From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 27 06:36:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28467 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:36:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28462 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id OAA03414; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:35:55 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:33:19 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812262149.NAA01423@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:52:29 +0100." <19981226105229.52819@sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:33:15 +0000 To: Matthias Apitz From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: two RS-232 ports for notebook Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, At 1:49 pm -0800 26/12/98, Mike Smith wrote: > [...] >> Or is there some other way to replace the IR interface >> with normal 9-pin RS-232? I want to use my notebook for collecting >> and tracing a protocol of a serial device. > >Short of taking the notebook apart and hacking some extra hardware onto >it, no. It used to be possible to buy parallel to serial converters. They won't be cheap either. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 27 10:47:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21588 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21583 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:47:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from techie@tantivy.stanford.edu) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA00833; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:46:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:46:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <199812271846.KAA00833@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, guru@Sisis.de Subject: Re: two RS-232 ports for notebook In-Reply-To: <19981226105229.52819@sisis.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 26 03:44:45 1998 > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 10:52:29 +0100 > From: Matthias Apitz > To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: two RS-232 ports for notebook > > I've one notebook with a normal RS-232 connector (9-pin) as COM1 > and an IR as COM2. Are there any PCMCIA cards which just give me the > possibility to have two normal RS-232 connectors, one as COM1 and the > other say as COM3? Or is there some other way to replace the IR interface > with normal 9-pin RS-232? I want to use my notebook for collecting > and tracing a protocol of a serial device. > Here is a excerpt from my bookmarks file, listing various pcmcia serial cards. I don't actually have any of these, so i can't provide any feedback on how well they work, but it is a starting place.. http://www.thaddeus.com/wince/hpcbg/adapter2.htm http://www.elan-digital-systems.co.uk/pcmcia/index.html http://www.premierelect.co.uk/premier/pcdoub.html http://www.premierelect.co.uk/premier/pc422.html http://www.synchrotech.com/gp-serial.html http://www.omega.com/products/dsp225.html http://www.omega.com/products/dsp200.html http://www.socketcom.com/sioprods.htm http://www.socketcom.com/diods.htm http://www.premierelect.co.uk/premier/pceths.html http://www.pc-card.com/ http://pcmcia.oaktree.com/main.cfm -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 9792, Stanford, Ca 94309-9792 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Dec 27 16:35:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26365 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26360 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21925; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:34:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA22104; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:34:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:34:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199812280034.RAA22104@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: two RS-232 ports for notebook In-Reply-To: <199812262149.NAA01423@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <19981226105229.52819@sisis.de> <199812262149.NAA01423@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I've one notebook with a normal RS-232 connector (9-pin) as COM1 > > and an IR as COM2. Are there any PCMCIA cards which just give me the > > possibility to have two normal RS-232 connectors, one as COM1 and the > > other say as COM3? > > Yes. You'll often find them advertised in magazines specialising in > industrial automation or data acquisition; the cards often have two or > four ports onboard. Be prepared to pay through the nose for them. Actually, they aren't that bad. Socket makes one that we've used that's fairly cheap. (Then again, I guess it depends on your idea of what 'pay through the nose is'.) The cheap one we use has 2 serial ports built-in to them. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 28 19:23:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06664 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jha@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06658 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jha) From: John Aughey Message-Id: <199812290323.TAA06658@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Powering down disks To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:23:21 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm wanting to use my laptop in a mobile environment where I will want to power down the disks to prevent disk damage. I'm not concerned with daemons writing to the disk periodically because I plan to boot using a memory file system and transfer information from the hard disk once at bootup time and then unmount and power down the disks. How can I power down my disks when they are not in use? This will be a disk that is not mounted anywhere, so there will not be any problems with syncing file systems and other problems commonly encountered with demand devices. Thank you John Aughey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 28 19:29:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07154 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:29:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles205.castles.com [208.214.165.