From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 12:32:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC9C15315; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA06211; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:32:20 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Steve Price Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/xantfarm/patches patch-aa Message-ID: <19990606123220.C1505@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <199906061604.JAA29258@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906061604.JAA29258@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Steve Price on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 09:04:55AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 09:04:55AM -0700, Steve Price wrote: > steve 1999/06/06 09:04:54 PDT > > Added files: > x11/xantfarm/patches patch-aa > Log: > time(3) returns a time_t and not a long. One bold step toward making xantfarm T2.038K compliant! Woo-hoo! Matt, whose office Ant Farm lasted about a week. -- Matthew Hunt * Science rules. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 15: 5: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha1.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB17214CB8; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@mail) Received: from cx344940-a ([24.6.21.74]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a>; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:05:06 -0700 From: "Conrad Sabatier" Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:03:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Volunteer needed Reply-To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone interested in taking over the maintenance of the AWE/PnP setup tutorial for FreeBSD that I was hosting on my web pages (now that I'm a full-fledged, full-time Windows 98 user once again), please feel free to copy, make any edits you see fit to, and install it for public consumption wherever you please. I hereby grant full and unrestricted permission to use the material as you like. The URL (which probably won't be around after this month, as I've finally gotten cable access) is: http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.html Thanks. -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 15:51:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C831B15111; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@rush.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08855; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:51:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch To: announce@freebsd.org Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Dinner Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Will be Tuesday Night, 9 pm, at Abalonetti's on The Fisherman's Wharf in Monterey. The Menu will be : Appetizer : Antipasto Bar Second Course: House Salad or Clam Chowder Entree: choice of Salmon/Swordfish, New York Steak, Grilled CHicken Breast All served with seasoned new potatoes, sauteed vegetables and tomato salsa. Dessert: Creme Brulee Coffee/Tea Service. Price will be $32.80 per person, gratuity included. Please RSVP so I have a tentative amount of people coming, I reserved 32 spots pending a response so I didn;t have to shell out alot of money out of my pcoket ;) -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking "And if my owners let me have some free time some day..... With all good intention I would probably run away..... clutching the short straw." -Marillion, "That Time of the Night", _Clutching_at_Straws_ ___________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 15:56:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BCE14D08; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11979; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:56:35 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Pat Lynch Cc: announce@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dinner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Pat Lynch wrote: Sounds like a great place. Consider me there. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 17:26:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp [133.34.17.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8648A1553F; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp) Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-Naklab-2.1-19981120) with ESMTP id JAA04343; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:26:03 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199906070026.JAA04343@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: Volunteer needed From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:03:38 -0500" References: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:26:03 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:03:38 -0500, "Conrad Sabatier" said: conrads> Anyone interested in taking over the maintenance of the AWE/PnP conrads> setup tutorial for FreeBSD that I was hosting on my web pages I would like to take that place. Soon I will resume working on a driver for EMU8000 under Luigi's driver, so it should be good to update the tutorial by myself. Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 17:28: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp [133.34.17.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D8A15545; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp) Received: from rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-Naklab-2.1-19981120) with ESMTP id JAA04381; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:27:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199906070027.JAA04381@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: Volunteer needed From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:26:03 +0900" References: <199906070026.JAA04343@rina.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:27:57 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:26:03 +0900, Seigo Tanimura said: conrads> Anyone interested in taking over the maintenance of the AWE/PnP conrads> setup tutorial for FreeBSD that I was hosting on my web pages tanimura> I would like to take that place. Soon I will resume working on a driver Sorry, the URI is: http://www.naklab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp/~tanimura/awepnp-freebsd.html Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 17:56:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3CB15545; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25405; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:26:07 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 10:26:07 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Conrad Sabatier Subject: RE: Volunteer needed Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Jun-99 Conrad Sabatier wrote: > The URL (which probably won't be around after this month, as I've > finally gotten cable access) is: > > http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.html Well I have a page up at http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/awe64.html - I'll just make it more verbose. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 18:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCFC14DF0 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca) Received: (from taob@localhost) by tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29016; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca To: Nathan Ahlstrom Cc: Pat Lynch , FREEBSD-CHAT Subject: Re: Usenix conf In-Reply-To: <19990604092829.D4948@winternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Nathan Ahlstrom wrote: > > So we know that tuesday is the day, but do we know the specific time > and place? What about a meeting place? Is there a FreeBSD BOF on > tuesday night and we can go to eat from there? The FreeBSD BoF is at 6:00 pm on Thursday, but some FreeBSD folks (David Greenman, among others, I think?) may be speaking earlier on in the week... I've identified several FreeBSD folks from the attendee list, but so far the only one I've spied is Guido van Rooij. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 18:46:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278FD14DF0 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@rush.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12659; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch To: Brian Tao Cc: Nathan Ahlstrom , FREEBSD-CHAT Subject: Re: Usenix conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yes, the dinner is on Tuesday though, because there is the History of BSD UNIX BoF on Thursday as well. Guido can point me, Jordan, Mike Smith, Bill Swingle, Branson Matheson, and a few others out. MOst of the time we can be found at the terminal room except for the times we go back to the hotel rooms for naps ;) if you are interested in the dinner, its $32.80 payable the night of the dinner , Tuesday, at Abalonetti's on Fisherman's wharf, at 9 pm =) see prior posts on menu. -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking "And if my owners let me have some free time some day..... With all good intention I would probably run away..... clutching the short straw." -Marillion, "That Time of the Night", _Clutching_at_Straws_ ___________________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian Tao wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Nathan Ahlstrom wrote: > > > > So we know that tuesday is the day, but do we know the specific time > > and place? What about a meeting place? Is there a FreeBSD BOF on > > tuesday night and we can go to eat from there? > > The FreeBSD BoF is at 6:00 pm on Thursday, but some FreeBSD folks > (David Greenman, among others, I think?) may be speaking earlier on in > the week... I've identified several FreeBSD folks from the attendee > list, but so far the only one I've spied is Guido van Rooij. > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 19: 9:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC214DD3; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-5-174.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.174]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18132; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA02869; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:10:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:10:57 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Volunteer needed Message-ID: <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net> References: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a>; from Conrad Sabatier on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 05:03:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Conrad Sabatier: |Anyone interested in taking over the maintenance of the AWE/PnP |setup tutorial for FreeBSD that I was hosting on my web pages |(now that I'm a full-fledged, full-time Windows 98 user once again), Huh? What is this? Full-time Win98? Conrad, when you say something like that, you have to give more info -- otherwise we'll just have to assume you've lost it ;-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 19:25:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.8.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528C9150BB for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA24861; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:25:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> To: chat@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD BOF Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:25:42 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't heard yet if anyone is planning on definately getting together for a BOF this week at Usenix. I'm out here looking for a couple of people to hang out with. So, if you're out in Monterey, give me an (email) shout, and I'll be more than happy to hook up with you guys... I'll even consider picking up dinner or a couple of rounds ;) -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 19:50:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE8E14E9A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:50:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@rush.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13062; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:50:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF In-Reply-To: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out previous posts on USENIX DInner (re: Dinner) and yes there is a BoF from 6-7 on Thursday ;) and I'm always up to hang out. -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking "And if my owners let me have some free time some day..... With all good intention I would probably run away..... clutching the short straw." -Marillion, "That Time of the Night", _Clutching_at_Straws_ ___________________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > I haven't heard yet if anyone is planning on definately getting together for > a BOF this week at Usenix. I'm out here looking for a couple of people to > hang out with. So, if you're out in Monterey, give me an (email) shout, > and I'll be more than happy to hook up with you guys... I'll even consider > picking up dinner or a couple of rounds ;) > -Brian > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 19:53:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AA01577F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA03809; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:53:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:53:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF In-Reply-To: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I looked at the board earlier today and if my memory serves me the FreeBSD BOF is Thursday night 6:00-7:00 pm. Of course someone will correct me if I'm wrong. On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Brian J. McGovern wrote: # I haven't heard yet if anyone is planning on definately getting together for # a BOF this week at Usenix. I'm out here looking for a couple of people to # hang out with. So, if you're out in Monterey, give me an (email) shout, # and I'll be more than happy to hook up with you guys... I'll even consider # picking up dinner or a couple of rounds ;) # -Brian # # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 21:54:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04CF14BD5; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.54.253]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA640F; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:54:24 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA35888; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:54:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:54:29 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Randall Hopper Cc: Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Volunteer needed Message-ID: <19990607065429.B35729@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 11:10:57PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 11:10:57PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > Conrad Sabatier: > > |(now that I'm a full-fledged, full-time Windows 98 user once again), > > Huh? What is this? Full-time Win98? Conrad, when you say something like > that, you have to give more info -- otherwise we'll just have to assume > you've lost it ;-) Guess you missed his goodbye FreeBSD mail and subsequently the the thread? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 22:27:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798514F94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13040; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@cdrom.