From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 6 18:25:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03769 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:25:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03764 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29845; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:24:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Message-ID: <19981206182459.H27271@TelcoSucks.org> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:24:59 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Smirnov Roman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Routing question Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <01be20eb$aa837d60$2e5255c2@roman.ffke-campus.mipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <01be20eb$aa837d60$2e5255c2@roman.ffke-campus.mipt.ru>; from Smirnov Roman on Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 10:40:16AM +0300 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-19980930-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 10:40:16AM +0300, Smirnov Roman wrote: > I have several PPP interfaces on a FreeBSD (which is acting as a gateway). Each of them is connected to different upper ISP. I wonder how I can do a routing like it: > > 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 through tun0 > 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 through tun1 > local(gateway) through tun2 > and so on ... You would need something like the Cisco route-map function, which (as far I know) FreeBSD does not have. > > Please, point me to any solutions or tell me that this is a dreams ... > > Sinceraly Yours, > Smirnov Roman. > -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 02:22:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11697 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 02:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jcarter.cais.com (jcarter.cais.com [205.252.8.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11679; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 02:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patton@sysnet.net) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (saturn.falcon.com [192.168.1.10]) by jcarter.cais.com (8.9.1a/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05689; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 05:02:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 05:19:06 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthew Patton Subject: wild and crazy nfs mounts (on FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org first, if there is a better forum in which to launch this, please advise. I would expect your typical ISP environment would run into cases where a single server was NFS serving, multiple OS's as well as multiple architectures. And where itself my need to NFS mount foreign filesystems or loopback on itself. I was setting up such a server which has the following layout and hit upon a nasty snag in the default /etc/rc.* series of scripts. sd0d /export/1 has FreeBSD and OpenBSD userland (./FreeBSD, ./OpenBSD/i386, ./OpenBSD/sparc, ./openBSD/alpha) sd0e /export/2 has Free and OpenBSD's src and ports trees (./FreeBSD/src, ./FreeBSD/ports etc.) sd1d /export/3 has common home directories and such so that my family of client machines mount /usr, /usr/src, /usr/ports and whatnot in a transparent fashion, I don't see how I can get away without loopback nfs mounting the latter 2 (on the server) if I want all machines to be laid out the same way. On the server I can cheat and symlink /export/1/uname to /usr. Though that is not ideal. Turns out though that the rc.network script doesn't get around to invoking nfsd till it's almost done. Worse, /etc/rc didn't get around to initting the network and thereby offering even the opportunity to NFS mount /usr, /var or any other important partition till way late in the game. Has no one run across this of late? I spent a bit of time shuffling the rc scripts around and rewriting a fair chunk of it so that 1) scans /etc/exports for file systems nfsd is going to want 2) mounts them right after /(root) goes RW 3) starts portmap and the other needed nfsd programs (note, portmap has be recompiled as static and moved to /sbin. I guess this one slipped between the cracks) 4) explicitly calls mount on /usr and /var 5) mounts everything else via -a. 6) continues with rest of boot. I also turned up a bunch of logic errors, dependencies, and bad assumptions that are either not enforced or lost. (see various blurbs in rc.conf about running certain daemons only with others or when some other condition is met) If there is interest I can provide diffs. BTW, who do I bounce this off of for further critique and maybe inclusion into the distribution tree? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 07:26:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08088 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:26:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08081 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06168 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:31:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:54:01 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: procmail setup file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... We have a customer who has two email addresses directed to one mailbox. One of the email addresses is user@abc.com and the other is sameusername@differentdomain.com The server itself handles both abc.com and differentdomain.com (the user has the choice of using either domain name for their email address). What this user would like to do is have mail for abc.com forwarded to differnetmailbox@abc.com and mail for differentdomain.com forwarded to differentmailbox@differentdomain.com I think I just made this confusing.. basically he wants email written to one domain to showup in one POP box and mail written to another to showup in a different POP box this way they are totally separate from one another. What has happened is during a merger of two different servers there was a duplicate account name that showed up and ironically both the people who had the same email address at the two different domains are competitors in the real estate industry. So, we're forcing them to take up two different email addresses on the new server and we want the "combined" address to filter out to the right user. I understand procmail can do this and it is installed on the server. My problem is that i know virtually nothing about a .procmailrc file and what goes into them. Thanks for any help. :) Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 08:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14153 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (p44-nas1.wlg.ihug.co.nz [216.100.145.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14145 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA28319; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:19:02 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:19:02 +1300 (NZDT) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Paul Stewart cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: procmail setup file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:54:01 -0500 (EST) > From: Paul Stewart > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: procmail setup file > > Hi there... > > We have a customer who has two email addresses directed to one mailbox. > One of the email addresses is user@abc.com and the other is > sameusername@differentdomain.com The server itself handles both abc.com > and differentdomain.com (the user has the choice of using either domain > name for their email address). > > What this user would like to do is have mail for abc.com forwarded to > differnetmailbox@abc.com and mail for differentdomain.com forwarded to > differentmailbox@differentdomain.com You want something like this: ----------------------- cut ------------------------ MAILDIR=$HOME/mail LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log :0 c: * To:.*sameusername@abc.com ! differnetmailbox@abc.com :0: * To:.*sameusername@differentdomain.com ! differentmailbox@differentdomain.com :0: * To:.*sameusername@abc.com /dev/null ----------------------- cut ------------------------ Just in case both addresses are referred to in the same message, the first rule will not terminate the search, but any matches for that address get terminated by the third rule. Perhaps someone can correct me on my use of lock files? check out 'man procmailrc' and 'man procmailex' for more info. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 09:24:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21319 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:24:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from compacto.nexos.com.br (ns.nexos.com.br [200.239.191.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21302 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sandro@compacto.nexos.com.br) Received: from localhost (sandro@localhost) by compacto.nexos.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20905 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:24:21 -0200 (BDB) (envelope-from sandro@compacto.nexos.com.br) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:24:21 -0200 (BDB) From: Sandro Santos Andrade To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Features of Dial Up Servers ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi friends, Anyone can give me some reference for a list of features in the main dial up servers. I need to make a benchmark, so that I can take those that is the more appropriate. Aspects like simultaneous use, public availability among others must be considered ! I have notice that there aren't many sites talking about the flavors of radius. Is the radius really a software with a poor documentation ? Anyone knows where can I find this informations ? Thanks in advance, Sandro. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 11:56:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07499 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:56:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unitel.spb.ru (unitel.spb.ru [194.85.166.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07489 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:56:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexml@unitel.spb.ru) Received: from unitel.spb.ru (korben [194.85.166.36]) by unitel.spb.ru (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05527 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:56:42 +0400 (EET) Message-ID: <366C32E3.D2FC0BD4@unitel.spb.ru> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:56:19 +0300 From: "Alex's maillists box" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 2701b6d3 subscribe freebsd-isp alexml@unitel.spb.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 13:46:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20334 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silk.net (music.silk.net [206.12.206.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20326 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@silk.net) Received: from support1 (support1.silk.net [204.244.106.67]) by silk.net (8.8.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA25077 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:46:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981207134626.006c1850@silk.net> X-Sender: eddie@silk.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:46:26 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Eddie Lawhead Subject: ? Decent ISP POS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Anyone have any suggestions on a good POS system with excellent inventory control, tracking, and sales stats ie: graphs, for managment types? TIA Eddie Lawhead Silk Internet Support eddie@silk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 15:35:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01288 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01283 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 19087 invoked from network); 8 Dec 1998 00:02:12 -0000 Received: from terry.