateway" is the IP address of the (or "a") router for the net? That way, unless your network topology is rather more complicated than is so far apparent to me (though I may be a little thick-headed), you don't need to clutter your life or net with RIP. >In the book, the complete freebsd, in the manual configuration section >there is a netstat -r that shows a broadcast section (pg 320) which has >an address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff flags are UHLWb Refs 2 >I have no such entry in my routing tables. Should i try to add the >route? if so what flag indicates it is a broadcast? I have Intel 10/100 >NIC, dev/fxp0 That seems strange; here: cvs[2]% netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 207.76.205.129 UGSc 0 1 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 590 lo0 207.76.205 link#1 UC 0 0 ... 207.76.205.156 link#1 UHLW 1 349 207.76.205.222 0:80:c7:84:43:4d UHLW 1 630 fxp0 1194 207.76.205.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 1 fxp0 I certainly did *nothing* to (explicitly) create that entry. And in our case, the .129 address is that of the router for the net. >Any thoughts would be appreciated... Hope that helps, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 02:08:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18346 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axe.cablenet.net (axe.cablenet.net [195.248.96.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18270 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damian@cablenet.net) Received: from cablenet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axe.cablenet.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id JAA07190; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:57:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35B5A97F.125CE72A@cablenet.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:57:35 +0100 From: Damian Hamill Organization: CableNet Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shopping carts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Stewart wrote: > > We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD > friendly.... > > The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) > that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying > on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have > their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs > without our interaction on our part... We have developed a system that we will be marketing for $1500USD (which includes installation by us). It is ideally suited for an ISP to provide e-commerce services for multiple vendors. - runs on Freebsd with Apache 1.2b7/1.3, PHP v2/v3 - unlimited products - unlimited vendors - remembers customers - web based product catalogue admin interface - search and categorisation facilities - multi currency - variable tax rates based on source & destination - shipping costs based on source & destination - facility for per sale commissions - written in PHP,C,perl - PHP can be easily modified to suit - perl order processing script can be modified so you can easily integrate any of the online credit card processing systems You can see this in action at http://www.mercardo.com and also integrated into a vendors website at http;//www.landscapetv.com choose the "New Way to Buy Music" link. regards damian -- * Damian Hamill M.D. damian@cablenet.net * CableNet & The Landscape Channel * http://www.cablenet.net/ http://www.landscapetv.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 02:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19760 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA19752 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yyv28-0000C2-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:18:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980722101801.00928560@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:18:01 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: shopping carts In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You might also want to look at http://www.minivend.com/iri/mvend.html (perl/free) At 15:07 21/07/98 -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: >Try Hazel from Netsville. http://www.netsville.com > >-Kitt > > >At 3:03 PM -0400 7/21/98, Paul Stewart wrote: >>We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD >>friendly.... >> >>The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) >>that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying >>on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have >>their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs >>without our interaction on our part... >> >>What is everyone using? What are the URL's of the companies? Something >>free is great, but we had originally decided to purchase GoldPaint >>at $990USD but with it you must buy a copy for each domain name which adds >>up very quickly so now looking to see what's really out there... >> >>Thanks very much, >> >>Paul >> >>PS - the server our customers will be hosted on for the shopping cart will >>only allow them FTP access to their accounts. :) > >Connecticom, Inc. >Internet Services for Business > (web hosting & programming) >(716) 546-3510 >http://www.connecticom.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 03:38:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01890 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axe.cablenet.net (axe.cablenet.net [195.248.96.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01880 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damian@cablenet.net) Received: from cablenet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axe.cablenet.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id LAA07653 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:09:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35B5BA72.DD9A5ECE@cablenet.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:09:55 +0100 From: Damian Hamill Organization: CableNet Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Virtual-scalable email Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have developed a product which we are sure will be of interest to other ISPs. It allows us to handle email for any number of users in any number of domains, each with their own distinct user namespace, all on an unlimited set of machines. -------------------------------------- Some of the features that make this interesting are; User names & passwords are stored in SQL tables and can be easily added/deleted/modified from web forms. As soon as a user is added via the web form then they are able to receive email in the domain that they were added to. The radius server uses the same SQL tables for user authorisation and authorises the user correctly within multiple domains whether the domain name was appended to the username or not. An unlimted number of machines can be deployed to handle incoming mail via SMTP and serve email to users via POP3. Incoming email is stored locally on each SMTP server. The POP3 server collects the email from all the machines when serving the email to the client. So you can define multiple mail servers for the domain and multiple IP addresses for the POP server and whichever pop server the user connects to (by virtue of round-robin DNS) they will get ALL of their email on ALL of the servers. ----------------------------------- We don't have a large userbase so we are interested in finding an ISP with a large userbase who would be willing to test the scalability aspects before we start to market the software. If anyone is interested in trying the software and has a userbase in excess of 10,000 users then please let me know. regards damian -- * Damian Hamill M.D. damian@cablenet.net * CableNet & The Landscape Channel * http://www.cablenet.net/ http://www.landscapetv.