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:25:42 EDT." <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:28:49 -0700 Message-ID: <13036.928733329@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I haven't heard yet if anyone is planning on definately getting together for > a BOF this week at Usenix. I'm out here looking for a couple of people to It's at 6:00pm (0100Z :) on Thursday. We're also having a FreeBSD dinner at Abalonetti's - see previous email from Pat Lynch - on Tuesday night and you're more than welcome to join us; you don't even have to pick up the tab. :) - Jordan > hang out with. So, if you're out in Monterey, give me an (email) shout, > and I'll be more than happy to hook up with you guys... I'll even consider > picking up dinner or a couple of rounds ;) > -Brian > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 22:53:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A25E15582 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 70633 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jun 1999 05:53:42 -0000 Date: 6 Jun 1999 22:53:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:53:42 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: FreeBSD Chat Subject: usenix pix Message-ID: <19990606225342.A70610@dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For anyone that's interested you can check out some misc pics of usenix so far. woo. http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ -Bill -- -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 6 23: 6:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785CB14D88 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03879; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906070603.XAA03879@implode.root.com> To: Brian Tao Cc: Nathan Ahlstrom , Pat Lynch , FREEBSD-CHAT Subject: Re: Usenix conf In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:20:04 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:03:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Nathan Ahlstrom wrote: >> >> So we know that tuesday is the day, but do we know the specific time >> and place? What about a meeting place? Is there a FreeBSD BOF on >> tuesday night and we can go to eat from there? > > The FreeBSD BoF is at 6:00 pm on Thursday, but some FreeBSD folks >(David Greenman, among others, I think?) may be speaking earlier on in >the week... I've identified several FreeBSD folks from the attendee >list, but so far the only one I've spied is Guido van Rooij. I'll be there tomorrow afternoon. I'm the session chair for the first two freenix sessions. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 0:36:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BDC1518D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:35:37 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id MKM83J3X; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:27:46 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10qu1e-000Ahi-00; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:40:54 +0100 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Bill Swingle , Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD UNIX left out of IA-64 information X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: "Matthew N. Dodd"'s message of "Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:10:59 EDT" Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:40:54 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 June 1999, "Matthew N. Dodd" proclaimed: > On 4 Jun 1999, Bill Swingle wrote: > > Mike Smith was just standing over my shoulder reading this rather funny > > email written by Brett and had this to say: > > > > "I delegated that duty to Brett Glass at Comdex. This post is most > > likely a cover-up for his inablity to negotiate a deal with the Intel > > folks. Tell him he's fired." > > I don't see much of a point investing the effort to port to a CPU that is > still vapor and is likely to be a failure. At the very least the initial > examples are likely to be priced out of the PC market. > > I don't think it will be a big deal if more than a year passes before > FreeBSD has an IA-64 release. Surely it depends more than anything else on the compiler. How much of our source tree is assembly? I would imagine that most of the work that is being done for Linux in the respect of the compiler would apply equally well to us. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 4:39:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F3C14C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem05.masternet.it [194.184.65.15]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA24843; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:39:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <4.1.19990607132922.009acd10@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:37:25 +0200 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: Volunteer needed Cc: Conrad Sabatier In-Reply-To: <19990607065429.B35729@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net> <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Guess you missed his goodbye FreeBSD mail and subsequently the the thread? Hard disks are becoming cheaper and cheaper (less than 200 USD for more than 10 gb) and a multiboot is not difficult to install... Perhaps he can return on his steps and consider to mantain both Operating system. Btw is so strange.. in this period I am seeing a lot of person do the opposite step (Win98 --> FreeBSD/Linux) and also my university is evaluating staroffice to take the place of M$ Office, it's must cheaper (especially with the campus license) and it can't be less reliable :-) Once they begin to exit from M$ Office dependancy everything can be easier. A lot of Windows 9x boxes could be converted to Unix ones... :-) Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 4:49:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha1.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C714C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@mail) Received: from cx344940-a ([24.6.21.74]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990607114938.CGSH22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:49:38 -0700 From: "Conrad Sabatier" Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Volunteer needed Reply-To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19990607065429.B35729@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990606231057.A2820@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 11:10:57PM -0400 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990607114938.CGSH22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 11:10:57PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > > Conrad Sabatier: > > > > |(now that I'm a full-fledged, full-time Windows 98 user once again), > > > > Huh? What is this? Full-time Win98? Conrad, when you say something > > like that, you have to give more info -- otherwise we'll just have to > > assume you've lost it ;-) > > Guess you missed his goodbye FreeBSD mail and subsequently the the thread? Heh. :-) Well, to tell the truth, I've already come *this* close to saying "F" it, and coming back to FreeBSD. Had a devil of a time troubleshooting a networking problem last night. Was up into the wee hours of the morning, with god-know-how-many reboots, and still no luck. Finally worked it out this morning, thank goodness, but talk about frustration there for a while! I sure could have used some of the tools I've grown accustomed to using under FreeBSD, I can tell you that! We'll see. I have a feeling this little fling will wear itself out rather quickly, and I'll be back with you guys again, probably before the summer's even out. :-) While Windows *does* have a lot of neat toys you can download and play with, when I got to thinking about what I was doing the last few days, it dawned on me that all it was was the same stuff I would have been doing under Unix (reading news, mail, grabbing files, playing MIDIs and MP3s, etc.), only with a somewhat more glossy facade over it all, and a heck of a lot less "meat" underneath. Besides, if I don't give FreeBSD another go, I'll never get to see what it would have been like to do a network install over a fast Ethernet connection. Curiosity's *bound* to get the best of me. :-) God, I feel *so* much better this morning, now that my net is back up. Catch ya'all later, Conrad -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 5:30: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D806E14DA6 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18392.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.72]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23620; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA24959; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:30:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:30:23 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support Message-ID: <19990607083023.C24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: <199906070104.VAA80635@cs.rpi.edu> <22191.928729127@coconut.itojun.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <22191.928729127@coconut.itojun.org>; from Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:18:47PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [-current -=> -chat] [Re: multiple groups developing wchar support] On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:18:47PM +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > (again, there's language barrier problem... I think we should sort > it out. I believe the best way is to ban Japanese-language mailing > list for the project, but other volunteers may have some trouble) Hmm... A bilingual mailing-list? That would certainly be difficult for people who only speak one of the two languages, and a bit of a strain for people who speak both ("Will someone please tell me what lij@lij.jp just said?"), but if were to save the repeat of a lot of trouble... -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 6:46:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F4914D3D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (neon.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.211]) by nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21285; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:39:37 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) To: vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca Cc: itojun@itojun.org, crossd@cs.rpi.edu, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:30:23 -0400" <19990607083023.C24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: <19990607083023.C24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990607224550I.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:45:50 +0900 From: UEBAYASHI Masao X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 47 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > (again, there's language barrier problem... I think we should sort > > it out. I believe the best way is to ban Japanese-language mailing > > list for the project, but other volunteers may have some trouble) Good! I'm totally for HAGINO san! :D (his family name stands later!) > Hmm... A bilingual mailing-list? That would certainly be difficult No. HAGINO san says that all Japanese FreeBSD users _must_ write / speak in English. jp.FreeBSD.ORG have some lists. People talk in Japanese language there. Although these lists consist of Japanese (Japanese speakers) only, contents include a manner of things, very conprehensive, at least to me. Moreover, because many books related to FreeBSD in Japanese language have been published recently, in Japan area, novice users can go on with FreeBSD without r/w English. Some are reluctant to r/w not only source or man pages but also plain English text at all!!! As for non-novice... We (including me) can r/w more easily in Japanese than English. So people tend to use _only_ in-Japanese-language lists and discard English lists. Here is tragedy, oh, such a closed community we are! :-( I think Japanese FreeBSD users from now must not only read more English but also write more English. It would be beneficial for both. I'm wondering many efforts by Japanese directly contibute to FreeBSD community. However I feel regret that I cannot write neat rhetric in English as in Japanese! :-( Thanks for your reading! Masao BTW, I can internationalized my signature. --- ``My economic life -- never in the realms of economics.'' |- -|--|- _|_ /|\/|\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 7:41:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ftp.dns.ne.jp (ftp.dns.ne.jp [210.155.3.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4421215159 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanimura@sakuramail.com) Received: from silver.carrots (yksk0119.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp [210.131.91.83]) by ftp.dns.ne.jp (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23253; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:40:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.carrots (8.9.3+3.1W/3.7W) with ESMTP id XAA89852; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:39:57 +0900 (JST) To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: Volunteer needed From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:13 -0500" <19990607114938.CGSH22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> References: <19990607114938.CGSH22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990607233956C.tanimura@sakuramail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:39:56 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 13 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Conrad Sabatier" Subject: Re: Volunteer needed Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:48:13 -0500 Message-ID: <19990607114938.CGSH22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> conrads> Well, to tell the truth, I've already come *this* close to saying "F" conrads> it, and coming back to FreeBSD. Had a devil of a time You mean you are still going to keep working on awepnp-freebsd.html? Seigo TANIMURA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 8:28:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8AA14C58 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18411.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.91]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29165; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA25630; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:28:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:28:49 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: UEBAYASHI Masao Cc: itojun@itojun.org, crossd@cs.rpi.edu, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support Message-ID: <19990607112849.A25563@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: <19990607083023.C24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> <19990607224550I.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990607224550I.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp>; from UEBAYASHI Masao on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 10:45:50PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 10:45:50PM +0900, UEBAYASHI Masao wrote: > > I think Japanese FreeBSD users from now must not only read more > English but also write more English. It would be beneficial for > both. I'm wondering many efforts by Japanese directly contibute to > FreeBSD community. But the ability to use (and even develop) FreeBSD without using any English must also contribute to FreeBSD's strength in Japan. I can certainly sympathise with non-English readers who don't follow high-volume lists such as -current or -hackers. There are a lot of native English readers who don't... OTOH, I hate to suggest YAM (Yet Another Mailinglist). David Cross's wchar project should be listed on http://www.FreeBSD.org/projects/ I think. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 9: 6:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA7AC14D65 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 73266 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 16:06:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:06:43 -0500 (CDT) From: John Sconiers To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Volunteer needed In-Reply-To: <19990606220506.YLPM22376.