From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 3:21: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3012E14F1F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 03:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS1-p88.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.88]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA22595 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:21:00 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: FreeBSD Current Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:03:03 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99060613035400.59582@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG made cvsup&world last night, when i config the GENERIC kernel : options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. .====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 4:10:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920C8150E1; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 04:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA63242; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 07:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 07:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: Jean-Marc Zucconi , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mmap problem in -current? In-Reply-To: <86emjpdheb.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Jun 1999, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> I just noticed (kernel&world from friday) that locate always cores > >> dump: > >> $ locate xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Segmentation fault (core dumped) > >> The problem disappears if I recompile locate without the -DMMAP > >> option. > > Running on the very latest current, it does not work for me. > > By 'it', do you mean that locate does not work, that the failure test > does not work (ie, locate is fine for you), or that the workaround > does not work? Sorry for being ambiguous. By 'it' I meant the test that you showed us. I cannot reproduce it. Have you tried remaking your locate database first? > > Thanks, > joelh > > -- > Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org > Fourth law of programming: > Anything that can go wrong wi > sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___)___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 7: 5:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1153150DB for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 07:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA15530 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:58:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA25205 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:04:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA46788 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:05:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:05:13 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: panic: bus_dmamem_free: Invalid map freed - with recent current Message-ID: <19990606160512.A46721@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Console: serial port BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS drive D: is disk2 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 636/65472kB (ticso@cicely5.cicely.de, Sun Jun 6 11:28:23 CEST 1999) Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel text=0x15111d data=0x1b70c+0x240e0 syms=[0x4+0x1eec0+0x4+0x2205a] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Jun 6 14:50:48 CEST 1999 root@cicely5.cicely.de:/var/d3/src-1999-06-06/src/sys/compile/CICELY5 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 233029415 Hz CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.03-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x562 Stepping=2 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) sio0: system console avail memory = 126808064 (123836K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02d4000. ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 chip0: at device 0.0 on pci0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 chip1: at device 7.1 on pci0 pcib1: at device 9.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: irq 5 at device 4.0 on pci1 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 RAID functionality unsupported device_probe_and_attach: ahc1 attach returned 6 ahc2: irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci1 ahc2: aic7870 Single Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc3: irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci1 ahc3: aic7870 Single Channel C, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs pcib2: at device 10.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 ahc4: irq 12 at device 4.0 on pci2 ahc4: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc5: irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci2 ahc5: aic7880 Single Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs de0: irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: Cogent 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de0: address 00:00:92:9b:20:e7 pcib3: at device 12.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 ahc6: irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci3 ahc6: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc7: irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci3 RAID functionality unsupported device_probe_and_attach: ahc7 attach returned 6 ahc8: irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci3 panic: bus_dmamem_free: Invalid map freed Debugger("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x37: movl $0,in_Debugger db> trace Debugger(c02372db) at Debugger+0x37 panic(c0246f60,c02e6db0,c01380b7,0,0) at panic+0x74 bus_dmamem_free(0,0,0,c09dde00,380) at bus_dmamem_free+0x19 ahcfiniscbdata(c09dde00) at ahcfiniscbdata+0x87 ahc_free(c09dde00,9,0,c09d1600,c02e6e04) at ahc_free+0xd ahc_pci_attach(c09d1500,c09d1500,c02e6e30,c015e5ab,c09d1500) at ahc_pci_attach+0x641 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09d1500,c09d1500,0,c09c5ac0,c02e6e40) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09d1500) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b bus_generic_attach(c09d1600,c09d1600,c02e6e68,c015e5ab,c09d1600) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09d1600,c09d1600,c09c4904,c09c5cc0,c02e6e78) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09d1600) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b bus_generic_attach(c09c5ac0,c09c5ac0,c02419bd,3,0) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 pcib_attach(c09c5ac0,c09c5ac0,c02e6ec4,c015e5ab,c09c5ac0) at pcib_attach+0x44 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09c5ac0,c09c5ac0,0,c09c5dc0,c02e6ed4) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09c5ac0) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b bus_generic_attach(c09c5cc0,c09c5cc0,c02e6efc,c015e5ab,c09c5cc0) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09c5cc0,c09c5cc0,0,c09c3000,c02e6f0c) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09c5cc0) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b bus_generic_attach(c09c5dc0,c09c5dc0,c02e6f34,c015e5ab,c09c5dc0) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09c5dc0,c09c5dc0,0,c07331c0,c02e6f44) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09c5dc0) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b bus_generic_attach(c09c3000,c09c3000,c02e6f6c,c015e5ab,c09c3000) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 DEVICE_ATTACH(c09c3000,c09c3000,c026bc9c,2eb000,c02e6f7c) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x33 device_probe_and_attach(c09c3000) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4b root_bus_configure(c07331c0,c0246a3f,0,0) at root_bus_configure+0x16 configure(0) at configure+0x39 mi_startup(c02e6fb4,0,2eb000,c0162435,c0403000) at mi_startup+0x92 begin() at begin+0x4b I used the following config: machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" #cpu "I686_CPU" ident "CICELY5" maxusers 32 #options "MAXMEM=(64*1024)" options "NO_F00F_HACK" #options PQ_LARGECACHE # color for 512k/16k cache options CAM_MAX_HIGHPOWER=1 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MFS #Memory File System options NFS #Network Filesystem #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root device options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options MROUTING # Multicast routing options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor #options SOFTUPDATES options "ICMP_BANDLIM" options CODA #CODA filesystem. pseudo-device vcoda 4 #coda minicache <-> venus comm. options DDB #options DDB_UNATTENDED options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to #DDB, if available. controller isa0 #controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # Unless you know very well what you're doing, leave ft0 at drive 2, or # remove the line entirely if you don't need it. Trying to configure # it on another unit might cause surprises, see PR kern/7176. #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency #controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" irq 15 #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 # ATAPI devices on wdc? device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) #device wst0 #IDE Tape (e.g. Travan) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller amd0 #controller ahb0 #options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO controller ahc0 controller ahc1 controller ahc2 controller ahc3 controller ahc4 controller ahc5 controller ahc6 controller ahc7 controller ahc8 controller ahc9 #controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. The options # line following dpt0 here is also currently a *required* option for it. # controller dpt0 # options DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 at ahc0 # Single bus device controller scbus1 at ahc2 # Single bus device controller scbus2 at ahc3 # Single bus device controller scbus3 at ahc4 # Single bus device controller scbus4 at ahc5 # Single bus device controller scbus5 at ahc6 # Single bus device controller scbus6 at ahc8 # Single bus device controller scbus7 at ahc9 # Single bus device disk da0 at scbus0 target 2 unit 0 disk da1 at scbus1 target 1 unit 0 disk da2 at scbus1 target 2 unit 0 disk da3 at scbus1 target 3 unit 0 disk da4 at scbus2 target 1 unit 0 disk da5 at scbus2 target 2 unit 0 disk da6 at scbus2 target 3 unit 0 disk da7 at scbus4 target 2 unit 0 disk da8 at scbus4 target 3 unit 0 disk da9 at scbus4 target 4 unit 0 #disk da10 at scbus5 target 2 unit 0 #disk da11 at scbus5 target 3 unit 0 #disk da12 at scbus5 target 4 unit 0 disk da13 at scbus3 target 4 unit 0 disk da14 at scbus3 target 0 unit 0 disk da15 at scbus3 target 3 unit 0 disk da16 at scbus3 target 5 unit 0 disk da17 at scbus3 target 6 unit 0 disk da18 at scbus4 target 0 unit 0 disk da19 at scbus4 target 1 unit 0 disk da20 at scbus4 target 5 unit 0 disk da21 at scbus4 target 6 unit 0 disk da22 at scbus5 target 1 unit 0 disk da23 at scbus3 target 1 unit 0 disk da24 at scbus3 target 2 unit 0 disk da25 at scbus5 target 6 unit 0 disk da26 at scbus6 target 1 unit 0 disk da27 at scbus6 target 2 unit 0 tape sa0 at scbus0 target 1 unit 0 tape sa1 at scbus0 target 6 unit 0 tape sa2 at scbus2 target 0 unit 0 tape sa3 at scbus5 target 0 unit 0 tape sa4 at scbus6 target 3 unit 0 device cd0 at scbus0 target 3 unit 0 device cd1 at scbus0 target 4 unit 0 device cd2 at scbus5 target 2 unit 0 device cd3 at scbus5 target 3 unit 0 device cd4 at scbus5 target 4 unit 0 device cd5 at scbus5 target 5 unit 0 device cd6 at scbus6 target 4 unit 0 device ch0 at scbus3 target 0 unit 0 device pt0 at scbus? # SCSI processor type #device sa0 device pass0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at isa? irq 1 device psm0 at isa? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts irq 1 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # #device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr #device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr ##device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr #device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 #device fxp0 #device tl0 #device tx0 #device vx0 #device xl0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? vector exintr #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector feintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector csintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 #pseudo-device ppp 1 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device pty 64 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device ccd 4 #Concatenated disk driver pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG I removed the FDC_YE and FDC_DEBUG from options.i386 to get config work. It complained that they where already anywhere else. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 10: 8:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pozo.com (pozo.com [216.101.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDC714F39 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 10:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mantar@pacbell.net) Received: from dual (dual.pozo.com [216.101.162.51]) by pozo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00461 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 10:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mantar@pacbell.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990606100416.00a33870@216.101.162.50> X-Sender: null@216.101.162.50 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 10:08:23 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org From: Manfred Antar Subject: options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG New kernel won't build on current. when I do a config I get : options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. If i comment out the following from options.i386 everything builds. #FDC_DEBUG opt_fdc.h #FDC_YE opt_fdc.h Manfred ===================== || mantar@pacbell.net || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ===================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 10:27:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from distortion.dk (distortion.dk [195.249.147.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0744B155E4 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npp@swamp.dk) Received: from swamp.dk (fw.micon.dk [195.249.147.131]) by distortion.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21189 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:02:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from npp@swamp.dk) Message-ID: <375ACBEF.B4938B11@swamp.dk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:28:47 +0000 From: Nicolai Petri Organization: www.swamp.dk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: How do i implement an Application firewall (like an transparent ftp-proxy) (smtp verifier etc.) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subject says it all.. Almost.. Is it natd or is it the kernel ?? Maybe a plug-in system for natd could do it ? --- Nicolai Petri npp@swamp.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 12: 9: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D37514BD2 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.55.109]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4844 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:08:56 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23400 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:08:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:08:56 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: FreeBSD Current Subject: weird crash Message-ID: <19990606210856.D16752@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, just today I got this error, never had it before in all those months I have been tracking CURRENT now. Jun 6 17:15:26 daemon /kernel: sio0: 65 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 65) Jun 6 17:15:28 daemon /kernel: sio0: 131 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 196) Jun 6 17:15:29 daemon /kernel: sio0: 38 more tty-level buffer overflows (total 234) until I interrupted it with CTRL-ALT-ESC to drop into DDB. This is some info I got from DDB: [ please bear with me if I didn't get all I need, but it's the first `crash' I intercepted and I think I got all the relevant data, comments appreciated though ] db>trace Debugger(0c255518) at Debugger+0x37 scgetc(c0294020,2,124bca,c0294020,850ff2c) at scgetc+ox5ec sckdbevent(c0294020,0,0,124bca,850ff2c) at sckbdevent+0x1c4 atkbd_intr(c0294020,0,bfbfd4bc,c0211c92,c06773f0) at atkbd_intr+ox1f atkbd_isa_intr(c06773f0,0,2f,2f,2f) at atkbd_isa_intr+0x1b Xresume1() at Xresume+0x2b --- interrupt, eip=0x28078509, esp=0xc5b6dfe0, ebp=0xbfbfd4bc --- I also have results from show registers, print, show page if those are deemed interesting. What I was able to glance from ps what that the 0xc5b6dfe0 range lay in an xterm memory range... I am not 100% sure about this though. some relevant system information: [asmodai@daemon] (81) $ uname -a FreeBSD daemon.ninth-circle.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Thu Jun 3 16:59:10 CEST 1999 asmodai@daemon.ninth-circle.org:/work/FreeBSD/src/sys/compile/DAEMON i386 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0047 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: vga0: on isa0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: fb0: port:0x3b0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0x0 size:0k Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: VGA parameters upon power-up Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sc0: on isa0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sc0: fb0 kbd0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio0: type 16550A Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio1: irq maps: 0x41 0x49 0x41 0x41 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 Jun 2 10:57:38 daemon /kernel: sio1: type 16550A The system itself is a simple DFI-based motherboard with Intel Pentium 200 MMX and 96 MB RAM. The keyboard is not one of them ps/2's, but a the older type (I don't think that DIN is the correct name though). the device on sio0 is my serial MouseMan: controller isa0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? If any more information is required, please tell me and I will see if I can dig it up. 'gards, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 12:20:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A34150F5 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id UAA10247 for freebsd.org!current; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:20:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:13:10 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:13:08 +0000 To: current@freebsd.org From: Bob Bishop Subject: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, >-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 >>>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 >-------------------------------------------------------------- Given that this is just cosmetic sugar (and IMHO totally unnecessary), getting it right would have been nice... -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 12:23: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2F3150F5 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA01798; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:22:58 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Garrett Wollman , Brian Feldman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? Message-ID: <19990606122258.B1505@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <199906052344.TAA19843@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060057.UAA20103@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060626.XAA17701@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906060626.XAA17701@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 11:26:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 11:26:28PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > If the poor sod hasn't touched his xterm for 8 days, he's either dead > or he doesn't care if it goes away. Thanks for your concern. Matt, poor sod. -- Matthew Hunt * UNIX is a lever for the http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * intellect. -J.R. Mashey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 12:48:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC4214D0A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10978; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Bob Bishop Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:13:08 -0000." Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:49:56 -0700 Message-ID: <10975.928698596@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't get you. 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If you change your date in the middle then it can't help you, nor can it help you if the world build completely fails in the middle or something. :) - Jordan > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 > >>>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > Given that this is just cosmetic sugar (and IMHO totally unnecessary), > getting it right would have been nice... > > > -- > Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 > rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 12:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from laser.1sourcesolutions.com (1sourcesolutions.com [209.63.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFAA14D5B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ecotechusa@yahoo.com) Received: from alserrenu (1SSPRES [195.105.15.8]) by laser.1sourcesolutions.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id LGM2883F; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:45:09 -0700 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Ecotech Technologies, L.L.C." 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Sincerely Bimal Das To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 13:26:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921814D55 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA26512; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Bob Bishop , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) In-Reply-To: <10975.928698596@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fixed.. I originally used STARTTIME!=date and someone confused me into using STARTTIME?=`date` but I forgot that they get evaluated at different times. On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I don't get you. We did get it right and it works fine. If you > change your date in the middle then it can't help you, nor can it > help you if the world build completely fails in the middle or > something. :) > > - Jordan > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 > > >>>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Given that this is just cosmetic sugar (and IMHO totally unnecessary), > > getting it right would have been nice... > > > > > > -- > > Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 > > rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 13:28: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2919414BF5 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA26552; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:28:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Bob Bishop Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fixeed (My braino) On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Bob Bishop wrote: > Hi, > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 > >>>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > Given that this is just cosmetic sugar (and IMHO totally unnecessary), > getting it right would have been nice... it's there because it removes a whole step in finding out how long the compile took. (for example if you forget to redirect your output to a log file (like I did yesterday :-)) > > > -- > Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 > rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 13:38:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A97F14BF5 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id NAA23021; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Sun, 06 Jun 1999 13:32:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Nicolai Petri Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do i implement an Application firewall (like an transparent ftp-proxy) (smtp verifier etc.) In-Reply-To: <375ACBEF.B4938B11@swamp.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: npp@swamp.dk,current@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lookup natd on the freebsd page. On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Nicolai Petri wrote: > Subject says it all.. Almost.. > Is it natd or is it the kernel ?? > Maybe a plug-in system for natd could do it ? > > > --- > Nicolai Petri > npp@swamp.dk > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 13:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D57014C1F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA11742; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:50:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:37:29 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <10975.928698596@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:13:08 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:37:27 +0000 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:49 pm -0700 6/6/99, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >I don't get you. We did get it right and it works fine. If you >change your date in the middle then it can't help you, nor can it >help you if the world build completely fails in the middle or >something. :) No, really, only the subject line is in jest: bludnok# grep 'elf make world' ,makelog >>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 16:26:52 BST 1999 >>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 bludnok# Or alternatively, the makefile: STARTTIME?= `LC_TIME=C date` thing: @echo "started on ${STARTTIME}" sleep 10 @echo "started on ${STARTTIME}" @echo "completed on `LC_TIME=C date`" produces the following: started on Sun Jun 6 21:30:54 BST 1999 sleep 10 started on Sun Jun 6 21:31:04 BST 1999 completed on Sun Jun 6 21:31:04 BST 1999 Make isn't doing what you expected (here at least). Last cvsupd at Sun Jun 6 04:02:36 BST 1999. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 13:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DE414C1F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11473; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Bob Bishop Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:37:27 -0000." Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 13:57:03 -0700 Message-ID: <11469.928702623@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, I wasn't aware of the fact that Julian had broken this since my last make world. :) - Jordan > At 12:49 pm -0700 6/6/99, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >I don't get you. We did get it right and it works fine. If you > >change your date in the middle then it can't help you, nor can it > >help you if the world build completely fails in the middle or > >something. :) > > No, really, only the subject line is in jest: > > bludnok# grep 'elf make world' ,makelog > >>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 16:26:52 BST 1999 > >>> elf make world started on Sun Jun 6 19:55:14 BST 1999 > >>> elf make world completed on Sun Jun 6 19:55:15 BST 1999 > bludnok# > > Or alternatively, the makefile: > > STARTTIME?= `LC_TIME=C date` > > thing: > @echo "started on ${STARTTIME}" > sleep 10 > @echo "started on ${STARTTIME}" > @echo "completed on `LC_TIME=C date`" > > produces the following: > > started on Sun Jun 6 21:30:54 BST 1999 > sleep 10 > started on Sun Jun 6 21:31:04 BST 1999 > completed on Sun Jun 6 21:31:04 BST 1999 > > Make isn't doing what you expected (here at least). > Last cvsupd at Sun Jun 6 04:02:36 BST 1999. > > > -- > Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 > rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 14:11: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (pm3-26.ppp.wenet.net [206.15.85.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9410E152F3 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26221 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Zepeda To: current Subject: config is broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#config -g DUSTER options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#grep FDC_DEBUG * LINT:# FDC_DEBUG enables floppy debugging. Since the debug output is huge, you LINT:options FDC_DEBUG options.i386:FDC_DEBUG opt_fdc.h redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf# Hmm. It's been this way for a while, and I can't see anything obvious that would cause this (and yes, I rebuilt config). - alex I thought felt your touch In my car, on my clutch But I guess it's just someone who felt a lot like I remember you. - Translator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 14:55: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dead-end.net (dead-end.net [216.15.131.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE5314FD6 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rock@dead-end.net) Received: from dead-end.net (p3E9C36D1.dip.t-online.de [62.156.54.209]) by dead-end.net (8.9.3/DEAD-END/1999022000) with ESMTP id XAA07136; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:54:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rock@dead-end.net) Message-ID: <375AEB8E.73F4944A@dead-end.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:43:42 +0200 From: "D. Rock" Organization: ... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [de] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zepeda Cc: current Subject: Re: config is broken? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This option is in /sys/conf/options and /sys/i386/conf/options.i386 According to the cvs log, the floppy driver has moved out of the i386 architecture directory. It seems the options.i386 has been forgotten (options.pc98 has been corrected). Daniel Alex Zepeda schrieb: > > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#config -g DUSTER > options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#grep FDC_DEBUG * > LINT:# FDC_DEBUG enables floppy debugging. Since the debug output is > huge, you > LINT:options FDC_DEBUG > options.i386:FDC_DEBUG opt_fdc.h > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 15:46:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE01E14D08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA15208; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:46:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:46:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: "D. Rock" Cc: Alex Zepeda , current Subject: Re: config is broken? In-Reply-To: <375AEB8E.73F4944A@dead-end.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just ran into this too and just committed a fix for it. Look for revision 1.116 of options.i386. On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, D. Rock wrote: # This option is in /sys/conf/options and /sys/i386/conf/options.i386 # # According to the cvs log, the floppy driver has moved out of the i386 # architecture directory. It seems the options.i386 has been forgotten # (options.pc98 has been corrected). # # Daniel # # Alex Zepeda schrieb: # > # > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#config -g DUSTER # > options.i386: Duplicate option FDC_DEBUG. # > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf#grep FDC_DEBUG * # > LINT:# FDC_DEBUG enables floppy debugging. Since the debug output is # > huge, you # > LINT:options FDC_DEBUG # > options.i386:FDC_DEBUG opt_fdc.h # > redwood201:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf# # # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 16: 5:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637DE15529 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA13898; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:05:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:00:20 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:00:17 +0000 To: Julian Elischer From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: I claim the all-time worldstone record :-) :-) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:28 pm -0700 6/6/99, Julian Elischer wrote: >it's there because it removes a whole step in finding out how long >the compile took. (for example if you forget to redirect your output to a >log file (like I did yesterday :-)) I use a wrapper script which backgrounds the build and redirects the output; records the cvsup time, when the current kernel was built and some other stuff; and greps the start and end times out of the make log. The wrapper script appends all this stuff to a historical log file, kernel builds are recorded in the same file (another wrapper script). -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 17:52:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065CF14F3B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25195 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: wide char support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there anything in current that provides wide character support? I'm messing around with document formatting, and I have to be involved with wide character things. One example: wcscat(). It's not the only one, I just need to know if it's in *any* library, and declared in any include file. Don't give me an answer that deals with wcscat() only, that's just one example, and I'll just be back like a bad penny. If it's not a current subject (but it's there) then reply privately, I don't want to pollute the list. What I'm doing is destined for current, so I don't care if it's not in stable or some older release. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 18: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E96D150BF for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA80635; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906070104.VAA80635@cs.rpi.edu> To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: Message from Chuck Robey of "Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:52:26 EDT." Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:04:27 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there anything in current that provides wide character support? I'm > messing around with document formatting, and I have to be involved with > wide character things. One example: wcscat(). It's not the only one, I > just need to know if it's in *any* library, and declared in any include > file. > > Don't give me an answer that deals with wcscat() only, that's just one > example, and I'll just be back like a bad penny. If it's not a current > subject (but it's there) then reply privately, I don't want to pollute > the list. > > What I'm doing is destined for current, so I don't care if it's not in > stable or some older release. As one of the people currently working on wchar support for FreeBSD, I can safely say that it is not in current. I do have 'libwcs' available that includes all functions that I am aware of that start with wcs*(). Also included are man pages and a testsuite for all but 4 of the functions. I can send this to you if desired. This also provides a kick in my pants to finish it up and submit it for review. -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 18:19:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (dhcp116.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C451D1507D for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obonilla@voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu) Received: (from obonilla@localhost) by voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04315; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:19:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from obonilla) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:19:28 -0600 From: Oscar Bonilla To: Tomer Weller Cc: "" Subject: Re: KDE programs won't compile Message-ID: <19990606191928.B4103@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <99060521105700.05202@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <99060521105700.05202@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org>; from Tomer Weller on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 09:08:54PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 09:08:54PM +0300, Tomer Weller wrote: > every small kde program i try to install (right now i tried Knewmail and Kover) > i get : > checking for kde headers installed... configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! > Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. > i'm using a current machine as if last night, installed kde from ports > (yes, kde-libs was compiled with -CURRENT and EGCS) > > any idea what's the problem ? > $./configure --prefix=/usr/local that should solve it. regards, -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 21:18:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coconut.itojun.org (coconut.itojun.org [210.160.95.