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.174.33) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 1998 00:02:12 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:36:39 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Deepwell Internet Subject: webstats Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) What packages are best? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 16:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08436 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:29:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (p36-max8.wlg.ihug.co.nz [209.79.142.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08397 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02889; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:28:47 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:28:46 +1300 (NZDT) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Deepwell Internet cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > Hi, > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I > notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was > wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron > job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) > > What packages are best? What's good depends on what sort of information you want. We run a news site, and the main requirement is that our journalists want to have good information on what's happening on the day. We use accesswatch. Our web server puts throughabout 80,000 hits per day, and running accesswatch every hour is not a problem. The accesswatch license doesn't allow for modification, but I run a perl script daily which parses the output and pulls out aggregate statistics for the day and puts them into a tabular format suitable for graphing. accesswatch is just for giving you a view of the days activity though. It doesn't cater to agregating over longer time periods. I've used http-analyze-1.9e from the ports collection. I'm not sure if an update was put through, but the results from that program were incorrect, underestimating hits by about 50% on our site. I'd really like to have something that did a bit of session analysis. If anyone knows of anything good I'd like to hear about it. If you do a web search rolling together all the words you'd expect might turn up in titles of server statisitics pages you'll get a good look around what people are using and what the presentation is like. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 16:58:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11995 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11990 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA16553 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA05239 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:54:27 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199812080054.TAA05239@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: resolver behaviour In-Reply-To: <366C42B6.F2F7FA0F@softweyr.com> from Wes Peters at "Dec 7, 98 02:03:50 pm" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:54:27 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters recently said: > Tony Kimball wrote: > > I confused you by mentioning two related issues in one email. I > > apologize again for doing this. Please allow me to help you > > overcome this confusion by being very very explicit: The problem > > I described as bullet item 2 is present for everyone who has > > no control over their nameservice. This is the majority of users. > Hmmm. It would seem that the majority of users then need to mutiny > and replace their domain name administrators. I'm not denying this is > a problem, just that the idea of coding around the stupidity of the > legions of "IT Professionals" out there would be an impossible, never- > ending task. The 'majority' ?? If that were ture nothing would be working would it. I can't see how people can screwup something like DNS - unless they never bothered to look at it. > > The problem, restated, is this: For reasons which are not always > > evident, but probably relating to cache pollution, individual > > nameservers have bad data. NXDOMAIN replies occur for valid names. > > Applications relying on libc in FreeBSD are thereby prevented from > > making necessary connections. The occurrence is rare, but has > > become sufficiently annoying to me over time so that I am willing > > to fix it. Is any of this related to the far hosts not being reachable at that time? > Most of the time when nameservers have bad data, it has little to > do with cache pollution and much to do with incompetent management. > Such is the case with reverse lookups on my domain right now; the > named.boot file has the wrong .IN-ADDR.ARPA domain for my reverse > file so it cannot possibly work. Emails to my ISP have netted me > zero results. Is this what you're talking about? ;^) Argh!!. I had reverse problems too. I moved four class C's from one (backbone) provieder to another provided (about a hop of the backbone), and spent what seemed like an eternity moving machine IPs', web sites, etc., a few at a time, and building a new DNS as I went. Then I get a call from someone who can't download because it can't do a reverse DNS on the machine. I got reverse DNS with no problems, but if you did it outside our net nada! I figured I had missed something simple, and spent a long time going over everything - over 4000 lines of entries. I finally gave up and called the NOC. I told them the problem and they confirmed it. They said there was a problem. I asked "Yours or Mine". They said probably mine, but they'd call back. Twenty minutes later they called and said it was fixed. It was their side. They had forgotten to pull the reverse DNS from out site. I'd really not expected that from a major provider - at least a major telco. Sometimes it fall apart much higher up than you'd expect. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 17:17:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14320 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14315 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01334 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:17:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981207201746.A1288@infoteam.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:17:46 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats References: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net>; from Deepwell Internet on Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 03:36:39PM -0800 Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 03:36:39PM -0800, Deepwell Internet wrote: > Hi, > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I > notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was > wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron > job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) We have been very happy with Analog (/usr/ports/www). We have a cron job that kicks reports out every Sunday at 00:00 to all customers. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 19:17:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28983 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roble.com (roble.com [207.5.40.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28976 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roble.com (Roble) with SMTP id TAA03660 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:16:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:16:56 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Getstats is our favorite http report generator however it is not in the FreeBSD ports collection. You can find it at: http://www.uu.se/Software/Getstats/index.shtml We like the report format better than any other. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I > notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was > wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron > job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 19:24:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29853 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:24:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ethel.basspro.com (ethel.basspro.com [12.14.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29847 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from gateway.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA05142; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:25:45 -0600 Message-Id: <366C9AE2.26FBD111@basspro.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 21:20:02 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: andrew@squiz.co.nz Cc: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew McNaughton wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I > > notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was > > wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron > > job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) > > > > What packages are best? > > What's good depends on what sort of information you want. We run a news > site, and the main requirement is that our journalists want to have good > information on what's happening on the day. > > We use accesswatch. Our web server puts throughabout 80,000 hits per day, > and running accesswatch every hour is not a problem. The accesswatch > license doesn't allow for modification, but I run a perl script daily > which parses the output and pulls out aggregate statistics for the day and > puts them into a tabular format suitable for graphing. accesswatch is > just for giving you a view of the days activity though. It doesn't cater > to agregating over longer time periods. > > I've used http-analyze-1.9e from the ports collection. I'm not sure if an > update was put through, but the results from that program were incorrect, > underestimating hits by about 50% on our site. > > I'd really like to have something that did a bit of session analysis. If > anyone knows of anything good I'd like to hear about it. > > If you do a web search rolling together all the words you'd expect might > turn up in titles of server statisitics pages you'll get a good look > around what people are using and what the presentation is like. > > Andrew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message We use wusage (www.boutell.com) for our commercial sites and it works quite well. Visit trails and all. But free it ain't, even though I recommend it highly. -- Troy Kittrell troyk@basspro.com Internet Systems Coordinator Bass Pro Outdoors Online To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 19:39:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01941 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.wgn.net (mail.wgn.net [207.213.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01934 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:39:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from almazs@wgn.net) Received: from laptop (du601-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.7.93]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA00655 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:39:03 -0800 Message-ID: <366C9DFC.55F8@wgn.net> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:33:16 -0800 From: Co-app Network consulting Reply-To: almazs@wgn.net Organization: Network Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Networking short on IP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi; I am networking two FreeBSD servers to provide access to the internet <-DSL line---[DSL router]--[FreeBSD web]---[FreeBSD DNS/Mail]--- (to the net) | | T1 modem dialin---->------[RAS]-------------------------------| however I only have a 32 host IP subnet and I need as many of those IP addresses as possible to be free for dialin clients. I only need one physical LAN segiment and IP address pool for dialin clients to my RAS. What is the best way to setup my LAN so I can atleast have the max no. of IPs available for dialin clients? Thanks Dan Net-Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 19:53:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03509 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03504 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:53:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14713 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:53:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981207195306.A14595@oneinsane.