From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 11:41: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF4A14D8A; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abysstwo.abyssworld.de (dip-011.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.11]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA03295; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:47:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Haischt Organization: AbyssSoft To: Philip Hallstrom Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:20:05 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-=_WfAZyzAZOHsNGHcxSfUBSnsNWfUJ" References: Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051320391202.60546@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk --Boundary-=_WfAZyzAZOHsNGHcxSfUBSnsNWfUJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HIYA Sorry for answering ur mail so late, but compiling Apache keeps me bussy ;-) To be honest I just found why Apache/PHP with oracle support wont compile. Regarding to my last compiler output (as attachement to this mail) I'm sure Oracle libs which can be found under $ORACLE_HOME/lib aren't compatibel to standart linux emulation (linux_lib 2.6). I know there was someone who builds a special linux port for Oracle8 but I cant remember the URL of this port, sorry though. Maybe the one who buold this port is able to send us the URL again ... BTW - If I compile PHP without Oracle support everything compiles just fine. Yea - Finally its very frustrating I spent now about two weeks to get Apache/PHP/Oracle compiled, asked alot of peoples at my company but wasnt able to solf this problem. The only thing I realized is that its better to get all sources form their original distributors than to use the ported application, cause u have a 100% controll over what u are doing and over the configuration/compilation process. Anyway - Maybe someone has a idea how to get Apache/PHP/Oracle compiled. Best Regards Daniel Haischt ============================= Am Mi , 12 Mai 1999 schrieben Sie: > Hi - > I saw your question in the mailing list about getting > apache/php/oracle8 to work on freebsd... did you ever find a solution? > I'm at the same point and am getting frustrated... > > thanks -philip --Boundary-=_WfAZyzAZOHsNGHcxSfUBSnsNWfUJ Content-Type: text/plain; name="coredump" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="coredump" PD09PSBzcmMvYXAKPT09PiBzcmMvbWFpbgpnY2MgLWMgLUkuLiAgLUkvdXNyL2xpYmRhdGEvcGVy bC81LjAwNTAyL21hY2gvQ09SRSAtSS4uL29zL3VuaXggLUkuLi9pbmNsdWRlICAgLWZ1bnNpZ25l ZC1jaGFyIC1ETU9EX1NTTD0yMDIxMDggLURNT0RfUEVSTCAtRFVTRV9QRVJMX1NTSSAgLURVU0Vf SFNSRUdFWCAtREVBUEkgLWZwaWMgLURTSEFSRURfQ09SRSBgLi4vYXBhY2lgIGdlbl90ZXN0X2No YXIuYwpnY2MgIC1mdW5zaWduZWQtY2hhciAtRE1PRF9TU0w9MjAyMTA4IC1ETU9EX1BFUkwgLURV U0VfUEVSTF9TU0kgIC1EVVNFX0hTUkVHRVggLURFQVBJIC1mcGljIC1EU0hBUkVEX0NPUkUgYC4u L2FwYWNpYCAgIC1vIGdlbl90ZXN0X2NoYXIgZ2VuX3Rlc3RfY2hhci5vICAtTG1vZHVsZXMvcGhw MyAtTC4uL21vZHVsZXMvcGhwMyAtTC4uLy4uL21vZHVsZXMvcGhwMyAtbG1vZHBocDMgLUwvY2Ry b20vb3JhY2xlODA1MWVlX2ludGVsL2xpYiAtV2wsLXJwYXRoLC9jZHJvbS9vcmFjbGU4MDUxZWVf aW50ZWwvbGliIC1sY2xudHNoIC1scHNhIC1sY29yZTQgLWxubHNydGwzIC1sY2xudHNoIC1sbSAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgLWx6ICAgICAgICAgICAgLWxleHBhdCAgICAgLWxwYW0gLWxtIC1s Y3J5cHQgICAtbGNyeXB0IC1sZ2RibSAgIC1XbCwtRSAgL3Vzci9saWJkYXRhL3BlcmwvNS4wMDUw Mi9tYWNoL2F1dG8vRHluYUxvYWRlci9EeW5hTG9hZGVyLmEgLUwvdXNyL2xpYmRhdGEvcGVybC81 LjAwNTAyL21hY2gvQ09SRSAtbHBlcmwgLWxtIC1sYyAtbGNyeXB0IC1scGVybAovdXNyL2xpYmV4 ZWMvZWxmL2xkOiB3YXJuaW5nOiBsaWJtLnNvLjYsIG5lZWRlZCBieSAvY2Ryb20vb3JhY2xlODA1 MWVlX2ludGVsL2xpYi9saWJjbG50c2guc28sIG1heSBjb25mbGljdCB3aXRoIGxpYm0uc28uMgov dXNyL2xpYmV4ZWMvZWxmL2xkOiB3YXJuaW5nOiBsaWJjLnNvLjYsIG5lZWRlZCBieSAvY2Ryb20v b3JhY2xlODA1MWVlX2ludGVsL2xpYi9saWJjbG50c2guc28sIG1heSBjb25mbGljdCB3aXRoIGxp YmMuc28uMwovdXNyL2xpYi9saWJjLnNvLjY6IHdhcm5pbmc6IHRoaXMgcHJvZ3JhbSB1c2VzIGdl dHMoKSwgd2hpY2ggaXMgdW5zYWZlLgouL2dlbl90ZXN0X2NoYXIgPnRlc3RfY2hhci5oClNlZ21l bnRhdGlvbiBmYXVsdCAtIGNvcmUgZHVtcGVkCioqKiBFcnJvciBjb2RlIDEzOQoKU3RvcC4KKioq IEVycm9yIGNvZGUgMQoKU3RvcC4KKioqIEVycm9yIGNvZGUgMQoKU3RvcC4KKioqIEVycm9yIGNv ZGUgMQoKU3RvcC4gCg== --Boundary-=_WfAZyzAZOHsNGHcxSfUBSnsNWfUJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 13: 5:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437B51513E; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21136; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:05:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199905132005.WAA21136@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <99051320391202.60546@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> from Daniel Haischt at "May 13, 1999 8:20: 5 pm" To: danielh@privat.toplink.de (Daniel Haischt) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:05:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: philip@adhesivemedia.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems Daniel Haischt wrote: > HIYA > > Sorry for answering ur mail so late, but compiling Apache keeps me bussy ;-) > > To be honest I just found why Apache/PHP with oracle support wont compile. > Regarding to my last compiler output (as attachement to this mail) I'm sure > Oracle libs which can be found under $ORACLE_HOME/lib aren't > compatibel to standart linux emulation (linux_lib 2.6). It wont compile under native FreeBSD, you will need to compile the whole thing with linux libs/tools/etc etc etc. I'm not sure if our linux-devel thing is up to the job, but I dont think so (yet). You would be better of doing the compile on a Linux box and move the bins to the FreeBSD box (and hope for the best). Belive me, been there tried that, not with apache/php but with a major oracle app. It just not feasible as long as we dont have a native Oracle, I got sick of the messy includes and what not on Linux and at last gave up, I didn't want a Linux port I wanted a FreeBSD port. Sorry... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 13:13: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from burlap.eilio.com (eilio.com [216.160.67.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1A1514B; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by burlap.eilio.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA88012; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-Sender: philip@burlap.eilio.com To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Daniel Haischt , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <199905132005.WAA21136@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Well, that kind of sucks, doesn't it. Good to know though... I'll stop banging my head against the wall :) On a different note - What do you think is the best way to get Oracle's attention? Lots and lots of polite email? A mass of signatures? Who's the best person to contact there? I've emailed a couple different depts and never hear back. I'd be happy to provide server resources for the collection of names, or write an app that sends email on your behalf (assuming you fill out the form :). What do people think? =20 -philip On Thu, 13 May 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Daniel Haischt wrote: > > HIYA > >=20 > > Sorry for answering ur mail so late, but compiling Apache keeps me buss= y ;-) > >=20 > > To be honest I just found why Apache/PHP with oracle support wont compi= le. > > Regarding to my last compiler output (as attachement to this mail) I'm = sure > > Oracle libs which can be found under $ORACLE_HOME/lib aren't > > compatibel to standart linux emulation (linux_lib 2.6). >=20 > It wont compile under native FreeBSD, you will need to compile the > whole thing with linux libs/tools/etc etc etc. I'm not sure if > our linux-devel thing is up to the job, but I dont think so (yet). >=20 > You would be better of doing the compile on a Linux box and move > the bins to the FreeBSD box (and hope for the best). >=20 > Belive me, been there tried that, not with apache/php but with a major > oracle app. It just not feasible as long as we dont have a native > Oracle, I got sick of the messy includes and what not on Linux and > at last gave up, I didn't want a Linux port I wanted a FreeBSD port. >=20 > Sorry... >=20 > -S=F8ren >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 13:21:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (web130.