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013181514A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itojun@itojun.org) Received: from kiwi.itojun.org (localhost.itojun.org [127.0.0.1]) by coconut.itojun.org (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id NAA22193; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:18:47 +0900 (JST) To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: crossd's message of Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:04:27 -0400. <199906070104.VAA80635@cs.rpi.edu> X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 Subject: Re: wide char support Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:18:47 +0900 Message-ID: <22191.928729127@coconut.itojun.org> From: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Is there anything in current that provides wide character support? I'm >> messing around with document formatting, and I have to be involved with >> wide character things. One example: wcscat(). It's not the only one, I >> just need to know if it's in *any* library, and declared in any include >> file. There are several Japanese people working on stateful multibyte char support. Existing codebase like glibc only supports stateless multibyte char. People using iso-2022 variants (Japan, Korea, China, you name it) need stateful multibyte char support. We have some code fragment used in various software packages like multilingual vi or multilingual schedule management tool, and we would like to clean up those to fit into src/lib/whatever. I'll be talking about this issue a bit in my presentation at Usenix/ Freenix99 (titled "multilingual vi") so come to presentation room or catch me somewhere in the conference site. (again, there's language barrier problem... I think we should sort it out. I believe the best way is to ban Japanese-language mailing list for the project, but other volunteers may have some trouble) itojun@involved into too many projects To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 21:34:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D4A156FD for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA82963; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906070433.AAA82963@cs.rpi.edu> To: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: Message from Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:18:47 +0900." <22191.928729127@coconut.itojun.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:33:29 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are several Japanese people working on stateful multibyte char > support. Existing codebase like glibc only supports stateless > multibyte char. People using iso-2022 variants (Japan, Korea, > China, you name it) need stateful multibyte char support. > We have some code fragment used in various software packages > like multilingual vi or multilingual schedule management tool, and > we would like to clean up those to fit into src/lib/whatever. > I'll be talking about this issue a bit in my presentation at Usenix/ > Freenix99 (titled "multilingual vi") so come to presentation > room or catch me somewhere in the conference site. > > (again, there's language barrier problem... I think we should sort > it out. I believe the best way is to ban Japanese-language mailing > list for the project, but other volunteers may have some trouble) Alas I will not be at Usenix. I do hope to be able to attend FreeBSDcon'99. I think both of our work is valuable. We need both statefull and stateless I18N support; because there is source that uses both. Language has been a problem, but it is good to see we have some liasons bridging that gap to keep us from replicating efforts and stepping on toes and emotions. -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 21:36:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FC0155EF for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00466 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:36:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Panic on boot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering, I've been spending all my time recently on a research task, and I might have missed this: I just rebuilt world, then reinstalled a new kernel, and it won't mount root. Luckily, my old kernel is just fine, and uses my new modules fine, but it won't mount root. I noticed in the kernel config file that I had the old formulation for "mount root on" so I changed it to the new one, rebooted, nothing changed at all. I have an Intel DK440LX with a AIC7895 dual Adaptec controller, with 2 4G drives on one controller, one 4G drive and one cdrom on the other. I've checked with the old kernel, comparing everything, it all looks fine, and the new kernel won't even boot single user, so I can't tell if it's suddenly decided to juggle my drives or not. anyone know if anything has changed? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:29:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-89.camalott.com [208.229.74.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD6814F94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA73257; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:29:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <199906060614.XAA17631@apollo.backplane.com> From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 07 Jun 1999 00:29:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: Matthew Dillon's message of "Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:14:02 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <861zfod1e4.fsf_-_@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> But remember that the idea is the keepalive would keep trying for a >> certain amount of time, and this would be finely configureable. > Adjusting the keepalive's retry period after activation is also > irrelevant. As they currently stand, keepalives operate in virtually [snip] I don't see why this is a point of discussion. The keepalive timers are all configurable via sysctl. Is this mechanism being considered as insufficient? > Unless the entire purpose of the connection is to simply be connected, > with no data flow ever, being able to finely tune keepalive values does > not really help. The existing rough tuning is as much as anyone will > ever need to mess with. With all due respect, Matt, the second biggest lesson my time with computers has taught me is to never think that X will be enough for all needs. 640k, 32 bit IP addresses, two-digit years, Ada, non 8-bit-clean text utilities, one-second granularity in the filesystem timestamps, yada yada. (Note that I have no objection to saying that we don't see a need to implement it at present. In this case, I sure don't see such a need, but I'm willing to be given a counterexample. We're not looking at making it impossible-- or even difficult-- to implement other keepalive timing strategies in the future, if the need arises, so I would suggest that we not concern ourselves with this discussion until the need arises.) Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:41:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E17514F94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40335>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:25:05 +1000 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:41:09 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jun7.152505est.40335@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joel Ray Holveck wrote: >I don't see why this is a point of discussion. The keepalive timers >are all configurable via sysctl. Not quite all. The variables tcp_keepcnt and tcp_maxpersistidle are not accessible via sysctl (the latter is not directly related to the current keepalives issue, but it shares the same default value - TCPTV_KEEP_IDLE - as tcp_keepidle). There's also the the minor nit that there's no documentation. RTSL may be OK for developers, but it's not really appropriate for end users. This is aggravated by the timers being in 500ms units - phk tripped over this recently. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:44:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D16C156BF for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01154; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: <22191.928729127@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > > >> Is there anything in current that provides wide character support? I'm > >> messing around with document formatting, and I have to be involved with > >> wide character things. One example: wcscat(). It's not the only one, I > >> just need to know if it's in *any* library, and declared in any include > >> file. > > There are several Japanese people working on stateful multibyte char > support. Existing codebase like glibc only supports stateless > multibyte char. People using iso-2022 variants (Japan, Korea, > China, you name it) need stateful multibyte char support. > We have some code fragment used in various software packages > like multilingual vi or multilingual schedule management tool, and > we would like to clean up those to fit into src/lib/whatever. > I'll be talking about this issue a bit in my presentation at Usenix/ > Freenix99 (titled "multilingual vi") so come to presentation > room or catch me somewhere in the conference site. > > (again, there's language barrier problem... I think we should sort > it out. I believe the best way is to ban Japanese-language mailing > list for the project, but other volunteers may have some trouble) Do you guys have any testable, even if it's not ready for prime time? I need wchar.h and the wcs* functions for a project for FreeBSD. You want me to have this, I think. David said he had something ready to play with (I think) but I haven't heard from him yet. As far as the list ... Urrr, I don't speak Japanese. I'm willing if someone would do the interpreting, but I better make it clear that my own interest is in document formatting, not on the Unicode support in and of itself, you understand? I want you guys to be able to use my stuff, but since I can't read it, I'll never use 16 bit characters myself. I think. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:45:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB04314C11 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00789 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:45:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: About the panic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it didn't like that anymore. Anyhow, it's fixed. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:48:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from SIMULTAN.CH (eunet-gw.simultan.ch [194.191.191.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F5014C11 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Received: from simultan.ch (wsaltis-053.SIMULTAN.CH [192.92.128.53]) by SIMULTAN.CH (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA00711; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:48:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Message-ID: <375B5D12.9B34BD2B@simultan.ch> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:48:02 +0200 From: Thomas Seidmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolai Petri Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do i implement an Application firewall (like an transparentftp-proxy) (smtp verifier etc.) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com wrote: > > Lookup natd on the freebsd page. Yes, and take a look at the ipfw 'forward' rule. It is your friend. Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:52:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53BC15684 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA83480; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906070551.BAA83480@cs.rpi.edu> To: Chuck Robey Cc: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino , "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: Message from Chuck Robey of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:57:51 EDT." Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 01:51:52 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The latest snapshot can be grabbed from: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz New in this release... 1) Man pages (I don't think I included them prior to this) 2) Makefile that sorta works (makes a dynamic library.. I don't recommend people use the dynamic, it is convienient for me doing testing) 3) Bug fixes. 4) wcstest: my own program for testing some of the code-paths in the library routines. This was just created from my work space... I don't know if it compiles. I think it does, and you have the test program to be fairly sure that what does compile is at least paritally correct. -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 6 22:57:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coconut.itojun.org (coconut.itojun.org [210.160.95.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B3D15582 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from itojun@itojun.org) Received: from kiwi.itojun.org (localhost.itojun.org [127.0.0.1]) by coconut.itojun.org (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id OAA24004; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:56:54 +0900 (JST) To: Chuck Robey Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: chuckr's message of Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:57:51 -0400. X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 Subject: Re: wide char support From: itojun@iijlab.net Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:56:54 +0900 Message-ID: <24002.928735014@coconut.itojun.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Do you guys have any testable, even if it's not ready for prime time? I >need wchar.h and the wcs* functions for a project for FreeBSD. You want >me to have this, I think. David said he had something ready to play >with (I think) but I haven't heard from him yet. We have some code fragment, with small wchar-compliant application to play with. This is not integrated into src/lib/whatever yet. I'll be supplying URL for those who would like test this (sorry not on the mailing list...), so contact me if interested. itojun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 5:35: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1235C14DA6 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18371.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.51]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01580; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA24971; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:34:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:34:26 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the panic Message-ID: <19990607083426.D24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:45:47AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:45:47AM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did > it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it > didn't like that anymore. Hmm... I guess GENERIC wouldn't have booted for you either..... -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 8:22:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D085515046 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13060; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:17:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:17:43 -0400 From: bush doctor To: "Daniel J. O'Connor" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is MTRR all about??? Message-ID: <19990607111743.B12741@bantu.cl.msu.edu> References: <19990605173220.A8620@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Daniel J. O'Connor on Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 01:30:58PM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Daniel J. O'Connor (darius@dons.net.au): > > On 05-Jun-99 bush doctor wrote: > > No man page yet. No horrors tho'. Man pages and info files are great, > > but there's nothing like reading through the sources ... #;^) > > Well given that the source contains help information its not a bad problem.. I > think the author is a tad busy at the moment :) Agreed ... #;^) > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum #;^) -- So ya want ta here da roots? Dem that feels it knows it ... bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 8:23:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.skunk.org (unknown [207.25.53.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A9515146 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by mailhost.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01516 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:24:15 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:24:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Rosengart To: current@freebsd.org Subject: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as well as in the ports collection. Can someone please enlighten me? TIA. -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 8:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B63B14D65 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:29:36 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id MKM83JX7; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:21:45 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10r1QM-000BAj-00; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:34:54 +0100 To: Ben Rosengart Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: Ben Rosengart's message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:24:15 -0000" Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:34:53 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed: > I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as > well as in the ports collection. Can someone please enlighten me? TIA. To support 2.2.x users? -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 8:47:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017AE15298 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13137; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:43:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:43:44 -0400 From: bush doctor To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extra text modes via vidcontrol... Message-ID: <19990607114344.D12741@bantu.cl.msu.edu> References: <199906020524.OAA17278@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <19990607094608.A12741@bantu.cl.msu.edu> <199906071449.XAA29492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906071449.XAA29492@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>; from Kazutaka YOKOTA on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 11:48:59PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Kazutaka YOKOTA (yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp): > > >> Are you sure you enabled "options VM86" in the kernel configuration > >> file and loaded the vesa module by the boot loader? > >Hmmm ... > >When I added "options VM86" to my kernel config file I get: > > > >su-2.02# config BANTU > >BANTU:135: unknown option "VM86" > >Unknown option used - it is VERY important that you do > > make clean && make depend > > before recompiling > > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/BANTU > > Umm, this means that your source tree is not as current as it should > be, in order to be called "4.0-CURRENT". The VM86 option was added to > the -CURRENT branch long before 3.0-RELEASE! How are you updating > your source tree in /usr/src? I update everyday with cvsup. > > >bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> uname -a > >FreeBSD bantu.cl.msu.edu 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #19: Thu Jun 3 13:54 > >:15 EDT 1999 root@bantu.cl.msu.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/BANTU i386 > > > >I did get splash screen to work with the default 320x200 bmp files ... > >The files I'm working with are from > > http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ammunition/splash.html > > Good! Thanxs for the you've done with the syscons stuff ... > > Kazu #;^) -- So ya want ta here da roots? Dem that feels it knows it ... bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 9: 1:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9C91519F for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02178; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:01:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the panic In-Reply-To: <19990607083426.D24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:45:47AM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > > Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did > > it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it > > didn't like that anymore. > > Hmm... I guess GENERIC wouldn't have booted for you either..... The old generic I had? Yeah, it probably would have booted, but my last kerlen.old (which I hastily renamed) booted well enough for emergency work. Got to say one thing about these occaisonal panics running current ... not in jest, they sure do teach emergency damage control. You become *real* aware of everything in /bin and /sbin. Got no complaints on that score at all, because the panics are real seldom, and if I wasn't running current there wouldn't be any at all. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 9:32:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9334B15061 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03809; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: itojun@iijlab.net Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wide char support In-Reply-To: <24002.928735014@coconut.itojun.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 itojun@iijlab.net wrote: > > >Do you guys have any testable, even if it's not ready for prime time? I > >need wchar.h and the wcs* functions for a project for FreeBSD. You want > >me to have this, I think. David said he had something ready to play > >with (I think) but I haven't heard from him yet. > > We have some code fragment, with small wchar-compliant > application to play with. This is not integrated into > src/lib/whatever yet. I'll be supplying URL for those who would > like test this (sorry not on the mailing list...), so contact me if > interested. Fine. Now I have *two* sources, they both claim it's not quite done, and I don't know about wide characters. Grumble. May you both live in interesting times! Anyhow, David, your wcstok.c looks like it's got a problem, in that there are two wcstok_r's defined, but no wcstok_t. I think it's a tiny typo, but I don't know enough about what either are to do to be sure. Other than that, it builds fine, and your test prog runs ok. I changed your Makefile to build a shared lib version too, which will *work* once the wcstok_t is fixed. itojun (I was kidding above, making sure you knew) I'm checking yours now. > > itojun > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 10:11:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8D915220 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18411.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.91]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01237; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA26737; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:36 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the panic Message-ID: <19990607131136.A26659@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> References: <19990607083426.D24810@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 12:01:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 12:01:15PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did > > > it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it > > > didn't like that anymore. > > > > Hmm... I guess GENERIC wouldn't have booted for you either..... > The old generic I had? Yeah, it probably would have booted, but my last No, a brand new GENERIC of the type that would be found on a sysinstall boot disk. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 11:26: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6319D14C49 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06368 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 11:57: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE12514C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 33742 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 18:57:01 -0000 Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.41) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 18:57:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (dscheidt@localhost) by shell-2.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA08345; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:57:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell-2.enteract.com: dscheidt owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:57:01 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D479156B9 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08095; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:04:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: David Scheidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, David Scheidt wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > > > > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no possible justification for that. Besides, calls to ld *do* fail, in the build, except the way it is now, it's harder to figure out. > > David > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:14:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (unknown [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9D8157C3 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20650; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA08597; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199906071914.NAA08597@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chuck Robey Cc: David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > > > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > > > > > > > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? > > That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge > thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no > possible justification for that. Sure there is, in the same manner that we don't use 'cc -v' as the command line parameters to see *all* the excruciating details of how a program is compiled. The '@' calls are not considered important details, and as such are hidden. If we include *EVERYTHING* then finding the actual problem is often much harder due to trying to wade through the noise. The '@' commands help to reduce the noise, giving us a better signal/noise ratio. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:16: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85C41541F for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:15:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA76141 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:15:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906071915.PAA76141@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: from David Scheidt at "Jun 7, 1999 01:57:01 pm" To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Scheidt once wrote: > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading > > @'s, so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it > > hides things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? As one who has also tripped over this in the past, I'll second Chuck's vote. A call to ld fails more often then that to mv, but I often found myself going through the bsd.*.mk and removing the ``@''. Mostly so that I can see the exact ld-line, but not only... I remember, in the past, when people were wondering about The Right Ways to link on FreeBSD they were refered to the bsd.lib.mk. If the bsd.lib.mk was exposing the actual link commands a little better, this reference would have been easier to follow. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAF114BFA for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08174; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:17:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Nate Williams Cc: David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: <199906071914.NAA08597@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > > > > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > > > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > > > > > > > > > > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? > > > > That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge > > thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no > > possible justification for that. > > Sure there is, in the same manner that we don't use 'cc -v' as the > command line parameters to see *all* the excruciating details of how a > program is compiled. > > The '@' calls are not considered important details, and as such are > hidden. If we include *EVERYTHING* then finding the actual problem is > often much harder due to trying to wade through the noise. > > The '@' commands help to reduce the noise, giving us a better > signal/noise ratio. On a buildworld, Nate? Who's worried about signal to noise there? I could understand if you were talking about boot issues, but this is the listing of a build that breaks on a regular basis. Why are you worried about keeping that listing clean? What possible use is that? Being clean comes into play when you're seeing the same damn thing, day in and day out. When it comes to troubleshooting, and that's the only reason to look at that listing, I want as much detail as I can get. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:21:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (unknown [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED079158D9 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20723; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:21:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA08649; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:21:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:21:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199906071921.NAA08649@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chuck Robey Cc: Nate Williams , David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: References: <199906071914.NAA08597@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > > > > > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > > > > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? > > > > > > That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge > > > thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no > > > possible justification for that. > > > > Sure there is, in the same manner that we don't use 'cc -v' as the > > command line parameters to see *all* the excruciating details of how a > > program is compiled. > > > > The '@' calls are not considered important details, and as such are > > hidden. If we include *EVERYTHING* then finding the actual problem is > > often much harder due to trying to wade through the noise. > > > > The '@' commands help to reduce the noise, giving us a better > > signal/noise ratio. > > On a buildworld, Nate? bsd.lib.mk is used in all 'builds', not just buildworld. When I do the following sets of commands: # cd /usr/src/lib/libc # make I also use bsd.lib.mk. I don't *care* about the '@' commands. > Who's worried about signal to noise there? I am, if I'm the developer trying to debug a user's problem. Wading through 1-2M of logfiles to find a problem is much less likely than me wading through 100-200K of logfiles. > Being clean comes into play when you're seeing the same damn thing, day > in and day out. When it comes to troubleshooting, and that's the only > reason to look at that listing, I want as much detail as I can get. It's only useful information if it can *HELP* you debug the problem, and I'll argue that 99/100 times, that information is rarely helpful. Engineering practice suggests optimizing your solution for the 'normal' case, not the boundary case. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:29:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5D1157A6 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08278; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Nate Williams Cc: David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: <199906071921.NAA08649@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > > > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > > > > > > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > > > > > > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail? > > > > > > > > That's not the point, the point is that current is a bleeding edge > > > > thing, not production, and the details should not be hidden, there's no > > > > possible justification for that. > > > > > > Sure there is, in the same manner that we don't use 'cc -v' as the > > > command line parameters to see *all* the excruciating details of how a > > > program is compiled. > > > > > > The '@' calls are not considered important details, and as such are > > > hidden. If we include *EVERYTHING* then finding the actual problem is > > > often much harder due to trying to wade through the noise. > > > > > > The '@' commands help to reduce the noise, giving us a better > > > signal/noise ratio. > > > > On a buildworld, Nate? > > bsd.lib.mk is used in all 'builds', not just buildworld. When I do the > following sets of commands: > > # cd /usr/src/lib/libc > # make > > I also use bsd.lib.mk. > > I don't *care* about the '@' commands. > > > Who's worried about signal to noise there? > > I am, if I'm the developer trying to debug a user's problem. Wading > through 1-2M of logfiles to find a problem is much less likely than me > wading through 100-200K of logfiles. Wait a second. bsd.lib.mk is for our buildworld, right? If you're hijacking it for customers, that's fine, but it's for buildworld for FreeBSD, not for everyone's customers. If it's a customer's thing, then it doesn't change all the time, and you can very easily stick in all those @ signs, but not so for the guy doing a buildworld, who gets his stuff put back with every cvsup. When the buildworld breaks, the info is at the end of the listing nearly all of the time, so there isn't any searching time. You refer to logfiles, but I'm talking about bsd.lib.mk, and not your application that must be bending bsd.lib.mk to produce logfiles. This is for buildworld listings. When you get to the problem, you want to know why it broke. If you use this makefile for your customer's, fine, you can stick all the @ signs in you want, because your customer isn't always regenning new bsd.lib.mk's like we all are. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:34: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (unknown [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C3814C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20840; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:33:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA08776; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:33:23 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:33:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199906071933.NAA08776@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chuck Robey Cc: Nate Williams , David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: References: <199906071921.NAA08649@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Who's worried about signal to noise there? > > > > I am, if I'm the developer trying to debug a user's problem. Wading > > through 1-2M of logfiles to find a problem is much less likely than me > > wading through 100-200K of logfiles. > > Wait a second. bsd.lib.mk is for our buildworld, right? It's for building source files in the source tree. Buildworld is *ONE* time that we build sources, but certainly not the only time it's used. > If you're hijacking it for customers, that's fine, but it's for > buildworld for FreeBSD, not for everyone's customers. What *are* you talking about? 'buildworld' is a FreeBSD'izm, and bsd.lib.mk predates it. bsd.lib.mk is part of all of the *BSD's, so equating /usr/share/mk/*.mk as only needed for 'world' building is an incorrect assumption. I have no 'FreeBSD' customers, so any assumptions you want to make about me using FreeBSD as a platform other than as a personal development platform are incorrect. > When you get to the problem, you want to know why it broke. And 99/100 (heck, I'd go 99.999999/100) the problem will not require the output of the '@' commands, so adding their output to the logfile only serves to create un-necessary noise and potentially confuse the users. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:37:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FF5157CC for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08347; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Colin Jensen Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Williams Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: <199906071929.MAA41839@idiom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Colin Jensen wrote: > Why not just define a macro like SILENT_RUN=@ and replace > all the @ with ${SILENT}? Then both sides of can get what they > want :-) A compromise. I *love* compromises. How about this, Nate? > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic and jaunt, both FreeBSD-current. (301) 220-2114 | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 12:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0A514C57 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA16422; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:53:46 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:53:46 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: Alex Zepeda , Brett Taylor , Tomer Weller , "" Subject: Re: KDE programs won't compile In-Reply-To: <86g145dhi8.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Jun 1999, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> I can only assume that we install our KDE headers somewhere different than > >> the developers (primarily on Linux machines). > > By default, KDE installs to /usr/local/kde. On RedHat, the RPM > installs it to /opt/kde. All the includes are in > /usr/local/kde/include, the libs in /usr/local/kde/lib, etc. > > >> where the headers are on the FreeBSD machines and then you'll have to > >> probably add a configure argument like: > >> --with_kde_includes= /some/dir/where/kde/includes/are > > Most KDE programs, including the configure scripts, look for the > KDEDIR environment variable. I believe that the correct thing to do > with FreeBSD's KDE install is to set KDEDIR to /usr/local. I do this > in /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc here. (I have KDE in > /usr/local/kde here, too, so I haven't tested it as /usr/local.) > NO!!!! This can't be left to stand so. A port *should* set the KDEDIR to $PREFIX, not /usr/local. Just maybe I don't have my ports under /usr/local or have a separate test branch under something else? > > Yes, for better or for worse (I'd vote for worse), the FreeBSD ports > > install the kde headers in /usr/local/include.. However a simple > > --prefix=/usr/local *should* fix any configure problems, and if this > > is to make it into a FreeBSD port, use --prefix=$(PREFIX). > > --prefix specifies where it should install to. However, this app > needs to find some 3rd-party include files, so --prefix is not > appropriate. > --prefix=($PREFIX) is definately appropriate - you signal with $PREFIX what is the root of your "install to" tree. If you have your ports under /opt, $PREFIX=/opt -- by default $PREFIX=/usr/local. > FWIW, I've found that using /usr/local/kde instead of /usr/local has, > in my case, been most helpful. I don't advocate it for every tiny > library, but for something as large and complex as KDE, it works well. > It must definately be used with moderation. > Cheers, > joelh > > -- > Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org > Fourth law of programming: > Anything that can go wrong wi > sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 13:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457CD14C36 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA61641; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:04 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Chuck Robey Cc: Nate Williams , David Scheidt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s Message-ID: <19990607131403.A55516@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <199906071921.NAA08649@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 03:29:18PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 03:29:18PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > Wait a second. bsd.lib.mk is for our buildworld, right? If you're > hijacking it for customers, that's fine, but it's for buildworld for I always thought it was for anyone to use. Just one of those things that makes developing for FreeBSD so nice... Many ports use bsd.lib.mk, too. Surely bsd.prog.mk as well. -- Matthew Hunt * Inertia is a property http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * of matter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 13:21:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (unknown [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDEE14C36 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.36]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990607202330.NELK8785947.mta2-rme@wocker>; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:23:30 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Ben Rosengart Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:21:03 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: current@freebsd.org References: Ben Rosengart's message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:24:15 -0000" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990607202330.NELK8785947.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Jun 99, at 16:34, Dom Mitchell wrote: > On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed: > > I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as > > well as in the ports collection. Can someone please enlighten me? TIA. > > To support 2.2.x users? Yes. Please don't forget about us! [using 2.2.8 and 3.1] -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 14:41:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A5914FEA for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40321>; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:25:00 +1000 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:41:13 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Building www/en To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Part of my regular rebuild is a `cd www/en; make -DENGLISH_ONLY' Lately, this has started failing due to the absence of /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog. This appears to be the result of: >nik 1999/06/03 12:39:30 PDT > > Modified files: > share/mk docproj.docbook.mk > Log: > Change ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} to point at the master catalog for all the > DocBook DTDs, not just the 3.0 one. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.5 +2 -2 doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog? It doesn't exist in any of the ports. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 16:39:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760915857 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.reilly@lake.com.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA21994 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:39:09 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: a.reilly@lake.com.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-48-172.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.48.172]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA24011 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:39:07 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 85299 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jun 1999 23:39:07 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:39:07 +1000 To: Dom Mitchell Cc: Ben Rosengart , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? Message-ID: <19990608093907.A85247@gurney.reilly.home> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Dom Mitchell on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 04:34:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 04:34:53PM +0100, Dom Mitchell wrote: > On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed: > > I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as > > well as in the ports collection. Can someone please enlighten me? TIA. > > To support 2.2.x users? Maybe 3.x users actually want tcpd too. I'm running -STABLE, and qmail, and discovered that tcp_wrappers was somehow part of the system when things started misbehaving. Oddly, tcpd itself is _not_ built by the system, it seems. The libwrap that is built (or at least the man page for tcpdchk) seems to think that the control files hosts.access and hosts.deny still live in /usr/local/etc/, rather than where you would expect a system component to put them: /etc. My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports, which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't find any of it's log messages... -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 16:55:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-47.camalott.com [208.229.74.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CAE158B2 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA82991; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:53:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) To: Narvi Cc: Alex Zepeda , Brett Taylor , Tomer Weller , "" Subject: Re: KDE programs won't compile References: From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 07 Jun 1999 18:53:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: Narvi's message of "Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:53:46 +0300 (EEST)" Message-ID: <86pv37lg89.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Most KDE programs, including the configure scripts, look for the >> KDEDIR environment variable. I believe that the correct thing to do >> with FreeBSD's KDE install is to set KDEDIR to /usr/local. I do this >> in /etc/profile and /etc/csh.cshrc here. (I have KDE in >> /usr/local/kde here, too, so I haven't tested it as /usr/local.) > NO!!!! This can't be left to stand so. A port *should* set the KDEDIR to > $PREFIX, not /usr/local. Just maybe I don't have my ports under /usr/local > or have a separate test branch under something else? I spoke ambiguously. I did not mean that FreeBSD's KDE install should set KDEDIR to /usr/local. I meant that, if you used FreeBSD's defaults while installing KDE, then you should set KDEDIR to /usr/local in order to install other apps. >> --prefix specifies where it should install to. However, this app >> needs to find some 3rd-party include files, so --prefix is not >> appropriate. > --prefix=($PREFIX) is definately appropriate - you signal with $PREFIX > what is the root of your "install to" tree. If you have your ports under > /opt, $PREFIX=/opt -- by default $PREFIX=/usr/local. I am referring to where to find KDE, not where to install it. I do not have KDE in $PREFIX here; apps should look in KDEDIR instead of what I set --prefix to. Normally, these are the same, but your comments about test branches etc still apply. In such a case, I would set $PREFIX to /usr/local/test while I have KDEDIR set to /usr/local/kde. An app looking for KDE in /usr/local/test would be sorely disappointed. Happy hacking, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 17:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E56B1580E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:18:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Andrew Reilly" Cc: Dom Mitchell , Ben Rosengart , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? In-Reply-To: "Andrew Reilly"'s (a.reilly@lake.com.au) message dated Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:39:07. <19990608093907.A85247@gurney.reilly.home> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:18:46 -0400 Message-ID: <13555.928801126@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports, > which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't > find any of it's log messages... Try adding a '-v' to the syslogd startup (or '-vv'). Funny, that used to be documented in the man page... If that's not enough, add a '-d' so you can watch what happens. It shouldn't take long to find what you want. Checking the source, it looks like it uses LOG_MAIL as the facility. You can also use the ! stuff in syslog.conf - the tcp wrappers use the invoking program name to log stuff. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 18:14:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F071E14E10 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40326>; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:57:57 +1000 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:14:08 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Jun8.105757est.40326@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: >On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Colin Jensen wrote: > >> Why not just define a macro like SILENT_RUN=@ and replace >> all the @ with ${SILENT}? Then both sides of can get what they >> want :-) > >A compromise. I *love* compromises. How about this, Nate? I have an alternative compromise - add an option to make(1) so it will ignore the `@' symbol. The following adds a `-@' option (the option letter could be easily changed). I haven't updated make.1, but will if the following is acceptable. Index: compat.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/compat.c,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 compat.c --- compat.c 1998/09/09 05:15:38 1.12 +++ compat.c 1999/06/07 22:12:24 @@ -239,7 +239,8 @@ while ((*cmd == '@') || (*cmd == '-')) { if (*cmd == '@') { - silent = TRUE; + if (!notSilent) + silent = TRUE; } else { errCheck = FALSE; } Index: job.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/job.c,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 job.c --- job.c 1999/02/14 22:22:42 1.12 +++ job.c 1999/06/07 22:11:41 @@ -483,7 +483,7 @@ * JobPrintCommand -- * Put out another command for the given job. If the command starts * with an @ or a - we process it specially. In the former case, - * so long as the -s and -n flags weren't given to make, we stick + * so long as the -@, -s and -n flags weren't given to make, we stick * a shell-specific echoOff command in the script. In the latter, * we ignore errors for the entire job, unless the shell has error * control. @@ -561,7 +561,8 @@ */ while (*cmd == '@' || *cmd == '-') { if (*cmd == '@') { - shutUp = TRUE; + if (!notSilent) + shutUp = TRUE; } else { errOff = TRUE; } Index: main.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/main.c,v retrieving revision 1.30 diff -u -r1.30 main.c --- main.c 1999/03/01 06:01:05 1.30 +++ main.c 1999/06/07 22:17:43 @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ Boolean usePipes; /* !-P flag */ Boolean ignoreErrors; /* -i flag */ Boolean beSilent; /* -s flag */ +Boolean notSilent; /* -@ flag */ Boolean beVerbose; /* -v flag */ Boolean oldVars; /* variable substitution style */ Boolean checkEnvFirst; /* -e flag */ @@ -172,12 +173,16 @@ optind = 1; /* since we're called more than once */ #ifdef REMOTE -# define OPTFLAGS "BD:I:L:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" +# define OPTFLAGS "@BD:I:L:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" #else -# define OPTFLAGS "BD:I:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" +# define OPTFLAGS "@BD:I:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" #endif rearg: while((c = getopt(argc, argv, OPTFLAGS)) != -1) { switch(c) { + case '@': + notSilent = TRUE; + Var_Append(MAKEFLAGS, "-@", VAR_GLOBAL); + break; case 'D': Var_Set(optarg, "1", VAR_GLOBAL); Var_Append(MAKEFLAGS, "-D", VAR_GLOBAL); @@ -1280,7 +1285,7 @@ usage() { (void)fprintf(stderr, "%s\n%s\n%s\n", -"usage: make [-Beiknqrstv] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-f makefile]", +"usage: make [-@Beiknqrstv] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-f makefile]", " [-I directory] [-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V variable]", " [variable=value] [target ...]"); exit(2); Index: make.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/make.h,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 make.h --- make.h 1998/11/14 16:15:04 1.8 +++ make.h 1999/06/07 22:12:25 @@ -294,6 +294,7 @@ extern Boolean compatMake; /* True if we are make compatible */ extern Boolean ignoreErrors; /* True if should ignore all errors */ extern Boolean beSilent; /* True if should print no commands */ +extern Boolean notSilent; /* True if should print `@' commands */ extern Boolean beVerbose; /* True if should print extra cruft */ extern Boolean noExecute; /* True if should execute nothing */ extern Boolean allPrecious; /* True if every target is precious */ Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 18:43:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668CF1502B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA60319 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:42:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199906080142.VAA60319@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <99Jun7.152505est.40335@border.alcanet.com.au> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:41:09 +1000." <99Jun7.152505est.40335@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:42:28 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There's also the the minor nit that there's no documentation. RTSL > may be OK for developers, but it's not really appropriate for end > users. This is aggravated by the timers being in 500ms units - phk > tripped over this recently. Before documenting it, how about we fix it's name to be more accurate to newcomers: net.inet.tcp.always_makedead, etc. There's no part of this (in many cases misguided) mechanism that keeps anything "alive." louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 18:54:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (mail1.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36C91502B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-209-214-76-9.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.76.9]) by mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07243; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA04580; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:56:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199906080156.VAA04580@bellsouth.net> To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:26:02 EDT." Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:56:24 -0400 From: Charlie Root Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides > things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. I like extreme verbosity too, but some don't :-) PMake is supposed to have a .SHELL: pseudo-target that allows one to specify how to make shell commands "quiet". If one could figure out how to use that, it would be trivial to provide a knob for this. I couldn't make .SHELL work though; consult /usr/src/usr.bin/make/job.c if you're interested. I'd like to know how to disable "quiet" commands too... Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 19:10:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C006151EE for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA50411; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: <99Jun8.105757est.40326@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Colin Jensen wrote: > > > >> Why not just define a macro like SILENT_RUN=@ and replace > >> all the @ with ${SILENT}? Then both sides of can get what they > >> want :-) > > > >A compromise. I *love* compromises. How about this, Nate? > > I have an alternative compromise - add an option to make(1) so it > will ignore the `@' symbol. The following adds a `-@' option (the > option letter could be easily changed). I haven't updated make.1, > but will if the following is acceptable. That won't work on buildworld, where it takes full control of the make environment. You'll need to have *something* in the makefiles to allow for it. > > Index: compat.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/compat.c,v > retrieving revision 1.12 > diff -u -r1.12 compat.c > --- compat.c 1998/09/09 05:15:38 1.12 > +++ compat.c 1999/06/07 22:12:24 > @@ -239,7 +239,8 @@ > > while ((*cmd == '@') || (*cmd == '-')) { > if (*cmd == '@') { > - silent = TRUE; > + if (!notSilent) > + silent = TRUE; > } else { > errCheck = FALSE; > } > Index: job.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/job.c,v > retrieving revision 1.12 > diff -u -r1.12 job.c > --- job.c 1999/02/14 22:22:42 1.12 > +++ job.c 1999/06/07 22:11:41 > @@ -483,7 +483,7 @@ > * JobPrintCommand -- > * Put out another command for the given job. If the command starts > * with an @ or a - we process it specially. In the former case, > - * so long as the -s and -n flags weren't given to make, we stick > + * so long as the -@, -s and -n flags weren't given to make, we stick > * a shell-specific echoOff command in the script. In the latter, > * we ignore errors for the entire job, unless the shell has error > * control. > @@ -561,7 +561,8 @@ > */ > while (*cmd == '@' || *cmd == '-') { > if (*cmd == '@') { > - shutUp = TRUE; > + if (!notSilent) > + shutUp = TRUE; > } else { > errOff = TRUE; > } > Index: main.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/main.c,v > retrieving revision 1.30 > diff -u -r1.30 main.c > --- main.c 1999/03/01 06:01:05 1.30 > +++ main.c 1999/06/07 22:17:43 > @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ > Boolean usePipes; /* !-P flag */ > Boolean ignoreErrors; /* -i flag */ > Boolean beSilent; /* -s flag */ > +Boolean notSilent; /* -@ flag */ > Boolean beVerbose; /* -v flag */ > Boolean oldVars; /* variable substitution style */ > Boolean checkEnvFirst; /* -e flag */ > @@ -172,12 +173,16 @@ > > optind = 1; /* since we're called more than once */ > #ifdef REMOTE > -# define OPTFLAGS "BD:I:L:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" > +# define OPTFLAGS "@BD:I:L:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" > #else > -# define OPTFLAGS "BD:I:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" > +# define OPTFLAGS "@BD:I:PSV:d:ef:ij:km:nqrstv" > #endif > rearg: while((c = getopt(argc, argv, OPTFLAGS)) != -1) { > switch(c) { > + case '@': > + notSilent = TRUE; > + Var_Append(MAKEFLAGS, "-@", VAR_GLOBAL); > + break; > case 'D': > Var_Set(optarg, "1", VAR_GLOBAL); > Var_Append(MAKEFLAGS, "-D", VAR_GLOBAL); > @@ -1280,7 +1285,7 @@ > usage() > { > (void)fprintf(stderr, "%s\n%s\n%s\n", > -"usage: make [-Beiknqrstv] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-f makefile]", > +"usage: make [-@Beiknqrstv] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-f makefile]", > " [-I directory] [-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V variable]", > " [variable=value] [target ...]"); > exit(2); > Index: make.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.bin/make/make.h,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -u -r1.8 make.h > --- make.h 1998/11/14 16:15:04 1.8 > +++ make.h 1999/06/07 22:12:25 > @@ -294,6 +294,7 @@ > extern Boolean compatMake; /* True if we are make compatible */ > extern Boolean ignoreErrors; /* True if should ignore all errors */ > extern Boolean beSilent; /* True if should print no commands */ > +extern Boolean notSilent; /* True if should print `@' commands */ > extern Boolean beVerbose; /* True if should print extra cruft */ > extern Boolean noExecute; /* True if should execute nothing */ > extern Boolean allPrecious; /* True if every target is precious */ > > > Peter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic and jaunt, both FreeBSD-current. (301) 220-2114 | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 19:11:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FB815878 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA31558; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906080211.TAA31558@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <99Jun7.152505est.40335@border.alcanet.com.au> <199906080142.VAA60319@whizzo.transsys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :Before documenting it, how about we fix it's name to be more accurate :to newcomers: net.inet.tcp.always_makedead, etc. There's no part of :this (in many cases misguided) mechanism that keeps anything "alive." : :louie The technical term in thousands of pages of literature with millions of copies in print or on disk is "keepalive". -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 19:57:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFAA14E6B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA08946 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA08143; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:56:08 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA48269 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:56:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199906080256.WAA48269@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: sysinstall manpage installation question To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:56:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a -current machine which I use to run a: cd /usr/src && make world && cd release && make release every night. On this machine, the sysinstall manpage is not installed onto the system during make world. % man sysinstall No manual entry for sysinstall % chroot /snap/release /bin/sh # man sysinstall SYSINSTALL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual SYSINSTALL(8) NAME sysinstall - system installation and configuration tool etc, etc, etc. It seems to me, that during a make world, we should build sysinstall into /stand(or elsewhere), and install the manpage in the appropriate location. comments? critiques? Thanks, John ps: I am a heavy user of the scripted install process. I beleive we could help our cause by better documenting how the process works and providing some examples. Along those lines, here is a .cfg file I use for a machine that I use to test SNAPs on. This is an incredible time saving facility. Notes: noError=True is not documented. See dispatch.c line 311 _ftpPath= is not documented. Appears to be an internal vs. external naming scheme. Not sure... See 1.157 of sysinstall.h, int dirty;. # gigabit1.cfg # # FreeBSD Installation Config file for gigabit1.unx.sas.com # # This file generated on 05/06/99 15:23:16 # debug=yes ipaddr=10.26.1.231 hostname=gigabit1.unx.sas.com domainname=unx.sas.com defaultrouter=10.26.0.1 netmask=255.255.0.0 # ----- End of generated information ----- netDev=fxp0 ftp=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD _ftpPath=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD nameserver=10.16.149.6 mediaSetFTP distSetEverything disk=wd0 partition=exclusive diskPartitionEditor # 512 Meg swap partition wd0s1-1=swap 1048576 none # 1 Gig /tmp partition wd0s1-2=ufs 2097152 /tmp # 256 Meg /root partition wd0s1-3=ufs 524288 / # 256 Meg /var partition wd0s1-4=ufs 524288 /var # all remaining space for /usr partition wd0s1-5=ufs 0 /usr diskLabelEditor installCommit package=bash-2.03 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=elm-2.4ME+54 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=emacs-20.3 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=jpeg-6b noError=TRUE packageAdd package=less-337 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=linux_lib-2.6.1 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=mm-2.7 noError=TRUE packageAdd package=pdksh-5.2.13 noError=TRUE packageAdd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 20:40:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.skunk.org (unknown [207.25.53.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470B14E54 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by mailhost.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07636; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:37:45 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:37:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Rosengart To: Chuck Robey Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd.lib.mk "@"'s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > > I have an alternative compromise - add an option to make(1) so it > > will ignore the `@' symbol. The following adds a `-@' option (the > > option letter could be easily changed). I haven't updated make.1, > > but will if the following is acceptable. > > That won't work on buildworld, where it takes full control of the make > environment. You'll need to have *something* in the makefiles to allow > for it. Anyway, it seems much more drastic to change the user interface to make(1) than to change a makefile. No? I don't see what's wrong with the ${SILENT} suggestion. -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 20:44:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.skunk.org (unknown [207.25.53.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0759E14A09 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by mailhost.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07674; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:42:30 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:42:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Rosengart To: "John W. DeBoskey" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall manpage installation question In-Reply-To: <199906080256.WAA48269@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, John W. DeBoskey wrote: > ps: I am a heavy user of the scripted install process. I beleive we > could help our cause by better documenting how the process works > and providing some examples. As someone who is soon going to have to set up scripted installs, I would certainly love to see more documentation on this. > Along those lines, here is a .cfg file I use for a machine that I use > to test SNAPs on. Cool, thanks. -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 7 22: 1:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.50.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8950814C0F for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28751 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:51:23 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199906080451.NAA28751@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: My ATAPI CDROM will not work after update, both in ata driver and wd driver Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:51:22 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I updated my kernel code from src-cur.3894 to CTM src-cur.3906 and My CDROM drive is not recognized by kernel . Before update,cdrom is not recognized by 'ata' driver but by 'wd' driver, it is recognzied ,though it complains Jun 8 10:55:05 sana /kernel: atapi1.1: unknown phase . After the update, wdc1 is not recognized by the newly configured kernel. Then I try ATA driver. In ATA Driver ,it seems that the driver fails in MODE SENSE. Following messages is produced with kernel with ACD_DEBUG option. Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ata1: unwanted interrupt 1 status = 7f Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ata0: master: setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip OK Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad0: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as master Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad0: 3079MB (6306048 sectors), 6256 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad0: piomode=4, dmamode=2, udmamode=2 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad0: 16 secs/int, 0 depth queue, DMA mode Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ata0: slave: setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip OK Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad1: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as slave Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad1: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad1: piomode=4, dmamode=2, udmamode=2 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: ad1: 16 secs/int, 31 depth queue, DMA mode Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: acd: mode sense 0-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: acd: mode sense 0-1a-70-00-00-00-00-00-2a-12-03-00-71-00-29-00-10-8a-00-02-00-78-10-8a-00-00-00-00 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: acd: mode sense 0-1a-70-00-00-00-00-00-2a-12-03-00-71-00-29-00-10-8a-00-02-00-78-10-8a-00-00-00-00 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: acd: mode sense 0-1a-70-00-00-00-00-00-2a-12-03-00-71-00-29-00-10-8a-00-02-00-78-10-8a-00-00-00-00 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: acd: mode sense 0-1a-70-00-00-00-00-00-2a-12-03-00-71-00-29-00-10-8a-00-02-00-78-10-8a-00-00-00-00 Jun 8 12:10:06 sana /kernel.test: atapi: CDROM device at ata1 as slave - NO DRIVER! And by modifying the code, the mode_sense error seems to be 96(decimal). Any suggestions? Takanori Watanabe Public Key Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 1:38: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FE214F30 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:36:16 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (VOODOO [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id MKM83J0M; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:28:24 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10rHRv-000Jnk-00; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:41:35 +0100 To: "Andrew Reilly" Cc: Ben Rosengart , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 X-Colour: Green Organization: Palmer & Harvey McLane In-Reply-To: "Andrew Reilly"'s message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:39:07 +1000" <19990608093907.A85247@gurney.reilly.home> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:41:35 +0100 From: Dom Mitchell Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 8 June 1999, "Andrew Reilly" proclaimed: > Maybe 3.x users actually want tcpd too. I'm running -STABLE, and > qmail, and discovered that tcp_wrappers was somehow part of the > system when things started misbehaving. Oddly, tcpd itself is > _not_ built by the system, it seems. This is correct; there is no need for it, as the support for the wrappers was built directly into inetd. Check the CVS logs for inetd. > The libwrap that is built > (or at least the man page for tcpdchk) seems to think that the > control files hosts.access and hosts.deny still live in > /usr/local/etc/, rather than where you would expect a system > component to put them: /etc. My tcpdchk doesn't seem to have this problem; then again, I'm running -CURRENT. Maybe you have a version left over from the ports? Try seeing what order your MANPATH is set or doing "man -d tcpdchk". > My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports, > which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't > find any of it's log messages... I find that it's convenient to redirect all logging to a spare VT: --------[ /etc/syslogd.conf ]------------------------------------------- ... *.* /dev/ttyv7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That always lets you see what's going on. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Always think very hard before messing with TCP. And then don't." -- MC -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 1:55:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5AC14F30 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 01:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega. (dialup3-40.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.69.231]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09671; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:55:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06492; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:54:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <375CDA49.A61CC4F4@altavista.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:54:33 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@altavista.net Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,uk,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building www/en References: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Jeremy wrote: > Part of my regular rebuild is a `cd www/en; make -DENGLISH_ONLY' > > Lately, this has started failing due to the absence of > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog. This appears to be the > result of: > > >nik 1999/06/03 12:39:30 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > share/mk docproj.docbook.mk > > Log: > > Change ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} to point at the master catalog for all the > > DocBook DTDs, not just the 3.0 one. > > > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.5 +2 -2 doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk > > My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog? > It doesn't exist in any of the ports. # cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj # make all install Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 2: 5:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turing.mathematik.uni-ulm.de (turing.mathematik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B877A14F30 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuebart@mathematik.uni-ulm.de) Received: by turing.mathematik.uni-ulm.de (5.x/UniUlm-2.0m) id AA05715; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:00:37 +0200 From: kuebart@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Joachim Kuebart) Message-Id: <9906080900.AA05715@turing.mathematik.uni-ulm.de> Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:00:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906080142.VAA60319@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at "Jun 7, 99 09:42:28 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > Before documenting it, how about we fix it's name to be more accurate > to newcomers: net.inet.tcp.always_makedead, etc. There's no part of > this (in many cases misguided) mechanism that keeps anything "alive." I believe the rationale behind the nomenclature is to ``keep alive [connections]'', as opposed to keeping ``dead'' connections (whatever they are). cu Jo --------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Key is at What am I doing here? God, these people drinking milk! But the clothes they wear look rather cool to me. Joachim Kuebart I wear the same -- what am I doing here? Ulm, Germany --- Banana Fishbones To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 2:55:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rmx09.globecomm.net (rmx09.iname.net [165.251.8.