From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 4:51:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst313.netaddress.usa.net (unknown [204.68.23.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A19E14CA4 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 04:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.monroy@usa.net) Received: (qmail 25043 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 1999 11:51:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990606115124.25042.qmail@nwcst313.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.58 by nwcst313 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Sun Jun 6 11:51:24 GMT 1999 Date: 6 Jun 99 04:51:24 PDT From: Jesus Monroy To: ingrid@cityscope.net, Bill Swingle Subject: Re: [Re: FreeBSDCon '99] Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree. I think the FreeBSDCon would be a good place that I could take other developers and convince them to move to FreeBSD. But it's a bit hard since there seems to = be no incentive for them to go. = Mind you I'm not complaining that this is not a good idea, but perhaps a "free" section should have been made available. Sure, perhaps people, like myself, with FreeBSD-wares might need to pay more to = help cover the show, but other "bigger" show tend to do something similar to this. Then again, perhaps I missed an earlier discussion on this point and someone can bring me (us) up to speed, :-) Ingrid Kast Fuller wrote: > Bill, > Only thing I see right now is that the price of a convention for pe= ople > used to getting their software FREE, is a bit high. The hotel is high,= the > booths are high, the tables are high, . My personal opinion is make it= > reasonable for ANYONE to attend with an interest in FreeBSD. You'll get= more > people and exposure. Isn't that what we want guys? > = > If I was an employee of a firm who was sending me to the conference and= the > firm was paying for it.....hey no problem. But, most of us are self-emp= loyed > and trying to make a profit. I would love to go with my tech who I'm > training, but for just one of us to go is out of our reach. > = > This conference doesn't have a track record yet, on how many people wil= l be > there, etc.. right? > This would help me figure out if it would be worth my effort to have a = booth > or table there. > = > = > Bill Swingle wrote: > = > > Hello all, > > > > I just put the finishing touches on the FreeBSDCon '99 website and ha= ve > > made it public. I wanted the lot of you to take a look at the site an= d > > see if you can find any gross errors or things that otherwise make us= > > look silly. > = > *************************************************************** > Ingrid Kast Fuller Email: ingrid@cityscope.net > CityScope Computer Services Since 1984 > CityScope Net Web: http://www.cityscope.net > 109 West Southmore > Pasadena, TX 77502-1001 1 (713)477-6161 > *************************************************************** > = > = > = > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message --- IN that context, it is the BSD that should be considered, not the prefix. http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/cgi-bin/newsread?34858 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 6:15:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F2815252 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 06:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.55.43]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1D29; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:15:13 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA60518; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:15:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:15:14 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Michael Doyle Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interview mentioning FreeBSD Message-ID: <19990606151514.A60395@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <3.0.5.32.19990603141646.007b9340@199.107.2.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990603141646.007b9340@199.107.2.1>; from Michael Doyle on Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 02:16:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 02:16:46PM +0100, Michael Doyle wrote: > > The interview is on the PCC website > > http://www.pcc.ie/net/ci.html > > During the interview I gave a fairly strong plug for FreeBSD. It didn't > come out quite as stongly in what was finaly put on the website, but you > might be interested in reading the artivcle anyway. Just read it... Nice article, reminded me somewhat of my old job... Wrt FreeBSD ye didn't bash Linux and just carried on mentioning how reliable FreeBSD is... Excellent =)) Keep it up =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 12:30:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C0155ED for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10853; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: ingrid@cityscope.net Cc: Bill Swingle , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSDCon '99 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 04:48:55 CDT." <375A4407.75F320D5@cityscope.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: <10849.928697484@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Only thing I see right now is that the price of a convention for people > used to getting their software FREE, is a bit high. The hotel is high, the > booths are high, the tables are high, . My personal opinion is make it > reasonable for ANYONE to attend with an interest in FreeBSD. You'll get more > people and exposure. Isn't that what we want guys? Welcome to the real world. :( Hotels are expensive, convention space is expensive, it's all expensive. Believe me, we worked like crazy to get the room and registration fees as low as possible but unless you want us all to go way into the red just putting this event together (thus assuring that we're never able to hold another such event again), it's just going to cost what it costs. Speakers need to be flown out the core team needs to have their costs subsidized so that they can all show up at all, none of this is free - in fact, it's extremely expensive. The hotel also extracts its own pound of flesh since they're in this game to make money, not to help us promote our operating system. :-( We're also actively seeking sponsors in an attempt to defray costs, but that's only going to go so far since people handing you free money in a sack are far and few between, and even with their help the costs are still very high and won't be reduced all that much. Like I said, welcome to the real world. :( > This conference doesn't have a track record yet, on how many people will be > there, etc.. right? Correct, so we have to assume the worst in terms of how much the registration fees will help us. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 14:54:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71E614CB8 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-147.thuntek.net [207.66.52.147]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id PAA28644 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:54:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <375AED48.17D33332@thuntek.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:51:04 -0600 From: Donald Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@thuntek.net Organization: Wilde Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: please watch for PR effects Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just posted a new press release WRT Apple's Darwin and BSD. It'll hit the wires at 8AM Monday, PST. Please watch for ink splatters related to it and let me know where you see them, thanks! This was a joint effort by myself and Herb Peyerl of NetBSD, along with Apple. Thanks to Fred Sanchez and his boss Ernie Prabhakar, we have a quote from Apple's Sr. VP of S/W D. Please tell Fred "thanks" for me if you meet him at FreeNIX. I am no longer being paid as a consultant by Walnut Creek, this was a freebie for FreeBSD. I didn't want the opportunity to be missed. :-) -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 18:55:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.alcnet.com (kronos.alcnet.com [63.69.28.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4140D151EC for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@alcnet.com) X-Provider: ALC Communications, Inc. http://www.alcnet.com/ Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by kronos.alcnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with ESMTP id WAA10724 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly Yancey To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Announcing new distributed.net Team FreeBSD site Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ I am pleased to announce that Team FreeBSD on distributed.net has a new look! Distributed.net (http://www.distributed.net) is currently running a distributed effort to crack the rc5-64 cryptographic code per an RSA challenge. Past distributed.net efforts have included cracking DES encryption and rc5-56 encryption. The project works by utilizing your machine's idle time to perform a brute-force check of all possibly cryptographic keys. Future projects will include the search for optimal golumb rulers. Team FreeBSD is organized to show the world that not only does FreeBSD have the power to serve, but enough power left over to do some serious key-cracking :) Currently, Team FreeBSD is ranked 23rd on distributed.net's team rankings (http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/tlist.php3?low=1&limit=100) with a meager 265 members. Let's get those numbers up! In hopes that by increasing our ranking and thus drawing increased attention to FreeBSD from other distributed.net participants, the Team FreeBSD site has been overhauled. We encourage you to check it out at http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ and participate. Let's bring FreeBSD to it's rightful seat as #1! ~kbyanc@alcnet.com~ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve - http://www.freebsd.org/ Join Team FreeBSD - http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 19: 0:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.alcnet.com (kronos.alcnet.com [63.69.28.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2F614D87 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@alcnet.com) X-Provider: ALC Communications, Inc. http://www.alcnet.com/ Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by kronos.alcnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with ESMTP id WAA10844 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly Yancey To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Announcing new distributed.net Team FreeBSD site Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ I am pleased to announce that Team FreeBSD on distributed.net has a new look! Distributed.net (http://www.distributed.net) is currently running a distributed effort to crack the rc5-64 cryptographic code per an RSA challenge. Past distributed.net efforts have included cracking DES encryption and rc5-56 encryption. The project works by utilizing your machine's idle time to perform a brute-force check of all possibly cryptographic keys. Future projects will include the search for optimal golumb rulers. Team FreeBSD is organized to show the world that not only does FreeBSD have the power to serve, but enough power left over to do some serious key-cracking :) Currently, Team FreeBSD is ranked 23rd on distributed.net's team rankings (http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/tlist.php3?low=1&limit=100) with a meager 265 members. Let's get those numbers up! In hopes that by increasing our ranking and thus drawing increased attention to FreeBSD from other distributed.net participants, the Team FreeBSD site has been overhauled. We encourage you to check it out at http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ and participate. Let's bring FreeBSD to it's rightful seat as #1! ~kbyanc@alcnet.com~ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve - http://www.freebsd.org/ Join Team FreeBSD - http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 21:36:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pokey.local.net (arc9-38.arl.netwalk.net [216.69.