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 07:15:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05301 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (rwc@cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05282 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@cscfx.sytex.com) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA07023 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:14:26 -0400 From: Richard Cramer Message-Id: <199807221414.KAA07023@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: 4 SALE, oversupply of P-130's To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:14:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fellow Freebsd-isps, We find ourselves with an oversupply of Ascend Pipeline 130's with Secure Connect firewall. Configuration is 1 ethernet port, 1 f/t1 port, and 1 BRI port. If anyone has an interest email directly (not on the list) or call. Regards, Dick -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 07:36:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10788 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10754 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA21919; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: Manar Hussain cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shopping carts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980722101801.00928560@stingray.ivision.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks.. tried Minivend... too hard to work with for our end users.... :) Paul On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Manar Hussain wrote: > > You might also want to look at http://www.minivend.com/iri/mvend.html > (perl/free) > > At 15:07 21/07/98 -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: > >Try Hazel from Netsville. http://www.netsville.com > > > >-Kitt > > > > > >At 3:03 PM -0400 7/21/98, Paul Stewart wrote: > >>We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD > >>friendly.... > >> > >>The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) > >>that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying > >>on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have > >>their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs > >>without our interaction on our part... > >> > >>What is everyone using? What are the URL's of the companies? Something > >>free is great, but we had originally decided to purchase GoldPaint > >>at $990USD but with it you must buy a copy for each domain name which adds > >>up very quickly so now looking to see what's really out there... > >> > >>Thanks very much, > >> > >>Paul > >> > >>PS - the server our customers will be hosted on for the shopping cart will > >>only allow them FTP access to their accounts. :) > > > >Connecticom, Inc. > >Internet Services for Business > > (web hosting & programming) > >(716) 546-3510 > >http://www.connecticom.com > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 08:36:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21173 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs1.cityscope.net (cs1.cityscope.net [206.222.183.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21098 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ingrid@cityscope.net) Received: from cityscope.net (193.cityscope.net [209.16.49.193]) by cs1.cityscope.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA01592; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35B606BF.873B3F97@cityscope.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:35:27 -0500 From: Ingrid Kast Fuller Reply-To: ingrid@cityscope.net Organization: CityScope Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Stewart CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shopping carts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you tried HTMLSCRIPT's Miva product called Koolcat? Check out their page at: http://www.htmlscript.com/ and http://www.htmlscript.com/koolcat/ We have about 6 customers and ourself using the Koolcat product. Paul Stewart wrote: > > We are looking for a good quality shopping cart system that is FreeBSD > friendly.... > > The features are your normal shopping cart (either db based or html based) > that allows a "remember me" function for shoppers returning after buying > on the site once.. along with the ability for our customers (who have > their own domains, well most of them) to update and change their catalogs > without our interaction on our part... > > What is everyone using? What are the URL's of the companies? Something > free is great, but we had originally decided to purchase GoldPaint > at $990USD but with it you must buy a copy for each domain name which adds > up very quickly so now looking to see what's really out there... > > Thanks very much, > > Paul > > PS - the server our customers will be hosted on for the shopping cart will > only allow them FTP access to their accounts. :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- *********************************************************** Ingrid Kast Fuller (ingrid@cityscope.net) CityScope Net (http://www.cityscope.net) 1(713)477-6161 109 West Southmore, Pasadena, TX 77502-1001 *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 12:26:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06217 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06123 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dm@sangoma.com) Received: from dm.sangoma.com (dm.interlog.com [199.212.154.24]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23773 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199807221924.PAA23773@smtp.interlog.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David Mandelstam" Organization: Sangoma Technologies Inc. To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:23:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: FreeBSD PPP for Sangoma WANPIPE(tm) S508/S508-FT1 adapters Reply-to: dm@sangoma.com In-reply-to: <199807221829.OAA12123@smtp.interlog.