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07148; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15076; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812290326.TAA15076@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Aughey cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Powering down disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:23:21 PST." <199812290323.TAA06658@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:26:21 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm wanting to use my laptop in a mobile environment where I will > want to power down the disks to prevent disk damage. I'm not > concerned with daemons writing to the disk periodically because I > plan to boot using a memory file system and transfer information > from the hard disk once at bootup time and then unmount and power > down the disks. > > How can I power down my disks when they are not in use? This will > be a disk that is not mounted anywhere, so there will not be any > problems with syncing file systems and other problems commonly > encountered with demand devices. You'll need to look into the ATA documentation and add an ioctl to the 'wd' driver to issue power-management commands to the disk. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 29 15:50:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29596 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29480 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:49:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem23.masternet.it [194.184.65.33]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06462 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:49:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <199812292349.AAA06462@scotty.masternet.it> From: "Gianmarco Giovannelli" To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:18:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Nokia 6110 & Libretto Reply-to: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have bought a Nokia 6110 gsm phone. It has an IR port and a modem (??) inside ... May I use it with Libretto 50 CT IR port ? And if yes please tell me how ... With Libretto I usually use an Nokia 8110, with a PCMCIA modem card Digicom Twin Palladio (both gsm and normal) which work like a charm. Can I now connect on the net without the use of the pcmcia card and of the cable ? Or the soft_modem recently wiped from current was used for this ? Thanks & Happy New Year... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli (http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco) "Unix expert since yesterday" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 30 03:06:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01839 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01834 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:06:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by server.noc.demon.net; id LAA28858; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:06:23 GMT Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xma028846; Wed, 30 Dec 98 11:06:07 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0zvJS2-0001SR-00; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:06:06 +0000 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tony Finch Subject: Re: Nokia 6110 & Libretto Newsgroups: chiark.mail.freebsd.mobile In-Reply-To: <199812292349.AAA06462@scotty.masternet.it> Organization: Deliberate Obfuscation To Amuse Tony Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:06:06 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gianmarco Giovannelli" wrote: > >I have bought a Nokia 6110 gsm phone. It has an IR port and a modem (??) >inside ... It doesn't have a modem :-( You have to use either the Nokia Data Suite (with FreeBSD? I don't think so) or a PCMCIA modem card that supports the 61x0 phones. The only phones I know that have built-in modems that you can use with IRDA are the Nokia 8810 and the Ericsson SH888. The 8810 is sufficiently tiny that it would go well with a Libretto :-) Tony. -- f.a.n.finch**waster dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 31 04:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26223 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26218 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) id NAA02274 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:38:33 +0100 Received: from hermes.softcon.de(193.31.10.38) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma002267; Thu Dec 31 13:38:21 1998 Received: from hunter.softcon.de (almare.SOFTCON.de [193.31.10.40]) by hermes.sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06633; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@hunter.softcon.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by mail.sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01462; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:32:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru) Message-ID: <19981231133251.47655@sisis.de> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:32:51 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: gmarco@giovannelli.it Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nokia 6110 & Libretto References: <199812292349.AAA06462@scotty.masternet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199812292349.AAA06462@scotty.masternet.it>; from Gianmarco Giovannelli on Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 07:18:33PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 07:18:33PM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > I have bought a Nokia 6110 gsm phone. It has an IR port and a modem (??) > inside ... > > May I use it with Libretto 50 CT IR port ? And if yes please tell me how ... > > With Libretto I usually use an Nokia 8110, with a PCMCIA modem card > Digicom Twin Palladio (both gsm and normal) which work like a charm. > > Can I now connect on the net without the use of the pcmcia card and of the > cable ? > Or the soft_modem recently wiped from current was used for this ? Assuming you want to use your Nokia mobile with FreeBSD... There is a project "Nokia 3810/3110/8110 Linux Driver/Tools" (see http://www.vsb.com.au/personal/hugh/3810/) and I'm in contact with the folks to see what could be done for FreeBSD. BTW: The GSM mobile Bosch 908 comes along with a build-in modem and you can simply talk with AT-commands as specified in spec GSM 07.07. Bosch is kind enough to send me a test device and I will try this with my notebook running FreeBSD. At the moment they have no RS-232 cables here in Germany for it :-(( matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@sisis.de [voc:+49 89 61308 351, fax: +49 89 61308 188] priv: guru@thias.muc.de WWW: http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ Use UNIX if you only want to re-boot for adding new hardware. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message