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E8B914E6D for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jraube@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990513202207.8999.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [32.96.131.2] by web130.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:22:07 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:22:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Raube Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... To: Philip Hallstrom , Soren Schmidt Cc: Daniel Haischt , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've been banging my head against the wall, too. I'd be happy to send email, etc. -Joe --- Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Well, that kind of sucks, doesn't it. Good to know though... I'll stop > banging my head against the wall :) > > On a different note - What do you think is the best way to get Oracle's > attention? Lots and lots of polite email? A mass of signatures? Who's > the best person to contact there? I've emailed a couple different depts > and never hear back. > > I'd be happy to provide server resources for the collection of names, or > write an app that sends email on your behalf (assuming you fill out the > form :). > > What do people think? > > -philip > > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > > It seems Daniel Haischt wrote: > > > HIYA > > > > > > Sorry for answering ur mail so late, but compiling Apache keeps me bussy > ;-) > > > > > > To be honest I just found why Apache/PHP with oracle support wont > compile. > > > Regarding to my last compiler output (as attachement to this mail) I'm > sure > > > Oracle libs which can be found under $ORACLE_HOME/lib aren't > > > compatibel to standart linux emulation (linux_lib 2.6). > > > > It wont compile under native FreeBSD, you will need to compile the > > whole thing with linux libs/tools/etc etc etc. I'm not sure if > > our linux-devel thing is up to the job, but I dont think so (yet). > > > > You would be better of doing the compile on a Linux box and move > > the bins to the FreeBSD box (and hope for the best). > > > > Belive me, been there tried that, not with apache/php but with a major > > oracle app. It just not feasible as long as we dont have a native > > Oracle, I got sick of the messy includes and what not on Linux and > > at last gave up, I didn't want a Linux port I wanted a FreeBSD port. > > > > Sorry... > > > > -Søren > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 14:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (pinnacle.internet.co.nz [210.48.55.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6354A14E09; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.2]) by kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00679; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:03:35 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:03:35 +1200 (NZST) From: Jonathan Chen To: Philip Hallstrom Cc: Soren Schmidt , Daniel Haischt , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Well, that kind of sucks, doesn't it. Good to know though... I'll stop > banging my head against the wall :) > > On a different note - What do you think is the best way to get Oracle's > attention? Lots and lots of polite email? A mass of signatures? Who's > the best person to contact there? I've emailed a couple different depts > and never hear back. > > I'd be happy to provide server resources for the collection of names, or > write an app that sends email on your behalf (assuming you fill out the > form :). > > What do people think? Yes, this sounds like a good idea. Trying to convince clients to go with FreeBSD would be a heckuva lot easier if only *ONE* of the big 3 database vendors would come online. Hmm. I suppose a program that autogenerates a slightly different letter each time would be out of the question? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 14:13: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from burlap.eilio.com (eilio.com [216.160.67.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D81A14E09; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by burlap.eilio.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA88742; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:14:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-Sender: philip@burlap.eilio.com To: Jonathan Chen Cc: Soren Schmidt , Daniel Haischt , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. I'm thinking something like this: Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. Options: - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, substiting your name and email, etc. - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and looping). - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. Also, every unique email gets added to a list, and displayed on a page. This url is included in all the emails to Oracle so they can see just how many people have signed up. I'd be happy to write the scripts to do this and host it, but I'm going to need help writing the letters and figuring out who the best person to send this to at oracle is. Thoughts? -philip [snip] > > On a different note - What do you think is the best way to get Oracle's > > attention? Lots and lots of polite email? A mass of signatures? Who's > > the best person to contact there? I've emailed a couple different depts > > and never hear back. > > > > I'd be happy to provide server resources for the collection of names, or > > write an app that sends email on your behalf (assuming you fill out the > > form :). > > > > What do people think? > > Yes, this sounds like a good idea. Trying to convince clients to go > with FreeBSD would be a heckuva lot easier if only *ONE* of the big 3 > database vendors would come online. > > Hmm. I suppose a program that autogenerates a slightly different letter > each time would be out of the question? > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 14:26: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCADB14FD1; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01880; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:45:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Philip Hallstrom Cc: Jonathan Chen , Soren Schmidt , Daniel Haischt , freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone > would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. > > I'm thinking something like this: > > Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name > (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. > > Options: > - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, > substiting your name and email, etc. > - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and > looping). > - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, > or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. > > Also, every unique email gets added to a list, and displayed on a page. > This url is included in all the emails to Oracle so they can see just how > many people have signed up. > > > > I'd be happy to write the scripts to do this and host it, but I'm going to > need help writing the letters and figuring out who the best person to send > this to at oracle is. > > Thoughts? I was thinking more of something like: Name: Title: Company: Number of Emp: Planned use of oracle: Planned License: Why Oracle on FreeBSD: Kept private: Email: Tele: Automatically mailed and archived on a web page for them to see, the email would look something like: --- Request for Oracle-FreeBSD at who is the at <Company> is interested in Oracle on FreeBSD. The license sought is <num license> of <License> You can reach <Name> at <Email> or <Tele>. To see other users requesint an oracle version of FreeBSD please visit: http://url/... --- The private stuff could be given to Oracle if they desired to put some "real people" behind these requests. I want oracle on FreeBSD dammit! -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 14:31:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from burlap.eilio.com (eilio.com [216.160.67.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F514FD1; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by burlap.eilio.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA88916; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> X-Sender: philip@burlap.eilio.com To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> Cc: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de>, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990513163811.26546X-100000@cygnus.rush.