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:53:06 -0800 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Roger Marquis on Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 07:16:56PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.8-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is also webalizer which is in the ports TTYL Ron On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 07:16:56PM -0800, Roger Marquis wrote: > Getstats is our favorite http report generator however it is not in the > FreeBSD ports collection. You can find it at: > > http://www.uu.se/Software/Getstats/index.shtml > > We like the report format better than any other. > > -- > Roger Marquis > Roble Systems Consulting > http://www.roble.com/ > > On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Deepwell Internet wrote: > > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I > > notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was > > wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron > > job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. [----------------------------System Info---------------------------] 7:52PM up 6 days, 2:11, 6 users, load averages: 0.81, 0.74, 0.67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 20:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08330 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (p36-max8.wlg.ihug.co.nz [209.79.142.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08319 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07671; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:42:41 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:42:40 +1300 (NZDT) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats In-Reply-To: <19981207195306.A14595@oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > There is also webalizer which is in the ports > TTYL > Ron webalizer's output format looks suspiciously similar to http-analyze. Can anyone verify that it doesn't have the same bug which causes http-analyze to misreport traffic levels? Does anyone know which has inherited from which? Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 7 21:43:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14024 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:43:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marvin.ece.utexas.edu (marvin.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.52.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14007; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bgrayson@marvin.ece.utexas.edu) Received: (from bgrayson@localhost) by marvin.ece.utexas.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id XAA08419; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:42:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19981207234256.A8409@marvin.ece.utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:42:56 -0600 From: "Brian C. Grayson" To: Matthew Patton , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wild and crazy nfs mounts (on FreeBSD) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew Patton on Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 05:19:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 07, 1998 at 05:19:06AM -0500, Matthew Patton wrote: > I was setting up such a server which has the following layout and hit upon > a nasty snag in the default /etc/rc.* series of scripts. > > sd0d /export/1 has FreeBSD and OpenBSD userland (./FreeBSD, ./OpenBSD/i386, > ./OpenBSD/sparc, ./openBSD/alpha) > sd0e /export/2 has Free and OpenBSD's src and ports trees (./FreeBSD/src, > ./FreeBSD/ports etc.) > sd1d /export/3 has common home directories and such > > so that my family of client machines mount /usr, /usr/src, /usr/ports and > whatnot in a transparent fashion, I don't see how I can get away without > loopback nfs mounting the latter 2 (on the server) if I want all machines > to be laid out the same way. On the server I can cheat and symlink > /export/1/uname to /usr. Though that is not ideal. Have you looked at non-NFS loopback mounts (mount_null)? I used them to mount /home/src as /usr/src etc. under NetBSD. Unfortunately, I believe there was some sort of race condition under NetBSD that caused occasional panics -- but maybe it has been fixed (or never was a problem) for FreeBSD! Since it doesn't require NFS, it may alleviate some of your ordering problems w.r.t. /etc/rc. I hope this helps! Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 05:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23939 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23930 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01501; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:20:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19981208072059.A1387@futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:20:59 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: andrew@squiz.co.nz, "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webstats References: <19981207195306.A14595@oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew McNaughton on Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 05:42:40PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org webalizer got its ideas from http-analyzer but it was written from scratch (first as a perl script and now a C program). It looks pretty nice. I don't like getting such a big page when you zoom into the current month statistics but other than that it's pretty nice. It's also GPL - pretty hard to beat. Tim On Tue, Dec 08, 1998 at 05:42:40PM +1300, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > > > There is also webalizer which is in the ports > > TTYL > > Ron > > webalizer's output format looks suspiciously similar to http-analyze. > Can anyone verify that it doesn't have the same bug which causes > http-analyze to misreport traffic levels? Does anyone know which has > inherited from which? > > Andrew McNaughton > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 07:00:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02609 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ninbox.ml.org (hsv1-116.airnet.net [207.242.81.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02573; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Received: from airnet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ninbox.ml.org (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00575; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:59:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <366D3EE3.CF344DBD@airnet.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:59:47 -0600 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Absolutely None! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Patton CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wild and crazy nfs mounts (on FreeBSD) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Patton wrote: > > first, if there is a better forum in which to launch this, please advise. > > I would expect your typical ISP environment would run into cases where a > single server was NFS serving, multiple OS's as well as multiple > architectures. And where itself my need to NFS mount foreign filesystems or > loopback on itself. > > I was setting up such a server which has the following layout and hit upon > a nasty snag in the default /etc/rc.* series of scripts. > > sd0d /export/1 has FreeBSD and OpenBSD userland (./FreeBSD, ./OpenBSD/i386, > ./OpenBSD/sparc, ./openBSD/alpha) > sd0e /export/2 has Free and OpenBSD's src and ports trees (./FreeBSD/src, > ./FreeBSD/ports etc.) > sd1d /export/3 has common home directories and such > > so that my family of client machines mount /usr, /usr/src, /usr/ports and > whatnot in a transparent fashion, I don't see how I can get away without > loopback nfs mounting the latter 2 (on the server) if I want all machines > to be laid out the same way. On the server I can cheat and symlink > /export/1/uname to /usr. Though that is not ideal. > > Turns out though that the rc.network script doesn't get around to invoking > nfsd till it's almost done. Worse, /etc/rc didn't get around to initting > the network and thereby offering even the opportunity to NFS mount /usr, > /var or any other important partition till way late in the game. > > Has no one run across this of late? > > I spent a bit of time shuffling the rc scripts around and rewriting a fair > chunk of it so that > > 1) scans /etc/exports for file systems nfsd is going to want > 2) mounts them right after /(root) goes RW > 3) starts portmap and the other needed nfsd programs (note, portmap has be > recompiled as static and moved to /sbin. I guess this one slipped between > the cracks) > 4) explicitly calls mount on /usr and /var > 5) mounts everything else via -a. > 6) continues with rest of boot. > > I also turned up a bunch of logic errors, dependencies, and bad assumptions > that are either not enforced or lost. (see various blurbs in rc.conf about > running certain daemons only with others or when some other condition is > met) > > If there is interest I can provide diffs. BTW, who do I bounce this off of > for further critique and maybe inclusion into the distribution tree? This looks like a job for amd. See the reference at -- Kris Kirby UAH Mail UAH CS Home WWW ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 12:46:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07615 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from archer.fsr.net (archer.fsr.net [207.141.26.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07608 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mharsh@fsr.net) Received: from localhost (mharsh@localhost) by archer.fsr.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13648; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:46:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:46:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harshbarger To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Leftover qpopper drop files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently moved my mail server from a Solaris x86 platform over to FreeBSD. I *love* the performance improvement, but I've run into an irritating qpopper problem. As a friend put it: "Oh, you've got the new qpopperdropper!" :) I've ran qpopper 2.53 on both systems. Qpopper creates a temporary drop file named /var/mail/.username.pop. On Solaris, this file was deleted after use. They hang around in FreeBSD. If a new customer happens to pick the same username as a old, deleted account, they'll get this error when they try to pop their mail: -ERR System error, can't open temporary file, do you own it? And then I get to jump in and either delete or chown the leftover temporary drop file. I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this problem, or if I've caused it with a compile-time option or an ignorant filesystem choice. Right now, /var/mail is a symlink pointing at a directory in a ccd array mounted with the 'noatime' option. (noatime is a holdover when I was experimenting with inn on this ccd, and I'm thinking I should get rid of it) It'd be easy for me to cron a script that would chown the temporary files to the correct userid or simply delete ancient ones, but I don't want to if I can fix this problem another way. Thanks in advance, ___ ___ ___ | __/ __|_ _| Mike Harshbarger, First Step Internet | _|\__ \| | System & Network Administrator |_| |___/___| (208) 882-8869 / 1-888-676-6377 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 14:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20312 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20299 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:24:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA050884748; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:32:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:32:28 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Paul Stewart Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tracking Machine Bandwidth In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > HI there.. we have a customer who is co-locating with us. So, to track > the bandwidth we bought an HP 24M Managed Hub which HP told us would allow > us basic tracking of how much GB goes to their machine.... wrong! We > talked and talked to their tech people and they said nope, won't do it.. > only their switches will.... If the hub supports SNMP (the word Managed leads me to believe it just might) you will want to check out /usr/ports/net/mrtg. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 15:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26054 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26049 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:21:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (peter117-229.cgocable.net [204.101.117.229]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA18374; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:27:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <366DABC0.AA545BC5@kawartha.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:44:16 -0500 From: Paul Stewart Organization: Online Computer Distribution X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Harshbarger CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All our users have a .pop file here but none of them get any errors... is this unique or the way it's supposed to be? :) Paul Mike Harshbarger wrote: > > I've recently moved my mail server from a Solaris x86 platform over to > FreeBSD. I *love* the performance improvement, but I've run into an > irritating qpopper problem. As a friend put it: "Oh, you've got the new > qpopperdropper!" :) > > I've ran qpopper 2.53 on both systems. Qpopper creates a temporary drop > file named /var/mail/.username.pop. On Solaris, this file was deleted > after use. They hang around in FreeBSD. If a new customer happens to pick > the same username as a old, deleted account, they'll get this error when > they try to pop their mail: > > -ERR System error, can't open temporary file, do you own it? > > And then I get to jump in and either delete or chown the leftover > temporary drop file. > > I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this problem, or if I've caused it > with a compile-time option or an ignorant filesystem choice. Right now, > /var/mail is a symlink pointing at a directory in a ccd array mounted with > the 'noatime' option. (noatime is a holdover when I was experimenting with > inn on this ccd, and I'm thinking I should get rid of it) > > It'd be easy for me to cron a script that would chown the temporary files > to the correct userid or simply delete ancient ones, but I don't want to > if I can fix this problem another way. > > Thanks in advance, > > ___ ___ ___ > | __/ __|_ _| Mike Harshbarger, First Step Internet > | _|\__ \| | System & Network Administrator > |_| |___/___| (208) 882-8869 / 1-888-676-6377 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 16:02:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01036 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abused.com (abused.com [204.216.142.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01031 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gvbmail@tns.net) Received: from gvb (gvb.tns.net [204.216.245.137]) by abused.com (8.9.1a/I feel abused.) with SMTP id QAA04830; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:01:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981208155947.00a83620@abused.com> X-Sender: gvbmail@mail.tns.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:00:39 -0800 To: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: GVB Subject: Re: webstats In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also, forgot to mention that you can output the stats to HTML, so basically we setup webstats.domain.com and output all web logs to a page where customers click on their domain name to get their stats... works really good... GVB At 03:36 PM 12/7/98 -0800, Deepwell Internet wrote: >Hi, > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I >notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was >wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron >job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) > >What packages are best? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 16:02:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01052 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abused.com (abused.com [204.216.142.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01040 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gvbmail@tns.net) Received: from gvb (gvb.tns.net [204.216.245.137]) by abused.com (8.9.1a/I feel abused.) with SMTP id PAA04818; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:59:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981208155818.00a707b0@abused.com> X-Sender: gvbmail@mail.tns.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:58:57 -0800 To: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: GVB Subject: Re: webstats In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981207153320.009c56f0@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use webalizer here for about 100 or so virtual domains.. It works great.. very detailed, and its free. Not too bad speed wise and I run it every night. GVB At 03:36 PM 12/7/98 -0800, Deepwell Internet wrote: >Hi, > I'm running a freebsd 3.0 machine with apache as our webserver. I >notice there are many packages available to run webstatistics and I was >wondering what the recommendations were. I'm looking to put this in a cron >job monthly (or possibly weekly if there is enough demand) > >What packages are best? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 16:13:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04389 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from liquid.tpb.net (drum-n-bass.party-animals.com [194.134.94.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04383 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:13:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.1a/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id BAA02486 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 01:13:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 01:13:17 +0100 (CET) From: N To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files In-Reply-To: <366DABC0.AA545BC5@kawartha.com> Message-ID: <981209010843.2226A-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Paul Stewart: > All our users have a .pop file here but none of them get any errors... > is this unique or the way it's supposed to be? :) Did you actually read his problem description? Quoth Mike Harshbarger: | I've ran qpopper 2.53 on both systems. Qpopper creates a temporary drop | file named /var/mail/.username.pop. On Solaris, this file was deleted | after use. They hang around in FreeBSD. If a new customer happens to pick | the same username as a old, deleted account, they'll get this error when | they try to pop their mail: | -ERR System error, can't open temporary file, do you own it? Keyword is "new customer" - this implies "new/different userid" which means qpopper cannot (after having done a setuid() to the target user) open the temporary drop box since it's owned by another userid (one that isn't even present in /etc/passwd [anymore]). It could have something to do with SERVER_MODE. Was it defined on the Solaris x86 version during compile time? As far as I know Solaris doesn't do any cleansing of temporary directories, except that all contents of /tmp are lost after a reboot. -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 16:56:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08255 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:56:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08250 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:56:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA04020 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981208165650.A3848@oneinsane.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:56:50 -0800 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <366DABC0.AA545BC5@kawartha.com> <981209010843.2226A-100000@liquid.tpb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <981209010843.2226A-100000@liquid.tpb.net>; from N on Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 01:13:17AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.8-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I am not mistaken when you do a rmuser it removes those files.. The question is what version of FreeBSD are you using? TTFN Ron On Wed, Dec 09, 1998 at 01:13:17AM +0100, N wrote: > Quoth Paul Stewart: > > > All our users have a .pop file here but none of them get any errors... > > is this unique or the way it's supposed to be? :) > > Did you actually read his problem description? > > Quoth Mike Harshbarger: > > | I've ran qpopper 2.53 on both systems. Qpopper creates a temporary drop > | file named /var/mail/.username.pop. On Solaris, this file was deleted > | after use. They hang around in FreeBSD. If a new customer happens to pick > | the same username as a old, deleted account, they'll get this error when > | they try to pop their mail: > | -ERR System error, can't open temporary file, do you own it? > > Keyword is "new customer" - this implies "new/different userid" which > means qpopper cannot (after having done a setuid() to the target user) > open the temporary drop box since it's owned by another userid (one that > isn't even present in /etc/passwd [anymore]). > > It could have something to do with SERVER_MODE. Was it defined on the > Solaris x86 version during compile time? > > As far as I know Solaris doesn't do any cleansing of temporary > directories, except that all contents of /tmp are lost after a reboot. > > > -- Niels. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. [----------------------------System Info---------------------------] 4:55PM up 6 days, 23:14, 7 users, load averages: 0.81, 0.83, 0.70 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 18:14:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16252 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mindcrime.termfrost.org (mindcrime.termfrost.org [208.141.2.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16247 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:14:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Received: from localhost (mandrews@localhost) by mindcrime.termfrost.org (8.9.1/8.9.1/mindcrime-19980923) with ESMTP id VAA59887; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:14:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:14:20 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Andrews To: Mike Harshbarger cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Mike Harshbarger wrote: > I've recently moved my mail server from a Solaris x86 platform over to > FreeBSD. I *love* the performance improvement, but I've run into an > irritating qpopper problem. As a friend put it: "Oh, you've got the new > qpopperdropper!" :) [munch] > I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this problem, or if I've caused it > with a compile-time option or an ignorant filesystem choice. Right now, > /var/mail is a symlink pointing at a directory in a ccd array mounted with > the 'noatime' option. (noatime is a holdover when I was experimenting with > inn on this ccd, and I'm thinking I should get rid of it) It's a compile option, not the OS... I think SERVER_MODE is the name of it. Check the qpopper docs. The port for FreeBSD defines it by default, and the package you had for Solaris probably didn't. Mike Andrews (MA12) icq 6602506 -------------- mandrews@termfrost.org VP 'n' Systems/Network Administrator --------------- mandrews@dcr.net Digital Crescent, Frankfort, KY ----------- http://www.termfrost.org/ # view;touch;unzip;finger;mount;mv;mv;mv;yes;mv;yes;mv;yes;umount;sleep To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 8 18:42:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18884 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:42:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from archer.fsr.net (archer.fsr.net [207.141.26.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18879 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mharsh@fsr.net) Received: from localhost (mharsh@localhost) by archer.fsr.