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@cx344940-a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm interested. > Anyone interested in taking over the maintenance of the AWE/PnP > setup tutorial for FreeBSD that I was hosting on my web pages > (now that I'm a full-fledged, full-time Windows 98 user once again), > please feel free to copy, make any edits you see fit to, and install it > for public consumption wherever you please. I hereby grant full and > unrestricted permission to use the material as you like. > > The URL (which probably won't be around after this month, as I've > finally gotten cable access) is: > > http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.html > > Thanks. > -- > Conrad Sabatier > http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 9:10:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id C553614E17; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cell phones at usenix Message-Id: <19990607161017.C553614E17@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org there are a lot of people here at usenix. if you have a cell phone, please send me the number. i'll collect the list and distribute it to FreeBSD folks. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 11:44: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [194.126.80.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADF6157C6 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pf7s08a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.216.248] helo=marder-1.) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10r4N2-0002mr-00; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:43:41 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id TAA00309; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:41:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:41:38 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Pat Lynch Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF Message-ID: <19990607194138.A255@marder-1> References: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Pat Lynch on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 10:50:11PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 10:50:11PM -0400, Pat Lynch wrote: > Check out previous posts on USENIX DInner (re: Dinner) and yes there is a > BoF from 6-7 on Thursday ;) > Ok guys, put me out of my misery, I've been thinking about it for a couple of days, but can't work it out......what the hell is a BOF??? -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 11:47: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DE214C95 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nrahlstr@mail.winternet.com) Received: from tundra.winternet.com (nrahlstr@tundra.winternet.com [198.174.169.11]) by icicle.winternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01578; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:46:59 -0500 (CDT) SMTP "HELO" (ESMTP) greeting from tundra.winternet.com But _really_ from :: nrahlstr@tundra.winternet.com [198.174.169.11] SMTP "MAIL From" = nrahlstr@mail.winternet.com (Nathan Ahlstrom) SMTP "RCPT To" = Received: (from nrahlstr@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA23768; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:46:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19990607134619.G22441@winternet.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:46:19 -0500 From: Nathan Ahlstrom To: Mark Ovens Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> <19990607194138.A255@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990607194138.A255@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 07:41:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Ovens wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 10:50:11PM -0400, Pat Lynch wrote: > > Check out previous posts on USENIX DInner (re: Dinner) and yes there is a > > BoF from 6-7 on Thursday ;) > > > > Ok guys, put me out of my misery, I've been thinking about it for > a couple of days, but can't work it out......what the hell is a > BOF??? Birds of a Feather. -- Nathan Ahlstrom FreeBSD: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ nrahlstr@winternet.com PGP Key ID: 0x67BC9D19 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 12: 4:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sand5.global.net.uk (sand5.global.net.uk [194.126.80.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0886E14C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pf7s08a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.216.248] helo=marder-1.) by sand5.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10r4gq-0000Lv-00 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:04:09 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id UAA00393 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:02:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:02:03 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD BOF Message-ID: <19990607200203.B255@marder-1> References: <199906070225.WAA24861@spoon.beta.com> <19990607194138.A255@marder-1> <19990607134619.G22441@winternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990607134619.G22441@winternet.com>; from Nathan Ahlstrom on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:46:19PM -0500 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:46:19PM -0500, Nathan Ahlstrom wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 10:50:11PM -0400, Pat Lynch wrote: > > > Check out previous posts on USENIX DInner (re: Dinner) and yes there is a > > > BoF from 6-7 on Thursday ;) > > > > > > > Ok guys, put me out of my misery, I've been thinking about it for > > a couple of days, but can't work it out......what the hell is a > > BOF??? > > Birds of a Feather. > Thanks. No wonder I couldn't work it out, I was thinking of technical/computing terms/words. > -- > Nathan Ahlstrom FreeBSD: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > nrahlstr@winternet.com PGP Key ID: 0x67BC9D19 > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 15:22:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.quest.com (unknown [192.77.210.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1341581E; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SBenjamin@quest.com) Received: by exchange.quests.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:21:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1D7D0A00F0E8D111A26600104B873E4C01783957@exchange.quests.com> From: Scott Benjamin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kingston Card.. Supported? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:21:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm going to be getting a ADSL modem and the NIC card that is included in the package is a Kingston KNE410, unfortunately I don't know if it is a PCI or ISA NIC. Does anyone have any idea if it should work with FreeBSD-Stable? Thanks in advance, Scott ---- "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature" -- Rich Kulawiec To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 15:49:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net (dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net [209.212.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0764E15324; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.noc.cup.ndp.net [127.0.0.1]) by dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA23178; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy McConnell To: Scott Benjamin Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kingston Card.. Supported? In-Reply-To: <1D7D0A00F0E8D111A26600104B873E4C01783957@exchange.quests.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got one (10/100, PCI) from P*B, and it works quite well. The P*B service leaves something to be desired... but then again, you get what you pay for. -Andy On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Scott Benjamin wrote: }I'm going to be getting a ADSL modem and the NIC card that is included in }the package is a Kingston KNE410, unfortunately I don't know if it is a PCI }or ISA NIC. Does anyone have any idea if it should work with }FreeBSD-Stable? } }Thanks in advance, } }Scott } }---- }"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature" } -- Rich Kulawiec } } } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message } -- Andy McConnell 真向練 安堵龍 IP Operations Manager andym@ntt.net Network and IP Service Division, NTT America +1 408 873 3757 Yesterday it worked Today it is not working Windows is like that -- Haiku by Margaret Segall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 17: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [194.77.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB1114C9C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA12363 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:00:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA41873 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:50:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:50:44 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: finally got the ... Message-ID: <19990608015044.A41836@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CCNA certification done today with 92% ... ;-) Hurray, hurray ;-) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 20:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.actrix.gen.nz (mail2.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBBE14FA2 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@xtra.co.nz) Received: from actrix.gen.nz (www@lemuria.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.20]) by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA23827 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:50:09 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:50:10 nzst Subject: Wellington, New Zealand installathon X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.1t, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <375c92f2.37ea.0@actrix.gen.nz> X-User-Info: 202.37.52.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org NZFUG will hold it's first installathon Saturday June 12. Details at http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/installathon.html - Dan Langille To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 7 22:25:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFD414E94 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.55.239]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA603E; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:25:13 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA51518; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:25:28 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Andreas Klemm Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finally got the ... Message-ID: <19990608072528.C51311@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990608015044.A41836@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i In-Reply-To: <19990608015044.A41836@titan.klemm.gtn.com>; from Andreas Klemm on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:50:44AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:50:44AM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > CCNA certification done today with 92% ... ;-) > > Hurray, hurray ;-) Coolies =) congratz... That explains yer interest in Zebra *G* ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The *BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 0:44:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A6D14EF9 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pieterw@support.euronet.nl) Received: (from pieterw@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05709; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:43:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pieterw) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:43:50 +0200 From: Pieter Westland To: Bill Swingle Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: usenix pix Message-ID: <19990608094350.B29041@support.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i X-OS: FreeBSD support.euronet.nl 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE X-URL: http://support.euronet.nl/~pieterw X-Editor: vim X-Organization: EuroNet * Internet Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6 Jun 1999 22:53:42 -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: >For anyone that's interested you can check out some misc pics of usenix >so far. woo. >http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ Does anyone know where the banner, shown at http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/usenix__077.jpg can be ordered? I desperately need a new wall covering :) Pieter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 0:52:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C6014E0F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17789; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Pieter Westland Cc: Bill Swingle , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usenix pix In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:43:50 +0200." <19990608094350.B29041@support.euronet.nl> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 00:52:02 -0700 Message-ID: <17785.928828322@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone know where the banner, shown at > http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/usenix__077.jpg can be ordered? I'm afraid it's not for sale - it was a special order. I think you can have a similar one made for around the same price we paid - $400 or so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 1:26:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61AA614ED8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 79636 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 1999 08:26:17 -0000 Date: 8 Jun 1999 01:26:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:26:17 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: FreeBSD Chat Subject: USENIX Chopper Pics :) Message-ID: <19990608012617.A79618@dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Today Jordan and I had the pleasure of flying in a chopper flown by Brian McGovern. The trip went from Salinas to San Francisco and back in just over two hours. My low quality/high quantity pics are at: http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ (chopper*) Jordan took fewer but better pictures: http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ Enjoy! :) -Bill -- -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 2: 4:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from web1001.mail.yahoo.com (web1001.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BF6814FDD for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvmcg@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990608090316.20097.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.243.134.153] by web1001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 02:03:16 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McGroarty Reply-To: brian@pobox.com Subject: Re: usenix pix To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know - I'd love to have one too. They'd surely be cheaper in quantity, especially if they've still got the screen from making the first one. If we could find four or five people willing to pay $150 apiece, I bet we could have it done - with your permission of course. --- "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Does anyone know where the banner, shown at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/usenix__077.jpg can be > ordered? > > I'm afraid it's not for sale - it was a special order. I > think you > can have a similar one made for around the same price we paid > - $400 > or so. > > - Jordan === --- Yes, I know.... But you wouldn't believe the quality of Yahoo!'s spam filters =) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 2:21:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3571314C1A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (neon.enveng.titech.ac.jp [131.112.148.211]) by nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA24682 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:15:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp) To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:28:49 -0400" <19990607112849.A25563@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: <19990607112849.A25563@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990608182154O.masao@nf.enveng.titech.