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sangoma Technologies Inc. is pleased to announce that our popular WANPIPE(tm) internal router cards now also support FreeBSD. All drivers and utilities are distributed under GNU Public License (GPL) in source code form. The PPP point-to-point driver for Sangoma S508 and S508-FT1 adapters is now available for download at ftp.sangoma.com/pub/FreeBSD/ptpipe. The Sangoma S508 is an intelligent communications adapter that supports a number of downloadable protocol modules at synchronous speeds up to 4.0 M bps. It is available with a V.35/RS232/EIA530/X.21 interface, or an optional on board T1/FT1 DSU/CSU. More information can be found at www.sangoma.com/wanpipe.htm. Please refer to README .ptpipe at ftp.sangoma.com/pub/FreeBSD/ptpipe for more information, visit our website at www.sangoma.com or contact us at dm@sangoma.com. David Mandelstam Tel: (905) 474-1990 (800) 388-2475 Sangoma Technologies Fax: (905) 474-9223 Email: dm@sangoma.com Web site: www.sangoma.com David Mandelstam Tel: (905) 474-1990 (800) 388-2475 Sangoma Technologies Fax: (905) 474-9223 Email: dm@sangoma.com Web site: www.sangoma.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 16:43:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21279 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mfisher.harborcom.net (root@mfisher.harborcom.net [206.158.4.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21262 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mfisher@harborcom.net) Received: from mfisher (helo=localhost) by mfisher.harborcom.net with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0yz8WT-0000Nk-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:42:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:42:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Fisher To: Marcel Mason {Personal} cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting mail folder size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, Marcel Mason {Personal} wrote: > I am looking for a way limit the size of a clients > mail file to say, 2 Mb total, and reject/bounce > mail received after the specified max size is > reached. > > Has anyone else contemplated this solution to > clients who do not check their mail on a > regular basis. I recommend Cyrus, which is available in the ports collection. It is an IMAP/POP3 server which does very little as root, and has worked very nicely for me. It does allow quotas to be configured. One slight obstacle that you will encounter, should you choose to implement Cyrus, is that it stores each message as a separate file rather than in the "bezerk" format, so you will probably need to take your mail service down for a while and run a script to convert the mailboxes. http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus.html -- Mike "I swear - by my life and by my love of it - that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." --Ayn Rand, _Atlas Shrugged_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 17:32:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00505 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel.paradise.net.nz (rachel.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00498 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shane@paradise.net.nz) Received: from shane (shane.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.6]) by rachel.paradise.net.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA10155 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:48:30 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from shane@paradise.net.nz) From: "Shane Cole" To: Subject: Max process size? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:34:54 +1200 Message-ID: <006601bdb5d1$b621c260$069860cb@shane.paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had someone tell me that the maximum amount of memory a program can run is 16M, Im concerned because my DNS process is getting close to that, and watching my nightly log processing run, the way that it works it grows close to this size as well. Unrelated question - I'm running a small ISP on a 2.2.5 box and am very happy with it, close to 3000 users now and I am starting to get the odd email turning up twice, identical events in my logs... strange things like that, has anyone else seen this? Regards Shane Cole - Systems Administrator Paradise Net Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 18:03:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05063 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:03:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05058 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 0yz9ma-0000Ut-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:02:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA11709; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:02:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: Apache-FP-SSL Port To: "Scot W. Hetzel" cc: FreeBSD-ISP In-Reply-To: <00d601bdb44b$5b7b5c40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ... > The following is untested: > > - FrontPage - edit/add/modify FP webs using the secure server > > The reason I can't test this is because I don't have a certificate with a > valid CA. > When I try to access the secure server with FrontPage I receive the > following warning: > > "FrontPage is unable to establish a secure connection with the server, > because the server's SSL certificate is either invalid, or issued by an > untrusted certificate authority" > > ... If FrontPage works anything like SSL-capable browsers, you should be able to install the CA certificate into the client and set it as a trusted authority. Then FronPage should accept your server's certificate. If you are using a self-issued certificate, you can install it into clients by putting a link in your insecure server. The link should be to your self-issued CA certificate in DER form. (NOTE: It's the CA certificate, not the server certificate.) The only potentially tricky part is that you need to ensure that the file will be sent as application/x-x509-ca-cert. If you have as-is handling turned on, you can simply call the file something like 'my-CA-cert.der.asis', make the link use http="my-CA-cert.der". (As-is handling is turned on by the following line in your server config: AddHandler send-as-is asis The first line of the file should contain the Content-Type: header: Content-Type: application/x-509-ca-cert The second line should be blank; and the rest of the file is the binary DER format certificate. When a client browser clicks on the link, the user will be presented with an opportunity to accept add the certificate to their database. At least that's how it works with Netscape. With M$ products, your milage is very likely to vary... -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 18:36:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10621 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from darla.swimsuit.internet.dk (pm26-7.image.dk [194.234.59.