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14522; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:42:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:42:43 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harshbarger To: Mike Andrews cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Mike Andrews wrote: > It's a compile option, not the OS... I think SERVER_MODE is the name of > it. Check the qpopper docs. The port for FreeBSD defines it by default, > and the package you had for Solaris probably didn't. *doh* I snooped around in the source, but not INSTALL or Makefile. INSTALL: h) KEEP_TEMP_DROP - Keep the .user.pop file. It can determine the last time a user has accessed his/her mail. Makefile: O_DEFS = -DSETPROCTITLE -DKEEP_TEMP_DROP -DBSD44_DBM -DBIND43 -DBULLDB -DNONAUTHFILE='"/etc/ftpusers"' -DSKEY Thank you! You have helped. I hate the ports collection at times... well, most of the time now. > Mike Andrews (MA12) icq 6602506 -------------- mandrews@termfrost.org > VP 'n' Systems/Network Administrator --------------- mandrews@dcr.net > Digital Crescent, Frankfort, KY ----------- http://www.termfrost.org/ > # view;touch;unzip;finger;mount;mv;mv;mv;yes;mv;yes;mv;yes;umount;sleep > > ___ ___ ___ | __/ __|_ _| Mike Harshbarger, First Step Internet | _|\__ \| | System & Network Administrator |_| |___/___| (208) 882-8869 / 1-888-676-6377 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 03:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02828 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 03:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.iki.rssi.ru (mx.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.212.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02809 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 03:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (tdis.gctc.rssi.ru [193.232.26.70]) by mx.iki.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA20414 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:27:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru by tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA26437; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:23:34 +0300 Message-ID: <366E5E00.3BC3F787@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 14:24:49 +0300 From: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Organization: Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: iijppp problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good morning, sirs! I want to make a dialup server with ppp. I had install iijppp program, make a kernel with tun device, ./MAKEDEV tun0 and everything, that was described at HandBook. I am not use pap or chap authentication. The ppp-user uid is 1000 and gid is 69 (network). But when I try to dial-in with user-ppp, server answer me near: You can't use a label ttyd0 (The device ttyd0 was made by MAKEDEV) If I add "allow users user-ppp" at ppp.conf file - everything is OK! Why so? Thank you for help! Best regards, Andrew Karjagin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 04:57:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12044 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:57:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gvinpin.grad.kiev.ua (KievglavArhit-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12038 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (kulshedra [10.0.1.99]) by gvinpin.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14530; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:53:58 +0200 Message-ID: <366E8F82.B32663F1@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 14:56:02 +0000 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrew A.Karjagin" CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iijppp problem References: <366E5E00.3BC3F787@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew A.Karjagin wrote: > Good morning, sirs! > I want to make a dialup server with ppp. I had install iijppp program, > make a kernel with tun device, ./MAKEDEV tun0 and everything, that was > described at HandBook. I am not use pap or chap authentication. The > ppp-user uid is 1000 and gid is 69 (network). But when I try to dial-in > with user-ppp, server answer me near: > You can't use a label ttyd0 (The device ttyd0 was made by > MAKEDEV) > If I add "allow users user-ppp" at ppp.conf file - everything is OK! > Why so? allow users * > > Thank you for help! > Best regards, Andrew Karjagin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 07:20:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24027 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24022 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA22258 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13317 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:57:13 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199812091457.JAA13317@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Leftover qpopper drop files In-Reply-To: from Mike Harshbarger at "Dec 8, 98 12:46:40 pm" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:57:12 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Harshbarger recently said: > I've recently moved my mail server from a Solaris x86 platform > over to FreeBSD. I *love* the performance improvement, but I've > run into an irritating qpopper problem. As a friend put it: "Oh, > you've got the new qpopperdropper!" :) > I've ran qpopper 2.53 on both systems. Qpopper creates a temporary > drop file named /var/mail/.username.pop. On Solaris, this file was > deleted after use. They hang around in FreeBSD. If a new customer > happens to pick the same username as a old, deleted account, > they'll get this error when they try to pop their mail: ... > And then I get to jump in and either delete or chown the leftover > temporary drop file. Just be careful on chown. I've seen instances where a crash/disconnet of a users system leaves their current mbox in .whomever.pop. It can be used to recover, but you need to append the current mailbox contents to it if you are going to move it back. .... > It'd be easy for me to cron a script that would chown the > temporary files to the correct userid or simply delete ancient > ones, but I don't want to if I can fix this problem another way. So what constitues 'ancient'. I've seen popper dot files for casual users that are quite old. Chown has problems if the instance I mentioned above (though I've only seen it once) occures. I think the best place to handle this problem is in the script that removes the user, and have it remove the .user.pop file at the same time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 10:49:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12998 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from commnet.accn.org (commnet.accn.org [207.73.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12989 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:49:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryanm@accn.org) Received: from accn.org (nt1.accn.org [207.73.64.8]) by commnet.accn.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08641 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:49:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <366EC5D9.1F762F27@accn.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:47:53 -0500 From: ryanm X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Qpopper + Sendmail graphing Utility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know of any tools that take popper and sendmail logfiles, parse them and generate .html output?? I am looking to put some stat's up on our website so I thought I would see if there were any tools already available to do this. If you have any info you can pass on I would appreciate it. Thanks Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 12:59:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26526 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26502 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA09373; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:59:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: ryanm cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Qpopper + Sendmail graphing Utility In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:47:53 EST." <366EC5D9.1F762F27@accn.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 15:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: <9369.913237166@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ryanm wrote in message ID <366EC5D9.1F762F27@accn.org>: > Does anyone know of any tools that take popper and sendmail > logfiles, parse them and generate .html output?? I am looking > to put some stat's up on our website so I thought I would > see if there were any tools already available to do this. > If you have any info you can pass on I would appreciate it. There is a thing in the MRTG distribution to allow you to feed the output of the mailstats command into MRTG for graphing. It looks pretty raw... No idea about qpopper ... we graph some qpopper stuff, but thats more a feature of our network monitoring software than it is anything else. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 9 20:11:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23879 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vic.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23869 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by vic.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA57068 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:10:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199812100410.XAA57068@vic.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Urgent Qpopper Problem Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One of our servers is giving some really bizarre qpopper errors. Its running qpopper 2.52. Everytime you attempt to retrieve email (or just telnet to the pop3 port) it gives the following error: > Protocol pop3, server response ":Err - > unable to process from lines (envelope), change recognition modes. > port 110, secure (SSL), no server error 0x800CCC90, Error number 0x800CCC92" Anyone have any clues on that at all? This is a real mess as none of the users can get e-mail right now. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 00:23:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20073 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:23:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zet.internet.dk (zet.internet.dk [194.19.140.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20065 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@internet.dk) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by zet.internet.dk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA23646; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:23:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:23:03 +0100 (MET) From: domreg To: Paul Stewart cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: procmail setup file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:54:01 -0500 (EST) > From: Paul Stewart > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: procmail setup file > > Hi there... > > What has happened is during a merger of two different servers there was a > duplicate account name that showed up and ironically both the people who > had the same email address at the two different domains are competitors in > the real estate industry. So, we're forcing them to take up two different > email addresses on the new server and we want the "combined" address to > filter out to the right user. Look into virtusertable. You can see it as an alias-table with domains. sales@one.domain user1 sales@another.domain user2 This way you can separate the concept of usernames and email-adresses. Give all users a numbered username, and put emailadresses in alias or virtusertable It's much more clean than procmail. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 01:14:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25812 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:14:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thorin.hway.ru (thorin.hway.ru [195.170.38.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25806 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from flash@intech.hway.ru) Received: from balin.intech.hway.ru (balin.intech.hway.ru [192.168.1.25]) by thorin.hway.