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:21:54 +0900 From: UEBAYASHI Masao X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > But the ability to use (and even develop) FreeBSD without using any > English must also contribute to FreeBSD's strength in Japan. In Japan, the number of novice FreeBSD users is getting greater and greater, and as so, the problem of the cost of supporting novice users arises in jp.FreeBSD.ORG. If these novices are reluctant to read English documents, it's very INEFFICIENT. Masao --- ``My economic life -- never in the realms of economics.'' |- -|--|- _|_ /|\/|\ (This is my family name in kanji chars) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 8:27:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F349314E6B; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:28:44 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179644@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: 'Chuck Robey' , itojun@iijlab.net Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "'freebsd-chat@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: wide char support Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:06:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Robey [SMTP:chuckr@picnic.mat.net] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:32 PM > To: itojun@iijlab.net > Cc: David E. Cross; freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: wide char support > > May you both live in interesting times! [ML] No, not that curse! Everyone, flee the Agatean Empire! /Marino To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 9:25:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363F215287 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.41.90]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12262 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <375D4404.129010ED@seattleu.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:25:40 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) References: <19990608012617.A79618@dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Swingle wrote: > > Today Jordan and I had the pleasure of flying in a chopper flown by > Brian McGovern. The trip went from Salinas to San Francisco and back in > just over two hours. > > My low quality/high quantity pics are at: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ (chopper*) > > Jordan took fewer but better pictures: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00053.jpg http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg Just how can people stand to live like that? -- Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu "If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything." -- A. L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 9:31:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2BE14D43 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA39696 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:31:28 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:31:27 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Proposal: Split up cvs-all mailing list? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... has anyone looked into/thought about splitting them up? I'm not sure to what extent this is possible, but I personally would like to monitor changes to -STABLE vs changes to -CURRENT vs changes to -PORT as seperate folders in mail... Right now, I'm personally having problems with -STABLE on my production server, and would like to be able to watch for and read up on any changes to the -STABLE tree wihtout having to scan through several hundred other unrelated emails ... Is this doable? Is this something I could just as easily configure in my procmail that I'm overlooking? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 9:48:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87E514ECC for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26531 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:48:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990608104752.046f36c0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:48:43 -0600 To: chat@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: FYI: Corel announces formation of Linux Advisory Council Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:08:54 -0400 >From: "Judith O'Brien" >For Immediate Release > >Corel Linux Advisory Council Brings Leaders of the Open Source and >Linux Community Together > >Key Linux=AE leaders come together in June to further the adoption of >Linux >in the PC world > >Ottawa, Canada- June 8, 1999- Recognizing the increased interest in >Linux=AE, >Corel Corporation (NASDAQ: COSFF, TSE: COS) has formed the Corel Linux >Advisory Council, a forum that will allow leaders from the open source >and >commercial Linux world to come together and discuss the challenges and >opportunities facing Linux. > >The first meeting of the Corel Linux Advisory Council will take place on > >June 14 and 15, 1999, in Ottawa. This event is a unique opportunity for >leaders in the Linux community to meet and discuss ways to ensure the >success of the operating system (OS), and to accelerate the development >of >the OS and its applications. The council will serve as a focal point of >communications for leaders in the Linux world so that they can share >ideas >and meet the needs of the Linux community. > >"Avenues through which the open source community and commercial vendors >can >come together to discuss how to best move Linux forward in the >enterprise >are greatly needed," said Sandra Steere Potter, Senior Analyst, Linux >Services, The Aberdeen Group, Inc. "Efforts such as Corel's are to be >applauded. I hope to see many vendors and members of the open source >community try this new avenue out." > >The Corel Linux Advisory Council will attempt to address issues and >propose >solutions to create an environment which helps Windows=AE operating system > >vendors to understand the possibilities of Linux, and to assist in the >understanding and the role of commercial applications in the Linux >community. The forum will also provide a framework for the continued >growth >and development of Linux, and provide a unified commercial voice in >association with open source partners. In addition, the forum will >provide >a central voice for the open source community. > >"We have seen how the Linux movement works and it's been very >successful," >said Dr. Michael Cowpland, president and chief executive officer of >Corel >Corporation. "We want to follow the ideology of the Linux community, and > >ensure that the core principles of Linux are kept alive in the >commercial >environment. We also want to continue the growth of Linux by bringing it >to >new markets in the PC world." > >For an hour-long live audiocast of an interview of Corel Linux Advisory >Council members and Corel executives, please visit [www.zdnet.com] or >[www.corel.com], at 3:00 p.m. EST on Tuesday, June 15, 1999. > >Members of the Corel Linux Advisory Council include: > >- Michael Cowpland, President and CEO, Corel Corporation >- Linus Torvalds, Founder of the Linux Operating System >- Jon Hall, Executive Director, Linux International >- Walt Keller, President and CEO, GraphOn >- Dave Sifry, CTO and co-founder, Linuxcare, Inc. >- Darren Benham, Project Secretary, The Debian Project >- Alexandre Julliard, The Wine Project >- Scott McNeil, President and CEO, Zenguin, Inc. >- Michael Mansfield, President, Rebel.com >- Ransom H. Love, President and CEO, Caldera Systems Inc. >- Christopher J. Beard, Founder and President, The Puffin Group >- Alex DeVries, Vice President Engineering, The Puffin Group >- Cristian Tiberna, K Desktop Environment (KDE) >- Havoc Pennington, GNOME >- Arvind Parthasarathi, Business Development Manager (Linux), >Oracle >- Dan Quinlan, Linux Standards Base >- David Wong, President and CEO, 3D Micro Computers >- Alex Daly, President and CEO, Cygnus Solutions >- Kevin Phillips, Cygnus Solutions >- Bob Young, President and CEO, Red Hat >- Larry Augustin, VA Linux Systems Inc. >- David Ames, Philips > >For more information on Corel Linux Advisory Council members or on Corel > >Linux initiatives, please visit Corel's Linux Users Network Community >Web >site at [linux.corel.com]. > >Corel Corporation >Corel Corporation is an internationally recognized developer of >award-winning graphics and business productivity applications. >Development >of market-leading products such as the CorelDRAW=AE line of graphics >applications and the Corel=AE WordPerfect=AE Suite of business tools is >continually evolving to meet the demands of the corporate, retail and >academic markets. Committed to performance, compatibility, value and >open >standards, Corel develops products for the Windows=AE, Macintosh=AE, UNIX= =AE, >Linux=AE and Java(tm) platforms. Corel's common stock trades on The NASDAQ > >Stock Market under the symbol COSFF and on the Toronto Stock Exchange >under the symbol COS. For more information visit Corel's Web site at >www.corel.com. > >-30- > >Corel, WordPerfect, CorelDRAW and the Go Further logo are trademarks or >registered trademarks of Corel Corporation or Corel Corporation Limited. > >Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. UNIX is a registered >trademark of The Open Group. All other product and company names are >trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective companies. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 10: 0:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A63153F2 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: from klemm.gtn.com (pppak04.gtn.com [194.231.123.169]) by picalon.gun.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12120; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:00:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26691; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:45:13 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Andreas Klemm , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finally got the ... Message-ID: <19990608184512.B18398@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <19990608015044.A41836@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <19990608072528.C51311@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990608072528.C51311@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:25:28AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:25:28AM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:50:44AM +0200, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > CCNA certification done today with 92% ... ;-) > > > > Hurray, hurray ;-) > > Coolies =) > > congratz... > > That explains yer interest in Zebra *G* ;) Yes partly ;-) Bad thing is, that at work I have about 640 cisco routers and 80 Cat5000 switches and at home I have nothing, where you would need a dynamic routing protocol. So it's just for fun and research and of course to look, how things in Zebra proceed and stabilize ;-) -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 10:14: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [208.139.222.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD3714EAF for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17710; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:13:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from free.pcs (free.PCS [148.105.10.51]) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA27763; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:13:56 -0500 Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by free.pcs (8.8.6/8.8.5) id MAA08434; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:13:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:13:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <199906081713.MAA08434@free.pcs> To: hodeleri@seattleu.edu, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-chat In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Architecture and Operating System Fanatics Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article you write: >Bill Swingle wrote: >> >> Today Jordan and I had the pleasure of flying in a chopper flown by >> Brian McGovern. The trip went from Salinas to San Francisco and back in >> just over two hours. >> >> My low quality/high quantity pics are at: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ (chopper*) >> >> Jordan took fewer but better pictures: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ > >http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00053.jpg >http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg > >Just how can people stand to live like that? Little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky, Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes just the same. There's a green one and a pink one and a blue one and a yellow one, And they're all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 10:28: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from kemicol.rezidew.net (kemicol.rezidew.net [209.100.228.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C2A114FAE for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:28:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezidew@rezidew.net) Received: (qmail 1226 invoked by uid 100); 8 Jun 1999 12:21:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990608122155.1225.qmail@kemicol.rezidew.net> From: rezidew@rezidew.net Subject: Cyrix, AMD, Intel To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:21:55 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just bought two (new?) machines. one is a AMD-K62 (350) the other is a Cyrix MII (366) I have several questions... #1) how should I compile my kernel 'i[3456]86'? #2) when I boot up the AMD with freebsd it's detected as a 586 running at some where around 356.22MHz. Why only 586? #3) when I boot up the Cyrix with OpenBSD it's detected as a 686 running at 251.36Mhz. should I expect the same with FreeBSD? why does this happen? is there something wrong with the processor? #4) I have a Dual Processor Pentium-Pro-200. If I compile in SMP for that machine, on which of the three machines should I expect to see the best performance? (all things being equal) Thanks in advance -- Graphic Rezidew Graphic@rezidew.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 10:45:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB3314D33 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18371.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.51]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05590; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA07627; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:45:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:45:22 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Split up cvs-all mailing list? Message-ID: <19990608134522.A7547@mad> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:31:27PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:31:27PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Is this doable? Is this something I could just as easily > configure in my procmail that I'm overlooking? I can't say whether it's doable or not, but here's snip from my .procmailrc (it certainly doable from within procmail --- everything is doable from within procmail ;-)... I recall I hacked this together pretty quickly, be warned... I think by the "# This has races" comment I meant that the part where it adds a "mailboxes" line to boxes/mailboxes has races. It doesn't matter for me since I always run it in series, but you probably want to either remove that code or fix it up (not entirely trivial). To make it split-up on RELENG_3 you'll need a line something like :0 B * RELENG_3 { LISTS="$LISTS all-stable" } [That won't work quite right, but I can't find a -stable commit in my list.cvs-committers right now that gives a better search string]. Also, note that on really large commits the subject line gets truncated when it's sent to cvs-all/cvs-committers. I should really be grepping the message body, not the subject, to find where it belongs, but then a little more work would be needed to avoid putting replies into the wrong box. # break-up cvs-committers :0 * ^Sender: owner-cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG * ^Subject: cvs commit: { # URLify PERLSCRIPT=' while (<>) { if (/^\s+(\d+\.)