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D115706 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmutter@netwalk.com) Received: from insomnia.local.net (insomnia.local.net [192.168.2.3]) by pokey.local.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA07446; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:36:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jmutter@insomnia.local.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "James A. Mutter" Reply-To: jmutter@netwalk.com To: Kelly Yancey Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Announcing new distributed.net Team FreeBSD site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just finished checking out the new page, it looks good. I didn't see however, any mention of the fact that the owner of the machine that finds the key gets $1000.00 as well. It might be helpful for snagging new participants. On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Kelly Yancey wrote: : : http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ : : I am pleased to announce that Team FreeBSD on distributed.net has a new :look! Distributed.net (http://www.distributed.net) is currently running a :distributed effort to crack the rc5-64 cryptographic code per an RSA :challenge. Past distributed.net efforts have included cracking DES :encryption and rc5-56 encryption. The project works by utilizing your :machine's idle time to perform a brute-force check of all possibly :cryptographic keys. Future projects will include the search for optimal :golumb rulers. : Team FreeBSD is organized to show the world that not only does FreeBSD :have the power to serve, but enough power left over to do some serious :key-cracking :) Currently, Team FreeBSD is ranked 23rd on :distributed.net's team rankings :(http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/tlist.php3?low=1&limit=100) with a :meager 265 members. Let's get those numbers up! : : In hopes that by increasing our ranking and thus drawing increased :attention to FreeBSD from other distributed.net participants, the Team :FreeBSD site has been overhauled. We encourage you to check it out at :http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ and participate. : : Let's bring FreeBSD to it's rightful seat as #1! : : ~kbyanc@alcnet.com~ : FreeBSD - The Power To Serve - http://www.freebsd.org/ : Join Team FreeBSD - http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ : : : : : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 23: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from gate2.consol.de (gate2.consol.de [194.221.87.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF721512A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Michael.Elbel@consol.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: Michael.Elbel@consol.de (at relayer gate2.consol.de) Received: from msgsrv.bb.consol.de (root@msgsrv.bb.consol.de [10.250.0.100]) by gate2.consol.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17913; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.int.consol.de (fourier.int.consol.de [10.0.1.17]) by msgsrv.bb.consol.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29136; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 Received: (from me@localhost) by fourier.int.consol.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) id IAA43216; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from me) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 From: Michael Elbel To: Wes Peters Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals Message-ID: <19990607080257.B42584@consol.de> References: <19990605224422.A70789@consol.de> <3759FCC2.D2666FFE@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3759FCC2.D2666FFE@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:44:50PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:44:50PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Michael Elbel wrote: > > > > In lists.freebsd.advocacy you write: > > > > >Wes Peters wrote: > > [...] > > >> http://www.tekmetrics.com/ (duh!) > > [...] [...] > > I'd be astonished if You'd not. I managed to get a Master UNIX admin - > > score 4.55 at half past eleven in the evening after 3 beers (german ones, > > mind you :) > > My partner Jody took it this afternoon and scored 4.60 with his 3-year > old twins running around his office. See :-) > I hate those "pick the best answer" questions, the scoring is so > arbitrary. The test struck me as being quite good for a 40-question > test, but I'd rather see more coverage of network I/O and less on > terminal-related topics. Same here for the -admin test. The security and network related questions came too short for my taste and were of less quality than the rest IMO. In this day's world you simply don't administer standalone Unix boxes without network any more. > I'm going to take a few more, including UNIX sysadmin, while they're > still free. I would like to encourage a few more of the advocates to do > so also, so we can get an idea of whether we want to pursue this as an > avenue for advocacy or not. I'm certain they would be open to creating > FreeBSD-specific versions of several of their exams, if we think it is > worth putting our name on. I think it would not be too much work replacing the low number of questions that are more Solaris/SYSV than BSD. One thing that struck me as somewhat bothersome is that everything going on is unencrypted. They should at least consider transmitting personal data via https if they want to build a reputation of a respectable certification house. Michael -- \|/ -O- Michael Elbel, ConSol* GmbH, - me@consol.de - 089 / 45841-256 /|\ Fermentation fault (coors dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 7 6:54:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC923152E3 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id TAA17054 for advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:54:19 +0600 (UDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id TAA00689 for advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:30:00 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by jane.cgu.chel.