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10613 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@internet.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost.swimsuit.internet.dk [127.0.0.1]) by darla.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA18915 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:36:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:36:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland X-Sender: root@darla.swimsuit.internet.dk To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MX CNAME Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? Sendmail doesn't seem to have a problem with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 19:05:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15472 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15450; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199807230205.TAA15450@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: MX CNAME In-Reply-To: from Leif Neland at "Jul 23, 98 03:36:03 am" To: root@internet.dk (Leif Neland) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote: > > Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? because its wrong. the RFC require that MX'es point to A records, not CNAME records, to the best of my memory. > > Sendmail doesn't seem to have a problem with it. sendmail is letting them get by with an incorrect configuration. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 19:27:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18118 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bach.safetyweb.com.au (bach.safetyweb.com.au [203.37.24.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18112 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@safetyweb.com.au) Received: from bridge.safetyweb.com.au (bridge.safetyweb.com.au [203.37.24.6]) by bach.safetyweb.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02394; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:26:19 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723122455.03b9a100@bach> X-Sender: greg@bach X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:24:55 +1000 To: Leif Neland From: Greg Ryan Subject: Re: MX CNAME Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA18114 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:36 23/07/98 +0200, you wrote: > >Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? > >Sendmail doesn't seem to have a problem with it. because its contrary to the rfc's. Its also a good idea to make sure its an A record, and you have reverse DNS configured, as many sites wont accept mail if the hostname doesnt resolve forwards and backwards. from the sendmail FAQ: 3.Configure MX records for your domain (Note: CNAME records can not be used; see §5.2.2 of RFC 1123 for details.) MX records are explained in the sendmail book, section 15.3, and how to configure them is explained in section 21.3. cheers from downunder greg -- SafetyWeb Internet Solutions Pty Ltd Suite 1101, Capital Tower Canberra City ACT 2601 Australia +61 02 6257 9901 Telephone +61 02 6257 9904 Technical Support +61 02 6257 9902 Fax greg@safetyweb.com.au http://www.safetyweb.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 20:45:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28807 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cebolinha.pontocom.com.br (cebolinha.pontocom.com.br [200.225.26.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28793 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gustavoh@sysadmin.com.br) Received: from bolinha.o-poder.org.br (ppp185-asc-rjo01.pontocom.com.br [200.225.1.185]) by cebolinha.pontocom.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17726; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:49:04 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723004338.009b1670@208.30.28.18> X-Sender: gustavoh@208.30.28.18 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:43:38 -0300 To: Leif Neland , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gustavo Henrique Subject: Re: MX CNAME In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:36 23/07/98 +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > >Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? > >Sendmail doesn't seem to have a problem with it. > You can't add mx records to a cname. If you want to, just add the mx record pointing to the original name. ============================================================= Gustavo Henrique Maultasch de Oliveira Sysadmin.com.br gustavoh@sysadmin.com.br http://www.sysadmin.com.br ============================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 22 23:39:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20892 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zet.internet.dk (zet.internet.dk [194.19.140.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20859; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@internet.dk) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by zet.internet.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18769; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: domreg To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MX CNAME In-Reply-To: <199807230205.TAA15450@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Leif Neland wrote: > > > > Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? > > because its wrong. the RFC require that MX'es point > to A records, not CNAME records, to the best of my > memory. > "Because it is wrong" doesn't work with my kids either. What is the problem? Does it break anything? Should I go change all the ocurrences in all the domains we host? Or should I give mailhost the same ip-adress as the realhost instead of giving it a cname to realhost? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 00:25:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27120 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.keyworld.net (root@mail.keyworld.net [194.21.164.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27110 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mailing@keyworld.net) Received: from scanner (scanner.keyworld.net [194.21.164.17]) by mail.keyworld.