+\d+\s+\+\d+ \-\d+\s+/) { $r = $_; $r =~ s/.*?([a-z]+\/.+)/http\:\/\/www.FreeBSD.ORG\/cgi\/cvsweb\.cgi\/\1/; $l = "$l$r"; } print "$_"; } print "$l"; ' :0 bf | perl -e "${PERLSCRIPT}" :0 * ^Subject:.*ports/ { LISTS="$LISTS list.cvs-committers.ports" } :0 B * ^ports/ * CVSROOT/modules { LISTS="$LISTS list.cvs-committers.ports" } :0 * ^Subject:.*src/release { LISTS="$LISTS list.cvs-committers.src.release" } :0 * ? [ "$LISTS" = "" ] { LISTS="list.cvs-committers" } # This has races. This doesn't LOG new mailbox creation. DELIVER=' cat /dev/stdin > /tmp/proc.msg.$$; for i in $LISTS; do lockfile ${i}.lock; cat /tmp/proc.msg.$$ >> $i; rm -f ${i}.lock; if ! grep $i boxes/mailboxes; then echo "mailboxes ="$i >> boxes/mailboxes; fi; done; rm -f /tmp/proc.msg.$$ ' :0 | sh -c "${DELIVER}" } -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 11:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6131153DD; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA71479; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:42:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: rezidew@rezidew.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrix, AMD, Intel References: <19990608122155.1225.qmail@kemicol.rezidew.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 08 Jun 1999 20:42:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: rezidew@rezidew.net's message of "Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:21:55 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [redirected from -chat to -questions] rezidew@rezidew.net writes: > I have just bought two (new?) machines. > > one is a AMD-K62 (350) > the other is a Cyrix MII (366) > > I have several questions... > > #1) how should I compile my kernel 'i[3456]86'? The following should run on both: machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU > #2) when I boot up the AMD with freebsd it's > detected as a 586 running at some where around > 356.22MHz. Why only 586? Why not? The K6-2 is a Pentium clone, even if it runs at PII speeds. Here's a snippet from dmesg on one of my boxen: CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping=12 Features=0x8021bf > #3) when I boot up the Cyrix with OpenBSD it's > detected as a 686 running at 251.36Mhz. > should I expect the same with FreeBSD? why > does this happen? is there something wrong > with the processor? Yes: it was made by Cyrix. > #4) I have a Dual Processor Pentium-Pro-200. > If I compile in SMP for that machine, > on which of the three machines should I > expect to see the best performance? (all > things being equal) The best performance doing what? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 13:27:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 2DC35153A5; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kingston Card.. Supported? In-Reply-To: <1D7D0A00F0E8D111A26600104B873E4C01783957@exchange.quests.com> from Scott Benjamin at "Jun 7, 1999 3:21:27 pm" To: SBenjamin@quest.com (Scott Benjamin) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 702 Message-Id: <19990608202756.2DC35153A5@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm going to be getting a ADSL modem and the NIC card that is included in > the package is a Kingston KNE410, unfortunately I don't know if it is a PCI > or ISA NIC. Does anyone have any idea if it should work with > FreeBSD-Stable? Looking at the web page, there is no KNE410 model listed. There is a KNE110 -- perhaps you (or somebody else) made a typo? The KNE110TX is a PCI 10/100 card based on the PNIC chip (the chip says Kingston on it but it's really a PNIC). It should work fine with FreeBSD using the pn driver. There also seems to be a KNE40T 10Mbps only PCI adapter however I'm not sure what chipset it uses. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 13:41:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from e-pair.com (adsl-216-102-68-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.68.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B524C14ED5 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@electronmail.com) Received: (qmail 25359 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Jun 1999 21:37:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 21:37:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McCarthy X-Sender: kevin@www.e-pair.com To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Star Wars and Microsoft Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just realized that the "trade empire" on The Phantom Menace refers to Microsoft. It makes perfect sense! Fear leads to Microsoft Miscrosoft leads to anger Anger leads to hate Bill Gates is the Grand Emporer, and Darth Maul is Windows 2000. Go back and keep this in mind! Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 14:35:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EECB14F38 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rage@cyberwitch.org) Received: from localhost (rage@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02201 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Rhiannon X-Sender: rage@bytor.rush.net To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dinner Tonight :) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ok, how many of you do *NOT* know how to find your way to Fisherman's Wharf? We've been trying to devise a workable method of gathering everyone and dispersing the group in the correct direction. In effect, just walk out of the Marriott { Calle Principal }, continue toward the DoubleTree, through the courtyard. Bear slightly left...you should see in the distance the sign for the Fisherman's Wharf Go through the large piazza, and continue until you see the piers. Marina will be on your right.. The restaurant { Abolonnetti's } will be on the left side about half-way into the wharf. The people at the front desk will be happy to give maps :) see you there at 9:00 lorraine ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ how do you know she's a witch ? * * * rage@cyberwitch.org rage@rush.net rage@free.bsdunix.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 14:59:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35DB158B8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rage@cyberwitch.org) Received: from localhost (rage@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02354 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Rhiannon X-Sender: rage@bytor.rush.net To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: :) Dinner again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Due to the large response for the dinner tonight, it's necessary for everyone to please be prepared to pay with cash. Thank you m0m { lorraine } ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ how do you know she's a witch ? * * * rage@cyberwitch.org rage@rush.net rage@free.bsdunix.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 15: 4:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from queasy.outpost.co.nz (outpost2.inspire.net.nz [203.96.157.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEB8414E1F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crh@outpost.co.nz) Received: (qmail 95704 invoked from network); 8 Jun 1999 22:04:48 -0000 Received: from officedonkey.outpost.co.nz (HELO officedonkey) (192.168.1.3) by outpost2.inspire.net.nz with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 22:04:48 -0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Craig Harding" Organization: Outpost Digital Media Ltd To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:04:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Kingston Card.. Supported? Reply-To: crh@outpost.co.nz References: <1D7D0A00F0E8D111A26600104B873E4C01783957@exchange.quests.com> from Scott Benjamin at "Jun 7, 1999 3:21:27 pm" In-reply-to: <19990608202756.2DC35153A5@hub.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: <19990608220453.DEB8414E1F@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Paul wrote: > > I'm going to be getting a ADSL modem and the NIC card that is > > included in the package is a Kingston KNE410, unfortunately I > > don't know if it is a PCI or ISA NIC. Does anyone have any idea > > if it should work with FreeBSD-Stable? > > Looking at the web page, there is no KNE410 model listed. There is a > KNE110 -- perhaps you (or somebody else) made a typo? The KNE110TX > is a PCI 10/100 card based on the PNIC chip (the chip says Kingston > on it but it's really a PNIC). It should work fine with FreeBSD > using the pn driver. And I can confirm that it indeed does work fine with FreeBSD with the pn driver. -- C. -- Craig Harding crh@outpost.co.nz "I don't know about God, I Outpost Digital Media Ltd crh@inspire.net.nz just think we're handmade" http://www.outpost.co.nz ICQ# 26701833 - Polly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 16: 1:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mu.egroups.com (mu.egroups.com [207.138.41.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 567BD14BD6 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from features@internetwire.com) Received: from [10.1.2.16] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 1999 00:01:30 -0000 X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7jk7ca$hu3v@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 23:01:30 -0000 From: features@internetwire.com Subject: The China Debate To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check This Out: This week is the 10th anniversary of the crackdown on dissidents in Tiananmen Square in Beijing. As relations between the United States and China are tested with allegations of spying and the accidental bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade by NATO airplanes, MSNBC.com produces an interactive guide explaining "The China Debate." MSNBC.com examines U.S./China disputes, China's leadership and military power, China's ongoing conflict with Taiwan, and the balance of nuclear power in the world. http://www.msnbc.com/modules/china_interactive_front.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 16:58:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F90C14EBD; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA00588; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:59:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199906082359.TAA00588@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Cyrix, AMD, Intel In-Reply-To: <19990608122155.1225.qmail@kemicol.rezidew.net> from "rezidew@rezidew.net" at "Jun 8, 99 12:21:55 pm" To: rezidew@rezidew.net Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, "Graphic," I do not have your answers, but this question is much more appropriate in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. I'm bouncing it over there. Hope someone can help you. rezidew@rezidew.net wrote, > I have just bought two (new?) machines. > > one is a AMD-K62 (350) > the other is a Cyrix MII (366) > > I have several questions... > > #1) how should I compile my kernel 'i[3456]86'? > > #2) when I boot up the AMD with freebsd it's > detected as a 586 running at some where around > 356.22MHz. Why only 586? > > #3) when I boot up the Cyrix with OpenBSD it's > detected as a 686 running at 251.36Mhz. > should I expect the same with FreeBSD? why > does this happen? is there something wrong > with the processor? > > #4) I have a Dual Processor Pentium-Pro-200. > If I compile in SMP for that machine, > on which of the three machines should I > expect to see the best performance? (all > things being equal) > > Thanks in advance > > > > -- > Graphic Rezidew > Graphic@rezidew.net -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 17: 0: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 360051582B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 16976 invoked by alias); 8 Jun 1999 23:59:49 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-chat@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 16950 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 1999 23:59:48 -0000 Received: from cdsl126.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.170.126) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 23:59:48 -0000 Message-ID: <375DAE73.25CBE01@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:59:47 -0700 From: Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Swingle Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) References: <19990608012617.A79618@dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The few pictures I have seen are good. But the download is ungodly slow from your guys' home dirs, even when I call pull from the main site at over 10KB/sec (uncached). I'd like to see the rest, but I can't sit there and wait 30 secs to 1 min for each image to download before going to the next. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 17: 7:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F62315868 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:07:08 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "FreeBSD Chat" Subject: RE: USENIX Chopper Pics :) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:07:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb20c$03817500$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <375DAE73.25CBE01@uswest.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How about a .tar.gz? DS > The few pictures I have seen are good. But the download is ungodly > slow from your guys' home dirs, even when I call pull from the main > site at over 10KB/sec (uncached). I'd like to see the rest, but I > can't sit there and wait 30 secs to 1 min for each image to download > before going to the next. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 18:50:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1454315916 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 85451 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jun 1999 01:50:02 -0000 Date: 8 Jun 1999 18:50:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:50:02 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: David Schwartz Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) Message-ID: <19990608185002.B85363@dub.net> References: <375DAE73.25CBE01@uswest.net> <000001beb20c$03817500$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <000001beb20c$03817500$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to>; from David Schwartz on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:07:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Done. It's in the same dir. :) Jordan will have to tar up his stuff for ya'll though. -Bill On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:07:08PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > How about a .tar.gz? > > DS > > > The few pictures I have seen are good. But the download is ungodly > > slow from your guys' home dirs, even when I call pull from the main > > site at over 10KB/sec (uncached). I'd like to see the rest, but I > > can't sit there and wait 30 secs to 1 min for each image to download > > before going to the next. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 8 23:26: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E3514EFD for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05122 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: pictures? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org whoever has pics from the dinner, does anyone mind telling me where we can get them? =) I'll put them up on free.bsdunix.net when I get them. -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking "And if my owners let me have some free time some day..... With all good intention I would probably run away..... clutching the short straw." -Marillion, "That Time of the Night", _Clutching_at_Straws_ ___________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 1:16: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F73914E61 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21320; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Eric Hodel Cc: "freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:25:40 PDT." <375D4404.129010ED@seattleu.