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00325 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:25:01 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:25:00 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.cgu.chel.su To: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gateway & FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (please CC to me since i'm not in the list) Hi, I heard (from here) that Gateway offers servers with FreeBSD 3.X preinstalled. I searched at www.gateway.com and ... Search: search results No documents matched the query "FreeBSD" is it wrong "Gateway" ? or what ? Regards, (Наилучшие пожелания) Ilia Chipitsine (Илья Шипицин) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 7 9:23:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718E614A2D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19378; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gateway & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have to contact Fritz Fitzgibbins. fritzfri@gateway.com =09-Chris On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > (please CC to me since i'm not in the list) >=20 > Hi, > I heard (from here) that Gateway offers servers with FreeBSD > 3.X preinstalled. I searched at www.gateway.com and ... >=20 > Search: search results > No documents matched the query "FreeBSD" >=20 > is it wrong "Gateway" ? or what ? >=20 > Regards, (=EE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=C5 =D0=CF=D6=C5=CC=C1=CE=C9=D1) >=20 > Ilia Chipitsine (=E9=CC=D8=D1 =FB=C9=D0=C9=C3=C9=CE) >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 7 9:32: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 974B814F8E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 73705 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jun 1999 16:31:52 -0000 Date: 7 Jun 1999 09:31:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:31:52 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: Ilia Chipitsine Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gateway & FreeBSD Message-ID: <19990607093152.A73449@dub.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ilia Chipitsine on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 07:25:00PM +0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 07:25:00PM +0600, Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > (please CC to me since i'm not in the list) > > Hi, > I heard (from here) that Gateway offers servers with FreeBSD > 3.X preinstalled. I searched at www.gateway.com and ... > > Search: search results > No documents matched the query "FreeBSD" > > is it wrong "Gateway" ? or what ? We are currently in the process of certification of a machine that Gateway sent us. We are also rolling a custom distrobution for them. I hope to have the whole process finished by the end of next week. It's a top priority after I get back from USENIX. -Bill -- -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 7 13:58:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mother.vastrightwingconspiracy.gov (ppp19.internexus.net [206.152.14.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C414E1E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@cliffsworld.com) Received: from cliffsworld.com (localhost.vastrightwingconspiracy.gov [127.0.0.1]) by mother.vastrightwingconspiracy.gov (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA72645 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:02:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cliff@cliffsworld.com) Message-ID: <375C335A.2D0AA07B@cliffsworld.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:02:18 -0400 From: cliff ainsworth III Reply-To: freebsd@cliffsworld.com Organization: cliffsworld media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Fwd: BSD Community Welcomes Apple's New Open Source Operating System] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A881793F0B9E9DED3FB55E38" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A881793F0B9E9DED3FB55E38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A881793F0B9E9DED3FB55E38 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: compat@internexus.net Received: (qmail 13955 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:53:27 -0000 Received: from redmail.netbsd.org (HELO mail.netbsd.org) (155.53.200.193) by internexus.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:53:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 3226 invoked by uid 605); 7 Jun 1999 19:49:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3220 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:49:39 -0000 Received: from lager.beer.org (HELO beer.org) (199.166.37.16) by redmail.netbsd.org with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:49:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by beer.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21983 for netbsd-announce@netbsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3144 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 19:47:57 -0000 Received: from lager.beer.org (HELO beer.org) (199.166.37.16) by redmail.netbsd.org with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 19:47:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beer.