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA09969 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:19:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199807230719.JAA09969@mail.keyworld.net> From: "Mailing Lists" To: Subject: CNET 100Mbit Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:25:57 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am currently doing some tests on the CNET PowerNIC CN100TX(e) using FreeBSD 2.2.5 During installation, the network card is detected and allows me to configure it as well, giving the NIC an IP address, host, domain etc... After booting up from installation, I tried to make a ping on a known IP address but the response was always that the host was down. I tried other IP addresses but still the same. The funny thing is that if I try to ping the IP of the machine itself, it will work. Does anyone have any ideas or has anyone experienced the same problem ? Regards, Nicholas Aquilina To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 00:52:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02065 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (root@alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02041 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA12964; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:52:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: domreg cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: MX CNAME In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:33 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:52:03 -0400 Message-ID: <12960.901180323@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org domreg wrote in message ID : > "Because it is wrong" doesn't work with my kids either. > > What is the problem? Does it break anything? > > Should I go change all the ocurrences in all the domains we host? > > Or should I give mailhost the same ip-adress as the realhost instead of > giving it a cname to realhost? I would. I wouldn't want to wait until a release of BIND changed the resolution rules to block MX's to CNAMES and you start losing e-mail.... Remember what happened with people that had non-valid hostnames when BIND decided to start enforcing the RFC restrictions and disallow `/' and `_' ? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 00:56:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02528 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bach.safetyweb.com.au (bach.safetyweb.com.au [203.37.24.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02504 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@safetyweb.com.au) Received: from bridge.safetyweb.com.au (bridge.safetyweb.com.au [203.37.24.6]) by bach.safetyweb.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05394; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:55:18 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723175056.03c3ed00@bach> X-Sender: greg@bach X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:50:56 +1000 To: domreg From: Greg Ryan Subject: Re: MX CNAME Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199807230205.TAA15450@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Should I go change all the ocurrences in all the domains we host? > >Or should I give mailhost the same ip-adress as the realhost instead of >giving it a cname to realhost? * point the mx record to realhost * put a cname for mailhost pointing to realhost * clients setup their mailer prog to point to mailhost (the CNAME in case you change realhost - its easier to change your named than a couple of dozen customers on that domain name) * put an entry in the reverse mapping (the in-addr.arpa) file for realhost and its IP happy happy greg -- SafetyWeb Internet Solutions Pty Ltd Suite 1101, Capital Tower Canberra City ACT 2601 Australia +61 02 6257 9901 Telephone +61 02 6257 9904 Technical Support +61 02 6257 9902 Fax greg@safetyweb.com.au http://www.safetyweb.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 01:42:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08553 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.gateway.net.hk (qmailr@home.gateway.net.hk [202.76.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA08469 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmf@gate.gateway.net.hk) Received: (qmail 17818 invoked by uid 653); 23 Jul 1998 07:55:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:55:05 +0800 (CST) From: Bo Fussing To: domreg cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MX CNAME In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, domreg wrote: > > "Because it is wrong" doesn't work with my kids either. > > What is the problem? Does it break anything? > > Should I go change all the ocurrences in all the domains we host? > > Or should I give mailhost the same ip-adress as the realhost instead of > giving it a cname to realhost? Leif, Most mailers will look for the hosts canonical domain name when delivering mail. If you choose to use a CNAME for your MX records there is no guarantee that you will get any mail. I think that is incentive enough to have a look through your DNS entries and boot out any CNAME entries from your MX lists. Bo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 01:55:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10753 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (jkb@shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10747 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id BAA07838; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:54:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Mailing Lists cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CNET 100Mbit In-Reply-To: <199807230719.JAA09969@mail.keyworld.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ohh boy.. this can be MANY things :) Try different cable. Try different card. Try different slot. Try different port on the hub/switch. Post output of ifconfig -a here for us to see. Make sure you got your netmask right. Make sure you don't have ipfw blocking everything (either "modstat" or "ipfw -a l"). Hmm.. what else.. black magik? I don't think it supports CNET cards. *grin* Are you trying to ping IP or hostname? Try pinging ip instead of hostname (might be dns problem). Make sure you don't have irq conflict ("dmesg | grep irq"). Let us know if any of the above work... -- Yan Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Mailing Lists wrote: >Hi all, > >I am currently doing some tests on the CNET PowerNIC CN100TX(e) using >FreeBSD 2.2.5 > >During installation, the network card is detected and allows me to >configure it as well, giving the NIC an IP address, host, domain etc... > >After booting up from installation, I tried to make a ping on a known IP >address but the response was always that the host was down. I tried other >IP addresses but still the same. The funny thing is that if I try to ping >the IP of the machine itself, it will work. > >Does anyone have any ideas or has anyone experienced the same problem ? > >Regards, >Nicholas Aquilina > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 05:41:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09327 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bugsy.indra.de (deuerl@bugsy.indra.de [193.158.