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7C7150B8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davec@unforgettable.com) Received: from weba4.iname.net by rmx09.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA16419 ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:55:12 -0400 (EDT) From: davec@unforgettable.com Received: (from root@localhost) by weba4.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id FAA14471; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:55:11 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <990608055511CT.03322@weba4.iname.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD-Current Mailing list Subject: IPFilter on 4.0-curren and cdev bogus cdevsw? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been running IPFIlter on FreeBSD4.0-Current on my Pentium 233MMX box for a while now. And up until the middle of last week I haven't had any problems with it. I cvsup to the latest src tree everynight and make buildworld (done at 4am with a crontab entry), and every morning I would installworld, build new kernel, MAKEDEV all, and fastboot. Except last week on boot with the new kernel, I got: CPU: Pentium/P55C (239.83-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127258624 (124276K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030e000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug ipl: ERROR: driver has bogus cdevsw->d_maj = -1 It then continues booting till it got time to load the ipfilter rules. At which point I got: open device: Device not configured ioctl(SIOCADDFR): Bad file descriptor for every rule it tried to load. The system boots fine after that, and I get the same errors when I (as superuser) tried loading it by hand. Booting the system with kernel.old works fine, ipl loads, and so do the rules. I haven't heard anyone say anything regarding this in the mailing list recently, and a search through the online database comes up with nothing. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dave davec@unforgettable.com PS. While I'm here, anyone successfully loaded DOS 6.22 on bochs pass himem.sys? bochs would try to load himem.sys, but after a few minutes it'd close and put me back to the BSD prompt. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 3: 8: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EFF150B8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1/IP-3) with UUCP id NAA28322; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:58:08 +0400 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA01389; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:03:54 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199906081003.OAA01389@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:42:28 EDT." <199906080142.VAA60319@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:03:54 +0400 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Louis A. Mamakos" wrote: > > Before documenting it, how about we fix it's name to be more accurate > to newcomers: net.inet.tcp.always_makedead, etc. There's no part of > this (in many cases misguided) mechanism that keeps anything "alive." I disagree. I use keepalive exactly to keep my connections (mostly ssh sessions) alive. The sysadmin of our corporate LAN made our router drop all connections idle for 15 minutes or so. As I understand, the router send fake RST packets. The sysadmin believe that it increase security. I tried to convince him to not do it, I tried to kill him, but didn't succeed. So, now I set net.inet.tcp.keepidle to a really low value, and it keeps my connections alive! Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 5: 9:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fred.captive-data.com.au (fred.captive-data.com.au [203.56.35.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3555214BD3 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamesb@ircnet.com.au) Received: from ircnet.com.au (prt015.ircnet.com.au [203.56.35.144]) by fred.captive-data.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA29652 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:08:26 +1000 Message-ID: <375D09BE.106FCE46@ircnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 22:17:02 +1000 From: James X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 5:37:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (PHOENIX.ZER0.NET [199.166.246.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A099214ED5 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lh@PHOENIX.ZER0.NET) Received: (from lh@localhost) by PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00347 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:36:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lh) Message-Id: <199906081236.IAA00347@PHOENIX.ZER0.NET> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: lh@aus.org From: Luke To: current@freebsd.org Subject: AMD K6-2 CPUID output oddity Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on current from @jun3 I noticed something odd from dmesg: CPU: \^E (330.22-MHz 586-class CPU) It is a K6-2/300 set at 330, the wt_alloc stuff all shows up and nothing seems broken anywhere, just thought I'd mention it. Luke __________________________________ XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 5:38:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as10-058.rp-plus.de [149.221.236.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D8314ED5 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13374 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:36:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02153 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:36:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:36:53 +0200 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Reproduce of spontanous reboots Message-ID: <19990608143653.A335@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! The last 30 minutes I had two of these spontanous errors. That's a little strange - I had one some weeks ago. When I had it the last minutes, I was making install in /usr/ports/print/tetex-beta/ It was downloading teTeX-texmf-0.9-981113.tar.gz from ftp.freebsd.org while this. (btw, this port is quite old!) And this is a little strange. I'm quite sure that I was doing that, too, when I had the last reboot, TOO! Imagine that - I *never* had such reboots in the last weeks, but two times a day when downloading this package. This is a little strange. But that's not all. I have high cpu load while this. Today both times the following stuff was running when it reboots: * bladeenc (mp3-encoder, makes the load to 100%) * netscape * several rxvt's * icewm * XFree86 (SVGA, RivaTNT) * BitchX * mpg123 But this runs very often here and I have no problems. And, additionally, I was doing the make fetch for tetex-beta. Yes. Here is my machine: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Wed May 26 19:00:20 CEST 1999 alex@cichlids.cichlids.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/cichlids Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (300.68-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) sio0: system console avail memory = 126877696 (123904K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0399000. Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c3 [0xc3008c0e] Serial 0x1bae3b6c Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0 d041] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 chip0: at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pic0 pci1: on pcib1 vga-pci0: irq 7 at device 0.0 on pci1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 ide_pci0: at device 7.1 on pci0 chip1: at device 7.3 on pci0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:0f:66:6f xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) ed0: irq 11 at device 20.0 on pci0 ed0: address 00:00:b4:5e:fa:71, type NE2000 (16 bit) eisa0: on motherboard devclass_alloc_unit: ed0 already exists, using next available unit number isa0 on motherboard ie0: unknown board_id: f000 sb0 at port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa0 snd0: sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa0 snd0: sbmidi0 at port 0x330 on isa0 snd0: awe0 at port 0x220 on isa0 AWE32: not detected fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> at fdc0 drive 0 wdc0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xffffffff on isa0 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16, sleep-ha ck wd0: 6197MB (12692736 sectors), 13431 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis wcd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 2048KB cache wcd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA wcd0: supported write types: CD-R, test write wcd0: Audio: play, 2 volume levels wcd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray wcd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked wdc1 at port 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xffffffff on isa0 wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16, sleep-hack wd2: 1033MB (2116800 sectors), 2240 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis wcd1: drive speed 5511KB/sec, 120KB cache wcd1: supported read types: CD-DA wcd1: Audio: play, 255 volume levels wcd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray wcd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked atkbdc0: at port 0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio2: not probed (disabled) sio3: not probed (disabled) ie0: unknown board_id: f000 changing root device to wd0s1a Today my xl0 seemed to make problems, I had such errors as following and then I rebooted, because they always re-appeared after a ifconfig down up ( I never had this before). Then some minutes all was ok that again these errors. This was the time when today I started the make install for tetex-beta for the first time. (Before the first reboot I just heard mp3, made bladeenc (both over NFS!) and read mail) I paste the important /var/log/messages parts here: Jun 8 12:09:36 cichlids /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or i ncrease maxusers! Jun 8 12:09:36 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Jun 8 12:10:12 cichlids last message repeated 32 times Jun 8 12:11:14 cichlids last message repeated 25 times Jun 8 12:11:19 cichlids /kernel: nfs server neutron:/usr/home/mp3: not respondi ng Jun 8 12:11:19 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Jun 8 12:11:34 cichlids last message repeated 12 times Jun 8 12:11:45 cichlids /kernel: nfs server neutron:/usr/home/mp3: not respondi ng Jun 8 12:11:45 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Jun 8 12:11:45 cichlids last message repeated 5 times Jun 8 12:11:51 cichlids /kernel: nfs server neutron:/usr/home/mp3: is alive aga in Jun 8 12:11:51 cichlids /kernel: nfs server neutron:/usr/home/mp3: is alive aga in Jun 8 12:35:11 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Jun 8 12:35:32 cichlids last message repeated 28 times Jun 8 12:58:22 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! Jun 8 12:58:43 cichlids last message repeated 67 times Jun 8 13:06:52 cichlids syslogd: exiting on signal 15 [manual reboot, see above!] Jun 8 13:24:38 cichlids /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or i ncrease maxusers! Jun 8 13:24:38 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! [First reboot, just screen black, VGA BIOS appears (as a reset)] [boot messages, some time stable while I tried to reproduce the reboot, starting again the download etc] Jun 8 13:48:18 cichlids /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or i ncrease maxusers! Jun 8 13:48:18 cichlids /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet dropped! [second reboot, again just screen black] While both reboots I've been in X. I really hope this is only a problem of NMBCLUSTERS or maxusers (which I don't set extra, NMBCLUSTERs isn't in my kernel-configfile and maxusers is 32 (as in GENERIC). But maybe this helps. I'll try to reproduce it again now :) Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 6: 8:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549CE15012 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01339; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28926; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24413; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:07:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199906081307.GAA24413@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:07:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney "Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ?" (Jun 5, 5:43pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: John-Mark Gurney , Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jun 5, 5:43pm, John-Mark Gurney wrote: } Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? } Garrett Wollman scribbled this message on Jun 5: } > < said: } > } > > FWIW, I think only a fool would want a computer to NOT drop dead connections. } > > Any "connection" that doesn't respond after 8 $^&! tries spaced FAR apart does } > > NOT deserve to stay. } > } > If they are spaced too far apart, it is possible for perfectly } > legitimate connections to get shot down as a result of external } > periodicities. (Does somebody's router reset every day at 2:45? If } > so, better hope no keepalives are scheduled for then!) } } yes, but are routers normally down for a couple hours?? if they are, } you have other problems than worring about connections... We've lost our T1 to the world for up to twelve hours. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 7:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B485214F69 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega. (dialup1-22.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.149]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14806 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:16:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07735 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:15:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <375D258E.FCAB01B6@altavista.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:15:42 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@altavista.net Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,uk,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Quiestion about /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody know any legacy way to upgrade ld-elf.so.1 when making world or it always should be reinstalled manually? Maxim -- "We believe in the Power and the Might!" (Manowar, 1996) ---------------------------------------- Maxim V. Sobolev, Financial Analyst, Vega International Capital Phone: +380-(44)-246-6396 Fax: +380-(44)-220-8715 E-mail: sobomax@altavista.net ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 7:23:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A869114D6A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega. (dialup2-60.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.251]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15503 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:24:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07765 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <375D2756.38AAE5C@altavista.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:23:18 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@altavista.net Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,uk,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Man troubles! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just completed fresh make world and discovered that man isn't functional: $ man man bad ctype locale env: Invalid argument Does anybody know what going wrong? Maxim -- "We believe in the Power and the Might!" (Manowar, 1996) ---------------------------------------- Maxim V. Sobolev, Financial Analyst, Vega International Capital Phone: +380-(44)-246-6396 Fax: +380-(44)-220-8715 E-mail: sobomax@altavista.net ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 7:30:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19AF14F69 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00449; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:29:25 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:29:25 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Man troubles! Message-ID: <19990608182925.B385@nagual.pp.ru> References: <375D2756.38AAE5C@altavista.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <375D2756.38AAE5C@altavista.net>; from sobomax@altavista.net on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:23:18PM +0300 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:23:18PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Just completed fresh make world and discovered that man isn't > functional: > > $ man man > bad ctype locale env: Invalid argument > > Does anybody know what going wrong? Tell me values of LANG or LC_CTYPE environment variables you set. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 7:35:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2378E14D86 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA78215 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906081435.KAA78215@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? In-Reply-To: from Dom Mitchell at "Jun 8, 1999 09:41:35 am" To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dom Mitchell once wrote: > This is correct; there is no need for it, as the support for the > wrappers was built directly into inetd. Check the CVS logs for inetd. Are not there any other uses for it? Like "xinetd"? If everything else (the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd as well? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 7:43:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E02B14D86 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id RAA09278; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:42:59 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D496F1F96; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:42:52 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:42:52 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Don Lewis Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? Message-ID: <19990608174252.A25205@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <199906081307.GAA24413@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906081307.GAA24413@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com>; from Don Lewis on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 06:07:23AM -0700 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 06:07:23AM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > } yes, but are routers normally down for a couple hours?? if they are, > } you have other problems than worring about connections... > > We've lost our T1 to the world for up to twelve hours. Well, we had lightning storm yesterday and lost our T1 connectivity for 17 hours... not to mention other equipment :(( It wasn't our fault, the communication to telco suddenly disappeared.. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 8:27:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F349314E6B; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:28:44 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179644@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: 'Chuck Robey' , itojun@iijlab.net Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "'freebsd-chat@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: wide char support Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:06:38 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Robey [SMTP:chuckr@picnic.mat.net] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:32 PM > To: itojun@iijlab.net > Cc: David E. Cross; freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: wide char support > > May you both live in interesting times! [ML] No, not that curse! Everyone, flee the Agatean Empire! /Marino To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 8:38: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10D114E6B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179646@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: 'Peter Jeremy' , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Building www/en Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:57:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Jeremy [SMTP:jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:41 PM > To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Building www/en > > Part of my regular rebuild is a `cd www/en; make -DENGLISH_ONLY' > > My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog > ? > It doesn't exist in any of the ports. > [ML] IIRC, mkdir /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog should suffice. It's been a while, though, since I've had a FreeBSD box with SGML toolchain. > Peter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 11:23:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D751D14C46 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norn@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3588D145C; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:18 -0700 From: Chris Piazza To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Man troubles! Message-ID: <19990608112318.A1417@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <375D2756.38AAE5C@altavista.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <375D2756.38AAE5C@altavista.net>; from Maxim Sobolev on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:23:18PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD norn.ca.eu.org 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 05:23:18PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Just completed fresh make world and discovered that man isn't > functional: > > $ man man > bad ctype locale env: Invalid argument > > Does anybody know what going wrong? > Yeah, it happened during ache's commit to src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man/man.c. date: 1999/06/07 18:35:58; author: ache; state: Exp; lines: +152 -0 Add ability to read/write localized manpages I haven't seriously looked at it to see why it never works if you don't use localized man pages(etc). As a work around you can alias man="man -o" -- Chris Piazza Abbotsford, BC, Canada cpiazza@home.net finger norn@norn.ca.eu.org for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 11:23:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EB9153E8 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA37713; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906081823.LAA37713@apollo.backplane.com> To: Don Lewis Cc: John-Mark Gurney , Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <199906081307.GAA24413@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :} you have other problems than worring about connections... : :We've lost our T1 to the world for up to twelve hours. And at the time, which was more important: Getting the T1 back up, or keeping all those idle xterm's around? If it were my T1 that went down, I wouldn't give a damn whether the idle xterm's went away or not. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 11:57: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3725151BE for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id VAA17076; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:56:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 817BB1F96; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:56:49 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:56:49 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Don Lewis , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? Message-ID: <19990608215649.A26265@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <199906081307.GAA24413@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> <199906081823.LAA37713@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906081823.LAA37713@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 11:23:26AM -0700 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 11:23:26AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :We've lost our T1 to the world for up to twelve hours. > > And at the time, which was more important: Getting the T1 back up, or > keeping all those idle xterm's around? If it were my T1 that went down, > I wouldn't give a damn whether the idle xterm's went away or not. Sure :) -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 12:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D050514DBF for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13984 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: GNU patch gone stale Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to 2.5? If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is broken for certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 works fine. Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___)___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 12:27:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from deep-thought.demos.su (deep-thought.demos.su [194.87.1.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D265714DBF for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@deep-thought.demos.su) Received: (from ache@localhost) by deep-thought.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03122; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:27:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:27:29 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Brian Feldman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale Message-ID: <19990608232729.A3093@nagual.pp.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from green@unixhelp.org on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 03:20:19PM -0400 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 03:20:19PM -0400, Brian Feldman wrote: > Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to 2.5? > If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is broken for > certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 works > fine. GNU patch 2.5 already in contrib/patch but there was strong opposition in core team to make it default when I try to bring it in, please search for related discussion in FreeBSD mailing lists. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 12:33:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0C6150E7 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14216; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-Reply-To: <19990608232729.A3093@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 03:20:19PM -0400, Brian Feldman wrote: > > Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to 2.5? > > If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is broken for > > certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 works > > fine. > > GNU patch 2.5 already in contrib/patch but there was strong opposition in > core team to make it default when I try to bring it in, please search for > related discussion in FreeBSD mailing lists. Time to reopen that can of worms. It is _not_ appropriate for FreeBSD to be using obsolete versions of anything, especially when found that the old versions are buggy. > > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ > MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___)___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 13:11: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3714F20 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA27485 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA20026; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:10:30 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA58472 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:10:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199906082010.QAA58472@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: make release fixit floppy out of space To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:10:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, So, what do we get to chop out of the already miniscule system today? This has been happenning for the last 3 days... Thanks, John Making fixit floppy. disklabel: ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 6. Warning: 1216 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rvn0c: 2880 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 1.4MB in 1 cyl groups (6 c/g, 12.00MB/g, 736 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, cpio: write error: No space left on device *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ---> Tue Jun 8 12:14:07 EDT 1999 - build of 4.0-19990608-SNAP was an abject failure. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 14:19:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E6D14C18 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA01551; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:27 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building www/en Message-ID: <19990608221327.A1156@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au>; from Peter Jeremy on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog? > It doesn't exist in any of the ports. It's created by the post-install target of ports/textproc/docbook. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 14:25: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901C6153CC for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA12959; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:24:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca13-177.ix.netcom.com(209.109.238.177) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma012850; Tue Jun 8 16:24:16 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id OAA80177; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906082123.OAA80177@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Cc: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990608221327.A1156@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> (message from Nik Clayton on Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:27 +0100) Subject: Re: Building www/en From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au> <19990608221327.A1156@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Nik Clayton * On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: * > My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog? * > It doesn't exist in any of the ports. * * It's created by the post-install target of ports/textproc/docbook. Is it arranged to work for packages too? -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 14:47: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tahiti.oss.uswest.net (tahiti.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EB815278 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pmckenna@uswest.net) Received: from otto.oss.uswest.net (otto.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.81]) by tahiti.oss.uswest.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA17629; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:46:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pmckenna@uswest.net) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199906080256.WAA48269@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:47:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Pete Mckenna To: "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: scripted install( was sysinstall manpage inst) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Jun-99 John W. DeBoskey wrote: > Hi, > > I have a -current machine which I use to run a: > > cd /usr/src && make world && cd release && make release > > every night. > > On this machine, the sysinstall manpage is not installed onto > the system during make world. > > % man sysinstall > No manual entry for sysinstall > % chroot /snap/release /bin/sh ># man sysinstall > SYSINSTALL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual > SYSINSTALL(8) > > NAME > sysinstall - system installation and configuration tool > > > etc, etc, etc. > > > It seems to me, that during a make world, we should build sysinstall > into /stand(or elsewhere), and install the manpage in the appropriate > location. > > comments? critiques? > > > Thanks, > John > > > ps: I am a heavy user of the scripted install process. I beleive we > could help our cause by better documenting how the process works > and providing some examples. Along those lines, here is a .cfg > file I use for a machine that I use to test SNAPs on. This is > an incredible time saving facility. John, Could you elaborate on where this file needs to be during the make release and if it is then automatically run by sysinstall or what else needs to be done to enable the script to be run. I'm running 3.2 but I assume it's similar. Also, can it be named *.cfg as the above seems to indicate or does it need to be named install.cfg. Thanks much Pete > > > Notes: noError=True is not documented. See dispatch.c line 311 > _ftpPath= is not documented. Appears to be an internal > vs. external naming scheme. Not sure... > See 1.157 of sysinstall.h, int dirty;. > > > ># gigabit1.cfg ># ># FreeBSD Installation Config file for gigabit1.unx.sas.com ># ># This file generated on 05/06/99 15:23:16 ># > > debug=yes > > ipaddr=10.26.1.231 > hostname=gigabit1.unx.sas.com > domainname=unx.sas.com > defaultrouter=10.26.0.1 > netmask=255.255.0.0 > > ># ----- End of generated information ----- > > netDev=fxp0 > ftp=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD > _ftpPath=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD > nameserver=10.16.149.6 > mediaSetFTP > distSetEverything > > disk=wd0 > partition=exclusive > diskPartitionEditor > ># 512 Meg swap partition > wd0s1-1=swap 1048576 none > ># 1 Gig /tmp partition > wd0s1-2=ufs 2097152 /tmp > ># 256 Meg /root partition > wd0s1-3=ufs 524288 / > ># 256 Meg /var partition > wd0s1-4=ufs 524288 /var > ># all remaining space for /usr partition > wd0s1-5=ufs 0 /usr > > diskLabelEditor > > installCommit > > > > package=bash-2.03 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=elm-2.4ME+54 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=emacs-20.3 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=jpeg-6b > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=less-337 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=linux_lib-2.6.1 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=mm-2.7 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > package=pdksh-5.2.13 > noError=TRUE > packageAdd > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Pete Mckenna Date: 08-Jun-99 Time: 16:33:03 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 18:49: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76D01565F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:49:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdean@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA12311; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dean.pc.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA08795; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:48:27 -0400 Received: (from brdean@localhost) by dean.pc.