From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 06:49:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19188 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 06:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19183 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 06:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17675; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:49:46 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803011449.LAA17675@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Solved (Was: Haupauge tuner problems continued...) In-Reply-To: from Jonathan Hanna at "Feb 28, 98 02:20:40 pm" To: pangolin@rogers.wave.ca Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:49:46 -0300 (EST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Jonathan Hanna) // On 28-Feb-98 Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: // > I've just downloaded the specs to see if it's possible to add an automatic // > detection to this tuner. I've seen from the driver source that you added // > the patches to this tuner. Have you already tried to do this ? // // Sadly, I was too lazy. There are utilities to read the i2c and // perhaps use that as a signature. I think Randall Hopper knows about // this. // // > Interesting enough: The windows application detected the tuner as a // > Philips FI1236 MK2. Maybe its not important for it to know the // > exact type of the tuner. // // I had no idea and did not add the MK2. I found data sheets on the FI1236MK2 // and the the FR1236, though mine claims to be a FR1236MK2. Perhaps finer // distinctions can be made if there is more real information. I got both specs, and found no difference at first read. Even in the FreeBSD driver, the only difference is in I2C adresses, and I did not find anything related to these in the tuner specs. Not even a signature. Does Haupuage cards use Temic PAL tuners ? If they use only Philips, maybe that can be the difference we are seeking to make the auto detection. // I will have to try the FM radio support next... Yeah ! Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 06:55:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19508 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 06:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19499 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 06:55:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id PAA16012; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:54:59 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:54:58 +0100 (MET) To: "Inness-Brown, Victoria" Cc: "'multimedia@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: none References: Organization: Gutteklubben Terrasse / KRST / PUMS X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav) Date: 01 Mar 1998 15:54:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Inness-Brown, Victoria"'s message of "Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:27:54 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Inness-Brown, Victoria" writes: > I'm trying to find a supplier of a FreeBSD X-Windows screen capture > utility for software documentation purposes. Is there a software > utility? Or do I have to purchase a video capture board? Please send a > list of suppliers, and if possible, a price list. I would like to have > it by this weekend, if possible. In particular, if there are any > suppliers in San Diego, California, U.S.A., I'd like to know. Suppliers? Price list? What's wrong with the hordes of free software which are *already* bundled with FreeBSD and will do what you require? For instance, install ImageMagick and type 'convert X: capture.png'. Click the crosshair in the window you want to capture (or on the root window to capture the entire screen). Wait a few seconds. Admire the result with 'display capture.png'. -- "I have a closed mind. It helps keeping the rain out." (Michael Press on a.s.r) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 12:04:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24817 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:04:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24810 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20211; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:04:04 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803012004.RAA20211@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Solved (Was: Haupauge tuner problems continued...) In-Reply-To: <199803011449.LAA17675@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis at "Mar 1, 98 11:49:46 am" To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:04:04 -0300 (EST) Cc: pangolin@rogers.wave.ca, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) // // > Interesting enough: The windows application detected the tuner as a // // > Philips FI1236 MK2. Maybe its not important for it to know the // // > exact type of the tuner. // // // // I had no idea and did not add the MK2. I found data sheets on the FI1236MK2 // // and the the FR1236, though mine claims to be a FR1236MK2. Perhaps finer // // distinctions can be made if there is more real information. // // I got both specs, and found no difference at first read. Even in the // FreeBSD driver, the only difference is in I2C adresses, and I did not // find anything related to these in the tuner specs. I finally got the guts to take off the stickers, just to find that the windows application was right: It IS a FI1236MK2, and not a FR1236MK2. I opened one of those that works without change, and the only difference is the "MK2" part. Maybe that's why the specs where equal. They should be equal or the OVERRIDE would not work. :) I should have wondered why I would have a FM tuner in a board with no FM support. Now, where could I find the specs for the non-MK2 FI1236 ? I got this one from the link on htt://ww.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html, so I think Philips just changed the page. Amancio, do you have the original .PDF ? Please, send it to me in private. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 19:15:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24488 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24483 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 19:15:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca) Received: (from taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09975; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:15:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@tor-adm1 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creating MP3's under FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: <199802231327.OAA06816@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'd recommend to use the -hq option of l3enc. Encoding takes > longer, but the resulting mp3 files are of better quality. I tried both, and I can't hear any difference at all, on any kind of music. Considering -hq takes ~3 times as long, it doesn't seem to be worth it. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 20:12:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06011 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 20:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06005 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 20:12:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca) Received: (from taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11800; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:12:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:12:21 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@tor-adm1 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creating MP3's under FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: <199802211609.RAA03033@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > using them, you still need to patch tosha, or better cdda, to grab > the pcm files and compensate the sync problems which many drives > have (don't ask for more comments on this, i am not very clear on > what is the problem and how to fix it) Hrm... is this why I consistently hear "hiccups" in certain tracks? cdd says it has jitter control, but it doesn't seem to help. The problem spots always occur at the exact same spot in a track, and appears to be tied to particular models of drives. Skips heard from a PCM file read off a 12X Toshiba XM5701 SCSI CD-ROM drive are not there using a 4X Toshiba XM5401 SCSI CD-ROM drive. This happens with both cdd and tosha. I should try some Win95-based rippers to see if they've solved the problem. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 21:49:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14831 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:49:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA14824 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id FAA19981; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:17:20 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803020417.FAA19981@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Creating MP3's under FreeBSD... To: taob@nbc.netcom.ca (Brian Tao) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:17:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Mar 1, 98 11:12:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > using them, you still need to patch tosha, or better cdda, to grab > > the pcm files and compensate the sync problems which many drives > > have (don't ask for more comments on this, i am not very clear on > > what is the problem and how to fix it) > > Hrm... is this why I consistently hear "hiccups" in certain probably yes, but i am no expert on this, i just repeat what i have read. > tracks? cdd says it has jitter control, but it doesn't seem to help. > The problem spots always occur at the exact same spot in a track, and > appears to be tied to particular models of drives. Skips heard from a this seems to be also my experience, i.e. multiple reads from a drive return the same data (including skips). i did not have the time to investigate the problem in more detail, so i have no idea on a possible fix. The ioctl for reading from ATAPI CDROM seems to return an error every now and then, presumably in presence of the hiccups. I have no idea if the problem is repeated or skipped blocks (the former would be easier to fix) and whether or not there is a deterministic procedure to recover, like say restart reading on 1-sec boundary, or whatever (it would be very strange not to have a deterministic recovery procedure). I have to say that this "sync" problem looks very odd, and i don't know if it is there voluntarily (e.g. to obstacle piracy) or it is just the result of some bug in the design of the audio CD format! cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 22:01:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16205 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:01:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16191 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA02325; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:30:39 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199803020600.QAA02325@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: taob@nbc.netcom.ca (Brian Tao), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creating MP3's under FreeBSD... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 05:17:19 BST." <199803020417.FAA19981@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 16:30:38 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hrm... is this why I consistently hear "hiccups" in certain > probably yes, but i am no expert on this, i just repeat what i have > read. Well, it sounds like jitter to me :) > > tracks? cdd says it has jitter control, but it doesn't seem to help. > > The problem spots always occur at the exact same spot in a track, and > > appears to be tied to particular models of drives. Skips heard from a > this seems to be also my experience, i.e. multiple reads from a > drive return the same data (including skips). i did not have the > time to investigate the problem in more detail, so i have no idea on a > possible fix. It could be that its trying to read it too fast... Remeber that an audio CD only has to play at single speed to sound fine, so CD ripping at >1X is harder work.. Try slowing it down and see what happens. > I have to say that this "sync" problem looks very odd, and i don't > know if it is there voluntarily (e.g. to obstacle piracy) or it is > just the result of some bug in the design of the audio CD format! Well, I have had no problems ripping CD tracks with a Win95 program on a computer with an 8X drive... I don't have access to this machine anymore tho :( Sometimes I would get problems grabbing a track, and I'd have to slow it down, or increase the amount of oversampling which compensated for jitter. (I think I found 2 tracks I couldn't rip out of about 10 cd's...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 22:37:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19567 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:37:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from person.dyn.ml.org (dynip238.efn.org [204.214.97.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19560 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:37:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) Received: from localhost (cjb@localhost) by person.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA26011 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: person.dyn.ml.org: cjb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:23 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brunner X-Sender: cjb@person.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: cjb@efn.org To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mod players crashing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Multimedia, I am having a weird problem regarding playing mods in -CURRENT. When I play a .mod file, it sounds unrecognizably distorted and then the program usually crashes/core dumps. I did a cvsup/make world on the 25th of Feb. and I'm using VOXWARE (sorry Luigi, I needed the midi support.) Mp3's and wav's still work fine If anyone has any info on this I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks. - Chris Brunner - - cjb@efn.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 22:43:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19922 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19912 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:43:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA02715; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:12:44 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199803020642.RAA02715@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: cjb@efn.org cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mod players crashing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Mar 1998 22:40:23 -0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:12:43 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am having a weird problem regarding playing mods in -CURRENT. When I > play a .mod file, it sounds unrecognizably distorted and then the program > usually crashes/core dumps. I did a cvsup/make world on the 25th of Feb. > and I'm using VOXWARE (sorry Luigi, I needed the midi support.) Mp3's and > wav's still work fine What mod player, and what sort of sound card are you using? --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 22:50:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20720 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from person.dyn.ml.org (dynip238.efn.org [204.214.97.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20713 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) Received: from localhost (cjb@localhost) by person.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA26042; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: person.dyn.ml.org: cjb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:53:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brunner X-Sender: cjb@person.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: cjb@efn.org To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mod players crashing In-Reply-To: <199803020642.RAA02715@cain.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > I am having a weird problem regarding playing mods in -CURRENT. When I > > play a .mod file, it sounds unrecognizably distorted and then the program > > usually crashes/core dumps. I did a cvsup/make world on the 25th of Feb. > > and I'm using VOXWARE (sorry Luigi, I needed the midi support.) Mp3's and > > wav's still work fine > What mod player, and what sort of sound card are you using? I have tried gmod, nspmod, and s3mod. All failed. I am using an SB32PnP. Chris Brunner cjb@efn.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 1 23:55:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29220 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29197 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08698; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803020754.XAA08698@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: cjb@efn.org cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mod players crashing In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Mar 1998 22:53:02 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 23:54:36 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I will take a look at the problem this week. Regards, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 00:51:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07532 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:51:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07490 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA00461 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:50:07 -0800 (PST) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 00:50:07 -0800 Message-ID: <457.888828607@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They're selling for $99 at Fry's Electronics in Palo Alto, CA. so I deemed it prudent to pick one up so that we could test it. Perhaps the unit I got is merely defective, but I'm totally unable to get it to see output from my VCR, set to broadcast on channel 3. Under fxtv I at least get what looks like noise, under Win95 I just get a solid blue screen and no indication that the unit is receiving any signal. I've also tested the cable, of course, and my TV has no problem receiving the VCR's signal on channel 3 when I plug it in over there. Using my little CCD video camera, I'm also able to get a picture just fine on the video input so the card's not totally dysfunctional, it just doesn't seem to want to "tune in" (and the thought of giving it hallucinogenic drugs did cross my mind, but I see no easy way to do that either :-). Any suggestions from Amancio or others? One nice side benefit to this was that I was able to merge the latest driver changes from 3.0 to 2.2 and test them, at least, so even if I can't get the RF input to work it's not a total loss. Also, how are people hooking up the audio on their cards? On this one, at least, the supplied cables are for Macintosh only and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that one uses the audio output jack to loop the signal back into one's audio card line-in jack - is that what fxtv expects to happen? Thanks! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:01:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08731 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08726 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09242; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803020901.BAA09242@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 00:50:07 PST." <457.888828607@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:01:13 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you can peel off the label on your tuner unit so you can tell us your brand/model for the tuner . It seems that the brand new Hauppauge's are using a different tuner unit. Make sure that you read the instructions carefully for what the different plugs are . With respect to the tuner, make sure that you are connected to the correct plug -- I am saying this because the Win95 app is not displaying any signals. Also, chances are that if the unit does not work on win95 it will not work on FreeBSD. All else fails you are welcome to drop the unit at my place and we can do a quick exchance. Got two Hauppauge cards over here. With respect to audio , connect the audio on the bt848 card to your line-in or audio-in to your sound card. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:23:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12916 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from login.dknet.dk (fj@login.dknet.dk [193.88.44.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12898 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:23:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fj@login.dknet.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by login.dknet.dk (8.7.5/8.6) id KAA18088; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:23:08 +0100 (MET) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199803020923.KAA18088@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 98 10:23:07 MET Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > They're selling for $99 at Fry's Electronics in Palo Alto, CA. > so I deemed it prudent to pick one up so that we could test it. > > Perhaps the unit I got is merely defective, but I'm totally unable to > get it to see output from my VCR, set to broadcast on channel 3. > Under fxtv I at least get what looks like noise, under Win95 I just > get a solid blue screen and no indication that the unit is receiving > any signal. I've also tested the cable, of course, and my TV has no > problem receiving the VCR's signal on channel 3 when I plug it in over > there. Using my little CCD video camera, I'm also able to get a > picture just fine on the video input so the card's not totally > dysfunctional, it just doesn't seem to want to "tune in" Well, the reason for the low price should be obvious now :-) If it doesn't work with Windoze, I'd suggest that you get a replacement based on the argument that the tuner is dead. If the new card doesn't work either, then it's probably because the hardware and the Windoze drivers are out of sync. In this case I'll suggest that you figure-out the type of tuner the card uses - maybe it's easy to get the FreeBSD drivers talking to it. options "OVERRIDE_TUNER=xxxx" Should be able to get you going in case the tuner is known allready, but probed wrong. > Also, how are people hooking up the audio on their cards? On this > one, at least, the supplied cables are for Macintosh only and I'm > getting the sneaking suspicion that one uses the audio output jack to > loop the signal back into one's audio card line-in jack - is that what > fxtv expects to happen? My card works by looping the autio-out jack on the TV card into line-in on my Soundblaster (the TV card even came with a 10cm cord for this). Fxtv seems work quite fine with this setup. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 35 43 33 49 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:34:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14241 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14227 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:34:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA00672; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:33:26 -0800 (PST) To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:01:13 PST." <199803020901.BAA09242@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:33:26 -0800 Message-ID: <668.888831206@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If you can peel off the label on your tuner unit so you can tell us > your brand/model for the tuner . It seems that the brand new > Hauppauge's are using a different tuner unit. Hmmm. My tuner appears to be in a sealed "can", one end of which is anchored in place with a rivet that's not easily removed without tools I don't have on hand. :-( The card is made by Integrated Micro Solutions, 2085 Hamilton Ave, 3rd floor. San Jose, CA. http://www.integratedmicro.com, 408-369-8282. If that's any help. :-) Like I said, these things are sitting in huge stacks at Fry's for $99 right now so I rather expect we'll be seeing more of them soon. I'd be more than happy to buy/swap you one. > Make sure that you read the instructions carefully for what the > different plugs are . With respect to the tuner, make sure Yeah, I did and there aren't too many options. There's a DIN plug for S/VHS, a standard video-in plug (RCA jack) which works fine and then the usual RF input jack which I've made sure is securely fastened to the VCR. No joy with the last one. :( > that you are connected to the correct plug -- I am saying this > because the Win95 app is not displaying any signals. Also, My suspicion also, but there's really nowhere else to plug it in. :( Hmmmm! > chances are that if the unit does not work on win95 it will not > work on FreeBSD. All else fails you are welcome to drop the unit > at my place and we can do a quick exchance. Got two Hauppauge > cards over here. That'd be cool, though if the Hauppage cards are valuated at more than $99 then I'll also be happy to make up the difference or simply buy one of these things for you - they're cheap, as I said. :) > With respect to audio , connect the audio on the bt848 card to > your line-in or audio-in to your sound card. That's what I thought, thanks! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:36:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14596 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14561 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:35:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09432; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:35:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803020935.BAA09432@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Jim Lowe Subject: Video ioctl interface Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:35:51 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. This time around backwards compatibility should not be a concern for at least my purpose of revising the meteor/bt848 interface is to come up with a clean implementation. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:37:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14761 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14754 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@camelot.eno.ericsson.se) Received: from camelot.eno.ericsson.se (camelot.eno.ericsson.se [150.236.172.92]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-1.12) with ESMTP id KAA15842 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:37:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from london.eno.ericsson.se (london [150.236.172.23]) by camelot.eno.ericsson.se with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA02517 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:36:25 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on HPUX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:37:28 +0730 (SST) Organization: Ericsson, Pte Ltd From: Gregory Hosler To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: video capture Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, is there a mailing list that covers the bt848 effort ? thanks, and regards, -Greg ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Gregory Hosler Date: 02-Mar-98 Time: 17:36:318 "And where were you at 00:00:00 GMT, January 1, 1970?" -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:42:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15233 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15224 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09498; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:42:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803020942.BAA09498@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gregory Hosler cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video capture In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:37:28 +0730." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:42:20 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, you have reach the correct mailing list however we are FreeBSD based. How can we help you? Regards, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 01:47:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15612 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15607 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09530; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 01:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803020947.BAA09530@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:33:26 PST." <668.888831206@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:47:37 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I just happen to work not too far away from their offices will try to give them a call tomorrow and yes I know about them for I even posted about their products a few months ago. If you can for now lets just swap cards -- so few pci slots and so many cards 8) It wouldn't surprise me if Flemming's comment is true: >If the new card doesn't work either, then it's probably because the >hardware and the Windoze drivers are out of sync. In this case I'll Based on past experience we should be able to get you going . I even have a can opener for extreme cases 8) If you can, on win95 try to find the tuner model or any clue as to what the tuner is . Cheers, Amancio > > If you can peel off the label on your tuner unit so you can tell us > > your brand/model for the tuner . It seems that the brand new > > Hauppauge's are using a different tuner unit. > > Hmmm. My tuner appears to be in a sealed "can", one end of which is > anchored in place with a rivet that's not easily removed without tools > I don't have on hand. :-( > > The card is made by Integrated Micro Solutions, 2085 Hamilton Ave, 3rd > floor. San Jose, CA. http://www.integratedmicro.com, 408-369-8282. > If that's any help. :-) Like I said, these things are sitting in huge > stacks at Fry's for $99 right now so I rather expect we'll be seeing > more of them soon. I'd be more than happy to buy/swap you one. > > > Make sure that you read the instructions carefully for what the > > different plugs are . With respect to the tuner, make sure > > Yeah, I did and there aren't too many options. There's a DIN plug for > S/VHS, a standard video-in plug (RCA jack) which works fine and then > the usual RF input jack which I've made sure is securely fastened to > the VCR. No joy with the last one. :( > > > that you are connected to the correct plug -- I am saying this > > because the Win95 app is not displaying any signals. Also, > > My suspicion also, but there's really nowhere else to plug it in. :( > Hmmmm! > > > chances are that if the unit does not work on win95 it will not > > work on FreeBSD. All else fails you are welcome to drop the unit > > at my place and we can do a quick exchance. Got two Hauppauge > > cards over here. > > That'd be cool, though if the Hauppage cards are valuated at more than > $99 then I'll also be happy to make up the difference or simply buy > one of these things for you - they're cheap, as I said. :) > > > With respect to audio , connect the audio on the bt848 card to > > your line-in or audio-in to your sound card. > > That's what I thought, thanks! > > Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 02:25:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18856 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endor.das.harvard.edu (endor.harvard.edu [128.103.50.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18847 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:25:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ddl@deas.harvard.edu) Received: (from ddl@localhost) by endor.das.harvard.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22296 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:25:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:25:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Lanciani Message-Id: <199803021025.FAA22296@endor.das.harvard.edu> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: single-frame capture with Bt848 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been trying to get a single-frame capture program to work with my STB board and I'm having an odd problem. Since the driver is a bit complex to absorb all at once :) I'm hoping someone will have already seen this. The image is captured, but there is a diagonal stripe across the top third of the image. Almost like the image is out of sync, but it otherwise isn't... I'm using a version of the meteor capture program (with a few changes to speed it up) from Bill Lloyd. (The unchanged program does the same thing.) I'm using version 1.25 of the bt driver (tried the previous one). Oh, and FreeBSD 2.2.5. I ran fxtv as a test and it more-or-less works. That is, it works only if I start the X server in a mode (16 bpp) that allows direct access to the visual. (In any other mode, I get about one frame update each time I click the camera icon twice rather than continuous video.) When it is working in direct mode the TV image is fine, but I do get random corruption on the rest of the screen from time to time when I move windows. Anyway, this was just to make sure the card was running at all... If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate it. I know the description is a bit vague and I'd be happy to send sample images for analysis if there is any interest in looking at them. :) Thanks, Dan Lanciani ddl@harvard.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 02:33:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19790 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:33:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19772 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:33:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09826; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803021033.CAA09826@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dan Lanciani cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: single-frame capture with Bt848 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 05:25:45 EST." <199803021025.FAA22296@endor.das.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 02:33:35 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Download my sample program: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/videocapture.c Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 02:56:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21976 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:56:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21962 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 02:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA20469; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:24:10 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803020924.KAA20469@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:24:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu In-Reply-To: <199803020935.BAA09432@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Mar 2, 98 01:35:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so > what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. a random idea i have had in mind for some time is to make the frame buffer read/write, and allow the card's output to be mapped anywhere in the buffer (possibly even the one of a different card), not just at the upper left corner. This would be done to allow nice picture-in-picture effects, e.g. one application could write a slide (or something similar) into the frame buffer while the Bt848 shows live video in a portion: ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx .... application output .... xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..appl....xxxxx ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..output..xxxxx ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..........xxxxx ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ..................xxxxxxxxx.. xxxxx live video xxxxxxxxxxxx ..................x video x.. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ..................xxxxxxxxx.. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the advantage would be that fxtv, vic&friends could just read from the driver rather than mess up with mixing windows etc. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 03:09:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23301 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23295 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10048; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803021109.DAA10048@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:24:09 +0100." <199803020924.KAA20469@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 03:09:16 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We should be able to do something along those lines and please bear in mind that we do have hardware clip assist which is the inverse of what you are proposing. Additionally,for the general case it will involved the driver copying the image to the user buffer and then to the X server. For the case of another card , we already do that and thats the PCI to PCI mode which is accomplished by specifying the virtual memory of the start of the memory mapped device which typically an X application does not have access to. Amancio > > I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so > > what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. > > a random idea i have had in mind for some time is to make the frame > buffer read/write, and allow the card's output to be mapped anywhere > in the buffer (possibly even the one of a different card), not just > at the upper left corner. > > This would be done to allow nice picture-in-picture effects, e.g. one > application could write a slide (or something similar) into the frame > buffer while the Bt848 shows live video in a portion: > > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > .... application output .... xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..appl....xxxxx > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..output..xxxxx > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx..........xxxxx > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ..................xxxxxxxxx.. xxxxx live video xxxxxxxxxxxx > ..................x video x.. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ..................xxxxxxxxx.. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ............................. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > the advantage would be that fxtv, vic&friends could just read from > the driver rather than mess up with mixing windows etc. > > cheers > luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 03:17:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24161 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24153 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA00308; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:16:57 -0800 (PST) To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:47:37 PST." <199803020947.BAA09530@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 03:16:57 -0800 Message-ID: <304.888837417@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well, I just happen to work not too far away from their offices will > try to give them a call tomorrow and yes I know about them for I even > posted about their products a few months ago. Cool! > If you can for now lets just swap cards -- so few pci slots and so > many cards 8) Sure. Maybe the upcoming FreeBSD-sf meeting? > Based on past experience we should be able to get you going . I even > have a can opener for extreme cases 8) > > If you can, on win95 try to find the tuner model or any clue as to what > the tuner is . Unfortunately, the Win95 utilities don't give any information on the card at all (surprise surprise :). I've been through every menu in it. FreeBSD actually offers the most information, claiming: bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 9 on pci0:19 Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. I don't think it's a Miro, but it may have gotten the tuner right. :) Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 03:58:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28127 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:58:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA28098 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 03:58:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA20601; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:26:36 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803021026.LAA20601@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:26:36 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu In-Reply-To: <199803021109.DAA10048@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Mar 2, 98 03:08:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We should be able to do something along those lines and please > bear in mind that we do have hardware clip assist which is the i had precisely that in mind, and relied on it for the second example. (and perhaps even for the first one, depending on if you want the full image or just a clipped portion... i forgot another possible application, with two or more cards, is real Picture in Picture (perhaps not really useful...) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 04:22:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03883 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA03875 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA20692; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:50:49 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803021050.LAA20692@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:50:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <457.888828607@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Mar 2, 98 00:49:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Also, how are people hooking up the audio on their cards? On this mine is connected in the path between the CDROM and the CDinput on the soundcard. when the video is off i get the CD, when on i get the tv audio (there's a switch on the Bt848 i think). The audio card might see this connection as LINE, CD, AUX ... it all depends on how the driver's knowledge matches the features of the audio card. For crystal-based MSS clones and my driver, unfortunately the CD input cannot be fed to the ADC cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 10:03:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16186 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:03:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16139 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA28292; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:02:53 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA08700; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:02:19 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980302190219.42048@follo.net> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:02:19 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. References: <199803020947.BAA09530@rah.star-gate.com> <304.888837417@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <304.888837417@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 03:16:57AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 03:16:57AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Unfortunately, the Win95 utilities don't give any information on the > card at all (surprise surprise :). I've been through every menu in it. > FreeBSD actually offers the most information, claiming: > > bktr0 rev 18 int a irq 9 on pci0:19 > Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. > > I don't think it's a Miro, but it may have gotten the tuner right. :) Sounds unlikely. These tuners (almost) qdon't give any information, either. And 'Miro' just means 'Bt848-based card I don't have any other identifying marks for' - we don't have any extra marks for the Miro, either. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 19:59:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23785 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:59:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23780 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:59:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05573 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:59:00 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803030359.AAA05573@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: fxtv question (request ?) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:59:00 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This is probably for Randall. I have now two sound cards in my computer. (A GUS for quality, a a SB16 for compatibility. :) ) I have used the gus line input for SB audio mixing, and put the bktr output into the SB line input. Now, how do I tell fxtv which mixer to use ? Assuming /dev/mixer as default is not bad, but is too limiting. Also, if I wanted to use the internal CD audio cable instead of the external and noisy line cable to get WinTV sounds into my sound card ? And if I had two bktr devices ? Would it work ? No, I'm not kidding. I'm planning a box with two or three bktr devices. :) I don't have the fxtv 0.46 sources handy, but the 0.45 had these all hardcoded. Would Randall add the code to make those selectable as Xresources ? :) BTW: Would the bktr driver work if I had two or more cards inside ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 20:24:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27883 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27877 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:24:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14461; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:23:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803030423.UAA14461@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:59:00 -0300." <199803030359.AAA05573@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 20:23:19 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > BTW: Would the bktr driver work if I had two or more cards inside ? yes, the driver works with two or more cards. I think that 3 cards and you are really pushing the PCI bus . Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Mar 2 20:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00493 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from person.dyn.ml.org (dynip228.efn.org [204.214.97.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00467; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) Received: from localhost (cjb@localhost) by person.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA00297; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:45:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjb@efn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: person.dyn.ml.org: cjb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:45:45 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brunner X-Sender: cjb@person.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: cjb@efn.org To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound problems with -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Multimedia, I did a cvsup/make world to -CURRENT early this morning (3/2/98) and now my sound is totally shot. Midis, wave, all of it. When I attempt to play a midi, nothing. When I try to play an mp3, I get about half a second and then it skips and stops; the program quits out (splay). I recompiled the kernel and set up all the PnP stuff just like I had it before and still nothing. I am using a SB 32 PnP and Voxware. Thanks a lot! - Chris Brunner - - cjb@efn.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 02:43:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19782 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com (imo30.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19773 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 02:43:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Suz4Sure@aol.com) Received: from Suz4Sure@aol.com by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HAVFa08345 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:42:20 -0500 (EST) From: Suz4Sure Message-ID: <5e982c01.34fbde8f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 05:42:20 EST To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Card Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having alot of difficulty with my tv pci card! I was wondering if there is an updated driver that OI might need. The problems seem too many to list. ........... 1. Can't get audio plugged in nbecause of connecter size on card 2. Can't get s-video to come up...only if it is played through composite. 3. can't get avi file. Won't record says that it needs a driver 4.Can't get help file to come up 5.keeps freezing up system. 6. can't find help on capture card...says it is missing. I'm ready to throw it away and go buy something else! Please help! Suzan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 03:02:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22550 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:02:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22545 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24190; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803031102.DAA24190@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Suz4Sure cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Card In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Mar 1998 05:42:20 EST." <5e982c01.34fbde8f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 03:02:41 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a Unix group and not a Win95 group. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 07:03:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21756 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.ftf.dk (root@mail.ftf.dk [129.142.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21748 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk) Received: from mail.prosa.dk ([192.168.100.2]) by firewall.ftf.dk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02584 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:53:04 +0100 Received: from deepo.prosa.dk (deepo.prosa.dk [192.168.100.10]) by mail.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) with ESMTP id QAA27266 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:12:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) id QAA03371; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:02:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19980303160232.24913@deepo.prosa.dk> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:02:32 +0100 From: Philippe Regnauld To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386 Organization: PROSA Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check this out. -----Forwarded message from Stephane Rehel ----- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 04:42:17 -0100 From: Stephane Rehel Subject: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available Source code for Moonlight Creator 0.4.1 is available. Keywords: + OpenGL / Mesa / Linux, + Radiosity, raytracing, 3d modelling, + Softimage interface look & feel. Currently implemented features include: + full 3D modelling + primitives + NURBS (in progress) + manipulate objects, polygons, vertices + importers from DXF, OFF, ASC + exporters to DXF, OFF, Rayshade, POV, VRML 1 & 2 + OpenGL real-time preview + both standard and radiosity lighting + raytraced rendering The official site of the project has changed! (Thanks to Ismael Ghalimi for providing this new location) Official site: http://www.cybersociety.com/moonlight/ Enjoy! -----End of forwarded message----- -- -[ Philippe Regnauld / sysadmin / regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk / +55.4N +11.3E ]- «Pluto placed his bad dog at the entrance of Hades to keep the dead IN and the living OUT! The archetypical corporate firewall?» - S. Kelly Bootle, ("MYTHOLOGY", in Marutukku distrib) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 09:51:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19054 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19039 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA23534; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:20:10 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803031620.RAA23534@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:20:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu In-Reply-To: <199803020935.BAA09432@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Mar 2, 98 01:35:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so > what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. not really new interface, but... I was trying to make vic use the brightness/contrast/etc controls which are available on the meteor&bt848 and ran across a few probolems in grabber-meteor.cc, ui-grabber.tcl, and also brooktree848.c ! Problems related to brooktree848.c : some ioctl are questionably located in tuner_ioctl(), e.g. BT848_SCSAT, BT848_SVSAT etc. Some of them are duplicates of the METEORxxx functions in video_ioctl(), but i do believe they still belong to video_ioctl(). My understanding from the driver code is that only a single open is allowed on the video (grabber) section, while multiple open() are possible for the tuner section. If we want to keep applications using the grabber simple, one possibility is to - give access to ALL ioctl() from /dev/bktr ; - give access to all non-capture related options from /dev/tuner (i.e. brightness, contrast, etc). This would enable the development of control-panel applications (much like xmixer etc.) to set the brightness etc, while still making applications which want to implement their controls able to do it without having to carry around two file handles. Opinions ? cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 10:16:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24116 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:16:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24065 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:16:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA30246; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:16:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:16:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199803031816.MAA30246@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:35:51 -0800 >From: Amancio Hasty > > >I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so >what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. > >This time around backwards compatibility should not be a concern for >at least my purpose of revising the meteor/bt848 interface is to >come up with a clean implementation. > I would agree. What is needed is an extensible multimedia interface. I have the framework for a start on this and will try to put it together in something I can email out to this list soon. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 10:30:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27611 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27605 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:30:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07082; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:19 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199803031830.MAA07082@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Luigi Rizzo > Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface > To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:20:10 +0100 (MET) > Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, james@miller.cs.uwm.edu > > not really new interface, but... An extensible interface which can handle hardware Mpeg and sychnronizing audio/video would really be nice. > > I was trying to make vic use the brightness/contrast/etc controls which > are available on the meteor&bt848 and ran across a few probolems in > grabber-meteor.cc, ui-grabber.tcl, and also brooktree848.c ! I have some patches for vic which will allow access to the controls for the meteor card. Do you want these? I sent them into vic@ee.lbl.gov quite some time ago, but I don't think there has been a recent release of vic. > > Problems related to brooktree848.c : > > some ioctl are questionably located in tuner_ioctl(), e.g. > BT848_SCSAT, BT848_SVSAT etc. Some of them are duplicates of > the METEORxxx functions in video_ioctl(), but i do believe they > still belong to video_ioctl(). > > My understanding from the driver code is that only a single open is > allowed on the video (grabber) section, while multiple open() are > possible for the tuner section. If we want to keep applications > using the grabber simple, one possibility is to > - give access to ALL ioctl() from /dev/bktr ; > - give access to all non-capture related options from /dev/tuner > (i.e. brightness, contrast, etc). > This would enable the development of control-panel applications > (much like xmixer etc.) to set the brightness etc, while still > making applications which want to implement their controls able to > do it without having to carry around two file handles. > Yes, having the mixer (or control) capability would be a nice feature. There is always the problem of when to reset back to default values, but I suppose that could be solved by keeping an open count. The audio drivers seem to just leave whatever the last value of the mixer was. I am not certain this is the correct thing to do. It makes debugging problems difficult if you don't have a common starting point. As Amancio suggested, a common multimedia interface for these devices would be very useful. I will try and dig up that old frame work we discuss some time ago and maybe we can work that into something useful. Do you think that old frame work is a reasonable starting point? -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 11:02:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05526 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05495 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25632; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803031825.KAA25632@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:16:10 CST." <199803031816.MAA30246@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:25:29 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I hope that we can support the Java Multimedia Interface (JMF) . Just go to http://www.javasoft.com and do a search on JMF also if you can also ask the real audio people what they would like to see in the way of multimedia interfaces. Last but not least , this is a great point for those doing multimedia development to state what they would like to see in way of interfaces. Cheers, Amancio > >Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 01:35:51 -0800 > >From: Amancio Hasty > > > > > >I think that we are now at good point to change the interface so > >what I would like to see is proposals or ideas for the new interface. > > > >This time around backwards compatibility should not be a concern for > >at least my purpose of revising the meteor/bt848 interface is to > >come up with a clean implementation. > > > > I would agree. What is needed is an extensible multimedia interface. > I have the framework for a start on this and will try to put it > together in something I can email out to this list soon. > > -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 14:09:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21866 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21800 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA24273; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:36:43 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803032036.VAA24273@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Jim Lowe) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:36:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803031830.MAA07082@miller.cs.uwm.edu> from "Jim Lowe" at Mar 3, 98 12:30:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I was trying to make vic use the brightness/contrast/etc controls which > > are available on the meteor&bt848 and ran across a few probolems in > > grabber-meteor.cc, ui-grabber.tcl, and also brooktree848.c ! > > I have some patches for vic which will allow access to the controls > for the meteor card. Do you want these? I sent them into vic@ee.lbl.gov well, a quick summary of the vic problems: - as you pointed out for the x11-grabber, the grabber name should match what the tcl code expects, i.e. "meteor" for the meteor, "x11" for x11, etc. otherwise the control panel will not be shown. The main problem in the meteor grabber is that it adds a unit number to the name. A quick workaround i implemented was to attach the first one only. but people like amancio with tons of bt848 in his machine this might be a problem :) and the fix is add calls lile proc build.meteor1 w { build.meteor w } ; proc build.meteor2 w { build.meteor w } ; proc build.meteor3 w { build.meteor w } ; in ui-grabber.tcl - the ui-grabber.tcl you sent me has meteor and bktr panels mapped to slicvideo, but the command names are different so i had to modify them. on top of this there is the aforementioned problem of bt848 controls not accessible via the grabber device, and additionaly some signed/unsigned thing which make the luminance and perhaps other controls behave rather oddly. > quite some time ago, but I don't think there has been a recent release of vic. you bet... as a matter of fact, if only we (I mean people like you, amancio, bill fenner, ...) could put together all the modifications we have, it sure would came out a much improved version of vic. e.g. one thing i don't like is some controls which are on the main menu while they would be quite useful on the main windows. > Yes, having the mixer (or control) capability would be a nice feature. > There is always the problem of when to reset back to default values, but > I suppose that could be solved by keeping an open count. The audio or by adding a 'reset' command to the mixer. > drivers seem to just leave whatever the last value of the mixer was. this was also true in voxware, i think, and i asked amancio to implement the same thing for the audio section of the bt848. My idea is, if there a device that can be set and then you can forget about it, there is no much point in forcing the user to keep it under control of a process which does nothing. devices of this kind are, in my opinion, all those who do not interfere with the main digital data paths, e.g. audio mixer and sources/sinks, home automation stuff, etc. > I am not certain this is the correct thing to do. It makes debugging > problems difficult if you don't have a common starting point. the problem is only for the mixer. in my view, all devices using cpu/memory/internal buses must be controlled by some process and shut down on close. > As Amancio suggested, a common multimedia interface for these devices > would be very useful. I will try and dig up that old frame work we > discuss some time ago and maybe we can work that into something > useful. Do you think that old frame work is a reasonable starting > point? maybe... i don't remember the details well but have the mails archived. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 19:15:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04805 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04750 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:14:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA21447; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Shan-Min Chao cc: stephw@xs4all.nl, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re: SBAWE32 In-Reply-To: <01bd4662$7017f700$011581d1@shan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Shan-Min Chao wrote: > I tried the following suggestion. It completed > successfully, and now the Playmidi program > seems to be "working". Unfortunately, no sound > comes out. Also, using the S3MOD port, I > get the following error message: > > > seqfd: 3 > PCM device 0 not installed > could not open audio device! > Mar 2 20:53:12 lvdi /kernel: PCM device 0 not installed > > Any additional ideas? Thanks in advance! Try running /dev/MAKEDEV snd0 then run cat /dev/sndstat and post the output. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Mar 3 19:23:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06601 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06589 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:23:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA23610; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:52:18 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199803040322.NAA23610@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Doug White cc: Shan-Min Chao , stephw@xs4all.nl, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SBAWE32 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:14:17 -0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:52:17 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > seems to be "working". Unfortunately, no sound > > comes out. Also, using the S3MOD port, I > > get the following error message: > > seqfd: 3 > > PCM device 0 not installed > > could not open audio device! > > Mar 2 20:53:12 lvdi /kernel: PCM device 0 not installed I think you are using Luigi's driver, right? And the card is PNP? If this is true, it uses the device /dev/dsp1, /dev/audio1 etc.. instead of / dev/dsp0 etc. So do - cd /dev ln -sf dsp1 dsp ln -sf dspW1 dspW ln -sf mixer1 mixer --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 03:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20140 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oak.internetfront.com (oak.internetfront.COM [204.101.96.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20135 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:57:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chaos@internetfront.com) From: chaos@internetfront.com Received: from Chaos.hcl.com (ppp10.hcl.COM [199.71.120.49]) by oak.thefirewall (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA10162 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:58:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980304065657.0068f884@internetfront.com> X-Sender: chaos@internetfront.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 06:57:01 -0500 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Email: chaos@internetfront.com Name: lincoln Wiliiams Company or Location: ATC Phone Number: 905 513 9741 Product or Part Number: Brooktree driver for windowa nt 4.0 Description: I am enquiring if there will be a driver comming out for the Brooktree driver for windowa nt 4.0. Thanks... ===-----------------------------=== Lincoln Markham Ontario Canada "E-Mail Address" chaos@internetfront.com ===------------------------------=== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 06:58:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14722 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:58:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14701 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:58:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08475; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:19:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:19:02 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199803041419.IAA08475@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > this might be a problem :) and the fix is add calls lile > > proc build.meteor1 w { build.meteor w } ; > proc build.meteor2 w { build.meteor w } ; > proc build.meteor3 w { build.meteor w } ; > > in ui-grabber.tcl The fix would be to change the code in grabber-meteor.cc from char *nickname_template = "Matrox Meteor %d"; to char *nickname_template = "meteor-%d"; This will cause the build.meteor to run once if there is a meteor device found on vic startup. You can do a similar change for the BrookTree device. > > - the ui-grabber.tcl you sent me has meteor and bktr panels mapped to > slicvideo, but the command names are different so i had to modify > them. on top of this there is the aforementioned problem of bt848 > controls not accessible via the grabber device, and additionaly some > signed/unsigned thing which make the luminance and perhaps other > controls behave rather oddly. If I remember correctly I have a clean patch for this somewhere. I will try and dig up my changes sometime today and forward them to you. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 08:10:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26471 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26440 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA26454; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:38:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803041438.PAA26454@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Jim Lowe) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:38:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803041419.IAA08475@miller.cs.uwm.edu> from "Jim Lowe" at Mar 4, 98 08:18:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > this might be a problem :) and the fix is add calls lile > > > > proc build.meteor1 w { build.meteor w } ; > > proc build.meteor2 w { build.meteor w } ; > > proc build.meteor3 w { build.meteor w } ; > > > > in ui-grabber.tcl > > The fix would be to change the code in grabber-meteor.cc from > char *nickname_template = "Matrox Meteor %d"; > to > char *nickname_template = "meteor-%d"; does the '-' in the name have a special meaning for vic, or what ? > If I remember correctly I have a clean patch for this somewhere. I > will try and dig up my changes sometime today and forward them to you. ok. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 09:09:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04549 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04543 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:09:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01728; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:08:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803041708.JAA01728@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chaos@internetfront.com cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 06:57:01 EST." <3.0.32.19980304065657.0068f884@internetfront.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:08:41 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Curious , what makes you think that we have anything to do with Windows? For you information FreeBSD is a not WinX... Hmm... Maybe we should go around and ask different manufacturers for their WinX bt848 drivers and load them up in the FreeBSD Bt848 web page.... Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 09:58:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12416 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from waru.life.nthu.edu.tw (frankch@waru.life.nthu.edu.tw [140.114.98.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12405 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:58:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frankch@waru.life.nthu.edu.tw) Received: (from frankch@localhost) by waru.life.nthu.edu.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04175; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:58:44 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from frankch) Message-ID: <19980305015843.15297@life.nthu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:58:43 +0800 From: Frank Chen Hsiung Chan To: Philippe Regnauld Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" References: <19980303160232.24913@deepo.prosa.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <19980303160232.24913@deepo.prosa.dk>; from Philippe Regnauld on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 04:02:32PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 04:02:32PM +0100, Philippe Regnauld wrote: > Check this out. > > -----Forwarded message from Stephane Rehel ----- > Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 04:42:17 -0100 > From: Stephane Rehel > Subject: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available > [deleted] finally got this thing work under FreeBSD... very impressive. will anyone squeez a port out of this? -- Frank Chen Hsiung Chan [žâÂíºµ](BIG5) Department of Life Science http://waru.life.nthu.edu.tw/~frankch/ National Tsing Hua University email: frankch@waru.life.nthu.edu.tw Taiwan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 10:32:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19382 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19374 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@miller.cs.uwm.edu) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09831; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:32:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:32:27 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199803041832.MAA09831@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: Video ioctl interface Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here are some diffs for the meteor driver to make things like ``hue'' controls work. I diff'ed this stuff against what is in the -current ports tree; but it should be applicable to other ports as well. I wasn't able to test the brooktree code because I don't have one of those cards, but I included it anyway. -Jim --- *** grabber-meteor.cc.ports Wed Mar 4 11:27:46 1998 --- grabber-meteor.cc Wed Mar 4 12:18:12 1998 *************** *** 43,48 **** --- 43,49 ---- * */ + #define FRAME_CNTS /* print frame counts and ftps when device stops */ #include #include #include *************** *** 50,55 **** --- 51,59 ---- #include #include #include + #ifdef FRAME_CNTS + #include + #endif #include "grabber.h" #include "crdef.h" *************** *** 92,97 **** --- 96,105 ---- u_int baseheight_; /* Width of frame to be captured */ u_int decimate_; /* division of base sizes */ volatile u_int* pyuv_; /* pointer to yuv data */ + #ifdef FRAME_CNTS + struct meteor_counts cnts_; + double start_time_; + #endif }; class Meteor422Grabber : public MeteorGrabber { *************** *** 132,140 **** MeteorScanner::MeteorScanner(const int n) { char* devname_template = "/dev/meteor%d"; ! char* nickname_template = "Matrox Meteor %d"; char* devname_template1 = "/dev/bktr%d"; ! char* nickname_template1 = "BrookTree848 %d"; --- 140,148 ---- MeteorScanner::MeteorScanner(const int n) { char* devname_template = "/dev/meteor%d"; ! char* nickname_template = "meteor-%d"; char* devname_template1 = "/dev/bktr%d"; ! char* nickname_template1 = "brooktree848-%d"; *************** *** 309,314 **** --- 317,331 ---- format(); int cmd = METEOR_CAP_SINGLE; ioctl(dev_, METEORCAPTUR, (char*)&cmd); + #ifdef FRAME_CNTS + cnts_.fifo_errors = 0; + cnts_.dma_errors = 0; + cnts_.frames_captured = 0; + cnts_.even_fields_captured = 0; + cnts_.odd_fields_captured = 0; + ioctl(dev_, METEORSCOUNT, &cnts_); + start_time_ = gettimeofday(); + #endif cmd = METEOR_CAP_CONTINOUS; ioctl(dev_, METEORCAPTUR, (char*)&cmd); *************** *** 320,325 **** --- 337,355 ---- int cmd = METEOR_CAP_STOP_CONT; ioctl(dev_, METEORCAPTUR, (char*)&cmd); + #ifdef FRAME_CNTS + double endtime = gettimeofday() ; + ioctl(dev_, METEORGCOUNT, &cnts_); + int diff = (int)((endtime-start_time_) * 1e-6 + 0.5); + printf("frames = %d, even fields = %d, odd fields = %d,\n\ + fifo errors = %d, dma errors = %d, seconds = %d", + cnts_.frames_captured, cnts_.even_fields_captured, + cnts_.odd_fields_captured, cnts_.fifo_errors, cnts_.dma_errors, + diff); + if(diff) + printf(",fps = %d", cnts_.frames_captured/diff); + printf("\n"); + #endif Grabber::stop(); } *** ui-grabber.tcl.ports Wed Mar 4 11:24:42 1998 --- ui-grabber.tcl Wed Mar 4 12:13:14 1998 *************** *** 39,44 **** --- 39,68 ---- # called foo-1, foo-2, etc. and you'll only need build.foo # + proc build.meteor w { + # + # The meteor has the same controls as the slicvideo, so just call that + # routine to build the controls. + build.slicvideo $w + $w.f.h.scale configure -command "grabber hue" + $w.f.l.cscale configure -command "grabber contrast" + $w.f.l.bscale configure -command "grabber brightness" + $w.f.c.gscale configure -command "grabber uvgain" + $w.f.c.sscale configure -command "grabber saturation" + } + + proc build.brooktree848 w { + # + # The brooktree848 has the same controls as the slicvideo, so just call that + # routine to build the controls. + build.slicvideo $w + $w.f.h.scale configure -command "grabber hue" + $w.f.l.cscale configure -command "grabber contrast" + $w.f.l.bscale configure -command "grabber brightness" + $w.f.c.gscale configure -command "grabber uvgain" + $w.f.c.sscale configure -command "grabber saturation" + } + proc build.slicvideo w { set f [smallfont] label $w.title -text "Grabber" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 11:31:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04698 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04549 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:30:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08573; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:30:19 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803041930.QAA08573@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) In-Reply-To: <199803030423.UAA14461@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Mar 2, 98 08:23:19 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:30:19 -0300 (EST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Amancio Hasty) // > BTW: Would the bktr driver work if I had two or more cards inside ? // // yes, the driver works with two or more cards. I think that 3 cards // and you are really pushing the PCI bus . I don't intend to make video streaming (at least not right now). :) But it's good to know that it's supported. Thanks. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Mar 4 13:54:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04321 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:54:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lunic.luth.se (lunic.luth.se [130.240.19.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04315 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:54:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from d91-han@ludd.luth.se) Received: from ludd.luth.se (hinken.campus.luth.se [130.240.193.157]) by lunic.luth.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09777 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:54:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34FDCCF7.2DF69D15@ludd.luth.se> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:51:53 +0100 From: Henrik Andersson Organization: Luleå University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vic and MJPEG ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm currently running FreeBSD 3.0 current and 'vic' to multicast video using my bt848-based video card. Is there a way to use the M-JPEG function of 'vic' with this setup ? Or is that only supported with hardware M-JPEG cards ? The Jpeg option in 'vic' is ghosted :-(. -- /Henrik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 03:50:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29875 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29867 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:50:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00433; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803051147.DAA00433@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Frank Chen Hsiung Chan cc: Philippe Regnauld , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:58:43 +0800." <19980305015843.15297@life.nthu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 03:47:15 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It looks very nice !! Me too I want a port 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 04:42:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06654 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA06639 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Received: from LOCAL (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 24776 on Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:30:09 GMT; id MAA24776 efrom: marc@bowtie.nl; eto: UNKNOWN Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bowtie.nl (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29045; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:27:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803051227.NAA29045@bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Frank Chen Hsiung Chan , Philippe Regnauld , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" In-reply-to: hasty's message of Thu, 05 Mar 1998 03:47:15 -0800. <199803051147.DAA00433@rah.star-gate.com> Reply-to: marc@bowtie.nl Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:27:51 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It looks very nice !! > > Me too I want a port 8) > > It's nothing compared to Blender ;) (no offence to the author of moonlight intended), which by the way is in it's early stages of running on FreeBSD!!! We're mainly wrestling with X-stuff at this stage. Regards, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 08:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01912 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01896 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05857; Thu, 5 Mar 98 11:11:38 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA09579; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:20 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305111120.49561@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:11:20 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, chaos@internetfront.com Subject: Re: your mail Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, chaos@internetfront.com References: <3.0.32.19980304065657.0068f884@internetfront.com> <199803041708.JAA01728@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803041708.JAA01728@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Mar 04, 1998 at 09:08:41AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: |Hmm... Maybe we should go around and ask different manufacturers for |their WinX bt848 drivers and load them up in the FreeBSD Bt848 web page.... Unless we want to field questions on other folks' MSW drivers and apps, let's not. :-) Chaos, could you give us some idea where you got the address of this list? Maybe we can help correct some confusion out there on somebody's web page. I'm also curious how many MSW users find this list, apparently having been informed that MSWin users or tech support personel monitor the list. I wonder if some mfgr has a link to us off their page, or if users see a mention of our having X/Windows support somewhere and they don't realize that MSWindows is only one of many "Windows" GUIs out there, ...or if when you search for bt848 in their favorite web or news search engine, we turn up a good number of hits... But I'm certainly curious. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 15:43:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10147 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:43:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10140 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18873; Thu, 5 Mar 98 18:42:31 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA12955; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:42:12 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:42:12 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Last weekend, I was helping set my brother up with his new Hauppauge Win/TV (bought in TX at Fry's) in FreeBSD. He'd tried before, but just got trash. Not being an experienced FreeBSDer (yet), he didn't know what the problem was and just put it aside. I noticed that the latest bt848 driver detected the tuner as a "Temic PAL" tuner, which surprised me and pointed to the culprit. I booted into MSW95 to find that it's actually a: Phillips FI1236 MK2 NTSC & PAL combo tuner. Knowing this, I defeated the detection with: # #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 options OVERRIDE_TUNER=9 in the kernel config file, and get him up-and-running. Having worked with the driver a bit, I had a handle on how to work around this problem, but I imagine new FreeBSD users with these new cards are more likely to just give up and think their card isn't supported. Just thought I'd post though and ask what the status was on fixing the detection for these tuners. (Is the obstacle having one of these in the hands of someone driver-savy? Lack of eeprom contents? signature? i2c?) Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 15:49:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11040 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:49:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11035 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:49:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: (from hasty@localhost) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02865; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: Amancio Hasty Message-Id: <199803052349.PAA02865@rah.star-gate.com> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, rhh@ct.picker.com Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The problem remains because no one is working on this issue. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 16:42:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19063 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19028 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19791; Thu, 5 Mar 98 19:41:16 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA13196; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:40:54 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305194053.62291@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:40:53 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: marc@bowtie.nl Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" Mail-Followup-To: marc@bowtie.nl, multimedia@freebsd.org References: <199803051147.DAA00433@rah.star-gate.com> <199803051227.NAA29045@bowtie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803051227.NAA29045@bowtie.nl>; from Marc van Kempen on Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 01:27:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Kempen: |It's nothing compared to Blender ;) (no offence to the author |of moonlight intended), which by the way is in it's early stages |of running on FreeBSD!!! We're mainly wrestling with X-stuff at this |stage. Got a URL for Blender? Is it Freeware? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 17:11:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21722 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21715 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20195; Thu, 5 Mar 98 20:09:17 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA13250; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:08:59 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305200858.25805@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:08:58 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) Mail-Followup-To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <199803030359.AAA05573@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803030359.AAA05573@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br>; from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis on Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 12:59:00AM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: | I have now two sound cards in my computer. (A GUS for quality, |a a SB16 for compatibility. :) ) I have used the gus line input |for SB audio mixing, and put the bktr output into the SB line input. |Now, how do I tell fxtv which mixer to use ? Assuming /dev/mixer |as default is not bad, but is too limiting. Ok. So do you have: TV Card -> SB Card -> GUS Card -> Audio out I can make the mixer and dsp devices used by Fxtv configurable via rsrc. Just one mixer and one dsp though :-) Consider it on the my list. (I'll get back to working on fxtv some day.) | Also, if I wanted to |use the internal CD audio cable instead of the external and noisy |line cable to get WinTV sounds into my sound card ? Yeah, Luigi's made this request as well and it's on my list. However, with cascading sound cards like you are, I don't think quality difference between external and internal will make any real difference. (The Line In on my SB32 is very low-noise BTW.) |line cable to get WinTV sounds into my sound card ? And if I |had two bktr devices ? Would it work ? No, I'm not kidding. |I'm planning a box with two or three bktr devices. :) | | I don't have the fxtv 0.46 sources handy, but the 0.45 had these |all hardcoded. Would Randall add the code to make those selectable |as Xresources ? :) | | BTW: Would the bktr driver work if I had two or more cards inside ? Others have run with this combo before. As Amancio mentioned, the driver supports it. To switch between them in Fxtv, use the deviceNumber X resource or the -deviceNumber command-line option to specify which bktr device to talk to. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 17:20:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23371 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23334 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09941; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:19:48 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803060119.WAA09941@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) In-Reply-To: <19980305200858.25805@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Mar 5, 98 08:08:58 pm" To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:19:48 -0300 (EST) Cc: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Randall Hopper) // Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: // | I have now two sound cards in my computer. (A GUS for quality, // |a a SB16 for compatibility. :) ) I have used the gus line input // |for SB audio mixing, and put the bktr output into the SB line input. // |Now, how do I tell fxtv which mixer to use ? Assuming /dev/mixer // |as default is not bad, but is too limiting. // // Ok. So do you have: TV Card -> SB Card -> GUS Card -> Audio out // // I can make the mixer and dsp devices used by Fxtv configurable via rsrc. // Just one mixer and one dsp though :-) Consider it on the my list. (I'll // get back to working on fxtv some day.) One mixer is enough. Better: One mixer per instance of fxtv, one on each of my bktr cards. :) Does DirectVideo support more than one program simultaneously ? But even if one of those is forced to map images, there's no problem. It's will not be a common setup. (But Unix is fun with strange setups, not the commom ones.) // | Also, if I wanted to // |use the internal CD audio cable instead of the external and noisy // |line cable to get WinTV sounds into my sound card ? // // Yeah, Luigi's made this request as well and it's on my list. However, with // cascading sound cards like you are, I don't think quality difference // between external and internal will make any real difference. (The Line In // on my SB32 is very low-noise BTW.) Yes, yes. I'm not using it, just thought if fxtv would support doing so. If I did not have a CDROM, I could put the SB output into GUS line input, and bktr output into GUS CD input. But for now I prefer to have more quality on my CD Audio than on TV Audio. Obviously. :) Jonny PS: Fxtv is already much better than WinTV application. With these changes, it will be unbeatable ! Long life to FreeBSD ! -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 17:45:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25660 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25654 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de) Received: from dial092.