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905131429540.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk [website to auto email oracle on freebsd requests detail trimmed] This works for me. A couple of questions: What are the different licenses? It seems like that should be a pulldown to make life easier. I'm new enough to oracle not to know all the different options... Also, should we have some "canned" Why Oracle responses for people who don't want to write their own? I'll put something together this evening and shoot out an email letting folks know where it is, or rather, I'll email the individuals who've participated in this thread to make sure it works like it should. If you want to be included, send me email.... -philip > I was thinking more of something like: > > Name: > Title: > Company: > Number of Emp: > Planned use of oracle: > Planned License: > Why Oracle on FreeBSD: > Kept private: > Email: > Tele: > > Automatically mailed and archived on a web page for them to see, the > email would look something like: > > --- > > Request for Oracle-FreeBSD > > <Name> at who is the <Title> at <Company> is interested in Oracle on > FreeBSD. The license sought is <num license> of <License> > > You can reach <Name> at <Email> or <Tele>. > > To see other users requesint an oracle version of FreeBSD please > visit: http://url/... > > --- > > The private stuff could be given to Oracle if they desired to put some > "real people" behind these requests. > > I want oracle on FreeBSD dammit! > > -Alfred > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 15:29:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B618214D59 for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p629.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.124.157]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22514 from <freebsd-database@scc.nl> for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:29:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA07542 for database@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:14:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for database@FreeBSD.ORG (database@FreeBSD.ORG) To: database@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:14:26 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl> Message-ID: <373B4EC2.A17B38A9@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905121350180.74904-100000@burlap.eilio.com>, <99051320391202.60546@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Daniel Haischt wrote: > I know there was someone who builds a special linux port for Oracle8 > but I cant remember the URL of this port, sorry though. > > Maybe the one who buold this port is able to send us the URL again ... > http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~mhmoolen/ > > Anyway - Maybe someone has a idea how to get Apache/PHP/Oracle compiled. > Why don't you use the Oracle Application Server for Linux? You can find a web application demo, which uses the OAS in conjunction with an Oracle database at http://www.scc.nl/. The OAS HOWTO is still in the make, but everything you need is at the first URL. marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 21:27:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from burlap.eilio.com (eilio.com [216.160.67.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D88615435; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by burlap.eilio.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA92659; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:29:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> X-Sender: philip@burlap.eilio.com To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> Cc: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de>, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990513163811.26546X-100000@cygnus.rush.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905132127340.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk All - Someone sent me email privately saying that this might do more harm than good. That it would be viewed with annoyance from Oracle. He mentioned something about Xi graphics not supporting FreeBSD and something Jordan Hubbard had said. I didn't see that thread so don't know what happened. What do people think? I'd really like to hear from anyone on the FreeBSD team... about the last thing I want is to hurt it... Thanks -philip On Thu, 13 May 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone > > would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. > > > > I'm thinking something like this: > > > > Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name > > (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. > > > > Options: > > - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, > > substiting your name and email, etc. > > - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and > > looping). > > - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, > > or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. > > > > Also, every unique email gets added to a list, and displayed on a page. > > This url is included in all the emails to Oracle so they can see just how > > many people have signed up. > > > > > > > > I'd be happy to write the scripts to do this and host it, but I'm going to > > need help writing the letters and figuring out who the best person to send > > this to at oracle is. > > > > Thoughts? > > I was thinking more of something like: > > Name: > Title: > Company: > Number of Emp: > Planned use of oracle: > Planned License: > Why Oracle on FreeBSD: > Kept private: > Email: > Tele: > > Automatically mailed and archived on a web page for them to see, the > email would look something like: > > --- > > Request for Oracle-FreeBSD > > <Name> at who is the <Title> at <Company> is interested in Oracle on > FreeBSD. The license sought is <num license> of <License> > > You can reach <Name> at <Email> or <Tele>. > > To see other users requesint an oracle version of FreeBSD please > visit: http://url/... > > --- > > The private stuff could be given to Oracle if they desired to put some > "real people" behind these requests. > > I want oracle on FreeBSD dammit! > > -Alfred > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 22:10:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (pinnacle.internet.co.nz [210.48.55.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE5815425; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@pinnacle.co.nz) Received: from kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.2]) by kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04540; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:02:40 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:02:40 +1200 (NZST) From: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz> To: Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de>, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905132127340.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> Message-ID: <Pine.SC5.4.10.9905141657100.3444-100000@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > All - > Someone sent me email privately saying that this might do more > harm than good. That it would be viewed with annoyance from Oracle. He > mentioned something about Xi graphics not supporting FreeBSD and something > Jordan Hubbard had said. I didn't see that thread so don't know what > happened. > > What do people think? I'd really like to hear from anyone on the FreeBSD > team... about the last thing I want is to hurt it... Oracle is out there to make money. If they perceive a market for FreeBSD, they will release a version for it. We *do* need to make noise. No noise = no market demand. The way I understand regarding the XiG incident was that there were people asking for a release, but when they released something, no one bought anything. I don't think that will be a problem in the case of database products. Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 23: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ED414C29; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA23886; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:27:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:27:05 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> To: Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> Cc: Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de>, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905132127340.