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:16:19 -0700 Message-ID: <21316.928916179@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg > > Just how can people stand to live like that? That's the notorious sunset district of S.F., and I've always wondered the same thing. :) [Richmond district native] - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 1:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED53E14E61 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21345; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Bill Swingle Cc: David Schwartz , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:50:02 PDT." <19990608185002.B85363@dub.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <21341.928916320@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also done. allpics.tar.gz in the same directory. > Done. It's in the same dir. :) > > Jordan will have to tar up his stuff for ya'll though. > > -Bill > > On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:07:08PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > > > How about a .tar.gz? > > > > DS > > > > > The few pictures I have seen are good. But the download is ungodly > > > slow from your guys' home dirs, even when I call pull from the main > > > site at over 10KB/sec (uncached). I'd like to see the rest, but I > > > can't sit there and wait 30 secs to 1 min for each image to download > > > before going to the next. > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > -- > -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com > -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 1:55:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66CE14BD6 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca) Received: (from taob@localhost) by tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02992; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca To: FREEBSD-CHAT Subject: Usenix FreeBSD dinner photos Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have my photos up at http://www.risc.org/Images/Usenix99/ (the freebsd-*.jpg ones). Some didn't turn out (like the big group one), but there were a few people there with cameras, so I hope someone got a nice shot in. :) There are also some "play" photos I took around my hotel room... just ignore those. ;-) Any help in identifying people in the photos will be appreciated. E-mail me privately with names and a description of where they appear. Thanks. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 2:10:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE587159BE for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca) Received: (from taob@localhost) by tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03004; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@tor-dev1.nbc.netcom.ca To: Pat Lynch Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pictures? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Pat Lynch wrote: > > whoever has pics from the dinner, does anyone mind telling me where we can > get them? =) > > I'll put them up on free.bsdunix.net when I get them. -Pat See my recent post on this topic... I'm trying to put together a little photo diary of the night for Daemon News, so if anyone has photos they can contribute, let me know. I'll add fix up some of the photos and add descriptive captions to each one later. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 2:53: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from metis.host4u.net (metis.host4u.net [209.150.128.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A28714D25 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:53:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan.langille@dvl-software.com) Received: from wocker (210-55-152-36.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.152.36]) by metis.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA19703; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:52:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199906090952.EAA19703@metis.host4u.net> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:50:09 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: pictures? Reply-To: dan.langille@dvl-software.com Cc: Brian Tao References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Jun 99, at 5:09, Brian Tao wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Pat Lynch wrote: > > > > whoever has pics from the dinner, does anyone mind telling me where we > > can get them? =) > > > > I'll put them up on free.bsdunix.net when I get them. -Pat > > See my recent post on this topic... I'm trying to put together a > little photo diary of the night for Daemon News, so if anyone has Diary(TM)? Did someone mention Diary(tm)? -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 2:53:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7DF14D25 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990609095534.JXAJ12766.mta2-rme@wocker>; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:55:34 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Brian Tao Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:53:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: pictures? Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990609095534.JXAJ12766.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Jun 99, at 5:09, Brian Tao wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Pat Lynch wrote: > > > > whoever has pics from the dinner, does anyone mind telling me where we > > can get them? =) > > > > I'll put them up on free.bsdunix.net when I get them. -Pat > > See my recent post on this topic... I'm trying to put together a > little photo diary of the night for Daemon News, so if anyone has > photos they can contribute, let me know. I'll add fix up some of the > photos and add descriptive captions to each one later. -- Brian Tao > (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" Diary(TM)? Did someone mention Diary(tm)? [sorry, I just got this old box running tonight on 3.1 courtesy of a patch and I couldn't resist this...] -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 2:53:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB2C1543C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990609095601.LQJM12081.mta1-rme@wocker>; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:56:01 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Brian Tao Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:53:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: pictures? Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990609095601.LQJM12081.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Jun 99, at 5:09, Brian Tao wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Pat Lynch wrote: > > > > whoever has pics from the dinner, does anyone mind telling me where we > > can get them? =) > > > > I'll put them up on free.bsdunix.net when I get them. -Pat > > See my recent post on this topic... I'm trying to put together a > little photo diary of the night for Daemon News, so if anyone has > photos they can contribute, let me know. I'll add fix up some of the > photos and add descriptive captions to each one later. -- Brian Tao > (BT300, taob@risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" Diary(TM)? Did someone mention Diary(tm)? [sorry, I just got this old box running tonight on 3.1 courtesy of a patch and I couldn't resist this...] -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 8:19:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co (ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co [168.176.15.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C551507E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co) Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (unalmodem01.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.31]) by ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10607 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:14 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <375E859A.9466B70A@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:17:46 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: IBM buys Whistle Communications !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org IBM says it agreed to acquire Whistle Communications, a maker of a new class of computers that supply Internet services targeted at small businesses. June 9, 5:10 a.m. PT in Enterprise Computing http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,37558,00.html?st.ne.fd.tohhed.ni I wonder, does that mean FreeBSD will have better relationships with IBM, or less relationships with Whistle ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 9:57: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C6A152E8 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zen@buddhist.com) Received: from WhizKid (r15.bfm.org [208.18.213.111]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id MAA07325; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990609114002.0097d490@mail.bfm.org> X-Sender: stanislav@mail.bfm.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:40:02 -0500 To: Kevin McCarthy , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: Star Wars and Microsoft In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:37 08-06-1999 -0700, Kevin McCarthy wrote: > >I just realized that the "trade empire" on The Phantom Menace refers to >Microsoft. It makes perfect sense! > >Fear leads to Microsoft > Miscrosoft leads to anger > Anger leads to hate > >Bill Gates is the Grand Emporer, and Darth Maul is Windows 2000. Go back >and keep this in mind! I think it refers to any such empire, past, present and future. Especially considering that any such pearls of Jedi wisdom (in the entire series) simply paraphrase similar pearls said by Siddhartha Gautama 2500 years ago. This particular one derives from his dictum "Ignorance leads to desire, desire leads to suffering." Mutatis mutandis, you get "Ignorance leads to Windows, Windows leads to suffering." Adam --- Visit Count Gracula's Gallery: http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/gallery/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 10:25:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635BC14D23 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA24048 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:27:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:27:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Citrix :P Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great. Citrix has a Compaq Tru64 UN*X client out, but still no FreeBSD version. Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 11: 3:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030AB14F75 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00349; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:00:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:00:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor To: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM buys Whistle Communications !! In-Reply-To: <375E859A.9466B70A@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > IBM says it agreed to acquire Whistle Communications, a maker of a new > class of computers that supply Internet services targeted at small > businesses. > > June 9, 5:10 a.m. PT in Enterprise Computing > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,37558,00.html?st.ne.fd.tohhed.ni > > I wonder, does that mean FreeBSD will have better relationships with > IBM, or less relationships with Whistle ?? In an earlier thread, I think in -chat, it was noted that Netcraft had a list of what big "developers" were using. If you check IBM it's mostly AIX, a few OS/2, a few NT machines and 6 FreeBSD machines (all in Russia). There is only one web server (listed) in the IBM domain that is running Linux. Does that mean FreeBSD is 6x more popular than Linux inside IBM? :-) Brett *********************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu * brett@daemonnews.org * * http://www.daemonnews.org/ * *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 11:16:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C123414DDA for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08736; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: "Jasper O'Malley" Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Citrix :P In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org for now I use the linux one, it works better than on linux (ie. sound actually works) -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking "And if my owners let me have some free time some day..... With all good intention I would probably run away..... clutching the short straw." -Marillion, "That Time of the Night", _Clutching_at_Straws_ ___________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > > Great. > > Citrix has a Compaq Tru64 UN*X client out, but still no FreeBSD version. > > Cheers, > Mick > > The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com > Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral > Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 14:37:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co (ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co [168.176.15.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA75B14D5E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co) Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (unalmodem09.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.39]) by ohm.ingsala.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10884; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:38:20 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <375EDDB7.512F5C16@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:33:44 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Taylor Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM buys Whistle Communications !! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I didn't see this in -chat, however they have shown a lot more public signs of being linux-aware (with lots of interesting software). Whistle OTOH, has grown based on FreeBSD and has made constant contributions. I don't think this will be a Linux vs. BSD confrontation and I doubt that our well known hackers in Whistle communications will (or can) stop using FreeBSD, however I don't know enough about IBM to know if they will add to FreeBSD like Whistle has done. Only time will tell, I guess... Pedro. Brett Taylor wrote: > > Hi, > ... > > In an earlier thread, I think in -chat, it was noted that Netcraft had a > list of what big "developers" were using. If you check IBM it's mostly > AIX, a few OS/2, a few NT machines and 6 FreeBSD machines (all in Russia). > There is only one web server (listed) in the IBM domain that is running > Linux. Does that mean FreeBSD is 6x more popular than Linux inside IBM? > :-) > > Brett > *********************************************************** > Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu * > brett@daemonnews.org * > * > http://www.daemonnews.org/ * > *********************************************************** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 15: 7:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.physics.montana.edu (peloton.physics.montana.edu [153.90.192.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7E21512F for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.physics.