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21941 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199906071947.NAA21941@beer.org> X-Authentication-Warning: lager.beer.org: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: netbsd-announce@netbsd.org Subject: BSD Community Welcomes Apple's New Open Source Operating System From: Herb Peyerl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21937.928784872.1@lager> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:47:52 -0600 Sender: netbsd-announce-owner@netbsd.org Precedence: list Delivered-To: netbsd-announce@netbsd.org X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 NEWS RELEASE BSD Community Welcomes Apple's New Open Source Operating System Concord, CA, June 7, 1999: Today, at the start of the UNIX development community's annual Usenix convention, operating system influentials embraced Apple Computer's Darwin (www.apple.com/darwin) as a new member of the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) operating system family. "We're very pleased to have Apple's participation in the BSD community," said Jordan Hubbard, chairman of the USENIX convention's Freenix track and co-founder of the FreeBSD Project. "As more smart businesses discover the incredible free resource that is BSD software, they'll realize that contributing to open source development is in their best interest." According to Herb Peyerl of the NetBSD Project, "Our interaction with Apple on the Darwin project has been extremely rewarding for NetBSD and is the kind of open cooperation of which we would like to see more." "Leveraging the twenty-year BSD heritage allows Apple developers to concentrate on adding a unique user experience to the solid, robust foundation of the BSD code," according to Avie Tevanian, Apple Computer's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "We believe that by embracing the open source movement with our Darwin software, the result will be better products for millions of Mac customers worldwide. The BSD code in Darwin is an essential part of our operating system strategy." This type of reciprocation is a return to the original software development model that was universal in the early days of computing, before PCs. Wilfredo Sanchez, technical lead for the Darwin Project, will speak on Darwin at this week's Freenix track, a series of programs at Usenix devoted exclusively to this sort of open source software development. About NetBSD and FreeBSD NetBSD and FreeBSD are open source operating systems based on the last public release of BSD UNIX, 4.4BSDLite2. Each effort has kept up with the latest technologies in processors and software architectures. While having different priorities, the BSD development teams share a friendly competitive rivalry, spurring each other on to produce better product for their worldwide users. Over the twenty years of development, a huge base of software has been developed around BSD -- including much of the Internet infrastructure -- enabling the OS to be used effectively in almost any computing application. The open development model means there are no secrets, creating a worldwide understanding of the code which enables BSD developers to build on the efforts of prior developers without the hassles endemic to proprietary operating systems and applications. For More Information, Contact: The FreeBSD Project Concord, California 925-682-7859 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org The NetBSD Project C/O Charles M. Hannum 81 Bromfield Rd, #2 Somerville, MA 02144 mindshare@netbsd.org http://www.netbsd.org --------------A881793F0B9E9DED3FB55E38-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 7 17:51:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F143150D5 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id KAA09942 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:20:58 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA06156; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:22:07 +0930 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:22:07 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: "How big does your Unix server have to be?" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Byte have an article in today's ServingLinux column which talks about the factors to consider when planning a new server. FreeBSD gets a mention: "Together with other algorithmic deficiencies of the Linux memory manager, this results in poor performance when memory is tight compared to, say, FreeBSD or Solaris. It is therefore imperative to give to your Linux server ample RAM to avoid the inefficient page scanner. ...As with other disk I/O it is mandatory to spread the swap spaces among as many disks as possible. Solaris, HP-UX, Irix, BSD and UnixWare will all automatically round-robin among available swap-spaces, even if added at run-time. Linux, will not round-robin if you don't stripe the swap-spaces among physical units by means of RAID 0 or 1." It's a shame they missed the obvious conclusion: instead of over-compensating in hardware to deal with an inefficient operating system, use one which can make good use of what you already have. The column is at http://www.byte.com/columns/servinglinux/1999/06/0607servinglinux.html Kris ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jun 8 8:56:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD6D15012; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id VAA20694; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:54:29 +0600 (UDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA01217; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:36:40 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00427; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:36:53 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:36:52 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fortran 90 and High Perfomance Fortran for FreeBSD ?! In-Reply-To: <375D148B.58589792@psrv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear All, Pacific Sierra released F90 and HPF compilers. They are available for a number of platforms, but not for FreeBSD. F90 (Linux version) works so-so under Linux emulation, but I have not yet got HPF working (ld complains during linking). what they replied me > We currently do not have any plans to port to FreeBSD, however; if we > see more demand for this platform we may consider this. I will include > your Email with a list of users interested in FreeBSD. If we decided to > include FreeBSD support, I will send you Email. anybody else needs HPF for FreeBSD ?! Pacific Sierra URL http://www.psrv.com Regards, (Наилучшие пожелания) Ilia Chipitsine (Илья Шипицин) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jun 8 17:37:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (web221.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6DBF1598E for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r4400@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990609003819.28635.