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA99354; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:48:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brdean) From: Brian Dean Message-Id: <199906090148.VAA99354@dean.pc.sas.com> Subject: Re: scripted install( was sysinstall manpage inst) In-Reply-To: from Pete Mckenna at "Jun 8, 1999 4:47:10 pm" To: pmckenna@uswest.net (Pete Mckenna) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pete, I am usually installing many machines at a time, and to save time, I've put together a simple script that generates the included config file based on the machine's name. We can do this because our machines are all configured identically with the exception of the name and IP address. Once you have the config file(s), you need to put them on a UFS floppy. I usually just copy them onto the same floppy that I dd'd the mfsroot.flp image onto, i.e., dd the mfsroot.flp image onto the floppy, mount the floppy, then copy your config files onto it. After you boot the install process, at the main menu, just select the "Load Config File" option (or something like that), and enter the name of the config file you want to use, which in my case is .cfg. -Brian -- Brian Dean brdean@unx.sas.com Process Engineering The SAS Institute Inc. > > On 08-Jun-99 John W. DeBoskey wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a -current machine which I use to run a: > > > > cd /usr/src && make world && cd release && make release > > > > every night. > > > > On this machine, the sysinstall manpage is not installed onto > > the system during make world. > > > > % man sysinstall > > No manual entry for sysinstall > > % chroot /snap/release /bin/sh > ># man sysinstall > > SYSINSTALL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual > > SYSINSTALL(8) > > > > NAME > > sysinstall - system installation and configuration tool > > > > > > etc, etc, etc. > > > > > > It seems to me, that during a make world, we should build sysinstall > > into /stand(or elsewhere), and install the manpage in the appropriate > > location. > > > > comments? critiques? > > > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > > ps: I am a heavy user of the scripted install process. I beleive we > > could help our cause by better documenting how the process works > > and providing some examples. Along those lines, here is a .cfg > > file I use for a machine that I use to test SNAPs on. This is > > an incredible time saving facility. > > John, > > Could you elaborate on where this file needs to be during the make release and > if it is then automatically run by sysinstall or what else needs to be done to > enable the script to be run. I'm running 3.2 but I assume it's similar. > Also, can it be named *.cfg as the above seems to indicate or does it need to be > named install.cfg. > > Thanks much > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Notes: noError=True is not documented. See dispatch.c line 311 > > _ftpPath= is not documented. Appears to be an internal > > vs. external naming scheme. Not sure... > > See 1.157 of sysinstall.h, int dirty;. > > > > > > > ># gigabit1.cfg > ># > ># FreeBSD Installation Config file for gigabit1.unx.sas.com > ># > ># This file generated on 05/06/99 15:23:16 > ># > > > > debug=yes > > > > ipaddr=10.26.1.231 > > hostname=gigabit1.unx.sas.com > > domainname=unx.sas.com > > defaultrouter=10.26.0.1 > > netmask=255.255.0.0 > > > > > ># ----- End of generated information ----- > > > > netDev=fxp0 > > ftp=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD > > _ftpPath=ftp://freebsd.pc.sas.com/pub/FreeBSD > > nameserver=10.16.149.6 > > mediaSetFTP > > distSetEverything > > > > disk=wd0 > > partition=exclusive > > diskPartitionEditor > > > ># 512 Meg swap partition > > wd0s1-1=swap 1048576 none > > > ># 1 Gig /tmp partition > > wd0s1-2=ufs 2097152 /tmp > > > ># 256 Meg /root partition > > wd0s1-3=ufs 524288 / > > > ># 256 Meg /var partition > > wd0s1-4=ufs 524288 /var > > > ># all remaining space for /usr partition > > wd0s1-5=ufs 0 /usr > > > > diskLabelEditor > > > > installCommit > > > > > > > > package=bash-2.03 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=elm-2.4ME+54 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=emacs-20.3 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=jpeg-6b > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=less-337 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=linux_lib-2.6.1 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=mm-2.7 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > package=pdksh-5.2.13 > > noError=TRUE > > packageAdd > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Pete Mckenna > Date: 08-Jun-99 > Time: 16:33:03 > > This message was sent by XFMail > ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 18:55: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.atl.bellsouth.net (mail2.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A2E15B34 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-209-214-66-15.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.66.15]) by mail2.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07294; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA10697; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:57:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199906090157.VAA10697@bellsouth.net> To: Brian Feldman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:20:19 EDT." Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:57:19 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to 2.5? > If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is broken > for certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 > works fine. The gimp patch situation offers a good example why having contrib'ified things backed by a corresponding port can be a Good Thing. Naturally, using the updated version in ports/devel/patch is an easy workaround until you get contrib updated. (We've encountered this here too) Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 19: 8:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46481547F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02994; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: W Gerald Hicks Cc: Brian Feldman , current@FreeBSD.ORG, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-Reply-To: <199906090157.VAA10697@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to 2.5? > > If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is broken > > for certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 > > works fine. > > The gimp patch situation offers a good example why having contrib'ified > things backed by a corresponding port can be a Good Thing. > > Naturally, using the updated version in ports/devel/patch is an easy > workaround until you get contrib updated. (We've encountered this > here too) I can't remember why, but you darn well better not just update patch without seeing how it works with cvs. It was discussed before in current, and there's a good reason why it's where it is. If you don't want a lot of people screaming at you, better do some homework first. If I find it first, I'll send it to you. > > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > wghicks@bellsouth.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic and jaunt, both FreeBSD-current. (301) 220-2114 | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 20:12:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620DA14FC5 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-156-218.s67.as2.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.156.218]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24355; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906090314.XAA24355@smtp2.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 23:12:04 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale Cc: wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Feldman , W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Jun-99 Chuck Robey wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote: > >> > Our GNU patch has gone stale in the tree. Anyone want to upgrade it to >> > 2.5? >> > If not, I'll do it myself eventually. Patch 2.1 which we have now is >> > broken >> > for certain diffs (recently tried with gimp 1.1.5-1.1.6 diffs), while 2.5 >> > works fine. >> >> The gimp patch situation offers a good example why having contrib'ified >> things backed by a corresponding port can be a Good Thing. >> >> Naturally, using the updated version in ports/devel/patch is an easy >> workaround until you get contrib updated. (We've encountered this >> here too) > > I can't remember why, but you darn well better not just update patch > without seeing how it works with cvs. It was discussed before in > current, and there's a good reason why it's where it is. From /usr/src/contrib/cvs/NEWS: * The client no longer needs an external patch program (assuming both the client and the server have been updated to the new version). So it would seem that patch and cvs don't interact at all, unless it's a question of patch 2.5 being able to apply diffs generated by cvs diff. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 8 21:41:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-77.camalott.com [208.229.74.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8B14CFF for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06058; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:41:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Garrett Wollman , Brian Feldman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <199906052344.TAA19843@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060057.UAA20103@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060626.XAA17701@apollo.backplane.com> From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 08 Jun 1999 23:41:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: Matthew Dillon's message of "Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:26:28 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <86d7z6j89k.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 75 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> This wouldn't help the poor sod whose connection gets shot down every >> eight days while he's not there and doesn't know what hit him. > If the poor sod hasn't touched his xterm for 8 days, he's either dead > or he doesn't care if it goes away. Again, Matt, with all due respect, please do not post your operational habits as universals. Somebody who keeps a session to a server around so they can see syslog messages if there's a problem may have an idle connection for weeks. In case you still doubt the existance of such a person, I give you a counterexample. Having just spoken with nemo, I am quite certain that he is alive and well, and from my dealings with him have no doubt he would become somewhat miffed if I were to kill off several of his sessions. Cheers, joelh detlev$ finger nemo@[deleted] [[deleted]] Login: nemo Name: Joel N. Weber II Directory: /gb/nemo Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash On since Thu Jun 03 23:49 (EDT) on tty1 2 days 3 hours idle On since Wed May 19 14:43 (EDT) on tty2 27 minutes 34 seconds idle On since Sun May 30 22:24 (EDT) on tty3 2 days 1 hour idle On since Sun May 30 22:27 (EDT) on tty4 2 days 3 hours idle On since Mon May 31 00:15 (EDT) on tty5 2 days 1 hour idle On since Mon May 31 16:07 (EDT) on tty6 2 hours 40 minutes idle On since Fri Jun 04 20:58 (EDT) on tty7 3 days 1 hour idle On since Fri Jun 04 22:28 (EDT) on tty13 2 days 3 hours idle On since Sat Jun 05 17:05 (EDT) on tty14 2 days 1 hour idle On since Sat Jun 05 15:25 (EDT) on tty15 2 days 2 hours idle On since Sat Jun 05 21:59 (EDT) on tty16 2 days 3 hours idle On since Sat Jun 05 22:11 (EDT) on tty17 3 days 2 hours idle On since Sat Jun 05 00:26 (EDT) on tty18 2 days 12 hours idle On since Sun Jun 06 19:15 (EDT) on tty19 2 days 1 hour idle On since Wed May 19 15:57 (EDT) on ttyp0 from xanthine:0.0 10 days 1 hour idle On since Wed May 19 15:58 (EDT) on ttyp1 from xanthine:0.0 10 days 1 hour idle On since Wed May 19 16:11 (EDT) on ttyp2 from xanthine:0.0 12 days 23 hours idle On since Wed May 19 16:45 (EDT) on ttyp3 from xanthine:0.0 15 days 21 hours idle On since Wed May 19 17:29 (EDT) on ttyp4 from xanthine:0.0 9 days 23 hours idle On since Wed May 19 17:43 (EDT) on ttyp5 from xanthine:0.0 10 days 2 hours idle On since Wed May 19 17:44 (EDT) on ttyp6 from xanthine:0.0 9 days 23 hours idle On since Wed May 19 18:09 (EDT) on ttyp7 from xanthine:0.0 15 days 21 hours idle On since Thu May 20 20:20 (EDT) on ttyp8 from xanthine:0.0 19 days idle On since Wed May 19 18:35 (EDT) on ttyp9 from xanthine:0.0 16 days 22 hours idle On since Wed May 19 21:54 (EDT) on ttypa from xanthine:0.0 20 days 2 hours idle On since Thu May 20 16:06 (EDT) on ttypb from xanthine:0.0 16 days 2 hours idle On since Thu May 20 21:05 (EDT) on ttypc from xanthine:0.0 9 days 10 hours idle On since Thu May 20 23:51 (EDT) on ttypd from xanthine:0.0 18 days 20 hours idle Last login Mon Jun 07 19:22 (EDT) on ttypf from zygorthian-space New mail received Wed Jun 09 00:29 1999 (EDT) Unread since Wed Jun 09 00:00 1999 (EDT) No Plan. -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 0:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6531714DFE; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA15440; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:03:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:03:09 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building www/en Message-ID: <19990609000309.A15272@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <99Jun8.072500est.40321@border.alcanet.com.au> <19990608221327.A1156@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <199906082123.OAA80177@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906082123.OAA80177@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 02:23:56PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 02:23:56PM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: Nik Clayton > > * On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > * > My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog? > * > It doesn't exist in any of the ports. > * > * It's created by the post-install target of ports/textproc/docbook. > > Is it arranged to work for packages too? Err, absolutely no idea. I'll read up on the appropriate manual pages ASAP. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 4:15:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404B815401 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA28241; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:15:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: Matthew Dillon , Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? In-Reply-To: <86d7z6j89k.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 8 Jun 1999, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> This wouldn't help the poor sod whose connection gets shot down every > >> eight days while he's not there and doesn't know what hit him. > > If the poor sod hasn't touched his xterm for 8 days, he's either dead > > or he doesn't care if it goes away. > > Again, Matt, with all due respect, please do not post your operational > habits as universals. Somebody who keeps a session to a server around > so they can see syslog messages if there's a problem may have an idle > connection for weeks. If he sees syslog messages, that's not idle. > > In case you still doubt the existance of such a person, I give you a > counterexample. Having just spoken with nemo, I am quite certain that > he is alive and well, and from my dealings with him have no doubt he > would become somewhat miffed if I were to kill off several of his > sessions. > > Cheers, > joelh > > detlev$ finger nemo@[deleted] > [[deleted]] > Login: nemo Name: Joel N. Weber II > Directory: /gb/nemo Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash > On since Thu Jun 03 23:49 (EDT) on tty1 2 days 3 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 14:43 (EDT) on tty2 27 minutes 34 seconds idle > On since Sun May 30 22:24 (EDT) on tty3 2 days 1 hour idle > On since Sun May 30 22:27 (EDT) on tty4 2 days 3 hours idle > On since Mon May 31 00:15 (EDT) on tty5 2 days 1 hour idle > On since Mon May 31 16:07 (EDT) on tty6 2 hours 40 minutes idle > On since Fri Jun 04 20:58 (EDT) on tty7 3 days 1 hour idle > On since Fri Jun 04 22:28 (EDT) on tty13 2 days 3 hours idle > On since Sat Jun 05 17:05 (EDT) on tty14 2 days 1 hour idle > On since Sat Jun 05 15:25 (EDT) on tty15 2 days 2 hours idle > On since Sat Jun 05 21:59 (EDT) on tty16 2 days 3 hours idle > On since Sat Jun 05 22:11 (EDT) on tty17 3 days 2 hours idle > On since Sat Jun 05 00:26 (EDT) on tty18 2 days 12 hours idle > On since Sun Jun 06 19:15 (EDT) on tty19 2 days 1 hour idle > On since Wed May 19 15:57 (EDT) on ttyp0 from xanthine:0.0 > 10 days 1 hour idle > On since Wed May 19 15:58 (EDT) on ttyp1 from xanthine:0.0 > 10 days 1 hour idle > On since Wed May 19 16:11 (EDT) on ttyp2 from xanthine:0.0 > 12 days 23 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 16:45 (EDT) on ttyp3 from xanthine:0.0 > 15 days 21 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 17:29 (EDT) on ttyp4 from xanthine:0.0 > 9 days 23 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 17:43 (EDT) on ttyp5 from xanthine:0.0 > 10 days 2 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 17:44 (EDT) on ttyp6 from xanthine:0.0 > 9 days 23 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 18:09 (EDT) on ttyp7 from xanthine:0.0 > 15 days 21 hours idle > On since Thu May 20 20:20 (EDT) on ttyp8 from xanthine:0.0 > 19 days idle > On since Wed May 19 18:35 (EDT) on ttyp9 from xanthine:0.0 > 16 days 22 hours idle > On since Wed May 19 21:54 (EDT) on ttypa from xanthine:0.0 > 20 days 2 hours idle > On since Thu May 20 16:06 (EDT) on ttypb from xanthine:0.0 > 16 days 2 hours idle > On since Thu May 20 21:05 (EDT) on ttypc from xanthine:0.0 > 9 days 10 hours idle > On since Thu May 20 23:51 (EDT) on ttypd from xanthine:0.0 > 18 days 20 hours idle > Last login Mon Jun 07 19:22 (EDT) on ttypf from zygorthian-space > New mail received Wed Jun 09 00:29 1999 (EDT) > Unread since Wed Jun 09 00:00 1999 (EDT) > No Plan. > > -- > Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org > Fourth law of programming: > Anything that can go wrong wi > sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___)___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 4:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CD415266 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 10rgro-000FCa-00 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:50:00 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:50:00 +0200 Message-ID: <58439.928929000@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, This thread has degenerated into the kind of dick-waving that suggests to the responsible list member that it's no longer worth participation. If you have nothing to say, there are many of us who would be in your debt if you'd be so kind as to say it. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 4:53:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928ED15453 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by noc.demon.net; id MAA16012; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:53:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xma015987; Wed, 9 Jun 99 12:52:57 +0100 Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 10rgu2-00072e-00; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:52:19 +0100 To: jobaldwi@vt.edu From: Tony Finch Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-Reply-To: <199906090314.XAA24355@smtp2.erols.com> References: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:52:19 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > >So it would seem that patch and cvs don't interact at all, unless it's a >question of patch 2.5 being able to apply diffs generated by cvs diff. That is the main problem I have with patch 2.5 -- it completely fails to apply patches from `cvs diff` unless you have a really new cvs, and I usually don't. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net black dog To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 8:26:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0D81507E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA02483 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:26:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906091526.LAA02483@misha.cisco.com> Subject: IBM To Buy Whistle, Maker Of Web Servers To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry, if this is not the best place to ask, but I know several Whistle people are active FreeBSD contributors. Does the announcement in Subject, see also (I hate long URLs): http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=v/nm/19990609/tc/ibm_whistle_1.html mean, IBM is to offer FreeBSD on their machines? Perhaps, it will be a "black box", but with FreeBSD inside it, secretly ;-) ? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 10:28:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E0F14D23; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA95797; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:28:51 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:28:51 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Over the past week and a bit, the INN -CURRENT source tree had a major upheaval of code, in order to fix the major problem where reader speed sucked. What used to take >1min to load up a newsgruop now generally takes mere seconds (no exaggeration, try it)... The problem is that the new code makes *heavy* use of MMAP() ... When the code was put in place, I immediately upgraded my server to give the code a good test (am one of the developers over there) in a production environment, and ever since then, my system locks up around 24hrs uptime, requiring a cold boot. I cannot get into DDB, since I'm over a serial console, so debugging this has proved to be next to impossible :( After discussing this with a few other FreeBSD'rs who have seen similar problems, the point got brought up that it was believed there was still a problem with our MMAP() implementation ... basically where it could still cause a race condition to be generated ... Since this problem is crucial to the stability of my server, as well as anyone that keeps up on INN, I'm curious as to whether or not there are any known problems with MMAP(), and, if so...what can I do to help rectify the problem? I run CURRENT at home and STABLE in production, but the production server is the only one that I believe has enough load on her to be able to trigger it... Is this a problem that is fixed in CURRENT, but hasn't migrated down into STABLE? Is there any way of adding some sort of debug code to STABLE such that if the race condition is trigger, it will at least pop up a message onto the console letting me know its happened so that I know its MMAP() related? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 10:51:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE31414E2A; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA96276; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:51:45 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:51:44 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Richard Michael Todd Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, inn-workers@isc.org Subject: Re: use of MMAP in new INN code... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CC'ng your suggestion to the 'kernel wizards'...right now, the only thing I have to work with is the fact that the problems started right after I upgraded INN to the new code...the rest is basically trying to followup suggestions... On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Richard Michael Todd wrote: > In message you write: > > > >I'm currently investigating a problem with my server that > >coincedentally(sp?) started right after I upgraded INN to what we > >currently have... > > > >Someone *just* suggested that they thought that 3.2-STABLE of FreeBSD > >still has a slight bug in MMAP that causes a race condition...it just > >clued into me that Richard(?) sent out that response to me about Clayton > >using mmap() more now in nnrpd to share active? > > It's actually sharing the group.index file, as well as mmap()ing the .IDX > and .DAT files when needed. It'd require a lot of work to implement a > non-mmap version of the code. Given that people like Matt Dillon are > interested in working on the FreeBSD VM code, it's probably easier just to > get him to fix mmap() on FreeBSD. :-) > > FWIW, I haven't seen any problems like that on 3.1-STABLE, but I may > just not have enough reader load to trigger it. The use of mmap() in > the ov3.c code isn't anything terribly exotic (i.e. not too different > from, say, how cnfs.c or dbz uses it), and the group.index file is > only a couple meg. The ov3.c code does do a lot of byte-range locking > of the group.index file, though; have you and the FreeBSD kernel > wizards considered the possibility that it may be the byte-range > fcntl() locking code that's the problem? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 10:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AB315184; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (phoenix.cs.rpi.edu [128.113.96.153]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA34746; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906091754.NAA34746@cs.rpi.edu> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message from The Hermit Hacker of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:28:51 -0300." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:54:55 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe I stumbled over this as well. (As a side note, you can run DDB over a serial console too, just compile with DDB, and DDB_UNATTENDED so your system will come back if it unexpectedly panics; on the serial console send a 'break'). Anyway, I have a simple program that mmap()s a 1Gig file into memory, madvise()s it that it will be doing random access. If I quit and restart this program a couple of times (yes, it close()s and munmap()s the segment), my system will hard lock. By dropping into DDB once I found that it was stuck in 'vm_somethingorother_choosepage'. Does this ring any bells? Should I try to stop my system again? -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 11:11:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAD014F75; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA96589; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:11:43 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:11:43 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: <199906091754.NAA34746@cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > I believe I stumbled over this as well. (As a side note, you can run DDB > over a serial console too, just compile with DDB, and DDB_UNATTENDED so your > system will come back if it unexpectedly panics; on the serial console send > a 'break'). And today's trick question...how do you send a break? :( I'm telnet'd into a Livingston Portmaster, with 'telnet -E' to disable the telnet break...I have DDB and DDB_UNATTENDED enabled and running right now, so if I can get this break issue working, then I'm all set for the next time if it happens :) > Anyway, I have a simple program that mmap()s a 1Gig file into memory, > madvise()s it that it will be doing random access. If I quit and restart > this program a couple of times (yes, it close()s and munmap()s the segment), > my system will hard lock. By dropping into DDB once I found that it was > stuck in 'vm_somethingorother_choosepage'. Does this ring any bells? Should > I try to stop my system again? Just to prepare myself, if/when I get that break to work...you just did a 'trace', or is there something else I'll want to do in DDB? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 11:35:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F1A14E11; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (phoenix.cs.rpi.edu [128.113.96.153]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA35583; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906091835.OAA35583@cs.rpi.edu> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message from The Hermit Hacker of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:11:43 -0300." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:35:48 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG by "break" I mean a serial break condition. Take the Tx line out of your box and bring it negative 3-5 volts for a short time, that will be a break. Seriously, the break will need to be sent from the piece of equipment that is connected to the other end of the serial line. It isn't a telnet issue at all. There should be a way to drop into a command mode on the livingston (I have never used one, so I don't know how), and send a RS-232 break to the remote side. After that go back to terminal mode, you should be at a DDB prompt. "trace" should give you what we want to see. Also, if you can configure 'dumpon' and 'savecore' (man savecore, see 'dumpon' in /etc/rc.conf), at that prompt enter 'panic' to get a core dump of your system... you may have to enter 'panic' more than once. I have a spare machine here.. I will try my program on it shortly.. I don't feel like crashing my home machine again... it is in X so DDB doesn't work, and I need to hard down it with the reset button. Plus it is a good 15 minute walk to just get there. -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 11:48:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AB514BDB; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA97131; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:48:58 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:48:58 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: <199906091835.OAA35583@cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > by "break" I mean a serial break condition. Take the Tx line out of your > box and bring it negative 3-5 volts for a short time, that will be a break. > > Seriously, the break will need to be sent from the piece of equipment that is > connected to the other end of the serial line. It isn't a telnet issue at all. > There should be a way to drop into a command mode on the livingston (I have > never used one, so I don't know how), and send a RS-232 break to the remote > side. After that go back to terminal mode, you should be at a DDB prompt. > "trace" should give you what we want to see. Also, if you can configure > 'dumpon' and 'savecore' (man savecore, see 'dumpon' in /etc/rc.conf), at that > prompt enter 'panic' to get a core dump of your system... you may have to > enter 'panic' more than once. Actually, I have all that enabled, but don't have a file system large enough to dump to :( memory is 384Meg, swap is another 1.6gig :) Will look into the break thing...don't believe there is a way of doing it, but have to search the docs to be certain...thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 12: 0:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DC114E11; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (phoenix.cs.rpi.edu [128.113.96.153]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA36152; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906091900.PAA36152@cs.rpi.edu> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message from The Hermit Hacker of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:48:58 -0300." Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:00:00 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have more than enough space to do it to. Swap memory is not dumped, only RAM is... typicall it is dumped to the swap partition. In this case you have well more than enough. If your /etc/fstab showed "/dev/da3s1b" as your 1.6 gig swap partition, you would add "dumpon=/dev/da3s1b" to your /etc/rc.conf. then make sure that /var/crash has about 400M available space on it and the OS will take care of the rest for you. After a crash you can do "gdb -k /var/crash/kernel.X /var/crash/vmcore.X" then the standard gdb kernel commands like "bt". -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 12: 8:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F358114D1A; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA97378; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:08:46 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:08:46 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: <199906091900.PAA36152@cs.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, David E. Cross wrote: > You have more than enough space to do it to. Swap memory is not dumped, only > RAM is... typicall it is dumped to the swap partition. In this case you > have well more than enough. Ah, okay, then I mis-read the error ;( I have 1.6gig of swap spread over 10 drives...my largest is only 256Meg ... I'm going to look into getting a dedicated drive for swap added onto that system, since it is a pain to not be able to debug crashes :( Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 12:18:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D98F153FE; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA97607; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:18:25 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:18:25 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How hard would it be to add a kernel option that would enable an alternate key to drop to the debugger? Say have it so that if a keystroke of ~b (as suggested by one user) came through on the console line, it would drop to the debugger? I guess the next question is would this even work once the hang happened, of course... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 12:28:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5CAE14E95 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 94230 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1999 19:28:09 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 19:28:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:28:08 -0500 (CDT) From: John Sconiers To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: -current problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 4.0-current using a snapshot(not using PAO) from 5-20-99 on a dell Latitude. I installed over 3.2 and it works fine. I attempted to build a new kernel. The kernel config and make went ok however the make install caused the machine to crash and reboot. I figured it was because I installed on top of 3.2. I attempted to reinstall 4.0 from a snap cd that uses a 4.0 boot image however I kept getting panic messeges. If I use a 3.2 boot image and a 4.0 cd the install is successful but I can't change the kernel. Is this a known issue?? Is it fixed?? JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 12:34:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E5C15188 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA39978; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:34:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199906091934.VAA39978@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: -current problems In-Reply-To: from John Sconiers at "Jun 9, 1999 2:28: 8 pm" To: jrs@enteract.com (John Sconiers) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:34:03 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems John Sconiers wrote: > > I'm running 4.0-current using a snapshot(not using PAO) from 5-20-99 on a > dell Latitude. I installed over 3.2 and it works fine. I attempted to > build a new kernel. The kernel config and make went ok however the make > install caused the machine to crash and reboot. I figured it was because > I installed on top of 3.2. I attempted to reinstall 4.0 from a snap cd > that uses a 4.0 boot image however I kept getting panic messeges. If I > use a 3.2 boot image and a 4.0 cd the install is successful but I can't > change the kernel. Is this a known issue?? Is it fixed?? Hmm, I've run -current on my Latitude since I got it, and it hasn't failed on me yet... I havn't installed on it lately though, its just getting "make world'ed" pretty often... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 13:19:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A20314D82 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA70100 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:16:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:16:09 -0400 From: bush doctor To: current@freebsd.org Subject: A question about kld filesystems and xFS_ROOT options Message-ID: <19990609161609.A48716@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now that file systems options such as CD9660, MFS and NFS can be loaded dynamically do lines like "options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root device" still need to occur in our kernel config files if we want them usable as root devices? #;^) -- So ya want ta here da roots? Dem that feels it knows it ... bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 13:24: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2A8714D82 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 25779 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1999 20:24:04 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 20:24:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:24:02 -0500 (CDT) From: John Sconiers To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current problems In-Reply-To: <199906091934.VAA39978@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hmm, I've run -current on my Latitude since I got it, and it hasn't > failed on me yet... I havn't installed on it lately though, its just > getting "make world'ed" pretty often... Thanks...I'll just cvsup and make world tonight. JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 14:15:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F289151E8 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA28118; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:16:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > And today's trick question...how do you send a break? :( I'm telnet'd > into a Livingston Portmaster, with 'telnet -E' to disable the telnet > break... Any particular reason you're using the -E option? The easiest way to send a serial break on most terminal servers is hitting the telnet escape character (usually ^]) and typing "send break". Terminal servers are generally programmed to send a serial break in response to the TELNET BRK sequence. Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 14:30: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878E14BCE for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA99060; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:29:40 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:29:40 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Jasper O'Malley" Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > And today's trick question...how do you send a break? :( I'm telnet'd > > into a Livingston Portmaster, with 'telnet -E' to disable the telnet > > break... > > Any particular reason you're using the -E option? The easiest way to send > a serial break on most terminal servers is hitting the telnet escape > character (usually ^]) and typing "send break". Terminal servers are > generally programmed to send a serial break in response to the TELNET BRK > sequence. Did try this...actually went to the Livingston WWW site, and they "fixed this bug" around release 3.1.4 of ComOS :( The 'send break' just gets ignored... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 14:35:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from liquid.tpb.net (drum-n-bass.party-animals.com [194.134.94.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466C214D32 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA27445 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:47 +0200 (CEST) From: N X-Sender: niels@liquid.tpb.net To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9906092333060.27141-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> And today's trick question...how do you send a break? :( I'm telnet'd >>> into a Livingston Portmaster, with 'telnet -E' to disable the telnet >>> break... >> Any particular reason you're using the -E option? The easiest way to send >> a serial break on most terminal servers is hitting the telnet escape >> character (usually ^]) and typing "send break". Terminal servers are >> generally programmed to send a serial break in response to the TELNET BRK >> sequence. > Did try this...actually went to the Livingston WWW site, and they "fixed > this bug" around release 3.1.4 of ComOS :( The 'send break' just gets > ignored... There's some hacketry involved. I managed (although it was more a co-worker that did most of it :) to get it to work by assigning a TCP port number to a port and telnetting to that directly, and then use the "escape to telnet, type `send break'" trick. Ask on portmaster-users@livingston.com, and before that read the archives at . (I'm sorry - I don't have the command sequence saved to set up a port that way. I hope I never lose that particular PM. :) -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 15:24:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from par28.ma.ikos.com (par28.ma.ikos.com [137.103.105.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813714DBB; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tich@par28.ma.ikos.com) Received: (from tich@localhost) by par28.ma.ikos.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01166; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:25:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:25:05 -0400 From: Richard Cownie Message-Id: <199906092225.SAA01166@par28.ma.ikos.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: 4-way SMP broken ? Cc: tich@ma.ikos.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been trying to install 19990604-CURRENT on a couple of SC450NX boxes. It works fine with 2 cpu's, but an SMP kernel with 4 cpu's falls over very quickly (I think while it's setting up the APIC stuff, or very shortly after - the messages about APIC bus ids appear on the screen very briefly, then the machine reboots itself). Does anyone know a) when was the last time it worked on 4 cpu's b) what's changed recently which might relate to this. Also in trying to figure this out I looked at the DRAM probing code in /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:getmemsize(), and it looks as though it's not safe for >2GB (e.g. comparisons of byte addresses against signed "int end"). It would also be good if this probing code was carefule not to ventrue past 4GB-64MB (PCI device space) - then a generic kernel could work on a 4GB machine without any tweaking, which would simplify installation - I get nervous shuffling DIMMs in and out of the machine ... Thanks Richard Cownie (tich@ma.ikos.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 17: 1:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AECF14F52; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07014; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:01:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199906100001.UAA07014@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, tich@ma.ikos.com Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I've been trying to install 19990604-CURRENT on a couple of SC450NX > boxes. It works fine with 2 cpu's, but an SMP kernel with 4 cpu's > falls over very quickly (I think while it's setting up the APIC > stuff, or very shortly after - the messages about APIC bus ids appear > on the screen very briefly, then the machine reboots itself). > Do you mean messages like these? FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 12, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 By the time you see these messages, all cpus should have been booted up successfully, any crash immediately follows is not likely to be SMP related. It's helpful to pinpoint the crash if you could include the last few lines from a verbose boot. > Does anyone know a) when was the last time it worked on 4 cpu's > b) what's changed recently which might relate to this. > > Also in trying to figure this out I looked at the DRAM probing > code in /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:getmemsize(), and it looks > as though it's not safe for >2GB (e.g. comparisons of byte addresses > against signed "int end"). It would also be good if this probing > code was carefule not to ventrue past 4GB-64MB (PCI device space) - > then a generic kernel could work on a 4GB machine without any tweaking, > which would simplify installation - I get nervous shuffling DIMMs > in and out of the machine ... > > Thanks > Richard Cownie (tich@ma.ikos.com) > -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 17:23:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from argus.tfs.net (as2-p98.tfs.net [139.146.205.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59D514BF5 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@argus.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by argus.tfs.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) id TAA27790; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:23:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199906100023.TAA27790@argus.tfs.net> Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? In-Reply-To: <199906100001.UAA07014@lor.watermarkgroup.com> from Luoqi Chen at "Jun 9, 99 08:01:04 pm" To: luoqi@watermarkgroup.com (Luoqi Chen) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:23:34 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #31: Thu Apr 8 10:40:17 CDT 1999 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply: > > Hi, > > > > I've been trying to install 19990604-CURRENT on a couple of SC450NX > > boxes. It works fine with 2 cpu's, but an SMP kernel with 4 cpu's > > falls over very quickly (I think while it's setting up the APIC > > stuff, or very shortly after - the messages about APIC bus ids appear > > on the screen very briefly, then the machine reboots itself). > > > Do you mean messages like these? > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard > cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > cpu1 (AP): apic id: 12, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > io0 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 > By the time you see these messages, all cpus should have been booted up > successfully, any crash immediately follows is not likely to be SMP related. > It's helpful to pinpoint the crash if you could include the last few lines > from a verbose boot. interesting. then why the delay in bringing up the AP? Note in the dmesg output below, that the AP only comes up during th SCSI delay. I have also added other comments to the following output. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [Last night's kernel] Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #7: Wed Jun 9 16:10:23 CDT 1999 jbryant@wahoo:/usr/src/sys/compile/WAHOO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1192990 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x650 Stepping=0 Features=0x183fbff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 126902272 (123928K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0393000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc039309c. DEVFS: ready for devices Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled, default memory type is uncacheable ipl: ERROR: driver has bogus cdevsw->d_maj = -1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?????? ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: YMH0802 [0x0208a865] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 chip0: at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vga-pci0: irq 2 at device 0.0 on pci1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 chip1: at device 7.1 on pci0 uhci0: irq 19 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered intpm0: at device 7.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped fcb0 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0 intsmb0: smbus0: on intsmb0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped fc00 ed0: irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci0 ed0: address 00:00:e8:4e:0e:16, type NE2000 (16 bit) ahc0: irq 19 at device 15.0 on pci0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7895 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc1: irq 16 at device 15.1 on pci0 ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings ahc1: aic7895 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs devclass_alloc_unit: ed0 already exists, using next available unit number ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?????? isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> at fdc0 drive 0 ppc0 at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 lppps0: on ppbus 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 joy0: joystick atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x6 on isa0 pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 pca0: PC speaker audio driver DEVFS: ready to run APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: Broken MP table detected: 8254 is not connected to IO APIC int pin 2 APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 on pin 0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tyan Thunder2 S1696DLUA Motherboard, Rogue? IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, unlimited logging DUMMYNET initialized (990504) ds0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ??????? BRIDGE 981214, have 12 interfaces -- index 1 ed0 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.00.e8.4e.0e.16 IP Filter: initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is what I was talking about (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): data overrun detected in Data-In phase. Tag == 0xe. (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): Have seen Data Phase. Length = 36. NumSGs = 1. sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4094C) changing root device to da0s1a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 17:51:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E102C15455 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07384; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:51:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199906100051.UAA07384@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Do you mean messages like these? > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard > > cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > > cpu1 (AP): apic id: 12, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > > io0 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 > > By the time you see these messages, all cpus should have been booted up > > successfully, any crash immediately follows is not likely to be SMP related. > > It's helpful to pinpoint the crash if you could include the last few lines > > from a verbose boot. > > interesting. then why the delay in bringing up the AP? Note in the > dmesg output below, that the AP only comes up during th SCSI delay. I > have also added other comments to the following output. > The APs are up, but not fully initialized. Initializations that require holding of the giant lock are done near the end of the booting process, until then the APs are just spinning around the lock. Tor Egge tried once to move to an earlier time, but it didn't work well on some motherboards. -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 18:15:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fred.captive-data.com.au (fred.captive-data.com.au [203.56.35.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0666014DEE for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamesb@ircnet.com.au) Received: from ircnet.com.au (prt029.ircnet.com.au [203.56.35.158]) by fred.captive-data.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA28496 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:14:54 +1000 Message-ID: <375F1375.F2566F8D@ircnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:23:01 +1000 From: James X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 18:16:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fred.captive-data.com.au (fred.captive-data.com.au [203.56.35.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F2215A1B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamesb@ircnet.com.au) Received: from ircnet.com.au (prt029.ircnet.com.au [203.56.35.158]) by fred.captive-data.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA28575 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:16:52 +1000 Message-ID: <375F13EC.FB934835@ircnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:25:00 +1000 From: James X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 19: 6:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from midten.fast.no (midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155EF14D9E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tegge@fast.no) Received: from fast.no (IDENT:tegge@midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by midten.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01848; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:06:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199906100206.EAA01848@midten.fast.no> To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net Cc: luoqi@watermarkgroup.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? From: Tor.Egge@fast.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:23:34 -0500 (CDT)" References: <199906100023.TAA27790@argus.tfs.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_04:05:47_1999)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:06:12 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_04:05:47_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > interesting. then why the delay in bringing up the AP? Note in the > dmesg output below, that the AP only comes up during th SCSI delay. I > have also added other comments to the following output. The APs need the giant kernel lock when initializing the local APIC and printing the "launched" message. I added code for bringing up the APs earlier, but had to disable it, since it caused some machines to hang. The APs were probably launched too early, causing the BSP to attempt to send IPIs before the local APIC was initialized). A revised patch for bringing up the APs early is enclosed. - Tor Egge ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_04:05:47_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: mp_machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.102 diff -u -r1.102 mp_machdep.c --- mp_machdep.c 1999/06/01 18:19:42 1.102 +++ mp_machdep.c 1999/06/08 00:27:19 @@ -494,6 +494,10 @@ #if defined(APIC_IO) + +/* Wait for all APs to be fully initialized */ +extern int wait_ap(unsigned int); + /* * Final configuration of the BSP's local APIC: * - disable 'pic mode'. @@ -526,6 +530,9 @@ if (bootverbose) apic_dump("bsp_apic_configure()"); + wait_ap(1000000); + if (smp_started == 0) + printf("WARNING: Failed to start all APs\n"); } #endif /* APIC_IO */ @@ -1743,9 +1750,6 @@ #endif /* USE_CLOCKLOCK */ } - -/* Wait for all APs to be fully initialized */ -extern int wait_ap(unsigned int); /* * start each AP in our list ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_04:05:47_1999)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 20: 2:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [208.139.222.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AA914BF6 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23982; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from free.pcs (free.PCS [148.105.10.51]) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA18859; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:02:53 -0500 Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by free.pcs (8.8.6/8.8.5) id WAA10236; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:02:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:02:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <199906100302.WAA10236@free.pcs> To: tich@ma.ikos.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-current In-Reply-To: Organization: Architecture and Operating System Fanatics Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >Also in trying to figure this out I looked at the DRAM probing >code in /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:getmemsize(), and it looks >as though it's not safe for >2GB (e.g. comparisons of byte addresses >against signed "int end"). I just made this into a vm_offset_t, so it should be good for up to 4GB. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 20:18: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from argus.tfs.net (as2-p98.tfs.net [139.146.205.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967AA14E34 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@argus.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by argus.tfs.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) id WAA28146; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:17:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199906100317.WAA28146@argus.tfs.net> Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? In-Reply-To: <199906100206.EAA01848@midten.fast.no> from "Tor.Egge@fast.no" at "Jun 10, 99 04:06:12 am" To: Tor.Egge@fast.no Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:17:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #31: Thu Apr 8 10:40:17 CDT 1999 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply: > > interesting. then why the delay in bringing up the AP? Note in the > > dmesg output below, that the AP only comes up during th SCSI delay. I > > have also added other comments to the following output. > > The APs need the giant kernel lock when initializing the > local APIC and printing the "launched" message. > > I added code for bringing up the APs earlier, but had to disable it, > since it caused some machines to hang. The APs were probably launched > too early, causing the BSP to attempt to send IPIs before the local > APIC was initialized). > > A revised patch for bringing up the APs early is enclosed. > > - Tor Egge > > Index: mp_machdep.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c,v > retrieving revision 1.102 > diff -u -r1.102 mp_machdep.c > --- mp_machdep.c 1999/06/01 18:19:42 1.102 > +++ mp_machdep.c 1999/06/08 00:27:19 the second hunk rejects. i show this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 62767 Jun 1 23:38 /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c i'll apply this by hand a little later, i'll get back with you on compatability. I am using a Tyan S1696DLUA "Thunder2" motherboard. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 22:41:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blockhead.mincom.com (blockhead1.mincom.com [203.55.175.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7961C14BE4; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blockhead.mincom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA69591; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:41:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: from porthole.mincom.oz.au(172.17.100.2) via SMTP by blockhead.mincom.oz.au, id smtpdd69588; Thu Jun 10 15:41:24 1999 Received: (from philh@localhost) by porthole.mincom.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA29619; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:41:24 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:41:24 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? Message-ID: <19990610154124.F22693@mincom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 04:18:25PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Hermit Hacker wrote: > How hard would it be to add a kernel option that would enable an alternate > key to drop to the debugger? Say have it so that if a keystroke of ~b (as > suggested by one user) came through on the console line, it would drop to > the debugger? Would be most excellent if this could be done. A couple of boxen I have here have serial consoles attached to other machines which do a very good simulation of a break when the controlling process leaves them. Dropping to DDB every time you reboot the other machine is, uh, less than desirable behaviour. :-) (Perhaps this thread should go to -hackers?) -- Phil Homewood DNRC email: philh@mincom.com Postmaster and BOFH Mincom Pty Ltd phone: +61-7-3303-3524 Brisbane, QLD Australia fax: +61-7-3303-3269 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 23:22:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b169.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFB514E9B; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10225; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:27:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Phil Homewood Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? In-Reply-To: <19990610154124.F22693@mincom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > key to drop to the debugger? Say have it so that if a keystroke of ~b (as > > Would be most excellent if this could be done. A couple of boxen I > have here have serial consoles attached to other machines which > do a very good simulation of a break when the controlling process > leaves them. Dropping to DDB every time you reboot the other machine > is, uh, less than desirable behaviour. :-) Agreed, but this may be quite a project... doing a "cd ~bob" would be fun. :) You would pretty much have to implement some timing requirements, but I imagine that it could bulk up that section of the kernel pretty easily. One thing that might help (assuming you CAN generate a break) is to watch DCD (or some other control line(s)). Generally, when a break is sent intentionally, the DCD line is active -- when the kernel detects a break, wait until after it's finished, then check DCD. If it's high, drop to debugger. If it's low, somebody either turned the terminal off or dropped outta kermit. (I have the displeasure of maintaining an AIX box that does something similar to this. Before the upgrade that fixed this problem, turning off the serial console brought the whole machine down.) --Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 23:35:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BC714E9B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA93384; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Tony Finch Cc: jobaldwi@vt.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG TONY!!!! they just showed your obfuscated C entry in the COmpetitionhere.. Your'e crazy you know.. there were soma amazing entries but you came in near the top.. there was the 2K obfuscated X11 flight simulator that actually worked.. the 1500 byte program that produced gzip'd postscript of a 3 maze, and your 2k program that produces an 800K program that actually works.. as I said.. "you're crazy" (but wear it with pride!) julian On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Tony Finch wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > >So it would seem that patch and cvs don't interact at all, unless it's a > >question of patch 2.5 being able to apply diffs generated by cvs diff. > > That is the main problem I have with patch 2.5 -- it completely fails > to apply patches from `cvs diff` unless you have a really new cvs, and > I usually don't. > > Tony. > -- > f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net black dog > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 9 23:53:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC09114CC6 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA93732; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:53:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM To Buy Whistle, Maker Of Web Servers In-Reply-To: <199906091526.LAA02483@misha.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It makes no differnce.. we will continue to use FreeBSD and to contribute.. (maybe in a more financed manner) julian On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > I'm sorry, if this is not the best place to ask, but I know several > Whistle people are active FreeBSD contributors. Does the announcement in > Subject, see also (I hate long URLs): > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/tc/story.html?s=v/nm/19990609/tc/ibm_whistle_1.html > > mean, IBM is to offer FreeBSD on their machines? Perhaps, it will be a > "black box", but with FreeBSD inside it, secretly ;-) ? > > -mi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 0:23:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from chiark.greenend.org.uk (chiark.greenend.org.uk [195.224.76.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD2114D4C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@chiark.greenend.org.uk) Received: from fanf by chiark.greenend.org.uk with local (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10rzB4-0001sq-00 (Debian); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:23:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14175.26585.525764.284882@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:23:05 +0100 (BST) From: Tony Finch To: Julian Elischer Cc: Tony Finch , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNU patch gone stale In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.47 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Julian Elischer writes: > > TONY!!!! > > they just showed your obfuscated C entry in the COmpetitionhere.. > Your'e crazy you know.. > there were soma amazing entries but you came in near the top.. Wow. That's the first news I've had about this since submitting it. Now I can sit back and look smug. > there was the 2K obfuscated X11 flight simulator that actually worked.. > the 1500 byte program that produced gzip'd postscript of a 3 maze, ! > and your 2k program that produces an 800K program that actually works.. Don't use -O unless you can cope with gigabyte-sized compiler processes (I never could get it to work). > as I said.. > "you're crazy" (but wear it with pride!) :-) Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net Winner of the International Obfuscated C Code Competition 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 0:34:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blockhead.mincom.com (blockhead1.mincom.com [203.55.175.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69AE14ECA; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blockhead.mincom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA74838; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from philh@mincom.com) Received: from porthole.mincom.oz.au(172.17.100.2) via SMTP by blockhead.mincom.oz.au, id smtpdT74834; Thu Jun 10 17:34:32 1999 Received: (from philh@localhost) by porthole.mincom.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA03648; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:32 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:32 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? Message-ID: <19990610173432.K29796@mincom.com> References: <19990610154124.F22693@mincom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Nowlin on Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:27:30AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Nowlin wrote: > Agreed, but this may be quite a project... doing a "cd ~bob" would be > fun. :) You would pretty much have to implement some timing > requirements, but I imagine that it could bulk up that section of the > kernel pretty easily. Yep. I started to hack something like this into sio.c in the days of 2.1, then the need disappeared for a while and I never completed it. > One thing that might help (assuming you CAN > generate a break) is to watch DCD (or some other control line(s)). Yes. (DSR also jumps to mind.) > Generally, when a break is sent intentionally, the DCD line is active -- > when the kernel detects a break, wait until after it's finished, then > check DCD. If it's high, drop to debugger. If it's low, somebody either > turned the terminal off or dropped outta kermit. Excellent idea. > (I have the displeasure of maintaining an AIX box that does something > similar to this. Before the upgrade that fixed this problem, turning off > the serial console brought the whole machine down.) Suns tend to do it too. Great fun when patch-monkeys disturb the cable to the console... :-) -- Phil Homewood DNRC email: philh@mincom.com Postmaster and BOFH Mincom Pty Ltd phone: +61-7-3303-3524 Brisbane, QLD Australia fax: +61-7-3303-3269 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 5: 4:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat192.211.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.192.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A4B14D36; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29364; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:04:11 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:04:10 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Phil Homewood , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Mike Nowlin wrote: > > > key to drop to the debugger? Say have it so that if a keystroke of ~b (as > > > > Would be most excellent if this could be done. A couple of boxen I > > have here have serial consoles attached to other machines which > > do a very good simulation of a break when the controlling process > > leaves them. Dropping to DDB every time you reboot the other machine > > is, uh, less than desirable behaviour. :-) > > Agreed, but this may be quite a project... doing a "cd ~bob" would be the general idea is that this wouldn't only register as a 'break' when issud over the serial console, nowhere else...I know, some ppl use the serial console as a regular login, but my experience is that its painfully slow and good "for maintenance only" Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 6: 6:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.webnology.com (mercury.webnology.com [209.155.51.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A6114CA1 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:06:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jooji@webnology.com) Received: from localhost (jooji@localhost) by mercury.webnology.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA06974; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:08:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:08:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jasper O'Malley" To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Did try this...actually went to the Livingston WWW site, and they "fixed > this bug" around release 3.1.4 of ComOS :( The 'send break' just gets > ignored... The bug they fixed was that sending a telnet BRK sequence during an administrative session (i.e. logged into a ComOS prompt) used to reboot the Portmaster. During administrative sessions now, BRK is ignored. However, you can still send BRK on sessions to individual serial ports. See: http://www.livingston.com/tech/technotes/200/220010.html Cheers, Mick The Reverend Jasper P. O'Malley dotdot:jooji@webnology.com Systems Administrator ringring:asktheadmiral Webnology, LLC woowoo:http://www.webnology.com/~jooji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 9:41: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from midten.fast.no (midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EE114D19; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tegge@fast.no) Received: from fast.no (IDENT:tegge@midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by midten.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13408; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:40:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199906101640.SAA13408@midten.fast.no> To: philh@mincom.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? From: Tor.Egge@fast.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:41:24 +1000" References: <19990610154124.F22693@mincom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_18:39:25_1999)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:40:22 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_18:39:25_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Would be most excellent if this could be done. A couple of boxen I > have here have serial consoles attached to other machines which > do a very good simulation of a break when the controlling process > leaves them. Dropping to DDB every time you reboot the other machine > is, uh, less than desirable behaviour. :-) I had the same problem. Changing the sio code to require three breaks inside a 10 seconds interval before dropping into the debugger reduced the problem for me. - Tor Egge ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_18:39:25_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: sys/i386/conf/options.i386 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386,v retrieving revision 1.116 diff -u -r1.116 options.i386 --- options.i386 1999/06/06 22:45:04 1.116 +++ options.i386 1999/06/08 00:27:17 @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ AUTO_EOI_1 opt_auto_eoi.h AUTO_EOI_2 opt_auto_eoi.h BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER opt_comconsole.h +TRIPLE_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER opt_comconsole.h CONSPEED opt_comconsole.h I586_PMC_GUPROF opt_i586_guprof.h WLCACHE opt_wavelan.h Index: sys/isa/sio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/isa/sio.c,v retrieving revision 1.246 diff -u -r1.246 sio.c --- sio.c 1999/05/31 06:57:31 1.246 +++ sio.c 1999/06/08 00:27:38 @@ -427,6 +427,16 @@ { -1, -1 } }; +#define DDB_BREAK_MASK (IER_ERXRDY | IER_ETXRDY | IER_ERLS | IER_EMSC) + +#ifdef TRIPLE_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER +#ifndef TRIPLE_BREAK_TIMEOUT +#define TRIPLE_BREAK_TIMEOUT 10 +#endif +int triple_break_count; /* number of breaks detected */ +int triple_break_time; /* time_second sampled at first break */ +#endif + #ifdef COM_ESP /* XXX configure this properly. */ static Port_t likely_com_ports[] = { 0x3f8, 0x2f8, 0x3e8, 0x2e8, }; @@ -998,6 +1008,9 @@ com->lt_out.c_ispeed = com->lt_out.c_ospeed = com->lt_in.c_ispeed = com->lt_in.c_ospeed = com->it_in.c_ispeed = com->it_in.c_ospeed = comdefaultrate; +#if defined(DDB) && defined(BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER) && defined(DDB_BREAK_MASK) + outb(iobase + com_ier, DDB_BREAK_MASK); +#endif } else com->it_in.c_ispeed = com->it_in.c_ospeed = TTYDEF_SPEED; if (siosetwater(com, com->it_in.c_ispeed) != 0) { @@ -1404,7 +1417,12 @@ com->pps.ppsparam.mode = 0; outb(iobase + com_cfcr, com->cfcr_image &= ~CFCR_SBREAK); { - outb(iobase + com_ier, 0); +#if defined(DDB) && defined(BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER) && defined(DDB_BREAK_MASK) + if (com->unit == comconsole) + outb(iobase + com_ier, DDB_BREAK_MASK); + else +#endif + outb(iobase + com_ier, 0); tp = com->tp; if (tp->t_cflag & HUPCL /* @@ -1704,7 +1722,23 @@ if (line_status & LSR_BI) { #if defined(DDB) && defined(BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER) if (com->unit == comconsole) { +#ifdef TRIPLE_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER + if (time_second > + triple_break_time + + TRIPLE_BREAK_TIMEOUT) + triple_break_count = 0; + triple_break_count++; + if (triple_break_count == 1) + triple_break_time = + time_second; + else if (triple_break_count + == 3) { + triple_break_count = 0; + breakpoint(); + } +#else breakpoint(); +#endif goto cont; } #endif ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_10_18:39:25_1999)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 11:58:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from par28.ma.ikos.com (par28.ma.ikos.com [137.103.105.