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09307 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deuerl@bugsy.indra.de) Received: (from deuerl@localhost) by bugsy.indra.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28639 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:50:38 GMT (envelope-from deuerl) From: Robert Deuerling Message-Id: <199807231250.MAA28639@bugsy.indra.de> Subject: REAL-Video To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:50:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, does anybody already have experience with realvideo apps ? do i need any other software on my server to deliver realvideo ? FreeBSD-2.2.6 with apache 1.3.0+FP any hint appreciated :-) -Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 06:50:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18434 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA18409 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.43] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0yzLki-0005GV-00; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:49:48 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980723144949.0091a590@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:49:49 +0100 To: Robert Deuerling From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: REAL-Video Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199807231250.MAA28639@bugsy.indra.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >does anybody already have experience with realvideo apps ? >do i need any other software on my server to deliver realvideo ? > >FreeBSD-2.2.6 with apache 1.3.0+FP You can eitehr server the file over http (using apache or whatever) or use the Real Video server which has it's own protocol which gives better streaming and hence quality. www.real.com is the site to get the real video server from. The main charging basis is the number of concurrent threads supported. I think there's a free server that support up to 5 threads or something. You can get FreeBSD versions. Manar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 08:10:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00375 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00369; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA05577; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199807231508.IAA05577@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, root@internet.dk Subject: Re: MX CNAME Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:38:33 +0200 (MET DST) >From: domreg >On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: >> Leif Neland wrote: >>> Why does named complain when a MX-record points to a CNAME? >> because its wrong. the RFC require that MX'es point >> to A records, not CNAME records, to the best of my >> memory. >What is the problem? Does it break anything? Yes; it does. Mail transport agents are under no obligation to (further) resolve a CNAME. That is, the MTA can merely ask DNS for the A record for a given (fully-qualified) hostname. The DNS reply says "Sorry; no A record. I have a special on CNAMEs, though; can I interest you in one of those?" The MTA is, at that point quite free to say "No," and fail to deliver the mail to the host in question. sendmail *can* be configured to respond, in such a situation, with a request to chase down the CNAME and then ask for the A record for whatever the CNAME points to. This is part of the design to try to deliver as much mail as possible, even in the face of misconfigured sites. It is my recollection that sendmail can also be configured to adopt the stricter approach. And sendmail is by no means the only MTA out there. Here's a note from sendmail's cf/README file, as of sendmail 8.8.8: confDONT_EXPAND_CNAMES DontExpandCnames [False] If set, $[ ... $] lookups that do DNS based lookups do not expand CNAME records. This currently violates the published standards, but the IETF seems to be moving toward legalizing this. For example, if "FTP.Foo.ORG" is a CNAME for "Cruft.Foo.ORG", then with this option set a lookup of "FTP" will return "FTP.Foo.ORG"; if clear it returns "Cruft.FOO.ORG". N.B. you may not see any effect until your downstream neighbors stop doing CNAME lookups as well. >Should I go change all the ocurrences in all the domains we host? If you want them to be able to receive mail, and they are curently misconfigured, I'd recommend that, yes. >Or should I give mailhost the same ip-adress as the realhost instead of >giving it a cname to realhost? If I understand that, it sounds as if you're asking if it would be OK to have 2 different A records with different names, but the same IP address. The answer to that is "yes" -- that's not a problem at all. However, when it comes to making the PTR records, you'll need to make a decision as to the true "canonical name" associated with the IP address in question. The issue is that there needs to be a valid A record for a hostname to which mail is to be delivered. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 09:06:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09415 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com [205.162.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09406 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA12107; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199807231608.JAA12107@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: greg@safetyweb.com.au, root@internet.dk Subject: Re: MX CNAME Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980723175056.03c3ed00@bach> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I also wonder what is the rationale behind the "no MX to a CNAME" rule. It seems useful ("mailhost" can be a CNAME to the physical machine that is hosting mail), and not harmful; except, of course, that it's illegal, so we don't do it. Another alternative, besides the ones that have already been mentioned, is to do the indirection at the IP address level, rather than at the DNS level. Since modern OS's like FreeBSD allow you to associate additional IP addresses with a machine, you can always dedicate an IP address to "mailhost" (which lets you use an A record for mailhost), then bind it as an additional IP address to whichever host you want to instantiate mail services on. Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 23 09:16:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11056 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (www.teamawv.com [12.6.113.4] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11049 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from ntwksbry ([12.6.126.51]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA219 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: <002701bdb655$2256c830$337e060c@ntwksbry.walls-media.com> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: Nslookup port? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:15:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have recently put some filters in my router and now I cannot do a nslookup using a nameserver outside of my network (nslookup - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) where xxx is an external host. Does anyone know what ports I need to open up to make this work? I already have port 53 (DNS) open. Thanks for any help. Bryan Bunch bryanb@walls-media.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 24 02:48:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01460 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 02:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ppc1.cybertime.ch (ppc1.cybertime.ch [194.191.120.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA01420 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 02:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pajarola@cybertime.ch) Received: from tyr.cybertime.ch by ppc1.cybertime.ch (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19676; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:47:35 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980724114852.006fd0a4@www.dlc.cybertime.ch> X-Sender: pajarola@www.dlc.cybertime.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:49:00 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rico Pajarola Subject: Re: MX CNAME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:08 23.07.98 -0700, you wrote: >I also wonder what is the rationale behind the "no MX to a CNAME" rule. >It seems useful ("mailhost" can be a CNAME to the physical machine that >is hosting mail), and not harmful; except, of course, that it's illegal, >so we don't do it. CNAMEs are for human convenience only, they are for your users who don't want to type an un-intuitive or complicated canonical hostname, but for *you* (the admin) it shouldn't be a problem to point the MX (or any other record) directly to the A record that the CNAME points to. There should never be any other records pointing to a CNAME, because it would just make you do more (or longer) queries. This RFC rule is to allow the clients to just use simple queries. Rico Pajarola To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 24 15:43:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14517 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14472 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA13083 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:03:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: dumb question... re: routing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... I haven't done this on a FreeBSD box... so here we go.. We have a particular server which is setup to handle 255 virtual domains (full class C devoted to this server). What routing commands and rc.conf changes do I need to make. The server is physically (for example sake) at 111.111.111.92 and the class C that needs to go to it (yes, router changes have been completed to get the traffic there in the first place) and 222.222.222.0 In Linux, it was a two second job and I"m sure once I see it in FreeBSD I'll shake my head saying to myself "you dummy!"...:) Thanks again, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 24 18:30:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16666 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from carp.gbr.epa.gov (carp.gbr.epa.gov [204.46.159.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16651 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjenkins@carp.gbr.epa.gov) Received: (from mjenkins@localhost) by carp.gbr.epa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27879; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mjenkins) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:30:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Jenkins Message-Id: <199807250130.UAA27879@carp.gbr.epa.gov> To: paul@kawartha.com Subject: Re: dumb question... re: routing Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Perhaps the following is what you are looking for. Mike >From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 11 20:40:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28888 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28868; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26547; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:39:38 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:39:38 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Jos Vissers cc: Bill Fenner , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does arp not work when ip-alias installed In-Reply-To: <199609120022.CAA00961@monet.telebyte.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Jos Vissers wrote: > It did some further testing and it only appears to happen > when I add an ip-alias in another class-c network. > I used "ifconfig alias 193.67.242.20 netmask 0xffffff00" and > the machine's regular ip address is 194.235.214.65 > > When I remove the alias again it refuses to start working. > > The problem doesn't occurr when I define aliases in the same > class-c with - of course - a netmask of 0xffffffff. > > Is this my error? Should I use 2 different ethernet cards > when using different class-c addresses on one machine? > Another of our servers with 2 cards doesn't have this problem. I put my class C of aliases onto lo0. I have only a single IP address on ed0. How have you allocated your aliases and how do you send traffic to them. I have on www: ifconfig ed0 203.2.135.50 ifconfig lo0 203.8.13.1 alias ... ifconfig lo0 203.8.13.254 alias And on the routers around the equivalent of: route add 203.8.13.0 203.2.135.50 See if that helps. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 24 23:05:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14115 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from haktar.siol.net (haktar.siol.net [193.189.160.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14093 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomaz.borstnar@over.net) Received: from hang ([193.189.191.121]) by haktar.siol.