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Fri, 6 Mar 98 02:45:07 +0100 From: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de (Joachim Wunder) To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:44:52 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Reply-To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Message-ID: <34ff53d1.66263@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> In-Reply-To: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:42:12 -0500, you wrote: > Last weekend, I was helping set my brother up with his new Hauppauge >Win/TV (bought in TX at Fry's) in FreeBSD. He'd tried before, but just got >trash. Not being an experienced FreeBSDer (yet), he didn't know what the >problem was and just put it aside. > > I noticed that the latest bt848 driver detected the tuner as a "Temic >PAL" tuner, which surprised me and pointed to the culprit. I booted into >MSW95 to find that it's actually a: I have exactly the same problem, but I am in Germany and have a 405 Model with PAL B/G tuner... > > Phillips FI1236 MK2 I have a FI1216 MK2 and it was wrongly detected as "Temic PAL" tuner, too! :( > >NTSC & PAL combo tuner. Knowing this, I defeated the detection with: > > # #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 I chose a Ž5Ž here for Philips_PAL > options OVERRIDE_TUNER=9 Ž5Ž again I chose... > >in the kernel config file, and get him up-and-running. I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any sound out of it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the freebsd-driver detects it correctly as this type, but still no sound out of it. :((( Did you have similar problems and solved them already? > > Having worked with the driver a bit, I had a handle on how to work >around this problem, but I imagine new FreeBSD users with these new cards >are more likely to just give up and think their card isn't supported. > > Just thought I'd post though and ask what the status was on fixing the >detection for these tuners. (Is the obstacle having one of these in the >hands of someone driver-savy? Lack of eeprom contents? signature? i2c?) I am not quite sure, too, but do you happen to have a card with a S-VHS input on the backpanel, too? > >Thanks, > >Randall > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message Thanks for any hint why I still canŽt get no sound out of this beasty card, Joachim -- Email: Joachim.Wunder@LRZ-Muenchen.DE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 17:59:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28754 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28748 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:59:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03462; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803060159.RAA03462@rah.star-gate.com> To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:19:48 -0300." <199803060119.WAA09941@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3459.889149565.1@rah> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:59:26 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We can support multiple cards via the DMA to DMA interface with no sweat. For DMA to DMA the driver accepts a virtual address for the physicall map device. You are free to display at any point in the mmaped region. During the initial phase of the driver development I had two bt848 images blasting to the screen. In fact a PiP feature for fxtv is not a bad idea -- now I duck before Randall starts throwing things at me 8) Have Fun Guys, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 18:00:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28964 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28940 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:00:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20954; Thu, 5 Mar 98 20:59:32 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA13432; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:59:15 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305205914.58939@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:59:14 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards Mail-Followup-To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> <34ff53d1.66263@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <34ff53d1.66263@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de>; from Joachim Wunder on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 01:44:52AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joachim Wunder: |I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any sound |out of it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the |freebsd-driver detects it correctly as this type, but still no sound out |of it. :((( Did you have similar problems and solved them already? No, overriding tuner detection was all that was needed for the FI1236MK2. Sound worked fine. |> Just thought I'd post though and ask what the status was on fixing the |>detection for these tuners. (Is the obstacle having one of these in the |>hands of someone driver-savy? Lack of eeprom contents? signature? i2c?) | |I am not quite sure, too, but do you happen to have a card with a S-VHS |input on the backpanel, too? No. For inputs, std Coax RF and RCAs for VCR Video/Audio. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 18:14:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00761 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:14:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00727 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21125; Thu, 5 Mar 98 21:09:41 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA13482; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:09:23 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305210922.02925@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:09:22 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) Mail-Followup-To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980305200858.25805@ct.picker.com> <199803060119.WAA09941@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803060119.WAA09941@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br>; from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis on Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 10:19:48PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: |Does DirectVideo support more than one program simultaneously ? But |even if one of those is forced to map images, there's no problem. Amancio Hasty: |We can support multiple cards via the DMA to DMA interface with no |sweat. For DMA to DMA the driver accepts a virtual address for |the physicall map device. You are free to display at any point |in the mmaped region. During the initial phase of the driver |development I had two bt848 images blasting to the screen. |In fact a PiP feature for fxtv is not a bad idea -- now I duck |before Randall starts throwing things at me 8) Yep. And no inherent limitation as far as X goes either since we're really not using DGA. We're just stealing the frame buffer location and geometry from it, ...and then going off and doing our own thing :-) Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: |It's will not be a common setup. (But Unix is fun with strange |setups, not the commom ones.) Might as well try it -- would be cool just to see it work. If I had a spare card, wouldn't mind trying this myself -- at a 33Mhz & 41.5Mhz PCI bus speed. ;-) (Hmmm...) Wonder if any interesting problems would come up with two PCI devices DMAing to overlapping regions in the PCI address space (on the same target PCI card) at the same time. Let us know how it goes. Worse comes to worse, you can fall-back to using -disableDirectV on one or both fxtv instances. |If I did not have a CDROM, I could put the SB output into GUS line input, |and bktr output into GUS CD input. But for now I prefer to have more |quality on my CD Audio than on TV Audio. Obviously. :) Yep. Makes sense :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 18:20:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01391 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01368 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21302; Thu, 5 Mar 98 21:18:39 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA13594; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:18:20 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305211820.07267@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:18:20 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv question (request ?) Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199803060119.WAA09941@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> <199803060159.RAA03462@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803060159.RAA03462@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Thu, Mar 05, 1998 at 05:59:26PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: | During the initial phase of the driver |development I had two bt848 images blasting to the screen. |In fact a PiP feature for fxtv is not a bad idea -- now I duck |before Randall starts throwing things at me 8) Hey, cool! Gimme the patches and I'll merge 'em in :-) OR you could mail me another Bt848 -- yeah, yeah! I like that idea! 8-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 18:23:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01584 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:23:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01578 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21364; Thu, 5 Mar 98 21:23:13 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA13604; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:22:54 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305212254.26515@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:22:54 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mpeg or video manipulation tools? Mail-Followup-To: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199803010016.QAA10229@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803010016.QAA10229@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 04:16:25PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: |Does anyone know about a cool video tool for manipulating movies: |merge video images |special effects |etc.. mpegedit in the ports collection does some of this. That's the only one I'm aware of (though I haven't gone searching). Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 20:14:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20124 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:14:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20119 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12793; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:14:28 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803060414.BAA12793@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-Reply-To: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Mar 5, 98 06:42:12 pm" To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:14:28 -0300 (EST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Randall Hopper) // Just thought I'd post though and ask what the status was on fixing the // detection for these tuners. (Is the obstacle having one of these in the // hands of someone driver-savy? Lack of eeprom contents? signature? i2c?) Last week I sent a message to Hauppauge asking if they could send me the algorithm to their tuner detection used in Windows, but got no answer. :( Has anybody tried other vendors for the same ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 22:43:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12711 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12653 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:43:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.8.8/8.8.5/RADIO-1.1) id HAA01135; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:43:04 +0100 (CET) To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards References: <19980305184212.19704@ct.picker.com> <34ff53d1.66263@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> From: Frank Nobis Date: 06 Mar 1998 07:43:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de's message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:44:52 GMT" Message-ID: Lines: 113 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "jw" == Joachim Wunder writes: jw> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:42:12 -0500, you wrote: >> Last weekend, I was helping set my brother up with his new Hauppauge >> Win/TV (bought in TX at Fry's) in FreeBSD. He'd tried before, but just got >> trash. Not being an experienced FreeBSDer (yet), he didn't know what the >> problem was and just put it aside. >> >> I noticed that the latest bt848 driver detected the tuner as a "Temic >> PAL" tuner, which surprised me and pointed to the culprit. I booted into >> MSW95 to find that it's actually a: jw> I have exactly the same problem, but I am in Germany and have a 405 Model with jw> PAL B/G tuner... >> >> Phillips FI1236 MK2 jw> I have a FI1216 MK2 and it was wrongly detected as "Temic PAL" tuner, too! :( There is realley a difference between the 1236, the FI1216 and the FR1216 I have in my Modell 418 with FM radio tuner. >> >> NTSC & PAL combo tuner. Knowing this, I defeated the detection with: >> >> # #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 I made an lokal update to the last brooktree848.c (1.28) with the following defines added #define PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL 10 /* PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL */ { "Philips FR1216 PAL FM", /* the 'name' */ TTYPE_PAL, /* input type */ PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL_WADDR, /* PLL write address */ { TSA552x_FCONTROL, /* control byte for PLL */ TSA552x_FCONTROL, TSA552x_FCONTROL, TSA552x_RADIO }, { 0x00, 0x00 }, /* band-switch crosspoints */ { 0xa0, 0x90, 0x30, 0xa4 } }, /* the band-switch values */ Compare he with the NTSC Version for the 1236 and you see the difference. /* PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC */ { "Philips FR1236 NTSC FM", /* the 'name' */ TTYPE_NTSC, /* input type */ PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC_WADDR, /* PLL write address */ { TSA552x_SCONTROL, /* control byte for PLL */ TSA552x_SCONTROL, TSA552x_SCONTROL, 0x00}, { 0x00, 0x00 }, /* band-switch crosspoints */ { 0xa0, 0x90, 0x30,0x00 } }, /* the band-switch values */ jw> I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any sound out of jw> it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the freebsd-driver detects jw> it correctly as this type, but still no sound out of it. :((( Did you have jw> similar problems and solved them already? >> >> Having worked with the driver a bit, I had a handle on how to work >> around this problem, but I imagine new FreeBSD users with these new cards >> are more likely to just give up and think their card isn't supported. >> >> Just thought I'd post though and ask what the status was on fixing the >> detection for these tuners. (Is the obstacle having one of these in the >> hands of someone driver-savy? Lack of eeprom contents? signature? i2c?) At least I added the cable channels S21 - S41 for germany * Channels S21 - S41 are taken from * http://gemma.apple.com:80/dev/technotes/tn/tn1012.html * * 100 30325 800 S21 * 101 31125 800 S22 * 102 31925 800 S23 * 103 32725 800 S24 * 104 33525 800 S25 * 105 34325 800 S26 * 106 35125 800 S27 * 107 35925 800 S28 * 108 36725 800 S29 * 109 37525 800 S30 * 110 38325 800 S31 * 111 39125 800 S32 * 112 39925 800 S33 * 113 40725 800 S34 * 114 41525 800 S35 * 115 42325 800 S36 * 116 43125 800 S37 * 117 43925 800 S38 * 118 44725 800 S39 * 119 45525 800 S40 * 120 46325 800 S41 * * 121 3890 000 IFFREQ * */ static int weurope[] = { 121, (int)( 38.90 * FREQFACTOR), 0, 100, (int)(303.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(8.00 * FREQFACTOR), -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by FreeBSD Fax: +49 231 7213816 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 22:53:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15593 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15548 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.8.8/8.8.5/RADIO-1.1) id HAA01153; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:52:44 +0100 (CET) To: Amancio Hasty Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards References: <199803052349.PAA02865@rah.star-gate.com> From: Frank Nobis Date: 06 Mar 1998 07:52:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: Amancio Hasty's message of "Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:49:53 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 110 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "ah" == Amancio Hasty writes: ah> The problem remains because no one is working on this issue. ah> Amancio Just to get the wheel running again. Here is what I found out with some tools about my cards eeprom I am very sure that all the info about tuner etc. is hidden in the eeprom. We just have to find out where :-) We should collect as much information from different cards and maybe we can see be comparing what is going on. ---- Signature read with eeprom EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 12 00 00 05 48 09 36 04 15 13 a4 eb 36 10 85 05 00 00 00 01 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 8e ab 06 00 74 02 01 04 02 79 b6 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff --- Info from the w95 tv tool Model: 60324 Rev A1 V Serial: 437134 Tuner: PAL(B/G) Tuner Audio: Stereo MSP3400C Video Formats: NTSC 443, PAL BGHIDKN, SECAM LL' Teletext: SAA5284 84 12 00 00 05 48 09 36 04 15 13 a4 eb 36 10 85 05 00 00 00 01 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 8e ab 06 00 74 02 01 04 02 79 b6 2.1.8 0 5 QC 0 5 0 --- My deduction as far as I can see it Byte Value Meaning 00 84 01 12 02 00 03 00 04 05 05 48 06 09 07 36 08 04 09 15 0a 13 0b a4 L byte modell number 0c eb H byte modell number 0d 36 0e 10 0f 85 10 05 11 00 12 00 13 00 14 01 15 84 16 0a 17 00 18 01 19 01 1a 20 1b 77 1c 00 1d 40 1e 8e LSB serial number 1f ab . 20 06 . 21 00 MSB serial number 22 74 23 02 24 01 25 04 26 02 27 79 28 b6 29 00 2a 00 2b 00 2c 00 2d 00 2e 00 2f 00 Regards, Frank -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by FreeBSD Fax: +49 231 7213816 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 23:31:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29520 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:31:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29379 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00702; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803060727.XAA00702@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Frank Nobis cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "06 Mar 1998 07:52:43 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:27:42 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cool , Lets see if we can manage to get others to post their signature. Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 23:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01448 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01315 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from digs.iafrica.com [127.0.0.1] by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yArfd-0003oS-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:35:53 +0200 To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:44:52 GMT." <34ff53d1.66263@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:35:53 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any > sound out of it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the > freebsd-driver detects it correctly as this type, but still no sound > out of it. :((( Did you have similar problems and solved them already? I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip does FM and NICAM stereo decoding and spacial sound processing and mixing digitally (have a look at the data sheet). Because all the audio from the tuner is routed through this chip, not having it initialised correctly presents quite a problem if you're interested in hearing anything. My C and understanding of the driver is not good enough to fix the problem, so I boot into windows and run WinTV to initialise the MSP3401 on my card and then warm-boot into FreeBSD. This isn't such a problem because I hardly ever turn my computer off and subsequent reboots don't do a hardware reset. -- igf (Ian Freislich) http://copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 5 23:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08128 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA08115 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA01048; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:27:56 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803060627.HAA01048@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards To: iang@digs.iafrica.com (Ian Freislich) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:27:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Ian Freislich" at Mar 6, 98 09:35:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to > initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip if it is initialized through I2C commands, then perhaps you can do some experiments to find out the exact init sequence with some user-space code using the I2C ioctl() that i recently added to the driver. Then it would be trivial to bring the code in the driver for a proper initialization of the chip. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 00:14:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11270 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11252 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01140; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803060812.AAA01140@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: iang@digs.iafrica.com (Ian Freislich), Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:27:55 +0100." <199803060627.HAA01048@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:12:46 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, There are two problems here he does not know C well enough and most likely does not have the specs for the MSP340x chipset. Amancio > > I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to > > initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip > > if it is initialized through I2C commands, then perhaps you can do > some experiments to find out the exact init sequence with some > user-space code using the I2C ioctl() that i recently added to the > driver. Then it would be trivial to bring the code in the driver > for a proper initialization of the chip. > > cheers > luigi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 00:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12343 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA12171 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from digs.iafrica.com [127.0.0.1] by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yAsKZ-0004DH-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:18:11 +0200 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:27:55 +0100." <199803060627.HAA01048@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:18:11 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo... > > I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to > > initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip > > if it is initialized through I2C commands, then perhaps you can do > some experiments to find out the exact init sequence with some > user-space code using the I2C ioctl() that i recently added to the > driver. Then it would be trivial to bring the code in the driver > for a proper initialization of the chip. That I could do. My company is sending me to another part of the country for a week on a SUN Enterprise Cluster administration course, so I'll only be able to do something useful on this when I get back, I'll use the time away to have a detailed look at the data sheet and come up with some idea of an initialisation sequence. Silly question: do you have some example code using this ioctl or some short explanation. (Yeah, yeah, I know I'm too lazy to go and scour the driver or go document seeking). -- igf (Ian Freislich) http://copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 00:24:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13502 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:24:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA13442 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:24:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from digs.iafrica.com [127.0.0.1] by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yAsQB-0004Dp-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:23:59 +0200 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:12:46 PST." <199803060812.AAA01140@rah.star-gate.com> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:23:59 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty... > Hi, > > There are two problems here he does not know C well enough and most > likely does not have the specs for the MSP340x chipset. My C is ok (I spent the last couple of days making some mods to our RADIUS server to do some extra cute stuff) I'm just not comfy with kernel drivers - probably a mental block or something. I also have the data sheet for the MSP3401C which is what my card uses. I've written hardware control software before but not on the PC. -- igf (Ian Freislich) http://copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 00:32:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14842 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14823 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01416; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803060832.AAA01416@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ian Freislich cc: Luigi Rizzo , Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:23:59 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:32:23 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just play with the driver a little bit if it gets too tough we will step in. Currently, I have to focus on work related stuff for the next 2 weeks. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 00:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15503 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (root@news.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA15492 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Received: from LOCAL (uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) with IAEhv.nl; pid 14458 on Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:40:15 GMT; id IAA14458 efrom: marc@bowtie.nl; eto: UNKNOWN Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bowtie.nl (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14828; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:38:52 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199803060838.JAA14828@bowtie.nl> To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" In-reply-to: rhh's message of Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:40:53 -0500. <19980305194053.62291@ct.picker.com> Reply-to: marc@bowtie.nl Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:38:52 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19980305194053.62291@ct.picker.com>, Randall Hopper writes: >Marc van Kempen: > |It's nothing compared to Blender ;) (no offence to the author > |of moonlight intended), which by the way is in it's early stages > |of running on FreeBSD!!! We're mainly wrestling with X-stuff at this > |stage. > >Got a URL for Blender? Is it Freeware? > I'm sorry, I posted about this before, and in my enthusiasm assumed you all read it. Blender is an in-house developed animation/modeling program that has been used in commercial productions for the past eight years. In January it has been released on the Internet. Blender is currently freely available for SGI, and a port to FreeBSD/Linux is in the making. This is binary only, no source at this point, it may or may not change in the future, I don't know. see http://www.neogeo.nl Regards, Marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 01:58:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24127 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:58:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from login.dknet.dk (fj@login.dknet.dk [193.88.44.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24121 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 01:58:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fj@login.dknet.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by login.dknet.dk (8.8.8/8.6) id KAA07959; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:57:23 +0100 (MET) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <199803060957.KAA07959@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards To: iang@digs.iafrica.com (Ian Freislich) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 10:57:22 MET Cc: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ian Freislich wrote: > > I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any > > sound out of it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the > > freebsd-driver detects it correctly as this type, but still no sound > > out of it. :((( Did you have similar problems and solved them already? Yes. The values in the array controlling the MUX doesn't work for all cards. To get sound from my card I had to switch the values for selecting tuner and mute. I think we need to add a separate MUX array for each cardtype (at least for the Hauppauge ones). No, I don't mind doing it, if I get some data to work with. > I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to > initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip > does FM and NICAM stereo decoding and spacial sound processing and > mixing digitally (have a look at the data sheet). Because all the > audio from the tuner is routed through this chip, not having it > initialised correctly presents quite a problem if you're interested > in hearing anything. My card has this stereo chip too (it's actually a MSP3410D), and I've never had any problems. But maybe my version has better power-on defaults ? Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > Last week I sent a message to Hauppauge asking if they could send me the > algorithm to their tuner detection used in Windows, but got no answer. :( I once talked to a nice freindly technician at H. (he even faxed me a couple of pages from a datasheet, that I couldn't get from Philips). I asked him if he could send me any documantation on the format of their eeprom. He replied that the "powers that be" in H. had decided that the format of the eeprom was proprietary(sp?). The reason was supposed to be that they'd like to be able to change the format. He hinted that the Linux people had started a decoding project. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen It'll probably say something like "Does not compute" or "Inoperative parameters". That's Email: fj@login.dknet.dk what it says when it doesn't know and doesn't Phone: +45 35 43 33 49 want to admit it. -- Terry Pratchett: Wings To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 03:33:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04793 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04783 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 6:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29905; Fri, 6 Mar 98 06:31:42 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA15001; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:31:22 -0500 Message-Id: <19980306063122.47330@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:31:22 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: marc@bowtie.nl Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: "[rehel@worldnet.fr: ANNOUNCE: Moonlight Creator Source Code Available]" Mail-Followup-To: marc@bowtie.nl, multimedia@freebsd.org References: <19980305194053.62291@ct.picker.com> <199803060838.JAA14828@bowtie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803060838.JAA14828@bowtie.nl>; from Marc van Kempen on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 09:38:52AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Kempen: |Randall Hopper: |>Got a URL for Blender? Is it Freeware? | |I'm sorry, I posted about this before, and in my enthusiasm |assumed you all read it. Sorry about that. I did notice and read Kevin McCarthy's forward of Ton Roosendaal's post, albeit 10 minutes after posting my question. I was catching up on my multimedia list mail in reverse-chrono thread order -- I'll have to be more careful about that. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 03:44:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05641 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05636 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de) Received: from dial094.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Fri, 6 Mar 98 12:44:41 +0100 From: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de (Joachim Wunder) To: Ian Freislich Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:44:26 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Reply-To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de Message-ID: <34ffe103.75643@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:35:53 +0200, you wrote: >> I got it up and running now, too, but I desperately cannot get any >> sound out of it. :( But I have a MSP 3400C stereo on the card and the >> freebsd-driver detects it correctly as this type, but still no sound >> out of it. :((( Did you have similar problems and solved them already? > >I have a similar problem. The problem is that here is no code to >initialise the MSP340x chip, or the code isn't being run. This chip >does FM and NICAM stereo decoding and spacial sound processing and >mixing digitally (have a look at the data sheet). Because all the >audio from the tuner is routed through this chip, not having it >initialised correctly presents quite a problem if you're interested >in hearing anything. > >My C and understanding of the driver is not good enough to fix the >problem, so I boot into windows and run WinTV to initialise the >MSP3401 on my card and then warm-boot into FreeBSD. This isn't such >a problem because I hardly ever turn my computer off and subsequent >reboots don't do a hardware reset. Yup, thatŽs it! This kind of ad-hoc method works here, too! Even I have a real MSP 3400C. I looked it up on the card directly, too, to verify it... Hmmm...so we only need now a friendly person who modifies the driver a bit. :) My C-experiences arenŽt well enough, too, I think. :-o > >-- igf (Ian Freislich) >http://copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com/ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message Thanks for this worthful hint, Joachim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 04:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10002 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from brane.digs.iafrica.com (brane.digs.iafrica.com [196.7.162.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA09994 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iang@digs.iafrica.com) Received: from digs.iafrica.com [127.0.0.1] by brane.digs.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yAw52-00066p-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:18:24 +0200 To: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:44:26 GMT." <34ffe103.75643@mailhost.lrz-muenchen.de> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 14:18:23 +0200 From: Ian Freislich Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >My C and understanding of the driver is not good enough to fix the > >problem, so I boot into windows and run WinTV to initialise the > >MSP3401 on my card and then warm-boot into FreeBSD. This isn't such > >a problem because I hardly ever turn my computer off and subsequent > >reboots don't do a hardware reset. > > Yup, thatŽs it! This kind of ad-hoc method works here, too! Even I > have a real MSP 3400C. I looked it up on the card directly, too, to > verify it... > > Hmmm...so we only need now a friendly person who modifies the driver a > bit. :) My C-experiences arenŽt well enough, too, I think. :-o I'll try frobbing the chip with the I^2C ioctl() that Luigi added recently once I've had a good look at the data sheet for the MSP340x chip and find out what the registers should be set on startup to at least get some sound out of it. -- igf (Ian Freislich) http://copernicus.cpt.tech.iafrica.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 04:59:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14193 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14188 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:59:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA00321; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:58:49 -0800 (PST) To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:44:48 EST." <19980305204448.63486@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 04:58:48 -0800 Message-ID: <317.889189128@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I was noticing them at Fry's (in Dallas) this past weekend myself :-) I think I'm about set to return mine - I just can't get it to work in Windows either, and that's worisome. > I had similar trouble getting one of the newer Hauppauge NTSC Win/TV cards > working on my brother's box over the weekend. Turns out that its tuner > (Philips FI1236 MK2) actually was supported by the bt848 driver, but not > auto-detected correctly (the driver thought it was a Temic PAL). The > misconfigured tuner of course resulted in a buzzing static mess. > > Anyway, to find out the tuner type, this worked for me. Look up the > property details on the card in MSW95 (something like > Start..Settings..Control Panel..System..Device Manager..Multimedia > Devices....Properties.. Details....). For the Hauppauge > cards at least, the exact tuner name is listed on the tabs along with H/W > version, supported signal formats, etc. etc. Did it - it doesn't list any useful data at all. In fact, all the vendor info is pretty much unspecified. Looks like they didn't go out of their way to fill in this data for a $99 card. :( Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 05:00:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14364 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA14351 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:00:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 7:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01935; Fri, 6 Mar 98 07:59:31 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA15605; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:59:12 -0500 Message-Id: <19980306075911.30399@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:59:11 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: chaos@internetfront.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MSW & multimedia list (was Re: your mail) Mail-Followup-To: chaos@internetfront.com, multimedia@freebsd.org References: <3.0.32.19980306074158.006baed8@internetfront.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980306074158.006baed8@internetfront.com>; from chaos@internetfront.com on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 07:42:01AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org chaos@internetfront.com: |>Chaos, could you give us some idea where you got the address of this list? |>Maybe we can help correct some confusion out there on somebody's web page. | |If i remember correctly, I went to "www.brooktree.com" Thats where my |search took me, where I got your address from, must be from one of the |support forums that i might have E-Mailed along those lines. | |Sorry i couldn't give you a deffinet location, but if you look into it, |you might find the exact location too. No problem. Interesting though. I'll have to surf on over later and see what they're saying about us :-) |I have endem my search, being i have been getting responces like those from |your group...I feel it futile to continue.Once again, my appologies. Not a problem. It sounds like there might be some incorrect information floating around out there that we can (hopefully) help clarify. |So, you guys write stuff for Xwindows? Right. X/Windows is the primary windowing system used on most UNIX OSs, including FreeBSD. This mailing list in particular is dedicated to discussion of multimedia/ sound/video issues pertinent to the FreeBSD UNIX OS (www.freebsd.org), so it's scope includes X apps, windowing system issues, and (as you might guess) bags of other stuff as well. If you want, you might try installing FreeBSD and see what you think of our Bt848 support. Here are a few useful URLs: www.freebsd.org, www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html. FreeBSD CDs are available from Walnut Creek (www.cdrom.com) and a few other places; or you can install off the net from ftp.freebsd.org. Randall |===-----------------------------=== | Lincoln | Markham Ontario | Canada | "E-Mail Address" | chaos@internetfront.com | |===------------------------------=== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 05:05:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15449 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15439; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:05:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 8:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02065; Fri, 6 Mar 98 08:04:54 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA15643; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:04:34 -0500 Message-Id: <19980306080434.47112@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:04:34 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. Mail-Followup-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980305204448.63486@ct.picker.com> <317.889189128@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <317.889189128@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 04:58:48AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard: |> Devices....Properties.. Details....). For the Hauppauge |> cards at least, the exact tuner name is listed on the tabs along with H/W |> version, supported signal formats, etc. etc. | |Did it - it doesn't list any useful data at all. In fact, all the |vendor info is pretty much unspecified. Looks like they didn't go out |of their way to fill in this data for a $99 card. :( Hmm. Interesting. Guess Hauppauge is just a more competent manufacturer. Their base Wincast/TV cards (no stereo/dbx) cost under $99 (seems like I heard $79 months ago for folks out in CA). Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 05:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19341 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19287 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA01514; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:59:56 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803061159.MAA01514@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Status on detect fix for Hauppauge FI1236 MK2 Tuner Cards To: iang@digs.iafrica.com (Ian Freislich) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:59:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: Joachim.Wunder@lrz-muenchen.de, rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Ian Freislich" at Mar 6, 98 10:17:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Silly question: do you have some example code using this ioctl or > some short explanation. (Yeah, yeah, I know I'm too lazy to go and > scour the driver or go document seeking). there is a small program at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/txt.c which i use to control various features of my card, and uses the I2C commands to fetch Teletext pages from the SAA5246. The command are very simple. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 05:38:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20545 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20454 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20689; Thu, 5 Mar 98 20:45:05 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA13352; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:44:48 -0500 Message-Id: <19980305204448.63486@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:44:48 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. Mail-Followup-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <457.888828607@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <457.888828607@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Mar 02, 1998 at 12:50:07AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard: |They're selling for $99 at Fry's Electronics in Palo Alto, CA. |so I deemed it prudent to pick one up so that we could test it. I was noticing them at Fry's (in Dallas) this past weekend myself :-) |Perhaps the unit I got is merely defective, but I'm totally unable to |get it to see output from my VCR, set to broadcast on channel 3. |Under fxtv I at least get what looks like noise, under Win95 I just |get a solid blue screen and no indication that the unit is receiving |any signal. I've also tested the cable, of course, and my TV has no Sorry I'm a few days late chiming in on this thread -- been on vacation down South. I had similar trouble getting one of the newer Hauppauge NTSC Win/TV cards working on my brother's box over the weekend. Turns out that its tuner (Philips FI1236 MK2) actually was supported by the bt848 driver, but not auto-detected correctly (the driver thought it was a Temic PAL). The misconfigured tuner of course resulted in a buzzing static mess. Anyway, to find out the tuner type, this worked for me. Look up the property details on the card in MSW95 (something like Start..Settings..Control Panel..System..Device Manager..Multimedia Devices....Properties.. Details....). For the Hauppauge cards at least, the exact tuner name is listed on the tabs along with H/W version, supported signal formats, etc. etc. Then see if the tuner is one of those in the driver list (in brooktree848.c): /* indexes into tuners[] */ #define NO_TUNER 0 #define TEMIC_NTSC 1 #define TEMIC_PAL 2 #define TEMIC_SECAM 3 #define PHILIPS_NTSC 4 #define PHILIPS_PAL 5 #define PHILIPS_SECAM 6 #define TEMIC_PALI 7 #define PHILIPS_PALI 8 #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 If you're lucky, then just add to your kernel conf. E.g.: # #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 options OVERRIDE_TUNER=9 |Also, how are people hooking up the audio on their cards? On this |one, at least, the supplied cables are for Macintosh only and I'm |getting the sneaking suspicion that one uses the audio output jack to |loop the signal back into one's audio card line-in jack - is that what |fxtv expects to happen? That's basically it. There's an outstanding request from a few folks to make the input channel configurable (Line-In, CD-In) for those that choose to wire-up internally, and also to make the mixer configurable as well (for those that have multiple soundcards). These will probably be in Fxtv 0.47, but for now (0.46), the Line Input channel on /dev/mixer is what's tweaked. I guess just grab xmix or another mixer for now and tweak directly, ignoring the volume and mute controls in Fxtv. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 09:43:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20921 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20910 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:43:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03633 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803061743.JAA03633@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: native glide for freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:43:33 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hope to be able to gather material for a nice summary so I can send it back to the developer . Please don't bombard the developer for I am sure that some of you can guess who it is. Regards, Amancio > The rush support is a different matter due to the glide library being only a > linux library > and typically we run the X installation as native binaries . I expect I'll release source to the X server part. Since none of that is 3Dfx specific (it just allows me to lock down memory on the card) it shouldn't be a problem. > We really need the linux glide library compiled for FreeBSD if you are > interested > in doing it just drop me a note. As you noticed we have quite a few Voodoo > fans 8) I've heard a bunch of people ask, and I haven't decided what to do about it. I'm trying to avoid thinking about it until I get this current crop of drivers out (VG, Rush, V2). I could easily do it. I have plenty of disk space and the port shouldn't be hard. 3Dfx would have to OK it. They don't want to release ports that they feel like they don't have the resources to support properly. Another question is whether or not this is a good thing. It would let *BSD users program for Glide and Mesa which would be good. In an ideal world that would be all that was involved and we'd all be happy. But, I'm concerned about the limited resources of the comercial developers. I think it could be bad if it caused more pressure on developers like Id or Crack.Com to support *BSD versions of their programs. They may decide it isn't worth the hassle of supporting any free Unix, because of the grief they'll get from the others that aren't supported. Take Id for example. Zoid is releasing the Quake2 server for *BSD. You know he must be hearing from *BSD users that they want the client side as well. Quake2 isn't very playable on X only. So, gee if Glide is available people will want him to port that as well. Is the effort of the developer worth the market share for *BSD. Most of them don't think it is worth the market share for Linux or we'd have more choices there. I'm open to other opinions. This opinion is definetly one sided. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 10:55:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01527 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01515 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:55:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03729; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:55:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061855.NAA03729@rare.net> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mts@rare.net Subject: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- Reply-To: mts@rare.net Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:55:09 -0500 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've got a compaq 1550 dmt, and it seems to say that there's a soundBlaster pro inside. Playing cd's is fine, but when i pump amp into the dsp, all i get is static. Its very nice static, but static none the less. It will play all the amp data straight through, pacing it ... but not playing it. Its the same amp that runs on the *other* machine, tho i have no clue whether its really a soundblaster pro (cept for answering the init, and getting autoconf'd correctly). The fact that it generates static is a clue, what should i do next to debug the problem i'm having. mts. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 11:26:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06527 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from siberian.com (dnai-207-181-209-162.dialup.dnai.com [207.181.209.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06521 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edjames@siberian.com) Received: (from edjames@localhost) by siberian.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15136; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edjames) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:57:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ed James Message-Id: <199803061757.JAA15136@siberian.com> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: trouble with bt848 driver and/or fxtv Cc: edjames@cisco.com Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using fxtv as the client, I'm not having much luck getting my winTV from Hauppauge working. It works fine in win95, but when booted under freebsd, the tuner part fails to find stations where they should be. For instance, I found channel 4 on channel 25. In antenna mode, it *barely* picks up local uhf stations (14, 20, 44, 60). In cable mode, it picks up nothing in the 2-40 range (thought I did get a super saturated 77, which comes from my vcr via a super/hyperband modulator). Since I know the card works under win95, I am suspicious that the driver or client is misconfiguring the card. Does this sound familiar? Have you run into this? --ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 12:20:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19202 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19197 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04346; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803062020.MAA04346@rah.star-gate.com> To: Ed James cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, edjames@cisco.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: trouble with bt848 driver and/or fxtv In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:57:23 PST." <199803061757.JAA15136@siberian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4343.889215615.1@rah> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:20:15 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of the hackers on the list are working on the problem that you are experiencing. The "bug" is that the new crop of Bt848 cards from Hauppauge are using a new analog tuner which we have to sort out how to support. Typically, the bt848 cards consists of a bt848 chipset plus an analog tuner. Is the tuner component which is proving to be a little problematic to support for it is a target area which PC manufacturers are using to differentiate themselves. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 14:23:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02594 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sheltie.cisco.com (sheltie.cisco.com [171.69.219.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02588 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edjames@cisco.com) Received: (edjames@localhost) by sheltie.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id OAA11770; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:22:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:22:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ed James Message-Id: <199803062222.OAA11770@sheltie.cisco.com> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: trouble with bt848 driver and/or fxtv Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ah, thanks for the info. Yes, the video-in works fine, the tuner doesn't. If there's any pre-release stuff or docs you can point me to, I'd be much obliged. --ed > From hasty@rah.star-gate.com Fri Mar 6 12:20:30 1998 > To: Ed James > cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, edjames@cisco.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com > Subject: Re: trouble with bt848 driver and/or fxtv > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-ID: <4343.889215615.1@rah> > Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:20:15 -0800 > From: Amancio Hasty > > A couple of the hackers on the list are working on the problem > that you are experiencing. The "bug" is that the new crop of > Bt848 cards from Hauppauge are using a new analog tuner which > we have to sort out how to support. Typically, the bt848 cards > consists of a bt848 chipset plus an analog tuner. Is the tuner > component which is proving to be a little problematic to support > for it is a target area which PC manufacturers are using to > differentiate themselves. > > Amancio > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 14:33:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03766 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03732 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA02255; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:03:04 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803062103.WAA02255@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- To: mts@rare.net Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:03:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803061855.NAA03729@rare.net> from "Michael T. Stolarchuk" at Mar 6, 98 01:54:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > i've got a compaq 1550 dmt, and it seems to say > that there's a soundBlaster pro inside. Playing > cd's is fine, but when i pump amp into the dsp, > all i get is static. Its very nice static, probably you have some ESS, and my driver incorrectly claims support for 16bit confusing applications (the card can do 16 bit, but the driver does not -- yet...). cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 16:09:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16069 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16064 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 16:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09458; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:08:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803070008.TAA09458@rare.net> To: Luigi Rizzo cc: mts@rare.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, mts@rare.net Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Mar 1998 22:03:04 +0100." <199803062103.WAA02255@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:08:53 -0500 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199803062103.WAA02255@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo writes: >> i've got a compaq 1550 dmt, and it seems to say >> that there's a soundBlaster pro inside. Playing >> cd's is fine, but when i pump amp into the dsp, >> all i get is static. Its very nice static, > >probably you have some ESS, and my driver incorrectly claims support >for 16bit confusing applications (the card can do 16 bit, but the >driver does not -- yet...). Sorry, don't know what ESS is... if you can say a bit more, possibly point at some docs, then i'd be interested in playing with the driver to see if i can get it to speak. mts. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 22:23:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01232 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from subcellar.mwci.net (subcellar.mwci.net [205.254.160.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01214; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwalt@mwci.net) Received: from firewall.mwci.net (firewall.mwci.net [205.254.160.134]) by subcellar.mwci.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA11353; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:23:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:23:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jesse Walters To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mpeg Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know of any mpeg views for X. What about avi files? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 6 22:56:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03932 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:56:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from subcellar.mwci.net (subcellar.mwci.net [205.254.160.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03892 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwalt@mwci.net) Received: from firewall.mwci.net (firewall.mwci.net [205.254.160.134]) by subcellar.mwci.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14261 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:56:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:56:13 -0600 (CST) From: Jesse Walters To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mpeg (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, i didn't do my homework on this one. In the ports section, I am trying to get mpeg2play to install. It says Motif required. I have a basic idea on what motif is, assuming it is a agreed upon windows like interface. I am running x with the fvwm95 emu. What do I have to "install" etc so it takes care of the Motif error. Again, sorry for my ignorance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 03:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25042 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA25037 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA03113; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:04:59 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803070904.KAA03113@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- To: mts@rare.net (Michael T. Stolarchuk) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:04:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: mts@rare.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803070008.TAA09458@rare.net> from "Michael T. Stolarchuk" at Mar 6, 98 07:08:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> i've got a compaq 1550 dmt, and it seems to say > >> that there's a soundBlaster pro inside. Playing > >> cd's is fine, but when i pump amp into the dsp, > >> all i get is static. Its very nice static, > > > >probably you have some ESS, and my driver incorrectly claims support > >for 16bit confusing applications (the card can do 16 bit, but the > >driver does not -- yet...). > > Sorry, don't know what ESS is... if you can say a bit more, > possibly point at some docs, then i'd be interested in playing with > the driver to see if i can get it to speak. ESS is a soundcard manufacturer and their card emulate sbpro but have better features which the driver does not support yet. look for info at www.esstech.com -- not much documentation is available, though, you'd be better off looking at the oss sources. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 06:49:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13773 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kundenserver.de (exim@mail.kundenserver.de [195.4.183.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13768 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 06:49:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tm@isnet.de) Received: from ntsrv [149.221.237.33] by mail.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yBKuc-0003fN-00; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:49:18 +0100 Message-ID: <35015E71.69D3@isnet.de> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:49:21 +0100 From: tim mehrvarz Organization: info sys gmbh X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: multi-channel video-capture-cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sirs Are you aware of a company or someone who is devoloping or producing multi-channel video-capture-cards (with drivers) for windows? Tim Mehrvarz, INFO SYS GmbH tm@isnet.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 07:01:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15388 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mganzer.dyn.ml.org (root@dt052n33.san.rr.com [204.210.33.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15357 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ganzer@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (ganzer@dt052n33.san.rr.com [204.210.33.51]) by mganzer.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11302 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:02:05 GMT Message-ID: <3501616C.201FE1B4@san.rr.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:02:04 +0000 From: "Mark T. Ganzer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just purchased a bt848 based "Turbo TV" card. References: <19980305204448.63486@ct.picker.com> <317.889189128@time.cdrom.com> <19980306080434.47112@ct.picker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > Hmm. Interesting. Guess Hauppauge is just a more competent manufacturer. > Their base Wincast/TV cards (no stereo/dbx) cost under $99 (seems > like I heard $79 months ago for folks out in CA). This past week, we bought several of the basic Wincast/TV cards at Fry's in San Diego for $99. When we bought a couple a month ago at the same location, they were $109. -- - Mark T Ganzer Home: ganzer@san.rr.com Work: ganzer@spawar.navy.mil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 07:13:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16337 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.itribe.net (gatekeeper.itribe.net [209.49.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA16332 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 07:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@itribe.net) Message-Id: <199803071507.KAA18063@gatekeeper.itribe.net> Received: forwarded by SMTP 1.5.2. Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:13:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jamie Bowden To: Jesse Walters cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mpeg In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Jesse Walters wrote: > Anyone know of any mpeg views for X. What about avi files? > Thanks > xanim http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/ -- Jamie Bowden Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 09:54:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29218 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:54:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29194 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13515; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:54:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803071754.MAA13515@rare.net> To: Luigi Rizzo cc: mts@rare.net (Michael T. Stolarchuk), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, mts@rare.net Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 10:04:59 +0100." <199803070904.KAA03113@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:54:14 -0500 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199803070904.KAA03113@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo writes: > >look for info at www.esstech.com -- not much documentation is >available, though, you'd be better off looking at the oss sources. > Thanks. do you mean oss sources or ess sources? Again, looks like i'm cluless, where would i find sources which would help? mts. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 11:07:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05945 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:07:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rare.net (rare.net [206.252.6.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05931 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mts@rare.net) Received: from rare.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13599; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:06:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803071906.OAA13599@rare.net> To: Luigi Rizzo cc: mts@rare.net (Michael T. Stolarchuk), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, mts@rare.net Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:15:32 +0100." <199803071715.SAA03587@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:06:59 -0500 From: "Michael T. Stolarchuk" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199803071715.SAA03587@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo writes: >> In message <199803070904.KAA03113@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo writes: >> > >> >look for info at www.esstech.com -- not much documentation is >> >available, though, you'd be better off looking at the oss sources. >> > >> >> Thanks. do you mean oss sources or ess sources? > >OSS. there are no sources that i know of on the ESS site > >> Again, looks like i'm cluless, where would i find >> sources which would help? > >browse the net. sorry but there is no single URL or document containing >all the info you seem to need, and if i had the time to write such a >document i'd rather fix the driver myself :) Will do. thanks for your help :) mts. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 11:31:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07224 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07218 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:31:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA03587; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:15:32 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803071715.SAA03587@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: soundblaster pro on compaq 1550- To: mts@rare.net (Michael T. Stolarchuk) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:15:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: mts@rare.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803071754.MAA13515@rare.net> from "Michael T. Stolarchuk" at Mar 7, 98 12:53:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <199803070904.KAA03113@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo writes: > > > >look for info at www.esstech.com -- not much documentation is > >available, though, you'd be better off looking at the oss sources. > > > > Thanks. do you mean oss sources or ess sources? OSS. there are no sources that i know of on the ESS site > Again, looks like i'm cluless, where would i find > sources which would help? browse the net. sorry but there is no single URL or document containing all the info you seem to need, and if i had the time to write such a document i'd rather fix the driver myself :) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 13:28:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17866 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:28:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com (root@gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17860 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:28:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@demon.net) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3] (ade) by gorgon.lovett.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yBR9N-0000D9-00; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:28:57 -0600 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Lack of sound with fxtv Organization: Demon Internet Reply-To: ade@demon.net Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:28:56 -0600 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a bit of a problem with fxtv not sending out any kind of audio.. the sound card works quite happily for other things (realaudio, recording from a mic etc..) so I'm pretty certain that's not the problem. The same hardware combination works fine under Win95 too, so I'm pretty stumped as to what's going on. The Brooktree 848 card came as part of a Zoltrix TV package, the sound card is a no-name Yamaha OPL3 "thing", and the cabling runs from audio-out on the capture card, to line-in on the sound card, and then on to the speakers. FreeBSD is -current as of yesterday, relevant details from dmesg output are included below. Any suggestions gratefully accepted :) I also notice that the performance of fxtv is an order of magnitude better (much smoother all around) with a Matrox Millenium running with the SVGA X-server as opposed to an S3 ViRGE DX/GX card under the S3V server (otherwise, both cards perform equally as well under X). -aDe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ... FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Mar 6 21:24:54 CST 1998 ... bktr0: rev 0x12 int a irq 10 on pci0.10.0 Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. ... Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: YMH0020 [0x2000a865] Serial 0xffffffff mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 0:1 flags 0x11 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 0 flags 0x11 on isa ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet, Austin, Texas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 14:10:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20854 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20798 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA03854; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:39:48 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803072039.VAA03854@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv To: ade@demon.net Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:39:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Ade Lovett" at Mar 7, 98 03:28:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've got a bit of a problem with fxtv not sending out any kind of > audio.. the sound card works quite happily for other things (realaudio, > recording from a mic etc..) so I'm pretty certain that's not the problem. it is more likely that the problem is in the bt848 tuner detection. In any case you can try to play with "mixer" and see if changing the volume on the various sources makes a difference. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 14:16:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21083 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:16:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21078 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14348; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803072216.OAA14348@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ade@demon.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:28:56 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:16:28 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently there is a new crop of Bt848 cards giving us hazzles due to the tuner component --- The tuner component is apparently a great target for PC manufacturers to "enhance" the bt848 cards and it appears the PC tuner components are proliferating like jack rabbits :( Cheers, Amancio rhh@ct.picker.com said: > Sorry I'm a few days late chiming in on this thread -- been on > vacation down South. > I had similar trouble getting one of the newer Hauppauge NTSC Win/TV > cards working on my brother's box over the weekend. Turns out that > its tuner (Philips FI1236 MK2) actually was supported by the bt848 > driver, but not auto-detected correctly (the driver thought it was a > Temic PAL). The misconfigured tuner of course resulted in a buzzing > static mess. > Anyway, to find out the tuner type, this worked for me. Look up the > property details on the card in MSW95 (something like > Start..Settings..Control Panel..System..Device Manager..Multimedia > Devices....Properties.. Details....). For the > Hauppauge cards at least, the exact tuner name is listed on the tabs > along with H/W version, supported signal formats, etc. etc. > Then see if the tuner is one of those in the driver list (in > brooktree848.c): > /* indexes into tuners[] */ > #define NO_TUNER 0 > #define TEMIC_NTSC 1 > #define TEMIC_PAL 2 > #define TEMIC_SECAM 3 > #define PHILIPS_NTSC 4 > #define PHILIPS_PAL 5 > #define PHILIPS_SECAM 6 > #define TEMIC_PALI 7 > #define PHILIPS_PALI 8 > #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 > If you're lucky, then just add to your kernel conf. E.g.: > # #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 > options OVERRIDE_TUNER=9 > |Also, how are people hooking up the audio on their cards? On this > |one, at least, the supplied cables are for Macintosh only and I'm > |getting the sneaking suspicion that one uses the audio output jack > to > |loop the signal back into one's audio card line-in jack - is that > what > |fxtv expects to happen? > That's basically it. There's an outstanding request from a few folks > to make the input channel configurable (Line-In, CD-In) for those that > choose to wire-up internally, and also to make the mixer configurable > as well (for those that have multiple soundcards). > These will probably be in Fxtv 0.47, but for now (0.46), the Line > Input channel on /dev/mixer is what's tweaked. I guess just grab xmix > or another mixer for now and tweak directly, ignoring the volume and > mute controls in Fxtv. > Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 14:56:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23815 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:56:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com (root@gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23795 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:55:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@demon.net) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3] (ade) by gorgon.lovett.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yBSVQ-00003o-00; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 16:55:48 -0600 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv Organization: Demon Internet Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 21:39:48 +0100." <199803072039.VAA03854@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 16:55:47 -0600 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: > >it is more likely that the problem is in the bt848 tuner detection. In >any case you can try to play with "mixer" and see if changing the >volume on the various sources makes a difference. Having taken the card out and peeled back various labels (who needs a warranty anyway? :) the markings on the tuner say that it's a Temic 3X7 004 (NTSC), Frontend 4032 FY5. This would seem to match up with the tuner that FreeBSD reports on bootup. Plugging the audio-out directly into the speakers, or to a hi-fi amplifier (and then to speakers) makes no difference either, thus definitely ruling out any kind of problem between the capture card and sound card. Is there any other information I can produce to help track down this problem? -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet, Austin, Texas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 15:10:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26082 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26076 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14720; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:10:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803072310.PAA14720@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ade@demon.net cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 16:55:47 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:10:05 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Go to : http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html and download sign.c is in the Hacker's tool chest cc -o sign sign.c ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 0a 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xb6 0xc2 0xc6 Also download eeprom.c from the same section: cc -o eeprom eeprom.c {root} ./eeprom 0 256 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e1 18 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 15 14 79 a5 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff Tnks, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 15:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28614 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com (root@gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28609 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@demon.net) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3] (ade) by gorgon.lovett.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yBTCG-00004U-00; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:40:04 -0600 To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv Organization: Demon Internet Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:10:05 PST." <199803072310.PAA14720@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:40:00 -0600 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty writes: > >Hi, > >Go to : >http://www.freebsd.org/~ahasty/Bt848.html >and download sign.c is in the Hacker's tool chest Right.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gorgon 45# ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xc0 0xc2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gorgon 46# ./eeprom No output.. truss on ./eeprom shows: syscall open("/dev/tuner0",0,0400) returns 3 (0x3) syscall ioctl(3,0xc1047833,0xefbfd604) errno 5 'Input/output error' syscall exit(0x1) process exit, rval = 256 gorgon 47# ls -l /dev/tuner0 cr--r--r-- 1 root wheel 92, 16 Mar 7 14:16 /dev/tuner0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks like this could be (part of) the problem then, even though the video part of fxtv is working fine, with both camera and cable-TV input. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet, Austin, Texas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 15:45:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28837 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28832 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:45:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15062; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803072345.PAA15062@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ade@demon.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:40:00 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:45:28 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try : ./eeprom 0 256 tnks, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 15:47:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28929 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:47:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com (root@gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28918 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@demon.net) Received: from gorgon.lovett.com [38.155.241.3] (ade) by gorgon.lovett.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yBTJL-00005H-00; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:47:23 -0600 To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv Organization: Demon Internet Reply-To: ade@demon.net In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:45:28 PST." <199803072345.PAA15062@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:47:23 -0600 From: Ade Lovett Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty writes: > >Try : >./eeprom 0 256 Sorry.. finger-trouble on the cut-n-paste .. I did actually type "./eeprom 0 256", where it fell over on the ioctl() call after opening /dev/tuner0. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Demon Internet, Austin, Texas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 15:55:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00274 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00267 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15146; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803072355.PAA15146@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ade@demon.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of sound with fxtv In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:47:23 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:55:11 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tnks for all the info . Later on I will try to dig around for info on your Tuner and try to sort out how can we get you sound. If any one can beat me to to it thats fine cause I playing with other stuff over here. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 17:10:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09566 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09505 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11458; Sat, 7 Mar 98 20:09:23 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA26335; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:08:58 -0500 Message-Id: <19980307200857.11085@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:08:57 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jesse Walters , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mpeg Mail-Followup-To: Jesse Walters , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesse Walters on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:23:37AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesse Walters: | Anyone know of any mpeg views for X. What about avi files? mtv (www.mpegtv.com) for video/system stream mpegs. mpeg_play works too, but isn't as fast and doesn't support sound). xanim for avis. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 17:11:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09607 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca (pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca [24.113.51.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09600 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:11:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jh@pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca) Received: (from jh@localhost) by pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA00523 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:10:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:10:47 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna Organization: Pangolin Systems From: Jonathan Hanna To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sign, eeprom for Haupauge with FR1236 MKII (FM) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just a datapoint for the autodetection effort: bash-2.01$ ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 02 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xb6 0xc2 bash-2.01$ ./eeprom 0 256 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 09 08 12 01 43 db 00 00 94 0a 00 00 00 01 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 29 12 08 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 17 13 79 2b 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff Jonathan Hanna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 17:18:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09972 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09966 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15566; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:18:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199803080118.RAA15566@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jonathan Hanna cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sign, eeprom for Haupauge with FR1236 MKII (FM) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:10:47 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:18:02 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, Please also include your brand/model for the card if you post your sign and eeprom output. It makes it easier for us to write code to detect your favorite tv card 8) Cheers, Amancio > Just a datapoint for the autodetection effort: > > bash-2.01$ ./sign > > signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: > > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 02 00 00 00 > > > i2c device found @ > 0xa0 > 0xb6 > 0xc2 > > bash-2.01$ ./eeprom 0 256 > > EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: > > 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 09 08 12 01 43 db 00 00 94 > 0a 00 00 00 01 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 29 12 > 08 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 17 13 79 2b 00 00 00 00 > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff > > > Jonathan Hanna > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 17:34:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11055 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11050 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11767; Sat, 7 Mar 98 20:33:47 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA26669; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:33:25 -0500 Message-Id: <19980307203324.61497@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:33:24 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jesse Walters , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mpeg (fwd) Mail-Followup-To: Jesse Walters , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesse Walters on Sat, Mar 07, 1998 at 12:56:13AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesse Walters: |Ok, i didn't do my homework on this one. In the ports section, I am |trying to get mpeg2play to install. It says Motif required. I have a |basic idea on what motif is, assuming it is a agreed upon windows like |interface. I am running x with the fvwm95 emu. What do I have to |"install" etc so it takes care of the Motif error. Again, sorry for my |ignorance. I wouldn't sweat trying to get mpeg2play to run. It only supports 8bpp PseudoColor visuals, and playing MPEGs in that mode really dogs performance doing color conversion (even on my P233MMX). It doesn't support sound in system streams either. mpeg_play and mtv (the latter supporting sound) both support TrueColor visuals, so I'd go with them. But just in case you're still curious about Motif, it's both the name given to a commercial X/Windows widget (GUI) toolkit (the meaning that's relevent in this case) and also the name given to the commercial X/Windows window manager (executable = "mwm") that is build on that widget toolkit. You can identify apps that are dynamically linked with the Motif toolkit by doing an ldd on them and seeing a "libXm.so...." library dependency. You'll see this if you do a "ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/mpeg2play". To run these apps, you can buy the Motif runtime from somewhere (Xi, SWIM, etc.), install a Motif toolkit clone (e.g. see "lesstif" in the ports collection), or get the person that build the executable to link the Motif library statically into the executable (Netscape is one example of this). Randall P.S. See http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/bitstreams.html for some MPEG goodies. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 21:05:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28526 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:05:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28521 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:05:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06236 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:05:17 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803080505.CAA06236@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: More info to the bt848 probe effort To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:05:17 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's my contribution on the bt848 probe effort. Two Hauppauge Cards, Model 400, bought at the same day, with different tuners: ================= Philips FI1236MK2 ================= dogbert::jonny [509] ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xc2 dogbert::jonny [511] ./eeprom 0 256 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 09 08 0a 01 25 db 52 0b 94 00 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 cc d2 06 00 74 02 01 00 03 79 11 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ============== Philips FI1236 ============== gaia::jonny [502] ./sign signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0xa0 0xc2 0xc6 gaia::jonny [507] eeprom 0 256 EEProm contents, 0x00 thru 0xff: 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 09 08 05 01 25 db 00 00 94 05 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 07 76 06 00 74 02 01 00 03 79 8f 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff Hope this helps ! Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 22:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13455 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13450 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28488 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 03:35:23 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199803080635.DAA28488@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: mixer(8) device selection To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 03:35:23 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The interesting thing on having multiple devices on your computer is that you find all programs that can't deal with multiple devices. Now I found that mixer(8) cannot deal with multiple sound cards. I've just sent a PR with proposed patches. If somebody with commit privs could test and commit, I would be very happy. Oh, I suppose I had to test a little more before posting the PR. "mixer -rec source" is conflicting with getopt. One should do "mixer -- -rec source" to work, or maybe the sources need another change to accept "rec-" and "rec+" syntax. Anyway, the man pages need an explanation. Thanks in advance. Jonny PS: Why do I needed to use mixer(8) and not xmmix or the like ? Because I have one soundcard outputing to other soundcard line input, and I want to set the default gain at boot, so the same sound file sounds the same on both cards. Also useful with my Fxtv setup. -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 7 23:11:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16841 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA16836 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 23:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA04577; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:40:47 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199803080540.GAA04577@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: mixer(8) device selection To: jonny@coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 06:40:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803080635.DAA28488@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Mar 8, 98 03:35:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > The interesting thing on having multiple devices on your computer is > that you find all programs that can't deal with multiple devices. this is because you have updated to a driver that accepts multiple devices of the same kind :) > Now I found that mixer(8) cannot deal with multiple sound cards. approx. in august i patched "mixer" to accept a -f argument to select a specific soundcard, and added the "=rec" command to set a specific source (the default behaviour is/was to add/remove a source, but since some cards only accept exactly one source at a time and in case of error the mixer defaulted to 'mic' the other commands were useless.. > PS: Why do I needed to use mixer(8) and not xmmix or the like ? so, we are at this point... people feel compelled to apologize for using a command line interface instead of a GUI ... cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message