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01758 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:05:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:04:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Taylor To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: seti@home problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just saw this on Slashdot - it appears Seti@home is having some severe problems. They've been sending out the same 100 or so blocks of data to _all_ the participants since May 24th or so. :-P http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20088.html Still nothing noted on the Seti@home page about the problem. Guess I'll stop my processes until they get this fixed. Brett *********************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu * brett@daemonnews.org * * http://www.daemonnews.org/ * *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 18:29:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45B814D9E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id KAA31582; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:59:29 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA09133; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:00:34 +0930 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:00:34 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Brett Taylor Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seti@home problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Brett Taylor wrote: > I just saw this on Slashdot - it appears Seti@home is having some severe > problems. They've been sending out the same 100 or so blocks of data to > _all_ the participants since May 24th or so. :-P > > http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20088.html > > Still nothing noted on the Seti@home page about the problem. Guess I'll > stop my processes until they get this fixed. I thought I saw something on their homepage the other day saying they were having problems keeping up with the demand for blocks, and they were hoping to get it addressed shortly. Kris > > Brett > *********************************************************** > Brett Taylor brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu * > brett@daemonnews.org * > * > http://www.daemonnews.org/ * > *********************************************************** > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 19:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from queasy.outpost.co.nz (outpost2.inspire.net.nz [203.96.157.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E19214D9E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crh@outpost.co.nz) Received: (qmail 97960 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 02:11:42 -0000 Received: from officedonkey.outpost.co.nz (HELO officedonkey) (192.168.1.3) by queasy.outpost.co.nz with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 02:11:42 -0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Craig Harding" Organization: Outpost Digital Media Ltd To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:11:22 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: seti@home problems Reply-To: crh@outpost.co.nz References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: <19990610021144.2E19214D9E@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Brett Taylor wrote: > > > I just saw this on Slashdot - it appears Seti@home is having some > > severe problems. They've been sending out the same 100 or so > > blocks of data to _all_ the participants since May 24th or so. > > :-P > > > > http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20088.html > > > > Still nothing noted on the Seti@home page about the problem. > > Guess I'll stop my processes until they get this fixed. > > I thought I saw something on their homepage the other day saying > they were having problems keeping up with the demand for blocks, and > they were hoping to get it addressed shortly. Well, their web page has been saying: Our "data pipeline" is not flowing at top speed yet, so we're sending out the same work units (mostly recorded Jan 7 and Jan 8) repeatedly. This will be fixed shortly. for about the last 5 days. -- C. -- Craig Harding crh@outpost.co.nz "I don't know about God, I Outpost Digital Media Ltd crh@inspire.net.nz just think we're handmade" http://www.outpost.co.nz ICQ# 26701833 - Polly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jun 9 21: 9:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from netcom16.netcom.com (netcom16.netcom.com [192.100.81.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D61514D6F for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@netcom.com) Received: (from das@localhost) by netcom16.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id VAA23789; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:09:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Das Devaraj Subject: Re: seti@home problems To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Brett Taylor wrote: > I just saw this on Slashdot - it appears Seti@home is having some severe > problems. They've been sending out the same 100 or so blocks of data to > _all_ the participants since May 24th or so. :-P May be they caught ET phoning home -- they are replaying the message over and over again hoping to figure out what it says :-) das To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 4: 9:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (netcom12.netcom.com [192.100.81.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751BF14DBE for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@netcom.com) Received: (from hasty@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id EAA00931 for freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Amancio Hasty Jr Message-Id: <199906101109.EAA00931@netcom12.netcom.com> To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gcj Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone managed to get gcj running? I did a couple of quick and dirty hacks over here and managed to get it to run.. /usr/local/jdk1.1.7/bin/java Sieve Running Sieve benchmark. This will take about 10 seconds. 192 iterations in 10.006 seconds Sieve score = 19 {hasty} ./Sieve Running Sieve benchmark. This will take about 10 seconds. 10543 iterations in 10.0 seconds Sieve score = 1054 The last one run was compiled with gcj: gcj -O2 -o Sieve -v Sieve.java --main=Sieve Cheers Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 4:19:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5406A14F1B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:22:23 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:19:34 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: Wuff, Wuff!! appear, then disappear. GRIN. # uname -a FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 3 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get this from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 4:35:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.tmbg.net (dingo.tmbg.net [203.46.1.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC4C14F1B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stl@dingo.tmbg.net) Received: (from stl@localhost) by dingo.tmbg.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA14092; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:37:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from stl) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:37:05 +1000 From: Steven Lawrance To: Dan Langille Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Message-ID: <19990610213705.A14021@enjoy-unix.org> References: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get this > from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. Were you in a screen session? Screen does that (depending on options..) instead of beeping. -- Steven Lawrance PGP Key 2048/0x9F030653 If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 4:36:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330E014F1B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990610113904.DSSW2926.mta2-rme@wocker>; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:39:04 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Steven Lawrance Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:36:32 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990610213705.A14021@enjoy-unix.org> References: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990610113904.DSSW2926.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10 Jun 99, at 21:37, Steven Lawrance wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get > > this from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. > > Were you in a screen session? Screen does that (depending on options..) > instead of beeping. Nope. And FWIW, you're the second to suggest that. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 5:29:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECB514CA1 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:28:17 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id MKM83LQT; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:20:25 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10s41d-000DP9-00; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:33:41 +0100 To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: "Dan Langille"'s message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:35:18 +1200" <19990610113807.ELTX93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:33:41 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10 June 1999, "Dan Langille" proclaimed: > On 10 Jun 99, at 12:35, Dom Mitchell wrote: > > On 10 June 1999, "Dan Langille" proclaimed: > > > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > > > > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > > > > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > > > > > # uname -a > > > FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 3 > > > 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 > > > root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 > > > > > > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get > > > this from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. > > > > Are you sure that you weren't inside screen(1)? If you were (and you > > dislike that message), then try doing "^A:nethack off". > > Nope. No screen involved. I was su'd to root at the time. su'ing to root makes no difference. If there was a screen *anywhere* in between your keyboard and that session, screen would still have interpreted the ^G and gone "Wuff, Wuff!!". I'm being a bit OTT about this, because I can really think about no other way in which it could have happened... FWIW, let's try a grep on /usr/src: % find /usr/src -type f | xargs egrep "Wuff, Wuff" % Nowt. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 12:36: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shadows.aeon.net (shadows.aeon.net [195.197.32.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A7F14F46 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdchat@shadows.aeon.net) Received: (from bsdchat@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.9.3/8.8.3) id WAA17110 for chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:36:44 +0300 (EEST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199906101936.WAA17110@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: uptime... To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:36:44 +0300 (EEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well... everyone always says one should NOT use current on production. =) fire% uptime 6:24AM up 541 days, 1:33, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 fire% uname -a FreeBSD fire.somewhere.pum 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Dec 16 21:37:18 EET 1997 root@fire.somewhere.pum:/usr/src/sys/compile/NAT i386 fire% machine was installed that day, still running until something happens... mickey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 12:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC83814E2B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:45:15 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "mika ruohotie" , Subject: RE: uptime... Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:45:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000901beb379$c2d92ce0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <199906101936.WAA17110@shadows.aeon.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heck, DOS will stay up 541 days if it's not doing anything. Windows 98 won't though. DS > fire% uptime > 6:24AM up 541 days, 1:33, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > fire% uname -a > FreeBSD fire.somewhere.pum 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: > Tue Dec 16 21:37:18 EET 1997 > root@fire.somewhere.pum:/usr/src/sys/compile/NAT i386 > fire% > > machine was installed that day, still running until something happens... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 12:49:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shadows.aeon.net (shadows.aeon.net [195.197.32.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B81C150EB for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdchat@shadows.aeon.net) Received: (from bsdchat@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.9.3/8.8.3) id WAA17483; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:49:58 +0300 (EEST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199906101949.WAA17483@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: uptime... In-Reply-To: <000901beb379$c2d92ce0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> from David Schwartz at "Jun 10, 1999 12:45:15 pm" To: davids@webmaster.com (David Schwartz) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:49:58 +0300 (EEST) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Heck, DOS will stay up 541 days if it's not doing anything. Windows 98 > won't though. > > fire% uptime > > 6:24AM up 541 days, 1:33, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ machine might not do much during those early hours of the day, since it is mainly a firewall. yeah, i admit it does much less than normal machines most of the time, but not always. mickey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 13:51:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from chopin.seattleu.edu (chopin.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBC014C24 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu ([172.17.41.90]) by chopin.seattleu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08200; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37602541.3FF716C5@seattleu.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:51:13 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mika ruohotie Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uptime... References: <199906101936.WAA17110@shadows.aeon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mika ruohotie wrote: > > well... > > everyone always says one should NOT use current on production. > > =) > > fire% uptime > 6:24AM up 541 days, 1:33, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Is it in the uptime list? http://uptime.hexon.cx -- Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu "If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything." -- A. L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 14:43:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from apotheosis.za.org (apotheosis.za.org [137.158.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10451506D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lonewolf@apotheosis.za.org) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:43:20 +0200 From: Lonewolf To: Dan Langille Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Message-ID: <19990610234320.A7909@apotheosis.za.org> References: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker>; from "Dan Langille" on Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is screen(1)'s visual bell message :) look for "vbell_msg" in screen's man page. -- lonewolf@apotheosis.za.org On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:19:34PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 3 > 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 > root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 > > > > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get this > from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. > -- > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited > The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ > NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ > The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 17:17: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bytor.rush.net (bytor.rush.net [209.45.245.