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990514012239.26546Z-100000@cygnus.rush.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > All - > Someone sent me email privately saying that this might do more > harm than good. That it would be viewed with annoyance from Oracle. He > mentioned something about Xi graphics not supporting FreeBSD and something > Jordan Hubbard had said. I didn't see that thread so don't know what > happened. > > What do people think? I'd really like to hear from anyone on the FreeBSD > team... about the last thing I want is to hurt it... The problem was that Xi Graphics made a FreeBSD port of CDE, it sold _one_ copy. CDE sucks, Oracle doesn't. Y'know what don't auto email them, just keep track of people that sign the "guestbook of people that want oracle for freebsd". Someone may wander across it. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 23:27:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5E514BF7; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:27:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abysstwo.abyssworld.de (dip-013.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.13]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA15589; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:34:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de> Organization: AbyssSoft To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:24:52 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905131410250.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051408255201.00359@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk HIYA Is there anyone who knows the madibs story window by Nick Heinle. This litle JavaScript programm can be found in the book 'Designing with JavaScript' in chapter -4- Forms and Functions. Its a neat little programm which generates a complete new story each time the user presses the submit button (regarding to what the user filled into the text fields). If anybody is interested I can program this little web app though ... Best Regards Daniel Haischt =============================== Am Do , 13 Mai 1999 schrieben Sie: > No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone > would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. > > I'm thinking something like this: > > Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name > (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. > > Options: > - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, > substiting your name and email, etc. > - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and > looping). > - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, > or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. > > Also, every unique email gets added to a list, and displayed on a page. > This url is included in all the emails to Oracle so they can see just how > many people have signed up. > > > > I'd be happy to write the scripts to do this and host it, but I'm going to > need help writing the letters and figuring out who the best person to send > this to at oracle is. > > Thoughts? > > -philip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 23:35: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D999151FD; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abysstwo.abyssworld.de (dip-013.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.13]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA15729; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:41:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de> Organization: AbyssSoft To: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:32:19 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <Pine.SC5.4.10.9905140847410.541-100000@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051408331703.00359@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk HIYA AGAIN Madlibs can be found under http://www.webcoder.com/scriptorium/9ademo.html Best Regards Daniel Haischt ===================================== Am Do , 13 Mai 1999 schrieb Jonathan Chen: > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > Well, that kind of sucks, doesn't it. Good to know though... I'll stop > > banging my head against the wall :) > > > > On a different note - What do you think is the best way to get Oracle's > > attention? Lots and lots of polite email? A mass of signatures? Who's > > the best person to contact there? I've emailed a couple different depts > > and never hear back. > > > > I'd be happy to provide server resources for the collection of names, or > > write an app that sends email on your behalf (assuming you fill out the > > form :). > > > > What do people think? > > Yes, this sounds like a good idea. Trying to convince clients to go > with FreeBSD would be a heckuva lot easier if only *ONE* of the big 3 > database vendors would come online. <sigh> > > Hmm. I suppose a program that autogenerates a slightly different letter > each time would be out of the question? > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves > | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Thu May 13 23:43:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C145215639; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abysstwo.abyssworld.de (dip-013.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.13]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA15901; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:50:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de> Organization: AbyssSoft To: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:38:20 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <373B4EC2.A17B38A9@scc.nl> Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051408414904.00359@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk HIYA I wont use OAS at this time (its over 180 MEG in size and I spend alot of time using(configuring Apache so I wont switch to another ap at this time). But I'm thinking of using Oracle WebDB though. Finally to bring this discussion to an end: I just won Oracle8i Enterprise Edition for Solaris so I finally switch to Solaris build a Apache there and hope PHP with Oracle supports compiles just fine. Best Regards Daniel Haischt ============================= Am Fr , 14 Mai 1999 schrieben Sie: > Daniel Haischt wrote: > > > I know there was someone who builds a special linux port for Oracle8 > > but I cant remember the URL of this port, sorry though. > > > > Maybe the one who buold this port is able to send us the URL again ... > > > > http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~mhmoolen/ > > > > > Anyway - Maybe someone has a idea how to get Apache/PHP/Oracle compiled. > > > > Why don't you use the Oracle Application Server for Linux? > You can find a web application demo, which uses the OAS in conjunction with > an Oracle database at http://www.scc.nl/. The OAS HOWTO is still in the make, > but everything you need is at the first URL. > > marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 3:13:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C1B14C14; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langfod@kauai.pacificglobal.net) Received: from kauai.pacificglobal.net (Kauai.PacificGlobal.NET [209.84.182.101]) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23715; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:13:34 -1000 (HST) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by kauai.pacificglobal.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA03510; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:13:19 -1000 (HST) From: David Langford <langfod@maui.net> Message-Id: <199905141013.AAA03510@kauai.pacificglobal.net> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990514012239.26546Z-100000@cygnus.rush.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "May 14, 1999 1:27: 5 am" To: bright@rush.