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.210.110.200] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:38:19 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: sgi mips Subject: Big-Name Users To: advocacy@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you might want to look at: http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/Reports/199905/developers/ a number of big name companies are using freebsd on some of their web servers. r4400. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jun 9 1:15:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C0E14E61 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:14:40 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id MKM83KQB; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:06:48 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10rdac-0003tN-00; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:20:02 +0100 To: sgi mips Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Big-Name Users X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: sgi mips's message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:38:19 PDT" <19990609003819.28635.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:20:02 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 8 June 1999, sgi mips proclaimed: > you might want to look at: > http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/Reports/199905/developers/ > > a number of big name companies are using freebsd on some of > their web servers. Sadly, there are far too many using NT4. :-( What is interesting is in the Lotus domain: http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/Reports/199905/developers/lotus.html About 2/3 of the way down, is a link about www.lotus.khv.ru. It's running Lotus Notes... On FreeBSD! It claims to be release as well. Now all we need to do is get them to release it outside of Lotus... -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jun 9 1:30: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AB214E61 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01421 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA21116 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990609102217.A20651@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:17 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: [arnim@rupp.de: Danger of software patents in Europe] Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from arnim rupp ----- Delivered-To: wosch@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:26:53 +0200 From: arnim rupp X-Accept-Language: en To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Danger of software patents in Europe -- forwarded message -- From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gnu.announce,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Danger of software patents in Europe Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: To: info-gnu@gnu.org, gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org The GNU Project urges all computer users in Europe to take a look at www.freepatents.org, and then follow their recommendations for action, to help avert the danger of software patents in Europe. Please re-post this message widely in appropriate forums. -- end of forwarded message -- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jun 9 4:20:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6A154F7 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.francenet.fr [193.149.97.60]) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10226 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id A58751FFF6; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:16:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990609131641.V27800@FranceNet.fr> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:16:41 +0200 From: Sebastien GIORIA To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 3.1 on CD-ROM and 7 pages for FreeBSD in French magazine Reply-To: Sebastien GIORIA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Operating-System: Definitely FreeBSD Function: Unix and Security Administrator Organization: FranceNet Postal-Address: 28 Rue Desaix , 75015 PARIS, FRANCE Phone: +33 1 43 92 12 34 Fax: +33 1 43 92 14 45 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-2.2.8-RELEASE (PAO enabled) on Dell Inspiron 3200 X-URL: http://www.FranceNet.fr -- http://www.freebsd-fr.org Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A French magazine, Dream/Login , have distribute FreeBSD 3.1 on a CD-ROM an wrote 7 pages on FreeBSD. They detailled the install program for the newbies who want to install FreeBSD and wrote some others articles on it. I've contact the editor to made the articles availables on our French web site (http//www.FreeBSD-fr.org), and waiting for his response. I'm on contact with an another French magazine, call Windows News (yes really), who want to test FreeBSD 3.2 and they want to made another article. S. -- --> failed trials, system needs redesigned <-- Sebastien Gioria - FranceNet gioria@francenet.fr Unix && Security Administrator security@francenet.fr Tout FreeBSD en Francais =========> http://www.freebsd-fr.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jun 9 10:27:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [194.126.80.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107514D23 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pc5s03a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.211.198] helo=marder-1.) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rm84-00063V-00; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:27:09 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA00361; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:24:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:24:59 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Dom Mitchell Cc: sgi mips , advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Big-Name Users Message-ID: <19990609182459.C261@marder-1> References: <19990609003819.28635.