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26384; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:14:26 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (flash@localhost) by balin.intech.hway.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07606; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:14:25 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:14:25 +0300 (MSK) From: "Alexander V. Tischenko" To: Steve Ames cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Urgent Qpopper Problem In-Reply-To: <199812100410.XAA57068@vic.cioe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try checking out mailbox separation mode (Unix vs. MMDF). It is very likely, that your delivery program stores mail into mailbox separating it with From_ lines and qpopper expects mail to be separated with ^A's or vice versa... On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Steve Ames wrote: > > One of our servers is giving some really bizarre qpopper errors. > Its running qpopper 2.52. > > Everytime you attempt to retrieve email (or just telnet to the > pop3 port) it gives the following error: > > > Protocol pop3, server response ":Err - > > unable to process from lines (envelope), change recognition modes. > > port 110, secure (SSL), no server error 0x800CCC90, Error number 0x800CCC92" > > Anyone have any clues on that at all? This is a real mess as none of > the users can get e-mail right now. > > -Steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Alexander V. Tischenko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Integrated Network Technologies | Tel: +7 095 978-47-37 7, Miusskaya sq., Moscow, 125047 Russia | Fax: +7 095 978-47-37 Internet: flash@hway.ru | NIC: AT55-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 09:22:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17597 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from electric.tbe.net ([216.25.158.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17590 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:22:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: (qmail 3852 invoked from network); 10 Dec 1998 17:22:38 -0000 Received: from electric.tbe.net (gary@216.25.158.8) by electric.tbe.net with SMTP; 10 Dec 1998 17:22:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:22:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Named question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trying to start up Named, running BIND 8.1.2 on a 3.0-RELEASE system: FreeBSD jedi.tcdesigns.com 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 24 07:03: 45 EST 1998 root@jedi.tcdesigns.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JEDI i386 [ Getting the following errors... Anyone have any ideas? Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: starting. named 8.1.2 Sat Oct 17 16:02:16 GMT 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [216.25.158.5].53): Address already in use Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [216.25.158.5].53 Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Address already in use Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: not listening on any interfaces Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[212]: Ready to answer queries. [ Named is the only thing running on this box... Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks! ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 09:43:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19739 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:43:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kjsl.com (Limpia.KJSL.COM [198.137.202.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19730 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: (from javier@localhost) by kjsl.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26488; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812101742.JAA26488@kjsl.com> From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Named question In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary D. Margiotta writes: > Trying to start up Named, running BIND 8.1.2 on a 3.0-RELEASE system: > > FreeBSD jedi.tcdesigns.com 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 24 > 07:03: > 45 EST 1998 root@jedi.tcdesigns.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JEDI i386 > [ > > Getting the following errors... Anyone have any ideas? > > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: starting. named 8.1.2 Sat Oct 17 > 16:02:16 GMT > 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/named > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [216.25.158.5].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [216.25.158.5].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: not listening on any interfaces > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[212]: Ready to answer queries. > [ > > Named is the only thing running on this box... > > Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks! I'll guess that you have another instance of named running on that system, since the one you're trying to start can't bind to port 53. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 09:47:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20423 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:47:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20415 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 5867 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Dec 1998 17:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19981210124711.A5838@palomine.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:47:11 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: "Gary D. Margiotta" , FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: Named question References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Gary D. Margiotta on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:22:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:22:38PM -0500, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Trying to start up Named, running BIND 8.1.2 on a 3.0-RELEASE system: > > FreeBSD jedi.tcdesigns.com 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 24 > 07:03: > 45 EST 1998 root@jedi.tcdesigns.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JEDI i386 > [ > > Getting the following errors... Anyone have any ideas? > > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: starting. named 8.1.2 Sat Oct 17 > 16:02:16 GMT > 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/named > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [216.25.158.5].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [216.25.158.5].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: not listening on any interfaces > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[212]: Ready to answer queries. It looks like you're trying to start named when it's already running. In fact, it's running on that machine right now: [cjohnson@mail cjohnson]$ host www.amherst.edu 216.25.158.5 Using domain server 216.25.158.5: www.amherst.edu has address 148.85.1.57 Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 12:01:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07976 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from electric.tbe.net ([216.25.158.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07961 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:01:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: (qmail 4493 invoked from network); 10 Dec 1998 20:02:00 -0000 Received: from electric.tbe.net (gary@216.25.158.8) by electric.tbe.net with SMTP; 10 Dec 1998 20:02:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Named question (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok... should've been a little more specific, I do apologize... When the machine starts, I do a 'ps ax' and I don't see named started. Then I try to start it manually, and I end up with those errors in the log. Plus, earlier today, when the machine had been up for over 10 days, a 'ps ax' showed no signs of named running, but I could do lookups, and restarting gave the same errors. I'm running 3.0 on the secondary, and that machine has no problems... Both of the boot files were converted from older 2.2.6-RELEASE machines by the script in /usr/sbin. As I write this, on a tip from someone who replied to my earlier post, I did a 'netstat -f inet -a'. Her is the output, but I'm unsure as to whether I am supposed to see a named process here... unless it is trying to run at a higher port number: [sysadmin@jedi - Thu Dec 10] /usr/home/sysadmin $ netstat -f inet -a Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 0 2 jedi.telnet electric.tbe.net.2567 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *.login *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *.shell *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *.telnet *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* LISTEN tcp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* LISTEN udp 0 0 *.1027 *.* udp 0 0 *.who *.* udp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* udp 0 0 *.1024 *.* udp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* udp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* udp 0 0 *.syslog *.* ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:22:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Named question Trying to start up Named, running BIND 8.1.2 on a 3.0-RELEASE system: FreeBSD jedi.tcdesigns.com 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 24 07:03: 45 EST 1998 root@jedi.tcdesigns.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JEDI i386 [ Getting the following errors... Anyone have any ideas? Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: starting. named 8.1.2 Sat Oct 17 16:02:16 GMT 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [216.25.158.5].53): Address already in use Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [216.25.158.5].53 Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Address already in use Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: not listening on any interfaces Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[212]: Ready to answer queries. [ Named is the only thing running on this box... Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks! ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 13:08:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16109 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (guardian-ext.fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16096 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:04:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16594; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:04:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:04:07 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: "Gary D. Margiotta" cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: Named question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How many virtual interfaces do you have defined on this machine? On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Ok... should've been a little more specific, I do apologize... > > When the machine starts, I do a 'ps ax' and I don't see named started. > Then I try to start it manually, and I end up with those errors in the > log. Plus, earlier today, when the machine had been up for over 10 days, > a 'ps ax' showed no signs of named running, but I could do lookups, and > restarting gave the same errors. > > I'm running 3.0 on the secondary, and that machine has no problems... > Both of the boot files were converted from older 2.2.6-RELEASE machines by > the script in /usr/sbin. > > As I write this, on a tip from someone who replied to my earlier post, I > did a 'netstat -f inet -a'. Her is the output, but I'm unsure as to > whether I am supposed to see a named process here... unless it is trying > to run at a higher port number: > > [sysadmin@jedi - Thu Dec 10] > /usr/home/sysadmin $ netstat -f inet -a > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 2 jedi.telnet electric.tbe.net.2567 > ESTABLISHED > tcp 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.login *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.shell *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.telnet *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* LISTEN > udp 0 0 *.1027 *.