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:13:19 -1000 (HST) Cc: philip@adhesivemedia.com, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >The problem was that Xi Graphics made a FreeBSD port of CDE, it sold >_one_ copy. CDE sucks, Oracle doesn't. You mean I am the ONLY person who bought that.. Wow... >Y'know what don't auto email them, just keep track of people that >sign the "guestbook of people that want oracle for freebsd". Another thought might be to get that word out that the Linux binaries do run under FreeBSD. In the short term these companies could list FreeBSD when they have a web site with pulldown platform choices. While I would prefer a FreeBSD binary, a Linux binary is sometime OK but I would like the company to know that I use, recommend and purchase FOR FreeBSD. I am sure that compaines keep track of the platform download choices and I wish I could "vote" for FreeBSD in this manner. I really detest download site with platform pulldowns like this because I feel like I am "voting" for Linux when it is the only choice given to me. -David Langford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 4:29:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from dwarf.hq.scc.nl (node1374.a2000.nl [62.108.19.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC0F14C05 for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 04:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by dwarf.hq.scc.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA25429 for database@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:06:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by dwarf.hq.scc.nl with netnews for database@FreeBSD.ORG (database@FreeBSD.ORG) To: database@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:06:14 +0200 From: Remco Moolenaar <remco@scc.nl> Message-ID: <373C03A6.BABE08EB@scc.nl> Organization: SCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905121350180.74904-100000@burlap.eilio.com>, <99051320391202.60546@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Reply-To: remco@scc.nl Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Daniel Haischt wrote: > To be honest I just found why Apache/PHP with oracle support wont compile. > Regarding to my last compiler output (as attachement to this mail) I'm sure > Oracle libs which can be found under $ORACLE_HOME/lib aren't > compatibel to standart linux emulation (linux_lib 2.6). I'm able to compile programs with Oracle support included, like the OCI-demos, ApplixWare interface for Oracle, own Oracle web listener...... The trick is this: use the URL http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~mhmoolen/howto-oracle.html to install the Oracle software. Use the created Oracle DBA user to compile the programs (using the emulated Linux bash shell). This will create a Linux ELF binary (static or dynamic) which is executable. -- Remco Moolenaar mailto:remco@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 5:32:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from tatnet.com (tatnet.com [207.239.107.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D00815507; Fri, 14 May 1999 05:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlf@tatnet.com) Received: from tatnet.com (1-iron.tatnet.com [207.239.107.140]) by tatnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14350; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:30:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373C1764.2AE27257@tatnet.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:30:28 -0400 From: David Fehrenbacher <dlf@tatnet.com> Organization: tatnet, inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Langford <langfod@maui.net> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, philip@adhesivemedia.com, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... References: <199905141013.AAA03510@kauai.pacificglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Believe me, I'm with all of you guys on the need to get a native Oracle on FreeBSD. I too, hate having to select "Linux" in the drop down software boxes on web sites. While I think that collecting names/emails in support is a good idea, we all need to look a little more closely at how Linux got all of the attention - they built a brand first, with "branded" and co-branded recognition all over the place, which made it impossible for the larger software companies NOT to pay attention. Some of the stuff the FreeBSD project is doing in Advocacy is right on target, and I for one will be helping out wherever I can. Having said that - does anybody have a rough estimate as to how many copies of Oracle for Linux have been sold? (sold, not downloaded) - I know that's probably not easy info to get, but a relatively hard number (or good guess) is where you might begin to develop your push into convincing Oracle to release for FreeBSD (using petitions, whatever). My brother is going to work for Oracle in Reston, VA - I'll nag him every chance I get for some rough estimates. I'd give my eye teeth to get the Oracle/PHP/Apache thing going on FreeBSD. -David Fehrenbacher David Langford wrote: > > >The problem was that Xi Graphics made a FreeBSD port of CDE, it sold > >_one_ copy. CDE sucks, Oracle doesn't. > > You mean I am the ONLY person who bought that.. Wow... > > >Y'know what don't auto email them, just keep track of people that > >sign the "guestbook of people that want oracle for freebsd". > > Another thought might be to get that word out that the > Linux binaries do run under FreeBSD. > In the short term these companies could list FreeBSD when they > have a web site with pulldown platform choices. > While I would prefer a FreeBSD binary, a Linux binary is sometime OK > but I would like the company to know that I use, recommend and purchase > FOR FreeBSD. > I am sure that compaines keep track of the platform download choices > and I wish I could "vote" for FreeBSD in this manner. > I really detest download site with platform pulldowns like this because > I feel like I am "voting" for Linux when it is the only choice given > to me. > > -David Langford > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message -- tatnet, inc. Tel: 410.571.9462 | Fax: 410.571.9442 email: info@tatnet.com | http://www.tatnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 7: 2: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from namep.cyfari.com (namep.cyfari.com [208.193.65.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94D8D1509E for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naief@cyfari.com) Received: (qmail 27672 invoked by alias); 14 May 1999 15:06:46 -0000 Received: from destroyer.cyfari.com (208.193.65.11) by namep.cyfari.com with SMTP; 14 May 1999 15:06:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Naief BinTalal <naief@cyfari.com> To: David Langford <langfod@maui.net> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, philip@adhesivemedia.com, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <199905141013.AAA03510@kauai.pacificglobal.net> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9905130953510.41325-100000@destroyer.cyfari.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 May 1999, David Langford wrote: > >The problem was that Xi Graphics made a FreeBSD port of CDE, it sold > >_one_ copy. CDE sucks, Oracle doesn't. > > You mean I am the ONLY person who bought that.. Wow... > I did buy one too !! .. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Naief BinTalal Senior Engineer naief@cyfari.com CyFari Inc The Commerce Engine Engineered Shopping http://www.cyfari.com Daytona Beach Florida. Tel: 904-258-1116 USA. Fax: 904-257-1311 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 8:14:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from toplink4.toplink.net (toplink4.toplink.net [195.2.171.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386CD15164; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielh@privat.toplink.de) Received: from abysstwo.abyssworld.de (dip-033.hbg.dinx.de [195.2.169.33]) by toplink4.toplink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA27000; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:21:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de> Organization: AbyssSoft To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:12:13 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <373C1764.2AE27257@tatnet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051417130501.31183@abysstwo.abyssworld.