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FED01509D; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tich@par28.ma.ikos.com) Received: from [[UNIX: localhost]] ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by par28.ma.ikos.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA19650; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:58:22 -0400 From: Richard Cownie To: Luoqi Chen , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, tich@ma.ikos.com Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:47:01 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.0] Content-Type: text/plain References: <199906100001.UAA07014@lor.watermarkgroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061014582200.19512@par28.ma.ikos.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 09 Jun 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: > > I've been trying to install 19990604-CURRENT on a couple of SC450NX > > boxes. It works fine with 2 cpu's, but an SMP kernel with 4 cpu's > > falls over very quickly (I think while it's setting up the APIC > > stuff, or very shortly after - the messages about APIC bus ids appear > > on the screen very briefly, then the machine reboots itself). > > > Do you mean messages like these? > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard > cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > cpu1 (AP): apic id: 12, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > io0 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 > By the time you see these messages, all cpus should have been booted up > successfully, any crash immediately follows is not likely to be SMP related. > It's helpful to pinpoint the crash if you could include the last few lines > from a verbose boot. I have added more debugging messages, and the crash appears to be inside mp_start(). I don't have a log because this is too early in the boot to get the messages saved anywhere, and they go by too quickly to write it down. The evidence that this is an SMP problem is simple - with 2 cpu's plugged in, it works fine; with 3 or 4 cpu's plugged in, it crashes. I believe the hardware is fine because I was previously running 19990421-CURRENT with all 4 cpu's without serious problems (it was a little unstable, but always booted ok). > > Does anyone know a) when was the last time it worked on 4 cpu's > > b) what's changed recently which might relate to this. So if anyone has an answer to these questions I'd still be interested. > > Also in trying to figure this out I looked at the DRAM probing > > code in /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c:getmemsize(), and it looks > > as though it's not safe for >2GB (e.g. comparisons of byte addresses > > against signed "int end"). It would also be good if this probing I've tried various hacks to this code, but have not succeeded in making it work for 4GB. Changing "int end" to "vm_offset_t end" is not sufficient. It has a tendency to say "Too many holes in address space" ... Even defining MAXMEM does not solve the problem. Richard Cownie (tich@ma.ikos.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 14:56: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lor.watermarkgroup.com (lor.watermarkgroup.com [207.202.73.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E391506D; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luoqi@watermarkgroup.com) Received: (from luoqi@localhost) by lor.watermarkgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15728; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:56:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luoqi) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Luoqi Chen Message-Id: <199906102156.RAA15728@lor.watermarkgroup.com> To: tich@ma.ikos.com Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have added more debugging messages, and the crash appears to be inside > mp_start(). I don't have a log because this is too early in the boot > to get the messages saved anywhere, and they go by too quickly to > write it down. The evidence that this is an SMP problem is simple - > with 2 cpu's plugged in, it works fine; with 3 or 4 cpu's plugged in, > it crashes. > Could you narrow down the crash further inside mp_start()? I'd like to know whether the crash occurred inside start_all_aps(). One or two lines of debug messages would be really helpful, you don't have to write down the exact words. Do you have options DDB enabled in the kernel? It helps to stop the last few lines of console messages to scroll of the screen. > I believe the hardware is fine because I was previously running > 19990421-CURRENT with all 4 cpu's without serious problems (it was > a little unstable, but always booted ok). > If possible, could you try a kernel built from sources with the POST_SMP_VMSHARE tag? I may have broken something during the commit. -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 15:36:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from par28.ma.ikos.com (par28.ma.ikos.com [137.103.105.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8268F1501A; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tich@par28.ma.ikos.com) Received: from [[UNIX: localhost]] ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by par28.ma.ikos.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA22847; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:36:18 -0400 From: Richard Cownie To: Luoqi Chen , tich@ma.ikos.com Subject: Re: 4-way SMP broken ? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:33:25 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.0] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199906102156.RAA15728@lor.watermarkgroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061018361800.22794@par28.ma.ikos.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: > Could you narrow down the crash further inside mp_start()? I'd like to > know whether the crash occurred inside start_all_aps(). One or two lines of > debug messages would be really helpful, you don't have to write down the exact > words. Do you have options DDB enabled in the kernel? It helps to stop > the last few lines of console messages to scroll of the screen. Yes, I added more messages and it's inside start_all_aps() - it seems to start AP #1 ok, then crashes while starting AP #2. > If possible, could you try a kernel built from sources with the > POST_SMP_VMSHARE tag? I may have broken something during the commit. Have to get out the door right now, will try this either tomorrow morning or Monday. Thanks Richard Cownie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 19:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from boom.calcasieu.com (mail.calcasieu.com [209.99.46.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B005714C2A; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dread@calcasieu.com) Received: from coypu.bb.calcasieu.com (coypu.bb.calcasieu.com [192.168.3.21]) by boom.calcasieu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14623; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:13:40 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Calcasieu Lumber From: Don Read To: The Hermit Hacker Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Phil Homewood , Mike Nowlin Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Jun-99 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Mike Nowlin wrote: > >> > > key to drop to the debugger? Say have it so that if a keystroke of ~b >> > > (as >> > >> > Would be most excellent if this could be done. A couple of boxen I >> > have here have serial consoles attached to other machines which >> > do a very good simulation of a break when the controlling process >> > leaves them. Dropping to DDB every time you reboot the other machine >> > is, uh, less than desirable behaviour. :-) >> >> Agreed, but this may be quite a project... doing a "cd ~bob" would be > > the general idea is that this wouldn't only register as a 'break' when > issud over the serial console, nowhere else...I know, some ppl use the > serial console as a regular login, but my experience is that its painfully > slow and good "for maintenance only" > Agree also, my DG/UX (a SysV) sees a series of about twenty open-bracket, close-bracket "[]" on the console as a signal to jump into ROM. I've only had to use it once; the box was so far in the weeds that I couldn't get a login. Are you guys serious about dropping the box by powering off the console ? Regards, --- Don Read dread@calcasieu.com EDP Manager dread@texas.net Calcasieu Lumber Co. Austin TX -- Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 21:40:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68F0215518 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 45123 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1999 04:40:32 -0000 Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.42) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 1999 04:40:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (dscheidt@localhost) by shell-3.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA26419; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:40:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell-3.enteract.com: dscheidt owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:40:31 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Don Read Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Don Read wrote: > > Are you guys serious about dropping the box by powering off the console ? > > Suns do this. They sense the terminal power off as a break. One previous ork place had a bunch of rack mounted suns, sharing a serial console via a switch box. There was a problem that sometimes switching from one machine to another would cause a break. Someone wired it slightly different, and included a push button on the switch box to send a break. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 10 22:24:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from home.dragondata.com (home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4816F14D94 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA09562 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:24:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199906110524.AAA09562@home.dragondata.com> Subject: More NFS woes To: current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:24:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Grabbed another -current, and are still seeing a few problems yet that Matt and others haven't solved. I'm not pushing anyone, just reminding that these are still here, and still problems. 1) The 'inode/vmopar' lockup that Matt is aware of, and apparently tracked down. 2) Processes starting to runaway doing this: nfs_getpages: error 70 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1251 (eggdrop) nfs_getpages: error 70 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1251 (eggdrop) nfs_getpages: error 70 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1251 (eggdrop) nfs_getpages: error 70 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1251 (eggdrop) nfs_getpages: error 70 No, i don't know what the user in question did to make this happen, if anything. The process was eating about 70% cpu when i killed it, syslogd was eating the other 30 logging all this. :) 3) Weirdly high load averages. I have two systems, of similar hardware, and similar jobs run on it. System A runs 2.2.8, and has about 300 processes running. System B runs -current, and has about 250 processes running. The processes are doing virtually the same things, and both are heavy NFS clients. System A's load average is about .10, Syetem B's load average hovers around 3.0-5.0. System A: last pid: 1933; load averages: 0.31, 0.10, 0.11 CPU states: 6.2% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 1.6% interrupt, 90.3% idle 302 processes: 1 running, 294 sleeping, 7 zombie System B: last pid: 77084; load averages: 3.64, 3.70, 4.00 CPU states: 7.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.4% interrupt, 89.9% idle 256 processes: 1 running, 254 sleeping, 1 zombie Has something changed in the load average calculation, between 2.x and -current, or is there something actually different going on here? The only hardware differences are that system A uses two de0 cards, and system B uses two fxp0 cards. System A is a PII, and sytem B is a K6-2. (similar speeds) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 0: 0:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from highlands.cisco.com (jclarke-isdn2.cisco.com [161.44.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7210615052 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@jclarke-isdn2.cisco.com) Received: from localhost (marcus@localhost) by highlands.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00461; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:00:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@jclarke-isdn2.cisco.com) X-Authentication-Warning: highlands.cisco.com: marcus owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:00:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Clarke Reply-To: jclarke@cisco.com To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: ES1370 Sound problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I currently re-added my es1370-based Ensoniq soundcard to my FreeBSD 3.2 system with the hope of getting Luigi's sound driver working with it. I added the following line to my kernel: device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 Then rebooted. I see the following in my dmesg output: es1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.15.0 pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x1800 which looks good. The card was detected, and pcm1 was bound to it. Next, I cd to /dev, and did a ./MAKEDEV snd1. This built the necessary device entries. I cat my /dev/sndstat, and see the following: FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Jun 11 1999 02:46:46 Installed devices: pcm1: at 0x1800 irq 0 dma 0:0 So, that looks promising. However, when I try to play a sound file or even cat a file to /dev/audio, I get nothing. Trying to play an mp3 with mpg123, I get the following: Can't reset audio! Can't reset audio! Is there something I'm missing? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Below is the output from pciconf -l and scanpci. Joe Clarke pciconf -l: chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71908086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 chip1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71918086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 chip2@pci0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71108086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 ide_pci0@pci0:7:1: class=0x010180 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71118086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:7:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71128086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 chip3@pci0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71138086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 rl0@pci0:14:0: class=0x020000 card=0x12111113 chip=0x12111113 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 es1@pci0:15:0: class=0x040100 card=0x4c4c4942 chip=0x50001274 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 ahc0@pci0:16:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78819004 chip=0x81789004 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vga0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00201545 chip=0x002010de rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 scanpci: PCI says configuration type 1 PCI probing configuration type 1 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x00 function 0x0000: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7190 Intel 82443BX Host pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x01 function 0x0000: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7191 Intel 82443BX AGP pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x07 function 0x0000: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7110 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x07 function 0x0001: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7111 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x07 function 0x0002: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7112 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x07 function 0x0003: vendor 0x8086 device 0x7113 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x0e function 0x0000: vendor 0x1113 device 0x1211 Device unknown pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x0f function 0x0000: vendor 0x1274 device 0x5000 Ensoniq AudioPCI pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x10 function 0x0000: vendor 0x9004 device 0x8178 Adaptec 2940U/UW Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: pci bus 0x1 cardnum 0x00 function 0x0000: vendor 0x10de device 0x0020 NVidia Riva TNT -- Please use Reply-To: address for response. Joe Clarke, CE | | Customer Support Engineer ||||| ||||| Phone: (919) 472-2867 ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:.. Email: jclarke@cisco.com c i s c o S y s t e m s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 0:20:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 871A414D94 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA05485; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:50:30 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199906110450.GAA05485@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ES1370 Sound problems To: jclarke@cisco.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:50:29 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Joe Clarke" at Jun 11, 99 03:00:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1132 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I currently re-added my es1370-based Ensoniq soundcard to my FreeBSD 3.2 > system with the hope of getting Luigi's sound driver working with it. I > added the following line to my kernel: > So, that looks promising. However, when I try to play a sound file or > even cat a file to /dev/audio, I get nothing. Trying to play an mp3 with > mpg123, I get the following: > > Can't reset audio! > Can't reset audio! first, you might miss symlinks from /dev/dsp->/dev/dsp1 and so on. the cure for the latter is cd /dev ./MAKEDEV snd1 first, the volumes default to zero which is not helpful. try mixer pcm 100 and see if something now comes out cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 4:30:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D110154F5; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS2-p96.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.224]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA15583; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:28:46 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: support@opensound.com, FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Hardware Subject: OSS Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:04:38 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061114112600.00424@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i get this error when i try to load soundconf, soundon, soundoff : link_elf: symbol cdevsw_module_handler undefined Failed to load the OSS driver module. Check that it is not already loaded. uname -a : FreeBSD Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #10: Fri Jun 11 13:51:50 IDT 1999 Spud@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CURRENT i386 ====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 6:48: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446A514C83 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA16462 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:47:58 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma016459; Fri, 11 Jun 99 15:47:59 +0200 Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with SMTP id PAA03413 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:47:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 25598 invoked by uid 666); 11 Jun 1999 13:48:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:48:19 +0200 From: Jos Backus To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Snoop device broken Message-ID: <19990611154819.E21893@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With a kernel built on June 9th, I am seeing the following: hal:/sys/kern# w -h | grep jos jos p1 :0.0 Wed03PM - /usr/local/bin/vim /ho # watch p1 watch: fatal: cannot attach to tty # kdump output: 25537 watch CALL open(0xbfbfd8f4,0,0xbfbfd9e4) 25537 watch NAMI "/dev/snp0" 25537 watch RET open 3 25537 watch CALL stat(0xbfbfd504,0xbfbfd4a4) 25537 watch NAMI "/dev/ttyp1" 25537 watch RET stat 0 25537 watch CALL ioctl(0x3,SNPSTTY,0x804ac80) 25537 watch RET ioctl -1 errno 22 Invalid argument 25537 watch CALL ioctl(0,TIOCSETA,0x804b0a0) 25537 watch RET ioctl 0 25537 watch CALL write(0x2,0xbfbfcd04,0x7) 25537 watch GIO fd 2 wrote 7 bytes "watch: " 25537 watch RET write 7 25537 watch CALL write(0x2,0xbfbfcd1c,0x1b) 25537 watch GIO fd 2 wrote 27 bytes "fatal: cannot attach to tty" 25537 watch RET write 27/0x1b 25537 watch CALL write(0x2,0xbfbfcd08,0x1) 25537 watch GIO fd 2 wrote 1 byte " " 25537 watch RET write 1 25537 watch CALL exit(0x45) The following code in sys/kern/tty_snoop.c seems responsible: tp = snpdevtotty(tdev); if (!tp) return (EINVAL); which in turn leads to static struct tty * snpdevtotty (dev) dev_t dev; { struct cdevsw *cdp; cdp = devsw(dev); if (cdp == NULL) return (NULL); return ((*cdp->d_devtotty)(dev)); } Apparently cdp is set to NULL here by the ``devsw(dev)'' call. I suspect that this issue is related to the recent dev_t changes. Is anyone else seeing this? Thanks, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 7:14:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rtp-cse-368.cisco.com (rtp-cse-368.cisco.com [161.44.20.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEDA15409 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jclarke@cisco.com) Received: from localhost (jclarke@localhost) by rtp-cse-368.cisco.com (8.8.5/CA/950118) with ESMTP id KAA29497; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Clarke To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ES1370 Sound problems In-Reply-To: <199906110450.GAA05485@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upped the volume to 100, but I am still getting the same errors. Is there anything else I should try? I should also mention that when I cat a file to /dev/audio or /dev/dsp, it immediately returns. It looks like the audio devices are nulls. All the symlinks are correct and snd1 has been built. My Vibra16 in my other machine works just find as pcm1. Joe Clarke -- Joe Clarke, CE | | Customer Support Engineer ||||| ||||| Phone: (919) 472-2867 ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:.. Email: jclarke@cisco.com c i s c o S y s t e m s ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > I currently re-added my es1370-based Ensoniq soundcard to my FreeBSD 3.2 > > system with the hope of getting Luigi's sound driver working with it. I > > added the following line to my kernel: > > > So, that looks promising. However, when I try to play a sound file or > > even cat a file to /dev/audio, I get nothing. Trying to play an mp3 with > > mpg123, I get the following: > > > > Can't reset audio! > > Can't reset audio! > > first, you might miss symlinks from /dev/dsp->/dev/dsp1 and so on. the > cure for the latter is > > cd /dev > ./MAKEDEV snd1 > > first, the volumes default to zero which is not helpful. try > > mixer pcm 100 > > and see if something now comes out > > cheers > luigi > -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione > http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa > TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > > http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ > ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== > -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 7:33:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b169.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C12A14C16; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12478; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:38:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:38:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Don Read Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Are you guys serious about dropping the box by powering off the console ? > Yup... Pretty dumb, isn't it? mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 7:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0817314DE8 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id RAA05114; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:34:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 172E71F93; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:34:43 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:34:43 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Tomer Weller Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: OSS Message-ID: <19990611173443.A24842@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <99061114112600.00424@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <99061114112600.00424@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org>; from Tomer Weller on Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 02:04:38PM +0300 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 02:04:38PM +0300, Tomer Weller wrote: > i get this error when i try to load soundconf, soundon, soundoff : > link_elf: symbol cdevsw_module_handler undefined > Failed to load the OSS driver module. > Check that it is not already loaded. It is related to recent changes in -current. You can see lots of changes by phk if you read cvs-all list. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 7:38: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FB414DE8 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA03473; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:38:04 +1000 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:38:04 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199906111438.AAA03473@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com Subject: Re: Snoop device broken Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >The following code in sys/kern/tty_snoop.c seems responsible: > > tp = snpdevtotty(tdev); > if (!tp) > return (EINVAL); tdev is *(dev_t *)data, but should be something like udev2dev(*(udev_t *)data). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 7:53:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AF814DE8 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id QAA02665 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:53:24 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma002657; Fri, 11 Jun 99 16:53:24 +0200 Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with SMTP id QAA16205 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:53:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 516 invoked by uid 666); 11 Jun 1999 14:53:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:53:41 +0200 From: Jos Backus To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Snoop device broken Message-ID: <19990611165341.A466@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus References: <199906111438.AAA03473@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <199906111438.AAA03473@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 12:38:04AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 12:38:04AM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > tdev is *(dev_t *)data, but should be something like > udev2dev(*(udev_t *)data). I used udev2dev(*(udev_t *)data, 0) because udev2dev wants an extra argument (int b) that is no longer used. Result: watch works :-) > Bruce Thanks Bruce! -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 9:32:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAB15160 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id SAA15497 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:32:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: by mips.rhein-neckar.de id m10sUBR-000WyWC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:29:33 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: ES1370 Sound problems Date: 11 Jun 1999 18:29:30 +0200 Message-ID: <7jrdha$v9m$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> References: To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Clarke wrote: > I currently re-added my es1370-based Ensoniq soundcard to my FreeBSD 3.2 > system with the hope of getting Luigi's sound driver working with it. > > es1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.15.0 ^^^ > pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0x1800 At least with 4.0-CURRENT that's a problem. You need to patch sys/pci/es1370.c, ca. line 150, in struct es_pci_driver. Replace "es" by "pcm". I then get pcm0: irq 15 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcm0: using I/O space register mapping at 0xe400 on boot-up, and the card is made available correctly. > Trying to play an mp3 with mpg123, I get the following: > > Can't reset audio! > Can't reset audio! I get these too, but they don't seem to have any effect. mpg123 works fine. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de carpe librum: books 'n' reviews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 10:38:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from neunacht.netgsi.com (neunacht.netgsi.com [192.55.203.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F7214EDF for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@neunacht.netgsi.com) Received: (from cjohnson@localhost) by neunacht.netgsi.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA73059; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:37:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjohnson) From: "Christopher T. Johnson" Message-Id: <199906111737.NAA73059@neunacht.netgsi.com> Subject: Re: Further on tape & CAM problems In-Reply-To: <19990501092120.A13451@luke.pmr.com> from Bob Willcox at "May 1, 1999 09:21:20 am" To: bob@pmr.com (Bob Willcox) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte), shocking@prth.pgs.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the long delay on this. I finally have working tape again, got it fixxed about 3 weeks ago. Upgraded to current as of May 24th and put the old drive back in. Everything is working correctly again. I'm a bit scared to change out the tape drive for more testing. Chris > On Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 12:36:25AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > As Bob Willcox wrote ... > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 10:26:36PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > As Bob Willcox wrote ... > > > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 08:45:36PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > > > > shipping 8200's (this was right at their end-of-life) was: > > > > > > > > > > MX: 2680 > > > > > SV: C034 > > > > > > > > > > This is for generic models. OEM models may have different versions > > > > > due to customizations. > > > > > > > > And these are not recommended for general use. > > > > > > Hmm, why is that? The newest of the IBM branded Exabyte 8200's that I > > > > That is what I've been told by an Exabyte engineer years back. I can only > > guess that some OEMs need adaptations to the firmware behaviour that are > > incompatible with what the rest of the world needs (or has standardised > > on, e.g. in the ANSI SCSI standard). Again, guessing. > > Well, I can only speak for the IBM OEM'd drives that I have (as a > retired IBMer, I've been picking them up at their employee surplus > store here in Austin, TX). For these drives the generic firmware works > just fine. I can see why Exabyte wouldn't openly recommend the change > though. > > Back in the late 80's, when I was still working for IBM on AIX, I do > recall that we did have some customizations in the firmware for the > RS/6K AIX systems. In addition to changing the Inquiry command Vendor > ID data, I believe there were some functional changes (I don't recall > the details). I have always suspected that the functional changes are > likely what made the IBM OEM'd drives fail on FreeBSD! The upgraded > firmware IBM drives work on both (as "Other SCSI Tape Drive"). > > > > > > have have precisely these firmware levels in them (2680 & C034). Also, > > > > Mine works OK with that f/w. Not that I use the 8200 often anymore, > > I like my DLT4000 much better than the 8200. ;-) > > I much prefer my Exabyte Mammouth drives as well :-) > > (But I do seem to get some fun out of playing with the 8200's I get for > $10 apiece from the surplus store :-) > > Bob > > -- > Bob Willcox The man who follows the crowd will usually get no > bob@luke.pmr.com further than the crowd. The man who walks alone is > Austin, TX likely to find himself in places no one has ever > been. -- Alan Ashley-Pitt > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 10:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from independence.ecn.uoknor.edu (independence.ecn.ou.edu [129.15.112.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C29514EDF; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmtodd@mailhost.ecn.ou.edu) Received: from mailhost.ecn.ou.edu([127.0.0.1]) (6447 bytes) by independence.ecn.uoknor.edu via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:24:59 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #1 built 1998-Oct-18) Message-Id: To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Richard Michael Todd , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, inn-workers@isc.org Subject: Re: use of MMAP in new INN code... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:51:44 -0300." Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:21:50 -0500 From: Richard Michael Todd Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Marc Fournier writes: >> >I'm currently investigating a problem with my server that >> >coincedentally(sp?) started right after I upgraded INN to what we >> >currently have... >> > >> >Someone *just* suggested that they thought that 3.2-STABLE of FreeBSD >> >still has a slight bug in MMAP that causes a race condition...it just >> >clued into me that Richard(?) sent out that response to me about Clayton >> >using mmap() more now in nnrpd to share active? Sigh. Well, I said earlier that I hadn't seen that problem on 3.1-STABLE. Well, I spoke too soon. I came in today and saw innd locked in an unkillable wait on vmpfw. I provoked a crash dump out of the system, and managed to get the following info out of gdb, if this is helpful to anyone. I've still got the corefile around if anyone has suggestions on where to look further. P.S. is there any easier way to get process struct addresses out of kgdb other than to keep doing "p (struct proc *)curproc->p_list->le_next->p_list->le_next..." until you find the process struct you're looking for? Script started on Fri Jun 11 12:15:26 1999 Warning: imported path contains relative components skywalker# gdb -k kernel.gdb /var/crash/vmcore.3 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 3477504 initial pcb at 2da934 panic messages: --- --- #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) p *(struct proc *)0xf62e03c0 $1 = {p_procq = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0xf02dacd4}, p_list = { le_next = 0xf62df1e0, le_prev = 0xf62158c8}, p_cred = 0xf1014fc0, p_fd = 0xf0f3ff80, p_stats = 0xf6516214, p_limit = 0xf0cdb200, p_upages_obj = 0xf64527f8, p_procsig = 0xf1014260, p_flag = 5, p_stat = 3 '\003', p_pad1 = "\000\000", p_pid = 87154, p_hash = { le_next = 0xf62e2a40, le_prev = 0xf0c589c8}, p_pglist = { le_next = 0xf62167e0, le_prev = 0xf1015a68}, p_pptr = 0xf6218e60, p_sibling = {le_next = 0xf62e07e0, le_prev = 0xf6218eb0}, p_children = { lh_first = 0xf62167e0}, p_ithandle = {callout = 0xf357d290}, p_oppid = 0, p_dupfd = 0, p_vmspace = 0xf62d8980, p_estcpu = 43, p_cpticks = 0, p_pctcpu = 0, p_wchan = 0xf04dd610, p_wmesg = 0xf02af73a "vmpfw", p_swtime = 24351, p_slptime = 22360, p_realtimer = {it_interval = { tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 0}, it_value = {tv_sec = 0, tv_usec = 0}}, p_runtime = 162720418, p_switchtime = {tv_sec = 571212, tv_usec = 964442}, p_uticks = 17177, p_sticks = 3063, p_iticks = 576, p_traceflag = 0, p_tracep = 0x0, p_siglist = 524544, p_textvp = 0xf6440880, p_lock = 1 '\001', p_oncpu = 0 '\000', p_lastcpu = 0 '\000', p_pad2 = 0 '\000', p_locks = 0, p_simple_locks = 0, p_stops = 0, p_stype = 0, p_step = 0 '\000', p_pfsflags = 0 '\000', p_pad3 = "\000", p_retval = {0, 134813312}, p_sigiolst = {slh_first = 0x0}, p_sigparent = 20, p_oldsigmask = 0, p_sig = 0, p_code = 0, p_sigmask = 0, p_priority = 0 '\000', p_usrpri = 60 '<', p_nice = 0 '\000', p_comm = "innd\000tart\000\000\000\000\000\000\000", p_pgrp = 0xf1015a60, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- p_sysent = 0xf02c4244, p_rtprio = {type = 1, prio = 0}, p_addr = 0xf6516000, p_md = {md_regs = 0xf6517fbc}, p_xstat = 0, p_acflag = 1, p_ru = 0x0, p_nthreads = 0, p_aioinfo = 0x0, p_wakeup = 0, p_peers = 0x0, p_leader = 0xf62e03c0, p_asleep = {as_priority = 0, as_timo = 0}} (kgdb) proc 0xf62e03c0 (kgdb) bt #0 mi_switch () at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:830 #1 0xf015e70d in tsleep (ident=0xf04dd610, priority=0, wmesg=0xf02af73a "vmpfw", timo=0) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:448 #2 0xf021f356 in vm_fault (map=0xf62d8980, vaddr=689999872, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:308 #3 0xf0248e76 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf6517fbc, usermode=1, eva=690002184) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:816 #4 0xf02489f6 in trap (frame={tf_es = -272695257, tf_ds = -272695257, tf_edi = 136365588, tf_esi = 136896512, tf_ebp = -272640264, tf_isp = -162431004, tf_ebx = 140668256, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 690002184, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 4, tf_eip = 134553715, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -272641860, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:358 #5 0x8052073 in ?? () #6 0x805b282 in ?? () #7 0x805c5c4 in ?? () #8 0x805ccba in ?? () #9 0x8057e00 in ?? () #10 0x805ad36 in ?? () #11 0x804e521 in ?? () (kgdb) fr 2 #2 0xf021f356 in vm_fault (map=0xf62d8980, vaddr=689999872, fault_type=1 '\001', fault_flags=0) at ../../vm/vm_fault.c:308 308 tsleep(fs.m, PSWP, "vmpfw", 0); (kgdb) l 303 unlock_things(&fs); 304 s = splvm(); 305 if ((fs.m->flags & PG_BUSY) || fs.m->busy) { 306 vm_page_flag_set(fs.m, PG_WANTED | PG_REFERENCED); 307 cnt.v_intrans++; 308 tsleep(fs.m, PSWP, "vmpfw", 0); 309 } 310 splx(s); 311 vm_object_deallocate(fs.first_object); 312 goto RetryFault; (kgdb) p fs.m $2 = (struct vm_page *) 0xf04dd610 (kgdb) p fs.m[0][0] $3 = {pageq = {tqe_next = 0xf05aca14, tqe_prev = 0xf02d0288}, hashq = { tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0xf043a940}, listq = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0xf62d2018}, object = 0xf62d2000, pindex = 81, phys_addr = 48844800, queue = 129, flags = 162, pc = 21, wire_count = 0, hold_count = 0, act_count = 5 '\005', busy = 1 '\001', valid = 255 'ÿ', dirty = 0 '\000'} (kgdb) q skywalker# Script done on Fri Jun 11 12:18:45 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 13:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C7E15444 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28870; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990611134603.A28852@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:46:03 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "John W. DeBoskey" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall manpage installation question Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199906080256.WAA48269@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199906080256.WAA48269@bb01f39.unx.sas.com>; from John W. DeBoskey on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 10:56:08PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On this machine, the sysinstall manpage is not installed onto > the system during make world. Yes, it is because ``make world'' does not build & install sysinstall. Thus you do not get the manpage. I was going to add the manpage to the normal ``make world'', but I could not find a clean place to put it in /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 13:48:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29CF14CA1 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28885; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990611134745.B28852@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:47:45 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199906081435.KAA78215@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199906081435.KAA78215@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 10:35:07AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are not there any other uses for it? Like "xinetd"? If everything else > (the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd as well? BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEEDED by the base system. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 13:57:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A24615315 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA81605; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:56:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906112056.QAA81605@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports? In-Reply-To: <19990611134745.B28852@nuxi.com> from "David O'Brien" at "Jun 11, 1999 01:47:45 pm" To: obrien@NUXI.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien once wrote: > > Are not there any other uses for it? Like "xinetd"? If everything > > else (the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd > > as well? > > BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEEDED by the base system. It's Ok, no need to yell. There are a number of things, not needed by the system, that are in the system. Not just the fortran and xtend, but also, say, bc(1) or cal(1). It may be usefull, and it requires no effort to have -- in fact, it probably needed some effort to be ripped out. But most importantly, it is hard to _add_ gracefuly to an installed system. Porter will have to work hard to make the tcp_wrapper port work with the system libwrap, while having two libwrap-s is just plain ugly. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 17:22:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F0B14F34 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggm@azure.dstc.edu.au) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25960 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:22:48 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ggm@localhost) by azure.dstc.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.4) id KAA19913 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:22:43 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:22:43 +1000 (EST) From: George Michaelson Message-Id: <199906120022.KAA19913@azure.dstc.edu.au> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newbus, sio performance and 'the worst interrupt culprit' Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I too have current (as of last week), newbus, and sio as well as pcm0 I see heaps of lost interrupts. The mail archive has one message saying "newbus broke fast interrupts' but no (not much?) followup to clarify (a) if its still true and (b) what exactly it implies for finding which driver is stealing the interrupt cycle time and causing byteloss on the serial ports. Can somebody provide a canonical answer to why for some people the serial driver performance is off right now? cheers -George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 21: 6:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from monet.titania.net (monet.titania.net [209.207.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC914EA8 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jtk@titania.net) Received: from titania.net (dega.titania.net [209.207.60.18]) by monet.titania.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA04032 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:26:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3761DD82.B72DCAA0@titania.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 23:09:38 -0500 From: "Joseph T. Klein" Organization: Titania Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Real Producer and FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone gotten real producer to run under FreeBSD, or am I to resort to Linux? -- jtk@titania.net [arin-jk70] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 11 22:28:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C32150F0 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id OAA03919; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:28:09 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3761EF1E.BCB3C092@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:24:46 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joseph T. Klein" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real Producer and FreeBSD References: <3761DD82.B72DCAA0@titania.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Joseph T. Klein" wrote: > > Has anyone gotten real producer to run under FreeBSD, or am > I to resort to Linux? Whatever is you are calling a "producer" (in my vocabulary, it is a resource generation agent), if there is one that runs on Linux, why not use it under FreeBSD? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Given infinite time, 100 monkeys could type out the complete works of Shakespeare. Win 98 source code? Eight monkeys, five minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 5:56: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from buzz.slic.com (buzz.slic.com [206.25.233.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A30FD14E63 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:56:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrongway@slic.com) Received: (qmail 5283 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 1999 12:56:02 -0000 Received: from sysctl.urban-a.net (HELO woodhull.sciny.net) (jontow@206.150.81.10) by buzz.slic.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 1999 12:56:02 -0000 From: Jonathan Towne Reply-To: wrongway@slic.com To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: vm code Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:40:51 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061208513808.72223@woodhull.sciny.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG just wondering about this, because after the new vm code was committed, and i had done a "make world," i found something that didn't work as it did before, i'm not totally sure if it's due to the new vm code or not, but, my only amusement (Quake 1) doesn't run anymore.. The appropriate (or, rather what i think appropriate information), is included below: $ ./quake.x11 -nosound Added packfile ./id1/pak0.pak (339 files) Added packfile ./id1/pak1.pak (85 files) Added packfile ./id1/pak2.pak (81 files) Added packfile ./id1/pak3.pak (57 files) ----snip, seeing as how there is a long list of crap here----- ========Quake Initialized========= Linux Quake -- Version 1.200 ----another snip---- ----now, it starts the game, adding all the models and whatnot---- PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : progs/zombie.mdl PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : progs/h_zombie.mdl [02] VERSION 1.09 SERVER (39537 CRC) [1d][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1f] [02]Introduction Error: Stack is missaligned VID_Shutdown $ ^-- drops me back to a prompt... thats as far as i get, even when i don't use my second and third "pakfiles" which are just the teamfortress and headhunters modifications, respectively. my system happens to be a p166, with 32meg of RAM, running a -CURRENT version, not exactly up-to-date with the kernel, only because i've done a few more "make installworld's" than i have installed kernels FreeBSD woodhull.sciny.net 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Wed May 26 18:30:27 EST 1999 jontow@woodhull.sciny.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WOODHULL i386 Hope somebody can help me with this problem.. i haven't found anything else that has done anything like that, but, I also would rather not ;) -- Jonathan Towne wrongway@slic.com Systems Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 7:37: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7839A14C07; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from moon.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp524.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.174]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA00232; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:37:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from sky.rim.or.jp (earth.sky.rim.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by moon.sky.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl4/moon-1.0) with ESMTP id XAA12573; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:36:58 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37627047.D5610AB4@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:35:51 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [ja] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-current , FreeBSD-hackers Subject: FYI: CVS commit log mail notification service in Japan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We set up open majordomo mailing lists of CVS commit log for Japanese local CVS repository. Currently, there are three ML available. To subscribe, send subscribe command to majordomo@jp.freebsd.org as usual: ----- subscribe cvs-newconfig subscribe cvs-pao subscribe cvs-pao3 ----- # cvs-pao means PAO for RELENG_2_2, cvs-pao3 means PAO for RELENG_3. You can also browse Japanese local CVS repository via cvsweb interface. If you want to see it, please visit here: http://www.jp.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi?cvsroot=freebsd-jp -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 8:12:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8D514E81 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA05903; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:12:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Jonathan Towne Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm code In-Reply-To: <99061208513808.72223@woodhull.sciny.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Jonathan Towne wrote: > just wondering about this, because after the new vm code was committed, and i > had done a "make world," i found something that didn't work as it did before, > i'm not totally sure if it's due to the new vm code or not, but, my only > amusement (Quake 1) doesn't run anymore.. The appropriate (or, rather what i > think appropriate information), is included below: > > $ ./quake.x11 -nosound > Added packfile ./id1/pak0.pak (339 files) > Added packfile ./id1/pak1.pak (85 files) > Added packfile ./id1/pak2.pak (81 files) > Added packfile ./id1/pak3.pak (57 files) > ----snip, seeing as how there is a long list of crap here----- > ========Quake Initialized========= > Linux Quake -- Version 1.200 > ----another snip---- > ----now, it starts the game, adding all the models and whatnot---- > > PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : progs/zombie.mdl > PackFile: ./id1/pak0.pak : progs/h_zombie.mdl > [02] > VERSION 1.09 SERVER (39537 CRC) > > [1d][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1e][1f] > > [02]Introduction > Error: Stack is missaligned Can you send me a disassembly of that part of the code? If I knew exactly why the stack was considered misaligned, then I could help. > VID_Shutdown > $ > ^-- drops me back to a prompt... thats as far as i get, even when i don't use > my second and third "pakfiles" which are just the teamfortress and headhunters > modifications, respectively. > > my system happens to be a p166, with 32meg of RAM, running a -CURRENT > version, not exactly up-to-date with the kernel, only because i've done a few > more "make installworld's" than i have installed kernels > > FreeBSD woodhull.sciny.net 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: > Wed May 26 18:30:27 EST 1999 > jontow@woodhull.sciny.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/WOODHULL i386 > > Hope somebody can help me with this problem.. i haven't found anything > else that has done anything like that, but, I also would rather not ;) > > > -- > Jonathan Towne wrongway@slic.com > Systems Administrator > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___)___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 10: 9:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69D014DB8 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdean@mindspring.com) Received: from vger.foo.com (user-2ivf0cj.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.129.147]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAB17855 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.foo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01277; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:08:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) From: Brian Dean Message-Id: <199906121708.NAA01277@vger.foo.com> Subject: can't install on machine with 8 Meg To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:08:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm installing 4.0-19990610-SNAP onto a machine with 8 Meg of memory and it fails as follows: pid 6 (sh), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space The handbook claims that you can run the system in as little as 4 meg. It is very misleading to claim this if you can't install it. Or maybe I've missed some special instructions for installing the system on a low-memory machine? Thanks, -Brian -- Brian Dean brdean@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 10:14:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from monet.titania.net (monet.titania.net [209.207.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C832A14DB8; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jtk@titania.net) Received: from titania.net (dega.titania.net [209.207.60.18]) by monet.titania.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA71403; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:37:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3762960B.7D723FB6@titania.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:16:59 -0500 From: "Joseph T. Klein" Organization: Titania Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real Producer and FreeBSD References: <3761DD82.B72DCAA0@titania.net> <3761EF1E.BCB3C092@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To clarify ... Real Producer is the program that performs the encoding of Real Audio streams. I would prefer to run it under FreeBSD but am having problems related to its willingness to play with libc6 and glibstdc++2.8. I was hoping to check my setup with someone else attempting to do or having done the same. "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > "Joseph T. Klein" wrote: > > > > Has anyone gotten real producer to run under FreeBSD, or am > > I to resort to Linux? > > Whatever is you are calling a "producer" (in my vocabulary, it is a > resource generation agent), if there is one that runs on Linux, why > not use it under FreeBSD? > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > Given infinite time, 100 monkeys could type out the complete works > of Shakespeare. > Win 98 source code? Eight monkeys, five minutes. -- jtk@titania.net [arin-jk70] "Various predictions have fiber links arriving on our doorsteps in 25 or 30 years." Special Report: Local Loop Access, February 1999 Network Magazine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 13: 5:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles540.castles.com [208.214.165.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7918614BFA for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01001; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906122002.NAA01001@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Brian Dean Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't install on machine with 8 Meg In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:08:00 EDT." <199906121708.NAA01277@vger.foo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:02:52 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I'm installing 4.0-19990610-SNAP onto a machine with 8 Meg of memory > and it fails as follows: > > pid 6 (sh), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space > > The handbook claims that you can run the system in as little as 4 meg. > It is very misleading to claim this if you can't install it. Or maybe > I've missed some special instructions for installing the system on a > low-memory machine? Run != install. Install on a system with more memory and move the disk. It's also possible (depending on which phase you're at) that you've not made a swap partition. Note also that the handbook typically refers to -stable, not -current. That may be irrelevant in this particular case, however, as I don't know of any tests on 4M systems for 3.2. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 13:11:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CFF14BFA for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:11:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial9-251.netcologne.de [194.8.195.251]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29896; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:11:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01925; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:11:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199906122011.WAA01925@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: jclarke@cisco.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it In-reply-to: (message from Joe Clarke on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:00:21 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: scanpci Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > scanpci: Never noticed this utility before. Hmm.. no man page.. part of XFree86.. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 16:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8A114E17 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18413.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.93]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20150; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA70459; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:24:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:24:10 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Brian Dean Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't install on machine with 8 Meg Message-ID: <19990612192410.A70348@mad> References: <199906121708.NAA01277@vger.foo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199906121708.NAA01277@vger.foo.com>; from Brian Dean on Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 01:08:00PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 01:08:00PM -0400, Brian Dean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm installing 4.0-19990610-SNAP onto a machine with 8 Meg of memory > and it fails as follows: > > pid 6 (sh), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space There's a rumour going around that you need 12 meg to install. Why, I don't know. > The handbook claims that you can run the system in as little as 4 meg. > It is very misleading to claim this if you can't install it. Or maybe I think that the handbook (or the installation instructions) also state that you need either 5meg or 8meg to install. Somebody filed a bugreport that you actually need 12 meg to install these days. Anyways, since you're the second (at least) person to say that 8meg wasn't enough, the instructions probably should be changed. It is true that you can run a system with as little as 4 meg. I've installed 2.2 on a system with 4 meg (it was one of the ones that had a cool motherboard and needed 4 meg instead of 5). Joerg claims he used to run FreeBSD on a system with only 2 meg. You can't use the GENERIC installation kernel to run on these low-memory machines, though. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 16:52:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09814DD3 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: from lca66.cvzoom.net (lca66.cvzoom.net [63.65.158.66]) by ns.cvzoom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03260 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed FreeBSD-current from scratch, and I'm getting this error when I try to install a port. Even after I cvsup'd the latest -current, I still got this error. I think that maybe cvsup isn't updating certain files properly. -- Donn dmmiller@cvzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 17:45:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from beach.silcom.com (beach.silcom.com [199.201.128.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51514C26 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from smarter.than.nu (pm0-5.vpop1.avtel.net [207.71.237.5]) by beach.silcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F855B32; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-Sender: brian@smarter.than.nu To: Donn Miller Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 12 Jun 1999, Donn Miller wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD-current from scratch, and I'm getting this > error when I try to install a port. Even after I cvsup'd the latest > -current, I still got this error. > > I think that maybe cvsup isn't updating certain files properly. Or perhaps you don't have "ports-all" in your supfile? -- Brian Buchanan brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU -------------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org daemon(n): 1. an attendant power or spirit : GENIUS 2. the cute little mascot of the FreeBSD operating system To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 17:48:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from miles.lambdawerks.org (dlci096.isomedia.com [209.102.112.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4803E14C26 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reggie@lambdawerks.org) Received: from trane.lambdawerks.org (trane.lambdawerks.org [209.102.113.58]) by miles.lambdawerks.org (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA93250 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reggie@lambdawerks.org) Received: from trane.lambdawerks.org (localhost.lambdawerks.org [127.0.0.1]) by trane.lambdawerks.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15241 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:48:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reggie@trane.lambdawerks.org) Message-Id: <199906130048.RAA15241@trane.lambdawerks.org> Reply-To: reggie@lambdawerks.org X-Mailer: MH 6.8.4 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Panics on my SMP system Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:48:12 -0700 From: "Reginald S. Perry" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I recently had a crash on my SMP system. Actually, I have had a number of crashes over the past six months, but have just recently had time to configure the system to get the crash dumps. Like a good citizen, I filed a problem report (kern/12127). I have now gotten another crash. I have attached the backtrace from the crash dump. If you refer to kern/12127, you will get all of the gory details about my setup.I would like to know two things. Should I file a separate problem report for this crash? Second, is there somewhere that I should upload the vmcores and the kernel.debug for the relevant developer to examine? Thanks, -Reggie trane# gdb -k /usr/src/sys/compile/TRANE/kernel.debug ./vmcore.1 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... SMP 2 cpus IdlePTD 3325952 initial pcb at 2aee40 panicstr: from debugger panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 fault virtual address = 0xe37295b0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014ec05 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc6f5ae28 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc6f5ae38 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 365 (communicator-4.6) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam <- SMP: XXX panic: from debugger mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 panic: from debugger mp_lock = 01000003; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 boot() called on cpu#1 dumping to dev (4,131081), offset 280576 dump 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:288 288 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:288 #1 0xc014c7d5 in panic (fmt=0xc025fdf4 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:451 #2 0xc012e8ed in db_panic (addr=-1072370683, have_addr=0, count=1, modif=0xc6f5aca4 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:434 #3 0xc012e88d in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc028c050, cmd_table=0xc028beb0, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc02ac554) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:334 #4 0xc012e952 in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:456 #5 0xc0130ab3 in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #6 0xc0212fbe in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xc6f5ade8) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:157 #7 0xc0225c8e in trap_fatal (frame=0xc6f5ade8, eva=3815937456) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:903 #8 0xc0225925 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc6f5ade8, usermode=0, eva=3815937456) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:801 #9 0xc022556f in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -958059680, tf_esi = -958059200, tf_ebp = -956977608, tf_isp = -956977644, tf_ebx = -958059680, tf_edx = -1070804384, tf_ecx = 16777217, tf_eax = -479029840, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1072370683, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66194, tf_esp = -958059680, tf_ss = -958059200}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:427 #10 0xc014ec05 in wakeup (ident=0xc6e52b60) at ../../kern/kern_synch.c:692 #11 0xc015a90f in pipeclose (cpipe=0xc6e52d40) at ../../kern/sys_pipe.c:1099 #12 0xc015a82c in pipe_close (fp=0xc0bdb780, p=0xc648df20) at ../../kern/sys_pipe.c:1065 #13 0xc014507c in closef (fp=0xc0bdb780, p=0xc648df20) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1082 #14 0xc0144e60 in fdfree (p=0xc648df20) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:994 #15 0xc014632a in exit1 (p=0xc648df20, rv=10) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:201 #16 0xc014db96 in sigexit (p=0xc648df20, signum=10) at ../../kern/kern_sig.c:1251 #17 0xc014d9d9 in postsig (signum=10) at ../../kern/kern_sig.c:1157 #18 0xc0225fee in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 13495712, tf_esi = 9470, tf_ebp = -1077955960, tf_isp = -956977196, tf_ebx = 11829344, tf_edx = 342, tf_ecx = 103029, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 548769888, tf_err = 7, tf_eip = 550790017, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 662, tf_esp = -1077955976, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:163 #19 0x20d46381 in ?? 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() (kgdb) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 21:11:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6332E14C38 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA65201; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:11:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906130411.VAA65201@apollo.backplane.com> To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: Garrett Wollman , Brian Feldman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ? References: <199906052344.TAA19843@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060057.UAA20103@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199906060626.XAA17701@apollo.backplane.com> <86d7z6j89k.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :>> This wouldn't help the poor sod whose connection gets shot down every :>> eight days while he's not there and doesn't know what hit him. :> If the poor sod hasn't touched his xterm for 8 days, he's either dead :> or he doesn't care if it goes away. : :Again, Matt, with all due respect, please do not post your operational :habits as universals. Somebody who keeps a session to a server around :so they can see syslog messages if there's a problem may have an idle :connection for weeks. : :In case you still doubt the existance of such a person, I give you a :counterexample. Having just spoken with nemo, I am quite certain that :he is alive and well, and from my dealings with him have no doubt he :would become somewhat miffed if I were to kill off several of his :sessions. : :Cheers, :joelh Turning on keepalives would not change the effectiveness of leaving these xterms open if syslog is being tailed. If there is a network problem, the connections will terminate from a data timeout due to the syslog messages being transmitted over the connection long before it would terminate from a keepalive timeout. I'm not saying that a person fitting the profile doesn't exist, I'm saying that there are so few of these people that the benefits outway the issues by several orders of magnitude. I can only repeat: Turn them on and see if they effect you. You will almost certainly find that they do not effect you. Ask your friend to turn them on and see if they effect him. If he's tailing syslog in those windows they won't effect him. -Matt :detlev$ finger nemo@[deleted] :[[deleted]] :Login: nemo Name: Joel N. Weber II :Directory: /gb/nemo Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash :On since Thu Jun 03 23:49 (EDT) on tty1 2 days 3 hours idle :On since Wed May 19 14:43 (EDT) on tty2 27 minutes 34 seconds idle :On since Sun May 30 22:24 (EDT) on tty3 2 days 1 hour idle :On since Sun May 30 22:27 (EDT) on tty4 2 days 3 hours idle :... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 21:57:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB614F8E; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA65569; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906130455.VAA65569@apollo.backplane.com> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Over the past week and a bit, the INN -CURRENT source tree had a major :upheaval of code, in order to fix the major problem where reader speed :sucked. What used to take >1min to load up a newsgruop now generally :takes mere seconds (no exaggeration, try it)... : :The problem is that the new code makes *heavy* use of MMAP() ... : :When the code was put in place, I immediately upgraded my server to give :the code a good test (am one of the developers over there) in a production :environment, and ever since then, my system locks up around 24hrs uptime, :requiring a cold boot. : :I cannot get into DDB, since I'm over a serial console, so debugging this :has proved to be next to impossible :( I'll bet that it is another mmap/write deadlock. :I run CURRENT at home and STABLE in production, but the production server :is the only one that I believe has enough load on her to be able to :trigger it... : :Is this a problem that is fixed in CURRENT, but hasn't migrated down into :STABLE? Is there any way of adding some sort of debug code to STABLE such :that if the race condition is trigger, it will at least pop up a message :onto the console letting me know its happened so that I know its MMAP() :related? : :Thanks... :Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy If it is what I think it is, it is *NOT* yet fixed in -current. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jun 12 21:59:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9791815028; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA65612; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199906130459.VAA65612@apollo.backplane.com> To: "David E. Cross" Cc: The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ... References: <199906091754.NAA34746@cs.rpi.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Anyway, I have a simple program that mmap()s a 1Gig file into memory, :madvise()s it that it will be doing random access. If I quit and restart :this program a couple of times (yes, it close()s and munmap()s the segment), :my system will hard lock. By dropping into DDB once I found that it was :stuck in 'vm_somethingorother_choosepage'. Does this ring any bells? Should :I try to stop my system again? : :-- :David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu David, can you email this program to me please? Also, which FreeBSD release does this occur on? I've got about 6 mmap-related bugs on my plate at the moment. 3 of them have been identified ( that is, I know why they deadlock the machine ), but none have been fixed yet. -Matt Matthew Dillon :Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd :Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 :Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 :I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD : : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message