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dom Mitchell on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 09:20:02AM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 09:20:02AM +0100, Dom Mitchell wrote: > On 8 June 1999, sgi mips proclaimed: > > you might want to look at: > > http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/Reports/199905/developers/ > > > > a number of big name companies are using freebsd on some of > > their web servers. > > Sadly, there are far too many using NT4. :-( > > What is interesting is in the Lotus domain: > > http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/Reports/199905/developers/lotus.html > > About 2/3 of the way down, is a link about www.lotus.khv.ru. It's running > Lotus Notes... On FreeBSD! It claims to be release as well. Now all we need > to do is get them to release it outside of Lotus... > I just checked, and querying www.hotmail.com now reports FreeBSD again. A while ago it only reported Apache. I mentioned this to Mike Prettejohn at the Bath meet (I figured M$ had found a way to stop FreeBSD being reported) and it seems they've addressed the problem :-) > -- > Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator > > "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC > -- > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > ********************************************************************** > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jun 10 7:50:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71EC15367 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id KAA24243; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma024001; Thu, 10 Jun 99 10:50:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:50:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: burning a cd In-reply-to: <375FB5CF.430953BB@nova.org> To: Brian Sletten Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Brian Sletten wrote: > Please post any information you may find, Matt/Richard. When I bought my > machine from a company that builds FreeBSD machines, they asked me if I > wanted a CD-RW. The one they were selling was an HP 8200i. I asked if it > worked w/ FreeBSD and was told that it did. Quite distressingly, it did > not. I have yet to burn a CD w/ this device under 2.2.8, 3.0.X, 3.1, or > 3.2. > (This might interest the -advocacy group...) What company is it that builds FreeBSD machines? Thanks, SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jun 10 7:58: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from prisoner.onesoft.com (unknown [208.209.133.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA43D15367 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsletten@nova.org) Received: from nova.org (sam-gatt0011.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.87.92]) by prisoner.onesoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id MS4JFD3G; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:59:01 -0400 Message-ID: <375FD323.30B184D9@nova.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:00:51 -0400 From: Brian Sletten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Seth Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burning a cd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Please post any information you may find, Matt/Richard. When I bought > > my machine from a company that builds FreeBSD machines, they asked me > > if I wanted a CD-RW. The one they were selling was an HP 8200i. I > > asked if it worked w/ FreeBSD and was told that it did. Quite > > distressingly, it did not. I have yet to burn a CD w/ this device > > under 2.2.8, 3.0.X, 3.1, or 3.2. > (This might interest the -advocacy group...) > What company is it that builds FreeBSD machines? Atipa. Already known to the FreeBSD community. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jun 10 12:36:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B5914E6A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA42053; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:44:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:44:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Elbel Cc: Wes Peters , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals Message-ID: <19990610194418.A41777@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990605224422.A70789@consol.de> <3759FCC2.D2666FFE@softweyr.com> <19990607080257.B42584@consol.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990607080257.B42584@consol.de>; from Michael Elbel on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:02:59AM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:02:59AM +0200, Michael Elbel wrote: > I think it would not be too much work replacing the low number of questions > that are more Solaris/SYSV than BSD. Looks like someone's already done the work for Linux. From an e-mail they just sent me; > Windows 98 Administrator > Linux Administrator > Written English > > Coming very soon: > > Programmer/Analyst Aptitude Indicator > > If you have any questions/concerns, please contact us at > mailto:support@tekmetrics.com So, who wants to tackle this then? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jun 11 0:29:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFBE15212 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA73501; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Seth Cc: Brian Sletten , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:50:08 EDT." Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:30:05 -0700 Message-ID: <73497.929086205@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > (This might interest the -advocacy group...) > > What company is it that builds FreeBSD machines? http://www.tesys.com (Telenet solutions) is one such company that's making an increasing living off of building FreeBSD machines and would probably like to become the "VA research" of the FreeBSD world, so to speak. They also design and build their own (nice) cases and do quite a bit of FreeBSD-based QA on their boxes so I'd be inclined to trust their work, also being rather familiar with it on a personal basis having had a couple of machines built by them. They're also donating 5 of their new thin rack-mount systems to the FreeBSD project, no strings attached, and I'm hardly displeased about this either. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message