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk HIYA I think to get a native FreeBSD port of the gnu c libraries (glibc) whould be one step closer to geting solfed this LINUX vs FreeBSD prob. Just think about that every software product (incliding Oracle8) needs glibc 2.0.x. As we can see - just having a good linux emulator whouldnt finally solf the whole problem. At least look at what caldera did they introduced their Lizard installation system developed in association with trolltech (the one who developed the qt libray/toolkit). What I want to say with that is that we need more than just a 'rockstable' operating system. Yea and finally all about creating ur own powerfull brand which cause big software firms to even support FreeBSD as a platform for their software products. - Daniel Haischt - ============================= Am Fr , 14 Mai 1999 schrieben Sie: > Believe me, I'm with all of you guys on the need to get a native Oracle > on FreeBSD. I too, hate having to select "Linux" in the drop down > software boxes on web sites. While I think that collecting names/emails > in support is a good idea, we all need to look a little more closely at > how Linux got all of the attention - they built a brand first, with > "branded" and co-branded recognition all over the place, which made it > impossible for the larger software companies NOT to pay attention. Some > of the stuff the FreeBSD project is doing in Advocacy is right on > target, and I for one will be helping out wherever I can. > > Having said that - does anybody have a rough estimate as to how many > copies of Oracle for Linux have been sold? (sold, not downloaded) - I > know that's probably not easy info to get, but a relatively hard number > (or good guess) is where you might begin to develop your push into > convincing Oracle to release for FreeBSD (using petitions, whatever). > My brother is going to work for Oracle in Reston, VA - I'll nag him > every chance I get for some rough estimates. > > I'd give my eye teeth to get the Oracle/PHP/Apache thing going on > FreeBSD. > > -David Fehrenbacher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 11:25:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFEB14CD5 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA294840889; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:08:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com> To: Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> Cc: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Daniel Haischt <danielh@privat.toplink.de>, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905132127340.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990514100722.9976F-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Someone sent me email privately saying that this might do more > harm than good. That it would be viewed with annoyance from Oracle. He > mentioned something about Xi graphics not supporting FreeBSD and something > Jordan Hubbard had said. I didn't see that thread so don't know what > happened. Jordan's comment was that if everyone says they're coming to the party, and no-one shows up, it looks bad. Imagine 5000 e-mails and 2 purchases. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Fri May 14 13:58:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E4714EAD for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12782 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:58:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu> To: freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990514100722.9976F-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905141554080.5737-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 May 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > Jordan's comment was that if everyone says they're coming to the party, > and no-one shows up, it looks bad. It does. How many people are after simply native client libraries as opposed to the who shebang? I've already got an oracle server on a Sun box but I'd *really* like to develop applications on FreeBSD. The client side may be a much smaller risk for them to produce and if it goes well, that demonstrates an interested user base for the server side. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 15 2: 1:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A59C15091; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id BAA22059; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:56:42 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@freebie.dcfinc.com> Message-Id: <199905150856.BAA22059@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... To: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 01:56:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: philip@adhesivemedia.com, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <Pine.SC5.4.10.9905140847410.541-100000@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> from Jonathan Chen at "May 14, 99 09:03:35 am" Reply-To: chad@dcfinc.com X-unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Yes, this sounds like a good idea. Trying to convince clients to go > with FreeBSD would be a heckuva lot easier if only *ONE* of the big 3 > database vendors would come online. <sigh> Perhaps we should include Informix in the campaign. You know, #2 tries harder and all that. Besides, they've always seemed a bit more committed to the UNIX market than Oracle has. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 15 2:11:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945C715135; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id CAA22229; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:07:03 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@freebie.dcfinc.com> Message-Id: <199905150907.CAA22229@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... To: philip@adhesivemedia.com (Philip Hallstrom) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:07:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905131410250.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> from Philip Hallstrom at "May 13, 99 02:14:50 pm" Reply-To: chad@dcfinc.com X-unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone > would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. > > I'm thinking something like this: > > Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name > (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. > > Options: > - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, > substiting your name and email, etc. > - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and > looping). > - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, > or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. > > > Thoughts? I think that spamming Oracle is a poor way of trying to convince them that we deserve their attention. Collect a list of folks that want a native Oracle for FreeBSD, and what they would pay for a license under what circumstances. Perhaps use your web site to gather the votes. Let the sales guys build a business case to take to development. > -philip -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 15 5:50: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166DD14D03; Sat, 15 May 1999 05:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27697; Sat, 15 May 1999 22:49:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990515224901.D27132@caamora.com.au> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:49:01 +1000 From: jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au> To: chad@dcfinc.com, Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com> Cc: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... Mail-Followup-To: chad@dcfinc.com, Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com>, jonc@pinnacle.co.nz, sos@freebsd.dk, danielh@privat.toplink.de, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905131410250.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> <199905150907.CAA22229@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199905150907.CAA22229@freebie.dcfinc.com>; from Chad R. Larson on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:07:02AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk chad & group hello, please excuse my spelling, its cold tonight in my study and the arthritis is particularly bad. On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:07:02AM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > No, generating a slightly different letter wouldn't be that hard. Someone > > would just have to write a bunch of slightly different letters. > > > > I'm thinking something like this: > > > > Set up a web site with a form that asks for your email and name > > (anything else needed?), and then sends off the email. > > > > Options: > > - The email could be randomly selected from the pool of letters, > > substiting your name and email, etc. > > - The first email could be 1, the second, 2, etc... (sequential and > > looping). > > - Or, you fill the form out once, and then every week, or maybe two weeks, > > or something insistent, but nice, an email gets sent out. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > I think that spamming Oracle is a poor way of trying to convince > them that we deserve their attention. agreed > Collect a list of folks that want a native Oracle for FreeBSD, and what > they would pay for a license under what circumstances. Perhaps use your > web site to gather the votes. Let the sales guys build a business case > to take to development. i'd add one item to this. get all teh freebsd using companies, isp's virtual hosting companies and "not for profit" organisations get into build a prepurchase buisness implementation schedule .. sort of like a buisness case but two more steps are involved. 1, we have isolated this data management probelm(s) 2, build the buisness case 3, build a deploynent outline 4, (sweenter of oracle) build a suite of effectiveness measurements so that it can be clearly shoum how much, faster, better, more savings, etc etc et are to be made by using oracle. stuff like this coming from big isps running freebsd with lots of optentially good 'advertising' would have oracle breaking thier fingers trying to type fast enough to get teh orcle or freebsd ORDERS filled. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia ===========================================================<jon@caamora.com.au> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 15 7:54:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from yucca.greentree.com (unknown [209.185.105.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923FE15051 for <freebsd-database@freebsd.org>; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phil@glatz.com) Received: from winky.greentree.com (rno-max-01-d62.sierra.net [207.135.238.62]) by yucca.greentree.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA22978 for <freebsd-database@freebsd.org>; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990515073512.009d89f0@flawless.net> X-Sender: phil@flawless.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 07:49:24 -0700 To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org From: Phil Glatz <phil@glatz.com> Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <199905150907.CAA22229@freebie.dcfinc.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905131410250.85864-100000@burlap.eilio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 02:07 AM 5/15/99 , Chad R. Larson wrote: >I think that spamming Oracle is a poor way of trying to convince >them that we deserve their attention. Yes! Set an example, we don't like spam. >Collect a list of folks that want a native Oracle for FreeBSD... ...and are willing to pay for it, which is the only way it would make sense for Oracle I'm in the process of moving a large ecommerce site (www.greentree.com) from Informix to Oracle. We use Apache, with PHP as glue. I've been having a difficult time finding other PHP users running Oracle. Seems most people using free/open software are open all the way, with mysql being the database pf choice (it's been my fave for years). It makes me wonder how big a market FreeBSD is for Oracle. Among other things, Oracle is fairly difficult to administer (with power comes complexity), meaning expensive, meaning maybe out of the budget of the typical FreeBSD user. I personally run Oracle on mirrored Sun E450's, which is probably more typical of Oracle installations. Once you get an Oracle license, hire a DBA, do your engineering, and budget the cost of your database folks, the difference between an Intel and Sun box becomes much less of a factor. And Oracle is much more of a known entity on Solaris - would you trust a large enterprise on a brand new database release? I connect to Oracle with some FreeBSD and Linux boxes, but most of our equipment is Sun/Solaris. So the big question is whether it is a big enough market for it to make sense for Oracle to deal with. I have a gut feeling only a very small percentage of FreeBSD installations would benefit from the power and complexity of Oracle, at least natively. I just don't see where the savings would be, compared to the other costs involved. Now a set of native FreeBSD libraries and a listener would make sense. Aside from the Yahoos of the world, how many large enterprises are running large aps on FreeBSD? Oracle is prohibitively expensive for small sites. (and please prove me wrong, I love FreeBSD and at least put up with Oracle). PS - the PHP port to Oracle 8 is still pretty green, we will be using it, but it will be a while before we can use it efficiently as we'd like to (issues involving bound variables, etc.). And you'll probably not be using Oracle development tools (Designer 2000, etc.) on FreeBSD for some time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Glatz (philg@greentree.com) Software Engineer, GreenTree Nutrition 415.844.0145 www.greentree.com San Francisco, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 15 9:43: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (mail1.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D315223 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:43:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-209-214-69-213.atl.bellsouth.net [209.214.69.213]) by mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08700; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00702; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:44:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199905151644.MAA00702@bellsouth.net> To: chad@dcfinc.com Cc: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen), freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 01:56:41 PDT." <199905150856.BAA22059@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:44:41 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks <wghicks@bellsouth.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > Yes, this sounds like a good idea. Trying to convince clients to go > > with FreeBSD would be a heckuva lot easier if only *ONE* of the big 3 > > database vendors would come online. <sigh> > Perhaps we should include Informix in the campaign. You know, #2 > tries harder and all that. Besides, they've always seemed a bit > more committed to the UNIX market than Oracle has. If you're thinking commercial database software, please don't forget Faircom (also the original implementors of Informix's C-ISAM) Faircom actively supports FreeBSD and have satisfied this customer for over fourteen years. For many database applications their C-Tree data file management libraries are more than adequate and they offer an SQL server with ODBC support is available as well. http://www.faircom.com Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sun May 16 19:39:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F11523C for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA248623402; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:23:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:23:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com> To: John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu> Cc: freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache/PHP/Oracle8... In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905141554080.5737-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu> Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990516182153.24521B-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 May 1999, John Fieber wrote: > How many people are after simply native client libraries as > opposed to the who shebang? I've already got an oracle server on > a Sun box but I'd *really* like to develop applications on > FreeBSD. I can safely say that I'd purchase it. Regrettfully, we run Oracle on NT, and that would allow me to add some sanity to applications. > The client side may be a much smaller risk for them to produce > and if it goes well, that demonstrates an interested user base > for the server side. Yes, I'm sure porting the client libraries has a much smaller risk and cost then a server. Performance and all. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Mon May 17 14:11: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4137F15677 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from dell01 [195.68.3.43] by mail.go2france.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A1FC5A100F2; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:46:04 EST5EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990517230912.027cce10@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:09:33 +0200 To: freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG From: Len Conrad <lconrad@Go2France.com> Subject: subscribe freebsd-net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk freebsd-database To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sat May 22 2:14:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from doriath.saers.com (unknown [194.248.7.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F45614C97 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 22 May 1999 02:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Received: from ERINDEL (erindel.studby.uio.no [129.240.215.28]) by doriath.saers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08216 for <freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 22 May 1999 11:14:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from berenmls@saers.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990522091240.0233cd60@pop.saers.com> X-Sender: berenmls@pop.saers.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:13:22 +0200 To: freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG From: Niklas Saers <berenmls@saers.com> Subject: DB2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Has anyone had any success with installing IBM's DB2 for Linux on FreeBSD? It's freely available as a beta release from IBM, who even sends you the CD upon request. :) Niklas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Sun May 23 12:59:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E6114C22 for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 23 May 1999 12:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p240.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.123.168]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09444 from <freebsd-database@scc.nl> for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 23 May 1999 21:59:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA06691 for database@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 May 1999 21:14:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for database@FreeBSD.ORG (database@FreeBSD.ORG) To: database@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:14:09 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl> Message-ID: <37485380.6CCE73B0@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4.1.19990522091240.0233cd60@pop.saers.com> Subject: Re: DB2 Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Niklas Saers wrote: > > Has anyone had any success with installing IBM's DB2 for Linux on FreeBSD? > It's freely available as a beta release from IBM, who even sends you the CD > upon request. :) > DB2 installs fine, but fails to create groups and accounts for the first instance (or something). Just installing the Linux tools (useradd and groupadd IIRC) will probably not suffice, but I'm looking into that. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Tue May 25 12:35:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from talon.anteon.com (talon.anteon.com [38.181.219.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232BC152CA; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhughes@anteon.com) Received: from talon.anteon.com (root@localhost) by talon.anteon.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08287; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: rhughes@anteon.com Received: from spectrum.anteon.com (spectrum.anteon.com [172.30.104.223]) by talon.anteon.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08283; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ffx.anteon.com by spectrum.anteon.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11595; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:38:01 -0400 Received: from ccMail by ffx.anteon.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01) id AA927660862; Tue, 25 May 99 15:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9905259276.AA927660862@ffx.anteon.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Tue, 25 May 99 14:40:15 -0500 To: <freebsd-database@freebsd.org>, <database@freebsd.org> Subject: SCO Oracle on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk There has been quite a bit of talk about running Oracle for Linux on FreeBSD. Has anyone tried running Oracle for SCO on FreeBSD? Oracle8 v8.0.5 for SCO is currently available from Oracle Technology Network. --------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Hughes rhughes@anteon.com Systems Engineering Anteon, Corp. Montgomery, Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Tue May 25 12:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from talon.anteon.com (talon.anteon.com [38.181.219.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232BC152CA; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhughes@anteon.com) Received: from talon.anteon.com (root@localhost) by talon.anteon.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08287; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: rhughes@anteon.com Received: from spectrum.anteon.com (spectrum.anteon.com [172.30.104.223]) by talon.anteon.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08283; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ffx.anteon.com by spectrum.anteon.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11595; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:38:01 -0400 Received: from ccMail by ffx.anteon.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01) id AA927660862; Tue, 25 May 99 15:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9905259276.AA927660862@ffx.anteon.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Tue, 25 May 99 14:40:15 -0500 To: <freebsd-database@freebsd.org>, <database@freebsd.org> Subject: SCO Oracle on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk There has been quite a bit of talk about running Oracle for Linux on FreeBSD. Has anyone tried running Oracle for SCO on FreeBSD? Oracle8 v8.0.5 for SCO is currently available from Oracle Technology Network. --------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Hughes rhughes@anteon.com Systems Engineering Anteon, Corp. Montgomery, Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-database Tue May 25 13:35:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-database@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F78215AFF for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p246.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.123.174]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16176 from <freebsd-database@scc.nl> for <database@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:35:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA11771 for database@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:33:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-database@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for database@FreeBSD.ORG (database@FreeBSD.ORG) To: database@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:33:11 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl> Message-ID: <374B0907.DA4FD3E1@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9905259276.AA927660862@ffx.anteon.com> Subject: Re: SCO Oracle on FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk rhughes@anteon.com wrote: > > There has been quite a bit of talk about running Oracle for Linux on FreeBSD. > Has anyone tried running Oracle for SCO on FreeBSD? Oracle8 v8.0.5 for SCO is > currently available from Oracle Technology Network. > We used to run Oracle 7 for SCO on FreeBSD before Oracle introduced its RDBMS for Linux. If I must choose between the two, I'd choose Oracle for Linux. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-database" in the body of the message