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FED15497 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@bsdunix.net) Received: from localhost (lynch@localhost) by bytor.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18317; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:16:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch X-Sender: lynch@bytor.rush.net To: Dan Langille Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" In-Reply-To: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org running screen are we? ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net lynch@bsdunix.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 3 > 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 > root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 > > > > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get this > from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. > -- > Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited > The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ > NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ > The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 17:27:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from folly.lemis.com (static221.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3963F154AA for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@folly.lemis.com) Received: (grog@localhost) by folly.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.6.12) id RAA01122; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990610171659.42965@folly.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:16:59 -0700 From: Greg Lehey To: Eric Hodel Cc: "freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) References: <19990608012617.A79618@dub.net> <375D4404.129010ED@seattleu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <375D4404.129010ED@seattleu.edu>; from Eric Hodel on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 09:25:40AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 8 June 1999 at 9:25:40 -0700, Eric Hodel wrote: > Bill Swingle wrote: >> >> Today Jordan and I had the pleasure of flying in a chopper flown by >> Brian McGovern. The trip went from Salinas to San Francisco and back in >> just over two hours. >> >> My low quality/high quantity pics are at: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ (chopper*) >> >> Jordan took fewer but better pictures: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00053.jpg > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg Not any more. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 10 17:31:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65E515493 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA91765; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:30:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:30:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: "Stein B. Sylvarnes" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: P5 vs Celeron vs PII In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990611012822.0079d930@mail.geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Moved to -chat... This is now way off-topic. On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Stein B. Sylvarnes wrote: > At 18:17 10.06.99 -0500, Chris Dillon wrote: > >On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Dennis wrote: > > > >> > >> In a nutshell, does anyone have a handle on the relative preformance of > >> these are? > >> > >> 233Mhz P5 vs 233Mhz Celeron > >Last time I looked, the price difference was enough that the Celeron > >gives you more bang for the buck. > > > The AMD K6-3 has given best preformance/price, at least here in > Norway. The lead has been signifficant, but most vendors have > built their PCs with (W)Intel CPUs. For the home-builder/upgrader, > the choice has been simple, though. Tom Pabst of Tom's Hardware Guide (http://www.tomshardware.com) seems to do some pretty good benchmarks, generally using real-world applications (i.e. for benchmarking gaming performace, he actually uses several different popular games, not some meaningless "3D WinBench" scoring). From what I have seen of the benchmarks on Tom's site, the K6-2/3 is not all that great, in any situation. In my real-world experience, it seems to do just fine for everyday use on our Win95 boxen, but so do the PII and Celeron systems. I don't get much time to play a lot of games on our systems though. :-) In another RealWorld(TM) experience of mine, a K6-2 300 system I have (well, not at the moment) next to me does far fewer keys/sec for the RC5DES challenge than our PII-300 systems. According to the Distributed.Net web site, the RC5DES algorithms don't even use floating-point calculations, so the lower AMD FPU performance wouldn't even be a factor here. If anything I would have thought the AMD processors would have done better because they do integer calculations so well, but I guess not in this case. > But lately Intel has dropped their prices, and if I was to buy a new CPU > now, I would have to choose between PIII and K6-3 (They're pretty much > equally fast, AMD a bit faster in Q2 in windoze) Hmm... According to Tom's benchmarks, the AMD K6-3 450 did worse (almost 4 FPS) than a Celeron 400 in Quake 2 with a Riva TNT2 based card (TNT2 drivers are NOT 3DNow! optimized). In Quake2 using a VooDoo3 3500 card (whose drivers ARE 3DNow! optimized), the K6-3 450 fared much, much better than it did with the TNT2, but then only a couple of FPS higher than a Celeron 400. Now, if a Celeron or PII 400 which doesn't have anything but plain MMX can almost match a K6-3 450 with 3DNow! optimized software, imagine what a PIII could do with SSE-optimized software. Since the Celeron 400 is exactly half the cost of a K6-3 450 (according to Pricewatch, I just checked), I couldn't understand anyone buying an AMD processor for gaming or other multimedia stuff, and especially not FPU-intensive stuff. All this might change when the AMD K7 comes out, though. :-) Let's just hope the K7 lives up to what everybody has been hoping it will be. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 1:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E1914E40 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA73860; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Greg Lehey Cc: Eric Hodel , "freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:16:59 PDT." <19990610171659.42965@folly.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:18:48 -0700 Message-ID: <73856.929089128@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They're lower case. > On Tuesday, 8 June 1999 at 9:25:40 -0700, Eric Hodel wrote: > > Bill Swingle wrote: > >> > >> Today Jordan and I had the pleasure of flying in a chopper flown by > >> Brian McGovern. The trip went from Salinas to San Francisco and back in > >> just over two hours. > >> > >> My low quality/high quantity pics are at: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/~unfurl/usenix/ (chopper*) > >> > >> Jordan took fewer but better pictures: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00053.jpg > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg > > Not any more. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 1:39:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.freebsddiary.cx (210-55-152-36.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.152.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2683614E05 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.cx) Received: from wocker (wocker.freebsddiary.cx [192.168.0.99]) by ns.freebsddiary.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA41318; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:39:23 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199906110839.UAA41318@ns.freebsddiary.cx> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Pat Lynch Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:39:21 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.cx Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990610112223.EKRW93999.mta1-rme@wocker> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not for that session. On 10 Jun 99, at 20:16, Pat Lynch wrote: > running screen are we? > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net > lynch@bsdunix.net > Systems Administrator Rush Networking > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > > > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 3 > > 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 > > root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 > > > > > > > > But only from one telnet session. I have no idea why I couldn't get > > this from another session. Nor would it work under 2.2.8. -- Dan > > Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - > > http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - > > http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - > > http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 2:44:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.freebsddiary.cx (210-55-152-36.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.152.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE6415004 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:44:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@freebsddiary.cx) Received: from wocker (wocker.freebsddiary.cx [192.168.0.99]) by ns.freebsddiary.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA41431 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:44:22 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199906110944.VAA41431@ns.freebsddiary.cx> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:44:21 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.cx In-reply-to: <199906110839.UAA41318@ns.freebsddiary.cx> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wrong. I was running screen. But at a much deeper level than I ever know. My apologies for my bungling. And my thanks to those that helped. On 11 Jun 99, at 20:39, Dan Langille wrote: > Not for that session. > > On 10 Jun 99, at 20:16, Pat Lynch wrote: > > > running screen are we? > > > > On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > When running ftp last night, I pressed down arrow. And I saw: > > > > > > Wuff, Wuff!! > > > > > > appear, then disappear. GRIN. > > > > > > # uname -a > > > FreeBSD ns.freebsddiary.cx 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Wed Mar > > > 3 21:11:33 NZDT 1999 > > > root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPFILTER3 i386 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 9:52:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85D015277 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA65196; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:52:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Dom Mitchell Cc: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp client goes "Wuff, Wuff!!" References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 11 Jun 1999 18:52:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: Dom Mitchell's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:33:41 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dom Mitchell writes: > FWIW, let's try a grep on /usr/src: > % find /usr/src -type f | xargs egrep "Wuff, Wuff" > % Let's not, and say we did :) Glimpse is your friend. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 13:10: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C180014CB0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22956; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:09:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd022890; Fri Jun 11 13:09:52 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11376; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:09:40 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199906112009.NAA11376@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: USENIX Chopper Pics :) To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:09:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hodeleri@seattleu.edu, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990610171659.42965@folly.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Jun 10, 99 05:16:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Jordan took fewer but better pictures: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/ > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00053.jpg > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/PIC00052.jpg > > Not any more. He got the case wrong, e.g.: http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/pic00053.jpg http://www.freebsd.org/~jkh/helicopter/pic00052.jpg (first variation I tried hit both on the nose). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 11 23: 1:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8C114FA4 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990612060441.TFHS93999.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:04:41 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:01:49 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: imrss.org == Internet Mail Relay Services Survey Project Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990612060441.TFHS93999.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone been scanned by this project lately? I recently found this in my logs: Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=[199.0.22.2], reject=550 ... Relaying denied Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: lost input channel from [199.0.22.2] Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: from=, size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[199.0.22.2] So I went looking and found this at http://www.imrss.org/ The Internet Mail Relay Services Survey Project is a self-funded all-volunteer project whose intent is to collect information regarding so-called Open E-mail Relay Servers on the Internet. And not surprisingly this also say this: MRSS considers the process of passing a single small message through a publically available E-mail server as being neither intuitively nor obviously offensive to the actual owner of that E-mail server, nor fundamentally different from the process of cataloging a web site (as currently performed on a daily basis by any number of popular web search engines). -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jun 12 1:14:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5514D88 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:14:09 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: , Subject: RE: imrss.org == Internet Mail Relay Services Survey Project Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:14:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb4ab$8c0e0950$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990612060441.TFHS93999.mta1-rme@wocker> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Probing someone else's machine for a vulnerability or security flaw without their consent is a definite no-no. This is nothing at all like spidering a web site. DS > Anyone been scanned by this project lately? I recently found this in my > logs: > > Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: ruleset=check_rcpt, > arg1=, relay=[199.0.22.2], reject=550 > ... Relaying denied > Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: lost input channel from > [199.0.22.2] > Jun 12 16:21:21 ns sendmail[45607]: QAA45607: from=, > size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, relay=[199.0.22.2] > > So I went looking and found this at http://www.imrss.org/ > > The Internet Mail Relay Services Survey Project is a self-funded > all-volunteer project whose intent is to collect information > regarding so-called Open E-mail Relay Servers on the Internet. > > And not surprisingly this also say this: > > MRSS considers the process of passing a single small message through a > publically available E-mail server as being neither intuitively nor > obviously offensive to the actual owner of that E-mail > server, nor fundamentally different from the process of cataloging a web > site (as currently performed on a daily basis by any number of popular > web search engines). 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