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA5807; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:04:31 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980725080413.03a96100@haktar.siol.net> X-Sender: NA X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:04:13 +0200 To: David Ramahefason From: Tomaz Borstnar Subject: Re: G703 anyone ?? Cc: Bill Fumerola , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980710180801.A20393@easynet.fr> References: <19980710153402.A18243@easynet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:08 PM 7/10/98 +0200, David Ramahefason wrote: >no :), What I'd like is to plug the line into my FBSD box, >via an ETINC or Riscom card. >We're using several here, but only for 2Mbs connections... >and the G703 is new for me and I don't know anything about >this... I see that there was some small boxes that could do >the stuff (plugging the G703 --> convert to X21). That's what >I'm looking for... Try RAD FCD-2. From their page (http://www.rad.co.il/products/family/digserv/fcd-2/fcd-2.htm): Fractional E1 (CEPT) Rate and Interface Converter Available with or without LTU V.35, X.21 or V.36/RS-530 interface Selectable data rates: n x 56 or n x 64 kbps, synchronous Selectable 2 or 16 frames per multiframe with CRC-4 support Multiple clock source selection for both E1 and user ports Setup, control and monitoring via front panel or supervisory port Complies with CCITT G.703, G.704 and G.732 Can be used also as a short range modem ---- At my previous job we used it to connect cisco box to ISP in USA. Nothing else helped and setting it up is really easy if you have all the needed details (which you should have anyway). Tomaz ---- Tomaz Borstnar "Love is the answer to the final question you ask" - Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 25 16:58:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16868 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from br01.acw-web.com (br01.acw-web.com [156.46.248.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16863 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:58:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwenger@br01.acw-web.com) Received: from localhost (jwenger@localhost) by br01.acw-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA00826 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 19:02:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 19:02:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jack Wenger To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Windows Clients Email error message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When my users try to get their email, they (including me) get the following message: ERR System Error, can't open temp file, do you own it? I get the same message from Eudora, Outlook, and Netscape. I have plenty of room on my HD's, I installed qpopper-2.52 about 3 weeks ago, and haven't changed any of my other settings for mail. Pine works great. So does Samba. What temp file is this talking about and what do I need to do to fix it? Please help, My boss and my users are breathing down my neck! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jack Wenger webmaster@ac-ent.com IBM Advanced BesTeam Member ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 25 18:58:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24718 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (fullermd@shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24707 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@shell.futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25711; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980725205731.24406@futuresouth.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:57:31 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Jack Wenger Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Windows Clients Email error message References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Jack Wenger on Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 07:02:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 07:02:24PM -0500, Jack Wenger woke me up to tell me: > > When my users try to get their email, they (including me) get the > following message: > > ERR System Error, can't open temp file, do you own it? > > I get the same message from Eudora, Outlook, and Netscape. > > I have plenty of room on my HD's, I installed qpopper-2.52 about 3 weeks > ago, and haven't changed any of my other settings for mail. Pine works > great. So does Samba. What temp file is this talking about and what do I > need to do to fix it? Make sure that the directory it's trying to create temp files in (probably /var/mail) is world writable. Mode 1777, probably. > Please help, My boss and my users are breathing down my neck! Old Spice... ;) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 25 21:26:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09360 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (root@alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09353 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA26742; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 00:25:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Jack Wenger cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Windows Clients Email error message In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Jul 1998 19:02:24 CDT." Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 00:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: <26738.901427159@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jack Wenger wrote in message ID : > > When my users try to get their email, they (including me) get the > following message: > > ERR System Error, can't open temp file, do you own it? > > I get the same message from Eudora, Outlook, and Netscape. Check the permsision of the .username.pop files. That is the problem. Either that or if you are creating them in another directory, then qpopper can no longer write to that directory. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 25 23:26:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17002 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:26:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.triax.com (postoffice@mail.triax.com [206.58.96.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16995 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joer@triax.com) Received: from paranoia ([206.58.99.200]) by mail.triax.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-41958U5000L500S0) with SMTP id AAA7649; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:21:28 -0700 Message-ID: <00a301bdb85f$2facce60$c8633ace@paranoia> From: "Joe Read" To: , "Rico Pajarola" Subject: Re: MX CNAME Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:32:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >CNAMEs are for human convenience only, they are for your users >who don't want to type an un-intuitive or complicated canonical >hostname, but for *you* (the admin) it shouldn't be a problem to point >the MX (or any other record) directly to the A record that the CNAME >points to. There should never be any other records pointing to a >CNAME, because it would just make you do more (or longer) >queries. This RFC rule is to allow the clients to just use simple >queries. Until you have a customer paying you about $2000/mo demand you change it so that any sort of nslookup points only to their domain, not even a simple little mx record. Question: Can you point an MX directly to an ip? i.e.: ... MX 5 206.58.96.4 Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message