* > udp 0 0 *.who *.* > udp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* > udp 0 0 *.1024 *.* > udp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* > udp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* > udp 0 0 *.syslog *.* > > > ______________________________________________________________ > -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 > TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 > http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:22:38 -0500 (EST) > From: "Gary D. Margiotta" > To: FreeBSD ISP List > Subject: Named question > > Trying to start up Named, running BIND 8.1.2 on a 3.0-RELEASE system: > > FreeBSD jedi.tcdesigns.com 3.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 24 > 07:03: > 45 EST 1998 root@jedi.tcdesigns.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JEDI i386 > [ > > Getting the following errors... Anyone have any ideas? > > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: starting. named 8.1.2 Sat Oct 17 > 16:02:16 GMT > 1998 jkh@kickme.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/named > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [216.25.158.5].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [216.25.158.5].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Address > already in use > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[211]: not listening on any interfaces > Dec 9 23:58:07 jedi named[212]: Ready to answer queries. > [ > > Named is the only thing running on this box... > > Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks! > > ______________________________________________________________ > -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-9696 > TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-2133 > http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 13:22:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19117 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:22:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (p38-max11.wlg.ihug.co.nz [209.78.48.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19109 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA18163; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:20:54 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:20:54 +1300 (NZDT) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: "Gary D. Margiotta" cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: Named question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > As I write this, on a tip from someone who replied to my earlier post, I > did a 'netstat -f inet -a'. Her is the output, but I'm unsure as to > whether I am supposed to see a named process here... unless it is trying > to run at a higher port number: > > [sysadmin@jedi - Thu Dec 10] > /usr/home/sysadmin $ netstat -f inet -a > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 2 jedi.telnet electric.tbe.net.2567 > ESTABLISHED > tcp 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.login *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.shell *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.telnet *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* LISTEN > tcp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* LISTEN > udp 0 0 *.1027 *.* > udp 0 0 *.who *.* > udp 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* > udp 0 0 *.1024 *.* > udp 0 0 localhost.domain *.* > udp 0 0 jedi.domain *.* > udp 0 0 *.syslog *.* Those .domain entries are your named. Sounds like your problem is with ps. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 18:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01125 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01119 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA17244; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:58:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:58:51 -0600 (CST) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Tomasz Zin cc: Sandro Santos Andrade , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simultaneous-Use directive in radiusd version 2.4.23C ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cistron. Free. :) cistron.nl I think. On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Tomasz Zin wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Sandro Santos Andrade wrote: > > > > > Hi friends, > > > > I'm tring to disallow simultaneous login in radiusd 2.4.23C, > > using the directive: > > > > Simultaneous-Use = 1 > > Fall-Through = 1 > > > > but I have no success. Anyone knows what's the error ? > > Does radiusd 2.4.23C supports this directive ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Sandro Santos Andrade > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Undergraduate Computer Science Student at University of Bahia, Brazil. > > Researcher in Medical Datasets Visualization. > > http://www.dcc.ufba.br/~sandrosa. > > > > I suppose that only commercial version of radius support this feature. > > Tomek > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 19:55:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07384 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au (smmcdialin.ultra.net.au [203.20.237.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07376; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:55:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au) Received: from localhost (bsd@localhost) by smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA06622; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:51:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from bsd@smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:51:43 +1000 (EST) From: bsd To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Accelerated serial port support??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I wish to purchase an ISDN TA. A trap is that for full speed from a 3com I need a very fast...faster than 16550 serial or some sort of accelerator card. Does anyone know of these beasties Is it a 16560 or a 16660 ?? Better still, I was told drivers are hard to come by for FreeBSD. Is there support for any one of these gadgets. Thanks Keith Spencer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 10 20:55:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14096 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14061; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id VAA19518; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:56:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:56:05 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: bsd cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Accelerated serial port support??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org look at: http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~junichi/serial.html diana On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, bsd wrote: > Hi all, I wish to purchase an ISDN TA. A trap is that for full speed from > a 3com I need a very fast...faster than 16550 serial or some sort of > accelerator card. > Does anyone know of these beasties Is it a 16560 or a 16660 ?? > Better still, I was told drivers are hard to come by for FreeBSD. > Is there support for any one of these gadgets. > Thanks > Keith Spencer > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Diana Eichert IT Manager McKinley Paper Company deeiche@mckinleypaper.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 11 02:19:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14524 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:19:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from liquid.tpb.net (drum-n-bass.party-animals.com [194.134.94.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14519 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.1a/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id LAA30862; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:15:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:15:57 +0100 (CET) From: N Reply-To: N To: Jeremy Shaffner cc: Tomasz Zin , Sandro Santos Andrade , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simultaneous-Use directive in radiusd version 2.4.23C ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981211111104.30744B-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>> I'm tring to disallow simultaneous login in radiusd 2.4.23C, >> I suppose that only commercial version of radius support this feature. > Cistron. Free. :) cistron.nl I think. Actually, Merit's commercial RADIUS daemon can do it, so can Radiator (which is also commercial). Cistron RADIUS (based loosely on Livingston RADIUS 1.16, the last free version released) uses SNMP to check whether a user is really logged in twice. It's available from , but there is a port (net/radiusd-cistron) available. Please check the archives of radius-users@livingston.com at ; it's been discussed to death several times already there. -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 11 04:16:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28179 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voyager.planb.com.au (voyager.planb.com.au [203.35.172.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28171; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin@planb.net.au) Received: from fossil.planb.com.au (fossil.planb.com.au [203.35.172.145]) by voyager.planb.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07563; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:16:34 +1100 (EST) Received: by fossil.planb.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BE2554.06910340@fossil.planb.com.au>; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:17:23 +1100 Message-ID: <01BE2554.06910340@fossil.planb.com.au> From: Kevin Sheehan To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "'bsd'" Subject: RE: Accelerated serial port support??? Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:17:21 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA28174 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Keith Spencer writes: >Hi all, I wish to purchase an ISDN TA. A trap is that for full speed from >a 3com I need a very fast...faster than 16550 serial or some sort of >accelerator card. >Does anyone know of these beasties Is it a 16560 or a 16660 ?? >Better still, I was told drivers are hard to come by for FreeBSD. >Is there support for any one of these gadgets. >Thanks Are you sure the TA you are buying has an async interface? Usually it's only the low end TA's (aka "digital modems") that use async. If you are talking about the standard Telstra issue 3com then it is async. Even so you need only worry about going beyond the standard UART if you intend on running MPPP or similar to utilise both B channels, otherwise 115kbps should be fine. Have you considered going for an internal card? Rgs, Kevin Sheehan kevin@planb.net.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 11 10:58:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11960 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11951 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shmit@natasya.noc.erols.net) Received: from natasya.noc.erols.net (natasya.noc.erols.net [207.172.25.236]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03245; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from shmit@localhost) by natasya.noc.erols.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18994; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:58:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981211135825.H26279@kublai.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:58:25 -0500 From: Brian Cully To: N , Jeremy Shaffner Cc: Tomasz Zin , Sandro Santos Andrade , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simultaneous-Use directive in radiusd version 2.4.23C ... Reply-To: shmit@kublai.com References: <981211111104.30744B-100000@liquid.tpb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <981211111104.30744B-100000@liquid.tpb.net>; from N on Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 11:15:57AM +0100 X-Sender: If your mailer pays attention to this, it's broken. X-PGP-Info: finger shmit@kublai.com for my public key. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 11:15:57AM +0100, N wrote: > >>> I'm tring to disallow simultaneous login in radiusd 2.4.23C, > >> I suppose that only commercial version of radius support this feature. > > Cistron. Free. :) cistron.nl I think. > > Actually, Merit's commercial RADIUS daemon can do it, so can Radiator > (which is also commercial). Cistron RADIUS (based loosely on Livingston > RADIUS 1.16, the last free version released) uses SNMP to check whether a > user is really logged in twice. It's available from > , but there is a port > (net/radiusd-cistron) available. I have some code that I wrote that does the same thing (even using SNMP for verification). But it runs as a seperate process and communicates with the RADIUS daemon over a UDP socket, so you need to make a couple simple mods to your daemon to make it work. It's all free, you can mail me if you want it. -- Brian Cully Macintosh -- we might not get everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams, on the Y2K problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 22:03:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16877 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16869 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA14915 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:03:44 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199812130603.AAA14915@home.dragondata.com> Subject: sendmail morons To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:03:44 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Somehow, we're on some spam software's list of open relays, I think. We aren't open to relaying, but people sure try. I'm guessing this is a bug in the software, but... when it can't relay, it leaves the connection open, then goes and tries again, and again..... root 14170 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:47PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14191 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:48PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14205 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:48PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14239 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:49PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14258 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:49PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14271 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:50PM 0:00.03 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14324 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:50PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14350 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:50PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14371 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:51PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14389 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:51PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14417 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:52PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server guy78@van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14427 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:52PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) root 14443 0.0 1.2 636 736 ?? I 11:53PM 0:00.02 sendmail: server van-wa1-17.ix.netcom.com [205.184.177.49] cmd read (sendmail) I'll end up with hundreds of these sometimes.. They timeout in 15-20 mins, but my server is thrashing so badly at that point, it's unusable. Anyone see this? Anyone know what I can do? Sendmail is almost always sitting in 'cmd read' or 'child wait'. Kevin Day DragonData To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 22:41:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20171 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:41:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from excelsior.apana.org.au (excelsior.apana.org.au [203.11.114.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20160 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by excelsior.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03870; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:41:36 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:41:35 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Kevin Day cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail morons In-Reply-To: <199812130603.AAA14915@home.dragondata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Kevin Day wrote: > Somehow, we're on some spam software's list of open relays, I think. We > aren't open to relaying, but people sure try. > > I'm guessing this is a bug in the software, but... when it can't relay, it > leaves the connection open, then goes and tries again, and again..... [snippity] > I'll end up with hundreds of these sometimes.. They timeout in 15-20 mins, > but my server is thrashing so badly at that point, it's unusable. > > Anyone see this? Anyone know what I can do? Yes, I added the IP to our local database of blocked ip's. The server returns a permission denied error (550). > Sendmail is almost always sitting in 'cmd read' or 'child wait'. Eventually, it will timeout. Regards, d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 23:12:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23108 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23093 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05907 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:10:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:10:26 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail morons In-Reply-To: <199812130603.AAA14915@home.dragondata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Kevin Day wrote: > I'll end up with hundreds of these sometimes.. They timeout in 15-20 mins, > but my server is thrashing so badly at that point, it's unusable. If it's a machine performance issue then you could try limiting the number of children: # maximum number of children we allow at one time O MaxDaemonChildren=30 If it's for a major mail server then I would _not_ recommend this, as once the limit is reached all connections to port 25 will be refused. I had a play with this the other day when someone decided to forward 150Mb+ of their email from work to their home account, and it was severely loading the system. Otherwise, you could ipfw deny the IP [range], or do it at a higher level with sendmail as another poster suggested. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe Sensation Internet Services, Melbourne Aust fidonet: 3:635/728 +61-3-9388-9260 http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ http://www.sensation.net.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 23:21:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA24580 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24575 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA20156; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:19:39 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199812130719.BAA20156@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: sendmail morons In-Reply-To: from Dean Hollister at "Dec 13, 1998 2:41:35 pm" To: dean@odyssey.apana.org.au (Dean Hollister) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:19:38 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Kevin Day wrote: > > > Somehow, we're on some spam software's list of open relays, I think. We > > aren't open to relaying, but people sure try. > > > > I'm guessing this is a bug in the software, but... when it can't relay, it > > leaves the connection open, then goes and tries again, and again..... > > [snippity] > > > I'll end up with hundreds of these sometimes.. They timeout in 15-20 mins, > > but my server is thrashing so badly at that point, it's unusable. > > > > Anyone see this? Anyone know what I can do? > > Yes, I added the IP to our local database of blocked ip's. The server > returns a permission denied error (550). > > > Sendmail is almost always sitting in 'cmd read' or 'child wait'. > > Eventually, it will timeout. > > Regards, > > d. > > I block them too, however... I end up with adding 5-10 new addresses a day this way, and have at times had 500-800 sendmail processes running. They do time out, but if 4-5 people happen to do this at once, it gets scary. There has to be a better way. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 23:32:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25246 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from excelsior.apana.org.au (excelsior.apana.org.au [203.11.114.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25203 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:31:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by excelsior.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03910; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:30:45 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from dean@odyssey.apana.org.au) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:30:45 +0800 (WST) From: Dean Hollister To: Rowan Crowe cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail morons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Rowan Crowe wrote: > If it's a machine performance issue then you could try limiting the number > of children: > > # maximum number of children we allow at one time > O MaxDaemonChildren=30 > > If it's for a major mail server then I would _not_ recommend this, as once > the limit is reached all connections to port 25 will be refused. I had a > play with this the other day when someone decided to forward 150Mb+ of > their email from work to their home account, and it was severely loading > the system. I would *not* recommend this. It would be better to configure the child process to exit if the IP is in its db. I vaguely recall something at www.sendmail.org about it. > Otherwise, you could ipfw deny the IP [range], or do it at a higher level > with sendmail as another poster suggested. Or even better, use smtpd. Then run tcp wrappers above it. Regards, d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 12 23:45:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26796 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26784 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05962; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:43:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:43:50 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Dean Hollister cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail morons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Dean Hollister wrote: > > If it's a machine performance issue then you could try limiting the number ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > of children: > > > > # maximum number of children we allow at one time > > O MaxDaemonChildren=30 > > > > If it's for a major mail server then I would _not_ recommend this, as once > > the limit is reached all connections to port 25 will be refused. I had a > > play with this the other day when someone decided to forward 150Mb+ of > > their email from work to their home account, and it was severely loading > > the system. > > I would *not* recommend this. It would be better to configure the child > process to exit if the IP is in its db. I vaguely recall something at > www.sendmail.org about it. Note that I specified "machine performance issue". I'd rather have my server have an absolute known limit where it no longer accepts new connections rather than a steady decline as more and more sendmail processes appear with each new connection. Seeing a machine run out of swap space is not fun. ;\ This absolute limit could also be of use in something like a SYN flood attack. (Note that limiting to 30 is probably _way_ too low, that's just something I've started with. Still experimenting). Also, adding in IPs requires periodic review of the database by a human. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe Sensation Internet Services, Melbourne Aust fidonet: 3:635/728 +61-3-9388-9260 http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ http://www.sensation.net.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message